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| 00:20.19 | Repo | wim-3: 03mysticalos * r513 (3 files in 2 directories): |
| 00:20.20 | Repo | Try most aggressive fix yet. if this doesnât work nothing will. Remove from change log until something actually works 100% |
| 00:24.10 | Stanzilla | xd |
| 00:24.50 | Ressy | lol |
| 00:33.18 | Repo | wim-3: 03mysticalos * r514 Modules/WhisperEngine.lua: |
| 00:33.18 | Repo | Replace ScrollToBottom with ScrollDown seems to make it more reliable. but still not 100% |
| 00:36.04 | Stanzilla | wow |
| 00:39.57 | Gnarfoz | pro coder |
| 00:48.14 | Repo | wim-3: 03mysticalos * r515 (2 files in 2 directories): |
| 00:48.14 | Repo | Replace ScrollToBottom with ScrollDown seems to make it more reliable. but still not 100% |
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| 01:12.32 | Torhal | The fact that he just can't understand Git should be a clue. |
| 01:30.35 | nebula | Torhal: tortiosegit commit & push button ftw |
| 01:33.07 | Torhal | Heh |
| 01:34.52 | znf | pft, nobody understands git anyway |
| 01:35.02 | znf | everyone has their cheat-sheet that copy/pastes from |
| 01:35.11 | nebula | git stash save znf |
| 01:35.14 | nebula | git stash drop |
| 01:35.20 | znf | git pop |
| 01:35.33 | znf | git i-broke-it-how-to-fix |
| 01:35.40 | znf | stash pop, I guess |
| 01:35.48 | nebula | you were too late, regardless |
| 01:35.55 | znf | git pull |
| 01:35.58 | znf | "conflict" |
| 01:36.11 | znf | git checkout file-conflicting |
| 01:36.13 | znf | git pull |
| 01:36.14 | znf | still conflicting |
| 01:36.15 | znf | ...?! |
| 01:36.35 | znf | cd .. && rm -rf working-dir && git clone https://... working-dir |
| 01:36.37 | znf | there, fixed |
| 01:38.23 | znf | Stanzilla, https://plus.google.com/+RonAmadeo/posts/EGjKs6rDZNU |
| 01:38.34 | znf | I haven't followed nexus development this year, did they put it on the back? |
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| 02:54.52 | Repo | Cooldowns: Update bars and icons to reflect the full cd duration |
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| 07:48.14 | Phixion | morning |
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| 09:18.13 | Gnarfoz | http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4202 wtb for whatever causes that stuff for me :p |
| 09:19.31 | nevcairiel | note that there is a newer whql driver from just today or last night that has that fix and more dpc fixes |
| 09:20.16 | nevcairiel | http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/105851 |
| 09:21.51 | Fisker | what dpc bug? |
| 09:31.10 | Kalroth | high dpc latency |
| 09:33.13 | Kalroth | https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/941579/geforce-1000-series/gtx-1080-high-dpc-latency-and-stuttering/1/ |
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| 10:05.26 | Repo | skada: 03zarnivoop 041.5-3 * r648 : Tagging as 1.5-3 |
| 10:12.03 | quiescens | moo? |
| 10:15.44 | Phixion | dies |
| 10:16.50 | Megalon | nooooooooxion |
| 10:22.38 | Gnarfoz | I have that without having a 1080, though :D |
| 10:22.57 | Gnarfoz | can't hurt to upgrade, anywayh |
| 10:24.16 | Phixion | :o |
| 10:24.42 | quiescens | resurrects Phixion |
| 10:24.58 | Torhal | upgrades quiescens to the latest version of Phixion. |
| 10:36.12 | quiescens | o.o |
| 10:36.20 | Repo | skada: 03zarnivoop * r649 (4 files in 3 directories): |
| 10:36.20 | Repo | new tweaks module, used for modifying CL events (new GBOM/Stormlash for now) |
| 10:42.07 | Gnarfoz | "You will need to reinstall Windows if you want to disable HPET. |
| 10:42.08 | Gnarfoz | " is this true :o |
| 10:42.31 | nevcairiel | why would you disable hpet anyway |
| 10:42.50 | nevcairiel | and no, you can disable it with bcdedit |
| 10:45.20 | Gnarfoz | because it's quite a lot slower to access than "TSC", apparently, but I have no idea if Sandy Bridge even has that |
| 10:45.32 | Gnarfoz | (and because why not, I've tried basically everything else at this point :P) |
| 10:45.33 | nevcairiel | windows is smart enough to use the best source |
| 10:45.58 | nevcairiel | and TSC exists on all x86 processors since early pentiums |
| 10:49.50 | Gnarfoz | more conditions apply, though https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dn553408(v=vs.85).aspx#ECD |
| 10:50.16 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, that would indicate Win10 should use TSC in my case, coreinfo says it has the appropriate features (most importantly, an "invariant TSC") |
| 10:50.29 | Gnarfoz | might of course be that the UEFI reports that wrongly... who knows |
| 10:51.27 | znf | Gnarfoz, so basically, you can't get A+ on SSL Labs if you want to support Windows XP, too (or Vista for that matter)? |
| 10:51.40 | Gnarfoz | fuck their ratings |
| 10:51.47 | nevcairiel | of course not, because you need to support lower quality things to support those OSes |
| 10:51.56 | Gnarfoz | learn to interpret the actual results and figure out what you want to achieve from there |
| 10:52.53 | znf | I don't even have those OS to test >_< |
| 10:53.00 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â well, as usual with such arcane topics, most forum posts on the matter are by (at best) vaguely informed people... (at worst, they're just repeating gibberish they have no clue about) |
| 10:53.18 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â that's not the point. figure out who/what you want to support and go from there. |
| 10:53.35 | znf | I just want copy/pasta |
| 10:53.44 | Gnarfoz | then you're in the wrong line of work |
| 10:53.53 | Gnarfoz | (or just a lazy bum, which we have previously established :P) |
| 10:54.02 | Gnarfoz | also, doesnt' A+ come pretty much automatically when you have HSTS headers? |
| 10:54.22 | Gnarfoz | and by "Windows XP" you mean "Internet Explorer <= 8 on Windows XP" |
| 10:54.23 | znf | I'm really not familiar with SSL ciphers and all the poodle, drowns and shit :-/ |
| 10:54.31 | Gnarfoz | neither Chrome nor Firefox have restrictions based on the OS |
| 10:54.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: it degrades you when you support tls1.0 or something |
| 10:54.43 | znf | IE8 + WinXP = means I have to support RC4 |
| 10:54.50 | Gnarfoz | does it? they change the scoring all the time ^^ |
| 10:55.12 | Gnarfoz | don't support IE on XP, if you can afford to. it's the least modern one of the bunch |
| 10:55.47 | znf | there's a lot of people stuck on computers at their business (mostly state institutions, actually) that are on WinXP :-/ |
| 10:55.56 | znf | which are part of the demographic |
| 10:56.00 | znf | that the website targets |
| 10:56.03 | znf | ...which is retarded |
| 10:56.20 | Gnarfoz | they are seriously outdated and vulnerable to lots of things. maybe they should stop using IE for visiting sites that also work in other browsers |
| 10:56.38 | Gnarfoz | being stuck on XP (which is terrible) doesn't mean you're stuck with IE |
| 10:56.53 | znf | someone reported that Chrome + Win Vista didn't work for them, either |
| 10:57.17 | Gnarfoz | Chrome uses Windows' cert management, that's all |
| 10:57.36 | Gnarfoz | maybe you have a crazy CA Windows XP has not been told about |
| 10:57.45 | Gnarfoz | OH WAIT, LET'S ENCRYPT SHITE. hahaha. |
| 10:57.55 | Gnarfoz | although they did have a cross-signature from someone else, so really it should work |
| 10:58.00 | znf | LE does XP now... |
| 10:58.01 | Gnarfoz | (also, you said Vista, not XP) |
| 10:58.24 | Gnarfoz | either disregard the report as being dumb as hell, or request more info |
| 10:58.50 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â I have A+ with TLS1.0 on my personal server |
| 10:59.04 | nevcairiel | maybe its a cypher then? |
| 10:59.06 | nevcairiel | one of those |
| 10:59.10 | Gnarfoz | I think it's HSTS |
| 10:59.26 | znf | 14% of the visitors are WinXP... |
| 10:59.27 | znf | dear god |
| 10:59.28 | znf | kill me |
| 10:59.46 | Gnarfoz | we have A on our internet-facing load balancer (work work), and the only two things we don't support are IE6 on XP and Java 6) |
| 11:00.07 | Gnarfoz | (and IE8 on XP doesn't get forward secrecy because it can't) |
