| 00:00.24 | znf | https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2017/04/11/windows-10-creators-update-whats-new-in-bashwsl-windows-console/ |
| 00:00.26 | znf | this says otherwise |
| 00:00.52 | znf | meh, you have to run it with 'bash -c...' |
| 00:01.07 | nebula | yes, which is completely different |
| 00:01.24 | znf | I tought they were doing the opposite |
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| 02:15.22 | Stanzilla | ó,ó |
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| 03:38.51 | Fisker | hi Stanzilla |
| 04:05.33 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 04:09.53 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 04:21.36 | ls-_- | hi o/ |
| 04:21.49 | quiescens | o/ |
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| 06:17.09 | Phixion | morning |
| 06:17.32 | quiescens | moo |
| 06:17.45 | Phixion | sup quiescens |
| 06:40.32 | ls-_- | moo :D |
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| 08:17.55 | Fisker | >SMB v1 in 2017 amirite Stanzilla? |
| 08:21.17 | Phixion | hey Fisker |
| 08:29.39 | Gnarfoz | >enabled by default on all installs in 2017 |
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| 08:32.03 | Phixion | ಠ_ಠ|
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| 08:33.10 | Fisker | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 08:33.13 | Fisker | I disabled it |
| 08:33.18 | Fisker | But Solid Explorer won't run anymore |
| 08:33.20 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:35.39 | Gnarfoz | Samba, ole |
| 08:36.27 | Phixion | sambal olek |
| 08:36.40 | quiescens | \o/ |
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| 13:54.32 | Gnarfoz | nice, progress bar in 'ps' http://i.imgur.com/ooIaXtR.png ^^ |
| 13:55.53 | nevcairiel | not much of a bar |
| 13:57.29 | znf | that's a lot of NVTs |
| 14:14.18 | Fisker | powershell progress bar is better |
| 14:17.52 | haste | I've heard node had a really nice progress bar |
| 14:18.07 | haste | https://github.com/npm/npm/issues/11283 |
| 14:20.03 | nevcairiel | npm and its gazillion of depencencies is generally slow and crappy =p |
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| 17:02.17 | znf | I added an USB drive to my android tv-box |
| 17:02.26 | znf | sata-to-usb enclosure, 300gb hdd (something I had laying around) |
| 17:02.33 | znf | tried to adopt it as internal storage |
| 17:02.37 | znf | "this drive appears slow" |
| 17:02.38 | znf | wat |
| 17:03.18 | Megalon | wie der herr, so es gscher |
| 17:03.22 | Megalon | h3 h3 h3! |
| 17:04.29 | znf | blinks at Megalon |
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| 18:15.08 | nevcairiel | hey Stanzilla how do i fix a fresh 8.1 install always getting stuck on looking for windows updates? |
| 18:17.04 | silentium | nevcairiel: have you heard of http://wu.krelay.de/en/ before? |
| 18:17.09 | nevcairiel | the typical fixes i google up say "manually install this update KBxxx", but those also get stuck =p |
| 18:17.13 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: manually update the update agent |
| 18:17.31 | nevcairiel | more manual then trying to run the KB installer? |
| 18:17.37 | nevcairiel | because that also gets stuck the same way |
| 18:17.46 | Stanzilla | did you force stop the services before trying that |
| 18:17.50 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 18:17.52 | Stanzilla | and disable automatic updates |
| 18:17.52 | Fisker | Windows 10 is a good way to fix your windows update issues |
| 18:17.55 | nevcairiel | it immediately starts it again |
| 18:18.04 | Stanzilla | yeah you have to disable updates |
| 18:18.08 | Stanzilla | or it will just start searchign |
| 18:18.26 | silentium | Fisker: win 3.1 is even better, it takes less time to keep it at the latest patch level |
| 18:18.56 | Fisker | I'm mad at the registry though |
| 18:19.12 | nevcairiel | hm disabling auto update seems to help, those aticles could've mentioned those =p |
| 18:19.19 | Fisker | Fucking registry symlinks |
| 18:19.52 | Fisker | To think they supported stupid annoying shit in the registry before they did in the filesystem |
| 18:20.39 | silentium | nevcairiel: http://wu.krelay.de/en/ mentions that step :) |
| 18:22.21 | Stanzilla | they should have done the "we put out updated isos from time to time" thing before win10 |
| 18:22.27 | nevcairiel | silentium: that page talks about a solution to some issue without even mentioning what its trying to fix |
| 18:22.54 | Fisker | They did Stanzilla |
| 18:23.09 | Stanzilla | service packs left aside |
| 18:23.12 | nevcairiel | i used the media creator today for 8.1, and it s eems to have the same issue still |
| 18:23.35 | Stanzilla | he was only talking about SPs |
| 18:23.41 | Fisker | You can make it yourself Stanzilla |
| 18:23.48 | Fisker | Also I'm not sure I am |
| 18:24.07 | Fisker | Believe they had updated windows 7 Isos too |
| 18:24.08 | Stanzilla | yes you are and ofc you can but that's besides the point |
| 18:24.10 | Fisker | On msdn |
| 18:24.39 | Fisker | Or not msdn but vlsc actually |
| 18:25.12 | silentium | nevcairiel: o_O apparently you are right, the contents of that page have been edited and shifted around since the last time I actually read it ⦠|
| 18:25.58 | silentium | but the title of the page says "Search for Windows Updates takes forever? - A possible solution" |
| 18:26.16 | Fisker | But Stanzilla hklm\software\Microsoft\windows nt\currentversion\perflib is the worst thing |
| 18:26.19 | nevcairiel | who reads titles :D |
| 18:27.06 | Stanzilla | Fisker: never had a problem with it |
| 18:27.16 | Fisker | It's the worst |
| 18:27.40 | Fisker | By fooling around a bit I can get it to generate the English keys as Danish |
| 18:28.22 | Fisker | And it's a hive within a hive that used to be a standalone hive but isn't anymore but kind of is anyway? |
| 18:30.45 | Stanzilla | what is your original problem |
| 18:35.18 | Fisker | Oh it goes back to Windows 3.x |
| 18:35.18 | nevcairiel | yay only about a gigabyte of updates to install |
| 18:35.23 | Fisker | When they introduced the windows registry |
| 18:35.50 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/okLjNX1.png <-also god damnit |
| 18:36.59 | Fisker | But my issue is that perflib is some symlinked nonsense of a registry hived backed by a separate file store, which doesn't seem to be working correctly |
| 18:37.29 | Fisker | i.e. the CurrentLanguage key is populated but the 009 key is not (It's the same key(hive)) |
| 18:41.43 | Stanzilla | what are the symptoms of that? |
| 18:41.49 | Stanzilla | wrong language somewehre? |
| 18:43.50 | Fisker | No, one key/hive is loaded but the other is not |
