| 00:39.56 | Stanzilla | find the error https://i.imgur.com/I7PO6rE.png |
| 00:41.26 | Funkeh` | LibBackdrop |
| 00:41.39 | Stanzilla | close |
| 00:42.35 | Stanzilla | somehow the packager thought Libs/LibBackdrop-1.0: git://git.wowace.com/wow/libbackdrop-1-0/mainline.git |
| 00:42.40 | Stanzilla | means package LibTextDump |
| 00:42.42 | Stanzilla | so idea why |
| 00:43.30 | Funkeh` | you're using the git handlers |
| 00:43.36 | Funkeh` | instead of https |
| 00:43.45 | Stanzilla | nah, that was just old, it all redirects |
| 00:43.57 | Stanzilla | happens with Libs/LibBackdrop-1.0: https://repos.wowace.com/wow/libbackdrop-1-0 as well |
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| 00:46.18 | Funkeh` | the latest zip contains LibTextDump instead of LibBackdrop |
| 00:46.27 | Funkeh` | have you actually checked the repo aint fucked? |
| 00:46.30 | Stanzilla | no lol |
| 00:47.33 | Stanzilla | it was Torhal |
| 00:47.34 | Stanzilla | LOL |
| 00:47.40 | Funkeh` | nice |
| 00:48.09 | nebula | quick, claim the file |
| 00:48.15 | Stanzilla | hahahah |
| 00:48.17 | Phixion | :D |
| 00:48.24 | Stanzilla | man this is way too funny |
| 00:48.33 | Funkeh` | september 19 2017 |
| 00:48.37 | Funkeh` | gg |
| 00:49.22 | Stanzilla | the history makes zero sense |
| 00:49.54 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/YI6Epj6.png |
| 00:50.01 | Stanzilla | but the files are not there |
| 00:51.28 | Stanzilla | how is this even possible |
| 00:51.46 | Torhal | That doesn't make any sense. I never touched LibBackDrop. Isn't that a Kagaro thing? |
| 00:51.53 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 00:52.15 | Stanzilla | the repo has the history of libbackdrop and libtextdump combined |
| 00:52.24 | Torhal | Dafuq |
| 00:52.30 | Funkeh` | did you fuck up a push |
| 00:54.10 | Torhal | I don't see how, since I've never used that library and would have no reason to check it out locally. |
| 00:56.14 | Stanzilla | I think I found it |
| 00:56.21 | Stanzilla | https://i.imgur.com/uOWxMBq.png |
| 00:56.25 | Stanzilla | there is a symlink |
| 00:56.27 | Stanzilla | to a different ref |
| 00:57.18 | Stanzilla | could that be it? |
| 00:57.24 | Torhal | I let the site devs know so they can take a look. |
| 01:00.01 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Not sure what's up, there. I did a clone on macOS and don't see a symlink. |
| 01:00.12 | Stanzilla | okay |
| 01:00.14 | Torhal | But the detached head is definitely there. |
| 01:03.05 | Funkeh` | hey Torhal can I hate you |
| 01:03.18 | Torhal | I was under the impression you hated everything. |
| 01:03.26 | nevcairiel | he does, so dont feel special |
| 01:03.30 | Torhal | k |
| 01:03.55 | Funkeh` | when will wowace repos use the twitch logins |
| 01:04.04 | Funkeh` | because like, I can no longer access them |
| 01:04.18 | Stanzilla | use your old login |
| 01:04.19 | Stanzilla | works fine |
| 01:04.22 | nevcairiel | why would you lose your credentials anyway |
| 01:04.42 | Funkeh` | deleted it a while back |
| 01:05.07 | Torhal | Oh |
| 01:05.38 | Funkeh` | wasn't the deadline for curseforge logins like last month |
| 01:05.41 | Torhal | You can totally fix that. Go to the site, hover over your avatar on the navbar, then select My Account. |
| 01:05.51 | Torhal | Then go to API Token. Make one. That's your new password for repos. |
| 01:05.52 | Funkeh` | hm |
| 01:06.13 | Torhal | I'd thought there was an announcement made for that. :/ |
| 01:06.31 | nevcairiel | so basically, you are incapable of tieing that to the logins? :p |
| 01:06.50 | Torhal | I don't know what the issue is with that, honestly. |
| 01:07.15 | Torhal | I haven't been a dev for that stuff in about two years now so I'm way behind the times. |
| 01:07.58 | Funkeh` | never did get an answer on wowace uploads either :/ |
| 01:12.15 | Stanzilla | ok this is fucked up, I put a copy of LibBackdrop up on Github and pointed pkgmeta to it |
| 01:12.24 | Stanzilla | kgpanels still pulls in libtextdump |
| 01:12.40 | nevcairiel | did you use the same screwed up repository |
| 01:12.57 | Stanzilla | yeah I guess I can force push it clean? |
| 01:13.23 | nevcairiel | you should probably delete the detached branch somehow |
| 01:13.32 | Torhal | Devs are on it. |
| 01:13.36 | Stanzilla | I don't see it anywhere |
| 01:14.15 | Stanzilla | I only see master? |
| 01:15.58 | nevcairiel | according to your screenshot there is tags on that branch, so probably delete those |
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| 01:19.32 | Stanzilla | yeah probably |
| 01:22.17 | Stanzilla | Funkeh`: nice changelog, mate https://i.imgur.com/QWOBYxg.png |
| 01:22.37 | Funkeh` | not my problem |
| 01:22.41 | Funkeh` | shit wowace packager |
| 01:22.47 | Stanzilla | shit Twitch app |
| 01:22.55 | Funkeh` | why can't it read newlines |
| 01:23.25 | Stanzilla | Torhal: tell me when they fix it, my fork is fixed and I use that for now |
| 01:25.22 | Stanzilla | thanks Funkeh` https://paste2.org/HnkGB55B |
| 01:25.50 | Funkeh` | rofl |
| 01:26.41 | nevcairiel | did you change a library without testing it ? :p |
| 01:26.52 | Stanzilla | he did |
| 01:27.09 | Funkeh` | i did, i removed the global name afterwards |
| 01:27.19 | Funkeh` | but ofc, Blizz requiring a global name for a fucking template |
| 01:27.29 | nevcairiel | unless its a really modern template |
| 01:30.10 | nebula | most templates require a name, silly |
| 01:30.20 | nebula | stop asking dan for stupid shit |
| 01:30.22 | nebula | jeez |
| 01:30.30 | Funkeh` | it's his todo |
| 01:30.34 | Funkeh` | he has like 1k things on it |
| 01:31.11 | nebula | i'm sure he has a special list for you, too, that he stores in /dev/null |
| 01:32.02 | Funkeh` | I ahve a special list for you |
| 01:32.05 | Funkeh` | it's in a branch |
| 01:37.06 | Funkeh` | Stanzilla: it still says "processing" how did you even download it |
| 01:38.22 | Stanzilla | ¯_(ã)_/¯ |
| 01:39.09 | Funkeh` | https://www.wowace.com/projects/libdbicon-1-0/files the later one is approved wat |
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| 03:15.48 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Try now. |
| 03:16.00 | quiescens | what did you break? |
| 03:18.10 | Stanzilla | Torhal: did they figure out what happened? |