| 11:01.14 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â might be a cipher, too, though. personal server doesn't talk to IE8/xp because it doesn't do any non-ephemeral ciphersuites (DHE/ECDHE) |
| 11:01.56 | Gnarfoz | still, the scores look very similar: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=hddf.eu&s=188.40.37.111&hideResults=on&latest vs. https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=gfk-e.com&hideResults=on |
| 11:01.57 | Stanzilla | znf: yes |
| 11:02.54 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla:Â no, as explained just now. his issue is IE, not Windows XP. (unless he asked you something else entirely earlier and you're replying to that) |
| 11:03.30 | znf | I did |
| 11:03.41 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: that was an answer to his other questiion about nexus |
| 11:03.44 | Gnarfoz | well fuck me! :D |
| 11:04.06 | Gnarfoz | good thing I at least considered the possibility, I'm getting more and more reasonable with advanced age |
| 11:04.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 11:04.14 | nebula | i was going to suggest https://cipherli.st/ as something to c/p, but it appear he broke his old shit toggle |
| 11:04.16 | Gnarfoz | Torhal:Â will that get worse? :> |
| 11:04.24 | Gnarfoz | cipherli.st is extremist garbage, TBH |
| 11:04.38 | Gnarfoz | not suitable for businesses wanting people to be able to use their sites ^^ |
| 11:04.44 | nebula | heh |
| 11:04.45 | Gnarfoz | at least it used to be |
| 11:05.24 | Gnarfoz | (they did have a "less extreme" set of cipher suites, but... that kind of defeats their purpose as a "here, use this" resource) |
| 11:06.55 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: ? |
| 11:07.26 | Gnarfoz | Torhal:Â see two lines above the highlight ^^ |
| 11:07.46 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: I see you and nebula talking. |
| 11:08.02 | Gnarfoz | your eyesight is still good, then! :D |
| 11:08.15 | Gnarfoz | I was making a half-silly reference to you being a wise old man |
| 11:08.41 | Gnarfoz | (compared to most of us whippersnappers) |
| 11:08.57 | Torhal | Sorry, I'm sick so I'm not processing things very well at the moment. |
| 11:09.21 | silentium | https://bettercrypto.org/ has nice copy&paste stuff, but apparently they lock out IE on XP nowadays as well |
| 11:10.24 | Gnarfoz | Torhal:Â what a coincidence you'd be sick when I was making jokes about age... :> get well soon, though. <3 |
| 11:22.15 | Megalon | Torhal not processing things very well? |
| 11:22.19 | Megalon | time for a coup! |
| 11:24.22 | Gnarfoz | I prefer coupons |
| 11:25.06 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â of course, the default settings are best, performance-wise https://tweakhound.com/2014/01/30/timer-tweaks-benchmarked/ (contrary to popular tinfoil belief, MS does know how to pick good defaults, no surprise for me there) |
| 11:25.21 | Gnarfoz | (but he explicitly says he doesn't have latency issues) |
| 11:41.17 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r1016 oRA3.lua: Handle dynamic module options |
| 11:41.28 | Repo | ora3: 03nebula169 * r1017 (3 files in 2 directories): Add Alerts module |
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| 12:01.08 | Repo | skada: 03zarnivoop * r650 modules/Tweaks.lua: fixed messed up Stormlash tweaks |
| 12:16.45 | Stanzilla | Fisker: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/duo-by-google/duo-by-google-1-0-130018012-rc1_rc29-release/ |
| 12:18.14 | Fisker | y old |
| 12:18.22 | Stanzilla | ok fuck you |
| 12:18.51 | Fisker | doesn't work though |
| 12:18.59 | Fisker | Get an issue trying to verify the number |
| 12:19.20 | nebula | what's that? google facetime? |
| 12:19.26 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 12:19.47 | nevcairiel | leveling extremely low level chars with invasions is fun |
| 12:19.52 | nevcairiel | did two invasions, 14->23 |
| 12:21.21 | Gnarfoz | so you're saying if I want to "boost" a farm char for Legion, now is the time? :p |
| 12:21.37 | Fisker | Does it work for you Stanzilla ? |
| 12:21.40 | Gnarfoz | also, why the hell do I suddenly have "Homegroup" icon on my desktop |
| 12:21.43 | nevcairiel | getting to the invasions is a bit annoying |
| 12:21.57 | nevcairiel | walked around the world for like an hour to get the appropriate flight points |
| 12:22.03 | Gnarfoz | (which isn't in the "desktop icons" list where you can toggle stuff like "my computer" and "trash") |
| 12:22.09 | Gnarfoz | also, I'm not in a homegroup. |
| 12:22.12 | nevcairiel | click, delete? |
| 12:22.13 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 12:22.18 | nevcairiel | never seen that |
| 12:22.22 | Gnarfoz | no such option there |
| 12:22.34 | nevcairiel | stop the home group services |
| 12:22.38 | znf | oh my god |
| 12:22.38 | nevcairiel | thats what i typically do |
| 12:22.45 | znf | I want to go to bucharest and punch our new manager in the face |
| 12:22.54 | nevcairiel | should totally do that |
| 12:22.56 | Gnarfoz | I fear that might set my network type back to "public", I think that's why I even turned them on in the first place |
| 12:23.07 | Megalon | road2bucharest |
| 12:23.15 | znf | I tell him I need some new nodes |
| 12:23.29 | znf | he's asking me what else could they run |
| 12:23.32 | znf | "VMs" |
| 12:23.35 | znf | "what else?" |
| 12:23.39 | znf | are you fucking retarded? |
| 12:23.39 | Gnarfoz | also bcdedit /set useplatformclock true does increase the QPF frequency to 14-odd MHz, and after a while, the QPC/GTC ratio does settle on 1.0 (it also did so without that, but the frequency was 1/4th or so) |
| 12:24.17 | Gnarfoz | can only check the Latency issue when at home, though, kind of need to listen to music for it :p |
| 12:26.52 | Gnarfoz | wtf CoreTemp |
| 12:27.10 | Gnarfoz | "Build your kingdom with Goodgame Empire. Start the game from the icon on your desktop." nope.jpg |
| 12:27.44 | nevcairiel | i got those too in 1607 |
| 12:27.48 | nevcairiel | fucking ads in the OS now |
| 12:29.19 | Fisker | nice |
| 12:29.36 | Gnarfoz | hum? that was from CoreTemp, not Windows |
| 12:29.53 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 12:30.05 | Gnarfoz | (although Windows does have Minecaft and that other one, which are just links to the store, though, I think) |
| 12:30.07 | nevcairiel | windows also installs ads for some facebook-y mobile games |
| 12:32.16 | Stanzilla | Candy Crush |
| 12:32.27 | znf | "can you give me a list of unused or offline servers" |
| 12:32.32 | znf | no, I can not give you a list of that |
| 12:33.30 | Gnarfoz | apparently, you need to click on "more downloads" and pick the stand-alone version... ugh. time to find an alternative, I guess |
| 12:35.26 | znf | oh, wow, he knows linux because in 2000 he also used linux! |
| 12:35.31 | znf | head-desks |
| 12:36.05 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/XcaJbJr.png :| |
| 12:36.27 | znf | I get the same thing, Gnarfoz |
| 12:36.28 | znf | same driver |
| 12:37.58 | Gnarfoz | hm? |
| 12:38.15 | Gnarfoz | do keep in mind my issue is most likely not related to the nvidia link I posted earlier |
| 12:38.15 | znf | well, same thing: ndis.sys |
| 12:38.18 | Gnarfoz | kk |
| 12:38.21 | Gnarfoz | terrible |
| 12:38.30 | Gnarfoz | basically only happens when I run qBittorrent |
| 12:38.57 | Gnarfoz | makes my music stutter; still uncertain if it also makes game graphics stutter, hard to tell :D |
| 12:39.49 | Gnarfoz | I can try turning HPET off, but I think I either already tried that or my UEFI doesn't have an option for it |
| 12:40.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: are you going to do info on tooltips about which character has which item, too or do you use a different addon for that? |
| 12:40.39 | nevcairiel | i use bagsync for that |
| 12:40.48 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 12:41.16 | Gnarfoz | more likely that it's the fucking Intel network drivers, though |
| 12:41.18 | nevcairiel | messing with tooltips is annoying |
| 12:41.35 | nevcairiel | didnt you switch to realtek at one point |
