| 00:04.03 | Trela | blinks. |
| 00:04.18 | Trela | They are really planning to remove pressing backspace to navigate backwards in Chrome? |
| 00:05.18 | Fisker | They already did it |
| 00:05.34 | Trela | What. |
| 00:05.40 | Trela | Why would they make such an idiotic decision? |
| 00:05.42 | znf | Good |
| 00:05.47 | Fisker | https://codereview.chromium.org/1854963002 |
| 00:05.50 | znf | Who uses backspace to go back in history? |
| 00:06.03 | Trela | I do. |
| 00:06.19 | Predicate | What else would you use? |
| 00:06.30 | Torhal | Alt-right arrow |
| 00:06.39 | Fisker | alt right arrow is terrible |
| 00:06.42 | znf | I just click the button |
| 00:06.44 | Trela | Great. Now fucking Firefox will do the same because "They must be like Chrome". |
| 00:06.47 | Predicate | Great when you're not on a laptop with no physical arrow keys... |
| 00:07.08 | Torhal | Er, alt-left arrow. I need to wake up. |
| 00:09.01 | Torhal | You guys just need to make your own Firefox, with blackjack and hookers. |
| 00:09.15 | Trela | I am primarily a keyboard user. Removing standard shortcuts hurts accessibility in the long run. :/ |
| 00:09.56 | Predicate | I already have a browser I like, it's just that none of my handy Firefox addons work in it :( |
| 00:10.41 | Stanzilla | they are creating an extension for it though <<<< |
| 00:11.59 | Predicate | An extension for a keyboard shortcut for one of the most used functions in the browser? |
| 00:12.30 | Predicate | What's next, links can no longer be clicked with a mouse, but "they are creating an extension for it"? |
| 00:12.58 | Megalon | nope |
| 00:13.05 | Megalon | they'll throw out EVERYTHING |
| 00:13.14 | Megalon | and firefox just bootstraps an extension framework |
| 00:13.16 | Megalon | 8D |
| 00:13.17 | Fisker | To be fair their stats apparently say otherwise Predicate |
| 00:13.33 | Megalon | don't think i used backspace to navigate ever |
| 00:13.36 | Predicate | They have stats saying people don't navigate backwards in their history? |
| 00:15.32 | Trela | Predicate: If you use Chrome and never bothered to turn off its analytics, it tracks EVERYTHING you do. |
| 00:17.27 | Predicate | Oh, I'm well aware, but I find it hard to believe that nobody uses the back button. |
| 00:18.28 | Trela | Apparently Chrome does not prevent the accidental clearing of form contents from the comments I am seeing. |
| 00:19.25 | Predicate | Oh, is this a case of "ban rope in case people accidentally tie a noose and hang themselves"? |
| 00:19.36 | Trela | Yep. |
| 00:20.26 | Stanzilla | yes it is :D |
| 00:20.50 | Trela | In Firefox if you hit backspace outside a form element and form elements have been changed through user interaction it will display a warning. |
| 00:21.05 | Predicate | Wow, that's even worse. |
| 00:21.49 | Stanzilla | they should just make it a setting |
| 00:21.51 | Predicate | How about, if people don't want their data erased, they don't press a button which is designated in literally every piece of software as an "erase data" hotkey? |
| 00:22.42 | Trela | People are dumb. Firefox solved that by providing a pop up warning, "Please don't be dumb." Chrome solves it by removing functionality. |
| 00:24.16 | Predicate | Why is it software's job to solve people? |
| 00:24.29 | Stanzilla | it's more about money anyway |
| 00:24.50 | Megalon | so it's about bitches in the long run |
| 00:24.59 | Stanzilla | less dumb people that fuck up => support agents being able to help people with other problems |
| 00:25.01 | znf | how's a free browser market about money? |
| 00:25.02 | znf | ah |
| 00:25.07 | Trela | Chrome is only popular because it is shoved in people's face through a search engine monopoly. :/ |
| 00:25.08 | znf | people should stop fucking up |
| 00:25.13 | znf | good, I like chrome |
| 00:25.24 | znf | google did what firefox couldn't |
| 00:25.27 | znf | get people to stop using IE |
| 00:25.41 | znf | and the web is better off with this in mind |
| 00:26.14 | Trela | Firefox had over a 50% market share previously. They were clearly getting people to stop using IE. |
| 00:26.15 | znf | 5 years ago the web was in a very dark place because it needed to support IE |
| 00:26.19 | znf | what? no |
| 00:26.38 | Predicate | And 5 years before that it was in a dark place because it had to support Netscape Navigator. Time is a flat circle. |
| 00:26.49 | Torhal | flattens znf. |
| 00:27.05 | Trela | Now the web is in a dark place because we forced to support Chrome only bugs.(HALF MY FUCKING DAY TODAY.) |
| 00:27.19 | Trela | *we are |
| 00:27.29 | znf | firefox never had 50% |
| 00:27.41 | Predicate | No, the web is in a dark place because it has to support mobile devices, and for some reason that means serving garbage layouts to perfectly capable computers too. |
