IRC log for #wowace on 20160515

00:44.11StanzillaRepo: udead?
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02:11.56Repocollectinator: 03resa1983 07Legion * 6.2.3.2-28-g8198aa9 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Mount default quality changed to epic, default toy quality changed to rare
02:17.02Stanzillait's a Ressy
02:26.59znfKael'thas sucks balls since they moved the living bomb spread
02:33.25znfwow, and now it has the wording "CAN" spread living bomb
02:33.35znfso will not spread it 100%
02:34.13RessyYeah Stanzilla.. :P
02:44.18nebulaznf: kael is strong as fuck, gravity crush wins fights
02:44.31znfI liked living bomb :(
02:44.42znfliving bomb spread is too late now :(
02:44.44znfiz boring
02:45.17nebulathey changed him from strong aoe to strong single target, which is kinda meh, but he's still hella good
02:47.59znfI prefered that playstyle more
03:05.37Repocollectinator: 03resa1983 07Legion * 6.2.3.2-34-g7e33d4f  (11 files in 5 directories): [+6 commits] (2 truncated)
03:05.37Repo7e33d4f: Add mounts & toys
03:05.37Repoed3f972: Localizations
03:05.37Repoad1821a: Add supporting reputations
03:05.37Repo6306c8c: Adding supporting Vendors, Quests, Mobs, World Events, and Custom stuff
03:10.34Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 07Legion * 6.2.3.2-35-gc2bf91a Interface/List.lua: [+1 commit] Fix division by zero in progress bar percentage calculation.
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03:16.45Repocollectinator: 03Torhal 07Legion * 6.2.3.2-36-g29fa4a9 Interface/List.lua: [+1 commit] Real fix: Account for both values being 0.
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03:56.20nebulaStanzilla: does working copy of wa work?
04:09.29Semlarhe went to sleep
04:13.59Repodropthecheapestthing: 03Kemayo 07legion * v60200a-2-gb3e8f8f  (8 files in 2 directories): [new, +2 commits]
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07:37.23Fiskerhey nevcairiel
07:38.19nevcairielhey Fisker
07:38.31FiskerI want to BUY a GRAPHICS CARD
07:38.39FiskerIf you catch my drift
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08:29.11nevcairielonly two more days until supposed embargo date
08:31.47FiskerIndeed
08:34.59Repoherebedragons: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.09-release-4-g65e551d HereBeDragons-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Add instance override for the Temple of Elune Scenario in Val'sharah
08:40.31Fiskerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQme7walrys haha nevcairiel
09:41.38Repoherebedragons: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 1.09-release-5-gba35ae7 HereBeDragons-1.0.lua: [+1 commit] Properly handle map levels in 7.0
09:42.12nevcairielcant wait for real benchmarks, leaked info show an easy 50% lead with some OC, and still cooler than a stock titan x
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09:58.59FiskerYeah
10:00.49nevcairieland at the same time, rumors about AMD are getting worse by the day, rumors of delays and weak performance
10:03.16quiescensmoo?
10:03.25FiskerYay
10:03.31quiescens\o/
10:03.38FiskerBut async compute nevcairiel
10:03.45FiskerA S Y N C
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13:57.25KesavaSemlar: your non-laggy positioning stuff seems to have a problem in legion
13:57.36znfwtf you can ban heroes in ranked play now in hots
13:57.41quiescensdid semlar breaked the game
13:58.38Torhalznf: That's pretty common in ranked/tournament games.
13:58.52znfthat's uber-gay
13:59.02Torhal¯\_(ツ)_/¯
13:59.08quiescenso.o
13:59.11TorhalThen don't play competitively.
13:59.33quiescensgo sleep
13:59.39znfI feel like it takes the competitive part out when you "ban" heroes
13:59.44TorhalTournaments of various games have done that for years.
13:59.59TorhalThere are certain cards in Magic that aren't ever allowed in tournaments, for example.
14:00.17znfway to submit to the whiners
14:01.04Torhal[08:59:40]  <znf>I feel like it takes the competitive part out when you "ban" heroes <-- Or, you're just pissed that you can't cheese your way through with your OP choice. :D
14:01.14znfnot really
14:01.15quiescensnerf znf
14:01.21znfI wouldn't have picked one of those banned heroes anyway
14:01.24znfI just find it retarded
14:01.35Megalonlol
14:01.43Megalonznf stop going full retard
14:08.06Fiskerhey nevcairiel
14:08.06Fiskeri
14:10.59Repotictack: 03merkinid * r4 core.lua: Updated Core to fix Marker names at call out.
14:10.59RepoMerk
14:12.00Kesava(what's the cvar for script profiling)
14:12.31KesavascriptProfile. right yes thanks
14:12.49quiescensgives Kesava a cookie
14:13.38KesavaSemlar: https://gfycat.com/UnknownDisloyalKinkajou #potato
14:16.30Kesavaobviously removing the hide-before-moving thing fixes it
14:30.49znfhttp://i.imgur.com/yQ1lD4R.png
14:30.52znfinteresting
14:32.17Ironiiis there already an addon to allow clicking on default nameplates on beta?
14:33.06Megalonznf: your wardriving map?
