IRC log for #wowhead on 20100725

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00:31.54DjaneIn spreadsheets what's the syntax for "Add B2 through to B14 of the column together"
00:31.58Corganheh
00:32.01CorganDjane
00:32.31Corgan(sec)
00:33.20Corganruby auth.rb
00:33.20Corgan[02:32:06] Serial: US-1007-2588-0409; Prev: 06055966; Curr: 57843810; Next: 99530809;
00:33.20Corgan[02:32:30] Serial: US-1007-2588-0409; Prev: 57843810; Curr: 99530809; Next: 63101922;
00:33.20Corgan[02:33:00] Serial: US-1007-2588-0409; Prev: 99530809; Curr: 63101922; Next: 65369758;
00:33.24Corgan^_^
00:33.44DjaneWut
00:33.57Corganmobile auth in Ruby
00:34.03DjaneI see.
00:34.19normanoO what is this?
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00:39.34robokittyhops on Corgan and licks
00:40.10robokittyand you've fallen behind, Corgie, someone has already made his/her own mobile auth :P
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00:53.20FuryhunterCorgan, you just... lol.
00:53.49FuryhunterDjane, SUM(B2:B14)
00:55.02starspunAhaha
00:55.11starspunI read that as "SUMBITCH" :(
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00:57.41Furyhunterlol
00:57.52FuryhunterCorgan, is creating your own authenticator key legal?
00:58.50Mowseyhalp my dad is like
00:58.55Mowseywatching dirty blizzcon videos with his friend
00:59.23Furyhunterlol
01:00.38Lopinlol
01:02.42CorganFuryhunter, yes it is
01:02.57CorganIt's not like I can stick in someone else's serial and get the code
01:03.04Furyhunterright
01:03.06Corganthere's a hidden secret key in which the codes are generated
01:03.09Furyhunterhttp://bnetauth.freeportal.us/exampleimpl.html
01:03.15Furyhunterthis is a java implementation
01:03.46Corganhttp://github.com/Adys/python-bna/blob/master/__init__.py
01:03.47Corgan:p
01:03.49CorganPython
01:03.56Corganwhich is what I ported it from
01:04.02Furyhunterhmm
01:04.26Corganwhich was made using the specifications from that Java version's site
01:04.33Corgan(http://bnetauth.freeportal.us/specification.html)
01:04.54CorganI'm still working on figuring out a way to get the secret code from the iPhone version
01:05.01Corganso I can have it on my laptop and phone
01:05.15Corganbut lol apple keychain
01:05.19Corganlolencryption
01:05.25normanhow do you keep the secret code secret? does it connect to battle.net for this part?
01:05.45Corganread the spec
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01:19.57fewyn|awaygod dammnit
01:20.11fewyn|awaymy windows 7 install dvd won't go past 90% (totally legal original retail)
01:20.19fewyn|awayi r upset
01:20.24Molfsontan1fewyn|away: That's what you get for paying.
01:20.26winkget a cracked version :D
01:20.28Molfsontan:P
01:20.32fewyn|awayguess what i am doing wink
01:20.35fewyn|away>_>
01:20.52winkhey, I tried to download the legal MSDNAA one from my uni acc
01:21.09winkafter 6 failed tries with the MSFAIL-downloader I was blocked
01:21.20winkso they had to reactivate my download quota
01:21.29Furyhunterso this is fascinating
01:21.30winkas I had 6 broken or incomplete win7 dvd idos
01:21.37FuryhunterI never knew blizzard was so open about third party authenticators
01:21.40Furyhunterthey barely even care
01:21.47wink?
01:22.03fewyn|awaypc authenticators?
01:22.15Furyhunteryeah
01:22.24fewyn|awayyeah i see no reason to really bother with them, you just need a serial key that isn't in use or copy the one on your authenticator you already have
01:22.24FuryhunterI was thinking of writing a Java midlet to run on my PalmOS-based phone
01:22.38fewyn|awayif users want to do it that way
01:22.42fewyn|awaywhatever floats thier boat
01:22.45FuryhunterOh... you have to get a mobile authenticator from Apple/Google? :\
01:22.49fewyn|awayno
01:22.56fewyn|awayyou can make up your own serial i think
01:22.58fewyn|awayask Corgan
01:23.00FuryhunterOkay
01:23.05FuryhunterThe specification makes it out to look like that
01:23.28winkwhy did I read "Java midget" now?
