IRC log for #wowace on 20170611

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00:26.14Stanzillaall maps in unranked, rotation in ranked
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00:56.28znfhttp://cheezburger.com/2377989/keeping-up-with-the-kattarshians-a-cat-reality-show-in-iceland?bypassCache=true
00:56.31znfwe have peaked as a species!
00:58.04znfI started the night by helping a friend parse a website
00:58.36znftelling him to just curl around
00:58.42znfended up writing a python parser for him :-/
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02:13.19Gnarfozneat, 3x AP elite strike mission from one command center ^^
02:13.33Gnarfoz(and 2x nether shards, and 1x resources)
02:14.36Gnarfozwtb legendary item with mission time reduction... one for each of my guys :P
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05:33.30ls-pcmoo ):3
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10:38.11EthanCentauraiGood morning! o/
10:38.36Megalongluten morgen
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13:08.16FiskerWhy does europe have to suffer, Stanzilla?
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15:25.56znffucking hots matchmaking
15:25.58znf2 healers vs 0
15:28.21quiescensgives znf a minor healing potion
15:31.09Megalonburst them down, gg :)
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16:24.06nevcairielmaybe you should stop making bad teams znf
16:24.27znfbut I don't make them...?
16:24.36nevcairielso dont complain
16:24.37nevcairiel:p
16:24.56znfmatchmaking is making them!
16:27.39quiescensyou should totally multibox your own team
16:27.58quiescensnodnod
16:31.56znfyou can't play the same hero :P
16:31.58znfor I would!
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19:58.44p3limcurse.com has the option to "Install via Curse Client", there is no such thing
20:04.03Funkeh`you can poke Zeldo but he's been afk for weeks
20:17.19nevcairielare you complaining about the naming now? =P
20:19.49znfyes!
20:30.25Gnarfozhuh
20:30.26GnarfozTIL http://i.imgur.com/oTfhL7e.png
20:30.31Gnarfozis that new-ish?
20:31.34Gnarfozalso, finally got fed up and nuked the volume control on my headset
20:31.41nevcairieli barely ever visit t hose interfaces
20:31.51Gnarfozthe crackling from the worn out potentiometer was getting on my nerves
20:31.58Gnarfoz(been that way for a couple of years now)
20:32.22nevcairielmine doesnt have that selector
20:32.30nevcairielmaybe its from your audio driver
20:32.37Gnarfozhmmm interesting
20:32.49Gnarfoz(right-click on the control, if that wasn't obvious)
20:33.12nevcairieloh yeah it shows then
20:33.22nevcairieli wonder if it changes the scaling as well
20:33.42nevcairielor if the percentage scaling is actually logarithmic as well
20:33.57Gnarfoz50% is -10 dB
20:34.02Gnarfoz0% is -55
20:34.04Gnarfozso I'd say so
20:34.12nevcairielmost percetage volume scales are .. wrong, in not being logarithmic
20:34.29nevcairielso if you have to turn it down a lot, you like move between 5 and 20%
20:34.36nevcairielif even that
20:34.44Gnarfoz-5 dB is ~71%
20:34.58Gnarfozseems nonlinear to me ^^
20:35.49Gnarfozwhat good is Windows Sonic again? not at all, probably? ^^
20:36.23Gnarfoz(or, well, probably requires >2 channel input)
20:36.26nevcairieli barely ever use headphones,  so no experience how good it works
20:36.35nevcairielbut its pretty new, came with 1703
20:36.36nevcairielhttps://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/mt807491(v=vs.85).aspx
20:36.52Gnarfozone thing I can say is that it takes a lot of time to turn on/off
20:37.25Gnarfoz5 seconds or so, makes it hard to tell if anything changed ^^
20:38.02nevcairielapparently it needs app support to make use of those
20:38.21nevcairielfor both atmos and sonic
20:38.43Gnarfozyeah, just reading that page
20:39.15nevcairielkinda neat that the WASAPI API actually supports spatial audio now, that may come in handy at s ome point
20:45.09p3limnev, I can't complain on your decision on the whole client, but I can complain about inconsistencies :)
20:45.24Gnarfozalso interesting that you can just use old and new together and it'll just work
20:45.42p3limalthough I will say I don't agree on the direction of curse atm
20:46.02Gnarfozwhat's that?
