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| 00:29.27 | Raws | omg, I just realized something |
| 00:29.39 | Raws | I can now use my iFoon to control itunes while I'm playing games full screen in OS X or windows |
| 00:30.14 | [dRaCo] | you could've bought any keyboard with media keys to do that |
| 00:30.37 | Raws | Yeah, but media keys can't let you browse your library/view album artwork/search, etc. |
| 00:31.54 | [dRaCo] | got a point there |
| 00:33.27 | Raws | I actually just realized there are media keys on my apple keyboard, but I don't use them at all, I use other key combos |
| 00:38.47 | Gary135791 | (19:30:35) (Raws) Yeah, but media keys can't let you browse your library/view album artwork/search, etc. |
| 00:38.49 | Gary135791 | G15! |
| 00:39.02 | [dRaCo] | no album art :/ |
| 00:39.12 | Gary135791 | people use album art? |
| 00:39.17 | [dRaCo] | I do |
| 00:39.54 | [dRaCo] | and there still is no stable media player plugin with decent playlist support |
| 00:40.06 | [dRaCo] | ray's is ok, but unstable as fucking hell |
| 00:46.53 | Raws | Corgan, are you riding spinners |
| 00:58.34 | Corgan | yes |
| 00:58.45 | Corgan | yes i am |
| 01:00.08 | Raws | http://finance.google.com/finance?q=FAP |
| 01:00.14 | Raws | Fap volume has decreased in the past two years! |
| 01:00.47 | [dRaCo] | haha, you said fap |
| 01:00.49 | [dRaCo] | o0 |
| 01:01.09 | Raws | You so silly |
| 01:01.14 | [dRaCo] | ya :/ |
| 01:06.12 | Raws | Corgan, http://youtube.com/watch?v=zIwgEsD8uT0 |
| 01:10.12 | Corgan | FAP volume has decreased? |
| 01:10.17 | Corgan | faps |
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| 02:04.58 | Raws | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/norfolk/7496923.stm |
| 02:08.29 | Mhari | hihi |
| 02:26.16 | Mr_Rabies2 | raws |
| 02:26.25 | Raws | THE LENINGRAD COWBOYS? |
| 02:26.29 | Mr_Rabies2 | yes |
| 02:40.01 | Raws | HELMUT LOTTI |
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| 02:47.57 | Raws | Fun fact: Marvin Gaye makes Venus swoon |
| 02:58.10 | Raws | oh man, http://macrochan.org/source/N/4/N432WIUGFTMWJSOA3J4YWTRJOY4VUV4L.jpeg |
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| 03:45.05 | Lukian | http://macrochan.org/source/N/4/N432WIUGFTMWJSOA3J4YWTRJOY4VUV4L.jpeg |
| 03:45.08 | Lukian | LOL |
| 03:45.11 | Lukian | That's brilliant |
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| 04:34.06 | Raws | Mr_Rabies2, let us start a new website |
| 04:34.11 | Raws | It will be the youtube of goat porn |
| 04:34.26 | Raws | We can join Wowhead's official fansite program |
| 04:34.35 | Raws | Goathead will be its moniker |
| 04:34.53 | Sky2042 | .... |
| 04:34.56 | Mr_Rabies2 | already been done :( 4chan keeps me far too informed about things i'd rather not be :( |
| 04:35.03 | Sky2042 | lul |
| 04:35.18 | Raws | That is infuriating |
| 04:35.22 | Raws | Also pretty disturbing |
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| 04:38.44 | deltron | lol Mr_Rabies2 |
| 04:39.01 | deltron | Raws: there's already a site like that... |
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| 05:28.02 | Raws | I want to hear Still Alive performed by the Bee Gees |
| 05:31.20 | Sky2042 | Stayin' Alive* |
| 05:31.51 | Raws | My statement clearly went right over your head! |
| 05:32.49 | Mr_Rabies2 | you play it in rock band yet raws |
| 05:33.41 | Raws | I've never played rock band :-( |
| 05:34.03 | Mr_Rabies2 | wait what who was it that worked right next to them in mass |
| 05:34.08 | Mr_Rabies2 | i thought it was you |
| 05:34.19 | Raws | yeah, but I've only played GH |
| 05:35.02 | Mr_Rabies2 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=bQLwGnp1u60&feature=related |
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| 05:40.09 | Lukian | rofl, primal air is 44g and fire is 28g |
| 05:40.13 | Lukian | today |
| 05:42.20 | Gary135791 | 1 hour 30 minute long duel |
| 05:42.22 | Gary135791 | gah |
| 05:42.30 | Lukian | LOL |
| 05:42.34 | Lukian | wut? XD |
| 05:42.44 | Gary13579 | SL/SL warlock vs restokin |
| 05:42.52 | Gary13579 | I have no burst, he has infinite mana |
| 05:43.04 | Lukian | *nods* |
| 05:43.18 | Gary13579 | ended up catching him in a fear x3 spell lock death coil combo |
| 05:43.30 | Lukian | yeah I had a 5min duel with a holy pally on my feral druid, thankfully I have a measure of burst :D |
| 05:45.52 | Raws | Dear god |
| 05:46.08 | Raws | I can't believe that just happened |
| 05:46.09 | Raws | http://holybork.com/qdb/ |
| 05:46.14 | Raws | Look at the newest quote |
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| 05:46.45 | Gary13579 | lol |
| 05:51.43 | Lukian | hahah |
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| 06:11.34 | Pharod | Junkhead on? |
| 06:14.46 | Juippis | Lukian: you don't believe if I say... I once saw resto druid dueling a holy paladin. Yea... I watched it 10 minutes and then I gave up |
| 06:14.53 | Juippis | Lukian: they are probably still in there dueling |
| 06:15.15 | Lukian | haha |
| 06:15.35 | Lukian | Juippis, hey |
| 06:15.43 | Lukian | has anyone tried a two healer 2v2 team? |
| 06:15.54 | Lukian | I'm wondering if you'd win by default.. |
| 06:24.22 | Juippis | :-D |
| 06:24.28 | Juippis | opposite would give up the fight |
| 06:25.02 | Juippis | Lukian: http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd33/Xerinos/Arenamatch.gif <3 |
| 06:25.59 | Lukian | oh dear god, 2hrs |
| 06:26.24 | Lukian | this is why I play a duel dps team |
| 06:26.28 | Lukian | we either win or lose quickly |
| 06:26.57 | Juippis | that has to be the most exhausting arena match ever |
| 06:27.08 | Juippis | 2vs2, rating 1,6k, time elapsed: 2 hours |
| 06:27.11 | Juippis | that's just priceless |
| 06:27.18 | Raws | Oh man |
| 06:27.22 | Raws | I would hate to have lost that |
| 06:27.53 | Raws | I would be too ashamed to tell my guild |
| 06:28.26 | Raws | Also, methinks it's sleepink time |
| 06:28.41 | Lukian | resto > holy |
| 06:35.23 | winkiller | sleeping time sounds good |
| 06:35.32 | winkiller | too bad it's 8:30 am :( |
| 06:39.52 | Lukian | Plans: Sunblessed Breastplate: 10k Gold on AH. |
| 06:42.25 | Juippis | how many guilds in your realm farm the Sunwell Plateau? |
| 06:42.38 | Juippis | in my realm there's 2 horde guilds that does that |
| 06:42.51 | Juippis | so everything that drops from there are _extremely_ expensive |
| 06:42.57 | Croton | lol i dont think anyone on shattered halls is in sunweel |
| 06:42.58 | Juippis | sunmotes... ~500 G per one |
| 06:43.05 | Croton | we dont even have our gem vendor yet |
| 06:43.28 | Lukian | Juippis, 2k/ea :p |
| 06:43.45 | Lukian | I'm sure they'll drop to that soon though |
| 06:43.54 | Lukian | I saw our GM in there today with a pug |
| 06:43.57 | Croton | they are already cheaper than that on some servers |
| 06:44.03 | winkiller | Juippis: #1 guild stopped raiding, #2 has kalecgos down |
| 06:44.11 | winkiller | would be like 30k here |
| 06:44.59 | Juippis | in my realm they downed everything else but Kil'Jaeden and Entropius |
| 06:45.40 | Croton | must be nice to be on a developed server |
| 06:45.56 | Croton | joined shat halls w/out doing any research .. stupid |
| 06:49.53 | Lukian | transfer? XD |
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| 07:08.24 | Lukian | or roll a diff char? :) |
| 07:23.05 | Croton | just transferred |
