IRC log for #wowhead on 20070812

00:00.20T-MetalWell what exactly do you do? idle?
00:00.38AdysI do skosiris' job because he's a slacker ;)
00:00.43T-MetalHehe.
00:03.01Adys~ping
00:03.01infobotpong
00:03.08T-MetalDo you both "work" for wowhead.com?
00:03.25Adysskosiris is wowhead's lead developer
00:03.34RawsI heard he likes bacon
00:04.04AdysI don't know about him but I do like bacon
00:04.11T-MetalLol
00:04.36SkosirisT-Metal: pretty much all you are interested in can be found on http://www.wowhead.com/?aboutus
00:04.39RawsI also heard he has Ezekiel 25:17 memorized and cold glocks dudes on thursday nights
00:05.09DuTempeteI bet you wrote that yourself, Sko.
00:05.19SkosirisDuTempete: Tim did.
00:05.35DuTempeteliar.
00:05.41DuTempete=P
00:05.43T-MetalSkosiris: If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
00:05.47DuTempetelol
00:05.56SkosirisI'm 21
00:06.20SkosirisDuTempete: I know the page is pretentious, but I didn't write it :P
00:06.20DuTempeteohhh... interestingly forthcoming. :)
00:06.25DuTempetehehe
00:06.35TecnoBratSkosiris likes Canadian Bacon
00:06.49TecnoBratI mean, he wouldn't be Canadian if he didnt
00:06.51AdysStop hopping beetween people DuTempete, I'm still here, I didn't leave you like this afkirk !
00:06.57TecnoBratI'm sure he eats Poutine also
00:07.10DuTempeteoh, crap... you have a special thanks for Adys.
00:07.13T-MetalSkosiris: How come you guys are only hiring in the MN area?
00:07.18AdysWee
00:07.19DuTempeteYou need to stop inflating the poor boy's ego.
00:07.46SkosirisTecnoBrat: poutine heh?
00:09.16TecnoBratSkosiris, you don't know what poutine is?
00:10.06SkosirisI do, why ? :D
00:10.29TecnoBratOh, I was saying that I bet you eat it :P
00:10.36TecnoBratAlong with Canadian bacon :P
00:10.47T-MetalOur bacon is the best.
00:11.08SkosirisIt's been a while since I last ate one :(
00:11.48Skosirisas for bacon, I don't particularly know where it's from when I eat it lol
00:12.10TecnoBratyea been awhile since I had poutine
00:12.18TecnoBratI could go for some poutine tonight actaually
00:12.22Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&2.184980#14397 people really need to do high resolution screenshots of this kind of thing
00:13.22T-MetalSkosiris: So how come you are only hiring in the MN area?
00:14.04SkosirisI suppose Tim wants all of the newly hired developers to work at some office over there
00:14.23AdysThats his thing, blaming tim for everything
00:14.39T-MetalHaha
00:14.45*** join/#wowhead ScoTTie_ (n=scott@unaffiliated/scottie)
00:15.20T-MetalWell I would have wanted to apply, but then I read that and I was like "Oh.. no point" lol.
00:15.50AdysWhere do you live?
00:15.56T-MetalManitoba
00:16.01TheOnyxI applied anyway. I figured it might be negotiable, and if it's not, I'm not really tied down here
00:16.08TheOnyxso if the offer was right, I'd move
00:16.35T-MetalCoding something like this doesn't require people to be cramped into a cubicle though.
00:16.47Adyswell it says the "ideal candidate" lives there, doesnt say its a requirement :)
00:17.17Skosirisit's easier to manage a group of people, have meetings, etc when everyone is at the same place
00:17.44Adysbut ya you must live around it
00:18.17Adys( /got no clue where Manitoba is, mind my poor french geography)
00:18.18T-MetalHmmm... do you guys get to view the applications or is that Tim's job?
00:18.29T-MetalMiddle of Canada (above North Dakota)
00:19.33TecnoBratI on the other hand, am tied down .. and don't like anywhere near MN :P
00:20.11Adysbut you got +v
00:20.16Adysthats way enough aint it?
00:20.19TecnoBrathaha
00:20.27TecnoBratYea, and I've got not a bad job
00:21.01T-MetalHeh.
00:21.38TecnoBratI get the joy of knowing that I make all of your lives hell showing you ads
00:21.42TecnoBraton the internet
00:21.49TecnoBratthats enough right there
00:21.51T-MetalWell it's hard to prove yourself more capable than others through an email or an application so I just wanted to know if there's a way I could talk to the guy who's actually reviewing applications/interviewing.
00:22.22Adysi believe its malgayne who sorts the job apps actually
00:22.24Adysbut im not sure
00:22.25TecnoBratI dont think I have ever seen Tim in here
00:22.40TecnoBratNah, Malgayne said yesterday they go to TIm
00:23.12T-MetalDo you guys know if all applicants have been basically s*** or not?
00:23.20Skosiriss*** ?
00:23.26Adys***t tbh
00:24.02TecnoBratI'm pretty sure he means shit
00:24.14TecnoBratnot sure why hes blanking it out :P
00:24.18T-MetalAlways nice to be polite in a room you've never been in before.
00:24.22TecnoBrathaha
00:24.32Adysyou can say shit in here dw
00:24.39Skosirisno clue
00:24.41Adysyou also can say "sucks"
00:24.47TecnoBratI've said much worse
00:24.57Adysive kicked for much less
00:25.00Skosirisyour only contact for this is Tim
00:25.02TecnoBrathaha
00:25.18T-MetalIs there any way of personally contacting him that isn't through an email?
00:25.34Adyssms?
00:25.37Adys(couldnt resist, sorry)
00:25.42Skosiristhere sure is, but I suppose he'd rather process all of this through the jobs@ email account
00:25.57Skosiristhere must be a way for you to stand out
00:26.34T-MetalWell I know PHP/MySQL/Javascript/Ajax and C/C++/ASM (not as relevant I don't believe).
00:26.35TecnoBrattime for me to get unlazy
00:28.53SkosirisT-Metal: you need to keep in mind that the email address for this is jobs@zam.com ... *wink* *wink*
00:29.09Skosirisso it might possibly not have to do with Wowhead at all
00:29.47T-MetalThat's true.
00:29.59Skosiris(hence no one where here knows any details on the received submissions so far :P)
00:30.36T-MetalAhhhh, and here I was thinking you were all just being discrete.
00:31.07Thrissaalso it would be inappropriate to discuss that before the recruiting had finished, but maybe thats just me :)
00:31.23Skosiris-where
00:32.36Skosirisso, is there anything you guys don't like about the site? like things that piss you off or anything :p
00:33.13Adysthe slacking webmaster is the only thing I dont like about the site :P
00:33.27Adysthat, until you add spelleffect pages and junk factions
00:33.35Thrissawell, now i know aobut &xml, i like the site much more :D
00:34.29T-MetalSkosiris: I'd give you suggestions/help if I got hired =P other than that, I'm no free-agent =)
00:34.48Skosirispfft :P
00:35.12Skosirisas a site user, your suggestions can only improve your experience
00:35.20Thrissa^
00:35.27Thrissasuggestions are a good thing
00:35.35TheOnyxhaha
00:35.37Thrissaif you and use the site
00:35.40Thrissa-and
00:35.42TheOnyxThat almost sounded like a bribe attempt.
00:35.56Skosirislol
00:36.05SkosirisTheOnyx: feel like questing in Ghostland?
00:36.08Skosirislands
00:36.25TecnoBratSkosiris, what pisses me off is that I can't have weighted filters!
00:36.25TheOnyxSkosiris: I'm on my main on Lothar now, but a bit later I'd be all over it
00:36.26TecnoBrat:P
00:36.52Adyshaha
00:37.21TheOnyxI can guess!
00:37.26Adysmystery filters are a pitiful excuse to having a giant to do list and only two things you actually got time to take care of am I right :P
00:37.29TecnoBratwell, I know what *SOME* are .. but I cheat .. you sent me screenshots :P
00:37.33Adysmystery features, what did i say ..
00:39.15TheOnyxI'd guess that at least one of them enhances the profile to some degree
00:39.45TheOnyxSkosiris is shens!
00:40.46AdysSo skosiris are you taking care of that underdev page :P
00:42.45SkosirisI need to add a couple more features before
00:42.53SkosirisI wouldn't want anyone to be disappointed
00:43.32TheOnyxhaha
00:43.37TheOnyxSuuuuuuure
00:43.47Adysright
00:43.53Adysadd these filters to search pages then :P
00:44.13Adysbeen asking you iit for how long now :P
00:44.36TecnoBratthere we go
00:44.36TecnoBratfinally did the maps for Auchindoun instances
00:44.58TecnoBratamazing what I can do when grandma comes and takes the kid for a couple hours :P
00:49.42Skosirisnow you can add a map on each boss pages
00:49.45Skosirissimilar to http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19044
00:50.17TecnoBratahh yea, thats easy
00:51.34Skosirisoh, and please do this for the bosses in all 4 tempest keep instances: http://www.wowhead.com/?search=tempest+keep
00:51.40TecnoBratewww
00:51.40TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18708
00:51.46TecnoBratthat article is wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwayyyyyyy too long
00:53.22AdysTecnoBrat: shortened it
00:53.39Adysill arrange the whole thing
00:53.42TecnoBratkk
00:53.49TecnoBratI'm gonna continue mapping
00:53.59SkosirisAdys, you removed the Strategy?
00:54.06AdysI still got it :P
00:54.13AdysGonna redo the article
00:56.14TheOnyxI'm collecting Zeppelin debris!
00:56.33Adysyesterday i was approving screenshots of zeppelin debris
00:56.35AdysCOINCIDENCE?!
00:56.50TheOnyxoh
00:56.51TheOnyxidea:
00:56.54TheOnyxI'm lazy
00:56.54TheOnyxso
00:57.02TheOnyxit'd be nice if I coild upload a full screenshot
00:57.07TheOnyxthen crop as part of the upload process
00:57.18TheOnyxrather than have to fiddle with GIMp or whatever
00:58.25TheOnyxalthough i vaguely remember being able to do that somewhere
00:58.27TheOnyxmight be on wowhead
00:58.38TheOnyxit's been like 7 months since i submitted a screenshot
00:58.51Skosirisgive it a try
00:59.05TheOnyxI'm busy colelcting parts!
00:59.55Skosirishow about you take a screenshot of these parts :P
01:00.09TheOnyxdo we need a screenshot of the parts?
01:02.48Skosirisnot really
01:02.53Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&2.183394#31564
01:02.57Skosiriswe could use one from a different angle though
01:04.48Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18708 there you go
01:04.59Adysremoved everything unneeded
01:05.06Adysreworded tips and abilities
01:05.11TheOnyxSkosiris: Adys: submitted 2 shotts :P
01:05.19TheOnyxSkosiris: I like the interface, BTW
01:05.32TheOnyxSkosiris: as always, you manage to make it fast and user-friendly
01:05.41Skosiriscropping shots is a lot of fun
01:05.59Adysi crop them in photoshop and use full cropping
01:06.08Adysits more accurate
01:06.30TheOnyxI've developed a workflow that optimizes screencaps
01:06.36Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/images/screenshots/31683.jpg haha thats awesome
01:06.36TheOnyxI shared my screenshot folder on the network
01:06.50TheOnyxso i can cap, go to wowhead on another comp, upload, crop, submit
01:07.04TheOnyxspecial thanks to Synergy
01:07.39Skosirisnice one Adys
01:07.41Skosiriswhat page is it on?
01:07.57Adysfilmsy male troll mask
01:08.12Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=20568
01:09.40TheOnyxAdys: Screenshot critiques?
01:10.01Adysfirst one was badly uploaded or something
01:10.08Adyscould only see a yellow thing in the middle :P
01:10.27TheOnyxI believe that yellow thing was probably the piece of debirs
01:10.47Adyshttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965646786&sid=1&pageNo=1
01:12.39TecnoBratAdys, MUCH better
01:12.54Adysya
01:14.25TecnoBratSkosiris, all of the maps are done :)
01:15.44TecnoBratAdys ...
01:15.45TecnoBrat...
01:15.49TecnoBratI dont know what to say
01:15.51Skosirisall!
01:16.26SkosirisTecnoBrat: erm, you forgot to add a note about the npc's location in your articles, e.g. http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18667
01:16.36AdysTecnoBrat: what is it :P
01:17.06TecnoBratAdys that forum post...
01:17.11Adyshaha
01:17.37Adyshttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=450455529&sid=1#7
01:17.42Adysthat was linked on my realm forum
01:24.14Skosirisread my earlier message :p
01:24.29TecnoBratI'm not sure what you mean actually
01:25.08*** join/#wowhead Losnar (n=Losnar@adsl-070-145-185-201.sip.jax.bellsouth.net)
01:25.35Skosiriswhen you add an article, it actually replaces the "This mob can be found in ..." part
01:25.47Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18708 <-- this one is ok as it states where the npc is located
01:25.48TecnoBratOh shit ... k, I see .. hmmm
01:25.50TheOnyxLosnar: Took you long enough :P
01:25.53*** join/#wowhead GaZ-__ (i=GaZ@cpe-72-185-49-219.tampabay.res.rr.com)
01:26.02Skosirissee this one: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19710
01:26.12TecnoBratAhh yes, I see
01:26.14LosnarTheOnyx: diaf punk
01:26.16TecnoBratI'll fix em
01:28.37BleeterSkosiris: oh good, you're about... wowhead doesn't have the recipe or the item [Elixir of Poison Resistance]
01:28.59BleeterSkosiris: I would upload it, but the app barfs in Linux ;)
01:29.00CrevoxNo matter how many times we see it either
01:39.37SkosirisBleeter: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3386
01:39.40AdysBleeter: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3394
01:39.44Adysgo awai
01:39.44Skosiris(recipe: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3394)
01:39.54Skosirislol
01:40.15Skosirisok I admit it, Adys is actually me on another computer
01:40.28Adysok I admit it, Skosiris is actually me on another computer
01:42.22Adysinfobot, skosiris?
01:42.23infobotSee ~Adys
01:42.27Adys<nod>
01:45.53TecnoBratfixed it Skosiris, sorry bout that
01:45.59Adysnp
01:46.13TecnoBratgo away Adys! :P
01:46.18Adys:P
01:46.43TecnoBrato.O Adys
01:46.44TecnoBrathttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965527619&postId=9654310209&sid=1#0
01:46.55*** join/#wowhead avehkai (n=matt@203-206-228-189.dyn.iinet.net.au)
01:47.02Adyswth is that
01:47.11TecnoBrataddon to the one you posted
01:47.14TecnoBratsame guy
01:47.54Adyslol
01:48.00Adyslol at the third guy
01:51.15TecnoBratI also wanted to add, if you think you were the only guy that got to have some "Private Time" with my wife because you are special...you are wrong. There are 3 that I know of.
01:51.16TecnoBrathahaha
01:51.28Adyslmao
01:51.41Skosirislol
01:58.54*** join/#wowhead Chav12345 (n=huot32@mail.tricycleinc.com)
02:00.57BleeterSkosiris: that's not it's name on Live :P
02:01.09Adyswill fix that
02:01.32TecnoBratIsn't it being renamed on test?
02:01.35TecnoBratI think
02:01.38TecnoBratMaybe I'm wrong
02:01.54AdysMaybe
02:02.08TecnoBratbecause its not an elixir
02:02.12Adysill check now
02:02.23Bleeterindeed, neither does it give you 'resistance'
02:02.27TecnoBrat(you know, the whole 2 elixirs max)
02:02.59Adyswondering why they didnt rename http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=3182 then
02:03.27TecnoBratno idea
02:03.58Adysya its the correct name
02:04.04Adysworking as intended
02:04.11Adys(always dreamed to say that)
02:04.14Bleeterso PTR is considered authoritative?
02:04.21Bleeterwhack
02:04.26Adysfor simplicity's sake yes
02:04.54TecnoBratI can understand why they are changing it
02:08.14Bleeterit'd be nice if there were a flag 'ptr', and a link explaining 'this is from PTR, and may change (but hopefully not)'
02:08.35Adyswe got something like that planned
02:08.51Bleetercool, it'd possibly be easier than tracking revisions and build versions, etc. ;)
02:09.09Adysits whats planned tbh :P
02:10.58Chav12345MMMM planning... yes we all love to plan..
02:11.34Chav12345sorry for butting in :(
02:14.17Adysyay
02:14.21Adysraining in wetlands
02:18.03TecnoBratAdys, comments, I added : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3386
02:18.39Adyswont help too much searching it
02:18.45Adysbut ya good idea temporarly
02:18.45TecnoBratoh true
02:19.05Adysbut IF skosiris did his stuff right...
02:19.16Adysand if i whined well enough
02:19.32Skosiristhe sentence is missing a period :P
02:19.35Adyswe *should* have at some point item change histories
02:19.47TheOnyxItem change histories?
02:20.20TecnoBratAll Time
02:20.22TecnoBrat*
02:20.24TecnoBrattecnobrat - 195 edits
02:20.26TecnoBrat*
02:20.27Adyssay an item got its stats modified in a patch
02:20.28TecnoBratSkosiris - 128 edits
02:20.30TecnoBratowned
02:20.31TecnoBrat:P
02:20.37Skosiris:P
02:20.41Adysshould be able to compare them
02:20.51TheOnyxQuality, not qantity!
02:23.07TecnoBratSo Skosiris, when you get beta keys for the expansion .. just remember all of the edits .. kk? :PP
02:23.31AdysIve got pixels to whine about, personally
02:23.45Adys(see what I did there?!)
02:23.56TecnoBratpixels?
02:24.01TheOnyxI ended up winning a beta key for BC from wowhead
02:24.03TheOnyxI never used it
02:25.08SkosirisAdys, how come you didn't manage to get a beta key?  http://www.wowhead.com/?contest=the-biggest-helper
02:25.20Skosirisall you had to do was to submit screenshots, which you are good at
02:25.33Adysbecause wowhead's database sucked so much by then that i was using thottbot's ;)
02:25.42Adys<grin>
02:26.00TheOnyxthere's only one way it was gonna get any better!
02:26.05Adysim being mean actually, i was already using wowhead
02:26.17TheOnyxIf you're not part of the solution, you're part of the suck.
02:26.28Adysare you part of the solution?
02:26.33TheOnyxI am!
02:26.37Adysright
02:26.40TheOnyxI submitted screenshots!
02:26.47AdysI deleted them
02:26.53TheOnyxAlso I am a comment moderating champion
02:26.55TheOnyxyou LIE
02:26.59AdysI can delete that too
02:27.00Adyslol
02:27.11AdysI got my BC beta key from wowinterface
02:27.18Adyspretty addon "EnchantBot"
02:28.18AFKDuTempeteWhatever happened to the new wowhead logo, Skosiris?
02:29.08Chav12345Adys probably deleted it :P
02:29.11Adyslol
02:29.13Adyswas gonna say
02:29.27TheOnyxyeah
02:29.27AdysI even send screenshots of deleted stuff
02:29.28Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&6.37244#21659
02:29.31Adyshow leet is that?
