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| 02:19.56 | Parnic | nvm, tagged an alpha to force a build that way. commits weren't working. |
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| 18:49.19 | Gnarfoz | hm, TeamSpeak integration with Twitch, that seems like a weird thing for Twitch to support, considering they have their own (voice) chat platform |
| 18:49.37 | Gnarfoz | (maybe they don't and it's just open enough for TeamSpeak to be able to do this on their own) |
| 18:55.40 | Gnarfoz | "Redo Azerit power choices with gold, doubling each time. Cost is cut in half every 3 days." why does this remind me of old school talent resets? :P |
| 18:56.50 | nevcairiel | because its supposed to |
| 18:56.59 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 18:57.16 | Gnarfoz | should I... start fishing those rare fish for underlight angler |
| 18:57.27 | Gnarfoz | or actually level on beta to know what to expect :D |
| 18:57.38 | Gnarfoz | or waste time browsing random shit |
| 18:57.41 | nevcairiel | one of those has a long-term use |
| 18:58.03 | nevcairiel | underlight angler really doesnt take that long, just make s ure to bring mana baits |
| 18:58.18 | Gnarfoz | I already bought most of the rare baits from the AH |
| 18:58.19 | nevcairiel | but you hopefully bought some of those instead of investing only in rep :) |
| 18:58.29 | nevcairiel | then it'll be even easier |
| 18:58.35 | nevcairiel | fishing up the baits is the s low part |
| 18:58.39 | nevcairiel | if you have it, its basically guaranteed |
| 18:59.10 | Gnarfoz | yeah I have like 30, and 70 more drowned mana left over... that's easy enough to farm, ~20 minutes for 100 if the group is big enough to have the buff up constantly |
| 18:59.17 | Gnarfoz | guess I'll do that first, then |
| 18:59.25 | Gnarfoz | after getting rid of some of these browser tabs :P |
| 19:00.00 | Gnarfoz | nice of teamspeak to warn people that the next client release will require at least server version 3.1 |
| 19:00.22 | Gnarfoz | (has a slight whiff of them not being terrible - my nose must be mistaken) |
| 19:00.40 | nevcairiel | i've been watching old episodes of Good Mythical Morning for a week, those guys are hilarious and years of content i never saw |
| 19:01.33 | Gnarfoz | can I or can I not let the question "why aren't there prescription glasses made with Gorilla Glas?" go? :P |
| 19:05.52 | nevcairiel | i'm sure you can |
| 19:06.03 | Gnarfoz | that'd be 50% of my open tabs right now |
| 19:06.03 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:06.07 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 19:06.41 | Gnarfoz | really, the root question is "what lens material should I get next time" |
| 19:06.55 | Gnarfoz | with "next time" feeling like it's around the corner |
| 19:07.12 | nevcairiel | apparently not gorilla glas because that doesnt exist |
| 19:18.45 | znf | why would you get glass as a lens material in the first place? |
| 19:18.59 | znf | it's heavy, very prone to scratch, gets foggy very fast when you enter/exit areas |
| 19:19.12 | Gnarfoz | only the first one is a property of glass |
| 19:19.18 | Gnarfoz | the other two are properties of coatings |
| 19:19.26 | Gnarfoz | also, I didn't even think about it being actual glass, tbh |
| 19:19.44 | Gnarfoz | and glass is still a valid/used lens material, although it has obviously become less common |
| 19:20.06 | znf | breaks if dropped :P |
| 19:20.17 | Gnarfoz | depends on the glass |
| 19:20.29 | znf | drop it enough times, doesn't matter the glass type |
| 19:20.38 | znf | breaks/chips whatever |
| 19:20.46 | Gnarfoz | I'm not in the habit of dropping my glasses all the time (just like my phone :P) |
| 19:21.11 | Gnarfoz | one of the reasons against Gorilla Glas is apparently that it's so hard/brittle that when it breaks it shatters into many pieces |
| 19:21.17 | Gnarfoz | not something you want happening in your face |
| 19:21.32 | znf | >tv altered carbon |
| 19:21.33 | Catal1na | Altered Carbon 2018 (Running). Previous Episode: [1x10] The Killers on 2018-02-02 (046 months). Next Episode: not yet scheduled. http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/12036/altered-carbon |
| 19:21.38 | Gnarfoz | >tv altered glass |
| 19:21.39 | Catal1na | No show found named "altered glass" |
| 19:21.41 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 19:21.48 | nevcairiel | the latest variant of gorilla glas is designed for multiple repeated drops |
