| 00:00.00 | Torhal | At least Farscape got a two-part wrapup. |
| 00:00.00 | Torhal | Didn't close all the threads, of course, but it was better than *poof* gone. |
| 00:01.09 | znf | they're too busy making "Lavantula" |
| 00:02.12 | Gnarfoz | there must be some early-days Googler that massively cashed out, who's also a Star Trek and Babylon 5 fan who can bankroll DS9+VOY+B5 blu-ray conversion >_> |
| 00:02.36 | Gnarfoz | plenty of rich nerds around |
| 00:03.33 | znf | or, "Krypton" |
| 00:03.41 | znf | because that's what we fuckign need |
| 00:03.46 | znf | more superman shit |
| 00:04.37 | znf | >tv hyperion |
| 00:04.39 | Catal1na | Hyperion SOON (In Development). Next Episode: not yet scheduled. http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/28176/hyperion |
| 00:04.54 | znf | sounds promising, just don'get attached for more than 2 seasons |
| 00:05.14 | znf | a lot of In Development shows |
| 00:05.16 | znf | on SyFy |
| 00:09.05 | znf | eh, who cares about shows when WW3 is about to start? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-asia-41375302 |
| 00:39.44 | ls- | meh, I live relatively close to the place and I'm not entertained, dunno why Europeans or Americans freak out so much |
| 00:41.56 | Torhal | Probably because they aren't threatening to bomb you every five minutes. |
| 00:42.57 | ls- | well, it depends, USA is threatening to bomb the shit out of NK, the rest of Asia will suffer too :p |
| 00:43.40 | ls- | although I don't think China will allow it |
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| 01:12.22 | quiescens | moo |
| 01:13.10 | ls- | moo ):3 |
| 01:13.23 | quiescens | gives ls- a cookie |
| 01:13.35 | ls- | refuses |
| 01:13.43 | Torhal | genetically modifies quiescens to "baa" instead. |
| 01:16.06 | quiescens | o.o |
| 01:16.36 | ls- | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3c0JgZ59QQ |
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| 04:43.33 | znf | ls-: world wars affect everyone |
| 04:44.16 | znf | literally the world :P |
| 04:44.21 | ls- | meh... |
| 04:46.33 | znf | ls-: https://i.imgur.com/wvfze3i.jpg |
| 04:47.36 | ls- | to me this whole WW3 hysteria is yet another Amurican war campaign to launder money, I won't be surprised if there's oil or another important resource on NK land :p |
| 04:49.58 | ls- | "it's not us, it's them who are bad so we had to bring peace and democracy" kind of stuff :p |
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| 06:16.56 | Fisker | I miss Torhal |
| 06:17.37 | Torhal | Your marksmanship ever at fault. |
| 06:17.44 | quiescens | o.o |
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| 07:42.30 | Stanzilla | ola |
| 07:54.28 | quiescens | moo |
| 08:14.51 | Torhal | refuses to believe in quiescens. |
| 08:22.22 | quiescens | ): |
| 08:23.03 | Torhal | Self-resurrecting cow-men make me question my sanity. |
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| 08:49.03 | Stanzilla | just drink more |
| 08:49.05 | Stanzilla | it will all make sense |
| 08:50.19 | Torhal | ...noi? |
| 08:53.12 | Torhal | Speaking of shit not making sense; I've spent over an hour trying to figure out why code that works in ARL and ARL: Alchemy doesn't work in ARL: Cooking. |
| 08:53.35 | Torhal | I'm just going to go ahead and blame Semlar. |
| 08:54.15 | Semlar | maybe it's not being loaded |
| 08:54.21 | Semlar | or loading in a different order |
| 08:54.25 | Torhal | o.O |
| 08:54.43 | Torhal | I'm ditching localization for NPC names - tooltip-scraping then saving to SVs. |
| 08:55.05 | Torhal | Everything is working _except_ for the tooltip scraping for NPC names. |
| 08:55.16 | Torhal | Same fucking code in ARL, ARL: Alchemy, and ARL: Cooking. |
| 08:55.22 | Torhal | The first two work. |
| 08:55.25 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 08:55.43 | Torhal | Only thing not working in Cooking is the scraping. |
| 08:55.46 | Torhal | Makes no sense. |
| 08:56.17 | Semlar | well, the tooltips won't be populated the first time you run it, are you taking that into account |
| 08:56.40 | Torhal | Yes. As I said - it works just fine in two of the three cases. I even nuked my SVs and the other two populate with data. |
| 08:57.08 | Torhal | I thought perhaps it was a throttling issue, but Alchemy is grabbing more than Cooking. |
| 08:57.31 | Semlar | are you running it on different NPC IDs? |
| 08:57.43 | Torhal | And when I say same code, I mean the same exact function - not a copy/paste version. |
| 08:57.48 | Torhal | Yeah, many. |
| 08:58.49 | Semlar | maybe there's a problem with the IDs you're trying to use |
| 08:59.03 | Torhal | Hundreds of them? :) |
| 08:59.05 | Torhal | None are working. |
| 08:59.22 | Semlar | alright, let's see the code |
| 08:59.29 | Torhal | Though I did grab a few and look 'em up on WoWHead. |
| 08:59.34 | Torhal | They exist. |
| 09:02.48 | Torhal | Semlar: https://www.wowace.com/paste/5e474b39 |
| 09:04.13 | Semlar | add something to make sure this init function is running |
| 09:04.17 | Torhal | Modules have their SVs registered as "namespaces" in the main SV file, so that isn't the issue - Alchemy and Cooking have the same codepath for that. Yet only Alchemy is working. |
| 09:04.36 | Torhal | It is - all the data _except_ for the name is there. The name shows as "Unknown" as it should when the scraping gives nothing. |
| 09:05.29 | Torhal | This is some weird-ass shit. |
| 09:05.35 | Semlar | you can't be getting the name without using a callback function |
| 09:05.44 | Torhal | ? |
| 09:05.59 | Semlar | the first time you call this, it won't work |
| 09:06.06 | Semlar | unless the npc is already cached |
| 09:06.12 | Torhal | Oh, no - it will be Unknown initially. A reload should show it because it's being saved in SavedVariables. |
| 09:06.42 | Torhal | Basically, if the SVs don't contain the name, scrape it and if it isn't nil or "" store it in SVs. |
| 09:07.03 | Torhal | Nothing is being stored for Cooking, just for the core and Alchemy. |
| 09:07.10 | Semlar | it might never work if you're counting on it after a /reload |
| 09:07.22 | Torhal | Huh? |
| 09:07.39 | Torhal | It works just fine - just not in that specific case. |
| 09:07.41 | Semlar | you can't just set the tooltip to a unit and try and scrape it, and if that fails the first time, reload and try it again |
| 09:07.49 | Semlar | it could never work |
| 09:07.59 | Torhal | Yes, but not for hundreds of them. |
| 09:08.29 | Torhal | And I'll be using a getter after the changeover is done so it'll keep trying and not permanently show Unknown. |
| 09:08.35 | Semlar | it could also easily break if you're trying to use the same tooltip for each one of these calls |
| 09:08.42 | Torhal | Right now I'm just in the "Get rid of hand-made localizations" phase. |
| 09:08.55 | Semlar | are you creating separate tooltips or just using the same one |
| 09:09.00 | Torhal | It isn't breaking on the other two cases, which have a fuckton of NPCs. |
| 09:09.14 | Torhal | And they aren't all being called at the same time - the modules are loaded after the fact when they're needed. |
| 09:10.05 | Torhal | I delete my SVs. I try with Cooking loading only, and all I get are the ones the Core pulls. I nuke again, try Alchemy. I get bot Core and Alchemy in my SVs. |
| 09:10.10 | Semlar | i wrote something that does this exact same thing in the warlords beta for my rare tracker |
| 09:10.13 | Torhal | both* |
| 09:10.34 | Semlar | i had to make sure the tooltip was actually being set multiple times because the first run failed silently |
| 09:10.57 | Torhal | But why would this only fail for one case, repeatedly, but always work on the others? |
| 09:11.08 | Semlar | because they're already cached? i don't know |
| 09:11.24 | Semlar | you say this is running, but the only thing that's failing is getting the name |
| 09:11.29 | Torhal | Yes. |
| 09:11.38 | Semlar | so the issue has to be with your GetNPCNameFromID(npcID) function, which you didn't put here |
| 09:11.57 | Torhal | It's the same exact function - same instance in memory. |
| 09:12.19 | Torhal | When I load a profession module: module.GetNPCNameFromID = private.GetNPCNameFromID |
| 09:12.32 | Torhal | So Alchemy and Cooking have the same exact function. |
| 09:13.22 | Torhal | My thinking at this point is to just store everything in the core's SVs since that's obviously working. |
| 09:13.24 | Semlar | you *know* that the issue is that function, so you have to figure out why it isn't working in this particular instance |
| 09:13.55 | Torhal | Like I said, I'll just blame you. |
| 09:14.16 | Semlar | if you think your tooltip scraping function should be working, then it's probably a loading order problem |
| 09:15.01 | Semlar | but personally, i don't see how this could work without a callback function based on my tooltip scraping experience |
| 09:15.14 | Semlar | the data won't necessarily immediately be available |
| 09:15.59 | Torhal | Works just fine, but won't show everything in the current session because I'm not using the function yet. What is cached is obviously set, and what isn't will be set on a /reload |
| 09:16.16 | Torhal | But for Cooking and Cooking alone, nothing is set. |
| 09:16.53 | Semlar | what does your GetNPCNameFromID(npcID) function look like |
| 09:17.55 | Torhal | https://www.wowace.com/paste/ce73d2ff |
| 09:19.21 | Semlar | did you try changing _G.UNKNOWN to some other placeholder here just to make sure you didn't accidentally overwrite this function call somehow |
| 09:20.06 | Torhal | There isn't an overwrite - just assigning module.GetNPCNameFromID = private.GetNPCNameFromID |
| 09:20.25 | Torhal | But yeah, I did a _G.UNKNOWN .. " the WAT" and it started showing that in Cooking. |
| 09:23.10 | Semlar | try reducing the list to one npc? |
| 09:23.55 | Torhal | I actually did - I stopped grabbing the names there and instead set it as a dummy. |
| 09:24.19 | Torhal | In the display code, I did: recipe.Profession:Module():GetNPCNameFromID(trainer.identifier) |
