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00:11.16friclol @ the chat in that screen
00:25.44boman^Someone on my server did a nazi sign and got banned for 3 days, or maybe perm banned. o:
00:25.47boman^Can't remember.
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00:26.20Iolerofl
00:27.28Ioleany got solution for filefront problem ?
00:36.18Lukianuse a different website?
00:36.50Iolei want to watch a movie over there but i can't and i can't download it either
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01:47.42CBGAm I the only person alive who hasn't got good enough gear to raid yet? No luck finding any guild doing low 70 instances...
02:01.05Lukiandoes killing an animal boss save you to kara?
02:01.49LukianCBG, I'm sure there's heroic guilds
02:02.03CBGI'm a brand new 70 with crap gear :(
02:02.07Lukianfurthermore, you should be able to get high quality blues from netherstorm/smv quests which are suitable for kar
02:02.09Lukiankara
02:02.14Lukiannot to mention pvp gear
02:02.25Gnarfozbadges.
02:02.25CBGI want to do instances like SV and Bot
02:03.56LukianCBG, perhaps you should do what I had to do
02:04.03CBGhmm?
02:04.23Lukianform groups via whisper spam
02:04.45CBGyeah but PUGs often suck and take ages to form
02:04.47boman^Get welfare gear, join a kara/SSC/TK guild.
02:04.50boman^or something o:
02:06.02CBGwelfare gear?
02:06.16Lukianarena/pvp
02:06.21boman^ye
02:06.23boman^:)
02:06.29CBGbah
02:06.31Lukian4 wks of arena and you get free s4 gloves
02:06.36CBGnobody to do arena with
02:06.37Lukianeven if you do it naked and lose all games :p
02:06.46CBGand pvp gets boring pretty fast for me
02:06.51CBGlol...
02:07.23boman^CBG: Horde or alliance btw? :p
02:07.32CBGFOR THE HORDE!!
02:07.35CBG:P
02:07.40boman^And you played on outland?
02:07.46CBGYep, Outland EU
02:07.54CBGgood memory :)
02:08.02boman^Make a movie for my guild and get free sunwell-gear. \o/
02:08.15boman^If you're good at making movies, that is.
02:08.39CBGWhat kind of movie? Machinima?
02:08.48boman^http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=5275908252&sid=1
02:10.01CBGWell, I'm not experienced at it. Could give it a go I guess but doubt you'd be happy enough with the outcome to give me T6 stuffs.
02:10.17boman^Then gogo bg/arena. :p
02:10.48CBGNoooooo!
02:11.14CBGI am good enough to do SV if I can get 4 others of the same "level".
02:11.35CBGIncluding tank and healer of course, which is where PUGs fall down as finding those is a PITA.
02:11.54CBGWill I get anywhere starting my own guild? I'm prepared to try that if there is some hope.
02:13.50Lukian<PROTECTED>
02:13.52boman^Outland already got like a gazillion of guilds but uhm... You could always try, won't hurt I guess. :p
02:13.57Lukiandruid, warrior, shaman, etc
02:14.13Lukianreplace city with zones people idle in and are likely bored
02:14.24Lukianor levelling/gearing-up zones such as SMV and Netherstorm
02:14.30CBGLukian: I know how to get PUGs. A few days ago I messaged about 40 healers and 40 tanks. Nobody wanted to do SV or Bot.
02:14.39Lukianouch!
02:14.46CBGYeah :(
02:14.47Lukianyeah I have that issue sometimes
02:14.55Lukianbut you'd usually get two interested out of those batches
02:14.55boman^But seriously, there's gotta be people playing normal instances. Outland is a huge fucking server. o:
02:15.19CBGYou'd think that... :P Maybe I just log on at shitty times or something.
02:15.44boman^What class are you playing btw?
02:15.56CBGHunter (BM and part MM spec)
02:16.03Lukian41/20? :)
02:16.09CBGyeah
02:16.31Lukianat least you aren't a huntard, but yeah you'll have a tough time making instance groups as a dps class
02:16.58Lukianmy mains are tanks and my alts have issues finding tanks :/
02:17.08CBGI totally am a huntard :P
02:17.15Lukianthankfully I have two housemates that play
02:17.16CBGbut probably not the talents you're thinking. I get criticised all the time for having two points in Pathfinding
02:17.38Lukianlet's see :p
02:17.47CBGand various other "fucking stupid" things
02:18.05CBGhttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Outland&n=Manyk is me
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02:18.58Lukian3% more hit and 300 ap and you can do heroics
02:19.15CBGMy reasoning behind Pathfinding was that I got dragged into wow by a couple guys I had just met whn I started uni but it looked like we would be good friends and would know each other for 3 years so figued I would try out this ""wow" thing whatever it was...