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| 18:59.47 | Stanzilla | do you guys get a buy button here? http://store.steampowered.com/app/12170/Grand_T |
| 19:01.49 | nebula | Stanzilla: no |
| 19:01.59 | Stanzilla | mkay |
| 19:02.06 | Kalroth | Steam got some games they aren't allowed to sell anymore |
| 19:02.35 | Kalroth | usually because they're a part of a bundle |
| 19:02.46 | Kalroth | or were |
| 19:03.36 | Stanzilla | https://steamdb.info/app/12170/?utm_source=Steam&utm_medium=Steam&utm_campaign=SteamDB%20Extension |
| 19:03.40 | Fisker | why would you get one Stanzilla ? |
| 19:04.13 | Fisker | Pretty sure it was like part of one of the GTA packs Stanzilla |
| 19:04.32 | Stanzilla | https://steamdb.info/app/12170/subs/ |
| 19:04.34 | Stanzilla | well |
| 19:05.27 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.27 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.28 | Stanzilla | rip |
| 19:05.50 | Stanzilla | still on the index, I guess |
| 19:06.52 | Stanzilla | nebula: can you buy that https://store.steampowered.com/sub/16933/?utm_source=SteamDB&utm_medium=SteamDB&utm_campaign=SteamDB%20Package%20Page |
| 19:07.02 | nebula | redir to the main page |
| 19:07.13 | Stanzilla | figured |
| 19:08.53 | Stanzilla | https://www.kinguin.net/category/17938/grand-theft-auto-complete-bundle-including-gta-1-2-row-steam-cd-key/ |
| 19:08.57 | Stanzilla | nope.jpg |
| 19:09.20 | nebula | i mean shit, i probably have the original install cds somewhere, want me to upload them? lol |
| 19:09.31 | Stanzilla | rockstar released them for free |
| 19:09.34 | Stanzilla | I just wanted them on steam |
| 19:09.39 | nebula | why? |
| 19:09.49 | Stanzilla | collection |
| 19:09.58 | nebula | shakes his head |
| 19:10.10 | Stanzilla | The FULL games used to be completely free from Rockstar a few years ago from this link: http://www.rockstargames.com/classics/ |
| 19:10.10 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.10 | Stanzilla | Unfortunately, they seemed to have pulled the games off. |
| 19:10.10 | Stanzilla | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.10 | Stanzilla | https://www.forbes.com/sites/gregvoakes/2012/06/10/rockstar-games-offers-gta-and-gta-2-for-free/#315d98ae2ea7 |
| 19:10.11 | Stanzilla | damn |
| 19:11.21 | Stanzilla | I sold my super old games on a flee market 10 years ago |
| 19:11.23 | Stanzilla | regrets |
| 19:11.25 | Fisker | rekt |
| 19:11.43 | Fisker | Think I'm gonna play a game now |
| 19:11.52 | Fisker | Staring at the windows registry is making me sick |
| 19:12.52 | Fisker | well I guess not since neither works |
| 19:12.53 | Fisker | rip |
| 19:14.26 | Fisker | btw Stanzilla https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/grand-theft-auto-collection/ |
| 19:14.34 | Fisker | in theory includes gta1 and 2 |
| 19:14.40 | Stanzilla | We're sorry, but this game is not available in your region. |
| 19:14.41 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 19:14.50 | nebula | it doesn't :p |
| 19:15.03 | nebula | it's gta3/4 |
| 19:15.21 | Stanzilla | I read that it included it |
| 19:15.23 | Stanzilla | but it was removed later |
| 19:15.28 | Stanzilla | because the games dont run on modern os |
| 19:15.33 | Stanzilla | and people complained a lot |
| 19:16.17 | Fisker | "Hi, could you please stop offering us free games that have no negative implications on our life because they don't work? Thx" |
| 19:16.40 | Stanzilla | it wasnt free |
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| 19:17.06 | Fisker | So the pack price was reduced Stanzilla? |
| 19:17.20 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 19:17.32 | Fisker | (I'm sure that's a no) |
| 19:18.33 | Stanzilla | still, you could only get it via that bundle after rockstar took the downloads down |
| 19:18.35 | Stanzilla | so not really free |
| 19:19.11 | quiescens | moo |
| 19:19.31 | quiescens | goto sleep |
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| 19:32.19 | Fisker | Point was just that the people won't get the games cheaper so I'm that sense it's free Stanzilla |
| 19:32.29 | Fisker | But I can fight you |
| 19:32.41 | nebula | maybe they bought it solely for those games and wouldn't have bought it otherwise |
| 19:33.30 | Fisker | Then you wouldn't ask them to stop bundling those games? |
| 19:34.01 | Fisker | "Hi I paid money for the GTA pack to get GTA, can you stop bundling GTA, thanks" |
| 19:34.04 | nebula | i don't think anyone asked them to |
| 19:34.20 | Fisker | Read irc or fight me |
| 19:34.53 | nebula | i mean, you keep saying things, that doesn't make them true |
| 19:35.04 | Fisker | I didn't say that |
| 19:35.20 | nebula | neither did i |
| 19:52.54 | znf | fights Fisker |
| 20:14.26 | znf | huh |
| 20:14.31 | znf | since when can Win10 Pro format REFS? |
| 20:14.59 | znf | (I know it can use it since 8.1+, but the format option wasn't available) |
| 20:15.07 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/vh4VS1s.png |
| 20:17.16 | znf | when you set cluster size to 32MB: http://i.imgur.com/HqhNwUi.png |
| 20:17.16 | znf | :D |
| 20:17.18 | Fisker | Since 1703 I think |
| 20:19.05 | znf | cool |
| 20:30.30 | znf | http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/05/13/netflix-confirms-blocking-rootedunlocked-devices-app-still-working-now/ |
| 20:31.20 | nebula | someday corporations will realize that shit like that drives people away from legitimate use |
| 20:44.02 | Stanzilla | I doubt it |
| 20:45.48 | znf | same :-/ |
| 20:54.45 | nevcairiel | its probably not even netflix fault but some piece of shit like mpaa or whatever there is for tv |
| 20:55.11 | nevcairiel | complaining and pressuring companies like netflix |
| 20:55.22 | nebula | yea, in the reddit thread people said is was from disney threatening to pull all it's content unless netflix protected the drm'd stuff better |
| 20:55.39 | nebula | with the offline viewing and such |
| 20:59.01 | znf | then they can take the offline viewing out |
| 20:59.51 | nebula | i think they already disable on a bunch of stuff |
| 21:00.01 | nebula | i've never actually used it |
| 21:00.46 | nebula | it was rights' holders that strong armed them over vpn usage, no? |
| 21:01.26 | nevcairiel | I'm sure netflix would be happy to offer as much flexible usage as they could, but alas the concept of making users happy hasnt reached the content producers yet |
| 21:01.38 | nevcairiel | stuff shows up ripped everywhere anyway |
| 21:01.44 | nebula | if everyone wasn't fighting over who gets to stream what, maybe they could tell the old guard to go fuck themselves |
| 21:02.50 | nebula | although i suppse that's why netflix shifted to creating so much of their own content, so they don't have to deal with that shit |
