IRC log for #wowhead on 20091213

00:04.47robotuschAny creative suggestions as to what epic gem recipe to get? :3
00:05.12*** join/#wowhead JunkHead-Work (n=p00@static-74-42-250-50.dr01.atmr.al.frontiernet.net)
00:06.19ecshave you already got the ones that benefit you the most?
00:06.26JunkHead-WorkHAI GUSY!
00:06.34JunkHead-WorkWU TU DOIN!?!?!!111
00:06.34robotuschyeah
00:06.50ecshmm
00:09.58Primarhttp://i.imgur.com/exWpG.jpg
00:10.08Primar-WOOW-
00:13.33SinespeI approve, Primar.
00:14.44Primarhttp://www.theonion.com/content/news/everyone_in_dream_smells_smoke
00:15.29SinespeOh COME ON. I'M SAVED TO OCULUS. AOIHIOUGEIOUGFWD
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00:20.30robotuschtugs on Sangkeun Kim
00:22.06Stormscapeyou know what
00:22.08Stormscapefuck Blizzard
00:22.15Stormscapemy levitate hasn't worked properly in like a year
00:22.27Stormscapewhat part of "I want to walk on the water not swim" does the spell not understand
00:22.39Herrickmine works fine
00:22.45JunkHead-WorkMaybe you should eat less.
00:22.53Herricksometimes I need to jump to the surface but that's it
00:24.14Herrickthat's a bit of an emoish exit message
00:24.29Primarmaybe you neeed to suck less at levitating
00:24.36Primarjump to surface, cast spell.
00:24.49Primardon't run down like a tard
00:24.55Primarit's not hard.
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00:29.36Herrickhe's already gone
00:30.30HerrickI want to be able to levitate while mounted so I can pull off super longjumps like mages can with the extra speed
00:31.03Djane:)
00:31.13Mowseyyou can
00:31.21DjaneYou can't -quite- jump from temple of storms to ulduar raid entrance :(
00:31.23Mowseyjust dismount at the height of the jump and levitate
00:31.30Djane^
00:32.07Herrickoh yeah
00:32.21Herricksince the skill auto dismounts you anyway
00:32.50HerrickI love slowfall mechanics
00:32.54Joltmmm yeah my spotify playlist is awesome
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00:34.32ArkaenJOLT
00:34.34ArkaenENVY
00:34.36ArkaenKILL
00:34.41ArkaenMy level 1 pally has shoulders
00:34.43Arkaen:D
00:34.51Joltlol
00:34.57JoltArkaen: What kind of pally?
00:35.00JoltHuman i hope!
00:35.04Joltand a female!
00:35.15ArkaenBelf female
00:35.18ArkaenCause I'm a Hordie
00:35.20Arkaen:D
00:35.21JoltXD
00:35.28Joltatleast it's a female belf
00:35.30Joltbelf male = eww!
00:35.40ArkaenMale models in WoW are generally inferior
00:35.45ArkaenExcept Trolls, and Forsaken.
00:36.00ArkaenAnd Dwarves
00:36.07ArkaenMaybe Orcs too
00:36.16Jolt^^
00:36.21Joltmm dwarves
00:37.09ArkaenThere are some that do not believe in the Legendary Night Elf Mohawks.
00:37.11ArkaenI pity the fools.
00:37.29Joltlol
00:37.37ArkaenHmm. While I'm getting the shoulders, I'll go buy some sacks
00:38.43Joltsacks are nice
00:38.45Joltkeke
00:40.47Arkaennew fight points at The Bulwark(Horde) and Thondroril River(Both)  WHAT
00:40.49Arkaenwhen
00:40.50Arkaeno.o
00:40.55ArkaenAlso, where is the latter?
00:40.57Arkaen:D
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00:45.56Jolti need more shoes
00:45.57Jolt-_-
00:46.26JoltArkaen: No idea
00:50.48JunkHead-WorkArkaen
00:50.52JunkHead-Workeast side of WPL
00:51.13ArkaenOh man
00:51.15Arkaenthat's hot
00:53.41Gunrunanyone here leveled a priest?
00:53.50ArkaenOh man
00:53.53Arkaen10.06% crit
00:53.58Arkaen28 AP
00:54.01Arkaen219 armor
00:54.04ArkaenLevel 2 :D
00:54.11Gunrunthats quite a twink
00:54.23ArkaenYep
00:54.28Gunrunactually no 10% crit is what heirloom gear will give you
00:54.32Gunrundepending on class
00:54.41ArkaenI have the shoulders
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01:06.21LimberoSky2042_afk: what are the odds? a guy in my guild is called Izno
01:08.30stuflol izno sounds familiar
01:09.12stufif we're talking about izno, aka iznougoud
01:10.22stufand is finnish
01:12.11Limberoizno aka skyfire
01:12.37Limberoare blizzard fucken kidding me? no BoA honored enchants from sons of hodir?
01:12.39LimberoQQ
01:13.50Arkaen_?????????
01:16.10Starkieo.O
01:16.14Starkieget to exalted lazy
01:16.46Arkaen_Starkie
01:16.49Arkaen_You never talk here anymore
01:16.50Arkaen_:O
01:17.19StarkieI've been super busy with school
01:17.29Starkieim graduating on Friday
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01:20.00ArkaenHoly piss
01:20.02ArkaenCongrats
01:22.36stufis there an achievement involved?
01:32.38Gary13579Raw Question:   Is  it  possible  to  grow  boobs  on  a  tree?
01:33.05ArkaenGary13579: If so, I'm growing that tree
01:33.35MowseyIf you want boobs so bad, take a bunch of estrogen for a while
01:33.35Mowsey:D
01:33.58starspunWooden boobs don't sound much fun anyone. They won't be soft. :(
01:34.02starspunanyone/anyway
01:34.27starspunOh wait. Brainfail.
01:34.29starspun:<
01:35.47starspunYour skill in Making Yourself Look Like An Idiot has increased by 1 point.
01:38.10Inc`Mmm boobs
01:40.31GunrunLimbero surely you have about 500 emblems of triumph
01:40.38Gunrunjust convert some to the hodir rep tokens
01:41.10Gunruntada you now have access to the exalted ones which are boa
01:41.42JunkHead-WorkOne day I need to actually work on emblems.
01:41.51JunkHead-WorkI got on this morning, and did one heroic.
01:42.50Gary13579Raw Question:   what  canada
01:42.59Gary13579I think 'what' pretty much describes everyones reaction to Canada.
01:43.07Gunrunraw answer: oh canada?
01:47.31Primarcanada, eh?
01:47.56starspunblame canada
01:52.17DjaneColour me fail
01:52.22DjaneFell off the gunship whilst on guns
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01:53.10cruorsecurisHi.
01:54.42SinespeGood job Djane
01:54.48DjaneEpic fail/
01:54.55SinespeI hear I have gunship experience
01:57.37robotusch:DDDDD:D:D:D:DDD:D:D:DD:D:DD:DDD
01:57.48robotuschYou recieve loot: [Ravasaur Hatchling].
01:58.08cruorsecurisI think I'm going to be sick.
01:58.08cruorsecurishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx2MutERBC8
01:58.09JoltYou ninja loot: [Ravasaur Hatching] From: robotusch
01:58.09Djanealso, we appear to of crashed the gunship into the sky.
01:58.12Jolt!
01:58.13JoltMine!
01:58.18robotuschstabs Jolt with a spork
01:58.21Jolt:(
01:58.25Joltsporks aint for stabbing
01:58.27Joltuse a real knife
01:58.28Joltman!
01:59.08DjaneSinespe, gunship's glitched
01:59.16Sinespeglitched?
01:59.18DjaneLootmaster can't get onto it and everyone else is going to have to die
01:59.19DjaneYeah.
01:59.25SinespeHah
01:59.29DjaneStuck in midair with saurfang at the next stage.
01:59.37DjaneFortunately managed to pass lootmaster and get the gear.
01:59.47robotusch:D
02:00.02robotuschOur gunship stuck in midair after the battle
02:00.12SinespeOurs was fine. o/
02:00.14robotuschfortunately you can jump to the ramparts below and use the teleporter
02:00.27robotusch.. unfortunately I landed on the side that we hadn't cleared
02:00.36robotusch>:|
02:00.51cruorsecurisAnd suddenly the whole raid is in combat going "Why?"
02:00.55cruorsecurisSplat splat splat.
02:01.30robotuschYou've collected 108 of 123 pets — An impressive collection! :/
02:01.52SinespeCrazy robo
02:02.49Joltrobotusch: too bad they aint real!
02:04.21cruorsecurislol Jolt
02:04.36cruorsecurisThe most brutal argument for any person who enjoys achievements on WoW.
02:05.05cruorsecuris"I have the red proto-drake from doing all the Heroic hardmodes." "Too bad it isn't real."
02:05.25Jolt;)
02:05.30Arkaen@armory us rexxar aloja
02:05.31[Wheaties]Aloja's Wowhead Profile: http://tinyurl.com/ma9x7m - WowArmory Profile: http://tinyurl.com/q2ujh6
02:05.58Joltoh lord my eyes!
02:06.00ArkaenAlso cruorsecuris: If you need something to be real to get enjoyment out of a game, GTFO
02:06.00Jolta naked undead
02:06.14cruorsecurisI'm an avid Achievement collector.
02:06.18ArkaenOH HEY GUYS, I JUST GOT GEAR AND THIS ACHIEVEMENT
02:06.25JoltArkaen: Domo arigato mr.roboto!
02:06.27Arkaen"Too bad it isn't rea-"
02:06.33Arkaen"You know what, you little dipshit?"
02:06.37Arkaen~rape little dipshit
02:06.37infobotACTION takes little dipshit behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams
02:06.37cruorsecuris:|
02:06.51cruorsecurisOnly a few grunts? Quick shot, eh?
02:07.02Arkaenso it seems
02:07.19cruorsecurisPoor infobot.
02:07.25ArkaenBut yeah
02:07.35ArkaenShould I upgrade my Ring or Shouldert
02:08.05cruorsecurisAll that gear is bad, I don't know.
02:08.20cruorsecurisWhat are you going to be replacing it with? Triumphs?
02:08.48Arkaencruorsecuris: Thanks for pointing out the obvious
02:08.53Arkaencruorsecuris: Also, obviously
02:09.06cruorsecurisEither, you'll be rolling in badges soon enough.
02:09.13Djaneshoulders
02:09.14cruorsecurisI'd say build a setbonus, so go with the shoulders.
02:09.34JunkHead-WorkI think I might buy t9 ele helm.
02:11.41fewynfuck
02:11.45fewynwhy did it have to be occulus
02:12.00cruorsecurisYou mean, why did it have to be "Fun-cculus"
02:12.05Joltlol occulus¨
02:12.08Jolti hate occulus
02:12.40cruorsecurisYou mean, you LOVE "Fun-cculus"
02:12.43fewynleaves group
02:12.53cruorsecuris:|
02:13.02JoltOcculus sucks so much.
02:13.10Joltit sucks even more then me trying to do dinner
02:14.02cruorsecuris:| Sigh, waiting for TF2 blog to update and doing my Short Story final, :|
02:15.08SinespeFunkulus
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02:15.53JoltFuckingsuckingboringcculus
02:16.32SinespeI'll stick with funkulus
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02:17.36cruorsecurisHey. Fun-cculous.
02:17.47JunkHead-WorkLOLOLOL MOER LIEK COCKULUS AM I RITE?!?!!?
02:17.55JunkHead-Work...
02:17.59JoltJunkHead-Work: Why do you read my mind, you fsck!
02:17.59JunkHead-Work:\
02:18.10PrimarI wonder if Herts > MK is commutable, realistically.
02:18.14JunkHead-WorkMutant power.
02:18.22JunkHead-WorkI can detect when others are thinking about cock.
02:18.33JunkHead-Workhppens a lot in this channel...
02:18.38Primarsurely Mowsey is therefore your kryptonite
02:19.01JunkHead-Worknot really.
02:19.08JunkHead-Workthinking about penis counts also.
02:19.23cruorsecurisYou can't detect when other people are thinking of penis. You are thinking of other penises. ALL THE TIME.
02:19.28SinespePrimar: how far away are they from each other?
02:19.34Primarabout an hourish.
02:19.40Primarthat's a technical term.
02:19.42SinespeMight be a bit brutal, then
02:19.56Primarpossibly easier than trying to find a forensicky job next year.
02:20.06SinespeIs forensicky also a technical term?
02:20.09Primaror I could just move back to MK, but I'd rather not
02:20.21Primarit's one of the first things you learn on my course.
02:20.37SinespeYou should move to Cambridge
02:20.41Primaryou walk onto a crime scene, don your sunglasses, then declare it to be "a bit forensicky"
02:20.49SinespeSince that's where I'll be sometime after the new year
02:20.56PrimarThe Who then inexplicably starts playing
02:21.04cruorsecurisI use dollar bills to mark pages.
02:21.05SinespeYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
02:21.09Primaroh, you got a place now then?
02:21.14Primar*job
02:21.18SinespeAlas, no
02:21.19Primaror just moving to Cambridge?
02:21.21Primarah
02:21.31JoltPrimar: rofl!
02:21.36SinespeBut unless I do find one in Norwich, my dad's moving sometime in the new year, so ...
02:21.43Primaryeah.
02:21.49JoltPrimar: bad joke XD
02:22.01Primarcompanies make it bastard hard to find IT vacancies.
02:22.16Primarcouncils, banks, supermarkets etc
02:22.28Primarshitloads of detail on all the standard careers they have
02:22.40Primarbut practically nothing on IT ops stuff.
02:22.43SinespeYou should just walk into an office
02:22.47SinespeLook around
02:22.48Primarpossibly they contract it all out, I dunno.
02:22.52SinespeSpot something that needs fixing
02:22.55SinespeTell them it needs fixin
02:23.01SinespeAsk if they need an IT specialist
02:23.02SinespeDone
02:23.23Primaroh, it was amusing the other day, for our SQL module, someone asked if we could access the server from home
02:23.39Primarwe could, so I said to my mate that that was a bit insecure
02:23.52Primarday later we get an email saying someone's compromised it and 4 other servers
02:23.56SinespeHaha
02:23.56PrimarI felt smug.
02:24.01SinespeYes
02:24.03Sinespe"Someone"
02:24.26Gary13579Raw Question:   What  should  I  do  if  my  rooster  crows  at  night  and  my  neighbors  complain?
02:24.35Gary13579play with your cock so it stops
02:24.35Gary13579clearly
02:24.39cruorsecuris:|
02:24.51SinespePrimar: So now it's in ...
02:24.54Sinespe*sunglasses*
02:24.55SinespeLockdown
02:25.01Primaroh dear
02:25.02JoltGary13579: more like: Don't be a redneck.
02:25.07Sinespe:]
02:25.50Primaridk why we're even doing xsql and stuff, we'd never use it in a forensic role
02:26.25Primarit's 2:30 in the morning and I am grumpy because I have far too much work, my course is pointless, I'm £24k in debt, and I won't get a forensic job when I graduate anyway
02:26.41SinespeD:
02:26.50Primaruh, *probably won't
02:27.03SinespeI would say join me in getting drunk
02:27.06SinespeBut I'm not getting drunk
02:27.10Primarheh.
02:27.39Primaras soon as I get home it will be a case of going to the pub and staying there until I am paraletic.
02:27.49Sinespe\o/
02:28.08BlackNetfucking murlocs.
02:28.19BlackNetthey poly'd me into a murloc
02:28.26PrimarI wouldn't, they have surprisingly toothy orificies
02:28.28JoltPrimar: do you go to the pub alone :o?
02:28.33Primar*orifices
02:28.50PrimarJolt -- no, I'm not quite that sad a sack of meat, yet.
02:29.14PrimarI'm not even sure if that sentence makes sense to me
02:29.30Joltlol
02:29.58SinespeIt made sense to me
02:30.14JoltYay new cops episode
02:30.16Joltbrb
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02:31.15Primarhow's Noxy anyway, you popped over to see her yet?
02:32.59SinespeMeh, no, she said she probaably doesn't have time to meet up
02:33.09Primarah, right.
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02:34.36ArkaenPrimar: Your mentioning of Toothy Orifices made me think of the movie Teeth
02:34.43Primarvagina dentata.
02:34.51Sinespefacepalms
02:34.52Primarhttp://i.imgur.com/VibUT.jpg
02:34.56Primarpicture not related.
02:35.15Arkaenaww
02:35.16SinespeCurse it. I want a cup of tea
02:35.18Arkaenlol
02:35.23SinespeBut if I get a cup of tea, I will want a mince pie
02:35.25SinespeAnd we are out of mince pies
02:36.42Primarchristmas sucks as well
02:36.55PrimarI'll go home and live at my parents house for 3 weeks which is cold and falling apart
02:37.05Primarthey don't have a tumble drier so I'll have to actually plan washing
02:37.09Primarthere's never any food.
02:37.23Primarit's impossible to quietly go out for a smoke at 3 in the morning.
02:37.47PrimarI'll wake up, spend all day working on pointless academic work that has no relation to anything in real life, then go to the pub and spend all my money on alcohol
02:38.14Primarbefore sending inappropriate texts to my ex, then collapsing in a alcoholic stupor on my bed
02:38.21Primarthen repeat the whole cycle for 3 weeks
02:38.26SinespeFun times.
02:38.40PrimarI spent lots of money on awesome and carefully thought out presents for people
02:38.44Primarin return, I will recieve a sock
02:38.51SinespeNot a pair, just one.
02:38.52Primarthis sock may or may not be used
02:39.15Primarthis sock may or may not have been removed immediately prior to receipt
02:39.21SinespeWould it be inappropriate for me at this point to say "Bloodeh luxureh"
02:39.29PrimarGARLIC BREAD JIMMEH
02:40.04Primaroh yeah, most of my friends will constantly bitch about each other behind their backs, then act perfectly friendly when they show up
02:40.04SinespeI should sleep
02:40.13SinespeBut instead I think I am going to get tea.
02:40.18SinespeHooray, caffeine
02:40.34Primaror complain that "we only ever go to the same old pub"
02:41.22Primarthen complain if I try to drag them out anywhere else, for various reasons of it being "too loud", "too expensive", "I don't like music/dancing", "I don't like going out", "I'm a boring person"
02:41.59Primardon't even get me started on weapon skill
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02:48.35Sinespehey Primar, Dark Legacy Comics did something about weapon skill recently.
02:48.49SinespeYou should totally tell us your thoughts on it.
02:49.06Sinespe( http://www.darklegacycomics.com/217.html )
02:50.06Gary13579Sinespe, I believe it is fair and justified
02:50.43Gary13579sorry
02:50.48PrimarrSinespe, I believe it is fair and justified
02:52.16Primarhttp://i.imgur.com/iNAhg.png
02:52.38Primarmaybe that should've been Balls.
02:52.40Primaroh well
02:54.36SinespeI approve, Primar
02:56.53SinespeToast is not an appropriate substitute for mince pies :(
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02:57.16DjaneBollocks is it not.
02:57.32Gary13579giggles.
02:57.33DjaneToast is an appropriate substitute for mince pies, dinner, blood transfusions
02:57.33SinespeAlso, Primar should totally change his name to Primarr, given that he is a pirate.
02:57.34Gary13579bollocks
02:57.47Sinespemince pies > toast
02:57.52Gary13579Sinespe, I thought that as I was typing it
02:58.38Primarhttp://i.imgur.com/JvgEG.png
02:58.45Primarthis would also have been an acceptable image.
02:59.06Sinespe:D
02:59.21SinespeDid you find that image on reddit or something?
02:59.30Primartook about 30s in GIMP
02:59.42SinespeI mean the picture of Balls
02:59.43Primarseeing as it is basically google images > copy > paste
02:59.49Primaroh, no, it's like 3rd on google
02:59.52SinespeHah
03:00.58Gary13579can't believe I actually just googled balls
03:01.22Primaryou have to googleimg "ed balls"
03:01.30Primarotherwise you just get standard balls.
03:04.42Primarhttp://bayimg.com/image/dahjbaack.jpg
03:06.00SinespeHah
03:07.06Primarfor bonus points, have http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/ae0dv/jayz_vs_tiger_woods/
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03:15.39Primarhttp://www.viceland.com/int/v16n3/htdocs/medieval-slimes-723.php
03:21.11Mowsey>_>
03:21.14JunkHead-Workhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21730646547&sid=1  <-- wow
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03:23.44Gary13579http://i.imgur.com/4tmJI.jpg
03:25.28Mowseyhttp://fukung.net/v/11881/d49fce593bb6654eba9ee02ddf928b9a.jpg
03:29.22robotusch|:<
03:31.15Mowseyhttp://fukung.net/v/20359/fb36de2aea73621ea1b8fcfae1ac955c.gif
03:32.36Djane3 healing Sourfang 10 is nigh on impossible
03:35.54Sky2042_afkLimbero: lol
03:41.34ArkaenDjane: Try 9 healing it
03:41.36ArkaenIt's much worse!
03:41.46DjaneThat wouldn't actually be possible
03:44.24CorganDjane: 3 healing Sourfang 10 is nigh on impossible
03:44.24Corganwhat
03:44.26Corganlol
03:44.31DjaneIn appropriate gear
03:44.39DjaneIt's doable, but GOD DAMN It its hard
03:44.50Corgan232-245 gear
03:44.50Djaneand in a pug? doubly so
03:44.55Djanethats outgearing it
03:45.00Corganrofl
03:45.00Corganno
03:45.04Corgan232 gear is what's needed
03:45.04DjaneYeah, actually.
03:45.11Djane226/232 is appropriate.
03:45.12Corgan245 is outgearing it SLIGHTLY
03:45.14Djane245 is outgeating :)
03:45.17Corgan226 is not appropriate
03:45.20DjanePssh, 245 are massive upgrades to 232.
03:45.21Corgan232 is ToC10
03:45.27Corgan245 is ToGC10
03:45.33DjaneI am quite aware.
03:45.43Corganfollowing normal progression of gear
03:45.50Corganyou should be in 232-245 to do well in ICC10
03:45.55Djane2 healing sourfang in appropriate gear would be a doddle.
03:46.02Djane3 healing makes the dps...very very tight
03:46.17Corganwrong?
03:46.33Djanewell and doable are very different things
03:46.48Gary13579Corgan,
03:46.49Gary13579http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/ae2bj/now_that_i_have_this_new_ski_mask_i_have_to_rob/
03:46.50Gary13579Corgan,
03:46.54DjaneCan you do ICC10 in 232-245 gear easily? definitely
03:47.00Corganlol
03:47.05DjaneCan you do Sourfang 10 in 232-245 gear? easily.
03:47.09CorganDjane, that's the appropriate gear level for it
03:47.11Corganso, yes
03:47.15DjaneCan you 3 heal him in 232-245 gear? It's tight
03:47.20DjaneCan you pug him in 245 gear? tight as well
03:47.21Corganlol
03:47.21Corganno
03:47.25Corganyou have bad dps then
03:47.32DjaneCan you 3 heal pug him in 226/232 gear? That's nigh on impossible
03:47.35DjaneDoable, yes, but hard.