02:19.29Lukianer, also a hunter is super easy to gear.. I was heroic ready in <2days played
02:19.33CBGall the way up to level 70 I've not had a clue what I am doing half the time
02:20.08CBGbut I soon realised that what I hated about wow was running across zones all the god damn time. so as soon as I found ways to help with that, I grabbed them. hence path finding.
02:21.30CBGsame goes for animal handler. just realised I only have 1/2 points in there. maybe I'll respec to get 2 :P
02:22.14CBGI was roughly aiming for 100 hit and 1400 ap for kara. dunno how accurate that is
02:23.51Lukian9%, cap it for raids
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02:23.56Lukianif you miss an MD = ouch
02:23.57Code03hola a todos
02:24.09CBG9% what?  MD?
02:24.35Lukian9% hit
02:24.38LukianMD = misdirect
02:24.54CBGhit rating? 9% of 49?
02:24.54Code03i want play WoW
02:25.04Lukianoh dear your build is terrible
02:25.09CBGyay
02:25.10Lukian9% is 142 hit rating iirc
02:25.17CBGah ok. thanks
02:25.33LukianI'll give you the BM build in a sec
02:25.47LukianI just hearthed out of kara with Attumen at 20%
02:25.56Lukiandps was too slow, two people were pulling aggro :/
02:26.00boman^:(
02:26.09LukianI didn't think the rest of the instance was going to go well
02:27.27Lukianhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=ctbMztxRwuVoVxbRV
02:27.39Lukianrapid killing could go into efficiency
02:28.00Lukianendurance training, imp revive pet, imp mend pet are up to you
02:28.06Lukianthe rest are essential dps talents
02:28.15Lukian4/5 frenzy is enough for 100% uptime
02:29.36LukianCBG, you'll also want to read up on "hunter shot rotations illustated" on EJ (elitistjerks forums) - google it
02:29.39CBGanything that helps party members has always been a low priority for me having leveled alone so much
02:30.08Lukianimp hunter's mark first and foremost helps your pet dps
02:30.18LukianFI also boosts YOUR dps by 3%, which is substantial ;)
02:30.41CBGfor 10 seconds. that's like a total extra 80 damage.
02:31.03CBGI'd rather be able to move 8% faster in between killing stuff :P
02:31.11Lukianit has about 100% uptime :p
02:31.18Lukianenchant minor speed on your boots..
02:31.34Lukianor get the minor speed metagem, both don't stack with that talent
02:36.58CBGmeh. the hunter shot rotations illustated stuff seems obvious
02:37.26Lukianreally?
02:37.34CBGI generally set hunters mark, send in the pet, serpent sting then just keep hitting steady shot till it's dead which is usually before the sting wears off.
02:37.42LukianI find hunters using aimed shot in their rotation all the time
02:37.54CBGnever use it in my rotation.
02:38.04Lukianyour steady is probably clipping some autos if you are spamming it.
02:38.15Lukianalso steady deals more damage than serpent sting
02:38.32CBGyes, yes it does. but serpent AND steady deal more than just steady
02:38.32Lukianthere's no point in using serpent sting unless you are killing a rogue and want a poison effect on them :p
02:38.39Lukianno they don't
02:38.47Lukianserpent sting uses a global cooldown
02:38.57CBG... yes it does. serpent steady does damage. no?
02:39.00Lukianwhich you could better use on an arcane shot, a multishot or a steady shot.
02:39.28CBGI use it as my starting shot and then spam steady
02:40.34CBGre aimed shot. I'll use it in a group scenario if mobs can heal. but never any other time
02:41.38Lukianyeah that's fine for aimed
02:41.45Lukian(and for use with misdirect)
02:42.18CBGdunno what misdirect is
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02:42.39Lukianyou have been a trainer right? :p
02:42.56CBGbeen TO one since 70?
02:43.05CBGprobably not. dont think I've left outland
02:43.25Lukianwell that explains it :)
02:43.31Gary13579why'd you guys trash my comment D:
02:43.33Gary13579bastards
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02:45.31Corgan;_;
02:45.33CorganTecnoBrat!
02:47.28LukianCBG, serpent sting: 682 damage (mob might be dead before it finishes): damage per mana: 3.1. Arcane shot: 729 damage (averaged crits in): DPM: 3.2. Multi-shot: 1334 damage: DPM: 4.8.