14:33.08Ironiia bit annoying that currently nameplates just intercept mouse clicks
14:33.16znfMegalon, when I get bored
14:33.20znfI mean, yes
14:33.25znfwhen I get bored I take a drive with Wigle
14:33.39Megalonwhat is wigle
14:33.40Megalonlol
14:33.50znfhttps://wigle.net/
14:33.59Megalonthat's so fucking close to my family name
14:34.00Megalonhaha
14:42.38KesavaIronii: you mean clicking through them?
14:42.58Ironiiclicking trough or click to select
14:43.16Ironiii would be happy with either one
14:43.28Kesava.. click to select?
14:43.50Ironii/to target
14:43.57Kesavait already does that
14:44.24Ironiimhhh, doens't for me atleast ;o
14:44.43Ironiihmph, i guess one of the addons is messing it up
14:44.49Kesavaperhaps
14:45.18TorhalI blame quiescens.
14:45.22TorhalIt's all about the cookies.
14:45.27quiescensnoes ):
14:46.45Ironiiah, clique did it
14:46.58quiescens/blame torhal
14:47.19Torhalcliques quiescens.
14:50.17quiescensdies.
14:50.28Semlarturns kesava off and on again
14:51.29Semlari haven't even begun to consider looking at nameplates yet
14:51.49Kesavapsh
14:52.04Semlari doubt hiding and moving a frame is the problem
14:52.09Kesavaindeed
14:52.15Semlarthey probably get recycled when you hide them or something
14:52.20Semlarif that's the default nameplate
14:52.32Kesavanon, only hiding my frame
14:52.43Kesavaand definitely not bubbling the OnHide event
14:52.54Semlaris your frame registered as a nameplate or something
14:53.16Kesavaum, no, it's parented to worldframe etc
14:53.24Kesava(is there a better way of doing it now?)
14:53.53Semlarcan i see the code
14:54.26Kesavahttps://github.com/kesava-wow/kuinameplates2/tree/legion/Kui_Nameplates_2
14:54.43Kesavaframe creation is in hook.lua
14:55.15Semlaryou're physically hiding their nameplate?
14:55.31Semlarhave you tried leaving it visible
14:55.31Kesavayees
14:56.10Kesavai could do that but it's a massive fps boost to hide it like that
14:56.11Semlarhang on waffles are done
14:56.15Kesava!
14:56.23Semlaryeah but leave them visible and see if your frames still break
14:57.19Kesavathey do indeed. health bar goes invisible whenever they move
14:58.22znfReading mail... 149814 (87%)
14:58.22Kesavahttps://github.com/kesava-wow/kuinameplates2/blob/legion-flash/Kui_Nameplates_2/hook.lua
14:58.23znf*sigh*
14:59.05Kesavathat's the only place that listens for OnHide so, stopping it just there should be sufficient afaik
14:59.14Kesavabut they still flash
15:00.17Stanzillanebula: only if you move the folders
15:02.23nevcairieli symlink the subfolders because WA fails at life
15:03.06TorhalDoes Stanzilla not know how to .pkgmeta?
15:03.40StanzillaTorhal: I do but he asked about working copy
15:04.03TorhalSo we blame quiescens.
15:04.17Semlaralright i got my waffles
15:04.20quiescensnoes ):
15:07.34Kesavawait that code is broken. obviously.
15:07.42Kesavabut i did it like that (properly) before and it was the same
15:09.55Kesavaoh god that's not even the right frame so that bit isn't necessary
15:09.57Kesavaok so you can ignore that
15:11.14nevcairielignoring is always nice
15:11.21Torhalignores Kesava.
15:12.36SemlarKesava: i copied and pasted my script from here http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=297420&postcount=25 and it works out of the box
15:12.46Semlarso there's something wrong with your particular implementation
15:12.57Kesavabah
15:12.59Semlarand your code is kind of spread out for me to read
15:13.16Kesavayees
15:14.10nevcairielsomeone remind me, why dont you just parent to the nameplate frame, considering now they even have events that contain the frame as an argument etc
15:14.24Semlarparenting it to the nameplate inexplicably causes a massive frame rate drop
15:14.35nevcairieldid you confirm it still does
15:14.37Semlarnope
15:14.43nevcairiellegion changed a lot
15:14.50nevcairieland getting rid of such hackery would be nice, wouldnt it
15:15.44Semlarit would, but i just disabled the part where it hides before moving and it obviously still lags to hell
15:16.15Semlarbut that's probably fundamental to the engine for some reason
15:16.46Kesavayep, parenting to the real nameplate still causes massive lag
15:20.30nevcairielso does using a custom nameplate addon even improve performance over the built-in plates, which actually have frames parented to it like buffs etc?
15:20.46Kesavayes, a lot
15:21.14nevcairielbecause i like the built-in simplistic plates :)
15:22.17Stanzillacould just do a kui layout that looks simliar then, nevcairiel
15:22.29Semlaryou may be able to even just modify the existing nameplates
15:22.53Torhalmodifies the existing Semlar.
15:22.54Semlarhttps://gfycat.com/GloomySilverGreatdane
15:22.58nevcairieli'm lazy though, and figuring out a simple layout seems easier then fixing the plates
15:23.20quiescensmake someone else do it
15:23.28quiescensmake torhal do it ^^
15:23.48Torhalvotes for quiescens.
15:23.56TorhalCookie Nameplates.
15:25.16Semlarhttps://gfycat.com/HandyPoliticalFennecfox
15:27.07quiescensi'm not sure those nameplates would be very useful
15:27.13TorhalI see your two gfycat links, Semlar, but don't know what to do with them since you provided to context.