| 03:19.27 | Torhal | Someone pushed shit they shouldn't have. |
| 03:20.02 | Stanzilla | well obviously |
| 03:21.31 | Torhal | That's about all anyone can figure out, unfortunately. |
| 03:25.27 | quiescens | /blame torhal |
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| 05:58.58 | znf | I'm a dick https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3IOz5n9o/Screen%20Shot%202018-02-24%20at%2007.52.02.png |
| 06:01.23 | Torhal | This we know. |
| 06:01.24 | Torhal | >.> |
| 06:05.00 | Torhal | sylvanaar: Are you still using IntelliJ, or did you move over to VSCode? |
| 06:23.36 | ls- | rip iphone users >_> |
| 06:26.54 | znf | ls-: yes :D |
| 06:30.54 | Funkeh` | Zeldo: who was behind the decision to force require 2FA to order from the store? I'm not fucking giving twitch my phone number |
| 06:38.08 | Funkeh` | Zeldo: Until such time as Twitch offers 2FA without a phone number requirement, this needs reverted |
| 06:46.56 | Stanzilla | umadbro? |
| 06:51.27 | Funkeh` | if only there was competition to the cancer that is curse, put it that way |
| 06:51.44 | Funkeh` | a decade worth of continued issues |
| 06:56.40 | nebula | can i have your points until then? |
| 06:56.53 | Funkeh` | you can't transfer them either |
| 06:57.18 | nebula | well fuck that |
| 06:58.36 | nebula | i wonder how long their stupid partnership with authy is set to last |
| 06:58.59 | Funkeh` | even using authy still needs an initial setup with a phone number |
| 06:59.05 | Funkeh` | like, what |
| 06:59.07 | nebula | i know |
| 07:51.05 | Trela | Is the password in Emoji though? |
| 08:16.14 | nevcairiel | i ordered something in the store like two days ago a nd didnt need to do shit |
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| 10:59.59 | Gnarfoz | uses his Curse points to gift Funkeh` a bag of "to be"s |
| 12:11.06 | Megalon | uses his Curse points to gift *foz a bag of Tobis |
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| 14:46.00 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: 2018-02-19, supposedly |
| 14:54.44 | Gnarfoz | this probably won't help, either, but hey. https://authors.curseforge.com/news/3132-reward-store-update-2fa-requirements-for-feb-19th#c1 |
| 14:54.48 | Gnarfoz | Flamegoat: ^ |
| 15:36.42 | bluspacecow | am i on fire ? |
| 15:36.45 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 15:36.46 | bluspacecow | not me |
| 15:36.49 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 16:11.05 | znf | the fuck twitch? |
| 16:11.17 | znf | how exactly do they manage to fuck it up so badly? |
| 16:12.19 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz: 5 days notice rofl |
| 16:13.46 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: are you saying you hadn't read that before now |
| 16:14.04 | Funkeh` | Flamegoat: can we have like 1 day a year, maybe a national holiday, where curse just stops being streaming pile of garbage for just that 1 day |
| 16:14.18 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz: shock i know |
| 16:14.54 | Gnarfoz | for someone who gets as flustered as you do about relatively minor things, yeah, I'd assume you'd keep up with news :p |
| 16:15.32 | Funkeh` | "minor" things matter when you end up using them almost daily |
| 16:16.39 | Gnarfoz | (minor is certainly subjective) |
| 16:17.01 | Gnarfoz | I do wonder how Twitch (whose 2FA system is in question here) managed to not have a shitstorm about their bad 2FA options before, though |
| 16:17.04 | znf | or, I don't know... stop taking shit decisions? |
| 16:17.36 | Funkeh` | "making", taking shit totally changes that haha |
| 16:17.38 | Gnarfoz | how is trying to increase security of a system that's been increasingly abused a shit decision |
| 16:18.08 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz: they already required your IP to be whitelisted and wait for approval |
| 16:18.21 | Gnarfoz | I've never had to have my IP whitelisted to use the store |
| 16:18.26 | znf | "optional" sounds good for me |
| 16:18.34 | Gnarfoz | it was optional before now, as well? :p |
| 16:18.42 | znf | yes, so why force it? :) |
| 16:18.48 | Gnarfoz | because see above? |
| 16:19.04 | Gnarfoz | same reason everything's manual these days |
| 16:19.08 | Gnarfoz | (regarding the store) |
| 16:19.29 | Gnarfoz | doing stuff manually costs more money than improving the security of the automatic options and reinstituting those |
| 16:19.47 | Gnarfoz | obviously, when you also have a plan going to move to an authentication system that only supports terrible 2FA options... you get to where we are now :D |
| 16:20.09 | Funkeh` | I don't mind them requiring 2FA, I mind them requiring a phone number for it |
| 16:20.29 | Gnarfoz | see above :\ |
| 16:20.35 | Funkeh` | It's the same reason I never used curse's 2FA |
| 16:20.41 | Gnarfoz | which has nothing to do with this, though |
| 16:21.00 | Funkeh` | even when Torhal was all like "you should use 2FA because you're a mod" and he ended up just whitelisting my IP |
| 16:21.23 | Gnarfoz | good on you for even having a static IP for which that makes sense |
| 16:21.31 | Gnarfoz | consider yourself special enough to warrant special treatment :p |
| 16:22.01 | Gnarfoz | I hope you voted on the Twitch support pages I linked ^^ |
| 16:22.15 | bluspacecow | that sinking feeling in alpha.... when you know there's a place that had incomplete models you wanted to retest with the new build ..... but you forget where it was and for which quest :( |
| 16:22.21 | Gnarfoz | as should anyone else who wants to use neither Authy or SMS |
| 16:22.45 | Gnarfoz | bluspacecow: start taking notes, it's what us old people do :( |
| 16:22.52 | Funkeh` | i don't think i saw you link a twitch page |
| 16:23.02 | Gnarfoz | I linked 5 or 6 of them, actually |
| 16:23.05 | bluspacecow | just that there was this hut that you had to find a secret control to get to the cave and yeah that's not helpful |
| 16:23.05 | Funkeh` | just the cf news |
| 16:23.13 | Gnarfoz | I linked to my comment on the news, actually |
| 16:23.20 | bluspacecow | TIL Gnarfoz is old |
| 16:23.42 | bluspacecow | i'm not old. I'm only one year away from the answer to life, the univese and everything! |
| 16:23.47 | znf | I'm actually curious |
