| 00:00.27 | znf | I agree with nebula |
| 00:00.31 | znf | that guys sucks balls |
| 00:04.38 | znf | IUOASDHLIJSDHLIASUDIASDJQWLJKN:DQJONCJ"SA |
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| 00:09.25 | Gnarfoz | guess blizzard doesn't really know when 02:00 CEST is |
| 00:09.36 | znf | heh |
| 00:10.07 | znf | I don't know what to do with those hands tough :-p/ |
| 00:10.13 | znf | that fucker gets too fast :( |
| 00:11.08 | nebula | you can't kill it before the second cast? just stun the dude chasing you and nuke it down |
| 00:13.52 | znf | I'm shadow. With what? :D |
| 00:14.15 | nevcairiel | roots dont really work well, they break almost instantly in there |
| 00:14.26 | nebula | znf: mindbomb? |
| 00:14.34 | nevcairiel | but sprinting and typhooning helps |
| 00:14.39 | znf | nebula, no, I mean, burst them down with what? |
| 00:14.40 | znf | :) |
| 00:14.58 | nevcairiel | your lvl 152 weapon that you would've had if you didnt suck! |
| 00:14.59 | znf | I'm only ilvl 922 |
| 00:15.26 | nebula | i mean just the stuff you can cast, just a full rotation on him instead of running in circles spamming volt bolt |
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| 00:19.44 | znf | I simply don't have enough burst to DPS the hand while mind bombed |
| 00:20.12 | znf | and on my 3rd hand, I haven't gottan Raest to even 80% :D |
| 00:21.52 | nevcairiel | dont worry, it only gets worse from there |
| 00:22.18 | nevcairiel | also why did i bother to do a m+ this week if we dont even get s hit for it |
| 00:23.36 | znf | actually I get him to 75% |
| 00:23.39 | Gnarfoz | looks like I forgot about 1&1 doing some maintenance on my internet connection |
| 00:23.47 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 00:23.56 | nevcairiel | luckily you finished your medic |
| 00:25.53 | Gnarfoz | indeed, seems to just have been a short interruption right now, but they informed me about an outage of an hour |
| 00:27.15 | znf | fuck this |
| 00:27.29 | znf | didn't needed it when it was current, won't ever need it |
| 00:27.31 | znf | shitty skin anyway |
| 00:27.48 | Gnarfoz | ah |
| 00:27.54 | Gnarfoz | they did what I assumed they would do |
| 00:28.06 | Gnarfoz | my line is now Versatel-backed |
| 00:28.18 | Gnarfoz | or rather, the routing is, not sure how all that works |
| 00:28.41 | nevcairiel | I wonder when they'll put Super Vectoring cards into my street box |
| 00:28.55 | Gnarfoz | good question |
| 00:29.01 | Gnarfoz | I was kind of expecting it to be that |
| 00:29.04 | znf | it's been 30 minutes already blizzard |
| 00:29.16 | Gnarfoz | although 1&1 has been offering 200 Mbit/s here for several months |
| 00:29.18 | Gnarfoz | so I'm not sure |
| 00:31.25 | nevcairiel | telekom even has a gigabit offering now, although i wonder in w hich areas that is actually available |
| 00:31.40 | nevcairiel | 1000/500 is quite a nice setup otherwise =p |
| 00:32.44 | Gnarfoz | should be available at all the places they have ftth |
| 00:32.48 | Gnarfoz | so basically nowhere |
| 00:32.58 | Gnarfoz | (my brother's ex-house, tho) |
| 00:34.01 | znf | where do you do the silithus thing? |
| 00:34.03 | znf | can I just go there? :P |
| 00:34.12 | nevcairiel | you shoul have a quest that sends you there |
| 00:34.35 | znf | uhm, nope |
| 00:34.50 | nevcairiel | possibly to stormwind first |
| 00:34.55 | nevcairiel | oh right horde |
| 00:34.57 | nevcairiel | no idea there |
| 00:35.03 | Gnarfoz | I wonder |
| 00:35.06 | Gnarfoz | do I still have ipv6? |
| 00:42.07 | nevcairiel | normal vectoring basically turned up practically over night here |
| 00:42.16 | nevcairiel | maybe S-Vector will appear sometiem randomly as well |
| 00:42.27 | nevcairiel | they talked about upgrading all existing boxes 2019 latest |
| 00:42.33 | nevcairiel | i was just hoping for earlier =p |
| 00:44.54 | znf | Strip the silly copper out of the buildings |
| 00:44.59 | znf | Replace with cat6 |
| 00:45.02 | znf | Or fiber |
| 00:45.41 | nevcairiel | the buildings are not the problem, but the cable to the fiber box on the street |
| 00:46.35 | Gnarfoz | the buildings are also a problem |
