IRC log for #wowace on 20171003

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02:03.25FiskerNooooooo Stanzilla
02:23.22FiskerNice Torhal
02:26.25Torhaluwot Fisker?
02:26.30FiskerHi
02:26.39TorhalHola.
02:30.23FiskerMy Pixel 2 might be delayed
02:46.34Fiskertime to RTM some Windows 10 1709's
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04:00.29Fiskerhttps://i.imgur.com/XVb9mak.png nom nom Stanzilla
04:08.30quiescenso.o
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08:09.34quiescensmoo
08:15.48Torhalflame-broils quiescens.
08:15.51quiescensdies.
08:15.56TorhalAgain? Fuck.
08:16.35TorhalMyrroddin: Your crime-scene cleanup skills are required.
08:17.05Myrroddinooo i'll get the garbage bags, gloves, and lime
08:17.40Myrroddinbut you have to get the barrel and concrete. i'm fresh out
08:19.07TorhalI'm very confused as to how this is supposed to properly dispose of the corpse.
08:19.26TorhalThis seems more like a macabre time capsule.
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08:41.51MyrroddinTorhal do you have a minute to look over a code snippet?
08:42.54StanzillaFisker: nice
08:42.55TorhalThe better question is, "Do you want to look at a code snippet?" or even "Are you in the frame of mind to look at a code snippet without Hulking out and flattening quiescens?"
08:43.01Fiskeryeah Stanzilla
08:43.39Stanzillawatsupdog though
08:44.06TorhalMyrroddin: Ohai?
08:44.34Myrroddinum, flatten quiescens if you must, but remember to share the cookies
08:44.48Myrroddinhttps://www.wowace.com/paste/39e8a2d5
08:44.50TorhalI mowed my lawn at 23:30, Fisker, and nobody gave even one quarter of a fuck.
08:45.00FiskerI will give you a quarter fuck
08:45.06Fiskernotmuchdog Stanzilla
08:45.10MyrroddinI'm trying to figure out why the tooltip isn't showing
08:45.14FiskerI want Pixel 2 XL but it sounds like that will have to wait a month D:
08:45.30TorhalElectronic lawnmowers are better than Pixel 2s, Fisker.
08:45.33Myrroddinit was showing before I added the ClearLines() and Show() commands
08:45.37Fiskernah
08:45.54TorhalYes. The one I have is quieter than a weed-whacker.
08:45.58Myrroddinbut when I didn't have either, it was throwing an error saying gsub's first argument was nil
08:46.03TorhalHence, mowing the lawn at 23:30.
08:47.32TorhalMyrroddin: That snippet lacks context, and the table names make me want to stab a slab of marble.
08:48.48Myrroddinthe context is that I'm replacing the word "Exalted" if a faction is paragon level
08:49.21Myrroddinreplacing it with either P or Paragon, user choice
08:49.33TorhalAnyway, Myrroddin - slap _G["GameTooltipTextLeft"..i]:GetText() into a variable, and then "if thatVariable then" before gsubbing.
08:50.12TorhalThe left side text doesn't have to exist. There may be something in Right, instead, or both may be empty for a blank line.
08:50.49TorhalAlso, WAT.
08:51.05TorhalYou're iterating over the GameTooltip and _inside of the iteration_ you're setting its text.
08:51.18TorhalThose confuses.
08:54.45Myrroddinhow should I do it? where should i set the text?
08:55.44Myrroddinthe original line from the addon i'm hooking reads...
08:55.51MyrroddinGameTooltip:AddDoubleLine(STANDING..':', friendID and friendTextLevel or _G['FACTION_STANDING_LABEL'..reaction], 1, 1, 1)
08:55.55TorhalWell, you can :GetText() on that FontString. So :SetText() it with the gsubbed string instead of calling :SetText() on the tooltip itself.
08:57.15TorhalIIRC, GameTooltip:SetText() wipes it and sets a line with that text.
08:58.11Myrroddinyes, i think that is true. I have it down to just showing the word "Paragon" but the rest of the text is missing
08:58.26TorhalIf I had more context (as in, the rest of the code and not what you're trying to do with the snippet) I might have a better answer.
08:59.00Torhal"if isParagon then" doesn't tell me where or how isParagon is set - hence, context.
08:59.56TorhalYou're also unnecessarily concatenating 8 onto the end of FACTION_STANDING_LABEL
09:00.01TorhalJust use FACTION_STANDING_LABEL8
09:00.39Myrroddinokay, here's some context. first is the original addon's OnEnter function
09:00.44Myrroddinhttps://www.wowace.com/paste/f0890cfb
09:02.37Myrroddinand now my code
09:02.39Myrroddinhttps://www.wowace.com/paste/990d1b2c
09:06.05TorhalOk - yeah. Get rid of the FACTION_STANDING_LABEL .. 8 and just use FACTION_STANDING_LABEL8
09:06.20znfGnarfoz, ever had something like this? https://hastebin.com/isuwemuvam.vbs
09:06.33znfmy certificate stopped working in the middle of the night, seems completely random
09:07.13TorhalAnd then replace GameTooltip:SetText with _G["GameTooltipTextRight" .. i]:SetText(your gsub stuff here)
09:07.55TorhalInstead of setting the entire text of the GameTooltip, you're just replacing the FontString's text for that particular line.
09:08.54Myrroddinyes, the rest of the tooltip can stay saying whatever it does
09:09.27TorhalSo                     GameTooltip:SetText(gsub(tipText, _G["FACTION_STANDING_LABEL"..8], replacement))
09:09.43Myrroddinsomething about REPUTATION and it's values, which is fine, since that text is needed
09:10.15TorhalBecomes                    _G.["GameTooltipTextRight" .. i]:SetText(gsub(tipText, _G.FACTION_STANDING_LABEL8, replacement))
09:11.15Myrroddinhuzzah, you fixed me! er, my code!!
09:11.22TorhalHeh.
09:12.19TorhalI'd also do: local replacement = L[E.db.PCB.reputationBar.textFormat == "P" and "P" or "Paragon"]
09:12.46Myrroddinokay, question about tooltip colours, I went all over wowpedia, google, and others...
09:12.50TorhalAnd name "i" something more context-aware such as "line" or "index"
09:13.34Myrroddindoes appending the optional 1, 1, 1 RGB change from the default colour?
09:14.00Myrroddinie, is rgb of 1, 1, 1 the default or is the original author making a change?
09:14.07TorhalFor AddLine? Yes. For :SetText, which is what you really want in this case, you need to use color-codes.