| 16:23.51 | Gnarfoz | (I also linked to the same set of links on the day that news went out, when I posted them on Twitter, but I don't expect everyone to click all my links :P) |
| 16:23.54 | znf | so, educate me, Gnarfoz, why is SMS insecure? |
| 16:23.55 | bluspacecow | Hello Curious |
| 16:23.57 | bluspacecow | i'm dad |
| 16:24.28 | znf | I keep seeing that being mentioned, yet my logic can't compute the "insecurity" of that |
| 16:24.58 | Gnarfoz | znf: I have the same reaction when someone says that, usually... but apparently it's not even uncommon for attackers to social engineer customer support to get additional SIM cards (or replace your active one) for a certain phone number, thus receiving the 2FA codes |
| 16:25.13 | znf | ...what? |
| 16:25.36 | znf | So, "sms is insecure" because your phone company is retarded? |
| 16:25.37 | Gnarfoz | (there are other, far more technically challenging ways to attack SMS, but that's the easiest one to explain and achieve, and the most obvious one) |
| 16:25.53 | Gnarfoz | znf: it's 2018, of course that's enough reasoning? :D |
| 16:26.04 | Gnarfoz | we have Let's Encrypt for the same kind of reasoning |
| 16:26.05 | znf | afaik you can't get duplicate sim cards for a number? |
| 16:26.18 | Gnarfoz | huh? of course you can |
| 16:26.21 | znf | I mean, one has to be deactivated |
| 16:26.23 | znf | they can't work together? |
| 16:26.25 | znf | at the same time? |
| 16:26.28 | Gnarfoz | they can perfectly |
| 16:26.44 | znf | I have my doubts |
| 16:26.47 | Gnarfoz | until January I had 2 for my cell number, but since I only very rarely made use of that, I cancelled the second one |
| 16:26.58 | Gnarfoz | it's called multi-SIM in Germany usually |
| 16:27.01 | znf | So they can be active at the same time? |
| 16:27.04 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 16:27.06 | znf | ie: 2 phones, side by side? |
| 16:27.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah |
| 16:27.14 | Gnarfoz | you have control over where what goes, calls/sms |
| 16:27.14 | znf | so how do calls work? |
| 16:27.33 | Gnarfoz | ironically, I can't take a screenshot of the UI for that now, since I no longer have it xD |
| 16:28.05 | znf | Anyway, based on that fact alone I can't rule SMS insecure |
| 16:28.15 | Gnarfoz | it's not your opinion that matters, though |
| 16:28.21 | Gnarfoz | nor is mine :D |
| 16:28.30 | znf | If that's the case, then 2FA is also insecure |
| 16:28.48 | znf | You could be at a bar, someone spikes your drink, you're unconscious, steal your phone or use the code |
| 16:28.50 | Gnarfoz | it's public opinion, and that's increasingly going against considering SMS (a byproduct of GSM, which wasn't really conceived intentionally) secure |
| 16:29.08 | Gnarfoz | znf: only if your phone requires no unlocking! :D but sure, that's a risk. |
| 16:29.28 | znf | well, you ain't got much control over your fingerprint when you're knocked out cold, do you? |
| 16:29.31 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: did you find them or shall I re-post them in here ^^ |
| 16:29.40 | Funkeh` | I found them |
| 16:29.41 | znf | and I have a feeling that works for apple's face unlock, too :P |
| 16:30.25 | znf | and honestly, I'd rather use sms auth than these fucking annoying 2FA apps |
| 16:30.33 | Gnarfoz | znf: that's why biometric authentication is considered less secure than pin/password |
| 16:31.03 | znf | I still can't over the fact that there is no way to export/backup the codes from Google Auth |
| 16:31.09 | Gnarfoz | just back it up? |
| 16:31.13 | znf | afaik you can't? |
| 16:31.15 | Gnarfoz | I thought they allowed that at some point |
| 16:31.26 | Gnarfoz | it was why I switched to FreeOTP ages ago, though |
| 16:31.30 | znf | I'm quite positive that you can't |
| 16:31.45 | Gnarfoz | FreeOTP can, which is enough for me |
| 16:31.48 | Gnarfoz | https://xkcd.com/538/ applies to the whole "but someone could force me", btw |
| 16:32.29 | znf | yeah, well... |
| 16:32.44 | Gnarfoz | znf: anyway, Authy is even worse than Google Auth/Generic TOTP... since it's proprietary |
| 16:32.57 | znf | at least I can get that automatically backed up and "in the cloud" |
| 16:33.07 | znf | it's still inconvenient as fuck to be honest |
| 16:33.09 | Gnarfoz | yeah which is a terrible idea! |
| 16:33.17 | Gnarfoz | the argument against SMS is not just "insecure", it's also "I have to share my phone number with you" |
| 16:33.35 | znf | why are people so paranoid about the phone number? |
| 16:33.42 | Gnarfoz | and Authy is doubly terrible, because if you don't want to make an account with them (which exposed the number to them anyway), you have to give them your number to use Authy |
| 16:34.14 | Gnarfoz | ask the people ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 16:34.22 | znf | I'm asking you :P |
| 16:34.29 | Gnarfoz | I'm not one of those people |
| 16:35.03 | Gnarfoz | I use SMS 2FA when necessary, but I prefer TOTP for convenience |
| 16:35.25 | Gnarfoz | and I don't use proprietary or push-style 2FA if I can avoid it at all |
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| 16:35.34 | znf | I find it more convenient to use SMS tough :-/ |
| 16:35.42 | Gnarfoz | good for you, then use that |
| 16:35.49 | Gnarfoz | (I hate waiting for SMS) |
| 16:36.01 | znf | I hate having to grab my phone from around the house every time I log on somewhere |
| 16:36.12 | Gnarfoz | and many of the services using SMS 2FA make you click a button to even send the SMS (looking at you, PayPal) |
| 16:36.25 | znf | I just get the texts with PushBullet to my browser *shrug* |
| 16:36.34 | Gnarfoz | uh... a) why do you leave your phone lying around the house b) how do you make SMS 2FA work without having the same problem |
| 16:36.37 | Gnarfoz | lol k |
| 16:36.58 | znf | because I don't have it attached to my hip when I'm at home? |
| 16:37.04 | Gnarfoz | piping your 2FA through the cloud certainly seems about as great a idea as using Authy to back them up to the cloud |
| 16:37.16 | znf | I leave it on my desk, I go on the couch |
| 16:37.21 | znf | I don't really need my phone |
| 16:37.21 | Gnarfoz | well, not your hip, perhaps, but your computer is in one place, is it not |
| 16:38.00 | znf | or the other way around, I go watch a movie on the couch, I have to check something on the computer... now I have to go back to my couch to get the phone |
