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07:46.08mitch0~toc
07:46.08purlThe current WoW interface number is 80000, or magical, or apparently very complex.
07:46.30Megalonjust change it to 99999, futureproof that shit!
07:47.34mitch0yeah...
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08:11.39Torhalmitch0: CooldownToGo is missing libraries.
08:12.01TorhalOr, at least, it's trying to load libs that it doesn't ship.
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08:32.22mitch0:(
08:32.35mitch0well, it'll have to wait till I get home then ;)
08:32.41mitch0Torhal: is Bazooka okayish?
08:32.52mitch0(nobody uses CDTG anyway :)
08:33.16mitch0thanks for the heads-up btw!
08:42.10mitch0Torhal: hm. the latest zip seems to be ok...
08:45.01mitch0ah, no
08:45.09nevcairielthe main .toc references AceGUI and AceConfig, while those only exist in the Options sub-addon
08:45.21mitch0apparently I try to load the gui related stuff from the main addon, too
08:45.30mitch0eh ;)
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08:58.39mitch0Torhal: should be better now
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09:33.14quiescensmoo
10:19.24Torhalmitch0: Good deal. And yeah, Bazooka seems fine.
10:19.37TorhalAt least, just running it and turning plugins on and off. Haven't really tried much else.
10:36.43mitch0well, there's not much in there to break (apart from LibJostle... maybe I should just throw that out...)
10:36.56mitch0anyway, time for tagging it then ;)
10:52.04Andols2Did you it so the Menu/bags area also moves up if you have the bar at the bottom?
10:52.28Andols2s/you/you change/
10:52.56Andols2mitch0: ^
10:54.00nevcairielthats what libjostle was for, but noone really cared for it
11:37.06Stanzillawhat exactly are those Deferred XML Node object errors
11:37.44nevcairielit means what it says
11:38.11Andols2Aah
11:38.13nevcairielthe important part is at the end =p
11:38.25nevcairiel"... already exists", what could it mean!
11:38.33nevcairieloh i know, someone does it twice
11:38.51Stanzillayes but it doesnt say which code causes it
11:39.15nevcairielit gives you the name
11:39.18nevcairieleasy to grep for
11:39.21Stanzillawould be helpful if it says "addon x is creating an object that already exists from addon y"
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11:55.26Stanzillameh https://i.imgur.com/rpzRELg.png
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11:58.29nevcairielxml in libraries is bad, hmkay
11:58.35Stanzillayef´h
12:04.59Funkeh`probably going to add a hack to ignore that one in specific
12:05.18Funkeh`author MIA, library is designed entirely around using a template, many addons use it
12:05.42Funkeh`I don't envision him coming back, re-writing the entire thing, and all those addons changing for it
12:06.38Stanzillayou fix it
12:06.42Stanzillathx
12:07.13Funkeh`I can't fix it without coordinating with every addon that uses it to write a new API and have them use it instead of templates
12:07.51Funkeh`It was stupid design from the beggining
12:10.17Funkeh`just hope for the dropdown rewrite soon, dan is getting tired of it so it should be coming
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12:13.39Stanzillawishful thinking
12:13.53Funkeh`not really
12:14.24Funkeh`the fact that he had to hack around the pvp taint and not fix it, and he's annoyance with that, is a good motivator
12:17.38Stanzillagood
12:17.59Funkeh`is it only 1 entry that's erroring or multiple
12:26.35Stanzillai only have allplayed using it
12:26.45Stanzillaoh wait
12:26.48Funkeh`then it wouldn't error
12:27.11Stanzillayeah I just looked at the console again
12:27.12Funkeh`also your screenshot says otherwise
12:27.13Stanzillathats what I just saidd yeah
12:27.39Funkeh`also this is a different library to the one i was talking about
12:27.46Funkeh`but also implemented with the same shitty design
12:28.45Funkeh`if find DropDown then return end
12:28.49Stanzillahttps://i.imgur.com/oSWTRnO.png
12:43.19Funkeh`try the latest alpha
12:55.55quiescensmoo?
12:57.06Stanzillamaybe next week when the twitch app updates again
12:57.19Funkeh`yeah takes about an hour to show up
12:58.18quiescens):
12:58.56StanzillaNO CHANGELOG PROVIDED
12:59.15quiescensgives Stanzilla a cookie
12:59.19quiescenso.o
12:59.27Funkeh`using the wowace packager for tha tunfortunately
12:59.58Stanzillashame
12:59.59Stanzillafix it
13:00.31Funkeh`it's used as a library so I can't move it off
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13:51.05Funkeh`Stanzilla: is it ignored now?