| 09:24.22 | Torhal | Still got Unknowns. |
| 09:24.35 | Torhal | And nothing in SVs. |
| 09:25.20 | Torhal | I forgot the important step: I only hovered over a recipe that had one trainer. |
| 09:26.16 | Torhal | Still, doesn't make sense because Alchemy has 135 trainers and Cooking only has 91. |
| 09:26.46 | nebula | sure it isn't something silly like cooking's ids are strings? |
| 09:27.07 | Torhal | They aren't. Even if they were, they're being string.formatted into a string. |
| 09:27.11 | Torhal | So either way would work. |
| 09:27.40 | nebula | considering the other two work, i'd assume it's something with cooking's db |
| 09:28.01 | nebula | have fun! :D |
| 09:28.06 | Semlar | my guess is self.db.locale.npcNames doesn't exist for the cooking module |
| 09:28.14 | Torhal | That's what I would normally think except for the fact that the DB is controlled by the core when a profession is loaded - all modules have the same codepath. |
| 09:29.12 | Torhal | https://www.wowace.com/paste/f3d4ccf8 |
| 09:30.06 | quiescens | nerf torhal |
| 09:30.22 | Torhal | raid quiescens. |
| 09:30.54 | Torhal | Oh, this is interesting |
| 09:31.16 | Torhal | Cooking DOES get populated. By the Mob Drop init code. |
| 09:31.23 | Torhal | Not Trainer or Vendor, though. |
| 09:31.26 | Torhal | So no, not a DB issue. |
| 09:32.58 | Semlar | it has npcNames in the sv file? |
| 09:33.09 | Semlar | populated somewhere else? |
| 09:33.19 | Torhal | https://www.dropbox.com/s/vr3720cs3asvcjc/Screenshot%202017-09-24%2004.33.13.png |
| 09:33.29 | Torhal | Every one of those is from the MobDrop init. |
| 09:33.52 | Torhal | Mah brainz. |
| 09:38.40 | Torhal | Original paste: https://www.wowace.com/paste/5e474b39 MobDrop paste: https://www.wowace.com/paste/0dd58f73 |
| 09:38.56 | quiescens | \o/ |
| 09:39.23 | Torhal | Same goddamn code. |
| 09:39.31 | Torhal | Dafuq. Multiplied by quiescens. |
| 09:41.37 | Torhal | I'd blame nebula but he was all "have fun! :D" and then noped the fuck out. |
| 09:41.56 | quiescens | have fun ^^ |
| 09:42.16 | Torhal | I've never seen you nope the fuck out, quiescens. Die? Sure. Never the other. |
| 09:44.10 | Semlar | just do it right torhal |
| 09:45.17 | Torhal | Holy shit, Semlar! Thanks! The thought never occurred to me! This whole time, I was all "I'll do this the way znf would do it." |
| 09:45.33 | Semlar | go to sleep |
| 09:45.39 | nebula | you haven't asked Gnarfoz for help, though |
| 09:45.46 | Torhal | Can't - shift ended 2.75 hours ago. |
| 09:45.58 | Torhal | I don't want Gnarfoz to be all condescending to me, though, nebula. |
| 09:46.11 | nebula | germans. |
| 09:46.55 | Torhal | I actually didn't ask for help here, though. I just complained about something not making sense and Semlar went all drill-instructor on me. Figured it couldn't hurt. :D |
| 09:47.25 | Semlar | you said it was my fault it wasn't working |
| 09:47.32 | Torhal | Yeah, I did. |
| 09:47.39 | quiescens | gives semlar a cookie |
| 09:47.42 | quiescens | there there o.o |
| 09:47.49 | Semlar | this better have drugs in it |
| 09:47.50 | Torhal | I thought you'd mumble something about mushrooms and wander off, though. |
| 09:48.18 | Semlar | it's like sleep o'clock |
| 09:48.25 | quiescens | i think znf is in a mumbling about mushrooms phase if you want to ask znf |
| 09:48.32 | Torhal | Don't attract hurricanes, Semlar. |
| 09:48.38 | Semlar | too late |
| 09:48.40 | Torhal | :/ |
| 09:48.48 | Semlar | my milkshake brings call the hurricanes to florida |
| 09:48.58 | Semlar | i'm irresistable |
| 09:49.00 | Torhal | Better than Cthulhu. |
| 09:50.18 | Torhal | Semlar: Out of curiosity - you mentioned a callback. I was just going to use the GetName function directly instead of storing the initial result on the object. What would the callback be responding to? |
| 09:51.17 | Semlar | i don't remember whether it fired OnTooltipSetUnit or if i just periodically checked it for data |
| 09:51.22 | Torhal | I mean, having Unknown show up the first time in a session is no biggie and likely wouldn't happen much since the initial call is on module load. |
| 09:51.41 | Torhal | Ah, okay. |
| 09:51.46 | Semlar | i'm pretty sure i was watching for an event, and also had a backup timer in case it just never populated the tooltip |
| 09:51.55 | Semlar | so it would time out |
| 09:52.02 | Semlar | but i also spawned a separate tooltip for each unit i was checking |
| 09:52.12 | Semlar | if i was checking a number of them |
| 09:52.13 | Torhal | Ouch. |
| 09:52.47 | Torhal | Though in my case it would be a one-time cost so spawning hundreds of tooltips would be fine. Next time the AddOn was loaded it wouldn't happen. |
| 09:53.08 | Semlar | you might limit it to a max number in each batch |
| 09:53.38 | Semlar | just do a certain number at a time |
| 09:54.53 | Semlar | i remember an issue with using a single tooltip and trying to immediately set it to a new unit, it wouldn't cache it |
| 09:55.02 | Semlar | but i don't know if that's necessarily still a problem |
| 09:55.19 | Torhal | Doesn't seem to be for Alchemy! |
| 09:55.39 | Semlar | but those mobs are possibly already in your game's cache |
| 09:55.42 | Semlar | if you aren't deleting it |
| 09:56.02 | Semlar | not your saved variables, but the game cache |
| 09:56.04 | Torhal | I actually did on one sweep to see if that was the issue. |
| 09:56.18 | Torhal | I nuked both. |
| 09:56.26 | Torhal | Alchemy and Core populated after reloading. |
| 09:56.41 | Torhal | I think quiescens dropped his dirty cookies in there. |
| 09:56.47 | Semlar | certain mobs could behave differently too, are you sure it's fully populating them |
| 09:57.11 | Semlar | have you tried just setting the alchemy code to use the cooking data |
| 09:57.12 | Torhal | I'm not seeing Unknown when scrolling down the list. |
| 09:57.17 | Torhal | No |
| 09:57.29 | Semlar | just to rule out any possibility that it's the data set |
| 10:06.13 | Torhal | I'm going to have to try that - I just went directly to a few of the Cooking trainers and still get nothing. |
| 10:11.53 | Torhal | Yeah, there's something way fucked. Just pasted Yan Ironpaw from the Cooking trainers into the Alchemy trainers and BOOM. There he is in the SVs. |
| 10:14.53 | Semlar | does your cooking module load earlier in the loading process or something |
| 10:16.03 | Torhal | It loads on demand like all the other modules. |
| 10:16.38 | Torhal | And all the other data in the init function is present afterward. |
| 10:17.39 | Torhal | So it isn't cache, it isn't DB (because MobDrop init populates), and the code is pretty damn identical in all the inits. All modules pass through the same codepath in Core... |
| 10:17.51 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 10:21.25 | Semlar | well there's only one thing you can do |
| 10:21.43 | Semlar | delete the addon and start over |
| 10:22.26 | nebula | it's been awhile since you've rewritten it, sounds like it's time |
| 10:23.43 | Torhal | nebula: I've never actually rewritten it. It's been a vast series of refactorings. |
| 10:24.03 | Torhal | NPCScan? I threw that the fuck away and didn't even use the old code for reference. |
| 10:24.11 | nebula | tomatoes tomatoes |
| 10:24.25 | Torhal | NPCScan was a rewrite. |
| 10:24.31 | Torhal | ARL is turd-polishing. |
| 10:24.38 | Torhal | It's pretty damn shiny. |
| 10:24.48 | nevcairiel | that tomato thing really doesnt work in written text |
| 10:25.09 | Torhal | Could be better. I actually thought about starting over so I can actually meld it with Collectinator since they are both divergent twins. |
| 10:25.20 | nebula | you're telling me you didn't automatically change the pronunciation? |
| 10:25.26 | nevcairiel | no i did not |
| 10:25.35 | nevcairiel | it onlny occured to me afterwards |
| 10:25.39 | nebula | heh |
| 10:25.55 | Torhal | I refuse to work on Collectinator now because I work on ARL so much more that every time I look at Collectinator I think "Fuck. I already rewrote this shit once." |
| 10:26.17 | nebula | you haven't trained ressy well enough to do it? |
| 10:26.33 | nevcairiel | maybe you sh ould throw collectinator away and add the data to arl! |
| 10:26.40 | Torhal | I'll put it this way: While I was on sabbatical from AddOn coding, she tried ARL in the 7.3 PTR. |
| 10:26.50 | Torhal | Afterward, she decided to completely fucking remove all PlaySound code. |
| 10:26.59 | Torhal | I reverted the commit and fixed it yesterday. |
| 10:27.07 | nevcairiel | sounds, who needs em |
| 10:27.33 | Torhal | It was a matter of looking for the API changes and then making them. |
| 10:27.35 | Torhal | :D |
| 10:28.03 | Torhal | Two commit messages: |
| 10:28.15 | Torhal | Revert "Ripping out sound code, bugged in 7.3. ARL doesn't need sound effects." |
| 10:28.16 | Torhal | Fix restored sound code to work with the WoW 7.3 API because fixing shit is always better than saying ¯\_(ã)_/¯ and ripping it out. |
| 10:28.24 | Torhal | >.> |
| 10:29.11 | nevcairiel | i know devs like that, thats typically the kind that make "Continued" type of addons |
| 10:29.38 | Torhal | ...and if you look at the code, it's full of commented out shit. |
| 10:29.53 | nevcairiel | comments are version control! |
| 10:29.56 | Torhal | Hah |
| 10:30.53 | nevcairiel | even some people at work do that, comment out stuff because maybe we need it again, i'm like, thats what we have version control for |
| 10:31.08 | Torhal | Really, though, I think if anything I'd just start from scratch with both datasets in mind and then do a force-push to Collectinator. |
| 10:31.30 | Torhal | Atomic commits with concise commit messages > coment this shit out. |
| 10:31.49 | bluspacecow | not that it's hard to fix PlaySound code |
| 10:32.02 | quiescens | gives blu a cookie |
| 10:32.13 | Torhal | It's changing a string to a table field at the least. |
| 10:32.19 | Torhal | And she knows where to find the API change notes. |