| 16:38.18 | Gnarfoz | sure, that's annoying |
| 16:38.23 | Funkeh` | use a 2FA app on your pc..? |
| 16:38.28 | Gnarfoz | don't. |
| 16:38.33 | Gnarfoz | that's about as terrible as pushbullet. :D |
| 16:38.49 | Gnarfoz | it entirely compromises the security 2FA is supposed to provide |
| 16:38.51 | Funkeh` | not really, one requires online communication |
| 16:40.01 | Gnarfoz | if you store the "thing" (the second factor) on the same device as the one where you enter what you "know" (the first factor), you might as well not use 2FA |
| 16:40.03 | znf | Gnarfoz, yeah, but.... |
| 16:40.10 | znf | I mean, Funkeh`, but... |
| 16:40.18 | znf | I can't freakin' export the codes from my app! |
| 16:40.21 | Gnarfoz | (IN THEORY, that is, same way as SMS is insecure "IN THEORY") |
| 16:40.31 | Gnarfoz | znf: pick another app, then :P |
| 16:40.41 | znf | Gnarfoz, then I'd have to do the same... |
| 16:40.44 | Gnarfoz | nobody's forcing you to use Google's closed-source one |
| 16:40.51 | Funkeh` | Gnarfoz: that's only insecure if people have remote access to your pc, in practice that's never the case for account hijacks |
| 16:40.57 | Gnarfoz | why? you can have the tokens on multiple devices, znf? |
| 16:41.11 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: uhhh... trojan horses don't exist? |
| 16:41.18 | znf | Gnarfoz, huh? |
| 16:41.29 | znf | I need the code to enter it into the app...? |
| 16:41.33 | Gnarfoz | znf: I have FreeOTP with all my tokens on my S7 and my S4 |
| 16:41.35 | znf | Which I can't export from Google Auth |
| 16:41.45 | Gnarfoz | that's my point. switch once and enjoy the freedom |
| 16:42.15 | Gnarfoz | or go the annoying route of always importing the codes into two devices at the time of 2FA activation ^^ |
| 16:42.15 | Funkeh` | Yes they exist, but 99% of account hijacks are guessed (weak) or shared on other sites |
| 16:42.24 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: probably |
| 16:42.27 | Gnarfoz | threat modeling, again |
| 16:43.16 | Gnarfoz | nobody can defend against all attacks on the "very likely" to "you're just not important enough" spectrum, and everyone needs to figure out how much effort or security they need |
| 16:43.25 | znf | Gnarfoz, I see it at "switch once, put effort, you're still required to use that shit, have fun" |
| 16:43.30 | Gnarfoz | and everyone ends up making different calls as to what |
| 16:43.58 | Gnarfoz | znf: the point being that you can leave one of the devices at your computer at all times, eliminating the need to go phone hunting |
| 16:44.31 | Gnarfoz | if you can live with the compromise of having the 2FA token on your PC, you can use a software one instead of a second device, sure |
| 16:44.45 | Gnarfoz | there are many options ;] |
| 16:44.48 | Gnarfoz | UNLESS |
| 16:45.11 | Gnarfoz | someone like Twitch (even before gobbling up Curse) decides that the ONLY options are SMS and Authy's proprietary mode |
| 16:45.32 | Gnarfoz | (Authy does support regular TOTP codes! it should be EASY to switch that on, shouldn't it? :P) |
| 16:46.54 | Stanzilla | yubikeys for everything |
| 16:47.13 | Gnarfoz | (didn't they have trouble recently as well?) |
| 16:47.17 | Stanzilla | ¯_(ã)_/¯ |
| 16:47.51 | znf | I think we should just auth with blood |
| 16:48.09 | Funkeh` | biometrics nope |
| 16:48.30 | Stanzilla | biometrics should beu sernames not passwords |
| 16:48.45 | Gnarfoz | that's even worse |
| 16:48.52 | Stanzilla | why? |
| 16:49.12 | Gnarfoz | because that's the end of privacy |
| 16:49.21 | Gnarfoz | pseudonyms exist for a reason |
| 16:50.01 | Gnarfoz | what's freenode's max message length? 500 bytes? |
| 16:51.27 | nevcairiel | 512 including the cr/lf probably |
| 16:51.57 | nevcairiel | and probably also including the metadata in front of it |
| 16:54.29 | Gnarfoz | Affected by Curse's choice to enforce 2FA for the store (https://authors.curseforge.com/news/3132)? Want better 2FA options? Vote here: https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/297558/suggestions/15947032 https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/310228/suggestions/11498085 https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/297558/suggestions/14373747 https://twitch.uservoice.com/forums/297558/suggestions/12287061 https://twitch.uservoice.com/search?filter=ideas&query= |
| 16:54.29 | Gnarfoz | 2fa |
| 16:54.33 | Gnarfoz | did that end in =2fa |
| 16:54.35 | bluspacecow | i forgot how to warlock |
| 16:54.42 | bluspacecow | i forgot about Eye of Kilrogg :( |
| 16:55.43 | Stanzilla | no |
| 16:55.50 | Stanzilla | where do you want to spam that |
| 16:56.13 | Stanzilla | ended with "query=" |
| 16:56.50 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: doesnt seem very smart to have a hundred different suggestion threads for that =p |
| 16:56.59 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/5MEF9P3.png |
| 16:57.04 | znf | Gnarfoz, goo.gl |
| 16:57.04 | znf | ! |
| 16:58.19 | Gnarfoz | znf: I don't want to obscure links I recommend people to visit to vote on something. |
| 16:58.25 | znf | *shrug* |
| 16:58.37 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: really? wtf. it ends on &query=2fa... so, 3 more characters! :D) |
| 16:58.49 | Funkeh` | probably stick to the 2 most popular ones |
| 16:58.49 | Gnarfoz | or I could omit the search link entirely |
| 16:59.30 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: just next door, I don't know where else |
| 16:59.47 | Stanzilla | ah |
| 17:00.02 | znf | steals quiescens's coookies |
| 17:00.23 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: feel free to steal it and post it elsewhere, though |
| 17:00.45 | znf | dear ./configure, I think this is a bit redundant https://i.imgur.com/d7rz5zp.png |
| 17:00.46 | znf | :P |
| 17:01.11 | Gnarfoz | The Rewards Program covers all projects on CurseForge, BukkitDev, and WoWAce. |
| 17:01.15 | Gnarfoz | does that mean it covers Minecraft mods? |
| 17:01.57 | znf | nevcairiel, what can I use to "edit" the appearance of a Qt app? |
| 17:02.33 | Megalon | your knowledge of code and how Qt works |
| 17:02.36 | Gnarfoz | znf: those might not be for the same decision |