02:29.38TheOnyxI remember you guys having a lgogo contest before I quit wow
02:29.41TheOnyxlogo is still the same
02:29.45TheOnyxO_o
02:30.10Chav12345obviously submissions sucked
02:30.12Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?contest=wowhead-logo-contest
02:31.08SkosirisTheOnyx: don't worry about your screenshots, Adys couldn't delete anything back then
02:31.19Adysyea but i can still delete old screenshots
02:31.22Chav12345Retroactive admin
02:31.28Adys=]
02:31.40Viprimecurrent logo is better
02:31.53AdysBut it looks like a ..
02:31.56Adysnevermind
02:32.00Adysnot gonna bring that up again
02:32.01TheOnyxhrrmm
02:32.01Chav12345penis
02:32.06Chav12345i'll say it :P
02:32.07TheOnyxI think I'll make up a logo
02:32.09TheOnyxand submit it
02:32.13TheOnyxeven trhough the contest is over
02:32.20TheOnyxsince none were good enough to get a logo change
02:32.28Viprimewell you could make that joke about the site name too
02:32.30Chav12345branding is a funny biz
02:32.42AdysSubmissions should be sent to (e-mail address removed).
02:32.46Adysyou lose TheOnyx  :P
02:32.49Skosirislol
02:32.51TheOnyxplease
02:32.54TheOnyxi got hookups
02:33.03Chav12345Adys@wowhead.com ?
02:33.53Adysnot a bad idea, aint it sko :P
02:34.10Chav12345would that = payroll?
02:34.28Adysi want adys@gmail.com
02:34.39TheOnyxthen register
02:34.39Adysbut google wants 6char min
02:34.43Chav12345lol
02:34.47Adys:/
02:34.48Chav12345yeah i've had that prob
02:35.01TheOnyxTheAdys
02:35.03TheOnyxnod
02:35.07Chav12345Adys..
02:35.16Adysadys..@gmail.com doesnt work
02:35.20Chav12345Adys..@gmail.com should work
02:35.33TheOnyxTheAdys@gmail.com
02:35.35Chav12345you can do d.dddklsj@gmail.com
02:35.39BleeterMrAdys@
02:35.52BleeterLordAdys
02:35.53Adysadysdk
02:35.57Skosirisadddys@gmail.com
02:35.58Chav12345Adys has to be a girl
02:35.58TheOnyxaydeez
02:36.10BleeterAdysDaHo?
02:36.12Adysthey dont accept more than three identical chars following sko
02:36.21AdysBy the way skosiris..
02:37.01Chav12345Why the hell does my office have the ac on full blast ... its cold!!!
02:37.17Skosirishow about you guys help me find a nice 3rd prize for our next contest
02:37.18*** join/#wowhead Paradox (n=Paradox@spc1-brmb4-0-0-cust10.bagu.broadband.ntl.com)
02:37.28AdysDuTempete
02:37.33Adysthat'd be a nice third prize.
02:37.33Skosirissomething that is worth around $50 , get started -> http://www.amazon.com/
02:37.45TheOnyxwas are 1st and 2nd?
02:37.46Adys50 dollars you're cheap
02:37.54SkosirisTheOnyx: can't tell
02:38.02Skosiris$50 for a 3rd prize is pretty good :P
02:38.04TheOnyxwell then i have no idea what theme to follo
02:38.04TheOnyxw
02:38.15Bleeter1) night out with Adys 2) night out with Skosiris 3) night out with Adys and Skosiris
02:38.19Skosirisit can be anything a WoW player will find useful
02:38.27Chav12345HOLY SHIT I GOT IT >>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/8a0f/
02:38.34Chav12345not amazon but i want one
02:38.36Adysare there gfs for 50 dollars?
02:38.43Chav12345and its cheaper
02:38.45Adysmost wow players could find it useful
02:38.54BleeterAdys: depends which SE Asian country your in, I believe
02:39.10TheOnyxSkosiris: give me 5 minutes when im not playing wow and i cpould probably find ou a decent prose
02:39.11AdysChanServ: lol wtf
02:39.16AdysChav12345: even
02:39.21SkosirisTheOnyx: my first idea, when I thought we only had a 5 bucks budget for the 3rd prize, was this:
02:39.21Skosirishttp://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Trading-Card-Game/dp/B000P9ETMG/ref=sr_1_3/104-3545939-3868743?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1186886345&sr=8-3
02:39.43Adyslol
02:39.43Chav12345?
02:39.46Bleeterthinkgeek ftw
02:39.56TheOnyxSkosiris: I would avoid trading cards
02:39.58Chav12345dude that missle launcher is crazy
02:40.12Chav12345i can program it to my wii remote to drill my boss
02:40.22Chav12345god i need a life :(
02:40.41BleeterChav12345: I take your rocket launcher, and raise you a http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/8530/
02:40.58Skosirislol
02:41.30Bleeterdesktop seige weapons ftw
02:41.31Chav12345but is it powered by the PC... if i have to touch it doesn't count
02:42.04Bleeterheh, now I know how to take over chav's office space... just cut the building's power
02:42.12TheOnyxSkosiris: what about a gift card for wow shirts on jinx?
02:42.15TheOnyxor something
02:42.29Chav12345we thought of that... boss then bought us laptops...
02:43.07Chav12345<PROTECTED>
02:43.23TheOnyxno, ,opre like 3 :P
02:43.30Chav12345er?
02:43.33SkosirisI don't think we would want to give jinx tshirts that we would have paid
02:43.41Skosirisfree advertising w/o getting anything in return :P
02:43.46TheOnyxk
02:43.46TheOnyxwell
02:43.50Skosirisif we were to give jinx tshirts, they would need to be sponsored ;)
02:43.50TheOnyxSkosiris: just pick 3
02:43.51TheOnyxbuy them
02:43.54TheOnyxthen offer them
02:45.43*** join/#wowhead winkiller (i=fa@phobos.art-core.org)
02:45.53Chav12345http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-MX518-Gaming-Optical-Mouse/dp/B0007Z1M50/ref=pd_bbs_5/104-0019318-5829566?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1186886725&sr=8-5
02:46.17Adyshardware kind of sucks in my opinion
02:46.28Adysapart when its amazing graphic card / monitors etc
02:46.32TheOnyxnod
02:46.46*** join/#wowhead Zarnox (i=zarnox@c-67-174-29-123.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
02:46.54Chav12345ummm...
02:47.44Chav12345so i just IM'd my co-worker how something works (cuz he broke it and left, bastard) and his reply Yep... then logs..
02:47.48Chav12345*sigh*
02:48.03TheOnyxpre-paid card is aslo good
02:48.08Chav12345i hate pre-paid cuz it screws up my CC
02:48.24Adyswhat chav said
02:48.31Chav12345<< Genius
02:48.39Chav12345adys i like having you around
02:48.51Adysi can kick you from this channel
02:48.58Chav12345*sigh*
02:49.02Viprimewhy would you call yourself a chav
02:49.09Adyshttp://www.bxd.dk/irc/wowwiki.html
02:49.12Chav12345LOL
02:49.20AdysAdys is either insane or just a fair op, kicking a total of 107 people!
02:49.21Chav12345shrug...
02:50.19Chav12345why do you call your is Viprime "King of pink fluffy pigs"
02:50.33Chav12345mmm fluffy pigs
02:50.39*** join/#wowhead GM-Mystique (i=Mystique@c-24-9-26-198.hsd1.co.comcast.net)
02:50.42Chav12345MMMMM ham
02:50.47Chav12345mmmmMMMmmmmm bacon
02:50.48Viprimeand whats wrong with fluffy pigs
02:50.49*** join/#wowhead Crevox (i=zarnox@c-67-174-29-123.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
02:50.59Viprime'cos there's alot wrong with chavs!
02:50.59Chav12345wait what?
02:51.09Chav12345naw you just don't know them well enough
02:51.26Chav12345chav's are like fluffy pigs but in plaid
02:51.33Chav12345and silly hats
02:51.44BleeterAdys: looking at http://www.bleeter.id.au/irc_stats/wowwiki.html I'd say yer insane :P
02:51.53Adys:D
02:52.52ViprimeMike-N-Go_ wrote an average of 53.00 words per line.
02:52.52ViprimeChannel average was 6.55 words per line.
02:52.57Viprimelol
02:53.05Viprimethat's quite a poor average :P
02:53.15TheOnyxI LIKE PICTURES
02:54.03SkosirisBleeter: when do we get a wowhead stats page by Bleeter?
02:54.34BleeterSkosiris: in about three minutes :P
02:54.45TheOnyxWoo
02:54.49Bleeterthough I ain't been in the # long
02:56.37Mystique_dammit
02:56.55Djjinnbetter?
02:57.37Djjinnok so should i finish the search dialog tonight or crash and do it tomorrow?
02:57.50Djjinnsorry for the rambling but no one else is here
02:58.03T-MetalI am. =)
02:58.05AdysoO
02:58.16Bleeteractually, make that about 30 mins... just missed the last run of the stats script
02:58.18Djjinnerrr here as in here not here as in here
02:58.42T-MetalBah, who cares.
02:58.56TecnoBrathttp://wow.tecnobrat.com/ircstats/wowhead.html
02:59.27DjjinnWINNER >> TecnoBrat
02:59.47BleeterTecnoBrat's logs go back further than mine, too
03:00.02Skosiris!
03:00.22BleeterI only joined this channel two weeks ago to bitch about the uploader app :P
03:00.27TheOnyxnice
03:00.31Skosirislol
03:00.43Djjinnlol
03:01.02Adyshehe
03:01.13TheOnyxdang, I'm 7th?
03:01.20Skosirislol sky
03:01.22Skosiris"Spoilers: Infinity-X kills Skosiris on page 412."
03:01.26TheOnyxI havent actually been in the chan for a week yet
03:02.01Adysa lot of people idle here
03:02.07Djjinn<<< not idle
03:02.09Djjinn:D
03:02.43Adysim an evening chatter!
03:02.50RawsI just realized I really need to craft aluminum foil underwear
03:03.12Adysyou trying to get yourself quoted in that page? doesnt work quite like that
03:03.49*** topic/#wowhead by Skosiris -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel. Be civil, friendly, and read the channel rules at http://www.wowhead.com/?irc - Enjoy your stay! - Statistics: http://tinyurl.com/2jb38r
03:04.06Rawsno, no, I am well acquainted with the randomness of pisg
03:04.19RawsI just need to make myself some tin toil underwear
03:04.22Rawss/toil/foil
03:04.28Viprimeonly 30 more lines till top 31!
03:04.39*** topic/#wowhead by Skosiris -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel. Enjoy your stay! - Rules: http://www.wowhead.com/?irc | Statistics: http://tinyurl.com/2jb38r
03:04.46*** topic/#wowhead by Skosiris -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel. Enjoy your stay! - Rules: http://www.wowhead.com/?irc | Statistics: http://tinyurl.com/2jb38r
03:04.55Rawsoh, hey, those aren't generated by pisg at all
03:05.05*** topic/#wowhead by Adys -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel. Enjoy your stay! - Rules: http://www.wowhead.com/?irc | Statistics: http://tinyurl.com/2jb38r | Hunter weapon!
03:05.25TecnoBratRaws, haha no, its not
03:05.28TecnoBratits using mircstats
03:05.58Skosiris:(
03:06.34TheOnyx:(
03:06.44TheOnyxI'm gonna go to wow wiki
03:06.52TheOnyxand replace all text on pages
03:06.53TheOnyxto
03:06.54Adysi can kick there too
03:06.57TheOnyxHUNTAR WEPPPON
03:07.15TheOnyxSUM IRC OPS IS KICKRZ
03:07.16*** topic/#wowhead by Skosiris -> Welcome to the official Wowhead channel. Enjoy your stay! - Rules: http://www.wowhead.com/?irc | Statistics: http://tinyurl.com/2jb38r
03:07.25Adys:(
03:07.33AdysTheOnyx: http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&user=Adys :D
03:08.11TheOnyxAdys: Yes, you're power-hungry. I get it.  :)
03:08.20Adysbwaha
03:08.41Adyswhen ill work at blizzard watch out for your account
03:09.03Adysin ur enterprise bannin ur customarz
03:09.23TheOnyxIN UR ACCOUNTS STEALIN UR GOLDZ
03:09.39Adyshttp://adys.stools.net/random/inurakount.jpg
03:09.55Adysgot it since its been published for the first time /proud
03:10.00Viprimeso you have power on wowikki
03:10.00RawsDetailed IRC stats = awesome
03:10.12Viprimecan you see who edited what?
03:10.14Raws83% of the time in the past three months, there have been 0 lines per day spoken
03:10.17Adysi got power everywhere viprime
03:10.18Viprimeguessing you can
03:10.38Viprimehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Server:Twilight's_Hammer_Europe
03:10.41AdysViprime: http://www.wowwiki.com/Special:Recentchanges :P
03:10.46Viprimewho wrote "Komodo, the sexiest male Night Elf on the server."
03:10.55Viprime'cos like
03:10.57Viprimethats my char name
03:10.59Adysbah : http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server:Twilight%27s_Hammer_Europe&action=history
03:11.01Viprimeand i didnt write it
03:11.27Viprimeyeh that doesnt tell me
03:11.50Adyshttp://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Server%3ATwilight%27s_Hammer_Europe&diff=722581&oldid=709643
03:12.58Viprimepff
03:13.05Viprimei dont know who Zowe is ingame
03:13.13Viprimego find outs mr i got power everywhere
03:13.34AdysLike I can :P
03:23.45Bleeterhere yaz go http://www.bleeter.id.au/irc_stats/wowhead.html
03:23.53Bleeteras I said, ain't been in here that long, bugger all logs
03:25.09Adysyou just said "wtf"
03:25.13TheOnyxIt seems that theonyx's shift-key is hanging:  4.6% of the time he/she wrote UPPERCASE.
03:25.14TheOnyxFor example, like this:
03:25.14TheOnyx     <TheOnyx> CAT DRUID NO IS 4 HEEL
03:26.01*** join/#wowhead Jagna (n=Matchb0o@74-34-27-227.dr01.rsmt.mn.frontiernet.net)
03:26.30PeterLOLby the way
03:26.44Jagnaso that ad on wowhead is pretty annoying
03:26.48PeterLOLis there any info on the instance behind bars in stormwind?
03:26.56PeterLOLbeen there forever, noone seems to know shit about it
03:26.58TheOnyxsweet
03:27.00Adyscheck for Stormwind Jail on WoWWiki
03:27.03AdysJagna: which one?
03:27.07TheOnyxbleeter's script tracks karma
03:27.12TheOnyxBleeter++
03:27.20Jagnaumm the car one?
03:27.31Jagnasome guy talking
03:27.34Adyswhere do you live? (country)
03:28.08BleeterPeterLOL: I seem to recall some mumblings about it, can't recall specifics. you'd be better off asking in #wowwiki, methinks
03:28.17Jagname?
03:28.24Adysyes
03:28.28Inc`Localized advertising, nifty
03:28.29JagnaUnited States
03:28.53BleeterLocalised advertising is dumb. I get ads to go shop at places in a town 3500km's away
03:32.46TecnoBratthats geoip for you
03:33.02TecnoBratthe reason is that your isp has registered the IP block you are on to that city
03:36.08Bleeterno, the reason is the only ISP who was prepared to meet my requirements at a fair price was 3500km's away.
03:36.21TecnoBrator, that would do it too.
03:36.34TecnoBratcountry targetting is pretty accurate ... city, state, DMA, and zip can be dodgy
03:36.45Bleeterand from my best testing, it only adds about 20-30ms latency onto my connection
03:37.21TecnoBratwhy did you have to do that, btw?
03:37.28Bleeterthere's something entirely satisfying about being able to text my ISP's senior admin 'wtf my interwabz broak' and get a reply
03:38.14Bleeter'coz broadband in australia is totally ... fucked
03:38.18TecnoBratI have been with the same ISP for 5 years now
03:38.34TecnoBratand I've had 1 night where it was shit .. 500 ping to wow
03:38.44TecnoBratcause of a bum router on the mainland
03:38.56Bleeterif you live outside the big five capitals, it's a complete joke
03:39.24TecnoBratI live on an island
03:39.30Bleeterme too
03:39.31TecnoBratgranted, its a large island, but still
03:40.13TecnoBrathttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancouver_Island
03:40.58Bleetersame... random useless fact #3425.. Tasmania is somewhere near 26th biggest island in the world
03:41.22Bleeterfrom memory, 22nd don't just count the main island
03:41.27Bleeter*if you don't
03:41.42TecnoBrat"it is the world's 42nd largest island"
03:41.57TecnoBratfor van island
03:42.06Bleeter43rd according to wikipedia's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_islands_by_area
03:44.29TecnoBratyar
03:45.31PeterLOLanyone of you using bongos?
03:45.55PeterLOLcant get my actionbar to separate stealth-only abilites from non-stealth
03:46.10PeterLOLor.. my bongos doesnt switch actionbars between stealth and non-stealth mode
03:46.39Sky2042there's prolly an faq on curse; you tried that yet?
03:46.54Sky2042or, there might be one in the readme file that's usually incuded.
03:47.33PeterLOLIf so, should be mentioned in the options imo, since 50% of the people play rogue nowadays :<
03:47.56Sky2042not really
03:48.05Sky2042more about 17%ish
03:50.43Sky2042actually, peterLOL, numbers of Rogues are in the 12%
03:50.45Sky2042area
03:50.58Sky2042http://www.warcraftrealms.com/quickstats.php
03:51.14Adysbecause warcraftrealms stats are just so accurate
03:51.29PeterLOLYes well, i think the stealth-mode-bar should be auto, dont know if it is by default or if i somehow managed to screw with mine
03:51.31Sky2042when you have hundreds of servers represented, yes
03:51.35Sky2042@adys
03:51.55Adysnot really, counting the number of bad data, transfers, unplayed alts, whatever
03:52.15Sky2042unplayed alts: players fall off the tables after 30 days of inactivity
03:52.23Sky2042bad data doesn't happen ;)
03:52.26Sky2042transfers, though.
03:52.31Adysbad data does happen
03:52.36Sky2042eh
03:52.45Adysfor having contributed to wcrealms for a LONG time i can tell you bad data is more than frequent
03:52.49Adysits just stealthier
03:53.00Sky2042variability is near 0 anyway, at the size of the samples. that i can assure you.
03:53.33Adysyou cant assure me anything if you dont have blizz's official numbers :P
03:53.46Sky2042yeah, but patterns/trends ftw ;)
03:53.47Adyswcrealm is nice to see general tendencies, differences beetween servers etc
03:53.52Adysbut stats.. no way
03:53.58Sky2042and classes are a general tendency, no?
03:54.04Adysnot really
03:54.07Sky2042sure they are
03:54.47Adysthe problem sky is when you go on one realm or when you go worldwide
03:55.09Adyson one realm, stats of a specific class are just not showing anything special, apart from the specific realm's stats
03:55.15Adysthese can be more or less accurate
03:55.36Adyson multiple realms, it goes downhill very fast
03:55.49Adysdue to realms not being properly checked etc
03:55.58Sky2042ehhhh, true
03:56.41Sky2042personally, i would understand your babble if i had gotten more specific than class... :|
05:04.25*** join/#wowhead NERG (n=bryndb@58.28.193.215)
05:04.32NERGhey guys
05:04.38NERGanyone no how to do toreks assault
05:04.41NERGits not working
05:04.45NERGjust keeps failing
05:05.11NERGeven though i seem to be doing evrything correct
05:06.07Losnardoes Torek die when you are doing it?
