IRC log for #wowhead on 20070811

00:01.24MalgayneBah.  Where did Sko go?
00:09.17*** join/#wowhead Cecen (n=Cecen@hlfxns01bbh-142068183136.pppoe-dynamic.ns.aliant.net)
00:10.37CecenFor anyone PvP savvy, is it possible to deal with a Druid/anything in a 2v2 arena?
00:13.52rayfordWhacha mean?
00:14.16CecenDruid healing in a 2v2 arena, how can you counter it?
00:14.27CecenI'm a Shadow Priest, my friend is a Warlock, we're geared.
00:14.53rayfordHave the Lock sick the fel puppy on the Druid?
00:15.01CecenThe Druid is only using Lifebloom and Swiftmend
00:15.18CecenIt rarely uses a spell with a time, aside from Cyclone.
00:15.33CecenThe Lifebloom is ticking 300-350 / sec with a 1000+ burst
00:16.01MalgayneShadow Priest Silence...?
00:16.04rayfordFel pup's can eat/dispel spells, right?
00:16.08CecenOnly lasts 5 seconds
00:16.13CecenIf you dispel Lifebloom, the big heal goes off
00:16.17MalgayneOoh
00:16.20CecenAnd it's an instant cast with no cooldown
00:16.49MalgayneWell, you can focus fire the druid...
00:16.56Cecen>_< Can't, it LoS's us
00:17.04MalgayneBut you'd have to get through the healing while the other guy beats on you
00:17.10CecenAnd the Druid is usually with a Rogue, so it basically disables one of us.
00:17.22CecenWe're at a complete loss of what we can do
00:17.54rayfordGood question.
00:17.57CorganHmm
00:18.12MalgayneWell
00:18.25MalgayneBetween a slience and a spell lock, how much silence do you have?
00:18.49CecenArcane Torrent (if it hits, lag stops it sometimes), Silence, and the Spell Lock. About 10 seconds in total.
00:18.59CecenNot nearly enough to kill, and silence doesn't stop the HoTs from ticking
00:19.01Corganplus a fear
00:19.07CecenYes, fear will work once
00:19.11CecenPossibly twice
00:19.20Corganhmm
00:19.23CecenBut we usually need to keep it on the Rogue
00:19.26CecenOr it'll end up killing one of us
00:19.49Corganmmhmm
00:20.56CecenAnother problem is that if we leave the Druid alone, it chains Cyclone and Bash on me. >_<
00:21.13CecenWe sometimes can Spell Lock it while it's Cycloning, but it's not enough to kill either of them.
00:21.30CecenMy Warlock is Affliction/Demo, so all of his damage is DoTs, and the Rogue can just drop them all if it can't get heals
00:21.44MalgayneThat's a really tough call.  I wish I knew more about pvp.
00:21.59rayfordAye.  I think that ya might be boned.
00:22.10MalgayneYou think that the shadow priest can kill the rogue one on one?
00:22.12rayfordIf ya had a Mage, I'd say toss out the AoE and the Spell Steal.
00:22.16CecenGod no. >_>
00:22.25Cecen:( It's just me and a Warlock, no sub
00:22.35MalgayneBecause you could potentially lock down the druid
00:22.47MalgayneBy just stacking enough DoT's that they have to heal through them full time
00:22.58CecenOne Lifebloom will outheal our DoTs >_<
00:23.01CecenIf not, a Rejuv.
00:23.14rayfordBut then he's busy healing himself, rather than the Rogue.
00:23.18MalgayneOne rejuvenation will outheal all your DoTs put together?
00:23.20CecenHis heals are all instant, though
00:23.23CecenHe just stacks on HoTs
00:23.37CecenRejuv + Lifebloom.. Rejuv is doing about 750 / 3 secs, Lifebloom is doing about 350 / sec
00:23.44CecenWith another 1000-1400 after 7 seconds
00:23.54CecenAnd she can cleanse one of the Warlock's DoTs
00:24.06CecenWe can't get Unstable Affliction or Vampiric Touch up, because it LoSs us
00:24.26CecenAnd Crippling Poison prevents one of us from reaching her with our spells, too
00:24.59CecenThe Rogue is usually focusing on the Warlock, but he randomly breaks off to shiv Crippling Poison onto me, so at times, both of us are unable to really move
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00:26.33rayfordAnd Fear doesn't work on the Rogue?
00:29.41CecenIt does 3 times
00:29.52CecenThe first is broken by a trinket and the second/third are usually broken quickly by damage
00:30.03CecenThe third only lasts, I believe, 3 seconds anyway
00:32.14MalgayneMan
00:32.16MalgayneThat's a tough one
00:32.21MalgayneI wish I knew pvp a little better
00:32.27CecenYeah ><
00:34.14rayfordLaters kids.  Mal, lemme know how that code thang works.
00:53.05MalgayneYou know
00:53.08MalgayneRay is such a nice guy
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00:53.17MalgayneI never imagine he'd be "the cranky one" when I brought him in here.  :)
00:54.04HitmanblackThey still haven't announced what the new +12 strength gem is going to be, wonder what rep faction it may be from...
00:54.04Skosirishttp://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/4/4a/200px-CRANKY08.JPG
00:59.05MalgayneHaha
00:59.08Malgayne<3 Sko
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03:00.53PwnfaceIsPwnhay gusy
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03:58.15SkosirisHello, Kirkburn1
03:58.31Kirkburnyo
03:58.37KirkburnWas testing XChat
03:58.46KirkburnLinux ftl
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04:08.06KirkburnImportant - (20:02:43) [NewsBot]: WOW Insider: http://www.wowinsider.com/2007/08/10/42-realms-down-for-48-hours/
04:13.06AdysXchat is awesome kirk
04:17.22KirkburnIt would be if it didn't make my screen go sparkly
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04:27.04CrevoxDarn, I play on Argent Dawn
04:27.09Crevox2 days of zzz
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05:12.17DuTempetewhat?!
05:12.18Tekkubjust what I need, more channels
05:12.32Skosirishell yeah, the more the merrier
05:12.34DuTempeteI thought you were too proud to join, Tekkub?
05:12.48DuTempeteI'm too ADD to pay attention to two channels at once!
05:12.51Sky2042oh yes tekkub, cause you have sooooooo many pages open
05:12.58Sky2042what's this #wwsysop?
05:13.12Tekkubdongle, head, wowi, wiki, kwiki admin
05:13.41DuTempeteoh, crap.  Adys is an admin here, too?
05:13.49*** kick/#wowhead [DuTempete!i=Adys@90.50.39.214] by Adys (yes)
05:14.01Sky2042gg
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05:14.12Sky2042he can't abuse his powers here, or so im told.
05:14.17Adysyou bet
05:14.18Sky2042>.>
05:14.19Sky2042<.<
05:14.28DuTempeteYou just lost your sloppy seconds privilages.
05:14.32Bleeteryou're all craaaazy
05:14.43AdysShe called me a bitch :(
05:14.45Bleeter<bootsy/>
05:14.48Sky2042uh wrong channel?...
05:14.58AdysNo.
05:15.38Skosirisis DuTempete still too busy to work on articles? :(
05:15.44DuTempeteYes, she is :(
05:15.55AdysHow about DuGabarit?
05:16.10DuTempeteDuTempete is on a very short, and only semi-official vacation atm.
05:16.31Skosirisoh
05:17.14DuTempeteSorry, honey, maybe in 3 years, when I'md one with school. :(
05:17.24Skosirisalrighty
05:21.48DuTempeteOh, and Adys, DuGabarit is on hiatus.  The townspeople caught her improving their templates, and now they're afraid of her super-powers.