| 10:32.34 | Semlar | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.37 | bluspacecow | just go through the code for every PlaySound reference and change whatever its calling to it's soundID |
| 10:32.40 | Torhal | I think she was just pissed because she wanted stuff and I said "I'm not touching AddOns right now, and Collectinator ever." |
| 10:32.52 | bluspacecow | oooo |
| 10:32.55 | bluspacecow | so edgy |
| 10:32.58 | Torhal | lol |
| 10:33.02 | bluspacecow | why you gotta be so edgy! |
| 10:33.37 | Torhal | I'm a goddamn hater, bluspacecow. |
| 10:33.42 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 10:33.50 | Semlar | the print function is where my callback would have gone |
| 10:33.52 | bluspacecow | i'm not even an addon author |
| 10:34.01 | nebula | needs more kittens |
| 10:34.02 | bluspacecow | and that's how I fixed the reminder of my playsound bugging addons |
| 10:34.17 | Torhal | bluspacecow: That's why I said I think she was just pissed. That was definitely something she could have done with relative ease. |
| 10:34.38 | bluspacecow | altough I'm not sure why I use Cellular instead of WIM |
| 10:34.45 | Torhal | I'm just glad she did it in an atomic commit instead of doing a bunch of other shit as well. |
| 10:37.50 | Torhal | nebula: I'm good on kittens, thanks. |
| 10:38.07 | Semlar | are you running low on cats torhal? |
| 10:38.13 | Torhal | No. |
| 10:38.28 | Semlar | i know a guy |
| 10:38.32 | Torhal | Me? |
| 10:38.40 | Semlar | oh, right |
| 10:38.42 | Torhal | :D |
| 10:39.36 | Torhal | Thanks for the paste, BTW, Semlar - but I definitely have something else other than cache collisions going on since that Cooking trainer magically showed up when I slapped it into the Alchemy trainer code. |
| 10:40.42 | Torhal | Also: Why QUEST_TIMEOUT when you aren't scraping quest tooltips? |
| 10:40.50 | Torhal | Oh, right - you adapted it from something else. |
| 10:41.18 | Semlar | i recycled something i wrote for scraping quest tooltips |
| 10:42.21 | Semlar | this was something i needed rare names for so i could plug them into /target macros |
| 10:42.43 | Semlar | but i never finished the addon this was going to be for |
| 10:42.50 | Torhal | Heh |
| 10:43.12 | Torhal | bluspacecow: BTW - using the SOUNDKIT table fields is more grokkable than the straight-up ID. |
| 10:43.21 | Semlar | it was basically what handynotes is now |
| 10:43.58 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Seeing 840 doesn't evoke any understanding. Using SOUNDKIT. IG_CHARACTER_INFO_CLOSE does. |
| 10:44.09 | bluspacecow | TIL Torhal runs on cats |
| 10:44.14 | Semlar | except with a 3d hud thing for tracking rares |
| 10:44.18 | Torhal | No, I stand on cats while _they_ run. |
| 10:44.23 | bluspacecow | TorhalTech , powered by cats |
| 10:45.52 | Torhal | bluspacecow: https://twitter.com/_torhal_?lang=en |
| 10:46.46 | bluspacecow | Torhal!Beard is love |
| 10:46.59 | Torhal | lol |
| 10:47.19 | quiescens | o.o |
| 10:47.49 | *** join/#wowace Megalon (~wig0r@212-60-175-179.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 11:38.54 | *** join/#wowace Myrroddin (~psvan@S010600fc8df0e0b3.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 11:39.45 | Myrroddin | aloha |
| 11:40.04 | Torhal | covers Myrroddin in quiescens' cookies. |
| 11:40.18 | Myrroddin | mmmm cookies |
| 11:40.32 | Torhal | signs Myrroddin over as a Ward of bluspacecow. |
| 11:40.42 | Myrroddin | whaaaaaaa |
| 11:40.43 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 11:42.01 | Myrroddin | LOL been so long since I was on IRC I forget all the commands |
| 11:43.08 | Myrroddin | I blame Torhal |
| 11:43.20 | quiescens | /blame torhal |
| 11:44.56 | *** join/#wowace stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@213-47-49-27.cable.dynamic.surfer.at) |
| 11:44.56 | *** join/#wowace stolenlegacy (~stolenleg@unaffiliated/stolenlegacy) |
| 11:45.12 | Torhal | ~fiskerslap Myrroddin |
| 11:45.12 | purl | ACTION slaps Myrroddin around a bit with Fisker. |
| 11:45.36 | Torhal | ~8ball Is Myrroddin mentally fit to IRC? |
| 11:45.36 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 11:45.40 | Torhal | :O |
| 11:46.24 | Myrroddin | does some ninja demon hunter stuff |
| 11:46.38 | Torhal | ~whaleslap Myrroddin |
| 11:46.38 | purl | ACTION beats Myrroddin upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 11:47.03 | Myrroddin | o.O |
| 11:47.19 | Torhal | ~whalenuke Myrroddin |
| 11:47.19 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Myrroddin with his mind powers. |
| 11:48.09 | Myrroddin | um, purl, with my mind powers or the whale's mind powers? |
| 11:48.18 | Myrroddin | details, dammit! they matter |
| 11:49.30 | Myrroddin | puts Torhal on YouTube dancing the cha cha to death metal |
| 11:50.31 | Torhal | ~ping |
| 11:50.32 | purl | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 11:50.54 | Myrroddin | i bet you say that to all the ladies. "no packet loss" |
| 11:51.08 | Torhal | Uh. |
| 11:51.20 | Torhal | ~lart Myrroddin |
| 11:51.20 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down Myrroddin's throat until Myrroddin puts on 150lbs |
| 11:52.00 | Myrroddin | hmm. sounds like a typical Tuesday after patch |
| 11:52.14 | Torhal | Wait... not _during_ patch? |
| 11:52.38 | Myrroddin | nah, i'm either sleeping or coding during patch |
| 11:52.51 | Torhal | WAT |
| 11:52.55 | nebula | or apparently aquiring a large quanitity of donuts |
| 11:53.04 | Torhal | TIL Myrroddin codes whilst sleeping on Patch Day. |
| 11:53.15 | Torhal | This explains a great many things. |
| 11:53.17 | Torhal | >.> |
| 11:53.24 | Myrroddin | damn skippy! |
| 11:57.20 | Myrroddin | I know Torhal never sleeps. he has too many addons to work on |
| 11:57.40 | Torhal | I actually didn't do shit AddOn-wise for almost a year. |
| 11:57.58 | Torhal | After working 7-days-per-week for six months... |
| 11:58.20 | Torhal | I decided to A: Sleep. B: Catch up on TV shows. C: Sleep. |
| 11:58.34 | Myrroddin | lies. you were writing code in your head |
| 11:58.38 | Torhal | D: Drink. Because fuck you. |
| 11:58.53 | Torhal | lol |
| 12:00.18 | Myrroddin | well, i am going to sleep. and not code |
| 12:00.34 | Torhal | Lies. You'll write code in your head. |
| 12:00.35 | Torhal | <.< |
| 12:00.44 | Myrroddin | since my latest project isn't even public, i don't have to worry about people demanding it |
| 12:00.59 | Torhal | I'm in a mean mood tonight. |
| 12:01.08 | Torhal | I almost went: s/demanding/demeaning/ |
| 12:01.09 | Myrroddin | .... tonight?!? |
| 12:01.12 | nebula | "tonight" |
| 12:01.13 | Torhal | Well, yeah. |
| 12:01.19 | Torhal | BTW: Fuck you guys. |
| 12:01.26 | Myrroddin | LOL |
| 12:01.35 | Myrroddin | dammit Torhal, that's twice!! |
| 12:01.39 | Torhal | WAT |
| 12:01.49 | Myrroddin | not fair making me laughcough twice |
| 12:01.54 | Torhal | Heh. |
| 12:02.57 | Myrroddin | sells Torhal to Idahoan hippies |
| 12:03.13 | Torhal | sells Myrroddin to First Nation Scalpers. |
| 12:03.51 | Torhal | Yes, even while drinking I can invoke my cultural knowledge. |
| 12:04.12 | Myrroddin | I ought to sell you to Seattle coffee drinkers |
| 12:04.28 | Torhal | They'd have to come all the way to Alabama to collect me. |
| 12:04.36 | Torhal | And then I'd Hipster-shame their asses. |
| 12:05.25 | Myrroddin | omg. do you have vinyl led zepplin?? |
| 12:05.53 | Torhal | No, but my father does. He also has some newer vinyl releases thanks to me. |
| 12:06.18 | Torhal | And an actual record player because his died a few years back. |
| 12:06.41 | Torhal | When someone has over 2k albums on vinyl, you don't simply let them be unable to play them. |
| 12:06.47 | Myrroddin | sells Torhal's hair to weird al |
| 12:07.07 | Torhal | sells Myrroddin's code to Weird Al. |
| 12:07.37 | Myrroddin | o.O that means polka coloured status bars! |
| 12:08.02 | Myrroddin | actually, hmmm. I wonder why nobody has done that as a sharedmedia plugin? |
| 12:08.16 | quiescens | you should remedy that |
| 12:08.17 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Please tell Blizzard to fix the whole "I have WoW dedicated to a Space in macOS, so it crashes every fucking time I exit from it." bug, please. |
| 12:08.41 | Torhal | releases SharedMedia: Myrroddin |
| 12:08.55 | bluspacecow | not a bug. you can't run wow from outer space |
| 12:09.06 | Torhal | stabs bluspacecow with the ISS. |
| 12:09.07 | Myrroddin | hah! fooled you. I already have sharedmedia_classicalfonts |
| 12:09.12 | Myrroddin | so there, and take that! |
| 12:09.41 | Torhal | You don't understand - SharedMedia: Myrroddin would consist of a single texture - your face. A single sound - you laughcoughing. |
| 12:10.05 | Myrroddin | I love it! |
| 12:10.24 | Myrroddin | earns ALL the author reward points |
| 12:10.40 | Torhal | If I had several photos of you actually laughcoughing, I'm certain I could write an animation that syncs with the sound. |
| 12:10.43 | Myrroddin | just hand them over, fewl!! they are ALL mine now |
| 12:11.10 | Torhal | hands all of Stanzilla's points over to Myrroddin. |
| 12:12.47 | Myrroddin | brb. if you miss me, i am teaching sharks how to pole dance |
| 12:12.58 | Torhal | Myrroddin: Wait... |
| 12:13.17 | Torhal | You're teaching them how to pole-dance, or how to Pole-dance? |
| 12:13.29 | Torhal | This is very important. |
| 12:13.34 | Torhal | Don't fuck it up. |
| 12:13.36 | bluspacecow | that takes some skill. |
| 12:13.57 | bluspacecow | it's either on a pole or dancing using poles |
| 12:14.17 | Torhal | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with some Czechs. |
| 12:17.46 | Myrroddin | i'm back. apparently i have some problems with teaching sharks to pole dance. first, i can't teach them in alabama |
| 12:17.53 | bluspacecow | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hp0QL_uTnE |
| 12:18.00 | Myrroddin | second, they kept eating the Poles |
| 12:18.37 | Torhal | You should teach the sharks how to forge Czechs, Myrroddin. |
| 12:18.52 | Myrroddin | but that isn't legal! |
| 12:19.03 | Torhal | Oh, you're right - Pole dancing is. |
