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00:09.55MalgayneAlright y'all, I'm heading home
00:12.47rayfordSee ya Mal.
00:35.08TheOnyxwowhead has a mod app?
00:35.28bleeteryeah, the app that installs the mod
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00:35.32bleeterand uploads the data
00:35.35TheOnyxoh, that thing
00:35.43TheOnyxWhat issue are you having with it?
00:35.55bleeterit's complete fail in Wine
00:36.33TheOnyxMost things are.
00:36.54bleeterMost small apps with limited functionality work fine
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03:39.04Azor[db]Can you play wow on satalite internet. ATM have dailup with around 600-900 ping, with two users its 1400-2300+, no dsl/cable aviable in area.
03:48.22`-`i guess if the connection is stable, any connection could
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04:43.10LizirMorning :)
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05:44.48AdysMorning Lizir
05:44.52Adysa little hour late
05:51.33Lizirhehe
05:51.37LizirWell Im still aroundish
05:51.53LizirTrying to get the Medalion of the Horde...17k Honor :/
05:52.10LizirIm not sure if it is worth it for the 20 resiliance
05:52.41`-`it's more for the 2 min cooldown compared to the lv60 5 min one
05:52.52LizirOhho! I did not know that one
05:53.38LizirI started out trying my skills at Arena yesterday. And man I need more epics :D
05:53.59`-`hehe
05:54.24`-`anyway trinket is invaluable, it's the first item i bought with my pvp honor points
05:55.39LizirOk :) But I have seen ppl buyiung honor items that is lvl 70 and epics. But I can only find blue lvl 70 in Ogri. Dont I look good enough or? :D
05:56.31`-`yeah ur not looking hard enough
05:57.03`-`it's just one of the other npc in that room
06:00.17`-`all the item names should start with Veteran xxx
06:01.18LizirAllright :D I will go have a look then. Thanks :)
06:02.52LizirAha! Sergeant Kien! :D
06:03.46LizirHm she only sold boots, belt and wrist
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06:14.30`-`yeah
06:14.37`-`there's the veteran triump xxx
06:14.41`-`neck and ring
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06:52.55LizirOh yea then It is the Arena items to fill out the other slots. (lol I like this one line a hour communication) :D
06:55.14`-`well for the other ring slot u could get that 50 spirit shard ring xxxx of the exorcist
06:55.25`-`some pve items are quite decent too for pvp
06:55.31`-`just minus the resilence :3
06:55.53`-`anything to fill in the gaps inbetween getting new gears
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06:59.25LizirTrue. 50 Spirit is loads :D  Well atm I dont know what I will aim for really. PvE or PvP :/
06:59.48`-`both
07:00.04`-`enjoy all aspect of wow before it dies out :/
07:00.33LizirWoW will never die :D and I have done both. It is just on this char :D
07:01.36`-`perhaps i'm just burned out or filled with too much guilt from joining blizzard's arena weap welfare program and joining the cave defender club recently..
07:07.47LizirArena is fun when you win :D
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08:19.59Lizir?!? Why dosnt my addon work. Do I need some special addon to run a Ace 2 Addon?
08:20.09LizirWow that sounded confusing :/
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11:28.46buuIs there anyway to search for enchants by effect?
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13:21.06TraeIs it hard for druids to get and maintain aggro in bear form?  Cause.... I did this L47 elite giant in STV with a 40 druid  and he held aggro the whole time while I (40 hunter) and a 43 shadowpriest burned him down.   (shadowpriest healed the drood)
13:23.01TheOnyxIt depends on how the druid is specced and how well the player plays, but I've seen druids who were better tanks than warriors as long as there weren't several mobs to deal with.
13:23.36TheOnyxDruid taunting is pretty limited to the number of mobs they can maintain aggro on at once.
13:23.52[dRaCo]druids are great tanks
13:24.04[dRaCo]and once they got aggro, it's pretty hard to steal it
13:24.45TheOnyxThey're competent, although personally, player skill being equal, I'd rather follow around a warrior than a druid in bear form.
13:25.12TheOnyxOf course, the power of the druid is that they aren't limited to bear form.
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13:25.43TheOnyxNow, for off-tanking, druids are pure win.
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14:13.33WeezyHow do I report an inappropriate image?
14:13.54TheOnyxOn wowhead?
14:14.04WeezyYes.
14:14.06TheOnyxWas it submitted as a screenshot?
14:14.35WeezyYes, it could be intentional, but I'm not sure. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=11122 [Carrot on a Stick]
14:16.14TheOnyxYeah, I'm fairly certain that does not meet standard screenshot standards, although it did have to get approved to be on the site.
14:16.28TheOnyxWeezy: I'd use the bug report form, since they have to image reporting link.
14:16.29TheOnyxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?contact=report
14:16.41TheOnyx*have no image reporting link
14:17.05WeezyOh great, I couldn't find that on the site. I decided to pop in and ask before I sent an email.
14:17.05WeezyThank you.
14:17.34TheOnyxNo problem. :)
14:18.31WeezyHave nice day, I pop in every once in a while.
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14:48.53evilgeekgrlmorning
14:57.30TheOnyxevilgeekgrl: howdy
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15:08.14TecnoBratmorning all
15:14.24TheOnyxI've got a song based on the Die Hard movies stuck in my head.
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15:48.27TecnoBratwow everyone is slackng this morning
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15:57.15FAiLsup all =)
15:57.38TheOnyxTecnoBrat: Actually, the fact that we're idling would suggest we aren't slacking and that we're actually working.
15:57.46TheOnyxFAiL: Ahoy.
15:57.58FAiLanyone with good exp with mages?
15:59.05TheOnyxFAiL: I have ample experience with a mage. What's your question?
15:59.42FAiLim currently lvl 62. ive been frost spec since lvl 10 lol. do you think fire is better to lvl up as a spec atm ?
16:00.32TheOnyxFAiL: It really depends on your play style. Fire mages burn through mana quick but drop mobs quicky. I actually found that I enjoyed playing as a frost mage because I was better able to handle multiple mobs when soloing.
16:01.01Adysfire spec is best for lvl 10-50 whatever people say tbh
16:01.18Adysthen its up to your playstyle
16:01.24FAiLyeah. you see thats the point for why im asking haha. fire drops mobs quick. but if i pull multi mobs
16:01.27FAiLim toast lol
16:01.50FAiLthe reason im asking, im bored of being frost, i cant do the needed damage while instancing ya know =(
16:01.53TecnoBratTheOnyx, I was more referring to the fact that none of the WH guys are here
16:01.54Adysto be honest, with my naxx gear, at lvl 62 i was toast if i pulled multiple mobs too
16:01.55TheOnyxAdys: I would argue that it's playstyle completely. From 10-50, I loved being able to pull several mobs and handle business.
16:02.20AdysOutland mobs hurt, badly
16:02.41Adysdepends TheOnyx it gets a much higher benefit on the first few levels (up to 30) anyway
16:02.43TheOnyxTecnoBrat: Ah, yes, but Mal usually doesn't show until around noon.
16:03.15TecnoBratTheOnyx, see, slacker!
16:03.39Adysactually skosiris is online
16:03.41TheOnyxAdys: Indeed. If you solo and pull single mobs, fire rocks, Pyroblast is a boon in that instance.
16:03.43Adyshe's just not on irc
16:03.55TecnoBratyea
16:04.01TecnoBratsee, slacker!
16:04.03TecnoBratI got him on MSN also :P
16:04.13FAiLhmm
16:04.21FAiLso. you think i should stick to frost?
16:04.29TheOnyxFAiL: The moral is that it's really personal preference. In general, frost is good for being able to handle multiple mobs, where fire lets you drop single ones quickly at the cost of mana.
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16:04.54TheOnyxFAiL: Well, if you like handling multiple mobs.
16:05.06Adysbeware now :P
16:05.08TheOnyxFAiL: Frost has the disadvantage of slower kills when soloing.
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16:05.15TecnoBratAdys, you suck
16:05.21FAiLyep
16:05.21SkosirisTheOnyx: !
16:05.22TecnoBratyou told him didn't you?
16:05.27TheOnyxSkosiris: !!
16:05.30TecnoBrat:P
16:05.38FAiLTheOnyx: ty so much =)
16:05.42FAiLAdys: ty too =)
16:05.42TecnoBratlol
16:05.44TheOnyxSkosiris: I've been handling business this morning since no Wowhead peoples were in the channel :P)
16:05.55TecnoBratTheOnyx, business?
16:05.58TheOnyxhaha
16:06.04TheOnyxI just answered like 2 questions
16:06.06Adyshe's been stealing all your money.
16:06.07Skosirisso I hear I was slacking :P
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16:06.13TheOnyxYou were!
16:06.22TheOnyxFAiL: You're welcome. :)
16:06.48TheOnyxWhere's Mal? He's usually on.
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16:07.57Awakenso whats this irc for
16:08.15TheOnyxSkosiris: Don't know if you heard, but I took a 6-month hiatus from WoW. I started back up again recently.
16:08.18TecnoBrathaha you were Skosiris!
16:08.24TheOnyxAwaken: Chat & asking questions
16:08.26rayfordAwaken:  Its for discussing piecake.
16:08.34Awakensweet
16:08.39TheOnyxAwaken: ...and for humoring ray
16:08.41TecnoBratSkosiris, see, you weren't in the channel, therefore you were slacking
16:08.42Awakenanyone from venture co server?
16:09.00rayfordTheOnyx:  Thats right, foo!  : P
16:09.15TecnoBratTheOnyx, Mal isn't on MSN either ATM
16:09.17TheOnyxHere, eat your cookie.
16:09.43rayfordHuzzah!  Cookie!
16:09.43TecnoBratrayford, so, I didn't kick anyone last night
16:10.01rayfordTechnoBrat:  Fail.  S'ok, I wasn't on last night anyway.  : P
16:10.24TecnoBratlol
16:10.25rayfordTheOnyx:  Usually Mal signs on at like 9:30.
16:10.46TecnoBrat9:30 PST?
16:10.56rayfordAyup.
16:11.02TecnoBratwhere you guys from?
16:11.08AdysSilly US.
16:11.13TheOnyxwhich would be 12:30 here
16:11.16rayfordMal and I are in SoCal.
16:11.20TheOnyxnod
16:11.22TecnoBratahh cool
16:11.22TheOnyxslackers
16:11.27Adysslackers indeed
16:11.35TecnoBratI'm a westcoaster too, further north tho :P
16:11.48TecnoBratI'm on Vancouver Island, Canada
16:12.15rayfordHehehe.  Canadia.
16:12.31AdysCanadia? oO
16:12.41TecnoBrathehe
16:13.27rayfordinfobot, Canada is America's hat.
16:13.28infobot...but canada is already something else...
16:13.32rayford<PROTECTED>
16:13.33rayford~canada
16:13.34infobotfrom memory, canada is the 52 state of America. only without all the cool shit like guns....
16:13.41rayfordHahaha.
16:13.51rayfordinfobot, canada is also America's hat.
16:13.51infobotrayford: okay
16:13.58rayford~canada
16:13.58infobotrumour has it, canada is the 52 state of America. only without all the cool shit like guns....  America's hat.
16:14.04rayfordThere we go.
16:14.07rayford<PROTECTED>
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16:16.41rayfordMal:  Watch it.  TheOnyx has been huntin for you.
16:17.41TecnoBrat:P
16:17.58Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/What_Wrath_of_the_Lich_King_is_NOT tis pretty now
16:18.41TecnoBratAdys!
16:18.44TecnoBratIt needs another
16:18.50TecnoBrat"Is not Barbie"
16:19.03TecnoBratI guess it should read "Is not Barbie mmo"
16:19.05Adysreminds me of my former guild karazhan teams
16:19.32TecnoBrat(I don't know if you were there for |Pixel| adding wow-europe.com/barbie as a permission denied or not)
16:19.39Adysour guild master had decided "team 1" and "team 2" leads to fights etc due to being in the 'worse team'
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16:19.52Adysso he called them by names
16:19.58AdysThunder and Lightning, Salt and Pepper
16:20.02AdysBarbie and Ken ...
16:20.22AdysBad Boy and Good Girl
16:20.23rayfordHahaha.
16:20.29TecnoBratLOL
16:20.43TecnoBratHold on, lemme find the name of our ZA team we are making
16:21.49TecnoBratlol aparantly its being named "Badass New Gods"
16:22.02rayfordSweet.
16:22.05TecnoBratsounds pretty lame to me :P
16:22.15AdysoO
16:22.47TecnoBratwe named our kara group "We wipe because our tank sucks"
16:23.00TecnoBratI always loved annoucing invites in GC
16:23.21TecnoBrat"We wipe because our tank sucks will be starting invites soon"
16:23.31rayfordTechnoBrat:  Wow.  Thats the greatest group name ever.
16:24.09rayfordMal:  We should name our Kara group.  But name it something to insult Droodette.  : P
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16:24.56TheOnyxinfobot: Malgayne is a slacker.
16:24.57infobot...but malgayne is already something else...
16:25.03TecnoBrat"We wipe because our healers suck"
16:25.04TecnoBrat:P
16:25.06TheOnyxThat bot is sassy.
16:25.13MalgayneMorning Onyx.  :)
16:25.15MalgayneWhat's up?
16:25.17TheOnyxMorning :)
16:25.43TecnoBrat~malgayne
16:25.43infobot[malgayne] Wowhead's Community Manager and also the fuzz and a nub. mad sexy, but only on Tuesdays!, or hoping his Crystalforged Sword will sell in the AH so he can invest some money in his epic flyer.
