IRC log for #wowace on 20160611

00:04.52*** join/#wowace Megalon (~wig0r@194-166-204-157.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
00:39.50znfbeta patch?
00:42.40Kesavaoh is that why i couldn't log in
00:43.55znfcan't log on anymore, either
00:44.15Kesavawell i hope they don't take away my moonwalking
00:44.34znfbah
00:44.38znfand I wanted to make an addon
00:44.51Megaloni'm on beta :o
00:45.03Kesavayeah. don't quit it.
00:45.18Megalonk :>
00:45.28znfffs
00:45.33znfoh come on, I wanted to make a LDB addon
00:47.38znfson of a cunt http://i.imgur.com/HDkmBbc.png
00:47.39znf:(
00:47.45znf~framexml
00:47.45purlBlizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ .
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00:56.28znfnevcairiel, would you happen to know the event that fires when you gain artifact power?
00:57.29Kesavaznf: ARTIFACT_XP_UPDATE (https://www.diffchecker.com/t3g9mktx)
00:57.43Kesavajust a guess though.
00:58.17znfyou're awesome
00:59.34znfno more wow for me tonight, I guess
01:04.25Kesava.... forked repositories are not searchable
01:04.28Kesavawhat the shit github
01:04.49Kesavai guess i'll resort to cloning and acking it
01:04.54Kesavaso much work
01:05.03znfMegalon, tell us if there's a server reboot!
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01:51.07Megalonhm
01:52.00Megalonnothing, still online
02:13.31znfwe can log on now
02:18.59TorhalWow, znf. You really want people to find your AddOn, don't you.
02:19.06TorhalI mean, with a name like "Artifact" and all...
02:19.12Torhalslaps znf around a bit with a large trout
02:20.31znfwell, it's artifact power....?
02:20.37znfhow exactly would you name it?
02:20.44znfLDB Artifact?
02:21.17znfactually I think that's better
02:23.54znfthere, happy?
02:24.12znfI have no idea how to change the slug
02:24.23TorhalI'll do that. Resubmit.
02:24.40Megalonwell a better name would be
02:24.46MegalonLDB You wouldn't believe what happened after this guy used up all his artifact power!
02:26.05znfuhm
02:26.11znfwhy did I just get redirect to sc2mapster
02:26.23Megalondid you upload a sc2map? :P
02:26.23TorhalMagic?
02:26.35TorhalBroker Megalon (Broken)
02:26.35Megalonthe site just knows how good your programming skills are
02:26.40Megalon( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
02:26.42znfTorhal is being mean
02:26.49TorhalNo I'm not!
02:26.53TorhalIt was magic!
02:26.58TorhalAKA: I have no fucking clue.
02:27.00znfhe's afraid I'm going to get all that seo traffic
02:27.05Torhalo.O
02:27.18MegalonMagic: Mean and gnarly IRC c...
02:27.48Megaloni gonna make a addon that adds facts to art pieces in game
02:27.51Megaloni'm gonna name it
02:27.54MegalonArtIFact
02:27.58Megalon8)
02:28.48TorhalThe Troll is strong in this one.
02:30.44Megaloni also have this idea for a blacksmithing addon that advertises the weapons you can make
02:30.48Megalonbut only the sharp ones
02:30.50Megalonand call it
02:30.52MegalonEdgy
02:31.46Megaloni'm always so fucking creative after those 7hr powernaps
02:35.16znfI'm going to make an addon called Haltor
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03:26.42pompyAI at their finest https://youtu.be/rqBr1_Km-2g ...
03:27.41Megaloncould be only co-op too
03:29.18pompyno thats sp
03:29.53Megalon;D
03:31.38pompyyoutube detected the video was shaky so i let it fix it and the 'fix' was making the ui move lol. weird
03:33.14quiescensgives pompy a cookie
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12:06.22Gnarfozhttps://media2.8ch.net/v/src/1465621697617.jpg
12:08.57quiescensgo to sleep gnarfoz
12:11.22Fiskerhttp://tapdownunder.com.au/2016/06/anz-meet-android-pay/
12:14.25quiescenso.o
12:31.52MegalonBattle.net Email Address: Invalid email address.
