| 00:10.42 | Gnarfoz | is there some way to connect to old speedport routers with Chrome now? ;X |
| 00:11.02 | Gnarfoz | (firefox, chrome, ie11, none work ^^) |
| 00:13.18 | nevcairiel | how screwed up can their shit be? |
| 00:14.16 | Megalon | i only expect the worst :P |
| 00:14.46 | Gnarfoz | certs expired, and I think on top of that it dies when it sees a DNT header ;D |
| 00:14.52 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 00:15.13 | nevcairiel | no way to bypass the cert thing at all, eh? |
| 00:15.50 | Megalon | can't you always go to the page anyway? :P |
| 00:25.49 | Gnarfoz | apparently, I can't |
| 00:26.39 | Gnarfoz | IE/Chrome's exception thing (add to "trusted sites") doesn't care; adding it to Firefox' exception list is easy, but the login prompt just won't work :D |
| 00:27.15 | Gnarfoz | hm, where do you turn off DNT headers in IE |
| 00:28.37 | nevcairiel | that seems kinda sucky to be so super restrictive, what if i add a cert to my fritz box and i forget to update it in time, screwed for ever? |
| 00:28.48 | quiescens | o.o |
| 00:28.52 | Gnarfoz | oh, they're off, when did they change that |
| 00:28.54 | nevcairiel | unless a site uses HSTS or something you should be able to just click "no care" |
| 00:29.09 | Funkeh` | doesn't IE have that compat button |
| 00:29.14 | Gnarfoz | yeah, quite annoying. maybe I'h holding it wrong, though |
| 00:29.17 | Funkeh` | to use ie8 mode or something |
| 00:29.23 | Gnarfoz | IE is in the "stuck at cert error" crowd |
| 00:29.50 | Funkeh` | try disable tls 1.1/1.2 in the internet options? |
| 00:30.05 | Gnarfoz | it's complaining about the expired cert, but I can give that a try for kicks |
| 00:30.15 | Funkeh` | just throwing ideas |
| 00:33.05 | Gnarfoz | no dice |
| 00:33.34 | Funkeh` | did you try force ie8 mode, I think it's via dev tools |
| 00:33.56 | Gnarfoz | it's via compatibility view, I can add the site to it, but it doesn't make a difference because it's not even being loaded |
| 00:34.06 | Gnarfoz | i.e. (heh) that stuff is only for html troubles, I think |
| 00:34.30 | Gnarfoz | offering only "close this website" as recourse is horrible. :D |
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| 00:35.49 | Gnarfoz | they don't even show the cert in question, what gives |
| 00:36.00 | Funkeh` | doesn't make sense why it wouldn't let you ignore the cert |
| 00:36.10 | Gnarfoz | no idea |
| 00:36.19 | Gnarfoz | I'll try my luck with Firefox, I know that worked in the past |
| 00:36.20 | Funkeh` | is it forced https? |
| 00:39.29 | Gnarfoz | yeah, it redirects to https |
| 00:39.45 | Gnarfoz | also, I think I might have found the culprit |
| 00:39.57 | Gnarfoz | the cert of the device itself has been expired since 2013, not news |
| 00:40.19 | Gnarfoz | but by now the VeriSign intermediate it uses has also expired on 2016-10-25, which is after I was last here |
| 00:40.23 | Gnarfoz | >_< |
| 00:47.38 | Gnarfoz | also |
| 00:47.39 | Gnarfoz | The connection to this site uses an obsolete protocol (TLS 1.0), an obsolete key exchange (RSA), and an obsolete cipher (AES_128_CBC with HMAC-SHA1). |
| 00:47.44 | Gnarfoz | nice |
| 00:47.50 | Gnarfoz | not surprising, of course |
| 00:48.05 | quiescens | what site are you playing with now foz o.o |
| 00:48.53 | Gnarfoz | home router admin interface @ parents |
| 00:49.11 | Megalon | stomp on it, buy a real one in a few hours |
| 00:49.12 | Megalon | :x |
| 00:49.40 | Gnarfoz | the joke: there's a fb 7390 lying around here somewhere... |
| 00:49.56 | Megalon | then you should go an on adventure to find it |
| 00:50.23 | Gnarfoz | no, I'll mark the section concering this particular device as "possibly wrong/outdated" and move on :D |
| 00:51.03 | Gnarfoz | (in other news, setting my date to 2010 just turned all my Chrome tabs into "clock error" warning pages. :D site still wouldn't work) |
| 00:51.36 | Gnarfoz | when I log into the page using Firefox, it hangs at the login prompt (tumbling) and shortly after, the internet connection disappears for a bit |
| 00:52.07 | Gnarfoz | I'd like to say "they don't make 'em like they used to", but apparently, the opposite is true |