| 00:46.58 | nevcairiel | at least you're not at the mercy of your ISP for those, well, not necessarily anyway |
| 00:47.07 | Gnarfoz | at the mercy of you landlord instead |
| 00:47.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:48.05 | Gnarfoz | basically, nobody will take the responsibility, financial and technical risk, to make the street cabinet <> your basement/your landlord's basement (if you have one) connection |
| 00:48.18 | znf | so where do you live Gnarfoz? |
| 00:49.07 | Gnarfoz | how do you mean? |
| 00:50.04 | nevcairiel | telekom will continue to use copper as long as they can, and after super vectoring there is already G.fast that presumably can deliver gigabit over that line |
| 00:50.08 | znf | county? |
| 00:50.09 | znf | land? :P |
| 00:50.15 | znf | oh there we go, server shutdown in 10 |
| 00:50.47 | Gnarfoz | Baden-Baden, which is, unsurprisingly, in Baden-Württemberg |
| 00:51.10 | Gnarfoz | so the time was 02:00 CET, not CEST, that's kind of what I expected anyway |
| 00:51.35 | znf | cool, let's search for cars in that area |
| 00:51.55 | Gnarfoz | y tho |
| 00:52.11 | znf | dunno |
| 00:52.11 | znf | :D |
| 00:52.15 | Gnarfoz | we just had a big oldtimer meeting thing last weekend, would have found plenty of cars |
| 00:54.33 | znf | my needs are "simple" |
| 00:55.03 | znf | 530/535d, 2004+, auto, Parking Sensors at least on the rear, heated front seats |
| 00:55.20 | znf | oh, and needs to be sedan |
| 00:57.06 | Gnarfoz | what do you need a 5-series for, aren't you single with no kids :P |
| 00:57.22 | znf | 3-series is more expensive |
| 00:57.45 | Gnarfoz | that's... a bit odd |
| 00:57.56 | Gnarfoz | just bmw things, I guess |
| 00:57.59 | znf | E90/91/92 are newer than E60's |
| 00:58.10 | Gnarfoz | as if I knew what those numbers meant |
| 00:58.17 | znf | E90/91/92 are series3 |
| 00:58.22 | znf | E60 is series 5 |
| 00:58.29 | znf | E61 is series 5, touring |
| 00:58.52 | znf | E91 is series 3 touring, E92 is series 3 cabrio/coupe |
| 01:03.47 | znf | Anyway, E60 (series5) was made from 2003-2010 |
| 01:04.19 | znf | Technically E90 was 2004 (december) - 2013 |
| 01:04.59 | znf | but, they have smaller engines, it's harder to find a 6-cyl engine on the E9x's |
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| 02:03.46 | znf | >tv altered carbon |
| 02:03.47 | Catal1na | Altered Carbon 2018 (Running). Previous Episode: [1x10] The Killers on 2018-02-02 (046 months). Next Episode: not yet scheduled. http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/12036/altered-carbon |
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| 03:29.33 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: HandyNotes OnEnter still does the mapFile strings rather than uiMapId? |
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| 05:41.31 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: ...on the minimap pins only. |
| 06:15.15 | nevcairiel | Kemayo: forgot to clear it from pins when it wasnt meant to be there, should be fixed |
| 06:24.30 | nevcairiel | i wonder if you're the first using the new GetNodes2 API =p |
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| 11:43.28 | Gnarfoz | so nevcairiel |
| 11:43.32 | Gnarfoz | about that guild join :D |
| 11:43.44 | Gnarfoz | still interested at all? :p |
| 11:43.52 | nevcairiel | i noticed that you raid on thursdays, i cant do thursdays |
| 11:44.16 | Gnarfoz | yeah I figured |
| 11:44.30 | Gnarfoz | we also just swapped the tuesday to wednesday |
| 11:44.34 | Megalon | thursday shmursday |
| 11:44.43 | Gnarfoz | that probably needs to be updated on wowprogress |
| 11:44.44 | nevcairiel | wed/thur raid? that seems awfully clustered |
| 11:45.16 | Gnarfoz | that was kind of the intent |
| 11:45.27 | nevcairiel | currently trying out a new guild on my realm, its so risk-free if your old guild is dead anyway and you dont have to switch realm |
| 11:45.29 | Gnarfoz | we noticed that often times we had to 'start over' on tuesday because it's so far from thursday |
| 11:46.32 | Gnarfoz | also, we have some people who have the time and motivation to finish clearing a raid with a PUG or so after we're done raiding for the week and maybe haven't fully cleared yet |