05:07.12NERGno
05:07.18NERGlike he just stands in the outpost
05:07.20NERGand then it says failed..
05:09.32Losnarodd, once inside the night elf building you should fight a named night elf commander. then once he/she is dead you should have to speak with Ertog in Splintertree
05:09.36NERGany ideas? im doing it now
05:09.59NERGtheres no1 called elf commander
05:10.17Losnarthe commander is named Duriel Moonfire
05:10.34NERGnot here
05:10.36NERGim waiting now
05:11.09T-MetalSkosiris: Are you around?
05:11.15NERGwat
05:11.21LosnarIf Duriel is not up then that maybe why the quest is failing
05:11.31NERGso
05:11.35NERGshould i look for duriel
05:11.38NERGb4 i start quest
05:11.45NERGkill him and wait for him to respawn in house ?
05:12.00Losnaryes verify that the mob is there then start the quest with Torek
05:12.12Losnaryou have to kill Duriel with Torek
05:12.30NERGkk
05:15.18NERGlooks like its a bugged quest
05:15.21NERGthanks for help
05:15.38SkosirisT-Metal: yeah
05:16.31T-MetalSkosiris: When did you guys change your item list format?
05:16.38T-MetalBefore you had it all in one crazy JS variable.
05:17.10Skosirisplease elaborate
05:17.22T-MetalCan I PM you?
05:23.10NERGanyone here play on Blackrock Server ?
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05:46.50*** join/#wowhead Melvin (n=melvin@76.211.11.207)
05:48.55MelvinYo.
05:49.00TheOnyxAhoy
05:49.15MelvinIdlers >_<
05:55.13*** join/#wowhead bibibibi (n=kahjsdkh@modemcable155.156-83-70.mc.videotron.ca)
05:55.17skizmthat's what irc is
05:55.18*** mode/#wowhead [+o mystadio] by ChanServ
05:57.44AdysIdling Ruthlessly in Channels?
05:58.14Sky2042lol
06:06.07RiauWTB !!!
06:08.03Mystique33lol
06:20.01Skosirishell yeah: http://web.archive.org/web/20051230164438/http://www.wowhead.com/
06:20.21Adys*
06:20.21AdysPlease send your suggestions, comments, and
06:20.21Adysfeature requests at talent@wowhead.com
06:20.44Adys<PROTECTED>
06:21.25Adyshttp://web.archive.org/web/20060104225948/www.wowhead.com/talent/include/
06:21.28Adyshow awesome is that
06:21.54Adysso what does "Wowhead's World of Warcraft" mean exactly?
06:22.25Skosirisit didn't change much  ;)   http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=embed
06:22.34Adysya
06:22.55Adysdoesnt answer my question tho :P
06:23.02Skosirisdoesn't mean much lol
06:23.14SkosirisWowhead has always been the site's name
06:23.22Skosiris"Wowhead's World of Warcraft" was just a weird way of saying "Wowhead, a World of Warcraft site"
06:23.34Adys><
06:27.14Adyshttp://web.archive.org/web/19961019172654/http://blizzard.com/
06:27.18Sky2042you could use the 's as an "is", rather than to show ownership
06:27.21Sky2042:]
06:27.29Sky2042Wowhead is World of Warcraft
06:27.58Adys"World of Warcraft Head is World of Warcraft"
06:28.05Adysthats so lolcat
06:28.06Sky2042lol
06:28.09Skosirislol
06:28.16SkosirisWowhead doesn't stand for  World of Warcraft Head :P
06:28.35Sky2042else it would be WoWHead!
06:28.38Sky2042not Wowhead
06:28.42Adyswith a logo like that you bet it does
06:29.08Skosirisinfobot, Sky2042 is also right
06:29.08infobotSkosiris: okay
06:29.08Sky2042lol
06:29.17Adys~skosiris
06:29.18infobotSee ~Adys
06:29.22Adys:)
06:29.26Sky2042~adys
06:29.26infobotSee ~Skosiris
06:29.29Adys:(
06:29.33Skosiriswhat's that lol
06:29.46Sky2042you didn't just get owned adys, did you?
06:29.56Adysno since it was me who put it that way
06:30.01Sky2042ah, ok :p
06:30.09Adys:P
06:30.17TheOnyxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18756#comments:id=136187
06:30.25TheOnyxI can't believe people mod up those comments.
06:30.27TheOnyx:sigh:
06:30.41Skosiristhe comment you are linking to is deleted, Theonyx
06:30.48Skosiriswhat was it saying?
06:30.53TheOnyxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=18756
06:30.54TheOnyxwell
06:31.04TheOnyxI deleteed thato ne because it was completely useless
06:31.07TheOnyxbut the other ones there
06:31.25TheOnyxThe first one is the only half-way useful one, but they were modded up :(
06:31.35Sky2042i just deleted two more :p
06:31.50TheOnyxI was gonna delete all but the first
06:31.57TheOnyxI just felt like complaining
06:32.05Skosiriskeep the funny ones
06:32.05Adyswhiners
06:32.05TheOnyx>_<
06:32.11Skosiris(e.g. Teer's)
06:32.22*** join/#wowhead Drenmar (n=athalemi@202.168.109.198)
06:32.36Drenmarhi
06:32.39Skosirisjust like the [+] button says, what is either Insightful and/or funny should be encouraged
06:32.45TheOnyxAhoy!
06:32.51Sky2042i'm tempted to delete the top one, cause the SS has the dog next to her
06:33.01Adysnot for long sky
06:33.05TheOnyxSkosiris: nod
06:33.14Sky2042uh oh
06:33.15Drenmarhow do you do those emotes? hi skosiris
06:33.18Sky2042bad adys
06:33.22Sky2042use /me emote
06:33.30Adysnot until a better one is uploaded
06:33.48Drenmartx
06:34.15Skosirisdid someone just downrated Teer's comment?
06:34.33Skosiris-d
06:35.03Sky2042good question
06:35.06TheOnyx?
06:35.09TheOnyxoh the funny one?
06:35.12TheOnyxI left it alone
06:35.16Sky2042btw, why did you make kirk an editor? i r confoosid
06:35.30Sky2042he hasn't so much as touched any of them, iirc :O
06:35.44Adyshe made me admin whats worse
06:36.01Adysand ya sko
06:36.18Sky2042at least you kill ppl... sorta
06:36.20Sky2042lol
06:37.31MelvinSo im in flight at the moment. You have my attention until I land.
06:38.22Sky2042u r inflite?
06:38.27Sky2042we want your attention?
06:38.29Sky2042:P
06:38.45MelvinWant it or not, you have it.
06:38.59Melvini r inflite yah
06:39.51MelvinWho want's to run my alt through an instance?
06:40.04Bryndh
06:40.06Brynds
06:40.41*** join/#wowhead michaelloman (n=michaell@ip70-177-15-245.sb.sd.cox.net)
06:40.48Melvin:/
06:40.49Adyskeyboard problems Brynd ?
06:41.09MelvinIt's not as easy to troll here as it is on the forums. :o
06:41.41MelvinI fail. Guess I'll just idle here.
06:41.49AdysHave a nice idling time
06:42.23PeterLOLstarting to dislike wow in general
06:42.31Adysonly now?
06:42.35PeterLOLthinking about just deleting my characters and forgetting about it completely.
06:42.38PeterLOLyes, only now
06:42.43AdysWhys that :P
06:42.49Sky2042just stop paying
06:42.54PeterLOLdidnt feel like this one week ago, now its all just a dreadful way of spending time
06:42.57Sky2042the characters will be around forever
06:42.58Mystique33....
06:43.01MelvinYou must not be a hunter or warlock.
06:43.02PeterLOLgo farm, go raid, go farm
06:43.12Sky2042quit your guild, alternatively
06:43.17Sky2042start a little person guild
06:43.22PeterLOLyeah that'd be it, just go casual playing
06:43.22MelvinPvP?
06:43.25Sky2042join a casual guild
06:43.33Adysif you quit you'll be back very likely
06:43.34MelvinWhere is your raid progression?
06:43.34Sky2042do some pvp
06:43.35Mystique33Im not a hunter or a warlock and i have fun on my char
06:43.39Sky2042adys, i quit
06:43.41Sky2042:P
06:43.42Mystique33then again Im only 20
06:43.48Adysthats why i said "very likely"
06:43.52Sky2042lol
06:43.55Adystheres still thousands and thousands of people quitting
06:44.03Adysbut theres three times more coming back :)
06:44.20PeterLOLim 19 and wondering what im doing wasting my time on such stuff, but then again, what else would I do
06:44.35Adysdont have too many illusions
06:44.50Sky2042btw, adys, skosiris, theonyx, how do you treat comments like: "this is a clear upgrade", when they don't give support?
06:44.55Adyswasting your time on an useless game isnt worse than wasting your time on useless tv programs
06:45.03Adysdelete lol
06:45.07Sky2042you can do both, adys, btw
06:45.08Sky2042:P
06:45.20Sky2042wasting time on a useless game and watching useless tv
06:45.25Skosiris"this is a clear upgrade" <-- is that the whole comment?
06:45.37Sky2042from x
06:45.40Mystique33no Im not age 20 Im level 20
06:45.41Mystique33jeez
06:45.43AdysThis is a clear comment
06:45.45MelvinRofl.
06:45.58Sky2042and what about the ones that do give some support?
06:46.16Adysif they got too high rating i downrate
06:46.20MelvinMystique33; I play a Mage. I was kidding about the lock/hunter comment.
06:46.22Mystique33and I played a different mmorpg I like this one alot better tbh
06:46.26Sky2042hey, skosiris, how come you never threw a wowhead.com/?mod together? :P
06:46.27Mystique33:)
06:46.29Adysif they got low (under 10) rating, i leave it be
06:47.13PeterLOLAlso play mage as main, still fun and all.. but it gets quite old doing the same stuff over and over. Wanted to get my warlock up through outlands, but then again, the endless questing makes it seem simply not worth it.
06:47.14*** join/#wowhead leland (n=chatzill@69.92.7.175)
06:47.22PeterLOLhas to mean im sick of the game in general
06:47.24AdysOUTLAND
06:47.24SkosirisSky2042: what would you like to see in the Mod's Club?
06:47.33PeterLOLokay no S at the end!
06:47.38Adysty
06:47.39Sky2042just a list of who else does it, more than anything
06:47.49Sky2042guidelines, for cases like that one :P
06:48.01Adyssky you gonna give him stuff to work on :(
06:48.08Sky2042you betcha!
06:48.14Adyshe has the SPELLEFFECT PAGES aswell as a JUNK FACTION FILTER to work on already :(
06:48.15Sky2042i'm gonna make him earn that million :P
06:48.32Adyspoor skosiris
06:48.40AdysGo back to my stuff already
06:49.07Sky2042hey, my being able to search and sort with weightable filter is > spell stuff
06:49.34Sky2042dude, skosiris, do you write any of what we ask you for down? or do you just wait for us to remind you again and again?
06:49.49Adyshe writes it down
06:49.56Adysand waits for us to remind him again and again.
06:49.59TheOnyxSky2042:  Malgayne is the request recorder
06:50.05TheOnyxSkosiris just writes code
06:50.05TheOnyxnod
06:50.08Sky2042now
06:50.12Sky2042it wasn't always like that :P
06:50.14Adysblame tim not malgayne
06:50.15TheOnyxnod
06:50.16Adyswhats that
06:50.55SkosirisI try to keep tracks of pretty much all feature requests in my head
06:51.02Sky2042ew
06:51.09TheOnyxSky2042: "this is a clear upgrade" or "this is the best dagger before level 60" are pretty strong delete candidates
06:51.21*** join/#wowhead Thrae (n=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
06:51.25Skosiriswell, only the most important ones
06:51.42Adyslike junk faction filter is not important
06:51.54TheOnyxjunk faction filter?
06:51.58Adyscmon its not like its a hard one im asking you, the spelleffect pages ok but the filter no :P
06:52.01TheOnyxlike the centaurs in desolace?
06:52.10*** join/#wowhead ThraeBot (i=generalm@c-68-49-121-90.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
06:52.14TheOnyxor do you mean something else by a junk faction
06:52.15Thrae!explicit
06:52.16ThraeBotThrae: OK, I will now only respond to commands in this channel when addressed by ThraeBot: <command>. Note the ! is not needed.
06:52.16Adyshi thraebot
06:52.16TheOnyx?
06:52.30ThraeAdys: He follows you wherever you go
06:52.40AdysTheOnyx: junk factions = alot of shit useless factions that im interested in
06:52.53TheOnyxso yeah
06:52.58TheOnyxlike centaurs in desolace
06:52.58Adyshttp://www.thottbot.com/f/all
06:53.05Adysno these are actual factions
06:53.26Adyshttp://www.thottbot.com/f931
06:53.29Adyslike this <3
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06:54.05TheOnyxhttp://www.thottbot.com/f92
06:54.19Adysthats a real faction TheOnyx
06:54.23Adysyou can get rep with it etc
06:54.24PeterLOLWhat do you peeps think about random PCT'ing to a new server, with new guilds and people?
06:54.34Sky2042some have done that
06:54.36PeterLOLIs it worth the sacrifice of having to leave guild/mates behind
06:54.37SkosirisAdys: I first read  http://www.thottbot.com/f/ails
06:54.38AdysPeterLOL: ive done that
06:54.42Sky2042lol
06:54.43Adyslol sko
06:54.57BleeterPeterLOL: I've done that... rolled toons on new realms to check them out, get a feel etc.
06:55.03PeterLOLYeah
06:55.07Adyswell thottbot doesnt fail until you got a list like that
06:55.10TheOnyxor to chill with a different group of people
06:55.16BleeterPeterLOL: then done a PCT when I found a good realm, with a decent-ish guld that met my requirements
06:55.17AdysWell it depends TheOnyx
06:55.24Adysi'd say it kind of sucks leaving friends behind
06:55.25Bleeterwho promptly disbanded after I arrived =)
06:55.36Adysyes actually same here :P
06:55.38TheOnyxAdys: i never said to leave them behind
06:55.42Adysjoined a close friends guild
06:55.44TheOnyxAdys: I play on 3 servers atm
06:55.46Sky2042peterlol: roll an alt on a different server with a friend or two . you could try RPing on the server you're on, or maybe a different one :)
06:55.51Adysthe guild disbanded and we all rerolled on another server
06:55.54PeterLOLYou see, my current server has a really really low average, i feel i dont really fit in anymore, the "2 best guilds" are in BT, but the others are simply not good. The chance of getting into a good guild is really slim, might aswell test my wings on a new server.
06:55.55Sky2042RPing's always fun
06:56.23Adyslol how wrong
06:56.26AdysRP sucks in wow
06:56.35Adysthats just a fact
06:56.40Adysand I play on a rp realm :P
06:56.45Bleetersame
06:56.51Sky2042so, it's still fun :P
06:57.00AdysPeterLOL: if you're intending to raid well transferring is generally good
06:57.00ThraeYeah, RP sucks in WoW more then it did from where I came from -- DAoC
06:57.31ThraeRP generally sucks in all massively popular MMORPGs =/ There just aren't enough roleplayers to go around
06:57.35Skosirisshould "Deleted" and "Purged" by distinguished in comments listings?
06:57.42Skosiris(deleted: as in deleted by Adys)
06:57.47ThraeWe should somehow gather up all the roleplayers and put them all on one exclusive server.
06:57.49PeterLOLYes, perhaps I could do some scouting, then just read up on the server at hand, to get a feel of it, when im convineced its a nice server, might aswell write a cross-realm apply
06:57.55Adys(Purged: as in purged by Adys' request)
06:57.56Skosiris(and purged because of a negative rating)
06:58.04Adysah that.
06:58.06TheOnyxSkosiris: I think at least one of the two IRC stat pages should be linked on wowhead's IRC page
06:58.07Skosirisbe*
06:58.15Adysdont think its needed
06:58.16MelvinPeterLOL: What server are you on?
06:58.28PeterLOLShattered Hand, EU
06:58.40Adyswoo Im in your battlegroup
06:58.45Adyswas anyway
06:58.53MelvinEU :/
06:58.54DrenmarI just read up a bit about the comment of thottbot, it reminded me of how sometimes when i'm questing and i'd like to look up multple quests online, i wish i could just past a list into a single text box search and get back the lists of quests
06:58.54SkosirisTheOnyx: we got 2 stats page? :o
06:58.59PeterLOLI dont even know my BG, dont do much PvPing at all
06:59.05MelvinIm on US Black Dragonflight.
06:59.32MelvinBut that sounds like my server was about one month ago.
06:59.48TheOnyxhttp://www.bleeter.id.au/irc_stats/wowhead.html & http://wow.tecnobrat.com/ircstats/wowhead.html
06:59.54MelvinSince they lifted the attunement for SSC and TK it shouldnt be too long until that problem fixes itself.
07:00.09MelvinAre you just farming Kara or what?
07:00.13Sky2042wow, that tecnobrat page is pretty.
07:00.26Skosirissure, let me add them right now
07:00.27TheOnyxI like bleeters a little more because it tracks karms
07:00.31TheOnyx*karma
07:00.49AdysWell PeterLOL, Ive personally known a bad experience from PCTs but to be honest i know how it is
07:01.00BleeterTHe pisg could prolly be easily changed, enver really looked into it that much
07:01.02AdysI'd say if you got 20 euros to waste, its not a bad thing to do
07:01.14Adysbut you'll likely end up stopping to play the char you transferred
07:01.23PeterLOLYeah its no problem really, would suck to end up at an even more lame server though
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07:01.39Adysyou will end up on a lamer server, whatever you do :)
07:01.56Adysmost servers are similars, only a few stand out
07:02.04MelvinHas your guild tried gruul yet?
07:02.13AdysIts kind of hard to explain but you'll see what i mean if you try to do it
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07:02.19MelvinIn my opinion progress is what keeps the game interesting.
07:02.28Adysopinion's one thing
07:02.37Bleeterheh, the only two realms showing ehre as locked.. are both Oceanic realms :(
07:02.38Adysthe reality is that people keep the game interesting
07:02.42Drenmarwhat if you don't have time to progress
07:02.46Drenmarto commit to raids
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07:03.01Bleeterand out of the other 6 Oceanic realms, 2 are 'full' 4 are 'high'
07:03.25Adysi used to be a really hardcore raider pre bc
07:03.28Sky2042drenmar: then you don't play :|
07:03.30MelvinThen pvp. I was just saying that is what keeps it interesting for me.
07:03.43Adysafter bc i kinda gave up on it i just felt like doing other stuff
07:03.45Drenmartrue :(
07:03.50PeterLOLMelvin, if you mean me, yes. I'm one of the few ones who are actually geared on par or better compared to the "t4 pool".. the other guildies are waiting for epics it seems.
07:04.01Sky2042i guess you can pvp now, what with the fact you can actually get decent gear without dedicating tons and tons of time
07:04.10Adysthat is sooo wrong
07:04.21SkosirisTheOnyx: http://www.wowhead.com/?irc
07:04.22Adyspvp system in wow sucks alien balls ;)
07:04.26Drenmari'd like to raid just can't commit to it... and then i can't be bothered sitting outside of kara just to show i really am keen
07:04.26Sky2042truth
07:04.29MelvinPeterLOL: Yeah look for a guild that is a bit further in progression. At least Mag.