05:22.02AdysImproving templates eh
05:22.35Adys:/
05:22.38Adys~dugabarit
05:22.39infobotClothes hacking, alcohol stealing, Titanic-proving-sinking-of-by-WoWWiki layyydeeeeee!
05:22.46Adys~no, dugabarit is improving templates
05:22.48DuTempetelol
05:23.56DuTempete~no, DuGabarit is does not exist.
05:24.21Adyshe doesnt listen to you
05:24.39DuTempete!dugabarit
05:24.48DuTempete~dugabarit
05:24.49infobotClothes hacking, alcohol stealing, Titanic-proving-sinking-of-by-WoWWiki layyydeeeeee!
05:24.59Adys~dugabarit
05:25.00infobotmethinks dugabarit is improving templates
05:25.03Adysmeh
05:25.08DuTempete~no, infobot, dugabarit is does not exist.
05:25.39DuTempete~infobot, no, dugabarit is does not exist.
05:25.39infobotokay, DuTempete
05:25.44DuTempeteneener.
05:25.54Adysinfobot dugabarit?
05:25.54infobotdugabarit is, like, does not exist.
05:26.02Adysmakes sense doesnt it
05:26.06DuTempeteeew
05:26.17Adysinfobot, dugabarit is <reply>
05:26.18infobot...but dugabarit is already something else...
05:26.29Adysinfobot, forget dugabarit
05:26.29infoboti forgot dugabarit, Adys
05:26.32DuTempete~infobot, no, dugabarit is a figment of your imalgamation.
05:26.32infobotDuTempete: okay
05:26.41Adysinfobot, no, dugabarit is <reply>
05:26.42infobotokay, Adys
05:26.43DuTempete~dugabarit
05:26.48Adys=]
05:26.51DuTempete*sigh*
05:27.37DuTempete~dugabarit
05:28.01Skosiris~skosiris
05:28.02infobotmethinks skosiris is the master programmer and slacker on wowhead.
05:28.07DuTempetelol
05:28.27Adysdont think infobot likes you
05:28.32Adys(dutempete)
05:29.10DuTempete~dugabarit
05:29.10infobothmm... dugabarit is a figment of your imalgamation
05:29.16DuTempeteI win.
05:29.19Adys~dutempete
05:29.20infobotSpammers
05:29.29AdysHE wins :)
05:29.32AdysWell, she
05:29.34Skosirislol
05:29.36Adys~emulate purl
05:29.36infobotMwhaha, fear my spam!
05:29.50Adysthat was
05:29.53Adyskinda creepy wasnt it
05:30.03Skosiriscan infobot talk on his own?
05:30.08Adyser no
05:30.18DuTempeteyou have to prompt it
05:31.06Kirkburnhonk
05:31.19DuTempeteoh, my bad, not looking at the middle-management
05:31.38DuTempeteI told you I was bad at following two channels...
05:31.56DuTempeteBesides, you wouldn't want any of our Cyber to spill over...
05:31.58Adys~kirkburn
05:31.58infobotAuthor of the phunky font changing addons ClearFont and ClearFont2, and WoWWiki bureaucrat. Also likes kittens and middle-management.
05:32.13Kirkburno_O
05:32.16DuTempetehehe
05:33.44DuTempeteI want to be middle-management :(
05:35.05nachosanyone know of a good addon that gives me the HP of a mob above thier heads?
05:35.33DuTempetenameplates...
05:36.00DuTempeteotherwise, the exact number of HP is not accessible
05:36.30KirkburnAloft allows you to customize them
05:37.01KirkburnThat may allow you to show the approx HP
05:39.48KirkburnFor no reason
05:41.02nachoswell i want aprox HP
05:41.25nachosnot exact, it doesnt matter that much, just want a general idea of what condition there in
05:43.10Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/
05:43.25DuTempeteIt would be interesting if there was an addon that parsed combat logs to figure out and save HP values of mobs.
05:44.20DuTempeteWowhead has the funk.
05:44.58AdysDuTempete: check MobHealth3
05:45.34CecenYeah, it's not hard to make an addon like that.
05:45.58Adysparticularly when it already exists
05:46.05*** mode/#wowhead [+v Tekkub] by Adys
05:46.26DuTempeteI'm too lazy to look, and don't care that much about how many HP a mob has, so long as I can turn it into a chunk of smoldering carbon.
05:46.40Adysyou play mage?
05:46.48DuTempeteno, duh, warlock
05:47.03DuTempetebut I use incinerate :)
05:47.19AdysBah. :)
05:49.04KirkburnOh my, I do wonder what these features may be!
05:49.26DuTempeteAye, tell us your secrets, Skosiris!
05:50.47DuTempeteHrmm... I wonder if I should sleep...
05:50.55AdysNo :(
05:51.01AdysNot without me will ya.
05:51.31AdysHeh.
05:51.51Crevox:O
05:51.55CrevoxNew and funky features omg
05:52.54DuTempeteyup, that's hype, Skosiris
05:53.00DuTempetewtg!
05:53.18DuTempetehe's probably just changing a text color...
05:53.27Skosirislol
05:53.44Skosiriswhile mystery features #1 and #2 aren't in this update, there are quite a few interesting changes
05:53.44AdysMuch more than that
05:53.55AdysWe are changing ENTIRE FONTS
05:53.59Crevoxmystery features #1 and #2
05:54.01Crevoxmmmm
05:54.02AdysCAN YOU BELIEVE THIS?! ENTIRE FONTS!!
05:54.14DuTempeteOh noes!!  Fonts?!?
05:54.20AdysFONTS!
05:55.22Adyswhats with the emotes anyway?
05:55.49DuTempeteI dunno, you're the one emoting.
05:57.36Crevox...
05:57.38Crevoxis it up yet
05:57.39Crevox:|
05:58.08Adysgive it a while
05:58.13Skosirislet's play Can you guess the changes
05:58.29AdysYay, a game i can win.
05:58.31DuTempeteYou put a picture of your penis on the front page!
05:58.43Adysunless DuTempete beats me to it!
05:58.48DuTempetehehe
05:59.13Adyshell you are
05:59.18Adyswho you gonna blame, me?
05:59.25DuTempeteAre you saying a picture of your penis on the front page would cause the site to fail?
05:59.39AdysOverload, likely
06:00.03DuTempetetoo big?
06:00.20AdysWell I'm not the one to ask.
06:00.34Adys(dare i say "yet" or am i just not going to do that)
06:00.36DuTempeteyou suggested it.
06:01.48Adyswell, still no rep junk filters sko :p
06:02.00Adysslacker ...
06:02.35Crevoxwowhead is so far the best database site, just don't mess it up :|
06:03.07skizmthat's an understatement
06:03.10Crevoxhey it's up
06:03.19Skosirissee if you can spot the changes
06:03.25DuTempetenew columns in the tables
06:03.33Adyswhat i can spot is you messed up the screenshot approval page skosiris :P
06:03.40DuTempetelol
06:04.00DuTempetelots of new icons
06:04.37Crevoxcolumns
06:04.42CrevoxIcons?
06:04.56DuTempetebasically, summary columns
06:05.16DuTempeterewards for the quest lists, ingredients for the profession lists
06:05.28DuTempeteall with fancy icons
06:05.43Adysbeing fast today DT
06:05.50CrevoxBetter categorization
06:06.17DuTempeteand icons for the faction column
06:07.23Sky2042skosiris, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=16646 look like those regents columns are really big, or am i just being silly?