16:25.46rayfordNah.  I was thinking "We're being held back because we have a nub Druid.
16:25.48TheOnyxNothing... TecnoBrat was just lamenting that you were not on yet and I mentioned that this should be around the time you slackers on the westside get on IRC.
16:25.49rayford"
16:26.08TecnoBrat"held back"
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16:26.16TecnoBratwtf, political correctness?
16:26.34TheOnyx"For The Lose"
16:26.35rayfordOr we could just name it, "Droodette is ugly."  That would work well too.  : P
16:26.36Malgaynegah.
16:26.41Malgaynenow I'm being drafted to do tech support
16:26.42Malgaynebrb
16:26.44TecnoBrat"We can't kill bosses because our druid is a noob"
16:27.14rayfordOooh.  I like that one.
16:27.22TheOnyxrayford: Which one?
16:27.36TecnoBrathaha
16:27.43TheOnyx"My Other Guild Also Sucks"
16:27.55TecnoBratO.o
16:27.58TecnoBratThat reminds me
16:28.03TecnoBratI was doing AV on my alt druid last night
16:28.12TecnoBratmy druid has like 7k HP in healing gear, its an alt
16:28.16rayfordTheOnyx:  "We can't kill bosses because our druid is a noob."
16:28.19MalgayneW actually have a pretty advanced guild on our server called "We Wipe On Trash"
16:28.22TecnoBratsome dude from another server msg's me
16:28.25TheOnyxhaha
16:28.30TecnoBratcomments about my HP, trying to insult me
16:28.32TecnoBratso I armory him
16:28.39TecnoBrathe's in a guild with 8 people
16:28.47TheOnyxMalgayne: Part of my decision in joining a guild is based on name. "We Wipe On Trash" passes.
16:28.53TecnoBrathe has 3 arena teams, each one of them doesn't have a rating over 1550
16:29.17TecnoBratSo I tell him to armory me
16:29.42TecnoBratThat shut him up
16:29.47Malgaynehehehe
16:30.23TecnoBrathe then sends me a tell "want some water"?
16:30.23TecnoBratI died laughing
16:30.23TecnoBratLitterally, some horde killed me
16:30.23TecnoBratcause I was laughing
16:30.35rayfordTechnoBrat:  Hahaha.  Thats awesome.
16:31.58Malgaynehee hee hee
16:35.31MalgayneHey Sko.  :)
16:36.48TheOnyxMalgayne: rayford: What server is it that you guys are on?
16:36.59SkosirisTheOnyx: I knew you quit WoW, but I'm glad you are finally back :)
16:37.04Skosiriswhat realm do you play on?
16:37.12TheOnyxSkosiris: Thanks... glad to be back.
16:37.30TheOnyxSkosiris: I have 3 60s on Lothar-Horde and I just rolled a BE Warlock on Uldaman.
16:37.51MalgayneOnyx--Ray and I are on Draenor-Horde
16:38.02Skosiriskk
16:38.09TheOnyxMalgayne: PvP pr PvE?
16:38.12Malgaynepve
16:38.20TheOnyxNice.
16:38.29MalgayneI bugged him until he re-rolled
16:38.30Malgayne:P
16:38.33TheOnyxHow do paid transfers work? Can I go anywhere?
16:38.41MalgayneYou can't go pve to pvp
16:38.53TheOnyxI figured that much
16:39.09MalgayneBut I believe you can go to most realms--I think they have a few that are off-limits due to population problems, but not this one as far as I know
16:39.59SkosirisTheOnyx: Did you put your 2007 calendar and dungeon guide to good use? :)
16:40.04Skosiris( http://www.wowhead.com/?contest=comments-galore )
16:40.31TheOnyxSkosiris: I did... I read the guide in like a week after getting it. :)
16:40.36rayfordI've got that guide.
16:40.38Malgaynelol!  Grats Onyx.  :)
16:40.47TheOnyxSkosiris: I love the stickers that came with the calendar... I used them to mark raid times, etc
16:41.05Skosirisawesome
16:41.22TheOnyxhaha, i forgot that i'd sent you guys a pic
16:41.25Skosiriswe definitely need to do a new contest asap
16:41.26Awakenthis irc sucks and is for faggots
16:41.29TheOnyxMalgayne: thanks!
16:41.41Malgaynelol
16:42.05MalgayneI know Sko
16:42.22MalgayneI got a bunch of cool stuff to give away, but it's all 'second place' stuff
16:42.34rayfordCan I have some of it, Mal/
16:42.35rayford?
16:42.37MalgayneI want to get something REALLY awesome before we have a new contest
16:42.38TheOnyxMalgayne: I have a 60 mage that will likely stay on lothar, and I dont much play my 60 priest, but I'm toying with joining you guys as my 60 melee shammy
16:42.39rayfordI'll drive up to get it.  : P
16:42.48TecnoBratwow
16:42.55MalgayneOnyx, love to have you
16:42.55TecnoBrat"this irc sucks and is for faggots"
16:42.59TecnoBratgotta love that
16:43.01Skosirislol
16:43.09MalgayneYup.  I would have banned him, except he ran away
16:43.15TecnoBratlol yea
16:44.05rayfordI was gonna say, "NO U!" but he logged off too early. : P
16:44.25TheOnyxAnywho, I need to get back in the swing of things, then I figured I'll be commenting up a storm again... as much as I can anyway. I've been noting that the site has gotten more popular. :)
16:44.35TecnoBratyes, because a "wowhead" channel won't talk about wow
16:44.42TecnoBratwhat did he expect? really...
16:45.35rayfordTheOnyx:  I'm sorta the same.  Mal and Sko enlisted me to write up some articles, and then I get slammed at work.  Managed to write one, then had to focus on work.  >.<  Today I might be able to write another, finally.  : P
16:46.34TecnoBratrayford, join the team
16:46.46TecnoBratRL and work have slammed me bad lately
16:47.05TecnoBratgoing to see a lawyer about all of the custody crap today, etc
16:47.13MalgayneYuck
16:47.39SkosirisTheOnyx: http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowbilling/?id=abl02008p
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16:48.04rayfordMy RL stuff hit me bad like a month and a half ago.
16:48.08TraeI think it'd be cool... when you "step off the boat" in Northrend..... that you have to do a 5 man instance immediately to get attoned to the starting area.  You will have to gain the trust of the people of the area by doing a 5 raid on some other NPC group.  (you'd get 5 memebers of whoever is there to help you)  heh.  Ok perhaps this is stupid, but.
16:48.13Trae[yes I'm bored]
16:48.25TecnoBratTrae, I don't mind that
16:48.33TecnoBratexcept that alts will be an issue
16:48.38TecnoBratyou wont ever be able to do it
16:48.39Traeyah
16:48.54Traeand what if you can't find a pug?  heh
16:48.54TecnoBratbut for a first "here you go" thing, yea
16:49.27TraeThink of it as a "Amusement park where you have to deal with whoever is sitting next to you"
16:49.32Traeanyway
16:49.36Traestupid idea probably
16:50.31TraeElCoronel, heh
16:50.46MalgayneI kinda like the idea
16:50.46TheOnyxrayford: Articles on Wowhead?
16:50.56TraeMalgayne, tx
16:51.01TheOnyxrayford: You wrote one? Where is it hiding?
16:51.23Traewas just thinking it'd be neat to have a mini-instance..... (half of Ramparts?) that you have to do right before getting started
16:51.24MalgayneTerestian Illhoof I think
16:51.49Traecause.... the people coming in should be wary of newcomers... as here is a "land" that has existed for a while with out us entering it
16:52.05Traeso obviously, we'd have to gain their trust somehow
16:52.21TecnoBratTheOnyx, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=15688
16:52.42Traehmmm
16:52.56TecnoBratsee the top part TheOnyx?
16:52.59TecnoBratthats an article
16:53.09Traemaybe make it an instance for one person, but that you get 4 NPC's to fight with you.  to sum up your worth.  heh
16:53.31Traeok I'll be quiet now
16:54.19TecnoBratI want lots of brand new lore
16:54.22TecnoBratthats what I want
16:54.32TecnoBratI wanna see the creativeness of blizzard
16:54.41rayford|snackTheOnyx:  Yeah, I wrote the one about Terestian.
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16:54.50TraeTecnoBrat, I want the ability to learn ports as a DK.  :)
16:54.54Traelawls
16:54.59TheOnyxhrrmm
16:55.02TecnoBratI wish there was a expansion before northrend
16:55.07Traehave DK's be able to Port and Summon
16:55.13TheOnyxSkosiris: It would seem pidgin has a nerfed irc command list
16:55.18TecnoBratwhich was some whole new lore
16:55.30TecnoBratTheOnyx, how so?
16:55.51TecnoBratI don't use pidgin for irc
16:56.41TraeMy only thought is..... with L60 on WoW you got Epic mount.  on TBC you got Flying Epic @70 [plus 5kg]  what cool method of transpo is there for L80 and King?
16:57.58TraeL80 hunters should get something like Aspect of the Uber Leet Mount
16:57.59Traeheh
16:58.08Trae2000% riding speed!
16:58.09Traelol
16:58.14buuWhere the hell is our flying demon mount?
16:58.22MalgayneTrae--it might not be a mount
16:58.31TraeMalgayne, yah...
16:58.39TecnoBrataparantly, you wont get to use your flying mount in northrend right away
16:58.43TecnoBratuntil like 76ish
16:58.44MalgayneBut every level cap has SOMETHING
16:58.59buuI'd guess an even more epic flying mount
16:59.01buu310-400
16:59.05Traewould be cool to have some aspect where everyone in your group could get an uber mount speed.  Aspect of the Peleton
16:59.06Traeheh
17:01.01TraeMalgayne, yeah.... something they'lll need to do.
17:02.08MalgayneIt's always something obviously useful
17:02.16MalgayneBut more importantly it's something big and visible
17:02.20Traehere is the thing though...  why couldn't a DK be a char that quests from L80  I mean... who wants to go back and level a DK that's "just another class" from L60 or 70  up to 80?
17:02.51MalgayneWho wouldn't?
17:02.54Traeheh
17:02.56Malgaynei mean
17:02.59MalgayneWhen TBC came out
17:03.08Traeok so you just got your char to 80.... and now you gotta level another one?
17:03.14MalgayneI re-rolled a BE pally--"just another class"--from 1
17:03.15Traethrough the same content?
17:03.35TraeMalgayne, Belf pally was new content [unless you went to Durotar]
17:03.49MalgayneOnly for the first 20 levels or so
17:04.03Traewould there be a whole L60(or L70) leveling area just for the DK ?
17:04.17Traesee what I'm saying?
17:04.29MalgayneI don't know, Trae--likely not
17:04.42MalgayneBut levelling a BE pally was 50 levels of the same content
17:04.46Traenow if the DK's were overpowered that might be cool
17:04.52MalgayneDK would only be 20 or so
17:04.56Traeheh
17:04.59MalgayneAnd it would be the newest and most exciting content
17:05.04MalgayneI don't think it'll stop most people
17:05.11Traenod
17:05.16Traeeveryone will have to have one
17:05.43Traeso youhave tons of L80 DK's running around
17:05.56Traepersonally
17:06.05TraeI think DK should be L80-L82
17:06.15MalgayneI dunno
17:06.27MalgayneI suspect the "unlock a DK" quest will be insanely hard
17:06.34Traeyah
17:06.36MalgayneAnd we'll see about as many DKs as we see Nether Drakes
17:06.45TraeMalgayne, lawls....
17:07.02MalgayneWell, more than that certainly
17:07.09TraeMalgayne, yeah I'd say so
17:07.12MalgayneBecause a whole new class is more interesting than just a pretty new mount
17:07.32*** join/#wowhead trexxen (i=Thamuz@host-216-76-225-101.jan.bellsouth.net)
17:07.38trexxenhey all
17:07.45MalgayneWelcome, Trexx
17:07.45Traetrexxen, all isn't here, but hey
17:07.49Traetrexxen, ;)
17:08.04trexxeni just relized ewowhead had a irc channel lol
17:08.14Traetrexxen, nod
17:08.17MalgayneIt's only had one for a week or so.  :)
17:08.22trexxenhow long yall been playing wow
17:08.28Traethere's #wowwiki too btw
17:08.36MalgayneYup
17:08.37Traebut it's not as "chill oriented" as this channel is
17:08.45Traethey are all about talking about the wiki
17:08.45Traeheh
17:08.50MalgayneYeah.  Squares.
17:08.53Traehehe
17:08.56trexxenlol
17:08.58Traewhich is cool
17:09.14Traeme, coming up on my 1 yr anniverseary
17:09.15Traefor WoW
17:09.19trexxenyea i am having a problem with wow, well with the classes
17:09.27MalgayneI think I'm ocming up on 2 years actually
17:09.30MalgayneWhat do you mean?
17:09.37TraeI started playing when I saw the SP episode
17:09.38Traeheh
17:09.56Traeafter my friends had been playing
17:10.00TraeI kept calling them losers
17:10.00trexxenwell i have a level 24 lock
17:10.07MalgayneFor shame.  :)
17:10.09Traetrexxen, make sure you get necrosis addon
17:10.15TraeMalgayne, now I'm a bigger loser than they
17:10.17trexxeni used to play muds and came from there to wow
17:10.26rayfordI'm at about two years, too.
17:10.34trexxenok i have a question about class care to help me?
17:10.39MalgayneSure.
17:10.42Traetrexxen, we can try :)
17:10.53Traetrexxen, seriously though, necrosis is awesome lock addon.