| 07:23.08 | Croton | no thx to new char |
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| 07:28.11 | Lukian | haha, why not? new chars are great :D |
| 07:28.19 | winkiller | at the start |
| 07:28.26 | winkiller | I still hate the 10/realm limit |
| 07:28.40 | winkiller | I recently deleted all my lvl 6 alts on 10 diff. servewrs |
| 07:29.43 | Lukian | why level 6? XD |
| 07:31.22 | winkiller | it's the classical "play 1h, do the first quests, get to 2nd location" |
| 07:31.36 | winkiller | although I can do it in 45min with orcs/trolls |
| 07:31.49 | winkiller | need 1h with the rest, but rolled too often in Valley of Trials :D |
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| 07:38.20 | Lukian | hehe |
| 08:05.57 | Croton | sry semi afk... studying... im sick of making new chars i always end up going back to a warrior anyway |
| 08:06.16 | Croton | and there is no point really to making a new one |
| 08:06.57 | Croton | i leveled a lock to 70 and never played him again after the day i hit 70... he is now being used as a bank alt |
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| 08:15.48 | Juippis | lol |
| 08:15.55 | Juippis | getting my ass beaten @ stratholme :-P |
| 08:16.59 | Croton | what class |
| 08:17.02 | Juippis | lock |
| 08:17.07 | Juippis | well I've died only 2 times now |
| 08:17.13 | Croton | that disease is gay as hell |
| 08:17.26 | Juippis | true |
| 08:17.32 | Croton | can you get rid of it? |
| 08:18.14 | Croton | some warrior i used to talk to actually did entire runs w/ the disease on |
| 08:18.18 | Croton | just timed his bandages |
| 08:18.28 | Croton | too much work for me |
| 08:20.41 | Juippis | Bonesnap: I had potions to remove it |
| 08:21.01 | Bonesnap | ah nice... the things w/ the morning glory dew graphic? |
| 08:21.09 | Juippis | Bonesnap: and when I did it as demonology (felguard) I didn't even remove it :-P |
| 08:21.24 | Bonesnap | ya that was what i was wondering... if you could remove it w/ that |
| 08:21.58 | Juippis | Purification potion and Medicinal drake essence |
| 08:22.00 | winkiller | Restorative Potion? |
| 08:22.26 | Bonesnap | ah |
| 08:22.48 | Bonesnap | ya i think thats the one |
| 08:23.39 | Bonesnap | any of you used glider? |
| 08:24.14 | Olison | !vote Bonesnap |
| 08:24.57 | winkiller | slaps Bonesnap. Ouch. |
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| 08:25.46 | Bonesnap | my buddy ran it for a few weeks w/ someone who quit's mage .. made 10k g |
| 08:26.04 | Bonesnap | mage got banned nobody cared |
| 08:26.05 | winkiller | I made 10k with dailies. |
| 08:26.05 | Bonesnap | mm |
| 08:26.12 | Bonesnap | ya but you were at the computer |
| 08:26.17 | winkiller | oinly physically |
| 08:26.21 | Bonesnap | lol |
| 08:26.30 | Bonesnap | i prefer farming ... id never mess w/ that crap |
| 08:26.41 | Bonesnap | had my account since the day the game came out dont wnt to risk it getting banned |
| 08:27.36 | Juippis | then why are you even thinking about it? |
| 08:27.42 | winkiller | I play for fun.. so why let someone play it for me |
| 08:27.47 | Juippis | yea |
| 08:27.50 | Bonesnap | i didnt say i was thinking about it |
| 08:27.53 | Juippis | I have no idea what glider even is |
| 08:27.53 | winkiller | well ok, honorgrinding. I'd pay my little brother for that if I had one |
| 08:28.08 | Bonesnap | lol |
| 08:28.18 | Bonesnap | i farm blood elves outside the black temple |
| 08:28.21 | Bonesnap | while i watch tv |
| 08:28.33 | Bonesnap | i hate dailies... and tahts the only place i really like farming |
| 08:28.36 | winkiller | faceroll-warlock? |
| 08:28.43 | Bonesnap | warrior |
| 08:28.54 | Bonesnap | i kill them faster than they respawn though |
| 08:29.44 | winkiller | your MS crits for OVER NINE THOUSAND? |
| 08:30.06 | Bonesnap | psh |
| 08:30.14 | Bonesnap | my white crits are over 9000 |
| 08:30.22 | winkiller | on lvl1 rats? |
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| 08:32.11 | Bonesnap | i dont farm much anymore anyway |
| 08:32.21 | Bonesnap | i log on... i fly in circles around shat |
| 08:32.52 | Bonesnap | i do arena once a week, once in a while i do the daily bg/cooking quest ... and thats about it |
| 08:33.10 | winkiller | 15$ well spent :P |
| 08:33.23 | Bonesnap | psh my account is cancelled right now |
| 08:33.30 | Bonesnap | kinda |
| 08:33.32 | Bonesnap | . |
| 08:34.02 | Bonesnap | ive just been busy ill get back into it soon enough |
| 08:34.09 | Bonesnap | gotta get my s4 weapon and shoulders |
| 08:34.43 | Bonesnap | i wish i could just fast forward time to when d3 comes out |
| 08:36.49 | Weems | I just want 70 ;p |
| 08:37.16 | Bonesnap | what lvl/class? |
| 08:37.20 | winkiller | 70 is overrated |
| 08:37.26 | winkiller | only rep grind then |
| 08:37.44 | Bonesnap | meh |
| 08:38.01 | Bonesnap | premade bgs are fun |
| 08:38.07 | Bonesnap | winning in arena is fun |
| 08:38.19 | winkiller | if you win |
| 08:38.22 | Lukian | losing in arena is fun too |
| 08:38.23 | Lukian | :D |
| 08:38.31 | Bonesnap | its not fun to me |
| 08:38.43 | Bonesnap | i get pissed and i swear and break things |
| 08:39.05 | Bonesnap | ive gone through 2 keyboards and probably 3 or 4 headsets whle losing arena matches |
| 08:40.12 | Bonesnap | druids |
| 08:40.26 | Bonesnap | so gay ... no skill required in 2s |
| 08:41.24 | winkiller | well |
| 08:41.40 | winkiller | resto druids have hardly any stun resistance |
| 08:41.51 | winkiller | so it is basically RNG if he resists my stun |
| 08:42.16 | winkiller | when I play my druid I'm stunned and dead |
| 08:42.23 | winkiller | :P |
| 08:42.26 | Bonesnap | i need s4 mace |
| 08:42.30 | Bonesnap | then ill be all set |
| 08:42.40 | winkiller | Arena needs a fair equip |
| 08:42.42 | winkiller | without gap |
| 08:42.47 | winkiller | you enter arena - you have full s4 |
| 08:43.03 | winkiller | you are out of arena, you have nothing (or buy normal stuff) |
| 08:43.19 | Bonesnap | i dont get what youre saying |
| 08:43.33 | winkiller | if you start arena *now* |
| 08:43.47 | winkiller | you eitehr have tospend 2-4 weeks in BGS to get full s2 |
| 08:43.48 | Bonesnap | im guaranteed full s4? |
| 08:43.58 | winkiller | and still fail against full s4 |
| 08:44.02 | Bonesnap | oh |
| 08:44.08 | Bonesnap | well not everyone has full s4 |
| 08:44.08 | winkiller | or you have nothing. and still fail against full s4 |
| 08:44.13 | alayton | psht, kara epics + rep blues ftw. |
| 08:44.14 | Bonesnap | will be a lot harder now because of the reqs |
| 08:44.16 | winkiller | you have full s3 teams at 1500 |
| 08:44.21 | winkiller | that's ridiculous |
| 08:44.30 | winkiller | you have full s3 teams at 1400 |
| 08:44.33 | winkiller | that's even more ridiculous |
| 08:44.38 | Bonesnap | i saw at least 1 person last season that got his entire s3 -shoulders w/ minimum pts every week |
| 08:44.50 | Bonesnap | thats without shoulders i mean |
| 08:44.53 | winkiller | I held 1500 without a single arena epic |
| 08:45.01 | winkiller | exactly what I say |
| 08:45.06 | Bonesnap | lol its all class imballances |
| 08:45.07 | winkiller | you will get it -but slooow |
| 08:45.16 | Bonesnap | ya but they wont get it this season |
| 08:45.21 | winkiller | Arena has to be - join = equal gear |
| 08:45.23 | Bonesnap | weapon is 2k |
| 08:45.33 | Bonesnap | shoulders 2.2 |