| 17:02.42 | Megalon | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 17:03.20 | znf | tells Megalon he's being a dick |
| 17:04.45 | znf | Megalon, qtcreator, dick. |
| 17:07.09 | Gnarfoz | random joke tweet https://twitter.com/Gnarfoz/status/963838248740179969 seen by 3600 people, tweet about Twitch 2FA: https://twitter.com/Gnarfoz/status/963842735789703168 seen by 199 people |
| 17:07.19 | Gnarfoz | I guess I need a social media team |
| 17:09.51 | znf | feels like I could be doing this better, you know... |
| 17:09.52 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/eGpdslX.png |
| 17:10.05 | znf | instead of running qtcreator from WSL with Xming |
| 17:12.54 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: any idea where people who post stuff (and reap points from) on BukkitDev might be? Twitch app server or something? :D |
| 17:13.25 | Gnarfoz | znf: is the same thing not available for Windows |
| 17:13.40 | Gnarfoz | (OTOH, what's so bad about doing it via X) |
| 17:14.05 | Gnarfoz | Microsoft should add a fast/native X server to their list of WSL tasks |
| 17:14.08 | znf | probably it is available |
| 17:14.17 | znf | but my sources are inside the WSL filesystem |
| 17:14.17 | Gnarfoz | or skip X and go for Wayland or whatever the successor is |
| 17:14.18 | znf | :P |
| 17:14.28 | Gnarfoz | that might be an issue :D |
| 17:17.13 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: nope, no idea but I guess twitch app server |
| 17:22.42 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh already dumped the links into #general-chat there, I did the same for #minecraft now |
| 17:23.19 | Gnarfoz | probably a vain attempt, overall, but at least I tried ;p |
| 17:25.11 | *** join/#wowace Seerah (~umsin@2601:3c2:80:1380:64f9:56d6:4219:6d7f) |
| 17:25.17 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: didn't see your reply a couple few days ago regarding http://i.imgur.com/WhYVEcR.jpg -- wouldn't you say it's still far better than any amount of post-processing could turn a DVD image into? |
| 17:28.29 | znf | I really hate the terminal emulator of WSL |
| 17:28.31 | znf | well, the new cmd thingie |
| 17:28.34 | znf | it's so slow |
| 17:35.01 | znf | hmm, Ubuntu 16.04 can't create proper .exe's when cross-compiling - they crash instantly due to a bug in mingw :-| |
| 17:35.03 | znf | the fuck |
| 17:35.14 | znf | (the 64bit one) |
| 17:44.53 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: not sure, its rather noisy and not really sharp (the noise creates a bit of an illusion of sharpness) |
| 17:50.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: yeah... but also, I can't actually find that particular shot in the episode |
| 17:51.46 | Gnarfoz | right at the beginning, there's a similar one, but it has Carter and Jackson in the background, Teal'c has his staff weapon, and he isn't turned quite this far towards the camera |
| 17:51.49 | nevcairiel | didnt they get trapped in those crystals again later |
| 17:52.06 | Gnarfoz | yeah I was considering it might be flashback from s8+ where it's HD |
| 17:52.30 | Gnarfoz | (also, did you notice the DVD rips we now both have have deinterlacing artifacts? :\) |
| 17:52.53 | nevcairiel | not sure i actually watched them |
| 17:52.56 | nevcairiel | any noticeable spot? |
| 17:53.07 | nevcairiel | (thats why dvd is terrible, scew interlacing) |
| 17:53.56 | Gnarfoz | probably every time someone falls over/runs/explodes :D |
| 17:54.11 | znf | I find it so funny that people go out of their ways to unplug phone chargers when they are not in use, with the idea that they save money :-/ |
| 17:54.25 | Gnarfoz | probably more with the idea of not harming the battery |
| 17:54.25 | znf | yeah, sure, you're gonna save about 3⬠in a year doing that |
| 17:54.43 | znf | no, I'm talking about phone chargers left plugged in when you're not at home charging your device |
| 17:54.47 | Gnarfoz | lolwut |
| 17:54.52 | Gnarfoz | with nothing connected to them? |
| 17:54.56 | znf | yes, people do that |
| 17:55.09 | Gnarfoz | you're not going to save 3â¬, you're going to save 0â¬, hopefully |
| 17:55.29 | Funkeh` | it's recommended because there's a lot of bad charges that keep using power |
| 17:55.48 | Gnarfoz | I guess. also, since they're low quality, they also might pose a fire hazard :D |
| 17:55.48 | Funkeh` | people like buying cheap shit chargers |
| 17:56.13 | nevcairiel | the quality of these rips is really not that great |
| 17:56.25 | nevcairiel | and the interlacing artifacts are inconsistent |
| 17:56.31 | nevcairiel | not every moving thing, but sometimes randomly |
| 17:56.44 | Megalon | when it comes to electricity it maybe not the best idea to buy the 49c stuff :7 |
| 17:56.59 | Megalon | i'd rather have my rooms not being on fire at a random point in time |
| 17:57.11 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: example 02:05 when Jack gets blasted by the crystal, for example |
| 17:57.18 | Gnarfoz | double example. |
| 17:57.19 | Gnarfoz | xD |
| 17:57.31 | nevcairiel | which ep was that again |
| 17:57.35 | Gnarfoz | s01e07 |
| 17:57.49 | Gnarfoz | sadly, these types of artifacts are *more* visible in motion than in stills |
| 17:58.05 | nevcairiel | 02:05 has the intro for me |
| 17:58.05 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:58.19 | Gnarfoz | oh |
| 17:58.24 | Gnarfoz | it's s01e08? whut |
| 17:58.38 | znf | having your house properly insulated saves more money than unplugging that charger when you're done with it :P |
| 17:58.43 | Gnarfoz | filename is 08, Plex says 7, I thought I had fixed the damn numbering |
| 17:58.47 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 17:58.53 | nevcairiel | but yeah i see it |
| 17:59.01 | nevcairiel | but oddly enough its really not in every motion |
| 17:59.13 | nevcairiel | either the DVDs are just screwed up, or the ripper did some really weird things |
| 17:59.39 | Gnarfoz | yeah, no idea... also, full-screen fade-to-white effects make it obvious |
| 18:00.10 | Gnarfoz | space is cheap, I'd somehow prefer a straight remux of the mpeg2 at this point, even if it's interlaced |
| 18:00.25 | Gnarfoz | would probably still be better, deinterlaced properly at playback |
| 18:00.29 | nevcairiel | the problem with dvds is not that they are interlaced, but telecined |