| 11:46.51 | Gnarfoz | our own raid being on Tuesday kind of prevents that unless they find a group at like Tuesday 23:30 |
| 11:46.59 | Gnarfoz | so that helps them out as well |
| 11:47.37 | Gnarfoz | (we're also probably moving invite/start to 19:45/20:00, too many people with kids or too much work, these days) |
| 11:48.21 | Megalon | :o |
| 11:48.31 | Gnarfoz | ANYWAY |
| 11:48.52 | Gnarfoz | since you'd probably be at the movies every 2nd raid day, that'd be kind of derp |
| 11:49.43 | Gnarfoz | I'll remember to give you a shout if we ever move off Thursday :-P |
| 11:49.44 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 11:50.02 | nevcairiel | i managed to convince my old guild to switch off thursdays |
| 11:50.13 | nevcairiel | and the new one was on wed/sun anyway |
| 11:56.12 | nevcairiel | man downloads move fast today, tagged this 2 hours ago and already 30k downloads |
| 12:07.57 | Funkeh` | they are probably just updating the download counter faster |
| 12:08.11 | Funkeh` | seems like they keep changing how frequently that updates |
| 12:47.59 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: whats a good ret paladin questing/leveling leggy? |
| 12:48.38 | nevcairiel | gotta spend those 1000 tokens |
| 13:08.13 | nebula | the dp ring is pretty great, i'll probably use that and either prydaz or the cloak |
| 13:08.53 | nevcairiel | the other talents on that row dont seem very level-y |
| 13:09.12 | nebula | crusade on cd |
| 13:09.15 | nebula | ez |
| 13:09.45 | nebula | but i see your point |
| 13:10.30 | nevcairiel | crusade needing to stack up is a bit bad on short fights, and inquisition just feels weird |
| 13:10.35 | nebula | yea |
| 13:11.21 | nevcairiel | i got the speed boots for my first leggy, but have the 1000 thingys to pick a second one |
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| 13:46.38 | quiescens | o.o |
| 13:46.48 | quiescens | go to sleeps |
| 13:52.11 | nevcairiel | its 4pm |
| 13:52.13 | nevcairiel | not sleepy time |
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| 15:47.26 | znf | I really fucking hate it when stuff asks me for recaptcha codes on the first try |
| 15:49.36 | znf | (looking at you, twitch) |
| 15:50.20 | nebula | first try? |
| 15:51.10 | znf | yeah, I mean, I open up the app, asks me for log in (haven't used it in a while), and I have the recaptcha shit right away |
| 15:51.26 | znf | and it's one of those annoying "select squares with cars" or whatever |
| 15:51.34 | znf | that goes trough 3 slides |
| 15:52.04 | Andols | "Many Talents and PvP Talents have been adjusted." thanks for the information |
| 15:53.07 | znf | why the fuck did I run out of disk space on C: |
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| 16:06.16 | znf | I'm tempted to mess around with my pagefile again |
| 16:06.30 | znf | 24GB seems excessive |
| 16:16.05 | znf | where's Kesava? |
| 16:17.30 | nevcairiel | he was around yesterday |
| 16:18.41 | znf | can't seem to get my pixel-perfect scale on 2560x1440 |
| 16:20.00 | znf | tought he'd knew how :-S |
| 16:22.19 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.39 | nevcairiel | or it probably does that automatically since he likes the pixel perfectness |
| 16:23.46 | nevcairiel | just make sure uiscale ignore is on |
| 16:25.25 | znf | I think I tried that, but still can't get it working |
| 16:25.35 | znf | the game reports 2133.33 x 1200 :-/ |
| 16:27.00 | nevcairiel | why is your resolution so weird |
| 16:27.10 | znf | it's 2560x1440 :-| |
| 16:27.37 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/vvESgys.jpg |
| 16:29.11 | nevcairiel | 1200 is the smallest UI scale it a llows, ie. 768/0.64 |
| 16:29.16 | nevcairiel | but KNP ignores that |
| 16:29.46 | znf | it's not KNP that I actually have issues with :P |
| 16:30.18 | znf | rather than the rest of my fots |
| 16:30.20 | znf | fonts |
| 16:30.30 | znf | seems that whatever I set the UI scale to, it ends up being 1 |
| 16:30.34 | nevcairiel | then your problem is your resolution |
| 16:30.36 | znf | so I need to use my font to actually 13px |
| 16:30.44 | nevcairiel | because you need 0.533333 UIscale for 1:1 pixels |