09:14.24Myrroddinokay, i'll put them in
09:15.14TorhalYou also have repeated code in your if isCapped then if friendID then elseif
09:17.01Myrroddinyes, but I haven't brained out how to remove the repetition there
09:17.01TorhalMyrroddin: https://www.wowace.com/paste/2e5869fe
09:18.21TorhalMake sense?
09:20.19TorhalMyrroddin: ?
09:20.33Myrroddinyes totally, i was going to poke at that later, because I knew I had sloppy code there
09:21.13TorhalBetter to be in the habit of being defensive than "GET THIS OUT NOW" because simple is easier to understand.
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09:22.29quiescensmoo
09:22.47Myrroddincookies
09:23.18TorhalMookies.
09:23.33Myrroddindefensive? that I don't follow. I'm not one to get my back up against a wall about my bad code LOL
09:25.27Myrroddinoh, about setting rgb as 1, 1, 1 makes no difference to leaving it out. that is apparently the default colour
09:26.54Myrroddinoops, i did something wrong. it was working now it is half working
09:27.18MyrroddinI'm seeing the text "Reputation:     Capped"
09:27.32Myrroddinbut not the name of the faction
09:28.03Myrroddinbut the failure is only for paragon factions
09:28.35TorhalMyrroddin: Defensive, as in constantly questioning whether or not you just did some horrendous copypasta to get something semi-working, or if you did due diligence when trying to reason through something.
09:28.55TorhalI'm half-drunk and I just glance-cleaned your code.
09:29.18Myrroddinwell i suppose it's a good thing that if I don't understand it i don't just copypasta it
09:29.24TorhalOkay - repaste with your changes.
09:29.33TorhalRight.
09:29.45Myrroddinand i'll definitely ask if I don't understand something
09:29.52TorhalAnd even if you do understand it, don't copypasta. Figure out if it can be cleaner.
09:30.30Myrroddinhttps://www.wowace.com/paste/1f5a43b0
09:31.07TorhalIn your original code, if you'd changed something in one block but noth the other, you'd have a discrepancy simply because once upon a time they contained completely duplicated code.
09:31.08Myrroddinthat messy code duplication was not copypasta. that was me getting something to work until i cleaned it up to work better. that's my horrid code
09:32.14TorhalYeah - that's what I was getting at. Be defensive, or self-critical, at all junctures. You'll save yourself a fuckton of heartache and "Wait..." later on.
09:35.16Myrroddinso yeah, the tooltip displays all the data for all non-paragon factions
09:35.36Myrroddinbut is missing the faction name for paragons
09:38.38Myrroddinweird. it was there before unrelated optimizations... pfft
09:40.05TorhalRevisiting.
09:40.44TorhalYeah, not seeing how it could possibly have been there.
09:40.59TorhalYour original couldn't have shown it. I mean, what you pasted to me before I optimized.
09:42.07Myrroddinyet it was, and is supposed to be...
09:42.17TorhalMyrroddin: https://www.wowace.com/paste/2e3bf874
09:42.44TorhalMyrroddin: GameTooltip:AddDoubleLine(REPUTATION .. ": ", L["Capped"])
09:43.07Torhal[04:27:18] Myrroddin:I'm seeing the text "Reputation:     Capped"
09:43.17TorhalThat's precisely what that code says to do.
09:44.24Myrroddinyes, it should say that for Best Friend, Exalted (non paragon, like guild or Stormwind
09:44.51Myrroddinand for paragon level, it should say
09:45.01MyrroddinCourt of Farondis
09:45.08Myrroddin..
09:45.22MyrroddinReputation:     Paragon
09:45.41Myrroddinthen some numbers about how much rep/rep to go, etc
09:46.06Myrroddinbecause paragons are not capped :D
09:46.18Myrroddinbut i think i spotted something... hang on, testing
09:46.19TorhalRight
09:46.32TorhalYour original code had:
09:46.34Torhal<PROTECTED>
09:46.55TorhalFor both if friendID then and also the elseif not isParagon then
09:47.49Myrroddinwhich would be correct
09:48.57Myrroddinif friendID and not isParagon then rep = capped
09:49.03TorhalI didn't change that, so no idea what changed between it working and not...
09:49.30TorhalAnywho, Myrroddin - did you look at my latest paste?
09:49.30Myrroddinelseif isParagon then replace FACTION_STANDING_LABEL8 with P or Pargaon
09:49.42TorhalActually adds a couple of lines, but makes understanding easier.
09:50.14Myrroddinhang on. yes, i pulled it up, no haven't looked at it yet. stand by :)
09:51.39TorhalWait
09:51.50TorhalYeah, that's fucked.
09:52.39TorhalMaybe not - I'm still not completely certain what you're trying to accomplish. Anyway - if isCapped is true, it clears the entire GameTooltip and ads lines. Even if isParagon is true.
09:53.20TorhalAnd if isParagon is true, it THEN iterates over the GameTooltip.
09:53.39TorhalSo if it's capped, clear. If also paragon, well, you don't have shit to iterate over.
09:54.47TorhalAlso, if both are true you're showing the tooltip twice.
09:55.00TorhalDoesn't really matter except that it smells bad.
09:58.36MyrroddinI fixed some drunk Torhal errors. now bugsack isn't giving me errors, but ...
09:58.45TorhalDrunk Torhal errors?
09:58.48Myrroddinokay, i'll poke at it for a while
09:58.56Myrroddinyou said you were half drunk! ha ha ha
09:59.17TorhalDoesn't matter. I'm not struggling to understand anything other than what you want to happen here. :D
10:01.06TorhalWhen I said "I'm half drunk" that was only to show that it took me about 30 seconds to see and fix the duplicated code, even in that state, because I've long been a practitioner of making shit as simple as possible.
10:01.13Myrroddinhttps://www.wowace.com/paste/e990ff4e
10:01.21quiescensnerf torhal
10:01.37Myrroddinthe isCapped section is fine, and working 100% now
10:01.59TorhalMyrroddin: WHat was that paste for?
10:02.04Myrroddinso i didn't repaste it
10:02.17Torhalo.O
10:02.19Myrroddinthat was the part that is still buggy
10:02.32TorhalThat was the part that you said I fixed. :P
10:02.34Myrroddinthe isParagon section is the buggy part now
10:02.41TorhalAnd look at my latest paste.
10:02.50Myrroddinyou did fix it, then we optimized, and now it broke again LOL
10:02.53TorhalMakes that part easier to understand and has fewer table lookups.
10:03.47TorhalThe part we optimized had nothing to do with the part that you're now saying is broken.
10:03.50TorhalMah brainz.
10:04.00Torhalblames quiescens.