01:23.37winklike the mechanical turk, just small
01:23.40Furyhunterlmao
01:23.58FuryhunterJava Micro Edition (mobile phones) use class packages called Midlets
01:24.14Furyhunterbasically a more compact version of the typical Application jar or Applet
01:24.50winkyeah I've heard the term in the distant past
01:24.58winkI never did anything for J2ME though
01:25.42Furyhunterroight
01:26.09Furyhunterdepending on what I feel like doing I might just make a java desktop application
01:26.18Furyhunterhave a little tray icon
01:26.24Furyhunterclick it to get the last key
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01:29.35FuryhunterSo I can freely remove a mobile authenticator after registering it, provided I have the access key and authenticator code?
01:29.53g0urrahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDJ7woeAQeI
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01:35.43CorganYou request a serial and secret key from blizzard
01:35.57Corgancodes are calculated from the secret key
01:36.15Corganserial is just a way to identify the secret key
01:39.35Furyhunterand I can remove this at any time right
01:39.42Furyhunterprovided I have the 14-digit serial number and current code
01:39.46Corganyes
01:39.59Corganworks the same as every mobile auth
01:40.03Furyhuntercool
01:40.08Corganie, iphone and android versions
01:40.10FuryhunterI'll play around with this then :P
01:40.42CorganI'll posy the ruby code somewherein a bit
01:41.30Furyhuntercoooooooool
01:41.42starspunTHIS BED, THIS BED, MY KINGDOM FOR THIS BED http://www.etsy.com/listing/18999276/under-the-apple-tree-canopy-bed-modern
01:41.52starspun(frogs included)
01:50.29MolfsontanThat bedroom is beautiful
01:50.32MolfsontanToo bright, though.
01:50.55fewyn|awaysigh
01:51.04fewyn|awayi was cleaning my bookshelf
01:51.08fewyn|awaywhile this download goes
01:51.11fewyn|awayand i'm missing a book
01:51.12fewyn|away:s
01:51.28MolfsontanWas it a book that mattered?
01:51.29fewyn|awaythis is a serious issue!
01:51.38fewyn|awayyes! it's one of my books!
01:51.48MolfsontanDo you know what book?
01:51.51fewyn|awayyes
01:51.53fewyn|awayA Darkness at Sethanon
01:52.02fewyn|awayfinal book in the riftwar saga
01:52.17MolfsontanRAYMOND E. FEIST
01:52.20CorganAlert Twitter
01:52.22MolfsontanThat last name is awesome
01:52.31fewyn|awayi love you too Corgan
01:52.48robokitty|:<
01:54.59PrimarInception was rather good
01:55.09CorganYes
01:57.00MolfsontanPrimar: A lot of people are calling it the best movie of the decade.
01:57.06Primareh
01:57.11Primardunno if I'd go that far
01:57.21fewyn|awayit's the beginning of the decade
01:57.24fewyn|awayso i wouldn't go that far
01:57.53Primaroh, I've never understood whether decades were 0-9 or 1-0
01:57.56Primar./shrug
01:58.00normanthe question is how much money they got for saying this
01:58.01MolfsontanI thought it was 1-0
01:58.01Primarbut yeah, it was really good.
01:58.33MolfsontanSome writers like to point out that since the common calendar starts from the year 1, its first full decade contained the years from 1 to 10, the second decade from 11 to 20, and so on.[6] So while the "1960s" comprises the years 1960 to 1969, the "197th decade" spans 1961 to 1970.
01:58.52nooper_storms look cool on radar http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/index_lite_loop.php
01:59.01starspunGUYS
01:59.06starspunRed, pink, orange, yellow or blue
01:59.08starspun???
01:59.09DjaneSTARSPUNS
01:59.12DjaneYellow
01:59.12MolfsontanPink
01:59.12Primarblue
01:59.20Djane!!!
01:59.21starspunDamn it
01:59.24starspunYou people suck
01:59.30Djanestarspun, do you have open office?
01:59.31starspunBut Djane doesn't so I'll go with yellow
01:59.35starspunYus
01:59.41starspunBEHOLD
01:59.42starspunTOMORROW
01:59.47starspunMY NAILS WILL BE PAINTED YELLOW
01:59.50starspunYEAAHHHHH
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02:01.23PrimarI give it 3 days before the Panda of Regret rears its head
02:01.38Primaroh, nails
02:01.44PrimarI thought you said walls for some reason
02:01.54Primarhow disappointing
02:02.06Djaneit's always nails.