| 12:42.00 | Gnarfoz | (although it also happens when I use the Realtek card, as previously tested... probably not really possible to cleanly test, because I can't "remove" the Intel NIC, since it's on-board... I did try with a PCI card, though... etc) |
| 12:42.24 | Gnarfoz | all in all: so far, I haven't found a configuration that gets rid of it (or I would damn well be using it! :P) |
| 12:44.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel:Â so you have a full set of inventory data in BagBrother for Inventorian remote view and one in BagSync for tooltips? |
| 12:44.41 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/T9svmAL.png |
| 12:44.48 | Stanzilla | I have 0 problems though |
| 12:45.27 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: i suppose so |
| 12:47.26 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: at those latencies its very well possible to run into problems though |
| 12:47.46 | Stanzilla | like what? |
| 12:47.58 | nevcairiel | most obvious is audio cutting out during system load |
| 12:48.41 | nevcairiel | high system load* |
| 12:49.02 | Stanzilla | havent had that yet |
| 12:49.40 | Gnarfoz | yours is at 6000 us, though |
| 12:49.44 | Gnarfoz | that's just 6ms |
| 12:50.16 | Gnarfoz | after just 10 minutes with the system doing nothing but LatencyMon, qBT (and TeamViewer, I guess) mine had already encountered a spike of 317 ms |
| 12:50.26 | Gnarfoz | that's almost a third of a second and simply way too much |
| 12:51.01 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: your system is all green on that test? |
| 12:51.46 | nevcairiel | havent tested with the new drivers yet |
| 12:52.09 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: I had tons of programs running btw |
| 12:52.15 | Stanzilla | incl wow |
| 12:53.27 | Gnarfoz | I don't have the issue associated with high load anyway, it's basically "when qBT is running and music is playing" for me |
| 12:57.10 | nevcairiel | which is why it sounds like the network stack somehow |
| 13:04.11 | Gnarfoz | ndis.sys being at the front of the list should be a dead giveaway, but who knows how crap actually works internally :D |
| 13:05.50 | Gnarfoz | funny thing when people recommend switching to an Intel NIC from a RealTek one, though |
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| 13:11.13 | Gnarfoz | https://www.sysnative.com/forums/windows-10-a/16835-sound-issues-windows-10-dpc-intel-lan-drivers.html ... pretty exact description, although I've had the problem for years, even on win7, and also with a wide-range of Intel driver versions |
| 13:11.34 | nevcairiel | some people s aid a newer driver version was supposedly fixing this |
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| 13:20.12 | Gnarfoz | they've been saying that for many versions now :D |
| 13:22.29 | Gnarfoz | I could give this junk a try http://geizhals.de/tp-link-ue300-a1248063.html |
| 13:23.46 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: while playing wow the highest i'm getting is around 1400, which isnt perfect but still pretty good |
| 13:23.52 | nevcairiel | and those are from the nvidia driver |
| 13:24.37 | Stanzilla | sounds good |
| 13:29.18 | Stanzilla | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/591339-patch-hotfixes-august-16/ |
| 13:39.07 | Megalon | hotfixes Stanzilla to be less znf and more Fisker |
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| 14:07.00 | Funkeh` | sounds like more lag when I log in |
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| 14:27.54 | Stanzilla | zarnivoop: was the last commit the fix to 46x Skada\modules\Tweaks.lua:46: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) |
| 14:27.54 | Stanzilla | Skada\modules\Tweaks.lua:46: in function <Skada\modules\Tweaks.lua:9> |
| 14:27.54 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:27.54 | Stanzilla | Locals: |
| 14:33.48 | zarnivoop | Stanzilla: nope |
| 14:34.06 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 14:49.17 | Stanzilla | wb Repo |
| 14:51.45 | quiescens | pats repo |
| 14:58.54 | znf | did I ever show you the Bucharest train station live schedule/arrivals/departures? http://www.cfr.ro/webcam.php |
| 14:59.17 | Funkeh` | muh keys |
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| 15:27.30 | znf | ...my "manager" wanted me to explain docker to him |
| 15:27.32 | znf | *sigh* |
| 15:27.35 | Gnarfoz | znf:Â hey, I bet that's more reliable than MANY other systems they could have come up with ^^ |
| 15:28.06 | Megalon | *foz, you misspelled ANY |
| 15:31.03 | Stanzilla | znf: just tell him it's a plug and play VM? |
| 15:31.08 | Stanzilla | should be the easiest way to explain |
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| 15:43.14 | Fisker | docker is that new technology standard invented by Microsoft right znf ? |
| 15:43.19 | Megalon | just tell him to google picture search 'docking' |
| 15:43.22 | Megalon | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
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| 16:44.16 | Gnarfoz | get home, put music on speakers, takes just 3 minutes before the first brrrrrrrzzt sound effect thanks to ndis.sys |
| 16:44.36 | znf | oh, I don't have it that bad |
| 16:44.45 | znf | I don't actually notice it |
| 16:44.57 | Gnarfoz | then you have nothing to complain about? :P |
| 16:45.12 | Gnarfoz | also, my phone bumper just saved my phone \o/ first time for this one |
| 16:45.38 | Gnarfoz | (dropped onto tile floor from waist height, with a bit of sideways momentum ^^) |
| 16:46.05 | Stanzilla | nebula: zharya and alerac hype |
| 16:46.40 | Megalon | alterac? |
| 16:47.47 | Megalon | oh alrac that protoss guy |
| 16:56.39 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 16:56.43 | Stanzilla | with a k apperantly |
| 16:58.50 | Megalon | there is no k in protossguy |
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| 17:42.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: HandyNotes_Guild shows my one guildmate who has it as level 0 :( (same on his end for me, respectively) |
| 17:43.03 | nevcairiel | people still use that? |
| 17:43.10 | Gnarfoz | I saw no reason to get rid of it! :D |
| 17:43.23 | Gnarfoz | aww yiss, 2H mace |
| 17:43.23 | nevcairiel | i should give it some fixing then |
| 17:44.48 | Zeldo | Guys |
| 17:44.52 | Zeldo | Repo died and recovered himself |
| 17:44.58 | Zeldo | WOO |
| 18:02.43 | Stanzilla | wohoo |
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| 18:06.19 | Repo | handynotes_guild: 03nevcairiel * r63 GuildNotes.lua: Properly ambiguate guild roster information |
| 18:06.22 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: can you test if thats enough? dont think anyone in my guild has it |
| 18:10.27 | EthanCentaurai | Good evening. o/ |
| 18:16.25 | Stanzilla | mr EthanCentaurai |
| 18:16.35 | Stanzilla | I'm speaking in the name of bureau nebula |
| 18:16.40 | Stanzilla | your attention is required |
| 18:18.33 | EthanCentaurai | uh oh |
| 18:18.38 | EthanCentaurai | what have I broken this time |
| 18:26.44 | Stanzilla | EthanCentaurai: nothing he just wants you to give him parrot2 project if you are not doing that |
| 18:28.06 | EthanCentaurai | I can do that |
| 18:28.14 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yep, that seems to work |
| 18:28.15 | EthanCentaurai | or would he like me to retrieve macaw? |
| 18:32.44 | quiescens | moo |
| 18:33.32 | EthanCentaurai | pets quiescens. |
| 18:33.41 | quiescens | dies. |
| 18:37.56 | EthanCentaurai | :( |
| 18:38.42 | Stanzilla | EthanCentaurai: he only talked about p2, and he is always afk when you are here so I thought i'd relay :D |
| 18:38.57 | EthanCentaurai | heh :P |
| 18:39.16 | EthanCentaurai | ~seen nebula |
| 18:39.22 | purl | nebula is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 3h 58m 49s, last said: 'not like this'. |
| 18:40.24 | quiescens | stan sees all |
| 18:40.25 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 19:10.03 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: znf: nevcairiel: https://www.hddf.eu/audio/brrrrrrt.wav I procrastinated other things to bring you this magnificent recording of BRRRRRRT |
| 19:10.13 | Stanzilla | great |
| 19:10.30 | Gnarfoz | (2nd one is actually more of a hiccup/silence) |