| 08:46.03 | alayton | 1800/1950 for s3.. |
| 08:46.20 | alayton | which should be obtainable for me this season, finally >< |
| 08:46.26 | Bonesnap | lol |
| 08:46.35 | Bonesnap | well by the time you manage to save up for your full s3 |
| 08:46.37 | alayton | my pally is a little pissed |
| 08:46.41 | Bonesnap | people will be rolling in full s4 |
| 08:46.45 | Bonesnap | why is that |
| 08:46.50 | alayton | sitting on 2.6k arena points with nothing to spend it on because of rating requirements |
| 08:46.59 | Bonesnap | lol ya |
| 08:47.03 | Bonesnap | i have about that too |
| 08:47.17 | Bonesnap | i already have helm and pants though.. im saving for weapon now |
| 08:47.23 | Bonesnap | just need the 2k |
| 08:48.10 | Bonesnap | wish i could say i had full honor gear |
| 08:48.17 | Bonesnap | the stupid epic trinket at the end of last season screwed me |
| 08:48.21 | alayton | its only made worse because i dont want to give up my t6 2 piece, so i can really only have 3 pieces of s3/4 |
| 08:48.30 | Bonesnap | what class are you |
| 08:48.33 | alayton | paladin ;p |
| 08:48.37 | alayton | 5% holy light crit = win |
| 08:48.39 | Bonesnap | ah |
| 08:48.48 | alayton | and i can get away with it >.> |
| 08:48.48 | Bonesnap | so use 2 pieces |
| 08:48.51 | Bonesnap | it all evens out |
| 08:49.08 | Bonesnap | just find a team comp that will force the other team to focus on other targets |
| 08:49.21 | Bonesnap | nobody ever goes for the paladin first except in 2v2 |
| 08:49.31 | winkiller | s1/s2 was much more fun |
| 08:49.38 | winkiller | no ArP-oneshots |
| 08:49.49 | Bonesnap | arp? |
| 08:49.52 | winkiller | Armor pen |
| 08:50.00 | Bonesnap | whats that |
| 08:50.05 | alayton | even with being the dps target in 2s, surviving isnt very hard unless i get a badly timed spell interrupt |
| 08:50.15 | winkiller | I was challenger in s1 with my feral! in a fun team |
| 08:50.34 | alayton | my druid has gotten left behind :/ |
| 08:50.38 | alayton | its still in mostly s1 gear.. |
| 08:50.56 | Bonesnap | ya i was in a good guild and i had good arena teams during season 1 |
| 08:51.11 | Bonesnap | i quit right at the end of it though.. i had no idea there were going to be titles |
| 08:51.17 | Bonesnap | kinda pissed now |
| 08:51.50 | Bonesnap | good guild really has nothing to do with it i guess :-/ but what i really meant is a good selection of ppl to play w/ |
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| 09:09.06 | winkiller | well, logistic issues |
| 09:09.15 | winkiller | seeing people in guild on alts etc = win |
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| 09:14.28 | Weems | cant find a good guild ;p |
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| 14:05.41 | Rufwon | new features are nice but everytime i get in pet gallery I lag like a bitch |
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| 14:05.57 | Rufwon | coiuple times it has knocked me out of my IE |
| 14:05.59 | Rufwon | fyi |
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| 14:32.36 | Rufwon | I hate it when you put so much into a guild and that eventually you start to hate it |
| 14:34.28 | Juippis | oh really? |
| 14:34.32 | sickrubik | apathy is the one true path. |
| 14:35.08 | MoonWork | apathy kills your guild dead. |
| 14:35.09 | Juippis | Rufwon: I don't hate my guild. No one's raiding anymore so it's going to die |
| 14:35.14 | Juippis | and I've put so much into it |
| 14:36.10 | Rufwon | Yeah you know I did a website for the guild and I'm just really not happy anymore.. I've had to do shit on my own. Heroics and all .. Kara is scheduled but nobody attends or they do but have to leave in the middle of the fight. I'm really getting frusted. I try to recruit for the guild but people aren't taking seriously. |
| 14:36.42 | Rufwon | www.warlordsofazeroth.com |
| 14:38.06 | Juippis | raids and raid groups start getting serious when you hit SSC/TK :-I |
| 14:38.10 | Rufwon | i'm about giving up here. eventhough i have a somewhat "officer" position in the guild i feel that i have done everything that i can to get it going. it just seems i'm pushing a casual guild into something more hardcore and frankly im about ready to give up |
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| 14:39.36 | Rufwon | But you have to be geared for SSC/TK and doing raids before it like karazhan will help. |
| 14:40.13 | Rufwon | Unfortanately since I am a rogue its pretty dam hard to get in kara pug so this is why i resort to a guild ..which i am now and not happy |
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| 14:40.47 | Gnarfoz | you probably shouldn't invite random people who're not committed to getting geared up and raiding, if that's what your goal is |
| 14:41.03 | Rufwon | Gnarfoz, I don't invite random people |
| 14:41.07 | Rufwon | I interview them and feel them out |
| 14:41.14 | Gnarfoz | well, still the wrong people, I guess? ;) |
| 14:41.35 | Rufwon | Trust me I've denied a lot of people. The problem is that those people want the same thign I want but the "GUILD" in general is not helping with the situation |
| 14:42.14 | Gnarfoz | weird ;) |
| 14:42.18 | Rufwon | We all want to progress but having to pug for missing members isn't exaclty what I call organization and I can't do it all by myself. I'm jsut a title below an officer. |
| 14:42.39 | Gnarfoz | well, wtf are the officers doing, then? |
| 14:42.41 | Gnarfoz | :> |
| 14:42.57 | Rufwon | Fuck if I know... |
| 14:43.26 | Gnarfoz | too bad you put so much work into it, because one option you should seriously consider is finding yourself another guild ;) |
| 14:44.06 | Rufwon | Then they tell me I should help other members get geared for this and I'm like shit you know I did this on my own. I got to where I needed to fit in Kara or heroics. I put in the time to do it. Why should I help them? |
| 14:45.00 | Rufwon | I finally got my epic flyer last week after about a month and nobody dam helped me. I got people wanting me to give them gold to contribute and I'm like fuck you work for it |
| 14:45.18 | selckin | its called /gquit |
| 14:45.53 | Rufwon | Its hard to do that you know you build so much relationship with the guild and you did a website. Maybe if I was just a hermit and didnt do anything for the guild "/gquit" would be easy. |
| 14:46.22 | selckin | start your own guild, take everyone that has similar goals as you from the current |
| 14:46.50 | Rufwon | That is an option I'm leading towards too. |
| 14:47.40 | TecnoBrat | imo a guild isn't just about raiding |
| 14:48.03 | TecnoBrat | and if you aren't willing to help people in your guild get geared for raiding, you aren't the type of raider I want anyways |
| 14:48.30 | Rufwon | I'm not exactly all EPIC |
| 14:48.47 | Juippis | TecnoBrat: ye, we don't raid atm but we have fun @ ventrilo :-P |
| 14:48.49 | winkiller | that sounds too generic TecnoBrat |
| 14:49.00 | TecnoBrat | then you could use some upgrades also? |
| 14:49.03 | winkiller | you can't expect people to gear up other for the tenth time |
| 14:49.36 | Rufwon | Exactly. Tecno. I work hard for what I do. I don't ask members for help |
| 14:49.40 | Rufwon | Nor do I expect to get it |
| 14:49.55 | TecnoBrat | if you are gearing up others for the 10th time, and still don't have people to do kara, that seems weird |