02:02.25starspunLol.
02:02.38robokitty>:|
02:02.39starspunYellow walls would be sweet
02:02.40starspunbut
02:02.49starspunWouldn't fit with the ~decor~ n shit
02:02.50starspun:))
02:02.55starspunMaybe like
02:02.59starspunyellow cabinet doors...
02:03.01starspunHMM
02:03.15Primaryou would walk in and have a sudden overwhelming sense of bananas
02:03.18Primarand/or lemons
02:03.32Primarmaybe blemons
02:03.39starspunLemons
02:03.41starspunBananas suck
02:03.44starspunand they freckle
02:04.59Furyhunterlol I forgot about the core hound pet
02:05.03Furyhunterlooks like I get a free one
02:05.21starspunsrsly I'd get an authenticator just for the corehound
02:05.34fewyn|awayauthenticators are annoying tho
02:05.39fewyn|awayto be brutally honest
02:06.15Stormgaleoffers hugs to everyone
02:06.26starspunYeah
02:06.28robokittycurls up on Djane and ZZzzzz
02:06.29StormgaleI have returned from the Arkham horror
02:06.30starspunPlus I'd probably lose it.
02:06.35Djanealso zzzzs
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02:18.42Rawszzzzs sound good
02:19.37starspunzzzzzzz sound very good
02:19.39starspunnight
02:19.42starspunlol :)))
02:19.47starspunRaws, I lost the quote
02:19.55starspunabout blacks being not only "better" but "faster"
02:20.01RawsGood job >:O
02:20.10starspun:(
02:20.26RawsNow I'm going to have a horrible night's sleep
02:20.27starspunim sry m8
02:20.30starspunu mad???
02:20.31Rawsu bst b
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02:20.50Rawsoui, bien
02:21.06starspunffff
02:21.11starspunim so sorry m8
02:21.13starspunso so sry
02:21.24Rawsg-g-gosh
02:21.28starspunCAN U EVER 4GIEV ME
02:21.38Rawsmay-b
02:21.50RawsIn the meantime, bon soir, mon ami
02:21.55starspunwat i do 2 make it up 2 u :(
02:22.13Rawsuz ur imag1n47un ;;;;;;;))
02:22.20Raws~*~
02:22.26starspuno
02:22.27starspunhotttt
02:22.33starspunlol gnite
02:22.35Rawslllol
02:22.36starspunI WILL THINK OF U
02:22.40Rawssame llol
02:22.41starspun;)))
02:22.47Rawsrides off into the sunset
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02:24.46Limberoshoop de woop
02:24.53Limberome and poe are level 22
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02:25.22fewyn|awaynice
02:30.12Gary|tpLimbero,
02:30.12MolfsontanPoe and I
02:30.15Gary|tpfffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
02:30.24Limbero? :(
02:30.28Gary|tp14 hours to travel roughly 280 miles
02:30.46LimberoD:
02:31.40Limberoalso, danke Molf
02:31.57MolfsontanLol
02:37.17Domh|SleepGrats Limbero.  Now be 80 so you can raid with us :D
02:37.29Limberowe're on our way
02:37.36Limberoquite rapidly if I may say so myself
02:44.23Domh|LaptopYar.  Good stuff
02:44.40DjaneLimbero, Raffing?
02:44.54DjaneAlso, at that level what you should do is get a third party to boost you
02:45.12Limberoyeah
02:45.14Djanewith RAF+boost you'll pull around 5 levels an hour.
02:45.31DjaneAll the way up to 60
02:45.43DjaneIf not more
02:46.01DjaneI raffed my mage from 55 to 60 in 30 minutes.
02:49.10Domh|LaptopHmm.  If I get a chance tomorrow, I'll try to boost you with the shadow priest for a couple levels
02:49.28Domh|LaptopAside from the raid, I have to go look at some places though
02:52.56MowseyDomh|Laptop: what did I miss in raid today
02:53.31Domh|LaptopNot much.  Wiped on fester twice and called it.  Second time at 0.7%.
02:53.36Mowsey:<
02:53.45Djane25man?
02:53.52Mowsey10
02:53.54Mowsey:3
02:53.56Mowseywe r awsm
02:53.57DjaneALSO
02:53.59Domh|LaptopPart of the might have been me playing with my fire spec.  I only realized after my fire spec turns off teh3% dmg buff
02:54.02Djane0.7% == paladin bubble.