02:47.48Lukiansteady shot, 997 damage: DPM: 9.1
02:47.50TecnoBratyes?
02:47.54Corganilu
02:47.58Corganalso level 72 on beta
02:48.05CBGLukian: yeah?
02:48.13LukianCBG, so how is 682 damage higher than 997?
02:48.23CBGI did not say it was.
02:48.38CBGI said Serpent Sting + Steady Shots > just steady shots
02:48.53CBGnot that those figures correspond to my damage at all anyway.
02:49.19Lukianso you are saying serpent sting, which takes 1.5secs (due to the GCD) deals more damage than steady shot (which also takes 1.5seconds)
02:50.34CBGI'm saying, if I am hitting the mob with steady shot every 1.5 seconds, how am I doing LESS damage if a sting is also hitting it?
02:50.53Lukianbecause firing a steady shot instead of the serpent sting would deal more damage than the sting.
02:51.33CBGmy steady shot does something in the region of 350 damage while my sting does something like 1000 over time
02:51.53Lukianerm, I think you need to reread your tooltips
02:51.58Lukianand maybe get the Dr Damage addon
02:52.15CBGwhat tooltip?
02:52.24Lukianthe Steady Shot and Serpent sting ones :p
02:54.48CBGsteady shot: 358 + base weap dmg.
02:55.03CBGserpent sting 959 over 15 secs
02:57.01CBGbase weap damage seems to be about 40 according to my scrolling combat text mod that says my steady shots are doing about 390
02:57.03Lukiansteady shot can crit
02:57.23Lukianyour base weapon damage is about 140 looking at your pos weapon XD
02:57.55CBGyeah, you'd think that.
02:58.11CBGeven if it is 400. serpent sting still fucking kicks it's ass dps wise.
02:58.35Lukianyou are forgetting crit :p
02:59.04CBGand if steady is 500 as it should be (358+140) then serpent sting is not much worse DPM wise
02:59.12CBGscrew crits. they are random
02:59.21Lukianthey are averaged
02:59.28Lukianso they are viable for sustained dps
02:59.52CBGso say I fire 10 steady shots, how many on average will crit and on average, what will they crit for?
03:00.34CBGah just had one hit 700 there.
03:00.36CBGso assuming that doesnt include base weap dmg... 840. still less than the sting.
03:01.08Lukian2.37x (assuming crit meta gem and being mortal shots talented)
03:01.21Lukianyou will crit as much as your character pane says you will
03:02.03Lukianwhich should be about 20% as BM (someone else might want to confirm this) and 30% as marks or survival
03:02.52CBGmy crit chance is under 10% so I'll crit once in every 10 steady shots?
03:03.08Lukianyes, but you'll have 20% once you raid/run heroics a little
03:03.18CBGThat's an extra 300-400 damage. As opposed to serpent sting's 959?
03:03.33CBGso 600-800 as opposed to 959?
03:04.26Lukianserpent sting is 852 for me and I have double your attack power
03:04.30Lukianwhere are you getting 959 from?
03:04.42CBGThe tooltip.
03:05.24CBGI have 5/5 in improved stings.
03:05.42CBGMaybe you should consider the same to maximise dps? :P hehe
03:06.54Lukianhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=27016 1052+155 * 0.1 + 660 = 780 serpent sting
03:07.04Lukianoh ring, improved stings
03:07.12LukianCBG, your white damage can also crit.
03:07.26Lukianwhich makes mortal shots even more of an essential talent
03:07.29CBGwhat does that have to do with whether I should use the sting or not?
03:07.42CBGsadly... no points left to spend
03:07.58Lukianat your gear level, perhaps you should, but with mortal shots? you definitely shouldn't and you'd boost your DPS.
03:10.44CBG5/5 in mortal shots means I do an extra 60 (white) and 120 (steady shot) damage every 15 seconds.
03:11.23CBGNot much diffrent at all to the extra dps I get on serpent sting for 5/5 in Improved stings
03:11.25LukianI thought you said your steady hits for 300-400
03:11.55Lukianso that's 690-920
03:12.10Lukianwhich is an extra 390-520
03:12.57CBGthe crit on the steady I approximated to 400
03:13.03CBGan extra 30% of that is 120
03:14.14LukianYour white damage (raw) should be 225, so that's 450, or 534 mortal shots damage. (+84)
03:14.35LukianFurthermore, this is almost pointless, because Steady Shot is HEAVILY based on your weapon
03:14.49CBGmortal shots affects "critical strike damage"
03:14.51Lukianand you are using a PoS level 64 green, rather than buying a Valanos' off the AH.
