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| 06:02.40 | Fisker | I miss Stanzilla |
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| 11:33.28 | nevcairiel | is it just me, or does discovery get better with every episode |
| 11:45.33 | Megalon | nope, just you! |
| 11:46.47 | nevcairiel | thats fine, too |
| 11:57.27 | Kalroth | i agree, the storyline does improve |
| 11:57.37 | Kalroth | mainly because it wasn't super strong to begin with :P |
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| 16:08.14 | quiescens | to be fair shows that manage to start really well tend to be pretty rare |
| 16:08.43 | quiescens | its pretty hard to make a show stick when people don't know the characters at all i guess |
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| 16:35.47 | znf | I finally finished Altered Carbon last night |
| 16:35.57 | znf | Overall pretty good. |
| 16:36.21 | znf | The only part that was annoying was the overly long show-down and bad-ass-chick explaining her whole master-plan. |
| 16:36.36 | znf | that part was a bit of a stretch |
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| 18:12.40 | quiescens | you say finally but it feels like you just started watching it a little while ago |
| 18:13.34 | nevcairiel | its only 10 episodes, and a web series (ie. all release at once) |
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| 19:23.42 | Primer | Thanks for the spoilers |
| 19:24.40 | Torhal | [13:44:09] znf:basically: "All Rights Reserved, unless I don't commit anything for 1 year, then nevcairiel/Torhal gets to do whatever" |
| 19:24.45 | Torhal | UWOT |
| 19:25.40 | Torhal | Ans yes, nevcairiel - Discovery gets better with every episode. Not looking forward to when the diminishing returns kick in. |
| 19:26.41 | nevcairiel | technically DR would not mean it gets w orse, just less better |
| 19:26.42 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:45.57 | Gnarfoz | I actually found last episode pretty slow compared to the others before it |
| 19:46.17 | Gnarfoz | lots of tying up loose ends and loosening new ones |
| 19:47.30 | nevcairiel | slow doesnt necessarily mean bad, it opened up the story to a lot of potential |
| 19:49.30 | Gnarfoz | right, but still, I found that they basically spent the entire episode on doing just two things, one of which was inevitable and the other one obvious/could have been less pseudo-surprising |
| 19:49.58 | Gnarfoz | I had a distinct "well, they had to do this on screen, I guess" feeling when it was done ^^ |
| 20:18.10 | Torhal | Better than having znf feel you on-screen, Gnarfoz. |
| 20:45.21 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: does babble fall back to the english string if a translation is missing? |
| 20:46.37 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 20:48.31 | nevcairiel | not that its really going to help you, most of the babble things are for translating things actually in the game, so if its missing, its just going to not work :D |
| 21:05.07 | Stanzilla | yeah well we got https://www.wowace.com/projects/weakauras-2/issues/1089 |
| 21:05.19 | Stanzilla | and french has no translation in the lib atm |
| 21:08.35 | Stanzilla | and I thought it would fall back to enUS in that case |
| 21:20.38 | nevcairiel | thats a warning though, execution continues |
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| 22:26.18 | Funkeh` | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AV1-FOSDEM-2018 |
| 22:27.47 | Funkeh` | apple joining. no wonder mpeg see's the writing on the wall |
| 23:45.44 | Gnarfoz | good omens |
| 23:45.57 | Gnarfoz | too bad the spec isn't even finalized, yet |
| 23:46.32 | Gnarfoz | so probably another 2-5 years until we see it in the wild? maybe. |
| 23:46.44 | Funkeh` | we'll have av1 by h2 this year |
| 23:46.52 | Gnarfoz | we != the wild |
| 23:47.02 | Funkeh` | i don't care about the wild! |
| 23:47.11 | Funkeh` | i care about meee |
| 23:47.33 | Gnarfoz | do you also care abotu mini-meee? |
| 23:47.42 | Funkeh` | no fuck him |
| 23:47.55 | Gnarfoz | curel Funkeh is cruel |
| 23:47.58 | Gnarfoz | .av1 |
| 23:48.21 | Gnarfoz | .mkv.xvid.avi.mov |
| 23:48.28 | Funkeh` | technically it's .mkv or .webm |
| 23:48.47 | Gnarfoz | technically it's whatever the fuck we want, hopefully they're not also inventing another container format |
| 23:49.00 | Gnarfoz | xkcd 927 applies |
| 23:49.02 | Funkeh` | not to my knowledge |
| 23:49.21 | Funkeh` | mkv, webm, rtp/webrtc |
| 23:50.07 | Funkeh` | and afaik opus for audip |
| 23:50.11 | Funkeh` | audio |
| 23:50.22 | nevcairiel | h2 this year? they would have to start encoding the first movie now to even be done encoding from the slowness of that thing =p |
| 23:50.32 | Funkeh` | harsh |
| 23:50.36 | Gnarfoz | just use The Cloud |
| 23:50.51 | nevcairiel | its the truth, its years away from practical usage |
| 23:50.54 | Gnarfoz | 1 frame per Cloud |
| 23:51.02 | Gnarfoz | massive parallelism! lolol |
| 23:51.37 | Funkeh` | it's due this year, i'm guessing h2 because it's basically done short of the outstanding issues, I don't think encoding speed is a blocker |
| 23:51.57 | nevcairiel | the spec being done doesnt mean shit for video codecs |
| 23:52.05 | Gnarfoz | webm seems pretty superfluous, considering it's a subset of mkv, but I only read wikipedia, so I basically know as much about it as Trump does about running a country |
| 23:53.10 | nevcairiel | the spec only outlines the tools you have to efficiently code video, it takes a lot of work to actually make an encoder that fully utilizes all those tools to efficiently encode videos, and in any persons lifetime at that |
| 23:53.32 | Gnarfoz | ^ see also why HEVC is barely being used |
| 23:53.45 | nevcairiel | current tests put av1 at decent potential quality |
| 23:53.53 | Funkeh` | the idea it wil take another 5 years to get an encoder out when you have all these companies behind it seems a bit of a stretch |
| 23:53.59 | nevcairiel | but .. its about 2500-3000x slower then its competition (namely hevc) |
| 23:54.20 | Gnarfoz | which is another how many times slower than x264 doing h264? ^^ |
| 23:54.20 | nevcairiel | 3000x is a whole lot of times |
| 23:54.46 | nevcairiel | maybe another 10 |
| 23:54.57 | Funkeh` | yes, it will get better over time, but I don't think people will be waiting for that, speed will end up being an incremental improvement imo |
| 23:55.08 | nevcairiel | not at the current speed |
| 23:55.12 | nevcairiel | its unusably slow |
| 23:55.12 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: "behind it" might just mean "yeah, we're going to use it as well, when the time comes" |
| 23:55.33 | Gnarfoz | let's hope it doesn't |
| 23:55.49 | nevcairiel | processing power also costs money, and once it outweighs the bandwidth saved.. |
| 23:56.14 | Funkeh` | for decoding? |
| 23:57.33 | Gnarfoz | I think he meant encoding |
| 23:57.43 | Gnarfoz | let's hope "we get to stop paying royalties to MPEG-LA and others" outweighs "but we have to spend a bunch of money to re-encode all our masters to a new format, in slow motion" sooner, rather than later |
| 23:57.49 | Gnarfoz | no idea what kind of figures they're paying |
| 23:58.48 | Gnarfoz | TV manufacturers are the fucked ones here, heh... they can't really afford to stop supporting playback of older media early, so they'll have to keep paying |