| 16:30.49 | nevcairiel | but the game only allows 0.64 |
| 16:30.56 | znf | aren't you also running at 1440p? |
| 16:31.04 | nevcairiel | yes but i dont care about this shit |
| 16:31.04 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 16:31.54 | znf | well, crap, 13px fonts are... small |
| 16:31.55 | znf | very small |
| 16:33.22 | znf | also, geez, how many events were removed :o |
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| 16:44.18 | Torhal | nevcairiel: You wouldn't happen to know if a map event fires right after logging in, do you? |
| 16:44.29 | nevcairiel | what kind of map event? |
| 16:44.44 | Torhal | On 7.x it did, so HBD's PlayerZoneChanged callback fired. Now, it doesn't fire upon login. |
| 16:44.56 | nevcairiel | hm it should |
| 16:45.11 | Torhal | I think that was an artifact of the old map system's jankiness, though - initially the zone was 0. |
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| 16:45.22 | Torhal | Then after other things loaded, the real ID was known and the map event fired. |
| 16:46.17 | nevcairiel | i have debug code that prins zone changes to chat, and i get one print with the currnet zone on login |
| 16:46.18 | znf | *waves at Torhal* |
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| 16:47.34 | Torhal | Well, something is funky. I just ported to Dalaran from The Vindicaar, and NPCScan's list of NPCs to scan for didn't change. Should be 0 in Dal, says 23 and is looking for Mac'Aree mobs. |
| 16:48.24 | Torhal | Yo znf. |
| 16:49.14 | nevcairiel | Torhal: HBD forces an update on PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, so latest then will it fire PlayerZoneChanged |
| 16:49.46 | nevcairiel | but possibly earlier |
| 16:49.49 | nevcairiel | if other map events fire |
| 16:50.20 | Torhal | I'll have to look into it more. Frenemy is now showing Unknown for my zone and NPCScan has zero objectives on login. |
| 16:52.14 | Torhal | If I actually change zones, though, they update (except for the port from Vindicaar to Dalaran, which is weird) |
| 16:52.17 | nevcairiel | if you miss the first event, you could always just query the current zone on login |
| 16:53.59 | Torhal | Well, that's the thing... I'm registering for the callback to call my update function, then immediately manually calling the update function in :OnEnable() |
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| 16:56.55 | Torhal | Oh, I'm also doing the same for Frenemy. During OnEnable, there's no result from HereBeDragons:GetPlayerZone |
| 16:58.00 | Torhal | Doing a print now just to be certain, but that's the only conclusion I could find. |
| 16:58.45 | Torhal | Yup. "Frenemy: mapID is NON EXISTENT" |
| 17:01.35 | nevcairiel | OnEnable is probably too early |
| 17:01.35 | znf | the b.net downloader is fucking retarded |
| 17:02.02 | znf | it somehow filled up my drive again |
| 17:02.58 | Ressy | How so znf? |
| 17:03.11 | Ressy | Just junk, or same files over &over? |
| 17:03.18 | znf | updating wow |
| 17:03.25 | znf | it used 70GB :-| |
| 17:03.29 | znf | I'm deleting the data folder and trying again |
| 17:03.35 | Ressy | You can do a repair. |
| 17:03.40 | znf | that's what I did... |
| 17:03.43 | znf | and it filled 70gb |
| 17:03.49 | Ressy | The repair itself filled 70gb |
| 17:03.50 | Ressy | or the update |
| 17:03.56 | znf | the repair |
| 17:04.04 | znf | I had ~13GB free left on the drive |
| 17:04.09 | znf | and during the repair it filled it up |
| 17:04.14 | znf | I deleted the data folder now, 70GB free |
| 17:04.55 | znf | https://i.imgur.com/hPEgUCi.png |
| 17:04.56 | znf | oh come on |
| 17:05.28 | Ressy | Restart the battle.net app |
| 17:05.42 | znf | I did. 4 times. |
| 17:07.00 | Ressy | And you've closed all the related processes? Cuz sometimes they stick around. |
| 17:08.10 | znf | yeah, I was just checking that |
| 17:08.12 | znf | agent.exe was still running |
| 17:08.16 | Torhal | nevcairiel: Okay, added PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and that did the trick. Guess I shouldn't have expected completely the same behavior after the update since the map stuff is totally new. |