| 14:50.09 | winkiller | must've missed that part :F |
| 14:50.30 | Rufwon | If you want to do Karazhan runs work for it. It shows that you have determination. |
| 14:50.33 | winkiller | but if we have people apply who have worse gear than my 3rd alt.. I lose faith |
| 14:51.05 | Rufwon | I shouldn't have to stop my progression in gear for you because you want to speed up the process more to raid in my position |
| 14:51.05 | winkiller | you can be new, yes. you can have really bad luck with drops, yes. |
| 14:51.22 | winkiller | but you can also utterly and completely suck at being 70 and getting equip |
| 14:51.41 | selckin | its always about kind of guild you're in, and what you want out of the game |
| 14:51.48 | winkiller | indeed |
| 14:52.02 | winkiller | gear is too much of a requirement in this game |
| 14:52.10 | selckin | gear is overrated |
| 14:52.20 | selckin | unless you're in sunwell, it mathers little |
| 14:52.26 | winkiller | I'd gladly take a fully green mage to SSC when he knows how to sheep over a dps whore who fails |
| 14:53.01 | winkiller | but it's near 0% that you have someone's main in greens who already knows everything :P |
| 14:53.10 | winkiller | but I guess you get the point |
| 14:53.41 | selckin | depends |
| 14:57.56 | Rufwon | There was a total of 8 people who left the guild this weekend because of the progression and how funny 6 of those people where my recruits. I asked them why? They all say the same thing I'm saying.. |
| 14:59.24 | Rufwon | I'm about ready to say my byes here soon. Come Tuesday if we don't get a Kara group I will more then like drop the ball. |
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| 15:11.17 | TecnoBrat | I raided AQ40 in greens (green weapon, chestpiece and gloves) and I was always one of the top healers ... gear is overrated. Obviously you can't have bad players in greens though :P |
| 15:11.53 | kd3 | misses C'Thun |
| 15:12.12 | MoonWork | i sure as hell don't |
| 15:12.20 | MoonWork | bastard wiped my raid more than enough times. |
| 15:12.32 | Rufwon | Well maybe I should re-roll a healer if they taking you to high end raids in GREENS. |
| 15:14.19 | Juippis | whoa |
| 15:14.23 | Juippis | just pwned 2 mages |
| 15:14.26 | Juippis | 2 frost mages |
| 15:14.35 | Juippis | ending up with 30 % mana and 70 % HP |
| 15:14.38 | Juippis | damn I'm OP |
| 15:15.09 | TecnoBrat | kd3, I miss C'Thun too |
| 15:15.26 | TecnoBrat | Rufwon, I had raiding experience as a healer already, and I'm a good player :P |
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| 15:16.10 | TecnoBrat | Gear requirements for kara make me LOL regardless. We raided Kara when TBC first came out, NO ONE had heroic gear, pvp gear, or badge gear |
| 15:16.41 | Juippis | yea I've been there with group of greenies |
| 15:16.49 | Juippis | it was a pug from famous guilds |
| 15:16.54 | Juippis | we didn't wipe once |
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| 15:20.12 | TecnoBrat | god damn my nose hurts :( |
| 15:20.31 | Rufwon | Say NO to drugs |
| 15:20.50 | TecnoBrat | I broke my nose like ... 10 years ago, got a flying baseball bat in the nose |
| 15:21.03 | Rufwon | Sorry I thought I had a good grip on it |
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| 16:00.49 | Cadwallion | TecnoBrat: have you any experience with Passenger, the Rails apache module? |
| 16:02.17 | TecnoBrat | no, sorry, I do not |
| 16:02.23 | TecnoBrat | I use lighttpd and fastcgi |
| 16:02.40 | Raws | Is that the thing where you basically drop a rails app into a directory and mod_rails starts it up? |
| 16:02.47 | Cadwallion | Raws: yeah |
| 16:02.49 | Raws | If so, it sounds awesome and I've been meaning to try it out |
| 16:02.53 | TecnoBrat | something like that, yea |
| 16:03.19 | Raws | Even dreamhost supports it now |
| 16:05.07 | TecnoBrat | Raws, Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3d! |
| 16:05.13 | Cadwallion | TecnoBrat: I'd consider doing a lighttpd + fastcgi but i haz zero experience with lighttpd |
| 16:05.13 | Raws | ! |
| 16:05.30 | Cadwallion | and my work server is probably not the best place to start dabbling |
| 16:06.03 | TecnoBrat | Cadwallion, that wasn't a suggestion, heh .. lighttpd / fastcgi is .. uhhh a pain sometimes |
| 16:06.21 | TecnoBrat | passenger is probably the best way to go anyways |
| 16:06.28 | TecnoBrat | or at least fastcgi / apache |
| 16:08.21 | Cadwallion | People must really really love carrying the entire app with them on localhost or something |
| 16:09.02 | Cadwallion | I like my stuff in one place, not one place per computer. :-P |
| 16:09.42 | TecnoBrat | Cadwallion, oh .. because what you can do is sync via svn |
| 16:09.54 | TecnoBrat | and then run "script/server" |
| 16:10.02 | TecnoBrat | and it runs a local rails server |
| 16:10.02 | Cadwallion | yeah, but then you still have to have the whole thing on your computer |
| 16:10.14 | TecnoBrat | do your coding / testing |
| 16:10.16 | TecnoBrat | then commit |
| 16:10.40 | TecnoBrat | you basically can't code on a live box |
| 16:10.55 | TecnoBrat | every time you change a model, controller, view, you need to restart the rails processes |
| 16:11.10 | TecnoBrat | so its better to work local, get a bunch of changes made |
| 16:11.15 | TecnoBrat | push them to svn |
| 16:11.19 | Cadwallion | That makes meh sad |
| 16:11.19 | TecnoBrat | update the production server |
| 16:11.24 | TecnoBrat | restart the rails processes |
| 16:11.41 | TecnoBrat | its better for lots of reasons |
| 16:11.54 | TecnoBrat | one of them, you aren't breaking the live server when you make a typo |
| 16:12.09 | TecnoBrat | I use capistrano for deploying |
| 16:12.23 | TecnoBrat | so actually, it looks like this, have a local copy |
| 16:12.27 | Cadwallion | You've mentioned that before, I've considered using it for PHP projects too |
| 16:12.30 | TecnoBrat | test locally, get some changes, commit them |
| 16:12.37 | TecnoBrat | type "cap deploy" |
| 16:12.57 | TecnoBrat | put in my ssh password, it connects to the server, updates from SVN in a new dir, and restarts the processes for you |
| 16:13.09 | TecnoBrat | keeps 5 deploys there (or however many you want) |
| 16:13.36 | TecnoBrat | production is broken? "cap rollback" |
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| 16:16.21 | Cadwallion | TecnoBrat: I'm not knocking it, I just like having as few files on my machines as needed. SVN makes it so I don't have to worry about versioning, but still. |
| 16:16.39 | TecnoBrat | I hear ya |
| 16:16.58 | Cadwallion | For the last 3 weeks, i've had all of 1 file on my computer for a project i'm working on |
| 16:17.00 | TecnoBrat | I find having everything and SVN is mindless enough though. |
| 16:17.04 | Cadwallion | granted, it's a 1700-line JS file |
| 16:17.05 | Cadwallion | but still |
| 16:17.06 | TecnoBrat | And since my editor has built in SVN suppor |
| 16:17.10 | TecnoBrat | support* |
| 16:17.15 | TecnoBrat | its just easy for me |
| 16:18.07 | Cadwallion | Aptana's not letting me make a Rails project for some reason |
| 16:18.42 | TecnoBrat | did you add the rails plugin? |
| 16:19.29 | TecnoBrat | Help => Aptana Studio Start Page |
| 16:19.35 | TecnoBrat | Middle column |
| 16:19.43 | TecnoBrat | theres a button :) |
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| 16:20.10 | Cadwallion | Yeah, I did |
