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00:15.22 | alayton | hmm |
00:15.42 | alayton | my melee attacks no longer refresh judgements, and i do not, in fact, have my damage on hit anymore |
00:15.43 | alayton | fail. |
00:16.10 | Lukian | my melee attacks no longer refresh judgements <- bug? :/ |
00:18.53 | alayton | i would hope so |
00:19.11 | alayton | i want my bugged damage back though, i have to judge multiple times now |
00:19.22 | Lukian | hah :p |
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00:37.06 | g0urra | guys |
00:37.15 | g0urra | what would you do if you saw a mob as big as this? |
00:37.15 | g0urra | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/gOurra/WoWScrnShot_080208_022507.jpg |
00:39.05 | Lukian | run? :D |
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01:05.32 | Raws|ROCKINORRIS | Pelvic thrust in its general direction |
01:42.04 | TecnoBrat | http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting.html |
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02:35.33 | Poul|PT | was there any new glyphs in the new build? |
02:37.41 | Poul|PT | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?search=glyphs#uncategorized-spells |
02:37.55 | Poul|PT | nvm |
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03:47.37 | Lukian | I think my hunter does more dps as survival :/ |
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05:17.16 | kuinkala | lalala |
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05:20.21 | JunkHead-Work | OH EM GEE |
05:24.26 | kuinkala | : |
05:24.28 | kuinkala | :o |
05:24.34 | JunkHead-Work | !!! |
05:24.36 | kuinkala | Oh noes someone is present |
05:24.36 | kuinkala | ! |
05:24.45 | JunkHead-Work | YOU HAS PRESENTS?!!? |
05:24.48 | JunkHead-Work | GIMMEH! |
05:25.01 | kuinkala | Teeheee |
05:26.32 | Mori-neko | mews |
05:26.43 | JunkHead-Work | I worked 4 hours overtime! |
05:26.48 | kuinkala | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=30224 |
05:26.55 | JunkHead-Work | First overtime for me in a long time. |
05:27.02 | kuinkala | Overtime r00ls :o Unless you hate your job |
05:27.18 | JunkHead-Work | Well... I don't HATE my job... but I do rather dislike it. |
05:28.13 | JunkHead-Work | what? |
05:28.45 | kuinkala | What what |
05:30.25 | kuinkala | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=33697&p=307564 LMAO |
05:30.33 | kuinkala | What a verbal hero (or not) |
05:35.13 | JunkHead-Work | I replied to the shower thread.:P |
05:35.32 | kuinkala | :D |
05:36.27 | JunkHead-Work | You know what i want? |
05:36.32 | JunkHead-Work | a donut |
05:36.34 | JunkHead-Work | and some milk |
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06:03.58 | Zicon | rubs kuinkala |
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06:44.12 | JunkHead-Work | so the beta has a threat meter now? |
06:47.04 | Lukian | aye |
06:47.11 | Lukian | well |
06:47.30 | Lukian | threat data, but you still need some way to display it over than tooltips and floating combat text? :D |
07:01.38 | JunkHead-Work | I'm sure SCT/SCTD will work with it. But yeah a graph would be ncier. |
07:01.41 | JunkHead-Work | nicer* |
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07:22.09 | JunkHead-Work | friend of mine got the healing shield from za |
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07:29.11 | Lukian | Omen will support it soon enough (or other addons) |
07:29.47 | JunkHead-Work | i have some pasta |
07:29.52 | JunkHead-Work | whatcha think about that? |
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07:34.11 | Lukian | steals it 'cause he's hungry |
07:34.39 | JunkHead-Work | I'm also watching gi joe |
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08:39.54 | Zicon | Lala |
08:40.55 | Zicon | I think I inhaled a bug. |
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09:42.35 | JunkHead-Work | i r tired |
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10:05.23 | JunkHead-Work | I'm watchign perhaps the best worst movie ever. |
10:05.56 | JunkHead-Work | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0357585/ |
10:51.25 | Juippis | sounds great |
10:53.59 | Juippis | JunkHead-Work: there's Decoyes II too |
10:55.16 | JunkHead-Work | ! |