15:27.32Semlarfirst one is hiding the frame before moving it, second one is not hiding it
15:28.00Semlarit also isn't flickering like kesava's
15:28.01Kesavahaaang on, try putting a status bar in there rather than just text
15:28.09Kesavabecause the text on mine isn't flickering, only the health bar
15:32.42Kesava!
15:32.44Kesavait flickers
15:32.57Kesavahah
15:34.07Semlarhttps://gfycat.com/KeyShabbyCockatoo
15:34.38Kesavawhat're you parenting/pointing it to?
15:34.52Semlarit's literally the code from my post
15:34.59Kesavano, the bar
15:35.13Semlarwell i just turned the base frame into a statusbar
15:35.20Semlarso WorldFrame
15:36.00Kesavawell if you parent a status bar to the frame you're hiding and moving
15:36.02Kesavait'll flicker
15:36.04Kesavai'm sure of it
15:36.16Semlarnope
15:36.32Semlarsounds like something is wrong with your statusbar
15:36.48Semlaryou have a fadein animation or something?
15:37.21Kesavahttp://paste2.org/XkbkpCOe
15:37.29Kesavai added it to your code, that flickers for me
15:38.05Kesavayou'll need to change the texture obviously, you can just fill with colour in legion can't you?
15:38.09Kesavai don't remember
15:38.45Semlari'm using interface/buttons/white8x8 as the texture
15:39.02Kesavaobviously if i parent that to worldframe it doens't flash anymore, but then i'd have to manually hide it etc
15:39.24Semlaryour code doesn't flicker for me
15:39.31Kesavawell. that's confusing.
15:42.04Kesavajust to confirm, it still flashes if i change the texture to white8x8
15:42.23Semlarall i did was swap out your texture path
15:42.48Semlarmaybe it's the npcs?
15:42.55Kesavalocal Nameplates, PreviousWorldChildren = {}, 0
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15:44.01Kesavaend)
15:44.03Kesava.....
15:44.05Kesavashit
15:44.07Kesavasorry
15:44.09Kesavathis is the right past: https://gfycat.com/ElementaryVigorousAsiantrumpetfish
15:44.11Kesavapaste*
15:44.13Kesava(i'm too used to y copying the url)
15:44.24Kesavaah i figured it out
15:44.34Kesavaif you enable stacking nameplates, it'll flicker
15:44.40Kesavaso. no one can use that.
15:45.45Semlardidn't do it for me but i also don't have like 30 guys on screen
15:46.13Semlaryou may have accidentally set your spread settings to make them fly off the screen or something
15:46.37Semlarwell no that wouldn't explain the text staying visible
15:46.53Kesavaindeed
15:47.13Semlarbut stacking does mean they're moving more for you
15:47.26Semlarso your OnSize script is firing more often
15:47.36Kesavayeah
15:47.37Semlarmaybe something you're doing in response to that is causing problems
15:48.06Kesavaturns out, that script isn't flickering anymore even with stacking
15:48.09Kesavaso what the fuck.
15:48.17Semlarproblem solved forever
15:48.31Semlarmaybe changing the motion type reset its settings or something
15:48.52Semlareven with a bunch of units on screen i don't have it causing problems
15:48.58Torhalpastes Kesava to the channel.
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15:54.40Kesavawhat. the. fuck.
15:56.06Semlarstop breaking things
15:57.54KesavaIT'S THE FUCKING TEXTURE
15:58.03Torhaltexturizes Semlar.
15:58.07Kesavait DOESN'T flash when i use white8x8
15:58.12Kesavait DOES flash when i use my actual texture
15:58.19Semlari thought you said you used that texture
15:58.28Kesavai did and it still flashed
15:58.31Kesavauntil i reloaded
15:58.32Kesavaaskohdoashdasd
15:59.29Kesavayeah, white8x8 definitely doesn't flash
15:59.31Kesavabut my texture does
15:59.37KesavaSO it would seem, textures are broken with it somehow
15:59.48Kesavaif you can perhaps confirm so that i'm not just going crazy
16:01.23Kesavaby "textures" i mean, i don't know, maybe non-default textures?
16:01.24Kesavano idea
16:01.36Semlari don't have your texture
16:02.02Kesavahttps://github.com/kesava-wow/kuinameplates/blob/master/Kui_Media/t/bar.tga
16:03.51Kesavait could be the alpha channel, the compression, the fact it's .tga not blp, something like that
16:04.04Kesavaunless it doesn't flash for you of course, in which case, i have no fucking idea
16:04.09Semlarprobably just the fact that it's an external file
16:04.14Semlarthe game isn't loading so
16:04.16Kesavayeah.
16:04.23Kesavayeah, crashed for me too
16:05.58Semlarthis is clearly your texture's fault
16:06.05Kesavayes
16:06.06Semlarit crashed the world server
16:08.48TorhalFucking texture!
16:09.51Semlaryeah your texture flickers
16:09.57Kesavathank god for that
16:10.20Semlarmaybe it's reloading it every time it's shown or something
16:10.28Kesavaindeed
16:11.39Kesavanow i expect you to find a solution for this
16:12.48Semlar:|
16:13.44TorhalNo pressure, man.