| 16:20.16 | Cadwallion | That's why i can select Rails project |
| 16:20.24 | Cadwallion | when i click 'Finish' it does nothing, though |
| 16:20.39 | TecnoBrat | ruby and rails are installed on the box I assume? |
| 16:20.51 | Cadwallion | OS 10.5 |
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| 16:21.04 | Cadwallion | so yes |
| 16:22.03 | TecnoBrat | Prefs => Ruby => Installed Interpreters |
| 16:22.07 | TecnoBrat | make sure thats right |
| 16:22.52 | Cadwallion | hrm |
| 16:23.00 | Cadwallion | i'm not seeing ruby in my system prefs |
| 16:23.15 | TecnoBrat | Window => Prefs |
| 16:23.19 | TecnoBrat | and youi don't see Ruby? |
| 16:23.33 | TecnoBrat | in Aptana |
| 16:23.42 | Cadwallion | oh, sorry |
| 16:23.46 | TecnoBrat | hehe |
| 16:23.46 | Cadwallion | misunderstood |
| 16:23.50 | TecnoBrat | no worries |
| 16:24.07 | Cadwallion | usr is checked |
| 16:24.17 | Cadwallion | i have 2 interpreters |
| 16:24.27 | Cadwallion | ur and org.jruby_1.1.0.5965_ |
| 16:25.23 | Cadwallion | usr* |
| 16:26.31 | TecnoBrat | and the usr one is the right path I assume |
| 16:27.13 | lprich | I hate *days |
| 16:27.25 | TecnoBrat | check Rails => Configuration also |
| 16:28.29 | Cadwallion | no path in the boxes |
| 16:28.30 | Cadwallion | that'd do it |
| 16:30.38 | Cadwallion | grrrr, i gave it a path and it still does nothing |
| 16:31.54 | TecnoBrat | :( |
| 16:32.08 | TecnoBrat | It sounds to me like its failing to create the rails skeleton |
| 16:32.10 | TecnoBrat | uncheck that |
| 16:32.13 | TecnoBrat | if it works |
| 16:32.13 | Cadwallion | ah ha! |
| 16:32.16 | TecnoBrat | its something with the rails setup on that box |
| 16:32.18 | Cadwallion | i found the problem i think |
| 16:32.21 | Cadwallion | it had a window hiding |
| 16:32.30 | TecnoBrat | oh |
| 16:32.33 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 16:32.38 | Cadwallion | it needs to install ruby-debug-base and ruby-debug-ide |
| 16:33.07 | TecnoBrat | ahhhh |
| 16:33.15 | Cadwallion | but the window was behind aptana |
| 16:33.19 | Cadwallion | and not in my cmd+tab list |
| 16:33.22 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 16:33.44 | Cadwallion | err...what happens if i don't have an sudo password setup? :-P |
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| 16:34.17 | TecnoBrat | its your current account password! |
| 16:34.32 | TecnoBrat | geez, Cadwallion being a noob! |
| 16:37.31 | lprich | Cadwallion is teh biggest noob evar. |
| 16:37.46 | Juippis | ...sudo? Why would anyone use sudo? |
| 16:38.26 | TecnoBrat | Juippis, why would anyone NOT use sudo! |
| 16:39.12 | Juippis | it's lazy and it compromises security? |
| 16:39.40 | lprich | so what alternative do you suggest? |
| 16:40.18 | TecnoBrat | sudo compromises security? Logging in as root does that. |
| 16:41.13 | lprich | I don't care about tech stuff right now. I'm listening to Skynyrd. |
| 16:41.22 | Juippis | TecnoBrat: you have more changes to do something severe with it :-\ |
| 16:41.26 | Juippis | lprich: I use su root |
| 16:41.41 | lprich | yeah. sudo is more secure than su |
| 16:41.56 | kd3 | meh. it's my box. I'll break it if I want to |
| 16:42.02 | TecnoBrat | more changes? |
| 16:42.03 | Juippis | TecnoBrat: and what if someone gets hands onto your user account? |
| 16:42.06 | kd3 | looks at the root shell sitting next to him |
| 16:42.15 | kd3 | s/him/his xchat window/ |
| 16:42.37 | TecnoBrat | Juippis, so you give your root password away to every single person that needs root? |
| 16:42.57 | Juippis | why would they need root? If they need root they contact the root |
| 16:43.03 | Juippis | and don't break my box |
| 16:43.07 | TecnoBrat | kd3, hehe, on my own personal linux box I commonly use sudo -s :P |
| 16:43.43 | TecnoBrat | Juippis, apparently you've never worked in an environment with multiple admins. |
| 16:44.14 | Juippis | TecnoBrat: I have and we all had the root passwd there |
| 16:44.21 | Juippis | the users were not given sudo rights |
| 16:44.24 | TecnoBrat | and thats more secure? |
| 16:45.05 | Juippis | well if someone's user account was cracked then yes? |
| 16:45.11 | TecnoBrat | you have no idea WHICH admin did something |
| 16:45.24 | TecnoBrat | with sudo, you do. |
| 16:45.32 | Juippis | do I? We live in peace. They will tell if they made a mistake |
| 16:45.41 | TecnoBrat | hahahhahaha |
| 16:45.48 | Juippis | and ok ok, I use sudo on my personal machine too |
| 16:45.50 | Juippis | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.50 | Juippis | %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/shutdown |
| 16:45.50 | Juippis | %wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /sbin/reboot |
| 16:45.52 | kd3 | looks for another cup of coffee |
| 16:45.58 | Juippis | <3 |
| 16:46.23 | Juippis | TecnoBrat: if you can't trust other people what can you do? |
| 16:46.32 | TecnoBrat | not trust them? :P |
| 16:46.47 | Juippis | (well technically it's not even my server machine so...) |
| 16:46.57 | TecnoBrat | "sudo -s" gives you a great command line also |
| 16:47.05 | TecnoBrat | so to me, there really is no use for su |
| 16:47.20 | Juippis | didn't that require your own password? |
| 16:47.25 | Juippis | and not the root users |
| 16:47.32 | TecnoBrat | thats correct. |
| 16:48.05 | TecnoBrat | My own password, which is required to be changed every 2 weeks. With crazy requirements on what it has to be. |
| 16:48.18 | Juippis | TecnoBrat: well ok. You can limit what user can do with sudo right but "su root" gives them everything |
| 16:48.21 | Juippis | I know |
| 16:48.54 | Cadwallion | i r back |
| 16:48.56 | TecnoBrat | and "su -" requires you to give out your root password to everyone, so keeping it changes, it much harder to require |
| 16:49.19 | Juippis | welcome back, Cad |
| 16:49.54 | Juippis | TecnoBrat: oh frack, I need to make a proposal of using sudo rather than spread root right at the next meeting |
| 16:49.58 | Juippis | >:-) |
| 16:50.04 | Cadwallion | TecnoBrat: i ask because i've never used the root account on my mac |
| 16:50.07 | Juippis | *rights |
| 16:50.13 | Zicon | pokes kuinkala with a sharp stick. |
| 16:50.21 | Juippis | Zicon: he's dead. |
| 16:50.23 | Juippis | like a fish |
| 16:50.31 | Juippis | I haven't heard of him for... 2 weeks? |
| 16:50.32 | Zicon | That's my current working theory, yes. |
| 16:50.35 | Juippis | or something |
| 16:50.42 | Juippis | GINGAAARRR!~ |
| 16:50.53 | Zicon | He was last here 6 days ago. |
| 16:51.03 | lprich | that's quite a long time. |
| 16:51.05 | TecnoBrat | lol Juippis |
| 16:51.19 | TecnoBrat | Juippis, whens the last time you guys changed your root password? hehe |
| 16:51.31 | Juippis | TecnoBrat: better if you didn't ask... |
| 16:51.39 | TecnoBrat | yea .... |
| 16:52.02 | Juippis | Zicon: actually... kuinkala means "like a fish". :-) |
| 16:52.11 | Juippis | Zicon: I noticed my clever statement just |
| 16:52.14 | Zicon | Really? |
| 16:52.20 | Juippis | yea |
| 16:52.32 | Juippis | kuin kala = like a fish |
| 16:53.50 | Zicon | How appropriate. |
| 16:53.56 | Zicon | Oh well. |
| 16:54.01 | Zicon | casually violates lprich. |
| 16:54.02 | Cadwallion | TecnoBrat: I got it working! :-D |
| 16:54.18 | lprich | hehe, I love being casually violated |