| 19:11.54 | Repo | skada: 03zarnivoop * r651 modules/Tweaks.lua: fix for Stormlash, attempt 2 |
| 19:13.15 | quiescens | go to sleep gnarfoz |
| 19:13.37 | Gnarfoz | quiescens: yo mama! |
| 19:15.23 | quiescens | o.o |
| 19:25.29 | znf | poop zarni |
| 19:25.35 | znf | why do I keep seeing zarnipoop |
| 19:26.54 | Megalon | peecause you semen to see bodily fluids everywhere |
| 19:27.28 | Repo | libguildpositions-1-0: 03nevcairiel * r55 LibGuildPositions-1.0.toc: TOC for 7.0 |
| 19:28.22 | Repo | libguildpositions-1-0: 03nevcairiel 04WoW-7.0-release * r56 : Tagging as WoW-7.0-release |
| 19:28.50 | Repo | handynotes_guild: 03nevcairiel * r64 HandyNotes_Guild.toc: TOC for 7.0 |
| 19:29.02 | Repo | handynotes_guild: 03nevcairiel 041.9 * r65 : Tagging as 1.9 |
| 20:06.12 | Stanzilla | https://blog.twitch.tv/twitch-and-curse-8ae2b20acf91#.peasga70p |
| 20:14.57 | Funkeh` | the fuck |
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| 20:15.01 | Funkeh` | amazon now owns curse? |
| 20:15.04 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:15.19 | Funkeh` | everyone jump ship! |
| 20:15.28 | nevcairiel | can only get better then its now |
| 20:15.35 | Funkeh` | you'd think |
| 20:16.26 | EthanCentaurai | what |
| 20:17.43 | znf | yay, bigger amazon gift cards? |
| 20:18.20 | nevcairiel | Kesava: i have some odd 1-2px black line on the top of buff bars in knp, did you change something? |
| 20:19.53 | nevcairiel | Kesava: http://imgur.com/Yk7AsBU |
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| 20:29.09 | Zeldo | you guys... |
| 20:29.25 | EthanCentaurai | hi Zeldo |
| 20:29.37 | EthanCentaurai | permission to panic |
| 20:30.20 | Kaelten | no panic :) |
| 20:30.38 | Kaelten | but yes for people who are wondering |
| 20:30.39 | Kaelten | http://proxy.topixcdn.com/ipicimg/5IHM5OJP595V8S47-v1-fram640x414x640x414xxxx0 |
| 20:30.49 | Stanzilla | Kaelten: how long was this deal in the works |
| 20:31.06 | Gnarfoz | just a quick session in the new Curse app, done! |
| 20:31.26 | Kaelten | https://blog.twitch.tv/twitch-and-curse-8ae2b20acf91#.ljs7atim8 |
| 20:31.39 | Zeldo | Well done relinking Bryan |
| 20:32.12 | Zeldo | Stanzilla: We cannot comment more then what is available publicly |
| 20:32.15 | Gnarfoz | can has Amazon Prime = Curse Prime now? :P |
| 20:32.20 | Zeldo | lolol |
| 20:32.21 | Kaelten | lol |
| 20:32.24 | Stanzilla | Zeldo: :( |
| 20:32.41 | EthanCentaurai | Amazon Prime never gave Twitch Turbo, so I doubt that will happen :P |
| 20:33.03 | Gnarfoz | EthanCentaurai: boo! |
| 20:33.09 | EthanCentaurai | Gnarfoz: eek! |
| 20:33.11 | EthanCentaurai | dies. |
| 20:34.47 | Zeldo | Why are you sad facing me Stanzilla ? |
| 20:34.50 | EthanCentaurai | so what's going to happen direction wise? same as normal? |
| 20:35.15 | Stanzilla | nah, new wowace.com now launches 2022 instead of 2020 |
| 20:35.38 | nevcairiel | yeah need 2 extra years to add a new logo |
| 20:35.40 | EthanCentaurai | new wowace.com was launching? :P |
| 20:35.49 | Stanzilla | in 2020, yes |
| 20:36.00 | EthanCentaurai | it took a year just to get the new category icons, seems legit |
| 20:36.56 | Megalon | no EthanCentaurai, it's a year PER new category icon |
| 20:37.23 | EthanCentaurai | mspaint skills ain't what they used to be :( |
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| 20:39.20 | EthanCentaurai | jokes aside, will there be any changes? |
| 20:39.29 | nevcairiel | more red tape |
| 20:39.29 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 20:40.10 | EthanCentaurai | you mean purple tape |
| 20:40.12 | EthanCentaurai | Kappa |
| 20:40.36 | Gnarfoz | good to see Hubert is still at the helm, too |
| 20:40.52 | Funkeh` | at the helm, selling out |
| 20:40.56 | Funkeh` | :p |
| 20:42.43 | Gnarfoz | I should totally jump back into trade chat to watch the uninformed hordes talk shit about it |
| 20:42.56 | Stanzilla | no |
| 20:43.05 | Gnarfoz | yes! |
| 20:43.17 | Gnarfoz | also, wikipedia lists Bibi as "key people"! |
| 20:43.17 | Stanzilla | no |
| 20:43.24 | nevcairiel | its wikipedia |
| 20:43.37 | Gnarfoz | well, he's VP of content, it's not wrong :D |
| 20:43.39 | nevcairiel | i could make it say Stanzilla is the secret boss |
| 20:44.00 | EthanCentaurai | Fisker is CEO |
| 20:44.07 | EthanCentaurai | znf is head of sales |
| 20:44.41 | Gnarfoz | dear lord |
| 20:44.57 | nevcairiel | as long as you dont make him CTO |
| 20:45.00 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: link article? |
| 20:45.03 | nevcairiel | because that would be the end of everything |
| 20:45.30 | znf | y u want bankrupcy? |
| 20:46.01 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: to wikipedia? |
| 20:46.15 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: where it lists bibi as key people, yeah |
| 20:46.17 | Gnarfoz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse,_Inc. ?^^ |
| 20:46.21 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: do you get these black bars over the buffs as well? http://i.imgur.com/Yk7AsBU.png trying to find out if its something on my side maybe <.< |
| 20:46.25 | Funkeh` | I just wonder what the benefit of selling out is other than "more money" |
| 20:46.30 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: i use buff icons not bars |
| 20:46.33 | nevcairiel | hrm |
| 20:46.44 | Funkeh` | funnily enough, they couldn't describe any benefits |
| 20:46.46 | nevcairiel | maybe i should try that, not too happy with bars anyway |
| 20:46.50 | Stanzilla | ah in the sidebar, ok Gnarfoz |
| 20:47.03 | Gnarfoz | (I was restraining myself because I thought you were being fascetious... one company acquiring another is not 'selling out' automatically) |
| 20:47.03 | nevcairiel | are the icons another plugin i dont have? |
| 20:47.09 | Stanzilla | no, just disable bars |
| 20:47.11 | Stanzilla | then it will be icons |
| 20:47.14 | nevcairiel | i see |
| 20:47.22 | Funkeh` | no, not if the one is it trouble |
| 20:48.54 | Gnarfoz | I'll refrain from guessing how it came to be. But unless the up-til-now owners of Curse suddenly disappear, I can't call it a sell-out |
| 20:49.21 | Gnarfoz | we got ourselves acquired to extend our market reach, for example |
| 20:49.26 | Megalon | i'd sell-out for a few million currencybucks |
| 20:49.38 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: hey now, currency-bucko |
| 20:50.01 | Megalon | and maybe a nice chiefofdonothing position |
| 20:50.01 | Funkeh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.31 | Funkeh` | "we're selling out", "ok, cool, why?", "well, because" |
| 20:51.11 | Megalon | i think the 'why' for selling out is always $$$ |
| 20:51.16 | Megalon | else it wouldn't be called selling out |
| 20:51.36 | Megalon | or that's the implication when you call it sell-out :P |
| 20:51.58 | Gnarfoz | is "sell-out" not a negative term where you're from? I don't get the hate. |
| 20:52.27 | Funkeh` | no? selling out is selling something.. out? I think Megalon is implying it in a negative way |
| 20:52.37 | nevcairiel | sell-out is generally negative here |
| 20:52.47 | nevcairiel | abandoning morals for money |
| 20:53.03 | Funkeh` | it can be applied that way sure, "oh you big sellout" |
| 20:53.27 | Funkeh` | but Im not sure how you wouldn't apply that to a company, or what you'd apply instead of sell out |
| 20:53.44 | Funkeh` | it's not a merge anyway |
| 20:54.23 | Megalon | did curse do a pull request? |
| 20:54.39 | nevcairiel | i would just say they were acquired by amazon or something, i wouldnt use that term unless it feels like there is questionable things going on |
| 20:55.05 | Funkeh` | but to be acquired they need to accept |
| 20:55.09 | Funkeh` | it wasn't forceful |
| 20:55.25 | Funkeh` | it's their choice at the end, so, they sold out by making that choice |
| 20:56.48 | Gnarfoz | who's being betrayed? |
| 20:57.08 | Stanzilla | your mom |
| 20:57.10 | Gnarfoz | hm, I guess my notion of what sell out means is wrong, then |
| 20:57.14 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: rightfully so |
| 20:57.21 | Funkeh` | I don't know, maybe streamers that have curse deals? wouldn't know how that would affect their contracts |