10:04.05quiescens):
10:05.16TorhalHey, Stanzilla - stop being a hospital-bound person and give me a name for the ARL/Collectinator merge.
10:05.37StanzillaCollectinator seems perfect imo
10:05.41TorhalIf I actually do this, I'm abandoning both existing projects and pulling an NPCScan-style ground-up dealio.
10:05.55TorhalBah.
10:06.28TorhalI guess I could make a "branch" that consists of me blowing everything in Collectinator away...
10:07.15Myrroddinit's okay Torhal, I'll figure out why part of the tooltip is missing.
10:07.27Myrroddini'm just as tired as you are. less drunk though :(
10:07.33TorhalI started rewriting the ARL module system, and decided if I was going to go through that much effort I should just nuke the whole fucking deal and start over with a cohesive design instead of "rewriting" via incremental refactorings.
10:07.44Stanzillagood
10:07.45TorhalNaw, Myrroddin - I'm fine.
10:07.52Stanzillathe thousands of external modules approach was horrible
10:08.05TorhalI just don't know what you're expecting, and can only comment on the code as it exists.
10:08.41TorhalStanzilla: That was a decision Ackis and I came to after getting so fucking tired of "THIS USES SO MUCH MEMORY AND ALL I WANT IS ALCHEMY OMFGWTHBBQ"
10:09.12Stanzillabecause you did not want a reload ui when enabling a module?
10:09.15TorhalSo yeah - I split that shit out and made sure each profession module created its own tables, etcetera.
10:09.18Myrroddini'll see if I can get some screen shots
10:09.26znfShould you even care about memory usage?
10:09.29znfJust wondering
10:09.34Torhalznf: You should not.
10:09.42znfGood. Bundle it back up.
10:10.09TorhalWell, the from-scratch rewrite would do that because people are motherfucking morons.
10:10.22TorhalMost bug reports I get, or see on other projects, show "
10:10.31Torhal"Ackis Recipe List"
10:10.36TorhalThat's fucking it.
10:10.39TorhalNo modules.
10:11.08TorhalSo no goddamn wonder people stopped downloading it. They TL;DR the "You're missing the X module" dialoge.
10:11.15Stanzillarewrite the module system in collectinator, merge the ARL content as new modules using the old data?
10:11.22TorhalNo
10:11.41Stanzillawhy not
10:11.44TorhalCollectinator was completely rewritten back in 2013? using then-current ARL.
10:12.05TorhalEvery time I improved one of those, I didn't go back to the other and WRITE THE SAME FUCKING CODE AGAIN.
10:12.13Stanzillaok, I meant, do the full rewrite in collectinator
10:12.15Stanzillabut yeha
10:12.19TorhalEventually, Collectinator became antiquated again.
10:12.25TorhalYeah.
10:12.26znfrename to Torhal's Recipe List
10:12.45TorhalJust like I did in NPCScan. Nuke ALL THE FILES and then start over.
10:12.49Torhalznf: No.
10:12.56TorhalIt won't be about recipes anymore.
10:12.58quiescensbut then everyone will start pinging him at random when talking about it
10:13.02TorhalIt'll be all collectables.
10:13.08znfTorhal's Shit List
10:13.17znfas in, all the shit you can get
10:13.25TorhalHow about Goddamn Motherfucking Romanians?
10:13.52TorhalYou're the only Romanian I know, znf. So take that as a compliment. :D
10:14.03znfI'm fine with that
10:14.07Torhallol
10:14.32TorhalI've never named anything after myself, and don't intend to.
10:15.06znfname it Stanzilla's Collectables List
10:15.22TorhalI'd actually rather use a completely new name, as well, because a couple of years ago when I cut Ackis's point gains, he WTFd me.
10:15.45TorhalI was all "Dude, you haven't done shit in years and you don't even understand the code anymore..."
10:16.26TorhalSO yeah - dump both projects, start a new one that does both.
10:17.12MyrroddinTorhal, I got you some screen caps
10:17.13TorhalHow about "I Know What I Want Next Summer"?
10:17.14Torhal>.>
10:17.20Myrroddinhttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/5w70grxglpskz44/AADRvUF0m4mnatpQSp1KSbqSa?dl=0
10:17.53Stanzilladunno, I think the name just fits
10:18.01Stanzillaotherwise something like Collectionist?
10:18.20StanzillaCollection Completionist
10:18.20Stanzilla:D
10:18.35TorhalGotstaHazItz
10:18.46Myrroddinbrb then I'll explain them... should be easy enough
10:18.49Stanzillatry agaom
10:19.07Myrroddiner, i'll explain now i guess, then brb
10:19.33TorhalMyrroddin: That looks like a bunch of overlays on overlays.
10:19.42Myrroddinthe one named Capped is correct. Ironforge is not a paragon faction and I am exalted
10:19.55TorhalOkay - Stanzilla: He Has Your Shit
10:19.57Myrroddinjust where the tooltip is located. the position doesn't matter
10:20.12StanzillaTorhal's Collection Dealership
10:20.21Myrroddinbehind it is the rep bar and the minimap, i'm too lazy to crop those
10:20.28Stanzilla"Collect this shit"
10:20.38TorhalNo, Myrroddin - I literally cannot understand what's happening in those caps. It looks like a bunch of unrelated shit overlapping one another.
10:21.17TorhalUse TipTac or something to move it to a position where there isn't unrelated text.
10:21.43Myrroddinokay okay. then i'll brb
10:21.48TorhalDanke.
10:22.10TorhalStanzilla: ICanHaz?
10:22.12Torhal>.>
10:22.13Torhal<.<
10:22.22TorhalIfItFitsICollectIts?
10:22.24Torhal<.<
10:24.58quiescensgives torhal a cookie
10:25.21TorhalFuck. Does WoW have cookies? Is that something I need to track, now?
10:25.24znfCats
10:25.30znfjust call it cats
10:25.33TorhalI already collect those.
10:25.38znfexactly
10:26.00TorhalCrazyCatHoarder
10:26.00StanzillaTorhal: dude, just call it Collectionator
10:26.13TorhalStanzilla: That was Ackis's name.
10:26.14Stanzillaat least people can connect that name to the functionality
10:26.18StanzillaI DONT GIVE A FUCK
10:26.26TorhalHe does.
10:26.31Stanzilladoes he really?
10:26.41TorhalLike I said, when I cut his reward split a couple of years ago, he had a fit.
10:26.49TorhalIf I do a rewrite? I'm 100%.
10:26.55Stanzillatalk to him then
10:26.58StanzillaAckis: dont be a baby
10:27.18TorhalAnd I really mean a rewrite. As in, no existing code.