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| 16:54.22 | lprich | I mean, uhh.... |
| 16:54.26 | lprich | Hi Zicon |
| 16:55.00 | Juippis | Zicon: hah! I know where he went |
| 16:55.09 | TecnoBrat | Cadwallion, grats :) |
| 16:55.10 | Zicon | Oh? |
| 16:56.08 | Zicon | juippis: Did Ginger mate with him before killing and eating him? |
| 16:56.10 | Juippis | no... that festival ended already |
| 16:56.15 | Juippis | haha |
| 16:56.43 | Juippis | kuinkala: where are you? Can't you see that I miss you?! Please, talk to me |
| 16:56.51 | Juippis | should I just call him. |
| 16:56.55 | Juippis | :-D |
| 16:57.13 | Zicon | You have his number, but keep leaving little lovenotes for him on IRC instead? |
| 16:57.32 | Zicon | I'd like to get hold of him before he loses his trial spot due to being, well, missing. |
| 16:58.17 | Juippis | trial spot? :-o |
| 16:58.37 | Zicon | Aye. He's applied to my guild. He was accepted for trial four days ago. :P |
| 16:59.05 | Juippis | O.O |
| 16:59.06 | Juippis | shit |
| 16:59.10 | Juippis | that's important |
| 16:59.36 | Juippis | hmm... he'll need to decide: To be with IRL friends... or to be with virtually IRL friends |
| 17:07.43 | Juippis | frack |
| 17:07.49 | Juippis | he tricked me |
| 17:09.03 | Zicon | Tricked you? How? |
| 17:09.38 | Juippis | I have his friend's number who is doing his military service now :-) |
| 17:09.48 | Juippis | a.k.a no idea where Jani might be |
| 17:09.59 | Zicon | D'oh! |
| 17:10.02 | Juippis | and you know how I started the call? |
| 17:10.04 | Juippis | you know? |
| 17:10.08 | Juippis | you don't want to know. |
| 17:10.10 | Juippis | I cried |
| 17:10.14 | Zicon | I assume in finnish. :p |
| 17:11.09 | Juippis | I was, like, *tears flowing* "maaaaannn! Where are you man! I miss you QQ! Come back to me QQ" :-D |
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| 17:11.18 | Juippis | oh crap when I find out he wasn't kuinnie |
| 17:11.20 | Juippis | :-D |
| 17:11.29 | Juippis | "WTF get away from my phone" |
| 17:13.01 | Zicon | ... |
| 17:13.12 | Zicon | You are never getting my phone number. Just for the record. :p |
| 17:13.15 | Juippis | we have this... connection. Over the IRC though |
| 17:13.18 | Juippis | :-D |
| 17:13.33 | Juippis | why would he trick me like that?! That silly boy |
| 17:13.43 | Juippis | ...he's so going to get it... |
| 17:13.53 | Juippis | when he comes online next time |
| 17:15.26 | Zicon | If he comes online again. :p |
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| 17:16.05 | Juippis | oh my |
| 17:16.08 | Juippis | Zicon: now I know! |
| 17:16.58 | Juippis | Zicon: imagine this: Kil'Jaeden is Ginger. Anveena is kuinkala. And we are kalecgos. Your guild has to set kuinkala free from the evil redhead deceiver :-D |
| 17:17.04 | Juippis | I find it funny |
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| 17:25.22 | lprich | The ginger is hot. |
| 17:27.05 | Zicon | juippis: Have you been smoking your socks? |
| 17:28.22 | Zicon | And yes, Ginger is pretty hot. |
| 17:28.50 | lprich | Yes. |
| 17:29.01 | lprich | I wish I had a ginger. |
| 17:29.18 | lprich | Although... ginger + ginger would probably end badly. |
| 17:29.26 | Zicon | Ooh. Fire! |
| 17:30.11 | lprich | They would all be ginger kids too. |
| 17:30.34 | lprich | since ginger is recessive gene... don't have anything to pass along but ginger genes. |
| 17:31.44 | Zicon | Gingers are dying out, so you should definitely make ginger babies. |
| 17:32.17 | lprich | are they really dying out? like blondes? |
| 17:32.23 | Zicon | Yup. |
| 17:33.47 | winkiller | I'm not dying out, I'm alive :| |
| 17:33.55 | lprich | You're ginger? |
| 17:34.00 | winkiller | blonde |
| 17:34.20 | winkiller | but haven't tried the kids thing |
| 17:34.26 | winkiller | so I might be dying out actually |
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| 17:34.44 | lprich | hehe |
| 17:34.50 | lprich | I haven't tried the kids thing either |
| 17:39.18 | lprich | Extinction |
| 17:39.18 | lprich | A popular myth that red hair is likely to die out in the near future exists.[22] This is untrue; it stems from questionable research and publicity by a hair products company.[23] The National Geographic article that started the rumor in fact states "while redheads may decline, the potential for red isn't going away".[24] |
| 17:39.24 | lprich | Red hair is caused by a recessive relatively rare gene, expression of which can skip generations. It is not likely to disappear at any time in the foreseeable future.[23] |
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| 17:44.20 | malikeye|work | hmm, so why is there not a wowhead firefox skin yet ? |
| 17:50.47 | Juippis | Zicon: I'm drinking for kuinkala too, because he's not here with the spirit |
| 17:50.51 | Juippis | no, I have to |
| 17:50.53 | Juippis | for the man! |
| 17:51.33 | Zicon | juippis: You're a fruitcake. |
| 17:54.16 | Juippis | Zicon: I think you tried to offend me but I don't mind |
| 17:54.18 | Juippis | if that's the case |
| 17:54.44 | Juippis | I don't remember too well |
| 17:55.13 | Juippis | but wasn't ginger's hair really like.... o-o-orange? |
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| 18:00.08 | lprich | Zicon's hair was/might still be orange |
| 18:00.20 | lprich | due to unnatural events |
| 18:01.32 | Zicon | Yes, it's orangey-blonde still. |
| 18:02.12 | Zicon | I'm letting my natural dirty dishwater blonde grow out a bit so cute boy can see what it looks like. |
| 18:03.07 | TecnoBrat | LOL |
| 18:03.08 | lprich | Yay? |
| 18:03.33 | TecnoBrat | some guy requested a hairstyle? |
| 18:03.47 | Zicon | He seems to like it. *shrug* |
| 18:03.58 | Zicon | tecnobrat: Not "some guy". MY guy. Important difference. |
| 18:04.23 | TecnoBrat | oh yes, that is an important difference |
| 18:04.29 | TecnoBrat | "so cute boy can see what it looks like." |
| 18:04.38 | TecnoBrat | that sounds like just some guy who might be interested in you |
| 18:04.48 | TecnoBrat | and wants to see what you would look like with different hair first |
| 18:04.54 | TecnoBrat | like some sort of audition |
| 18:04.54 | TecnoBrat | lol |
| 18:04.57 | Zicon | Haha |
| 18:05.10 | Zicon | Oh no, this one's earnt the right to request it. ;) |
| 18:05.17 | TecnoBrat | rofl |
| 18:06.34 | Zicon | My hair could probably do with growing out for a bit, anyway. All the dying and bleaching has been harsh on it. |
| 18:07.16 | lprich | That's why I don't do anything to mine. That and I'm a guy. |
| 18:07.53 | lprich | it's bad enough being a long-hair. Coloring would just add fuel to that fire. |
| 18:09.14 | Zicon | And if you're as good as the average boy at taking care of your hair, just HAVING it could be bad enough. ;) |
| 18:09.34 | lprich | Oh, I'm pretty good about taking care of my hair. |
| 18:09.42 | lprich | I'm a bit vain about my hair really. |
| 18:09.50 | Zicon | XD |
| 18:09.57 | Zicon | Are you SURE you're not gay? *ducks* |
| 18:10.08 | lprich | Pretty sure, yeah. |
| 18:10.09 | Sky2042 | Zicon: I'm actually amazed I have hair still, considering I swim for 20 hrs a week. >.> |
| 18:10.17 | Sky2042 | Chlorine's nasty for hair. |
| 18:10.37 | Zicon | Cheap black dye + chlorinated water = FUN! |
| 18:10.48 | Sky2042 | I've done that before. |
| 18:10.50 | Sky2042 | =D |
| 18:10.56 | Zicon | Ooh, what did you get? |