16:13.52Semlarit's literally reloading the file directly from the drive every time it's shown
16:13.56Semlarsoo
16:14.09Kesavaso, blizzard need to fix it
16:14.16Semlaryes
16:14.17Kesavawhere's guillotine these days
16:14.21TorhalNot figuratively reloading?
16:15.17Semlari don't know if this is a normal beta thing or if they've just accidentally got it set to purge and reload the texture every time it's needed
16:15.33Semlari don't think you can load your own sound files right now
16:15.37Semlarso it might be related
16:15.52Kesavahopefuly
16:16.03Semlarcertainly makes it easier to test different textures
16:16.17Semlaryou can just drop it right in there
16:19.15Semlarso don't call SetCVar('enablestreaming', 0)
16:19.27Semlari can't launch the game any more
16:19.31Kesavaoh, okay
16:19.35Kesavai was about to run it anyway
16:19.42Semlari mean, you could
16:19.54Kesavai'll pass
16:21.19nevcairieltry the the releaseUITextures cvar otherwise
16:21.37nevcairielall external files are rather funky though
16:21.40nevcairielfonts are also acting up
16:22.27Kesavayup, setting that to 0 fixed it
16:23.01Kesavastarts flickering as soon as i set it to 1 again
16:23.16nevcairielthe docs say it releases textures when they are hidden
16:23.32Semlarthis seems.. i don't know, abusable
16:23.51Kesavai see
16:23.53Semlaryou can get information into the game by swapping out the texture file
16:24.30nevcairielits unclear if it actually reloads the file, or just re-creates the texture object which could still cause a small flicker if its done constantly
16:24.50Semlarit 100% reloads the file
16:25.09Semlari renamed his texture and it turned green when it got reshown
16:25.23nevcairielnot like you can examine the contents of a texture to read information
16:25.35Semlaryou can get the texture's dimensions
16:26.03Semlarwhich is enough to send some data to the game
16:26.14Kesavaindeed
16:26.15Semlarnot that it would be a very convenient method
16:26.23nevcairielthe option may be a testing thing
16:26.49Semlarit doesn't look like it's new, but it's set to 1 by default right now
16:26.58Semlari assume for the beta
16:30.39Kesavahm, so, they've removed functions related to mob tagging, but faction tags are still a thing
16:30.46Kesava... sooo how do we determine if something is tagged
16:30.53Kesavatagging? tapping
16:30.55Kesavai don't remember
16:31.13nevcairielUnitIsTapDenied
16:31.18Kesavaah
16:31.25nevcairielif thats true, then you cannot tap it
16:31.25Kesava... odd wording
16:31.32Kesavaright. thanks :D
16:31.56FiskerI'm gonna hey nevcairiel
16:32.00FiskerI'm unstoppable
16:39.08Megalonstops Fisker
16:39.14Megalonthat was easy :)
16:46.00KesavaUNIT_HEALTH doesn't fire for enemy-tapped nameplate units
16:46.04Kesava..
16:47.18Kesavabut UNIT_HEALTH_FREQUENT does
16:47.19Kesavakay
16:48.01Semlarstop breaking things
16:48.44TorhalWeb page text: "Maintance!"
16:48.47Torhal:D
16:49.22Semlar!! UNDER CONSTRUCTION !!
16:49.46Kesava800x600 recommended?
16:50.13TorhalIsn't that kinda 1994?
16:50.58SemlarDESIGNED TO WORK IN NETSCAPE NAVIGATOR
17:13.03quiescensmosaic
17:13.04quiescens!
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18:48.47Ironiifinally done testing every ability of every spec & artifact and adding creatures to a blacklist
18:48.59Ironiithere are way too many abilities in the game >.<
18:50.40Ironiionly 3 classes in the game that doesn't spawn a minion labeled as creature, Demon Hunter, Paladin and Warrior ;p
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19:22.23Gnarfozznf: neat wardriving thing. We built something like that for personal use some 13-14 years ago, but this is great. what do you feed it with?
19:23.26znf8 years ago? Netstumbler
19:23.38znfNow... The wiggle WiFi app
19:23.41znfOn my phone
19:26.46GnarfozI see
19:27.30znfJesus
19:27.30znfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VxrG7Pft/Screenshot_2016-05-15-22-27-13.png
19:27.31GnarfozI wonder if the hardware requirements for "proper" wardriving have evaporated with time
19:27.34znfWhat a retarded hotel
19:27.54znfAll APs on the same channel
19:28.08Gnarfozprobably in the belief that that makes roaming a thing
19:28.13Gnarfoz(which it of course doesn't)
19:29.02GnarfozI think my ancient Thinkpad, PCMCIA wifi card with antenna connector and pigtail are still at my parents' place
19:29.15GnarfozI'm not sure it even does 802.11g, though
19:29.31znfAt least they're using Ubiquity
19:29.32Gnarfozit might, but certainly not n or anything else
19:29.57znfNo point, really. Now you can just use your phone.