03:47.35MowseyAHHHHHHH
03:47.54Djane4-6k dps. Pretty nice for the gear levels and class buffs.
03:47.54Corganif you're in 226-232 gear, you should be gearing up in toc10 and togc10
03:48.03DjaneCould be higher with better raid composition, could be worse.
03:48.29Corganif you consider doing 4-6k dps on that fight to be tight, then your healers are bad and need to last longer
03:48.36Arkaenhttp://www.wikihow.com/Draw-a-Caveman
03:48.36Corganor your dps are bad and he's getting to many blood stacks
03:48.47DjaneNoone is dying until 7 minutes in
03:48.48Djanethen its a wipe
03:48.53Corganlol 7 minutes
03:49.03Corganhow many marks of the champion
03:49.07DjaneNoones getting hit by adds, mark is being taunted off
03:49.07Corganfallen champion*
03:49.13Djanerune is being taunted off*
03:49.28DjaneI don't count. by 7 minutes you're looking at 5-6
03:49.36Corganuh
03:49.38Corganno
03:49.39DjaneFirst few minutes, 0
03:49.41Corganthe amount of marks out
03:49.47Djanenext minute or two, 1 or 2
03:49.51Djanethen it goes tits up
03:49.52Corganis entirely dependent on how bad your dps are
03:50.02DjaneNo, its entirely dependant on a variety of things
03:50.10DjaneAre people getting hit by adds, is rune being taunted off and time
03:50.14ArkaenLike how tasty your cheeks are, Djane?
03:50.20DjaneTHUS not actually entirely
03:50.27DjaneArkaen, my cheeks achieved critical tasty mass a long time ago.
03:50.34Corganrune doesn't give him extra stacks afaik
03:50.35Arkaengasp.
03:50.39Djane...
03:50.41Corganranged should be spread out 15 yards
03:50.49Djaneif tanks don't swap Corgan, rune gives him blood.
03:50.57Corganrune heals him
03:51.05DjaneArkaen, I occasionally chew them for tastiness.
03:51.08Djanem'ok, my mistake.
03:51.15DjaneStill makes for longer fight, thus more marks
03:51.17Corganhttp://www.wowhead.com/?spell=72449
03:51.20DjaneStill dependant then.
03:51.34Corganthe only way he gains blood stacks
03:51.37Corganis every melee hit on the tanks
03:51.42Corganblood nova
03:51.48Corganwhich is why people need to be 15 yards apart
03:51.52Corganand the blood beasts
03:51.52ArkaenDjane, I just imagined Sinespe attempting to lick his cheeks. Curse you for implanting that image into my brain last time cheeks were relevant
03:51.56Corganwhich shouldn't EVER touch a dps
03:52.03DjaneThey don't.
03:52.14DjaneDoesn't change the fact losing a dps on 10man is a significant dps loss
03:52.26Corganthe fight shouldn't be 7 minutes long ^_^
03:52.33ArkaenIt should be 15 minutes
03:52.38DjaneAnd it isn't in anyone geared decently.
03:52.47MowseyCorgan is 7 minutes long
03:53.07Corganyou should probably have 3-4 marks out by the time he dies
03:53.15DjaneYes, which is about the 6minute mark for us
03:53.27Corganwe had a mark go out at 3%, and we were bad on tank switches and blood nova
03:53.29Corganand blood beasts
03:53.34Corganand our dps was between 4-7k
03:53.37DjaneRight.
03:53.39DjaneAverage dps?
03:53.40Corganand we 3 healed it
03:53.44Corganprobably around 5k
03:53.52Djane5k X 5 = 25k dps
03:53.56DjaneSaurfang has 8million life
03:54.06Corganmaybe 5.5k *shrug*
03:54.11Arkaenhttp://www.wikihow.com/Teach-Your-Dog-to-Get-a-Beer
03:54.15DjaneWell that puts you at 6minutes 20 seconds
03:54.19DjaneWith no dps on adds
03:54.27Djane2 adds, 100k each, spawn...what, every 30 seconds is it?
03:54.35Mowseyhttp://fukung.net/v/10378/5cde5739fb4a37945e0c6bb53d41cb27.jpg
03:54.36DjaneSorry, lets add in tanks
03:54.39Mowseynsf fragile minds
03:54.40MowseyD:<
03:54.44DjaneTank = roughly, assumption 50% of a dps.
03:54.52DjaneNormally less so lets go for caution
03:54.58Djane30k rdps
03:55.05Corganyeah, that sounds about right
03:55.16Djane266 seconds that puts it at
03:55.25Djanewhich would spawn...8 sets of adds
03:55.30Djanethats an extra 1.6million health to dps
03:55.43Corganshrugs
03:55.44Djaneputs you at 6minutes 20
03:55.46Corganmaybe the fight seemed shorter
03:55.49Corganalright then
03:55.51DjaneThats not even accounting for his heals
03:55.56Corganwe still only had 3 marks go out
03:55.58DjaneLets say he heals, what, 5%?
03:56.03Djanean extra 400k
03:56.06Corganand the tank didn't switch until half way through the first debuff
03:56.07Djaneso thats 10,000,000 to dps
03:56.10Corganand one of our dps with the mark died
03:56.11ArkaenHoly fuck MOwsey
03:56.12ArkaenThat's just
03:56.15Corganat 30%
03:56.15Arkaenughuhjhghfghdfhshol
03:56.30Djaneso far I make it at 6:30 without accounting for tank fail and dps dail
03:56.32SinespeWe had 3 marks go out just owing to people starting to fail later on
03:56.33Djanefail*
03:56.47DjaneResult - Corgan defeated by math.
03:56.47Corganok Djane
03:56.52Corgansay it's a 7 minute fight
03:56.58Corganyou're still bad for having 5-6 marks out
03:57.01MowseyCORGAN
03:57.02Corganinstead of 3
03:57.03Mowseyhi
03:57.10DjaneYou can't get 3 marks out by 7minutes Corgan.
03:57.13Arkaenhttp://fukung.net/v/20478/50a19e6427e5c344b0b6d683a34a7497.png
03:57.13Corganlol
03:57.15Corganyes you can
03:57.18Corganapparently you can
03:57.20Corganbecause we only had 3
03:57.21Corgandiscuss.
03:57.36Corgannone of our dps were touched by the adds
03:57.40BlackNetis there a level limit on honor kills?
03:57.41Corganonly 1 person got hit by blood nova
03:57.49Corganhe gained marks VERY
03:57.50CorganVERY SLOWLY
03:57.53Corganer, blood stacks
03:58.05DjaneExcept it doesn't stack slowly due to frenzy effects
03:58.24Corganhe frenzy's at 30%
03:58.45Mowseyfrenzies*
03:58.47SinespeNo, but you don't get >400 blood power owing to a ... 50%? 25%? increase in attack speed.
03:58.50Corganyeah that
03:58.53fewynhttp://fukung.net/v/14416/ef62d25fd657eb0bf1626227ea6b59c6.jpg
03:59.12CorganDjane, your dps are bad and are getting hit by the blood beasts
03:59.13Corganor
03:59.18Corganare stacking during blood novas
03:59.24CorganIt's one of the two.
03:59.36Djane15yards apart and on our last kill took 2 hits, which is 6 Blood points in the entire attempt
03:59.47Djaneif it's taken you 7 minutes to finish the fight though Sinespe, the tanks have taken more hits than needed to push more than 3 marks though
04:00.00Corganmaybe your tanks need better gear?
04:00.02Corganlolavoidance
04:00.09SinespeMore than 3, perhaps, but not 5 or 6.
04:00.11DjanePotentially.
04:00.19Djane4 then Sinespe? ;)
04:00.32DjaneAs i did specify earlier Corgan, this was a PuG ;)
04:00.39CorganHad one of our dps not died, and our tank not taken 15s of the first debuff
04:00.45Corganhe would have died long before he got 3 marks out
04:00.53SinespeAs I say, the only reason we hit 3 at all, despite 3-healing for the sake of ignorant safety concerns on my own part, was that people started sucking
04:01.02Corgan^
04:01.06Corganwe had a dps with the mark die
04:01.07ArkaenMowsey: http://fukung.net/v/19940/pandapower.gif
04:01.08Corganwhich was 5%
04:01.16SinespeCorgan: We had our shaman die with the mark
04:01.17Djanenotes you're missing the point
04:01.18Corgantank taking 15s of the rune, probably around 10%
04:01.19SinespeAnd then he ankhed
04:01.20BlackNetwohooo epic gems
04:01.24DjaneI'm not saying its impossible to 3 heal it ;)
04:01.26Sinespe'cause he didn't read that bit of the tactics
04:01.29CorganDjane, you're saying that 3 healing makes it difficult
04:01.36Corganin appropriate level gear
04:01.39DjaneI'm saying PuG healing with appropriate or just below appropriate gear makes it nigh on impossible
04:01.44SinespeNor am I, but I'm saying that, even 3-healing it, you can avoid getting 3 marks
04:01.45Corganand yet, you say that appropriate level gear is 226/232
04:01.46Corganwhich is wrong
04:01.51Corgan232/245 gear is appropriate
04:01.55DjaneI've adjusted my statement accordingly
04:02.00DjaneSee above.
04:02.19CorganSo, in short
04:02.26CorganI'm right and you were wrong
04:02.29DjaneNo.
04:02.31Corganyes
04:02.35Arkaenhttp://fukung.net/v/8025/d07f3b475fe6ef17122ff9f3a36954e6.gif
04:02.36DjaneI was simply stating it was fucking hard.
04:02.39Corganyou changed your original statement
04:02.39Corganlol
04:02.42Corganhence, you were wrong
04:02.44DjaneNever said it would be hard in 232/245
04:02.45Corganand admitted defeat
04:02.52CorganADMIT DEFEAT
04:02.53DjaneOnly ever stating it was fucking hard.
04:02.53CorganSIR
04:02.58SinespeThe appropriate gear level would be roughly 236, I'd say. I know that seems arbitrary, but that just means "More 232 than 245, but with some 245 pieces because they are accessible just from Triumph badges"
04:03.18CorganSinespe, gear progression would be
04:03.20DjaneSpecifically, in the group setup I just had.
04:03.21CorganToC10, ToGC10
04:03.23CorganICC10
04:03.27SinespeNot so
04:03.28CorganH:ICC10
04:03.33DjanePish
04:03.39DjaneHeroics ->ICC10, gear wise
04:03.48DjaneIf you know what you're doing with the class itself.
04:04.05SinespeThat wouldn't make sense, Corgan, because it would exclude people who don't do hard modes from performing in ICCN at all
04:04.26Corganoh, true
04:04.32Corganso I guess it would be
04:04.37MowseyNNNNNNG
04:04.38Corgan232/245 badge pieces
04:04.43SinespeMhm
04:04.44MowseyStop sucking at WoW, Mowsey ;;
04:04.47Corganthen ICC10/ToGC10
04:04.53Corganthen H:ICC10
04:04.59DjaneToGC10 is harder than ICC, definitely.
04:05.04DjaneWell, ok.
04:05.05Corganlol
04:05.07DjaneAnub is harder.
04:05.07CorganToGC10 is easy
04:05.17Arkaenhttp://fukung.net/v/20442/ade5f6bc6b346541e0c8a1ec89226b7c.jpg
04:05.25Corgananub is cheesy
04:05.47DjaneAnub requires people to "KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING"
04:05.53DjaneWhich in a pug...unlikely to happen
04:06.02DjaneGuild runs, its all as easy or hard as the group you have around you
04:06.22DjaneICC10 is considerably easier to pug than ToGC10.
04:06.33DjaneAnd thats only after one week
04:06.46SinespeWell, yeah, but ICC10 is a normal mode instance
04:06.48DjaneStill never managed to pug heroic anub without having a guild majority in the group.
04:06.57DjaneSinespe, thus my comment ToGC is harder than ICC ;)
04:07.03MowseyAnd you only have the first 4 bosses to compare with
04:07.05DjaneICC heroic now, will be a different beast altogether
04:07.12Corganalso, lol first wing of ICC
04:07.15Corgankeep that in mind
04:07.21DjaneEh. ICC first wing is longer than ToGC already
04:07.22MowseyThat's what I said
04:07.23Mowseycopycat ;;
04:07.44SinespeIt's only longer because there is trash to clear
04:07.47Corgan^
04:07.50Corgantrash is harder than the bosses
04:07.51Mowseyv
04:07.53Corganololollol
04:07.57SinespeAnd equally fun
04:08.00Djane^
04:08.09CorganI found it boring
04:08.11DjaneHad some fun with the packs before Deathwhisper.
04:08.23DjaneSomehow our DK was managing to pull the entire room.
04:08.29DjaneDK being a failps.
04:08.32Djanenot tank.
04:08.45Mowseyo.O
04:08.46Arkaenhttp://fukung.net/v/6892/1458618673_5049bee95d.jpg
04:09.07DjaneMowsey, indeed, we don't know how either. We think his diseases were jumping...or something
04:09.18MowseyWhat spec?
04:09.25Djane...DK...spec.
04:09.28Mowseylol
04:09.30Arkaenhttp://fukung.net/v/20619/deathbysnoosnooi.gif
04:09.31Mowseywell
04:09.32Corganmaybe you should, you know, pull the trash back
04:09.34Corganor something
04:09.34Mowsey...I dunno
04:09.36DjaneI don't lower myself to inspecting DK's
04:09.42Mowsey>.>
04:09.43SinespeNom, 64.68% avoidance on my death knight.
04:09.45MowseyDKcist
04:09.50Corganman, you're just exposing yourself to be more nad more of a troll
04:09.52Corganherp
04:09.55DjaneThere are about 4 good DK's in the world
04:10.02DjaneTo every 5 million bad ones
04:10.07SinespeReally? Two of them are in my guild then
04:10.09Corganlaughs
04:10.12SinespeThree* even
04:10.15DjaneI know some awesome Dk's, but...there are a LOTTA LOTTA bad ones
04:10.17CorganI've got one of em
04:10.19MowseyI've known lots of good DKs :/
04:10.25SinespeJust like all classes.
04:10.29Corgan^
04:10.35MowseyThere's tons of bad priests
04:10.36DjaneMmm, not quite to that extent though
04:10.38MowseyThere's tons of bad druids
04:10.38CorganHAY GUYS ALL BLOOD ELF PALADINS ARE BADLOL
04:10.39Mowsey...etc
04:10.42SinespeThe proportion of good DKs to bad DKs is most likely the same as every other class
04:10.49MowseyThere's just more DKs
04:10.51SinespeThe only reason you notice it more with the DKs is that there are more of them overall
04:10.56CorganDjane, class/spec? ^_^
04:10.57MowseyLike there was more BEs in BC
04:10.58DjaneSo, more bad ones, overall?
04:11.04DjaneMage/arcane
04:11.08SinespeProportionally the same
04:11.10Corgangiggles
04:11.12DjaneYes ;0
04:11.14Djane:)*
04:11.35JunkHead-WorkWe have a DK in my guild... we did VoA25 the other day in a pug and he did like.. 6500-7000 dps the entire run.
04:11.40JunkHead-WorkI was impressed.
04:11.45SinespeIf 20% of all classes are good, and there are 400k DKs but only 100k Priests, you're going to run into 60k more bad DKs than bad priests.
04:11.48DjaneThat's the thing, you were impressed.
04:11.57DjaneI'm not refuting your proportionality comment
04:12.01Corganuh
04:12.02DjaneNot -really-
04:12.04Corganlol
04:12.10DjaneI just note there are many more DK alts who aren't really played
04:12.12Arkaenhttp://fukung.net/v/15325/514600edf096fc2fafaec32deb96a056.png
04:12.16DjaneBecause of the level 55 rubbish
04:12.20CorganDjane, I think he was impressed by the dps, not the fact that a DK was doing it
04:12.26JunkHead-WorkYeah
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04:12.30Djane:|
04:12.32DjaneWell, ok.
04:12.36JunkHead-WorkI know I can't do near 6k.
04:12.36FathiosHello everyone
04:12.40Corgangtfo with your generalizations
04:12.46JunkHead-WorkSo... 6k dps is pretty goddamn nice no matter the class.
04:12.49FathiosI was much more competent than usual in TF2 today
04:12.51DjaneDefinitely.
04:12.52SinespeJunkHead: I did 5k DPS on my DK the last time I went up against Koralon25.
04:12.52FathiosIt made me happy
04:12.54CorganSinespe: Did you notice how for the frostwyrms
04:12.56SinespeI forgot that I wasn't in Blood Presence.
04:13.02Corganyou don't need to kill heroic lich king?
04:13.06SinespeMhm
04:13.13CorganThat scares me a bit
04:13.13Corgan:(
04:13.16SinespeHeroic Lich King for Algalon Pres 2010
04:13.23JunkHead-WorkSinespe - I'm always impressed to see people over 5k dps.
04:13.37MowseyI wanna do buttloads of dps ;;
04:13.39Mowseybut I'm like
04:13.40MowseyLOLFAIL
04:13.40JunkHead-WorkI don't get to dps in raids.
04:13.41Mowseydrood
04:13.43DjaneThe reason why I believe there are more bad Dk's is because no other class has the ability to start at level 55, so I believe there will be more level 80 DK alts that haven't been played with properly, or levelled properly to understand the class.
04:13.47JunkHead-WorkOnly in heroics usually.
04:13.49MowseyI used to be good at tanking and healing
04:13.50MowseyBut now
04:13.51MowseyI suck :|
04:13.57DjaneI think anyone who has DK as a main will be just as good or bad as anyone else on any other class
04:13.59CorganDjane, but the other classes have been out for longer
04:14.08SinespeCorgan: I'm hoping that our guild gets "I'm on a boat" before the Plaguework wing comes out. We'll get bored if we just farm the place and don't try that stuff
04:14.10Corganlike, a lot longer
04:14.14DjaneThus furthering a reason why DK's will lag behind in quality.
04:14.16Mowsey1 year vs...a lot of years
04:14.18FathiosDjane: it seems like that is a main problem.
04:14.21CorganSinespe, we're going to do that stuff next week
04:14.25Sinespe\o/
04:14.26MowseyBut with all the changes to classes
04:14.30DjaneIt's not the mains Dk's that are ever a problem, it's the alts.
04:14.31Corgan3 lockouts till plague wing
04:14.32Corganso
04:14.33MowseyIt's like they're all new classes anyways
04:14.36FathiosI haven't been in WoW in a few months...has it gotten any better, DK-newb-wise?
04:14.45JunkHead-WorkI had a dk alt on stormrage.
04:14.51JunkHead-WorkHe was lvl 75 I think.
04:14.52SinespeI'm advising my guild to take it a bit slower -- just get everyone used to doing every role, and get used to the fight in general, then set up a solid rotation and give it a proper go
04:14.53MowseyI made a DK today!
04:14.54Mowsey:p
04:14.58Fathiosapplauds
04:15.00Djane\o/ mowsey
04:15.02CorganSinespe, we're still trying to think of how to do I'm on a boat
04:15.02Corganbecause
04:15.07Corganno matter how much dps you do
04:15.11Corganthere are 4-5 mages
04:15.17MowseyI kept pulling aggro off the 66 DK tank in ramparts ):
04:15.18Corgansince they spawn at %'s
04:15.18SinespeYou need to aim for four battle mages
04:15.20Corgannot on a timer
04:15.24SinespeThey don't spawn at %s
04:15.28DjanePretty sure its a timer
04:15.29Corganoh?
04:15.34DjaneIf you don't do any dps, they still spawn
04:15.34Corganwell
04:15.37Corganeven if it's a timer
04:15.37SinespeIt just appears that they do because it's possible to get down 25% before a battle mage spawns, if you're lucky
04:15.38Arkaenhttp://fukung.net/v/6353/computer.jpg bit NSFW
04:15.39MowseyYou're a timer
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04:15.44Corganhow do you dps the boat harder
04:15.45SinespeYou need to aim for four battle mages
04:15.45Corgan^_^
04:15.50DM7000http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/2009/12/08/man-killed-by-exploding-chewing-gum/
04:15.54DM7000wow
04:15.54SinespeWell, you just don't screw up
04:15.56Corgan(you can't)
04:16.01DjaneSinespe, we got to about 5-7% left before the fifth mage popped and I overheated once
04:16.02Corganit's a fixed dps rate
04:16.03Sinespe(Can. Have)
04:16.03Djaneso its totally possible
04:16.12Sinespe25% per mage is entirely possible
04:16.20SinespeIt just requires everyone not to screw up their roles
04:16.23DjaneThere is a level of skill involved in getting the 90-99 heat shot
04:16.32DjaneIt's not fixed dps.
04:16.33Corganlol.
04:16.39DjaneIt just has a lot less variation than most dps.
04:16.51SinespeIt is fixed DPS. You just need to maximise the time for which you get that DPS.
04:16.57SinespeI.e., battle mages dying fast
04:17.17DjaneEh, if you don't blow your heat shot before a mage freezes you, thats lost dps
04:17.21Djaneif you overheat, thats lost dps.
04:17.24DjaneI don't call that fixed ;)
04:17.30robotuschtugs on Viper007Bond
04:17.32robotuschhttp://fukung.net/v/12968/top_gear_clothing.jpg :3
04:17.32Sinespeneither of those things are hard, though.
04:17.47DjaneHard on any single time, no
04:17.56DjaneHard to get perfect everytime by every person? Mmmm, probably not
04:18.07Djanebut it won't be a cakewalk
04:18.09Mowseylol
04:18.45DjaneI don't think On a boat is going to be a -difficult- achievement particularly, definitely a measure of group synergy though
04:19.05SinespeAnyway, you aim for four battle mages because it means that your defending/boarding parties switch after two -- resetting the enemy general's damage stacks and making it possible to tank. Five battle mages *is* possible, but the stacking buff might become problematic at that point.
04:19.53Djane25man I imagine would be easier.
04:20.19DjaneWell, i can see 25man being much easier to outgear in regards to being able to send smaller parties across
04:20.20SinespeNot really -- you get more people to work with, but the battle mages have more health, so you need more DPS over there at any one time anyway
04:20.41CorganSinespe, I got a Time-Lost Figurine :D
04:20.58Corganon my first Terokk kill
04:21.00Corgangiggles
04:21.08SinespeHah. Neat
04:21.10robotuschbastard :(
04:23.15DjaneYou can also cheese On a boat Sinespe
04:23.15Corganrobotusch
04:23.17CorganI just got another one
04:23.24Djanedon't need to send healers over if you do it right
04:23.31CorganThat doesn't help at all
04:23.31Corganlol
04:23.38SinespeThat doesn't make a difference, though
04:24.16DjaneMeans you can run with an extra tank or dps, meaning you can down mages easier/stay on boat for maybe even 3 mages.
04:24.34DjaneNot entirely sure that would be preferable....but you could ;)
04:24.51SinespeWhether your healers have to switch boats or not doesn't change how much incoming damage, and therefore how much healing required, is done
04:25.11DjaneBut it does mean you could have 3 tanks instead of 2
04:25.20SinespeWhy would you want three tanks?
04:25.21Djanewhich means you could do the boat in 5mages, not 4.