| 21:04.14 | znf | I think that some shows aren't DRMd at all |
| 21:04.20 | znf | last time I checked, House of Cards wasn't |
| 21:04.43 | Stanzilla | the netflix thing is because of widevine only working on safetynet devices, no? |
| 21:05.00 | nebula | that's what the article said |
| 21:05.23 | Stanzilla | k |
| 21:05.24 | znf | sooo, wait a sec |
| 21:05.30 | znf | no safetynet, no hd content? |
| 21:05.41 | nevcairiel | no safetynet, no netflix app |
| 21:05.56 | nebula | rather, the store uses safetynet, which doesn't care about widevine |
| 21:06.08 | znf | ah, cool |
| 21:06.24 | znf | I wonder how the hell to check the resolution that netflix is streaming on my android device |
| 21:06.49 | nevcairiel | the check the playstore performs isnt directly tied to the widevine protection status |
| 21:07.05 | nevcairiel | so if you grab the app through other means, it might or might not work |
| 21:07.10 | nevcairiel | not sure if you can check the widevine status |
| 21:08.06 | znf | I'm mostly curious if I get at least 720p |
| 21:08.27 | nevcairiel | anyhow the majority of people dont root their phones anyway, its just those silly internet idiots that do that :p |
| 21:08.59 | znf | my android media box was shipped rooted |
| 21:09.33 | nebula | #justrothings |
| 21:12.33 | znf | chinese, you mean |
| 21:12.51 | nebula | fair enough |
| 21:16.18 | znf | `http://i.imgur.com/nUhfUjF.jpg |
| 21:16.22 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/nUhfUjF.jpg |
| 21:19.36 | Stanzilla | move a bit but not crash into the wall? |
| 21:20.32 | znf | I think it will maintain it's momentum and it will travel with the train |
| 21:20.40 | znf | obviously as long as the acceleration is not too high |
| 21:20.52 | znf | and it doesn't go from 0 to 100 in 1 second |
| 21:21.06 | znf | http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae203.cfm |
| 21:21.13 | znf | I think this explains it |
| 21:21.57 | Stanzilla | tldr pls |
| 21:21.57 | nebula | it's a matter of inertia, it may not "crash" into a wall, but it won't stay in the same relative position |
| 21:22.04 | Stanzilla | so what I said |
| 21:25.01 | znf | Stanzilla, Toss a ball straight up and it will drop straight back down relative to you, NOT falling behind as you move on ahead. The ball maintains its initial forward MOMENTUM in addition to its up and down motion. |
| 21:25.10 | znf | while in a car, that is |
| 21:25.39 | nebula | yes, because it has the same momentum as you when you throw it |
| 21:25.52 | nebula | toss it up then accelerate and it'll land in the back seat |
| 21:26.08 | Megalon | well technically it lands a bit behind you |
| 21:26.12 | Megalon | because coriolis :P |
| 21:26.49 | nevcairiel | the helicopter is a bit different, it has no momentum when it starts, and it would stay in the exact same spot - however, relative to the helicopter there is s uddenly air movement around it, and that'll push it forward, so it'll likely accelerate, but perhaps not as much as the train |
| 21:27.41 | Stanzilla | so still what I said :D |
| 21:27.45 | Stanzilla | it would move but not crash into the wall |
| 21:28.11 | nevcairiel | it might, depending on how heavy it is, and how fast it can accelerate |
| 21:28.29 | nebula | obviously you need to go test it, Stanzilla |
| 21:28.41 | Stanzilla | I have no train sorry |
| 21:28.54 | Stanzilla | (also no RC helicopter) |
| 21:29.01 | nevcairiel | you need a helicopter, not a train, those already drive around everywhere :p |
| 21:29.08 | Stanzilla | whaaaaat |
| 21:30.05 | znf | there, Stanzilla https://www.amazon.de/Carrera-370503001-2-4-GHz-Quadrocopter/dp/B00MLGB7VC/ |
| 21:30.38 | znf | even cheaper https://www.amazon.de/FPVRC-Quadcopter-Drone-modalità -senza/dp/B01M7Y0FRB/ |
| 21:30.46 | Stanzilla | that is pretty cheap indeed |
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| 21:32.44 | znf | well, then, you know what to do |
| 21:33.32 | znf | and before I ask - I don't have a train to test, but you germans have them everywhere |
| 21:33.42 | znf | s/I/you/ |
| 21:36.36 | Stanzilla | why dont you have trains in .ro |
| 21:44.24 | znf | We do. But mostly for "long distance" |
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| 21:58.19 | Stanzilla | perfect timing for the broken shore world boss again |
| 21:58.25 | Stanzilla | can do it twice on every toon \o/ |
| 22:02.28 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: does your addon temp. blacklist groups you left? |
| 22:03.32 | Antiarc | Stanzilla: it does |
| 22:03.55 | Stanzilla | ok then I was just unlucky :) |
| 22:04.12 | Antiarc | It should blacklist them until you've started a new WQ or complete the current one |
| 22:04.26 | Antiarc | Though if the leader changed it's possible the blacklist wouldn't catch it |
| 22:04.42 | Antiarc | and leaders tend to shift rapidly in some groups) |
| 22:04.49 | znf | tried netflix |
| 22:04.59 | znf | "your device is not compatible" bla bla on my device |
| 22:05.39 | Stanzilla | Antiarc: I was trying to get a group for the new world boss and some were still listed even though the boss was dead |
| 22:05.42 | Stanzilla | so I left a few |
| 22:05.48 | Stanzilla | would that count as starting a new wq? |
| 22:06.07 | Antiarc | Nope, the QUEST_ACCEPTED event does |
| 22:06.09 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 22:06.15 | Antiarc | Which fires when you stroll into range of a WQ |
| 22:06.25 | Antiarc | Server hopping doesn't fire it |
| 22:06.47 | Antiarc | If it was something like you zoned to a server that didn't have the boss up, then you left group and your server had the boss up, that MIGHT trigger it |
| 22:07.01 | Antiarc | I'll add some protections to the blacklist to only clear when the latest WQ ID changes |
| 22:07.36 | Antiarc | Oh, wait, nevermind |
| 22:07.45 | Antiarc | I did change that, it stores the last 10 groups joined and won't rejoin them ever |
| 22:07.54 | Antiarc | It doesn't wipe that cache anymore, just trims it to 10 entries |
| 22:08.13 | Antiarc | So it's possible that the leader changed, so the identifier I used for the group changed |
| 22:08.38 | Antiarc | https://github.com/cheald/WorldQuestAssistant/blob/master/core.lua#L82-L83 |
| 22:11.12 | Stanzilla | ah okay |
| 22:11.29 | Stanzilla | do you auto unlist groups when the quest objective is complete for the leader? |
| 22:13.45 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/eNeuPCD.jpg |
| 22:16.28 | znf | also: http://i.imgur.com/LG3dXc4.jpg |
| 22:16.39 | znf | it used to work a few months ago when I last used the feature |
| 22:21.02 | Antiarc | Stanzilla: No, it gets passed onto whoever is promoted to leader when you leave |