19:30.04znfI also get 5ghz
19:30.13Gnarfozwell, antenna sensitivity aside
19:30.27Gnarfozalso, do they allow monitor mode? I have no idea
19:31.03Gnarfozkismet did a lot more things than a regular card (even with Netstumbler) could do
19:31.19Gnarfozfor one: uncloaking "hidden" networks
19:32.26znfDon't know for sure
19:32.45Gnarfozin any case, the biggest advantage back then was the external car roof antenna :D
19:33.18znfChanel 5
19:33.19znfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TvfTMX7y/Screenshot_2016-05-15-22-33-04.png
19:33.20znfWTF
19:33.29Gnarfozeven if it didn't increase sensitivity (which it did, +6 dBi I think?), the difference compared to "just inside the car" is big
19:33.30znfAnd 8
19:33.31znfWTF
19:33.54Gnarfoz1/6/11 for life? :p
19:34.01Gnarfozor rather, 1/6/13 because why not.
19:34.14Gnarfoz2.4 sucks balls
19:34.25znfOh God
19:34.29znfSo retarded
19:34.53znfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BiG1ab7E/20160515_223437.jpg
19:35.12znfThey're using nanostations
19:35.12znfAnd they're using them on a pole, outside...
19:35.18znfInstead of inside the hotel
19:35.19znfDear God
19:35.22Torhalwiggles znf's WiFi.
19:35.33znfWhat kind of retards suggested this setup
19:37.34znfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3n5Dvg9h/Screenshot_2016-05-15-22-37-20.png
19:37.37znfWTF is willibox
19:38.41GnarfozWilibox*
19:38.45Stanzillaa box to put your willi in
19:38.49GnarfozWillibox sounds too German to be associated with that :P
19:39.04znfWTH is 4e:d9:e7:23:80:75
19:39.14znfCant find the vendor
19:39.32Gnarfozubiquiti
19:39.41Gnarfozhttp://hwaddress.com/mac-address-range/44-D9-E7-00-00-00/44-D9-E7-FF-FF-FF?page=14
19:39.47Gnarfozwait what
19:39.53Gnarfozwhy is that a result for my search
19:40.10Gnarfozthat is not what I put into the searchmask :D
19:41.32Gnarfozznf: relative to the flight master, where's the nearest inn in Orgrimmar?
19:42.19Gnarfozor some other Horde
19:42.48TorhalBy the south gate IIRC.
19:43.18znfJump down, by the tower, on the left?
19:43.28znfI've no idea
19:43.36znfJust use thw map feature :D
19:44.54Gnarfozoh right, minimap has an innkeepers filter
19:46.04Gnarfozfinally set my hearthstone to Org instead of Valley of fucking Trials
19:46.35Gnarfozalways forgot it and ported back to there :P
19:52.08Gnarfozoh btw, nevcairiel, can I bug you about something inventory related?
19:53.19nevcairieli guess
19:55.41Gnarfozhave you noticed any weirdness with the blizzard bag cleanup/sort thing? not all my characters' bags behave the same with it
19:56.26Gnarfozparticularly, my "make a new level 100 char" Legion boost shaman on live and my premade Paladin on beta sort weirdly compared to my regular live characters
19:56.53Gnarfozspecifically, if I sort on my 3 old characters, stuff fills bags from backpack, to bag 1, 2, 3, 4
19:57.17Gnarfozwhereas the new ones put stuff in bag4 and trash in the backpack, but leaving the very first slot empty
19:57.42Gnarfozhas that ever happened to you? :D or do you know the blizz stuff well enough to know why?
19:57.45nevcairieli dont use their sorting much cause I hate it
19:58.00nevcairielbut there are some options on live to control it
19:58.04nevcairielprobably went the way of the dodo on beta
19:58.16GnarfozI've forced myself to get used to it because it was so much faster and reliable than whatever I was using before (I think BankStack)
19:58.26nevcairieli manually sort
19:58.27nevcairielby hand
19:58.29GnarfozKemayo: that means you! ^^
19:58.29nevcairielbecause i can
19:59.00Gnarfozthe options to mark certain bags for certain categories? or is there more somewhere else?
19:59.13nevcairielyou can definitely mark bags for certain things yes
19:59.22nevcairielthere are also some general options in the interface options
19:59.26Gnarfoz(I checked, no bags are marked for anything)
19:59.31Gnarfozoh ok, I guess I'll have to check there
20:02.58nevcairielFisker did you see http://videocardz.com/59962/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-final-specifications-and-launch-presentation
20:07.01Gnarfozhow do I move the dumb mage tower elementals away? every time I move them, they just reset back to their previous position
20:07.14nevcairielthey are broken
20:07.17GnarfozI guess I could just remove the mage tower, it's not like I need it anymore :D
20:07.31nevcairielsometimes it helps to jump on them and switch their powerup mode around
20:07.38nevcairiel(which is also severly broken)
20:08.50Gnarfozyeah, the powerup mode shouldn't even be visible
20:08.52Gnarfozit used to not be
20:09.00Gnarfozand they started being broken when it showed up ^^
20:09.17nevcairielmine were stuck on a reset loop for ever
20:09.33nevcairielthen one day i tried every button they offered me, and they fixed themself
20:09.53Gnarfoznevcairiel: "loot to leftmost bag" and "reverse clean up bags", I guess
20:10.31Gnarfozah yes. reverse clean up + bagnon "reverse bag order" = win
20:12.16Gnarfoz~framexml
20:12.17purlBlizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ .
20:12.29SemlarreverseCleanupBags was removed
20:14.10StanzillaIn legion, yes
20:14.23Stanzillaso get used to it now, Gnarfoz
20:14.38GnarfozSemlar: are you kidding me
20:14.39nevcairielI still maintain my stance and cleaning my own bags! :)
20:14.54Gnarfozand loot to leftmost is on by default?