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14:02.50 | Juippis | Cadwallion: are you from EU or US? |
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14:15.20 | robotusch | oh my |
14:15.37 | robotusch | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/WoWScrnShot_080208_160502.jpg & http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/WoWScrnShot_080208_161208.jpg |
14:15.40 | robotusch | + http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/robotusch/WoWScrnShot_080208_080326.jpg |
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14:42.00 | fric | robotusch: lol, someone doing the AQ quest chain? o_O or what is it? |
14:45.43 | Cadwallion | Juippis: US |
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14:56.50 | kahdgarxi | Morning |
14:58.01 | kahdgarxi | Where is the 'correct' place to report bugs on the site? |
14:58.18 | selckin | forum for it i think |
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15:28.27 | Satonen | Heya :D |
15:28.35 | Satonen | Where I can learn 2h axe skill? |
15:28.46 | kahdgarxi | lol |
15:29.00 | kahdgarxi | http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=197 |
15:29.43 | Satonen | ah ty didint find it o.O |
15:31.59 | kahdgarxi | are you alliance or horde? |
15:33.36 | Satonen | hordfe |
15:33.40 | Satonen | horde* :D |
15:33.41 | FinalX | can you actually buy something from those achievement points? or spend em to get something useful in general? |
15:34.00 | kahdgarxi | No FinalX, blizz stated that there won't be anything you can spend them on. |
15:34.22 | FinalX | aw |
15:35.02 | Gnarfoz | link to that oO |
15:35.52 | Gnarfoz | I'd find that really strange, considering a) they made achievements rewards "points" at all b) they're excluding the most prodigious ones from giving points (Feats of Strength) |
15:35.56 | Gnarfoz | ~x en de prodigious |
15:36.10 | Gnarfoz | close enough to what I wanted to say ^^ |
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15:41.39 | kahdgarxi | bah |
15:41.45 | kahdgarxi | i've been reading so much stuff lately |
15:41.51 | kahdgarxi | hang on, let me see if I can find it. |
15:43.50 | Gnarfoz | I'd think it a waste to not make this some kind of AA system like EQ had |
15:44.54 | g0urra | Achievementolics Anonymous? |
15:45.51 | Gnarfoz | alternative advancements |
15:51.14 | kahdgarxi | well I can't find the quote that I seem to remember reading concerning achievement points |
15:51.25 | kahdgarxi | and everything I am finding is indicating otherwise.. but who knows |
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15:57.32 | Satonen | hey I have one hunter questio |
15:57.33 | Satonen | n |
15:57.41 | Satonen | about training points |
15:58.12 | g0urra | goa head |
15:58.13 | Satonen | does lvl 6 boar get more training points than lvl 12 cat |
15:58.14 | g0urra | go ahead* |
15:58.19 | g0urra | yes |
15:58.21 | g0urra | err |
15:58.21 | g0urra | no |
15:58.23 | g0urra | the other way |
15:58.43 | g0urra | it depends on loyalty and level |
15:58.48 | Satonen | how does they get training points? :S |
15:59.09 | Satonen | because I wont keep same pet to lvl 70 I think :D |
15:59.30 | g0urra | your training points increase with loyalty and level |
15:59.50 | g0urra | there's no difference between pet types afaik |
16:07.43 | Satonen | s |
16:12.46 | Satonen | so I will lose nothing if I dont keep same pet from low lvls |
16:24.03 | bindii | Satonen no you dont |
16:24.13 | bindii | if you get new pet at lvl 70, and the pet is lvl 70 |
16:24.23 | bindii | each time it gains loalty you get training points |
16:24.28 | bindii | and theres nice lbalblabl thing ok =D |
16:24.37 | bindii | every pet will have 350 training points in the end |
16:31.47 | Satonen | ty =) |
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17:45.28 | kadrahil | slaps Raws around a bit with a large trout |
17:45.46 | Raws | My dog is scared pantsless of something, and is stuffing herself under my desk |
17:46.27 | kadrahil | probably your face |
17:46.32 | kadrahil | oooooooooh burrrrrrrrnnnnn |
17:46.44 | Raws | PROBABLY |
17:48.45 | Jolt | naww |
17:49.02 | Jolt | Raws: Maybe you have a burglar :o |
17:49.03 | Jolt | dun dun dun! |
17:50.24 | Raws | :O |