| 22:21.04 | Antiarc | (same as WQGF) |
| 22:21.24 | Stanzilla | was just an idea to combat stale groups |
| 22:21.28 | Stanzilla | in case the dude goes afk |
| 22:23.36 | Antiarc | For raids it's going to select the group with the number of members closest to 20 |
| 22:23.46 | Antiarc | Which uuuuusually self-corrects into an active group quickly |
| 22:23.57 | Antiarc | Selecting the largest group often found a dead boss |
| 22:24.22 | Antiarc | And after the boss dies the group empties out very fast so there's a brief window where it's going to be desirable but usually seems to plummet past that mark quickly |
| 22:25.00 | Stanzilla | makes sense |
| 22:25.17 | Gnarfoz | why is Antiarc's clone of WQGF a thing, btw? |
| 22:25.26 | Gnarfoz | does it do something fundamentally different or better? |
| 22:25.28 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: because I wrote it in the period that WQGF was dead |
| 22:25.45 | Gnarfoz | I must have blacked out, because I never experienced such a period |
| 22:25.45 | Antiarc | And the UI is better! And it can leave groups after quest completion automatically once you achieve flight |
| 22:25.51 | Antiarc | It was a short period, about 12 hours :V |
| 22:26.00 | znf | http://i.imgur.com/kBI1QrI.png - Guess I get only 720p from netflix |
| 22:26.03 | Antiarc | Blizzard rolled out that Thursday patch that protected group functions |
| 22:26.10 | Gnarfoz | good enough for chaud_ to plug it :P |
| 22:26.17 | Antiarc | The author rolled out a WQGF patch that said "It's dead, so long and thanks for all the fish" |
| 22:26.23 | Gnarfoz | whut? no he didn't |
| 22:26.32 | Gnarfoz | or, at least, I never got such a version |
| 22:26.37 | Gnarfoz | someone else recently claimed that... |
| 22:26.40 | Antiarc | He certainly did, lemme find it :) |
| 22:27.10 | Gnarfoz | I read about the protecting it at work and when I got home, it worked; so either way, it must have been a short period indeed ^^ |
| 22:27.15 | Gnarfoz | *them |
| 22:27.19 | Gnarfoz | anywho |
| 22:27.26 | Gnarfoz | I guess it detects the flying mount and then leaves? |
| 22:27.41 | Antiarc | Yup, v0.23 |
| 22:27.55 | Gnarfoz | (UI is better is arguable anyway; since they overprotected the shit out of it, both must require a ton of keypresses, or did you find a way to reduce that?) |
| 22:27.57 | Antiarc | WorldQuestGroupFinder.prefixedPrint("As of April 28th, Blizzard has blocked several Group Finder functions from addons. This unfortunately means that WQGF is now permanently broken. You can still use the in-game group finding tool to search for groups, by right-clicking on a World Quest in the objective tracker. Thanks you all for your support. It was fun. Robou (EU-Hyjal)") |
| 22:28.12 | Antiarc | Gnarfoz: It's one keypress to find a group, one to apply, one to accept |
| 22:28.16 | znf | well, now I'm pissed with netflix :-/ |
| 22:28.18 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 22:28.22 | Antiarc | But I have an automation keybind that does all that |
| 22:28.31 | Antiarc | So I just hit ctrl-g, ctrl-g, ctrl-g and I'm in a group |
| 22:28.40 | Antiarc | Or alt-g and I have a new group listed |
| 22:28.44 | Gnarfoz | I click the wqgf button 3 times and am in a group as well ^^ |
| 22:28.56 | Antiarc | Yeah, it's functionally the same, at the end of the day |
| 22:29.00 | Antiarc | Just small differences in behavior |
| 22:29.11 | Antiarc | But I wrote it and I like it so I keep using it! :) |
| 22:29.20 | Gnarfoz | sure sure :) |
| 22:29.24 | Gnarfoz | was just wondering |
| 22:29.41 | Gnarfoz | didn't realize wqgf proclaimed its own death for a little while, that explains it |
| 22:29.45 | Antiarc | They share groups and whatnot |
| 22:29.55 | Antiarc | So it's not like you're silo'd using one or the other |
| 22:30.04 | Gnarfoz | he got rid of the #wqgf tag in the group names a while back anyway, didn't he |
| 22:30.05 | Antiarc | I mostly just get to fix the things that annoyed me about WQGF now |
| 22:30.10 | Antiarc | No, it's there |
| 22:30.13 | Antiarc | It's in the description |
| 22:30.16 | Gnarfoz | even in the current version? hm |
| 22:30.31 | Gnarfoz | thought I read that in the changelog a couple of months back |
| 22:30.36 | Gnarfoz | maybe it was in the name originally |
| 22:30.53 | Antiarc | Not in the name, but the description indicates that it's a WQGF group with the quest ID, originating server PVE/PVP status, and WQGF version |
| 22:31.02 | Antiarc | I emulate that with quest ID and PVE/PVP status for compatibility |
| 22:31.54 | Antiarc | (also mine supports world quest bosses and I'm maintaining a list of quests that don't make sense to group in so it doesn't bother you!) |
| 22:31.55 | Gnarfoz | hmhmm. I guess I could look up what I'm thinking of in the version history, but I just spent the last 2 hours venting about work to a friend, and this would kind of feel like a continuation of that just on IRC (and a different topic) so I wont :D |
| 22:32.03 | Antiarc | Hah |
| 22:32.20 | Gnarfoz | weird how that feels similar |
| 22:32.30 | Gnarfoz | even though it's something different on paper |
| 22:32.48 | Gnarfoz | I should probably go to sleep so I can yell at people at work tomorrow |
| 22:32.59 | Gnarfoz | yell in a civilized manner |
| 22:33.12 | Gnarfoz | or just seethe silently |
| 22:33.48 | Gnarfoz | znf: I think I asked next door earlier, but: any experience with vulnerability scanners? or Metasploit? |
| 22:35.46 | znf | I dabbled in metasploit a few years ago, but I can't remember shit, so I'd be of no help |
| 22:40.07 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 22:41.14 | Gnarfoz | I find it weird that someone within the corporation (not sure what his position is and where) recommened it to our local IT boss to enumerate/scan for Windows hosts that a) exist and b) might need patching for WannaCry |
| 22:41.30 | Gnarfoz | the only thing I can think of is "wait, that's not the right tool for that" |
| 22:41.40 | Gnarfoz | but maybe it is and it does something else than I'm thinking it does |
| 22:42.07 | nevcairiel | why not just check for all windows hosts and enumerate the updates installed on them |
| 22:42.23 | Gnarfoz | and also "wtf, you're not running metasploit in the DMZ where most of our prod linux servers are, who the fuck knows what it'll do?!" |
| 22:42.37 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: well, with what, was the question they were asking |
| 22:42.47 | Gnarfoz | because fuck knowing which systems we operate! |
| 22:42.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:43.21 | nevcairiel | get some dude writing some powershell magic |