| 19:21.53 | Gnarfoz | >tv the orville |
| 19:21.54 | Catal1na | The Orville 2017 (Running). Previous Episode: [1x12] Mad Idolatry on 2017-12-07 (048 months). Next Episode: [2x1] TBA on 2018-12-30 (035 months). http://www.tvmaze.com/shows/20263/the-orville |
| 19:22.01 | nevcairiel | but they still dont make glasses out of it :D |
| 19:22.19 | Gnarfoz | there are probably more reasons; reddit is not a particularly scientific source ^^ |
| 19:23.35 | Gnarfoz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:CarWindowPolarization.jpg interesting, I thought those patterns were from some kind of coating |
| 19:23.46 | Gnarfoz | (see them all the time when I'm wearing my polarized sunglasses) |
| 19:24.01 | nevcairiel | polarization is often done with a coating |
| 19:24.04 | nevcairiel | so not entirely wrong |
| 19:24.12 | Gnarfoz | heh, true |
| 19:24.23 | znf | I should really get lasik :-/ |
| 19:24.53 | Gnarfoz | I've certainly spent more on glasses in sum than something-like-lasik would cost, over the years |
| 19:25.11 | Gnarfoz | but I've seen way too many bad results to risk that |
| 19:26.17 | znf | would be nice to wake up and see, without finding my glasses first |
| 19:26.25 | Gnarfoz | (more GG: it would have to be cut and polished before being turned into actual gorilla glas, that would make it stupidly expensive to make prescription lenses out of it) |
| 19:26.35 | Gnarfoz | just put them in the same place every time? :P |
| 19:26.55 | nevcairiel | you're that blind that this is a concern? |
| 19:27.03 | Gnarfoz | that was going to be my next question |
| 19:27.20 | znf | it's just annoying to have to put glasses on before I'm able to do stuff around the house :P |
| 19:27.30 | znf | I'm not that blind, but I'd have a hard time finding my keys without them |
| 19:28.18 | Gnarfoz | same thing: always in the same place :D |
| 19:29.52 | znf | yeah, no |
| 19:29.55 | znf | I'm not that organized |
| 19:30.00 | Gnarfoz | obviously :D |
| 19:30.30 | Gnarfoz | I think the two most annoying things for me are how small everything looks and the strong dropoff of in sharpness when not-quite-on-center |
| 19:31.12 | Gnarfoz | (the latter being something I didn't notice before getting these particular glasses, which have a bigger lens area; guess I just turned my head before) |
| 19:31.28 | znf | plus, another issues is that I'm starting to get headaches |
| 19:31.34 | znf | due to them pressing on my nose bridge all the time |
| 19:31.43 | Gnarfoz | that's unlikely to be the actual reason |
| 19:31.52 | znf | pretty sure it is |
| 19:31.54 | Gnarfoz | either you need new glasses (prescription not accurate anymore) or they're not centered correctly |
| 19:32.05 | Gnarfoz | do you have one of those plastic frames that doesn't have nose pads? |
| 19:32.12 | znf | it has nose pads |
| 19:32.21 | Gnarfoz | you could get soft pads |
| 19:32.29 | znf | they are |
| 19:32.31 | znf | silicone |
| 19:32.35 | Gnarfoz | well |
| 19:32.37 | znf | got them changed a while ago |
| 19:32.57 | nevcairiel | i tried out wearing blue-light-filter glasses at the PC for a while, but i feel weird wearing glasses |
| 19:32.59 | Gnarfoz | in that case, if it's the pads, your nose should ache, not your brain :D |
| 19:33.21 | znf | brain doesn't hurt |
| 19:33.24 | znf | no pain receptors, right? :D |
| 19:33.38 | Gnarfoz | I meant headache vs. other-ache |
| 19:33.54 | Gnarfoz | either way, go see your optometrist and tell them exactly your issues, they should know what to do :P |
| 19:34.23 | znf | I've went to some optometrists thingies, but they all wanted to sell me new expensive glasses :P |
| 19:34.24 | znf | such is life |
| 19:34.27 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: aren't those at best as useful as using f.lux or something? |
| 19:34.40 | nevcairiel | those are definitely more useful |
| 19:34.50 | nevcairiel | because physical light filtering is much better then a software solution |
| 19:34.51 | znf | either way, too many variables |
| 19:35.07 | Gnarfoz | well, they're probably trying to sell you new ones because yours are giving you headaches! :P they don't really need to be expensive, though |
| 19:35.15 | nevcairiel | because even if you ch ange the whitepoint in software, the screen may not emit as little blue as you would like |