03:15.28CBGPoS? I'll have you know I like that crossbow an awful lot thank you very much.
03:15.50Lukianhahahah
03:16.07CBGAnd no I don't plan to buy an upgrade on the AH when this whole discussion started when I expressed that I wanted to go to instances - to get a better ranged weapon.
03:16.11Lukian(I still have Megashot rifle in my bank)
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03:17.33LukianYes fair enough, there's some nice ranged weapons in 2 instances
03:17.53CBGI forget which but iirc SV or Bot had one I wanted
03:18.03Lukianbut doing two quests will give you the gold for a Valanos' and your DPS will be substantially better in instances, meaning that people might actually add you to friends for future runs.
03:18.40Lukiannot to mention it'll make questing easier
03:18.59CBGI'm saing all the gold I can atm. Epic Flying Mount ftw.
03:19.20CBGAnd as I pointed out, I am good enough to run SV if I can get 4 others the same
03:20.08CBGI was in a PUG for it recently where we failed because we didn't know we had to totally NUKE the tanks (and we were down to 4 for some attempts) but I was out dpsing everyone else there. even the rogues.
03:20.16Lukian0.5% of epic flying is the cost of a Valanos' :p
03:20.51CBGThat's a 0.5% i can't afford to spend then. :P
03:21.00Lukianyou were outdpsing everyone using a 64 weapon, boy, that says a lot for your dps
03:21.16Lukianyour repair bills from that run could have been averted from everyone havign slightly better gear
03:21.21Lukian+1% gold.
03:21.56CBGoh yeah. the repair bills sucked :(
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03:22.12Lukianchuckles
03:22.28LukianOk, so buying a Valanos' may well save you it's cost in repairs
03:22.31Lukianso go do it
03:22.53CBGhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=27794 can be mine if I get a better group...
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03:23.31Lukiana) do you have your flying mount b) how much gold do you have?
03:23.43CBGThough perhaps Valanos's is better..? bleh
03:24.08CBGa) yes. b) 300g atm but someone owes me 400 more if I can remember who
03:24.48Lukianthey are about the same, also, X-52 is a drop, on average it'll take you 5 runs, but you may never get it
03:25.21LukianI was asking about the gold because I actually saw a Don Santos' on the AH for 300g recently
03:25.32Lukianand that outdoes all kara weapons for BM.
03:25.43CBGI am prepared to do 5 runs.
03:25.54CBGI wanna just run every instance I can as much as possible.. :P
03:26.08CBGI'm really really tired of playing alone now.
03:26.14Lukianhaha, there's 3 don santos' on my ah atm
03:26.17Lukianone is 400g
03:26.18CBG70 levels of that was already too much.
03:26.46Lukianhmm that would suck :(
03:27.23CBGooh, that is nice...
03:27.57Lukianyeah, I resold one, profit ftw ;)
03:28.03LukianI don't know why people are listing them that cheap
03:28.17Lukianprobably because the 150 heroic badge xbow is better..
03:28.36Lukianbut that's the equivalent of 2,000g in heroic badges :/
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03:30.34CBGoh well. I suppose I will have a look at respeccing when I go to thunderbluff to train. may also have a peek on the AH while I'm there too...
03:30.37CBGfor now, better sleep. 4:30 am :o
03:30.39CBGcheers Lukian
03:30.45CBGand boman^ too
03:31.04Lukiancome back soon ^_^
03:36.38Lukian6/28 20:38:20.213  [Guild] Jehangir: Recount - Damage Done for Shade of Aran 20:35:33-20:37:33
03:36.38Lukian6/28 20:38:20.219  [Guild] Jehangir: 1. Jehangir  182764 (1645.3, 20.9%)
03:36.38Lukian6/28 20:38:20.225  [Guild] Jehangir: 2. Sunsilk  132023 (1265.3, 15.1%)
03:36.48Lukiangod I miss doing kara runs on my druid with my old guild :D
03:37.19Lukian(#1 is a ret paladin)
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05:12.31JunkHead-Work!
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05:24.50JunkHead-WorkAnyone around?
05:24.58Mori-nekoNope
05:25.27JunkHead-WorkLie!
05:25.37Cadwallionmmmm
05:26.01Cadwallionit has been a l0ong while since ive had dinner at 12:25am
05:36.59JunkHead-Workwhy so late?