| 00:28.22 | Trela | Predicate: Oh yeah. I just love the new trend of MASSIVE IMAGES that take up 100% of the screen with no indication of scrollable content. |
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| 00:29.19 | Predicate | and giant flat areas with no visual indication of a "button" because you're just supposed to "touch the square"? Yeah, I feel like I'm in kindergarten whenever I accidentally make my browser window too narrow. |
| 00:32.02 | znf | the web is not in a dark place |
| 00:32.10 | znf | the web is more advanced than it ever was |
| 00:32.33 | Predicate | That's a pretty dark place to some people |
| 00:34.03 | znf | ActiveX was a dark place |
| 00:34.28 | Trela | The feature I coded last week works fine in Firefox, Safari, and IE. Chrome? Nope, special bug. |
| 00:35.15 | Megalon | was that the hot horny singles in your area thing? |
| 00:35.29 | Trela | Nah. |
| 00:35.34 | Torhal | You're becoming stranger over time, Megalon. |
| 00:35.54 | znf | and that is somewhat worse than |
| 00:35.58 | znf | "you need IE to visit this page" |
| 00:35.59 | znf | ? |
| 00:36.10 | Predicate | Uh, that still exists |
| 00:36.57 | Predicate | I just used a website yesterday that not only claimed to require IE6, but actually failed to work in Chrome and Firefox. I had to use Windows just so I could make it work. |
| 00:36.59 | znf | my banking websites don't ask IE |
| 00:37.07 | znf | doesn't* |
| 00:39.08 | Torhal | The straw-man arguments are strong with this one. |
| 00:39.31 | Predicate | My bank website works in FF/Chrome, but lacks features I'd like to use...if only I had a smartphone to run the app, I could use them. |
| 00:40.41 | znf | what features could a banking website lack...? |
| 00:41.48 | Predicate | Depositing checks from home. The smartphone app lets you just take a picture of the front and back, but the website has no functionality for that even if you have a scanner, webcam, digital camera, etc. |
| 00:42.27 | nebula | why would you even open the website if that was your intent |
| 00:42.29 | znf | And who's fault is that? HTML5 provides support for that |
| 00:42.56 | Predicate | Like I said, the web is in a dark place because it's designed to support mobile devices, and computers are an afterthought. |
| 00:43.36 | Stanzilla | http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/05/19/night-mode-and-dark-theme-are-very-unlikely-to-ship-in-android-n/ :(((( |
| 00:43.54 | Predicate | Our most powerful devices are crippled by the limitations of their more popular, but less functional, competitors. Kinda like with gaming :) |
| 00:46.20 | znf | I don't see how mobile support hinders your ability to scan checks in your bank's website |
| 00:47.15 | Torhal | Because they concentrate on mobile, and don't add the support to the non-mobile version. |
| 00:47.30 | znf | I'm pretty sure mobile and desktop support uploading a picture... |
| 00:47.57 | Torhal | Yes, they do. You're just being argumentative for argument's sake, though. |
| 00:48.38 | znf | I'm just saying Chrome made things shitloads better. |
| 00:48.40 | znf | For the web. |
| 00:49.52 | Stanzilla | you guys should have watched google i/o |
| 00:49.52 | znf | And, for the web, it did things that Mozilla's Firefox wasn't able to do. |
| 00:50.34 | znf | http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp |
| 00:50.38 | znf | firefox never had 50% |
| 00:53.10 | Stanzilla | beta build is out |
| 00:53.45 | Fisker | beta of what? |
| 00:53.59 | Fisker | Context is important |
| 00:54.31 | Stanzilla | legion |
| 00:55.52 | Predicate | Are the realms coming up? |
| 00:56.32 | Stanzilla | not yet |
| 00:57.00 | Stanzilla | known issues http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743795208 |
| 00:58.24 | Kesava | 2g jeez |
| 00:58.27 | Kesava | what did they do |
| 00:58.46 | Stanzilla | 3 actually |
| 01:03.30 | Megalon | :o |
| 01:30.55 | nebula | haven't played legion much this week, they fix phasing stuff? or is the underbelly still disabled |
| 01:32.08 | Kesava | underbelly's still disabled, i'm pretty sure they've raised tolerance on the phasing but haven't actually fixed it yet |
| 01:32.15 | Kesava | but we can actually play now at least |
| 01:32.42 | Kesava | (my theory being that tolerance is artificially lowered in the beta so they can test it) |
| 01:33.20 | nebula | tolernace for what? not sure how that would apply to being in a phase |
| 01:33.32 | Predicate | Anyone have the build number? |
| 01:33.43 | Kesava | the load balancing. that's what's trying to put you in different phases/on different realms |
| 01:33.46 | Kesava | "realms" |