| 22:43.29 | Gnarfoz | it really shouldn't be that hard to find all Windows servers we run, but apparently there's still no consolidated place to look that up |
| 22:44.01 | Gnarfoz | well, if all of them were in (one of) our AD(s), it'd be easy to list all member servers, but there probably are non-AD machines |
| 22:44.14 | nevcairiel | in other news, I just noticed that one of my home theater speakers was out of polarity, i wonder how long ago i f'ed up the speaker wiring =p |
| 22:44.20 | Gnarfoz | it's really not my department, but as usual, I get roped into all kinds of stupid shit |
| 22:44.25 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 22:44.33 | Gnarfoz | I hope you noticed by looking at the terminals |
| 22:44.57 | nevcairiel | its not that easy, my speaker cables arent exactly red/black all over |
| 22:45.04 | Gnarfoz | (well, it actually could have an audible effect, but... did you?) |
| 22:45.07 | nevcairiel | they are clear with one side having a tiny marking |
| 22:45.57 | nevcairiel | and not like I noticed the difference, but a thread in the work forum was talking about polarity things, and I figured, hey lets grab a test case and see if i notice |
| 22:46.06 | nevcairiel | and i was like .. this "out of phase" file sounds better, wtf is up |
| 22:46.26 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 22:46.30 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 22:46.48 | Gnarfoz | you were explictly looking for it |
| 22:46.52 | nevcairiel | so i started checking the cabling, and my left front speaker was wrong =p |
| 22:47.06 | nevcairiel | but i still have 3 more speakers to check, but they are mounted to the wall, and i cba |
| 22:47.13 | nevcairiel | maybe tomorrow |
| 22:47.14 | Gnarfoz | hehe |
| 22:47.22 | Stanzilla | wrong as in your wired left to right? |
| 22:47.40 | Gnarfoz | if all of them are wrong, in sum, does it really matter? :P |
| 22:47.47 | nevcairiel | no |
| 22:47.58 | nevcairiel | but if some are wrong, it sounds weird |
| 22:47.59 | Gnarfoz | (that was more of a rhethorical one :D) |
| 22:48.17 | nevcairiel | although some people would probably claim that "absolute polarity" does matter |
| 22:48.25 | Gnarfoz | u wot m8 |
| 22:48.37 | nevcairiel | audiophiles are all sorts of crazy |
| 22:48.39 | Gnarfoz | speaking of which, have you seen this? http://www.biophotone-audio.com/ |
| 22:48.40 | Stanzilla | are those the same people that claim memcpy causes lag? |
| 22:48.57 | Gnarfoz | it's finest made in Germany audiophoolery |
| 22:49.05 | nevcairiel | Stanzilla: not switching left/right, that would be obvious and easy to test, but switching red/black on one speakers terminal |
| 22:49.46 | Stanzilla | I have no idea what that means but ok! |
| 22:50.01 | Gnarfoz | I think you he wanted to answer "yes" |
| 22:50.06 | Gnarfoz | -you |
| 22:50.19 | Gnarfoz | or wait, I'm too tired |
| 22:50.25 | Stanzilla | oh I get it now |
| 22:50.30 | Stanzilla | it is what I meant though |
| 22:50.40 | Gnarfoz | see, I thought you meant the same thing ^^ |
| 22:50.44 | Stanzilla | yea |
| 22:50.45 | nevcairiel | well if you have cheapo speakers which take like a normal stereo 3.5mm jack, you dont risk messing that up =p |
| 22:51.07 | Stanzilla | no but I dont call them by the colors, thats why I said left right |
| 22:51.09 | Stanzilla | but its the same |
| 22:51.11 | Stanzilla | red side etc |
| 22:51.30 | nevcairiel | well its not like there is an inherent side |
| 22:51.43 | nevcairiel | on my amplifier they are above each other! |
| 22:51.54 | nevcairiel | so color is key :) |
| 22:51.55 | Stanzilla | mine are like |
| 22:51.56 | Stanzilla | .. |
| 22:51.58 | Stanzilla | .. |
| 22:52.02 | Stanzilla | always a pair |
| 22:52.33 | nevcairiel | mine are also paired, but like the flipped version of yours, red/black on top of each other, channels next to each other |
| 22:52.45 | Stanzilla | yea |
| 22:52.56 | Stanzilla | I hate my audio setup |
| 22:52.59 | Stanzilla | 7.1 was a bad choice |
| 22:53.14 | nevcairiel | can just disconnect two speakers and have 5.1 =p |
| 22:53.19 | Stanzilla | YEAH WELL |
| 22:53.36 | Stanzilla | it's a huge pain in the ass to get workin in mpchc |
| 22:53.41 | Gnarfoz | I just hate that mine have a nice solid hum whenever the amp is on |
| 22:54.15 | Gnarfoz | (also they're placed around the TV, but they're not hooked up to the TV) |
| 22:54.46 | Stanzilla | same here |
| 22:54.47 | Gnarfoz | rear speaker placement is always annoying |
| 22:55.02 | Gnarfoz | I should really just say fuck it and drill some holes |
| 22:55.49 | Gnarfoz | (that'd not really the correct way though, I think they should be facing the sofa, at least somewhat... but that way they'd be facing straight forward) |
| 22:55.54 | nevcairiel | my setup is pretty neat, with the only exception that it only works properly when powered by a PC, because I don't have a AV Receiver but a USB DAC and an amplifier, so if I ever want to watch shit streamed to the tv directly or like an amazon firetv stick, out of luck |
| 22:56.01 | Gnarfoz | I'd need some kind of shim to angle them |
| 22:56.10 | Gnarfoz | exactly |
| 22:56.13 | Gnarfoz | same here ^^ |
| 22:56.34 | nevcairiel | if you do have an AV Receiver you can use shit like HDMI ARC or something, but those devices drove me mad with their issues and whatnot |
| 22:57.04 | Gnarfoz | I did put an HDMI cable under the carpet and across the room, and obsessed about MPCHC UHD upscaling, but I don't use it. just streaming shit with Plex over 3 meters is more convenient |
| 22:57.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 22:57.19 | nevcairiel | still didnt buy a UHD TV |
| 22:57.28 | Gnarfoz | was a wrong buy for me as well |
| 22:57.36 | nevcairiel | maybe next year, hopefully with HDMI 2.1 by then |
| 22:57.46 | Stanzilla | I use my mainboard's onboard sound card which is probably a problem |
| 22:57.59 | Gnarfoz | but I had my doubts that a 1080p at ~2.5m distance would look ok |
| 22:58.15 | Gnarfoz | but I can't even really tell between 720p and 1080p most of the time |
| 22:58.17 | Gnarfoz | let alone UHD |
| 22:58.22 | nevcairiel | I would've possibly bought this year, but HDMI 2.1 solves some limitations that annoyed me before I had one =p |
| 22:58.24 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: why so? |
| 22:58.36 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: dunno |
| 22:58.41 | *** join/#wowace Repo (~repo@69.85.223.171) |
| 22:58.50 | Stanzilla | my #1 problem is that the voices in movies are waaaay to quiet |
| 22:58.54 | Stanzilla | and everything else is super load |
| 22:58.59 | Stanzilla | so mid channel is wrong or so |