20:14.55StanzillaGnarfoz: we are not
20:15.00Gnarfozoh wait, backpack isn't leftmost.
20:15.06Gnarfozbut why is the sorting so weird?
20:15.14nevcairielwhen I pressed the cleanup button on legion for the test, it did sort all non-grey gear to my last bag
20:15.19Gnarfozwhen I enable reverse, it's certainly not the reverse of what happens with it disabled
20:15.37Gnarfozit sorts them to my first...? or maybe I enabled bag reversal in Inventorian, if it has such an option
20:15.43nevcairielit does not
20:16.20nevcairielthe sort option looks kinda funky with a all-in-one bag addon, since you dont see where the bags are
20:17.26Semlarto be fair reverseCleanupBags wasn't in my original cvar list either
20:17.45Semlarso either i was missing it somehow or it wasn't really in the exe
20:18.15Semlarwhere is it used on live Stanzilla
20:18.37Semlargoogle returns nothing
20:20.21Stanzillahttps://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/InterfaceOptionsPanels.xml#306
20:20.41Semlaroh it's not a cvar
20:20.48nevcairielits a fancy function, yeah
20:21.31Semlarwell that would explain why it's not in my diff
20:22.05Semlarso it's SetInsertItemsLeftToRight and SetSortBagsRightToLeft
20:22.31Stanzillaadd a checkbox for it :D
20:22.32Semlari like that they switched up the directions
20:22.53nevcairielits a Semlar-thing to do
20:23.01Semlari would never
20:23.09Semlarbecause i would never remember which is which
20:24.37Semlarthere seem to be a lot more interface categories on live than the beta
20:24.50Semlari guess they decided to trim it down
20:26.02Semlarso they made 4 api functions instead of adding 2 cvars for these options that are essentially just cvars
20:26.17Semlarwhy did they do this
20:29.33znfhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VRPcf1Pe/Screenshot_2016-05-15-23-28-46.png
20:29.37Gnarfoznevcairiel: should I be afraid to use bt4 on beta?
20:29.37znfThere we go. Run finished.
20:31.51Gnarfozgreat, still no adventure map (or NPCs) in my order hall
20:36.39Gnarfoznevcairiel: /run SetSortBagsRightToLeft(true) on beta = yay
20:39.19Semlarsets gnarfoz RightToLeft
20:41.09Semlarevery time i change a cvar it redraws the nameplates
20:43.10Semlarlike they all get rearranged and it changes their draw order and stuff
20:43.39Semlarprobably to adopt any nameplate cvar changes you made
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21:04.20znfThere we go. Achievement of the night.
21:04.35znfI made our ticketing system finally accept replies via email
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21:05.56znf...oh great. I get the reply back to my inbox as a "ticket response"
21:05.56znfwtf
21:07.26StanzillaFisker: did that hit you? http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/05/15/some-pixel-c-owners-are-reporting-random-reboots-after-the-may-over-the-air-update/
21:10.01nevcairielGnarfoz: bt4 should work fine, even more so the latest alpha
21:13.46znfdoes ElvUI work? :D
21:14.54znfI'm kidding. Don't shoot me.
21:16.57znfwell, shit, I've never run portsnap fetch update on this storage box
21:16.59znfthis takes ages O.o
21:19.47nevcairielmuricans dont have pfingsten, so we get game of thrones tonight, yes?
21:19.57Semlarwhat
21:20.09Semlarwhat's a pfingsten
21:20.25nevcairielpentecost, apparently
21:20.46Semlarsurprisingly that doesn't clarify anything for me
21:20.59nevcairielwhitsun?
21:21.00znfSome stupid religious crap?
21:21.02znfam I close?
21:21.06Semlarwait when was easter
21:21.12nevcairiela long time ago
21:21.21Semlarfifty days after easter?
21:21.33Semlarwhat kind of schedule are they on
21:21.35nevcairielyes
21:21.46nevcairiel49 days after easter sunday
21:21.56Semlarhow long can you coast on the same holiday
21:22.02nevcairielso tomorrow, national holiday
21:22.09nevcairieland no work \o/
21:22.31nevcairielbut muricans dont do such things, so probably game of thrones tonight
21:22.39Semlari guess that would explain the "pente"cost
21:22.45znflooks at his storage box
21:22.49znfwhy the fuck is samba enabled
21:22.50nebulawhy would they not air a tv show on a holiday?
21:22.54znfdoes zfs enable samba?!
21:23.03nevcairielnebula: holidays always fuck with tv schedules
21:23.21Semlarwe don't have holidays over here, we work 24/7
21:23.35Semlarunless you're a bank or a post office and then you're never open
21:23.39nebulaonly 24 hours Semlar? fucking slacker
21:24.56Semlarevery day's a holiday!
21:30.49znf===>   mutt-1.6.1 depends on executable: lynx - not found
21:30.55znfwell, this ports shit is boring
21:31.08Gnarfozwheee, server crashed and for the moment, class hall is working
21:31.59nevcairielthat does u sually help for a bit
21:32.15Gnarfoznevcairiel: what's "s" suffix mean in quester?