| 01:33.50 | Kesava | 21737 |
| 01:33.58 | Predicate | Awesome, perfect |
| 01:34.12 | nebula | ah, would call that sharding |
| 01:34.58 | Predicate | In case anyone's wondering, the old "Battle.net.exe --game=wow_beta --install" trick still works for getting the Legion client on a non-beta-flagged account. >_> |
| 01:37.14 | Megalon | did you shard your pants? |
| 01:47.41 | Stanzilla | servers up |
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| 02:09.40 | quiescens | moo |
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| 07:05.07 | Phixion | morning |
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| 07:09.10 | quiescens | gives Phixion a cookie |
| 07:17.04 | Phixion | \o/ |
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| 08:41.44 | Gnarfoz | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Fortschritte-GNU-Projekt-aktualisiert-Hurd-und-Mach-3211287.html it's the year of Hurd? ^^ |
| 08:42.40 | nevcairiel | you wish |
| 08:43.20 | nevcairiel | they just took their old-ass versions and updated them to build with newer compilers =p |
| 08:55.45 | Gnarfoz | it's apparently the year of the Linux desktop, though https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/GPbJZX8fmtL |
| 08:55.58 | Kalroth | :o |
| 08:56.03 | Kalroth | first Hurd now Linux |
| 08:56.14 | Kalroth | what's next, BeOS? |
| 08:56.24 | Kalroth | oh shit, that link is to G+ |
| 08:56.47 | Phixion | torvalds is p active on g+ |
| 08:56.54 | Kalroth | an announcement about Linux on Google+! |
| 08:59.01 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: chromebooks dont really count as linux desktops |
| 09:00.32 | Kalroth | its not a browser!!11 |
| 09:00.36 | Kalroth | its nooot |
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| 09:04.09 | quiescens | o.o |
| 09:31.10 | Gnarfoz | oh and nev, re XP to 110: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/412518-xp-required-to-level/ |
| 09:32.08 | quiescens | gives Gnarfoz 2 xp |
| 09:33.59 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i saw |
| 09:37.11 | nevcairiel | doesnt help those that already finished leveling =p |
| 09:37.35 | nevcairiel | its not something easily tested, unfortunately |
| 09:38.37 | Gnarfoz | well, my mate is trying all 3 warlock specs on different chars, maybe he likes the one he hasn't started yet best and continues it to 110! |
| 09:38.39 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 09:39.13 | nevcairiel | another issue is that a lot of side quest hubs are not marked right now, so unless you stumble onto them accidentally |
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| 11:50.14 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/ITfdL5f.png |
| 11:50.21 | znf | that's one good thing done by cPanel |
| 11:50.25 | znf | now if it had let's encrypt... |
| 11:50.55 | Kalroth | https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=608016 wryyyy |
| 11:51.06 | Kalroth | cursed chrome developers |
| 11:52.08 | znf | I just have a mouse with back/forward buttons |
| 11:52.13 | znf | I haven't used one without them in ages |
| 11:54.45 | Kalroth | i guess i'm just old and grumpy |
| 11:55.02 | Kalroth | kicks the bucket containing a quiescens |
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| 12:01.38 | Kalroth | http://www.techpowerup.com/222608/colorful-and-bykski-announce-liquid-cooling-ready-gtx-1080-fe-bundle |
| 12:01.45 | Kalroth | ".. at a $100 premium (so that's a $100 premium over a $100 premium, over the $599 MSRP, totaling $799 for .." |
| 12:01.47 | Kalroth | haha |
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| 12:03.23 | nevcairiel | crazy secondary power type changes in legion, been trying to fix all the class modules in SUF for an hour |
| 12:12.17 | quiescens | dies. |
| 12:13.02 | wink | casts Resurrection |
| 12:13.47 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 12:13.55 | Kalroth | aaaaaaa a zombie |
| 12:13.59 | Kalroth | stabs quiescens |
| 12:14.08 | quiescens | dies. |
| 12:16.21 | Kalroth | dials 1-800-Supernatural and watches as the Winchester boys burns quiescens' bones |
| 12:20.02 | quiescens | ): |
| 12:20.43 | Kalroth | can't have you haunt us forever! |
| 13:16.41 | Gnarfoz | So 2016... our new account manager used to be a pro gamer oO |
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| 13:26.34 | nevcairiel | so actual pro, like literal meaning, ie. being paid, or just good? |
| 13:27.19 | Gnarfoz | the former, he was with mousesports for a while |
| 13:37.25 | Phixion | :) |
| 13:37.37 | Phixion | is he 19? |
| 13:48.41 | Gnarfoz | that would mean he won CS tournaments at the age of... 5? checks out, I guess |