06:07.29skizmis it just me or would it be better if those reagent/quest reward icons were left justified
06:07.39DuTempeteand it looks like he condensed the level and req level columns into one
06:08.07SkosirisSky2042: it's large enough to hold up to 8 icons in "narrowwide" mode (or lowresolution/ IE6 mode)
06:08.10DuTempeteit does look kinda goofy, skizm
06:08.16Sky2042yaha
06:08.42Crevoxon the left it would look silly too
06:08.45DuTempeteI'm not sure the "pick one:" is necessary
06:08.48Crevoxbecause of all that empty space
06:09.04Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?help=comments-formatting :)
06:09.12DuTempetemaybe there should be a little less cell padding
06:09.32SkosirisDuTempete: "Pick one" is so you can distinguish "you may choose one of the following.." vs "you will receive.."
06:09.34CrevoxIs there a way to incorporate training costs into http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=16646 and other trainers?
06:09.35skizmnice
06:09.57DuTempeteright, I know what it means, I'm just not sure it's necessary in the summary
06:09.59Crevoxnifty comments
06:10.26DuTempetebesides, it's kinda common sense that you're not going to get one piece of gear for each armor class from the same quest =P
06:10.36CrevoxI went to look up mount riding training costs, but it doesn't list costs for training
06:10.43Sky2042woohoo sko!
06:11.05Crevox:O
06:11.13CrevoxIt would be spiffy :)
06:11.36DuTempeteD'oh =P
06:12.05DuTempeteyes, plskthx
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06:12.40Sky2042and sko, you might want to add a new tidbit on the front page that links ppl to the new comments page.
06:12.57DuTempetewas there always a map feature?
06:13.01DuTempetewell, tool
06:13.11Skosirisyeah it's been a while
06:13.13Inc`Sko, will you write a script to wash my car? [:
06:13.16DuTempeteI've never really ventured into the tools
06:14.13CrevoxI definitely like the little quest rewards thing in the listings
06:14.19Crevoxbut maybe EXP on top?
06:14.27Crevoxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=hogger#quests like there
06:17.33Skosirishmm
06:17.40Skosiriswe would need a concensus here :p
06:18.00Sky2042xp on top imo
06:18.22Inc`I concur
06:18.34DuTempeteI don't care
06:18.36TheOnyxwtf
06:18.45TheOnyxSkosiris: what are you doing up?
06:19.34TheOnyxwell, i guess it;s friday night
06:19.36TheOnyxmakes sense
06:19.37DuTempeteBut I do think the "pick one:" should be kaput
06:19.39TheOnyxdont' mind me
06:20.19CrevoxDT: That's a good idea
06:20.24Crevoxwell...
06:20.24Crevoxbut
06:20.29CrevoxWhat about quests that give multiple items?
06:20.44DuTempetewhat about them?
06:20.59Crevoxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=2575#reward-from
06:21.00Crevoxlike here
06:21.06AdysAgreed with sko tbh :P
06:21.07Crevoxit shows no pick one, so you know you get both
06:21.11Crevoxyeah
06:21.22DuTempetemeh, not my website ;)
06:21.32CrevoxYeah is good as is :)
06:22.06DuTempeteanywho, I'm going to sleep.  I can barely sit up straight, atm.
06:22.47CrevoxHave a good night then :o sleep well
06:25.35CrevoxAwesome changes though, thanks Skosiris :o
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06:27.43SkosirisCrevox: wait 'til I put together a list of all changes
06:27.52Skosiristhere are a bunch of minor yet convenient ones
06:29.29Crevox:O
06:29.35Crevox...
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06:36.04Crevoxhmm
06:36.06Crevoxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=16827
06:36.15SkosirisSKY
06:36.20Mr_Rabies2giggity giggity
06:36.23Crevoxthat's the pet version of claw, yet it states druids train
06:36.38Sky2042uh oh..
06:36.39Mr_Rabies2got my http://www.wowhead.com/?item=29264
06:36.44Sky2042what did -I- do now?
06:37.00SkosirisSky2042: you did not spot the most important change
06:37.15Sky2042oh, could it be?
06:37.18SkosirisCrevox: thanks, added to my list of pages to QAize
06:37.42CrevoxThanks
06:37.55Inc`Sko has QA? :O
06:38.05Skosiris'course
06:38.23SkosirisSky2042: try double-clicking the icon on http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=1082
06:38.27Inc`My image of you as a perfect programmer is shattered.
06:38.30Inc`Thanks a lot.
06:38.35Sky2042woohoo!
06:38.37AdysWOOT you added caps back
06:38.43Sky2042happy adys
06:39.17Sky2042random question sko: why do some npcs not have a react to one or the other of the factions?
06:40.08Adysits not been seen
06:40.15Sky2042thought so
06:43.09Skosiriswhat did Sky mean?
06:43.42AdysSkosiris: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=6467
06:43.55AdysReact: H
06:44.18TheOnyxprobably because A hasnt interacted with it
06:44.26AdysYes thats what I said :P
06:45.09Skosirisoh, yeah
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06:47.29Crevoxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=4968 For a mob like this, she appears in Dustwallow Marsh and Hyjal Summit. However, only in Hyjal summit does she react friendly to horde - in dustwallow shes aggressive. Is there a way to distinguish?
06:48.14Adysyes
06:48.31Skosiriswe need to split her in two different npcs: http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Lady+Jaina+Proudmoore
06:48.34AdysCrevox: problem lies here http://www.wowhead.com/?search=jaina+proudmoore
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06:48.39Adysshoo skosiris
06:48.44Sky2042lol
06:48.52Crevoxah
06:49.07CrevoxOkay, my next thing :) http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=23381 the items just say "Cost 1"
06:49.11Miyarioy!
06:49.13CrevoxDo they require an item or something?>
06:49.20Adysyes
06:49.22Adysicon problems
06:49.27Adyssecond time this happens
06:49.28Miyarino ingame item for "soul"
06:49.41Sky2042adys, question
06:49.44Adyssup
06:49.45Crevoxah, I see if it hover over it
06:49.51CrevoxJust no icon
06:49.52Crevox;)
06:49.56Sky2042ack, should be in wowwiki >_<
06:50.30Miyariwhy's the dumb scale of the sands exalted tank ring not up yet :(
06:51.07Adysbecause i couldnt find it
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06:51.07Adysfoud three in a row
06:51.07Adysbut not that one
06:51.07Miyarii've seen it ingame like a bajillion times
06:51.09Miyariall the tanks have the quest for it
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06:51.52AdysEr send your looter data then :P should be added very soon
06:51.58Miyarii have ;o
06:51.59Adyswhats its name?
06:52.02Miyarilike last week
06:52.24Miyariband of the eternal defender
06:53.00Adyswhich server / continent you on?
06:53.10Miyariillidan us
06:53.15AdysBah US
06:53.24Adysgimme a min
06:54.35Crevoxnifty "sells for" in quests
06:54.56Skosiris"Sells for" has been there for a while :P
06:55.19Skosirisbtw you can mouse hover the item names in addition to the icon now
06:55.24CrevoxYeah I noticed
06:55.32Crevoxand it attaches to mouse
06:56.30Crevoxanother nifty feature
06:58.36Adysright i got the ban
06:58.37Adysband
06:58.43Adysban, maybe soon
06:59.23KirkburnI can't reach Gmail :/
06:59.34Adyslemme check kirk
06:59.43Adysits fine here
06:59.53KirkburnI get unexpected response
07:04.02CrevoxBug: When you try to click "Items > Trade Goods > Raw Gems", it leads to http://www.wowhead.com/?items=7.4, which is the start page
07:06.01Skosirisoh, right
07:06.07SkosirisRaw Gems have been replaced with Simple Gens
07:06.09SkosirisGems
07:06.15Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=3.7
07:06.24Skosirislet me remove raw gems from the menu
07:06.32CrevoxOh, nice
07:09.44Skosirisdone
07:10.46CrevoxThanks
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07:22.01Miyariboredededed
07:45.48Adys|sleepgnite
07:47.11Miyarinitenite
07:52.05Tekkuboh fuck me daddy, the new list info view got pushed to live!