| 18:11.10 | Zicon | I got out with green hair! |
| 18:11.36 | lprich | cute |
| 18:11.37 | Sky2042 | It actually stayed black, so it maybe be possible that it wasn't "cheap". However, I've seen green hair on people who have bleached theirs. |
| 18:11.45 | Sky2042 | :o |
| 18:11.50 | Sky2042 | s/people/swimmers |
| 18:13.30 | Zicon | Also, I am so awesome tonight. Cute boy and roomie decided to go Karazhan, so I cooked them dinner and served it right to their little gamestations. |
| 18:13.43 | Sky2042 | lul |
| 18:13.57 | Sky2042 | lucky boys. |
| 18:14.02 | Zicon | A cookie says sky2042 is not dutch. |
| 18:14.06 | Wikwocket | Careful or you will spoil them! |
| 18:14.11 | TecnoBrat | so why "cute boy"? |
| 18:14.18 | TecnoBrat | instead of like "boyfriend" |
| 18:14.22 | Zicon | tecnobrat: Cuz he's cute, duh! |
| 18:14.33 | TecnoBrat | or "cute boyfriend" |
| 18:14.36 | Sky2042 | Zicon: 1:50 odds, imo. |
| 18:14.45 | Sky2042 | Ie, you bet a cookie, you get 1/50th back. |
| 18:14.53 | Sky2042 | +the original cookie. |
| 18:15.04 | Zicon | A cookie and a cookie crumb? :P |
| 18:15.14 | Sky2042 | Indeed. |
| 18:15.36 | Zicon | And why are you a red admin on the loose? :P |
| 18:16.42 | Sky2042 | points to #wowwiki. |
| 18:17.00 | Zicon | But why RED? |
| 18:17.00 | Sky2042 | (also, it's a joke on "rogue") |
| 18:17.29 | Zicon | Anyway |
| 18:17.34 | Zicon | Do I get a cookie crumb or not? |
| 18:18.11 | Sky2042 | Yes. |
| 18:18.17 | Sky2042 | hands Zicon her cookie crumb. |
| 18:18.25 | Zicon | Awesome. |
| 18:18.38 | Zicon | Should I now tell you what "lul" means in dutch? :P |
| 18:19.25 | Sky2042 | Feel free. |
| 18:19.31 | Zicon | "cock" |
| 18:19.37 | Sky2042 | >.< |
| 18:19.41 | Zicon | And not the feathery kind. |
| 18:21.13 | TecnoBrat | lul |
| 18:21.15 | Zicon | ^_^ |
| 18:22.08 | lprich | zicon loves the luls |
| 18:22.19 | Zicon | Oh, you bet. |
| 18:22.32 | TecnoBrat | our datacenter is down! |
| 18:22.34 | TecnoBrat | woot |
| 18:22.36 | TecnoBrat | power issues |
| 18:22.41 | Zicon | Purge it with fire! |
| 18:22.46 | lprich | hey, i think we're having something similar here |
| 18:22.59 | lprich | I hear my boss talking about sending out some big important message |
| 18:23.03 | lprich | about some outage or something |
| 18:23.21 | TecnoBrat | lprich, where are you hosted? |
| 18:23.37 | lprich | Not where you're hosted. We host our own. |
| 18:23.47 | lprich | We just have crappy power. |
| 18:24.17 | Zicon | Yum, pancakes. |
| 18:25.52 | lprich | oh wait. this is our vancouver datacenter. |
| 18:26.05 | lprich | I'm guessing you're in the same place. |
| 18:29.32 | lprich | TecnoBrat: I'm guessing your vancouver datacenter went down? :D |
| 18:38.00 | winkiller | I'd love to have some vancouver host |
| 18:38.06 | winkiller | or anything remote. |
| 18:38.15 | winkiller | south america would be even better :P just not US :P |
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| 18:44.25 | TecnoBrat | lprich, http://www.news1130.com/news/topstory/article.jsp?content=20080714_140441_1216 |
| 18:44.47 | TecnoBrat | The power outage caused a generator to start up in one of the buildings and it started to smoke. Fire crews had to pour foam on it. |
| 18:44.53 | TecnoBrat | yikes, I hope that wasn't in the Datacenter |
| 18:44.54 | TecnoBrat | rofl |
| 18:45.31 | TecnoBrat | The area affected centres on the downtown waterfront. A blown transformer in the Harbour Centre building is ssuspected to have contributed to the problem. |
| 18:45.31 | TecnoBrat | BC Hydro has said the problem could continue until 4 pm. |
| 18:45.33 | TecnoBrat | :( |
| 18:51.33 | kachna|lappy | http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/yourcomic.phtml?tagline=houvnou&char1=dan1.gif&char2=bix2.gif&d1a=giev+epix+plz&d1b=noez+dees+r+mai&d2a=plx+i+needz&d2b=zomg+nub+u+haz+bettar&d3a=fu&d3b=kthxbai |
| 18:51.34 | kachna|lappy | !! |
| 18:52.04 | TecnoBrat | http://www.bchydro.com/outages/orsMapView.jsp |
| 18:52.10 | TecnoBrat | and enter "1000 - 555 WEST HASTINGS STREET, BC, Canada" |
| 18:52.42 | unfo- | is it possible to LFG for 25man raids (gruul/maggy) ? |
| 18:53.30 | kachna|lappy | sure |
| 18:54.00 | unfo- | I wonder how successfull a 25-man pug could ever be :) |
| 18:54.04 | kachna|lappy | such pugs happen quite ofren on ma realm :o |
| 18:54.20 | kachna|lappy | dunno,whenever i pug 25 man,it's hyjal :D |
| 18:54.25 | Sky2042 | depends on the progression of your realm. |
| 18:54.38 | unfo- | Sky2042, how can I check the progression of this realm?-) |
| 18:54.40 | kachna|lappy | and it's actually always clear up to archi |
| 18:54.51 | Sky2042 | unfo-: check the realm forums. |
| 18:57.01 | unfo- | at least http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=2843564365&sid=1 this looks promising |
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| 19:00.33 | unfo- | hmmmmh... any tips for my first ventures into gruul/maggy as a healadin? |
| 19:04.17 | selckin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.24 | selckin | don't go oom =) |
| 19:08.57 | Wikwocket | unfo-: Now where to stand :) |
| 19:09.02 | Wikwocket | Location location location! |
| 19:09.24 | Sky2042 | points to http://wowwiki.com/Magtheridon_(tactics) |
| 19:09.26 | Wikwocket | *Know where |
| 19:10.11 | Wikwocket | oh I'd probably try to figure out what you can bubble from, esp Shatter or Mag's ceiling collapses |
| 19:11.44 | TecnoBrat | lprich, you heard anything new about the outage? |
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| 19:20.38 | Raws | Anyone know what the heck the huge honkin' slots on the left of this image are? http://www.doolanshire.net/morgan/DaddyBoard2.jpg |
| 19:21.15 | Wikwocket | ISA slots? |
| 19:23.54 | Raws | Hmm |
| 19:24.19 | selckin | yeah A are old skool isa |
| 19:24.28 | Raws | Awesome |
| 19:24.29 | winkiller | idd |
| 19:24.30 | Raws | Thanks |
| 19:24.39 | winkiller | B should be PCI |
| 19:24.46 | winkiller | without -X :) |
| 19:24.46 | Raws | Yeah, that's easy enough :P |
| 19:24.47 | selckin | the whole thing should be in the bin |
| 19:24.51 | Raws | lol |
| 19:25.05 | winkiller | 3 ram slots, so it should be DIMM |
| 19:25.12 | Raws | Yup |
| 19:25.31 | Raws | I was hoping the huge things were toaster slots or something |
| 19:25.31 | winkiller | and via chipset |
| 19:25.31 | Raws | Oh well |
| 19:25.31 | winkiller | might be a thundebrird |
| 19:25.32 | Wikwocket | has a parallel port if I don't miss my guess |
| 19:25.45 | winkiller | Socket Athlon? |
| 19:26.44 | winkiller | wait a sec |
| 19:26.49 | winkiller | that pic is mirrored |
| 19:27.01 | winkiller | no way the ISA slots are above the cpu |
| 19:27.18 | Raws | o_O |
| 19:27.48 | winkiller | the parallel port should be where the B is |
| 19:27.51 | Wikwocket | it's mirrires? |
| 19:28.02 | Wikwocket | *mirrored, sigh |
| 19:28.14 | Raws | I think the photo was taken with Photo Booth on a macbook, so makes sense that it's mirrored |
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| 19:56.19 | TecnoBrat | well this is awesome |
| 19:56.20 | TecnoBrat | ... |
| 19:56.21 | TecnoBrat | not |
| 19:56.26 | TecnoBrat | I can't do anything at all |
| 19:59.45 | lprich | TecnoBrat: Clearly you need a backup datacenter in Toronto. |
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| 20:01.58 | TecnoBrat | I wanna know what the deal with the backup gens are |