| 18:00.44 | Gnarfoz | if the original medium was film... hmm yeah |
| 18:00.47 | Gnarfoz | which is the case here |
| 18:01.04 | nevcairiel | and proper processing down from the 29.97i to 24p can be hard |
| 18:01.04 | Gnarfoz | so... they're both ^^ |
| 18:01.11 | nevcairiel | especially if the content is mixed interlaced and telecine |
| 18:01.13 | nevcairiel | which happens :( |
| 18:01.27 | Gnarfoz | that would result in judder, not combing, though, wouldn't it |
| 18:01.30 | nevcairiel | let me get over my lazyness and get my dvd box of that shelf |
| 18:02.04 | Gnarfoz | that might have the same issues, different issues, or no issues, considering it's the PAL version |
| 18:02.36 | Funkeh` | are regions still a thing |
| 18:03.35 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: according to my dvd guide its 7, but they count the first double-ep as only 1, so the issue in counting |
| 18:04.09 | nevcairiel | also I know why i didnt rip my dvds |
| 18:04.11 | nevcairiel | they are PAL |
| 18:04.37 | Funkeh` | what's wrong with PAL :< |
| 18:04.44 | Gnarfoz | wrong framerate for one |
| 18:04.54 | nevcairiel | they often mess up the audio to make it |
| 18:04.58 | Gnarfoz | and most stuff is made in NTSC, and thus not converting it to PAL makes everything worse again |
| 18:05.12 | Gnarfoz | or... "made", since those days are thankfully over |
| 18:05.16 | Gnarfoz | also -not |
| 18:05.41 | Funkeh` | so if you're ripping, buy region free |
| 18:05.45 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: oh, you didn't have to get up for the numbering, lol, I thought you wanted to look at the artifacts |
| 18:05.56 | nevcairiel | that was the plan |
| 18:06.00 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: buy what region free? dvds? they don't exist region free |
| 18:06.10 | nevcairiel | but i had to look in the booklet anyway to figure out which disc this one is on |
| 18:06.18 | Gnarfoz | well, technically, they can, but most aren't |
| 18:06.20 | Funkeh` | re-buy them as blue rays? :D |
| 18:06.27 | nevcairiel | doesnt exist |
| 18:06.29 | Gnarfoz | if that was an option, nobody would waste time on DVDs |
| 18:06.42 | Funkeh` | tbh around here we call video on a disk a dvd |
| 18:06.57 | nevcairiel | imprecise language doesnt fly with us! |
| 18:07.05 | Funkeh` | heh |
| 18:07.22 | Gnarfoz | which airline does it prefer? |
| 18:07.43 | znf | just.ro is our Ministery of Justice: |
| 18:07.44 | znf | http://just.ro/info.php |
| 18:07.47 | znf | http://just.ro/wp-content/uploads/DTI/ |
| 18:07.56 | Gnarfoz | #JustROthings |
| 18:08.09 | Funkeh` | ask them for a job |
| 18:08.25 | Funkeh` | lotus_5.rar |
| 18:08.33 | Funkeh` | :O |
| 18:08.33 | znf | Anyone wants lotus notes 5? :D |
| 18:08.36 | znf | Gnarfoz, no, shit salaries |
| 18:08.44 | Gnarfoz | that wasn't me ;] |
| 18:08.44 | Funkeh` | who the fuck uses rar |
| 18:08.47 | Gnarfoz | the upload folder is probably worse than the phpinfo |
| 18:09.05 | Funkeh` | audit financiar.rar holy shit |
| 18:09.20 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: people who buycott 7-zip because it doesn't use compiler flags they like |
| 18:09.24 | Gnarfoz | *boycott |
| 18:09.41 | nevcairiel | sounds like something Stanzilla might do |
| 18:09.43 | znf | I use WinRar because I've installed it 6 years ago and I'm lazy |
| 18:09.47 | znf | still packing .zip's tough |
| 18:09.50 | Funkeh` | I just use zip because we're not on dialup anymore |
| 18:10.14 | Gnarfoz | not sure where the connection to that is |
| 18:10.15 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: my player crashes playing that dvd, thats what i get for using my own development builds =p |
| 18:10.24 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: pwned |
| 18:10.32 | znf | wait, what: cscript /nologo configure.js |
| 18:10.42 | znf | I've never looked at a windows compiled PHP |
| 18:10.44 | nevcairiel | oh i r emember, i turned on page heap |
| 18:10.49 | nevcairiel | that probably doesnt like dvd |
| 18:11.02 | znf | Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard Edition |
| 18:11.02 | nevcairiel | ah yeah better |
| 18:11.07 | znf | Hasn't this been EOL? |
| 18:11.11 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 18:11.13 | Funkeh` | znf: using windows full stop |
| 18:11.27 | Gnarfoz | Windows is fine, get over yourself ;p |
| 18:11.29 | Funkeh` | good to know where your tax money is going |
| 18:11.33 | Gnarfoz | https://twitter.com/mpruszczyk/status/956239620961861633 + replies to parent |
| 18:11.50 | nevcairiel | znf: its even still in mainstream support, long time to go for 2012r2 |
| 18:11.58 | znf | I see |
| 18:12.52 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: dvd shows the same artifacts |
| 18:12.59 | Funkeh` | PHP Version 5.6.16 that's probably more concerning |
| 18:13.12 | Gnarfoz | than Windows? or than the upload folder ^^ |
| 18:13.18 | nevcairiel | if i really wanted to i could try to run it through soime really good processing |
| 18:13.18 | Funkeh` | windows |
| 18:13.21 | nevcairiel | but alas, lazy |
| 18:13.34 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: heh, just means that "going to the source" doesn't help |
| 18:13.40 | nevcairiel | well |
| 18:13.41 | nevcairiel | maybe |
| 18:13.51 | nevcairiel | there are some really good tools to process video |
| 18:13.53 | Gnarfoz | ntsc dvds could be better? that's a big if |
| 18:13.56 | nevcairiel | but its also labor intensive |
| 18:14.15 | znf | Gnarfoz, want more things? |
| 18:14.15 | Gnarfoz | wish I still had an active account on sdbits, perhaps they have a better rip |
| 18:14.25 | Gnarfoz | they're the kind of people who would invest said labor/time |
| 18:14.32 | znf | Gnarfoz, want more RO things? |
| 18:14.40 | Gnarfoz | znf: just the edible things, please |
| 18:14.53 | Gnarfoz | (someone did for TNG, DS9 and VOY, months of work, the result was pretty great) |
| 18:15.15 | znf | https://i.redd.it/9nj4ds48l6i01.png <- this is a job posting for a janitor (on the right), that demands candidates to not be prosecuted/condemned (is that the right word?) or under active investigation in order to qualify |
| 18:15.53 | znf | On the left, it's a news headline how at least 5 of the current ministers are under active investigations or have already been prosecuted and found guilty about $stuff |