12:32.03Megaloni guess the validator does not like '+' in the email
12:35.48quiescenshow dare you attempt to make it harder to spam you
12:47.37GnarfozMegalon: my bnet address has a + in it
12:48.03Megalonwell, https://www.wowace.com/home/edit-battlenet-email/ won't let me change mine
12:49.35Gnarfozcurses
12:56.15Megaloncurses? so it's znf's fault? damn!
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12:56.20Megalondamn gypsies and their curses
13:22.41znfblame it on Torhal
13:27.46quiescens/blame torhal
13:28.13znftoc for 7.0 is 70000 ?
13:29.35nevcairielno, 72341
13:30.30quiescensthat seems a little bit arbitrary
13:30.52nevcairielit is, i jus tmade it up afterall
13:35.11Megalonlast i heard it was 0118 999 881 999 119 7253
13:39.02Megalon"use this <randomvehicle> to kill stuff" are the best worldquests :7
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15:03.48KalrothFisker: fået din 1080 endnu?!
15:04.08Fiskern
15:04.12Kalroth:(
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15:34.44Megalonwhat is DIN 1080 about?
15:35.48nevcairiel<PROTECTED>
15:38.48Megalonoh
15:41.35Kalrothyes, what nevcairiel said
15:42.04Kalrothno i wanted to know if fisker had installed his gtx 1080 yet
15:42.30Kalrothand he said 'n' which is short for 'naturligvis', which i don't believe i need to translate to you
15:42.39Fiskerstop Kalroth
15:42.52Megalonnaturligvis?
15:42.59Megalonsounds like valor morgulis
15:43.12Kalrothits almost the same in german
15:43.19Kalrothor are you swiss? i forget
15:43.22Megalonnaturligament?
15:43.41Megaloni am australian
15:43.48Gnarfozhe's fritzlian
15:44.10Megalon^
15:44.16KalrothMegalon: oi m8 watch out for roos
15:45.03KalrothMegalon: anyways, natur = natür and ligvis = lich, so that makes natürlich .. natürlich!
15:45.11Megalon;D
16:02.45znf~framexml
16:02.45purlBlizzard's UI for WoW. Extract it yourself by following intructions on http://wowpedia.org/Viewing_Blizzard%27s_interface_code ; or view it online at https://github.com/Gethe/wow-ui-source , or https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/ .
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16:51.56GnarfozMegalon: is this you http://spi2uk.itvnet.lv/upload2/articles/79/796355/images/Smiekligi-64-10.jpg
16:52.50Megalondamn, wish i was
17:10.14znfsomehow every time I want to write an addon, the beta is down
17:11.00GnarfozI think I've only written addons in text editors
17:11.20znfI still need to test it :P
17:11.25znfand I "code" by trial & error anyway
17:11.26Gnarfozthat's crazy talk
17:11.41znfI've also never written a LDB addon
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17:13.18Megalonhaha
17:13.21Megalonit's quite easy
17:14.02znfI know it is
17:14.07znfbut I want to use devpad in-game :P
17:15.35Megalonthen do so :P
17:16.14PredicateYou could at least get the LDB stuff up and running on live, then fill in the artifact-y bits when beta is back up...
17:16.16znfservers not working
17:16.32Gnarfozlive servers are not working?
17:16.37znfno, the beta!
17:16.43znfI'm too lazy to start live :D
17:16.51Megalonwell, they are working, but my char is gone :P
17:16.53znfhttp://i.imgur.com/wqetcPe.jpg
17:16.54Gnarfozlike she said, yo could start there
17:17.31Gnarfozjust display a dummy number, or something else you can easily control
17:17.40Gnarfozgold, health, something
17:19.11Megalonyou know that znf doesn't go the easy way
17:19.21znfthat's an idea
17:26.49quiescensmoo?