| 12:19.30 | Myrroddin | and if you are a shark, so is eating polish people apparently |
| 12:19.43 | Myrroddin | like they are sooooooooo entitled!! |
| 12:19.48 | Torhal | Dat shift key. l2use? >.> |
| 12:20.17 | Myrroddin | what, you telling me you don't polish people in alabama?? |
| 12:20.35 | Torhal | I'm certain that roughly 90% of people on IRC do not use proper capitalization and/or punctuation, but I felt extremely compelled to call you out. |
| 12:21.03 | Myrroddin | dammit, that's three!!! ow ow my sides hurt |
| 12:21.07 | nebula | this shit ain't formal writing |
| 12:21.10 | Torhal | >,> |
| 12:21.20 | Torhal | formalizes nebula in the fires of PHP. |
| 12:21.30 | Kalroth | what do u mean torhal i dont see that at all |
| 12:21.57 | Torhal | I'm absolutely certain I have no goddamn clue what the hell you're referring to, Kalroth. |
| 12:22.03 | Torhal | Rephrase, or GTFO. |
| 12:22.29 | Myrroddin | ahhhh now i remember why i missed irc |
| 12:22.53 | Kalroth | i think grammer and punctation makes irc hardr 2 read bcuz u have to reread stuf 2 get it |
| 12:23.09 | Torhal | wat u mean, u stnkn fkr? |
| 12:23.24 | Kalroth | eggactly! |
| 12:23.28 | Myrroddin | you can get irc? like an infection? |
| 12:23.49 | Torhal | I'm sorry, Myrroddin - I cunt hear you; I have an ear infucktion. |
| 12:23.56 | Kalroth | Myrroddin: most def |
| 12:24.03 | Myrroddin | i'm sure you do. very sure in fact |
| 12:24.56 | nebula | Torhal is a cunt, confirmed |
| 12:25.06 | Kalroth | cats carry a lot of diseases |
| 12:25.23 | Torhal | nebula confirmed for silly cunt. |
| 12:25.32 | nebula | the silliest of cunts |
| 12:25.35 | Torhal | :O |
| 12:26.30 | Myrroddin | Torhal tickles himself with barbed wire |
| 12:27.18 | Torhal | If you want to find out what's behind these cold eyes, you'll just have to claw your way through this disguise, Myrroddin. |
| 12:27.43 | Myrroddin | o.O |
| 12:27.59 | Myrroddin | didja really miss me in IRC, Torhal? ha ha ha |
| 12:28.10 | nebula | weren't you going to sleep? |
| 12:28.15 | Torhal | Myrroddin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lTiVgcYA_4 |
| 12:28.38 | Torhal | nebula: He was, but then I ambushed and totally clusterfucked him. |
| 12:29.36 | Myrroddin | and he led zepplined me too |
| 12:29.56 | Torhal | Correction: He went down like a lead zeppelin. |
| 12:31.22 | Myrroddin | shhhhh. tell no one! |
| 12:32.50 | Torhal | I told several people in several countries, just now. My bad. |
| 12:33.08 | Myrroddin | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elp15rnV5Kg |
| 12:34.04 | Torhal | OMFG. Shit that used to be awesome did not age well. |
| 12:35.19 | Torhal | Though, even as a small child I thought the whole "I'll fly around the Earth so fast that it spins in the opposite direction, thereby going back in time" thing was fucktarded. |
| 12:40.22 | Myrroddin | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_SFfriyUP0 |
| 12:57.42 | bluspacecow | https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20759156905 |
| 12:58.06 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 12:59.16 | Torhal | bluspacecow: ElvUI is teh cancarz. |
| 12:59.26 | Torhal | No idea why Myrroddin doesn't know that. |
| 12:59.48 | bluspacecow | I'm tempted to quip back with "Or ElvUI could stop being lazy and interact with nameplates in a sane way" |
| 12:59.52 | Myrroddin | who what why where? |
| 12:59.58 | bluspacecow | IE write your own god damn libary |
| 13:00.08 | Myrroddin | does it involve selling Torhal to eskimos? |
| 13:00.30 | Torhal | For years now, they've been doing batshit insane shit with the WoW UI code and their entire attitude has usually been "If you're using ElvUI, you use what we support." |
| 13:01.06 | Torhal | At one point, a couple of years ago, they actually goddamn forked Ace3 and broke a BUNCH of shit. I figured out what it was and called them out. |
| 13:01.17 | Torhal | They took my advice and renamed the library. |
| 13:01.30 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 13:01.36 | bluspacecow | but never removed their forking ? |
| 13:01.43 | Torhal | No, the Ace license allows it. |
| 13:02.05 | Torhal | They didn't rename the library, though, so anything using Ace3 was broken by LibSTub loading. |
| 13:02.12 | Torhal | LibStub* |
| 13:02.21 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 13:03.22 | Myrroddin | wait, there is Blizzard UI code that uses parts of Ace3? I did not know that |
| 13:03.26 | Myrroddin | which parts? |
| 13:03.27 | Torhal | No |
| 13:04.30 | Torhal | Myrroddin: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info21373-Toaster.html#comments - scroll to the bottom, then read upward. |
| 13:07.37 | Myrroddin | yeah, the gang at Zygor did/still do(?) the same thing |
| 13:07.45 | Torhal | o.O |
| 13:08.05 | Myrroddin | I've noticed it with ElvUI recently, since I have been using ElvUI for a month or two |
| 13:08.25 | Torhal | "Hey, community! BUY OUR SHIT!" followed by actions which actively shout "FUCK YOU, COMMUNITY! YOU'RE NOT MY DAD!" |
| 13:08.46 | Myrroddin | for example, if you create an options table that plugs into Elv's options like I have, then some AceConfig stuff is ... missing |
| 13:08.58 | Torhal | It isn't missing. |
| 13:09.04 | Torhal | It isn't Ace3 anymore. |
| 13:09.10 | Torhal | It's a fork from 2015. |
| 13:09.27 | Myrroddin | like I cannot put the "inline" option for toggles into my code without Elv spazzing that "inline" isn't a thing |
| 13:10.02 | Torhal | The fact that he took my "for example" as Gospel Truth⢠when I was suggesting how to evade the LibStub-trampling is just as disturbing as the fact that they didn't even think about trampling to begin with. |
| 13:10.22 | Myrroddin | indeed |
| 13:10.32 | Torhal | ElvUI has been bad at this for years before the whole Ace3 thing, so I don't expect they've gotten better. |
| 13:10.50 | Torhal | My advice? Ditch ElvUI. |
| 13:11.06 | Torhal | Unless you want the Apple-level walled-garden shit... |
| 13:11.11 | Myrroddin | I bitched at the Zygor guys a year or so back until they cleaned up their act. but for a bit right after 7.0.3 there were endless conflicts |
| 13:11.29 | Torhal | Otherwise, expect much of what you love and cherish to simply not work without fanfare at some point. |
| 13:12.00 | Torhal | Hell, try Gethe's RealUI. |
| 13:12.18 | Myrroddin | my problem is that I lost my SVs for my custom UI and didn't want to recreate everything |
| 13:12.30 | Torhal | I haven't, but hey - he seems to know WTF he's doing for the most part and I recently aded him to the LibDialog-1.0 project as an author. |
| 13:12.46 | Torhal | s/aded/added/ |
| 13:12.47 | Myrroddin | i was using BT, TidyPlates, Stuf and some other addons |
| 13:13.05 | Torhal | Er, LibTextDump-1.0 |
| 13:13.10 | Torhal | I have too many fucking projects. |
| 13:13.51 | Myrroddin | ha! yes you do. want to take over GatherMate2_Data? the license allows it |
| 13:14.04 | Torhal | As popular and simultaneously disruptive as ElvUI is, though, I'm thinking of making a LibFuckYouCommunity-666 |
| 13:14.07 | Myrroddin | i just don't know how to run the dataminer tools or i would |
| 13:15.27 | Torhal | Step 1: Figure out what you want to gather. Step 2: Figure out how. Step 3: Ignore how annoying and tedious step 2 is. Step 4: ERMAGHERD, I has stuffz. |
| 13:16.06 | Myrroddin | um, yeah. that. :P |
| 13:16.58 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 13:17.40 | Torhal | The upside is that once you get over the hurdle once, you'll have a background for doing it in different areas, and in many times the prior knowledge is very applicable. |
| 13:17.58 | Torhal | So yeah, Myrroddin - stop being a slacker. |
| 13:18.42 | Myrroddin | y'know, now and then I poke at your projects, all elventy billion of them. and you might notice that unless I see an issue that is new or that I can add something meaningful, I just leave you alone. Or in some cases, remind people to just be patient and stop being "me me me" fucks |
| 13:20.02 | Myrroddin | I found the whole Archy update particularly annoying. but that's just me |
| 13:20.57 | Myrroddin | I knew you'd figure it out when you had time, but the sheer gall of people demanding "but it has been X amount of time!" ... seriously, so what? |
| 13:21.06 | Myrroddin | unless they are contributing, STFU |
| 13:22.04 | Torhal | Myrroddin: I do see, and thanks for that. |
| 13:22.17 | Torhal | Which update for Archy, though? :) |
| 13:22.30 | Myrroddin | Torhal you even inspired me to close comments on Curseforge/Wowace on my own projects |
| 13:22.39 | Torhal | I' still missing shit, and most of that has to do with the whole UI issue I was talking about in BNet chat earlier. |
| 13:22.52 | Myrroddin | oh, the unofficial patch that made Archy work, but only in English |
| 13:23.10 | Torhal | Oh, that. It was even in the forums. |
| 13:23.13 | Myrroddin | because of the texture changes |
| 13:23.19 | Torhal | Took me like 5-10 minutes to diagnose and fix. |
| 13:23.21 | Torhal | lol |
| 13:23.35 | Myrroddin | I know!! people just can't or won't read, dammit LOL |
| 13:24.05 | Torhal | The whole comment closure thing started with mods.curse being total shit at relaying conversation flow. |
| 13:24.21 | Torhal | CurseForge/WowAce was better, but still lost info. |
| 13:24.26 | Torhal | So yeah - forums. |
| 13:24.36 | Myrroddin | the other issue which we talked about in BNet, anything I can help? Dig into Blizzard's (puke) code for you? |
| 13:25.20 | Myrroddin | or modify my arch tool? |
| 13:25.30 | Torhal | Nope. They went against character with the blobID function, as I said; instead of removing it outright or moving it to the Blizzard_Deprecated AddOn, they simply made it do nothing. |
| 13:25.51 | Torhal | So I had no fucking clue that my datamining was missing everything as far as new dig sites was concerned. |
| 13:25.56 | Myrroddin | which, btw, I made you an author on that in case you ever needed to test something. feel free to tweak or change the code to suit |