21:32.35nevcairielscenario
21:32.50nevcairielprobably makes not much sense now that those are only a story telling tool
21:32.57nevcairieland no longer their own little dungeons to go to
21:33.00Gnarfoz"s"tory
21:33.08Gnarfoz:D
21:33.32Gnarfozgot my hands on the quest item that only one person can loot from the big mob in the underwater cave off Suramar
21:33.41nevcairielcheater
21:33.45nevcairieli gave up on that and wrote a report
21:33.53Gnarfozwas before the crash, even
21:33.53nevcairieldoes that quest go anywhere?
21:33.58Gnarfozyep
21:34.06Gnarfozback to Khadgar, who sends you to Exodar
21:34.15Gnarfoz(it's apparently about discovering that Turalyon is alive)
21:34.39Gnarfoznot real Exodar, though, it's a scenario (as the quest indicates :D)
21:34.41Ironiizomg spoilers.
21:35.54Gnarfozalways find the situation confusing where one NPC has voiceover but another doesn't
21:35.58Gnarfozand they're talking to each otehr
21:56.41znfhttps://documentation.cpanel.net/display/ALD/Manage+Service+SSL+Certificates#ManageServiceSSLCertificates-FreecPanel-signedcertificate
21:56.42znfthat's nice
22:17.06StanzillaKesava is a busy bee today
22:18.28Gnarfozphasing is so bad
22:19.11nevcairielhopefully they get that under control soon, i've had times when leveling worked, and other times when I rather log out and stare out a window
22:19.23nevcairieldungeons are fun though
22:19.58GnarfozI'm using my "mount indoors for 3 seconds" thing (the crusader steed they copied from diablo) to get to NPCs before they vanish into thin phasing air
22:20.01Gnarfozin my class hall, that is
22:20.11Gnarfozwhat is the offical name of those? order hall? class hall?
22:20.13nevcairieldoes that actually work?
22:20.18Gnarfozyeah, it does
22:20.19nevcairielorder hall
22:20.26Gnarfozif you can reach them quick enough to interact with them
22:20.35Gnarfoz(quickquest and/or interact with target keybind helps)
22:20.52Gnarfozhowever, now I can't find a spot where they appear again. :|
22:21.42GnarfozI guess I'll go do a dungeon or quest a bit and wait for the server to crash
22:21.47Gnarfozso I can do order hall things
22:22.51Stanzillawonder what they did
22:22.58Stanzillaif it really is just the load
22:23.09Gnarfozit's the load, or it would have been the same in Alpha
22:23.18Semlarshare the load stanzilla
22:23.19Gnarfozand/or wouldn't work for a bit after restarts, then break down
22:23.30Stanzillacould have just been the latest build
22:23.39Stanzillathere was not much alpha with it
22:23.53Gnarfozliterally none, if I paid attention?
22:24.00Stanzillahalf a day or so
22:24.15Gnarfozbut yeah, kind of unlikely that's the cause
22:24.32StanzillaSemlar: sure, got a tuna sandwich ready?
22:24.38Gnarfozoh hey, Arator the Redeemed is in an area where I have NPCs
22:24.42nevcairielthe load is right now much much much higher then alpha ever had
22:24.45Torhalloads Semlar into a laser printer.
22:25.04nevcairielthe game has always employed this kind of phasing to reduce load
22:25.12nevcairielits just doing it over-zealously
22:25.30Gnarfozalmost feels like leveling in Nagrand on WoD launch
22:25.34Semlarso you're saying it's just a phase?
22:25.45Gnarfozwhich basically felt like questing in fog with 3 meters of visibility
22:25.54TorhalNo, Semlar, you weren't even phased by the printer.
22:26.06Gnarfozyou just had to inch around to find enemies
22:26.11Semlarsets phasers to stun
22:26.37TorhalGnarfoz: I just have to try to tab-complete on quiescens to find enemies.
22:26.44TorhalDamn cookies.
22:26.46TorhalAnd dying.
22:26.50Gnarfozand sleep
22:26.56TorhalThat, too.
22:27.38Stanzillathere is a cvar that controls that phasing stuff btw
22:28.00Gnarfozwhich phasing stuff? and which cvar?
22:28.02Semlarthere's a cvar for everything
22:28.12nevcairielmost of them change plain nothing tho =p
22:28.28StanzillaI'm not sure it's the same but
22:28.30Stanzilla["unitClutter"] = { prettyName = "", description = "Enables/Disables unit clutter", type = "boolean"},
22:28.30Stanzilla<PROTECTED>
22:28.30Stanzilla<PROTECTED>
22:29.16Ressyclutter is usually 'extra' stuff, extra grass on the ground?
22:29.35StanzillaI think it is how many other players you see around you
22:30.07RessyI doubt they'd allow that..
22:30.21Ressyespecially after they made it so that you can't force the realm hopping off.
22:30.30Gnarfozthat's either for nameplates
22:30.41Gnarfozor for the new "better visibility for my own character in raids" stuff
22:30.59Gnarfozand certainly not for grass and stuff on the ground, since that's not "unitclutter" :p
22:31.00Stanzillathe latter is called findYourself though
22:31.20Gnarfozwell, maybe it's more of it. or abandoned work?
22:31.44Stanzilladunno
22:31.47Stanzilladid you try it?