17:34.12znfwhat do you guys use to make .blp's?
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17:52.41Megaloni use tga because i'm too stupid to creat blp :D
17:53.15znfwas as easy as http://i.imgur.com/remNOeZ.png
17:58.21quiescensconverts znf to blp format
18:03.18nevcairielwhy bother with blps
18:06.10quiescens):
18:06.25quiescensseemed like the thing to do
18:07.27PredicateBLP is still required for certain things, like cursors.
18:18.07TorhalPredicate: And the frame portraits. I forget the function name, but it requires a BLP.
18:20.28PredicateThe round masked one, yeah
18:20.52TorhalSetPortraitToTexture I think
18:21.26Torhalpompy: Frenemy workaround for the BNet dupes is now live.
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19:52.45StanzillaTorhal: this dude approved spam as projects http://www.wowace.com/profiles/darkValorous/
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20:44.41Industrial"warning: your graphics card will not be supported in future versions of World of Warcraft, which will require a Shader Model 3 capable graphics card or better."
20:44.47IndustrialAnyone get this?
20:45.02IndustrialI have a MSI GT72S 6QE Dominator Pro laptop
20:45.28Industriali7-6700HQ CPU
20:45.39IndustrialNvidia GTX980M gfx card
20:45.55IndustrialI think theres like 1-2 newer cards out ..
20:46.17IndustrialWow is telling me my few months old Desktop Replacement gaming rig isn't good enough?
20:46.21Industrial>_>
20:46.39Industrial(which was made for HD live streaming etc)
20:46.58Industrialmy heart, le broken
20:47.17Industrialsooth me, Fisker
20:49.33Stanzilladrivers maybe?
20:50.01Kalrothdefinitely drivers
20:51.02KalrothSM3 was supported from geforce 6600 and up, back in 2005 .. :)
20:52.41IndustrialI have nvidia-304/352/361 installed but not sure how to use a specific version
20:52.54GnarfozoO
20:52.56Industrialah it says 361 in nvidia-settings
20:52.58Gnarfozyou can't use multiple at the same time
20:54.35Stanzillayeah update that shit, Industrial
20:54.39Stanzillayou are like 30 versions behind
20:54.53nevcairielits a laptop, probably confused by optimus shit, or he is running linux
20:55.28Gnarfozhis card either supports sm3 or not, drivers won't matter -- I bet nevcairiel is on the right track :p
20:56.25GnarfozI hate these people who leave the payload to chase down some random enemy
20:56.42Gnarfozand boom, we lose, because the last person on the payload gets killed
20:59.05StanzillaIndustrial: ulinuxcrap?
20:59.32nevcairielGnarfoz: its a problem in all fps games, people do nothing but kill, screw objectives
21:00.00nevcairieland OW doesnt even show a kill counter in game or something
21:00.10nevcairiel(ie. on a tab screen)
21:02.36Industrialnevcairiel: yes linux
21:02.41IndustrialStanzilla: ye
21:03.03IndustrialI use the thing for work primarily :P but it's nice for wow
21:03.05PredicateYeah, you should use DirectX instead of OpenGL in wine.
21:03.23Industrialhmm
21:04.41Stanzillait's like buying a racing car
21:04.44Stanzillawithout a drivers license
21:06.26PredicateHonestly, unless you have a dx11 card and want to use those effects, wine is equal or better than playing on windows...
21:06.51Gnarfozbetter? laughable
21:07.03PredicateI get better performance, yes.
21:07.18nevcairielbecause it lacks a bunch of effects, good job =p
21:07.21Gnarfoz^
21:07.33Gnarfozyou can lower quality on Windows, too :P
21:07.44PredicateComparing d3d9 windows vs. wine, I mean. I don't know anything about dx11 stuff.
21:07.56nevcairieleven then you lose some things
21:08.29PredicateYou lose access to some features, but since I use the same config.wtf on both OSes, my settings are the same.