10:27.36Stanzillayeah I get it
10:28.01Myrroddincrap, it's an OnEnter script, tiptac can't grab it from Elv
10:28.26TorhalMyrroddin: TYL Elv is shit and doesn't give a fuck about non-Elv.
10:28.42TorhalOh, wait - I already told you that.
10:28.46Myrroddinthis i know
10:29.17TorhalIn this case, I did what I could do.
10:30.03TorhalThe most activity I had with ElvUI was telling one of its maintainers that he was being an asshat about EvlUI modifications to Ace3.
10:30.23TorhalHe fixed it. I consider my work to be done.
10:31.06TorhalStanzilla: Packrat?
10:31.24quiescenso.o
10:31.26TorhalAccumulator?
10:31.47StanzillaCompletionist?
10:31.52quiescensstuff
10:32.02TorhalMuthafuckinCookies
10:33.03quiescenslist of lists
10:33.22Torhaladds quiescens to a set of sets.
10:33.29quiescensdies.
10:33.36StanzillaGottaCollectThemAll
10:34.03znfname it quiescens
10:34.09znfand give quiescens 1% of the points
10:34.09TorhalCollectémon.
10:34.11StanzillaTheCollector
10:34.28TorhalBut that would imply pets.
10:34.30StanzillaCollectYourselfBeforeYouWreckYourself
10:34.47TorhalWow, Stanzilla - I had no idea you were such an asshole.
10:34.59Stanzillawhy
10:35.05TorhalDAT NAME.
10:35.07Torhal:D
10:35.13Stanzillaits like
10:35.15Stanzillaperfect
10:35.24TorhalSee?
10:35.28TorhalNo shame.
10:36.18TorhalAccumulator. Packrat. Hoarder.
10:37.08TorhalStanzillarator
10:37.27MyrroddinTorhal, okay, hopefully this is better:
10:37.29Myrroddinhttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/5w70grxglpskz44/AADRvUF0m4mnatpQSp1KSbqSa?dl=0
10:38.15TorhalOkay, Myrroddin - explain.
10:38.23TorhalBRB - paying beer rent.
10:38.38Myrroddinokay. Exalted.jpg is correct
10:38.53Myrroddinbecause IF is capped at exalted
10:39.36MyrroddinRevered.jpg is correct because it is less than exalted, even though it is paragon. it is still revered
10:40.01Myrroddinso it is good, but the name and the reputation lines are important to keep
10:40.11Myrroddinnow look at paragon.jpg
10:40.50Myrroddinthe faction name is missing and so is the rep lines providing progression data
10:41.17Myrroddinparagon.jpg is missing those two things
10:41.43TorhalMyrroddin: Paste your current code?
10:41.43Myrroddinit also incorrectly says capped when it should say paragon. it is not capped
10:42.28Myrroddinhttps://www.wowace.com/paste/65a1ddd6
10:43.24TorhalOh, Myrroddin. For fucks sake.
10:43.35Myrroddinwhaaaa what did i do??
10:43.42quiescenso.o
10:43.43TorhalNot you.
10:43.45Torhal-- Blizzard's FACTION_BAR_COLORS only has 8 entries but we'll fix that
10:43.45Torhallocal PCB_REP_BAR_COLORS = {
10:44.05Myrroddinhey, that part works like a charm
10:44.18TorhalAll they had to do? Iterate over FACTION_BAR_COLORS and then ADD THE NEW GODDAMN ENTRY.
10:44.33Myrroddinwell, yes. but that is blizzard for you
10:44.45TorhalIf Blizzard ever changes theirs? ElvUI is suddenly using outdated shit because copypasta.
10:45.05TorhalFFS.
10:45.13TorhalI so hate ElvUI.
10:45.17Myrroddinthat's why i used the blizzard constants. so if blizz ever updates i have little if not no work to fix
10:45.17znfcopy pastas Torhal
10:45.43Torhalcopy salads znf.
10:45.52hasteisn't that how ElvUI likes to operate?
10:45.53znfmmmm, salad
10:46.17Myrroddinhaste, oh i've been doing the headdesk this entire project
10:46.19Torhalhaste: If you mean "Fuck everyone else, WE ARE TEH GODZ" then yes.
10:46.32Myrroddinblazeflack on their forums has been helpful up to a point
10:47.01hastedon't forget the whole: fork everything and never contribute back
10:47.06TorhalOkay, Myrroddin - I'm going to say this again.
10:47.07Myrroddini even pointed out a couple of errors in their code but was rebuffed
10:47.38TorhalIf isCapped is true you CLEAR THE WHOLE GameTooltip. Even if isParagon is true.
10:47.57TorhalSo yes - I would expect to see only "Reputation: Capped" if both were true.
10:48.45Myrroddinisn't the isCapped section ended before i engage isParagon?
10:49.00TorhalYou ned to have "if isCapped then" and "if isParagon then" and "elseif"
10:49.09MyrroddinI can change line 63 to elseif isParagon
10:49.13Torhals/ned/need/
10:49.48TorhalYou're currently handling both in their own scopes, without care if one or the other is true.
10:50.11TorhalIf isCapped - CLEAR ALL THE THINGS, then continue with the isParagon check.
10:50.32Myrroddinah ha. i get it
10:50.49TorhalI can't tell you if that's the actual fix - you may actually care whether they're both true.
10:51.00TorhalI don't know your full intentions; I can only diagnose. :)
10:51.00Myrroddinbecause isCapped is true for both exalted and paragon, the lines are cleared
10:51.04TorhalYes.
10:51.09Myrroddinthere is no catch or else
10:51.14TorhalIndeed.
10:51.46znfhttps://imgur.com/gallery/6942M
10:51.48znfow, how cute
10:51.55TorhalSo yeah... as I said, I didn't alter your original code in any way other than streamlining. :)
10:52.04Myrroddinokay line 49 probably should read if isCapped and not isPargaon then
10:52.05TorhalYour shit was broken before it got to me.
10:52.38Myrroddinoh gods, i KNOW that LOL
10:52.42TorhalNo idea - the pastes have no line numbers for some reason.
10:52.48Myrroddinmy shit code is always broken dammit
10:53.41Torhal[04:58:36] Myrroddin:I fixed some drunk Torhal errors. now bugsack isn't giving me errors, but ... <-- This is why I said what I said.
10:53.55TorhalYou essentially blamed me for something I didn't do. :P
10:54.01Myrroddincan i plead a lack of cats and cookies?
10:54.37TorhalYou can plead, but all that's going to get you is tracking cookies from quiescens and no cats.