02:54.16DjaneDomh, got a retri pally?
02:54.17Domh|LaptopOur pally was holy :p
02:54.21DjaneSo?
02:54.25Domh|LaptopI dunno
02:54.29DjaneDivine shield just before enrage.
02:54.33Domh|LaptopI don't think most of us were in top form today :p
02:54.35DjaneAnd/or iceblock
02:54.42DjaneGives you 10seconds of tics.
02:54.45MowseyI was tired
02:54.55Domh|LaptopHe didn't enrange I don't think.  We just kinda slipped up
02:54.55Mowseythen some electrician came or something
02:54.58Mowseyand no one decided to tell me beforehand
02:55.16DjaneDomh, ahh, k
02:55.19Domh|LaptopOh also, there may be some yelling about that tomorrow Mowsey, so make a macro :p
02:55.31Mowseyabout me sploding?
02:55.34Domh|LaptopYar
02:55.38Mowseyawsm
02:55.52Domh|Laptopwe would have kept going but it was too close to raid end then anyway
02:55.54Djanehey domh, throw me a link to your mage?
02:56.10Domh|Laptopso we went over to the venture co and made another guild :p
02:56.18Domh|LaptopDJane, one sec
02:56.54Domh|Laptophttp://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Velen&cn=Domhie
02:57.19Domh|LaptopI've actually got the Mag'hari cheiftan's staff for my arcane set too, but I use that one for fire cause I need the +hit to make it viable
02:57.31DjaneO.o
02:57.39DjaneOh, i guess you don't have a spriest or boomkin?
02:57.55Mowseynope
02:58.02MowseyI was the boomkin ages ago, then we needed a healer
02:58.03DjaneYeah, fair.
02:58.31DjaneDomh, pick up the Triumph emblem wand
02:58.33Domh|LaptopAlso, swapped out talisman of resurgance for that hit trinket today since I dropped below cap when I got my t10 hood
02:58.54Djaneand deathfrost boots if you have any gold.
02:58.56Domh|LaptopI had it.  Ran the stats through simcraft and excel.  This one is slightly better for me
02:59.00Domh|LaptopSaving for the boots
02:59.01DjaneNah
02:59.35DjaneTake the wand, put tuskarrs on boots
02:59.39Djaneand drop a hit gem somewhere
02:59.56DjaneYou'll gain about 50-100 dps, although it's impossible to really model
03:00.12Mowseygo go tuskarr rangers
03:00.21Domh|Laptopbut poe will yell at me if I dod that.  Cause I'd been using the other wand before :P
03:00.34DjaneNever gem pure haste, especially if you're multidipping gear for fire and arcane
03:00.35Domh|LaptopI'll look into it later
03:00.51Domh|LaptopThat was to bring haste on my fire set back to about what it was on arcane
03:01.04DjaneYah but you lose dps
03:01.04Domh|LaptopAnd there were no reckless amirites on the ah at the time
03:01.16DjaneArcane stats haste = 1.12sp
03:01.17Djanesp = 1
03:01.24Djanefire sp = 1, haste = 0.9
03:01.40DjaneSo a 20 haste gem is actually only worth 18sp, you've lost 5sp compared to a runed cardinal
03:01.51Djaneand 3sp compared to a reckless
03:02.12DjaneAnd in arcane, runed and reckless are nigh identical in weighting
03:02.17Domh|LaptopYeah, but like I said there were no recklesses on the AH.  I'll fix that when there are
03:02.27DjaneI appreciate the logic but the mechanics are unfortunately counter intuitive
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03:02.57DjaneI don't really think you have the gear or the buffs to pull off fire properly
03:03.09Domh|LaptopNo, I only want to use it for putricide atm
03:03.14Djane*nod*
03:03.17Domh|LaptopCause I really suck at keeping ab stacks up on him
03:03.30DjaneHmm
03:03.33Domh|LaptopIt's okay but my arcane still tops it
03:03.35DjaneFire is superior for putricide
03:03.51DjaneYou have too many sp/spirit gems I think
03:04.03Domh|LaptopOnly spirit I have was to activate the meta
03:04.13Domh|LaptopI have too many in arcane now due to having two in my laternat staff though
03:04.16DjaneNope, yeah, i misread the sp/hit
03:04.20Domh|Laptopah
03:04.27Domh|Laptopthat was because I didn't have that staff till today
03:04.36Domh|LaptopThey're going to be replaced with reckless gems too
03:04.50Djanenods
03:05.21DjaneStudent of the mind is lame, cut it
03:05.46Domh|LaptopPart of the issue stemmed from all the +spirit cloth I picked up as a lootsponge when I started :p
03:05.48Domh|LaptopOh?