13:51.25Stanzillaye
13:53.08Funkeh`ok tagged it
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15:05.44pompy~lart Torhal
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15:05.56pompy:D
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15:49.32Gnarfozdid did anyone see that "is my problem cache related" website that simply says yes
15:50.07Gnarfoz(like the various others has-x-been-fixed-yet.com sites that just say No, etc...) I can't find the URL
15:54.22Fiskermake it as a service Gnarfoz
16:05.22GnarfozI'm convinced there's already a service to make these
16:05.43silentium"there are two hard things in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors"
16:13.05Gnarfozindeed
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18:25.46TorhalGnarfoz: http://shouldiblamecaching.com/
19:15.07Kalrothis that page cached
19:20.17znfYes
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20:58.03znfhey Stanzilla
20:58.13znfhere's what you have to look forward when you eventually switch to macOS
20:58.26znfI create a .dmg, scripted, with all the fancy things including a custom volume icon
20:58.35znfI do all my tests, delete the .dmg's (they're in trash)
20:58.49znfbuild a new .dmg on a separate system, from all the build scripts and so on
20:58.53znfmove dmg to mac
20:58.59znfclick to mount
20:59.05znfsuddenly I have 2 volumes mounted
20:59.08nevcairielthe entire dmg concept is totally crazy
20:59.13znfone with icon, the other one without
20:59.15nevcairielway to screw up installers
20:59.24Stanzillasounds lovely
20:59.27znfand I was like.. where the fuck do I have the 2nd one from?!
20:59.36Stanzillaand what nev said, I always found that system to be terrible
20:59.37znfaaaand, check this
20:59.37znfhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/465339412042219530/471058294421848096/unknown.png
20:59.45Stanzillahaha
20:59.46znfit mounted it. from. trash.
20:59.48znflike... ?!
21:00.16znfI couldn't figure out what sort of voodoo sorcery made it mount the volume as read-write
21:01.26znfthat .DS_Store crap is voodoo
21:03.24znf(wish vmware would better supply macOS vm with some gpu acceleration)
21:07.42znfanyway, I'm hiting a major roadblock with the volume icon
21:08.34Stanzillayour mom is a roadblock
21:13.21znfmmm, yeah
21:13.21znfhttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1197325
21:13.40znfI need to set HFS+ attributes in order to make that work, and switch to HFS filesystem generation instead of iso
21:13.42znffuck. that.
21:22.35quiescenssilleh znf
21:23.59znfI'm slowly starting to pick up speed on the automake/configure/makefile building tools under linux
21:27.22GnarfozTorhal: thanks! the window of opportunity to use that on work slack had passed basically when I asked the question, but this time I shall cache the URL in my head! ;)
21:31.30quiescenso.o
21:34.17StanzillaFunkeh`: sorry I lied https://i.imgur.com/SalNDye.png
22:04.26Gnarfozhmm, archy and archaeo helper both b0rken by 8.0, not surprisingly
22:27.14winkinteresting how the armory shows some toons with stat-squished ilvl and some not
22:27.25winkmy current theory is: has logged in since 8.0 and hasn't
22:36.54Stanzillaprobably true
22:53.17winkwhy do they change the armory urls every few years. bah
22:53.29winkanyone got an allied race char's armory url handy for me?
22:59.20Stanzillahttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/zirkel-des-cenarius/Mardivien
22:59.31winkthanks
23:10.03winkthose race numbers.. 1-8 classic, 9 Goblins, 10 BE, 11 Draenei, 22 Worgen, 24-26 Pandaren, allied races 27-36 but without 31-33,35
23:10.06winkmindboggling
23:10.32winkbut there's 4 missing, so apparently just the release order wasn't so clear
23:10.37Stanzillayeah
23:10.49winkbut Goblins vs Worgen has baffled me for a while :D
23:11.27winkalso why is Druid 11 and Monk 10?
23:20.54Gnarfozbare durid is for fite
23:21.13Gnarfozalso, the armory urls don't seem to have changed in a bunch of years now
23:21.32Stanzillayou only think that because I linked the old format
23:21.37Stanzillanew is worldofwarcraft.com
23:22.26Gnarfozsneaky Stanzilla
23:22.35Stanzillabookmarked stanzilla
23:23.14Funkeh`Stanzilla: you really are useless
23:23.24Stanzillasometimes \o/
23:23.50StanzillaI mean you could have coded it right the first time though!
23:24.15Funkeh`there's nothing wrong with the code it scans for the name DropDown!
23:25.17GnarfozDrop it TO THE GROUND
23:25.57Stanzillaobviously not scanning right!
23:28.47winklets see how long the forward stays. also new guild armory urls/pages? we will see
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