10:54.40TorhalI'm keeping mine,.
10:55.17TorhalYou'll get "personalized" ads and quiescens will get bajillions.
10:56.01silentiumI'd prefer personalized cats
10:56.32TorhalGoddamn it, silentium, you aren't helping.
10:56.37Myrroddinwoohooo i'm going to make quiescens so rich he can buy ALL the cats cookies. or cats' cookies. or cat's cookies
10:56.38TorhalAlso, cats personalize themselves.
10:57.21TorhalNo, Myrroddin - he'll simply make catnip cookies, then track the cat owners.
10:57.23Myrroddinsecretly lets slip that the CIA gave cats pockets for cookies
10:57.35znfso, Stanzilla
10:57.44znfI seem to be running into disk space issues on my phone :-|
10:57.53Stanzilladelete porn
10:58.00TorhalPhones have no disks.
10:58.01znfI don't have any :-(
10:58.05znfTorhal, you know what I mean
10:58.10TorhalI do.
10:58.12znfcache is ~5GB
10:58.12Stanzillabuy bigger phone
10:58.43TorhalCats, silentium. Cats: https://twitter.com/_torhal_
10:59.04silentiumyesterday the neighbors' cat has "personalized" the tip of my right middle finger when I played with him, typing with a band-aid sucks :D
10:59.22znfhmm
10:59.26Torhalsilentium: Tooth or claw? I'm assuming claw.
10:59.28silentiumyay, more cats on twitter =^_^=
10:59.29znfI think my dialer only holds 2000 call records
10:59.33znfWhy the fuck do they limit this
10:59.38Torhalsilentium: These are _my_ cats. :P
10:59.42Bluspacecowcan't run a Hairy cat man mafia without them!
10:59.43TorhalNot "random" cats.
10:59.46silentiumTorhal: claw, his bites don't hurt as much ^^
10:59.50quiescenso.o
10:59.51BluspacecowNo not random
10:59.55Bluspacecow_mafia_ cats
10:59.56Torhalsilentium: That's my experience.
11:00.09BluspacecowTorhalCat2678 : YOU DIRTY RAT!
11:00.18Bluspacecow*tommy gun noises*
11:00.53TorhalThis is the part where I awkwardly inform everyone that "Bluspacecow is from New Zealand."
11:01.04Bluspacecowyes!
11:01.27Myrroddinis that where the Exodar crashed???
11:01.45TorhalNo, Myrroddin. That would be in the center of Bluspacecow's forehead.
11:01.48Stanzillaznf: you do realize that you will only get a better answer when you come up with a real question, right?
11:02.04TorhalStanzilla: Haven't we been telling him that for years, now?
11:02.09Stanzillayes
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11:02.11Torhalk
11:02.54znfStanzilla, I didn't ask?
11:04.15TorhalMyrroddin: Is everything ok, now?
11:05.32Myrroddinabout to load the game and find out
11:06.48Myrroddini know why it was working before. i was clearing the lines in each subsection of if friendID etc
11:07.04Myrroddinthen we moved clearlines to the top. ... game loading
11:07.43TorhalMyrroddin: No?
11:07.59Myrroddinoh right. i accidentally moved the rep bar off screen because silly elv doesn't use clamptoscreen
11:08.06TorhalYou were clearing the lines in the if and the elseif - so they were being cleared no matter what.
11:08.08Myrroddini have to find it in the sv and fix it
11:08.33TorhalAll I did was move the clearlines to the top _because_ it was being done no matter what.
11:08.34znfStanzilla, so, how the hell can I easily find out where my internal storage space went? CCleaner does a shitty job.
11:08.40Myrroddingive me a minute or two to wade thru the svs
11:08.46Torhal:P
11:08.52TorhalMyrroddin: Nuke the SVs.
11:08.53Torhal>.>
11:10.32Stanzillaznf: dunno, use a random file manager I guess?
11:11.19znfthey somehow all manage to suck balls, for some reasons
11:11.45znfI need something like SpaceMonger for Android
11:11.58Stanzillassh in :D
11:12.06TorhalI'd always thought "sucking balls" was a prime example of something to use.
11:12.32Myrroddinyes it is working now :D
11:12.44Myrroddinand i didn't have to bork my sv file
11:14.05znfoh there we go
11:14.12MyrroddinTorhal for all the crap I give you, I'm sorry. really honestly sorry
11:14.13znfstupid es file explorer had a recycle bin function
11:14.20Myrroddinbecause you sir are a saviour
11:15.05Myrroddinimagine. all this headache because i can't stand bliz's faction bar colours
11:15.06TorhalMyrroddin: :P
11:15.12Myrroddinthey are sooooooooo boring
11:15.14TorhalSon't apologize. Think.
11:16.41Myrroddinon the plus side, the xp bar and rep bars are done
11:17.17Myrroddinthe only thing I couldn't figure out is how to force the xp bar to show "progress" at max level
11:17.41Myrroddini did set min max values to 0, 1 and value to 1 at max level but it didn't do anything
11:17.48Myrroddini'm not too concerned about it though
11:20.36TorhalStanzilla: Needful Things
11:20.41znfwhat are you doing Myrroddin?
11:20.51znf*looks at Myrroddin*
11:20.55znfare you fixing Xparky?
11:21.05Myrroddincan Xparky be fixed?
11:21.06TorhalHe's brute-forcing code to do what he wants instead of sitting back with a game plan. :D
11:21.21Myrroddinthat too
11:21.34znfor, rather, Broker_XPBar
11:21.35znf:P
11:21.41StanzillaTorhal: nah
11:22.00TorhalBut these are things that people "need" Stanzilla.
11:22.03Torhal...
11:22.04Torhal>.>
11:22.05Torhal<.<
11:22.08StanzillaTorhal: nah
11:23.07Myrroddinznf i'm also trying to code past both blizzard and ElvUI ... yikes!
11:23.15znfshift+delete ElvUI
11:23.17Myrroddinand with no supportive cats or cookies
11:23.20quiescensdo a barrel roll
11:23.38Torhalrolls quiescens around in a barrel of cookies.
11:25.03Myrroddinwhy am i craving cookies?? that's quiescens thing
11:25.07TorhalMyrroddin: I'm unsure if you're aware, but I also have two three-month-old polydactyl kittens.
11:25.26TorhalSeven toes on the front, five on the back.
11:25.35Myrroddini know kittens, but what are polydactycl kittens?
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11:26.06Myrroddinbesides something from the jurassic world sequel?