04:25.29Corganyou mena 6
04:25.30DjaneNot saying you would, but you could.
04:25.31Corganmean 6*
04:25.33Djane5 or 6.
04:25.38Corganeven still, there's no point
04:25.39Djaneif you ever need 6 mages though you're doing it wrong
04:25.48Corganif you need 5 mages, you're doing it wrong
04:25.50SinespeIf you need 6 mages, you have three tanks.
04:25.55CorganIf you need 3 tanks, you're doing it wrong
04:26.05SinespeI approve of the line syncing there.
04:26.07Djane<Corgan> if you need 5 mages, you're doing it wrong
04:26.17DjaneDidn't you say above you always need 4 or 5 mages? ;)
04:26.22SinespeDjane, pray tell
04:26.28SinespeHow would you switch the DPS?
04:26.42SinespeTo reset tank stacks, EVERYONE has to evacuate the enemy boat
04:26.55Djanereset at 3 mages instead of 2.
04:26.55Corgan1 tank, 1 healer, 1 dps
04:26.56CorganI guess
04:26.58CorganLOL
04:26.58DjaneYou still need 2 gunners
04:26.59Corgan3 mages
04:27.00Corganyou would get
04:27.02SinespeUh
04:27.03Corganfucked
04:27.07Sinespe3 mages = tank death
04:27.11Corganno matter how many healers you have
04:27.12Djanepoints our he said you could not that you should or would want too :P
04:27.14Corganthe tank would get one shot
04:27.17Sinespe2 mages is PUSHING it for tanks. Ours will be using our cooldowns by that point.
04:27.18CorganCANT HEAL A 1 SHOT SORRY
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04:27.31SinespeBut you couldn't
04:27.32SinespeAt all
04:27.36DjaneM'ok
04:27.44DjaneI admit defeat in my ludicrousness
04:27.47Djanebut it is fun to see the passion
04:28.18SinespeWell it's pretty simple maths. Once you've seen the fight you should at least have grasped the mechanics. :P
04:28.31DjaneI have seen the fight.
04:28.39DjaneD'uh ;)
04:28.43SinespeMy job was the easiest when I did it -- cannoneering -- I still gained a tonne of information about the other duties which weren't my own
04:29.05CorganDoes that fight even change on heroic
04:29.08SinespeSuch as the stacking buff on the general and how to reset it ... and, painfully, how not to reset it
04:29.18SinespeCorgan, I SUSPECT that we might be forced to do I'm on a Boat in heroic
04:29.25SinespeLike our jump pack only has two charges or something
04:29.26CorganI doubt it
04:29.38SinespeEither that or it'll just be more damagez
04:29.39Corganmost of the achievements seem to be only doable on normal
04:29.49Corganie, it would make the heroic fight stupid hard
04:29.51SinespeMm, The deathwhisper one is silly
04:29.54Corganlike deathwhisper
04:29.55Corganlol
04:29.59Sinespe"KEEP THIS TRASH ALIVE LOL"
04:30.36CorganI want to get the achieves before the heroic modes
04:30.38Corganheh
04:30.40Corganunlock*
04:30.42SinespeSo do I
04:30.48Corganbecause we're not going to do them
04:30.51SinespeBecause wasting time on them instead of trying heroic modes is fail
04:30.52Corganas soon as heroic unlocks
04:30.52Corganlol
04:30.55Corgan^
04:30.57Sinespe:)
04:31.03Corganexcept maybe the LK ones
04:31.13SinespeGood thing about the gating is that we'll be in full tier 10 ready for the heroic modes
04:31.14Corganbecause we're not even going to bother with the LK heroic for a while
04:31.15Corganprobably
04:31.21Corganyeah Sinespe
04:31.27Corganyou should have full 10 before you get to that point
04:31.32SinespeWhich of course means that they'll be tuned for 251 gear :D
04:31.34Corganlike, probably around sindragosa
04:31.39SinespeMhm
04:31.50Corgan405 badges for all the pieces or something
04:32.09Sinespeif Toravon is released next week or the week after, I can get my first piece of Tier 10 before the fourth week ^_^
04:32.15Corgan:D
04:32.24Corganit wont be next week or the week after though
04:32.29SinespeMm :(
04:32.32Corgansince there's a 2 week notice for the arena season
04:32.35Corganto be over
04:32.37Corganand then there's like
04:32.41Corgana week or two inbetween, isn't htere?
04:32.42Corganthere*
04:32.50SinespeSometimes there's a week between, yeah
04:32.58Corganso yeah
04:33.00SinespeActually, almost always
04:33.08Corganalso Sinespe
04:33.10CorganI got my pug ^_^
04:33.15SinespeIt's going to be rather fail to get tier 10 from Toravon, though
04:33.17Corganand 144 triumph badges ._.
04:33.23SinespeThat kinda cheapens the whole Emblem of Frost thing
04:33.29SinespeHah, grats
04:33.41Corganand I spent 150 on gems for a friend of mine
04:33.42Corganlol
04:33.44Sinespe\o/
04:33.56robotusch:|
04:34.01Djanespent 90 on a certain priest ;)
04:34.10SinespeI just spent all my DK's emblems on updating the tanking gear a bit, because I'm already happy that my DPS gear is ICC-ready
04:34.16DjaneTasty.
04:34.17Corgan^_^
04:34.18robotuschI can imagine the gunshit battle will have some shit where the iceblock will damage the cannons or something
04:34.50CorganSinespe, I need to start tweaking my tanking gear
04:34.56Corganlike, start switching from stamina to agility
04:35.00SinespeBaer tonk?
04:35.04Corganmmhmm
04:35.10SinespeSweet.
04:35.12robotuschI thought you were owl4lyfe? :(
04:35.23Corgan40k self buffed in bare
04:35.25SinespeOh, corgan
04:35.34SinespeDid I show you my blog post about the hybrid tax?
04:35.35Corgan43.21% dodge without idol/trinket
04:35.38SinespeI probably did
04:35.40Corganmmhmm yeah
04:35.41Sinespe:D
04:35.55SinespeStill really pleased with that
04:36.01robotuschhybrid tax?
04:36.17SinespeHybrids are tuned to do less DPS than pure DPS classes
04:36.22SinespeBecause they are hybrids
04:36.32CorganI need uh, helm, cloak, bracers, gloves and belt upgrades
04:36.33Corgan^_^
04:36.33robotuschI thought that was just a myth?
04:36.35DjaneI.e why would anyone play pure dps if hybrids could do the same
04:36.41SinespeOh, no, it's a valid tuning thing
04:36.48Corganthe rest of my pieces are 245 :<
04:36.51SinespeThe "5%" margins people throw around are myths
04:36.56SinespeBecause there's no fixed margin
04:37.30SinespeBut they are designed to do less DPS, and in certain cases you can see why. Like this: http://anathema-wowhead.blogspot.com/2009/12/hybrid-tax.html
04:37.35CorganDKs are exempt to the tax though
04:37.36Corgan^_^
04:37.47robotuschwhat about warriors?
04:38.03robotuschand priests?
04:38.08DjaneCorgan, compared to what though?
04:38.11SinespePriests certainly aren't exempt
04:38.14DjaneIs there any pure melee class except rogue?
04:38.39SinespeI much prefer being on my Priest than my DK when it comes to utilising my hybriddiness
04:38.40DjaneAnd rogue numbers right now are way off the other pure dps from what I've seen
04:38.54SinespeIt's much easier to off-heal as a shadow priest than it is off-tank in the midst of battle as a DPS DK
04:39.03SinespeBecause, y'know, 0 Defence, lol
04:39.07Corganlol
04:39.51SinespeMelee numbers are inflated on melee-friendly fights because on any fight which involves moving away from the boss for any length of time, their DPS becomes next to zero, whereas ranged classes in general can move-and-shoot to keep going
04:40.28DjaneSure, my point was more the only pure melee class is rogue, so thats the only class you could really compare DK's too, for exactly that reason
04:40.34Djanebut rogue dps is abysmal right now
04:40.46SinespeAbysmal?
04:40.53DjaneWell, not abysmal but it isn't where it should be as a pure dps
04:41.06BlackNetretarded you mean
04:41.12DjaneOr maybe melee dps is just always goingto be lower, which sucks for rogues as a pure class
04:41.18SinespeQuiet, BlackNet, the 80s are talking.
04:41.57Djanebut it definitely doesn't compare to the ranged pure's. So my point is, what benchmark does DK have to test against to see if it does pay a hybrid tax.
04:42.06BlackNetlol
04:42.37SinespeWhy isn't a rogue a sufficient benchmark?
04:42.49Corganapparently rogues are bad dps
04:42.50Corganor something
04:42.56Corgantrolls all up in this channel
04:43.11Corganbut then again, we're talking to ARCANE BLAST ARCANE BLAST ARCANE BLAST ARCANE BLAST
04:43.12SinespeCorgan, you know the first two pulls in Forge of Souls?
04:43.19SinespeEr, first two mobs, rather than first two pulls
04:43.24DjaneMostly because I feel rogue is not where it should be compared to the other pure dps.
04:43.39CorganYou must know some bad rogues then
04:43.42SinespeRogue alt popped every cooldown he had on those and did 10k DPS. It was pretty hilarious
04:43.44DjanePerhaps.
04:43.50Corganlol Sinespe
04:44.07SinespeThey put up their spell reflect just as I run out of Heart Strikes to use :(
04:44.30Sinespe"YAY, ALL THIS LOVELY RUNIC POWER, KNOW WHAT I CAN'T DO? USE IT"
04:44.36Corganlol
04:45.04DjaneHeh
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04:46.16Djane<Corgan> but then again, we're talking to ARCANE BLAST ARCANE BLAST ARCANE BLAST ARCANE BLAST - Depends if i'm in 2set T10 or not ;)
04:46.39BlackNetSinespe getting close. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Crushridge&n=Yver
04:46.54robotuschWhy the flip have you named your char Udder?
04:47.36Gary13579that's...
04:47.39Gary13579*sunglasses*
04:47.42Gary13579udderly horrible.
04:47.53robotuschxD
04:47.54SinespeGary, I hope you're going to ...
04:47.56Sinespe*sunglasses*
04:47.59SinespeMilk that joke for all it's worth
04:48.45Corganlol
04:49.58Gary13579Sinespe, believe me when I say...
04:50.03Gary13579*sunglasses*
04:50.10Gary13579it's starting to get cheesy
04:50.36SinespeThis is going ...
04:50.39Sinespe*sunglasses*
04:50.41Sinespewhey too far.
04:51.11robotuschIt came to me on a...
04:51.15robotusch*sunglasses*
04:51.18robotuschbovine visitation
04:51.22many_http://www.wowhead.com/?items&filter=sl=22:13:23:14;maxrl=80;ub=11;cr=127;crs=2;crv=0;gm=3;wt=119:123:103:96:23:24;wtv=100:66:54:43:22:22;upg=40192
04:51.30many_enchanting formula as upgrade to offhand?
04:52.23Gary13579bleh Sinespe wins I can't think of anymore witty puns
04:52.33Corganlol
04:52.38Sinespe<3
04:52.42Gary13579<3
04:52.45Gary13579I BLAME THE BEER
04:52.56CorganI guess you could say...
04:52.59Corgan*sunglasses*
04:53.00CorganMooooooo
04:53.02Corganflees
04:53.08robotuschdeathgrips Corgan
04:53.18Gary13579DAT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE CORGAN
04:53.24CorganTHAT'S THE POINT
04:53.27SinespeTo be fair
04:53.30robotuschBAD CORGIE! BAD!
04:53.39Sinespe"Moooo" would be more likely to appear on a Caruso one-liner.
04:53.44Gary13579oh dude Corgan
04:53.48Corganno
04:53.50Gary13579dexter is amazing
04:54.04Corganyes
04:54.18Gary13579just got done with s1
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05:11.34ArkaenGary
05:11.49ArkaenAre you able to spambot #lightninghoof on Mmoirc? They're being little fucktards and spamming several of my regular channels
05:11.51Arkaen>:|
05:12.55Cadwallion?
05:13.30ArkaenCadwallion, someone's been spamming #wowradio and I am getting massivel ag now
05:13.43Cadwallionblorgh, alright
05:13.47ArkaenLike, I lag from typing due to it.
05:13.53Arkaennow they're joining and leaving
05:13.55Cadwallionworking on it
05:13.56Arkaenguh
05:14.06ArkaenThanks
05:14.19Cadwallion< banned from #wowradio
05:14.25ArkaenAh.
05:14.34Cadwallionso I only see spams when it's noticable from server notices
05:15.40ArkaenUGh
05:18.31ArkaenSinespe: Nice blog. I just found it
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05:24.10CadwallionArkaen: there's a guy in #lightninghoof by the name of shanker who has voice
05:24.16Cadwallionrecognize him?
05:25.35robotuschI believe this calls for some http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD8yLILzU2w
05:27.39Mowseyughh
05:27.57MowseyI need a stupid glyph, but it's not on the AH and somehow I can't log on to my alt with inscription
05:28.03robotusch:(
05:28.12MowseyIt's like
05:28.17MowseyLOL STUCK AT 100% LOADING BAR
05:28.39robotusch:|
05:28.53Mowseybad ironforge
05:28.55Mowseystop being bad
05:28.58Mowseygo away
05:29.02Mowsey;;
05:32.09ArkaenSorry Cadwallion, he was the one claimed to be doing it
05:32.14ArkaenHe was also in #wowradio claiming otherwise
05:32.20ArkaenAlso confused his own gender
05:32.23ArkaenLol
05:32.34Cadwallionyou still having problems in #lightninghoof?
05:32.42CadwallionI banned a couple of his bots and he joined my channel
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05:33.08ArkaenGonna relog onto mmoirc
05:33.18ArkaenI was getting terrible lag and decided to close out, took out the server tab by mistake
05:35.17ArkaenSEems to be gone
05:35.20ArkaenThanks Cadwallion
05:35.40Cadwallionit's nto quite over, I'm trying to persuade the botherder to gtfo
05:38.17Cadwallionnow it's done
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05:46.46Arkaen<shanker>who ever banned Me is fucked up And Will Pay =)
05:46.47Arkaenrofl
05:47.14CadwallionArkaen: yeah, he keeps popping up and getting zlined
05:47.23ArkaenI noticed
05:56.59HirsuteWhere is all this fun happening?
05:57.55DjaneSinespe's pants.
05:58.07CadwallionHirsute: mmoirc
05:58.46HirsuteCadwallion: Ah
05:59.25Cadwallionhe pops up in a new ip, I zline, lather rinse repeat
06:03.37ArkaenIt's back
06:03.44ArkaenI'm using it since it is confused of its gender
06:05.38ArkaenMore bots
06:05.46Cadwallionyeah
06:05.48Cadwallioni'm working on it
06:05.52Cadwalliontoo many hostmask variants
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06:06.31Arkaenah
06:19.26robotuschhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuVNzInsb5Q That's how I want my new years eve to go down :<
06:36.21robotuscherh
06:36.22robotuschwhat
06:36.30robotuschmy premium sub has run out o_o
06:37.02robotuschokay, this doesn't make any sense
06:37.09robotuschtugs on Corgan
06:39.39robotuschhalp, halp, I'm being repressed :(
06:39.51Djaneclicks robotusch
06:44.25robotuschlol wut
06:44.29robotusch.. and now it's back again o_O
06:47.12Morrilhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/12/12/dellconnect_tech_gets_frisky/
06:48.44robotuschlol
06:48.47robotuschwell played
06:49.02robotuschYou have entered too many instances recently.
06:49.03robotusch>:(
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07:04.10NerkelIf you, as a hunter, were trying to tame a rare spawn and you saw someone else in the process of taming it, would you kill the mob before it was tamed?
07:06.47robotuschabsolutely
07:08.13NerkelWhy so?
07:08.27robotuschbecause there's probably an achievement for it
07:08.41NerkelLets say there's no achievement for it
07:09.05Nerkeland that any loot gained is minimal, at best
07:10.03robotuschdepends on what guild said player is in
07:11.00robotuschWe have some horridly elitist guilds around, so I'd love to ruin one of their hunters' taming attempt
07:11.04NerkelAh
07:11.12robotuschotoh
07:11.13NerkelI'm posing this situation because I am in it
07:11.38NerkelRather jerk-ish hunter here at the Arcturis spawn, said he would kill it if he couldn't tame it
07:11.42robotuschif I can see it's someone from a small newb'ish guild, I let them have it since it's probably the highlight of their wow experience ;)
07:12.59NerkelEh
07:13.02NerkelDude's a jerk
07:13.07NerkelHas a huge reputation for being one
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07:21.25NerkelI dunno
07:21.33NerkelI haven't slept more than 3 hours in days
07:24.31NerkelI also discovered a trick for taming a sniffing bear
07:24.43Cadwallionso tired of scanning through these notifications and zlining candidates
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07:32.20Corganhugs Cadwallion
07:42.40AstaraelHeh. Tank out-DPSed everybody in a PuG.
07:43.33Corganheh
07:43.35CorganI do that all the time
07:44.09AstaraelIt's embarrassing.
07:44.23AstaraelWell I was healing so it wasn't for me.
07:45.30AstaraelGot my Perky Pug, I lol'd at the mail they sent.
07:45.42Corganofn
07:46.24robotuschmewr?
07:46.46robotuschSo Corgie, did you hear about my lootz? :3
07:49.06AstaraelCorgan, have you seen what the Pug pets do? They drag their arse across the ground then sniff the spot.
07:49.19Corganyes, I have it
07:49.22Corganrobotusch, ???
07:49.24AstaraelI mean isn't that a bit like sniffing your own toilet paper =[
07:50.45robotuschFound a Ravasaur Hatchling
07:50.55Corganoh u robutts
07:51.00robotuschoh yeah
07:51.01Corganravasaur is from where
07:51.06robotuschUn'goro
07:51.17Corganoh
07:51.19Corganhawt
07:51.21CorganOLD NEWS THOUGH
07:51.41CorganI'm only missing the gundrak and the razzashi
07:51.43JunkHead-WorkCorgan.
07:51.46Corgan?
07:51.49JunkHead-WorkYour opinion is needed.
07:51.55JunkHead-WorkGreen Day Rock Band.
07:51.58JunkHead-WorkDiscuss.
07:52.03CorganThey can fuck themselves
07:52.07Corgan^^
07:52.21JunkHead-WorkSo I take it you wouldn't buy iy.
07:52.23JunkHead-Workit*
07:53.57Corgannio
07:53.58Corganno
07:54.18robotuschWhy the flip would Corgie buy Rock Band in the first place, when he can get a real one by calling up the relevant people? :3
07:54.21JunkHead-WorkI'm not a fan of theirs, but I wouldn't mind their older stuff being released.
07:55.07robotuschThe gundrak one is nightmare, I've farmed that place for ages without seeing it
07:55.20robotuscheven our resident achievement whore haven't got it
07:55.29robotuschand he's paying serious gold for it :|
07:56.07JunkHead-Workgundrak what?
07:56.25robotuschhatchling
07:56.59JunkHead-WorkDidn't even know one existed.:P
07:57.16robotuschrare drop from the raptors around the gundrak entrance
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09:33.08stufUrgh, Rock Band :|
09:33.28stufI am disappoint. I hate the concept of "holy shit be an awesome rock band"
09:33.43stufHence, IIDX <3
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09:36.32RawsOh man, I love waking up at 4 am
09:37.15SkyfireRaws: Yay!
09:38.01RawsThe skyfire is falling, the Skyfire is falling
09:43.58Corganung raws
09:44.10RawsUng ung Corgan
09:44.22SkyfireRaws: Yes, it's a sign of apocalypse. Repent now, or be forever doomed to hell.
09:44.55RawsI'll do whatever Corgan does
09:45.01Corganlicks Raws
09:46.36Rawshonks Corgan
09:46.38RawsCorgan
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09:46.40RawsDid you get my PM?
09:46.42Corgan?
09:46.43Corganno
09:46.48RawsThat I sent like four hours ago before I went to sleep
09:46.49Rawsloll
09:46.58Corganlolllll
09:46.59RawsMUCH FUN AWAITS
09:47.04Corgan2hott
09:47.39Wardmy realm is down
09:47.42Wardon a sunday morning
09:49.01tasty:(
09:51.29Wardweird that only 1 realm is down
09:51.33Wardnot the entire BG
09:52.47tastyhardware malfunction?
09:56.41Wardyeah but isn't the entire battlegroup on the same server?
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10:49.22robotuschoh god
10:49.32robotuschwe managed to clear OK without wipes
10:49.43robotusch.. and we even got the speed kill achievement despite missing a DPS :|
10:50.30Mgelii got amber void in 1 try with new lfg
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10:52.42Russiangood morning
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11:36.40AstaraelEgh. I hate when I'm healing and things start looking bad and my entire mind just goes "oh shit", then people die because I didn't react at all.
11:37.47Juippis:-(
11:37.54Juippisyou can't go "oh shit"
11:37.57Juippisjust spam dem buttons
11:37.59Juippisheeling is hard
11:38.18Juippis(<- hpal)
11:38.36AstaraelThat's the point >.> sometimes I'll just go "oh shit" and then freeze.
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12:04.27Corgan193 triumph badges
12:04.44Corgan=\
12:05.13AstaraelWhat're you spending them on?
12:05.45Nerkelo-o
12:05.51NerkelI wish I had 193 triumphs
12:05.59NerkelThen again, I'd just buy more BoA gear.
12:06.13AstaraelI've earned a shade less than that lately.
12:06.27AstaraelGot a 75 helm, 45 shoulders, and two 35 rings.
12:06.30AstaraelSomeone do the math please? =[
12:06.36Nerkelo-o
12:06.51Corganlike
12:06.53CorganI don't know
12:06.58Corgannothing probably
12:07.17Nerkeland YEAH
12:07.21NerkelGot Arcturis
12:07.24NerkelJust now
12:08.05Nerkelso thank you guys :D
12:08.22Nerkelalso Astarael, 190 badges
12:09.31Corgancries
12:09.38CorganNerkel, I used about 100 badges on uh
12:09.39AstaraelHeh. I was right with 'a shade less' =P
12:09.42Corgangems
12:09.46Nerkelo_O;;;
12:09.52NerkelI guess I'm not that awesome ;-;
12:10.06NerkelI just finally got my tanking 232 legs
12:10.15NerkelYou know what ticks me off though
12:10.24Nerkel3 guilds on my realm are nearing exalted with ashen verdict
12:10.32Corganold
12:10.44NerkelIt still feels rather new to me ):
12:10.50CorganI have an ass ton of enchanting mats
12:10.51Corgan=\
12:10.52NerkelHell, I still haven't gotten to talk to the vendor
12:11.00Corganand bandages ._.
12:11.00Juippiswhat's ashen verdict?
12:11.06NerkelThats the new faction in 3.3
12:11.09NerkelThey give you free rings
12:11.11Juippisjk :-P
12:11.15Juippisoo
12:11.22Juippislike violet hold in tbc
12:11.23Corganand frozen orbs
12:11.23Ziconkicks juippis
12:11.24Corgan._.