21:08.56PredicateAnd it's true for many other games, not just WoW...there are some benchmarks listed on https://wiki.ixit.cz/d3d9 if you don't believe me.
21:09.26Gnarfozso you get better performance on an older platform
21:09.29nevcairieli dont believe benchmarks either
21:10.21PredicateWell, then, I'm not sure there's anything I can say to convince you. But I continue to play in wine even though I dual-boot and prefer windows for many other games.
21:10.31silentiumyou might get better performance because wine doesn't support all dx features, congrats to degraded graphics
21:11.03nevcairielthese benchmarks there are only relevant for a very small subset of hardware, too, those that have a gallium driver (ie. ati oss driver)
21:11.04PredicateThe graphical performance is only part of the picture, load times are better on ext4 than NTFS, and memory-intensive operations are much faster too.
21:11.34PredicateOf course, but since I have an ATI card that's all I can really comment on.
21:11.47silentiumand the features it does supported are implemented by mapping to opengl functions, so you could as well use the opengl interface from the game directly
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21:12.21Gnarfozext4 and ntfs... what. ssd
21:12.29Gnarfozshoudl be literally irrelevant
21:12.41PredicateWell, the gallium nine state tracker is meant to handle things more natively than wine's standard translation to opengl.
21:13.35PredicateThat said, even without it, WoW runs much better in directx mode than opengl, simply because wine is better at those translations than Blizzard's old, unmaintained code.
21:13.58PredicateGnarfoz: I don't have an SSD, just like I don't have dx11 :)
21:14.04Industrialhm, trying it with `wine Wow-64.exe -d3d` but I get a tiny tiny wow in the topleft corner of the screen. Maybe it IS a driver issue. I'll go check if there is a PPA for nvidia.
21:14.14Industrialand/or if I can just compile the thing
21:14.29Gnarfozso linux excels at using outdated hardware better
21:14.34Gnarfozgood to know
21:14.34nevcairielI don't think i even have a gpu without d3d11 in some box somewhere, nevermind running
21:15.21PredicateWell, next time you have a spare to get rid of, I'll happily take it. Until then, I'm going to keep making the best of the hardware I do have.
21:16.13nevcairielsome people would probably faint on the kind of hardware i "replace"
21:16.16nevcairielshrugs
21:16.31GnarfozI guess this also helps with the lack of actual content in WoW, you always have something to fix and optimize and tinker
21:16.42PredicateNo, that's what addons are for :D
21:17.29PredicateA big part of the reason I use linux in general is so that I can use software that runs well on my "outdated" hardware. Not all of us can afford to just throw more upgrades at the problem.
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21:22.51Gnarfozon the flipside, maybe you should just turn down details to get more performance :P
21:23.38PredicateSure, or I could just go back to playing text-based MUDs :P
21:25.22PredicateI'm able to maintain a playable framerate with moderate settings, and still keep the particle density and such high enough to be pretty. That's all I really need.
21:25.48PredicateWell, that and a working 64-bit client so I can spend more than an hour or two in Ashran without crashing. That'd be nice.
21:26.08nevcairielwhat kind of features require dx11 these days anyway?
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21:26.40Stanzillasunshafts afaik
21:26.42PredicateSunshafts and SSAO stuff, and the new water, at least.
21:26.54Stanzillaouw
21:26.58StanzillaI could not play with tha old water
21:26.59nevcairielno SSAO makes the game look so bland
21:27.01Stanzillathat was horrible
21:27.04nevcairieland that
21:27.33nevcairielalthough thats even worse than the really old water is the medium water setting
21:27.38nevcairielits like invisible water
21:28.07PredicateI use that one. I find it advantageous to see underwater sometimes :D
21:29.00nevcairielits so subtle that i have actually fallen into lakes before without realizing there was one
21:29.06nevcairielthought it was a valley
21:30.32PredicateYeah, I think I did that a couple times before we had flying...
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