| 20:57.28 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: its language, there is no right and wrong, its different everywhere |
| 20:57.58 | Gnarfoz | if anything, shouldn't they possibly be better off? :shrug: that's just speculation |
| 20:58.03 | nevcairiel | i have the same understanding of sell-out anyway =p |
| 20:58.12 | Funkeh` | you'd hope |
| 20:58.18 | Stanzilla | will be more interesting to see what google announces the next few days regardind youtube live streaming, there is something big coming there |
| 20:58.34 | Stanzilla | my guess is something like twitch subscribes |
| 20:59.11 | Funkeh` | the only thing I can assume is that twitch wwanted the users from curse voice |
| 20:59.12 | Gnarfoz | I've been wanting to reboot for hours, so I'll just say that "sell out" for me implies that someone (or a company) has always been doing X, and saying they're totally the best guys for X and totally invested in X... until suddenly they get acquired by Google and then they only care about Y |
| 20:59.17 | Funkeh` | everything else doesn't matter to them |
| 20:59.27 | Funkeh` | so it could easily be a negative thing for everyone else |
| 20:59.31 | Funkeh` | but yeah, speculation |
| 21:00.00 | Gnarfoz | and now... time to try another fucking DPC latency "fix" |
| 21:00.01 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: my guess is that they want to build a streaming client |
| 21:00.04 | Stanzilla | like OBS |
| 21:00.05 | Stanzilla | but their own |
| 21:00.07 | Stanzilla | into Curse |
| 21:00.20 | Funkeh` | sure that too |
| 21:00.30 | Gnarfoz | so what you're saying is, Blizzard should have bought them instead of partnering with FB for streaming? :P |
| 21:00.42 | Megalon | you mean like when facebook bought occulus *foz? :P |
| 21:00.48 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ah, was that nvidia driver from earlier the latest official release version? |
| 21:00.54 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:00.55 | Megalon | neverevergonnasellculus |
| 21:00.56 | Gnarfoz | Megalon: I have no recollection, your honor |
| 21:01.15 | Ressy | Do not want Twitch in CurseApp. |
| 21:01.21 | Ressy | Bad enough I have the server shit. |
| 21:01.22 | Ressy | and discover. |
| 21:01.26 | Ressy | do not want. |
| 21:01.28 | Gnarfoz | what is "the server shit" |
| 21:01.37 | Funkeh` | I don't think you'll have a choice there |
| 21:01.37 | Stanzilla | the community part |
| 21:01.40 | Ressy | Yeah |
| 21:01.45 | Ressy | Linking of twitch to Curse |
| 21:01.45 | Stanzilla | and yes you wont .D |
| 21:01.51 | Megalon | retarded social features everywhere |
| 21:01.59 | Gnarfoz | "OBS" in Curse seems like a really logical development |
| 21:02.21 | Gnarfoz | and considering you also need a platform to stream TO, picking the biggest one and teaming up with them also seems reasonable, instead of rolling your own |
| 21:02.22 | Funkeh` | I don't really care how they change curse client |
| 21:02.28 | Stanzilla | yup |
| 21:02.31 | Funkeh` | what I care about is that that's probably all they care about |
| 21:02.33 | Gnarfoz | (inb4 "rolling your own voip client that looks identical to discord") |
| 21:02.37 | nevcairiel | likely it'll suck though, proper streaming clients is hard |
| 21:02.47 | Gnarfoz | is it? |
| 21:03.14 | Gnarfoz | is it way more complicated than "grab d3d surface, encode, send blocks to that intarwebs"? |
| 21:03.17 | nevcairiel | dont you remember how long you fiddled with settings to get decently looking footage going? do you think something like curse would even expose fine-grained settings? |
| 21:03.20 | Funkeh` | then you could come up with conspiracies that it's the only reason they made a discord clone, to try and sell out to someone using a buyable product :P |
| 21:03.24 | Gnarfoz | (it probably is, since that's not the source code for OBS there!) |
| 21:03.29 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: basics are easy, good quality is hard |
| 21:03.44 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: they do claim that Curse Voice/App/whatever was in development before Discord showed up, though |
| 21:03.52 | Gnarfoz | (well, Curse Voice certainly was) |
| 21:04.04 | Gnarfoz | also I have no idea who actually runs Discord. who does? |
| 21:04.18 | Funkeh` | someone who denied selling out to twitch |
| 21:04.20 | Funkeh` | :D:D |
| 21:04.46 | Gnarfoz | (selling out before you actually have principles or users to betray - that's the real trick) |
| 21:04.58 | Funkeh` | pretty smart |
| 21:05.18 | Gnarfoz | wanna buy some death sti... voip apps? |
| 21:05.23 | Funkeh` | let's hope twitch don't pull a microsoft-nokia |
| 21:05.38 | Funkeh` | thanks for the app, now fuck off |
| 21:05.55 | Megalon | you think twitch cares about addons? ;o |
| 21:06.10 | Gnarfoz | if nothing else is announced, I usually expect a "nothing changes" scenario. But then, I'm not a "the sky is falling" kind of guy |
| 21:06.12 | Megalon | unless you can cheer on addons of course! |
| 21:06.34 | Ketho | where is my Twitch partnership |
| 21:06.38 | EthanCentaurai | DBM requires Twitch Sub to download Kappa |
| 21:06.46 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oO usually there's 10 versions to pick from; gtx 780, win10 1607 64 gives exactly one result :D) |
| 21:06.46 | EthanCentaurai | no wait |
| 21:06.50 | EthanCentaurai | Blizz won't allow that |
| 21:07.07 | Gnarfoz | dbm can go to hell |
| 21:07.07 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: first driver for 1607 |
| 21:07.07 | Gnarfoz | (as previously established) |
| 21:07.19 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: clearly ^^ did anything about the driver model change, though? probably not |
| 21:07.24 | Gnarfoz | just certification |
| 21:07.32 | nevcairiel | they did add wddm 2.1 in that driver |
| 21:08.16 | Gnarfoz | is that new to 1607? |
| 21:08.21 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:08.27 | Gnarfoz | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sell%20out curious, it's all about musicians/artists there |
| 21:08.38 | Stanzilla | they also finally deprecated XP |
| 21:08.47 | Gnarfoz | but what about the Titan XP! |
| 21:08.51 | Megalon | because when you go from underground to mainstream |
| 21:08.54 | Megalon | you sell-out :P |
| 21:09.07 | nevcairiel | deprecated kinda means it still works but is discouraged, they flat out killed XP in those drivers |
| 21:13.57 | pompy | http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/07/29/487832991/south-korea-is-contending-with-a-gamergate-of-its-own-over-a-t-shirt |
| 21:17.51 | Repo | ice-hud: 03Parnic 041.10.5 * 6b0888f /: [new tag] Tagging as 1.10.5 |
| 21:24.40 | Funkeh` | [girls do not need a prince] [oh princes of the government please save us from everything we deem offensive] |
| 21:27.59 | Funkeh` | it's funny how the koreans have the balls to stand up to SJW bullshit yet westerners don't |
| 21:28.02 | Gnarfoz | equal rights! unless it's inconvenient |
| 21:28.10 | Funkeh` | time to move to korea |
| 21:29.54 | Gnarfoz | so they stood up to something? I didn't get far enough into the article to get to that pa rt |
| 21:30.11 | Funkeh` | they fired her ass |
| 21:30.15 | Gnarfoz | it read like any other such article and my "omg this shit again" sense started to tingle |
| 21:31.10 | Gnarfoz | hm, that was still in the bit I read... I quit when they started explaining something about MERS and some book by a Norwegian |
| 21:31.13 | Funkeh` | "Toward the end of 2015, the group split into factions, spawning "at least 100 new organizations," according to Kim Nayoung, a law student at the University of Michigan who's part of Korea's online feminist movements." |
| 21:31.18 | Funkeh` | how fucking shocking |
| 21:31.25 | Funkeh` | marxism at its finest |
| 21:36.10 | Megalon | are we talking about a korean girl group? |
| 21:36.34 | Funkeh` | go back to sleep |
| 21:38.26 | Gnarfoz | Marxism? oO I must have been skipping school that day. |
| 21:39.05 | Gnarfoz | woah, just 147 GiB left... closing in on 100% cloud backup :D |
| 21:39.27 | Megalon | you are backing up the cloud??? |
| 21:39.29 | Megalon | holy shit |