17:11.16trexxenok in between hunter rogue and lock what are the strenghts and weakness in bg and pvp of each one
17:11.26trexxentrying to decide what i want to make
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17:11.36Traetrexxen, hunter ftw.
17:11.38Trae:)
17:11.49Traetrexxen, depends on how you like to level
17:11.54trexxenwhy hunter could u explain why u say that
17:11.56MalgayneI pass on pvp questions to the senior authorities
17:11.57Traetrexxen, if you want to take on 8 mobs @ once... Hunter
17:12.08Traetrexxen, if you want to pwn the crap out of 1 thing in pvp, Rogue
17:12.16Traetrexxen, if you like somewhere in between... lock
17:12.32trexxenwell leveling i can level anything
17:12.38Traetrexxen, I have about 3 hunters.
17:12.39rayfordTrexxen:  First question.  What BG range are you going to be PvPing in the most?
17:12.42trexxenjust at level 70 i want a solid char to stick with
17:12.43Traetrexxen, and I've tried all classes
17:13.01trexxenwell i am going to level to 70
17:13.18Traetrexxen, for a 70 farming char... and getting to 70 quickly, a BM hunter with proper pet and spec can't be beat.
17:13.27rayfordSo you'll be PvPing in all level ranges about the same, right?
17:13.33Traeplus... it's awesome on a pvp server
17:13.37trexxenright
17:13.43rayfordOk.
17:13.50rayfordThen you'll want a Lock or a Hunter.
17:13.55trexxeni was tryuing to decide a rogue a bm hunter a demonology lock or a shadow priest
17:14.06Traelocks have a hunter feel IMHO.  so they are viable.  :)
17:14.23trexxenwhat the plus to a hunter over a lock
17:14.26Traetrexxen, I got  70 shadowpriest.... meh
17:14.32trexxenu like him
17:14.49rayfordThere's not much of a plus.  Both are really good, and have their plusses.
17:14.49trexxeni figured a 70 shadow priest would be awsome or crappy no in between
17:14.50Traetrexxen, you get hate with all chars I suppose but more as a shadowpriest.  People want priests to heal.
17:14.52rayford*pluses.
17:15.14Traetrexxen, lock... free mounts
17:15.22Traetrexxen, that's not something to shake a stick at
17:15.22MalgayneTrae, I dont' think that's true anymore
17:15.31MalgayneMy guild would kill for a good shadow priest
17:15.36trexxenwell gold no problem i have close to 800 gold on my lock at level 23 so i can get gold easy
17:15.41MalgayneWe have a great priest, but he refuses to spec out of holy.  :P
17:15.43TraeMalgayne, yah... I know... but....  it does happen often enough.
17:16.06Traetrexxen, where did you get 800g @L23?
17:16.10Traetrexxen, are you buying gold?
17:16.16rayfordLocks are pretty overpowered at 70, and are just a general pain in the butt.  Hunter's, on the other hand, have some crazy DPS, and The Beast Within is a crazy awesome talent in PvP.
17:16.29trexxenwelll my cousin used to play wow and gave me all his equipment and gold
17:16.33Traerayford, the beast I win.
17:16.37Traerayford, lol
17:16.42trexxeni have it on a low level char to transfer it to which evewr one i make lo,.
17:17.00Traetrexxen, ahhh
17:17.15Traetrexxen, well.... yeah... I also would seriously think about PvP realm
17:17.17rayfordTrae:  I've also gotta agree with Mal.  Our guild could use a good Shadow Priest.  But they're hard to come by.
17:17.31Traetrexxen, have you ever played on a PvP realm to 70 yet?
17:17.46Traerayford, yeah but you guys have clues... and a lot of pugs don't.
17:17.49trexxenno i on the underbog realm
17:17.57trexxenam one but only level 23
17:17.57MalgayneFair, Trae
17:17.59Traetrexxen, pvp is a whole different ballgame
17:18.03trexxeni know
17:18.18Traetrexxen, if youw ant to BG aand stuff I don't see why youy don't roll on pvp realm
17:18.35trexxeni have underbog is a pvp realm
17:18.39TraeMalgayne, blah I could be totally wrong though.. I've not played my priest in 6 months
17:18.45Traetrexxen, ahhh ok
17:18.56Traetrexxen, I started on pve...
17:18.57trexxenthe thing about shadow preist they caN USE POTIONS UIN SHADOW FORM LOL
17:19.00Traeand well am glad I did
17:19.02Traebut...
17:19.24Traetrexxen, I've played lock, hunter and shadowpriest.
17:19.43Traetrexxen, of those, if you want raw pve pwnage and good pvp abilities, Hunter can't be beat.
17:19.50trexxenat higher level does the lock dot spell do ok damage
17:19.57Traethe only reason hunter isn't nerfed is cause hunters aren't overpowered in pvp
17:20.03Traeerrr in BG
17:20.14Traetrexxen, locks kick ass in DPS
17:20.30Traetrexxen, but..... clothie or mail. :)
17:20.33trexxenseems to me like they may nerf lock one day
17:20.49Traeeverything is subject to nerfage
17:20.51Traemeh
17:20.55rayfordTrae:  You know that Locks can get up to 9 or 10k health, as well as like 8k armor.  Thats a crapload more than any Hunter.
17:21.04Traerayford, yah
17:21.10Traerayford, squishies
17:21.12Trae:)
17:21.18trexxenthey can?
17:21.20rayfordSo making the clothie to mail comparison doesn't really apply.  : P
17:21.21rayfordYup.
17:21.41trexxenhow is rogue are they nice
17:21.43Traerayford, blah... it just sounds cool
17:21.57Traetrexxen, you could go Fury Warrior..  rogue in plate[tm]
17:22.06rayfordRogues are PvP gods in the early brackets.
17:22.15trexxenat level 70
17:22.24trexxenwhich ever i pick i will keep it
17:22.32Traebut meh.... I'll defer pvp questions to othe rpeople as I'm pvp nub
17:22.48Traebut if you want raw PvE DPS and ability to nuke the crap out of stuff......   Hunter is the way to go.
17:23.03trexxenbm or mm for hunter
17:23.04Traenothing can out nuke what a hunter can in PvE
17:23.07TraeBM baby
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17:23.09TraeBM ftw
17:23.22Traetrexxen, I can get you a kick ass spec
17:23.25Traeif you'd like
17:23.39trexxenfor what hunter?
17:24.02TecnoBratad sales meetings = teh sux
17:24.31trexxensure
17:25.21Traehttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=cVbGzgxRiuVoVxbZco
17:25.27Traekick ass BM pvp spec
17:25.40Traenow
17:25.48Traeyou'll want to wait on that Focused fire until L66
17:25.53Traecause that's when you get kill command
17:26.12Traeor at least until you get beast within
17:26.20Traethen you can backfill those before marching off to other trees
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17:26.56Traetrexxen, and of course you'll want to make sure you have a cat, ravager, or raptor
17:27.08Traetrexxen, cat is best DPS IMHO.
17:27.33Traetrexxen, and we've experimented with Bite/Claw  and found out it's best to have both claw and bite on  your cat
17:27.36Traeprowl not needed.
17:27.47Traebut might be fun
17:28.25trexxenok so cat is better then a board for a pet
17:28.34Traetrexxen, yessir
17:28.44trexxenok
17:28.48Traetrexxen, http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/
17:28.55Traebest damned pet site for WoW out there
17:30.25Traethis is my kitty:
17:30.28Traehttp://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/articles/resources/gallery_ghostsaber.shtml
17:30.37Traesure everyone gets one... but.... they are so damned cool
17:31.40Traeactually you'll only see people "with a clue" getting those cats.
17:31.50Traeand if you are Horde you won't see many horde hunters with it.
17:32.36trexxeni am going to be horde lol
17:32.46TraeHorde ftw
17:33.14trexxenorc best race for a bm hunter right
17:33.23Traeyah
17:33.27trexxeni figured
17:33.27TraeBloodfury
17:33.33Traepet damage increased
17:33.34rayfordPshaw.  I've got http://petopia.brashendeavors.net/html/mobs/mob_humarthepridelord.shtml on my Hunter.
17:33.45Traerayford, nod he's awesome
17:33.56Traerayford, ghost kitty ftw!
17:33.58Traelol
17:34.15trexxenwhat u know about rogues
17:34.30Traetrexxen, no matter what pet you get... you need to think about the rare ones at lower levels.  training pets that are lower when you are higher level SUCKS
17:34.35Traetrexxen, that they suck
17:34.37Traetrexxen, lol
17:34.42Traetrexxen, I have a 29 rogue I just abandoned
17:34.46Traeand went back to my hunter
17:35.00Traeand mines twinked out fairly well
17:35.09Traeand I was lucky to be able to nuke yellows without dying
17:35.20Traeproblem is... I've had a 70 hunter before
17:35.22Traesooo
17:35.27TraeI know how easy it is to kill things
17:35.33TraeHad I went from my Shadowpriest to a rogue
17:35.38TraeI probably would have been ok
17:35.44trexxeni see
17:35.58TecnoBratSkosiris, connection issues?
17:36.17Traebut...   just being able to nuke mobs of 7 or 8 dudes at once.... (yellow)  is just too easy of a thing to do.
17:36.21trexxendoes fear kick ur but or is there ways to break it with out the undead woF racial spell
17:36.36rayfordPvP trinket.
17:36.50Traetrexxen, meh... pet on defensive and intimidation stuns their arse.
17:36.51Traeplus
17:36.52Traewith tracking
17:36.55Traeyou see THEM coming
17:37.14trexxenoh
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17:37.34trexxeni think i will like hunter over my lock
17:37.36TraeBM hunters aren't great in PvP... but they aren't bad either.
17:37.42Traetrexxen, now... locks are cool too
17:37.52Traetrexxen, and locks have a hunter feel
17:38.04trexxeni get tired of dot fear run run run dot fear run run
17:38.10Traetrexxen, hehe
17:38.16trexxenit gets old
17:38.23Traeyeah....  and pets don't hold aggro for poop
17:38.43trexxenlock minions do ok
17:38.46Traetrexxen, this may sound odd... but.
17:38.52Traetrexxen, don't over twink your hunter if you do roll one
17:39.01trexxenwhat u mean over twink
17:39.04Traetrexxen, I had L11-L17 gear on my L36 hunter
17:39.06Traeheh
17:39.07Traedon't laugh
17:39.12Traeand I never lost aggro
17:39.14Traefrom my pet
17:39.16TraeAND
17:39.25TraeI could nuke 5 - 6 levels higher without a problem
17:39.33Trae(AH'ed all my stuff and saved for mount)
17:39.40trexxenwhat best profession for a hunter
17:39.52Traetrexxen, depends if it's a new server maybe skin/LW?
17:40.01MalgayneDoes anyone remember that bash quote where someone says "if you put a line break after every few words, it makes it sound like you have asthma"
17:40.01TraeI go herb/skin
17:40.03Traebut that's just me
17:40.11trexxenunderbog not new or old
17:40.12TraeMalgayne, sorry
17:40.13Malgayne:P
17:40.31TraeMalgayne, :P
17:40.39trexxeni want to best to benifit me i am not worried about gold right now
17:40.48Traetrexxen, well
17:40.51Traetrexxen, the problem can be that
17:40.56Traetrexxen, if you get too good of gear
17:41.01Traetrexxen, you'll pull aggro off pet
17:41.05Traetrexxen, you want to let your pet do the work
17:41.08trexxenoh really?
17:41.17Traetrexxen, if you are going Melee... then you aren't playing your hunter right.
17:41.31Traetrexxen, you should never be in melee range with your hunter.
17:41.37trexxentrue\
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17:42.18trexxeni wonder if at levfel 70 if a rogue is powerful
17:42.22evilgeekgrlsomeone punch my coworker for me
17:42.26evilgeekgrlhe is slurping tea
17:42.27trexxeni know low brackets they are GODS
17:42.29rayford*Punches*
17:42.30MalgayneWhat's wrong, Geek?
17:42.50Traetrexxen, yeah.... rogues are insane and you get vanish so you can flee fights you don't want to engage in.... but.
17:42.53evilgeekgrli need to record this or something lol
17:42.56Traetrexxen, you gotta level first :)
17:43.25Traetrexxen, anyhoo... that's my Hunter 101 class :)  you probably knew most of it, but I hope it helped some.
17:43.48trexxeni know but i can level any class it just will take time
17:43.58trexxenthanks the hunter 101 class was helpful
17:44.01Traemy char on Maevie server is Dismantle
17:44.08TraeL41 orc hunter
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17:44.21trexxenis dismantle a pvp realm
17:44.29TraeDismantle is the name of my char
17:44.30Trae;)
17:44.39TraeMaeiv is the server (it's pvp)
17:44.45Traemy first PVP server
17:44.57trexxencool
17:45.06TraeMy hunter 67 (Sinnersaint) - one bubble to 68  lol  is on Doomhammer.
17:45.11Traebut I wouldn't go by his spec
17:45.28trexxenjust hard for me i think hunters are cool, and stuff but rogue play more like my personality, but like hunters also lol
17:45.39Traetrexxen, dude roll what you want.
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17:45.45Traetrexxen, rogues are way cool
17:45.50trexxeni know
17:46.01trexxenjust trying to learn about all of them to decide
17:46.05Traetrexxen, but.. this one bit I know about rogues.  it's all about your weapons.  You HAVE to have kick ass weapons and gear to levle.
17:46.23Traetrexxen, soo.... if you wanna buy killer gear and junk to help you level, then that's a good way to spend it.