07:04.57TheOnyxSkosiris: Awesome :)
07:05.04Sky2042goddamnit skosiris
07:05.08Drenmaranyone here gotten into warhammer?
07:05.23PeterLOLWe've tried mag, but you see.. As I'm (if i may say so myself) a bit more dedicated than most in the guild, i really feel i would fit in an ssc/tk-guild quite well (both gear-wise and the ability of knowing what to do, and when)
07:05.25Bleeterthe other problem with Oceanic realms.. full of Oceanic kiddies who play at the same time I'm awake.
07:05.42Sky2042peterlol: then apply?
07:05.43Drenmarlol
07:05.45Sky2042or have you done that?
07:05.48MelvinPeterLOL: Then what is the problem?
07:06.03Adyshe explained his problem
07:06.10Sky2042lol
07:06.12Adyshis guild sucks, but the only better ones are already in BT
07:06.14PeterLOLThere are no ssc/tk guilds worth applying to on the server. The "better" guilds are too good, the less good ones.. are crap.
07:06.22PeterLOLthere is no "in between" if you will
07:06.25Drenmarwhats the shortcut to do this ... PeterLOL: ? or you just typing it in
07:06.30Sky2042ah... why not try to start a new one??
07:06.32Adystabcompletion
07:06.33Sky2042typing it drenmar
07:06.40Sky2042oh shit
07:06.42Sky2042sweet
07:06.45Adyslol
07:06.48Drenmarthey should make something like that a short cut
07:06.59PeterLOLdr + tab = Drenmar
07:07.01PeterLOLetc etc
07:07.08Adysstarting a new guild is such a bad idea to get you hooked to the game
07:07.08Drenmarsweet
07:07.15Sky2042lol adys
07:07.26AdysNo offense sky :P
07:07.35Sky2042just an idea adys ;P
07:07.41Adysit's the truth, guild management, particularly raiding guilds, is awful
07:07.44Skosirisdepends on who you have in your guild
07:07.48DrenmarSky2042: me either... its like linux
07:08.02Adysdoesnt actually skosiris
07:08.04Sky2042i'd say he could try building a guild that's ready for ssc/tk, was the concept
07:08.06Adysguilds eventually die
07:08.09MelvinSplitting the responsibility with class leaders helps.
07:08.14Adys"new" raiding guilds always do so
07:08.16MelvinWhat kills guilds is loot drama.
07:08.23Sky2042sometimes
07:08.23Drenmarthey should make cross realm lfg
07:08.30Sky2042if you've got a bad gm, you're screwed
07:08.31Drenmarand cross realm instances
07:08.44Adyswhat kills guilds is idiots, end of the line
07:08.47Sky2042Drenmar: maybe :|
07:08.49Sky2042lol, yeah adys
07:08.51Adysmanaging a guild is managing idiots
07:08.51Drenmarmost guilds do have bad gms
07:09.09Drenmarwell not bad
07:09.12Sky2042do they now?
07:09.17Adysyou need to avoid loot drama, attendence drama, the whole "OMG I WANNA DO KARAZHAN AND YOU WANNA DO GRUUL" thing
07:09.29Adysbeing a good gm is stressing
07:09.33Sky2042yeah
07:09.38MelvinYeah it is so hard to get 25 people to agree on anything.
07:09.41Drenmarits just hard to manage a guild and its hard to find someone that is good at doing that job
07:09.41Sky2042on all the time, dealing with the idiots as it were
07:09.42Adysand being a bad gm is just a shit experience
07:09.49BleeterMelvin: no it's not!
07:09.58Adyshaha
07:10.05MelvinBleeter: Touche.
07:10.06PeterLOLYes, being a guild master must suck so bad
07:10.08MelvinBest pun ever.
07:10.14Drenmari recon its better if you know a group of people in real life, and start from there
07:10.26Adysit is indeed
07:10.30Adysbut it doesnt go far
07:10.50Adysthe real guilds that stay alive are the ones who shifted from pre WoW
07:10.50Sky2042ive heard of wow killing rl friendships in such a way :|
07:11.01Drenmarwell you have to still get new guild members
07:11.06Adysor some that formed their own constructions, that are already solid
07:11.07Sky2042eh, there are a few on my server which aren't prewo
07:11.17Adysthey'll die
07:11.26Adysunless they got a strong officership already
07:11.27Sky2042server's been around since wow started :P
07:11.34Drenmarits one of those things that make or break friendships hey
07:11.37Sky2042guilds have been around since wow started
07:11.37PeterLOLMy guild master once left during raidtime because he was too angry with some people.. man that's rough stuff
07:11.46Sky2042hence, they've made it work
07:11.49Sky2042somehow
07:11.49Sky2042>.>
07:11.51Adyssame as mine, a month ago one of the first guilds of the server disbanded, because of karazhan/gruul drama
07:11.54Adyshi burning crusade
07:11.57AdysPeterLOL: this is just my personal feeling about the game, but it generally ends up being the right one. You wont like transferring, but if you dont even play anymore go ahead and give transfers a try.
07:12.02MelvinPeterLOL: Thats a guild I would quit.
07:12.13SkosirisI'm testing some highlighting feature in mirc, could you please say  either  "sko" or  "skosiris"  in a message?
07:12.18Sky2042skosiris
07:12.18PeterLOLsko
07:12.22Adysslacker
07:12.23Sky2042sko, message for you
07:12.25Sky2042lol
07:12.28Sky2042touche
07:12.38AdysSkosiris: get xchat :)
07:12.38Skosirisit works fine, thanks
07:13.05Sky2042lol
07:13.13Adysanyhow, PeterLOL, this whole thing is just about people
07:13.16Mystique33sorry wasnt paying attention
07:13.23PeterLOLAdys, well.. i really dont have much to leave at the current server, except a few people i play with daily..But on the other hand, i have to put myself in first position right? I want to make some progress (even thought its bit late to worry about progress) whereas it seems like people are just slacking right now.
07:13.27Adysif you manage to meet people on your new server you'll like it, and if you meet enough you'll stay around
07:13.42Adysyea but why do you want to make progress?
07:13.43Mystique33adys I almost beg to differ
07:13.56Sky2042PeterLOL: yeah, you will have to take some initiative
07:14.05MelvinPeterLOL: do you feel your guild has the ability to progress?
07:14.13Adyshe doesnt
07:14.15Adyshe already said that
07:14.37Mystique33most of the people I meet ingame are rude tbh
07:14.37Adysthe thing is you wont enjoy the game over time
07:14.39PeterLOLUmn, yes, if we can just sort out who's fitting in and who's not. People are undergeared, not doing enough pre-raid crafting/enchanting and stuff. I feel like im stuck with total boons.
07:14.55MelvinThe reason people arent progressing into SSC/TK is probably because the well geared people always leave guilds that arent there yet.
07:15.05ThraeAnyone ever play the first Dreamcast Sonic game?
07:15.06AdysPeterLOL: how many lvl 70 chars you got on that serv?
07:15.21AdysThrae: do you have something more random to ask :P
07:15.21PeterLOLUmn, i'd say 2-3 per account :<
07:15.26Sky2042peterlol: if you have the mentality, apply to one of the hardcore guilds. they'll get you geared up if they can see you want it bad.
07:15.27MelvinAdys: I keep tabbing out to level fishing so I miss some stuff.
07:15.35Adysaight
07:15.45ThraeRemember the character that you basically had to fish on every level you got to, instead of doing Sonic-y stuff?
07:15.48MelvinEverytime I hear the spash haha.
07:16.06ThraeBlizzard's next MMORPG should be that -- Multiplayer Fishing.
07:16.09AdysPeterLOL: what are you waiting for? you got 20 euros to waste well basically go ahead because PCTs are definetly an odd experience
07:16.13ThraeWorld of Fishing.
07:17.03PeterLOLAdys, I am doing research! Cant make such a decision without any knowledge of what im facing
07:17.06ThraeThere should be Fishing Arenas in WoW. Who can catch that Deviate Fish first?!
07:17.21AdysPeterLOL: you play on pvp or pve?
07:17.25PeterLOLpvp server
07:17.30PeterLOLor no, planning on pve!
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07:17.31Adysi invite you on ravenholdt
07:17.32PeterLOLon pvp server
07:17.40Adysrppvp
07:17.48Sky2042adys, that the wowwiki one?
07:17.51Adysno
07:17.54Sky2042didn't think so
07:17.59Adysthats one i rerolled on
07:18.02Bleeterravenhold us?
07:18.05Adyseu
07:18.07PeterLOLWas thinking about stormscale, know theres some better than average guilds on ther
07:18.09ThraeFishing Servers too, where instances are replaced by giant lakes that you can fish from, and all mobs are removed. Levels are only indicated by your Fishing Level.
07:18.16Drenmari'm curious what you guys think, whats the most overpowered class in wow?
07:18.19BleeterAdys: oh good, I'd hate to think I'd transferred off your server :P
07:18.27Sky2042drenmar: warlock, naturally
07:18.28AdysDrenmar: holy priest, lets move on
07:18.28Mystique33warlock from what i hear
07:18.29BleeterDrenmar: <Game Master>
07:18.30Sky2042but i'm biased :]
07:18.40AdysBleeter: lol
07:18.40Drenmarwarrior is my opinion
07:18.53OrthariBM hunter
07:18.56AdysDrenmar: seriously no trolling
07:18.59PeterLOLFacing a warlock as any class is pretty hard.
07:19.25Drenmartrolling?
07:19.54Sky2042did they get rid of hyjal attunement, or not?
07:19.57Adysno
07:20.02Sky2042k
07:20.04Drenmarwhat do you have to do for that?
07:20.04Adysonly ssc/tk
07:20.29AdysPeterLOL: why exactly do you want progression?
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07:20.56PeterLOLUmn, because its fun with some challenges.. just like when we had to waste 2 entire resets in karazhan just to get prince down
07:21.02PeterLOLand that wasnt long time ago at all
07:21.27Adysand do you really think you can get in a guild progressing with absolutely no one you know and have fun?
07:21.30PeterLOLIts not fun doing same stuff over and over again to gear the rest of the guild up, gets bit tedious
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07:22.03Adysjust think over it, its more obvious for some people rather than others but you play for the people you got around you
07:22.10Drenmartrue, so how do the people behind catch up?
07:22.14Adysyou dont play for progress, you dont play for gear, for loot, for anyone
07:22.37Adysyou play for the people you play with
07:22.41PeterLOLyeah, of course.. its fun getting progress with people you like playing with
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07:22.49T-MetalMy ISP can bite my nuts.
07:22.59Adysthats the whole point
07:23.13Adysyou wont have fun if you're with 24 guys you dont know
07:23.31Crevoxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?search=fei+fei#objects eh
07:23.47Adyshahah
07:23.49MelvinAdys: I dont know you get to know them when you play together a lot.
07:23.50Adysawsome
07:24.11AdysMelvin: i experienced nearly everything of that, both pre bc and post bc
07:24.30Adysi know what changed, its in the experience and in how you see stuff and how you saw it before
07:25.16Sky2042skosiris: uh, problem
07:25.18Adysi can just tell you, whoever you are, if you are annoyed with the game as it is, feel like transferring well then you'll do it, you'll like it, then you wont like it, you'll stop playing and you'll reroll
07:26.15Skosirisdata: [{id:185302,name:'Fei Fei\'s Cache',location:[3483],type:3}, {}]
07:26.45Skosirisnotice how empty the 2nd element is
07:27.00Adysdoes look undefined to me
07:27.06Adys+10 points to wowhead's server
07:28.07AdysPeterLOL: dont transfer on a server because its got good progress
07:28.11Adysbecause generally people are shit there
07:28.26Adysstormscale, magtheridon, silvermoon
07:28.32Adysbeen around them, its shit
07:28.53SkosirisNice catch, Crevox
07:28.57Adysif you do get in the guild you hoped to be in, you'll leave it
07:29.05Skosirisyou found one of the 3 objects that are messed up
07:29.08Adysand you'll stop playing and/or reroll
07:29.25AdysSkosiris: we gonna play "lets find the two other ones?"
07:29.42Adysgimme a hint ill find em both!
07:29.45Skosirisyou won't get the chance to, sorry :(
07:29.50Adys=[
07:29.52Adysmeanie
07:29.57Adyswhat were they at least?
07:30.27Skosirisrandom junk :P
07:30.40AdysExplain :P
07:30.57Skosirise.g. object #184742,  named "T'chali's Grave"
07:31.11Skosirisit shouldn't be appearing on the site
07:31.20Adysyou bet it should
07:31.34Adyswhen are you putting on the junk object filter too?
07:31.36SkosirisWowhead doesn't list doors, chairs, fireplaces, etc
07:31.38Adysi asked you for that one!
07:31.50Skosirisit doesn't list things we it can't tell where it's located
07:31.55Skosiris-we
07:32.02Adysya you told me :P
07:32.18Adysand I asked you for that filter I swear :P
07:33.11Adysbubai
07:33.31Adysim gonna get a shower :) ill be back in a bit
07:33.37AdysPeterLOL: you still there btw?
07:33.40BleeterUNCLEAN!
07:33.54PeterLOLyes, i've read what you've written above
07:33.57Adyshorde or alliance?
07:33.59PeterLOLwas getting the cats some food
07:34.00PeterLOLalliance
07:34.04Adysawesome
07:34.07Adyscome on ravenholdt
07:34.22Adyswe got shit progress but people are nice there
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07:34.39PeterLOLRavenholdt, didnt even know that server existed.
07:34.42PeterLOLwhat is the progress like
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07:34.53PeterLOLi mean, are people not even doing gruul/mag etc?
07:34.57Adys<Adys> we got shit progress but people are nice there
07:35.01Adyshm think they are
07:35.02Adyslemme check
07:35.49Adyshttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=301871359&sid=1
07:35.51Adysvashj/alar
07:36.17Adysbut really dont transfer to a server for its good or bad pve progress
07:36.21Adysyou'll regret that trust me
07:36.42Adysgonna take that shower, if you cant stand my presence have a look at Tarren Mill, its not a rp realm and it's a hell of a friendly community
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07:37.49PeterLOLpretty sure i could stand anyones presence :> but yeah, people over progress completely.. shattered hand is filled with 13 year old swedes whining about who has the phatezt lootz!
07:38.36Sky204212 year olds. get it right!
07:38.39Sky2042:P
07:39.43PeterLOLAllright, 12 then
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07:57.05MelvinWell, the convo died.
07:57.16MelvinBut I got like 50 fishing skillups.
07:58.50PeterLOLcouldnt be arsed with fisihing, from hearing how lame it is
07:59.09Sky2042good for some of the pots though
08:00.27MelvinMote of water and the lurker below. :/
08:00.34MelvinIt is really to help my friend though.
08:00.49MelvinHe wants Polymorph: Turtle.
08:00.59Sky2042lol
08:01.04Sky2042polymorph turtle ftl
08:01.08ThraePolymorph: Pikachu!
08:01.09Mr_Rabies2make HIM fish
08:01.11PeterLOLI want that too, been encouraging a guildie to push his fishing, which he now has been doing
08:01.16ThraeGotta catch 'em all...polymorphs!
08:01.26Sky2042lol thrae, truth
08:01.28PeterLOLNot been doing any ZG lately though, because the raptor wont just drop.
08:01.34Mr_Rabies2i don't understand leveling fishing for someone else :[
08:01.36MelvinI have had poly: turtle since way before zg.
08:01.40Mr_Rabies2they have arms
08:02.04MelvinWell like I said, lurker below and mote of water are another reason.
08:02.38Sky2042Melvin: how have you had poly:turtle since before zg?
08:02.51MelvinI meant to type BC rofl.
08:02.55Sky2042lol
08:02.57Sky2042ok
08:03.03Sky2042thought that was a might strange.
08:03.05MelvinBut I was thinking about getting it in zg pre-bc.
08:03.23MelvinWe just go 5-man the boss every reset.
08:03.34MelvinI don't bother farming the mounts as no one want's them.
08:04.22Melvin2 mages 1 shadow priest (or lock depending on who is on) 1 warrior and a holy priest.
08:06.37MelvinI wish procing Quag's eye made fishing go faster like it used to.
08:07.02BleeterI wish, as an engi, I could just throw some dynamite into a pool of fish and then loot
08:07.04PeterLOLI'd fancy a raptor, and the tiger too i guess
08:07.10PeterLOLJust because theyre still considered "rare"
08:07.51MelvinBleeter: Yeah. Isn't there a low leve dynamite that is called fishing something.
08:08.17Bleeterdwarven fishing pole, iirc
08:08.22Bleetera gun that you can't fish with
08:08.34Bleeterand some other named 'fishing' item, too, which you can't fish with...
08:08.44Bleeterto be honest, though, I've never actually tried blowing up a school of fish
08:08.56Bleeterjust figured seeing as I've never seen it mentioned, it doesn't work
08:09.33BleeterMelvin: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=4598
08:09.37MelvinGoblin fishing pole.
08:09.38Bleeter'goblin fishing pole'
08:09.45MelvinFound it just as you did.
08:10.10PeterLOLHow much effort is it to get 375 fishing?
08:10.12BleeterI've got a toon that's close to compelte on that quest... I'll try the thing out ;)
08:11.15BleeterPeterLOL: with the right pole and glove enchant, not that hard. then again, I kinda forced my main hunter to do fishing, saw it as cheap and easy food for pets.
08:11.38Bleeterand by cooking the fish, increased cooking skill 'n got food buff
08:11.50MelvinPeterLOL: Also, you can just fish in most major cities.
08:11.57PeterLOLYeah thats right, i really dont know what i would benefit from it, maybe sporefish (as in blackened sporefish for spelldmg)
08:12.04MelvinI believe it is the same rate for skillups no matter where you fish.
08:12.08Sky2042skosiris: why is only one Blade of Azzinoth listed at http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=22917#drops ? :|
08:12.39FinalXmorning
08:13.02MelvinYeah. No reason to level it.
08:13.38MelvinBut at this hour there is nothing to do and short of raiding I need nothing from any instance anyway.
08:14.21FinalXI reached my goal, which was the Netherwing Drake, got bored, tried levelling fishing, got even more bored so decided to level an ud lock.. :)
08:14.36PeterLOLI want 375 cooking though
08:14.45Sky2042adys: can you do this request: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32753#comments
08:14.53PeterLOLsince farming basilisks for meat is no problem, cooking it myself would be pretty sweet
08:15.00MelvinHeh. I tried leveling an alt. Got bored.
08:15.06AdysSky2042: no, this is blizzards fault
08:15.09Sky2042lol
08:15.11Sky2042gg
08:15.14Adysthe item is categorized like that in the cache
08:15.34Sky2042can't be changed manually?
08:15.46FinalXI had 300 fishing on all my other chars pre-TBC >.> Couldn't be arsed levelling it to 375 on any of em... neither with cooking
08:15.48Sky2042damn blizzard
08:16.36MelvinYeah. Cooking was a waste pre-bc.
08:16.45MelvinAnd fishing still is.