| 18:16.27 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 18:16.42 | nevcairiel | obviously they did that after they already had the job |
| 18:16.49 | Gnarfoz | (and the term you're looking for is probably "not have a criminal record") |
| 18:17.30 | znf | not sure if that conveys the fact that they have been found guilty of corruption acts, but they are now under some sort of immunity or something like that |
| 18:17.39 | znf | I'm fuzzy on the details |
| 18:18.04 | znf | (mostly because I feel sick when I read about it) |
| 18:18.31 | Gnarfoz | I meant the applicatns for the job |
| 18:18.34 | Gnarfoz | not the politicians |
| 18:18.59 | znf | ah, right, yes |
| 18:19.07 | znf | but is the long description :P |
| 18:19.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: the s1 file naming is completely fucked up, several episodes don't match, it probably differs between intended airing order and actual airing order (and dvd order) and now nothing matches; I had opened the episode directly, while also looking at Plex (for some reason) when I gave you the wrong episode number |
| 18:19.42 | znf | I find it funny how most of the persons accused in the Microsoft file have gotten away without even a slap on the wrist |
| 18:19.59 | znf | because the statue of limitation has passed, according to the law they changed in 2014 |
| 18:20.33 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: its always fun. I looked up if its on any streaming services, and cold lazarus is ep6 there, so go figure :p |
| 18:20.36 | Gnarfoz | perhaps I should have switched to "DVD order" instead of going with "aired order" and fucking with the file names... now I either get to undo what I did, or go all in and fix the ordering on the files themselves... |
| 18:20.50 | Gnarfoz | ep6? now what. haha |
| 18:21.03 | Gnarfoz | off by 1 in the other direction |
| 18:21.16 | nevcairiel | its on amazon too |
| 18:21.25 | nevcairiel | wonder if i should buy this one ep to check their quality :D |
| 18:21.32 | Gnarfoz | don't bother |
| 18:21.49 | Gnarfoz | let me grab the comparison screenshots... |
| 18:23.34 | nevcairiel | amazon is also apparently the only one that has it, around here anyway |
| 18:23.47 | Gnarfoz | iTunes should as well |
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| 18:26.57 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: https://geektour.de/~smallbrain/sg1/ (but that's s8; I think there were some s1 somewhere...) |
| 18:27.38 | nevcairiel | s8 is the one thats not very interesting, since thats HD |
| 18:28.01 | Gnarfoz | yeah, just found that one first in my history :D |
| 18:30.12 | nevcairiel | i found some hevc rip, lets see |
| 18:30.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: here you go, dvd r1 vs amazon |
| 18:30.18 | Gnarfoz | https://geektour.de/~smallbrain/sg1/s1/ |
| 18:31.21 | nevcairiel | exact same artifacts in that one too |
| 18:31.52 | Gnarfoz | and this one is the 1080p from the new Stargate Command streaming thing vs. r1 dvd screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/118050/ |
| 18:32.15 | Gnarfoz | all in all: r1 dvd still the best option :| |
| 18:32.26 | nevcairiel | thats not too bad |
| 18:32.30 | Gnarfoz | which is no surprise, considering, but hey, gotta check |
| 18:32.44 | nevcairiel | its too bad that the dvds are so bad to begin with |
| 18:33.12 | Gnarfoz | and s1-s3 are filmed on 16mm, they only started shooting on 35mm with s4 |
| 18:33.21 | Gnarfoz | which probably doesn't improve things ^^ |
| 18:33.55 | Funkeh` | 1080 on dvd? |
| 18:33.56 | nevcairiel | 35mm is cinema quality, you would think it would look better =p |
| 18:34.40 | Gnarfoz | Funkeh`: kind of hard to make a comparison 1080<>480 without upscaling the 480 ;-) |
| 18:35.45 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: well, it could be, but not if your target is a DVD... I bet the 35mm to blu-ray conversions have different quality goals, considering "eh, don't bother, you won't see the difference on dvd anyway" doesn't apply |
| 18:38.34 | nevcairiel | with tv productions the problem often is the quality of the CGI |
| 18:41.37 | Gnarfoz | particularly in the film<>video overlap age |
| 18:41.51 | Gnarfoz | before was ok, after was ok, the mixture was bad |
| 18:41.56 | Gnarfoz | related: https://josephmallozzi.wordpress.com/2018/02/23/february-23-2018-a-call-to-all-stargate-dark-matter-and-scifi-fans/ |
| 18:42.08 | Gnarfoz | (not sure if that has any chance, but hey) |
| 18:46.40 | znf | OH RIGHT TOTALLY NEEDED A NEW STREAMING PLATFORM |
| 18:46.42 | znf | ...fuck off. |
| 18:48.25 | Funkeh` | lol |
| 18:50.25 | znf | I'm actually pissed at their stupid Origins shit |
| 18:50.28 | znf | not even going to watch it |
| 18:53.31 | znf | feels like they made the worst possible choice to try to revive that franchise |
| 18:53.57 | znf | which will end up in "yeah, sorry guys, there was simply not enough interest in this franchise, so we're not going to waste more money on it trying to bring it back" |
| 18:54.35 | znf | well, Mr. Dumbass, maybe if you didn't make it exclusive to one platform, make it a proper series (!) or a movie instead of a 10 minute per episode skit, or maybe not dare ask $20 for that... |
| 18:55.04 | Funkeh` | why would you be pissed? At this point anyone that thinks buying into a renting platform is a safe bet is silly |
| 18:55.25 | Funkeh` | It will continue to fragment and prices will continue to increase |
| 18:55.43 | znf | pissed because it further buries any chance of any new projects out of that franchise |
| 18:56.26 | Torhal | [10:21:23] Gnarfoz:good on you for even having a static IP for which that makes sense <-- That isn't how it is. He keeps PMing me with the new IP to whitelist. |
| 18:56.55 | Funkeh` | hmm, I didn't see him say that |
| 18:57.21 | znf | also, from what I've been told, Origins basically shits on what the Series have done in the past |
| 18:57.46 | znf | apparently they powered a stargate with a car battery.... and they had Catherine stroll trough it a few times (!!) |
| 18:57.56 | Funkeh` | yes, I've seen it |
| 18:58.08 | znf | like... the fuck mate? |
| 18:58.10 | Funkeh` | and they've already got the "strong female empowerment" going strong |
