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| 02:39.18 | Gnarfoz | https://gfycat.com/MeaslyDefiniteFly |
| 03:55.09 | quiescens | o.o |
| 03:55.14 | quiescens | gives Gnarfoz a cookie |
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| 10:48.12 | Megalon | who wants to be my daddy? |
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| 12:19.53 | znf | huh |
| 12:20.02 | znf | letsencrypt doesn't allow issuign certs for ec2 hostnames |
| 12:31.33 | wink | interesting but why would you do that> |
| 12:31.42 | wink | they're supposed to be ephemeral :P |
| 12:31.48 | wink | get a CNAME |
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| 12:58.59 | znf | wink, it was for a customer, and I have no tame domain name |
| 12:59.06 | znf | my own domain name means "lick-me" in Romanian, so... |
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| 13:01.55 | znf | also, speaking about DNS, I recently found out that the RFC states that you can't have TXT records for CNAMEs |
| 13:15.39 | wink | lol |
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| 15:32.25 | Fisker | So what znf? |
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| 19:43.12 | Phixion | hey Fisker :( |
| 19:43.28 | Fisker | Hey Phixion |
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| 21:05.17 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: ICYMI http://i.imgur.com/2uRivnj.png |
| 21:10.45 | nevcairiel | So they put a notice on there eh |
| 21:11.47 | Gnarfoz | I hadn't heard of the last bit |
| 21:15.17 | nevcairiel | The last line is rather contradictory, offer backdated certs sounds super fishy to evade the ban, while at the same time claiming to want to regain trust |
| 21:17.13 | Gnarfoz | that's not what the last line says, if I'm deciphering it right |
| 21:17.45 | Gnarfoz | they'll provide an interim solution soon and are going to replace all certificates they're currently (i.e. since october 21) issuing, on request |
| 21:18.13 | Gnarfoz | (probably something cross-signed) |
| 21:18.35 | nebula | back dating stuff has gotten them in trouble before, no? |
| 21:18.42 | Gnarfoz | there's nothing about backdating in there |
| 21:19.15 | nebula | was just saying |
| 21:19.18 | Gnarfoz | (and yes, that's one of the issues that got them into trouble) |
| 21:19.37 | nevcairiel | hm right i read that wrong, imgur is terrible on a phone |
| 21:19.47 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 21:19.52 | nevcairiel | for reasons the direct image link doesnt open the direct image when you are on a phone |
| 21:19.56 | nevcairiel | scrub website |
| 21:20.00 | Gnarfoz | do you have the app? |
| 21:20.04 | nevcairiel | no |
| 21:20.11 | Gnarfoz | hm, then they're being dicks |
| 21:20.13 | Gnarfoz | or giraffes |
| 21:20.21 | nevcairiel | dickraffes |
| 21:21.31 | Gnarfoz | pretty much |
| 21:21.39 | nevcairiel | considering startcoms practices and not their CA were in question, any CA willing to cross-sign them without doing their own validation would be a bit crazy, easy enough to get them on the ban list as well |
| 21:22.15 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I'm a bit confused as to why a different root CA would make a difference |
| 21:22.35 | Gnarfoz | unless it's provably un-associated with the previous owners/ppl in charge |
| 21:22.51 | nevcairiel | which seems unlikely considering it just changed owners, which is what started this mess :p |
| 21:23.04 | Gnarfoz | your guess is as good as mine ^^ |
| 21:31.00 | nevcairiel | not that I particularly care, I just like that google/mozilla actually took such actions |
| 21:31.46 | Gnarfoz | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.security.policy/BV5XyFJLnQM%5B1-25%5D seems to outline the plan |