08:16.59Adysdisagreed about fishing, its quite good with motes of water
08:17.04FinalXI like fishing tbh, just don't have the time anymore.
08:17.07Adysits still shit, but its better than before
08:17.47MelvinWell any foodbuff you can get from fishing you can get from some other source of meat as well.
08:17.58MelvinWhy fish when you can farm like 200x as fast.
08:18.05PeterLOLJust like blackened sporefish vs. blackened basilisks
08:18.21PeterLOL(of whom i aoe down 10 at a time and rip the flesh of them =D)
08:18.25MelvinAnd crunchy serpent
08:19.52Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?user=Adys#screenshots:0
08:20.01Adysim so good at screenshotting crates
08:20.06Sky2042lol
08:20.20Sky2042they don't exactly make it hard to do so...
08:20.35SkosirisPlease criticize : http://www.wowhead.com/?underdev
08:20.43PeterLOLAdys with the screenshots of blase wave! =D
08:20.46PeterLOLblast*
08:20.56FinalXhm, does anyone know an addon that automaticly destroys soul shards after you have an X amount?
08:21.03PeterLOL"h0kay this is like ubar powerful mage spellz"
08:21.05Adysnot mine
08:21.07Adysbeska's
08:21.26AdysFinalX: not possible, destroying item is protected
08:21.39SkosirisFinalX: I was actually looking for this a little while ago, so you can use Soul Drain to regenerate mana w/o getting overwhelmed with shards
08:21.42FinalXyeah ok but you can with mouse clicks/addons, cant you?
08:21.45Sky2042i think necrolysis used to finalx
08:21.46FinalXSkosiris: exactly
08:21.52Sky2042don't know if it still does
08:21.55FinalXthat's precisely what i was thinking xD
08:21.58Sky2042lol
08:22.20Sky2042i'm getting a donut, then im going to bed
08:22.21FinalXi used some addon on my old lock ages ago that had soulstone/healthstone and a summon icon but cant remember what it was :(
08:22.22Sky2042nights!
08:22.28FinalXgonna have a look at necro
08:22.31FinalXnn mate :)
08:22.44MelvinFinalX: It has been suggested on the forums. I see no reason they wouldn't (eventually) put it in the game.
08:22.45Adysgn sky
08:22.56AdysMelvin: because it can be abused
08:23.07Adyssome other protected functions ...
08:23.19MelvinAdys: Not to allow addons to do it. But have blizzard do it themselves.
08:23.21Adysbidding on items in AH, accepting trades
08:23.24FinalXAdys: they could make it like "set max amount of soulshards to $x, do not generate more than that"
08:23.32Adysah
08:23.38MelvinLike have Soulstone creaton be toggleablr.
08:23.52MelvinTypos.
08:24.21MelvinPerhaps a buff you can click off and recast.
08:24.33MelvinUndispellable and such.
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08:25.27MelvinHi test
08:26.54Skosiristhis talent is the reason why warlocks need such a change: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18372
08:27.13Skosiris15% is a shitload of mana
08:27.41MelvinYeah it is.
08:28.07SkosirisFinalX: angelspire has some great tip, "Btw, perfectly combined with Shadowburn. Just make sure to use shadowburn in the beginning, so mob dies AFTER 5 seconds of Shadowburn. Or you'll get overrun with shards =)"
08:28.18PeterLOLI went affliction from the start all the way to 45, when a mate made me realize demonology is a better leveling build, downside with having a felguard is the imp. drain soul, always have to do drain-kills just to restore HP/mana (felguards HP)
08:28.31MelvinSkosiris: I don;t thinnk that is OP though. There are other issues that need addressed first.
08:29.56FinalXSkosiris: I'm level 15 and wanna go affl :(
08:30.20PeterLOLDont!
08:30.35FinalXDude my other lock levelled as Demonology, I wanna do something else for a while :P
08:30.47PeterLOLOh well, go ahead
08:30.52FinalXAnd right now I only have ic corr & 1 point in imp drain soul :P
08:30.57PeterLOLsince you obviously know the class quite well
08:31.02Skosirishow does a mage compare to a warlock?
08:31.16PeterLOLmage = instadamage, warlock = about same dmg but over time
08:31.25PeterLOLwarlock much more attractive for pvping though, i guess.
08:31.28Adyser
08:31.36AdysMage = underpowered, warlock = overpowered
08:31.38FinalXmage is fun... got a 70 frostmage as well, lock is more fun imho, mage is all about boom :P
08:31.40Adysthats the diff
08:31.46PeterLOLMage isnt underpowered at all
08:31.46Adyshm, i said no trolling :( bah
08:31.48Adysi fail
08:31.52FinalXlol
08:31.55Skosirislol
08:31.57Adysnah PeterLOL i play one i agree mages are fine
08:32.01FinalXfunny thing is, my frostmage is actually a troll xD
08:32.04Adysother classes are not. :)
08:32.06MelvinMages are fine.
08:32.21FinalXand bugs ftw
08:32.27Melvin<- undead mage
08:32.39Skosirisbugs?
08:32.46FinalXif the target is frozen, cast a frostbolt and cast an ice lance immediately after that, nearly garuanteed 2x crit
08:32.56AdysAQ 20 is bugged
08:33.03PeterLOLYeah, i was frost when not raiding, was very fun grinding/farming and stuff.
08:33.08Adysi remember that on EU forums
08:33.23MelvinIve been just about every spec. :/
08:33.24Adys"AQ 20 is bugged. Yes its full of bugs. Fix plz"
08:33.25FinalXwhile it should break immediately .. but in the time it takes for the bolt to land, you can get the ice lance to go as well
08:33.33Adysthundgot replied "Would help if you gave details"
08:33.42FinalXrofl
08:34.00SkosirisPeterLOL: what are you now that you raid?
08:34.29PeterLOLMage, 10/48/3 deep fire, sitting at about 1k+fire and 33% crit, almost maxed +hit and raiding tier4-pool so far.
08:34.39Melvint4 eww.
08:34.49PeterLOLyes, well..
08:34.58MelvinSpellfire/spellstrike
08:35.17PeterLOLYes, thats what im using at the moment, mixed with rep-rewards and some random karazhan loots.
08:35.32MelvinYeah.
08:36.10Melvin1153 damage, 28% crit, capped spell hit currently.
08:36.19MelvinBut at the moment I am not fire spec. :/
08:37.54MelvinI went 61/0/0.
08:38.10PeterLOLI went frost all the way to 70, thought it was "the shit" for mages.. when i got out-dpsed by ridiculous amounts in raids, i felt i had to re-specc
08:38.42ThraeFrost is PvP
08:38.45MelvinLol. Yeah.
08:38.57MelvinFrost can be decent if you have the gear for it.
08:39.00ThraeAnyone who reads the Mage forums should know that :D
08:39.23MelvinMy friend out dpses fire mages as 40/0/21
08:39.43ThraeMelvin: That could just be because those fire mages suck horribly in gear
08:39.50Skosirisany tips to last for a long while w/o running out of mana?
08:39.52ThraeOr suck in general. Probably both.
08:39.59PeterLOLI dont know really, im a bit tempted to go arc/frost at the moment, but then again.. tailoring-respeccx2
08:40.06MelvinYeah.
08:40.06Adysyou cant say suck in this channel thrae sorry
08:40.11Adyslast warning before kickban
08:40.23AdysSkosiris: depends, which level?
08:40.32Skosirispretty much all of them
08:40.34ThraeAdys: OK, any other banned words?
08:40.46SkosirisI'm 14 atm, but curious about how it evolves up to 70
08:40.54MelvinThrae: It could be. But he just know how to play it to its full potential.
08:41.11Adyswell it doesnt really evolve, as long as you level fights are longer but nothing really changes
08:41.19Adysthats how i feel about it
08:41.24Skosirisany tips? :p
08:41.27Adysi levelled 60-70 in naxx gear so cant say
08:41.30PeterLOLI'd say frost for leveling really
08:41.33ThraeAdys: Is it a bannable offense to ask what the bannable offenses are?
08:41.39AdysYES
08:41.46MelvinRofl^^
08:42.01Adyswell if you're grinding i'd say dont use fireblast, never use arcane explosion/cone of cold
08:42.04ThraeAdys is just jealous of my hot ThraeBot action
08:42.15Adysif you wanna be constantly with mana
08:42.41Adysget 5/5 improved arcane missiles asap, if you level with frost grab frostbite too
08:42.45Melvin60-70 is about the same as fire or frost.
08:42.48Adysi would say keep off shatter but thats personal
08:43.26ThraeI'd say for a Mage, it's about downtime vs killtime, because you don't need to worry about running out of high-quality water
08:43.49ThraeIf you reduce your downtime by 25% and increase your killtime by 50%, that's not a savings
08:44.15Skosirisright
08:44.34ThraeAnyway, it feels very cool to blow through your enemies, and feeling cool lets you grind longer
08:45.08PeterLOLMage leveling is all about burst, and shatter + frostbite will provide that burst.
08:45.59SkosirisI hear Frostbite isn't good if you want to AoE w/ cone of cold and Blizzard
08:46.13MelvinFrostbite is very bad for aoe grinding.
08:46.22AFKDuTempeteBleh, I tried going destruction once, and even though the face melting was neat, I couldn't stand running through mana that fast.
08:47.21AFKDuTempeteI think that's why I love my warlock so much.  I feel like i'm in control of everything.  I couldn't even do demonology for long.
08:47.37AFKDuTempeteI hated having to rely on my wimpy pet for DPS.
08:47.50MelvinYeah. Affliction is just so nice.
08:47.56AFKDuTempetedefinitely
08:47.59Skosirisdo you ever run out of mana as an Affliction warlock?
08:48.05MelvinIt gives you everything you could ask for and more.
08:48.07AFKDuTempetewhat's mana?
08:48.14ThraeAFKDuTempete: That's when you beg Mages for water!
08:48.18AFKDuTempeteAre you talking about that bluish bar I never look at?
08:48.22MelvinAffliction warlocks never ever go out of mana.
08:48.40ThraeOh, and also ask Mages for Mana Gems, they love it when you ask for Mana Gems
08:48.40MelvinAnd they provide the best raid synergy.
08:48.47AFKDuTempetemeh, water is for people who worry about mana
08:48.49PeterLOLHow would a random-say-macro look like? (Say 1 out of 10 phrases etc)
08:48.55PeterLOLCreating some sweet RP-macros
08:49.01AFKDuTempeteum, yeah... mana gems...
08:49.44MelvinLol. I dont think my warlock has drank more than once ever. Shes level 45.
08:49.48ThraePeterLOL: A macro is restricted to 255 characters -- doubt you'd be able to fit it in there. Better making an addon and using /script YourAddonFunctionName()
08:49.49AFKDuTempeteI remember when my guild didn't have any reliable warlocks... raiding was so much more miserable.
08:49.55MelvinAnd the only time I drank is because I got ganked.
08:50.11MelvinOnce.
08:50.36AFKDuTempeteI think it's funny when mages try to push food and water on me.
08:50.48AFKDuTempeteThey always hand me 2-3 stacks of each.
08:51.09ThraePeterLOL: It's just a basic usage of "local r = math.random(0,10) if r == 1 then SendChatMessage("message1", "SAY") elseif r == 2 then SendChatMessage("message2", "SAY"), etc.
08:51.35AFKDuTempeteAnd at the end of the night, when the priests are bragging about how many stacks they've been through, I always say, "I still have 3 full stacks. =P"
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08:52.12ThraePeterLOL: There was an old addon called "RoleplayHelper" which had a TON of random sayings, but I'm not sure if it works anymore.
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08:52.14MelvinI always hate making raid water and then warlocks ask for it.
08:52.27MelvinSo I make them a stack and they ask for food too.
08:52.28ThraeMelvin: Soon, you'll be able to make a fountain!
08:52.34Tekkubis the skos boss around?
08:52.42AFKDuTempeteSkosiris!
08:52.47AFKDuTempetelets find out ;)
08:52.48PeterLOLThrae, I dont even know where to put that text into. guess its an addon on its' own? :>
08:52.51MelvinThrae: I hope that suggestion fails.
08:52.56PeterLOLAnd yeah, RP is quite fun, get to play a lil bit
08:53.05ThraePeterLOL: Yes, you need to make an addon
08:53.05AFKDuTempeteWhy, Melvin?  Warlocks got the soulwell.
08:53.19MelvinAFKDuTempete: Im not a lock. :P
08:53.25ThraeMelvin: You like spending 15 minutes making food and water for your raid?
08:53.35PeterLOLI do
08:53.47MelvinThrae: Doesn't bother me. I do it ahead of time and show up with it made.
08:53.49AFKDuTempeteI didn't say you were.  I was, however, comparing summoning food/water to summoning healthstones.
08:53.56PeterLOLIn raids, i always give people at least 3 stacks each, that'll save me some trouble when they keep coming back for more.
08:54.14AFKDuTempeteyay!
08:54.25TekkubSkos, new layout rocks... but...
08:54.26MelvinAFKDuTempete: Apples to oranges. Yours were 1 reagent each and unique.
08:54.34ThraeI want buffs that last permenantly if Mages get a Water Fountain!
08:54.37Tekkub"Source" ... add a second line like the level column!
08:54.48Tekkub"Drop\nMana-tombs"
08:54.53PeterLOLDid anyone here level a paladin past 50?
08:55.03Tekkub"Quest\nQuest link here"
08:55.08ThraePeterLOL: My little brother did.
08:55.45MelvinI give pallies 1 stack of water, shamans and shadow priests 3 stacks, everyone else gets 2 stacks.
08:55.45AFKDuTempeteI think the volume of items you need to summon makes up for that gap in technicalities.
08:55.45Adystek, how about quest rewards that come from 10 different quests or world drops?
08:55.45ThraePeterLOL: He's 9.
08:55.45Adys(id say dont show anything but..)
08:55.49PeterLOLThrae, Well.. then he cant really say how awful it is, right?
08:55.50TekkubWorld dorps should be labed as world drops, simple enough :P
08:56.01Adyscant be flagged =|
08:56.03MelvinAFKDuTempete: It's only 25 people. Not all even use mana.
08:56.10PeterLOLWant to know if it really is that much of a drag, people are drawing it out to be dreadful
08:56.16Adysbrb
08:56.16ThraeHe loves being a Paladin, and walking around in his full Scarlet Monastary gear
08:56.18Tekkubwhy not,? there's a very consistant pattern to world drops
08:56.21MelvinIt's really no big deal.
08:56.24AFKDuTempeteWell, what are you reasons for NOT wanting it, Melvin?
08:56.28Tekkubthey have a big list of mobs all with tiny rates
08:56.54Tekkubplus if you look at all the BoE blues/purples, they're like, all world dros
08:57.10MelvinAFKDuTempete: I dont want blizzard to cater to mages laziness. I don't want to have something just because another class does. And it is not necessary.
08:57.29AFKDuTempeteYou could set a logirithm to determine if an item is a world drop, couldn't you, tekkub?
08:57.39ThraeMages should only be able to cast Fireball, everything else is laziness
08:57.48Tekkublogirithm?
08:57.58MelvinThrae: lolwut?
08:58.02AFKDuTempeteerr algorithm, sorry, it's late
08:58.34AFKDuTempetequalifiers would be the names of the mobs it drops off, and the zone the mob is in.
08:58.37ThraeTekkub: Why don't you just mine the data from the Armory?
08:58.47MelvinAFKDuTempete: Basically if we got that it would only be because mages said: "Warlocks got this why can't we" and imo that is no good reason.
08:58.49TekkubThrae, ask skos?
08:59.12Tekkubbut from my work on PeriodicTable... World Drops have a very good pattern to then
08:59.47MelvinAFKDuTempete: Warlocks needed it because of the amount of shards it took and the amount of time it took to simply hand them out. Mages can chain counjure and then use the very same item to get mana to conjure more.
08:59.48AFKDuTempeteWell, I think it would really be beneficial.  I can't think of any reason NOT to, other that what you said.  Which isn't really a good defense for keeping it the way it is :)
08:59.56Tekkubnamely, mob-specifics are always quest items, or drop from rares and bosses
09:00.20Tekkuband some "world" drops are really "boss" drops that drop from any boss of a specific level/whatever
09:00.36AFKDuTempetebut you also have drops that drop from specific areas
09:00.39SkosirisDuTempete: I recently started playing a mage, and now hearing you on how fun & mana careless your warlock is, it makes me feels unsure about my choice :P
09:00.41TekkubBoE Blue/Purple?  It's a world drop
09:00.53AFKDuTempetelike recipes
09:01.05ThraeThraeBot: i fire opal collar
09:01.06MelvinAFKDuTempete: If blizzard does this it runs the risk of making mana gems tradeable.
09:01.06ThraeBotThrae: Name: Fire Opal Collar; Rarity: Green; BoE; Neck; <Random Enchant>; Requires L58; Get: World Drop. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25059 ]]
09:01.13Tekkubokey, world drop is not the right word for all of this
09:01.21Tekkubcause there are no true "world" drops
09:01.23AFKDuTempete*nod* I can't think of any BoE purples or blues that aren't world drops
09:01.32ThraeTekkub: That's what Blizzard calls them internally
09:01.33AFKDuTempeteblah
09:01.36Tekkubeverything is a mob type, or a level range, or a zone, or...
09:01.43TekkubExactly thrae
09:01.44AFKDuTempetethat WOULD be nigh game-breaking, Melvin
09:01.50AFKDuTempetedon't get on the slippery slope
09:01.52MelvinPfft.
09:02.05MelvinOnly if they didnt share a cooldown.
09:02.27Tekkubanyway, uh, point was, "Drop" in the source column should give a boss name or an instance, unless it's too wide an area
09:02.37AFKDuTempeteMebbe share a c/d with healtstones
09:02.53AFKDuTempeteif they had done that from the begining, it would be a different story
09:02.55AFKDuTempeteit'd make sense
09:03.05MelvinWhat are you talking about?
09:03.09AFKDuTempetesorry, Sko, I'm arguing with Mel
09:03.16AFKDuTempetewarlocks get healthstones, mages get mana gems
09:03.30MelvinYeah. Healthstone and mana gem cooldowns are shared.
09:03.50AFKDuTempetebut they designed game play in mind of the not having an extra mana pot, on a separate c/d
09:03.55AFKDuTempeteexcept for mages
09:03.55MelvinAnd mana gems do not scale well nor can they be improved. :(
09:03.58AFKDuTempetewho use mana quite fast
09:04.20AFKDuTempeteSko, don't be mad at me because you made a bad choice. =P
09:04.21Adysaye mana gems and evocation suck more as you get better gear
09:04.32Skosirislol
09:04.42MelvinAnd most importantly they cannot crit.
09:04.46AFKDuTempetehealthstones are always viable, esp if they're improved, and you're using fel armor
09:04.47SkosirisI don't know if I did :(
09:04.52AdysAFKDuTempete: i can
09:04.56AFKDuTempeteYOu did, Skosiris.
09:05.05ThraeThraeBot: i ragefury eyepatch
09:05.05ThraeBotThrae: Name: Ragefury Eyepatch; Rarity: Blue; BoP; Head; +9 Stamina; +6 Strength; +132 Armour; Requires L52; 60 Durability; Equip: Increases your critical strike rating by 28.; Drops off: Hurley Blackbreath (Blackrock Depths); Drop Rate: Low. [[ http://www.wowhead.com/?item=11735 ]]
09:05.13AFKDuTempeteyou can what, Adys?