12:11.29Nerkellol Frozen orbs
12:11.33Juippissup zic
12:11.45Corganlol frozen orbs
12:11.56NerkelI once had a person in my LFG random cross faction group
12:11.57ZiconNot my wait it's too early in the morning to go there uhm I dunno then.
12:12.01NerkelHe ninja'd an orb and left party
12:12.05NerkelWe all kinda laughed
12:12.16Corganhow do you ninja an orb
12:12.24Corgan._.
12:12.25JuippisZicon: sense, you make none
12:12.27NerkelWe all rolled greed, he rolled need
12:12.27Corganwho greeds on orbs
12:12.28Corganlolll
12:12.42NerkelEvery pug I've been on greeds orbs
12:12.43Nerkelshrugs
12:12.52Corganblol
12:13.08NerkelBackwards? Horrible? Welcome to Velen, I suppose ):
12:14.01NerkelHell, 25 man ToGC Anub still isn't defeated yet
12:14.41Corganoh u
12:15.23NerkelBut who cares, I have a bear that can stealth
12:15.27Ziconjuippis: I make perfect!
12:16.01ZiconMy battlegroup is either 90% ninjas, or it is the norm to roll need on orbs.
12:16.25Nerkelhuh o-o
12:16.29JuippisI knew this battleground-wide thing would only bring problems
12:16.36NerkelI think velen is in the worst battlegroup
12:16.36Juippisdid you read about people botting on heroics?
12:16.42Juippispredictable
12:16.59NerkelBotting heroics?
12:17.26ZiconDoes it count if my brain goes into bot-mode whenever I enter a dungeon?
12:17.34Nerkel^^^
12:17.35Juippishttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21730605923&sid=1
12:18.44NerkelInteresting
12:18.56NerkelI mean, I've gotten some horrible pugs lately
12:19.02Nerkelbut nothing like that
12:22.54Nerkelanyrate, Im heading back to bed
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13:00.30JunkHeadwow.
13:00.38JunkHeadmy first BAD random heroic group.
13:07.58Corganlol
13:16.24Russianpplz
13:16.27Russianbest proffs for Pala
13:16.33Russiansuggestions please =D
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13:33.54Mgeliherbalism tailor
13:34.34Juippisjc+bs
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13:54.54Russianhmm jc + bs
13:54.56Russianno mining?
13:55.15Juippisif you got the money those are the best if you ask me
13:55.20Juippisor enchanting + js/bc
13:55.26Russianhmm
13:55.28Juippisand getting money in wotlk aidn't so hard
13:55.53Russiananother question if you would create a scale form 1 to 5 to grade, with 1 = poor, 3 = moderate, 4 = good, 5 = very good, what would 2 be?
13:56.11Astaraelpoor
13:56.14Astaraeland 1 be very poor
13:56.28Russiank thanks
13:56.56AstaraelWell it stands to reason that since you have 'good' and 'very good', why not have 'poor' and 'very poor'.
13:57.05RussianI dont know
13:57.07Russianmaybe bad or something
13:57.12Russiansomtimes english is a bit unlogic
13:57.30Astaraelbad and poor mean almost the same thing, that'd just make 1 and 2 the same.
13:58.00RussianSometimes bad is jut inappropriate, and poor is
13:58.13Astaraelshrugs.
13:58.15AstaraelIt's your survey.
13:58.19AstaraelI'm just giving it balance.
13:58.28Russianits for a project
13:58.29Russianheh
13:58.54AstaraelIn which case, as a diplomat of the English language, surely my opinion is particularly valid? =P
13:59.42Russianhhe
13:59.43RussianDiplomat?
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14:01.47Russianas in you represent a country?
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14:40.26malikeyefa ra ra ra ra, ra ra ra ra
14:50.04RawsOh god, that was delicious
14:50.09RawsInstead of steak and eggs, I had meatloaf and eggs
14:50.33malikeyeraws, I am gonna make homemade mac-n-cheeze for xmas
14:50.40Rawsunf
14:51.00malikeyewith velveeta
14:51.00RawsI might go for chinese, in the Christmas Story tradition
14:51.02malikeyeit's good
14:51.17Rawshas an all-metal velveeta toy truck from his childhood
14:51.36malikeyesimilar to this : http://www.kraftfoods.com/kf/recipes/velveeta-down-home-macaroni-cheese-50467.aspx
14:52.16RawsCrunchy mac 'n cheese is always good
14:52.28malikeyeomfg it's so good the first sitting
14:55.35malikeyehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc62Dl2c_-Q&feature=sub
14:55.46malikeyephil defranco is hillarious
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15:31.18winkillerjust cleared ToC10 with Totem of the Plains equipped \o/
15:34.05malikeyewhat is that website that tells you about upgrades?
15:34.09malikeyekinda like Rawn
15:34.12malikeyemaxdps or something
15:34.23malikeyeyep, that's the one
15:34.31Rawshttp://bayimg.com/image/dahjbaack.jpg
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15:46.03ArkaenOh man
15:50.42ArkaenI am doing research on zodiac signs and the like, and it is surprisingly interesting. Lol
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16:56.14LimberoD: out of gametime
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16:59.35Primarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2kD1YUtA5o
17:04.14Gary13579http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1492/1260589003037.jpg
17:04.37Primarhaha
17:05.49Gary13579still laughing
17:05.50Gary13579that's genius
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17:06.49Juippishaha
17:06.50Juippisoh dear
17:09.10Arkaengary
17:09.13Arkaenwhat the fuck
17:09.14Arkaeno.o
17:09.30Wardarmstrong and miller are brilliant
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17:12.13ArkaenGary13579: That's scary still
17:12.25ArkaenI'd laugh but my stomach hurts like all hell and laughing upsets it guh
17:13.05Gary13579):
17:13.12Primarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJPqBt2KGpI
17:13.47fewyn[12:10:06] [PL] [80:Ðrakon-Dalaran]: WHERE DO i PUT THIS CORPOSE?
17:13.50fewynhelp me baby jesus
17:15.00Russianwth
17:15.01Russianwhat?
17:15.06Russianbaby jesus
17:15.09Russianlol
17:15.14Russian?
17:17.54[NaL]...
17:17.58[NaL]You people
17:20.57fewynseriously
17:21.00fewynhalp
17:21.05fewynmorons they surround me
17:21.28Gary13579fewyn, sodomy gets 5% bonus crit against mormons
17:21.29Gary13579go nuts
17:22.18[NaL]Morons != Mormons
17:25.52Gary13579[NaL], hah
17:25.56Gary13579that's what you'd THINK
17:32.59[NaL]Hmm
17:33.13[NaL]But aren't Mormons a portion of morons?
17:36.01ArkaenStephanie Myer is a Mormon, so I'd assume.
17:46.01HirsuteShe's also a woman, and an adult.  Shall we judge all women and all adults by Stephanie Myer?
17:46.47ArkaenSure
17:48.24fewynwho
17:48.30BlackNetthought moron's were an origin :)
17:48.41HirsuteOh, and authors.  I forgot she's also an author.
17:48.56BlackNetjust bought me a kick ass 1860 holster :)
17:49.37ArkaenHirsute: All but Authors
17:49.52ArkaenBecause I cannot judge Pattrick Rothfuss to be a dumbass woman
17:50.19Hirsutegoes to look up Pattrick Rothfuss
17:50.40ArkaenBest book evur
17:51.00ArkaenPattrick got subvertly pinged, also
17:52.51Gary13579[10:45:06] <Hirsute> She's also a woman, and an adult.  Shall we judge all women and all adults by Stephanie Myer?
17:53.01Gary13579when you believe in joesph smith
17:53.06Gary13579it kinda automatically makes you a moron
17:53.07BlackNetthink that logic is fail
17:53.50HirsuteGary13579: Ah.  I see.  In your opinion, does anyone who believes in any organized religion automatically become a moron?
17:53.57PattrickYEAH
17:54.00PattrickAsshole
17:54.06PattrickARKAEN
17:54.10PattrickFUCK YOU
17:54.23Gary13579Hirsute, yes.
17:54.24BlackNetreligion has mostly been used to supress people
17:54.49Hirsute"mostly" is a pretty strong word.  Used by whom to suppress people?
17:55.13BlackNetit's all over history and not by just one person either
17:55.26ArkaenPattrick
17:55.29ArkaenPattrick
17:55.32ArkaenPattrick
17:55.41BlackNetArkaen can you lay off the trolling floods please?
17:55.42ArkaenPattrick
17:55.44ArkaenI can ping you too
17:56.06BlackNetArkaen you are probably on ignore so give it a break
17:56.17ArkaenBlackNet: I have, you're the one not giving it a break
17:56.18Arkaen:D
17:56.40BlackNetok sure but lay off the floods there are more than just you in here
17:57.02Drekdonhttp://i48.tinypic.com/24pbamu.jpg Can you spot the difference?
17:57.05HirsuteBlackNet: But religion has also been used to enlighten people and give them hope.  So who's to say what it's "mostly" been used for?
17:57.18ArkaenBlackNet: Tell him not to flood MY name then,
17:58.00ArkaenAnyways, I love how much he reacts to pings. :D
17:58.34BlackNetHirsute sure and it's also been used for many other things to but that's irrelevant isn't it?
17:58.50HirsuteNot when you claim that it's "mostly" been used for one thing.
17:58.51ArkaenUgh
17:58.55ArkaenOccasional bouts of vertigo
17:58.56HirsuteWithout giving any measure.
17:58.57ArkaenI blame it on lack of food
18:00.25HirsuteAnyhow, my son is bored, I'm going to go read with him.
18:02.12ArkaenHmm. Never knew you were a father.
18:03.23Hirsute-AwayArkaen: 3.5 year old son and an almost 2 year old daughter.
18:03.29Hirsute-AwayMy kids are awesome.
18:03.36Arkaen:)
18:04.12Hirsute-AwayMy wife and daughter are at church.  My son is sick, so we kept him home to avoid spreading it around (and thus I'm home with him).
18:04.24Hirsute-AwayTime to go read with the poor little guy.
18:04.33BlackNetmy brothers kid is around that.
18:04.40BlackNetsomething over 2
18:05.39PattrickFUCK YOU
18:06.37BlackNetsomeone is not a happy camper this am
18:07.36Gary13579yay he left
18:07.46Gary13579I really didn't feel like debating religion right now.
18:08.41BlackNethardly ever goes well when you do Gary13579 ppl are to emotional about things
18:09.14Gary13579I understand it gives them hope
18:09.18Gary13579but that's just ignorant hope
18:09.25Gary13579I don't understand how people could live like that :\
18:10.04BlackNetit's blind faith for the most part
18:12.56fewynhttp://gallery.fewyn.net/d/1137-1/WoWScrnShot_121309_131124.jpg http://gallery.fewyn.net/d/1140-1/WoWScrnShot_121309_131040.jpg http://gallery.fewyn.net/d/1143-1/WoWScrnShot_121309_131206.jpg
18:13.32fewynsomeone broke lfd
18:13.39BlackNetwhat's that group box thing?
18:14.25fewynlfd
18:15.02BlackNetah
18:15.04Arkaenfewyn: Hax
18:20.09Hirsute-AwayGary13579: Because not everyone condescends like you.  Just because *you* don't believe something doesn't mean it gives people happiness, peace, and meaning in your life.  To call it "ignorant hope" is arrogance.  It reeks of assuming that you know everything, or that only those things in which you believe can exist.
18:20.25Hirsute-Away*doesn't give
18:20.31Gary13579cool story bro
18:21.00Gary13579enjoy your ignorant bliss and I'll enjoy my arrogance
18:21.43Pattrickhoo boy, religious debate
18:22.23Primarooh
18:22.27Primarwhy did nobody ping me
18:22.32PrimarI'll get the popcorn, wait right there
18:23.05Gary13579Primar, no see I'm not going to argue
18:23.14Gary13579arguing is based around logic, religion is based around fairytale
18:23.20Gary13579it doesn't work
18:23.29Pilatemight as well be arguing for the FSM
18:23.30Hirsute-AwayPrimar: Feel free. There's nothing really to debate.  Just a jerk who believes that everyone who doesn't think the way he does is inferior, and someone willing to tell him so.
18:23.46Primarthis popcorn is delicious
18:24.00PattrickPrimar, lemme grab some.
18:24.03Pattricknoms
18:24.08Pilateyou have to wait more then 5 lines to make a popcorn comment, otherwise youre just reaching for attention
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18:26.10ArkaenPattrick: why do you capslock when you are pinged
18:26.12Arkaen:O
18:26.36JuippisWHY NOT
18:27.03Hirsute-AwayIt is, after all, cruise control for cool
18:27.20ArkaenI think it's cruise control for crazy cat ladies
18:27.22Arkaen:<
18:27.35ArkaenThat's hwy Juippis uses it
18:27.37Arkaen:DD
18:27.55Hirsute-Awaymakes a correction in his notes about caps lock
18:28.43Limbero"arguing is based around logic, religion is based around fairytale", Gary can I quote that in future religious debate? It says everything I want to say in one sentence.
18:29.46Limberos/religious debate/debates about religion/
18:31.02Gary13579Limbero, that one is copyright, but as long as you mention that afterwards, sure!
18:31.14Limbero:D
18:31.16Limberogreat
18:31.20Arkaen[NaL]: WHERE IS THIS MONTH'S FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST
18:31.22ArkaenQ.Q
18:32.31Gary13579Limbero, another great point is god vs santa. you be good, you get presents/heaven, you be bad, you get coal/hell.
18:32.37Gary13579but people still believe in it :lol:
18:32.47Limberogood one
18:32.59ArkaenIf so, everyone gets the latter
18:33.01Arkaen:D
18:33.06ArkaenESPECIALLY YOU, LIMBERO
18:33.11LimberoOMG
18:33.15LimberoHOW CAN YOU EVEN SAY THAT
18:33.22Limberostorms away crying
18:33.32LimberoIt's always about you in our relationship Arkaen
18:33.37Limberoand it is NOT working out
18:33.43LimberoIt's over
18:33.48Gary13579honestly I live my life the way I want to, which follows many christian morals
18:34.12fewynthe only thing i dislike about LFD is it doesn't tell me how long i've already been in the queue
18:34.13ArkaenGetting more raisin cookies
18:34.14Gary13579if god is such an arrogant prick that he wants me to believe in him without any proof, then I'm more than happy to spend eternity in hell
18:34.17Limberosounds like me, being an atheist doesn't mean I'm a bad person
18:34.18Arkaenscrew you guys, they're more important
18:34.24Gary13579better that than spend my life sucking the cock of an egotistical asshole
18:34.45Hirsute-AwayAbsolute, being an Atheist doesn't make anyone a bad person.
18:34.46Arkaenalso
18:34.49Hirsute-Away*Absolutely
18:34.58ArkaenI believe in resurrection
18:35.00Arkaen:D
18:35.08Gary13579Hirsute-Away, according to many religions/christians, it does.
18:35.20Limberoyeah
18:35.22fewynalright let's take this chat elsewhere
18:35.27fewynreligious debates don't belong in here
18:35.44Gary13579fewyn, you are not +o
18:35.46Gary13579get fuct
18:35.46ArkaenBut this is all I got. Unless we can take it to #arl, where I also exist. :D
18:35.48Gary13579(<3)
18:35.49Limberofewyn, we haven't discussed religion or abortion in here for months
18:35.55Limberowe need to vent man
18:35.58Hirsute-AwayGary13579: Mostly according to the "christians".  I'll make no claim that believing in anything (including the existence or non existance of God) automatically makes one a good or a bad person.
18:35.59fewynand i like it that way!
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18:36.27LimberoHirsute, maybe not a good or a bad person, but I firmly believe that anyone who believes in god is ignorant
18:36.49ArkaenI firmly believe that anyone who X is a smurf in disguise
18:36.58Hirsute-AwayLimbero: Then some of the brightest scientists in history were "ignorant".
18:37.07LimberoIn many ways yes
18:37.34Limberoyou can be a fricken genius and still be ignorant
18:37.36ArkaenHirsute-Away: Everyone has things they're ignorant about, in some way or another
18:37.40Limberothe two are in no way opposing
18:37.46Hirsute-AwaySo, ignorant needs more defining, then.
18:37.54ArkaenI'm ignorant to the feelings of women
18:37.56Arkaen:D
18:37.59Gary13579Hirsute-Away, um, of course they were
18:38.23ArkaenLike, many of my friends keep saying this girl is hitting on me but I do not fucking see it.
18:38.28ArkaenWheeeee
18:38.29LimberoI define ignorant as refusing to realise obvious lack of proof or not accepting evidence as evidence
18:38.30Hirsute-AwayThe point being that believing in the nonexistance of God does not make somone not ignorant.
18:38.41Gary13579do you honestly believe the 'brightest scientists' from 500 years ago match the knowledge of a grad school student today?
18:38.56ArkaenDepends on which scientist, and which subjects
18:38.57Djanezzzknowledge? no
18:38.58LimberoHirsute, quantuple negations made that sentence difficult to understand
18:39.33Djanezzzreasoning skills, logic, all the things that are actually important in religious debate? Yes
18:39.33ArkaenLimbo, he said that not believing in god does not save you from ignorance
18:39.47Limberothat's what I thought he said
18:39.59ArkaenDjanezzz: Nice Zs.
18:40.06DjanezzzMmm thanks :)
18:40.07DjanezzzJust woke up
18:40.12Gary13579Djanezzz, what? none of that matters for a religious debate
18:40.13Gary13579I repeat
18:40.14ArkaenIsn't it like
18:40.18Arkaen6:40 there, lol
18:40.20Gary13579[11:22:18] <Gary13579> arguing is based around logic, religion is based around fairytale
18:40.23Djaneyeah
18:40.35Djaneunfair assumption Gary.
18:40.37LimberoDjane, the problem is that you can'ẗ reason with most religious people about religion
18:40.44DjaneI agree.
18:40.47DjaneThat is a problem.
18:40.51Hirsute-AwayLimbero: You said, essentially, "Anyone who believes in God is ignorant".  My point is that, stated the way you stated it, it would imply, "Anyone who believes in no god is, therefore, informed/educated/enlightened"
18:40.53DjaneBut you -can- argue about religion.
18:41.04ArkaenI prefer faerie tales over fairy tales, also
18:41.10DjaneMost of the greatest philosophers that have ever existed have wrangled over the idea.
18:41.11Hirsute-AwayWhich is not true.
18:41.14fewyndouchenozzle is such a fun word to say
18:41.23Arkaenfewyn: Yep
18:41.27Gary13579Djane, yes, but if you listen to logic then the answer is obvious
18:41.30Gary13579fewyn, shut up
18:41.31ArkaenBut how would a douchenozzle really work
18:41.38DjaneGary13579, depends which logic.
18:41.45DjaneLogic you see, isn't actually objective truth.
18:41.49ArkaenGary13579: That people are fucking retarded and are giving me another headache?
18:41.49DjaneAs much as we like to think it is.
18:41.51Arkaen>:(
18:42.11LimberoHirsute, no that is not what I meant, let me rephrase it: Most people are ignorant in some ways, but people who believe in god are more ignorant than most people.
18:42.14ArkaenDjane: The logic that standing in fire = bad is objective truth!
18:42.16Arkaen:D
18:42.26Gary13579Djane, no, it's pretty damn clear
18:42.33fewynTHE FIRE IT GIVES ME RAGE
18:42.46DjaneArk, incorrect.
18:42.49DjaneFire gives me spellpower.
18:42.54Gary13579fewyn, lollll I used to do that
18:42.54Hirsute-AwayLimbero: For someone who likes logic, reasoning and evidence, that's statement is surprisingly lacking in all three.
18:43.03ArkaenDjane: Hax
18:43.09ArkaenDJANE HAS SPELLPOWER IRL GUYS
18:43.10DjaneIncanters absorption.
18:43.11ArkaenNERF
18:43.14Gary13579fewyn, back in BC on my paladin tank, when I couldn't keep mana for the life of me
18:43.15DjaneHaha
18:43.23Gary13579I'd go run into fire that did like 4k/tick
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18:43.26Gary13579and just yell at the healers
18:43.46ArkaenI wish I could stack Str and stam irl
18:43.48Limberono, it is logical that people who believe in a mysterious person that there is no evidence or even indication of existence of are ignorant
18:43.58fewyn:D
18:44.02Djanethat isn't logic.
18:44.09ArkaenLimbero: books, possibly altered throughout the ages confirm it!
18:44.13DjaneLogic would dictate the only course of action is to be a skeptical agnostic
18:44.13Gary13579Djane, anyone who comes out of a religious debate with anything other than an agnostic view of god obviously did not understand the debate
18:44.22DjaneAgreed Gary.
18:44.35Gary13579ok, good
18:44.38LimberoDjane, no, because there is evidence pointing towards the fact that there is no god
18:44.45Hirsute-AwayLimbero: Such as?
18:44.58ArkaenI believe in there being multiple Gods, also, tbh
18:45.02Gary13579Limbero, not really. you should really look up agnostic.
18:45.18Gary13579I personally lean towards the fact that god most likely does not exist, but I still accept that he might.
18:45.21Limberoagnostic means unsure whether there is a god or not
18:45.28DjaneGary13579, although I agree the only logical position is skeptical agnosticism
18:45.41DjaneI'm actually an esoteric pantheist agnostic derived pagan ;)
18:45.49Gary13579agnostic is the believe that if god were to exist, it would be impossible for us to know, Limbero
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18:45.53Gary13579not just unsure
18:45.56ArkaenOh man Djane
18:45.58Gary13579*belief
18:46.06Limberooh, then I guess I'm a bit of an agnostic
18:46.08ArkaenI need to look up all of those words except pantheist and pagan
18:46.13Djane:p
18:46.24DjaneI'm means I am
18:46.30Limberolol
18:46.33Djaneactually means ....
18:46.37ArkaenYour father, Luke?
18:46.43Gary13579I just classify myself as atheist and if people bug me enough I admit the agnostic part.
18:46.54Hirsute-AwayThe primary "logical" argument against the belief in god is that there is no objective evidence for the existence of God.  The "scientific" approach to the matter would be to, thus, 1)Investigate further if observations suggested the existence, or 2)Seek another explanation for observations for which there may be evidence.
18:47.25DjaneThe scientific method would be to disprove the theory of god, no?
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18:47.32LimberoGary, after you told me the meaning of agnostic (the word has a slightly different definition in swedish) I agree with you
18:47.50LimberoHirsute, observations such as?
18:47.52JoltI am just one of those "I don't really care what your religion is aslong if you don't try to push it on to me"-ism people
18:48.05ArkaenDAMMIT JOLT
18:48.08Djanegood stance Jolt.
18:48.10Gary13579fewyn, you're welcome btw
18:48.11Arkaenhi
18:48.19Gary13579I'm going to be bashing pro lifers in a few hours if you wanna be around
18:48.23Hirsute-AwayDjane: Or, rather, to prove the non-existence of God, depending on how you formulate the hypothesis and null hypothesis.
18:48.31JoltDjane: Thanks :)
18:48.34LimberoGary, ping me if that happens when I'm not active
18:48.50Jolt-if that if next to aslong*
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18:49.31Limberomany of the stories about god and jesus go straight against the laws of physics
18:49.37Limberothere's one indicator
18:49.38Gary13579oh god Sinespe you're missing it
18:49.47SinespeClearly I walked in on something amusing.