17:46.26trexxenrogues are all about crits
17:46.36Traebut I'll defer rogue talk to someone else
17:46.40Traecause I don't jack about them
17:46.55MalgayneI'm such a pve guy I can't help much, really
17:47.07MalgayneI wish I could get some of my friends on Gorgonnash in here
17:47.11trexxeni tried mage and lock and really do not like them
17:47.15trexxeni also tried shamana
17:47.25Traetrexxen, until you hit 70  you gotta stick with something
17:47.29Traetrexxen, even if you don't like it :)
17:47.40TecnoBratyes, rogues and warriors are EXTREMELY weapon dependent
17:47.53TecnoBratyou will just get owned if you don't have good weapons
17:47.59Traetrexxen, that's the cool thing about a hunter is, you WILL level it quickly.  And you can always keep it as a farming char once you hit 70.  (to farm for mats)
17:48.41TraeTecnoBrat, nod I owned @L20-L22 then it went downhill as my weapons started to suck.
17:48.49Trae2 hit kills etc
17:49.23Trae@29 with great gear I still could barely nuke a 2 level lower yellow
17:49.39Traemeh
17:49.41Traerogues are work
17:49.42Traeheh
17:49.48Traeso are most classes,.
17:49.53TheOnyx*all classes
17:49.53MalgayneMy brother has a 50 rogue
17:49.58MalgayneHere, let me link
17:49.58trexxeni bet it hard to level a priest
17:50.02TraeTheOnyx, Hunter = WoW on easy mode.
17:50.04TheOnyxIt's really play style that makes them fun.
17:50.20Traetrexxen, Leveling a priest Shadow isn't too bad.
17:50.24TheOnyxTrae: Only because the play style is easy to get in to
17:50.26MalgayneOh hey, he dinged 51
17:50.30Malgaynehttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Sabrielle
17:50.40trexxenoh
17:50.46rayfordExactly.  Honestly, you can't take the advice of any one single person.  If all comes down to seeing what sounds interesting to you, and then tweaking with specs so that YOU'RE happy and YOU'RE enjoying playing.
17:50.46TheOnyxTrae: All classes can be WoW on Easy Mode if you fit in with the play style.
17:50.56MalgayneVery true Onyx
17:50.59rayford*If = it
17:51.11trexxentrue
17:51.21MalgayneThe crazy thing about Sabrielle is that she can sustain like 250 dps indefinitely on mobs like 2 levels higher than her
17:51.25trexxenanyone here know much about rogues
17:51.41TraeTheOnyx, my point is. that with a little guidance anyone can own stuff on a hunter, where as, it is an artform to play a rogue....
17:51.44MalgayneThat was back when she was combat specced, haven't run with her since she respecced assassination
17:52.05rayfordI play an Enhancement Shammy, and as Mal will tell you, I complain and whine all the time.  But I enjoy it.  I can buff my group, and do the same amount of DPS as pretty much any class out there.
17:52.18MalgayneMaybe true, Trae, but if the art of assassination is what comes naturally to you...
17:52.22Malgayne:)
17:52.32TraeTheOnyx, I've had some L70 rogues trying to help me out and even they said that rogues aare hard to level... and that was with high level gear.
17:52.43TraeMalgayne, heh.. I was going ass/combat (lol)
17:52.50TheOnyxrayford: I loved my Enhancement Shammy for everything except PvP. Even in PvP he is ok, but he is pretty much rogue-bait.
17:52.54MalgayneYou know what I mean.  :)
17:53.45rayfordTheOnyx:  Aye.  I try to stay away from PvP on my Shammy.  I've got a 70 Feral Druid, and Warrior, and a BM Hunter that I can farm and PvP with.
17:53.47trexxeni just get raped by hunters and rogues with my lock
17:53.48TraeTheOnyx, but yeah... there is a learning curve to all classes... and seeing as how I've played 3 hunters, I guess I'm no longer a casual hunter player :)
17:54.02TheOnyxTrae: I would concur.
17:54.03TheOnyx:)
17:54.16MalgaynePoor Sko
17:54.18trexxenhow is feral druid
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17:54.32TheOnyxrayford: My mage and warlock will end up being my PvP-heavy characters.
17:54.32TraeTheOnyx, the difference is... I can give someone advice on how to own as a BM speced hunter and how to get things set up so that they can easily kick but..... I don't think that's something you can do with say a rogue.
17:54.58MalgayneWell, in pve it is.  ;)
17:55.05MalgayneSS Spam FTW!
17:55.09TheOnyxTrae: Perhaps. I only ever played a rogue to 31, but I don't recall it ever bing that much of a pain.
17:55.09TraeMalgayne, lol
17:55.27zushibaOh, I'm still connected.
17:55.49trexxenis feral druid nice in pvp
17:55.53MalgayneHi zushiba.  :)
17:55.56TraeTheOnyx, my problem is.. as I've said before I'm just tainted knowing that a hunte rcan easily nuke things up to 10 levels higher.  where as a rogue, I have work killing an orange, and most times, I failed.
17:55.59rayfordTrexxen:  Feral Druids are a blast.  But not in the early levels.  Grinding to 10 is a pain.  Then you get Bear Form, which makes it a bit easier.  But once you get Cat Form, then you're golden.
17:56.00zushibaGood morning Malgayne.
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17:56.15TraeTheOnyx, anyhoo... as I've stated I'm a nub rogue, soo... there's that
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17:56.27MalgayneI dunno, for mob killing I'm a fan of the protection paladin aoe grinding technique
17:56.30TheOnyxTrae: Yeah... I remember that with my hunter too. I took on like-level elites by myself. :)
17:56.32trexxenhow does cat form compare to rogue
17:56.37trexxenas far as dps
17:56.42zushibapve or pvp?
17:56.47trexxenpvp
17:56.51rayfordAs you get higher and start to build up tanking gear, then you get to be godly.  I can toss my tanking gear on, and kill a half dozen mobs, easy.
17:56.53zushibapvp it's comparable.
17:56.54TraeTheOnyx, nod... did all the STV group quests solo on my hunter.
17:56.57zushibapve a rogue will win.
17:57.02TheOnyxtrexxen: About the same as any class with a druid...passable, but not awesome.
17:57.04zushibadepending on gear obviously.
17:57.06TraeTheOnyx, when they were orange and red :)
17:57.11zushibaDruids are amazing with poopy gear.
17:57.22rayfordZushiba:  Not quite.  My Feral Druid can typically keep up with most Rogues unless they far outgear me.
17:57.28TraeI do however, REALLY want a Feral Drood
17:57.56Traefree flying form @68  yum.
17:57.57trexxenwhat all skills do u have in cat form to use
17:58.08zushibarayford, I can't speak for every guild but we have alot of feral druids in mine and none of them out damage the rogues.
17:58.17zushibanow, most of them are tanks...
17:58.25zushibanone of them DPS 100% of the time so it's hard to say.
17:58.38TraeI've seen some kick ass tankage from druids before
17:58.50Traestuff that just makes you go... zomg!
17:58.51Traelol
17:58.53zushibaour MT is a druid he rocks.
17:58.54trexxenso cat form does alot of dps
17:59.23zushibaquite a bit but it doesn't scale as well as a rogues dps.
17:59.25trexxenas far as pvp and bg
17:59.31Traetrexxen, I'll defer druid questions to others... but my expierence is L20 cat is underpowered.  @20 you'll get cat form but want to stay bear
17:59.38zushibayes burst damage is easily on par with a rogue in pvp
18:00.12Traeit could very well be that I'm playing melee classes 100% wrong
18:00.15trexxenlike what all skills do u use is cat form are they alot like the rogue skills
18:00.22Traesince I'm used to casters (Shadowprist, Hunter)
18:00.39rayfordSorta.  Cats use a lot of bleed damage DoTs.
18:01.18zushibaI've been ravaged for 3k+ you wont see a rogue hitting that high in pvp unless theres some sort of malfunction.
18:01.23trexxenok in pvp is it worth ur time to change from cat form to caster and heal and go back to cat form
18:01.42zushibafrom my experience, vs every druid I fight.
18:01.45rayfordI've used a finishing move that critted for 4200 damage in Cat Form.
18:01.50zushibaas soon as he has to pop into caster form, he's finished.
18:01.53Traerayford, wow
18:02.10Traerayford, my SP only got like 2800 MB crits
18:02.18trexxendoes druids get alot of health
18:02.22trexxenor like mage low health
18:02.29MalgayneBear from druids have more health than any other class in the game
18:02.31Traetrexxen, tauren start with increased health
18:02.33MalgayneBy a lot
18:02.44trexxeni kmena cat form
18:02.45zushibaTauren Druid health is hax.
18:02.47trexxenmean
18:02.51Traezushiba, hahhaa
18:03.25Traehttp://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t319/Kristian_Maria/youarebeingmonitored.jpg
18:03.27Traelol
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18:04.29trexxenso druid are good for dps healing and tank
18:04.38trexxenwhat do most people want them for in groups
18:04.51rayfordTanking or DPS.
18:04.53zushibaHots
18:04.58Traetrexxen, Feral, they want Tank, OT or DPS
18:05.06MalgayneTanking is most common, just because a feral specced druid can also solo things
18:05.11MalgayneWhile a protection warrior doesn't do as well
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18:05.36TraeMalgayne, I want a drood :(
18:05.38Traeheh
18:05.41zushibain my guild we have 2 feral druids, one dpses most of the time but is there mostly to buff the rogues :P
18:05.56Traezushiba, oomkin?
18:06.00Traeoh
18:06.01zushibanone
18:06.03Trae2 feral
18:06.14zushibahe's usually offtanking.
18:06.19TraeI love that term: "oomkin"
18:06.35rayfordIn our guild, one of our Feral Druids, in Bear Form, has around 18k armor, and 16k health.
18:06.45zushibaOur dps party usually consists of warr, rog, rog, rog, shaman. Sometimes when we are short a rogue we put the ot druid in there.
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18:06.55Traeok time for work
18:06.56Traebbl
18:07.27Malgayneby the way
18:07.29Malgaynehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcbazH6aE2g
18:08.42TheOnyxMalgayne: Yeah, I saw that on Wowhead yesterday... it's pretty funny
18:08.51zushibaI played that in vent during SSC last night.
18:08.55MalgayneHaha
18:09.13trexxenis cat form stealth like rogues shealth
18:09.25trexxenand do cat form have anything like sprint
18:09.30zushibaSpeaking of silly videos, has anyone seen the latest and greatest in the 'now' long line of great Male Night Elf weapon blunders?
18:09.32zushibahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i1MXLv-LgY
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18:09.58zushibaDruids can stealth better than rogues and have a version of sprint, dash.
18:10.18zushibaby better I mean, muuuuuch faster.
18:10.20trexxenthey can shealth better how?
18:10.34Malgaynezushiba that's wonderful
18:10.35trexxenoh
18:10.55trexxenso druids cat form in pvp does about the burst damage as a rogue
18:11.07trexxendoes cat form have skills u just have to use behind the target
18:11.21Sky2042_lolatkicking the puppy
18:11.23MalgayneACtually Trexxen
18:11.30Sky2042_best part of the movie
18:11.34zushibaIsn't it though, I have some amazing pics as well.
18:11.35zushibahttp://www.hitpoints.org/screenshots/mainhand_broken.jpg
18:11.49zushibawith an offhand dagger it actually looks kind of cool
18:11.50zushibahttp://www.hitpoints.org/screenshots/notsobad.jpg
18:11.50Malgaynetrexxen, check this out: http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=7.11.134
18:11.51trexxenwhat malgayne
18:12.52Paradoxis there any way to filter alchemy recipes, by "obtained by discovery"?
18:13.01Sky2042_kicking the puppy was definitely the best part
18:14.48trexxenwhat  best professions fotr a feral druid
18:15.14MalgayneSky, I really liked the moment where he tells the woman he's not goign to kill her baby, and then flicks the baby over his shoulder without looking
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18:16.02rayfordTrexxen:  Skinning/LW is definately a good one.  But so are herbs/alch.
18:16.03trexxeni think i may like druid i could change form to adapet to what class i am fighting
18:16.19rayfordMal:  You guys are talking about the LFG video, aren't ya?
18:16.25trexxenu cant use potion is animal forms can u
18:16.26Malgayneyup.  :)
18:16.48trexxenor can u
18:17.04rayfordTrexxen:  No, but alch isn't all about pots.  Its about buffs.  You can increase your stamina, AP, strength, agility, all kinds of stuff with pots.  Drink then before you shift forms.
18:17.16trexxenoh
18:17.41rayfordI use my alch to make armor and stamina pots for my Warrior.
18:17.56rayfordHaving a little bit more armor and HP can help quite a bit.
18:17.59trexxenso alch would benifit a druid nicely
18:18.06zushibatrexxen, I would suggest you create 1 of each class and level them to 20
18:18.10rayfordAlch benefits everyone nicely.  : P
18:18.15TecnoBratalch ....
18:18.18TecnoBratdammit rayford!
18:18.18trexxenui have every class but druid and rogue
18:18.18zushibaby 20 you should have a good idea as to which one you want to play
18:18.20TecnoBratyou beat me to it
18:18.22MalgayneRay, does bear form increase the armor you get from potions too, or just from items?
18:18.31TecnoBratMalgayne, just items
18:18.38TecnoBratenchants dont count either
18:18.41MalgayneAh well
18:18.43TecnoBrator devo aura, etc
18:19.21zushibawell, it's lunch time.