20:49.09Gnarfoz(also, nev doesn't work for Curse)
20:49.32Funkeh`curse doesn't choose the direction of curse
20:49.35Funkeh`amazon does
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20:49.42Gnarfozas if
20:49.43nebulaoh please
20:49.48Gnarfozthat's not how things work :p
20:49.54nebulaamazon bought them because of the direction they took
20:50.02Funkeh`yeah right
20:50.08Funkeh`curse made the client to get bought
20:50.17Gnarfozthat's not what he said
20:50.18nebulathey've been working on voip for like 7 years
20:50.32Funkeh`sure they have
20:50.47Gnarfozmaybe you haven't used Curse Voice, but it sure has existed a long time now
20:50.52nebulai mean, curse voice has been around forever
20:51.04nebulathey targeted league of legends hard with it
20:51.05p3limI don't know a single soul that uses the curse client for anything else than updating addons
20:51.09Funkeh`you and I have different definitions of forever
20:51.10p3limsorry, the twitch client
20:51.31Gnarfozwell, that's because you're from this particular crowd
20:51.37nebuladev time on something for almost ten years may as well be forever in tech
20:51.58Gnarfoznevcairiel: I wonder if I should have used some kind of oxygen-reduced, part-diamond solder... I bet I'm going to audiofool-hell for just soldering across the pot's pins. :P
20:52.18Funkeh`10 years? wowace wasn't even part of curse until 2008
20:52.37Stanzillacurse voice was an old project that was put on hold and then picked up again when the whole DDOSing prominent streamers thing started
20:52.37nebulafirst curse voice came out around 2010
20:53.13nevcairielGnarfoz: i'm s ure audiophools have all sorts of reasons to  complain, but dont ask me, i dont solder often =p
20:53.21Gnarfozhehe
20:53.39Gnarfozpart-diamond solder would be kind of dumb, considering diamond's thermal properties
20:54.44nevcairielnot sure there even exist that many different decent soldering materials
20:55.06p3limonly 3 that I am aware of myself
20:55.08nevcairielits a pretty specific set of properties you need
20:55.08Gnarfozthere's a variety
20:55.19p3limtwo of which I've used
20:55.26Gnarfozor, well, variety of mixes
20:55.45Gnarfozwords are hard
20:55.51nevcairielmelting at the right temperature, quickly hardening again, and maybe a decent strength once that happened
20:56.42nevcairielmost common are just some mixtures of tin and lead
20:58.57nevcairielnot sure why you would ever come up with diamond though, its also an electrical insulator =p
21:00.09Megalonbecause it sounds posh and nice and quality
21:00.32nevcairieljust use liquid gold
21:00.46Gnarfozbecause audiophools, of course
21:00.56nevcairielgold plated connectors is all the rage
21:01.03nevcairielor maybe even something like titanium!
21:01.03nevcairiel:D
21:01.32Gnarfozjust go straight to unobtainium
21:01.46nevcairielspeaking of diamonds, i wonder where i put my diamond TIM
21:03.08nevcairielits good that industrial diamonds are cheap =p
21:04.39Gnarfozwhat's the W/mK of that anyway?
21:04.53nebulai wonder why they renamed beam to mixer, beam makes more sense to me
21:05.46Gnarfozwho are they, and what is beam/mixer?
21:05.52nevcairielGnarfoz: 4.5 W/m-K according to their own spec sheet
21:05.57nebulaoh, it's microsoft's twitch
21:06.03Gnarfozah, that beam
21:06.08GnarfozI tried using that once
21:06.14Gnarfozbecause it boasted super low latency
21:06.40GnarfozI think I couldn't get it to work properly
21:06.47Gnarfoznevcairiel: wow, that's... low oO
21:07.15Gnarfozor maybe it's just realistic and everyone else is boasting
21:07.16Gnarfoz:P
21:07.31nevcairieli tried to find some references from others, but couldnt find data
21:07.45Gnarfozthe paste I use between heatsink and IHS claims 12.5 W/mK
21:08.15Gnarfoznot to mention the one now between IHS and die, which claims 73 W/mK, but well, it's liquid metal ^^
21:08.41Gnarfozbut 4.5 seems awfully low for something going as far as including diamonds
21:10.03nevcairielits hard to judge these numbers if the measuring conditions are not identical
21:11.17nevcairielwhich one did you use?
21:12.29GnarfozThermal Grizzly Conductonaut for die/ihs and Kryonaut for ihs/cooler
21:12.57nevcairieloff to youtube for comparison videos!