07:52.09Tekkub<PROTECTED>
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08:03.58Miyariwah icons are so tiny
08:03.59Miyariim blind
08:04.19Miyariwhy so tiny D:
08:04.28Skosiriswhich ones?
08:04.29Miyarihttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=17771
08:04.33Miyarireagents
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08:05.19Skosirisjust to make room for additional columns :)
08:05.26Miyariso tiny T_T
08:05.39Miyarineed profile customizable "hi i'm blind" checkbox for meh
08:05.49Miyarithat makes everything on the page ginormous
08:06.04Miyarii was having trouble reading the lil numbers on the pictures hehe :x
08:06.14Miyariits been a long day!
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09:08.58Tekkubskos, only complaint... "Source" needs to be more specific... like maybe the "Req. Lv 70" you could do "Drop" \n "Mana-tombs Heroic"
09:09.18Tekkubbut skos logged, buggerfuck
09:15.52Kirkburnhe saw you coming
09:23.25TecnoBratSo there is this guild that used to be on our server called Calibre
09:23.36TecnoBratWe just made a guild called CaIibre
09:23.43TecnoBrat(two i's)
09:24.02TecnoBratand then we took this guy that a friend had his account info
09:24.02Kirkburn:O
09:24.10TecnoBratstriped him naked
09:24.16TecnoBratmade him join CaIibre
09:24.20TecnoBrattook him to org
09:24.27TecnoBratand stuck him in the battlemaster room
09:25.04TecnoBratCalibre was this guild that was known for spamming, being retards . and not really progressing at all
09:25.24TecnoBratits epic laughs :P
09:25.35TecnoBratoh and a pink tabard
09:27.58TecnoBratbtw Tekkub you can do requires level 70 that drops in heroic mana tombs
09:28.17TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?items=2&filter=minrl=70;maxrl=70;cr=106;crs=3792;crv=0
09:30.13Corgango die in a moonfire
09:30.15Corgan:OOO
09:54.29Mr_Rabies2i was once a duck
10:04.23CorganMr_Rabies2
10:04.26Corgan:O
10:08.25Mr_Rabies2quack
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10:09.06Corganwhat's goin down
10:09.07Corgan:O
10:10.34Bleetera witch!
10:10.44Corganburn her
10:10.45Ozmammothburn...her?
10:10.53Corganshe turned me into a newt
10:12.15Mr_Rabies2bleeter
10:12.31Mr_Rabies2if i ever come visit will you cook me up some kangaroo steaks
10:12.48Bleetercould be tricky... but would see what I can do
10:13.04Bleeterfrom memory, only one butcher in tassie is legally allowed to cull/sell roo
10:14.40Mr_Rabies2they're just like big, malformed rabbits, i don't see why they should be restricted :(
10:15.00Corganlol
10:15.16Bleeterthe animal ethecists get all upset about it
10:15.48Bleeterapparently it's all cool for cows, sheep etc. to get imported and fuck up the native environment... but if the native species gets to plague proportions and fucks up the environment, we're not allowed to do much
10:16.04Bleeterapart from listening to american bimbo tourists deplore how cruel it is to kill roo
10:17.33Mr_Rabies2it's not like they're any smarter than cows
10:18.08Mr_Rabies2i don't get all the crazy animal rights activism as long as it's done properly :/
10:18.30Mr_Rabies2my goal in life is to fight and then eat every animal on the earth
10:19.33Corgancats
10:20.16Mr_Rabies2what about them
10:20.22Mr_Rabies2i'm sure they're reasonably easy to fight
10:20.23Bleeterterrible 'musical'
10:20.31Mr_Rabies2compared to say... a kodiak bear
10:20.39Bleeterdepends what size cat
10:21.12Corganraybeez
10:21.14Mr_Rabies2i dunno if there's much more frightening than a kodiak bear looking at you angrily
10:21.21Corgandid you see that the holy grail was found?
10:21.25Mr_Rabies2yes billy corgan of the smashing pumpkins
10:21.25Mr_Rabies2no
10:21.26Bleeter2 kodiak bears..?
10:21.27Corgan!
10:21.28Mr_Rabies2i didn't
10:21.33Corganyou know what i'm talking about tho
10:21.34Corganamirite?
10:21.43Mr_Rabies2no
10:21.44Corganholy grail of porn
10:21.57Mr_Rabies2i have no clue
10:22.02Mr_Rabies2talk in coolpeople
10:22.05Mr_Rabies2or something
10:22.14Corgank
10:23.04Corganbastard
10:23.10Corgandynamix coolpeople
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12:25.07Paradoxis there a macro command to hide the UI?
12:36.01Fisker-dunno
12:36.06Fisker-but you can just use the keybind
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14:06.36ThrissaHi, Just looking for a nice API for wowhead - is this still in the works?
14:06.51Thrissais the nicest way at the moment to just regex out the javascript? :O
14:07.05Thrissafor some item gathering
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14:09.59Fisker-Thrissa
14:10.06Fisker-add &xml to a link
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14:10.33Thrissahot
14:10.34Thrissathanks
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14:35.44Chav12345does the dev team log on during the weekend?
14:53.19Bleeterhmm, I wonder why WoWHead isn't listing [Elixir of Poison Resistance] (and the recipe for same)
14:58.25Bleetercourse, I would upload my looter stats... cept the win32 app blows here... he says... hintingly ;)
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16:09.46Chav12345just busy :(
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16:20.28TheOnyx~skosiris
16:20.29infoboti heard skosiris is the master programmer and slacker on wowhead.
16:20.54TheOnyxinfobot, skosiris is also alone... so very, very alone
16:20.54infobotTheOnyx: okay
16:20.59TheOnyx~skosiris
16:21.00infoboti guess skosiris is the master programmer and slacker on wowhead. alone... so very, very alone
16:22.14Skosirislol
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16:27.27Skosirisinfobot, skosiris is or is he?
16:27.29infobot...but skosiris is already something else...
16:27.34Skosirisinfobot, skosiris is also or is he?
16:27.36infobotSkosiris: okay
16:27.40Skosiris@skosiris
16:27.43Skosiris~skosiris
16:27.44infobotyou are, like, the master programmer and slacker on wowhead. alone... so very, very alone, or or is he?
16:27.48Skosirislol
16:28.41Skosirispix: http://picasaweb.google.com/skosiris/Blizzcon2007
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16:36.33CrevoxHow long does it take for looter data you uploaded to be active/shown on the site? like # of loots on a mob
16:36.43Crevoxor object
16:37.13Skosirisa couple of days
16:37.26CrevoxI see
16:37.27Skosirisdepends on when we decide it's time to process all the data received
16:37.32Crevoxah...
16:37.37Skosiriswe usually do it every 2-3 days
16:39.05TheOnyxSkosiris: Having just got back into the game recently, my UI is decidedly not as tweaked out as it used to be. Suggestions on mods (aside from wowhead looter :P )
16:39.29Skosirissure
16:39.45SkosirisI use almost very few addons, but here is what I use
16:39.51skizmag unitframes, classtimer, cartographer
16:40.10Skosirishttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7017-LightHeaded.html + http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7032-TomTom.html
16:40.39Skosirishttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6887-DoubleWide.html
16:40.40skizmi heard of that lightheaded thing, that's a great idea but i have no idea how it works
16:41.17SkosirisI was also suggested to use http://www.spartanui.com/, but haven't tried it yet
16:41.24skizmand as an alternative to doublewide, there's also framesresized which works on all the frames that look like that instead of just the quest log
16:42.21Skosirisnice, skizm
16:42.23TheOnyxSkosiris: before i quit I was using some ace addon to attempt what spartan does
16:42.30TheOnyxSkosiris: I think I;m goign to try it out
16:42.34TheOnyx(I hate clutter)
16:42.45Skosirissure, let me know what you think
16:42.50SkosirisI might install it if you like it
16:43.00skizmwhat is spartan?