18:49.59Gary13579Limbero, we do not know all of the laws of physics
18:50.07Gary13579we can NEVER know it, at least whilst inside the universe
18:50.14LimberoGary, true
18:50.21Hirsute-AwayLimbero: Physics does not claim itself to be complete, nor do physicists claim it tobe so.
18:50.25Hirsute-AwayGary beat me to it.
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18:50.31LimberoI never claimed it to be complete
18:50.57LimberoI claimed that we do know some of the laws of physics, which go directly against some of the events described in the bible
18:51.05Hirsute-AwaySo, the best that can be said is that our current understanding of physics cannot explain the claims.
18:51.22Gary13579yes, but we cannot be SURE that our *theories* are not wrong, Limbero
18:51.33SinespeThe "laws of physics" are man-made
18:51.37SinespeThey are guesses based on observation
18:51.38LimberoGary, that's true
18:51.44Gary13579imagine every 'law' we have has a conditional check to see if god is the one performing the action.
18:51.52Gary13579we will never know that, at least whilst inside the universe
18:52.05Nerkelo-o
18:52.08NerkelWhat the hell did I step into
18:52.19ArkaenBuild a cannon, and shoot Nerkel out of the universe. He'll find out
18:52.25Arkaen8D
18:52.28Limberook I'm going to stop talking about the laws of physics since they can't be used to build evidence upon
18:52.28SinespeOr whilst inside this plane of the universe. If we were to enter a fourth physical dimension we might get some answers, too
18:52.32NerkelI better have twinkies in that cannon
18:52.46NerkelArkaen, I got mah bear
18:53.00Hirsute-AwaySo there are two choices, neither of which, to me, suggest "ignorance".  One can believe that our observations are the evolution of random circumstances, or one can believe there was a motivating, organizing force.  One is statistically less likely than the other, but neither is provable given our current vantage point.
18:53.30Nerkele_e
18:53.31SinespeAlso, hi Hirsute. Not seen you for a while.
18:53.35Gary13579Limbero, a better way to go about that debate, is to imply that people around the time Christ was 'born' were idiots, which was true. They did not have anywhere near the knowledge that we had, and could be easily fooled, even by someone just telling a bullshit story.
18:53.44LimberoHirsute, quick question, how old do you believe the earth to be?
18:53.51NerkelNew Argument
18:53.55Hirsute-AwaySinespe: *nod*  Medical school has been keeping me very busy.  I'm on a break now, so I have some time.
18:53.58NerkelPeanut Butter on Toast or Butter and Toast
18:54.03Joltburps
18:54.04LimberoGary, that is a better way to put it
18:54.13NerkelHirsute :D
18:54.15ArkaenPeanut Butter on Buttered Toast, Nerkel
18:54.18ArkaenIt is amazing
18:54.27Gary13579Sinespe, .memos
18:54.31NerkelArkaen, You clearly demonstrate knowledge far beyond your years
18:54.36ArkaenWith cinnamon sugar, also
18:54.37Hirsute-AwayLimbero: I believe the current estimates are between 4 and 5 billion years, yes?
18:54.41SinespeGary: Wheaties isn't on
18:54.42Limberogood
18:54.52LimberoI just wanted to know what basis we were arguing on
18:54.54Gary13579Sinespe, oh god damnit
18:54.58SinespeMhm
18:55.06Hirsute-AwayWhich doesn't contratict my own religious beliefs.
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18:55.28Arkaengonna get moar raisin cookies
18:55.33Hirsute-AwayIt does however, expose errors in my spelling.
18:55.34Hirsute-Away>.>
18:55.35Limberobrb 2 min
18:55.44Nerkelpats Hirsute-Away
18:55.50Hirsute-Awaywill be gone again in 2 mins. Time to make lunch.
18:56.37Gary13579Hirsute-Away, I believe we're closer to 5 or 6
18:56.49Gary13579but good, at least you aren't the religious nut most christians are ;)
18:57.00Limberoyeah Gary, that's what I was checking for
18:57.02DjaneEh Gary13579
18:57.02Hirsute-AwayGary13579: Thanks for the correction.
18:57.16DjaneIt's only fundamentalists that follow the literal interpretation of the bible.
18:57.23DjaneWhich are a minority.
18:57.28Hirsute-AwayBiology, specifically human biology, is my major area of study.
18:57.37Nerkelo-o
18:57.37LimberoDjane, 1/3 of all americans believe that the earth is ~6000 years old
18:57.38DjaneThe majority of christian orientations don't believe in the 5,000 year old earth.
18:57.48Limberothey might be fundamentalists, but they aren't that rare
18:57.51Nerkel1/3 is a rathar large number
18:57.54Nerkel*Rather
18:57.54Gary13579Djane, no, trust me, they do.
18:57.55DjaneLimbero, and american's consist of a minority of Christians across the world
18:58.06DjaneI don't trust you, you have no basis of proof for your claim
18:58.20LimberoDjane, hang on I'll go get the source
18:58.24DjaneSo a minority of minority.
18:58.30ArkaenDjane: I have proof
18:58.30DjaneI'm sure Limbero your numbers are right
18:58.30Gary13579erm, 1/3rd of americans is a rather large amount of the christian population
18:58.33LimberoI wrote an essay about it in social studies some weeks ago
18:58.35ArkaenAmericans are fucking retarded
18:58.37Arkaen:O
18:58.38DjaneNo...it isn't
18:59.03DjaneConsidering there are approximately 1billion christians on the planet
18:59.06DjaneThats 1/10th
18:59.23kuinkittySinespe
18:59.27SinespeKuinkitty
18:59.28Limberowhich is quite a lot
18:59.34kuinkittyI have an issue
18:59.40kuinkittyMy Glyph of PwS
18:59.43Djane1/10th != most.
18:59.45kuinkittyWhen it crits
18:59.46DjaneIt is a lot, yes.
18:59.52kuinkittyIt wont proc Aegis on others
18:59.56Nerkel;o
18:59.56DjaneBut it is not "most christians" as Gary states.
18:59.59kuinkittyOnly when it crits on ME
19:00.02DjaneWhich is all i'm refuting.
19:00.06Gary13579Djane, uh, what. 10% of the christian population is quite large.
19:00.08SinespeKuin: That's odd
19:00.12kuinkittySinespe: Indeed
19:00.14SinespeJust file a bug report
19:00.15DjaneIt is a large percentage.
19:00.18DjaneBut it is still not Most.
19:00.22Gary13579especially since you are not even considering the fact of non US Christians who believe the earth is only 5k years old.
19:00.27kuinkittyThats only happened after 3.3
19:00.29DjaneWell I am
19:00.35Hirsute-AwayUltimately: I've not yet found any "science" that contradicts with my concepts of my religion, nothing that is inconsistent with a belief in God.  Nor have I found anything I believe about God to be inconsistent with our own scientific efforts, provided I accept that our "knowledge" is not complete.  I believe in the theory of evolution, it does not contradict my religious views, etc.
19:00.40DjaneThey are in a significant minority in european countries.
19:00.47Gary13579if you include that I'm sure it will be closer to 1/5th or 1/4th
19:00.52DjaneThat's still not most.
19:00.56DjaneSurprisingly.
19:01.02Gary13579that's still a shitload of idiots, Djane.
19:01.18DjaneYes, but you are tarring all christians under the same brush as a 1/4 minority with your statements.
19:01.19NerkelHirsute-Away, I see what you mean O:
19:01.29DjaneIt is a lot, and it's wrong, and ugly, and just...ew.
19:01.37DjaneBut its still not "most" under any stretch of the imagination
19:01.43ArkaenDjane: And most of them probably don't have tasty cheeks.
19:01.51DjaneIndeed. *chews*
19:01.54Gary13579ok, so it isn't "most"
19:01.59DjaneIt's a minority.
19:02.08Gary135791/4th is hardly a minority
19:02.12DjaneErrr.
19:02.16LimberoHirsute, then this part of the discussion is rather pointless, since we apparently share the same scientifical standards except that you believe that god exists
19:02.16Djaneby definition...
19:02.31Gary13579Djane, that's assuming the other 3/4ths are NOT idiots
19:02.36Gary13579which, they still very likely might be
19:02.54DjaneAlso consider minority groups aren't just defined by number, but also by power
19:03.08ArkaenIf people weren't idiots, the so called "No Child Left Behind" shit in schools would be unnecessary in the US
19:03.10Djanenot even the modern catholic church preaches the earth is 5k years old.
19:03.16Limberoindeed gary, that's 1/4th that are idiots for one reason, that doesn't make the rest intelligent
19:03.23DjaneThe most powerful religious institution in the world.
19:03.44Gary13579Arkaen, no child left behind is ruining schools
19:03.59LimberoDjane, but they are idiots since they are against the use of condoms for example
19:03.59SinespeI would continue participating in this
19:03.59SinespeBut I'm now pugging
19:03.59SinespeSo it's all going too fast
19:03.59SinespeSo screw you all
19:04.02DjaneEh
19:04.05Limberogl Val
19:04.15DjaneDevout athiests are as bad as devout religious people.
19:04.25ArkaenWhat about
19:04.28ArkaenDevout Robots?
19:04.31Limberonot as bad, but they can be bad
19:04.38Gary13579Djane, I suppose
19:04.39DjaneYou certainly seem to be.
19:04.43ArkaenOh fuck, I just imagined a robotic pope
19:04.54Hirsute-AwayLimbero: Which brings me to my point, for most of the definitions of "ignorant" I can conceive, your original claim does not hold true.  One can believe in God without being "more ignorant" than most people.  The term "ignorant" describes a person or people who lack (either by chance or by choice) knowledge that exists to be had.  Considering that it is not possible to scientifically prove...
19:04.55Hirsute-Away...or disprove the existence of God, simple belief or disbelief in his existence does not imply ignorance.
19:04.57Gary13579xXxHaRdCoRexXx athiests piss me off too
19:05.00LimberoDjane, me or Gary?
19:05.00DjaneApplying own opinions as objective facts to back up your viewpoints is precisely what religions do, and precisely what you're doing now.
19:05.03ArkaenWith a stereotypical black man's voice
19:05.05Gary13579but at least their assumptions are based off of logic
19:05.11DjaneArk, sexy.
19:05.24NerkelArkaen, Jewish robots OP:
19:05.25DjaneLogic is not truth.
19:05.45DjaneAssumptions based off it are all the more removed.
19:05.59LimberoDjane, are you referring to me or gary or both of us?
19:06.15Gary13579Djane, I am hardly applying my own opinions as facts, I am taking the best logical option and believing it
19:06.19DjaneA little bit of both, you saying they're idiots for not using condoms, essentially applying personal belief onto them.
19:06.24Gary13579I've already said I'm agnostic towards the thought of god
19:06.32DjaneOH NOES they don't agree with what I agree with so they're idiots.
19:07.15ArkaenDjane, speaking of condoms
19:07.15LimberoDjane, I'm saying they're idiots for telling people condoms are bad for you
19:07.15ArkaenSomeone I know had a party yesterday and almost forgot to buy them
19:07.15ArkaenHe was reminded WHILE HE WAS ON AIR, ON THE RADIO
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19:07.15ArkaenOn a show listened to by hundreds+ of people
19:07.16DjaneAwesomesauce.
19:07.22ArkaenYep
19:07.22Limberowhether you are for or against birth control, I think we all agree that condoms protect against STD's for example
19:07.27kuinkittySinespe: Got me a http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50211 tho, some upgrades
19:07.36DjaneLimbero, depends somewhat on the society.
19:07.51ArkaenHe felt it necessary to tell us that he got a bj, so I'm passing it on so you folks know
19:07.57ArkaenTHE MORE YOU KNOWWW
19:07.59DjaneI think its an outdated notion, but I understand why it exists.
19:08.03kuinkittyNow gieb http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50259 >.<
19:08.10DjaneIt doesn't make them stupid to follow it.
19:08.10ArkaenAlso kuinkitty
19:08.20ArkaenArkaen's Loops of Anger*
19:08.24DjaneAnd attacking them because of a particular belief was precisely what I meant by devout athiests ;)
19:08.29NerkelI got that the other day Djane :D
19:08.31NerkelOn my boomkin
19:08.52Gary13579ok y'all can go fuck yourselves
19:08.55ArkaenYou got a devout athiests on your boomkin?
19:08.56DjaneYou might not agree with it, I don't either. But saying folks are stupid because they DO believe in it, well, that doesn't make you any better.
19:08.57Gary13579imma go find food and get back to work
19:08.57Arkaen:D
19:09.08Limberohave fun gary
19:09.20DjaneThat's a pretty tasty neck
19:09.21Nerkelarkaen, they're a nice DoT
19:09.41DjaneMight have to run FoS then
19:09.47DjaneDidn't know that dropped there.
19:10.43ArkaenDjane: Now you taste people's necks, too?
19:10.58DjaneOh i prefer necks to cheeks
19:11.19ArkaenUnless it's a mental image of Sinespe trying to taste his own cheeks?
19:11.20Djanecheeks are a good source of calcium and loveness. But necks contain minerals, vitimins and tasteexplosions
19:11.20LimberoDjane, I called them ignorant for believing in what is more or less fairytales
19:11.50Djane^ - quaint, but just as unnecessary as a religious person calling you ignorant for not believing.
19:12.06LimberoI'm not a native english speaker, what does quaint mean?
19:12.08DjaneWell yeah, I also see you're attempting to highlight Sinespe
19:12.36DjaneI'm using it in a rather slangish derogatory fashion
19:13.05ArkaenAnyways
19:13.14Arkaenyou fuckers have given me a massive debilitating headache
19:13.22Arkaenand I'm all out of pain relievers
19:13.23LimberoArkaen, you're welcome
19:13.24Arkaenso time to nap
19:13.27DjaneI have codeine
19:13.32DjaneTasty tasty codeine
19:13.32Limberothat'll be $29.95
19:13.46DjaneIt's definition is something like "having an old-fashioned attractiveness or charm" but when used derogatively it means something like Odd and slightly charming in a how utterly irrelevant and pointless manner
19:13.55ArkaenLimbero: Your vicadine will be mine
19:14.15Djaneyou watch too much house.
19:14.34LimberoDjane, thanks, the dictionary definitions didn't help me
19:14.49DjaneOld country cottages are often referred to as Quaint
19:14.59DjaneNot entirely sure why I capitlised it mind you.
19:15.30Limberohehe
19:16.00Limberodamn it, I was like "why am I not playing WoW?"
19:16.14Limberothen I tried to log on and realised again that I'm out of game time
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19:20.17Raws'lo Poe
19:20.32kullervoWhat the HELL. I saw the 2009 holiday gift guide AD only partially as the page was scrolled down
19:20.40kullervomy first thought was "Goatse"
19:20.43Raws:-|
19:26.32NerkelCan't be as bad as the first time I fought Lord Jaraxus
19:27.31DjaneWe've all thought that Nerkel
19:27.36NerkelI think we have
19:27.37Nerkel>:
19:27.49DjaneBut amusingly...
19:28.02Djanei can't think of goatse now without imagining an Erador lord crawling out of his ass.
19:28.11DjaneWhich changes the level of disturbance a little.
19:28.38ArkaenWait
19:28.40Arkaenwait
19:28.41Arkaenwait what
19:29.53Djanewinks at ark.
19:30.04NerkelPoor Ark
19:30.11ArkaenI've never done ToC
19:30.15NerkelI think he's trying to scrub his mind with a mixture of Bleach and Acetone
19:30.15ArkaenMinus a couple wipes on beasts the other night in a pug
19:30.43NerkelToC is a fun raid
19:31.17ArkaenI despise it.
19:31.37NerkelD:
19:31.38ArkaenJust due to some littlefuckwit in the raid
19:31.42NerkelIts not horrible hard
19:31.42Nerkelaw
19:31.44Nerkel>:
19:32.30ArkaenCause he was complaining
19:32.35ArkaenOn teh worms
19:32.47ArkaenBecause epople aggroed when they stood right on top of where they were re emerging
19:33.05ArkaenAnd we were dual-warrior tanking it, and we don't have a drop and forget attack
19:33.05Arkaen>.>
19:34.24Nerkel>->;
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19:46.10WolfeBanea drop and forget attack eh?
19:51.41[NaL]yawns
19:52.14Arkaenhttp://www.commonsensemedia.org/10-cool-games-are-uncool-kids-and-10-alternatives Fucking retarded list
19:54.58ArkaenCadwallion, people are joining and leaving en masse again.
19:55.25NerkelArkaen, sounds like the people who blame violence on video games and not bad parenting
19:55.33ArkaenYep
19:55.58Joltdamn queus
19:56.11Joltor how ever you spell it
19:56.30[NaL]VIDEO GAME, INTERNET, ARKAEN AND NERKEL CAUSES 99% INCREASE IN VIOLENCE
19:56.42Arkaenqueues, Jolt
19:56.53Nerkel[NaL] OH GOD, I MUST KILL MYSELF
19:56.58NerkelBut not in a way that will promote violence
19:57.05[NaL]Impossible!
19:57.30ArkaenThen we must kill
19:57.32ArkaenThat which has no life
19:57.39ArkaenTO ARMS, AGAINST THE [NAL]
19:57.58[NaL]bubblehearths to a sanctuary
19:58.12Arkaen<Pattrick>[#wowhead] ARKAEN
19:58.15Arkaenwat
19:58.23ArkaenTHAT WAS NOT ON MY CLIPBOARD YOU LYING COMPUTER
19:59.26JoltArkaen: Cheers ;P
20:00.13JoltArkaen: Just moved my other warrior to my main server XD
20:00.42Pattricknoms
20:00.48PattrickI love chicken
20:02.07NerkelI like chicken as well
20:02.56ArkaenPattrick, everyone does
20:02.58Arkaen:O
20:04.50Jolti dont
20:04.52Joltonly fired
20:04.53JoltmWwhaha
20:06.56NerkelWow
20:07.05Nerkelthere's an entire alliance guild camping the horde spawn in point
20:07.16Nerkel./tearofjoy
20:08.50WolfeBaneso instead of becoming intelligent, the alliance just copies the horde...that's ...uhm...okay
20:09.07NerkelHey, I didn't say it was advanced or anything
20:11.03WolfeBaneLol
20:12.33Neutronimityhttp://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=134800
20:13.52NerkelI was just reading that
20:14.10NerkelDon't believe there are any GDKP guilds on our realm, all of the top guilds are master looter
20:14.17Nerkeland/or Loot Council
20:16.27DjaneGDKP seems fun but flawed.
20:16.50Sinespeflexes the Shadowsong GDKP peen
20:17.03Djanesexy.
20:17.08NerkelWell, its only flaw is trust
20:17.20Limberohahaha, evil prank, throwing a torn bungy cord after someone who jumps and screaming "WAIT!"
20:17.27SinespeOurs work fantastically. I now have 7k on both my Shadowsong toons because of a mere three runs
20:17.43Neutronimity... and for the others?
20:17.44Pattrickding 80
20:17.52Neutronimitygrats pattrick
20:17.54ArkaenGrats nub
20:18.05Pattrickon a mage, no less
20:18.06*** join/#wowhead Shwaffle (n=aafaafaa@71-35-82-166.stcd.qwest.net)
20:18.09SinespeEven if you do bid money, if you just limit yourself to realising "It's *just an item*. I do not *need* to get it now, I can get it later", you end up spending a lot less and earning a lot more.
20:18.17NerkelWell, I would assume that you always make money
20:18.21Nerkelor at least come out even
20:18.33SinespeNot necessarily, but coming out even is a very handy strategy on the loot of the last boss of the run
20:18.48NerkelGDKP is a bid gold system, right?
20:18.55Sinespe"The pot is XXk, I'll get Xk, so if I bid at or beneath that, I get the item for free, effectively"
20:19.20Djanethe flaw as I see it is it's a PuG system, which...on my server. Urghk
20:19.48NerkelAh
20:19.49Djanenot the system itself, more how it just...is unlikely to work particularly well on Quel'Thalas
20:19.49NerkelYeah
20:20.01NerkelI have a 5k Gear score
20:20.09Nerkelso I can prolly go in there and make money if I chose not to bid
20:20.20SinespeOur server's runs seem to be PuG only in the fact that it's not one cohesive guild group. The people who know about shadowsongeurope.com all seem to be of the particular mind set that can get the job done.
20:20.21DjaneI don't...know what my gear score is...
20:20.34NerkelDo you bid on items
20:20.39NerkelIF you're the only one that can use it?
20:20.44SinespeYes.
20:20.45NerkelIE Rogue/Feral Druid leather drops
20:20.52SinespeYou don't get any item free, ever
20:20.53Nerkeland you're the only rogue/feral druid
20:20.57NerkelAlright, fair enough
20:20.57SinespeThat's why the minimum bid is in place.
20:21.09DjaneAlso
20:21.32SinespeBoEs are amusing.
20:21.33DjaneNo, ignore the also
20:21.44ArkaenGDKP can diaf
20:21.47ArkaenCause I have neither
20:21.47SinespeThey always go for >5k just because people resell them on the AH.
20:21.48Arkaen:D
20:21.58DjaneApparently my gearscore is 5233
20:22.04Joltoh man six days left
20:22.06Joltcries
20:22.10ArkaenLet's see mine, Djane!
20:22.17Arkaen@armory us rexxar aloja
20:22.19[Wheaties]Aloja's Wowhead Profile: http://tinyurl.com/ma9x7m - WowArmory Profile: http://tinyurl.com/q2ujh6
20:22.22SinespeMy gear score is "Fuck you I pull 4k DPS in blues". It's awesome.
20:22.30Jolt@armory eu frostmane Wildhart
20:22.32[Wheaties]Wildhart's Wowhead Profile: http://tinyurl.com/yg2xjnj - WowArmory Profile: http://tinyurl.com/knuudm
20:22.34Jolt:3
20:22.35DjaneA very specific one Sin ;)
20:22.53ArkaenA resync for this character has been requested.
20:22.55SinespeMhm, and one that no one will believe until I finally finish off that BiS blue list and go into naxx
20:22.55ArkaenPosition in queue: 1,321 – Estimated time: 11 hr 1 min
20:23.09DjaneEh, I believe you Sin
20:23.34BlackNethmm if you do a realm transfer what happens to the stuff you have on the ah?
20:23.47SinespeYou can't realm transfer while you have items on the AH or in your mailbox.
20:23.57BlackNetmakes sense
20:26.04*** join/#wowhead Gryphon (n=gryphon@c-76-104-164-148.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
20:26.04*** mode/#wowhead [+v Gryphon] by ChanServ
20:27.17StarkieAs far as druids are concerned, does weapon damage affect dps or is it strictly stats?
20:28.18Primarhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/dave_murray/4166935477/sizes/o/
20:28.46StarkieThat's creppy
20:28.47SinespePrimar: That ... hurts my brain somehow
20:28.47Starkieerr, creepy
20:28.52StarkieI hate heights
20:28.55Gary13579Raw Question:   I  made  a  bet  I  said  I  would  eat  every  poop  I  made  for  a  week  I  tried  it  once  and  it  was  so  gross  what  do  I  do!!