18:19.25zushibabrb
18:19.31rayfordTechnoBrat:  Mwahahaha!  : P
18:19.43trexxenok well thansk for the help
18:19.49MalgayneSure
18:19.54rayfordNo worries.  Enjoy whatever you decide to roll.  : P
18:20.01trexxennot sure if i want a druid or a rogue know i know not hunter
18:20.10trexxennow
18:21.14trexxenone last question
18:21.31trexxenis druids as weapon and equipment depended as rogues
18:21.39rayfordKinda sorta.
18:22.02rayfordWhatever you do, if you roll a Druid, don't get a weapon that has a proc effect.  Weapon procs don't work in animal forms.
18:22.14rayfordSo, for instance, don't get a Fiery enchant.  It'll be useless for you.
18:22.46[dRaCo]35 agi is the best you can get as a druid
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18:23.01trexxeni heard a rogue with good equpiment but a sorry weapon suck is that true with druids
18:23.04rayfordEspecially if you tank on your Druid.
18:23.38[dRaCo]druids arent as weapon dependend as "normal" melees
18:23.53[dRaCo]their damage just scales with stats, not with weapon dmg
18:24.14MalgayneThe thing with druids
18:24.20MalgayneWhen they're in cat or bear form
18:24.38trexxenwould the buff from alch that raise stats traqnfer into animal form
18:24.42MalgayneYes
18:25.04MalgayneBut the thing is that a "cat form" druid doesn't not actually attack people with his weapon
18:25.20trexxenso would would be the main stats to make a high damage cat form druid
18:25.33[dRaCo]str + agi
18:25.42rayfordAttack power, too, later on.
18:25.46[dRaCo]ap + crit are ok, too, but str and agi are better
18:26.02trexxenthink it a good idea for me to try to make a cat form druid into a rogue, so i have more option if i want it
18:26.12trexxenor do yall understand what i am saying
18:26.15[dRaCo]well, and at 70 you need 5% hit
18:26.37MalgayneFor the purposes of attacking, a druid fights with claws, not his weapon
18:26.52MalgayneMeaning that the dps of the weapon has no effect on his damage whatsoever
18:27.01trexxencool
18:27.12rayfordOy, thats right.  Druids have a 2:1 str:AP conversion.  So go for str rather than AP.  Sorry.  : P
18:27.24Sky2042afkok, here's an irony
18:27.26Sky2042afkfeatured article on wikipedia is encyclopedia britannica
18:27.27trexxenso with that being said i think a feral druid could out dps a rogue if the rogue does not have the best of equuipment
18:27.33MalgayneSo a 40dps weapon with +5 str is better than a 60dps weapon
18:27.45Malgaynelol
18:27.48MalgayneThat's awesome Sky
18:27.48rayfordTrexxen, also, the attack speed of animal forms is set, and not dependant on your weapon.
18:28.09trexxendo u knwo what it is set to
18:28.22Malgayne2.0
18:28.26rayfordBear Form has a set attack speed of 2.0, and Cat Form is 1.0, if I remember right.
18:28.29MalgayneOh
18:28.32MalgayneCould be, sorry
18:28.41trexxenoh so like a fast dagger
18:28.43[dRaCo]I'd go with ray's version.
18:28.44trexxenin cat form
18:29.20rayfordTrexxen:  Exactly.  So if you get a sweet mace or staff that you'll use, don't worry about it affecting your attack speed.
18:29.47trexxencool
18:30.00trexxendo u know the average atttack speed on a dagfewr
18:30.03trexxendagger
18:30.28rayfordDaggers?  Between 1.6 and 1.8, in my experience.  But I'm a Shammy, I tend to ignore daggers.  : P
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18:30.37[dRaCo]fastest available is 1.3, slowest 1.8
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18:30.58trexxenso cat form is faster nice and about the same burst dps roight
18:30.58rayfordThere we go.
18:31.41trexxennice thank yall so much
18:31.48trexxenwaht best race for a druid tauren?
18:32.06[dRaCo]if you wanna roll horde, you gotta choose tauren
18:32.09rayfordOnly two races can be Druids.
18:32.14rayfordNight Elves or Tauren.
18:32.20trexxenoh tauren then lol
18:32.59trexxenok in yall opion yall think a well played druid would be bettter in pvp and bg then a well played rogue
18:33.19rayfordCould go either way.
18:33.47Sky2042afkrogues will get the dps itemization, but druids will get the healing itemization, much easier
18:33.59[dRaCo]druids got better stealth, rogues got more stun, druids can heal, ...
18:34.45MalgayneI'm still confused about how druid stealth is better
18:34.51trexxenok if i go rogue is alch/herb or lw/skinning best profession
18:35.02rayfordNot quite sure.  But I've stealthed through stuff on Bit that Rogue's can't seem to get past.
18:35.49MalgaynePublic warning for all: http://hackademix.net/2007/08/07/java-evil-popups
18:35.50rayfordMaybe their stealth level is higher.
18:35.58[dRaCo]trexxen: depends on your guild and if you wanna pvp or raid
18:36.21TheOnyxrayford: Yeah, I would say they probably had +stealth gear etc
18:36.38TheOnyxrayford: I'd be surprised if druid stealth was meant to be better than rogue stealth
18:37.28rayfordTheOnyx:  Nope.  My Druid doesn't have +stealth gear.
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18:37.42TheOnyxCurious.
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18:38.10rayfordAh.  Feral Instinct.  Tier 2 talent in the Feral tree.  That, maybe?
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18:39.07rayfordYa catch that, TheOnyx?
18:39.14TheOnyxrayford: Feral Instinct
18:39.24TheOnyx?
18:39.57rayfordTheOnyx:  Yeah.  Decreases the chance enemies have to detect you.
18:40.00TheOnyxrayford: that would do it :)
18:40.13TheOnyxrayford: if the rogue hadn't taken their +stealth talent, you'd be better
18:41.33rayfordI am better!  : P
18:41.49MalgayneAlliance druids will beat you both though.  :)
18:42.21rayfordCuz there's so many of them?
18:42.22evilgeekgrlsome lvl 70 rogue just asked me where the "IF bridge" is
18:42.41evilgeekgrlif you play ally how do you not know at lvl 70 what bridge im talking about..
18:42.45MalgayneBecause Shadowmeld lends a tiny bonus to stealth
18:42.50TheOnyxrayford: NE get a + to stealth
18:43.08rayfordOh yeah.  Confounded NE's.
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18:43.30trexxencool
18:43.33trexxeni want to pvp
18:43.41trexxenall about pvp
18:44.44rayfordIf you wanna PvP, then I might suggest just leveling a Warlock.  They're pretty crazy in PvP, though I couldn't suggest a good build.
18:44.52TheOnyxDemonology
18:45.03rayfordThere we go.  ; P
18:45.10[dRaCo]soul link + affliction
18:45.18evilgeekgrlyes demon
18:45.23evilgeekgrlits retarded op
18:45.29brattaPvP and affliction go well.  instant howl of terror = love
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18:47.19trexxeni have a lock but rally do not like it
18:47.26trexxenit like hunter boring to me
18:47.50trexxenas a lock u dot dot dot fear run run fear run run fear dot dot fear run run that all u do
18:48.00MalgayneYup
18:48.02brattaheh that's why I like it :)
18:48.09MalgayneHunter you pet attack + autoshot
18:48.09trexxenbut boring
18:48.20MalgayneRogue = SS over and over again
18:48.22trexxeni want something to have fun with
18:48.27trexxenss?
18:48.46Malgaynesinister strike
18:49.05rayfordRoll an Enhancement Shammy!  :D
18:49.15trexxeni think i may like druid
18:49.25trexxeni do not know crap about shammy
18:49.35Malgayneshammy = autoattack and shock
18:50.00trexxensince u have one for every classs what is druid lol
18:50.01rayfordhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Draenor&n=Rayford  <----Thats me.  Any questions you may have, I am happy to answer.  ( :
18:50.43TheOnyxEnhacement Shammys are pretty uber, but I think my mage or warlock will prove to be the most fun for me.
18:51.13trexxeni loved my mage but was weak weak weak
18:51.35rayfordHow high did you get your Mage?
18:51.42trexxento level 35
18:52.16rayfordTrexxen:  Feral Druids = lawlbearfourm!  OOMkin Druids = owlzlawl!  And Resto Druids = whowanzheelz?!  : P
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18:53.04brattaNot to mention their ability to tank 5 gorillas!
18:53.10trexxenlol
18:53.32trexxendruids seems cool to me i may have to try one
18:54.06trexxenjusat wonder if the dps in cat form is awsome or if the stun lock a rogue can do is for more worth in it pvp
18:54.18brattaI've heard that if you can get a druid to cat form you will not turn back.  before that it is not much fun
18:55.09trexxento level 20 want take long like 2 or 3 days probally
18:55.21TheOnyxIf I ever rolled a druid it would definitely be feral spec'd
18:55.31trexxenthat what i want to do
18:55.55trexxendoes bear form do much damage
18:56.12rayfordLater on it can do pretty well, yeah.
18:56.24TheOnyx...but it's not what you'd do for DPS
18:56.34brattayeah bear form is more for tanking, cat is for dps
18:56.35trexxenin cat form can u escape battle like u can with a rogue
18:56.36rayfordExactly.
18:56.40MalgayneGo roll one and see.  :)
18:56.59rayfordNo, you can't.  You've gotta pop Dash and run for your life.  Or shift into Cheetah form and run your tail off.  : P
18:57.04TheOnyxI've rolled every class once and played it until mid 20s, just to see.
18:57.30trexxenok chetta form do u get stun if hit in it
18:57.47TheOnyxtrexxen: No, it's not like Aspect of the Cheetah
18:58.05trexxenoh
19:00.29trexxenok thanks for the help all
19:00.33trexxeni have to run to work
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19:03.17zushibaHe sure had alot of questions.
19:03.59rayfordAye.
19:04.30[dRaCo]and his english was horrible.
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19:05.12evilgeekgrllol
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19:06.29Sky2042jebus, wanna kill my internet
19:07.00rayfordAnd just for the record, I'd think that a Lock would be better for what he was after.  But I couldn't get a word in with Trae goin on and on about BM Hunters.  : P
19:08.33rayfordBut thats just my take on it.
19:09.25Sky2042http://wowwiki.com/Alamo
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19:13.50brattalol@sky... I hadn't seen that before.
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19:14.09Sky2042o_0
19:14.22Sky2042it was a sticky in the druid forums until the new forums started
19:14.38rayfordHahaha.  This is awesome.
19:16.45rayfordhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v387/rainbow_dragon/Warcraft/eathed.jpg  XD
19:17.54hiawanibare is haev many armors
19:17.57hiawani:X
19:21.19rayfordThis man is my new hero.
19:22.12TheOnyx1) OK now sum durid is cat 2) Cat durid, tehm dosent heel. 3) Cat uis for fite 4) Cat durid dosent talk about fite
19:22.28TheOnyx5) when cat durid is FITE do not ask for HEEL and NINIRVATE!
19:22.36TheOnyxand CAT DURIDS is no spam moonfare! Sum cat durids dosent no wut is uh moonfare!
19:22.40zushibai am soooooooooooo bored
19:22.51TheOnyxrayford: There's your next article.
19:22.54zushibaI wanna work on something but am out of ideas.
19:23.33rayfordTheOnyx:  You're right.  I'm posting this on wowhead.  And on my guild forums.  XP
19:23.40TheOnyxhaha
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19:31.12rayfordYeah.  Thats totally going on my guild forums.
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19:35.58mal-meetingYou should do a search for "SUM DRIUDZ IZ BARE"
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19:38.55TheOnyxIt is a pretty solid document.
19:40.14skizmwho might i be able to talk to about licensing any part of wowhead's interface
19:40.25MalgayneSkosiris and I can help you with that
19:40.26MalgaynePM?
19:40.29skizmsure
19:42.29hiawaniMalgayne: when you're done with that, can I ask you a question? :)
19:42.44MalgayneYou can ask me a question now, that's the joy of IRC.  :)
19:43.03[dRaCo]woah, multitasking
19:43.24TheOnyxIt's the future!
19:47.32evilgeekgrlno its now not the future!
19:48.04hiawaniwhoops, didn't realize I can't pm
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19:48.24evilgeekgrlyou have to register yourself lol
19:48.31evilgeekgrli guess its to avoid spamming
19:48.38hiawaniyeah I'm trying to find out how now :X
19:48.44hiawanigo go google
19:48.53evilgeekgrli think i read it on the freenode.net website
19:48.55evilgeekgrlunder the FAQ
19:49.24DaxHi all, any one here playing on Athor?
19:49.54MalgayneHia, it's just "/ns register <password>"
19:49.56hiawaniyeah it's there, thank you
19:50.02MalgayneThen "/ns identify <password>
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19:50.25Sky2042try /ns id password
19:50.26Sky2042;P
19:51.47Dass:D
19:53.00Traerayford|foods, :P
19:53.20DassMy guild need some new members :D
19:53.32Malgayne<PROTECTED>
19:54.08DassI wish
19:54.34evilgeekgrllol recruiting on irc
19:54.35evilgeekgrl:P
19:54.52MalgayneWell, we need the people
19:54.52evilgeekgrlbesides just because we are on irc doesnt mean we are any good
19:54.56evilgeekgrlwe could be terrible
19:55.04MalgayneYeah, but you're in IRC on the Wowhead channel
19:55.16evilgeekgrlso?