| 17:11.06 | nevcairiel | if you register for the callback in OnEnable, you would get that once a value is available tho |
| 17:11.45 | Torhal | Yeah, but that requires moving elsewhere and I need the data immediately. :) |
| 17:12.01 | Torhal | Still using the callback, though, because that only makes sense. |
| 17:12.50 | znf | Ressy, why the f* is it "copying data"? |
| 17:12.53 | znf | copying data FROM WHERE? |
| 17:12.58 | znf | I just deleted the whole Data folder |
| 17:13.10 | Ressy | Got a beta folder? |
| 17:13.18 | nevcairiel | if you have the beta installed, it steals data from there |
| 17:13.19 | znf | yes, is it copying it from there?! |
| 17:13.22 | znf | oh, son of a bitch |
| 17:13.23 | Ressy | Possibly. |
| 17:13.28 | bluspacecowtoo | or the PTR |
| 17:13.33 | Ressy | nods |
| 17:13.42 | Ressy | Its a way to reduce the amount needed to download. |
| 17:13.43 | bluspacecowtoo | pretty much any World of Warcraft folder with eligible matching data |
| 17:13.44 | nevcairiel | its a recent feature to cut down on download size |
| 17:13.49 | bluspacecowtoo | new battle.net feature! |
| 17:13.51 | bluspacecowtoo | you likey ? |
| 17:13.54 | znf | I'd rather have the download |
| 17:13.56 | znf | no, I don't |
| 17:14.00 | znf | I download faster :-| |
| 17:14.09 | Ressy | People always complains when Beta starts about being massive downloads. Everyone gets by via copying their live Data folder over... |
| 17:14.12 | Ressy | But.. *shrugs* |
| 17:14.22 | bluspacecowtoo | they forgot to account for bandwidth epeen! |
| 17:14.27 | bluspacecowtoo | oh no! oh the humanity! |
| 17:14.48 | znf | my beta lives on HDD |
| 17:14.51 | znf | my live is on SSD |
| 17:14.58 | Ressy | Battle.net knows where both installations are. |
| 17:15.08 | znf | I download faster than copying it from HDD |
| 17:15.10 | znf | that's my point :P |
| 17:15.16 | Ressy | shrugs |
| 17:15.22 | bluspacecowtoo | if the locations are in the BDA or were previously in the BDA battle.net will know about it |
| 17:15.41 | Ressy | Change the install location in BDA for Beta, then try again with Live. |
| 17:15.45 | znf | the thing was that my beta folder wasn't updated in a while, so meh :P |
| 17:15.56 | znf | I just deleted the data in the beta |
| 17:16.08 | Ressy | Works too. lmao |
| 17:16.13 | bluspacecowtoo | maybe |
| 17:16.15 | bluspacecowtoo | it copied it |
| 17:16.17 | znf | like I said, I really download faster |
| 17:16.17 | bluspacecowtoo | out of RAM |
| 17:16.21 | bluspacecowtoo | *mind blown* |
| 17:16.56 | znf | also, casc is doing a very poor job, still, to clean up old crap |
| 17:17.03 | znf | even tough they introduced that clean-up feature thing |
| 17:17.17 | znf | a fresh data folder should be, what, now, 60GB? |
| 17:17.25 | znf | I read 58 a few days ago? |
| 17:17.54 | nevcairiel | it cleans itself up over time, not instantly |
| 17:17.59 | nevcairiel | so briefly after a patch it'll be bigge |
| 17:18.32 | znf | oh, was wondering why it was slow |
| 17:18.57 | znf | 2 days ago there was a short power outage, that seems so somehow make my router negociate 100Mbit with the switch in the building from the ISP instead of 1Gbit |
| 17:19.21 | bluspacecowtoo | i've seen it do a cleanup right after a scan and repair |
| 17:19.39 | znf | I always felt that the scan & repair is very slow :-/ |
| 17:20.32 | znf | blizzard needs faster CDNs |
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| 17:24.39 | znf | I wonder |
| 17:24.56 | znf | do big companies like blizzard have to announce events like patch days in advance to CDNs? |
| 17:25.15 | znf | like, we release a new version next week, our usual bandwidth needs will spike about 1000x |
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| 17:32.38 | znf | 18GB remaining |
| 17:32.40 | znf | snoozefest |
| 17:44.40 | znf | hey Torhal - is the WoWDB profiler doing anything these days? |
| 17:45.23 | Torhal | You'd have to ask Simca. I handed that off to him four or five years ago since it's mostly for MMO-C and I don't work for MMO-C. :D |
| 17:48.16 | znf | huh, why can't Frenemy find HBD |
| 17:51.30 | znf | wonder why Gnosis is not showing up bars anymore :-| |
| 17:51.59 | Torhal | znf: Did you update Frenemy? I pushed out a release about 15 minutes or so ago. |