11:27.42silentiumMyrroddin: mutated monster kittens with even more claws to shred you
11:27.43TorhalMyrroddin: Cats have four toes on each foot. Polydactyl cats have extra toes. In the case of mine, three extra on the front and one extra on the back.
11:28.06Myrroddinso they are adorably deadly. got it
11:28.21Myrroddini expect them to have guest starring roles on CSI
11:29.04TorhalSometimes, as is the case in mine, the extra toes in the front exhibit themselves as "thumbs"
11:29.37TorhalSo yeah - normal cat paws plus an extra side-paw with three toes.
11:30.18Stanzillahas to be the 12th time Torhal has to explain this
11:30.46TorhalWell, Stanzilla, either Myrroddin wasn't here previously or he's ADHD.
11:30.58Myrroddinwhat? gopher!
11:31.00Stanzillaboth
11:31.00TorhalI'm guesing both.
11:31.03Torhallolol
11:31.32Myrroddinanyway, what are protomesanine kittens?
11:31.35silentiumTorhal: five toes on the front paws and four on the hind paws are normal, so yours have "only" two more on the front ;)
11:31.40Myrroddinooo shiny!
11:31.50Torhalsilentium: I wasn't counting the dewclaw.
11:31.59TorhalThat's upward at the back.
11:32.12MyrroddinTorhal that is kind of cute. I've never heard of cats like that
11:32.25TorhalThey have the four normals, then on the side like a thumb there are three extra.
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11:32.34silentiumTorhal: oh, so they have seven and *then* the dewclaw? wow
11:32.55TorhalMyrroddin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydactyl_cat
11:33.06Stanzillathat
11:33.13Stanzillas because you never talked to the catxpert
11:33.42Myrroddinnot fair. that is more cuteness than hoomans can handle!
11:34.00Torhalsilentium: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ1SnNLUEAAGkBX.jpg
11:34.50Stanzillado you have keybinds for your twitter bio and images already?
11:35.03silentiumTorhal: I've seen the picture, but the toes are a bit hard to count with all the fur
11:35.05TorhalStanzilla: No, I've been typing for three decades.
11:35.12Stanzilladamn son
11:35.15Torhalsilentium: Heh, true.
11:35.30Stanzillaznf: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/03/htcs-upcoming-u11-life-android-one-phone-specs-leak/
11:35.42znflolhtc
11:36.14znfyou know they'll price it at 500
11:36.20znfbecause that's what HTC does
11:39.34Torhalsilentium: The record for a polydactyl is 28 toes.
11:40.05TorhalMine weigh in at 22. :)
11:40.19TorhalErr, 24.
11:41.05TorhalWell, 26 if you count the dewclaw, which nobody does.
11:41.43Stanzillayou should do a vlog
11:41.48Stanzillaso you can just link it to new people
11:42.01TorhalI hate people, though, Stanzilla.
11:42.05Bluspacecow_so torhal's cats can count to 22
11:42.07Bluspacecow_interesting
11:42.14Bluspacecow_makes hide and seek interesting
11:42.19Stanzillayou love telling your story though
11:42.22TorhalAnd I hate putting on a show, which a vlog would require.
11:42.51Stanzilla:D
11:43.14TorhalStanzilla: Nah, I try to only tell people I know. And then, people show up who love cats. And there it goes.
11:43.23TorhalI know you fuckers.
11:43.28Stanzillawas just joking around
11:43.32TorhalAnd Myrroddin wasn't here. Nor was silentium.
11:43.38StanzillaI just feel like I read the story 4x the last few days
11:43.38TorhalAh.
11:44.05TorhalDays? Last I told it was when they showed up at the house. Over a month ago.
11:44.07Torhal:P
11:44.31silentiumwho doesn't love cats? heartless monsters ;p
11:44.46StanzillaI really want one again
11:44.54TorhalThere are actually people who think of cats as vermin.
11:44.57Stanzillastill feels like I would "replace" my old guy in my heart though
11:45.00Stanzillahave to get over that :<
11:45.34TorhalYou really do, Stanzilla. Every cat I've ever had (notice I did NOT say owned) has had a completely different "personality"
11:45.48TorhalI guess I should say "individuality"
11:45.58Myrroddinserver shutdown coming up. good time as any to stop coding
11:46.06TorhalMyrroddin: Fuck off.
11:46.12TorhalCode away. Wait it out.
11:46.13Myrroddinand go get munching and crunching
11:46.36TorhalYou don't have to /reloadui on every change if you have a plan.
11:46.59Myrroddinin totally other news I managed to get my Ryzen 1700x liquid cooled up to 3.875 GHz
11:47.22TorhalI don't care, Myrroddin - you failed to cool the Earth. You fail.
11:47.29Myrroddinjust couldn't get it to 3900 and higher was right out
11:47.34TorhalYou're letting Trump win.
11:48.00Myrroddinuh oh. does that mean Arrow will come after me claiming "You have failed the earth" or something?
11:48.24TorhalNaw, man. Just the Special Forces, dressed as Stephen Amell.
11:48.31MyrroddinoO
11:48.46quiescenso.o
11:48.49Myrroddini'm a goner even if i did save the cheerleader?
11:49.18TorhalOf course, Myrroddin - she died in childbirth, anyway, with the revival.
11:49.39MyrroddinTorhal the good news is that the honor and arty bars *should* be a lot easier. no tooltip hooking
11:49.46Myrroddini never watched the revival ha ha
11:50.20TorhalNeither did I. But as soon as I found out that the chick who could REGROW A FUCKING TOE died in childbirth?
11:50.24TorhalI noped the fuck out.
11:50.35Myrroddinthey are easier because all i have to is set their alpha channels to max/min and give users choice of colour
11:51.10Myrroddinand that's it. no fucking around with deep ElvUI hooking cuts
11:51.38TorhalWell, Myrroddin... I'm proud of you. You decided to not follow ElvUI's example.
11:51.38Torhal>.>
11:51.55Myrroddin.... which example?
11:52.06Myrroddinsince there are more than a few
11:52.35TorhalThe one where they hook everything regardless of effects? Where they fork libraries and only up the MINOR version? Where they....................
11:53.15StanzillaI feel like I read that 4 times in the last few days as well
11:53.25Myrroddinoh god no. and TBH if they break my addon because of some stupid decision they make, well, i won't be in a rush to adjust my code
11:53.45TorhalGranted, Blazeflack did listen to my fix for the brokenness by actualy changing the MAJOR to Ace3-ElvUI...
11:53.54Myrroddini'm only doing this because i'm currently using elv and i hate some of blizzard's colours
11:54.32TorhalMyrroddin: For a long time, my answer to "This is broken and I use ElvUI" was "Don't use ElvUI."