| 13:26.35 | Myrroddin | pretty sure it is MIT License anyway |
| 13:26.45 | Torhal | I did see that - the new site sends a notification for that; many people try to add authors to their project when they fork illegally to make it seem legit, so I decided we needed to let that person know they were added. |
| 13:27.07 | Myrroddin | the point being that if you need to test code or poke at APIs, feel free to use and abuse the tool |
| 13:27.27 | Torhal | Alrighty. |
| 13:28.02 | Myrroddin | I know I should have asked, but I figured you wouldn't mind with that one. not like I can't tweak it myself or I needed drastic help getting it to work |
| 13:28.52 | Myrroddin | it was just a curiosity project |
| 13:29.21 | Torhal | Eh, it's all good. Along with saying we needed to inform people when they were added to projects, I also said we needed to allow them to _leave_ projects - the old sites didn't allow that. |
| 13:30.59 | Torhal | "If I had been God, I would have rearranged the veins in the face to make them more resistant to alcohol and less prone to aging." |
| 13:31.08 | Torhal | Motherfucking Roger Waters. |
| 13:32.02 | Fisker | Hey Torhal |
| 13:32.15 | Torhal | Hey Fisker |
| 13:32.16 | Torhal | Roman? |
| 13:32.26 | Fisker | Nope |
| 13:32.29 | Torhal | k. |
| 13:32.38 | Fisker | Blizzcon? |
| 13:32.39 | Myrroddin | sells cookies to quiescens |
| 13:32.48 | Torhal | No goddamn clue, Fisker. |
| 13:32.54 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:33.00 | Fisker | xoxo? |
| 13:33.01 | Torhal | sells Myrroddin for BlizzCon monies. |
| 13:33.22 | Torhal | I can't Fisker - IRC isn't amenable. |
| 13:33.27 | Fisker | Sucks |
| 13:33.28 | Myrroddin | damn son, you'd need to sell me a few thousand times for that |
| 13:33.44 | Torhal | I was just looking for pretzel money, Myrroddin. |
| 13:33.47 | Torhal | S'ok. |
| 13:33.52 | Fisker | I got pretzels |
| 13:33.57 | Myrroddin | oh, then sell me 4 times and you are good |
| 13:34.07 | Fisker | Same ones used in the assassination attempt |
| 13:34.21 | Torhal | Sure, Fisker, but can you honestly say "I sold a Canadian for these pretzels"? |
| 13:34.39 | Fisker | Nope, but I been say I almost killed a guy |
| 13:34.44 | Fisker | Can say* |
| 13:35.04 | Myrroddin | I'm sure Lore would appreciate selling of Canadians. he strikes me as the type who would be okay with that |
| 13:35.17 | Torhal | That's odd - your old line was "I once killed a guy" so how the fuck did the "almost" come about? |
| 13:35.40 | Fisker | Because my pretzels didn't kill the guy |
| 13:35.45 | Torhal | Myrroddin: You need to learn to call Fisker out on shenanigans. |
| 13:36.05 | Myrroddin | puts Fisker in the SHU |
| 13:36.23 | Torhal | He'll buy a phone this month, and two months later say his phone is old. That's sketchy. |
| 13:36.24 | Fisker | And now I'm kind of glad I didn't, because the current guy deserves it more |
| 13:36.34 | Fisker | Not this month Torhal |
| 13:36.37 | Fisker | Next month |
| 13:36.37 | Torhal | Oh. |
| 13:36.40 | Torhal | Next? |
| 13:36.44 | Torhal | Or last? |
| 13:36.44 | Fisker | Yep |
| 13:36.50 | Torhal | Oh. |
| 13:36.50 | Fisker | Dunno yet |
| 13:37.03 | Torhal | Really, though; get Myrroddin to buy your phone. |
| 13:37.14 | Fisker | Well last month will be November if any |
| 13:37.18 | Torhal | He has national healthcare and shit, so he can afford it. |
| 13:37.26 | Fisker | I'm Danish |
| 13:37.31 | Torhal | You have VAT. |
| 13:37.36 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 13:37.37 | Torhal | He just has Canadian shit. |
| 13:37.41 | Torhal | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 13:37.49 | Fisker | I'm sure he has things to pay for too |
| 13:37.49 | Torhal | Like elk and moose. |
| 13:37.57 | Myrroddin | which is actually mostly american shit |
| 13:37.59 | Fisker | Besides I'll just get Offspring to buy it |
| 13:38.19 | Torhal | Wait, Myrroddin - you buy heroin? |
| 13:38.22 | Torhal | Fuck. |
| 13:38.23 | Fisker | Do you have sales tax Myrroddin ? |
| 13:38.26 | Fisker | And what is it |
| 13:38.26 | Torhal | Things suddenly make sense. |
| 13:38.56 | Torhal | Stuff like "I forgot about IRC" can easily be explained by heroin. |
| 13:39.00 | Myrroddin | Fisker I live in Alberta, so no provincial sales tax. we do have federal goods and service tax of 5% |
| 13:39.01 | Torhal | >.> |
| 13:39.12 | Fisker | That's okay I guess |
| 13:39.12 | Torhal | Myrroddin: Fisker has like 35% |
| 13:39.16 | Fisker | 25 |
| 13:39.22 | Torhal | I said "like" you fucker. |
| 13:39.28 | Fisker | But it's Germany |
| 13:39.35 | Fisker | So I think it's 21% there |
| 13:39.55 | Myrroddin | other canadian provinces pay a lot more than i do |
| 13:40.26 | Myrroddin | stupid quebec adds their provincial sales tax on top of the federal. so you are being taxed on your tax |
| 13:40.31 | Fisker | Seriously Torhal I'm cleaning up for my new coworker which I got 5 months ago but got transferred last week |
| 13:40.46 | Fisker | Because all our manager cares about is perceived progress |
| 13:40.50 | Fisker | I should've known |
| 13:40.56 | Fisker | Could've slacked off so hard |
| 13:41.21 | Myrroddin | sells Torhal for VAT rebate cheques |
| 13:41.31 | Fisker | I was looking at some work he did and all I could do was Ctrl+A then Delete |
| 13:41.55 | Fisker | Well except for public static void main() { } |
| 13:42.00 | Fisker | That part he did well |
| 13:42.20 | Torhal | Another Roger Waters gem: "PIcture a Courthouse with no fucking doors. Picture a Cathouse with no fucking whores. Picture a shit house with no fucking brains. Picture a leader with no fucking brains." |
| 13:42.29 | Torhal | (He lives in America these days) |
| 13:42.39 | Fisker | Who? |
| 13:42.49 | Torhal | Roger Waters, you silly twat. :P |
| 13:42.59 | Torhal | stabs Fisker with Alram. |
| 13:42.59 | Fisker | Don't know who it is |
| 13:43.20 | Torhal | Fisker: Do teh Googalz on Pink Floyd. |
| 13:43.20 | Myrroddin | he's from the guess who. a band, but not The Band |
| 13:43.31 | Fisker | Anyway save me from this hell Torhal |
| 13:43.32 | Myrroddin | or that |
| 13:43.51 | Alram | Rude, Torhal |
| 13:44.19 | Fisker | I'm not sure if you have any questions or concerns please visit the plug-in settings |
| 13:44.25 | Myrroddin | suddenly i want to listen to classic Queen |
| 13:44.30 | Torhal | You could always replace the dude with Alram, Fisker. That would save your sanity (I assume) and get him off my goddamn back with the "rude" hogwash. |
| 13:44.51 | Fisker | The dude won't be replaced |
| 13:44.59 | Fisker | He doesn't work there anymore |
| 13:45.18 | Torhal | Myrroddin: Apparently, the dude from Mr. Robot is going to play Freddy Mercury in the Bohemian Rhapsody movie. |
| 13:45.31 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 13:45.36 | Torhal | I saw a picture. It was "OMFG WAT" |
| 13:45.49 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Why LOL? |
| 13:46.01 | Myrroddin | i saw the picture too. he looks okay as mercury |
| 13:46.13 | bluspacecow | because it's reasonably accurate |
| 13:46.15 | bluspacecow | ergo "LOL" |
| 13:46.16 | Torhal | Tell me, or I'll make you watch The Almighty Johnsons on a loop for 36 years. |
| 13:46.22 | Myrroddin | still think SBC would be better |
| 13:46.35 | Torhal | Yeah, that pic was "OMG" in a "NAILED IT" way. |
| 13:46.55 | Torhal | I only saw a profile, Myrroddin, so if you have another... |
| 13:47.01 | Torhal | But that profile nailed it. |
| 13:47.02 | Myrroddin | hey, do you ever watch "epic rap battles of history" on youtube? |
| 13:47.11 | Torhal | Not for almost half a decade. |
| 13:47.17 | Torhal | Same with Epic Mealtime. |
| 13:47.28 | Myrroddin | the guy who played and sang as freddie mercury was amazing |
| 13:48.12 | Myrroddin | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5a_v0MP_Fk |
| 13:48.37 | Torhal | Anyway, Myrroddin - if you like early Pink Floyd, such as the albums "Wish You Were Here" or "Animals" - you'll fucking dig Roger Waters' latest solo album. |
| 13:49.02 | Torhal | It's the first he's done in 25 years. |
| 13:49.07 | Myrroddin | gotta be better than post-mercury queen |
| 13:49.20 | Myrroddin | can't say i'm fond of any of the replacement singers |
| 13:49.35 | Torhal | Also sounds like the two Flooyd albums I mentioned, with a smattering of The Wall. |
| 13:49.40 | Torhal | Floyd* |
| 13:50.01 | Torhal | Roger Waters was the primary soundwriter/singer for Pink Floyd. |
| 13:50.04 | Fisker | pink floyd is silly |
| 13:50.13 | Torhal | Yer mum is silly. |
| 13:50.14 | bluspacecow | oh that was a spelling mistake ? |
| 13:50.15 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:50.19 | Torhal | She had you, after all. |
| 13:50.28 | bluspacecow | I was totally going to google Flooyd the Pink Floyd cover band |
| 13:50.38 | Torhal | immerses bluspacecow in American culture. |
| 13:50.56 | bluspacecow | is now 500 pounds overweight |
| 13:51.04 | Myrroddin | wait, what? pink floyd is NOT american culture LOL |
| 13:51.15 | Torhal | The title track, "Is This the Life We Really Want?" actually stars off with a Trump soundbite. |
| 13:51.23 | Torhal | starts* |
| 13:51.26 | bluspacecow | what freak called PF american ? |
| 13:51.31 | Torhal | I did. |
| 13:51.36 | bluspacecow | freak |
| 13:51.41 | bluspacecow | they're british |
| 13:51.45 | Torhal | British Invasion shit. Plus, Roger Waters lives here now. |
| 13:52.02 | bluspacecow | hack! |
| 13:52.30 | Myrroddin | pfft. that's like saying Micheal J Fox or William Shatner are American |
| 13:52.46 | Myrroddin | you culture thief! |
| 13:52.51 | Torhal | "goose has gotten fat. On caviar, and fancy bars. And sub-prime loans. And broken homes. Is this the life, the Holy Grail? It's not enough that we succeed. We still need others to fail." |
| 13:53.25 | Torhal | Michael J. Fox is a Time Lord, Myrroddin, you heinous offender of sould. |
| 13:53.26 | Fisker | I will destroy you Torhal |
| 13:53.33 | Torhal | Good, Fisker. |
| 13:53.38 | Torhal | I pray for your success. |