21:13.23Gnarfozhttp://forums.pureoverclock.com/cooling/14262-thermal-compounds-roundup.html#post86921 has some numbers, but who knows where they got them
21:14.22nevcairielthey tested the IC7 and IC24 with different results ... its the same paste, just different amounts. i vote invalid
21:14.37Gnarfozyeah, I saw that
21:14.38GnarfozxD
21:18.07nevcairieli dont know what the thermal grizzly stuff is made of, but one bonus of the IC Diamond is that its non-conductive and  doesnt dry out, but i guess many aftermarket ones have those properties
21:19.33Gnarfozhttps://www.computerbase.de/2004-01/test-neun-aktuelle-waermeleitpasten/ too old :\
21:19.48nevcairiellol 2004
21:19.48Gnarfozliquid metal shouldn't dry out, but it's conductive as hell ^^
21:22.18Gnarfozhttps://www.computerbase.de/2016-03/scythe-thermal-elixer-2-waermeleitpaste-in-zweiter-revision-leistungsfaehiger/ yeah lets use an imperial number so it's comparable to nothing at all. wtf
21:22.38nevcairielhaha
21:22.52nevcairielthey translated it
21:23.33Gnarfozgoing to assume that's Scythe's doing
21:24.02nevcairielfirst comprehensive test have thermal grizzly and ic diamond on the same performance level, just liquid metal paste better, but thats quite tricky for the main thermal paste
21:24.42Gnarfozwhy is someone liking my tweets from that little fight with Panser? that was November last year
21:25.50nebulayou should obviously follow them /nod/nod
21:32.53nevcairielGnarfoz: do you actually have to roughen the silicon when applying liquid metal to it, or  does that somehow work without that?
21:33.29Gnarfozno, just cleaning it
21:33.52nevcairielwhen applying it between spreader and coolers, you are supposed to roughen up the surfaces so the metal sticks
21:34.02nevcairielso just wondering
21:34.28Gnarfozpossibly, but it stuck to it pretty ok, I'd say
21:35.04Gnarfoztakes some getting used to since it has very high surface tension
21:35.17nevcairielthe roughness probably helps breaking that up
21:35.20Gnarfozso it kind of doesn't want to spread or get off whatever too you're using
21:35.36Gnarfozbut it "just worked" ^^
21:36.02Gnarfozactually, it stuck to the inside of the IHS more readily than the die, but just barely
21:36.24Gnarfoz(and like I said, I'm not using it between IHS and heatsink, so I have no experience with that part)
21:37.42GnarfozI was kind of amazed how reflective the cleaned die was
21:38.05Gnarfozmy camera actually focused on whatever was in the reflection
21:38.52nevcairielmagic silicon :d
21:39.06Gnarfozonly realized after I was done that I didn't take any pics with the new paste in place
21:44.26nevcairieleverytime i build a new system i want to take pictures, and in the heat of building it, i forget
21:45.13nevcairielmaybe i'll remember in a couple weeks when its that time again
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21:56.32znfslaps Stanzilla for testing
21:56.52Stanzilla?
21:57.02znfnothing
21:57.04znfjust testing some crap
21:58.36znfthis stupid irc bot is getting on my nerves today, nothing special
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22:01.09znfStanzilla, *test*
22:01.14znfbah.
22:02.31znffor some reasons it's not creating a brain file in this channel
22:04.00nevcairielcant learn how to manage a brain from you, apparently =p
22:04.20Megalonyou need to have one to create one
22:04.22Megalon8)
22:04.52znfhaha, funny
22:10.32znfthe original author wrote it in python3, and it's broke-ish under 2.7
22:10.50znftest
22:10.54znfmeh, worked now
22:15.38nebulai mean, run it with python3?