| 21:33.20 | nevcairiel | i'm just happy that startcoms code signing certs suck so much, which made me stop using them alltogether a couple years ago |
| 21:33.25 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 21:34.13 | nevcairiel | heh some audit shop also got the axe in the process |
| 21:34.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:34.21 | nevcairiel | probably directly related to them anyway |
| 21:35.14 | Gnarfoz | Getting Windows ready |
| 21:35.20 | Gnarfoz | fucking laptop ^^ |
| 21:36.22 | nevcairiel | i have a new laptop sitting here that i need to install a clean windows on |
| 21:36.28 | nevcairiel | but i've been lazy |
| 21:36.40 | nevcairiel | the windows it came with is so full of shit |
| 21:36.51 | Gnarfoz | which brand? |
| 21:36.57 | nevcairiel | asus |
| 21:37.04 | Gnarfoz | :S |
| 21:37.12 | Gnarfoz | well, I have no idea what mine is doing right now, tbh |
| 21:38.06 | Gnarfoz | oh, it restarted finally. maybe it's done! |
| 21:38.26 | nevcairiel | i already downloaded drivers and a windows iso to get on there |
| 21:38.30 | nevcairiel | thats where i stopped =p |
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| 21:39.12 | Gnarfoz | oh hey, a login screen |
| 21:39.19 | Gnarfoz | by now the battery is mostly empty |
| 21:39.33 | nevcairiel | you installed it without power? |
| 21:39.40 | Gnarfoz | I didn't install anything! :D |
| 21:39.50 | Gnarfoz | I just rebooted it because it apparently didn't want to connect to my wifi |
| 21:40.00 | nevcairiel | maybe it had the faulty update on it |
| 21:40.09 | Gnarfoz | quite possible |
| 21:40.24 | Gnarfoz | although this one wasn't booted for a month or so, not sure it could have gotten it |
| 21:40.52 | Gnarfoz | looks like it works now, couldn't get past checkpoint's vpn client before |
| 21:41.04 | Gnarfoz | (or, well, I could have, I have a local user, too, but what good is that) |
| 21:41.25 | nevcairiel | work laptop eh |
| 21:41.33 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 21:41.46 | nevcairiel | i really dont like how those vpn things take over the login |
| 21:41.59 | nevcairiel | feels iffy |
| 21:42.09 | Gnarfoz | I think I could actually just click cancel, tbh |
| 21:42.20 | Gnarfoz | it sits between windows login prompt and getting to the desktop |
| 21:42.55 | Gnarfoz | it'd probably just work in "roaming" mode, but I have no idea how long that's valid |
| 21:43.16 | Gnarfoz | no matter, it should have refreshed whatever tokens it needs now |
| 21:43.42 | nevcairiel | i've seen systems that somehow managed to entirely replace (or at least re-skin?) the windows login box |
| 21:43.53 | nevcairiel | but that was ages ago with probably xp |
| 21:43.54 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 21:44.15 | Gnarfoz | meh, I didn't stay signed in long enough for the AV to update |
| 21:44.22 | Gnarfoz | now it's whining at me even on my local account |
| 21:44.26 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:45.41 | Gnarfoz | it also apparently stole my keyboard focus. I HATE THAT |
| 21:45.45 | Gnarfoz | gtfo |
| 21:46.01 | Gnarfoz | that should be configurable |
| 21:46.32 | Gnarfoz | almost as annoying as accidentally nuking a webserver earlier |
| 21:46.39 | nevcairiel | focus handling is a damn complex topic, but it can be so infuriating when some background up just comes up and steals it |
| 21:47.01 | Gnarfoz | especially if it then puts the focus onto some "ok, reboot now" button or something. :p |
| 21:47.07 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 21:47.16 | nevcairiel | and suddenly your pc reboots and you go like, wha what i do |
| 21:47.38 | nevcairiel | or even worse, you see some confirmation box pop up while typing and it goes away, and nothing happens |
| 21:47.45 | nevcairiel | wtf did i just change!?!? |