19:55.17Dassrecruiting is good :D
19:56.34TheOnyxSUM GUILDZ IS RECROOTIN ON TEH IRC
19:56.35brattaLol, it shows that for some of us, we are so addicted we have to talk about the game while at work
19:56.58TheOnyxTHIS IS UBAR BECUZ IT USES TEH TECHNOLGOIES
19:57.04MalgayneAnybody who visits a database site is smart enough to be paying attention
19:57.12MalgayneAnd anyone who visits Wowhead instead of Thottbot has some taste
19:57.17Malgayne:P
19:57.32brattatoo true!
19:58.01Kyothaithottbot is dead
19:58.19MalgayneThottbot still gets more pageviews than we do.  :(
19:58.38hiawanithey shouldn't
19:58.45MalgayneWe are in agreement
19:58.46brattaI wouldn't say its dead, its just that there are better sites out there.  (Is that enough brown nosing yet?)
19:58.48Kyothaii mean theres rarely anything useful to be found there
19:58.52MalgayneBut nonetheless
19:59.27skizmi've found that each site has certain functions that i need from time to time, but it pains me when i have to use either of the other ones instead of wowhead for any reason :/
19:59.42MalgayneWell, they've both improved greatly in recent months
19:59.45MalgayneBut still not enough
19:59.49DassBut I am not realy recruiting :P
20:00.24TraeMalgayne, where does one search for: SUM DRIUDZ IZ BARE
20:00.25Traeheh
20:00.40Malgaynehttp://wowwiki.com/Alamo
20:00.46Sky2042lol
20:01.30Traehaha
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20:03.33Trae5) when cat durid is FITE do not ask for HEEL and NINIRVATE!
20:03.35Traebahwhahaha
20:03.53Traelawls
20:04.04evilgeekgrli cant spell alakazammamannan so i never used that one
20:04.32skizmit's the worst site of all of them, by quite a large margin
20:04.42skizmmainly because it wasn't actually made for wow
20:04.46Sky2042and that's why wowhead's passed it
20:04.48Sky2042;p
20:04.53skizmalthough i guess thottbot wasn't either
20:04.53evilgeekgrli went there once, i couldnt figure out what i was looking at
20:05.00evilgeekgrli was like wtf, thottbot it is
20:05.09Sky2042btw, evilgeekgrl, a/l? :P
20:05.12hiawani<3 alamo
20:05.14brattauhg... allakhazam's interface and load times stink
20:05.18evilgeekgrla lot of info on thottbot is wrong so it annoys me
20:05.24TheOnyxplus they spam
20:05.25TheOnyxlike
20:05.28evilgeekgrltoo old and out of your reach :P
20:05.29TheOnyxNO THIS IS HUYNTAR WEPON
20:05.31Sky2042damn
20:05.31brattaBut I like the fact that they provide an xml feed for people to use
20:05.33skizmD:
20:05.34Sky2042touche
20:05.37TheOnyxNO IT IS 4 ROGUW
20:05.37skizmpwned
20:05.41TheOnyxNO U R DUMN
20:05.43TheOnyxNO U
20:05.45TheOnyxetc
20:05.45evilgeekgrlLOL
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20:06.07evilgeekgrlsometimes wowwiki makes me mad
20:06.10evilgeekgrlinfo in there is wrong
20:06.21evilgeekgrlim like who is the dumbass that put this here
20:06.21Sky2042fix it then silly
20:06.23TheOnyxWell, it is a wiki
20:06.26hiawanithat's the problem with wikis
20:06.26evilgeekgrli want to find them rl and hit them
20:06.26TheOnyxO_o
20:06.32TheOnyxhaha
20:06.32brattaIndeed, wikis are good like that
20:06.37TheOnyxevilgeekgrl has agression issues
20:06.39Sky2042you can fiiiiiiiiix it
20:06.41Sky2042not hard
20:06.43TheOnyxO_o
20:06.44evilgeekgrlbut there is tons and tons of good stuff there
20:06.45Sky2042register, and edit
20:06.58Sky2042if it's not right info make it right
20:07.03evilgeekgrli know how to fix it, but i spent 30 mins running around trying to find the person they said had something
20:07.07hiawaniforreals
20:07.21hiawaniyeah I hear you on that
20:07.24evilgeekgrli used to run a wiki for one of my old servers
20:07.25TheOnyxThe one thing that all 3 sites have in common is that none of their names make immediate sense it terms of origin
20:07.56evilgeekgrlyea wtf is thottbot?
20:08.01jmccaffreyThott's bot
20:08.09MalgayneYup
20:08.09Sky2042duh
20:08.16evilgeekgrl:P
20:08.20evilgeekgrl:(
20:08.24evilgeekgrl:'(
20:08.26TheOnyxThere's a thott?
20:08.36MalgayneIt was build by a man named Bill Dyess, who played a char named "Aftathott" in the original Everquest Uber-Guild
20:08.47TheOnyxI see.
20:08.54MalgayneLater shortened to "Thott"
20:09.05evilgeekgrlthen he sold it and made lots of money
20:09.11evilgeekgrlso now he stays home and plays wow all day?
20:09.15MalgayneActually, no
20:09.15TheOnyx:cha-ching:
20:09.23MalgayneHe made a few thousand dollar
20:09.24Malgaynes
20:09.27evilgeekgrlouch
20:09.40MalgayneBut he still runs the site
20:09.43evilgeekgrli was watching the discovery channel
20:09.47MalgayneAnd he gets a salary
20:09.52TecnoBratyea, Zam got away with a crazy deal there
20:09.56evilgeekgrllast night they had a how its made thing on paint rollers
20:10.00TheOnyxMan, that'd be the life.
20:10.01TecnoBrathe was dumb to sell it
20:10.16evilgeekgrlthe dude that invented those never made any money because he couldnt afford to hire a lawyer to defend his patent
20:10.33evilgeekgrlit made me sad
20:11.23TheOnyxI'd like to... seems like it'd be awesome.
20:11.30TraeVote for me for Prez and u all get free wow accounts
20:11.37Traeheh
20:11.41[dRaCo]yay!
20:11.43Traeit's wow-30
20:11.54evilgeekgrli have 2 accounts
20:11.55Traepeace out brothaz and sistaz
20:11.59evilgeekgrlcan i get free passes for both?
20:12.00Malgaynelater trae
20:12.26evilgeekgrlrayford: what kind of foods did you have? lol
20:12.47rayfordevilgeekgrl:  I had Chinese.  And their foods, too.
20:12.48TheOnyxNone anymore.
20:12.58TheOnyxHence the name change!
20:13.05rayfordChinese?  Not so good.  Their foods were good, though.
20:13.09evilgeekgrlo i like sweet and sour chicken
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20:13.17TheOnyxSesame seed chicken.
20:13.17TheOnyxnod
20:13.18evilgeekgrlmy boss took me to this place here
20:13.19brattaGet a good well-fed buff?
20:13.25evilgeekgrlthey had deep fried asparagus
20:13.38evilgeekgrli was like that is going to be nasty, then i tried it and it was very good
20:13.43TheOnyxEw.
20:13.50TheOnyxI don't like apsaragus.
20:13.59TheOnyxIt tastes like nothing.
20:14.03TheOnyxWet nothing.
20:14.06jmccaffreyIt has a taste
20:14.10rayfordI actually had sweet and sour pork, sans the sauce.
20:14.13jmccaffreyGood complement to red meat IMO
20:14.20evilgeekgrli love egg rolls
20:14.27evilgeekgrlanyone ever had jack in the box egg rolls?
20:14.31rayfordbratta:  Yeah.  I got +15 intellect, +10% energy regen, and +15 agility.
20:14.38brattawoot!
20:14.48TecnoBratMalgayne, I know you do
20:14.56TecnoBratdoesnt change the fact that zam got a hell of a deal on thott
20:14.57rayfordThe energy regen is 10% every 5 seconds.
20:15.08MalgayneOh of course
20:15.10MalgayneNo argument here
20:15.20evilgeekgrlNO ONE HAS EVER HAD JACK IN THE BOX EGG ROLLS?
20:15.22TecnoBrathe could of held out for a lot more
20:15.29MalgayneHe did, eventually
20:15.30TecnoBratthen again .. I dont know what his salary is
20:15.47TecnoBratsome people don't want to own a company, they in the end would rather be an employee
20:16.06TheOnyxYeah, maybe he thinks he got off great.
20:16.07rayfordevilgeekgrl:  Ma'am no ma'am!
20:16.12evilgeekgrllol
20:16.18TheOnyxNow someone pays him to maintain his own code.
20:16.21evilgeekgrlyou should try them for some reason i am addicted to those
20:16.23TheOnyxThat's pretty awesome.
20:16.27TecnoBratTheOnyx, exactly
20:16.35MalgayneAt the end of last year, right before TBC came out, Thott's original contract expired
20:16.42TecnoBratEG: Skosiris :P
20:16.50TheOnyxNow he doesn't have to worry about advertising, etc
20:17.01evilgeekgrlwhat?
20:17.12MalgayneAnd he renegotiated new terms, this time taking into account the massive amount of pageviews TB generates
20:17.22rayfordevilgeekgrl:  Since we're admitting strange addictions to fast food food, I'm addicted to McDonald's chicken nuggets.
20:17.25MalgayneSo as far as I understand he's doing pretty well
20:17.28TecnoBratMalgayne, thats good for him :)
20:17.33TecnoBratglad to hear that actually
20:17.36evilgeekgrlok that is weird rayford
20:17.43evilgeekgrloh but hi-C orange
20:17.48evilgeekgrlis a weakness for me
20:17.51MalgayneI'm a fast food addict
20:17.53MalgayneIt's really bad
20:17.57evilgeekgrlbig cup, light ice
20:18.07TecnoBrathow many pageviews does WH actually get a month?
20:18.10brattabrb..gotta interview someone
20:18.24evilgeekgrli have the eggrolls on friday on my way home because i leave at 1
20:18.30evilgeekgrlwell for another week i do
20:18.30MalgayneTecno, over 200 million
20:19.20TecnoBratMalgayne, ahh yes, I see
20:19.23TecnoBrathttp://www.quantcast.com/wowhead.com/traffic
20:19.25rayfordAt my last job, I was like 100 feet from a really awesome malt shop.  I'd get a soda every day, then like 2 days a week, I'd order a chili dog and chili fries.
20:19.30TecnoBrat85m US, 202m global
20:19.37TecnoBratthats pretty decent
20:19.46Malgayneyup
20:19.51evilgeekgrli try very hard not to go out to lunch
20:19.56Malgayne875 is a pretty impressive rank for a site with such niche appeal
20:19.57evilgeekgrlits so expensive if you add it up
20:20.09evilgeekgrllike if i get a burrito its like 7$
20:20.13rayfordSame here.  But I usually give in once a week.  Typically Friday's.
20:20.19evilgeekgrl:)
20:20.21rayfordevilgeekgrl:  !!!
20:20.34Sky20429 million custormers isn't exactly niche anymore/...
20:20.40MalgayneWell, no
20:20.42TecnoBratour network shows 800m ads worldwide a month
20:20.44rayford$7 for a burrito?!  I work a block away from a mexican joint.  I pay like $3.50.
20:20.47MalgayneBut it's not like, say, yahoo.com
20:20.50Sky2042true
20:20.53TecnoBratso when I put that into perspective, yea, 200m is a lot.
20:20.58evilgeekgrlits a giant burrito
20:21.03evilgeekgrli cant finish it all
20:21.06rayfordWTF do you put ON it?
20:21.26rayfordYou put caviar on your burrito or something?  No way it should be that expensive.
20:21.28evilgeekgrlthey put umm, rice, beans, pico, sour cream, tons of cheese
20:21.57evilgeekgrlok maybe its like 6 i dont know but then sometimes i get a snapple or a soda
20:21.59TheOnyxQdoba's or Chipotle == burritos FTW
20:22.06Malgayne<3 Chipotle
20:22.14evilgeekgrlOMG chipotle is complete and utter BARF
20:22.23TecnoBratwow Skosiris is having connection issues today
20:22.31evilgeekgrli went there once, took two bites, spit it out and left
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20:22.33rayfordIf its Chipotle, I can understand.  That stuff if teh uber.
20:22.41MalgayneWell, it's not exactly mexican food
20:22.50rayfordYeah, not so much.  : P  But still good.
20:22.51evilgeekgrlits barf food
20:22.55TecnoBratI just went for tacos
20:23.02TecnoBrat2 shrimp tacos
20:23.03TecnoBratmmmmm
20:23.08TecnoBratand beer, of course
20:23.09Sky2042shrimp...
20:23.11TheOnyxQdoba > Chipotle, in my opinion
20:23.11TecnoBratcan't forget the beer
20:23.12Sky2042tecno, you're strange
20:23.18TecnoBratYou need to try it
20:23.19evilgeekgrli dont have qdoba
20:23.19TheOnyxbut both make huge, delicious burritos
20:23.33jmccaffreyI have had questionable meat at chipotle
20:23.34TecnoBratshrimp on a taco is awesome, big shrimp (almost prawn size shrimp)
20:23.43TheOnyxnot really mexican burritos, really
20:23.50TheOnyxAmerican Burritos
20:23.50evilgeekgrlit was the rice at chipotle that i thought was really nasty
20:23.51TecnoBratnot the shitty crap you put in salads
20:24.02TheOnyxevilgeekgrl: Qdoba == white rice
20:24.07evilgeekgrlEW
20:24.12MalgayneI can definitely see how the rice would be an acquired taste
20:24.15MalgayneBut I personally love it
20:24.29rayfordSame here, Mal.
20:24.31jmccaffreyfreebirds?