09:05.41AFKDuTempeteAnything besides warlock, priest, or pally is a bad choice.
09:05.42Melvin1364 mana is nothing to a mage :/
09:05.43SkosirisThrae: nice bot
09:06.02ThraeSkosiris: Thanks, it's mostly an armory bot.
09:06.09AFKDuTempetethat's almost 10%
09:06.13TekkubThrae, I demand you rename ThraeBot to BottThot
09:06.19AFKDuTempetelol
09:06.22Skosirislol
09:06.25AdysAFKDuTempete: http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=qu=3:4;cr=72:3:86;crs=2:1:12;crv=0:0:0
09:06.30TekkubThoughtBot
09:06.35ThraeHotBot
09:07.06AFKDuTempeteoh, find a BoE that isn't a world drop
09:07.11ThraeWhy ThoughtBot? Because it's slow and annoying?
09:07.24Adyswoah i didnt know wirts third leg wasnt a world drop
09:07.24Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=9359#contained-in-item
09:07.36MelvinAFKDuTempete: Yeah. But 10% really isnt enough.
09:07.36AFKDuTempeteisn't there a flag that says it's vendored, though?
09:07.59MelvinMages use mana faster than locks and have fewer ways to get it back.
09:08.15AFKDuTempetemeh... spec evocation =P
09:08.21MelvinUnless youre destro. Then it is about even on mana consumption.
09:08.36MelvinAFKDuTempete: There is on evocation talent.
09:08.36AFKDuTempete*nod* or worse, since locks don't usually have the same mana pool
09:08.50MelvinNo^
09:09.27Adysnoob mages should learn to put talent points in the talent that gives +250% total mana
09:09.39Adysamiright
09:09.48Melvin61/0/0 spec rofl.
09:10.24Melvin25% intellect is only 1k more mana.
09:10.36Adyswee
09:11.18DuTempeteThat's right, they changed that, didn't they?
09:11.34DuTempeteAnd you can stop pinging me, Melvin, I know you're talking to me.  Damn noise is giving me a headache. =P
09:14.03MelvinSorry, I had sound off so I didnt realize.
09:14.26PeterLOLWhats druid healing like?
09:15.15MelvinGood for spot healing.
09:15.32DuTempeteIt's pretty similar to priest healing from what I understand.
09:15.42DuTempetea hot, a long heal, and a quick heal
09:15.46DuTempeteplus innervate
09:15.52MelvinJust no bubble or pom.
09:15.53DuTempeteand tranquility
09:15.59MelvinAnd pom owns.
09:16.21DuTempeteBut they have a different method of defense, it's called bear form =P
09:17.08MelvinI mean pom for others not themselves.
09:17.24DuTempeteI think what's the hardest about being a druid healer is no regular rez
09:17.35DuTempeteI wasn't talking about PoM, I ws talking about PW:Shield
09:18.33MelvinWell my arguement stands for that too!
09:18.36MelvinHaha.
09:18.43MelvinShield others.
09:18.54DuTempetetrue
09:20.47MelvinWhat server are you on Du?
09:21.11DuTempeteDrak'thul US
09:21.15FinalXnecrosis still destroys shards <3
09:21.53DuTempetebut why get an addon that size, just to destroy shards?  There's at least one out ther that just does that.
09:22.40FinalXbecause i like the other functions as well?
09:23.00FinalXand it's not like i'm short of memory or cpu :)
09:23.27Skosirisgood night all
09:23.34MelvinI tried those addons and I hated them. >_<
09:23.35DuTempeteI still miss Flexbar :(
09:23.44MelvinNecrosis and Cryolosis
09:23.58DuTempeteI"m using bongos, now
09:24.05DuTempeteit's ok, but still not as wonderful as flexbar
09:24.21DuTempeteAdys!
09:24.25Adysyes?
09:24.29MelvinI just use paged bars for  most things.
09:24.38DuTempeteDon't you sleep?  or did you just wake up?
09:24.40AdysIm using BarTender DuTempete and yes I miss flexbar
09:24.53MelvinAnd I macro a lot of things to save barslots.
09:24.58MelvinAlso using bartender.
09:24.59Adysim not sleeping today or at least not for a little while
09:25.10DuTempeteThe funny thing about Flexbar2, I think all they were missing before it pooped out is slash commands.
09:25.46DuTempeteI remember reading a thread on wowace, even said someone had written slash commands for it, but never put it together with the rest of the code so others could use it
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09:26.23FinalXDuTempete: by the way, if you do know any other addon destroying shards when you have an X amount, please tell me :P
09:26.59DuTempeteI wish I had the patience to write it myself, but I haven't been in a coding mood, lately.
09:27.05DuTempeteSchool is wearing me out.
09:27.16DuTempetecheck on curse, FinalX
09:28.00DuTempeteBesides, I find learning new langs by reading code extremely frustrating.
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09:28.09MelvinI get like that too Du, although sometimes I write php scripts that do small tasks.
09:28.34DuTempeteI'm still in-process with my new website :(
09:28.47MelvinIs it wow-related?
09:28.54DuTempeteOf course, that's mostly because I'm still waiting on my brother for the bg art.
09:28.59DuTempeteNo, it's personal.
09:29.10MelvinAh. Then I wont ask for links.
09:29.25DuTempeteWell, sorta personal.  It's meant for viewing by the public. =P
09:29.33DuTempeteBut it's not ready yet, so there's nothing to show you.
09:29.51FinalXDuTempete: I did check, couldn't find anything quick enough, and remembered necrosis, and got a suggestion for necrosis here as well so went for that :p
09:29.52MelvinFair enough.
09:30.13DuTempeteI'm a writer, so I'm trying to put together a site via comcast with my work on it.
09:30.49DuTempeteI can't afford to buy a private URL
09:31.10DuTempeteand pay for a server, as well
09:31.20MelvinAhh. That's cool. I hope comcast is reliable enough.
09:31.48DuTempeteI've never had any issues.  Of course, my current web site isn't exactly high traffic. =P
09:32.20CorganWhat a fun addon
09:32.22Corganhttp://www.streedo.com/graph.jpg
09:32.30DuTempeteFinalX, I'll check for you
09:32.40Corgan(the graph and pie chart)
09:33.49DuTempeteFinalX, I found one on the first search =P http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/8615/
09:34.11DuTempeteuses ACE2, so if you've got other ace addons, I would first see if you could get it there.
09:35.43Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&1.14425#31795 /cheer
09:35.45DuTempete2: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/8615/
09:35.53Adys100 screenshots waiting approval, norrec is on fire
09:35.58DuTempetehehe, Adys
09:35.58MelvinThat is a neat addon.
09:36.00Adysi approved screenshot 5 hrs ago :(
09:36.03DuTempeteWhat about Hogger?!
09:36.44DuTempeteOne of these days, I should go around getting screenshots for you guys.  That would be fun.
09:37.00DuTempeteIs there a list of pages needing screenshots?
09:37.12AdysDuTempete: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&1.13321#24114 can you beat that?
09:37.24Adysnot yet, but ive asked skosiris for a screenshot yes/no filter
09:37.30DuTempeteWhere's Rabbit?
09:37.35DuTempeteor Cow?
09:39.04DuTempeteman, you didn't do all the critters, Adys?
09:39.08DuTempeteGet on it!
09:39.13Adys=)
09:39.17Adysi did a lot of crates
09:39.35DuTempeteI noticed...
09:39.44DuTempeteyou took pics of boxes, good for you.
09:40.14DuTempeteand you didn't even use contextual pics, either.
09:40.18DuTempetejust the box.
09:40.26MelvinSpeaking of screenshots what do you guys do when graphics get changed?
09:40.41MelvinDelete the old screenshots or keep them?
09:40.42DuTempetewhat do you mean, Melvin?
09:40.49DuTempetegraphics in game?
09:40.52MelvinOld soulwell vs new one.
09:41.07MelvinOld incinerate vs new one and so on.
09:41.10DuTempeteah
09:41.28DuTempeteI liked the old soulwell better :(
09:41.32DuTempeteIt was sexier.
09:42.00DuTempeteNot Adys sexy, but definitely sexy.
09:42.09Adys:o
09:42.24Adys:)
09:42.45DuTempeteok, boys and girls, it's a quarter to 6am.  It's my bed time.
09:43.15MelvinAdys: Do you know about the screenshots?
09:43.15DuTempeteLemme know when Sko gets that screenshot filter going, and I'll be a screenshotting fiend. =P
09:43.22MelvinNight Du.
09:43.23DuTempeteUntil then, I'm too lazy to figure it out myself.
09:43.26AdysMelvin: which ones?
09:43.30Adysnn DuTempete :)
09:43.51MelvinDo you delete screenshots when grapgics like soulwell get changed?
09:43.56Adysno
09:43.59Adysi keep the old screenshots
09:44.00MelvinAh.
09:49.14AdysTheOnyx: deleted your larva screenshot by mistake
09:49.26Corganownt
09:53.08AdysMelvin: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28176#screenshots
09:54.47MelvinAhh.
09:56.07MelvinThis is offtopic but I have 17-pound catfish in my offhand on armory and I clicked reccommend upgrade and it linked me to all the depleted items.
09:56.27Bleeterdepleted?
09:57.08MelvinYou have to infuse them with apexis shards to use them.
09:57.13Adyslol
09:57.17Adysawesome
09:57.20Bleeteroh yeah, them... it's getting late
09:57.37MelvinAnd none of them are offhand items.
09:58.32Melvinhttp://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Black+Dragonflight&n=Melvin
09:58.32Adysphew
09:58.35Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?latest=screenshots
09:58.43Adysno screenshot left
09:58.48Adystired
10:00.24MelvinMe too.
10:00.30MelvinI think I might go to bed.
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10:00.48AcTiVaTeAnyone here using wine 0.9.42?
10:01.25AcTiVaTeTo run WoW that is ;)
10:01.42Bleeterthink I'm on .43
10:02.03Bleeter<PROTECTED>
10:02.03Bleeterwine-0.9.42
10:02.08Bleeteryou're in luck
10:02.39Bleeterif it's about the wowhead app not working properly, I think they know ;)
10:02.52AcTiVaTeWell no ;)
10:03.07AcTiVaTeIt's about my sound crapping out when I change workspace to look at Thott or something
10:03.09Bleeterheh, ok, go for it. might be able to help, maybe not.
10:03.10AcTiVaTeUsed to work great
10:03.31AcTiVaTeBut just asked in #winehq and sound seems to be improved more in .43
10:03.37Bleeterhmm, I only run single workspace... d3d or ogl?
10:03.38AcTiVaTeSo just have to wait till my distro packages it ;)
10:03.44AcTiVaTeOGL
10:03.48AcTiVaTeOnly way to go in *nix ;)
10:03.49Bleeteryeah, I was gunna try to build .43 this weekend, didn't get to it
10:04.15Bleeterthe d3d's improved lots recently, still not production ready for wow though (the occasional infinite loop hang)
10:04.20AcTiVaTeThey've been changing entire ALSA code around too
10:04.27AcTiVaTeHence my sound probs hehe
10:04.35Bleeteryeah, there was a google summer of code project to improve wine's alsa
10:04.47BleeterI'm assuming they're merging some of that stuff in
10:04.54Bleeterfrom reading the announcements
10:04.55AcTiVaTeIt was hardly needed too
10:05.11AcTiVaTeRunning Ventrilo required an expert level in writing .asoundrc files
10:05.18Bleeteryes, well... if you try and play on the 2.2 PTR with any kind of sound under Wine... it just won't
10:05.36AcTiVaTeOh lol, can hardly manage to get my char to 70
10:05.39Bleeterus WoW Winers are hoping that the ALSA updates will fix it
10:05.40AcTiVaTeLet alone play PTR's ;)
10:05.57AcTiVaTeI used to be a die hard raider back at 60.
10:06.12AcTiVaTeBut after TBC I just never got along again
10:06.21AcTiVaTeMy main is atm still only 66 ;)
10:06.47Bleeterso, what Window Manager are you using, and which distro? Fedora 7 XFCE here
10:06.57AcTiVaTeMandriva Cooker here
10:07.06AcTiVaTeUsing Gnome and Metacity
10:07.14AcTiVaTeif I'm not using Compiz Fusion
10:07.29Bleeteryeah, I've got all the beryl/compiz foo turned off
10:07.46Bleeterjust created some more workspaces here, flipped between them. no problems immediately seen.
10:07.55AcTiVaTeOr heared? :P
10:08.00AcTiVaTeI lose sound when changing workspace
10:08.14Bleeterthat's weird.. nah, sounds fine
10:08.23AcTiVaTeAnd what sound you use in wine?
10:08.31BleeterOSS
10:08.39AcTiVaTeAnd which SoundOutputSystem in WTF.cfg?
10:09.15BleeterSET SoundOutputSystem "1"
10:10.42Bleeterreally, WoW Audio in Wine is mostly voodoo
10:10.54Bleeternot really sure what I could recommend to you
10:12.43AcTiVaTeOkies cya
10:13.11AcTiVaTeSo far setting to OSS and SoundOutputSystem 1 still has same resulst. Changing workspace in Metacity kills the sound
10:25.54AdysGnite peeps
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15:12.53AuggieHello wowhead folks
15:15.20AuggieDoes there happen to be a site admin around?
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15:16.51Mez`why hello there 8)
15:17.04Mez`pals i found something funky on the site :x
15:17.08Mez`http://www.wowhead.com/?search=gruul#npcs
15:17.13Mez`click "gruul the dragonkiller"
15:17.18Mez`i demand an explanation for this!
15:17.54Crevox...
15:17.56Crevox............
15:17.57Crevox.....................
15:18.06Mez`yeah
15:18.12AuggieYeah, that's why I was here... wanted to make sure people knew about that
15:18.20Mez`:D!
15:18.25Mez`i lol'd quite hard though
15:20.23AuggieI didn't think it was terribly funny, glad I wasn't at work
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15:23.56jkwSite been hacked or what? ._.
15:24.03Mez`:D
15:24.34jkwWas checking Scryer faction and I got some big phat shemale porn in my face. Very disgusting.
15:24.45Mez`happens on gruul also
15:24.54TecnoBratdammit
15:24.59TecnoBratno one online
15:25.03Mez`rofl
15:25.07jkw"Service Temporarily Unavailable"
15:25.10jkwat scryer now
15:25.36jkwGruul one is still there though... eeew
15:26.02Mez`protip
15:26.07Mez`don't look at it
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15:27.06TecnoBratAdys|xchat
15:27.09TecnoBratAdys
15:27.25TecnoBratI need a comment moderator!
15:27.30TecnoBratloller11 is the user
15:27.47TecnoBratcomment id 136391
15:28.14Mez`might want to take care of the meatspin stuff first
15:28.27oddigyyikes
15:28.31TecnoBratthat is the meatspin stuff
15:28.35Mez`oh
15:28.36TecnoBratits in a comment
15:28.43TecnoBratthats why I need a comment moderator
15:28.50Mez`isn't it part of the whole thing.
15:28.55TecnoBratno
15:29.01Mez`oh
15:29.19oddigywhy in bloody blazes are comments just not... limited to text only with automatic url parsing? ergh
15:31.51TecnoBratanyways ...
15:32.05TecnoBratI've emailed someone who has their email forwarding to their cell
15:32.12TecnoBrathopefully he will get it shortly
15:32.35TecnoBratTheOnyx
15:32.38TecnoBratping
15:32.41TecnoBratwake up
15:32.41TecnoBrat:P
15:32.52GaZ-__lol meatspin
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15:34.40robotuschSo, any drama over the new Gruul? :I
15:35.02Mez`yup robotusch
15:35.18Mez`we've found out it's a guy posting it in comments.
15:35.22robotusch:o
15:35.27oddigyoh shock.
15:36.41TecnoBratgimme a couple guys
15:36.52TecnoBratlemme see if I can find out how to give you a link to rate the comment down
15:36.58TecnoBratat least then it will be hidden
15:39.25TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?comment=rate&id=136391&rating=-1
15:39.30TecnoBratI think that should do it
15:39.40robotuschI hit it
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15:40.29Mez`TecnoBrat: this is for the gruul thing now?
15:42.04TecnoBratoh that wont actually work :(
15:42.11robotuschwon't the downvoting be useless anyway? the code is still on the page :/
15:42.13TecnoBratcause its </script> is killing the javascript array
15:42.17TecnoBratblah
15:42.24TecnoBratrobotusch, you are right
15:42.28TecnoBratits not that its showing in the comment
15:42.33TecnoBratits that it is breaking sooner than that
15:42.53TecnoBratAdys|xchat!@!!$@$@$@#^@#$^#^$
15:42.57TecnoBratTheOnyx!#$!@$@#$%#$
15:43.21robotuschyeah, on my end I forgot about the deletion of comment part as well
15:43.33robotuschor is that a manual thing? or is it automated?
15:44.11robotuschI've had a few comments deleted (two of which looked good enough to me, but meh)
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15:44.38TecnoBratits delayed
15:44.43TecnoBratwe need this gone sooner than that
15:44.55HartlineHello?
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15:45.07aslambilalhello?
15:45.25HartlineAlright, making sure.  I'm not very familiar with anything having to do with IRC. >_>
15:45.33robotuschyes, we know about the new & improved Gruul page
15:45.43aslambilalok lolol
15:45.56aslambilalwhy hasnt anyone disabled it till further notice?
15:45.59Crevoxthat's very damaging to the site :|
15:46.41HartlineWoah...
15:46.43TecnoBratI'm trying my best
15:46.50TecnoBratI'm trying to get ahold of someone
15:54.01skizmnice exploit
15:56.43HartlineNot really, it's kinda stupid.
15:57.12TecnoBratAdys|xchat!
15:57.46HartlineEh?
15:59.25skizmit's not like i'm referring to the content he chose to put up
15:59.56HartlineEh, well.
16:00.11skizmand fyi, it may have been posted in a comment but rating it down isn't going to do any good because it's replacing the entire page
16:00.29Mez`we know~
16:00.46skizmok
16:06.45TheOnyxTecnoBrat: comment is not deleted :P
16:07.01TecnoBratTheOnyx, I need you to delete it
16:07.01TheOnyxTecnoBrat: or someone else has added it again
16:07.10TheOnyxTecnoBrat: I'd love to if I had a link to it
16:07.10*** join/#wowhead Losnar (n=Losnar@adsl-070-145-185-201.sip.jax.bellsouth.net)
16:07.25TecnoBratcomment id 136391
16:07.27TecnoBratif that helps
16:07.30TheOnyxnop
16:07.33TecnoBratfuck
16:07.34TheOnyxneed object
16:07.34TecnoBratblah
16:07.37TheOnyxwait
16:07.38TheOnyxone
16:07.40TheOnyxhackng the planet
16:07.43TecnoBratkk
16:07.45TecnoBratdo iiiiiiiiiiitttttt
16:08.11Losnaryes let TheOnyx haxxor the gibson!