| 13:48.52 | pompy | https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20119622 |
| 13:57.12 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: finally, you can use Franz, too https://twitter.com/smalzner/status/733617572688494593 |
| 13:59.01 | Phixion | :D |
| 14:02.06 | Gnarfoz | Phixion: https://twitter.com/FilcoUK/status/733606532282261504 |
| 14:02.26 | Phixion | oh my gawd |
| 14:02.29 | Phixion | I want it |
| 14:02.54 | nevcairiel | they release a new color and your panties drop? |
| 14:02.54 | Gnarfoz | pretty nice looking |
| 14:03.42 | Phixion | yep nevcairiel |
| 14:03.58 | Gnarfoz | sadly, they're probably same, flimsy ABS keycaps that regular FIlcos come with |
| 14:03.59 | nevcairiel | must be nice to make money without even trying |
| 14:04.07 | Megalon | lol |
| 14:04.25 | nevcairiel | "lets release a new keyboard with .. hmm .. yellow keycaps, that'll get those suckers buying!" |
| 14:04.31 | Gnarfoz | and I don't think I'm buying Cherry MX again if I can avoid it, Gateron <3 |
| 14:04.48 | Gnarfoz | so, no new keyboard for me, 5 is enough for now! :P |
| 14:04.55 | Megalon | vienna is ... |
| 14:05.18 | Phixion | miss vienna |
| 14:08.24 | Phixion | Gnarfoz: I always end up typing on my poker2 |
| 14:08.33 | Phixion | all the other ones are dust collectors :) |
| 14:08.50 | Phixion | well I equipped one of our DCs with a proper keyboard the other month |
| 14:11.54 | Gnarfoz | typing on my Planck at work, and just this week switched back to the Filco at home |
| 14:12.26 | Gnarfoz | got annoyed with not having ` left of 1 on live WoW |
| 14:12.27 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 14:12.35 | Gnarfoz | (on my KC60) |
| 14:12.35 | Phixion | :D |
| 14:12.56 | Gnarfoz | I was using it for almost everything before now, though (Gateron brown, so good) |
| 14:13.10 | Gnarfoz | (it's basically a Poker 2, layout-wise) |
| 14:13.15 | Phixion | yeah |
| 14:13.20 | Phixion | never typed on gates |
| 14:13.25 | Phixion | :( |
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| 14:18.53 | Gnarfoz | Melinda is missing out |
| 14:19.17 | Gnarfoz | right, this also means that I could finally take it apart and check which LED is dead |
| 14:19.20 | nevcairiel | wat |
| 14:19.34 | Hekili | Thanks for the invite, Gnarfoz. |
| 14:21.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: Gate(ron)s, cherry MX clones; Bill Gates would have been too obvious, so I went with the wife instead. :P |
| 14:21.49 | Phixion | :D |
| 14:21.58 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: and that keyboard's backlight died, so I assume at least one LED is dead (since they're usually wired in series) |
| 14:22.10 | Gnarfoz | Hekili: that was quick :D |
| 14:22.19 | Phixion | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.31 | Hekili | The alternative is doing work right now, so IRC sounded like a priority. |
| 14:22.43 | Gnarfoz | can confirm, IRC > work |
| 14:22.51 | Fisker | Hey Phixion |
| 14:22.54 | Fisker | i |
| 14:22.55 | Gnarfoz | welcome to our extended living rooms/offices/echo chamber |
| 14:22.58 | Phixion | hey Fisker |
| 14:23.00 | Phixion | been missing you |
| 14:23.14 | Fisker | I've been missing you |
| 14:23.21 | Fisker | And everything but work |
| 14:23.32 | Phixion | didnt do much this week tbh |
| 14:23.39 | Hekili | I'm going to need to get an IRC client. |
| 14:24.00 | Phixion | irssi is cool |
| 14:24.12 | Gnarfoz | Quassel is, too |
| 14:24.40 | Fisker | Quassel best |
| 14:25.10 | Phixion | s/best/worst/ |
| 14:25.25 | Gnarfoz | Hekili: I think I replied to your recent call for module developers with a somewhat basic question and never followed up... what does maintaining a module entail? I'm not sure if people have come forward, yet, but I'd be sad to not be able to use your addon in Legion |
| 14:25.52 | Hekili | There's no real danger that my addon won't exist in Legion or anything. |
| 14:26.10 | nevcairiel | what addon is that? |
| 14:26.22 | Hekili | I just can't test every class/spec myself outside of beta/PTR phases, so I want to hand off some of them. |
| 14:27.05 | Hekili | Module maintenance would largely be monitoring priority list updates to SimulationCraft or other theorycraft sites, updating those, and modifying abilities when Blizzard makes changes. |
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| 14:28.30 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: http://mods.curse.com/addons/wow/hekili |
| 14:28.49 | Gnarfoz | "rotation" (or priority queue) helper thingamabob |
| 14:30.35 | Gnarfoz | I guess I should look at what one of your class modules looks like from the inside |
| 14:31.16 | nevcairiel | i never believed in rotation helper adons |
| 14:31.17 | nevcairiel | +d |
