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00:15.22alaytonhmm
00:15.42alaytonmy melee attacks no longer refresh judgements, and i do not, in fact, have my damage on hit anymore
00:15.43alaytonfail.
00:16.10Lukianmy melee attacks no longer refresh judgements <- bug? :/
00:18.53alaytoni would hope so
00:19.11alaytoni want my bugged damage back though, i have to judge multiple times now
00:19.22Lukianhah :p
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00:37.06g0urraguys
00:37.15g0urrawhat would you do if you saw a mob as big as this?
00:37.15g0urrahttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/gOurra/WoWScrnShot_080208_022507.jpg
00:39.05Lukianrun? :D
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01:05.32Raws|ROCKINORRISPelvic thrust in its general direction
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02:35.33Poul|PTwas there any new glyphs in the new build?
02:37.41Poul|PThttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=glyphs#uncategorized-spells
02:37.55Poul|PTnvm
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03:47.37LukianI think my hunter does more dps as survival :/
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05:17.16kuinkalalalala
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05:20.21JunkHead-WorkOH EM GEE
05:24.26kuinkala:
05:24.28kuinkala:o
05:24.34JunkHead-Work!!!
05:24.36kuinkalaOh noes someone is present
05:24.36kuinkala!
05:24.45JunkHead-WorkYOU HAS PRESENTS?!!?
05:24.48JunkHead-WorkGIMMEH!
05:25.01kuinkalaTeeheee
05:26.32Mori-nekomews
05:26.43JunkHead-WorkI worked 4 hours overtime!
05:26.48kuinkalahttp://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=30224
05:26.55JunkHead-WorkFirst overtime for me in a long time.
05:27.02kuinkalaOvertime r00ls :o Unless you hate your job
05:27.18JunkHead-WorkWell... I don't HATE my job... but I do rather dislike it.
05:28.13JunkHead-Workwhat?
05:28.45kuinkalaWhat what
05:30.25kuinkalahttp://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=33697&p=307564 LMAO
05:30.33kuinkalaWhat a verbal hero (or not)
05:35.13JunkHead-WorkI replied to the shower thread.:P
05:35.32kuinkala:D
05:36.27JunkHead-WorkYou know what i want?
05:36.32JunkHead-Worka donut
05:36.34JunkHead-Workand some milk
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06:03.58Ziconrubs kuinkala
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06:44.12JunkHead-Workso the beta has a threat meter now?
06:47.04Lukianaye
06:47.11Lukianwell
06:47.30Lukianthreat data, but you still need some way to display it over than tooltips and floating combat text? :D
07:01.38JunkHead-WorkI'm sure SCT/SCTD will work with it. But yeah a graph would be ncier.
07:01.41JunkHead-Worknicer*
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07:22.09JunkHead-Workfriend of mine got the healing shield from za
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07:29.11LukianOmen will support it soon enough (or other addons)
07:29.47JunkHead-Worki have some pasta
07:29.52JunkHead-Workwhatcha think about that?
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07:34.11Lukiansteals it 'cause he's hungry
07:34.39JunkHead-WorkI'm also watching gi joe
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08:39.54ZiconLala
08:40.55ZiconI think I inhaled a bug.
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09:42.35JunkHead-Worki r tired
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10:05.23JunkHead-WorkI'm watchign perhaps the best worst movie ever.
10:05.56JunkHead-Workhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357585/
10:51.25Juippissounds great
10:53.59JuippisJunkHead-Work: there's Decoyes II too
10:55.16JunkHead-Work!
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14:02.50JuippisCadwallion: are you from EU or US?
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14:15.20robotuschoh my
14:15.37robotuschhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/WoWScrnShot_080208_160502.jpg & http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/WoWScrnShot_080208_161208.jpg
14:15.40robotusch+ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/WoWScrnShot_080208_080326.jpg
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14:42.00fricrobotusch: lol, someone doing the AQ quest chain? o_O or what is it?
14:45.43CadwallionJuippis: US
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14:56.50kahdgarxiMorning
14:58.01kahdgarxiWhere is the 'correct' place to report bugs on the site?
14:58.18selckinforum for it i think
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15:28.27SatonenHeya :D
15:28.35SatonenWhere I can learn 2h axe skill?
15:28.46kahdgarxilol
15:29.00kahdgarxihttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=197
15:29.43Satonenah ty didint find it o.O
15:31.59kahdgarxiare you alliance or horde?
15:33.36Satonenhordfe
15:33.40Satonenhorde* :D
15:33.41FinalXcan you actually buy something from those achievement points? or spend em to get something useful in general?
15:34.00kahdgarxiNo FinalX, blizz stated that there won't be anything you can spend them on.