| 17:52.30 | znf | I don't think twitch picked it up yet |
| 17:52.47 | znf | says 7.3.0.4 still |
| 17:53.39 | znf | oh, that's because last update was in 2017 for Gnosis |
| 17:53.54 | znf | (didn't I switch to quartz at a point?) |
| 17:54.08 | nebula | 2017 is still legion |
| 17:55.11 | znf | this new scaling (again!) is weird |
| 17:56.42 | Primer | So is mage tower still doable? |
| 17:56.53 | nebula | nope, it's doneski |
| 17:56.58 | Primer | awww |
| 17:57.11 | Primer | I tried that when it first came out and it was incredibly difficult (feral druid) |
| 17:57.24 | Primer | Despite watching others do it just fine in their videos... |
| 17:59.05 | nebula | i recorded my kills and watching them later you'd never know the constant state of panic i was in |
| 17:59.36 | Torhal | znf: Protip - exit Twitch then restart it. Updates! |
| 18:00.02 | znf | Torhal, I just clicked the .ccip on the website and it updated |
| 18:00.09 | Torhal | Ah. |
| 18:00.24 | znf | wth is "Baconator" |
| 18:00.46 | phyber | > exit Twitch then restart it. |
| 18:00.52 | phyber | that actually worked. wat |
| 18:00.52 | Torhal | Last I knew it's a hamburger with a pile of bacon on top. |
| 18:01.10 | Torhal | phyber: Yeah, no idea WTH. |
| 18:01.19 | znf | ah crap, my suf custom module is b0rked |
| 18:01.33 | bluspacecowtoo | then go unb0rk it |
| 18:01.48 | znf | oh, Baconator was my own custom script lol :D |
| 18:02.10 | znf | and my suf module does stuff with unitaura() |
| 18:02.32 | znf | what did change there? |
| 18:03.28 | znf | UnitAura(unit, auraname, nil, auratype) |
| 18:03.37 | znf | error says Usage: UnitAura("unit", [index][, "filter"]) |
| 18:04.24 | Funkeh` | yes |
| 18:04.32 | Funkeh` | so read that and look at what you're doing wrong |
| 18:04.35 | Funkeh` | :D |
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| 18:10.46 | znf | wtf is index? |
| 18:15.18 | Elkano | index is exactly what the name suggests: a number >= 1 (1st, 2nd, 3rd, ... aura) |
| 18:16.53 | nevcairiel | Kemayo: https://pastebin.com/dRQftDkk got spammed with that during eanor encounter |
| 18:17.27 | znf | so now you have to itereta trough auras? |
| 18:17.32 | znf | iterate |
| 18:18.00 | Elkano | I always did in EBB |
| 18:18.01 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: huh, thanks. Iâll fix that when Iâm home. |
| 18:18.19 | Elkano | do you still need to access them by name? |
| 18:19.42 | Kemayo | For my sole use of them itâs less convenient, since thatâs just âif the player has the treasure-tracking buffs up, behave differentlyâ. |
| 18:19.56 | Elkano | try: AuraUtil.FindAuraByName(auraName, unit, filter) |
| 18:19.59 | znf | https://hastebin.com/awiqixudiq.lua I'm trying to figure out what needs to be changed |
| 18:20.02 | Elkano | will do the looping for you |
| 18:25.04 | Elkano | but there should be an easier way for the tracking stuff |
| 18:25.31 | Kemayo | Elkano: ah, handy, I admit I just rolled my own loop without noticing that one existing. |
| 18:28.52 | Elkano | Kemayo: https://wow.gamepedia.com/API_GetTrackingInfo |
| 18:30.52 | EthanCentaurai | ~poke Gethe_ |
| 18:30.52 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Gethe_, pokes Gethe_ repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:31.42 | Gethe | sup? |
| 18:32.10 | znf | what does AuraUtil.FindAuraByName(auraName, unit, filter) return? |
| 18:32.12 | znf | an index? |
| 18:35.31 | EthanCentaurai | ui textures update pls? :3 |
| 18:37.31 | nevcairiel | znf: the same as UnitAura |
| 18:37.48 | znf | yeah, got it |
| 18:37.50 | znf | thx |
| 18:38.31 | Gethe | it's on the way |
| 18:39.06 | EthanCentaurai | thanks <3 |
| 18:39.23 | Gethe | takes a bit to chew through all those textures |
| 18:40.50 | znf | why the hell can't I move bugsack anymore from the center of the screen |
| 18:42.54 | nebula | the drag region is weird iirc, try different areas |
| 18:43.39 | znf | it's like just something in the center O.o |
| 18:43.56 | nevcairiel | not sure why the drag area is so broken |
| 18:44.12 | nevcairiel | but the top left corner in front of the text works for me |