| 14:31.46 | Hekili | You're not alone. |
| 14:32.26 | Megalon | i noticed that a taking a few shots is a good rotation helper |
| 14:32.37 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: but what if you're blind? |
| 14:33.24 | Gnarfoz | I use it because it allows me to focus on other things, that's about it... I was able to get by without one, I'm sure I could readjust to not having one, but it's just pretty convenient |
| 14:34.44 | Megalon | then you are pretty fucked *foz |
| 14:45.22 | Gnarfoz | I wish I was |
| 14:58.13 | Megalon | so police raided the home of some tyrolian guy |
| 14:58.40 | Megalon | 1 million files of childporn, wtf |
| 15:01.04 | Gnarfoz | Copy of copy of copy of cp (1) (1) (1) (2) |
| 15:01.11 | Gnarfoz | .gif |
| 15:01.24 | Megalon | maybe he saved his videos as series of jpgs |
| 15:01.40 | Megalon | (as he filmed himself doing it) |
| 15:01.52 | Megalon | approximated runtime of videos: 2 months |
| 15:02.00 | Megalon | that's a lot of video |
| 15:03.14 | Gnarfoz | Wait, so, an actual abuser? |
| 15:03.22 | Megalon | yes |
| 15:03.36 | Megalon | people brought kids to him |
| 15:03.39 | Gnarfoz | Because you rarely hear they catch any of those |
| 15:03.52 | Megalon | http://tvthek.orf.at/program/heute-mittag/4660089/heute-mittag/12778226/Kinderpornos-Tiroler-angeklagt/12778240 |
| 15:04.21 | Megalon | then he drugged them they say |
| 15:07.07 | Kesava | Stanzilla: yeah they've added the nameplate buff whitelist to UnitAura returns. but i don't particularly like it. |
| 15:07.31 | Kesava | so i still have to keep my list updated. psh |
| 15:10.38 | Funkeh` | https://fast.com/ no flash :) |
| 15:12.18 | Gnarfoz | There's been various non-flash speed tests around |
| 15:12.43 | Gnarfoz | Not least among them: beta.speedtest.net :-D |
| 15:13.08 | Gnarfoz | Also, fast.com is really a Netflix CDN tester, is it not? |
| 15:15.00 | Funkeh` | read the text below |
| 15:15.12 | Funkeh` | also speedtest has been in beta for months and hasn't changed at all |
| 15:15.39 | Gnarfoz | What's to change? It's a non-flash speed test :-D |
| 15:16.09 | Funkeh` | Change = a reason for it to continue in beta... progress |
| 15:16.17 | Funkeh` | If it hasn't changed whatsoever, why is it still in beta |
| 15:16.43 | Gnarfoz | Because they haven't decided to get rid of the Flash version |
| 15:16.58 | Kesava | they should do that thing |
| 15:17.00 | Funkeh` | or they don't give a fuck, or ... |
| 15:17.15 | Gnarfoz | Legacy is a real issue some programmers seem to love to ignore |
| 15:17.34 | Funkeh` | That's the great thing about starting something new |
| 15:17.44 | Gnarfoz | Also, I just read fast.com and it literally says it's a Netflix CDN tester, lol |
| 15:18.03 | Funkeh` | That's not what the text below it says |
| 15:18.17 | Gnarfoz | "download from Netflix servers" |
| 15:18.35 | Funkeh` | "Fast.com estimates your current download speed. You will generally be able to get this speed from leading internet services, which use globally distributed servers." |
| 15:18.35 | Gnarfoz | Which might be located in your ISPs network, at Amazon, or somewhere else |
| 15:18.40 | Funkeh` | very first statement |
| 15:18.46 | Gnarfoz | Read further? |
| 15:18.53 | Funkeh` | I did |
| 15:19.05 | Gnarfoz | Instead of quoting stuff that does not mention where it downloads from |
| 15:19.18 | Funkeh` | Are you seriously making an argument out of this because the downloads come from the same servers that host netflix? |
| 15:19.34 | Funkeh` | You truly love to make an argument out of everything |
| 15:19.48 | Gnarfoz | I'm saying you might be testing something inside of your ISPs own network |
| 15:19.48 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 15:21.43 | Gnarfoz | It's not a general purpose Internet speed test, is what I'm saying. Only tests one direction (not the band), doesn't let you see or influence where the server you test against is located |
| 15:22.02 | Gnarfoz | Way to accuse me of "making an argument out of everything" |
| 15:22.24 | Funkeh` | Dude practically every time I tab into IRC you're arguing with someone about something |
| 15:22.46 | Fisker | Hey Funkeh` |
| 15:22.48 | Gnarfoz | The only things it has going for it that make it make its rounds this week is: it's new, and it's HTML5 |
| 15:23.05 | Funkeh` | Yes, what's so wrong with that Gnarfoz ? |
| 15:23.10 | Funkeh` | Does that personally offend you? |
| 15:23.21 | Gnarfoz | Did I say it did? |
| 15:24.15 | Gnarfoz | I'll maybe explain what I meant later, when I'm not on my phone :-P |
| 15:33.13 | wink | Funkeh`: it's a valid point http://techblog.netflix.com/2016/03/caching-for-global-netflix.html |