| 22:59.00 | Gnarfoz | unless it's really obviously terrible and you're using the outputs on the back, it should be ok from a quality PoV |
| 22:59.11 | nevcairiel | that sounds more like a config or wiring problem |
| 22:59.13 | Gnarfoz | oh, well, that does sound like some kind of misconfiguration, though you were talking about quality |
| 22:59.37 | nevcairiel | the quality on modern motherboards is ok, they apply shielding and whatnot to isolate it from interference |
| 22:59.37 | Stanzilla | quality was assumed bad, but yeah |
| 22:59.38 | Gnarfoz | are you sure you're using the wrong jacks, for example? some use really badly colored plastics |
| 22:59.39 | Stanzilla | like I said |
| 22:59.44 | Stanzilla | took me ages to get somethign working on mpc hc |
| 22:59.53 | Gnarfoz | err... "not using" |
| 22:59.53 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:01.11 | Stanzilla | https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B000VFEMI0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=schwidesphoen-21 |
| 23:01.30 | nevcairiel | I have a "pro" audio device which has a louder output level then most soundcards, which has the benefit of allowing me to use the amp on a lower setting, so it doesnt amplify the noise floor as much, and I don't get any noise when no sound is playing :) |
| 23:01.38 | Gnarfoz | hm, I don't recall audio setup being particularly complicated; I spent more time on understanding the seemingly weird default 0.71 values for downmix |
| 23:02.34 | nevcairiel | audio config is pretty easy, well, i guess it depends what you really want |
| 23:02.55 | nevcairiel | mpc-hc doesnt really do much upmixing of audio from stereo to 5.1/7.1 |
| 23:03.06 | Stanzilla | mine looks like this https://i.imgur.com/FXPLj3Y.png |
| 23:03.26 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/XrV5Pzq.png |
| 23:03.37 | Stanzilla | I kinda mapped every extra channel to something that exists |
| 23:03.38 | Gnarfoz | hm right, upmixing from 2.0 to 5.1 or something was always an annoying point; I recall that from back in Hannover, when I had the speakers permanently connected and actually used them during the day |
| 23:04.31 | nevcairiel | I intentionally don't do upmixing shit in LAV (or any advanced processing), I figured some day maybe someone would step up and make a decent audio processing filter, but alas =p |
| 23:04.48 | Stanzilla | that's my lav https://i.imgur.com/hJn9u4P.png |
| 23:04.52 | Stanzilla | not sure if correct /shrug |
| 23:05.03 | Gnarfoz | I had some custom driver for my emu10k1/sblive/audigy back then |
| 23:05.07 | Gnarfoz | that was awesome |
| 23:05.19 | Gnarfoz | but... yeah, idk when I last saw a sound card |
| 23:05.40 | nevcairiel | you should probably keep the "convert output to standard channel layouts" thing checked, it doesnt affect most of the files, but when it does you'll thank me =p |
| 23:06.03 | Gnarfoz | actually I do, my mom's PC had one until I replaced my old Athlon64 3000+ she was using with my slightly newer Core 2 Duo E6750 ;D |
| 23:06.36 | Stanzilla | okay |
| 23:06.37 | Stanzilla | anything else? |
| 23:06.39 | nevcairiel | the last "sound card" i had was this special asus card that could add audio to hdmi signals before video cards actually learned to do that |
| 23:06.42 | Gnarfoz | because the onboard audio on the old mb was fried |
| 23:08.14 | Gnarfoz | I'm not sure if it's the mainboard she currently uses or the old one that had that neat... dolby? or dts? (integrated into nforce mainboard chipset) that could actually upmix game sound and output it digitally |
| 23:08.31 | nevcairiel | i forgot how this mpc-hc custom matrix thing worked, its probably not smart enough to really be useful and I would personally not use it at all |
| 23:08.42 | Stanzilla | what else to use then? |
| 23:08.49 | nevcairiel | what do you need it for? |
| 23:08.55 | Stanzilla | blurays and music |
| 23:09.01 | nevcairiel | what for? |
| 23:09.09 | Gnarfoz | I think he (ab?)uses it for upmixing |
| 23:09.12 | Gnarfoz | not sure if that's what it's for |
| 23:09.15 | Stanzilla | without any upmixing the boxes were not used |
| 23:09.17 | Stanzilla | so yeah upmixing |
| 23:09.29 | nevcairiel | you havent exactly checked things for upmixing |
| 23:09.50 | Stanzilla | I always did it this way, never over LAV |
| 23:09.57 | Stanzilla | the question is which method is better |
| 23:10.19 | nevcairiel | the way you currently use the mpc-hc matrix thing, its largely pointless and I would just turn it off |
| 23:10.29 | Stanzilla | but it works :o |
| 23:10.33 | nevcairiel | its not actually doing any upmixing |
| 23:10.52 | Stanzilla | well it does 5.1 => 7.1 |
| 23:11.03 | Stanzilla | by assigning the channels so back gets copied to side |
| 23:11.09 | nevcairiel | kind of, but that upmixing is the most pointless to have =p |
| 23:11.17 | nevcairiel | stereo to 5.1 is whats important, if anything |
| 23:11.23 | Stanzilla | well the alternative is 2 unused boxes |
| 23:11.38 | Gnarfoz | shouldn't you just use the "mixing" tab in LAV, check enable mixing, pick 7.1 from the dropdown, done? |
| 23:11.51 | nevcairiel | that doesnt upmix, it just adds empty channels =p |
| 23:11.53 | nebula | you probably have all of them next to each other anyway! |
| 23:11.59 | Gnarfoz | oh well |
| 23:12.17 | Stanzilla | nebula: no, all positioned properly! |
| 23:12.24 | Gnarfoz | if the mpchc matrix thingy doesn't do it |
| 23:12.28 | Gnarfoz | and lav doesn't |
| 23:12.38 | Gnarfoz | you know what's next! :D |
| 23:12.44 | nevcairiel | unfortunately stereo to 5.1 is also the hardest, just cloning channels around often sounds a bit odd |
| 23:13.00 | nevcairiel | (which is what the matrix thing there does) |
| 23:13.05 | Stanzilla | well it works, it's just that mid/voice is a bit too quiet |
| 23:13.52 | Stanzilla | which I would have to confirm again, I havent watched a movie on that in ages |
| 23:13.56 | Stanzilla | since anydvd broke |
| 23:14.01 | pompy | http://www.spacex.com/webcast 7 mins |
| 23:14.12 | Stanzilla | ^boring |
| 23:14.20 | Gnarfoz | well, I doubt you should enable "normalize" and "regain" and "400%" |
| 23:14.22 | pompy | no |
| 23:14.26 | nevcairiel | i just got the new anydvd, the alternative is even worse and i need it =p |
| 23:14.37 | Gnarfoz | IIRC all of those are fucking with volume levels |
| 23:15.01 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: yeah that was from a test, I think it was disabled |
| 23:15.04 | Stanzilla | dont remember tbh |
| 23:15.09 | Gnarfoz | k |
| 23:15.19 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: how much is it these days |
| 23:15.40 | nevcairiel | 100⬠lifetime or something |
| 23:15.45 | Gnarfoz | I have no idea what I have an optical drive for |