16:43.06Skosirishttp://www.spartanui.com/
16:43.13skizmi don't know why i care lol, i quit over a month ago ;p
16:43.19TheOnyxSkosiris: I'm trying out UI central as well
16:43.39TheOnyxSkosiris: It's supposed to be a way to easily download/install/update mods all at once
16:44.09CrevoxUI Central is good but they don't ever update it
16:44.35Crevoxand it only works with worldofwar.net, which doesn't have everything
16:44.40TheOnyxnod
16:44.46skizmspartan is pretty cool but it seems like they're trying to say it's different from any other ui compilation and it doesn't seem like it is ;p
16:44.47TheOnyxit didnt have a lot of what Skosiris suggested
16:44.49TheOnyx:(
16:45.30Crevoxhttp://wow.curse.com, http://ui.worldofwar.net, http://wowinterface.com
16:45.35skizmi like wowaceupdater for that
16:45.36Crevoxseem to be the best/most updated
16:45.45skizmi only use a couple of addons that aren't ace anyway
16:45.48skizmused...
16:58.57Chav12345huh that spartan is nice
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17:03.14Chav12345hey Skos what is the ball park yall get for Advert?
17:06.31Skosiriswhat do you mean?
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17:07.36skizmhe's asking about how much money you make from ads
17:17.37Skosirisnot sure
17:18.05Skosiristhe ads revenue is no longer mine
17:18.27TheOnyxanyone know if there's a skinning menu to spartan?
17:18.55Chav12345hmm trying to figure out if i want to add add capabilities to something... but not sure if it will be worth it...
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18:54.21shooopAnyone know if the offhand from illidan dropped yet?
18:55.16Sky2042the sword?
18:56.46Sky2042yeah, the sword's dropped. don't ask me for an arm. link
18:57.53shooopWEll i know the main hand azzinot blade have dropped
18:58.00Viprimesome guy in blood legion has both
18:58.02shooopbut the offhand, anyonbe know if it had dropped yet?
18:58.07shooopSERIOUS ? :S WTF!
19:00.07shooopWhat realm?
19:00.23ViprimeUS one
19:00.27shooopok
19:00.31shooopu know the name of it?
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19:02.17IsaliaLoving the recent Wowhead additions :)
19:04.20shooopFuri on illidan realm got both :D pretty imbah tbh :
19:04.21shooop:P
19:08.56IsaliaAnd he's on the ILLIDAN realm. Conspiracy!
19:11.16shooopKinda :D
19:14.48jmesome dude from the same guild talks in here, i forgot his nick
19:17.07shooopOk :P lol
19:19.16IsaliaIf those Warglaives were BoE... I'm sure they'd be very expensive, lol
19:27.07shooopReally >:O
19:27.18shooopi think they will BO for like 200g
19:27.20shooopNooot
19:27.26shooopmabye 20000 g
19:28.26IsaliaWell, they're not THAT imba after all
19:28.29IsaliaThey mainly look cool
19:28.41IsaliaThere are somewhat-comparable alternatives
19:28.48shooopThe set bonus are insane
19:29.40IsaliaMerciless Gladiator's Slicer in mainhand and Quickblade in offhand isn't bad either
19:30.00shooopWEll in PvE the swords are better :D
19:30.03IsaliaBut ok, they lack that amazing haste rating :P
19:30.17shooopYe
19:30.26shooopIts totaly imbah
19:30.39shooopits like more then a half second huh?
19:30.51IsaliaProc + SnD + Blade Flurry = evil
19:31.15shooop:D
19:31.30shooopits 10 more dps on each blade of the Azzinoth compared to the arena 2s
19:31.34IsaliaThrow in an Adrenaline Rush and the enemy will go "wtf?"
19:31.39shooopxD
19:31.48shooopKinda evil :d
19:31.51IsaliaYeah
19:32.36IsaliaToo bad Windfury got a nerf, or it could've been even better xD
19:32.50shooophehe
19:33.45shooopWIth a shaman in Arena i can just imagion the dps if u got good tactics
19:34.07IsaliaHeh
19:34.18IsaliaToo bad most of us will never see those blades :(
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19:34.39IsaliaBut, when WotLK comes out, they'll likely not be that amazing anymore
19:34.47Isaliageif frostmourne
19:36.27shooopWell blizzard are destroying the game tbh
19:36.38shooop:D
19:37.16IsaliaThe lore, indeed
19:37.21shooopPoor Nihilum are the bigges fancy geeks in wow u ever seen with all sponsors and shit, and when WotLK are coming out the simply have to do it all again xD
19:37.34IsaliaTrue
19:38.01Sky2042yeah, but with instances on farm... they can pretty much do whatever they want
19:38.19IsaliaFrom the Frostmourne stats they showed: Equip: The wielder of Frostmourne will become the new Lich King. -- that better not be true :/
19:38.49Sky2042it was a joke :P
19:39.01Isaliahope so xD
19:39.15Isaliaand that the Equip effect was "shot down by various powers-that-be" (illustrating the potential problem with a screenshot of the new Lich King, Private Ownusohard)
19:39.16Isalialol :P
19:39.47IsaliaIt's wayyy too imba anyway, everyone will roll Warrior/Death Knight
19:42.15Isaliaimagine... Use: Summons Arthas Menethil to fight for you. Lasts 60 minutes. Arthas is invulnerable and can resurrect you.
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19:42.29Isaliawhoo. gief
19:46.44Virtushttp://splashgame.org/files/pwnage.jpg << love my orc warrior :D
19:50.34IsaliaWtf is that Tabard? xD
19:51.01shooopWtf Fast Exp server?
19:51.03shooopwhats that m8?
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19:51.24IsaliaOH NOES
19:51.32IsaliaAnd your Rogue is in Hyjal
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19:55.54shooopTell me wtf is it?
19:56.00shooopPrivate Server?
19:58.10IsaliaPretty obvious it is =/
20:01.20alb`you can dualwield Spiteblade right?
20:01.49IsaliaDon't see why you couldn't
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20:02.37Anubisathhey all
20:02.48IsaliaHey
20:03.15Anubisathcan someone confirm or otherwise that the new +80 spell potion on wowhead is what is replacing the arcane fort flask or?
20:03.28Anubisathnot the holy shadow one the other one
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20:10.24AdysAnubisath: link?
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20:24.24PeterLOLHey
20:24.26PeterLOLGot a quick suggestion
20:25.52PeterLOLWith the new tab-category details showing loots, percentage drops, counts and whatnot, it is a bit confusing with longer lists. Even though the column says "%" and "count", i think you should re-add the %-mark after the actual count, just for simplicity.
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20:33.33AdysPeterLOL: got an example?
20:33.41PeterLOLYeah well, one second.
20:34.59PeterLOLthe tabs are; Name, Level, Source, Type, Count, Drop%.. What Im suggesting is to re-add "times" and "%" to the counted drops and percentage
20:35.36PeterLOLIt'd be easier to make out whats what in the list that way, you still get a decent overview of the list that way, without having to scroll all the way up to check what the numbers actually mean.