17:50.32 | Raws | nah, it's broad daylight :P |
17:50.44 | Daedals | Im getting bugs in wowhead's ads |
17:50.51 | Raws | and if there was a burglar, she would be busy greeting and licking him |
17:51.22 | Daedals | the ads redirect to another ad site, then it redirects, back, redirects again and again and again... endless loop |
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17:51.44 | Daedals | oops one comma in the wrong place |
17:52.05 | Daedals | so my browser never stops loading the ads |
17:52.05 | Raws | Daedals: if you know with which ad(s) that's happening, staff can probably look into it |
17:52.13 | Raws | Unless it's all ads |
17:53.01 | Daedals | no its just the one |
17:53.06 | Daedals | but I cant see what it is |
17:53.15 | Raws | :\ |
17:53.21 | Daedals | because its only black because it doesnt load anything |
17:53.32 | Raws | Bad buzz |
17:53.32 | Daedals | it just redirects and loops |
17:53.49 | Daedals | at least I know the networks :D |
17:53.54 | Raws | heh |
17:54.29 | Raws | Ping Skosiris or TecnoBrat (or Mal if he's around), they'll probably appreciate the info |
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18:09.52 | Skosiris | Raws: hi |
18:10.07 | Raws | HELLO SIR I AM LOOKING INTO BUYING A QUANTITY OF MASKING TAPE |
18:10.14 | Raws | I mean, Daedals was talking about some ad problems |
18:10.39 | Daedals | yea, I've had them for the last few days |
18:10.39 | Skosiris | http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=142&p=1312 |
18:10.57 | Daedals | its not like that |
18:11.40 | Daedals | the ad redirects to another ad, then it redirects back. endless loop. The page never stops loading |
18:12.53 | Skosiris | can you get the url of the iframe or somethign |
18:13.03 | Daedals | hmm maybe |
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18:34.29 | Raws | I often wonder if "diarrhea" counts as onomatopoeia |
18:38.21 | Zicon | raws: Thank you for that very disturbing thought. |
18:39.47 | ecstasia | woo, my new guild is in a guildwar on the realm forums |
18:39.48 | ecstasia | lol |
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18:48.26 | Suhov | slaps Skosiris around a bit with a large trout |
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19:01.41 | Juippis | slaps Raws with a packet of laxatives |
19:01.51 | Raws | Yikes |
19:02.02 | Raws | Lightning just hit about 20 yards from my house |
19:02.16 | Raws | I didn't see exactly where it hit though, and I don't see any trees smoking |
19:02.23 | Raws | That was one hell of a crack |
19:02.38 | Juippis | damn, did my chain lightning miss? Need more hit rating! |
19:02.40 | Juippis | no really, not a joke |
19:02.43 | Juippis | glad you're okay mate! |
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19:03.07 | Raws | lol |
19:03.23 | Raws | Well, there's not much of a threat if you're inside :P |
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19:14.36 | Lukian | so wotlk bosses don't crush? |
19:15.26 | Gary13579 | nope |
19:16.07 | Lukian | say again? :p |
19:16.16 | Lukian | i'm half asleep so not sure which way to take that |
19:16.33 | Zicon | kidnaps lukian, folds him up neatly, and uses him as a pillow. |
19:16.49 | Lukian | snuggles with Zicon |
19:22.08 | Gary13579 | Lukian: they don't crush |
19:23.47 | Lukian | Gary13579, sweet |
19:24.09 | Lukian | that explains the change of the anticipation talents |
19:24.18 | Lukian | and makes DK's very valid tanks |
19:29.23 | kuinkala | TISPPISIIMASAA |
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19:31.28 | Zicon | rubs kuinkala |
19:37.00 | Juippis | Lukian: somehow Zicon reminds me of Faye in questionable content |
19:37.06 | Juippis | Lukian: you feel the same? |
19:37.43 | Zicon | Hey! I have -never- driven a car off the road! |
19:37.48 | g0urra | loool Faye |
19:38.01 | Juippis | Zicon: you just don't know it ;-) |
19:38.21 | Juippis | with those bra's you were linking... if you have similar. Yes, they can be smelled |
19:39.11 | Zicon | "similar"? That was my bra. On my chest. :p |
19:40.01 | Juippis | me no no believ... WHAT |
19:40.03 | Juippis | hawt |
19:40.09 | Juippis | see |
19:40.12 | Juippis | Faye would do that! |
19:40.15 | kuinkala | TISPPISIIMASAA |