| 23:15.45 | Stanzilla | damn son |
| 23:15.57 | Stanzilla | I actually buy blurays |
| 23:16.09 | Gnarfoz | even the handful of (mostly) concert BDs I have, I just download a quality rip of, easier to handle |
| 23:16.22 | nevcairiel | I got a discount last year because I had an old license |
| 23:16.33 | nevcairiel | not sure if they still do that |
| 23:16.42 | Gnarfoz | fuck all of their copy protection and DRM shit forcing me through hoops |
| 23:17.00 | nevcairiel | thats where anydvd and makemkv comes in =p |
| 23:17.05 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 23:17.09 | Gnarfoz | pompy: no landing attempt? |
| 23:17.09 | Stanzilla | without anydvd nothign would work |
| 23:17.14 | Gnarfoz | at least not on the timeline |
| 23:17.23 | nevcairiel | i hope anydvd cracks uhd protection :) |
| 23:17.24 | Gnarfoz | also, is it a re-used booster? |
| 23:17.35 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: supposedly, someone did |
| 23:17.52 | nevcairiel | i read that, but its unclear if it was maybe from another source |
| 23:17.54 | Gnarfoz | but if they actually did, why pick "The Smurfs 2" to do it on... |
| 23:17.55 | Stanzilla | I hope someone crack anydvd |
| 23:17.58 | Stanzilla | that is more important :D |
| 23:18.10 | nevcairiel | do you have no shame! |
| 23:18.14 | Stanzilla | no! |
| 23:18.19 | Gnarfoz | I found it fishy, I bet they had some different source or an accidentally unencrypted one or whatever |
| 23:18.36 | nevcairiel | and yeah odd choice to use as the first |
| 23:19.06 | Gnarfoz | (I'm not buying anydvdhd to rip my own blurays, that seems even more bananas) |
| 23:19.17 | Stanzilla | which is why I always cracked it |
| 23:19.21 | Stanzilla | but that stopped working |
| 23:19.43 | Gnarfoz | I mean, as long as there's someone else out there to do it |
| 23:20.04 | Gnarfoz | if I was a regularly buying BDs left and right, I might |
| 23:20.09 | Stanzilla | I dont want to rip them |
| 23:20.10 | Stanzilla | just play |
| 23:20.15 | Stanzilla | I dont have the space to rip everything |
| 23:20.18 | nevcairiel | I do buy BDs regularly |
| 23:20.27 | nevcairiel | although not as much recently |
| 23:20.38 | Gnarfoz | same tbh, but can't even do THAT without something expensive because licensing |
| 23:20.44 | Stanzilla | ye |
| 23:20.55 | Stanzilla | anydvd was perfect as long as the crack worked :D |
| 23:21.03 | Gnarfoz | anyway, it's not like I have some elaborate home theater setup |
| 23:21.12 | Gnarfoz | so clutch everything it is |
| 23:21.56 | Gnarfoz | the stream audio has weird bubbly sounds on it, who set those compression parameters |
| 23:22.00 | Gnarfoz | @pompy |
| 23:22.00 | pompy | Semlar: rumbling |
| 23:22.59 | pompy | yeah a bit |
| 23:24.02 | pompy | 32 minute mission |
| 23:24.03 | Gnarfoz | http://www.biophotone-audio.com/Unsere-Produkte/ nevcairiel how about a nice 100⬠stainless steel disc to improve your audio experience?! |
| 23:25.14 | Gnarfoz | or the 150⬠one made out of glass |
| 23:25.17 | nevcairiel | that sounds like those stones I saw someone selling |
| 23:27.48 | Gnarfoz | or the 4.5 kg "diamond" for 300⬠|
| 23:27.59 | Gnarfoz | which has a 'settling in phase' of 1 week |
| 23:28.00 | Gnarfoz | lolwut |
| 23:28.29 | Stanzilla | here's a part of my professional setup https://i.imgur.com/hbgTM8H.png |
| 23:28.36 | Stanzilla | the socket fell out of the wall one day :( |
| 23:28.39 | Gnarfoz | in some way, many people are in the business of making money off of people who don't know better, but that shit is just ridiculous |
| 23:29.05 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: seems legit, my sat/radio/cable socket doesn't have a cover at all |
| 23:29.09 | nevcairiel | this stuff should be so obviously fraudulent, but some idiots still buy it |
| 23:29.11 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 23:30.08 | Gnarfoz | lol, "chair cleaner" harmonizer for 150⬠to put below your listening chair |
| 23:30.20 | Gnarfoz | so the music isn't disturbed by... my farts? |
| 23:30.33 | nevcairiel | its crazy how fast these rockets get to orbit |
| 23:30.40 | nevcairiel | i cant even walk to the train station in that period |
| 23:30.58 | Gnarfoz | going to space is all about speed |
| 23:31.18 | Gnarfoz | just lift doesn't get you anywhere, speed is key |
| 23:31.26 | Gnarfoz | so whoosh it is! |
| 23:31.49 | Gnarfoz | and yeah, also shows how little separates us from space |
| 23:31.51 | nevcairiel | of course, the more speed you have the lower orbit you need to not fall down anymore |
| 23:31.59 | quiescens | o.o |
| 23:32.30 | Gnarfoz | 100 km is the official height limit for "space" right now, but humans can't survive at even 1/10th of that |
| 23:32.46 | nevcairiel | thin air will sufficate you =p |
| 23:33.05 | Gnarfoz | so it's kind of ridiculous how thin the layer is that everything we know happens in |
| 23:33.35 | quiescens | gives Gnarfoz a cookie |
| 23:34.11 | Gnarfoz | a shame that it's unlikely we're going to see enough of a leap in the relevant tech to learn about even the existence of anything similar to our little planet |
| 23:34.20 | Gnarfoz | (in our lifetimes, that is) |
| 23:34.36 | Gnarfoz | maybe we'll see a leap extending our lifetimes, but I doubt that as well :p |
| 23:35.22 | Gnarfoz | we can't even figure out nuclear fusion :P |
| 23:35.31 | nevcairiel | who knows where tech will take us in the next 50 years, although it feels like stuff has slowed down |
| 23:36.31 | Gnarfoz | I mean, it hasn't even been 10 years since the smartphone as we know it took off, so there's still room for some more life changing things |
| 23:36.54 | Gnarfoz | but I fear they might be similarly irrelevant to human progress :D |
| 23:37.51 | nevcairiel | i hope autonomous cars will actually be a thing |
| 23:38.10 | Gnarfoz | that'd be nice |
| 23:38.34 | nevcairiel | preferably even banning manual driving eventually, although that'll be a hard sell =p |
| 23:38.49 | Gnarfoz | one would think that'd happen eventually |
| 23:39.11 | Gnarfoz | limit manual driving to tracks or whatever |
| 23:39.12 | nebula | it'll probably always have to be available for emergency situations |
| 23:39.13 | nevcairiel | maybe even get rid of personally owned cars and invent some sort of personal public transport |
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| 23:39.31 | Gnarfoz | there'd probably be less emergency situations |
| 23:39.31 | nevcairiel | summon a small car to take you places |
| 23:40.26 | Gnarfoz | several movies a while back had things like that |
| 23:40.33 | Gnarfoz | at least one tom cruise one |
| 23:40.40 | Gnarfoz | I don't know which ones they were, though ^^ |