20:35.58Adyshow about merging the tabs
20:36.04AdysCount: 1234 (75%)
20:36.31PeterLOLYeah, that could also be quite sweet, didnt think of that
20:36.53IsaliaI'd say no to that
20:36.59IsaliaI like being able to sort by percentage and count
20:37.27Adysif an npc has been looted x number of times, sorting by percentage sorts by count aswell
20:37.30Adysyou wont see any difference
20:37.42IsaliaOh, I meant in Item view
20:37.43Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=4424#drops:0-12-11+1 try it
20:37.49Adysoh right
20:39.13AdysDropped by and Drops are different tabs
20:39.23Adysso technically it should be possible
20:39.29IsaliaGood point
20:41.01PeterLOLhow about this
20:41.41PeterLOL"142 times (and under, in slightly smaller text "out of 1532") and then a colon: 16%
20:42.43IsaliaGood idea
20:46.18IsaliaOoh, another suggestion: allow us to search (through items) for which random enchantments exist (so I can, for instance, only find "of the Eagle" items)
20:46.46Adysin the plans
20:47.02IsaliaGreat
20:47.31IsaliaI love the somewhat-subtle improvement lately btw
20:48.31IsaliaLike when browsing through spells that create things, clicking the icon links to the item, not the spell. very handy.
20:48.48Skosiris:D
20:49.05IsaliaxD
20:49.24AdysSkosiris: slacker
20:49.25Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=2288
20:49.35AdysHow is that supposed to work now :P
20:50.05Adysthe icon links to itself :(
20:50.25Isaliaeee, empty reagents cell :P
20:50.26Skosirisclicking the row or the spell name leads to the spell though
20:50.45AdysYea but if the target page is the same as the current page you should put a conditional
20:50.56Adysslacker slacker slacker !
20:50.58Isaliahttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=7280 what went wrong there?
20:50.59Adys~skosiris
20:51.00infobotit has been said that skosiris is the master programmer and slacker on wowhead. alone... so very, very alone, or or is he?
20:51.29Sky2042wait, what?
20:51.40IsaliaIt's [Rugged Leather Pants] btw, but the link doesn't seem to work
20:51.47AdysIll check
20:52.29Skosirishmm
20:52.42Adysprobably a comment
20:52.47Adysrefresh doesnt work, xml seems fine
20:53.26IsaliaOh, you store stuff in XML? that could get nasty if a comment manages to break it xD
20:53.56Adyswhere did you get the link from?
20:54.19IsaliaSpells > Professions > Leatherworking
20:54.37Isaliaaka http://www.wowhead.com/?spells=11.165
20:56.02Isaliasame thing appears to happen at http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5504
20:56.08Adysyeah i see
20:56.11Adystheres alot more
20:56.17IsaliaConjure Water (rank 1)
21:00.59Isaliahttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=5504 too, something must've really gone wrong with these updates :P
21:01.00Isaliaum
21:01.06Isaliacopied wrong lin
21:01.07Isalialink*
21:01.24AdysChecking it out atm
21:01.32Isaliaand closed the tab :P never mind
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21:05.32IsaliaI'm so proud, I made Wowhead "undergo a quick maintenance"
21:05.38Adys:P
21:05.52IsaliaPeople all over the world are screaming in agony now.
21:06.17Isalia"NOOO, now I can't find out how to complete this quest and get my green staff!"
21:06.32Adysrelax itll be back up in a min :P
21:06.37Isaliaxd
21:07.01TecnoBratNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
21:07.06TecnoBratNooOOOOoooOOO
21:07.18Adysits back up ..
21:07.24Skosirisfixed
21:08.22FinalXI've got a WoW-head on top of my own body so I'm not worried... or maybe I should be worried and do more with my life :P
21:08.43Skosirislol
21:09.00FinalXThen again, my wife is just as bad =P
21:14.59AdysStop nodding start writing :P
21:15.06Sky2042truth
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21:18.07xxavalanchexxwhat were those mysterious features being added last night?
21:18.29Adysits a secret!
21:18.46xxavalanchexxI always have to use wowhead when you guys are doing maintenance
21:18.49xxavalanchexxbad timing
21:19.27Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?help=comments-formatting
21:19.50Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?quests=2.133
21:19.54FinalXxxavalanchexx: It were hamsters :P
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21:21.32Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30007
21:21.34IsaliaI'd like to see that too :P
21:21.37Adys(comments)
21:22.03Adysand some other stuff
21:24.21Sky2042sargeras isn't the only to take the title of darkener
21:24.43xxavalanchexxso you updated all of that, but not the under development recently implemented section? :-p
21:24.57PeterLOLhunter weapon!
21:25.00Adys"thats not me sorting this"
21:26.04Sky2042btw, did anyone else notice you can sort comments?
21:26.08Sky2042by rating*?
21:26.26Adysthats exactly what i was pointing out in the link :P
21:26.33IsaliaYeah lol, turned it on by accident
21:26.45Adysyou can also delete your own comments
21:26.51Sky2042LOL
21:26.55IsaliaSurprised me that people were replying to comments AFTER their own
21:26.57Adysand theres no longer the 15 mins limit on edit
21:27.04Sky2042http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=699#comments:id=112374
21:27.05PeterLOLGood!
21:27.10Sky2042it just keeps going up
21:27.14PeterLOLthat will help to clean outdated comments out
21:27.24Sky2042but others can delete!
21:27.56Isaliaooo, you can delete your negatively-received comments, lol
21:28.20Sky2042mods can delete any comments :P
21:28.25Isaliaow
21:29.13Sky2042ahhhh!
21:29.20IsaliaWhat does it mean when a comment heading has a nifty little border around it?
21:29.26Adysits highlighted
21:29.27Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=699#comments:id=132559
21:29.27Sky2042they know we've been editing their comments
21:30.26Adyshighlighted = go to comment
21:30.34Skosiristhe highlighted comment is the comment you are supposed to be interested in
21:30.51Isaliaah
21:31.22IsaliaNeat.
21:32.13Sky2042wait, skosiris, we can delete already deleted also?
21:32.17Sky2042(as mods)
21:32.26Adysdelete already deleted?
21:32.29Sky2042yeah
21:32.42Sky2042LOL
21:32.53Adys.. wait what?
21:32.55FinalXWhy do scriptkiddies always have to mess around on my ircd when I want to go to bed -.-
21:34.16Sky2042wonder what would happen...
21:34.23AdysSky2042: what do you mean?
21:35.30Sky2042go to the bottom of the blades of azzinoth article. on it, you'll see that one with a -1 rating. if you hit delete, it disappears even though it has a negative rating.
21:35.37Sky2042which is probably alright, tbh
21:36.11Sky2042however, that might also mean we can delete comments that are left for context's sake
21:36.22Skosirishmm
21:36.24AdysNo
21:36.25Sky2042i haven't tried with one such comment
21:36.30Adysrefresh the page
21:36.35Skosirisalthough the comment disappears when you Delete it, if it has non-deleted replies it will still show up
21:36.36Adysthe deletion is rejected by the server
21:36.48Sky2042ah
21:36.54Sky2042cool@skosiris.
21:36.55Adysand ive been whining at sko to get a popup when it does that just like ratings :P
21:37.12Skosirisa popup?
21:37.22Adys"Deletion rejected by the server"
21:37.42Adysalert, whatever :P
21:37.46Skosirisit's not rejected :p
21:37.55Adyswell it is
21:37.55Skosiristhe comment is "deleted" but still shows up for the reason mentioned above :P
21:38.08Skosirisif you were to delete all those replies, it would disappear
21:38.20Sky2042oooo
21:38.31Adysbut if you dont, and quit the page, it doesnt
21:38.42Adyswell, hm
21:38.48PeterLOLwhat does the wowhead office building look like
21:38.48Adysactually it'd be hard ..
21:38.58PeterLOLget like a decent "About wowhead" page, with a guided tour!
21:39.03Sky2042lol
21:39.05Skosirislol
21:39.14Skosirisyou want a guided tour of my apartment?
21:39.16Adys<PROTECTED>
21:39.20IsaliaSo when you delete a comment, it's not actually *deleted* from your database? just hidden?