| 00:52.48 | Gnarfoz | (or, well, you know... you get the idea. I'll go to bed instead of bothering further with this crap) |
| 00:52.55 | quiescens | go sleep |
| 00:52.59 | quiescens | ^^ |
| 00:53.02 | Gnarfoz | o.o |
| 00:53.05 | Gnarfoz | sleep is good |
| 00:53.50 | Megalon | sleep is god |
| 00:57.05 | nevcairiel | tl;dr, better scrap old router hardware for parts instead of trying to use it =p |
| 01:00.04 | Megalon | scrap old router for parts? |
| 01:00.10 | Megalon | to line the bin with? :P |
| 01:01.13 | Gnarfoz | nerdy xmas tree ornaments |
| 01:01.18 | nevcairiel | for example! |
| 01:01.22 | Funkeh` | to be fair routers took a massive leap hardwise from the mips shit to smartphone level ARM/RAM etc |
| 01:01.51 | nevcairiel | its a isp provided router model, even the newer ones are still crap |
| 01:01.52 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 01:02.02 | Funkeh` | :/ |
| 01:02.26 | nevcairiel | well they probably work fine if you need the basic functionality they offer |
| 01:02.31 | nevcairiel | but just cant make them do anything else |
| 01:03.27 | nevcairiel | speaking of routers, Gnarfoz did you have a 7390 or 7490 at home? I read some reports that say upgrading may help vectoring performance |
| 01:03.40 | Gnarfoz | 7362sl |
| 01:03.46 | nevcairiel | oh cheapo |
| 01:03.47 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 01:04.06 | nevcairiel | but you do get full performance i assume |
| 01:04.20 | Gnarfoz | 1&1 gave it to me, and it works beautifully, no complaints |
| 01:04.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, full 100/40, no issues |
| 01:04.54 | Gnarfoz | I do follow latest lab version, too, though, just because I can |
| 01:05.06 | nevcairiel | hasnt been a lab for a while for mine |
| 01:05.15 | Gnarfoz | aren't the *90' |
| 01:05.19 | Gnarfoz | usually first in line? |
| 01:05.36 | nevcairiel | actually there is one from a few weeks ago, havent checked for a while |
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| 01:05.49 | nevcairiel | but notes just say dect stuff |
| 01:06.06 | Gnarfoz | I'm on 6.69 beta something |
| 01:06.13 | nevcairiel | NEU - Stabilitätserhöhung an BNG/Vectoring-Anschlüssen |
| 01:06.14 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 01:06.16 | nevcairiel | i have both of that! |
| 01:06.21 | nevcairiel | maybe i should try it |
| 01:07.10 | Gnarfoz | can't hurt; are you having issues? |
| 01:07.47 | nevcairiel | not sure, might have been server issues, can't really tell reliably yet |
| 01:08.18 | Gnarfoz | hm, apparently I'm not on the latest build, though |
| 01:09.10 | nevcairiel | after reading about vectoring performance, a bunch of people claimed they got some better results on newer hardware, so i thought maybe give a 7580 a whirl (for some re ason they made 80 the highend) |
| 01:11.51 | Gnarfoz | wow, 290⬠|
| 01:12.22 | Gnarfoz | almost feels like an intel/amd, nvidia/amd situation |
| 01:12.28 | Gnarfoz | avm/everyone else |
| 01:12.29 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 01:12.59 | Gnarfoz | (although the situation is certainly a lot less so, but AVM just has a very good reputation, I guess) |
| 01:13.51 | quiescens | o.o |
| 01:14.23 | Megalon | quiescens/cookiesthatdon'tactuallykillyou |
| 01:19.07 | nevcairiel | in germany certainly |
| 01:19.16 | nevcairiel | are there even other vendors that offer an integrated dsl modem |
| 01:21.09 | nevcairiel | updated to labor firmware, lets see if anything changes |
| 01:21.26 | nevcairiel | one thing i noticed, syncing is much slower with vectoring =p |
| 01:23.17 | Gnarfoz | a bunch, apparently, http://geizhals.de/?cat=wlanroutmod&xf=4024_VDSL2 |
| 01:23.31 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 01:23.42 | nevcairiel | didnt thing that would be that interesting for big international vendors |
| 01:23.55 | nevcairiel | since modems m ay need to be different everywhere |
| 01:24.17 | Gnarfoz | but, sort by popularity... http://geizhals.de/?cat=wlanroutmod&xf=4024_VDSL2&asuch=&bpmax=&v=e&hloc=at&hloc=de&plz=&dist=&sort=t&bl1_id=30 |