| 19:35.29 | Gnarfoz | hm yeah, good point |
| 19:35.58 | znf | new, lighter frames, need to be centered, lenses need to be lighter so pads don't press on the nose bridge, they get foggy, I can't run with them properly (not that I run much, but I always have to take them off during sex) |
| 19:36.02 | nevcairiel | i'm still not entirely convinced it even makes that much of a difference |
| 19:36.20 | Gnarfoz | I'd hope during sex you're close enough for glasses not to be an issue :D |
| 19:36.53 | znf | eh, I'd still like to see sharper :P |
| 19:37.01 | Gnarfoz | getting those blue-filter ones with a prescription would be nice; I don't trust ordering prescription glasses from somewhere, though, centering is one of the most important things with prescription glasses |
| 19:37.21 | znf | either way, last time I went out to find frames, I hit around 5 stores |
| 19:37.26 | znf | all the decent looking ones were 200â¬+ |
| 19:38.07 | Gnarfoz | well, if "expensive" is a factor for you, maybe you should get over your vanity :p |
| 19:38.43 | znf | there's so many Cons to having to wear prescription glasses, that I'd rather not :-/ |
| 19:38.44 | Gnarfoz | we're exporting all our shit across the world - has Fielmann not expanded to Romania, yet? |
| 19:38.56 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 19:38.56 | znf | never heard about it |
| 19:39.08 | Gnarfoz | biggest optometrist chain in Germany |
| 19:39.22 | nebula | i switched to zenni to avoid the luxottica empire |
| 19:39.35 | nevcairiel | yeah those american brands dont mean shit to us :D |
| 19:39.38 | Gnarfoz | that sounds like the next troll raid, nevcairiel |
| 19:39.42 | Gnarfoz | *nebula |
| 19:40.04 | znf | my frames are polaroid, wonder who makes them now |
| 19:40.19 | nebula | eh? luxottica is italian, and they own like everything eyewear related |
| 19:40.19 | Gnarfoz | my non-prescription sunglasses are from polaroid, same question |
| 19:40.30 | Gnarfoz | it's just a brand now, like Grundig or Nokia |
| 19:40.35 | znf | also, my last issue was that I have a fairly big head, and all the frames I tried are not wide enough |
| 19:40.52 | znf | so basically they kind of press on my temples (and they are a bit stretched) |
| 19:41.02 | znf | all the stores I went to didn't have wider ones :( |
| 19:41.08 | Gnarfoz | that sounds terrible |
| 19:41.31 | nebula | i guess their retail presence i still mostly na though, hm |
| 19:42.17 | Gnarfoz | they own Ray-Ban and Oakley? lol ok |
| 19:42.30 | znf | yup |
| 19:42.33 | znf | they own pretty much everything |
| 19:42.44 | Gnarfoz | they even ate Essilor recently, heh |
| 19:43.00 | Gnarfoz | my previous lenses were Essilor, I think these ones are Carl Zeiss again |
| 19:43.18 | znf | oh, last time I went to find frames |
| 19:43.22 | znf | I went alone |
| 19:43.37 | znf | basically, I'm /that/ blind that I couldn't actually see if they look nice on me or not in the mirror |
| 19:43.55 | Gnarfoz | should use one-day contact lenses for that, I guess |
| 19:44.27 | znf | and for weird reasons, some stores had mirrors so fucking far away from the actual displays |
| 19:44.40 | Gnarfoz | I'm actually unsure how that goes when I go to get new glasses, I've basically only had 3 frames in 19 years |
| 19:44.42 | znf | as in, they had some stupid counter between the mirror and where you could check yourself |
| 19:44.55 | znf | my frames (and lenses) are ~5 years old by now :-| |
| 19:45.10 | Gnarfoz | these are from 2015, I think, and I bet my eyesight has worsened again |
| 19:45.43 | Gnarfoz | I'm considering getting separate ones for day & night use, or at least somehow different ones for long-distance driving |
| 19:46.15 | Gnarfoz | the only ones I'm perfectly satisifed with are the prescription sunglasses, but I can't really use them for everyday things :P |
| 19:46.17 | znf | I tried that once |
| 19:46.25 | znf | Ended up never using the one for night |
| 19:46.42 | znf | My "day" ones had that thingie where they go dark from UV |
| 19:46.45 | znf | what's it called in english? |
| 19:46.51 | Gnarfoz | self-tinting or something |
| 19:47.12 | znf | yeah, that :P |
| 19:47.19 | Gnarfoz | )but polycarbonate lenses already block 100% of UV, so it's really only for brightness) |
| 19:47.24 | znf | yup |
| 19:47.45 | znf | I'm a bit photosensitive |