| 13:53.42 | Torhal | You keep missing me, though. |
| 13:54.13 | Fisker | yep |
| 13:54.19 | Myrroddin | heh. heinous. heheheh |
| 13:54.43 | Torhal | Bill & Teds Myrroddin throughout all of time and space. |
| 13:55.00 | Myrroddin | excellent! I love the soundtrack |
| 13:55.13 | Torhal | Another gem from Roger Waters: "Every time a nincompoop becomes the President." |
| 13:55.21 | Torhal | >.> |
| 13:55.22 | Torhal | <.< |
| 13:56.00 | Myrroddin | makes Torhal run for president |
| 13:56.37 | Torhal | "I won fourteen marathons by running for the President!" |
| 13:56.55 | Myrroddin | you would. wacko |
| 13:57.21 | Torhal | Not at all. I'd immediately nope the fuck out and /reloadui. |
| 13:57.24 | Torhal | Like a champ. |
| 13:57.38 | Myrroddin | omg. you so totally would |
| 13:57.57 | Myrroddin | "I went outside once. graphics were amazing, but the gameplay sucked." |
| 13:58.42 | Torhal | "I tried to /reloadui and this fucker in front of me wouldn't stop talking about Jesus." |
| 13:59.12 | Torhal | "So I goddamn ganked his ass and hid until my flag went away." |
| 13:59.13 | Myrroddin | smh |
| 14:09.42 | Myrroddin | okay, now i am really off to sleep |
| 14:09.54 | Myrroddin | have fun doing the /reloadui |
| 14:20.21 | Fisker | https://i.imgur.com/jF9Lp3I.png <-hemad Torhal |
| 14:20.46 | Torhal | #HeSoMad Fisker |
| 14:20.57 | Fisker | (I came in for the tag that killed an elite) |
| 14:21.15 | Torhal | Well, you know; you're kind of a bastard. |
| 14:21.23 | Torhal | But not really. Blizzard is the real bastard. |
| 14:21.36 | Torhal | RNGesus, and all that. |
| 14:27.53 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:27.54 | Fisker | I am sad |
| 14:29.01 | Torhal | Don't worry; be happy, Fisker. |
| 14:29.09 | Fisker | I am |
| 14:29.21 | Torhal | You just said you were sad. |
| 14:29.23 | Torhal | Dafuq. |
| 14:30.40 | quiescens | o.o |
| 14:30.48 | quiescens | gives torhal a cookie |
| 14:31.15 | Fisker | I am kind of moody Torhal |
| 14:32.26 | Torhal | I'm sure this is just a normal thing for you Fisker, and absolutely nothing you need inform me of. |
| 14:32.32 | Fisker | okay |
| 14:32.45 | Torhal | If you tell quiescens, though, he might give you a cookie. |
| 14:32.52 | Torhal | Then, you can kill him. |
| 14:32.58 | quiescens | ! |
| 14:33.02 | quiescens | ): |
| 14:34.52 | Fisker | kind of mean |
| 14:35.46 | Torhal | Just a bit. You're apparently not convinced that it isn't something to do, though. |
| 15:31.27 | Fisker | Can you message people through github |
| 15:34.04 | Stanzilla | no |
| 15:34.16 | Torhal | Seriously, Fisker - phrasing. I read that as "Can you massage" |
| 15:34.38 | Torhal | :Can you send messages through"n't have trigger me. You fuck. |
| 15:35.05 | Stanzilla | that you can |
| 15:35.12 | Stanzilla | webhooks + internet of things |
| 15:35.27 | Torhal | s/through"n't/though wouldn't/ |
| 15:35.31 | Torhal | Okay, my keyboard needs to DIAF. |
| 15:35.54 | quiescens | i don't think message and massage being 1 character different isn't really directly fisker's fault o.o |
| 15:36.12 | Torhal | Phrasing, quiescens. Please at least _try_ to keep up. |
| 15:36.21 | Torhal | embargoes quiescens on flour and sugar. |
| 15:37.21 | quiescens | ): |
| 15:37.25 | Torhal | The sentence "can you massage through" is completely different from "can you send messages through" at a glance, you Sesame Street prick. |
| 15:37.48 | Torhal | I even unintentionally misspelled the first example. |
| 15:37.54 | Torhal | See what you did? |
| 15:38.19 | Torhal | gives quiescens Stanzilla's reward points. |
| 15:42.53 | bluspacecow | You wish you could send massages through git Torhal |
| 15:46.50 | Fisker | What's git torhal? |
| 15:47.42 | Megalon | git gud |
| 15:47.47 | Torhal | Seriously, bluspacecow - Fisker has a valid question. |
| 15:48.03 | quiescens | torhal is not a git command |
| 15:48.16 | Torhal | I don't git you, quiescens. |
| 15:49.24 | Torhal | Now that I think about it, really; quiescens has built-in VCS. Fucker is constantly dying, and constantly being restored. |
| 15:49.39 | Torhal | The question we should be asking is "Who is blowing away the bad code?" |
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| 15:55.35 | bluspacecow | answer : Torhal in a fit of rage as he finds yet another addon with messy code to adopt. |
| 15:55.53 | bluspacecow | You adopt addons nearly as quickly as you acquire cats Torhal. |
| 15:56.40 | quiescens | o.o |
| 16:06.12 | Torhal | I take great offense at that, bluspacecow - I'm certain I've not taken over an AddOn since sometime in 2014. |
| 16:06.23 | bluspacecow | #triggered |
| 16:06.29 | Torhal | On the other hand, I've accumulated a great many cats even after that. |
| 16:06.33 | bluspacecow | *hands craft beer to Torhal* |
| 16:06.40 | bluspacecow | *hands a Snickers to Torhal* |
| 16:06.42 | bluspacecow | we cool ? |
| 16:06.49 | Torhal | hands a hand-knitted quiescens rug to bluspacecow. |
| 16:06.59 | bluspacecow | dude thats my rug |
| 16:07.00 | Torhal | My cats made this. |
| 16:07.09 | bluspacecow | wow clever cats |
| 16:07.33 | Torhal | They mostly just scrunched and lied on it. Then repeated. |
| 16:12.13 | bluspacecow | so they peed on it ? |
| 16:14.00 | Torhal | Maybe. But I'm sure they at least placed their buttholes on it. |
| 16:14.39 | Torhal | bluspacecow: https://i.imgur.com/C66A2NE.gifv |
| 16:15.34 | bluspacecow | all we need know is to hook that butt up to a generator |
| 16:15.37 | bluspacecow | then = free power ! |
| 16:19.27 | Torhal | Okay, bluspacecow. I have no delicate way of saying this, so here goes: What the actual fucking goddamn fuck? |
| 16:20.03 | bluspacecow | *smiles in a winning , David Tennent way* |
| 16:21.01 | Torhal | approaches bluspacecow while wearing a Krysten Ritter mask. |
| 16:21.04 | Torhal | Smile now. |
| 16:21.07 | Torhal | Do it. |
| 16:21.14 | bluspacecow | *smile* |
| 16:21.24 | Torhal | Shit. |
| 16:21.35 | bluspacecow | i really need to watch that some day |
| 16:21.38 | Torhal | snaps bluspacecow's David Tennent-like neck. |
| 16:21.40 | bluspacecow | before i watch Defenders |
| 16:22.04 | Torhal | watches bluspacecow regenerate into Fisker. |
| 16:28.04 | bluspacecow | https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/721r27/conference_call_slowpoke_inc_on_the_line/ |
| 16:28.08 | bluspacecow | lol wat |
| 16:37.29 | Torhal | This is the single scenario where I demand the source code on threat of unleashing bluspacecow for hair-batting. |
| 16:52.23 | bluspacecow | can-not-stop-watching-cat-butt-sitting |
| 16:53.28 | Torhal | Am I going to have to bring Fisker in for an intervention, bluspacecow? |
| 16:53.39 | bluspacecow | maybe |
| 16:53.53 | Torhal | Wow, dude. |
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| 16:57.38 | quiescens | 1.0 is best version o.o |
| 17:03.23 | Torhal | I actually prefer the alphas, quiescens. |
| 17:03.39 | Torhal | Much edgier and less prone to sudden death, |
| 17:08.03 | bluspacecow | so edgy |
| 17:08.30 | Fisker | how many nazis does it take to kill a guy Torhal? |
| 17:08.49 | Torhal | invites Joel Tobeck to live with bluspacecow. |
| 17:08.56 | bluspacecow | who? |
| 17:09.20 | Torhal | Hush, bluspacecow - I'm trying to figure out Fisker's ulterior motive. |
| 17:13.58 | Torhal | Do you watch The Doctor Blake Mysteries, bluspacecow? |
| 17:14.20 | bluspacecow | negatory HairyTorhalCatLordDude |
| 17:14.28 | Torhal | I know it's Australian, but I'd think it'd be more readily available you you then to me. |
| 17:14.31 | Torhal | Ah. |
| 17:14.37 | Torhal | s/then/than/ |
| 17:17.24 | Semlar | doctor who? |
| 17:24.14 | quiescens | what? |
| 17:24.27 | bluspacecow | wat? |
| 17:24.55 | Torhal | stabs Semlar in the Semlar with Semlar. |
| 17:25.07 | quiescens | thats not very nice |
| 17:25.11 | bluspacecow | wee! |
| 17:25.28 | Torhal | stabs quiescens in the Semlar with a mushroom. |
| 17:25.41 | quiescens | dies. |
| 17:25.54 | Torhal | Dude be weird, y0. |
| 17:26.40 | bluspacecow | man quiescens dies more times then Krillin in DBZA |
| 17:27.22 | Torhal | He's a muthafuckin' raid boss, bluspacecow. |
| 17:27.33 | Torhal | Blizzard forgot they were developing him, though, so... |
| 17:27.36 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
| 17:27.40 | bluspacecow | what loot does he drop ? |
| 17:27.46 | Torhal | Cookies. |
| 17:28.12 | bluspacecow | of course |
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| 17:30.41 | ls- | resurrects quiescens |
| 17:31.06 | ls- | throws cookies at quiescens |
| 17:33.19 | Torhal | That was wasted effort, ls-; quiescens self-resurrects and doesn't need to be killed to drop cookies. |
| 17:33.36 | Torhal | He doesn't even have a normal spawn timer. |
| 17:33.45 | ls- | ikr, but I decided to do it regardless :p |
| 17:34.04 | ls- | kind of a power-up :D |
| 17:34.34 | bluspacecow | work time over time to flee! |
| 17:34.40 | bluspacecow | FLEE! FLEE! FLEE! |
| 17:45.51 | Gnarfoz | sigh |
| 17:46.23 | Gnarfoz | when people are doing weird stuff because they think it'll help achieve things with the packager |
| 17:50.13 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: Oh? |
| 17:51.15 | quiescens | what did you break gnarfoz o.o |
| 17:51.41 | Torhal | SOmeone probably tried to use a cat butthole, quiescens. |
| 17:58.28 | Gnarfoz | does my sentence read as if it was me, quiescens |
| 18:02.06 | ls- | it does... |
| 18:02.31 | ls- | "asking for a friend" thingy, you know... |
| 18:04.32 | Gnarfoz | ??? |
| 18:05.24 | Gnarfoz | (ranting is not a question) |
| 18:05.30 | Gnarfoz | Flamegoat knows who I mean :p |
| 18:13.10 | ls- | :D |
| 18:21.26 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: WAT |
| 18:31.53 | Gnarfoz | wives aiding terrorists? |
| 18:35.28 | ls- | nah, what art thou |
| 18:36.46 | ls- | sry, dengue fever fried my brain >_> |
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| 20:10.11 | znf | I miss Stanzilla |
| 20:11.52 | EthanCentaurai | with every bullet you fire at him |