| 01:24.27 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 01:26.01 | nevcairiel | hey the upstream is back in the spectrum display |
| 01:31.07 | Gnarfoz | is it? interesting |
| 01:31.26 | Gnarfoz | https://techtest.org/der-tp-link-archer-vr2600v-im-test-die-bessere-alternative-zur-avm-fritzbox-7580/ for half the price of the 7580, that doesn't read half bad |
| 01:31.49 | nevcairiel | already 4 uncorrectable errors since i rebooted it with the new firmware, i didnt have that many before |
| 01:38.12 | Gnarfoz | at least we don't have to deal with this https://dashboard.congress.ccc.de/ :D |
| 01:43.38 | nevcairiel | so apparently the 7580 has its own kind of issues, eh =p |
| 01:54.10 | nevcairiel | i found some interesting tidbit |
| 01:54.24 | nevcairiel | the 7362SL is actually newer then the 7390 and has the same modem as a 7490 |
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| 06:26.08 | AmiYuy | Is there some reason my Curse Premium from being a project author is missing? Did I mess something up? |
| 06:26.51 | Zeldo | It's not missing, just the tag isn't showing |
| 06:27.39 | AmiYuy | What tag? I'm seeing ads on Curse.com. |
| 06:28.06 | Zeldo | Oh, there is an issue where some tags are not showing |
| 06:28.20 | Zeldo | In bed ATM but I'll check it out in the morning |
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| 06:28.56 | AmiYuy | Okay, thank you. :) |
| 07:05.23 | quiescens | moo |
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| 07:46.43 | tomzx | do you guys use any addon/tools to do in-game debugging? I'm trying to figure out if there's something better than /framestack :) |
| 07:47.28 | tomzx | also, trying to build a ScrollingTableFrame ala TSM, sadly their GUI stuff is quite deep into their app :( |
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| 09:36.47 | nebula | nevcairiel: can you think of a reason why acedb would fail to init? http://i.imgur.com/iVdybzA.jpg i have no idea wtf is happening, but some toons will only use defaults/not save changes because sv aren't used |
| 09:37.36 | nevcairiel | it cant really fail |
| 09:39.11 | nevcairiel | unless you declare it before the sv is actually loaded |
| 09:39.40 | nebula | it's in the oninit like always |
| 09:40.01 | nevcairiel | you dont loadaddon from the main chunk anywhere, do you |
| 09:40.21 | nevcairiel | (because that throws of calling order of oninit) |
| 09:40.34 | nebula | shouldn't |
| 09:41.32 | nevcairiel | actually you do |
| 09:41.58 | nevcairiel | thats what optdeps are for! |
| 09:42.07 | nebula | yea, i see that now, i changed a function and forgot to remove that shit |
| 09:42.35 | nevcairiel | you could add a debug printer in there to see if its actually hitting it |
| 09:42.40 | nevcairiel | because that would explain it |
| 09:43.18 | nebula | that was the issue, fuck me, thanks |
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| 12:27.42 | Stanzilla_ | :E |
| 12:49.12 | Megalon | :G |
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| 15:47.52 | quiescens | ! |
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| 16:28.08 | Megalon | so what did we exactly do in vim? |
| 16:33.26 | tomzx | Megalon: I think you mean !qq:q:qQQQctrl+Cq |
| 16:34.05 | Megalon | that's exactly the shortcut i use to exit vim! |
| 16:34.17 | Fisker | https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cf/96/c0/cf96c0f391ed6ab873fd66eeb496d5b1.jpg |
| 16:34.22 | tomzx | alias vim=nano |
| 16:34.34 | nebula | ew |
| 16:34.39 | Megalon | or nano or whatevert that git thing uses |
| 16:34.51 | Fisker | alias vim=notepad |
| 16:34.58 | Megalon | sometime i think it might be faster to just reboot :P |
| 16:35.08 | tomzx | but really alias vim=rm -Rf / --no-preserve-root |
| 16:36.28 | nebula | Zeldo: client isn't showing new builds for pitbull4 |
| 16:37.57 | nebula | rather, it's not seeing new builds are newer than v4.0.11 i guess |
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| 16:47.52 | Zeldo | Hrm, it sees them, just doesnât realize they are newer for some reason |
| 16:47.57 | Zeldo | Iâll poke some people |
| 16:48.11 | Megalon | one uppoke = 1 molest |
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