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05:57.21CadwallionJunkHead-Work: massive code session
05:57.32CadwallionI don't intend on sleeping til tomorrow night sometimes
05:57.35Cadwallionsometime*
06:01.19JunkHead-Workjeez
06:02.13JunkHead-WorkQuestion.
06:02.29JunkHead-WorkFor anyone paying attention that is...
06:02.39JunkHead-WorkDraenei Hunter with Skinning/Leatherworking.
06:02.44JunkHead-WorkAldor or Scryer?
06:03.33kahdgarxiHonestly aldor/scryer doesn't manage much anymore
06:03.54kahdgarximost of the gear and recipes that you get are easily replacable with pvp or badge gear
06:04.11JunkHead-Worki meant more or less for recipes.
06:04.19JunkHead-WorkBut does that even matter for leatherworking?
06:04.53kahdgarxihttp://www.wowwiki.com/Comparison_of_Aldor_and_Scryer_rewards
06:05.15JunkHead-Worklooking at that now.
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06:11.56JunkHead-WorkI'm leaning towards aldor.
06:12.07JunkHead-Worka couple of nice items in there.
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08:11.00JunkHead-Workhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVGvhOHtae0
08:11.06JunkHead-Workwow needs this as a new dance
08:11.47kahdgarxiyes!
08:14.49JunkHead-WorkI'm watchign this now.
08:14.58JunkHead-WorkAnd I saw that dance and immediately thought of WoW.
08:15.04kahdgarxilol
08:15.06JunkHead-WorkAnd sure enough youtube had a video of it.:P
08:20.45ZiconWoop.
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09:51.49Lukianso I've been drafted as an offtank for Mother
09:52.10Lukianas a bear, what gear should I wear, Sabar lash doesn't look like it hits for more
09:52.27JunkHead-Workwear your happy suit
09:52.37JunkHead-WorkYou must be happy to tank!
09:52.41JunkHead-Workhappy bear!
09:53.02Lukianwondering if I should wear my cat gear for dps in bear form?
09:53.24JunkHead-Workbut i thot cat is 4 fyte?
09:53.32JunkHead-Workbare si 4 tnak
09:58.19LukianClose-in Setup
09:58.20LukianWhen the whole raid clusters very close to her ("under her skirt"), nobody can be hit by the beams. The problem is that if only one person does not stand close enough, a wipe is highly probable.
10:01.16Lukianit's ok if she parries yeah?
10:02.20JunkHead-Worknever did that fight. no clue.
10:18.05Lukianwow good guild
10:18.09LukianMother died in 5mins
10:18.17JunkHead-Worksweet
10:20.18Ziconjunkhead-work: Fuck. I had to read those two lines in moron five times before I managed to parse what the hell they were supposed to say.
10:20.51JunkHead-Work:P
10:21.16ZiconDon't break my head, dammit!
10:21.29JunkHead-Worksowwy.:(
10:21.30Ziconlukian: Butbut, Mother doesn't wear a skirt, just a thong...
10:21.37ZiconOh wait
10:21.42ZiconShe DOES wear a skirt, doesn't she?
10:21.50Ziconscratches head.
10:21.59JunkHead-WorkMother doesn't wear the skirt...
10:22.06JunkHead-WorkMother sports the skirt.
10:22.27ZiconIt's all the other six-armed women who uses their ass for distraction. *nod*
10:23.08Lukiangiggles
10:23.18ZiconFunny moments caused by raid leader using voice activation on TeamSpeak, #77: "DAMN, that is one tight ass!"
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10:31.27Lukianlicks Zicon
10:31.44ZiconDon't make promises you can't keep.
10:35.23JuippisZicon: yea... you know how rogues do it from behind? Rogues @ Mother often tend to play using one hand. I wonder why..
11:01.25Lukianhyjal now :D
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11:06.27Lukiannice, 1150 dps on Rage
11:06.32JunkHead-WorkI haven't raided in so long.
11:06.49g0urrahttp://ja.wow.wikia.com/wiki/Attack_Speed all hail the japanese wowwiki
11:08.06Lukianhmm pity I'm out of agility scrools
11:08.57JunkHead-WorkI have a whole crapload of scrolls in my bank.
11:09.00JunkHead-Workall kinds.
11:09.14Lukianyou are rich!
11:09.24JunkHead-WorkHow you figure?
11:09.36Lukianwell you can sell agi scrolls for like 10-15g ea :/
11:09.46JunkHead-Workreally?