| 21:39.37 | Gnarfoz | yep, need it to make it rain |
| 21:39.58 | Gnarfoz | (although, the limit is just now set at <25 GiB per file, next step is 'no limit'... should not be tooo much more on top) |
| 21:40.07 | Funkeh` | marxists can generally never agree on anything other than the fact that something needs blamed or hated on |
| 21:40.23 | Megalon | i can't agree with that Funkeh` |
| 21:40.28 | Megalon | and i hate you for saying that! |
| 21:41.03 | Funkeh` | all the SJW nonsense has deep roots in it, they love to blame anything and everything for all of their problems |
| 21:41.29 | Gnarfoz | is that a property of marxism? sounds just like idiots to me. :D |
| 21:41.59 | Funkeh` | marxists tend to be idiots |
| 21:42.01 | znf | oh, my laptop is not using DXVA to decode crap |
| 21:42.10 | znf | or, rather, mpc-hc is not using |
| 21:47.51 | znf | LAV Video Decoder says DXVA2 is supported |
| 21:48.07 | nevcairiel | it always says that, thats just an API check, not a hardware check |
| 21:49.30 | znf | pretty sure Intel HD 3000 does DXVA, doesn't it? |
| 21:49.46 | nevcairiel | yes and no, its somewhat limited |
| 21:49.52 | nevcairiel | might depend on the video then |
| 21:49.54 | *** join/#wowace srge (~sp@unaffiliated/srge) |
| 21:52.19 | znf | it's just h264 high l5.0 |
| 21:53.44 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: do you use bagsync's other features besides the tooltip integration? it seems to aim for being some kind of searchable database |
| 21:54.16 | nevcairiel | i use the slash searching sometimes yes |
| 21:54.23 | Gnarfoz | also... if you're using BagSync anyway, why'd you use BagBrother for Inventorian's remote view capability? doesn't BagSync have that data, too? |
| 21:54.24 | nevcairiel | znf: those older intels are only l4.1 max |
| 21:54.29 | znf | oh |
| 21:54.40 | znf | ok, let's run this with the radeon card... |
| 21:54.44 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: bagsync only has the raw content, but not some crucial things like the bag size nd whatnot |
| 21:54.56 | Gnarfoz | I see |
| 21:55.35 | Gnarfoz | (which all of course culminates in: why didn't you just roll your own :D - not that I'm complaining... until jaliborc takes over BagSync and everything becomes terrible again) |
| 21:56.27 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/Ao0Nb1S.png |
| 21:56.29 | znf | motherfucker... |
| 21:56.37 | nevcairiel | all the tooltip messes are annyoing, hence i rather leave that in bagsync |
| 21:56.49 | nevcairiel | and bagbrother+itemcache actually works ok |
| 21:57.30 | Gnarfoz | itemcache being your own thing? |
| 21:57.50 | nevcairiel | nah its the library from bagnon that supposibly abstracts various caching bagends |
| 21:57.59 | Gnarfoz | bagends. lol |
| 21:58.00 | nevcairiel | but bagbrother is the only available one as far as i can see |
| 21:58.08 | nevcairiel | backends o.o |
| 21:58.11 | nevcairiel | how did that happen |
| 21:58.13 | Gnarfoz | bagens also fits! :D |
| 21:58.17 | Gnarfoz | omg typos |
| 21:58.46 | nevcairiel | anyway bagbrother is literally just a data table and an event handler to udpate it |
| 21:58.53 | nevcairiel | llibitemcache is the api to query it |
| 21:58.54 | Gnarfoz | so not much to fuck up? :> |
| 21:59.08 | nevcairiel | probably not |
| 21:59.13 | Fisker | I miss Curse |
| 21:59.22 | Zeldo | I miss Fisker |
| 21:59.25 | nevcairiel | i could always fork it or something when it feels like it dies |
| 21:59.44 | Fisker | That's really hot Zeldo |
| 22:00.16 | nevcairiel | i'm already rolling a fork of the itemcache library because i had to fix one problem in it =p |
| 22:00.37 | nevcairiel | wonder if jaliborc will ever react to my pull request |
| 22:02.03 | Stanzilla | 2020 |
| 22:02.06 | Zeldo | Youâre really hot Fisker |
| 22:02.21 | Megalon | you both got a fever? |
| 22:03.13 | Fisker | Oh Zeldo you know how to make a heart melt |
| 22:03.22 | znf | piece of shit laptop |
| 22:03.26 | Megalon | wtf Zeldo, why you kill Fisker |
| 22:03.33 | znf | I forced it to use the radeon card |
| 22:03.39 | znf | still using the intel one |
| 22:04.55 | Zeldo | Shit sorry |
| 22:04.58 | Zeldo | Iâll leave ;( |
| 22:05.58 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: hm, my bank is showing "(Cached)" even though I'm talking to the NPC |
| 22:06.02 | znf | nevcairiel: oh, it worked |
| 22:06.20 | Gnarfoz | also, I had to close and open it a few times before (for example) the sort button wasn't greyed out |
| 22:06.33 | nevcairiel | which versions are you using? |
| 22:06.43 | znf | after switching from the internal subtitle decoder in MPC-HC, I noticed that when I opened the LAV Video decoder properties, the hardware accel was set to none |
| 22:06.57 | znf | I switched it to dxva2, mpc-hc says it's using dxva now |
| 22:07.14 | Parnic | dangit, twitch? bah |
| 22:07.53 | znf | so Torhal now works for twitch? |
| 22:07.58 | znf | not sure how to feel about that |
| 22:08.04 | Parnic | nah, amazon. |
| 22:09.04 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: unless Repo died in the mean time, the latest alpha |
| 22:09.11 | Gnarfoz | Parnic: nah, Twitch. |
| 22:09.27 | Parnic | Gnarfoz: amazon still owns twitch, doesn't it? |
| 22:09.35 | Gnarfoz | yes, but Amazon didn't buy Curse, Twitch did |
| 22:09.55 | Parnic | well, yeah....but........ok |
| 22:10.10 | Gnarfoz | (none of them is now an Amazon employee OR a Twitch employee by some magic) |
| 22:10.20 | Megalon | everyone is controlled by the lizardpeople anyway |
| 22:10.23 | Megalon | WAKE UP SHEEPLE!! |
| 22:10.31 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: well since you use the curse app and its hiccups, can you verify the number? =p |
| 22:10.33 | Parnic | Gnarfoz is too literal and hates jokes |
| 22:10.54 | Parnic | just because my boss's boss isn't my direct superior doesn't mean i don't work for him too |
| 22:10.55 | znf | Stanzilla: is there an extension for chrome that allows you to manually put a tab into hybernate mode? |
| 22:10.56 | Gnarfoz | Parnic: the Internet is 99% people who say such things being serious. so... |
| 22:11.04 | znf | (or whatever that feature is called) |
| 22:11.07 | Stanzilla | znf: the x button |
| 22:11.15 | znf | ... |
| 22:11.24 | Gnarfoz | Parnic: you're (most likely) not an employee of your team lead, or your boss, but your company. |
| 22:11.56 | Gnarfoz | so, no, I'm not an employee of GfK SE, just because GfK SE owns GfK Entertainment GmbH, which I work for |
| 22:12.00 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: also did you change to another chars bank at some point in that session? |
| 22:12.24 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I'm just logging through my chars to initialize bagsync... I might have used the deposit tradeskill items button |
| 22:12.24 | Megalon | GfK? GnarforzK? |
| 22:12.52 | Gnarfoz | ## X-Curse-Packaged-Version: 7.0.3.2-11-gfdb430b |
| 22:13.14 | nevcairiel | i dont suppose there is anything crazy about the char it happened on, like a crazy ass name or something ? :D |
| 22:15.17 | Gnarfoz | I only have [A-Za-z] character names |
| 22:15.31 | nevcairiel | did you open it remotely first, or just walked up to the guy and it auto-opened? |
| 22:15.32 | Gnarfoz | :shrug: I'll say something if I see it happen again |
| 22:15.46 | Gnarfoz | it was the garrison npc |
| 22:15.52 | Gnarfoz | maybe she wandered off while I had it open? |
| 22:16.15 | nevcairiel | if it was auto-opened from talking to the npc, it should also auot-close again |
| 22:16.25 | nevcairiel | it only stays open if you manually open it |
| 22:16.34 | Repo | tradeskill-info: 03EthanCentaurai 07master * v2.3.11-4-gd09631c Data.lua: [+1 commit] Ran vvv444's new and improved data miner. Fixes tickets 119 and 120. |
| 22:23.01 | *** join/#wowace Ressy (Ressy@192-0-172-185.cpe.teksavvy.com) |
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| 22:28.53 | Gnarfoz | turning HPET off in UEFI made it quite a bit worse, I think |
| 22:29.42 | Gnarfoz | had an actual multi-second stutter just now :p |
| 22:29.49 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:29.57 | nevcairiel | i definitely cant make the bank bug out |