| 23:40.40 | nevcairiel | yeah its a common future view |
| 23:40.42 | znf | I'd *kind* of like to have all-automatic driving cars |
| 23:40.50 | znf | but I do enjoy driving aimlessly once in a while |
| 23:41.08 | Gnarfoz | well, you could "get driven around aimlessly" ^^ |
| 23:41.40 | znf | I could, yes |
| 23:41.53 | znf | but I also like to break the law and go at high speeds during the night |
| 23:42.09 | znf | doubt I'll be able to do that :D |
| 23:42.14 | znf | I like the adrenaline |
| 23:42.22 | Gnarfoz | well, that's exactly why we need to remove human drivers from the roads ;p |
| 23:42.26 | nevcairiel | so does the tree, when it drips out of you onto it |
| 23:42.36 | znf | last time the tree kind of won |
| 23:42.41 | Gnarfoz | see? :p |
| 23:42.42 | nevcairiel | trees always win |
| 23:42.50 | Gnarfoz | trees are pretty baller |
| 23:42.55 | Gnarfoz | they just don't give a fuck |
| 23:43.02 | znf | yeah, damn thing barely shed some bark |
| 23:43.12 | znf | still alive today |
| 23:43.57 | Gnarfoz | also, neither do trains |
| 23:44.20 | nevcairiel | trains do break and disrupt all sorts of schedules |
| 23:44.21 | Gnarfoz | train vs. lorry today, lorry lost |
| 23:44.30 | znf | trains are winners by default |
| 23:44.33 | znf | that kinetic energy... |
| 23:44.47 | nevcairiel | not sure if a train could derail from hitting a car of a lorry |
| 23:44.56 | znf | car probably not |
| 23:44.58 | nevcairiel | s/of/or/ |
| 23:44.59 | Gnarfoz | news article said "it only stopped 300m after the crossing" like that's a lot |
| 23:45.03 | znf | lorry, I've seen *some* accidents |
| 23:45.10 | Gnarfoz | I was like "wtf, that's not much? it was going 160 km/h!" |
| 23:45.13 | nevcairiel | 300m is pretty good |
| 23:45.30 | nevcairiel | considering you dont have that much grip with a metal wheel on a metal rail |
| 23:45.46 | Gnarfoz | in this case, it didn't derail, but it's not unheard of I think |
| 23:46.14 | Gnarfoz | luckily, "only" the truck driver was killed |
| 23:46.22 | Gnarfoz | wasn't even his fault |
| 23:46.43 | Gnarfoz | something about construction and a manually operated.... err |
| 23:46.50 | Gnarfoz | thing |
| 23:47.10 | znf | I swear to god, something keeps breaking my fucking SuperSU |
| 23:47.11 | nevcairiel | two friends of mine are volunteer fire fighers, they always get called when some poor sod got hit again, not sure why thats fire fighter job to clean up dead guy from the railroads, but shrug |
| 23:47.14 | Gnarfoz | barrier, apparently? |
| 23:47.27 | znf | I think it's the Magisk installer |
| 23:47.37 | Gnarfoz | that sounds like a Pokemon |
| 23:48.01 | znf | nah, some Android stuff that's supposed to hide root and stuff from apps |
| 23:48.17 | znf | for some reasons it removes the su binaries |
| 23:48.24 | Gnarfoz | well, I don't have root so... nothing to hide (hah) |
| 23:48.35 | znf | but I'm left with adb shell spawning a root shell |
| 23:48.38 | Gnarfoz | maybe it does that temporarily as one of the ways to "hide" it? |
| 23:48.50 | znf | could be, I can't actually install it |
| 23:49.00 | znf | when I hit the install button, it says it can't detect the boot partition |
| 23:49.04 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 23:49.04 | znf | and it fails |
| 23:49.07 | nevcairiel | is it also hidden? |
| 23:49.26 | znf | and then suddenly, no more su binary |
| 23:49.31 | znf | also, this takes fucking forever to fix |
| 23:49.45 | Gnarfoz | if I read chainfire's post recently correctly, root for my S7 w/ Android 7 isn't properly possible |
| 23:49.49 | nevcairiel | i gave up on rooting my phones ages ago, not really anything I would really want to do |
| 23:50.00 | znf | because for some reasons, the supersu.zip doesn't want to install in recovery |
| 23:50.03 | nevcairiel | with modern phones it gets kinda tr icky anyway |
| 23:50.16 | znf | there are *some* things I would like to have root for |
| 23:50.17 | Gnarfoz | (unless you force it to not encrypt... but if it ever does, you're fucked) |
| 23:50.25 | nevcairiel | usually suck running some old-ish custom rom with even more lagged updates |
| 23:50.31 | znf | like background youtube playback |
| 23:50.37 | znf | adblocker in apps |
| 23:51.02 | znf | mostly Xposed features |
| 23:51.07 | znf | those are neat |
| 23:52.06 | Gnarfoz | I think the only thing I miss being able to do right now is show actual LTE band |
| 23:53.26 | znf | I haven't been rooted in over a year |
| 23:53.30 | znf | but I do miss some things |
| 23:54.44 | Gnarfoz | considering I can barely think of anything, I can't say it's a real problem right now |
| 23:55.08 | Gnarfoz | "package disabler pro" covers all my debloating needs |
| 23:55.59 | Gnarfoz | which I think just abuses some kind of device administrator functionality |
| 23:56.03 | nevcairiel | only thing I would probably do with root is disable ipv6 |
| 23:56.09 | Gnarfoz | oh yes |
| 23:56.11 | nevcairiel | although maybe the s8 fixed it, i should test that |
| 23:56.18 | Gnarfoz | shit why did you have to remind me of that |
| 23:56.22 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 23:56.45 | nevcairiel | i still wonder if its AVMs fault maybe, all phones from varying manufacturers I've had suffered from that problem to some degree |
| 23:57.05 | Gnarfoz | although I think it's currently enabled... hm. maybe I've just gotten used to it showering me with a bunch of notifications when I pick it up (because it wakes up and gets working connectivity suddenly) |
| 23:57.27 | nevcairiel | I've had worse behavior, I would pick it up and it took ages to even get connectivity again |
| 23:58.06 | Gnarfoz | oh btw |
| 23:58.20 | Gnarfoz | I mentioned that 1&1 notified me they'd be doing another "Netzumstellung" thing? |
| 23:58.37 | nevcairiel | what they do? |
| 23:58.38 | Gnarfoz | I now have a non-DTAG ipv6 prefix, I think |
| 23:58.44 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 23:58.46 | Gnarfoz | and a different erm |
| 23:58.49 | znf | apparently my router doesn't do PPPoEv6 |
| 23:58.52 | Gnarfoz | the thing that changed last time |
| 23:58.58 | nevcairiel | PoP? |
| 23:58.59 | Gnarfoz | I forgot what it's called |
| 23:59.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah I think |
| 23:59.15 | znf | ...unless I swap to LEDE, which doesn't have hardware nat, so I wouldn't be able to do more than ~480Mbit/sec |
| 23:59.17 | Gnarfoz | name format changed again and it suggests it's now in Stuttgart |
| 23:59.34 | nevcairiel | maybe 1&1 is moving to more of their own infra |
| 23:59.43 | Gnarfoz | yep that was my assumption as well |
| 23:59.53 | Gnarfoz | (I forgot what it was before the first change) |