11:09.59JunkHead-WorkI probably have 20 or so of each lvl V scroll
11:10.09Lukianas I said, you are rich :(
11:10.19JunkHead-WorkHad no idea they sold well
11:10.55Lukianonly way to max your dps raiding XD
11:11.27JunkHead-WorkI pee on your raid DPS.
11:11.37JunkHead-WorkJust kidding. I don't really pee on it.
11:11.38JunkHead-Work:D
11:12.19Lukianyou probably do :p
11:12.27LukianI only beat 1 hunter
11:12.39JunkHead-WorkI got my hunter to lvl 39 yesterday.
11:13.17JunkHead-WorkI want to level her leatherworking up.
11:13.22JunkHead-WorkBut I can't because I'm poor.
11:13.45Lukianaww :(
11:13.50Lukianleather used to be cheap XD
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11:14.05JunkHead-WorkI'm up to thick leather now.
11:34.14LukianKaz'rogal's Hardened Heart is freaky
11:34.34JunkHead-WorkI want it.
11:41.43Lukianhaha
11:41.51Lukian"I like raiding in my bed"
11:42.04Lukianvent quotes are the best XD
11:44.47ZiconI like raiding my bed, especially when there are cute boys in it.
11:46.52Lukianboys, eh? ;)
11:47.19ZiconYeah?
11:48.16Lukian2man raiding? :P~
11:50.29ZiconHaha
11:51.00ZiconAnything wrong with that? ;)
11:51.10Lukiannot at all ^_^
12:07.33Lukianaww mother didn't drop her boots
12:07.39LukianI neeeds them
12:10.37g0urraI thought you wanted her pants
12:10.57CBGboman^: Figured I'd give the movie making thing a try... Problem is that WoW droops down from 30fps to 2fps when I start recording. :|
12:10.57LukianI want Zicon's pants
12:11.02CBGhey Lukian
12:11.10Lukianhey again CBG :D
12:15.13JunkHead-Workugh I don't wanna do dailies today.
12:17.33Lukiancat caught a mouse and bought it inside ><
12:25.15robotuschThat's rich
12:25.38robotusch39 speckled tastyfish & the last one out of the pool is a firefin snapper :<
12:26.25robotuschand 2 mins later the winner is announced while I'm racing around trying to find a last pool ;(
12:27.53Lukianrobotusch, yeah last time I tried i had 38 :(
12:27.57JunkHead-WorkI never did that.
12:28.35robotuschand ofc the winner is the same guy as the last two weeks by the looks of it :/
12:28.44robotuschon a 3½ weeks old realm no less, that's rich
12:29.45Ziconlukian: You'd have to grab them off the floor. :p
12:29.55JunkHead-WorkWhy do people do that fishing tournament anyway?
12:30.02JunkHead-WorkI mean, it seems popular.
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12:30.58ZiconIt's fun, and you get phat phishing lewts.
12:32.42JunkHead-Workwhat are the prizes?
12:32.47JunkHead-Workhow would I find that on wowheaD?
12:32.50Lukianbest stam gear for 19 twinks
12:38.40LukianKaz'rogal dead in 3mins 20secs, zero deaths
12:49.17Lukianlmao
12:49.27Lukian"Not another hunter whose parents pull the plug"
12:49.44Lukian(hunter offline at 10:30pm)
12:51.11LukianHAHA
12:51.22LukianThis guild is +3 ranks on us progress wise (on our faction)
12:51.29Lukianand they couldn't even get Naj down tonight
13:06.34Lukianlol on vent: "Tanks pick up a negro each"
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13:23.05TarjinDoes anyone know if there's a /script for accepting quest?
13:24.15LukianSickOfClickingDailies
13:24.21Lukianand various other quest accepting addons
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13:32.38Lukian220 badges on my pally 202 on my druid
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14:04.44LukianI hope inscriptions can write scolls
14:04.48LukianI'm sick of paying for them :p
14:04.54Lukianscrolls*
14:05.34LukianI have 8k gold in heroic badges across my characters :/
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14:14.26Juippis15:49   Lukian "Not another hunter whose parents pull the plug"
14:14.26Juippis15:49   Lukian (hunter offline at 10:30pm)
14:14.27Juippis:-D
14:14.29Juippiscruel
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15:19.11Lukianhttp://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=32501 + Battlemaster's stack?