| 18:44.12 | znf | ah, duration time for auras was moved from 6th param to 5th |
| 18:44.36 | znf | that could have probably changed a while ago tough |
| 18:44.46 | nebula | rank dropped out in 8.0 |
| 18:46.12 | znf | another thing - my mouse seems to behave weirdly |
| 18:46.22 | znf | more specifically, when I turn the camera around with the mouse, the speed is erratic |
| 18:47.01 | znf | why does it do that? What am I missing here? |
| 18:47.22 | nebula | change the max fps from 100 |
| 18:47.40 | znf | it's 60 |
| 18:47.50 | nebula | no idea then |
| 18:48.08 | nebula | max fps and razor synapse are the common culprits there |
| 18:48.38 | znf | huh https://i.imgur.com/WDMXrYx.png |
| 18:48.39 | znf | :o |
| 18:48.48 | znf | that's a new one for me |
| 18:51.31 | Andols | nydus? |
| 18:52.45 | znf | no, the outdated driver notification |
| 18:53.41 | Andols | I have got that once, i was confused why the url starts with nydus :P |
| 18:54.07 | znf | nydus was always blizzard's thing |
| 18:55.41 | nevcairiel | yeah they hardcoded a minimum driver version they want |
| 18:55.51 | nevcairiel | which is probably a good idea anyway |
| 18:56.27 | znf | seems that dx12 actually makes a difference |
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| 19:38.22 | Kemayo | Elkano: Isn't GetTrackingInfo a different thing? I thought it was only the stuff for the magnifying-glass minimap icon. I'm talking about the Treasure Map stuff which shows up as a buff. |
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| 20:05.26 | Elkano | oh, ok, haven't played for month, so you are likely right |
| 20:16.04 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: Okay! I have fixed that error. Also, handily, worked out a way to increase detection range for vignettes noticeably. |
| 20:16.29 | Kemayo | And you were definitely right about targeting range decreasing, I think. |
| 20:16.44 | nevcairiel | i dont think that was me |
| 20:17.11 | Kemayo | My memory is clearly excellent across periods of greater than 24 hours. |
| 20:17.17 | Kemayo | *nods* |
| 20:19.39 | Kemayo | Given targeting, it's possible I might want to roll back that range increase after seeing how it works out. It pushes it out to alerting for mobs which aren't even on your minimap yet, which can be... confusing. |
| 20:20.15 | Kemayo | Though, that said, they have accessible coordinates, so I can throw up directions if I need to. |
| 20:22.49 | Kemayo | Next on my low-key todo list: work out whether vignetteInfo.vignetteID is a constant for a given vignette, at which point I could throw away all sorts of hacky detection methods. |
| 20:23.18 | nevcairiel | could dump the db2 data and cross-reference with the API returns to see if it matches, in which c ase it would be pretty constant |
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| 20:24.14 | Kemayo | It's a separate thing from the vignetteGUID which is also in that data structure, and is just a plain number (e.g. 630 for The Oracle in Azsuna), which increases the odds of it being a constant. |
| 20:25.31 | Kemayo | If it's a constant, I can throw out all the fiddly stuff relating to vignette names which differ from the mob's name, and making that work cross-locale. |
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| 20:34.01 | nevcairiel | I have The Oracle under 680, not 630 in th DB2 file |
| 20:38.14 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: Yeah, that way my typo. |
| 20:38.21 | Kemayo | So. A constant. I can work with that! |
| 20:38.26 | nevcairiel | that number at least is constant |
| 20:38.29 | nevcairiel | if thats the GUID |
| 20:38.42 | nevcairiel | i can dump you a list if that helps |
| 20:39.37 | Kemayo | GUID is a different thing for this -- it's "Vignette-0-4211-1220-20296-0-00004FA51B" for the Oracle I'm looking at right now. Assuming this is the same as how it used to work, it changes each time the mob is killed and the vignette returns. |
| 20:39.48 | Kemayo | nevcairiel: A list would be useful, yes! |
| 20:40.27 | nevcairiel | https://pastebin.com/wNEXB5EW here have a csv |
| 20:40.39 | nevcairiel | no clue what the other fields are |