| 15:33.32 | wink | apparently netflix ships you a rack full of cache servers if you're big enough of an isp and ask for it |
| 15:34.30 | wink | Gnarfoz: I'd also say there is not "general purpose internet speed test" if you're measuring anything besides N major routes around globe |
| 15:34.38 | wink | so BAM, I just managed to disagree with you both |
| 15:34.45 | wink | wins the internet |
| 15:34.51 | Gnarfoz | and I'm the one arguing for arguments' sake! |
| 15:35.38 | Gnarfoz | wink: not sure what you mean by the latter, though - the fact that even if I get to pick the server, I can't be sure I'll reach it using the same route 10 minutes later? |
| 15:36.51 | wink | Gnarfoz: rephrased: a speed test is only so useful. Let's say I pick 2-5 different servers then I can measure my max bandwidth for "more or less good to optimal conditions" - but it says nothing about daily use |
| 15:37.04 | wink | Gnarfoz: I did not insinuate that you said that, btw |
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| 15:37.26 | wink | just saying that speed tests are mostly useless. troubleshooting connection issues is.. complicated |
| 15:40.17 | Gnarfoz | I guess Netflix' fine print applies to speed tests: they're not a network engineer's toolbox, that's not their intended purpose |
| 15:40.22 | Gnarfoz | they're speed tests, after all |
| 15:40.38 | Gnarfoz | *to all speed tests |
| 15:42.16 | Gnarfoz | I might be getting more cynical, but I can't help but feel that this might be some campaign of Netflix' to get metrics on non-customers (maybe for comparison purposes, maybe for a net neutrality fight, maybe for evil word domination plans) |
| 15:43.02 | Gnarfoz | to what end, I have no idea (which might support the "it's all in your head" argument) |
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| 16:21.06 | znf | I made beef Gnarfoz https://goo.gl/photos/1TLRRSMPQD2NQ5zc8 |
| 16:21.18 | znf | half a kg of beef |
| 16:22.45 | wink | nice. you just need to work on your instagram skillz now :P |
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| 16:36.07 | Gnarfoz | znf: damn son, that'll be cold when I get there. :O |
| 16:36.29 | znf | *burp* |
| 16:36.30 | znf | I ate it |
| 16:36.38 | znf | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/h0fXyoo5/20160520_192506.jpg |
| 16:37.00 | Fisker | Ew |
| 16:37.17 | Megalon | oh in the 3rd picture it looked done |
| 16:37.20 | Megalon | instead of medium |
| 16:38.14 | Gnarfoz | nom nom |
| 16:38.24 | Gnarfoz | time to go home D: |
| 16:38.31 | znf | Megalon, yeah, I kept it a bit too long in the oven |
| 16:38.34 | znf | now I know :D |
| 16:38.44 | znf | on the thicker side it went medium |
| 16:38.53 | znf | but on the sides it went kind of done |
| 16:39.26 | Megalon | hehe |
| 16:39.34 | Megalon | sometimes i wish i knew how to cook :P |
| 16:39.48 | Stanzilla | znf: gibe |
| 16:39.58 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:40.38 | znf | not that complicated to cook |
| 16:40.43 | znf | buy 500gr of beef |
| 16:40.54 | znf | turn oven on, up and down heat + ventilation |
| 16:40.58 | znf | put it at 150°C |
| 16:41.05 | znf | put the steak in the oven for ~20-25minutes |
| 16:41.12 | znf | take it out, put it on the grill for 2 minutes |
| 16:41.13 | znf | done |
| 16:41.14 | quiescens | moo |
| 16:41.35 | Fisker | Still ew znf |
| 16:42.16 | znf | why ew, Fisker? |
| 16:42.17 | znf | why? |
| 16:43.19 | Megalon | mhm |
| 16:43.21 | Megalon | sounds easy enough |
| 16:44.24 | Fisker | It's not done znf |
| 16:44.43 | znf | beef never needs to be "done" :-| |
| 16:45.18 | Fisker | Sure it does |
| 16:45.41 | Megalon | if you like to chew on shoesoles |
| 16:45.41 | znf | no, beef is eaten rare! |
| 16:45.45 | Megalon | then you may have it done |
| 16:46.07 | Megalon | beef tartare is quite good indeed |
| 16:47.12 | znf | yeah, but that I don't know how to prepare it well |
| 16:47.22 | znf | we had a coworker a few years that was very good at it |
| 16:48.23 | Stanzilla | I like my beef late-medium to done |
| 16:48.25 | Stanzilla | raw is eew |
| 16:48.47 | Stanzilla | znf's looks perfect :D |
| 16:48.58 | Fisker | Raw is super ew |
| 16:49.03 | Stanzilla | ye |
| 16:49.34 | Stanzilla | what am I? a caveman? I can cook my meat :D |
| 16:50.08 | Megalon | i like it medium |
| 16:52.32 | wink | nobody likes medium |
| 16:53.12 | Megalon | just order yours well done, wink |
| 16:53.25 | Megalon | and leave us, who still have their tastebuds, alone :P |
| 16:53.52 | wink | nobody likes medium.com |
| 16:56.10 | znf | there we go |
| 16:56.17 | znf | I'm going to watch x-men |
| 16:56.17 | znf | .o/ |