21:39.27Adysya isalia
21:39.29Skosirisyeah
21:39.32Isaliaalright
21:39.34Skosiriswe need to be able to track deletions
21:39.44AdysPeterlol: something like that
21:39.47Adys<PROTECTED>
21:39.52TecnoBratdeleting anything ... is generally a bad idea
21:40.04Adys<PROTECTED>
21:40.09Adyshm, poor ascii art
21:40.24AdysI suck, forgive me
21:40.43PeterLOLi thought there was an actual wowhead developing center!
21:40.50Sky2042how come no item skosiris?
21:40.57Sky2042[item=number]
21:40.59FinalXHeh, sounds like us, we even keep all data of all users who ever existed in our central db :<
21:40.59Sky2042:(
21:41.19Sky2042so does wowwiki, but that's a limitation of the system i think :|
21:41.36Adysall mediawiki wikis with the function enabled yea
21:42.35Adysand while you're at it sky make yourself useful and delete the "this drops there" comments :P
21:42.40Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?user=Teza >>
21:42.45IsaliaSuggestion: Allow us to search for spell types (DoT, AoE, whatever)
21:42.49Sky2042ah
21:42.52Skosirislol
21:42.55Adysisalia thats kinda hard
21:43.06Skosirisisn't Teza the world of raids guy?
21:43.18AdysCurse member
21:43.20AdysWoR dunno
21:43.22IsaliaWell, aren't you already doing similar things? Looking at a spells' effects?
21:43.34Sky2042also, did you notice we can preview now adys ;)
21:43.37Adysits possible isalia, but its hard
21:43.41Adyssky yes I did :P
21:43.49Sky2042pft
21:43.56Sky2042skosiris, get that writeup started
21:43.58Sky2042>:(
21:44.02Skosirison it!
21:44.19IsaliaAdys: Don't see how it'd be that hard; look for a "Radius" attribute in the spell effects, that'd classify it as AoE, no?
21:44.29AdysDepends
21:44.36AdysGimme a sec, isalia
21:44.45Isalia^^
21:44.55TecnoBratAdys, preview what?
21:44.57Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=25392
21:45.02AdysTecnoBrat: comments
21:45.36IsaliaYeah? PoF IS an AoE in a way
21:45.40Sky2042oh jesus
21:45.47Isaliabut I can see how that's confusing
21:46.00AdysWell yes but its more complicated than just putting up simple conditionals
21:46.10Adysyou definetly can, but theres alot more to go through
21:46.17Skosiristhe Radius isn't yet listed in the spell details
21:46.18IsaliaHeh, alright
21:46.26Adysit is skosiris
21:46.28Adysdamn you
21:46.30Adysis the spell a damage spell? is the spell
21:46.33Skosirisrange != radius
21:46.42IsaliaApply Aura: Mod Stat (2)
21:46.42IsaliaValue: 79
21:46.42IsaliaRadius: 100 yards
21:46.48Isalia:S
21:46.51Skosirisoh
21:46.57Skosirisbut spells can have a radius too
21:47.16Skosirisspells with an actual radius, not one in their effects, are probably AoE
21:47.17Sky2042jebus, skosiris, writeup, now!
21:47.21Skosirislol
21:47.33Sky2042leave the channel if you must :(
21:47.36Skosirisshould I make a nice long writeup with pictures?
21:47.49Adysyes!
21:47.59Adyspictures of... wait dutempete aint here
21:48.05Sky2042lol
21:48.14DuTempeteam too
21:48.22DuTempetebetter be saying nice things about me, Adys
21:48.25Adysooh :)
21:48.27Adyshi DuTempete!
21:48.33DuTempetehi Adys!
21:48.39TecnoBratwriteup of what!?!?
21:48.39DuTempeteI'm actually in game, atm
21:48.40AdysHow are you dear?
21:48.41TecnoBrat:P
21:48.59TecnoBratomg writeup@ :P
21:48.59DuTempetewe're raiding Falcon watch
21:49.06Adys:o
21:50.02IsaliaALLIES
21:50.37Adysanyway isalia i can guarantee you there'll be a lot of improvement on spell pages very soon
21:50.52Adysbecause im a really really bad whiner and ive been asking for them since a while ;)
21:51.11Isalia:P
21:51.43AdysSkosiris if you do Spell effect pages now Ill finish this write up of the changes from yesterday :P
21:51.53Skosirislol
21:51.55IsaliaLol xD
21:52.01Skosirislet me concentrate :p
21:52.03DuTempeteSo, how did I get into the conversation, Adys?
21:52.04AdysSounds fair doesnt it :P
21:52.12AdysWell we started talking about pictures
21:52.33Sky2042lol!
21:52.42Adysbrb
21:57.21IsaliaMaybe someone here will have an idea... why is the XP span from 60 to 61 so hugely bigger than the one from 59 to 60? :/
21:58.36Sky2042blizzard wanted it that way :)
21:58.46Sky2042however, you also get something like double the xp ;)
21:59.03IsaliaTrue
21:59.07AdysIsalia: wasnt originally
21:59.12Adyswas increased in the beta
21:59.14IsaliaWell, not if you already went to Outland before that :P
21:59.14IsaliaI see
21:59.41Adysactually was increased three times and reduced once during the BC betas
21:59.51IsaliaxD
21:59.54IsaliaSo indecisive
22:00.27Adysfrom its original scaled value it was increased at the release of the alpha, then increased again in the beta, then increased again, then reduced slightly
22:04.32DuTempetegrrr... they're not @posting us :(
22:04.54Isaliaso anyway, I want to reroll a caster. trying to decide between mage and 'lock xD
22:05.05Adysmage!
22:05.12Isalia:P
22:05.22Adysi lie, mage is best when its your first class
22:05.23DuTempetewe killed their grif master, their quartermaster, their main quest NPC, their inkeepers...
22:05.24IsaliaI like 'locks for their DoTs and mages for their AoE, bah
22:05.34DuTempeteyeah, definitely go lock isalia
22:05.51DuTempetelocks are dreamy :)
22:05.55Adysmages are vastly underpowered on solo content at 70
22:06.10DuTempetemages just suck in general
22:06.16IsaliaI played one once, to about level 20 or so, lol
22:06.20Isalia(lock that is)
22:06.46IsaliaMy main is a rogue btw (cliché, I know), thus either is a vast difference
22:07.14Adysrogue is just as cliché as mage, hunter, warrior or shaman
22:07.17Adysor paladin
22:07.26Adysor warlock actually
22:07.35Sky2042lol
22:07.40Adysin fact, about 1/9th of the wow population plays rogue
22:07.50IsaliaAt least I'm no female night elf hunter
22:07.53Isalia*sigh*
22:08.15Adysits just as cliché as male dwarf rogue
22:08.23Adysor it is
22:08.23Isaliaor a female tauren rogue
22:08.26Sky2042because who wants to play as a female dwarf?
22:08.29Sky2042>.>
22:08.34Isaliaindeed!
22:08.48FinalXi do! .. female dwarf priest
22:08.50FinalXthey're totally lol
22:09.03FinalXalthough i'm now levelling my ud lock :<
22:09.03Sky2042actually, there are certain cliches...
22:09.09Isaliafun thought.. do Shrink effect and Noggenfogger stack?
22:09.13FinalXlol
22:09.17FinalXanyway, bed, nn
22:09.19Isaliagnome + Shrink + Noggenfogger, lol
22:09.38Adysfemale dwarves arent that rare
22:09.40Adysnn FinalX
22:09.42Isalianight
22:09.46Adysfemale dwarven rogues are
22:09.58FinalXim so gonna make one, just for fun
22:10.03FinalXoh right, bed..
22:10.07Isaliatauren rogues are rarer!
22:10.49Isaliaaaanyway... I'd imagine it's fun going into AV as a lock, just throwing around DoTs and watching all the pretty yellow numbers, lol
22:20.13Rawsinfobot, I can pelvic thrust in four dimensions
22:20.14infobotYou can pelvic thrust in four dimensions?