| 20:19.36 | EthanCentaurai | >busu |
| 20:19.38 | Catal1na | Weather for Leeds, United Kingdom | Temperature: 15°C; Humidity: 88%; Conditions: Clear; Wind: East, 10kph; Updated: 29 mins, 36 secs ago | Forecast for Sunday: Rain; High of 20°C; Low of 13°C | Forecast for Monday: Chance of rain; High of 16°C; Low of 12°C | Forecast for Tuesday: Partly cloudy; High of 19°C; Low of 12°C |
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| 20:45.56 | Gnarfoz | WTS Merkel, we've got a spare |
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| 21:00.41 | Funkeh` | isn't that worth negative value by now |
| 21:05.41 | znf | would take your merkel over any other politician |
| 21:05.55 | nebula | i'll trade you a trump |
| 21:06.58 | znf | who's AfD? |
| 21:07.37 | Megalon | a political party |
| 21:08.05 | znf | literally nazis? |
| 21:08.35 | nebula | focusing on muslims instead of jews this time around |
| 21:09.01 | Megalon | focusing on those below you, then those above you this time |
| 21:09.11 | Megalon | they are alt-right, yea |
| 21:09.39 | znf | ah, I see |
| 21:10.40 | nebula | are the elections over yet? it's merkel vs schulz mostly, yea? |
| 21:10.59 | Megalon | they got 88 seats in bundestag |
| 21:11.00 | Megalon | which is funny |
| 21:13.38 | nevcairiel | nebula: the more interesting question will be which parties will join up to form an actual majority |
| 21:13.55 | nevcairiel | we'll probably be without an actual government for a few months or so =P |
| 21:22.51 | Funkeh` | is it over? |
| 21:23.09 | Funkeh` | usually it takes us all night to count shit |
| 21:23.23 | nebula | 6pm |
| 21:23.33 | nevcairiel | its not official, but by this time the numbers don't really change much anymore |
| 21:23.41 | nevcairiel | not to any degree that still matters |
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| 21:25.10 | znf | Is there any way to figure out what filesystems a specific android kernel can mount/write to? |
| 21:28.14 | Gnarfoz | cat /proc/config.gz if that option was used |
| 21:29.53 | Gnarfoz | anyway, wonder who they'll make chancellor |
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| 21:50.22 | nevcairiel | that seems without much doubt to me |
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| 21:56.46 | nebula | merkel minority govt? sounds fun |
| 21:57.37 | nevcairiel | nah they'll more likely just make some unstable three-party coalition |
| 21:58.23 | nevcairiel | its not like anyone else has a chance to get a majority, you would need like 4 parties, and they'll never agree |
| 21:58.28 | nebula | i was just looking at https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/sep/24/german-elections-2017-latest-results-live-merkel-bundestag-afd |
| 21:59.07 | nevcairiel | one option would be what we call a jamaica coalition, black yellow green |
| 21:59.46 | nevcairiel | or a grand coalition, but the SPD basically declined that already, but who knows what will happen |
| 22:03.46 | ls- | Megalon: and the other party? 14? :D |
| 22:10.54 | znf | https://webkit.org/blog/7929/designing-websites-for-iphone-x/ |
| 22:10.57 | znf | dear fucking god |
| 22:12.18 | Funkeh` | can't be fucked opening that but I guess it's something to do with the gap at the top |
| 22:12.37 | nebula | just get bars on the sides when in landscape |
| 22:12.54 | nebula | with a new property to force full width |
| 22:13.30 | Funkeh` | is btrfs a good idea for a samba share |
| 22:14.16 | znf | samba shouldn't care that it's btrfs |
| 22:14.38 | znf | but as a whole I didn't have pleasant experiences with btrfs so far, seemed slower (when the vdev is on a nfs share) |
| 22:15.08 | Funkeh` | every year I hear about btrfs being the next best thing since sliced bread yet I still don't see people using it |
| 22:15.12 | nevcairiel | the way the screen is designed is a bit dumb, but their website behavior seems fine. I doubt many people are going to bother to use those tiny areas of extra space with those properties though |
| 22:17.05 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: my point was that the parliament doesn't have to follow the president's suggested candidate (although there's the question who that'll be as well)... with this many parties at non-irrelevant numbers, maybe we'll see a 2nd round of voting for the first time ever |
| 22:18.35 | Gnarfoz | (also I'm disappointed at people still throwing votes away voting for FDP oO) |
| 22:21.18 | Gnarfoz | >tv discovery |
| 22:21.20 | Catal1na | Star Trek: Discovery 2017 (Running). Previous Episode: [1x2] Battle at the Binary Stars on 2017-09-24 (0410 hours). Next Episode: [1x3] Context Is For Kings on 2017-10-01 (031 week). http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/7480/star-trek-discovery |
| 22:21.39 | Gnarfoz | huh |
| 22:23.46 | nevcairiel | methinks Catal1na or that website fails at timezones |
| 22:23.47 | Catal1na | I doubt they have more than that one. :P |
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| 23:06.30 | Gnarfoz | so when does it "air" |
| 23:06.36 | Gnarfoz | considering it's a streaming service |
| 23:07.27 | nevcairiel | 8:30pm i read |
| 23:07.49 | nevcairiel | so 30 minutes? |
| 23:09.41 | Gnarfoz | that'd be nice, I could possibly watch it before nap time, then |
| 23:09.56 | Gnarfoz | not sure how rippable CBS:AA is |
| 23:10.00 | znf | I don't remember if when I wrote that plugin I took into account timezones |
| 23:10.16 | Gnarfoz | (if not, then it's wait for Netflix) |
| 23:10.46 | znf | timedelta = datetime.datetime.now(tzlocal()) - airtime |
| 23:10.53 | znf | seems that I took into account timezones |
| 23:12.41 | znf | Uh. |
| 23:13.08 | znf | I see what I did :D |
| 23:15.01 | znf | ...why the fuck did I import urllib if I ended up using the bot's own web fetcher |
| 23:16.46 | znf | time to rewrite |
| 23:17.00 | nebula | anyone watching the mythic invitational? 31 wipes in arcway lol |
| 23:17.08 | nebula | 35* |
| 23:18.01 | ls- | NA teams? |
| 23:18.06 | nebula | yea |
| 23:18.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah, this run is brutal for them |
| 23:19.46 | Gnarfoz | nebula: any idea if these premonition guys are at all related to the US guild of old? |
| 23:19.56 | Gnarfoz | tried to figure that out earlier, but failed ^^ |
| 23:20.50 | nebula | i don't think so, premo was so long ago, though, who knows |
| 23:20.53 | ls- | "bojne: Team Deplete making a case on how to play like NA :D" from chat, lol |
| 23:21.28 | nebula | looks like a play on the guild "visionz" |
| 23:21.35 | nebula | guild name* |
| 23:21.46 | znf | Gnarfoz, so relatively, when is/was the episode? |
| 23:22.29 | Gnarfoz | in 10 minutes, I think |
| 23:22.43 | nebula | 70 min |
| 23:22.58 | znf | hmm, why the fuck is this not working |
| 23:23.12 | Gnarfoz | ah yes 19:22 eastern right now? mh |
| 23:23.20 | znf | >>> datetime.datetime.now(get_localzone()) |
| 23:23.20 | znf | datetime.datetime(2017, 9, 25, 2, 23, 1, 626749, tzinfo=<DstTzInfo 'Europe/Bucharest' EEST+3:00:00 DST>) |
| 23:23.25 | znf | so, 2:23 local time |
| 23:23.29 | nebula | Gnarfoz: yar |
| 23:23.37 | znf | datetime.datetime(2017, 9, 24, 12, 0, tzinfo=tzutc()) |
| 23:23.51 | Gnarfoz | should be 3:30 your time, znf |
| 23:24.00 | znf | why doesn't this get the proper delta |
| 23:24.32 | znf | ...unless I can't do a delta between 2 timezones with babel.date |
| 23:24.57 | Gnarfoz | nebula: visionz? hm. https://www.wowprogress.com/character/us/kel-thuzad/Emangle yeah |
| 23:25.33 | Gnarfoz | oh "we have moved to thrall" |
| 23:25.36 | nebula | https://raider.io/characters/us/thrall/Emangle |
| 23:29.39 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 23:29.49 | Gnarfoz | adjusting deaths up and down in the scoreboard |
| 23:30.12 | Gnarfoz | spirit + blobs? yeaah |
| 23:30.26 | nebula | they picked a time they were done at then rolled back to that it looked like |
| 23:31.09 | Gnarfoz | I wonder who made this hugely improvable UI, though :p |
| 23:31.48 | Gnarfoz | at least they added healing done today (I'm surprised, I didn't expect it to be changed during the tournament, much less between two days back to back) |
| 23:32.25 | nebula | this is just a test run before blizzcon |
| 23:32.42 | nevcairiel | arcway can be such a pain with the wrong affixes, the trash is absolutely evil in there |
| 23:32.57 | nebula | when is that this year? second week of october again? |
| 23:33.05 | nevcairiel | second of nov |
| 23:33.12 | nebula | ah |
| 23:34.13 | nevcairiel | you know when you go to a site like blizzcon.com, you would think the date of the thing would be something you show anywhere on the front page |
| 23:34.24 | nevcairiel | fucking useless "modern" websites |
| 23:34.26 | nebula | bleh |
| 23:34.40 | nevcairiel | actually first week of nov |
| 23:34.45 | Gnarfoz | virtual ticket sales > info |
| 23:35.00 | znf | meh, tvmaze doesn't return the airtime properly, it returns 12:00 instead of 12:30 UTC for Star Trek discovery |
| 23:35.14 | Gnarfoz | nebula: what kind of m+ event is there at blizzcon? |
| 23:35.26 | nevcairiel | the finals of this thing, i reckon? |
| 23:35.28 | nebula | the global finals i thought |
| 23:35.38 | Gnarfoz | that's arena |
| 23:35.43 | Gnarfoz | finals of this are next sunday |
| 23:35.51 | nebula | so far this has just been regional finals |
| 23:35.56 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 23:35.59 | nevcairiel | i thought they do regional rounds and then invite the winners to blizzcon for global |
| 23:36.10 | Gnarfoz | not that I'm aware of |
| 23:36.28 | Gnarfoz | Weekend 3: Global Top 8, Semi-Finals, and Finals |
| 23:36.28 | Gnarfoz | Saturday, September 30 at 9:00 a.m. PDT |
| 23:36.28 | Gnarfoz | Sunday, October 1 at 9:00 a.m. PDT |
| 23:36.42 | nevcairiel | how odd, seems like a chance missed |
| 23:36.42 | nebula | lame |
| 23:36.59 | Gnarfoz | it's blizzard's esports department, what do you expect |
| 23:36.59 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:37.10 | znf | >tv preacher |