| 16:57.09 | Yoshimo | Did Blizzard just add a random number at the end of a characters name or did they cut off some text before that? I found a few chars on other servers that look weird |
| 16:57.25 | znf | Yoshimo, it's flagged for rename |
| 16:58.10 | znf | or, rather, someone took your name :) |
| 16:59.08 | Yoshimo | would examplechâr become examplechâr1234 directly so if i remove the number it will be the original? |
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| 18:26.08 | znf | Yoshimo: If examplechar is still available, yes |
| 18:26.35 | Gnarfoz | Zeldo: are addon downloads (Client) supposed to be super slow right now? :O |
| 18:26.44 | Yoshimo | i don't remember the original names so i had to ask |
| 18:28.43 | Gnarfoz | Zeldo: so slow, in fact, that the client aborts the download :O ("Grail" is the addon in question, and it's trying to install version 078) |
| 18:29.53 | Yoshimo | Gnarfoz: you can git clone it these days from github |
| 18:30.09 | Gnarfoz | Yoshimo: uhm... I don't see how that is the same. |
| 18:33.03 | Yoshimo | well if the Download is slow you might be faster if you get it from Github, which of course doesn't solve the issue of the client being slow |
| 18:33.39 | Gnarfoz | it's also not the same result |
| 18:34.17 | Yoshimo | right now Github and Release are equal |
| 18:56.11 | znf | Not really |
| 18:56.19 | znf | Wow ace packages it |
| 18:57.08 | Stanzilla | packages znf |
| 18:57.29 | znf | Yay cinema |
| 18:57.46 | znf | Foreveralone.jpg |
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| 19:03.20 | znf | They are making a new ice age |
| 19:03.23 | znf | Wth |
| 19:13.23 | Gnarfoz | they have been making new Ice Ages since the first one |
| 19:19.06 | Megalon | btw znf there are also star wars sequels |
| 19:19.15 | Megalon | and a whole bunch of marvel movies |
| 19:21.08 | Stanzilla | Fisker: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-05%2Faqua-computer-kryom.2-universelle-kuehlung-fuer-heisse-m.2-ssds%2F&edit-text= |
| 19:38.01 | EthanCentaurai | Why is Magneto not wearing purple in X-Men Apocalypse? |
| 19:38.08 | EthanCentaurai | Because the days of fuchsia passed. |
| 19:38.18 | EthanCentaurai | runs. |
| 19:53.01 | Stanzilla | germans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MQHjboZcOo |
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| 20:14.24 | Zeldo | Gnarfoz: Is it still happening? |
| 20:14.28 | Zeldo | Sorry was afk |
| 20:15.48 | Gnarfoz | Zeldo: yeah, seems like it |
| 20:15.56 | Gnarfoz | also, search on beta.wowdb seems to be dead |
| 20:16.02 | Gnarfoz | (at least 30 minutes ago or so) |
| 20:18.06 | Zeldo | Is it only the one add on? |
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| 20:46.23 | Gnarfoz | Zeldo: dunno, I only have it available for update |
| 20:50.00 | Zeldo | Anyone else able to replicate that? I am getting instant downloads |
| 21:00.59 | Semlar | replicate what |
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| 21:13.26 | Stanzilla | dances with Kesava |
| 21:13.40 | Kesava | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.40 | Megalon | dances with dragons |
| 21:29.32 | Stanzilla | Megalon: hör uff die muddi |
| 21:31.08 | Megalon | u wot m8 |
| 21:31.26 | Stanzilla | Megalon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MQHjboZcOo |
| 21:33.31 | Megalon | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJe3cdM7f1c |
| 21:33.37 | Megalon | german songs are weird |
| 21:33.39 | Megalon | ;( |
| 21:35.01 | Stanzilla | mine is funny though |
| 21:35.55 | Megalon | as is mine |
| 21:35.58 | Megalon | 8) |
| 21:43.21 | Stanzilla | http://twitter.com/LibyaLiberty/status/733745867199545344/photo/1 |
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| 22:24.46 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: haz a more up to date WA for legion link? |
| 22:25.17 | Stanzilla | the one on weakauras.wtf is current minus today's merge |
| 22:25.45 | Stanzilla | http://weakauras.wtf/WeakAurasLegion.zip |
| 22:25.47 | nevcairiel | its not like weakauras.wtf offers a link on its start page |
| 22:25.52 | Stanzilla | yes sorry |
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| 22:26.08 | nevcairiel | thanks |
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| 22:31.16 | Gnarfoz | Zeldo: update: it works moderately fast now |
| 22:31.22 | Gnarfoz | at least fast enough so the client doesn't abort the update |
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| 23:39.36 | znf | Apocalypse was as good as I hoped |
| 23:42.41 | Gnarfoz | woah, actual network latency based lag on beta atm |
| 23:42.47 | Gnarfoz | 1500 ms :D |
| 23:44.45 | Ressy | crazy |
| 23:45.02 | Gnarfoz | probably lizard squad ddosing blizz :P |