19:40.19 | kuinkala | Ooops |
19:40.26 | Juippis | ripsanpinpparallallei |
19:40.44 | g0urra | perkkele |
19:40.53 | kuinkala | *perkele |
19:40.54 | kuinkala | :) |
19:41.04 | kuinkala | I was making a shitroom for my friend today |
19:41.13 | Juippis | Zicon: I just thought it was some random pic from the net. Didn't even look at it closely... |
19:41.22 | Juippis | pajamaja :-D |
19:41.27 | Juippis | haha |
19:41.35 | Zicon | juippis: Nyet, was the real deal. :p |
19:42.34 | Juippis | need to relink! |
19:42.40 | Zicon | Haha |
19:42.56 | Juippis | it was drop...box. or something. Browser history -> |
19:43.01 | kuinkala | Juippis: Actually it's a bathroom, not only a shitroom :) But anyway. |
19:43.14 | Juippis | oh come on |
19:43.17 | Juippis | how pathetic can I be |
19:43.19 | kuinkala | Fricking sweaty job, and can't drink while doing it |
19:43.21 | Juippis | it's just an image |
19:43.37 | Juippis | and now it's in my harddrive... |
19:43.41 | Juippis | HAHA. Just joking |
19:43.55 | Juippis | kuinkala: heh |
19:43.57 | Juippis | kuinkala: indoors? |
19:44.01 | Juippis | yep. |
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19:45.40 | kuinkala | Indoors, yes |
19:45.48 | kuinkala | Expensive shit :/ |
19:46.09 | kuinkala | 10700e bathroom, it's only 7m2 |
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19:48.21 | Juippis | "expensive shit" :-D |
19:48.27 | kuinkala | :D |
19:48.42 | kuinkala | Well, it is :| if you think about the size |
19:48.59 | kuinkala | (7m2 = 21,5 square feet or something very close to that) |
19:49.10 | kuinkala | And that amount is about 15000$ |
19:49.50 | kuinkala | I think it IS expensive, especially because my friend is not any kinda rich guy - at least for next two years |
19:54.44 | Gnarfoz | hmm |
19:55.16 | Gnarfoz | can either the wowhead search plugin get an option to search on the wotlk page, or the normal page be made to "carry over" the entire request string when you click the wotlk logo? |
19:56.03 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. if I'm on http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=20773 switch to http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=20773 not to http://wotlk.wowhead.com/) |
19:56.26 | g0urra | You know, you could just go to the address bar and change www to wotlk. |
19:56.59 | Gnarfoz | thanks for your very helpful answer >_> |
19:57.38 | g0urra | You're welcome |
19:58.04 | kuinkala | You are whalecum |
19:58.23 | Gnarfoz | how about that's a solution you can use when doing it once, but one that gets pretty annoying when you're doing it several times a day :p |
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20:04.57 | Poul|PT | is it posible to grind rep with seamwheedle cartel (all 4) at the same time? |
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20:10.07 | Poul|PT | is it even posible to get exalted with em? |
20:11.00 | Juippis | hmm |
20:11.14 | Juippis | you got some repu with steamwheel cartel by running DM |
20:11.19 | Juippis | if I remember this correctly |
20:11.30 | Poul|PT | found this http://www.bookofwarcraft.com/guides/reputation/steamwheedle-cartel/steamwheedle-cartel-mob-reputation.htm |
20:11.32 | Juippis | (c'mon, it was before TBC and wasn't even fun then) |
20:11.45 | Poul|PT | if i read it right, i cant get rep after honored? |
20:12.08 | Poul|PT | im just gonna kill some time while at work :D |
20:13.00 | Juippis | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=5525 |
20:13.54 | Juippis | and by killing bosses in DM too, I guess |
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20:15.08 | Poul|PT | is it repeatable? |
20:15.33 | Juippis | yes |
20:15.36 | Juippis | read the comments :-) |
20:15.46 | Juippis | you need a key drop from some DM mob |
20:15.49 | Poul|PT | haha |
20:15.49 | Juippis | to free Knot |
20:15.54 | Poul|PT | back and forward |
20:15.55 | Poul|PT | long way .D |
20:16.01 | Poul|PT | as you cant stack em up |
20:16.08 | Juippis | yea |
20:16.12 | Poul|PT | must be something easyer |
20:16.14 | Juippis | well you asked if it's possible... |
20:16.23 | Poul|PT | :D |
20:16.24 | Juippis | imo the whole idea is just stupid as hell :-P |
20:16.29 | Poul|PT | _DDD |