| 19:47.47 | Gnarfoz | (the prescription sunglasses are polarized, so I can't even see my computer screens with them, they're just black. xD) |
| 19:48.03 | Gnarfoz | (because screens themselves are also polarized) |
| 19:48.58 | nevcairiel | gotta get the other way polarization |
| 19:49.10 | znf | circular? :P |
| 19:49.25 | nevcairiel | would be nice if your sunglasses also dobule as 3d glasses |
| 19:49.31 | Gnarfoz | I don't think polarized sunglasses are available in any kind different than circular :P |
| 19:49.32 | znf | is there a rule to how screens are polarized? |
| 19:49.40 | znf | vertical/horizontal? |
| 19:49.47 | Gnarfoz | "how the manufacturer likes it", probably |
| 19:49.49 | znf | (is that a thing?) |
| 19:50.13 | Gnarfoz | I could check which way my Dell ones here at home are polarized |
| 19:50.15 | znf | hmm, so why would your screen appear black if the polarization is not the same? |
| 19:50.16 | nevcairiel | i just recently learned that imax uses linear polarization, in contrast to the circular for Real3D |
| 19:50.26 | Gnarfoz | the IBM one and the Asus one at work are polarized differently |
| 19:50.38 | nevcairiel | because they opened a imax here =p |
| 19:50.51 | znf | I tought that the way polarization works is that the same time cancels each other |
| 19:51.06 | Gnarfoz | should be just the opposite |
| 19:51.23 | Gnarfoz | zomg can't see anything |
| 19:51.26 | znf | same time/type |
| 19:51.28 | Gnarfoz | except how dirty my screens are |
| 19:51.45 | Gnarfoz | yeah when I tilt my head 90° sideways, I can see |
| 19:51.52 | Gnarfoz | so I guess these are vertically polarized ;) |
| 19:53.19 | Gnarfoz | interesting, the effect is noticeably stronger with the non-prescription sunglasses |
| 19:53.28 | Gnarfoz | guess the prescription interferes with it |
| 20:03.10 | Gnarfoz | Fielmann is kind of a Germany-specific thing, at least at the outset, as it was founded because while our mandatory health insurance covers eyewear, the choice in frames was terrible at the time :D |
| 20:05.25 | Gnarfoz | (apparently, in 2017, they had a 53% market share by sales and 21% by revenue; sounds about right) |
| 20:18.42 | nevcairiel | that relation between sales and revenue paints a sad picture about the price of everyone else |
| 20:19.04 | Gnarfoz | see above re: 200â¬+ when znf went shopping :\ |
| 20:19.21 | nevcairiel | guess the fielmann ads are actually true |
| 20:20.54 | znf | decent looking ones, I mean, and that are some sort of known brand |
| 20:21.39 | nevcairiel | why would you care if its a brand |
| 20:21.57 | Gnarfoz | same reason people buy brand anything, probably |
| 20:22.03 | nevcairiel | stupidity? |
| 20:22.13 | znf | because I don't want Xing-Ming or some chinese crap? |
| 20:22.26 | Gnarfoz | why don't you, if it fits and doesn't look dumb |
| 20:22.33 | Gnarfoz | which are properties entirely unrelated to branding |
| 20:23.01 | znf | they're not exactly decent looking :P |
| 20:23.38 | Gnarfoz | Fielmann's frames are called "Inter 2190 CL", "Q 044 FA", "OBRA 525 FLEX FA", "COMFORT 017 CL" who the hell knows who makes them :P |
| 20:23.53 | Gnarfoz | (they also sell brand ones, of course, but still) |
| 20:25.19 | Gnarfoz | https://www.fielmann.de/brillen/herrenbrillen/ vs https://www.fielmann.de/brillen/markenbrillen/ ^^ |
| 20:28.06 | znf | maybe, but they're probably ordered from a supplier in china, but they put some german quality label on it :P |
| 20:28.24 | znf | as in, they are probably held to better standards |
| 20:29.55 | Gnarfoz | some, but they also manufacture themselves |
| 20:30.18 | Gnarfoz | lenses as well, if not from 3rd party vendors like Zeiss, Essilor, etc |
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| 22:45.57 | Stanzilla | took my a while to realize that you are talking to someone I have on ignore, nevcairiel :D |
| 22:49.48 | nebula | wow, ignoring Gnarfoz is rude |
| 22:50.03 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 22:50.13 | Stanzilla | :( |
| 22:50.25 | Megalon | ignoredfoz :( |
| 23:04.37 | Gnarfoz | I'm still amazed by Google Maps' inferred 3D thing |
| 23:38.10 | Megalon | https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=tinyteee |
| 23:38.17 | Megalon | *foz IRL stream |
| 23:38.41 | Gnarfoz | >160p |
| 23:41.12 | Megalon | are you in seattle, Gnarfoz? |
| 23:41.13 | Megalon | One of the largest mechanical keyboard meetups happens in the summer in Seattle. |