| 23:45.21 | Gnarfoz | (which normally doesn't affect me, but beta servers are probably hosted under someone's desk there) |
| 23:45.50 | Gnarfoz | it's probably the one deaf employee, because they don't care about the noise |
| 23:46.01 | Gnarfoz | bwahaha |
| 23:46.04 | Gnarfoz | westfall graveyard |
| 23:46.16 | Gnarfoz | this is not where I wanted to go |
| 23:46.40 | Stanzilla | the current dmg bug situation is much more entertaining |
| 23:47.03 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/zeynakurwa/status/733762859486879744 |
| 23:47.04 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 23:48.16 | Gnarfoz | some kurwa quits, and in China, a sack of rice falls over |
| 23:48.34 | Gnarfoz | (so what's going on? "the dmg bug" is as vague as usual) |
| 23:48.45 | znf | 1mil damage auto-attacks |
| 23:48.49 | Stanzilla | scroll to the top of the thread |
| 23:48.54 | Stanzilla | oh wait |
| 23:48.55 | Stanzilla | https://twitter.com/WarcraftDevs/status/733762296065855489 |
| 23:48.55 | Stanzilla | there |
| 23:49.49 | znf | it's still "working"? :D |
| 23:49.50 | Gnarfoz | so the story starts with the fix? |
| 23:49.57 | Gnarfoz | that's still odd and doesn't explain what's going on |
| 23:50.07 | Stanzilla | there is not much else |
| 23:50.16 | Stanzilla | they tried to fix the bug and it didnt work |
| 23:50.19 | Stanzilla | so they restarted |
| 23:50.22 | Gnarfoz | what bug?! |
| 23:50.34 | znf | auto-attack |
| 23:50.35 | znf | damage |
| 23:50.37 | Stanzilla | ^ |
| 23:50.44 | znf | much damage, such deeps, very one-shot |
| 23:51.02 | Gnarfoz | now I'm totally up to date, thanks V E R B O S E B O Y S |
| 23:51.34 | Stanzilla | just because you are too lazy to read the top of the thread :< |
| 23:51.34 | Gnarfoz | so melee auto-attacks do more damage than intended? or what? and that started before they started fixing it? or when |
| 23:51.44 | Gnarfoz | the "TOP OF THE THREAD" is "hey we tried fixing it" |
| 23:51.57 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/61ilYFI.png |
| 23:51.58 | znf | that's all I figured |
| 23:52.04 | Stanzilla | Hey @holinka DMG-Bug in Arena and Battlegrounds on EU Servers since afternoon. getting oneshotted by every class. fix please. |
| 23:52.07 | Stanzilla | that is the bug |
| 23:52.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah, "dmg bug" |
| 23:52.15 | Gnarfoz | that's about as much as you said in the first place |
| 23:52.16 | Stanzilla | that is the bug :D |
| 23:52.16 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 23:52.18 | Stanzilla | insane domg |
| 23:52.19 | Stanzilla | dmg |
| 23:52.20 | Stanzilla | at random |
| 23:52.32 | Stanzilla | because that is all there is to know :E |
| 23:52.45 | Gnarfoz | so it's like fishing bug? |
| 23:52.54 | Stanzilla | dunno what that was |
| 23:54.03 | Gnarfoz | probably because I just made it up to point out how insanely vague "there's a bug where sometimes something does too much damage" is, but if there's not more info to be had... |
| 23:54.18 | Gnarfoz | I guess that's what the "realm restarts at 3:55 pm" notice was about? |
| 23:54.33 | Gnarfoz | all regions affected? or just EU? |
| 23:54.38 | Gnarfoz | considering there's kurwas involved |
| 23:54.58 | nevcairiel | kurwas exist everywhere |
| 23:55.13 | Gnarfoz | not this kind! :D |
| 23:55.22 | Gnarfoz | kurwa bug |
| 23:55.49 | nevcairiel | not sure why anyone should care if some whiny pvper cries on twitter and threatens to quit |
| 23:55.52 | nevcairiel | good ridance, i say |
| 23:56.23 | Stanzilla | they will roll back rating gains and achievements anyway |
| 23:56.24 | Gnarfoz | well, pvpers are a special breed. but apparently this fucked up everyone's MMRs |
| 23:56.51 | Gnarfoz | so removal of gains seems to be pretty much a given |
| 23:56.55 | nevcairiel | they should hand out bans to go with that |
| 23:56.56 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 23:57.06 | nevcairiel | teach those fucktards to not exploit in the first place |
| 23:57.09 | Gnarfoz | they never have in these situations and probably won't start now |
| 23:57.24 | Stanzilla | too hard to tell which was accidental |
| 23:57.25 | Stanzilla | I guess |
| 23:58.26 | Stanzilla | it mostly happened on ret paladins |
| 23:59.02 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 23:59.04 | Stanzilla | well Gnarfoz there goes your chance on mythic archimonde kill :D |
| 23:59.20 | nevcairiel | so can he go and solo things now? |
| 23:59.27 | Gnarfoz | I would have tried in the last 6 months if I cared hard about that |
| 23:59.32 | Stanzilla | I think it was fixed after the restarts |
| 23:59.45 | Gnarfoz | but... that kind of explains why I was outdpsing everyone in heroic daily dungeon earlier tonight, as the tank |