15:22.42g0urraWell duh
15:23.14Lukianwell, It's possible wowhead doesn't say because no one has tried
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15:31.19JuippisLukian: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32501#comments
15:31.26JuippisLukian: you can use both at the same time
15:31.34Lukianhmm interesting
15:31.41Juippishttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=32501#comments:id=234391
15:31.42LukianI dunno if I can spare the slot for pvp though
15:31.50Juippiseh, sure
15:31.56Juippisoh well
15:32.04LukianShard of Contempt cuts through dodge/parry nicely
15:32.12LukianInsignia/Medallion in other slot :/
15:32.37Juippisyes
15:32.38Juippisbut that gives extra HP for 20 seconds :-)
15:32.47Juippiswhile the battlemaster give only for 15
15:33.02Juippisbut... that's the same as nothing imo as that trinket should be used as a last resort
15:33.03bindiiit should say "Shared cooldown" :>
15:33.16Juippisin 15 seconds your game has already been decided
15:33.23Lukianindeed
15:34.21Lukianbut like.. the only thing I can spend these badges on is gems :/
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15:41.37Juippistake them, sell them
15:41.40Juippisprofit
15:41.51Lukianmeh
15:41.57Lukianprobably will soon enough
15:42.21LukianI could buy a new chest, but I'd rather S4 chest
15:49.08Lukianlmao http://ace.pastey.net/93027-v2cb
15:49.41Juippisbefore reading further, I must say, the warlock t5 shoulders are best-looking shoulders in the game
15:49.45Juippisnow I continue
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15:53.26JuippisLukian: he's a pvp freak, why not buy merciless with honor?
15:53.31Juippisthey look same
15:54.32Lukianhmm good question
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15:58.48JunkHead-lukian
15:58.55JunkHead-hunter with leatherworking?
15:59.00JunkHead-specialization?
15:59.04Lukiandragonscale
15:59.07Lukian= mail
15:59.12JunkHead-ok.
15:59.25Lukianwhat's your other prof, skinning?
15:59.28JunkHead-yeah
15:59.45LukianI'd recommend engineering for fun, but skinning is brilliant for LW mats/profit
15:59.55JunkHead-yeah.
15:59.59JunkHead-i already have an angy
16:00.01JunkHead-engy
16:00.08JunkHead-I don't wanna do that shit again.:\
16:00.20JunkHead-but dragonscale is best for hunter you say
16:00.21JunkHead-?
16:00.53Lukiandragonscale = mail specialisation
16:01.01[dRaCo]the epic lvl 70 set is great
16:01.03Lukianthe other two? are leather specs
16:01.09JunkHead-ah i gotcha.
16:01.20[dRaCo]not as good as the stuff for clothies, but still.
16:01.58Lukiani've been impressed with a few of the lw items for hunters
16:02.10Lukianfor feral druids I've been rather disappointed in BC
16:02.12[dRaCo]dunno about the SW stuff
16:02.23Lukianthat might change when I get a Carapace recipe :p
16:02.42Lukianso, how much should I pay someone to carry me to 1.6k PR? :p
16:02.43[dRaCo]the ssc belt and the bracers from mh/bt are great, but boe
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16:03.31dennics
16:03.50JunkHead-i'm a long way from that stuff.
16:03.54JunkHead-i'm only lvl 39
16:04.39Lukianso we are going to attempt to down Illidari council tomorrow
16:04.52[dRaCo]if it's just about maxing your char, I'd go with engineering, the truestrike goggles are just awesome
16:05.02Lukianhe has a point there XD
16:05.08Lukianthose helms are ownage
16:05.15[dRaCo]Lukian: bring 3 mages and 2 rouges, makes stuff a lot easier
16:05.32Lukian[dRaCo], ya i'm sure group will be balanced decently :/
16:05.46Lukian(wtb BF or any dps warrior, though)
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16:05.54LukianI have no battleshout :(
16:06.28[dRaCo]the fight isn't about dps, doesn't matter
16:06.42[dRaCo]once you got the idea, it's all about not being stupid ;)
16:07.13Lukianhehe
16:07.25Lukianwell they/we should be right
16:08.48Lukianthey have vashj and kael down XD
16:09.03[dRaCo]\o/
16:09.12Lukianunlike a number of guilds lower in progress XD
16:09.21Lukianpeople seem to be skipping it
16:09.50Lukianand getting 4-5/9 in BT
16:10.20Lukiananyway shower and bed time, i should be up at 9am :/
16:10.29[dRaCo]yeah, but most guilds that couldn't kill vashj/kael can't kill RoS, either
16:11.11Lukianchuckles
16:11.13Lukiangood point
16:11.31Lukianwe only have issues if people lag/framedrop on the important spells :(
16:12.05[dRaCo]guess that's what illidan meant when he said "you're not prepared" :D
16:22.08JunkHead-[11:04:48] <[dRaCo]> if it's just about maxing your char, I'd go with engineering, the truestrike goggles are just awesome  <-- it's not. I just want this to be a fun all-around good character.