20:29.24Rosemountcancel the bet?
20:29.45Gary13579Rosemount, lol...
20:29.49Gary13579do you actually thikn it's real?
20:30.43RosemountNo but I guess I have to be the one you don't get a funny answer from
20:31.16RosemountPrimar: I'm wondering what these people standing in a circle are doing
20:33.57BlackNethmmm
20:34.22BlackNethttp://tkots.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3520364&gid=101368
20:36.39BlackNetthat seems to be a good guild from what i can see so far
20:41.38Inc`Yargh
20:44.22*** join/#wowhead Alyana (i=Josh@oh-71-54-92-126.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
20:45.23BlackNetwonder why guildlanuch doesn't use the armory to suck in all the info from the toon vs using a very outdated plug
20:46.19robotuschmewr :3
20:46.56BlackNetah they do have a 3.3 version
20:53.12Djanekuinkitty, got that neckpiece too :)
20:54.36Djanealmost has too much haste....as an arcane mage :|
20:56.04kuinkittyIm getting a cardiac arrest soon
20:56.17kuinkitty45mins of Additional Instances cannot be...
20:56.48DjaneMmmm
21:00.28robotuschxD
21:00.34robotuschgently pats kuinkitty
21:01.07kuinkitty:(
21:02.45robotuschyells at BBC Two
21:02.45*** join/#wowhead dragon2041 (n=chatzill@173.3.62.62)
21:02.58dragon2041hey all
21:05.02*** mode/#wowhead [+v Skyfire] by ChanServ
21:05.36NerkelHeya
21:05.49SkyfireJUST IN TIME FOR DRAGON!
21:06.17NerkelO:
21:06.22robotuschD:
21:06.28NerkelI need to make a macro
21:06.29Nerkel):
21:07.37dragon2041SKYFIRE!
21:07.43dragon2041:D
21:07.53dragon2041*runs slowly towards you while crappy music plays in the background*
21:07.54dragon2041*trips*
21:09.13robotusch:(
21:09.26robotuschcalls claim time solicitors
21:09.27Skyfirelaughs at dragon2041. Failure.
21:09.58dragon2041:(
21:10.00dragon2041hi skyfire!
21:10.13Limberoskyfire
21:10.18Limberodo you have a skype account?
21:10.42SkyfireNo.
21:10.45Skyfiredragon2041: ohai
21:10.48dragon2041how's it been?
21:10.49Limberothen you should get one
21:10.56SkyfireWait, yes, I do, but I don't use Skype. At all.
21:10.57dragon2041I'm narrowing down your dorm *stalks*
21:11.10LimberoI'm trying to get the people who used to come on "wowhead's vent" back together
21:11.16Limberoand skype is the easiest way to do it
21:11.25dragon2041or you could just go on wowhead's fine
21:11.26Skyfiredragon2041: It's on my Facebook page. A little stalkery could find you my Facebook.
21:11.26dragon2041vent*
21:11.38dragon2041um
21:11.41dragon2041your facebook is linked on your profile
21:11.47Skyfirelolwut
21:11.59dragon2041it is
21:12.16SkyfireFail.
21:12.17SkyfireIt isn't.
21:12.19dragon2041teehee
21:12.37dragon2041hey, i just found an awesome quote in my profile
21:12.39dragon2041"talking with vikey is like hugging a puppy - it's momentarily satisfying, but in the end you'll end up on the roof of your office, debating whether or not to jump."
21:13.25LimberoSkyfire, you should start using skype regularly
21:13.38Limberoor at least always have it run in the background
21:13.54*** join/#wowhead Rose (i=chatzill@f051053013.adsl.alicedsl.de)
21:14.02LimberoI'ma try and get molf, elura, hax, and the rest of them to make skype accounts too
21:14.11Limberodamnit
21:14.12dragon2041and skyfire, it would take a lot of stalkery to find your facebook
21:14.19Limberostupid programming ssignment
21:14.23Limberodragon2041
21:14.23dragon2041i can help!
21:14.24Skyfiredragon2041: No. It's really really easy.
21:14.25Limberonot much
21:14.26dragon2041lol
21:14.31LimberoI have his facebook account
21:14.35dragon2041..
21:14.44Skyfiredragon2041: You could get there from my images on Wowhead or from simply googling "sky2042"
21:14.49dragon2041omg i found it
21:14.51dragon2041oh
21:14.53dragon2041that's not what i googled
21:14.55dragon2041but i found it
21:14.59Skyfireroflol
21:15.02dragon2041http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=skyfire&init=quick#/Skyfire?ref=search&sid=100000081547512.2944908860..1
21:15.08dragon2041;p
21:15.14Limberodragon2041: I'm gonna give you a hint: his facebook url starts with http://www.facebook.com/
21:15.26dragon2041"Four dolllar apple juice is good four dollar apple juice."
21:15.28Skyfiredragon2041: lolfail
21:15.32SkyfireLOLWUT
21:15.39dragon2041"RT @aimeetakespics: I thought this was America, I just made myself a pb and j burrito since we had no bread. Lame."
21:15.50Skyfireoh, that.
21:15.57SkyfireYeah, that's me.
21:16.02dragon2041hi steve!
21:16.08Limberoskyfire what is the messiah sing?
21:16.10Skyfiredragon2041: Now, stalk some more.
21:16.13dragon2041ol
21:16.14dragon2041lol*
21:16.21dragon2041i'm already at your facebook :(
21:16.33dragon2041and i know where oy live
21:16.35Limberodragon, you should know what SIS is within 5 mins if you're a good stalker
21:16.36dragon2041and you're within 30 miles of me
21:16.42NeutronimitySkyfire: I shall take on the challenge
21:16.44LimberoSIT*
21:16.44SkyfireLimbero: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah_%28Handel%29
21:16.44dragon2041um
21:16.46dragon2041not within 5mins
21:16.52dragon2041where do you think i live o_O
21:16.56Limberodragon, you really should
21:17.00Limberohint, MIT
21:17.10dragon2041haha
21:17.14dragon2041did yo ureally run an IP tracer on me?
21:17.43Limberodragon, new challenge, find my facebook
21:17.52dragon2041sky knows i live within 30mi of him
21:17.53Limberoif skyfire accepted your friend request it shouldn't be too hard
21:18.01dragon2041also, i don't live on ratzer road
21:18.08SkyfireDRAGON STOP CREEPIN ON ME GAWD
21:18.10dragon2041i'm not
21:18.20dragon2041Limbero, what grade are oy in?
21:18.30Limbero2nd grade of high school
21:18.33Limberowon't help you much
21:18.38dragon2041i'm not trying to stalk you
21:18.43Limberooh
21:18.43dragon2041was just curious
21:18.48Limberolol
21:19.03dragon2041skyfire
21:19.06dragon2041i am NEVER talking to you again
21:19.08dragon2041"sed i didnt tell im i wad oin this bt a obv did lol nd anyway es nt complainin bwt it now"
21:19.10Limberoskyfire btw, your mom rocks
21:19.17SkyfireLimbero: I know.
21:19.22Skyfiredragon2041: wth?
21:19.25dragon2041;p
21:19.26SkyfireWho's was that?
21:19.27dragon2041hahahahha
21:19.29dragon2041hahaha
21:19.39dragon2041http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=steven+rawson&init=quick#/pages/Steven-Rawson/34015879976?ref=search&sid=100000081547512.3815959348..1
21:20.12Skyfiredragon2041: Yeah, there are some stupid ones out there.
21:20.17dragon2041teehee
21:20.33dragon2041which steve are you!
21:20.46Skyfireo.0
21:20.52dragon2041i am now following you
21:20.54Limberoyou already found him...
21:21.03dragon2041so?
21:21.17Limberowth are you even doing
21:21.20Limbero?
21:21.50dragon2041on his twitter
21:22.27Limberommmk
21:22.52dragon2041then why not go offilne?
21:22.54dragon2041why just CHANGE YOUR NAME
21:22.56NerkelHow do flight paths work?
21:23.41BlackNetthey give you a chance to take a few min break from playing the game :)
21:23.48NerkelWell, I guess
21:23.53NerkelLEmme explain
21:23.55LimberoSkyfire, I am disappointed: "World of Warcraft is battling Halo:Combat Evolved in Crispygamer's "Game of Decade." Now's your chance to vote for WoW. http://bit.ly/8zC6xt"
21:24.03robotuschD:<
21:24.05dragon2041wowhead didn't censor me
21:24.07dragon2041>.>
21:24.14NerkelI have the flight path for Lights place in Zul'Drak
21:24.24NerkelI am in dal, but in order to get there
21:24.24SkyfireLimbero: Oldnews.
21:24.29dragon2041limbero you swede
21:24.31SkyfireIt's up to WoW vs HL2.
21:24.39SkyfireAnd they're goin 50-50\
21:24.45NerkelI have to fly to Mo'ahi harbor, go to Howling Fjord, go to Grizzly hills
21:24.46LimberoSkyfire, that's besides the point
21:24.54Limberoyou can't encourage people to vote down halo
21:24.55Nerkelthen I can get there about 10 minutes later
21:24.57SkyfireLimbero: Halo 2 is old news. Period. End of story.
21:25.03dragon2041sky, did you live in NJ prior to going to SIT?
21:25.08LimberoHalo: Combat Evolved is Halo 1
21:25.15Limberonope
21:25.21Limberohe did not
21:25.25dragon2041hrm
21:25.25Inc`drools at http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10406.html
21:25.26Skyfire^^^^^^^^^^^^^
21:25.29LimberoI am from now on his spokesperson
21:25.36dragon2041skyfire drools at that too?
21:25.47Limberono
21:25.50Limberohe does not
21:25.54Limberohe agrees with what I said
21:25.55dragon2041he did up to it, though
21:25.57dragon2041so HAH
21:25.59dragon2041i WIN
21:26.01dragon2041you L"OSE
21:26.04Limberoit was a mistake
21:26.12dragon2041anyone wanna do co-op UT3 Campaign with me?
21:26.14SkyfireInc`: Sex.
21:26.23dragon2041what?
21:26.40Inc`Skyfire: It's like an orgasm in an SSD
21:26.49SkyfireInc`: Yes.
21:27.02Inc`Now if only USB 3.0 became mainstream
21:27.05LimberoInc`, drool indeed
21:27.14NerkelHirsute, how goes med school?
21:27.28LimberoInc`, I always manage to just miss the USB transitions... D:
21:27.29ArkaenLF USB 3.0 For new computer, will pay 20c
21:27.39LimberoI bought my last computer just before the launch of USB 2.0
21:27.49Inc`teehee
21:27.49Limberoand this one is only a year old
21:27.51Inc`Bet that sucked
21:27.52HirsuteNerkel: On a break at the moment, but in a couple of weeks I start up again, I'll spend a month on a native american reservation doing family medicine.  I'm looking forward to it.
21:27.57dragon2041steven, i'm surprised at you!
21:27.59Nerkel:O
21:28.02LimberoInc`: oh it sucked
21:28.05NerkelHirsute, sounds amazing o.o
21:28.11LimberoUSB 1.0 was soooooo not the shit
21:28.14dragon2041don't you know that's racist!
21:28.33Limberodragon, shut the hell up, and this isn't skyfire talking
21:28.35dragon2041oh also, i suggest deleting the randomness post saying red-headed people are "gay and made by the devil"
21:28.38HirsuteWait, who'se racist?
21:28.57LimberoHirsute, you and I may disagree on religion, but ignore dragon2041 for your own good
21:29.00Arkaendragon2041: Oh man, I feel even worse for redheaded stepchildren now
21:29.06dragon2041o_O
21:29.08SkyfireI'm racist?
21:29.10Skyfireo.0
21:29.19LimberoSkyfire, no
21:29.20dragon2041no
21:29.20ArkaenEveryone's a little bit racist
21:29.22ArkaenI love that song
21:29.23dragon2041exactly
21:29.26dragon2041thank you arkaen
21:29.33RawsHirsute: as in WFR or EMT qualification, or some sort of general practice?
21:29.47Inc`dragon2041: link plx
21:29.52dragon2041to what? the post?
21:29.52Limberoargh, STUPID LINKED LISTS
21:29.52HirsuteLimbero: The fact that we disagree on religion has no bearing on really any other aspect of our communication, I appreciate the advice!
21:29.52dragon2041or the song
21:29.59LimberoI hate c++ right now
21:30.00Inc`Limbero: \o/
21:30.04LimberoHirsute, exactly :D
21:30.13Inc`Post
21:30.16LimberoInc`: that is so not \o/
21:30.20HirsuteRaws: I'm a 3rd year medical student, so I'll be working essentially as a physician (with lots of supervision).
21:30.23RawsInc`: that is so hot
21:30.29HirsuteSo, general family practice
21:30.32RawsHirsute: awesome :O
21:30.38HirsuteI'm looking forward to it.
21:30.42dragon2041http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=134850.2    6th post
21:30.42RawsI would be, too
21:30.48LimberoInc`: you want to see my code?
21:31.11Inc`Sure, why not
21:31.13dragon2041i do!
21:31.22HirsuteSo, someone mentioned (some time back) being familiar with UTF-8.
21:31.29Limberomy code is not something I go around and show to everyone, it is something very private
21:31.31HirsuteFie on UTF-8
21:31.31dragon2041can i see :(?
21:31.33LimberoI'm not a whore
21:31.44dragon2041riight
21:31.45Limberoon a serious note, brb pasting
21:31.47Inc`Pfft
21:31.47dragon2041i used to think you were a nice guy =\
21:31.51Skyfirewhores Limbero.
21:31.51RawsUnicode h8rs gonna h8
21:32.01Inc`What kind of sane programmer would pass up an opportunity to brag about his/her code?
21:32.15BlackNeta good one
21:32.16dragon2041i know, rihgt?
21:32.16dragon2041i just did ACSL on friday
21:32.19dragon2041awesomeness squared
21:32.26Inc`encodes Raws in UTF-69
21:32.30Rawswhoa
21:32.31RawsWHOA
21:32.42dragon2041lol
21:32.45Cadwallionso tired of bots, really
21:32.48HirsuteI spent the better part of the day yesterday trying to figure out why a regex that was *really* simple, involving unicode properties wasn't matching.  Turns out its because, even though I was specifying the match should use UTF-8, I failed to specify UTF-8 encoding when reading in the file initially.
21:32.59dragon2041*goes back to ACSL*
21:33.07LimberoInc`: http://pastey.net/130196 be ready for amateur programming plus the actual game being in swedish
21:33.15RawsHirsute: well don't hate on UTF-8, hate on your API
21:33.15Inc`There is some facepalm material Hirsute
21:33.23RawsOr hate on encodings in general
21:33.23LimberoSkyfire, don't whore me
21:33.30Neutronimityhttp://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/highleveloptions.html
21:33.33RawsUnicode itself is great
21:33.37Neutronimitygg ain't updated for wrath
21:33.46SkyfireLimbero: I"M GONNA WHORE U WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT
21:33.54HirsuteRaws: It isn't UTF-8 specifically, its the incredibly inconsistent handling of it across coding APIs.  You're right.  I get to hate on perl, instead.
21:33.57LimberoNOOOO
21:33.58BlackNetgood grief. wow is unplayable today
21:34.00ArkaenNeutronimity: It's not updated for Burning Crusdae
21:34.06HirsuteBlackNet: What's happening?
21:34.09Arkaens/Crusdae/Crusade/
21:34.24dragon2041is htis blackjack?
21:34.26NeutronimityArkaen: partially updated
21:34.29ArkaenRaws: I just had Perogies, Pudding, and Sunny D for dinner
21:34.31dragon2041limbero?
21:34.31Arkaen:D
21:34.32Limberodragon2041, yes it is
21:34.36dragon2041k cool
21:34.36RawsArkaen: :|
21:34.37HirsuteIt would be nice if purl could strip out the ping from it's corrections when you do a substitution.
21:34.38Limberobut it's in swedish
21:34.42Limberoand poorly programmed
21:34.43NeutronimityScroll down
21:34.45NerkelWhats a Perogie
21:34.45dragon2041i should writ ea blackjack game
21:34.47dragon2041in python
21:34.48Limberonot checking for duplicate cards
21:34.51Inc`Grats to me on not knowing C++ D:
21:34.53RawsHirsute: ffff, perl
21:34.54dragon2041probably would only take like, eh.... 10 minutes
21:34.56ArkaenNERKEL
21:35.00Limberoand the odds of drawing specific cards are way off
21:35.02ArkaenWE ARE RE-EDUCATING YOU
21:35.04ArkaenNOW.
21:35.06Nerkelo-o
21:35.18ArkaenFinding where you live and a car, brb
21:35.22HirsuteRaws: In general, I prefer it for the task it was doing (reading data out of files, parsing the data, and writing it out in new formats), but this was ridiculous.
21:35.29Neutronimityhttp://www.wow-europe.com/de/info/basics/characters.html
21:35.30SkyfireInc`: C++ is easy. :x
21:35.32Neutronimity<PROTECTED>
21:35.39dragon2041python is easier
21:35.39NeutronimityDie Höchststufe in World of Warcraft beträgt 60. Die Erweiterung The Burning Crusade  erhöht die Höchststufe auf 70.
21:35.45LimberoSkyfire, PLEASE tell me you're a linked lists pro
21:35.54Inc`Skyfire: I'm sure it is, I've just never bothered to learn it
21:35.55SkyfireLimbero: Neva heard of em.
21:36.09RawsHirsute: lol
21:36.09NeutronimityThe highest level achievable in World of Warcraft is 60. The expansion The Burning Crusade ups it to 70.
21:36.10Inc`Too busy puking over Java and swooning over Python
21:36.10LimberoSkyfire: god dammit
21:36.13Inc`And indifferent to PHP
21:36.13HirsuteIf I were *really* ambitious, I'd rewrite this particular script in lua, since it's parsing the data it reads into lua code anyway.
21:36.15NeutronimityTOTALLY NOT UPDATED
21:36.22NeutronimitySCREW THE LOCALIZATION TEAM
21:36.24HirsuteBut it's already over a thousand lines, and I'm not that ambitious.
21:36.27NeutronimityHIRE ME
21:36.44LimberoSkyfire, they're basically arrays but flexible, good for making highscores for example
21:36.51Inc`I'd probably try to learn Ruby too if I had any practical use for it
21:36.55dragon2041deck = (1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2 k i got lazy 'im not finishing
21:36.55Limberobecause you can reorder the values whenever you feel like it
21:37.05Limberothe problem is I don't know the syntax for them
21:37.06SkyfireThat's sexy.
21:37.08RawsI'm working in Ruby as we speak
21:37.11dragon2041learn python >:(
21:37.23Limberoc++ > all
21:37.26Inc`dragon2041: I am already pretty much fluent in Python
21:37.27dragon2041no
21:37.29dragon2041cool inc'
21:37.31dragon2041:D
21:37.35RawsInc'
21:37.39SkyfireLimbero: Does http://richardbowles.tripod.com/cpp/linklist/linklist.htm not explain well enough?
21:37.40Limberodragon2041: it's Inc`
21:37.47dragon2041no
21:37.49Inc`Sometimes I go the extra mile and write Java code in Python
21:37.59LimberoSkyfire: 1) OMG 1990's website hurts my eyes
21:38.00Nerkelo-o
21:38.02Inc`Generally only when I'm prototyping though
21:38.07NerkelI once tried to learn python ;-;
21:38.09Limbero2) No it doesn't do it for me
21:38.10SkyfireLimbero: qqmoar. just read the damn thing.
21:38.15Inc`Or feel like waiting a really long time for my code to start executing
21:38.15RawsSometimes I go the extra ten miles and write Java in Java
21:38.21HirsuteRaws: Ruby coding is a very different paradigm from what I'm used to.  I tried to learn it for a while, but I just don't have the time.  And as far as python goes... I'm sure it's a good language and all, but Python-heads seem to mostly be more zealous than Mac'ies.  >.>
21:38.25SkyfireInc`: WTF? Java in Python? Why would you abuse Python like that?
21:38.26Inc`Raws: Literally
21:38.27LimberoI know how to google skyfire, that's not the help I need
21:38.36Hirsuteducks
21:38.40Inc`Skyfire: I work with Tomcat/JSP/Servlets at work
21:38.55SkyfireD:::::::::
21:39.00SkyfireYes, I have many eyez.
21:39.01Inc`I can prototype the code in half the time if I use jython
21:39.02dragon2041inc
21:39.04dragon2041what?
21:39.10dragon2041i'm confused, java in python
21:39.21Rawsnew FactoryFactory(new FactoryReader(new BufferedFactory(tempBuff)));
21:39.29Inc`There is a Java based python interpreter called jython
21:39.29LimberoSkyfire, that whole page is on a higher level of programming than I am
21:39.36Inc`Which can compile Python code into Java bytecode
21:39.39dragon2041oh
21:39.42dragon2041so you juts write python
21:39.44dragon2041basically
21:39.48Inc`Pretty much
21:39.51RawsSame with jruby
21:39.54SkyfireLimbero: Or you just fail at English, I guess.
21:40.00Inc`Except I make Java API calls and such
21:40.02LimberoSkyfire, no
21:40.10LimberoI am not unfamiliar with the language used
21:40.14dragon2041so you're not writing java in python
21:40.17dragon2041you're writing in python
21:40.20dragon2041and compiling it to java
21:40.26LimberoI just haven't learned everything they assume you know yet
21:40.29Inc`Meh, if you want to  get technical then yes
21:40.38HirsuteHrmmm. Time to logoff.  Later all.
21:40.42dragon2041python is such a pretty language <3
21:40.43dragon2041lol
21:40.52NeutronimitySweet, can I have a compiler that translates English to python?
21:40.54Limberoc++ is prettier
21:41.01dragon2041c++ is more complicatd
21:41.01RawsInc` spends his days writing hot applets which display aliased text
21:41.04dragon2041and has more annoying syntax
21:41.06RawsLimbero: you are on drugs
21:41.11Inc`lol Raws
21:41.11LimberoNeutronimity, yeah it's built into irc
21:41.12dragon2041python is pretty * 200
21:41.17Inc`APPLETS > *
21:41.20dragon2041C++ makes you a better programmer
21:41.22RawsThe only language uglier than C++ is Perl
21:41.23LimberoRaws, I'm not on drugs, C++ is a pretty language
21:41.24Inc`ALL YOU GUYS WHO SAY OTHERWISE ARE JUST HATERS
21:41.35dragon2041java is also an awesome language
21:41.38dragon2041not as pretty as python
21:41.42dragon2041but more useful in certain aspects
21:41.42RawsYou are all whack
21:41.43dragon2041(like applets)
21:41.48Inc`Java has it's benefits
21:42.01Inc`One of them that goes either way is it's verbosity :/
21:42.02dragon2041C++...
21:42.06dragon2041is a language everyone should know
21:42.12dragon2041every programmer*
21:42.15dragon2041but one that should never be touched unless oyu hav eto
21:42.17dragon2041have to*
21:42.17Limberodragon2041, how old are you?