| 18:58.30 | Funkeh` | like thats great, but I don't see why they need to acomplish that by making everyone around her a total idiot |
| 19:00.27 | Torhal | Hell, they made her somewhat of an idiot as well, so... |
| 19:01.48 | znf | yeah, just not gonna watch that |
| 19:02.00 | znf | I don't want to get pissed off :D |
| 19:02.30 | Funkeh` | one can watch it free from random youtube uploads if one wishes |
| 19:02.50 | Torhal | The car battery thing was definitely a WTF, though. I'm pretty sure those don't contain Naquadah. |
| 19:02.51 | znf | don't worry, I wasn't planning on paying money for that |
| 19:03.16 | znf | rarbg is free |
| 19:04.13 | nevcairiel | you dont necessarily need Naquadah to power it, just a lot of power |
| 19:04.38 | znf | maybe it was a nuclear car battery! |
| 19:04.44 | Torhal | True. The fact remains, though, that a car battery can't power a sustained wormhole. :D |
| 19:04.58 | Torhal | Maybe a wormhole for ants... |
| 19:05.08 | Funkeh` | the wormhole stayed open for like 5 minutes |
| 19:06.06 | nevcairiel | presumably it can be powered by the other side once you establied a connection |
| 19:06.19 | nevcairiel | established* |
| 19:06.29 | Funkeh` | afaik that only happened if there was a black hole on the other side |
| 19:14.12 | Gnarfoz | znf: actually, Origins is unrelated to this current effort. https://www.reddit.com/r/Stargate/comments/7zjq89/stargate_now/dupb88z/ |
| 19:14.57 | znf | "meh" |
| 19:15.15 | Gnarfoz | perhaps. ;-) |
| 19:15.32 | Gnarfoz | I'll watch Origins as a "movie" when it's complete |
| 19:16.13 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: if there is a flashback to that planet in s08-s10, I can't find any info about it (without going through all episodes of those seasons) |
| 19:23.05 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/WhYVEcR.jpg vs https://i.imgur.com/HzfyKPH.png is not even close |
| 19:23.20 | Gnarfoz | idk :( |
| 19:23.29 | Gnarfoz | oh... is it from one of the movies perhaps :O |
| 19:27.47 | Gnarfoz | nope |
| 19:38.20 | Megalon | Sandplanet vs Senfplanet |
| 19:38.24 | Megalon | probably just a typo in the script! |
| 19:53.55 | Funkeh` | Torhal: you didnt tag a new release of lib backdrop |
| 19:54.03 | Funkeh` | just alpha |
| 19:55.09 | Torhal | Does it matter? I deleted the bad file and the only difference for the alpha is the ToC Interface. |
| 19:55.26 | Funkeh` | yes, since there was a bad *release* not a bad *alpha* |
| 19:55.40 | Stanzilla | there was no bad release |
| 19:55.44 | Stanzilla | at least I did not tag one |
| 19:55.50 | Funkeh` | yes there was, i downloaded it |
| 19:55.54 | Stanzilla | good job |
| 19:56.06 | Funkeh` | it was called 7.3 something |
| 19:57.06 | Torhal | I cheated and changed the file to Release. |
| 19:57.19 | Torhal | Easier than re-cloning the repo and adding myself to the project, etc. |
| 20:20.43 | pompy | reported for cheating |
| 20:23.26 | Gnarfoz | adjusted the filenames of s01 to match dvd ordering again (so, like they were when I grabbed them), turned Plex to DVD ordering, took a while, but it seems to have figured it out now. only thing wrong: the screenshots don't match the episodes where aired order doesn't match dvd order ¯\_(ã)_/¯ can't have everything ^^ |
| 20:27.08 | Gnarfoz | oh hell; season 8 - 10 from iTunes are of course as aired, not as on dvd >_> (so, two-parters as two files) |
| 20:27.17 | Gnarfoz | just quits |
| 20:38.06 | Funkeh` | lol |
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| 21:06.46 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: on a related topic, I wonder if the DS9 and VOY DVDs from 2017 are better than the originals in any way |
| 21:23.39 | znf | So we have had some black ice |
| 21:23.43 | znf | And now a blizzard started |
| 21:24.02 | znf | I was out driving because I love driving when it snows (just hate the snow itself) |
| 21:24.24 | znf | A kid in front of me lost control and missed an illuminations pole by 2 inches |
| 21:24.53 | znf | So I think I should go home before another one loses control and hits me :D |
| 22:09.46 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/comment/1572963/#Comment_1572963 -_- |
| 22:10.49 | Gnarfoz | the cumulative time I have wasted on wondering why the hell it won't download metadata, and trying various things... |
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| 22:13.43 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 22:22.53 | Stanzilla | Haven't found a single reason why ipv6 is a benefit yet :D |
| 22:35.51 | znf | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/02/23/snail-racing-competition-postponed-snails-sluggish-take-part/ |
| 22:35.53 | znf | Stanzilla, me neither |
| 22:36.04 | znf | to be honest, it's a burden |
| 22:38.32 | znf | Basically - IPv6 is hard to remember for a human, remembering the whole address is hard. |
| 22:38.45 | znf | Then comes the argument that "but you're not supposed to remember them, you just need to set up DNS properly" |
| 22:39.25 | znf | Then again... most people don't know how to do that, if they did, there's a high chance they'd know how to live with the "limitations" of IPv4 (I'm talking strictly from a home network point of view) |
| 22:39.38 | znf | Then again, IPv6 exposes your IoT Toaster to the internet... |
| 22:40.03 | znf | Sure, it's "hard" to scan all the hosts in ipv6 prefixes allocated to clients, because there's many hosts... but nevertheless it's possible |
| 22:40.17 | znf | Then comes the argument, "but you should firewall it and drop all new inbound connections" |
| 22:40.31 | znf | Well, alrighty then, if I drop all new inbound connections, why do I need ipv6 for my internet connected toaster? |
| 22:41.32 | znf | Also not to mention that you still run into some weird-ass ipv6 route shit (see Gnarfoz's issues with ipv6 to blizzard servers a few years ago) |
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| 23:28.44 | Stanzilla | znf: https://coub.com/view/12yh6n |
| 23:28.57 | znf | heh |
| 23:29.38 | Stanzilla | it me https://coub.com/view/12ou14 |
| 23:35.49 | Funkeh` | good way to damage your spine |
| 23:36.42 | znf | Gnarfoz, CRLs suck |
| 23:38.54 | Funkeh` | https://coub.com/view/spts3 |
| 23:42.18 | Stanzilla | https://coub.com/view/czyaj |