20:24.49evilgeekgrlmy husband hated it too
20:25.33evilgeekgrli like el toritos chicken nachos the best
20:25.50evilgeekgrli think its because they put encalada (sp) sauce on
20:25.55evilgeekgrlenchaldia
20:25.58evilgeekgrli give up
20:26.05Malgayneenchilada.  :)
20:26.08evilgeekgrlyea that
20:26.26rayfordGaah.  I just ate, and now I feel like ordering some carne asada fries.  >.<
20:26.54evilgeekgrllol
20:26.56Sky2042"If you try to fail and succeed, what did you just do?"
20:26.56evilgeekgrlsorry
20:27.44rayfordIf you pass out while trying to suffocate yourself, thats like failing at failing.
20:28.27evilgeekgrli think my wow is broken
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20:28.27evilgeekgrlim like major lagged out
20:28.27evilgeekgrloh now everyone just ran really fast and caught up
20:28.29evilgeekgrllol
20:28.29hiawaniroflor armory hiawani argent dawn
20:28.30roflor[ Name: Hiawani ][ Level: 70 ][ Race: Tauren ][ Class: Druid ][ Spec: 0/47/14 ][ Title: First Sergeant ][ Gender: Male ][ Guild: Bloodmoon Chosen ][ Professions: Mining: 375 Engineering: 362 ][ Heroics: CoT, CFR, TK, Auch ][ Realm: argent dawn ][ URL: http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/#character-sheet.xml?r=Argent+Dawn&n=Hiawani ]
20:28.48TheOnyxNo large pasts, please.
20:28.53TheOnyx*pastes
20:28.57hiawaniTheOnyx: demonstrating for Malgayne
20:28.58evilgeekgrlpasties?
20:29.02TecnoBratthat wasn't a paste
20:29.09MalgayneBot report
20:29.12TheOnyxI see.
20:29.40evilgeekgrli bet you cant do me
20:29.44evilgeekgrlyou dont know my char name
20:29.46evilgeekgrlbwahahah
20:30.12hiawaniwasn't planning on trying :P
20:30.21rayfordJoo no can does me!  >.>
20:30.32TheOnyxI CAN HAS REPORT?
20:30.52Sky2042if you joined #wowwiki, we have a bot or two in there that can do char reports... :o
20:31.18TecnoBratI wrote one in ruby
20:31.26TecnoBratit sits in my guid channel
20:31.29TecnoBratguild*
20:31.30Sky2042jebus, what's up with skosiris today?
20:31.32hiawanihah
20:31.40TecnoBrat<3 ruby
20:32.11evilgeekgrlhow do you use it for char reports
20:32.15TheOnyxPersonally, I'd be down for a bot that just provided a link
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20:32.32TheOnyxso if you want the rest of that, you click, otherwise it doesn't clutter the chan
20:32.35TecnoBratgives char stats by spec, plus gives a list of current buffs
20:32.42[dRaCo]armory sucks.
20:32.45TecnoBratTheOnyx, does that too
20:32.48Sky2042give me a sec evilgeekgrl
20:33.37hiawaniI generally just message it to avoid cluttering channels, the armory site is irritatingly slow to load due to the excess graphical elements
20:33.46Sky2042nvm evil
20:34.13TecnoBrat-13:29:15- (Progeny) Barbanus, Level 70 Human Male Paladin (42/19/0): Resilience: 0.00; Health: 8267; Intellect: 601; Mana: 11688; Plus Healing: 1703; Holy Crit %: 19.97; MP5: 140.00;
20:34.14TecnoBrat-13:29:15- (Progeny) Buffs: Prayer of Spirit, Arcane Brilliance, Concentration Aura, Gift of the Wild, Prayer of Fortitude
20:34.15TheOnyxhiawani: are you using some sort of API or just parsing the page src?
20:34.16TecnoBratthats what mine does
20:34.38TheOnyxTecnoBrat: same question ^
20:34.52TecnoBratTheOnyx, its XML
20:35.01TecnoBratso you parse the xml and then just output it
20:35.05hiawaniTheOnyx: It uses the Games::WoW::Armory perl module for its backend parsing
20:35.05TecnoBratthe whole armory is XML
20:35.11hiawaniwhich parses the XML
20:35.14TheOnyxNice.
20:35.30TheOnyxI think I might have to toy with that.,
20:35.45TecnoBratyea, it was a fun project
20:35.46hiawaniIt's still in heavy development, but pulls in pretty much every bit of data
20:35.52TecnoBratjust for shits and giggles
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20:36.35rayfordMal:  Did you see that app from Cylyna?  : P
20:36.43MalgayneI did
20:36.49MalgayneIt looks familiar
20:36.53MalgayneBut I can't remember who that is
20:36.56rayfordHe's the GM of ME.
20:37.04jmccaffreyoh wow it does use XSLT, thats pretty cool
20:37.27buuAnyone happen to know how wowmetrics finds players?
20:37.33TecnoBratteh armory does some really retarded things with javascript
20:37.41TecnoBratbuu, link?
20:37.56rayfordI'm tryin to decide if he has some other motivation for checking out our site.
20:38.03buuTecnoBrat: Waht?
20:38.22TecnoBratbuu, nm I found it, looks like it uses the armory
20:38.57buuTecnoBrat: No, shit?
20:39.01jmccaffreyHow do bots browse the armory?
20:39.06jmccaffreyIs there a player listing?
20:39.09buuNo =[
20:39.13TecnoBratthey pull the XML search results
20:39.21buuThere are no useful search results
20:39.28jmccaffreyI get that, but how do they know character names
20:39.34buuThe only way I know of is to pull the arena list, pull the players, pull their guilds and scrape frmo there.
20:39.36MalgayneWell, BB said that someone would be sending us an application--someone that we knew
20:39.43TecnoBratthat site you have to enter your character
20:39.46TecnoBratyou have to "add it"
20:40.10jmccaffreyI was thinking more of like Wowjustsu
20:40.16buuTecnoBrat: Not actually.
20:40.21jmccaffrey*wowjutsu
20:40.49buuTecnoBrat: Well, let me rephrase. You need to add people it can't find via the above method.
20:41.41buuEek. 328 crit, 200 hit, 1171 shadow.
20:42.20TecnoBratwow
20:42.21TecnoBrathttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/arena-ladder.xml?b=Vengeance&ts=5
20:42.31TecnoBratour server rapes our battlegroup in arenas
20:42.56rayfordMal:  I wonder if BB was talking about Cylyna then.  Eh.  No matter.
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20:49.25TecnoBratpost on my guild forum
20:49.32TecnoBratOMG THEY ARE BRINGING NAXX BACK?
20:49.47Sky2042_afkmaybe
20:49.47TecnoBratCheap bastards cutting corners, thats nto what I pay $45 for
20:49.50Sky2042_afkthey aren't sure
20:50.00TecnoBratthats what people are crying
20:50.16Sky2042_afkcheck [[wrath]]
20:50.19TecnoBratI'm like ... uhh dude ... the thing that takes the most amount of time is the encounter design, and art ...
20:50.25TecnoBratwhich are both done
20:50.27MalgayneAre these teh same people that were crying when it was introduced in the first place, because it was content they'd never see?
20:50.30Malgayne:)
20:50.32TecnoBratthey are adding this on TOP of the content
20:50.36TecnoBratnot instead of the content
20:51.05TecnoBratMalgayne, actually these are people we recruited who used to raid with Drama
20:51.12TecnoBratone of the top guilds in the US
20:51.21jmccaffreynaxx was so good
20:51.27jmccaffreyCan't wait to do it again
20:51.32Malgayneah.  Those are probably not people who didn't see the content then.
20:51.34jmccaffreybest raid zone
20:51.38TecnoBrat11th in the US to be exact.
20:51.54TecnoBrathaha, yea, they definately saw it
20:52.02TecnoBratI never saw the last 4 bosses
20:52.11TecnoBratI saw the first bunch, and it makes me wanna go back
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20:57.42rayfordYa know that they're also lookin to add heroic badges to kara.
20:58.23jmccaffreyheroic karazan?
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20:58.40rayfordNope.  Regular.
20:58.44jmccaffreydoh
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21:00.07KasoYaki the IE6 hack seems to be broken thats the issue
21:00.16Kasoseriously IE 6 is ooolde, you should update!
21:00.39Kasodamn
21:00.42Kasowrong room
21:06.09Malgaynelol
21:07.52TecnoBrataparantly Sko's connection dies every time the wind blows
21:07.55TecnoBratand its windy
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21:10.12rayfordAh hahaha.
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21:15.57TecnoBratwho here made it to blizzcon
21:16.03zushiba<-
21:16.04Romanjih
21:16.50Romanjinot me, i wish
21:16.58MalgayneMe either.  :(
21:17.11Romanjibut i think Arthas will pwn all in the new expansion, hehe
21:18.36zushibathe ZAM Network needs to not just higher in Minneapolis.
21:19.36MalgayneWell, send the resume anyway if you're interested
21:20.04TecnoBratI bet they are getting a lot of ppl eh?
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21:21.23zushibaI live in php all day to escape having to do real work...
21:22.03MalgayneDunno, the resumes dont' go to me.  :)
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21:24.13TecnoBratI'd apply if there was a way I could even go anywhere with my current RL obligations
21:26.56zushibakids?
21:27.01zushibawife?
21:27.11blayhi
21:27.17zushibahello blay
21:28.38blayyet another place to idle/lurk :)
21:28.49MalgayneWelcome.  :)
21:29.00blayty very much
21:30.32zushibaI went to an EU realm forum
21:30.40zushibait was... interesting.
21:31.23TecnoBratzushiba, yes, kid
21:31.29TecnoBratand a custody battle over him
21:32.03zushibaYou could pay someone to do "something" and it wouldn't be a problem anymore.
21:32.26zushibaThough if you do, you never heard it from me.
21:35.57zushibabrb
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22:11.05brattalater guys
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22:12.35evilgeekgrlwoot im getting an ipod adapter installed in my car tomorrow
22:12.44MalgayneNice!
22:14.09winkillerbah, ipod
22:14.13skizmonce i went to best buy to buy a new receiver for my car, and i asked the guy which one i should get if i want to connect my ipod to it
22:14.19winkillerrecently first time I tried to use one..
22:14.29skizmhe told me to get a certain one, so i did.  he said i'd have to order an adapter online, which i did
22:14.39skizmthen i took it in there to have him install it, and it didn't have the right port on the receiver
22:14.45skizmso basically he was just wrong
22:14.57skizmhe said i could trade up to a receiver that had that port, but i never got around to it
22:15.34winkillerbest buy doesn't sound too trustworthy :P
22:17.26jmccaffreyIts the best buy, what can't you trust?
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22:18.32nerolihey
22:19.23nerolianyone knows how can i get, using wowhead, a list of all enchants that i can apply on e.g. chest?
22:19.53Malgayneone sec, phone
22:20.12jmccaffreyneroli: Search "Enchant Chest" ?
22:21.07nerolioh
22:21.18nerolii mean not chest but head
22:22.53MalgayneSame thing
22:24.01nerolihm
22:24.02neroliokay
22:25.28evilgeekgrlyou want all enchants or just chest?
22:25.40evilgeekgrloh you mean like you can get faction things?
22:25.44evilgeekgrlgood luck with that
22:26.47evilgeekgrlmy ipod adapter is made by gm
22:26.57evilgeekgrltheir engineers partnered with apple
22:27.06evilgeekgrlits covered under the same warranty as my car
22:27.24MalgayneRight
22:27.25MalgayneBack now
22:28.20Malgayneneroli, did you find what you were looking for?
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22:29.06neroliye
22:29.08neroliItems>Miscellaneous>Permanent Enchantments
22:29.21evilgeekgrlwow cool i thought it would be a lot harder haha
22:29.22MalgayneWelcome Owen
22:29.33OVVeNThank you. :)
22:29.34neroli:P
22:29.43OVVeNO V V e N though.
22:29.51MalgayneOh, pardon me.  :)
22:29.59OVVeNNo problem at all. ^^
22:30.17OVVeNHow is everyone?
22:30.54evilgeekgrlim ok
22:31.01MalgayneGood good
22:31.03evilgeekgrla little hungry, tired, cranky, bitchy
22:31.06evilgeekgrlthe norm
22:31.09evilgeekgrllol
22:31.20OVVeNOh, that doesn't sound to nice. :p
22:32.43evilgeekgrlOVVeN: what do you mean? its great
22:33.47rayfordevilgeekgrl:  Isn't that how all women feel all the time?
22:33.54Malgayneooooooh
22:34.04evilgeekgrlpretty much i think
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22:34.18gamemaniachi everybody
22:34.19MalgayneWelcome!
22:34.23evilgeekgrlhi!
22:34.31gamemaniachurray i feel wanted
22:34.37OVVeNYou are wanted! :)
22:34.50gamemaniaccool!
22:34.53OVVeNIn a good way though.
22:35.06OVVeNNot "Wanted, dead or alive."
22:35.09gamemaniacoh ok
22:35.10gamemaniacgood
22:35.11rayfordYou're wanted.  Just not by me.  : P
22:35.26gamemaniacaww /wrist
22:35.45gamemaniacbut anyway can i ask a question
22:35.51rayfordYou just did.
22:36.00gamemaniacbut i didnt put a ? after it
22:36.06rayfordWow.  I'm in a cranky, sarcastic mood.  I should shut up....
22:36.06MalgayneTrue
22:36.11MalgayneSo we'll let you off the hook this time
22:36.14Malgayne:)
22:36.15gamemaniacok
22:36.18MalgayneWhat's up, maniac?
22:36.23rayfordBah!  Don't give him any slack, Mal!