22:18.00znfthen I would have to make sure the rest of the plugins work under python3, which is not always the case
22:18.28znfeasier to fix one to run under 2.7 than fix 10 to run under 3.0
22:19.19nebulaif the main program is python3, why do people right plugins for not python3
22:19.26nebulawrite even
22:19.55znfthe bot runs on both 2.7 and 3
22:20.10znfthe core is flexible
22:20.21znfplugins... not so much
22:20.27znfI write and test only with 2.7
22:20.34znfsome people write and test only with 3 :P
22:29.03EthanCentaurai>busu Leeds, UK
22:29.04Catal1naWeather for Leeds, United Kingdom | Temperature: 16°C; Humidity: 63%; Conditions: Partly cloudy; Wind: Wsw, 21kph; Updated: 9 mins, 3 secs ago | Forecast for Sunday: Clear; High of 20°C; Low of 10°C | Forecast for Monday: Overcast; High of 18°C; Low of 9°C | Forecast for Tuesday: Partly cloudy; High of 21°C; Low of 11°C
22:45.01Stanzillaanthem looks nice
22:46.30Gnarfozanthems are for listening
22:48.22nebulameh
22:48.48Gnarfoz>busu
22:48.49Catal1naweather [--current|--forecast|--all] [US zip code | US/Canada city, state | Foreign city, country]
22:49.04Gnarfozeverything not in the US is foreign
22:49.11nebuladuh
22:50.26Stanzilla>busu 82064
22:50.27Catal1naError: No such location could be found.
22:50.30Stanzilladick
22:50.38Stanzillaznf: usuck
22:50.52znfhuh?
22:50.59nebula>US< zip code, gah
22:51.01Gnarfoz>busu FKB
22:51.02znfzip code only works for US
22:51.03Catal1naWeather for Karlsruhe / Baden-Baden, Germany | Temperature: 22°C; Humidity: 73%; Conditions: Clear; Wind: Sw, 10kph; Updated: 31 mins, 2 secs ago | Forecast for Monday: Chance of rain; High of 25°C; Low of 11°C | Forecast for Tuesday: Clear; High of 26°C; Low of 13°C | Forecast for Wednesday: Clear; High of 28°C; Low of 15°C
22:51.03Stanzillafix it to work with any zip codes
22:51.05Stanzillayes
22:51.06Stanzillafix it
22:51.14Gnarfozat least airport codes work
22:51.17znfgo ask https://www.wunderground.com/
22:51.21znftheir API
22:51.25nebula>busu MSP
22:51.27Catal1naWeather for Minneapolis-Saint Paul International, MN | Temperature: 23°C; Humidity: 81%; Conditions: Overcast; Wind: Ese, 21kph; Updated: 58 mins, 25 secs ago | Forecast for Sunday: Chance of a thunderstorm; High of 26°C; Low of 19°C | Forecast for Monday: Mostly cloudy; High of 31°C; Low of 21°C | Forecast for Tuesday: Chance of a thunderstorm; High of 33°C; Low of 22°C
22:51.30Stanzilla>busu MUC
22:51.32Catal1naWeather for Muc, Albania | Temperature: 18°C; Humidity: 64%; Conditions: Clear; Wind: North, 0kph; Updated: 1 min, 30 secs ago | Forecast for Monday: Clear; High of 29°C; Low of 16°C | Forecast for Tuesday: Clear; High of 31°C; Low of 18°C | Forecast for Wednesday: Clear; High of 32°C; Low of 19°C
22:51.36StanzillaFFS
22:51.38Gnarfozbahahaha
22:51.39nebulalol
22:52.19znf>gif I don't know
22:52.21Catal1nahttps://media3.giphy.com/media/K6VhXtbgCXqQU/giphy.gif
22:58.41EthanCentaurai>busu 90210
22:58.43Catal1naWeather for Beverly Hills, CA | Temperature: 19°C; Humidity: 63%; Conditions: Clear; Wind: Wsw, 14kph; Updated: 7 mins, 41 secs ago | Forecast for Sunday: Clear; High of 21°C; Low of 13°C | Forecast for Monday: Clear; High of 21°C; Low of 13°C | Forecast for Tuesday: Clear; High of 22°C; Low of 15°C
23:05.56EthanCentaurai>busu znf
23:05.58Catal1naError: No such location could be found.
23:46.16Gnarfozlol http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=265455&p=4054536 I thought erorus worked for them (kind of) ^^
23:46.27Gnarfozguess that doesn't stop him from also being fed up with their shit ^^
23:48.24znflol
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23:51.43nebulahe stopped working for them at the beginning of the year sometime
23:51.56nebulahe's the undermine journal guy, right?
23:52.07Gnarfozyea
23:54.57znfwait, does chromie die, like, forever? :(
23:55.01znfor you can save her?
23:55.14quiescensspoilers o.o
23:55.35nebulai just read the promo, and you're suppose to find out what's fucking with the timeline so she doesn't die before she's suppose to
23:55.49znfchromie must never die!
23:55.53znfI like chromie

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