| 20:02.00 | lprich | TecnoBrat: And no, I've not heard anything about the outage. |
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| 20:06.43 | Rufwon | So I just have to say is Murmur can kiss my ass |
| 20:07.04 | lprich | Murmer is EZmode |
| 20:07.24 | Wikwocket | Rufwon: heroic Murmur? |
| 20:07.26 | Rufwon | I they nerfed him cause i swear i was still getting hit when i left the circle |
| 20:07.31 | Rufwon | heroic |
| 20:07.32 | Rufwon | yes |
| 20:07.38 | Wikwocket | He can indeed be a pain |
| 20:07.48 | lprich | he throws shit at you when you leave the circle |
| 20:07.51 | lprich | on heroic at least |
| 20:07.53 | Rufwon | we whiped like 14 times already .. i gave up |
| 20:08.24 | Rufwon | what?!??! i thought i was suppose to leave the circle |
| 20:08.37 | TecnoBrat | lprich, what I have heard is that there was a power transformer in the same buildign as peer1 |
| 20:08.38 | TecnoBrat | that exploded |
| 20:08.45 | TecnoBrat | they evacuated the building |
| 20:09.00 | lprich | TecnoBrat: Damn! |
| 20:09.07 | TecnoBrat | also that a generator in "an effected building" powered on, started to smoke, and had to have foam poured on it |
| 20:09.21 | lprich | TecnoBrat: that sucks. |
| 20:09.35 | TecnoBrat | so basically, I think we are waiting for the fire dept okay to go back in, and power up the building at the LEAST |
| 20:09.37 | TecnoBrat | plus repairs |
| 20:09.38 | TecnoBrat | etc |
| 20:09.52 | TecnoBrat | its possible the fire dept didn't allow them to power on the gems |
| 20:09.54 | TecnoBrat | gens* |
| 20:10.06 | lprich | Rufwon: On heroic, after sonic boom when you have to leave the circle, there is a ranged attack that hits you while you're not in the circle. |
| 20:10.39 | lprich | TecnoBrat: yeah, with a transformer going up in smoke I would imagine supplying power might be a bad idea. |
| 20:11.02 | TecnoBrat | thats what happened with theplanet in texas |
| 20:11.08 | TecnoBrat | now that was a little more exciting |
| 20:11.14 | TecnoBrat | the power room literally exploded |
| 20:11.22 | TecnoBrat | but same process really |
| 20:11.28 | TecnoBrat | fire dept decides what happens when |
| 20:14.12 | lprich | yeah |
| 20:19.09 | Cadwallion | I haz two plates of sugar cookies on my desk |
| 20:19.18 | Cadwallion | I'm going to die before I get out of work |
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| 20:32.39 | Raws | Bah, I want to use JSON for config files instead of XML |
| 20:32.46 | Raws | But there's no xpath equivalent for JSON :-( |
| 20:35.48 | Nem | Does anyone know the website which you put a few letters into from an image and it guesses the font for you? |
| 20:35.51 | Nem | Can't find it on google |
| 20:36.17 | Nem | nevermind |
| 20:36.19 | Nem | Found it :D |
| 20:38.35 | Wikwocket | What is it, out of curiousity? |
| 20:40.33 | lprich | TecnoBrat: does fusepoint mean anything to you? |
| 20:40.44 | TecnoBrat | no |
| 20:41.03 | lprich | apparently thats the name of our datacenter company or something |
| 20:41.10 | TecnoBrat | lprich, they are probably hosted in peer1 |
| 20:41.17 | lprich | probably |
| 20:41.26 | TecnoBrat | looks like they might just be a "managed server" reseller |
| 20:41.30 | TecnoBrat | they just colo in peer1 |
| 20:41.34 | lprich | yeah |
| 20:41.41 | lprich | and peer1 blew up |
| 20:43.09 | TecnoBrat | the lead dev just sends me a message |
| 20:43.16 | TecnoBrat | "I guess X is down too eh?" |
| 20:43.23 | TecnoBrat | "uhh yes, everything in vancouver" |
| 20:43.34 | lprich | >< |
| 20:43.39 | lprich | time to hire a new lead dev. |
| 20:44.38 | TecnoBrat | generally devs don't care about the servers |
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| 20:48.43 | unfo- | selckin, Wikwocket Sky2042 thanks for tips :) |
| 20:48.56 | Sky2042 | welcome. |
| 21:22.11 | Trae | Man that'd be awesome... if you could have a daliy quest that would give you say 5k Honor if you went to SW or IF and killed two leaders or something. Make it hard, where it takes like 40+ or something and make it take a truly coordinated effort, but... make it worth the work and time and effort. |
| 21:22.41 | Juippis | word |
| 21:22.46 | Trae | heh |
| 21:23.00 | Juippis | been doing AV this whole day... 8k honor |
| 21:23.12 | Trae | Juippis, yeah... too much work and it's boring doing AV |
| 21:23.13 | Juippis | we lose every match and get like 126 bonus honor |
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| 21:23.42 | Satonen | Hi all :) |
| 21:23.55 | Trae | I think Blizzard simply doesn't want major raids on cities |
| 21:24.15 | Trae | otherwise they'd put some carrots out there to make it worth while |
| 21:25.30 | Juippis | well |
| 21:25.38 | Juippis | it wasn't long ago when we did SW -> IF raid |
| 21:26.01 | Juippis | and after few days we sent the Exodar back to where it came from |
| 21:26.40 | selckin | we had 3 full raids + extra so 120 + at the gates of ironforge |
| 21:26.45 | selckin | and the server just crashed |
| 21:26.48 | selckin | so much for MMO |
| 21:27.30 | Satonen | what is the best build for paladin lvling? |
| 21:27.44 | Juippis | Satonen: retri till lvl 49 |
| 21:27.59 | Juippis | then start aoe-grinding as protection |
| 21:29.01 | Juippis | Satonen: http://www.wowwiki.com/Paladin_builds#Leveling_as_Retribution & http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=67158029&sid=1 |
| 21:29.18 | Satonen | thanks =) |
| 21:33.21 | Satonen | duel weapons with retri? |
| 21:34.37 | unfo- | agrees with Juippis |
| 21:35.19 | Wikwocket | I don't think paladins can dual-wield |
| 21:35.28 | Wikwocket | I used a big 2-hander myself |
| 21:36.03 | [dRaCo] | they cant |
| 21:36.29 | Satonen | ops I mean 2 hander eh.. |
| 21:36.34 | Satonen | sry :D |
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| 22:14.56 | lprich | I'll show you a 2 hander |
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| 23:31.34 | Raws | Apparently Bungie is announcing a new game |
| 23:31.42 | Raws | I hope they re-release Myth II |
| 23:31.49 | Raws | That or PIMPS AT SEA |
| 23:32.05 | Inc` | hai2uraws |
| 23:32.17 | Raws | hi2u Inc` |
| 23:32.26 | Raws | Are you a PIMP AT SEA? |
| 23:32.40 | Inc` | Possibly. |
| 23:33.46 | Raws | Hott |
| 23:37.41 | TecnoBrat | lprich, I think we are back ... |
| 23:37.42 | TecnoBrat | maybe |
| 23:37.49 | lprich | back on generator |
| 23:37.53 | lprich | not on grid power yet |
| 23:38.20 | TecnoBrat | yea, I think our servers are JUST coming back |
| 23:38.24 | lprich | yeah |
| 23:38.27 | TecnoBrat | asset server still down |
| 23:38.33 | TecnoBrat | but yea, powering up anyways |
| 23:39.44 | lprich | don't get your hopes up too high |
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| 23:41.35 | TecnoBrat | lprich, know something I don't? |
| 23:41.43 | TecnoBrat | Oh so I heard an interesting story from an admin |
| 23:41.48 | TecnoBrat | not sure how much faith I have in it |
| 23:41.56 | TecnoBrat | aparantly the generators are water cooled |
| 23:41.57 | lprich | just that seems thing to be not stable |
| 23:42.09 | TecnoBrat | and because there was a fire, the pressure was down |
| 23:42.13 | TecnoBrat | and the gen overheated |
| 23:45.31 | TecnoBrat | databases galore down :( |
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