22:36.26gamemaniacwhat is the quest line for that netherdrake
22:36.33Malgayneno slack for you either, ray.  :P
22:36.34evilgeekgrlhold on i have a link for you
22:36.41gamemaniacok
22:36.41MalgayneThanks Geet, I actually didn't know that one
22:36.43evilgeekgrlhttp://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/personal/08/02/o.marriage.questions/index.html
22:36.48evilgeekgrloops
22:36.51evilgeekgrlthats not it ROFLMAO
22:36.56gamemaniaclol
22:36.57evilgeekgrlhttp://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=120.0
22:37.03evilgeekgrlgood thing it wasnt porn
22:37.25evilgeekgrlbut those questions are pretty bad i dont know what oprah is doing letting that stuff on her site
22:37.49rayfordI stopped after the first one.
22:37.50MalgayneI dunno, didn't seem bad to me
22:37.58rayfordI didn't even finish reading the first one.
22:38.08MalgayneThat's because you're feeling cranky and sarcastic.  :P
22:38.10rayfordI got to like the 5th word in, then lost interest.
22:38.13rayford<PROTECTED>
22:38.24rayfordI should find a puppy to kick.  >.>
22:38.38MalgayneThis way he won't notice the pr0n
22:38.46MalgayneGo watch that LFG video again
22:38.49MalgayneMake you feel better
22:38.53rayfordNo sound.  ) :
22:39.07OVVeNThat's to bad <=(
22:39.14rayfordWell, more accurately, I've got my computer speakers plugged into my iPod.  Musicks FTW.
22:39.26gamemaniacthanks for that link
22:39.43evilgeekgrlyou think those questions are ok?
22:39.44evilgeekgrlQuestion 4: What is our ultimate financial goal regarding annual income, and when do we anticipate achieving it? By what means and through what efforts?
22:40.14evilgeekgrlthey sound like a lawyer wrote them
22:40.34zushibaThere needs to be like 18 more places with Warsong in the name.
22:40.36MalgayneWell, they're written very stiffly, sure
22:40.43zushibaI hope WoTLK delivers on this.
22:40.52MalgayneThat whole last sentence could be replaced with the word "How?"
22:40.52evilgeekgrlQuestion 3: How much money do we earn together? Now? In one year? In five years? Ten? Who is responsible for which portion? Now? In one year? Five? Ten?
22:41.29rayford"Who brings home the bacon?"
22:42.15rayford"Who will still be bringin home the chedduh in the next 5 years?  Who will still be breaking their back in ten years?"
22:42.30Malgaynehehe
22:42.39MalgayneAside from the writing style, it doesn't sound terribly strange to me
22:43.53evilgeekgrlhonestly you can talk about it all you want
22:43.58evilgeekgrlbut likely everything is going to change
22:44.02OVVeNI'm so bored these days. :( All my friends are on vacation or doing something else. ;<
22:44.05evilgeekgrli mean before i got married i wanted kids
22:44.17evilgeekgrli wanted at least 2 a boy and a girl, i even had names picked
22:44.22evilgeekgrlnow, i dont want kids
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22:44.36OVVeNSorry for going all offtopicemo and ruining evilgeek's sentence (a)
22:44.49OVVeNWelcome MorPhaGo
22:45.10evilgeekgrlas far as who cooks, cleans etc,
22:45.17MalgayneWell, that's true
22:45.20evilgeekgrlimo marriage is about comprimise and adapting
22:45.28MalgayneThings do change
22:45.29rayfordExactly!
22:45.45MalgayneBut you don't want to get married to someone without at least knowing how the other person FEELS about these questions
22:45.48MalgayneEven if you don't agree
22:45.55zushibaI'm not sure why anyone puts any stock in what Oprah says, especially in the area of marriage, isn't she like.... gay and uhm emo?
22:46.00evilgeekgrlso asking all these questions might give you some ideas but i would hope that the person asking isnt going to write them down then later pull out a list that says well you said this or that, its just absurd
22:46.15evilgeekgrllol
22:46.19evilgeekgrlshe isnt gay is she?
22:46.25MalgayneNow on THAT I agree with you totally
22:46.27zushibaPretty sure.
22:46.29MalgayneEr--the list thing
22:46.30OVVeNI don't know, could imagine so though.
22:46.33MalgayneNo idea if Oprah is gay
22:46.39OVVeNLet's find out :)
22:46.43evilgeekgrllol
22:46.55rayfordAren't you thinking of Rosie O'Donnell?(sp?)
22:47.01zushibahmmmm
22:47.11evilgeekgrlyea rosie is gay for sures, she is out of the closet!
22:47.13zushibathey are both loud annoying attention whores so quite possibly yes.
22:47.18OVVeNI just found out something quite funny :p
22:47.26OVVeNOprah Gail Winfrey
22:47.29OVVeNIs her full name
22:47.40rayfordOprah Windfury?
22:47.41evilgeekgrlwhy is that funny?
22:47.59OVVeNMaybe far fetched (sp?) But we where talking about here being gay (gail)
22:48.06Malgaynehehe
22:48.07OVVeNI don't even find it funny myself anymore
22:48.07zushibaLets go on the assumption for the moment that Oprah is gay, Now her stupid name makes sense along with her "in your face, I'm a butch chick" style of fatting on the TV.
22:48.50rayfordWhenever I think of Oprah, I can't help but think of Ocean's 13.
22:49.04evilgeekgrlLOL
22:49.08zushibaLet's also assume for the moment that robots will vaporize her.
22:49.14zushibaThat doesn't have anything to do with the conversation or anything but just picture it. Now isn't the world a better place?
22:49.24OVVeNHow do you connect Oprah to ocean's 13?
22:49.32OVVeNIt kinda is.
22:49.49rayford"Are they really going to build a house for the family?"  "Yup.  With enough bedrooms for all the kids."  "....*sniffle*..."
22:50.15rayfordThey have a scene in Ocean's 13 where George Clooney and Brad Pitt are talking, and George was watching Oprah.  It was just sorta random and funny.
22:50.16evilgeekgrlhahahahah
22:50.21evilgeekgrli remember that
22:50.26evilgeekgrland they were both crying
22:50.42rayfordAnd at the end, when them and Matt Damien are in the airport, all watching Oprah.  That was great too.
22:50.43OVVeNI only saw the movie in the cinemas
22:50.47OVVeNCan't remember
22:51.15zushibacinemas we don't have anything that fancy out here just theaters.
22:51.21rayfordIt was awesome.  : P
22:51.22evilgeekgrlwhere are you from haha cinemas
22:51.25rayfordBrb.
22:51.27evilgeekgrlwe say theater
22:51.31evilgeekgrlFREAK
22:51.35Malgaynelol
22:51.42evilgeekgrl:)
22:51.54OVVeN:'<
22:52.02evilgeekgrlaww
22:52.23evilgeekgrl>:)
22:52.32OVVeN*wimper*
22:53.05OVVeNUhm, I'm from Sweden. "Cinemas" was kinda the first word that popped up in my head. :)
22:53.18zushibaNotice in that pic with those questions the couple is all skinny, white and happy. I somehow doubt they needed to figure out who was going to "bring in the bacon" with daddys trust fund funding their life of highclass redneckery. However that guy's tie is White not Black. So he's obviously a racist. So the marriage will never work.
22:53.49evilgeekgrlROFLMAO
22:53.57OVVeN"A movie theater (North America), also known as a cinema "
22:54.19OVVeNYay. ^^
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22:54.52evilgeekgrllol ook time to go home
22:54.52rayfordBack.
22:54.54evilgeekgrlbyebyeybe
22:55.00OVVeNbyebyebyebye
22:55.12OVVeNYour name still made yours longer ;<
22:55.29OVVeNSee you later, evil one.
22:55.34rayfordLaters evil.
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22:57.48rayfordMal:  Has Miz told you about Sims 3 comin out?
22:58.21rayfordBritt saw it, and is all excited now.  >.<
23:00.08OVVeNI heard it would be out april 2009 ;<
23:00.47rayfordEh.  I dunno.  The wife is all excited about it.
23:01.03rayfordBut we spend enough money on the expansions, I'd like to recoup a bit before they come out with a new version.  : P
23:01.57OVVeNThe "plant-thingy" expansion was going to far IMO.
23:02.25rayfordWhat plant thingy?
23:05.01OVVeNWell I don't know the name since I don't play then anymore, but I saw my brothers girlfriend playing an expansion where you could "plant babies" and such.
23:05.04MalgayneI hadn't heard Ray
23:05.06MalgayneI'll tell Miz
23:05.43rayfordOVVeN:  Odd.  My wife doesn't do that.  I think your brothers GF may have had a mod or something.
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23:06.39OVVeNI'll look for some expansion list, brb.
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23:07.00Technus90Hello everyone
23:07.07OVVeNHello there. :)
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23:07.09MalgayneWelcome!
23:07.13gamemaniacWHY HELLO THAR
23:07.43Technus90wht servers do you guys play on?
23:07.44RawsPANTS?!
23:08.22MalgayneI play on US Draenor, with Ray
23:08.44Technus90Anyone play on BlackWater Raiders?
23:10.51MalgayneI guess not.  =/
23:10.58Technus90yeah lol
23:11.03MalgayneSorry.  :P
23:11.04OVVeNI play on kazzak EU
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23:11.09Malgayne...
23:11.16rayfordWait.  What about pants?  Are we having a pants party?  A party with the pants?
23:11.24MalgayneToo late, he's gone
23:11.30OVVeNI would love a party with pants on
23:12.17Rawsin that case, you can have the pants from my party, as I want as little to do with pants as possible
23:12.18OVVeNAnd about that plant thingy, appearantly no expansion. Though it's possible without mods, you get some "disease" from plants.
23:12.53rayfordWhoa whoa whoa.  I don't want pants either.  What made you decide that?  I just thought that we would be partying with pants as guests.
23:14.09MalgayneWe hav ea guild member named Unduhpants
23:14.13MalgayneI just call him Pants for short
23:14.48Rawsin that case, I really, really, REALLY like your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter, join your guild, meet your colleagues, and consume your classy exclusive beverages
23:15.29OVVeNThis rogue sure is lucky, http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Illidan&n=Furi
23:15.57MalgayneOoh
23:15.58MalgayneI heard about him
23:16.13OVVeNHere's a picture. http://www.worldofraids.com/img/boards/bt/furi2.jpg :)
23:16.24rayfordHe the one with the twin blades?
23:16.43skizmhaste rating is overpowered
23:17.07Malgaynehttp://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&3.32838#30827
23:17.21skizmwtf he has 4 piece slayer's too
23:17.25skizmsup 2500 ss
23:17.37Mr_Rabies2hrm... where's that site with all the reset timers for the raid instances and stuff?
23:18.11skizmlol : /
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23:31.17OVVeNWake up people! :)
23:31.30rayfordNo U!
23:31.30Rawshttp://kr.img.image.yahoo.com/ygi/gallery/img/48/97/44c9f5d10e4a6.jpg -- hmm, this looks inviting
23:31.46rayfordI'm looking at Halo 3 stuff.  ; P
23:32.07OVVeN<3
23:32.23OVVeNI'm playing guitar. (^^,)
23:32.34RawsI wish I could play guitar and type at the same time
23:32.43MalgayneI
23:32.48Rawsme too, actually
23:32.50MalgayneI'm compiling bug reports for Wowhead.  =/
23:32.52TheOnyxWith Guitat Hero, you can!
23:33.02TheOnyx*Guitar
23:33.05skizmyou can?
23:33.07TheOnyxI own all three of them.
23:33.08TheOnyxSure!
23:33.14Rawsbah, speaking of bug reports, I need to do some of that
23:33.16skizmhow's that
23:33.27TheOnyxThe pause button :)
23:33.34OVVeN^^
23:33.41skizmlol -_-
23:33.56rayfordHahaha.
23:34.06skizmi don't think that quite counts as "at the same time"
23:34.32skizmhave you seen the official dragonforce video from guitar hero 3?
23:35.41OVVeNI haven't ;)
23:35.41TheOnyxNo. I actually wanted to research the playlist.
23:35.55TheOnyxApparently it won't be covers but actual versions by the bands.
23:36.04skizmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwPF3kW7VHY
23:36.15skizmit doesn't show the whole song unfortunately, but you can see how crazy it's going to be :)
23:36.22OVVeNI have a problem, I love pvp at 70, but my character is at lvl 64. And I hate leveling. What to do? :/
23:36.26TheOnyxwoah
23:36.31TheOnyxThat's crazy
23:36.41skizmOVVeN call china
23:37.43TheOnyxThis video is crazy
23:37.47TheOnyxI'll never be that good
23:38.20OVVeNChina can't help me, because I also happen to hate chinese farmers.
23:38.42rayfordOVVeN:  Call Bungie, and tell them that screenshots of Halo 3 take too long to load.
23:38.56skizmTheOnyx have you passed all the songs on expert?
23:39.04skizmin the games that are already out ;p
23:39.18TheOnyxskizm: I've never played but a few on expert.
23:39.21skizmoic
23:39.26TheOnyxI mostly dabble in normal
23:39.32OVVeNBungie told me to go to ign instead ^^
23:39.57TheOnyxotherwise what i'd hear would be less like music and more like the 6th level of hell
23:40.50skizmheh
23:48.20TheOnyxHrrmm
23:48.30TheOnyxGuitar Hero III has a pretty solid playlist.
23:49.24Mr_Rabies2did they announce more on it recently?
23:49.34Mr_Rabies2last i heard was a couple songs that are also in rock band
23:50.48TheOnyxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero_III:_Legends_of_Rock
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