| 23:37.11 | Catal1na | Preacher 2016 (Running). Previous Episode: [2x13] The End of the Road on 2017-09-11 (042 weeks). Next Episode: not yet scheduled. http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/3144/preacher |
| 23:37.19 | Gnarfoz | anyone heard anything about Overwatch League since it was announced? no? yeah... |
| 23:37.32 | nebula | there has been some stuff |
| 23:37.43 | nebula | few big cities signed franchises |
| 23:37.47 | Gnarfoz | (I know they found a couple of teams by now, but only because I went out and looked) |
| 23:37.49 | nevcairiel | heh they have one round with a custom affix setup? the third affix not being tyrannical or fortified? :p |
| 23:38.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, one of the 5 combos is without f/t |
| 23:38.15 | znf | ah, ok, it seems that tvmaze.com doesn't have the proper schedule for Star Trek Discovery because it's listed as a web-series and not classic tv series, because it's on CBS All Access |
| 23:38.24 | Gnarfoz | but explosive/volcanic/teeming is terrible as well, more mobs that all spawn both volcanoes and orbs :C |
| 23:38.45 | nevcairiel | this week as explosive/teeming on live, adding volcanic in the mix sounds fun |
| 23:38.45 | Gnarfoz | and... I haven't checked, but even some of the other affix combos could be non-standard |
| 23:38.55 | znf | so my code is not bad :P |
| 23:39.27 | nevcairiel | some of those combinations seem rather easy though |
| 23:39.38 | Gnarfoz | none of them looked easy, so far :D |
| 23:39.46 | nevcairiel | well at a certain high level |
| 23:39.54 | nevcairiel | i just mean in comparison to the others |
| 23:40.17 | *** join/#wowace Diao (vschiu@50.35.70.27) |
| 23:40.43 | Gnarfoz | actually, none of these combos exist on live |
| 23:40.47 | Gnarfoz | they're all custom |
| 23:41.00 | znf | >tv star trek discovery |
| 23:41.02 | Catal1na | Star Trek: Discovery 2017 (Running). Previous Episode: [1x2] Battle at the Binary Stars on 2017-09-24 (0412 hours). Next Episode: [1x3] Context Is For Kings on 2017-10-01 (031 week). http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/7480/star-trek-discovery |
| 23:41.30 | Gnarfoz | assuming their schedule isn't terrible, that reads as if the first episode is a double episode? |
| 23:41.41 | nevcairiel | apparently |
| 23:41.42 | Gnarfoz | (nice, but makes everything even later :D) |
| 23:42.08 | znf | afaik both episodes are on CBS All Access (or, will be) |
| 23:42.13 | znf | but not on TV |
| 23:42.13 | Gnarfoz | but yeah, not all of these combos are identical in difficulty, for sure |
| 23:42.19 | nebula | the premiere is today |
| 23:42.24 | nebula | so yea, double |
| 23:42.26 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's their stupid setup |
| 23:42.37 | znf | nebula, on CBSaa or tv? |
| 23:43.00 | nevcairiel | its a streaming service, people will have ways to get it out of there |
| 23:43.02 | nebula | uh, both? |
| 23:43.12 | nebula | Star Trek: Discovery |
| 23:43.12 | nebula | World Premiere Tonight 8:30/7:30c |
| 23:43.22 | Gnarfoz | nah, they're doing some fuckery last I heard |
| 23:43.23 | znf | you sure they're doing both episodes on TV? |
| 23:43.26 | Gnarfoz | where it's later on CBS TV |
| 23:43.39 | Gnarfoz | unless they came (partially) to their senses |
| 23:44.02 | nebula | tv looks like just the first ep |
| 23:44.03 | znf | if they're doing one episode per week on the web, fuck them |
| 23:44.07 | znf | told'ya :D |
| 23:44.08 | nevcairiel | US TV station and sense? please. |
| 23:44.28 | Gnarfoz | let's start a new subscription streaming service! it'll go splendidly! |
| 23:44.58 | nebula | i with station streaming apps would stop doing fucking mid video ads, i'll watch a few minutes of preroll shit, but interrupt it and fuck off |
| 23:45.00 | Gnarfoz | ...and hide our highest caliber property's first new show in over a decade behind it |
| 23:45.01 | nebula | wish* |
| 23:45.14 | znf | oh well, that spells doom for the series |
| 23:45.25 | znf | there will not be enough people that sign up for that shit just for star trek |
| 23:45.29 | znf | not worth the $6/mo |
| 23:45.41 | Gnarfoz | the show can be as good as it wants, for everyone in the US, it's going to be a throwback to the TV landscape of when the last star trek show aired :P |
| 23:45.45 | nevcairiel | if it still airs on normal tv, just later, it could be fine |
| 23:46.00 | Gnarfoz | thankfully, everyone outside the US gets to enjoy it on Netflix |
| 23:46.32 | znf | Gnarfoz, next year, you mean? :P |
| 23:46.35 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 23:46.41 | Gnarfoz | airdate+1 |
| 23:46.57 | Gnarfoz | Netflix financed half the show, they do the international distribution |
| 23:47.06 | znf | meh, fuck airdate+ |
| 23:47.10 | Gnarfoz | true |
| 23:47.11 | nebula | hbo has started showing the first ep far in advance online as a bonus, changing the schedule online vs airing seems silly |
| 23:47.20 | znf | if it's netflix I want the whole shit at once |
| 23:47.32 | nevcairiel | apparently they dont air anything but the first episode on network television, that is some fuckery teasing |
| 23:47.45 | nebula | oh really? lol |
| 23:48.09 | znf | ...and they do online streaming every week? |
| 23:48.11 | znf | oh my god |
| 23:48.14 | nevcairiel | first time its a good thing to not have US Netflix =p |
| 23:48.22 | ls- | "team delete" from MDI chat, lmao |
| 23:48.57 | znf | gives them an excuse to cry that piracy is hurting their sales |
| 23:49.01 | nevcairiel | znf: its not the first online series to launch weekly, even netflix does it for some |
| 23:49.14 | znf | it does? for netflix exclusive? |
| 23:49.19 | nebula | better call saul did it |
| 23:49.57 | znf | oh well, if it's not available on netflix in full when it's done, I'm pirating it anyway |
| 23:50.07 | nebula | probably so they could simulacast it with amc |
| 23:50.25 | znf | actually I might just pirate it anyway |
| 23:50.38 | znf | I'll set up a client to dump the data to /dev/null just so I can pirate it continously |
| 23:52.31 | nevcairiel | launching a series weekly probably helps to hype it more, people talk about it for half a year instead of only a few weeks after they dumped all the eps a t once |
| 23:52.33 | Gnarfoz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9E2olGqUlU&feature=youtu.be ST:D main title sequence, apparently? hadn't seen that |
| 23:53.00 | Gnarfoz | with TV show seasons being as short as they are these days, half a year would be a lot |
| 23:53.14 | nevcairiel | they have a 2 month break or so! |
| 23:53.25 | Gnarfoz | more relics of the TV programming past |
| 23:53.26 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 23:53.51 | nevcairiel | I mean, I just couldn't imagine GoT dumping all at once, there is always so much talk and speculation between the episodes, which is kind of part of the fun |
| 23:54.20 | Gnarfoz | https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2017/sep/24/german-elections-2017-latest-results-live-merkel-bundestag-afd heh, I like that they picked brown for AfD |
| 23:54.21 | znf | Star Trek doesn't have the same following as GoT |
| 23:54.30 | Gnarfoz | yes, Star Trek's following is bigger |
| 23:54.31 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 23:54.37 | znf | honestly? I doubt it |
| 23:54.49 | znf | everyone and their grandma watches GoT |
| 23:54.56 | nebula | not really |
| 23:55.02 | nevcairiel | that main title sequence could use some more impressive music, if its real, Gnarfoz |
| 23:55.36 | Gnarfoz | there's been multiple >150 episode shows, over a dozen movies, and it's existed since the 60's... you really think it has fewer fans than GoT which is only a couple of years old? ^^ |
| 23:55.43 | znf | anyway, they can go fuck themselves with this distribution model |
| 23:55.47 | Gnarfoz | (not couting the books, of course, those have been around for way too long) |
| 23:56.00 | znf | Gnarfoz, yes, it's more appealing to genpop than a scifi series :-/ |
| 23:56.09 | Gnarfoz | true, but still |
| 23:56.39 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah... I'm not sure that's the correct music, I went looking for main title theme music before and this wasn't it, I think |
| 23:56.52 | znf | I'm still not sure how they tought it's a great idea to start their own shitty streaming service |
| 23:56.58 | znf | $6/mo and ads |
| 23:57.00 | nevcairiel | why is it that fantasy is more appealing then future-scifi, too much tech, not enough blood and nudity? |
| 23:57.01 | znf | fuck. that. shit. |
| 23:57.12 | Gnarfoz | they probably had drinks with someone at Disney, who are also starting their own streaming service |
| 23:57.12 | nebula | i mean, it's kind of the natural evolution of things |
| 23:57.25 | nebula | everyone is pulling their shit from amazon and netflix and rolling their own service |
| 23:57.38 | znf | If it's not on Netflix, I pirate. |
| 23:57.40 | znf | Easy as that. |
| 23:57.53 | nebula | netflix knew it would happen, hence their huge investment in original content |
| 23:57.57 | nevcairiel | luckily for you, you are not american, so it will be on your netflix =p |
| 23:58.21 | Gnarfoz | they think they can compete, but fragmenting the market is going to hurt them as well as drive away their potential customers |
| 23:58.35 | nevcairiel | i wonder how german netflix works, do they give us english content, or do we have to wait until some fucktard dubs it? |
| 23:58.47 | Gnarfoz | the former, AFAIK |
| 23:58.58 | Gnarfoz | also Netflix stuff is dubbed before US release afaik |
| 23:59.02 | Gnarfoz | so both are available? |
| 23:59.07 | nevcairiel | well original netflix maybe |
| 23:59.10 | nevcairiel | but ST:D? |
| 23:59.10 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 23:59.15 | Gnarfoz | mhhh |
| 23:59.22 | Gnarfoz | it's half Netflix, but yeah, no idea |
| 23:59.26 | nevcairiel | ST:D is an unfortunate acronym |
| 23:59.29 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