21:42.22LimberoI thought you were like 14
21:42.23dragon204114
21:42.25dragon2041i am
21:42.27dragon2041you're 15
21:42.28dragon2041so?
21:42.31Limberono
21:42.34LimberoI'm 17
21:42.43dragon2041second year of high school?
21:42.45RawsI'm going to invalidate this entire discussion by pointing out that the best language depends on the goal of the project
21:42.48malikeyewhat the fuck do I want for dinner ?
21:42.52Inc`Agreed Raws
21:42.53Rawsmalikeye: you told me this morning
21:42.57Limberoand you're pretty darn bright if you already know java python and c++
21:43.00Nerkelo-o
21:43.03dragon2041raws, that's what i said?
21:43.05malikeyethat is for xmas
21:43.05dragon2041i don't, limbero
21:43.10dragon2041i can read java and c++
21:43.12Limberodragon2041, in sweden you are 17 in second year of high school
21:43.13dragon2041i can write some java
21:43.16dragon2041and i can write quite a bit of python
21:43.17Limberooh, k
21:43.17Rawsmalikeye: pah, who cares
21:43.21dragon2041err
21:43.30dragon2041is second year like starting from the top?
21:43.36malikeyeI care cause I gotta eat the shit
21:43.44Rawsmalikeye: gross
21:43.47Skyfiredragon2041: He's saying that you're that advanced.
21:43.52dragon2041yay :D
21:44.11LimberoSkyfire: no I wasn't saying he's high school level
21:44.13SkyfireWhich is pathetic, because as everyone knows, if you're going to learn programming, you need to learn it early in life.
21:44.20dragon2041i'm in high school >.>
21:44.22SkyfireLimbero: Than WUT WAS U SAYIN!?
21:44.31LimberoI was saying he's pretty darn bright
21:44.36Inc`If you're not programming at age 6, you're not a real programmer
21:44.38Inc`imo
21:44.42dragon2041lol
21:44.42malikeyeI told all rednecks to fuck off in my facebook status
21:44.43malikeyekinda
21:44.47dragon2041lol
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21:44.52Limberoand that I as in ME am in second year of high school
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21:45.03dragon2041WHAT JUST HAPPENEd
21:45.10dragon2041what's going on!
21:45.19dragon2041i tried to go and then the electricity was gone!
21:45.19Neutronimity[22:44:50]<Limbero>and that I as in ME am in second year of high school
21:45.24malikeyeget a grip dude
21:45.25dragon2041i don't even know if the first half of that line is right
21:45.37dragon2041skyfire understands, right?
21:45.40Inc`Raws: Hurry up and write more code to license under the WTFPL >:O
21:45.44LimberoInc`: I started programming at age 15
21:45.49Limberowith visual basic
21:45.52dragon2041lawl
21:46.00Inc`Oh god VB
21:46.07Skyfiredragon2041: No.
21:46.10Inc`I have seen things
21:46.11SkyfireInc`: Yes.
21:46.13dragon2041blackout
21:46.16dragon2041one of the first lines
21:46.16malikeyeI think I might order pizza
21:46.17Inc`That you can only hope you will never see
21:46.23Limberolol
21:46.25dragon2041shortly after "I can't find usnavi!"
21:46.27NerkelPizza sounds good
21:46.33Inc`Stuff that made me want to gouge my eyes out
21:46.38Limberolol
21:46.45Limberobrb cough drop
21:46.48Inc`Never underestimate a crappy programmer with a somewhat convoluted language
21:46.56malikeyeindeed it does
21:47.04dragon2041"we are powerless!"
21:47.06dragon2041no?
21:47.23dragon2041not ringing any bells?
21:47.23dragon2041QQ
21:47.59dragon2041what
21:47.59dragon2041what just happened?
21:47.59LimberoInc`: how long have you been programming for?
21:48.22malikeyemost developers I know, are idiots
21:48.29Inc`Hrm
21:48.30malikeyeregardless of language
21:48.44Inc`About 8 years
21:48.54Limberowhich means, from age ??
21:48.58Inc`14
21:49.11malikeyeand this is in a "professional" environment
21:49.12Limberothen I'm not a hopeless case after all
21:49.23Limberomalikeye, doesn't surprise me the least
21:49.34ArkaenOh mna
21:49.36Arkaenman
21:49.37Limberowait, idiots as in douchebags or as in stupid?
21:49.38Inc`Started with PHP, then got Java training in HS (2 AP classes), then I've been doing enterprise dev for about 3 years
21:49.43ArkaenThis is so addictive
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21:49.52dragon2041hello corgan
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21:50.00dragon2041hm
21:50.04Limberowb Raws
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21:50.05dragon2041wants to go to MIT.
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21:50.14ArkaenChain log-ins
21:50.17NerkelI was learning Ruby for a bit there
21:50.18malikeyegood luck with MIT
21:50.31dragon2041thank you
21:50.35Inc`90% of my experience is with web technologies
21:50.37malikeyeyou'll pay a bazillion dollars for nothing
21:50.38Rawsfreenode keeled me
21:50.47dragon2041what
21:50.48Rawswat
21:50.49Inc`Raws: Hurry up and write more code to license under the WTFPL >:O
21:50.56RawsYou'll pay a bazillion dollars for MIT on your resumé
21:51.06malikeyewhich means what ?
21:51.06LimberoRaws, oh no they DI'NT!
21:51.11RawsInc`: ok
21:51.21Rawsmalikeye: a lotta money
21:51.32dragon2041MIT is a great school
21:51.32dragon2041with awesome opportunities
21:51.39malikeyeI barely graduated high school, and I bet I have the same type of job as an MIT'er
21:51.40LimberoRaws what uni did you go to?
21:51.47RawsLimbero: I haven't gone to university yet
21:51.51dragon2041what do you do, malik
21:51.52RawsNor am I definitely going to
21:51.53LimberoRaws, oh k
21:52.01malikeyeunless you wanna pioneer shit, which most likelyl, you can't.. you'll go bankrupt
21:52.14dragon2041how so
21:52.19Rawsmalikeye: MIT is just a great place for a burgeoning mind to be
21:52.24Limberomalik are you saying you are bankrupt?
21:52.35malikeyebut what is the return on investment ?
21:52.38dragon2041exactly, raws
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21:52.39Inc`The only real advantage of getting a degree these days is because most HR directors automatically assume anyone without a degree is an idiot
21:52.45RawsBesides the name, you've got an extreme concentration of some of the smartest people on earth within a few blocks
21:52.54Inc`You can pretty much teach yourself everything you need to know through resources on the web
21:53.06LimberoHarvard + MIT = brain 'splosion
21:53.08Rawsmalikeye: if nothing else, networking
21:53.09Inc`Assuming you are dedicated enough
21:53.14Inc`And intelligent enough
21:53.18Limberotrue Inc`
21:53.22RawsI've only done contract work for MIT, and even I have contacts there as a result
21:53.26malikeyeRaws: that is my point.... if you aren't one of "those few", ti's worthless
21:53.36malikeyeerr, it's
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21:53.47RawsAs a full-fledged student, you'd have the opportunity to make hundreds of contacts over your period of study
21:53.56RawsContacts worth more than money
21:54.18RawsNo, it's worth it 100% of the time :-P
21:54.28malikeyemost people equate MIT with fame and fortune
21:54.28RawsYou can't go to a place like that and come away with nothing
21:54.33LimberoAttention everyone: Malgayne is getting a haircut
21:54.35malikeyemost people that come out of MIT are losers
21:54.44RawsLimbero: in-game?
21:54.45Limberotell him he looks great from me the next time he comes on
21:54.50LimberoRaws, IRL I think
21:54.54Limberohe posted it on facebook
21:54.55Rawsboring
21:55.06Rawsmalikeye: I wouldn't make a generalization like that
21:55.22dragon2041malikeye sounds jealous
21:55.24RawsMost people that hang out around MIT are pretty dang interesting
21:55.33malikeyeyeah, well I wouldn't make a generalization about "yankees", but guess what, it happens
21:55.42malikeyeI am far from jealous
21:55.42Rawshuh
21:55.43malikeyethanks
21:56.06RawsI don't quite follow your point there :-P
21:56.07Limberodamn you TecnoBrat, I want new irc stats
21:56.24malikeyeabout generalizations.... they happen, and sometimes they're warranted
21:56.47RawsEr, well, _that_ generalization about generalizations doesn't justify every generalization
21:56.52Rawspelvic thrusts
21:56.55malikeyeI'm not saying don't go... I'm saying, weight the value of your dollar spent
21:57.01RawsOf course
21:57.02dragon2041i don't spend money
21:57.26RawsBut the value of your dollar at MIT is pretty good
21:57.43Arkaen~raws
21:57.43infobotACTION pelvic thrusts in all directions at once
21:57.51RawsI mean, you can even leech off of it for free just by hanging out on campus
21:57.56malikeyeI beg to differ, I view the value of most higher learning establishments as pretty low
21:58.00Limberois there anything you can do to get an abandoned gmail address?
21:58.03Inc`New sport: Synchronized underwater pelvic thrusting
21:58.08Limberolol
21:58.12RawsTalk to a few random people on the street, and you'll make some interesting friends
21:58.21malikeyeagreed
21:58.23ArkaenInc`: That'll be on Wii Sports Resort 2 I bet
21:58.28malikeyebut that costs you $0
21:58.31Limberolol ark
21:58.32malikeye:)
21:58.54ArkaenREMEMBER KIDS
21:58.57ArkaenLimbero's mother.
21:59.02LimberoOH SNAP
21:59.04RawsTalk to a few random professors and fellow students inside the school, and you'll make some even more interesting friends :-P
21:59.11BlackNetwohoo asthma meds kicking in finally
21:59.17ArkaenBUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE
21:59.17malikeyeis that worth $100k ?
21:59.20LimberoTalk to me, get a pretty uninteresting friend.
21:59.44ArkaenFOR THE LOW LOW PRICE OF 10000000$, YOU CAN GET NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT THREEEEE FRIENDS WHO WILL BUILD YOU A ROBOT ARMY
21:59.45dragon2041malik, it's 200k
21:59.52Limberolol arkaen
21:59.53malikeyeI could get you into my workplace, with zero education, if you seriously wanted it
22:00.01dragon2041what is your workplace
22:00.06Limberomalik, I seriously want that
22:00.10malikeyenone of your fucking business
22:00.11Limberono matter what you work with
22:00.12Arkaenmalikeye: I want to get into your workplace
22:00.13Arkaen8P
22:00.20RawsAlso malikeye, as someone who, like you, doesn't really plan on embarking on any sort of higher ed past what I already have (high school), I'm speaking from personal experience working at and around the actual school
22:00.21LimberoArkaen: beat you to it
22:01.30ArkaenYou want it in another way
22:01.31ArkaenI was making a sex joke
22:01.31Arkaenso nyah.
22:01.31Limberolol
22:01.31LimberoRaws, what do you work with?
22:01.31malikeyeI only have high schoool
22:01.31RawsSame
22:01.31malikeyebarely
22:01.31ArkaenMan
22:01.31ArkaenYou people are inspirations for me to not go to college
22:01.31RawsLimbero: I'm in a few different industries
22:01.31Limberothat tells me this much (pinches thumb and index finger together)
22:01.43malikeyeI make a pretty good salary as well
22:01.45RawsMedia production, museum master planning, corporate technical consulting, web dev
22:01.45Inc`Arkaen: lol
22:01.50Arkaen:D
22:01.58LimberoRaws, cool
22:02.05Arkaenmalikeye: What $/hr?
22:02.06Rawsmuch, I love my work
22:02.07ArkaenI am curious
22:02.09Arkaen:3
22:02.30dragon2041so malik, if you're not willing to tlel us where you work, how do we know it' sgood?
22:02.34ArkaenRaws is a true 'MERICAN!! multi-tasker.
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22:02.53Limberothat's the kind of stuff I'd like to work with, but I could never do it, I'm not inventive enough to do anything creative
22:03.03malikeyemany people here know where I work, and it's legit
22:03.04RawsThe only difference between malikeye and myself is that he has a job, and I make them \o/
22:03.09Limberolol
22:03.19ArkaenAnd that your name is Raws and his is malikeye
22:03.23ArkaenUNLESS YOU ARE CLONES
22:03.23Rawswelp
22:03.26Arkaenwiht the same name
22:03.30RawsMaybe
22:03.31NerkelMake me a job Raws
22:03.32Nerkel):
22:03.35Inc`And that Raws is a master of pelvic thrusts?
22:03.42RawsNerkel: show me yo skills
22:03.44RawsInc`: always
22:03.52LimberoRaws, make me a job too
22:03.57LimberoI want to be nerkel's boss
22:03.58NerkelDon't have any skills
22:04.05RawsLimbero: show me yo personality
22:04.11LimberoRAWR!
22:04.17Skyfirepeople who bump necros make me facepalm.
22:04.22SkyfireAlso, bai!
22:04.24ArkaenRaws: Make me a job! My skills involve yelling into microphones, watching TV, playing WoW, reading, and occasionally writing! I'm also hilarious hurrrpp.
22:04.30Limberobai sky
22:04.35ArkaenSky2042_afk: Nuuu
22:04.43malikeyeanyways, my ultimate point is, education is overrated...
22:04.50Inc`Raws: Sounds like you would be a great sports caster
22:04.51Limberomalikeye, yes and no
22:04.52Inc`Er
22:04.55Inc`Arkaen even
22:04.56malikeyewhether you get contacts or whatever, that doesn't equate to an education
22:05.03ArkaenOh man, that's awesome Inc`
22:05.23Rawslol
22:05.36ArkaenMan
22:05.38Inc`Experience > Education
22:05.40ArkaenI'm such a lazy son of a bitch
22:05.45Limberomalikeye: just because MIT isn't worth the money to you that doesn't mean education in general is overrated
22:05.47ArkaenI've been putting off learning Ruby forever now
22:05.54malikeyeI can shmooze with with people too, and ultimately I could probably get a raise out of it, but does that really mean my "education" payed out ?
22:05.57Sky2042_afk(MIT is expensive)
22:06.11malikeyethis isn't about MIT
22:06.19LimberoSky2042_afk: (yes)
22:06.24Arkaenmalikeye: I'm probably only going to go to college if I get a relatively large scholarship
22:06.37malikeyego for it... more power to you
22:06.44malikeyeyou might succeed
22:06.45LimberoI will need a full scholarship if I'm gonna go to college in the US
22:06.45NerkelHm
22:06.50malikeyebut look at the statistics
22:07.07NerkelYou guys know those late night TV ads
22:07.12malikeyeam I jaded cause I misses all the parties, fuck yeah :D
22:07.13ArkaenThing is, my parents are both fairly late in life, and I don't want to have them have to pay a shitton for what isn't a very high input:gain
22:07.14Nerkel"Apply to college online, be an IT guru!"
22:07.17NerkelWhat does that exactly mean
22:07.31ArkaenIt means that if you use the internet you are an IT guy
22:07.38ArkaenCause it's that easy!
22:07.41Inc`Generally, they are ads for online classes for tech schools
22:07.41Arkaenrolls his eyes.
22:07.54malikeyeArkaen: make them pay, they brough your fucking ass into this world
22:07.59NerkelInc`, Not really that
22:08.07NerkelIts hard for me to explain things at times
22:08.31Limberothe a-team themesong rocks
22:08.36Arkaenmalikeye, my brother dropped out after they payed for a semester
22:08.41LimberoI've been listening to it on repeat all day
22:08.42Arkaen-$15k~
22:08.49Limbero:O
22:08.52Limberobad move
22:08.54malikeyestop making my point :)
22:09.20Limberoin soviet russia (sweden) college is free (more or less)
22:09.31robotuschlol
22:09.38robotuschnot a bad run that
22:09.42Sky2042_afkLimbero: You also pay a 25% greater tax.
22:09.44malikeyeI can't wait for cap and trade
22:09.46Sky2042_afk>.>
22:09.48malikeyeI am gonna get taxed a lot
22:09.51robotuscha pristine black diamond, two libram of protection and two shackle keys :D
22:09.52LimberoSky2042_afk: no, my parents do
22:09.53NerkelNothing is free
22:09.53malikeyecause I fart all the time
22:10.00Sky2042_afkLimbero: Touche
22:10.03LimberoI will go to college and then move the hell out of here
22:10.47malikeyeI think the college experience is worth it... but, it's a fact, that most people take nothing away in the form of education, from college
22:10.53ArkaenRaws: The annoying part of just starting off for me is that I can't really get motivated if I'm unable to get really anything from it, even on a minuscule scale
22:10.57LimberoNerkel, yeah there are free things, gravel in small amounts for example
22:11.16NerkelUntil someone tells you that you're stealing private property ):
22:11.26LimberoNerkel, not in sweden
22:11.37Limberoin sweden you can take gravel from public areas
22:11.38malikeye"most"
22:12.20Limberodammit
22:12.32LimberoI need someone to mix the superman theme together with the a team theme
22:13.06malikeyedominos or papa johns ?
22:13.22dragon2041guess who's back
22:13.22Limbero?
22:14.32malikeyeI am so sick of the "yankee" crap that happens down here
22:14.36Limberowhat is the most famous lord of the rings theme called?
22:14.40LimberoI can't find it
22:14.46malikeyeI am gonna move North as soon as possible, and then send nuclear missles
22:14.46Limberoit isn't the fellowship theme
22:14.53Limberoand not according to hobbits
22:15.38Limberoit's the one that goes "DUN DADA DUN DADA DUN! DADA DUN, DADA DUN, DADA DUN!" for 90% of the time
22:19.53dragon2041from which movie
22:24.22Limbero(23:14:35) Limbero: what is the most famous lord of the rings theme called?
22:24.42malikeyedamn, I wish I went to MIT
22:24.43malikeye:P
22:25.29malikeyeI do know somebody that went to MIT, and I haven't heard from him since, so I guess he must have sprouted wings
22:25.54malikeyepizza on it's way, yay dawg
22:28.49Rawsunf
22:29.29dragon2041if you'd gone to MIT, you could have MADE pizza
22:29.31dragon2041lol
22:30.10Raws~ib
22:30.14Rawswtf
22:30.27Rawsinfobot, ib is <reply>ice burn
22:30.28infobotRaws: okay
22:30.33Raws~ib
22:30.34infobotice burn
22:30.40Raws/mode #wowhead -c
22:31.09malikeyeone thing that college does benefit you, is that you get the opportunity to intern
22:31.09Wardwhat should I ask for a Primordial Saronite?
22:31.15dragon2041raws is an op?
22:31.15malikeyewe only hire interns, for the most part
22:31.21malikeyeco-ops
22:31.31dragon2041infobot, awesome is <reply>awesome
22:31.32infobot...but awesome is already something else...
22:31.37dragon2041say lol
22:31.40dragon2041~awesome
22:31.41infobotrumour has it, awesome is a synonym of cheese.
22:31.55dragon2041infobot, dragon2041 is <reply>who said the name of my master?
22:31.57infobotokay, dragon2041
22:32.02dragon2041~dragon2041
22:32.02infobotwho said the name of my master?
22:32.05dragon2041teehee
22:32.15RawsAnd so begins the infobot abuse
22:32.22dragon2041ol
22:34.11Limberoquick question
22:34.21LimberoIf I play black jack alone against the dealer
22:34.30Limberocan he keep taking cards after I stop taking cards?
22:34.45malikeyeit is casino policy to stop at a certain point
22:34.51Arkaeninfobot, forget dragon2041
22:34.51infoboti forgot dragon2041, Arkaen
22:34.52Limberomalikeye I know that
22:35.05dragon2041wow arkaen
22:35.11dragon2041infobot, hate arkaen
22:35.12infobotHey dragon2041, ,,|,
22:35.18Arkaenrofl
22:35.23Arkaenyou just got told by a bot, sir
22:35.27Limberopwnt
22:35.31dragon2041infobot, <reply>I hate arkaen
22:35.34dragon2041lol
22:35.39Raws~whaleslap dragon2041
22:35.40infobotACTION beats dragon2041 upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
22:35.47Arkaenrofl
22:35.51ArkaenRaws, I am remembering that
22:35.54Limberomalikeye, can the dealer keep taking cards even if I have stopped taking cards?
22:35.59dragon2041infobot, arkaen is <reply>who said the name of the stupidest person here?
22:36.01infobot...but arkaen is already something else...
22:36.04Limberolet's say I get two jacks from the start
22:36.04Arkaen~lart dragon2041
22:36.04infobotstrangles dragon2041 with a doohicky mouse cord
22:36.09dragon2041~arkaen
22:36.09infobotrumour has it, arkaen is a CHAMPION OF NEWERTH; The Slender Man; A Lie; Cake; Protection Warrior; Aloja; Unintentional Comedian; Honor student; Egomaniac; Megalomaniac; Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Worlds; FOUR HUNDRED BABIES; Cheesecake Enthusiast.
22:36.09malikeyeI don't think that matters
22:36.13dragon2041infobot, forget arkaen
22:36.13infoboti forgot arkaen, dragon2041
22:36.17Rawsfff
22:36.18ArkaenFuck you sir
22:36.18malikeyehe/she needs to stop at 13
22:36.20malikeyeI think
22:36.22dragon2041you did it to me
22:36.26Limbero~whalenuke dragon2041
22:36.27infobotACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around dragon2041 with his mind powers.
22:36.27Arkaeninfobot, arkaen is multitudes better than dragon2041
22:36.28infobotArkaen: okay
22:36.43Limberoinfobot, ignore dragon2041
22:36.44infobotACTION sticks her fingers in her ears.  "La, la, la!  I can't hear you, dragon2041!"
22:36.50dragon2041wtf
22:36.54ArkaenI wonder how infobot knows so many whales though.
22:37.03dragon2041seirously?
22:37.08dragon2041why would they make that a command anyone can do
22:37.13dragon2041infobot, forget dragon2041
22:37.13infobotdragon2041: i didn't have anything called 'dragon2041' to forget
22:37.16dragon2041phew
22:37.17Arkaendragon2041, you're dumb
22:37.18dragon2041nvm
22:37.19ArkaenReally
22:37.20Limberodammit
22:37.20dragon2041lol
22:37.23Limberoyou almost bought it
22:37.26dragon2041infobot, arkaen is stupid
22:37.27infobot...but arkaen is already something else...
22:37.31*** join/#wowhead tornd_ (n=trond@128.11.202.84.customer.cdi.no)
22:37.32dragon2041>:(
22:37.34dragon2041infobot, forget arkaen
22:37.35infobotdragon2041: i forgot arkaen
22:37.37dragon2041infobot, arkaen is stupid
22:37.38infobotokay, dragon2041
22:37.38Limbero~Limbero
22:37.39infobotsomebody said limbero was Lossy Image Mode Bares Ego-Raising Ordinance, or a bacon lover, or not too smart with infobot
22:37.39Arkaeninfobot, dragon2041 is an egomaniac
22:37.40infobotokay, Arkaen
22:37.40dragon2041say lol
22:37.54dragon2041say we can stop this anytime you're willing to
22:37.55Arkaenno, infobot, arkaen is a CHAMPION OF NEWERTH; The Slender Man; A Lie; Cake; Protection Warrior; Aloja; Unintentional Comedian; Honor student; Egomaniac; Megalomaniac; Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Worlds; FOUR HUNDRED BABIES; Cheesecake Enthusiast.