20:16.37 | Juippis | better farm reputation with Netherwing, or Skyguards |
20:16.44 | Juippis | it could actually benefit you |
20:17.17 | Poul|PT | SHHH |
20:17.24 | Poul|PT | how you know! |
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20:26.05 | Lukian | tickles Zicon |
20:33.38 | Juippis | Poul|PT: the pirate hat is quite sexy to be honest |
20:38.11 | Juippis | ... but it doesn't come from Steamwheel Cartel... |
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21:18.02 | Lukian | http://chargin.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5205#5205 <- thoughts/feedback? |
21:18.10 | Lukian | (assuming that's public viewable) |
21:19.24 | g0urra | it's not |
21:19.48 | Lukian | hmm nm then |
21:20.01 | Lukian | I'm debating DST |
21:20.34 | Lukian | My theory is that it's actually quite terrible for hunters, compared to AP trinkets, and offers more benefit to rogues and feral druids |
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21:21.49 | Lukian | Rogue spreadsheets! link them please! |
21:50.33 | Lukian | copied my post here: http://ace.pastey.net/92993-cx5u |
21:58.41 | Gary13579 | Lukian: the difference being, that druids can't dps :P |
21:58.58 | Lukian | sighs |
21:59.10 | Lukian | only because blizzard didn't scale us well enough until 3.0 |
21:59.18 | Gary13579 | Not trying to start a fight, but a Rogue should always out DPS a kitty. |
21:59.30 | Gary13579 | and 3.0 is still a while off :P |
22:06.24 | Juippis | Gary13579: you're wrong! I saw a cat durid saying mangel dps once |
22:06.40 | Gary13579 | lol |
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22:20.01 | Lukian | my rogue calculations were out |
22:20.05 | Lukian | the guy was in pvp gear |
22:20.11 | Lukian | for combat spec / pve gear it's 75 DPS |
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22:27.28 | Gary13579 | yeah that sounds much more accurate |
22:30.04 | Lukian | heh interesting |
22:30.15 | Lukian | feral druid white dps is 46% and combat swords is 64% |
22:53.01 | Lukian | hmm |
22:53.16 | Lukian | DST hits 75 DPS for hunters, but only a zero-latency / perfect weaving situtation |
22:53.26 | Lukian | with about 300ms oceanic latency, it's more like 36 DPS ;/ |
23:00.15 | Lukian | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30621#comments |
23:00.23 | Lukian | LOL I know a few people in my guild that could use that |
23:00.31 | Lukian | Especially a ret paladin |
23:07.56 | Juippis | "Best trinket ever for a ret pally. ~50% or so crit on judgement of command, can use rank 1 since the proc is the same. Reduces more threat than it actually does." |
23:07.59 | Juippis | hax |
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23:14.54 | Gnarfoz | that's bs oO |
23:15.06 | Gnarfoz | seal proc damage is the same for all ranks, judgement isn't |
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23:25.24 | Lukian | Gnarfoz, he said judgement |
23:25.33 | Lukian | ie. it drops more threat than the judgement actually causes. |
23:25.46 | Lukian | (particularly in the case of rank 1) |
23:25.53 | Gnarfoz | yeah... also doing like 60dmg if you judge |
23:26.01 | Gnarfoz | why the fuck would you do that ;> |
23:26.14 | Lukian | because you are wiping ~700 off your threat each time |
23:26.21 | Gnarfoz | you're already doing shit dps as is |
23:26.24 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
23:26.33 | Lukian | ... |
23:26.40 | Lukian | I'm guessing you haven't seen good ret paladins |
23:26.44 | Gnarfoz | I have |
23:26.53 | Lukian | And you are judging, because you don't have anything else to do |
23:26.59 | Lukian | otherwise you'd just sit there with SoC up. |
23:27.19 | Gnarfoz | or... you could judge max rank SoC which would do damage |
23:27.26 | Gnarfoz | (also, SoB.) |
23:27.52 | Gnarfoz | anyway, this is all soon to be a thing of the past, anyway ^^ |
23:27.54 | Lukian | that could a) kill your mana, b) increase your threat too much (especially without the trinket) |
23:28.05 | Lukian | (he might be alliance? :P) |
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23:48.59 | Lukian | http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot080308005000ut7.jpg |
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