15:34.22FinalXaw
15:35.02Gnarfozlink to that oO
15:35.52GnarfozI'd find that really strange, considering a) they made achievements rewards "points" at all b) they're excluding the most prodigious ones from giving points (Feats of Strength)
15:35.56Gnarfoz~x en de prodigious
15:36.10Gnarfozclose enough to what I wanted to say ^^
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15:41.39kahdgarxibah
15:41.45kahdgarxii've been reading so much stuff lately
15:41.51kahdgarxihang on, let me see if I can find it.
15:43.50GnarfozI'd think it a waste to not make this some kind of AA system like EQ had
15:44.54g0urraAchievementolics Anonymous?
15:45.51Gnarfozalternative advancements
15:51.14kahdgarxiwell I can't find the quote that I seem to remember reading concerning achievement points
15:51.25kahdgarxiand everything I am finding is indicating otherwise.. but who knows
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15:57.32Satonenhey I have one hunter questio
15:57.33Satonenn
15:57.41Satonenabout training points
15:58.12g0urragoa head
15:58.13Satonendoes lvl 6 boar get more training points than lvl 12 cat
15:58.14g0urrago ahead*
15:58.19g0urrayes
15:58.21g0urraerr
15:58.21g0urrano
15:58.23g0urrathe other way
15:58.43g0urrait depends on loyalty and level
15:58.48Satonenhow does they get training points? :S
15:59.09Satonenbecause I wont keep same pet to lvl 70 I think :D
15:59.30g0urrayour training points increase with loyalty and level
15:59.50g0urrathere's no difference between pet types afaik
16:07.43Satonens
16:12.46Satonenso I will lose nothing if I dont keep same pet from low lvls
16:24.03bindiiSatonen no you dont
16:24.13bindiiif you get new pet at lvl 70, and the pet is lvl 70
16:24.23bindiieach time it gains loalty you get training points
16:24.28bindiiand theres nice lbalblabl thing ok =D
16:24.37bindiievery pet will have 350 training points in the end
16:31.47Satonenty =)
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17:45.28kadrahilslaps Raws around a bit with a large trout
17:45.46RawsMy dog is scared pantsless of something, and is stuffing herself under my desk
17:46.27kadrahilprobably your face
17:46.32kadrahiloooooooooh burrrrrrrrnnnnn
17:46.44RawsPROBABLY
17:48.45Joltnaww
17:49.02JoltRaws: Maybe you have a burglar :o
17:49.03Joltdun dun dun!
17:50.24Raws:O
17:50.32Rawsnah, it's broad daylight :P
17:50.44DaedalsIm getting bugs in wowhead's ads
17:50.51Rawsand if there was a burglar, she would be busy greeting and licking him
17:51.22Daedalsthe ads redirect to another ad site, then it redirects, back, redirects again and again and again... endless loop
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17:51.44Daedalsoops one comma in the wrong place
17:52.05Daedalsso my browser never stops loading the ads
17:52.05RawsDaedals: if you know with which ad(s) that's happening, staff can probably look into it
17:52.13RawsUnless it's all ads
17:53.01Daedalsno its just the one
17:53.06Daedalsbut I cant see what it is
17:53.15Raws:\
17:53.21Daedalsbecause its only black because it doesnt load anything
17:53.32RawsBad buzz
17:53.32Daedalsit just redirects and loops
17:53.49Daedalsat least I know the networks :D
17:53.54Rawsheh
17:54.29RawsPing Skosiris or TecnoBrat (or Mal if he's around), they'll probably appreciate the info
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18:09.52SkosirisRaws: hi
18:10.07RawsHELLO SIR I AM LOOKING INTO BUYING A QUANTITY OF MASKING TAPE
18:10.14RawsI mean, Daedals was talking about some ad problems
18:10.39Daedalsyea, I've had them for the last few days
18:10.39Skosirishttp://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=142&p=1312
18:10.57Daedalsits not like that
18:11.40Daedalsthe ad redirects to another ad, then it redirects back. endless loop. The page never stops loading
18:12.53Skosiriscan you get the url of the iframe or somethign
18:13.03Daedalshmm maybe
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18:34.29RawsI often wonder if "diarrhea" counts as onomatopoeia
18:38.21Ziconraws: Thank you for that very disturbing thought.
18:39.47ecstasiawoo, my new guild is in a guildwar on the realm forums
18:39.48ecstasialol
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18:48.26Suhovslaps Skosiris around a bit with a large trout
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19:01.41Juippisslaps Raws with a packet of laxatives
19:01.51RawsYikes
19:02.02RawsLightning just hit about 20 yards from my house
19:02.16RawsI didn't see exactly where it hit though, and I don't see any trees smoking
19:02.23RawsThat was one hell of a crack
19:02.38Juippisdamn, did my chain lightning miss? Need more hit rating!