| 20:40.40 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 20:41.32 | Kemayo | Field_3 looks like the associated questid, so that's handy. |
| 20:41.44 | nevcairiel | i thought it would be a player condition id |
| 20:42.05 | nevcairiel | which is an internal wrapper around various conditions, ie. an abstract around quest ids |
| 20:42.45 | Kemayo | Or sometimes field_4 has it. Confusing. |
| 20:43.10 | nevcairiel | maybe Simca or Alram have column headers figured out somewhere |
| 20:43.20 | Kemayo | I did check and the Oracle's Field_4 has the actual tracking questid I've verified for that one. |
| 20:43.34 | Alram | which db? |
| 20:43.39 | nevcairiel | vignette |
| 20:44.05 | Alram | https://github.com/wowdev/WoWDBDefs/blob/master/definitions/Vignette.dbd not up to date :( |
| 20:44.22 | Alram | i'll go map that |
| 20:44.35 | Kemayo | Okay, for ones that have it and not just "0", Field_4 does seem to consistently be the questid. |
| 20:44.48 | nevcairiel | the prevous build had a VisibleTrackingQuestID |
| 20:44.57 | nevcairiel | so my guess is that field 3 is a player condition id |
| 20:44.59 | nevcairiel | and 4 is the quest id |
| 20:45.39 | Kemayo | Well, this is very handy, thank you. |
| 20:46.15 | znf | So many systems have downtimes these days |
| 20:48.15 | Alram | https://bnet.marlam.in/dbc.php?dbc=vignette.db2&bc=e8f3d86ab313c4bdf5cf4f5daea32477 mapped it as far as i could |
| 20:48.40 | nevcairiel | looks good, just as I assumed from the numbers |
| 20:50.24 | Kemayo | Out of curiosity, do we know what the flags can be? |
| 20:50.46 | nevcairiel | that always seems hard to figure out |
| 20:50.52 | nevcairiel | sometimes you can deduct by observation |
| 20:51.06 | nevcairiel | or check if some private server reverse engineered it =p |
| 20:51.10 | Alram | these days i look at lua the most |
| 20:51.21 | Alram | in most recent cases somewhere there's spoilers for some flags |
| 20:55.34 | nevcairiel | vignettes have various flags like show on worldmap, show on minimap |
| 20:55.38 | nevcairiel | i would assume those are in there |
| 20:56.01 | nevcairiel | should be easy to deduct the values if you can find some examples |
| 20:57.35 | nevcairiel | The Blood Moon (965) for example is shown on the world map, has flags 66 (ie 64+2), so one of those is worldmap |
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| 21:21.33 | Torhal | Kemayo: Yeah, I said the same thing - I can likely get rid of my localizations now, for the vignette names. |
| 21:21.52 | Torhal | And you saw that targeting range has decreased? |
| 21:26.20 | Kemayo | Could certainly be me expecting it and seeing something that was already that way in a new light, though. |
| 21:26.23 | Kemayo | Torhal: limited sample size, but I think so. I subjectively felt that I saw more cases where the vignette was on the map but I couldnât target the mob until I was much closer. |
| 21:26.39 | Torhal | That's what I was seeing. |
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| 21:31.37 | quiescens | moo |
| 21:44.50 | Torhal | nevcairiel: interestingly, The Vindicaar is being reported as The Exodar from HBD. I'm assuming that's a Blizzard error. :D |
| 21:45.03 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 21:45.13 | nevcairiel | also which vindicaar? |
| 21:45.23 | nevcairiel | there is so many of them |
| 21:45.29 | Torhal | Krokuun |
| 21:45.38 | Torhal | Let me see if it changes when I port to another |
| 21:45.52 | Torhal | Oh, definitely a Blizzard issue |
| 21:46.02 | Torhal | The worldmap says Krokuun â The Exodar |
| 21:46.04 | Torhal | Hah |
| 21:46.18 | Kemayo | I guess the first time you board it during the intro quests, itâs at the Exodar... |
| 21:46.26 | nevcairiel | weird |
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| 21:46.30 | nevcairiel | mine actually does not do that |
| 21:46.38 | nevcairiel | oh wait it does |
| 21:46.42 | nevcairiel | but onl in the nav bar |
| 21:47.14 | nevcairiel | yeah C_Map.GetMapInfo(831) says The Exodar |
| 21:49.38 | Torhal | Also only in Krokuun. |
| 21:49.38 | Torhal | Other two say The Vindicaar. |
| 21:57.30 | znf | Stanzilla retweets the weirdest things |
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