| 22:30.08 | nevcairiel | all combinations of actions seem fine |
| 22:30.16 | Gnarfoz | wonder if I should try turning on that useplatformclock thing with HPET turned off... doesn't seem particularly logical that that would be better |
| 22:30.36 | Gnarfoz | but hey, this is not logic, this is voodoo |
| 22:30.50 | nevcairiel | voodoo is just logic you dont understand yet |
| 22:32.03 | Repo | inventorian: 03Nevcairiel 07master * 7.0.3.2-12-g1322669 Frame.lua: [+1 commit] Properly set the cached attribute when switching between characters |
| 22:32.07 | nevcairiel | (unrelated change, i think) |
| 22:32.36 | Repo | angry-assignments: 03Ermads 04v1.8.0 * 3f3fbef /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.8.0 |
| 22:32.43 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I know... deep magic, voodoo, etc... |
| 22:33.08 | Gnarfoz | and of course: magic/more magic ;) |
| 22:35.04 | Fisker | Nooo don't leave me Zeldo |
| 22:35.09 | Gnarfoz | hm, I should totally use FozMod inject the 2 things in SharedMedia that I use and uninstall this 30 MiB monster addon (which is 75% one asian font) |
| 22:35.23 | nevcairiel | do it |
| 22:35.40 | nevcairiel | SM is designed to be fed things afterall |
| 22:35.44 | Gnarfoz | I'd have to look into how that works (probably not particularly hard, considering it's set up for people to do just that) |
| 22:35.53 | Gnarfoz | WORDS, TOO MANY WORDS |
| 22:35.56 | Gnarfoz | I need to type faster |
| 22:35.57 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:36.00 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 22:36.19 | Gnarfoz | using 3 different keyboard layouts has slowed me down and increased my error rate quite a bit |
| 22:37.05 | Gnarfoz | (also I need to program a print screen key into my planck's layout, I find myself opening the on-screen keyboard just to take screenshots way too often. :P) |
| 22:37.53 | Gnarfoz | speaking of addons I could get rid of... "Hear Kitty" is a nice idea, but the sounds lag behind the actual situation quite a bit at times, I don't think I'll ever fully get used to it |
| 22:38.36 | Repo | angry-assignments: 03Ermads 04v1.8.1 * b4ccbe3 /: [new tag] Tagging as v1.8.1 |
| 22:38.58 | Repo | angry-assignments: 03Ermads 07master * v1.8.0 (5 files in 1 directory): [+7 commits] (3 truncated) |
| 22:38.59 | Repo | a49b2e1: Added {demonhunter} icon |
| 22:38.59 | Repo | c4c14e2: Updated changelog |
| 22:38.59 | Repo | b0f48ba: Initial version of categories complete |
| 22:38.59 | Repo | 8142ba6: Initial work on categories for pages |
| 22:39.02 | Zeldo | Fisker: My love will always be in your heart |
| 22:39.20 | Repo | angry-assignments: 03Ermads 07master * v1.8.1 Core.lua: [+1 commit] Small bug fix |
| 22:39.31 | Fisker | Then why does it hurt? |
| 22:40.25 | Zeldo | Love hurts |
| 22:40.36 | Zeldo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ7Myy7Hpxw |
| 22:41.31 | Gnarfoz | and AuraFrames... I need to look at that |
| 22:41.40 | Gnarfoz | it's horribul! |
| 22:42.04 | Gnarfoz | (but wtb every button-ish thing being Masque-themeable! Masque_Caith all the things!) |
| 22:44.20 | Gnarfoz | funny, in this configuration, LatencyMon doesn't report issues, but the sound thing is clearly worse than ever |
| 22:44.38 | nevcairiel | might be a different buffering issue then |
| 22:44.50 | nevcairiel | some usb dacs might need a better clock coming from the pc |
| 22:45.38 | Gnarfoz | I have this issue with the on-board sound as well |
| 22:45.55 | Gnarfoz | or I should say, this USB DAC at home is a very recent change to my setup |
| 22:45.55 | nevcairiel | also in this conifg? |
| 22:46.14 | Gnarfoz | no, not in this config, although the recordings earlier were made over the on-board sound |
| 22:46.26 | Gnarfoz | I could just switch to speakers for a bit (good idea at this hour) |
| 22:46.49 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 22:48.01 | Gnarfoz | currently measuring "kernel timer latency", that shouldn't affect LatencyMon's other output, I think |
| 22:50.15 | Gnarfoz | BRRRZZT |
| 22:50.17 | Gnarfoz | it's still there. |
| 22:50.46 | Gnarfoz | weirdly enough, LatencyMon doesn't show any execution time > 1 ms for anything |
| 22:50.58 | Gnarfoz | maybe setting it to measure "kernel latency" does affect the other stuff. |
| 22:52.41 | Gnarfoz | highest ISR: dxgkrnl.sys, 200 us; highest DPC: nvlddmkm.sys 792 us |
| 22:53.52 | nevcairiel | at some point i'm beginning to think its just something more fundamental, like the motherboard, and not the the NIC as such |
| 22:53.53 | Repo | handynotes_legiontreasures: 03Kemayo 07master * v2-2-g97f471d Treasure.lua: [+1 commit] Proper floor numbers for DH starter vault |
| 22:56.37 | Gnarfoz | entirely possible |
| 22:57.15 | Gnarfoz | as good an excuse to spend 1000⬠on new stuff as any! |
| 22:57.31 | Gnarfoz | if I order now, it might be finished for launch ;) |
| 22:57.42 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 22:57.48 | nevcairiel | two weeks is plenty to rebuild :p |
| 22:58.02 | Gnarfoz | at least with German delivery times |
| 22:58.04 | nevcairiel | do you actually notice ingame, or just music cutting out? |
| 22:58.14 | Gnarfoz | (and this stuff here would go into my old CM stacker monster, to finally separate out my storage) |
| 22:58.20 | nevcairiel | (of course when playing, you might turn off torrents) |
| 22:58.33 | Gnarfoz | I turn them off because I listen to music while playing and it's annoying :D |
| 22:58.48 | nevcairiel | and when you seperate storage, you might run the torrent on the storage box, and the problem solves itself |
| 22:58.49 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:59.13 | Gnarfoz | and... the sudden noise thing disorients/distracts me enough to not be able to really say if it actually causes a visual/input stutter as well. I'm inclined to say "I think so, but maybe not" :P |
| 22:59.31 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: also true, heh, I didn't even think of that particular aspect of it |
| 23:00.08 | nevcairiel | its of course not a real "fix" |
| 23:00.20 | znf | Stanzilla: did Google implement something similar to icloud locking in Android? |
| 23:00.24 | Gnarfoz | nope, just not listening to audio from the server ^^ |
| 23:00.38 | Stanzilla | znf: sort of yeah |
| 23:00.46 | znf | I've never seen that |
| 23:00.59 | znf | Any clues of what's it called? |
| 23:01.10 | Stanzilla | android device manager is the app |
| 23:01.10 | Gnarfoz | android device manager? |
| 23:01.19 | Gnarfoz | https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6160500?hl=en it has had a lock feature for a long time |
| 23:01.38 | Stanzilla | https://www.google.de/android/devicemanager |
| 23:01.49 | znf | this seems to appear after you factory reset it |
| 23:02.10 | Gnarfoz | "this"? |
| 23:02.13 | znf | I know about the old functionality of device manager, but apparently now they ask for some sort of login with an old account if you factory reset |
| 23:02.18 | Gnarfoz | you might be thinking of "FRP |
| 23:02.24 | Gnarfoz | factory reset protection |
| 23:02.34 | znf | since when is that a thing? |
| 23:02.40 | Gnarfoz | 6.0 |
| 23:04.10 | Torhal | Zeldo: Is this you? https://i.imgur.com/YokTd44.jpg |
| 23:04.23 | Gnarfoz | https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6172890?hl=en |
| 23:04.47 | Megalon | meirl |
| 23:05.12 | znf | Gnarfoz: seems it's 5.1 |
| 23:06.23 | znf | any ideas if this is implemented server-side? else it would be futile if it's stored on the actual device |
| 23:06.37 | Gnarfoz | http://www.androidauthority.com/lollipops-factory-reset-protection-539432/ right, big-ass lollipop there |
| 23:07.01 | Gnarfoz | probably undocumented ^^ |
| 23:09.14 | znf | cool |
| 23:09.16 | znf | glad they added it |
| 23:09.38 | znf | I hope they block it completely from the play store if you somehow manage to bypass it |
| 23:12.06 | Gnarfoz | if you bypass it, you can add the account of your choice, how or why would they block it |
| 23:12.33 | Gnarfoz | (and yes, "FRP bypass" and relatd terms are quite popular... sadly, lots of stolen phones) |
| 23:13.24 | znf | icloud blocks the device completely though |