19:02.40Juippisno really, not a joke
19:02.43Juippisglad you're okay mate!
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19:03.07Rawslol
19:03.23RawsWell, there's not much of a threat if you're inside :P
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19:14.36Lukianso wotlk bosses don't crush?
19:15.26Gary13579nope
19:16.07Lukiansay again? :p
19:16.16Lukiani'm half asleep so not sure which way to take that
19:16.33Ziconkidnaps lukian, folds him up neatly, and uses him as a pillow.
19:16.49Lukiansnuggles with Zicon
19:22.08Gary13579Lukian: they don't crush
19:23.47LukianGary13579, sweet
19:24.09Lukianthat explains the change of the anticipation talents
19:24.18Lukianand makes DK's very valid tanks
19:29.23kuinkalaTISPPISIIMASAA
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19:31.28Ziconrubs kuinkala
19:37.00JuippisLukian: somehow Zicon reminds me of Faye in questionable content
19:37.06JuippisLukian: you feel the same?
19:37.43ZiconHey! I have -never- driven a car off the road!
19:37.48g0urraloool Faye
19:38.01JuippisZicon: you just don't know it ;-)
19:38.21Juippiswith those bra's you were linking... if you have similar. Yes, they can be smelled
19:39.11Zicon"similar"? That was my bra. On my chest. :p
19:40.01Juippisme no no believ... WHAT
19:40.03Juippishawt
19:40.09Juippissee
19:40.12JuippisFaye would do that!
19:40.15kuinkalaTISPPISIIMASAA
19:40.19kuinkalaOoops
19:40.26Juippisripsanpinpparallallei
19:40.44g0urraperkkele
19:40.53kuinkala*perkele
19:40.54kuinkala:)
19:41.04kuinkalaI was making a shitroom for my friend today
19:41.13JuippisZicon: I just thought it was some random pic from the net. Didn't even look at it closely...
19:41.22Juippispajamaja :-D
19:41.27Juippishaha
19:41.35Ziconjuippis: Nyet, was the real deal. :p
19:42.34Juippisneed to relink!
19:42.40ZiconHaha
19:42.56Juippisit was drop...box. or something. Browser history ->
19:43.01kuinkalaJuippis: Actually it's a bathroom, not only a shitroom :) But anyway.
19:43.14Juippisoh come on
19:43.17Juippishow pathetic can I be
19:43.19kuinkalaFricking sweaty job, and can't drink while doing it
19:43.21Juippisit's just an image
19:43.37Juippisand now it's in my harddrive...
19:43.41JuippisHAHA. Just joking
19:43.55Juippiskuinkala: heh
19:43.57Juippiskuinkala: indoors?
19:44.01Juippisyep.
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19:45.40kuinkalaIndoors, yes
19:45.48kuinkalaExpensive shit :/
19:46.09kuinkala10700e bathroom, it's only 7m2
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19:48.21Juippis"expensive shit" :-D
19:48.27kuinkala:D
19:48.42kuinkalaWell, it is :| if you think about the size
19:48.59kuinkala(7m2 = 21,5 square feet or something very close to that)
19:49.10kuinkalaAnd that amount is about 15000$
19:49.50kuinkalaI think it IS expensive, especially because my friend is not any kinda rich guy - at least for next two years
19:54.44Gnarfozhmm
19:55.16Gnarfozcan either the wowhead search plugin get an option to search on the wotlk page, or the normal page be made to "carry over" the entire request string when you click the wotlk logo?
19:56.03Gnarfoz(i.e. if I'm on http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20773 switch to http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=20773 not to http://wotlk.wowhead.com/)
19:56.26g0urraYou know, you could just go to the address bar and change www to wotlk.
19:56.59Gnarfozthanks for your very helpful answer >_>
19:57.38g0urraYou're welcome
19:58.04kuinkalaYou are whalecum
19:58.23Gnarfozhow about that's a solution you can use when doing it once, but one that gets pretty annoying when you're doing it several times a day :p
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20:04.57Poul|PTis it posible to grind rep with seamwheedle cartel (all 4) at the same time?
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20:10.07Poul|PTis it even posible to get exalted with em?
20:11.00Juippishmm
20:11.14Juippisyou got some repu with steamwheel cartel by running DM
20:11.19Juippisif I remember this correctly
20:11.30Poul|PTfound this http://www.bookofwarcraft.com/guides/reputation/steamwheedle-cartel/steamwheedle-cartel-mob-reputation.htm
20:11.32Juippis(c'mon, it was before TBC and wasn't even fun then)
20:11.45Poul|PTif i read it right, i cant get rep after honored?