22:37.57dragon2041you started the fire!
22:38.03dragon2041~arkaen
22:38.04infobotwell, arkaen is stupid
22:38.08Arkaenlame
22:38.14dragon2041say teehee
22:38.24Limbero~rape dragon 2041
22:38.25infobotACTION takes dragon 2041 behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams
22:38.27dragon2041infobot, plead is <reply>can we please end this? it's boring
22:38.28infobot...but plead is already something else...
22:38.32dragon2041say dangit
22:38.33Arkaen~plead
22:38.34infobotACTION pleads with arkaen
22:38.40Arkaenlol.
22:38.45dragon2041wanna end this?
22:38.48dragon2041you can change yours back
22:38.52ArkaenANYWAYS, you fuckers are making infobot lag. You're the one not ending this, retard
22:38.53dragon2041and i'll chang emine back
22:38.56dragon2041um
22:39.00dragon2041you're hte one who started it
22:39.02dragon2041by making infobot forget me
22:39.10LimberoArkaen, let's bring out the big guns
22:39.14ArkaenYou're the one that has to be a retarded egomaniac
22:39.20dragon2041and you're not?
22:39.26ArkaenI'm not retarded, for certain.
22:39.34dragon2041"A CHAMPION, A LIE, CAKE, COMEDIAN, EGOMANIAC, DESTROYER OF WORLDS"
22:39.41ArkaenYep.
22:39.41Limberoinfobot, dragon2041 is also destroying this channel
22:39.42infobotokay, Limbero
22:39.42dragon2041jeez
22:39.44dragon2041i wonder why i talk to yo uguys
22:39.48Limberowe do too
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22:39.53ArkaenBecause you're a masochist, dragon2041
22:40.01dragon2041i really should associate with less asses
22:40.04dragon2041it's bad for me
22:40.12ArkaenYou should really associate with more of your own little retarded folk
22:40.14Limberoyou're quite the jerk yourself
22:40.22dragon2041limbero
22:40.25dragon2041explain, please
22:40.27dragon2041tell me how i'm a jekr
22:40.34dragon2041and i'll never speak to you again
22:40.43Limberohang on
22:41.08Juippisoo cat fight
22:41.13malikeyethe door is behind /leave
22:41.16Limberoyou spammed the channel when I tried to get them to help me
22:41.22JuippisZicon: grab some popcorn, it's on
22:41.29Limberoofftopic, let's all do /disco
22:41.37dragon2041limbero
22:41.38dragon2041with the theme?
22:41.43dragon2041i asked you which movie it was form
22:41.44dragon2041i tried to help you
22:41.45Limberono
22:41.47Limberonot that
22:41.47dragon2041everyone obviously didn't know the answer
22:41.50dragon2041then what help
22:41.55Limberowith the black jack question
22:42.01ArkaenMaaaan. You people are worse than I am
22:42.03dragon2041point out to me where yo usaid "dragon, can you please stop, i'm trying to ask forhelp"
22:42.13LimberoI shouldn't need to
22:42.18Arkaendragon2041, point out where you have the rights to spam out people's questions
22:42.27Limberothank you arkaen
22:42.28dragon2041loooool
22:42.41ArkaenYou immature little fuckwit
22:42.41dragon2041this is good
22:42.41dragon2041this is reaaaaaaaaally good
22:42.41Limberotake over while I do some more coding will you?
22:42.41ArkaenSure thing.
22:42.46dragon2041only 4 of the posts
22:42.48dragon2041in the same page as your question
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22:42.50dragon2041were from me
22:42.59malikeyeomfg sammie is hawt
22:43.07Arkaenmalikeye: the girl from the link yesterday?
22:43.08dragon2041the rest were: arkaen and you
22:43.10dragon2041oh and raws
22:43.13malikeyeyes
22:43.17ArkaenYes, I agree
22:43.20dragon2041you spammed out oyhur own question more than i did :D
22:43.32ArkaenAnyways dragon2041, you're a terrible troll
22:43.33dragon2041also, i know the answer to your question
22:43.34Arkaen0/10
22:43.35dragon2041too bad you're not a nice person
22:43.38dragon2041thank you
22:43.40dragon2041tha tmeans a lot
22:43.46dragon2041really, because it means i'm not a troll
22:43.50ArkaenNot really
22:43.57dragon2041yep
22:43.59ArkaenYou act like a troll, very obviously
22:44.06ArkaenYou're worse than the wow general board
22:44.08Arkaenrofl
22:44.08dragon2041if i'm 0/10, 0 divided by 10 = 0
22:44.10dragon2041therefore i'm 0 troll
22:44.20ArkaenYour logic is also worse than theirs
22:44.35dragon2041sweet, i can ignore people
22:44.40Arkaenrofl.
22:44.43Limbero0/10 can also mean zero out of ten
22:44.44ArkaenGary13579: Look at that pro
22:44.49Limberoand I'm back in the game
22:44.53dragon2041and zero out of 10 is zero
22:45.07*** join/#wowhead kadrahil (n=kad@xor.pablotron.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
22:45.07Limberowhich is bad
22:45.12Limberowhich doesn't mean negative
22:45.31Limbero-1 * troll != 0/10 troll
22:46.00ArkaenHe's 0/10 in: Intelligence, Maturity, Reading Comprehension, Basic Literal Skills, Typing Ability, Name Originality, Trollin' Skill, etc.
22:46.03dragon2041but 0 troll = 0 troll
22:46.20ArkaenHe's also .01/10 at math
22:46.25Limberodoesn't matter
22:46.26Juippisguys, srsly, http://plig.org/things/pictures/tn/arguing.med.jpg
22:46.42Limberolol Juippis
22:46.45ArkaenJuippis: Who's arguing?
22:46.52ArkaenI'm typing random bullshit between pulls
22:46.54ArkaenxD
22:46.56dragon2041<3
22:47.00JuippisI'm not falling for that, Arkaen
22:47.10ArkaenJuippis: Have fun then
22:47.10Limberono dragon2041, not at all <3
22:47.18Limberomore like </3
22:47.23dragon2041i was <3ing Juippis
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22:47.36Limberonvm
22:47.36ArkaenJuippis: To be honest, I've hated dragon2041 for several months now, so I have nothing better to do than hate on him
22:47.53Arkaeninfobot, forget dragon2041
22:47.53infoboti forgot dragon2041, Arkaen
22:47.56Limberobtw I'm ignoring you from now on, I've got homework to do and I don't have time for irc
22:47.58Arkaeninfobot, forget Arkaen
22:47.58infoboti forgot arkaen, Arkaen
22:48.15Arkaeninfobot, Arkaen is a CHAMPION OF NEWERTH; The Slender Man; A Lie; Cake; Protection Warrior; Aloja; Unintentional Comedian; Honor student; Egomaniac; Megalomaniac; Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Worlds; FOUR HUNDRED BABIES; Cheesecake Enthusiast.
22:48.16infobotokay, Arkaen
22:48.17dragon2041thank you arkaen
22:48.19dragon2041even though i can't see you
22:48.21dragon2041oh crap
22:48.22dragon2041yo'ure doing it again
22:48.24dragon2041seriously?
22:48.26dragon2041you're that petty?
22:48.30ArkaenJuippis, mind telling him?
22:48.32dragon2041(i can't actually see your responses)
22:48.35ArkaenHe's being petty.
22:48.37dragon2041~dragon2041
22:48.42dragon2041kk, good
22:48.54dragon2041~arkaen
22:48.55infobotarkaen is, like, a CHAMPION OF NEWERTH; The Slender Man; A Lie; Cake; Protection Warrior; Aloja; Unintentional Comedian; Honor student; Egomaniac; Megalomaniac; Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Worlds; FOUR HUNDRED BABIES; Cheesecake Enthusiast.
22:49.02Limbero[AFIRC]lol
22:49.05JuippisArkaen: don't pull me in here! :-D
22:49.09Arkaend'aww
22:49.16Limbero[AFIRC]did dragon just do ~arkaen?
22:49.21Juippisyes
22:49.24dragon2041yeah, to see what he set it to
22:49.24Limbero[AFIRC]because that came out of the blue for me :P
22:49.26Limbero[AFIRC]anyways
22:49.30Limbero[AFIRC]away from irc
22:49.38dragon2041infobot, dragon2041 is <reply>Hey, who said the name of a pretty awesome chap?
22:49.39infobotdragon2041: okay
22:49.48dragon2041there, we're all happy
22:50.00Limbero[AFIRC]~limbero
22:50.01infobothmm... limbero is Lossy Image Mode Bares Ego-Raising Ordinance, or a bacon lover, or not too smart with infobot
22:50.06Limbero[AFIRC]good
22:50.19Limbero[AFIRC]I was afraid he had infobot forget me
22:50.22Arkaenlol
22:50.27ArkaenHe's immature enough
22:50.30Limbero[AFIRC]away from irc for real now
22:50.41dragon2041infobot, pleaseunignoremelimbero is <reply>Dude, why ignore me?
22:50.43infobotdragon2041: okay
22:50.45dragon2041~pleaseunignoremelimbero
22:50.46infobotDude, why ignore me?
22:50.47dragon2041say kk i'm done now
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22:50.58Limbero[AFIRC](23:47:55) Limbero: btw I'm ignoring you from now on, I've got homework to do and I don't have time for irc
22:56.47Arkaeninfobot, Imyours is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErMWX--UJZ4
22:56.48infobotArkaen: okay
22:57.04[NaL]infobot, eat Arkaen
22:57.05infobotThat's too disgusting.
22:57.16Arkaen~lart [NaL]
22:57.16infobotreadies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at [NaL]
22:57.30[NaL]infobot, drink Arkaen
22:57.31infobotdrinks Arkaen in one swig, turns blue, green, and ultraviolet, and then vomits Arkaen across the room
22:57.35dragon2041~dragon2041
22:57.35infobotHey, who said the name of a pretty awesome chap?
22:57.50Arkaeninfobot, dragon2041 is also paranoid
22:57.51infobotArkaen: okay
22:57.54Arkaen8^D
22:58.00[NaL]~dragon2041
22:58.01infobotHey, who said the name of a pretty awesome chap?, or paranoid
22:58.05[NaL]...
22:58.15dragon2041...
22:58.15dragon2041who changed it to Or Paranoid
22:58.16[NaL]so awkward
22:58.17Arkaenepic format
22:58.18dragon2041seriously, Arkaen?
22:58.22[NaL]~arkaen
22:58.23infobothmm... arkaen is a CHAMPION OF NEWERTH; The Slender Man; A Lie; Cake; Protection Warrior; Aloja; Unintentional Comedian; Honor student; Egomaniac; Megalomaniac; Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Worlds; FOUR HUNDRED BABIES; Cheesecake Enthusiast.
22:58.28dragon2041infobot, forget dragon2041
22:58.28infoboti forgot dragon2041, dragon2041
22:58.35dragon2041infobot, dragon2041 is <reply>who said the name of a pretty awesome chap?
22:58.37infobotdragon2041: okay
22:58.45Arkaen[NaL] See what the prissy little bitch has been complaining about?"
22:58.50[NaL]infobot, arkaen is also a toilet specialist
22:58.51infobot[NaL]: okay
22:59.05Arkaeninfobot, [NaL] is also bob the builder.
22:59.06infobotokay, Arkaen
22:59.19[NaL]~[NaL]
22:59.19infobotsomebody said [nal] was bob the builder.
22:59.21HerrickInfobot, who is a toilet?
22:59.23infobotHerrick: I think you lost me on that one
22:59.24[NaL]Huh
22:59.34Arkaen~toilet
22:59.35infobotwell, toilet is not here
22:59.40dragon2041~arkaen
22:59.40infobotrumour has it, arkaen is a CHAMPION OF NEWERTH; The Slender Man; A Lie; Cake; Protection Warrior; Aloja; Unintentional Comedian; Honor student; Egomaniac; Megalomaniac; Zin'Rokh, Destroyer of Worlds; FOUR HUNDRED BABIES; Cheesecake Enthusiast. a toilet specialist
22:59.58[NaL]attempts to run Herrick over with a trolly
23:00.00ArkaenMaaan
23:00.04HerrickInfobot, will you become self aware like Skynet?
23:00.06Arkaendragon2041 loves to read about me
23:00.08Arkaen:D
23:00.25Arkaen~imyours
23:00.26infoboti guess imyours is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErMWX--UJZ4
23:01.04dragon2041infobot, sunglasses is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9p0Ac5bLlI&feature=related
23:01.05infobotdragon2041: okay
23:01.07dragon2041~sunglasses
23:01.08infobotfrom memory, sunglasses is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9p0Ac5bLlI&feature=related
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23:02.33dragon2041hmm
23:03.18[NaL]stabs Arkaen with a dragon2041
23:03.31dragon2041lol
23:03.43Arkaenarkaens [NaL] with an Arkaen Dagger of the Arkaenist.
23:05.23ArkaenTime to get 10 more emblems for my ring
23:05.31Arkaens/10/20/
23:05.49dragon2041that's useful
23:06.10Arkaens/Time to get 10 more emblems for my ring/Indeed it is
23:06.14Arkaenawww
23:06.16ArkaenD:
23:06.22Arkaens/D:/Indeed/
23:07.29dragon2041dragon owns
23:07.29dragon2041s/owns/is okay
23:07.29dragon2041s/owns/is okay/
23:07.30dragon2041:(
23:07.31dragon2041time to be awesome
23:07.34dragon2041oh
23:07.35dragon2041that was laggy
23:09.48Limbero[AFIRC]~koren
23:09.55Limbero[AFIRC]~seen koren
23:09.58infobotkoren <i=615f26db@gateway/web/freenode/x-uuqymueommgdxmhx> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 27d 2h 11m 19s ago, saying: 'Better yet, help a bunch of people and leave'.
23:10.08Limbero[AFIRC]~seen ikoren
23:10.09infobotikoren <n=ikoren@12.18.10.143> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 36d 5h 12m 45s ago, saying: 'Noxy: How's the guild doing?'.
23:10.17Limbero[AFIRC]~seen dogel
23:10.18infobotdogel <n=chatzill@c-67-160-120-196.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 7d 23h 40m 42s ago, saying: '?? why am I dogel'.
23:10.29Limbero[AFIRC]interesting
23:10.33Limbero[AFIRC]night all
23:10.38Juippisciao
23:11.25dragon2041~seen dragon2041
23:11.26infobotdragon2041 is currently on #wowhead (1h 26m 28s). Has said a total of 148 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen dragon2041'.
23:11.50BlackNetlol that's just to funny.
23:11.56BlackNetjust got the friend or fowl
23:12.58Arkaen~lart dragon2041
23:12.58infobotblames dragon2041 for all the evil in the world
23:14.26dragon2041time for homework
23:14.42Sky2042_afksigh.
23:14.47Sky2042_afkArkaen: Quit being and idiot.
23:15.04ArkaenWhy me?
23:15.10Sky2042_afkYou and him both.
23:15.36ArkaenYet you single me out.
23:15.43ArkaenSure thing, that'll work
23:15.44Sky2042_afkNo, I single you out because he's gone.
23:16.06Djanedivides Arkaen by zero
23:16.56ArkaenI can't be assed to care, Sky2042_afk
23:16.59ArkaenI'm doing heroics
23:17.16ArkaenFocusing on that drivel was a detriment enough :<
23:17.19Sky2042_afkArkaen: Don't be assed to. Just don't be an idiot next time and life will be good.
23:17.33ArkaenOkay, then don't let him make the bot his "subject" then
23:17.51Sky2042_afkHe can do whatever he wants to with his name. Just as you can do anything with your name.
23:18.45ArkaenOkay then. Let him increase his epeen, cause god knows he needs it
23:19.00Sky2042_afkArkaen: You're caring too much. Really.
23:19.16ArkaenLet me be quite frank: I've had a blasting headache, near on debilitating all day long, and I'm easily pissed off at this point
23:19.21*** join/#wowhead BiggieSmalls (n=IceChat7@ool-18bcd905.dyn.optonline.net)
23:19.49ArkaenBut I'll drop it, for now, since you seem to be afk.
23:20.00Sky2042_afkchuckles at Arkaen.
23:20.04BiggieSmallshttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Gurubashi&n=Jammasterjay I love my new priest
23:20.06BiggieSmallshow's the gear on it
23:20.09BiggieSmallsI bought the greens
23:20.16BiggieSmallsfor no more than 3g
23:20.26NerkelI wouldn't focus on buying greens
23:20.42BiggieSmallslook at the level
23:20.44NerkelEven if they are cheap, few are worth it and last long enough to matter ;p
23:20.57BiggieSmallsthat's where I still shine
23:21.04BiggieSmallshe happens to be an enchanter
23:21.24BiggieSmallsso once they are replaced
23:21.27BiggieSmallsI just de it
23:22.10BiggieSmallsI'm having no trouble with him leveling up at all
23:22.15BiggieSmallsI even soloed an elite
23:22.19BiggieSmallswith relative ease
23:22.29Sky2042_afkElitez are easy these days.
23:22.50Juippisare there elites these days?
23:22.54NerkelBack in my day, it took a 40 man raid to kill lv 10 elites
23:22.55BiggieSmallsnot dungeon elites
23:22.56BiggieSmallslol
23:23.00Nerkel./getofflawn
23:23.01ArkaenWhat Nerkel said
23:23.13BiggieSmallsarkaen
23:23.18BiggieSmallsdid you get any gear
23:23.20Juippisis hogger still an elite?
23:23.22BiggieSmallsyes
23:23.27BiggieSmalls666 health
23:23.28NerkelHogger is still an elite
23:23.31ArkaenT9 equiv shoulders Biggie
23:23.35BiggieSmallsnice
23:23.36Juippissome things never change :-)
23:23.37BiggieSmallsme too
23:23.38NerkelHalf the mobs over in Loch Modan are no longer elites though
23:23.40NerkelLike that bear
23:23.41Nerkel):
23:23.53Arkaen:(
23:23.57NerkelThatbear used to mercilessly kill people on that quest or people passing by
23:23.59BiggieSmallsI have t9 shoulders battlegear and plate
23:24.07BiggieSmallst9 glove battlegear
23:24.13BiggieSmallsilevel245 ring
23:24.26BiggieSmallsand next is my 50 triumph trinket
23:24.53JuippisNerkel: haha aye
23:24.55Juippisgood memories
23:25.02Juippissadly not many people can experience that anymore
23:25.09NerkelAnd now all the mobs in the level 1-5 zones
23:25.13Nerkelare now neutral
23:25.19Juippiswhat? :-D
23:25.21Juippishahhah
23:25.32NerkelI remember leveling a dwarf hunter and having to fight off the whole encampment of trolls
23:27.16Arkaenlol Nerkel
23:27.47NerkelAnyone else noticing the glitch where
23:27.59NerkelIf you kill a mob, a few seconds later it'll replay its death animation
23:27.59Nerkel?
23:28.51ArkaenSky2042_afk needs to assemble a choir. And sing good music, unlike most choirs. :O
23:29.03NerkelI like Gregorian Chant
23:29.07Sky2042_afkArkaen: wut?
23:29.15Sky2042_afkNerkel: I do too.
23:29.24ArkaenNerkel: It gets sick if that's all you sing that's good
23:29.38Nerkelo-o
23:30.46NerkelI suppose Ark
23:30.47Nerkel;p
23:32.29BiggieSmallsnerkel
23:32.36NerkelHm?
23:32.37BiggieSmallsI have noticed that a multitude of times
23:32.48BiggieSmalls3.3lag?
23:32.58Nerkeloh, the glitch
23:33.03NerkelYeah, I suppose so
23:33.19NerkelI also found an amusing glitch on how to tame bears that stay perm. Sniffing the ground
23:33.26BiggieSmalls<PROTECTED>
23:33.41BiggieSmallsI'd ask how but playing on my priest is more fun
23:33.45Nerkel;p
23:33.48NerkelIts nothing complicated
23:33.59NerkelYou tame the bears in Grizzly hills that are in their fishing animation
23:34.21Nerkeland when they run to your side tamed, they've still got their paws over their head and their nose buried in the ground
23:35.54ArkaenNice
23:36.08robotuschxD
23:36.32NerkelBut I'll stick with Asbjorn <3
23:38.33NerkelThough, Im tired of getting whispered about my spirit bear 24/7 ):
23:40.01robotusch:(
23:41.34NerkelCan I make a macro that would answer it?
23:42.32robotuschjust make a dnd message :D
23:42.55robotusch/dnd His name is Asbjorn. He's a baer.
23:43.19Nerkellol
23:43.28NerkelAsbjorn is.. nordic? I think for Divine Bear
23:44.40ecsmisha is russian for bear
23:45.39robotuschIn nordic mythology, the Æsir (As in Danish) was the Good gods
23:48.20Rawshttp://grab.by/grabs/b8c49015d901ad9b12206fc2268a2ea1.png
23:50.26Arkaenecs: I wish Misha was russian for bear force one
23:50.28Arkaen:(
23:51.25StarkieI NEED YOUR HELP
23:51.40Starkiemy tauren drood is lv 36, never really had a hordie before him, where should I go to level?
23:51.58BlackNettanaris
23:52.18BlackNetor failwood
23:52.22Starkieisn't that 40+?
23:52.23Starkiehaha
23:52.42DjaneStranglethorn Vale :p
23:52.49Starkienaw, I hate that place on a pvp server
23:52.58StarkieI leveled a paladin and a rogue without going through there, although that was on alliance
23:53.22BlackNetferalas
23:53.47*** join/#wowhead Osagasu (n=Creek@67-197-1-37.rh1.dyn.cm.comporium.net)
23:53.48BlackNetnot failwood
23:53.49fewynfailwood is the 50s
23:53.54fewyni'm doing it right now
23:53.55BlackNetyea my bad
23:54.00Starkieyeah
23:54.01BlackNetknew it was one of those f zones
23:54.04StarkieI was gonna say
23:54.09fewynferalas is what ou miht be thinking of
23:54.11StarkieFeralas? thats 40+ too
23:54.16fewynadds a y and a g
23:54.26fewyni thought it was like 35-45
23:54.29fewynor something
23:54.34Starkienope
23:54.48starspun40+ :<
23:54.52fewynhttp://www.wowwiki.com/Zones_by_level
23:55.04fewynswamp of sorrows
23:55.07BlackNetjust because it's a few levels higher than you does not mean you can go bag stuff there
23:55.07fewyndustwallow
23:55.10Sky2042_afkcheers for fewyn.
23:55.12fewynbadlands
23:55.21BlackNetin fact you will get more exp for stuff there
23:55.21fewynstv
23:55.24fewynany of those 4
23:57.26NerkelWhats Hard mode Auriaya?
23:57.29StarkieIm gonna try Dustwallow and Swamp O Sorrows
23:57.52RawsDustwallow is perfect for 37-40
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23:59.00Starkieawesome
23:59.01hiromatsuwhats up all
23:59.02StarkieIm 36.50
23:59.05JunkHead-WorkHey

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