| 23:13.35 | znf | even if you manage to actually bypass the initial activation/set-up |
| 23:13.41 | znf | it's pretty much a brick |
| 23:14.06 | znf | (ie: can't make calls, can't install apps etc.) |
| 23:17.01 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (~wig0r@77.119.131.201.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 23:20.07 | Megalon | mhm |
| 23:21.06 | Gnarfoz | if you bypass something, by definition, you've defeated it, no? |
| 23:21.55 | Megalon | no, you passed it |
| 23:21.58 | Megalon | bypass means you avoided something that was not meant to be :P |
| 23:22.12 | Gnarfoz | I avoided something that was meant to be, you mean |
| 23:22.24 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. thanks for agreeing) |
| 23:22.27 | Megalon | that was not meant to be avoided |
| 23:22.45 | Gnarfoz | exactly. if I bypass Apple's protection, how can the protection still be in place |
| 23:22.47 | Gnarfoz | ;P |
| 23:23.08 | Megalon | if you cum so hard that the condom bursts and you impregnant your girl then you defeated the condom |
| 23:23.21 | Megalon | if you were to retarded to put it on how it should be then you bypassed it |
| 23:23.28 | Gnarfoz | ... |
| 23:23.29 | znf | Gnarfoz: "bypass the initial activation/set-up" |
| 23:23.30 | Megalon | get it? |
| 23:23.35 | Gnarfoz | and defeated its purpose at the same time |
| 23:23.38 | znf | ever activated an iphone? :P |
| 23:23.40 | Gnarfoz | no. |
| 23:23.48 | znf | lucky you |
| 23:23.59 | Megalon | so my internet is down, now i tether through my phone |
| 23:24.03 | Gnarfoz | that's what it should protect, why is there more |
| 23:24.14 | Megalon | everything has internet but not my browser,w tf |
| 23:25.02 | znf | Gnarfoz: dunno, ask apple |
| 23:25.14 | Gnarfoz | I'll just continue using sane things |
| 23:25.30 | Gnarfoz | (also most FRP bypasses are in customized Android versions, to my knowledge) |
| 23:25.35 | znf | from what I've tried, there's a few kinds of security measures |
| 23:26.00 | Gnarfoz | ask the FBI, they seem to have paid a lot of money to... actually no, they didn't pay for knowledge, they paid for a service. :p |
| 23:26.27 | znf | like, first of all, you need to "activate" an iPhone by sticking in a sim, then either using wifi/data/itunes , the device connects to apple's servers and somehow activates |
| 23:26.36 | znf | not sure what exactly does that "activation" do though |
| 23:27.05 | znf | when you "activate", if the device was previously locked via icloud, you are required to enter the old account/password which locked it in the first place |
| 23:27.21 | znf | you can't do anything else until you supplied that password |
| 23:27.31 | znf | that's their "setup wizard" |
| 23:27.37 | Gnarfoz | the first few steps are already insane: why do I have to talk to Apple to register my device with my carrier >_> |
| 23:27.51 | znf | some guys managed to remove the actual setup wizard (or just skip it, not sure) |
| 23:27.59 | znf | so they managed to reach the homescreen of the device |
| 23:28.02 | Gnarfoz | the second bit sounds like what Android's FRP does, too |
| 23:28.24 | znf | but without that activation, you can't do anything except scroll trough the home screens and open the default apps :P |
| 23:28.37 | znf | so in a way, the setup wizard is bypassed |
| 23:28.43 | znf | congrats, now you have an ipod! |
| 23:28.54 | Gnarfoz | (except you don't have to explicitly lock the device for it to kick in... as long as the device had a Google account registered on it and it was wiped without "OEM unlock" enabled, it'll ask you for that account's password) |
| 23:28.57 | znf | (with a camera) |
| 23:29.19 | znf | iphone does that, too, unless you specifically removed the account (I think?) before you factory reset |
| 23:29.40 | znf | I haven't played with an iphone in a while, can't be sure of how it works now |
| 23:29.58 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's supposedly what you need to do on Android, too, although I was kind of convinced that you couldn't remove the last remaining Google account |
| 23:30.30 | znf | but android is not limited in that way |
| 23:30.36 | znf | you can just not make use of google play services |
| 23:30.38 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I don't want my phone to have to be blessed by Apple before I can use it, so I'm fine with Android not doing that (maybe it does, and I'm not aware) |
| 23:30.53 | Gnarfoz | well... you can try. it's not a particularly pleasant experience. |
| 23:31.08 | znf | seems there are some 3rd party Google Play Services replacements out there |
| 23:31.14 | znf | most of them are in infancy though |
| 23:31.19 | znf | like https://microg.org/ |
| 23:31.48 | Gnarfoz | they all lack one important thing: GCM and its special contracts with mobile carriers to hold open their data connections for basically forever |
| 23:32.12 | Gnarfoz | without it: push only with increased batter use |
| 23:32.25 | znf | cool, wasn't aware of that |
| 23:32.26 | Gnarfoz | (only major issue I know about) |
| 23:32.51 | znf | that reminds me... why isn't my mobile provider doing ipv6 |
| 23:33.09 | znf | their FTTB service has ipv6, and they're national leaders in ipv6 deployment |
| 23:33.13 | Gnarfoz | probably because shitheads like Sasmung still turn off IPv6 when the phone isn't awake |
| 23:33.35 | Gnarfoz | (and it's probably a nightmare on any platform except LTE) |
| 23:34.13 | Gnarfoz | I'm curious if there's any news about DTAG's new fully-ipv6 based backend network |
| 23:34.30 | Gnarfoz | I already forgot what that was called... terastream? |
| 23:34.40 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 23:35.15 | Gnarfoz | in testing in Croatia since 2013 or so... no news :\ |
| 23:36.11 | znf | why except LTE? |
| 23:37.44 | znf | they're doing LTE anyway on band38 |
| 23:39.00 | Gnarfoz | because LTE is IP from top to bottom |
| 23:39.20 | Gnarfoz | (or well, a LOT more IP/packet based than anything before) |
| 23:39.44 | Repo | en_unitframes: 03yukinoba * r48 (3 files in 1 directory): statusText |
| 23:39.47 | Gnarfoz | ("band anything" is unrelated to what network protocol they use on top of that, that's just a frequency range) |
| 23:40.16 | Gnarfoz | heeeeey ndis.sys 115ms. tpcip.sys 92ms... :D |
| 23:40.22 | Gnarfoz | sigh. |
| 23:44.44 | Gnarfoz | I wonder if it's just pagefaults, btw... although I wonder how that'd be, considering I stream my music... |
| 23:44.53 | Kesava | nevcairiel: oh, yes, changed something with auras, i imagine that probably broke barauras |
| 23:45.21 | znf | I just meant that they are doing LTE |
| 23:45.23 | znf | so why no ipv6? :P |
| 23:46.51 | Megalon | Concentrator not reachable. thanks a1 :o |
| 23:47.06 | znf | ah, so LTE is not technically 4G |
| 23:47.22 | Megalon | your mom has 4G! |
| 23:48.16 | Megalon | well cya peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeplz |
| 23:52.16 | Gnarfoz | znf: yeah, never has been, that's all marketing shit ^^ |
| 23:52.34 | Gnarfoz | znf: and my reply to your "they're doing LTE" is: are they doing ONLY LTE? :D |
| 23:52.35 | znf | meanwhile, we're still waiting for that wimax to become actually available |
| 23:52.41 | Gnarfoz | nevergonnahappen.gif |
| 23:52.47 | znf | no, they're doing 3G and LTE only |
| 23:52.50 | znf | no 2G |
| 23:53.03 | Gnarfoz | UMTS is bad enough |
| 23:53.26 | Gnarfoz | they probably don't want to deal with running v6 over that, and they certainly don't want to deal with having v6 on one part of their network and not on the other ^^ |
| 23:53.35 | Gnarfoz | no GSM is interesting, though |
| 23:54.26 | Gnarfoz | also from the "interesting" department... the intel nic driver I'm currently using is called e1c63x64.sys ... that "63" seems indicative of the NDIS version it's for, when I look at the Intel PROset SFX contents |
| 23:54.57 | Gnarfoz | there's also a 6.5... why isn't it using that? the readme included in those folders seems to indicate ndis 6.5 is for win10 |
| 23:59.11 | znf | they're a rather new provider |
| 23:59.26 | znf | no point in building a GSM network in 2010++ |
| 23:59.31 | znf | plus, no license |