22:25.36Sky2042infobot, raws
22:25.46Sky2042~raws
22:25.52Isaliainfobot is being offensive :o
22:25.55Rawsinfobot fails
22:25.56infobotI fail?  I FAIL?  NO, YOU FAIL!!!
22:26.00Rawsoh sweet jesus
22:26.40Sky2042NOU
22:29.34Isalia* infobot are you to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion
22:29.35Isaliaduh
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22:45.07Skosirislol @ http://www.thottbot.com/?l=latest
22:46.08Sky2042_afkits alright sko, we know you're better than him
22:46.16[dRaCo]totally not fake. seen those items drop in BT!
22:50.36Adysi say they drop from bats in Eastern Plaguelands
22:50.38Adysits rare, but they do
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23:04.24TecnoBratSkosiris, how many ppl try to submit fake items?
23:04.53Skosirisabout three
23:05.02TecnoBratlol
23:05.13TecnoBratI mean ... how often .. I guess I should of said
23:05.36Skosirispretty much every time we process the data received we find some fake items
23:05.41Skosiriswe delete them before they appear on the site though
23:05.43PeterLOLumn, as a rogue, what profession would i be best off with when having mining as 1st?
23:05.46TecnoBratheh. nice
23:06.04PeterLOLthought about blacksmithing for the mace, but then again.. me and vortexes.. no can do!
23:06.22TecnoBratPeterLOL, jewelcrafting, engineering, and BSing would be good choices
23:06.35TecnoBrator you can just go with another collection profession
23:06.37SkosirisTecnoBrat: what about for mages?
23:06.59PeterLOLgot herb with the main, my mage.. dont know really, skinning/lw is popular, but oh so expensive to level up
23:07.10PeterLOLengineering.. meh, only benefit would be deathblow cockblockergoggles
23:07.33TecnoBratBSing would be useless for a mage to use themselves, what do yoiu have so far Skosiris?
23:10.47SkosirisI randomly picked herb and alchemy
23:10.56Adys"randomly"
23:11.00TecnoBratthats not bad for a mage
23:11.20Adys:P
23:11.27TecnoBrattailor / ench, mining / jewel, or herb / alc are all good mage professions imo
23:11.36TecnoBratalso depends on what your other alts already have
23:11.49[dRaCo]I'd choose tailoring/enchanting... boring since everbody's got that, but that set owns until you get your hands on t5
23:11.51Adystailor/ench is a pain to level
23:12.03Skosirisare there any tailor/enchant/jewel self-recipes that are must-have?
23:12.12TecnoBratSpellstrike
23:12.13PeterLOLi went tailoring/herb because of spellfire/shadoweave, then herb to make flasks less expensive
23:12.14TecnoBratfor mages
23:12.15Adysenchant yes at high leve, the ring enchants
23:12.18Adystailor, no
23:12.30Adysjwc .. not really
23:12.34PeterLOLSpellstrike is actually not tailor-bound, which is nice, the setbonus is though
23:12.56[dRaCo]tailoring has spellfire and shadowweave
23:12.58Adystheres this "one" jewel that has 3 more spelldmg than the other versions of it and thats unique equipped
23:13.09Adyswhereas enchanting can enchant both your rings with 12 dmg for a total of 24 dmg
23:13.21Adysthe jewel is replacable, the enchants are not
23:13.27Skosirisso enchanting would be a good choice to get my rings enchanted right?
23:13.27TecnoBratyea, look at spellfire and shadowweave
23:13.38TecnoBratthey are BoP tailor items
23:13.38AdysYes, but only at lvl 70 id say
23:13.42TecnoBratwhich are really nice
23:13.50Adysspellfire/etc i dont like tbh, but thats me
23:14.12Adysalchemy is nice to make some money while levelling, which you can eventually use on getting a new professionlater on
23:14.55PeterLOLEnchanting is also a pain to level up to respectable levels, jewelcrafting is quite easy, but best off compared to mining ofc. My shaman leveled up jewelcrafting with her own mats until like 280
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23:20.08FoOtYhey all :)
23:20.17FoOtYcompliments to the wowhead team!!
23:20.21FoOtYawesome website
23:20.33Skosiris:D
23:20.35FoOtYi do have a question to one of the wowhead team
23:20.43Adysall compliments go to me, skosiris is just a slacker!
23:20.49FoOtYhaha :)
23:20.54FoOtYlol
23:21.00FoOtYcomps to u both
23:21.42FoOtYas you might know, there are alot of awfull private servers around the internet these days. How does wowhead prevent for getting bad data from them?
23:22.11Adyshuman verification, aswell as some simple scripts
23:22.13FoOtYlike from what i read on wow forums they have weird items
23:22.23FoOtYokay thats great
23:22.38FoOtYbon apetit
23:22.45FoOtYis wowhead improving?
23:22.50FoOtYi heard some rumors about it
23:22.55FoOtYabout a big change
23:23.25AdysUhm hope it is yes :P What do you mean?
23:23.56FoOtYi dont know exacly
23:24.03FoOtYi heard a change in design
23:24.11FoOtYand more information available
23:24.27Adysa lot is in the works yes
23:24.54Adysincluding "two mystery features and some other interesting changes"
23:28.59TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32798
23:29.16TecnoBratis the tokens in the quick facts broken for anyone else
23:29.26TecnoBratliek where it has teh AB token for cost
23:29.28Adysyes, will fix that
23:29.30TecnoBratthe icon is not there
23:30.05TecnoBratseems to be on all of them
23:30.13Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=29465
23:30.13Adysya
23:46.45PeterLOLHum, anyone of you know how much 1 strength equals in AP as a rogue?
23:47.19Adyserm
23:47.22Adysone sec
23:47.48Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Strength http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Attack_Power
23:47.53Adys1 str = 1 ap for rogues
23:48.00PeterLOLGreat, thank you
23:48.31PeterLOLUmn, i got some kind of mod, that tell me crit/dodge and stuff. I want to somehow add strength to the conversion, if i knew what mod it was, i bet i could fix it
23:48.57*** join/#wowhead T-Metal (i=Unknown@wnpgmb09dc1-68-45.dynamic.mts.net)
23:49.02Adyscan you give me a screenshot of your UI folder? :P
23:49.08Adysi can try and see if i know any
23:49.48PeterLOLIIRC, could it be it?
23:50.18Adystheres an addon called iirc? :P
23:50.57PeterLOLRatingBuster, has to be it!
23:51.16Adysthat shows rating info inside tooltips
23:51.27Adysthats what you're looking for no?
23:51.27T-MetalAnyone know what wowhead.com is hiring people for? are they redoing the site?
23:51.43AdysYea we're taking over the world T-Metal ;)
23:52.18T-MetalLol, too bad it's only in the states.
23:54.45T-MetalAdys: Are you a developer?
23:57.21Skosiris~adys
23:57.21infobotACTION purrs
23:57.36Adyslol
23:57.56T-Metal...
23:58.08Adys~botsnack
23:58.08infobotAdys: aw, gee
23:58.46SkosirisT-Metal: he
23:58.52AdysInfobot is the only thing thats cuter than kittens :)
23:58.52Skosiris's not technically a developer
23:58.59Skosirislol
23:59.03PeterLOL~sex
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23:59.11T-MetalSkosiris: Is he just an ircop then?
23:59.12Adysyou were warned ^
23:59.26Skosirisadys, what are you?
23:59.27*** join/#wowhead Paradox (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com)
23:59.33Adys~adys
23:59.33infobotwell, adys is not technically a developer
23:59.37Adyssee
23:59.56AdysI think it sums it up, Im not technically a dev :P

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