16:22.21JunkHead-decent dps, good enough for a raid slot. good at making money and such.
16:22.25JunkHead-Nothing phenominal.
16:24.37[dRaCo]then LW is fine
16:25.12JunkHead-i figure between killing clefthoofs, and cooking the meat and makign leather from the skinning I should do fair making money
16:25.23JunkHead-I'm also considering fishing but I don't know yet.
16:25.37[dRaCo]yeah, definitly... selling armor kits is good money, too
16:25.41JunkHead-yeah
16:25.47JunkHead-I already have 225 cooking too.
16:25.55JunkHead-so the one character will be able to do both
16:26.42JunkHead-i need to strart doing more run-throughs.
16:26.48JunkHead-my gear is kinda poop.:(
16:37.59LukianJunkHead-, cobra scales sell for something ridiculous each
16:38.11Lukianleather's pretty sweet too
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16:42.51GroggeNHello
16:43.04GroggeNcan admin help me to install
16:43.10GroggeNsry bad eng
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16:43.23Lukianerm, it's not hard :p
16:43.57g0urraIf you're looking for help to install a private server, the only help you're going to get is to get out of here.
16:44.12GroggeNno server
16:44.15GroggeNHp
16:44.40g0urraHp?
16:44.49Lukiang0urra, I assumed we was trying to install the wowhead client..
16:44.52Lukianhe*
16:44.58g0urranoes
16:45.10g0urraOh wait, that's what people come into #wowwiki for
16:45.15GroggeNlook http://playsound.se/OBProgressers and this tema itemstats_wowhead
16:45.17g0urrahides in the shadows
16:45.52Lukiang0urra, haha, they do?
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16:46.19g0urraWhen someone asks about how to install something, usually yes
16:46.22LukianGroggeN, that's not an official wowhead project.. so I recommend asking the OBP developers.
16:46.43Lukianunless you are trying to install wowhead powered
16:46.52Lukianin which case, there's several forum threads to help you
16:47.06Lukianoh he left
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17:06.23robotuschhow nice, downloading a FLV grabber & get a trojan warning ;(
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17:22.49robotuschhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=7969#comments:id=342175 I like that he had tested that it wouldn't stack with Animal Handler & then linked to said talent's spell description where the exact same thing is said
17:55.16Juippisrobotusch: :-)
17:55.27Juippisrobotusch: why go easy way when you could do things complicated?
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19:08.14SatonenHi
19:08.47SatonenWhat build should I use in hc or is pvp build enough? im resto druid
19:11.46[dRaCo]hc? there is no hardcore WoW
19:12.39Satonenheroic
19:12.40Satonen:D
19:13.07[dRaCo]you shouldnt take any damage in an instance
19:13.12[dRaCo]as resto
19:13.25[dRaCo]so a normal resto spec should be fine
19:13.36[dRaCo]even better than pvp since your healing is better
19:13.49Satonennormal resto sepc? 0 0 61? :D
19:13.55[dRaCo]yeah
19:14.01Satonenok =)
19:14.05SatonenI have 1080 only + healing lol
19:14.29[dRaCo]oh.
19:14.40[dRaCo]that's kinda...
19:14.42[dRaCo]not much
19:14.44Satonenyea
19:15.07Satonenis that enough for heroic slave pens or underbog
19:15.21[dRaCo]if you've got a good tank, prolly yeah
19:15.33Satonen:D
19:16.24[dRaCo]one more reason for a "real" resto spec, though
19:16.30Satonenyeah :D
19:22.52Satonencan u link the real resto spec+ :D
19:24.10[dRaCo]gimme a moment
19:25.19Satonenhttp://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZZxEsteqrest ?  http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZZxEIteqMest`?
19:26.23[dRaCo]both fine
19:26.31[dRaCo]http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZZxVcxcq0est <-- those are pretty much the basics
19:28.42Satonenno healing touch?
19:28.52Satonenahh
19:28.59Satonennot all points spended :)
19:30.19[dRaCo]you cant cast healing touch as tree anyway
19:31.18[dRaCo]but yeah, you might as well spend those leftover points there
19:31.26Satonenahh yes =)
19:31.53Satonenthanks for help!
19:32.13[dRaCo]you're welcome
19:33.00Satonen#wowhead never betrays me :D
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