11:54.45TorhalNow? I don't see that anymore.
11:54.52Myrroddini actually remember that on the old curse forums LOL
11:54.56TorhalHeh.
11:55.37Myrroddini'm just being lazy ... up to a point. it's when lazy and "can't stand to look at it" diverge that I do coding
11:56.11Myrroddincase in point, i have abandoned smartres. i don't even use it anymore. sure i get users complaining, but .. meh?
11:58.32TorhalMyrroddin: You either do or you don't - you should be getting emails if they do.
11:59.02TorhalI thought that was largely irrelevant these days.
12:00.55TorhalStanzilla: Get another cat. If it's a kitten? Also get its sibling.
12:01.35TorhalThe cat cannot replace your previous cat because THEY ARE INDIVIDUALS.
12:01.40Torhal:P
12:01.44TorhalFucker.
12:01.52Stanzillayeah
12:01.56Stanzillastill hard
12:02.20Myrroddinit is largely irrelevant. the only things it still brings are the "smart" casts for single target resses and adding/removing/printing random messages
12:02.39TorhalI know. The poppa of most of my current cats was, what Kelly thought from pictures she'd seen, our cat.
12:02.39Myrroddinand the first thing is mostly pointless because of the way mass res works now
12:03.25TorhalStanzilla: I was totally against this. Cosmo ended up being great, and not at all like Merlin.
12:03.54TorhalAnd he gave us a bunch of "not like Merlin OR Cosmo" cats.
12:04.50Stanzillamy first cat was named merlin :D
12:04.56TorhalHehehe
12:05.26TorhalAnyway, my point is this: Kelly thought she found Merlin, even though it was over an hour away in a car.
12:05.31TorhalI was pised, said no.
12:05.46TorhalShe brought him anyway. It turned out awesome.
12:06.04TorhalI still miss Merlin. He's been gone five years.
12:06.07Stanzillayeah guess I have to think about it
12:06.14Stanzillanot sure because of my allergies though
12:06.19TorhalAh.
12:12.46FiskerI need to escape some escaped escapes
12:13.28StanzillaI suggest medical treatment
12:16.36TorhalStanzilla: Shock therapy?
12:17.39Stanzillagood example
12:17.54Torhalk
12:20.39MyrroddinTorhal you know what surprises me the most about you poking at my code? finding out bliz only has 8 entries on the faction colors table hahahahahaha
12:21.49TorhalMyrroddin: Since I'm not familiar with that, I cannot comment. Paragon isn't really a reputation level, is it?
12:22.01Myrroddinwhich in the end is doubly stupid because they only actually have 2 colors. green and grey
12:22.29Myrroddini guess not, but you'd think they would have 8 colours, not 2
12:22.43Torhalo.O
12:22.51TorhalI thought you just said they had 8.
12:23.16Myrroddinthere are 8 in the table, but when you look at the bars using their colours, i only see 2
12:23.42Myrroddinmaybe the shades are so subtle i can't pick them out, but if so, isn't that even worse?
12:23.47TorhalCan you show me? I'm afraid you might have your context skewed.
12:24.18TorhalAs in - eight actual colors. Only two used in a SPECIFIC case.
12:24.38Myrroddinhttps://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/24974/ReputationFrame.lua
12:24.54Myrroddinthere are 8 distinct colours listed at the top of that file
12:25.13TorhalI see that. Now, where are they only using two?
12:25.47Myrroddinlet me clarify: they are using all 8, but visually (to me at least) only 2 appear
12:26.08Myrroddinthere is no visual distinction except for green and grey
12:26.22Myrroddini am colour blind, but not *that* colour blind
12:26.23Stanzilladid you consider that you might be color blind
12:26.28Stanzillaok. case closed
12:27.34Myrroddini can't remember the official term, but i am red/green blind
12:27.49Stanzillared/green blindness
12:27.54Myrroddini can tell them apart, like at traffic lights
12:28.10Myrroddinyeah, it is called something like deutonia or something
12:30.23TorhalMyrroddin: https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/24974/GameTooltip.lua
12:30.27Myrroddinanyway, i hunger. going for sustenance. since I haven't grocery shopped yet and ate the last food a few hours ago
12:30.58TorhalMyrroddin: https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/24974/GameTooltip.lua#38
12:31.45Myrroddinheheheh. you missed my point. yes bliz has colours, but I can't see them.
12:32.01Myrroddinone of the reasons i'm pulling my hair out with this addon
12:32.09Torhalkk
12:32.32TorhalYou said they only had two, and in your particular case that may be true
12:32.39Myrroddinfor blizzard, i can see red, green, and grey. i don't see  any blue hues in their rep bars
12:32.40TorhalIn other cases?
12:32.46TorhalGotcha.
12:33.34Myrroddini sometimes struggle with mistress? maiden? in ToS with the energy balls
12:33.58Myrroddini have to pay close attention to the texture of the energy balls because they both look yellow to me
12:34.14Bluspacecow_mmmm balls
12:34.20TorhalIf you'd stop pissing in them, Myrroddin...
12:34.33Myrroddinoh god dammit, why stop now???
12:34.38Torhal¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12:36.19Myrroddinnext you will tell me to stop feeding quiescens cookies or other nonsense
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12:42.57Myrroddinquiescens sells cookies to the girl guides
12:43.35TorhalNo, Myrroddin - quiescens sells Girl Scouts for cookies, whilst simultaneously stealing _their_ cookies.
12:44.23Myrroddino.O
12:44.49Myrroddini sense a quiescens - girl guides - cookie monster smuggling and cookie ring
12:46.56Torhalpickles Myrroddin in Lua.
12:49.30Myrroddinnooooooooooo
12:50.22TorhalGoddamn it, Myrroddin - http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
12:50.31Myrroddinbefore i go for the food, i watched the first 3 episode of star trek discovery. and .... underwhelmed
12:51.27Myrroddinthey only character i like is that death-sensing alien
12:51.42TorhalMyrroddin: Whatever. I don't look at it as Classic Star Trek in any sense of the word. I look at it as a completely serialized version.
12:51.51TorhalAnd it works, for me.
12:52.27TorhalAlso, Myrroddin...
12:52.38Myrroddini'll keep watching it for a while, see what happens. it isn't so terrible that i'd abandon it already
12:52.55TorhalIf you're looking for the old shit, or at least the feel... there is always this: http://www.startrekcontinues.com/
12:53.03TorhalWhich, BTW, I heartily recommend.
12:53.19Myrroddini've heard of it. seen a few clips on YT
12:53.26TorhalScotty's son plays Scotty.