| 21:48.00 | Gnarfoz | didn't pay attention earlier and pasted "cd /usr/local/src\n" while in /usr/ with the "ncdu" tool... it promptly started deleting /usr. :D |
| 21:48.37 | Gnarfoz | yeah, the worst part is seeing it for a split second. I'd rather things just change on their own than me doing it accidentally because something stole focus |
| 21:48.57 | nevcairiel | i accidentally chowned'ed a root folder with some accident like that, could basically throw the system away :D |
| 21:49.34 | Gnarfoz | it has a shortcut "d" for delete, and apparently a popup asking if I'm sure I want to delete that and all its descendants. apparently that defaults to yes, because the \n at the end apparently confirmed that popup |
| 21:50.02 | nevcairiel | and by the time you notice, its already half done |
| 21:50.07 | Gnarfoz | cf. https://twitter.com/Gnarfoz/status/811288205983096832 |
| 21:50.28 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it's a VM, i/o is almost annoyingly fast |
| 21:51.01 | Gnarfoz | my SSH session was only still working because the binary was in memory |
| 21:51.02 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 21:51.45 | Gnarfoz | and I was lucky it had NFS mounts somewhere where I could drop a copy of /usr from another identical system |
| 21:51.54 | nevcairiel | helps to have that |
| 21:52.22 | Gnarfoz | (and tar being in /bin instead of /usr/bin was also a nice surprise) |
| 21:52.45 | Gnarfoz | I'll replace that copy with a restore from Monday's backup tomorrow, just to be on the safe side |
| 21:53.06 | Gnarfoz | but luckily /usr doesn't contain any "valuables" |
| 21:53.33 | Gnarfoz | if anything, this reduced divergence between 4 supposedly identical servers a bit. |
| 21:53.34 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:54.10 | Gnarfoz | ironically, I was going through those servers because the root fs was a bit crowded for my liking, wanted to clean it out a bit before going on xmas vacation |
| 21:54.43 | Gnarfoz | clearly, I should give fewer fucks |
| 21:55.20 | Gnarfoz | (or not blindly do ctrl+tab, paste, ctrl+tab, paste, ctrl+tab, paste... ^^) |
| 21:56.44 | Gnarfoz | speaking of things I should do... |
| 21:56.45 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/Gnarfoz/status/811171157739261952 |
| 21:57.15 | Gnarfoz | I haven't interacted with freenode services in 5 years |
| 21:59.34 | Gnarfoz | PUBKEY Changes your ECDSA-NIST256p-CHALLENGE public key. |
| 21:59.39 | Gnarfoz | that's possible? neat |
| 21:59.45 | Gnarfoz | probably nothing supports that |
| 22:00.45 | nevcairiel | quassel in theory supports pubkey login, but not quite the variant freenode uses |
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| 22:02.28 | Gnarfoz | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cz6ZVOAXcAA3PTE.jpg:large :D |
| 22:05.04 | Gnarfoz | the battery on this thing is really terrible |
| 22:05.19 | Gnarfoz | 36% remaining, 28 minutes remaining? |
| 22:05.24 | Gnarfoz | is this 1999 |
| 22:06.29 | nevcairiel | business workstation laptop? barely enough to survive a power outage =p |
| 22:07.52 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea if anyone put forth any particular requirements for these models, or what they might be |
| 22:08.06 | nevcairiel | "cheap" |
| 22:08.06 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 22:08.30 | Gnarfoz | possibly, considering it came with 4 GB RAM and typically doesn't have an SSD |
| 22:08.54 | Gnarfoz | gah, my evil plan has been foiled |
| 22:09.01 | Gnarfoz | "battery saver is turned on, so we've pause downloads." |
| 22:09.25 | Gnarfoz | well. time to move my ass and get the adapter so it can do its thing |
| 22:10.19 | Gnarfoz | the fun thing is that regardless of its shortcomings, it still feels snappier than my desktop. :D |