22:31.49Gnarfozno
22:32.00Gnarfozmaybe it's to control the threshold for when the "show less spell detail for other players" stuff kicks in
22:32.05Semlarnope
22:32.09Semlarthat's all under spellclutter
22:32.13Gnarfozhah
22:32.14Semlar<PROTECTED>
22:32.29RessyBefore, if you blocked specific ports, you wouldn't be moved to another realm share... But they've just recently blocked that.
22:32.30Gnarfozwell, NPCs aren't players, though
22:32.59nevcairielobviously they dont want you fucking with the games decision making Ressy =p
22:33.04Ressymmhmmm
22:33.05Gnarfozand it seems rather unrelated.
22:33.11Semlarwell culling player models doesn't have anything to do with realm hopping
22:33.21Gnarfozexactly
22:33.46RessyNo, but similarly they don't want you choosign what you do & don't see, unless its minor environmental
22:33.56Semlarwhy
22:34.43RessyIF you can choose it via cvar, who's to say someone can't have a char on Alliance & Horde on a PVP realm, and then share a WA script to flip it.. so you don't see the enemy coming at you.
22:35.12Gnarfozwhat the hell does that even mean
22:35.33Gnarfozlay off the drugs, m'am
22:35.37Ressysigh.
22:35.37Semlarcouldn't you just black out their screen and disable their keys
22:35.41Semlari mean
22:36.06Semlarif you're running scripts on their client anyway
22:36.20RessyMany of which are blocked already
22:36.23Semlari suppose you'd want them to watch
22:36.29Semlarso probably not black out the screen
22:36.36Semlarjust disable their buttons
22:36.46Semlarstanzilla, get on that
22:36.47GnarfozI hear mikma made an addon for that once upon a time, Semlar
22:36.55Semlari want to see some back doors in WA by the end of the day
22:37.14Stanzillathere are some, still
22:37.18Stanzillaso you just find them
22:37.32Semlaralright i want an itemized list on my desk by the time i get back from making dinner
22:37.37GnarfozSemlar: what's the default for that cvar anyway
22:37.40Semlar10
22:38.05Semlarit's also set to only apply inside of an instance by default
22:38.10Semlarso
22:38.17Semlarwho knows what it really does
22:38.21Gnarfozwell. even less of a reason to assume it has any effect on this ^^
22:38.51Semlar["unitClutter"] = "Enables/Disables unit clutter" THANKS BLIZZARD
22:39.02SemlarTHAT'S REAL DESCRIPTIVE
22:39.17Gnarfozdoes that at least default to on
22:39.22Gnarfozoh yay
22:39.23Gnarfozit crashed
22:39.24Semlaryes
22:39.26Gnarfoztime to go to my order hall.
22:39.31Gnarfoz(when it comes back up)
22:39.41Semlarit's on, set to 10 and instance-only by default
22:40.11Ironiistop breaking the server
22:40.12Ironii:/
22:40.17Gnarfozmeh, looks like it was just a disconnect
22:40.24nevcairielbreaking the server is good, it resets all the phasing
22:40.44nevcairielbut today is sunday, they dont seem to be doing too much to it today, havent seen an actual restart or anything
22:40.55Gnarfozthey tweeted they have people working on it
22:41.09Stanzillazorbrix is out of the office so no one is tweeting :D
22:41.12RessyThey were working on the phasing stuff yesterday?
22:41.13Gnarfozthat's something I assume to be true any day of the week at a time like this, though
22:41.15Ressyor day before.
22:41.21Gnarfoztoday, too.
22:41.27Gnarfozwell, timezones.
22:41.42Gnarfozbut zorbrix said there's still people working on it, even though he's gone til tuesday
22:44.36nevcairielclearly they want this fixed as well so people can actually test everything else
22:45.03Gnarfozpeople losing interest because they can't even leave Dalaran is bound to affect their testing feedback, yeah ^^
22:45.23nevcairieloften its hard to know if something is just the phasing bug or the quest having problems
22:45.40znf.dbs prodanimpex.ro
22:45.41znferm
22:45.49GnarfozI've really only had issues in my order hall and in Dalaran, not while questing
22:45.52nevcairielwhat do i know if this area is underpopulated because i finished the objectives with 30% on the bonus bar, or if i just dont see the bonus objective mobs =p
22:46.02nevcairielhighmountain is phasing terribly
22:46.13nevcairielvalsharah and stormheim were mostly fine
22:46.17GnarfozI've only been to Azsuna so far
22:47.02nevcairielstarted there yesterday with a friend, but we got stuck on the academy quest because a quest npc phased away, so we gave up for the night
22:52.26Ironiidoesn't demon hunters get dalaran hearthstone or did i miss a quest ? o.o
23:02.02Gnarfozdo the dungeons scale freely, too? I forget
23:02.32Gnarfozlooks like it, says 98-110
23:02.52GnarfozO
23:03.00GnarfozI'm surprised there's no CTA active? :P
23:04.40Gnarfozdid Sky Admiral Rogers just say "from 300 meters"
23:04.50GnarfozAzeroth got metric before the US did
23:06.18Gnarfozgryphon rider loading screen \o/
23:06.41Gnarfozheh, all these [cinematic goes here] placeholders
23:07.10GnarfozI think during the "falling star" quest thing Khadgar even used /yell to yell "cinematic goes here" :D
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23:17.52Gnarfozaha, at least now I know how you were supposed to end up at this quest hub
23:18.04Gnarfoz5 months ago, I just jumped off of Dalaran and swam here. :D
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