12:53.50TorhalThey switch Bones's actor once before keeping him.
12:54.06TorhalBut yeah, once you get over the whole "Not teh same people!
12:54.15TorhalIt's TOS.
12:54.22TorhalThey goddamn nail it.
12:54.51TorhalThe attention to detail is fucking phenominal.
12:55.37TorhalI think they're at 8 episodes now, since 2014, and I believe they're laying it down afterward.
12:57.42TorhalEpisode 1 is even a continuation of an actual TOS episode, with the original actor 30 years later.
12:58.22TorhalLou Ferrigno is in episode 2 or 3.
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13:03.02Gnarfozbut... if it's TOS, why would I watch it? :p
13:03.22Megalonbecause it's TOS, obviously
13:03.29TorhalIf you're a German arsehole, why would I care?
13:05.35Bluspacecow_TOS?
13:05.37Bluspacecow_Toast!
13:05.40Bluspacecow_mmm toast!
13:05.55Torhalfloats Bluspacecow_.
13:06.05quiescensgives blu a cookie
13:06.26Bluspacecow_ooooooooo
13:06.29Bluspacecow_imma ghost
13:06.31Bluspacecow_with a cookie
13:06.37Bluspacecow_an upbeat ghost!
13:09.30Gnarfozznf: I see no error? when you're doing openssl connect -verify, you should also specify -CApath, or it won't know where to look for the stuff up the chain from your cert
13:09.55Torhalflies his ship as close to the nearest star as is possible, then launches Bluspacecow_ into the star.
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13:10.50Bluspacecow_weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
13:13.06TorhalI'll take it all back, Bluspacecow_, if you convince Myrroddin to give ST: C a chance.
13:14.24Bluspacecow_give an STD a chance ? are you kidding me ?
13:15.41Bluspacecow_would help if I knew which star trek show you were referring to ...
13:16.04TorhalBluspacecow_: http://www.startrekcontinues.com/
13:16.26TorhalIf you ignore the fact that it's completely different actors? It's goddamn TOS.
13:16.38TorhalThe attention to detail is that goddamn good.
13:17.00Bluspacecow_Star Trek Continues - when trekkie actors cosplay
13:17.27Bluspacecow_wtf. why is Q in episode 9 ?
13:17.57TorhalNot cosplay.
13:18.08TorhalThey spent ENORMOUS time replicating everything.
13:18.12TorhalEven the lighting.
13:18.21TorhalAnd the 4:3 aspect ratio.
13:18.38Bluspacecow_so it's like fanfiction only with cameras
13:18.48TorhalIt really feels like TOS.
13:19.30TorhalBluspacecow_: It's fan-fiction where Eugene Roddenberry said "OMFG" and the Scotty actor's son plays Scotty.
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15:26.41znfGnarfoz, it should use /etc/ssl/certs by default, and it did use
15:26.49znfGnarfoz, I replaced my intermediary and it worked
15:27.51znfI'm still not entirely sure, because I'm 100% sure I had the same intermediary crap already installed - judging by the fact that update-ca-certificates --fresh reports the file I changed as a duplicate now
15:38.25quiescenswhat did you break this time?
15:41.27znfssl
15:43.28znfglobally, for the whole world
15:43.51quiescenswhy would you do that o.o
15:50.30znfI didn't
15:50.37znfdebian/ubuntu did :(
15:51.07Gnarfozwell, if that's where your certs are and your openssl is indeed configured/compiled to do that... I know mine isn't
15:51.49Gnarfoz(and the verify error is being pretty clear about it as well, it couldn't find the top level CA, so either your intermediate is now issued by a different root CA, or... don't know. a different key maybe.)
15:54.35MyrroddinI watched the first episode of STC and ... it's good!
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16:00.28znfGnarfoz, I just couldn't debug it properly because from any other system it worked fine
16:00.32znfjust from the local server didn't
16:00.44Gnarfozit's DSC, btw
16:00.57znfand I've no idea how the openssl command actually works locally
16:01.02znfalso, it's STD!
16:01.16Gnarfozit's DSC, not sure why anyone would disagree
16:01.40GnarfozI think I linked the tweet before :p
16:02.13znfwhat tweet?
16:02.26Gnarfozhttps://twitter.com/jvancitters/status/756983274208198656
16:02.35Gnarfozthose are the official abbreviations
16:02.46Gnarfoz(yes, most people say VOY, that doesn't change anything :P)
16:03.27Gnarfoz(VP of Product Development at CBS, who own Star Trek)
16:04.05Gnarfozoh
16:04.08znfdon't care
16:04.09GnarfozI missed some scrollback xD
16:04.16Gnarfozhe was talking about that TOS fanfic thing
16:09.38znfVGR makes the whole thing moot
16:09.43znfcommunity picks the name!
16:09.45znfnot the vp
16:15.25quiescensto be fair, none of the others had the ST as part of their short name
16:29.39Megaloni like STD
16:29.43Megalonas an abbreviation
16:30.04Megalonand why is voyager VGR and not VOY
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16:48.07Myrroddinsells STD to CBS
16:53.06Stanzillawaves
16:58.48Funkeh`stan wants some STD action
16:59.36znfman, people have really gotten better in FFA in Overwatch
16:59.44znfor they swapped my bracket to a higher league where I suck balls
17:17.18quiescensaren't you supposed to be complaining about bad teammates
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17:34.28winkscrew your fancy official abbreviations
17:34.45winkit's "Archer-Enterprise" and "the new Star Trek" :P
17:45.40Myrroddinsells star trek voyager to quiescens for cookies
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18:23.49Torhalsells Myrroddin to wink for Science.
18:24.22MyrroddinTorhal you were correct. that star trek continues is far better than discovery
18:25.27TorhalDoes it continue with discovery, though, Myrroddin? >.>
18:25.47MyrroddinI simply do not care :P
18:26.14TorhalTIL Myrroddin is a non-caring individual.
18:26.39MyrroddinI sold my soul for rock n roll
18:27.06Torhaltosses Myrroddin into the "Unauthorized Singles" bin.
18:27.43Myrroddinawww poop
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18:32.18Myrroddinwell i am off until raid time in about 7.5 hours or so
18:32.50Myrroddinin the meantime, may your kittehs not kill you when you aren't looking
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23:25.17znf>chr 𝕸
23:25.17Catal1naError: '\xf0\x9d\x95\xb8' is not a valid integer.
23:35.01znfI wonder if I can find a used N64 with 4 controllers
23:35.03znfon ebay
23:35.05znfand mario kart
23:36.06znfoh, plenty, actually
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