| 22:11.44 | Gnarfoz | all thanks to this ssd contraption https://goo.gl/photos/89GRqCUGmDhWzoAv9 |
| 22:12.10 | nevcairiel | is that an msata adapter |
| 22:12.13 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 22:12.20 | znf | Stanzilla: metal is not bad either |
| 22:13.05 | Gnarfoz | mind you, that's straight from dell |
| 22:13.26 | Gnarfoz | the "normally no SSD" bit was just referring to the corporate standard |
| 22:13.42 | Stanzilla | znf: I used that before swipe |
| 22:14.04 | znf | Did you use the pro one? |
| 22:14.09 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 22:14.53 | znf | Metal is not lagging in the comment field |
| 22:15.04 | Stanzilla | did you report that bug |
| 22:15.25 | Gnarfoz | also, we recently each got another 4GB SODIMM, so basically our laptops are now on par with RAM, have an SSD where our desktops don't, but have mobile CPUs (i5-5300U) |
| 22:15.33 | Gnarfoz | still debating replacing my desktop with the laptop. xD |
| 22:17.29 | Gnarfoz | also, finally ordered a 1070 \o/ |
| 22:18.03 | nevcairiel | if you dont do much cpu intensive tasks, the mobile cpu isnt really much of a problem |
| 22:18.10 | Gnarfoz | that elusive palit one is finally in stock (and even took a little price tumble, almost not worth mentioning at these prices) |
| 22:18.59 | znf | Stanzilla: yes |
| 22:19.03 | znf | He made it better |
| 22:19.04 | Stanzilla | good |
| 22:19.06 | znf | But still slow |
| 22:19.30 | znf | nevcairiel: browsing is intensive these days |
| 22:20.15 | Gnarfoz | I think the biggest CPU load is the odd (de)compression |
| 22:21.39 | znf | Javascript is |
| 22:21.54 | Gnarfoz | not really, no |
| 22:21.58 | znf | Ever tried to browse without Adblock on an old cpu? |
| 22:22.14 | Gnarfoz | why would I browse without adblock, that's an unrealistic scenario |
| 22:22.35 | Gnarfoz | and it's a very modern CPU |
| 22:23.24 | Gnarfoz | the other CPU hog is probably the on-access AV |
| 22:23.41 | Gnarfoz | worthless piece of shit ^^ |
| 22:24.31 | znf | I disable that |
| 22:25.06 | Gnarfoz | you don't even know what "that" is; and it's not an option |
| 22:25.34 | znf | Windows Defender |
| 22:25.38 | znf | !! |
| 22:25.38 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 22:26.11 | nevcairiel | our work system was setup to do a two-weekly scan of the entire system, when you forgot to leave your PC on over night on that day, you could practically not use it the entire morning |
| 22:26.13 | nevcairiel | that was fun |
| 22:26.21 | Gnarfoz | that's less terrible. ^^ (and also it's not even an AV on Win7, is it) |
| 22:27.02 | Gnarfoz | we're officially not allowed to leave or computers on (fire prevention and such), but to where do I RDP if I need to fix something, then? :D |
| 22:27.19 | nevcairiel | doesnt your laptop have all the same access |
| 22:27.36 | Gnarfoz | (although, that argument has less pull now that I have this laptop. although I bet there's issues with VPN/firewall rules...) |
| 22:28.15 | nevcairiel | most of our admins had only laptops, and a docking station at work with extra monitors of course |
| 22:28.19 | znf | Stanzilla: what I still hate is the touch responsiveness |
| 22:28.31 | Stanzilla | sad story |
| 22:29.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I think someone actually ordered a docking station for me without telling me, ;D |
| 22:30.22 | Gnarfoz | one of our other admins asked if I had also asked for one and I was like "idk? not while sober" |
| 22:35.49 | Gnarfoz | poor Hrydshal, first I bombed them, now I'm killing their doods |
| 22:36.38 | nevcairiel | bombing didnt do that? |
| 22:37.01 | Gnarfoz | I guess the meme somehow does require saying "I'm in their base, killing their doodz" ^^ |
