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01:03.51Stanzillastandard
01:04.26quiescenso.o
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01:55.08znfStanzilla, so, every time I think I can get promoted to gold 5
01:55.13znfI get matched with the same guy
01:55.14znfand I lose
01:55.17znfevery. damn. time.
01:55.32znfwhy doesn't this fucking game not match you with blocked players?
01:58.13Stanzilla¯_(ツ)_/¯
02:01.35Stanzillathey are only now starting to do that in overwatch
02:01.38Stanzillamaybe it will spread over
02:01.48nebuladoubtful
02:02.02Stanzillanegativenancybula
02:02.10nebulathe match maker is too delicate
02:02.38StanzillaI am already lookign forward to all the ways it will break when they release the new quickmatch rules
02:03.43znfI'm looking forward to the "please don't fucking match me with russians" checkmark
02:03.44znf:(
02:04.16StanzillaI want that in every game
02:04.38Stanzillabut the problem is, if you single them out, they dont get enough players
02:05.15nebulaour russians are brazilians, but i think blizzard forced them all to oceanic
02:07.11znfhuehuehue?
02:07.25nebulaJAJAJAJAJAJJA
02:07.26Stanzillaxaxaxa
02:07.43znfcyka blyat
02:08.00znfblizzard needs to make a Siberia region
02:08.04znfand force all the russians there
02:08.21nebulathe shadow realm
02:08.24nebulaaka low prio
02:09.37znfand make it so that if you ever type Cyrillic in chat, your game automatically disconnects and changes your account region permanently
02:11.23StanzillaI cyka blyat all the time
02:12.17nebularude
02:12.29znfсука блять
02:12.36znfit's сука not cyka
02:14.23StanzillaI know
02:30.34quiescenso.O
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16:15.51znflol @ herostorm, Stanzilla
16:16.30Stanzillawat
16:19.59znfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebPkbovnS6w
16:20.00znfcarvot
16:20.02znfcarbot
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16:37.23znfhttps://i.imgur.com/hESIHm5.png
16:37.30znfso basically I can't withdraw my money from PayPal
16:42.13Megalonwithdraw to one of your 3489 visa cards
16:44.54Stanzillajust send it to me
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17:40.54Stanzillamitch0: hey
18:19.50znfMegalon, can't. I only have 1 VISA and they stopped doing business with me with that card :D
18:20.55Megaloni wonder why
18:20.58Megalon>8D
18:29.01znfMegalon, some rules about accepting payment for services that they do not cover
18:29.55znfStanzilla, can FarCry 5 be played offline in full?
18:30.43Stanzillasure, just get the CPY edition :D
18:30.56znfdoh
18:32.52znfI need another SSD just for Downloads
18:32.59znfthis is ridiculous
18:33.48Megalonbuy one
18:33.54Megalone.g. with your paypal money
18:33.56Megalon8D
18:34.42znfhmmm
18:34.52znfwait, this is crapping it's pants at 100Mbit
18:35.47znfsomewhere there's a bottleneck
18:36.33znfah, there we go
18:36.36znf71MB/sec
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21:48.14znffucking rar
21:48.17znf1 hour to download game
21:48.20znf2 hours to unpack
21:48.27znfwell, estimated 1:30
21:48.41StanzillaI love when they put 100 rar files inside of 20 7z files
21:48.53znfscene says RAR tough
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21:56.19znfyeah, I can't find the latest ISO rules as per scene
21:56.22nevcairielscene are dumbfucks
21:56.26znfunless the latest one is from 2010
21:56.40znfwhich also stated that max rar size is 300MB
21:57.05znfeh, their rules are questionable, but it's what got them trough for so many years
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22:00.41znfscene is probably what popularized xvid back in the day :P
22:03.24Stanzillawonder how long it will take until we are over x264
22:09.40nevcairieluntil something actually becomes good, probably
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22:18.01znfisn't hevc theoretically better?
22:18.16znfor we're basically waiting for hardware manufacturers to catch up?
22:21.09nevcairieltheoreticaly is all nice and stuff
22:21.15nevcairielin practice is what counts
22:21.55znfwell, smaller filesizes? higher quality at the same bitrate?
22:22.11znfshouldn't that also translate to practice?
22:22.40znfOr we're waiting it out to see the winner between VP9 and HEVC?
22:22.59znfOr... AV1?
22:23.31nevcairielonly because someone defines a codec does not mean you suddenly get smaller files, you need to actually have an encoder that makes those smaller files at higher quality
22:23.34nevcairieland encoders are hard
22:23.58nevcairielespecially lossy encoders like we use for video
22:25.10znfare we talking about speed here, as in, VP9 encoders are slow as fuck because no threading?
22:25.29znfand if I recall correctly, there's no hardware encoder yet for it?
22:25.40nevcairielhardware encoders are generally crappy
22:25.47nevcairieland encoding speed is somewhat unrelated
22:26.11nevcairielif its super quality and super file size, better then anything else, speed may only be a secondary concern
22:26.12znfoh, I see Intel Skylake++ has VP9 hardware encoder
22:26.25znfEven SnapDragon 835
22:26.28znfI was wrong
22:26.51nevcairielnoone encodes consumer video with those crappy hardware encoders =p
22:27.59znfI feel like it's just a hole the needs to be filled in order to be widely accepted
22:28.25znfSo are we basically waiting for AV1 to be widely used and skip a generation?
22:28.43nevcairiel<nevcairiel> until something actually becomes good, probably
22:29.29znfI'm not sure what stops the encoders to be good :P
22:29.43nevcairiel<nevcairiel> and encoders are hard
22:29.53znfStuff I've seen with both HEVC and VP9 seems to look better than higher bitrate h264, for example
22:30.40nevcairielhevc is currently mostly good for two things, very low bitrate (mobile), and >1080p resolution
22:30.51nevcairielin the middle, its gains are very minor
22:31.03znfwhat I'm asking is - what is the goal here, what defines a good encoder right now and why isn't what we have (ie: livbpx?) good enough
22:31.04znfI see
22:31.49nevcairieland there are a lot of releases in hevc already, because noone really cares what the scene thinks anymore :p
22:32.16znfwhat footage I saw (some tvshows with x265 vs. x264), the x265 stuff seemed to look better (at 720p or 1080p) at a significantly lower bitrate
22:32.21znfhence the confusion
22:32.58znfbut obviously this was on a 41" screen from the couch, not exactly a good oppinion :P
22:33.01nevcairielthat happens mostly because people prefer blurred results over sharp but slightly artifacting
22:33.17nevcairieland hevc has a tendency to blur, while h264 shows blocking or ringing
22:33.36znfthe macroblocks are annoying in dark scenes, yes
22:34.08znfespecially under scene rules @ 720p
22:40.11znfStanzilla, holy shit at the symmetra rework ideas
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23:23.09znfbackblaze should really figure out when I use the PC...
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