16:08.14TecnoBratI'm going to get sko to give me moderator :P
16:08.37TecnoBratbecause this is just dumb
16:09.52TheOnyxNah
16:09.56TheOnyxTecnoBrat: Wouldnt help\
16:10.09TheOnyxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=615
16:10.14TheOnyxThat's where the comment was made
16:10.20TheOnyxhe needs to delete from db directly
16:10.31TheOnyxthen, he needs to remove HTML from comments
16:10.38TheOnyxwhich I just assumed he did when he implemented
16:10.44TheOnyxI need to have a talk with this boy
16:10.48TheOnyxthis is a classic exploit
16:10.57TheOnyxI'm surprised it got in
16:10.59skizmi'm pretty sure it's an exploit, not that he actually didn't remove html from comments
16:11.00TheOnyx:(
16:11.29TheOnyxskizm: no
16:11.36TheOnyxskizm: all the person did was throw in an iframe
16:12.13robotuschtalk to the boy & then send him a generously charged bill for whatever work you've had to put in on a sunday
16:12.51skizmhe had to put </script>
16:13.02TecnoBratBLAH
16:13.08TecnoBratI've emailed Sko, and Mal
16:13.16TecnoBratso hopefully, one of them gets back to me
16:13.41TheOnyxAnywho, I coded a private/public message board system  for a series of hospices a few years ago... this is one of the things it accounted for
16:13.58TheOnyx{id:136402,type:4,typeId:615,subject:'Gladiator\'s Felshroud',preview:'</script><iframe src="http://www.meatspin.com" height="400" width="100%">',user:'loller11',rating:1,date:'2007/08/12 09:56:02',elapsed:4096,deleted:0}
16:14.04TheOnyxThere's the offending comment
16:14.30TheOnyxskizm: all he did was end the script tag
16:14.33TheOnyxthen throw in an iframe
16:14.40TheOnyxpretty classic
16:14.49skizmright, so it's not like just putting in some html is going to enable that
16:15.03skizmregardless i'm sure it was just an oversight
16:15.17TecnoBratTheOnyx, thats not the only one.
16:16.02TheOnyxTecnoBrat: I'd imagine not
16:16.23TheOnyxskizm: Yeah, I know... jusat gonna jab at sko a lil bit
16:16.29skizmheh
16:17.46robotuschugh
16:17.53robotuschmade the mistake of looking at this profile
16:18.03robotuschforgot that it displays all the comments he's made >_>
16:18.24skizm:)
16:19.40*** join/#wowhead Skosiris (n=dgsg@modemcable155.156-83-70.mc.videotron.ca)
16:19.45*** mode/#wowhead [+o Skosiris] by ChanServ
16:20.00robotuschSkosiris to the rescue!
16:20.20TheOnyxI'm already bringing him up to speed in PMs
16:23.00TecnoBratSkosiris!
16:23.06TecnoBratloller11
16:23.09TecnoBratdelete him
16:23.12TecnoBratand all of his comments
16:23.13TecnoBratasap
16:23.36TecnoBrathes showing meatspin by exploiting the comments on a bunch of pages
16:24.23TheOnyxhe knows
16:24.41TecnoBratYea, I emailed him, hopefully he saw that too
16:24.45TecnoBratI also emailed Mal
16:24.49TecnoBrathehe
16:25.19robotuschcue x number of 'Is wowhead dead?' threads :P
16:25.55HartlineIn other news, is there a problem with WoW crashing on Vista?
16:26.20skizmi played it on RC1 and retail home premium x64 and they both worked without a problem
16:26.29LosnarI'd be surprized if there wasn't a problem with WoW crashing on Vista
16:26.32skizmbut that was a while ago
16:26.39TecnoBratin other news .. I forgot to put money on my CC, so my wow is expired
16:26.42TecnoBratdoh!
16:26.59TecnoBratoh well, I can live without wow for a day anyways :P
16:27.25HartlineBecause, it does a lot. =/
16:29.12MistelOkay, here's one for you..
16:29.51TecnoBratya?
16:30.55MistelWhy does the PTR Client keep forgetting my keybindings?
16:31.01skizmtry disabling aero and see if it keep scrashing
16:31.04TecnoBratstr_replace('<', '&lt;', $message);
16:31.05TecnoBratfixed!
16:31.06skizmkeeps crashing*
16:31.14TecnoBratand of course the oposite also :P
16:31.20MistelO_O
16:31.59TheOnyxSkosiris: http://www.wowhead.com/?latest=comments
16:32.00skizmMistel possibly because it wasn't "installed" on the system, so vista doesn't see it as a directory that should have admin access, so when it tries to save your config files it gets blocked by vista and fails
16:32.02TheOnyxno comments listed
16:32.06TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?user=loller11
16:32.10TecnoBratwoot
16:32.12TecnoBratlooks good
16:32.41TheOnyxSkosiris: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19852#comments:id=136375
16:32.45TheOnyxi cant downmod or delete
16:33.12TecnoBratoh, it didnt work on that page
16:33.12TecnoBratyea
16:33.41TecnoBratalso, http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19044
16:33.45TecnoBratstill shows it
16:33.57MistelSo, how would I fix that Skizim?
16:34.13skizmMistel well...  you could try to run the PTR client with admin privileges
16:34.42MistelSee? That sounds perfectly logical and intelligent.
16:34.57MistelThank you, sorry for spelling your name wrong.
16:35.03skizmlol, it's fine -_-
16:35.20SkosirisTheOnyx: pages are cached, but I just forced a refresh on that one
16:35.22Skosirisany other?
16:35.41skizmprobably most of the pages you see in his comments
16:35.47Skosirisright, hold on
16:35.48TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=666#comments:id=136401
16:35.57TecnoBratlots of em
16:35.58TheOnyxSkosiris: I'd just expire all his comments
16:35.59TecnoBratall of his comments
16:36.11TheOnyx*all pages with his comemnts
16:36.19TheOnyx{number:22,id:136391,user:'loller11',body:'</script><iframe src="http://www.meatspin.com" height="400" width="100%">',date:'2007/08/12 09:46:50',rating:-3,indent:0,roles:0,hidden:0,raters:[[27873,-1],[30867,-1],[38190,-1],[46201,-1],[78663,1]],replyTo:136391}];
16:36.26TheOnyxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?latest=comments
16:36.45TheOnyxcomments page works nwo
16:37.10TecnoBratyea
16:37.22Inc`Damn trigger happy bf2 admins
16:38.18TecnoBratgood thing is that he at least didnt add some sort of keylogger
16:38.40TheOnyxTecnoBrat: that you know of O_O
16:38.59Skosirisno one uses IE here anyway
16:39.20skizmthat's not a very safe bet ;p
16:39.24TheOnyxSkosiris: I know you don't!
16:39.38TheOnyxSkosiris: I;ve caught a few bugs that were IE only >_<
16:39.59Crevoxff ftw
16:40.11skizmmore like memoryleak
16:40.32TheOnyxlooks like no one else tried to exploit
16:40.35TheOnyxyeah
16:40.47TheOnyxfor all that I love firefox for, it it a memory hog
16:41.08TheOnyxusing it at work while trying to run a webapp as robust as ours on the same laptop == crawl sometimes
16:41.15skizmwowhead?
16:41.18TheOnyxno
16:41.20skizmoh ok
16:41.23TheOnyxI work for another company
16:41.39TheOnyxWhen I dev, I have an instance of the server app I help write running on the laptop
16:41.40skizmwell yeah i figured that but i didn't know if you were referring to this or the company when you said "ours" ;p
16:41.54Skosiristhe good thing is that the guy managed to let us know about this bug quickly :)
16:42.04TheOnyxindeed!
16:42.08TheOnyxonly have overnight exposure
16:42.11skizmyeah he was just trying to help you out ... ;p
16:42.14TheOnyxhaha
16:42.32TecnoBratSkosiris, did you actually get my emails yet?
16:42.37TecnoBrator did Mal get ahold of you?
16:42.38TecnoBrathaha
16:42.44TecnoBratcause I emailed you both :P
16:42.59Skosirispersonally or to feedback@ ?
16:43.26TecnoBratpersonally ... I think
16:43.31TecnoBratsee my pm
16:44.21TheOnyxSkosiris:
16:44.23TheOnyxhttp://www.wowhead.com/?latest=screenshots
16:44.27TheOnyxyour fix broke that
16:44.36TheOnyxsee picture captions
16:45.34Inc`Don't assume no one uses IE Sko ;]
16:46.04Crevox75% of the world uses IE cause they don't know any better :)
16:46.04TheOnyxInc`: pretty sure he was joking :)
16:46.08Inc`hehe, not sure that's a joke
16:46.22TecnoBrat(@Skosiris) no one uses IE here anyway
16:46.26TecnoBrathe also said "here" :P
16:46.27Inc`Although, MS has been getting better about bug turnaround
16:46.52robotuschI use IE, but then, I have bells & whistles going off if anything tries to sneak through
16:46.54CrevoxIE is bent on being 'secure' yet it's too easy for a virus to get into IE, yet FF it doesn't
16:47.42*** part/#wowhead Mez` (n=6441mezm@c-82-192-226-121.customer.ggaweb.ch)
16:47.55TecnoBratI need some breakfast now
16:48.05LosnarRemember though, the people that write malware target that which is most popular
16:48.14Crevoxtrue
16:48.25TecnoBratwe need a facebook for wow :P
16:49.42skizmwww.wowfaces.com
16:49.51skizmer www.wowfaces.de
16:50.14skizmand http://geekily.com/wowfaces/
16:50.23TecnoBratokay
16:50.24skizmbut that site seems broken
16:50.25TecnoBratwe need a GOOD one
16:50.40oddigyheh, latest comments page is showing meatspin again ;(
16:51.25oddigya rather insane number of them as well
16:51.38winkillerlol tec
16:51.41winkiller+999
16:52.00TecnoBratwinkiller?
16:52.07winkiller[18:50:42] (+TecnoBrat) we need a GOOD one
16:52.15TecnoBrathehe yea
16:52.30winkillerwhen I see that page I'd gladly take out my 2nd nationality and deny me being German...
16:52.44TecnoBratI make sites based on the fact that the current ones suck
16:52.56TecnoBratthats why I started writing http://www.warcraftbosses.com
16:53.01winkillerwho doesn't :)
16:53.04TecnoBratnever finished .. but thats not the point :P
16:53.07TecnoBratbosskillers.com sucks
16:53.26winkillerI use the wiki for tactics
16:53.43winkillerbut tehre's another wow social thing
16:53.46winkillerjust forgot the name
16:54.08winkillerwww.warcraftsocial.com porbably
16:54.25winkillerand gameriot maybe
16:54.33winkillerin the future
16:54.47skizmthat site looks like a portal site D:
16:54.58skizmi clicked on it and i was like "oh i guess it's parked"
16:55.57skizmwinkiller the newest member's photo is interesting
16:56.10winkillerwhere? social or faces?
16:56.21skizmsocial
16:56.26TecnoBratheh, I started that site on 06/24/07 00:06:26
16:56.48winkillerxchar.de another german one
16:56.57winkillerand they even removed eu servers
17:01.39*** join/#wowhead avehkai (n=matt@203-206-228-189.dyn.iinet.net.au)
17:01.59winkillerTecnoBrat: http://www.warcraftbosses.com/account/show?username=tecnobrat -> error
17:02.21CrevoxIs wowhead safe to use yet?
17:03.35TecnoBratwinkiller, that user actually doesnt exist :P
17:03.41TecnoBratbut it should say that .. yea
17:03.46winkilleryou linked it in about
17:04.01TecnoBratyea, well its really beta
17:04.37oddigyCrevox: no.
17:04.43oddigyat least it wasn't last i looked
17:04.46winkillermade with what tools?
17:04.53oddigythe new comments page is totally spammed with meatspin
17:05.32TecnoBratwinkiller, its ruby on rails
17:05.46winkillerah, i see
17:07.23SkosirisAdys: nice shots  http://www.wowhead.com/?user=Adys#screenshots
17:07.48TheOnyxAdys|xchat: I deleted my larva shot :(
17:08.04Skosirislol @  http://www.wowhead.com/?user=loller12
17:08.25TheOnyxAWWW
17:08.29TheOnyxLOOK AT HIM
17:08.32TheOnyxHE TRIES SO HARD
17:08.40TheOnyxIt's cute, really.
17:09.13skizmkek
17:09.15Losnarno note really
17:09.20Losnarhe needs to diaf
17:09.35TecnoBratyea, hes trying again
17:09.58TheOnyxI saw we should let him since we're all watching
17:10.04TheOnyxHe can QA for us
17:10.14TheOnyxand if he finds a bug it gets fixed fast++
17:10.37TecnoBratwonder if hes in here :P
17:10.46skizmwouldn't be hard to find out at all
17:11.12oddigyunless he's hiding behind some proxies
17:11.28Losnardo you log IPs for the user adding comments?
17:11.29oddigyon irc i mean
17:11.48TheOnyxSkosiris: does wowhead log IPs from commenters?
17:12.12oddigyit had better, on the admin end at least
17:12.16winkillerhopefully not! or my IPz are stolen!
17:12.31TheOnyxI AM UN UR COMPUTAR, STEALIN UR IPS
17:12.54Losnarthere is always /ipconfig releaseall
17:13.01TecnoBratyea
17:13.01[dRaCo]IN UR WOWHAED!
17:13.15TecnoBratI have a addon that will search all of the channels I am in for an IP of a user
17:13.19TecnoBratit caches hostnames, etc
17:13.26oddigyLosnar: um, so you can get a new local ip from your router? yeah. that's the ticket
17:13.43oddigyTecnoBrat: that's rad
17:13.48TheOnyxTotally.
17:13.53TheOnyxLosnar: is mad leet
17:13.56TheOnyxdon't even mess
17:13.56barleduc|Sjoukelineage rules!
17:14.09Losnaryou missed the poin there oddigy
17:14.12barleduc|Sjoukeoops wrong chat
17:14.20oddigypoindexter
17:14.39*** part/#wowhead barleduc|Sjouke (n=sjoukeve@adsl-dc-2754e.adsl.wanadoo.nl)
17:14.51oddigya user with a dynamic ip from their isp will come back with a different one, but it'll still show the same provider
17:16.27SkosirisTheOnyx: yes, Wowhead does
17:16.40SkosirisI banned his 2 accounts and 2 the ip addresses tied to them
17:16.46Skosirisand the 2*
17:17.13oddigyhow about disabling disabling < > characters in comments? :/
17:17.20Skosirisnot necessary
17:17.28oddigywhat's the workaround?
17:17.37TheOnyxno workaround, Skosiris fixed ;)
17:17.51oddigyby adding some other code, or just by banning the users?
17:18.04TheOnyxhe just inverted the flux capacitor
17:18.10TheOnyxpretty simple, really
17:18.56skizmoddigy are you the guy from stc or some other such similar site
17:19.00skizmthat doesn't seem like a very common name
17:19.16skizmoh wait, the psf thing
17:19.41oddigyskizm: yeah
17:19.50oddigysmall world
17:19.54oddigyanyway lunchtime, be back in a bit
17:24.52SkosirisCan you guys find a user that should have all of his comments deleted?
17:25.26SkosirisI tweaked the Ban user admin feature so that it refreshes all comment pages accordingly, so that deleted comments no longer show up immediately after the ban
17:25.40RawsI can spam for you so you can ban and delete me
17:25.42skizmyou can test on my name if you want
17:25.48skizmit's Arcueid on the site
17:26.27TheOnyxSkosiris: want me to make a dummy account?
17:26.40skizmoh cool i guess both my comments have been deleted anyway ;D
17:26.42Skosirisskizm: please post some crap
17:26.59SkosirisTheOnyx: skizm will do it :)
17:27.01Rawsbest request ever
17:27.05TheOnyx10-4
17:27.16skizmk
17:27.27TecnoBrat"please go to my website, and post a bunch of shit that I wouldn't want on there, thanks"
17:27.32Skosirislol
17:27.37Losnarhaha
17:28.04TheOnyxSkosiris:  who has ban-hammer privs?
17:28.34TecnoBratI wish I had ban-hammer privs this morning .. lol
17:28.39SkosirisTheOnyx: http://www.wowhead.com/?aboutus , minus Adys
17:28.41skizmjust 2 comments should be fine, right
17:28.46Skosirisyeah
17:28.53TheOnyxk
17:29.14TecnoBratskizm, whats your username?
17:29.15skizmfor some reason they didn't show up
17:29.21skizm[13:26] <skizm> it's Arcueid on the site
17:29.24TecnoBratkk
17:29.47TecnoBrathmmm yea, they dont
17:30.16TecnoBratdo they show up on the item, zone, whatever you commented on?
17:31.06skizmi guess they were too short
17:31.24skizmwell yeah, they're showing up on the item but not on my profile page
17:31.29skizmhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=28319#comments
17:31.43Skosirisaight let's see
17:31.58skizmhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=19361
17:32.18Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?user=Arcueid
17:32.27Skosirisall deleted, and the pages are refreshed already
17:32.36skizmgj ;p
17:33.13skizmdo you have some filter text in comments?
17:33.21skizmi put "hakkar will eat ur soul lol" and it didn't show up
17:33.35TheOnyxSkosiris++
17:33.47TheOnyxActually I think I owe you a few
17:33.56TheOnyxSkosiris++
17:33.59TheOnyxThere.
17:34.11skizmmore like Skosiris+=4
17:34.18TheOnyxnah
17:34.20skizm:|
17:34.28TheOnyxkarma scrupt doesnt do that
17:34.45skizmidk what that is so i'll just have to trust you
17:34.57TheOnyx*script
17:35.03skizmheh i figured that much ;p
17:35.11TheOnyxI don't have the best relationship with keyboards.
17:35.15TheOnyxIt's pretty love/hate.
17:35.50TheOnyxYou might ask how I reconcile that fact with being a programmer.
17:35.56TheOnyxOne word: wifflebat
17:36.03SkosirisTheOnyx++
17:36.08Skosirisdoes this actually do something? :P
17:36.19TheOnyxSkosiris: http://www.bleeter.id.au/irc_stats/wowhead.html
17:36.28TheOnyxctrl+f 'karma'
17:36.53TheOnyx-- works too
17:36.59TheOnyxloller12--
17:37.00Losnarhe isn't kidding about the wifflebat thing, he keeps one by his desk
17:37.00TecnoBratinfobot, Skosiris++
17:37.07TecnoBratinfobot, karma Skosiris
17:37.07infobotskosiris has karma of 1
17:37.09TheOnyxI do!
17:37.11TecnoBratinfobot, Skosiris++
17:37.17TheOnyxhrrmm
17:37.18TecnoBratthere you go :P
17:37.35*** join/#wowhead bibibibi (n=kahjsdkh@modemcable155.156-83-70.mc.videotron.ca)
17:37.38TheOnyxtwo karma methods will get confusing
17:37.40*** mode/#wowhead [+o mystadio] by ChanServ
17:37.48TheOnyxI like the way where i dont have to type infobot
17:37.54TheOnyxor tab complete him
17:38.12TheOnyxbut bot > web page script
17:38.13TheOnyxhrrmm
17:38.24TheOnyxwe need to hack the bot!
17:40.33TecnoBratOMG
17:40.45TecnoBratmystadio is actually here!