20:12.08Poul|PTim just gonna kill some time while at work :D
20:13.00Juippishttp://www.wowhead.com/?quest=5525
20:13.54Juippisand by killing bosses in DM too, I guess
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20:15.08Poul|PTis it repeatable?
20:15.33Juippisyes
20:15.36Juippisread the comments :-)
20:15.46Juippisyou need a key drop from some DM mob
20:15.49Poul|PThaha
20:15.49Juippisto free Knot
20:15.54Poul|PTback and forward
20:15.55Poul|PTlong way .D
20:16.01Poul|PTas you cant stack em up
20:16.08Juippisyea
20:16.12Poul|PTmust be something easyer
20:16.14Juippiswell you asked if it's possible...
20:16.23Poul|PT:D
20:16.24Juippisimo the whole idea is just stupid as hell :-P
20:16.29Poul|PT_DDD
20:16.37Juippisbetter farm reputation with Netherwing, or Skyguards
20:16.44Juippisit could actually benefit you
20:17.17Poul|PTSHHH
20:17.24Poul|PThow you know!
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20:26.05Lukiantickles Zicon
20:33.38JuippisPoul|PT: the pirate hat is quite sexy to be honest
20:38.11Juippis... but it doesn't come from Steamwheel Cartel...
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21:18.02Lukianhttp://chargin.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5205#5205 <- thoughts/feedback?
21:18.10Lukian(assuming that's public viewable)
21:19.24g0urrait's not
21:19.48Lukianhmm nm then
21:20.01LukianI'm debating DST
21:20.34LukianMy theory is that it's actually quite terrible for hunters, compared to AP trinkets, and offers more benefit to rogues and feral druids
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21:21.49LukianRogue spreadsheets! link them please!
21:50.33Lukiancopied my post here: http://ace.pastey.net/92993-cx5u
21:58.41Gary13579Lukian: the difference being, that druids can't dps :P
21:58.58Lukiansighs
21:59.10Lukianonly because blizzard didn't scale us well enough until 3.0
21:59.18Gary13579Not trying to start a fight, but a Rogue should always out DPS a kitty.
21:59.30Gary13579and 3.0 is still a while off :P
22:06.24JuippisGary13579: you're wrong! I saw a cat durid saying mangel dps once
22:06.40Gary13579lol
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22:20.01Lukianmy rogue calculations were out
22:20.05Lukianthe guy was in pvp gear
22:20.11Lukianfor combat spec / pve gear it's 75 DPS
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22:27.28Gary13579yeah that sounds much more accurate
22:30.04Lukianheh interesting
22:30.15Lukianferal druid white dps is 46% and combat swords is 64%
22:53.01Lukianhmm
22:53.16LukianDST hits 75 DPS for hunters, but only a zero-latency / perfect weaving situtation
22:53.26Lukianwith about 300ms oceanic latency, it's more like 36 DPS ;/
23:00.15Lukianhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=30621#comments
23:00.23LukianLOL I know a few people in my guild that could use that
23:00.31LukianEspecially a ret paladin
23:07.56Juippis"Best trinket ever for a ret pally. ~50% or so crit on judgement of command, can use rank 1 since the proc is the same. Reduces more threat than it actually does."
23:07.59Juippishax
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23:14.54Gnarfozthat's bs oO
23:15.06Gnarfozseal proc damage is the same for all ranks, judgement isn't
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23:25.24LukianGnarfoz, he said judgement
23:25.33Lukianie. it drops more threat than the judgement actually causes.
23:25.46Lukian(particularly in the case of rank 1)
23:25.53Gnarfozyeah... also doing like 60dmg if you judge
23:26.01Gnarfozwhy the fuck would you do that ;>
23:26.14Lukianbecause you are wiping ~700 off your threat each time
23:26.21Gnarfozyou're already doing shit dps as is
23:26.24Gnarfoz;p
23:26.33Lukian...
23:26.40LukianI'm guessing you haven't seen good ret paladins
23:26.44GnarfozI have
23:26.53LukianAnd you are judging, because you don't have anything else to do
23:26.59Lukianotherwise you'd just sit there with SoC up.
23:27.19Gnarfozor... you could judge max rank SoC which would do damage
23:27.26Gnarfoz(also, SoB.)
23:27.52Gnarfozanyway, this is all soon to be a thing of the past, anyway ^^
23:27.54Lukianthat could a) kill your mana, b) increase your threat too much (especially without the trinket)
23:28.05Lukian(he might be alliance? :P)
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23:48.59Lukianhttp://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080308005000ut7.jpg
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