17:40.52TecnoBrat:P
17:41.04mystadiohey
17:41.24TheOnyxWowhead has another developer? ;)
17:42.19TecnoBrathaha
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17:44.33*** mode/#wowhead [+v Sky2042] by ChanServ
17:44.42*** kick/#wowhead [Skosiris!n=kahjsdkh@modemcable155.156-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] by mystadio (mystadio)
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17:44.57Sky2042owned!
17:45.39TecnoBratlol
17:45.45TecnoBratyou missed all of the excitement Sky2042
17:45.59Sky2042well, retell it for me :)
17:46.04Skosirisdid someone take a screenshot ?
17:46.10TecnoBratI didn't, no
17:46.14Skosiris:(
17:46.23TecnoBratSky2042, we had some meatspin on wowhead
17:46.30Skosirislol
17:46.30Sky2042ewwwwwww
17:47.55TecnoBratmy son was just yelling at me
17:47.57TecnoBratWRRRIIITCH
17:48.01TecnoBratI'm like .. wtf?
17:48.15TecnoBrathe was saying "reach" and he wanted a cookie from the top shelf
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18:43.20Skosiriswow
18:43.32Skosiriswe received 3-4 complaints via email from the same guy
18:43.43TecnoBratabout?
18:43.53Skosirisclaiming he would tell the "Web Authorities" if we don't remove the "offending pornography"
18:44.13Sky2042pron?
18:44.17Sky2042where?
18:44.18Sky2042:P
18:44.21TecnoBrathaha
18:44.21Skosirislike this was intended lol
18:44.33TecnoBratSkosiris, and like any "web authorities" would care
18:45.07Skosiris"I just want you to know that I have a screen recording of the
18:45.07Skosirisoffending porn and I am prepared to submit it to web authorities
18:45.07Skosirisalong with the code, date and other information.
18:45.07SkosirisI want to know what is going on right now? Children of all ages view
18:45.07Skosirisyour website and this type of pornography will not be accepted or
18:45.07Skosirisapproved of by your sponsors or viewers.
18:45.09SkosirisI want answers right now.
18:46.48Skosiris"
18:47.12AdysMorning
18:47.27TecnoBratAdys, you missed all of the excitement also!
18:47.36AdysI got a long scrollback
18:47.41TecnoBratlol
18:47.59TecnoBratI'll give you the short story ... wowhead + meatspin + comment exploit
18:50.02Sky2042oh... i saw one of those deleted comments
18:50.36TecnoBratyea
18:50.45Losnarwasn't pretty
18:50.50TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?user=loller12
18:50.51TecnoBrathttp://www.wowhead.com/?user=loller11
18:51.28TecnoBratof course, that just shows the code now, won't actually show meatspin :P
18:51.49TecnoBratboooo no http://www.wowhead.com/?user=loller13 yet :P
18:51.55Skosirislol
18:52.46Adyshttp://www.wowhead.com/?npc=19622&refresh#comments:0
18:52.52Adysnever seen so many comments
18:53.00Adysfirst time i see two pages of it at least
18:53.03KasoI like his testing scripts "<script>alert(1)</script>" "</script><script>alert("haxx")</script>"
18:53.46Adysoh jeezz
18:53.48AdysHis level is ?? to any level including level 70's; This would mean his minimal level is 80
18:53.49Adys(There was a rumor floating around on a few servers that if an npcs level is ?? that means its 500... this is obviously fake because of the insane damage done, armor, resistances, dodge, and parry rating would make the NPC unbeatable because you literally could not touch it)
18:54.05Adysthese guys still exist? I thought we killed them all during the vanilla wow beta
18:54.18Sky2042LOL
18:54.37TecnoBratLOL
18:54.56TecnoBratyea .. especially since it means that he is 3 levels above the highest level in the instance :P
18:55.21TecnoBratand that was confirmed by a blue .. way back when TBC was announced
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18:58.50Adyskael thas comments are a lore discussion forum >>
19:00.57TecnoBratheh
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19:02.28Sky2042truth adys
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19:03.43KasoAdys man, they changd that 500+ UI display thing like in the first bloody patch
19:03.56Adysnot even that kaso
19:03.58Adysin the betas they did
19:04.06Kasoeven worse >.<
19:04.08Adysi remember my addons breaking lol
19:04.19Kasoits crappy thottbot comments teaching the noobs stupid stuff
19:04.35Adysya
19:05.03TecnoBratnah
19:05.07TecnoBrat500+ was live
19:05.10TecnoBratcause I wasn't in beta
19:05.17Adysyou make sense
19:07.12Viandehi all
19:07.15Skosiriscan Undead players do the quest in Ghostlands?
19:07.27Skosirisquests*
19:08.43AdysYa
19:08.49Adyswhy wouldnt they? :P
19:09.45TheOnyxAdys: undead can't quest on sunstrider isle
19:09.53TheOnyxso it's not a completely out of line question
19:10.01AdysTheOnyx: they can
19:10.23Adysso it's not a completely out of line answer either :P
19:57.28AdysThe evil guard of #wowhead was Adys who got this reputation after kicking out 4 people.
19:57.29AdysExample:
19:57.29Adys<PROTECTED>
19:57.29Adys-09:29:38- Kick» (Fisker-) was kicked by (Adys) (Adys)
19:58.12TheOnyx:-/
19:59.38winkillerlol
19:59.45winkillerAdys steals ops in all channels.
19:59.45Rawssomeone mentioned Adys being power-hungry?
19:59.46winkillertrue story
20:00.13winkillerha, not on this network!
20:00.20*** mode/#wowhead [-o winkiller] by Adys
20:01.14winkillerwow that won't even work on some networks
20:01.24Adys:D
20:01.27Adyshttp://wow.tecnobrat.com/ircstats/wowhead_relmap.png hahahah thats awesome
20:01.41Adyslove how infobot is on the side and malgayne/ray/adys in the middle
20:01.51RawsI am the lone ranger
20:01.54winkillerah hyperion
20:01.58Rawsalong with zushiba
20:02.27winkilleroh noes, the map again
20:02.58TheOnyx<PROTECTED>
20:03.11TheOnyxLiek,w hat it's based on..
20:03.15Adysprobably catches nicks said
20:03.16TheOnyxpeople who say other's nicks?
20:03.18winkilleryes
20:03.18Rawsaye
20:03.22winkillerand nick: is stronger
20:03.27winkillerthan just mentioning iirc
20:03.35TheOnyxnod
20:03.35winkilleralso actions
20:03.38Rawsheuristics are fascinating
20:03.43winkillerdepends
20:03.46TheOnyxI typically address messages meant to specific people with names
20:03.51T-MetalDo you people ever sleep =P
20:03.52winkillerwow
20:03.54TheOnyxsimply because it usually gets them to do it for me
20:04.00TheOnyxwhich is nice because im not always looking in IRC
20:04.05TheOnyxbut it dings when mu name is said
20:04.06winkilleryou chat in such a sophisticated way, TheOnyx :D
20:04.12Adyslol
20:04.15TheOnyxwinkiller: I try!
20:04.35winkillerTheOnyx: wow! we just got closer on the map! (I guess)
20:04.38TheOnyx<3 tab complete
20:04.58winkillerI just tried to use tab on sophisticated
20:04.59winkiller...
20:05.06Adyshaha
20:05.06TheOnyxpwnt
20:05.11winkillerthen again Iam buffing for prince atm
20:06.48TheOnyxwinkiller: So we did! (probably)
20:07.54*** join/#wowhead Kalroth (n=kalroth@port114.ds1-hj.adsl.cybercity.dk)
20:07.57Kalrothhi!
20:08.04TheOnyxKalroth: Ahoy!
20:08.13AdysKalroth: stop shouting!
20:08.17Kalrothok :(
20:08.32KalrothYou mean frenchy, you.
20:08.34TheOnyxKalroth: Don't mind Adys.
20:08.36Adyshell yes
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20:10.09TheOnyxLosnar: I hear that you are rocking the suburbs. Yes/No circle one
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20:11.08LosnarTheOnyx: yes that is true
20:11.11*** mode/#wowhead [+v Infinity-X] by ChanServ
20:12.44LosnarTheOnyx and let me tell you. You don't know how hoard it is being male middle class and white
20:13.00TheOnyxLosnar: Somehow, I think I can relat.e
20:14.44AdysWho uses the most words no one else uses
20:14.46Adys7 infobot "apt-get"(7), "updatedb"(3), "extractor"(3), "squatteurs"(3), "maintainer"(3), ...
20:14.57Adysoh and im on top of the list
20:15.09TheOnyxpaste a few debian commands and suddenly you think you are the nam
20:15.16TheOnyx*man
20:15.28Adyslol
20:15.29TheOnyxI can do that too!
20:15.36TheOnyxapt-get update
20:15.38TheOnyxapt-get install life
20:15.46Losnarhaha
20:15.58TheOnyxwtf
20:16.01TheOnyxbroken dependencies
20:16.02TheOnyx:(
20:16.30hiawanioh god it wants to install wife-and-2.2kids
20:16.47Adys2.2 kids?
20:16.51Losnartry updating to the_good_life
20:16.55Adysis that like, not quite 3 kids but not 2 either?
20:17.17hiawaniAdys: That was the average number of children per household in the US when I was growing up. It's probably different now.
20:17.33TheOnyx2.5 last time I heard
20:17.40Adysok so most households in the US got a bit more than two kids, but not quite three
20:17.54TheOnyxMATHS IS HARD
20:17.58hiawaniI think it's more that some have 0 and some have 9
20:18.16TheOnyxLOL MEDIAN
20:18.17hiawanior maybe it's just mutations caused by too many mcnuggets
20:19.09TheOnyxn
20:20.30Infinity-Xamerica fat jokes never get old
20:20.56Infinity-Xgeneralizations are always fun!
20:20.56winkillermath is hard if I have to use english technical terms
20:20.58TheOnyxInfinity-X: Nationality?
20:21.07Infinity-Xtake a guess :P
20:21.09Adysamerican old jokeys never get fat
20:21.13Adysalmost read that
20:21.14Infinity-Xamerica
20:21.27Infinity-Xi keep myself in good shape
20:21.29winkillerI am fat and non-american
20:21.34winkillerBUSTED!
20:21.38Infinity-Xuh oh!
20:21.55Infinity-Xbetter move to america, we have lots of deep fried garbage for you rto eat
20:22.03Infinity-X:)
20:22.06hiawaniI never thought I was fat, but my spambox disagrees
20:22.09winkilleram about to lose weight again
20:22.09Infinity-Xespecially where i live
20:22.34winkilleronly had some tomatoes, mozarella and salad today
20:22.43winkillerand very lttle beef
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20:35.45TecnoBratokay, who added their guild to my site! :P
20:35.52TheOnyxTecnoBrat: site?
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20:36.26TecnoBratI've mentioned it a few times ... http://www.warcraftbosses.com/
20:36.37TecnoBratthe one I strarted developing, then ran out of rl time
20:36.43TecnoBratbut someone added http://www.warcraftbosses.com/guild/show/2
20:38.18Miyariblizz needs to stop being dumb and update the US armory
20:38.20TecnoBratits really buggy atm
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21:27.29DjjinnEllo
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21:30.46Losnaryo
21:31.34Djjinnis there a quick way to reset my addon directory ?
21:31.44Losnardelete it
21:31.54Djjinnwill WoW recreate all necessary files?
21:31.57AdysYes
21:32.05Djjinneven if i messed with the WTF variables :P
21:32.09AdysYes
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21:32.21Djjinnthat SpartanUI stuff geeked up my shiot!  no world to run on :(
21:32.22Adysyou can also delete the folder WTF safely
21:32.31Adys(and it'd be wise to do so in this case)
21:32.38Djjinnlol
21:32.51Djjinnyeah... i think its the last time i take Skos's advice on addons
21:32.58Losnarbizzard also makes a tool that you can download and run and it will correct a corrupted install
21:33.21Adysthat will only fix MPQ and core file problems
21:33.32Losnarclears the addons folder as well
21:33.41Adyswhich you can do manually :P
21:33.51Adysjust delete cache/wtf/addons folders
21:33.53Adysyou'll be fine
21:33.59Djjinnhmmm
21:34.17Djjinnif i believe you do it and it doesn't work, can i come back and bitch at you without being kicked?
21:34.33AdysNo, but you can try
21:34.37Djjinn:( sigh
21:34.38Adysjk it'll work
21:34.47[dRaCo]you'll lose your settings and will have to reinstall all addons.
21:34.54[dRaCo]just to make sure.
21:34.56AdysYa obviously
21:34.56TheOnyxDjjinn: Yeah, I tried spartan UI... it's a neat iea, but bad implemtation
21:34.57Djjinnyeah that is fine...
21:35.33DjjinnTheOnyx: yeah it even geeked up my toolbars... i couldn't even solo Ramps cuz i couldn't find the right buttons
21:35.36Adysafk a bit
21:36.48Djjinnerr
21:36.50Djjinnwhoops
21:36.51Djjinn:P
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21:43.21TecnoBrathahahah Adys
21:43.27AdysWhats up?
21:43.27TecnoBratthat guy yesterday, with the wife
21:43.29TecnoBraton Onyxia
21:43.31Adysyeah?
21:43.42TecnoBrathttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965798626&sid=1&pageNo=1
21:43.46TecnoBratcheck out #6, it quotes him
21:44.34Adyslook at my surprised face
21:45.09skizmi don't get it
21:45.42skizmprobably because 90% of the posts are edited
21:46.02TecnoBratskizm, you had to see the post yesterday
21:46.05TecnoBratlemme find it
21:46.31KasoTecnoBrat, what the fuck is going on >.<
21:46.34TecnoBrathttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965646786&postId=9653699536&sid=1#0
21:46.54TecnoBratstart there
21:47.02TecnoBratgo here: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965527619&postId=9654310209&sid=1#0
21:48.14KirkburnMorning
21:59.59TheOnyxTecnoBrat: anything juciy past the forst page or two?
22:00.06TheOnyxi dont feel like reading 432423 pages
22:03.33KasoTecnoBrat,
22:03.41Kasoim lazy give cliffe'snotes version
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22:05.53MistelEvening.
22:06.02TheOnyxMistel: Ahoy
22:06.57*** join/#wowhead Epistaxis (n=jen@cpc3-clif4-0-0-cust640.nott.cable.ntl.com)
22:10.30MistelIt always this quiet?
22:10.44TheOnyxMistel: have you been in IRC before?
22:11.00MistelNot really.
22:11.06TheOnyxMistel: IRC channels are always pretty hit or miss in terms of activity.
22:11.26MistelAh.
22:11.29TheOnyxMistel: Many people don't log out, they just idle.
22:11.56MistelWell that's very...Meh.
22:12.07TheOnyxNot when there's actual conversation.
22:12.10TheOnyxObserve.
22:12.18TheOnyxLosnar: Your music sucks.
22:12.26[dRaCo]if you dont like it, you are free to leave :þ
22:12.34Losnarexactly!
22:12.41LosnarTheOnyx get out!
22:12.46MistelO_O
22:13.05TheOnyxLosnar: I know where the fuse box is!
22:13.19LosnarTheOnyx you are on the same fuse
22:13.28TheOnyxLosnar: It'd be worth it
22:13.41TheOnyxLosnar: Don't make me play my music.
22:13.52TheOnyxI'll do it, I swear!
22:14.02MistelI suddenly got very confused.
22:14.13MistelGuess that means that it's time to go screw around on the PTR.
22:14.36LosnarTheOnyx listen I don't feel like an 80s flashback at the moment kthx
22:15.02TheOnyxLosnar: You never do. That's what's so great about it.
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22:18.44Djjinnsigh
22:18.54MistelMy my..
22:19.16Djjinn?
22:19.22MistelMiss American pie..
22:19.25Mistel<_<
22:19.33Djjinnerrrr
22:19.37Djjinnthat one is too easy
22:19.38Djjinn:P
22:19.48MistelByaah.
22:19.59Djjinnand why would you call yourself american pie...
22:20.15MistelThe day the music died..
22:20.28Djjinngo listen to som Kate Nash
22:20.31Djjinnmucho bettero
22:20.38MistelWho?
22:21.18Djjinnuno momento
22:21.32TheOnyxtaco bello
22:21.49Djjinnaccept
22:23.43Djjinnsee that is why IRC is kinda nice
22:24.21TecnoBratTheOnyx, Kaso, some funny things the OP says .. basically the whole thing was a epic troll because the dude and his wife were quitting the game.
22:24.39MistelHm?
22:24.43Djjinnlol
22:24.46TheOnyxhaha
22:24.48Kasoboring
22:24.52TheOnyxTecnoBrat: so it was shens?
22:24.55MistelOh, that guy?  Brillant.
22:25.36TecnoBratsome other people start joining in
22:25.40TecnoBrattrying to troll him
22:25.45TecnoBratsaying all kinds of stories
22:25.58TecnoBratone thread has details about a "vent incident"
22:26.08TecnoBratand then saying that he met the guys wife IRL, etc
22:26.11DjjinnmmmMMMMM "vent incidents"
22:28.03TecnoBrathttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=965578322&sid=1&pageNo=1
22:28.17TecnoBratthat one is pretty good, you may want to use the "view all posts by this user"
22:30.16MistelHmmm..
22:32.35MistelThere are a lot of....Inexperienced people on the PTR.
22:33.03[dRaCo]TecnoBrat: wtf? kindergarten.
22:35.00TheOnyx?
22:40.14MistelSomebody just asked why their shaman couldn't dual-wield..
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22:40.55[dRaCo]ya
22:41.03[dRaCo]l2shaman
22:49.45TheOnyxSUM SHAMANS IZ 4 HEELS
22:49.55TheOnyxHEEL SHAMANZ NO IS 4 DUEL WEILD
22:52.08MistelSUM SHAMANS IZ 4 LEAVING IN ORG
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23:01.59MistelAlright, I'm abandoning you people for parts unknown.
23:02.09MistelBye now.
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23:23.57CrevoxIs wowhead safe now?
23:24.19Miyariit just punched me in the throat a few minutes ago when i browsed to it
23:26.52TheOnyxIt told me my mother was a whore. :(
23:27.22Losnarwow TheOnyx even it knows
23:27.30TheOnyx:(
23:27.51Miyariyay i found a quest i can solo on my paladin
23:27.54Miyarilooting poop in nagrand -_-
23:28.09LosnarFUN!
23:46.46TheOnyxI've decided that I want to conduct an experiment. I want to take a character through to lvl 70 wearing nothing but greys and whites and document the entire thing to prove how gear-based ones stats are.
23:47.03TecnoBratsomeone did that, completely naked
23:47.16TheOnyxWell, naked is useless.
23:47.21MiyariFIGHT OZMA
23:47.34TheOnyxAlthough I'd be interested in seeing that documentation.
23:47.59TheOnyxI mean, from lvl 59-61 in Outland, my spell crit chance and + dmg doubled
23:48.04TheOnyxThat's rediculous
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23:58.54TecnoBratI made slow cooked chicken spagetti .. and my son is watching me finish it up and I put sauce on his noodles, and he flips out
23:59.02TecnoBrat(hes 2 1/2)
23:59.15TecnoBratNO YUCK YUCK JUICE NOOooo
23:59.41TecnoBratSo I gave him just some plain spagetti noodles .. hes frickin mowing down on them

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