03:06.00Domh|LaptopI admit I haven't actually had time to look too closely at fire yet
03:06.10Djane0.55% of your spirit turns into crit.
03:06.14Domh|LaptopAside from a few brief guides,
03:06.20Domh|LaptopI'll keep that in mind though
03:06.35DjaneStudent of the mind adds 4%/7%/10%
03:06.45DjaneIn your gear that gives you...
03:07.10Domh|LaptopWhat should I put the point into to get to torment the weak then?
03:07.15Djane21/36.75/52.5 spirit
03:07.27DjaneWhich == 11.55crit rating for 1 point
03:07.35DjaneI would go for either pushback resistance, or magic asorption
03:07.45Djane(in your fire spec)
03:07.56DjaneErr, not pushback
03:08.02DjaneMagic absorption.
03:08.06Domh|Laptopheh.  was going to question that
03:08.07Domh|Laptopk
03:08.22DjaneI know it's not a dps talent
03:08.37Djanebut 11.55 crit rating...is just worthless
03:08.41Domh|LaptopWhen I get time I have to sit down and actually pick at all this anyway.  It's mostly something I grabbed off someone's site to play with atm
03:08.42Djanethat's like 6spellpower
03:08.45Domh|Laptopheh
03:08.50DjaneIt's pretty cookiecutter.
03:08.57DjaneNothing particularly to fault with any of it.
03:09.01Domh|LaptopIt's probably exactly cookiecutter :p
03:09.18DjaneMore or less, aye.
03:09.23DjaneYour arcane spec should lose slow :P
03:09.33Djaneand 1 point in arcane mind
03:09.34Domh|LaptopMy arcane spec is too atm, though I put a point in slow cause I seem to use it a lot on things like Saurfang or kiting dreamwalker zombies
03:09.38Djane(unless you actually oom)
03:10.19DjaneI can appreciate the desire for that I guess.
03:10.37DjaneIt's obviously dependant on your raid setup, personally I wouldn't have it so that mages ever need to slow anything as it's such an inferior mechanic
03:10.46DjaneBut if it's something you guys need or use, then keep it aye.
03:11.10Djanea)Get 4set T10.
03:11.23Domh|LaptopThat's on the plan.  But I only hit 2pc today :p
03:11.28Djaneb)clean up the gems
03:11.33Domh|LaptopWhich reminds me, I need to try VoA for gloves again
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03:11.35Djanec)get some better loot :p
03:11.39Domh|Laptopheh
03:11.44DjaneIt's unfortunate but most of your gear is poorly itemised for you
03:12.11Djanecloak, wand, trinket 1,
03:12.13Djaneweapon
03:12.14Domh|LaptopI know.  But they pulled my mage through as a mostly fresh 80 to absorb useless cloth drops :p
03:12.19Djanenods
03:12.21DjaneTotally reasonable.
03:12.32DjaneIdeally replace the weapon with abracadavar for fire
03:12.33Domh|Laptopwait, cloak is wrong?
03:12.35StormscapeDjane oh god tanking a ICC25 pug is horrible
03:12.39Stormscapethey kept not healing me
03:12.45DjaneUrk
03:12.46StormscapeI died 6 times on Marrowgar
03:12.50DjaneDomh, it's spirit and crit :|
03:12.50Domh|LaptopWhat should I be looking for?
03:12.56DjaneHaste and sp
03:13.01DjaneThe BEST gear for you is stam/int
03:13.03Domh|LaptopI know, but I didn't seen anything else avilable for frosts
03:13.04Djanehaste/crit/sp
03:13.08Djaneand crit/hit interchangably.
03:13.15DjaneOh for sure, it's the best cloak you can get easily.
03:13.32DjaneAlthough there are more useful pieces to replace with frost than that, because it's....just really not for mages.
03:13.32Domh|LaptopAh. KK.  I knew it wasn't the bestI could get, but it replaced a 219 from h ToC
03:13.37DjaneNod
03:14.04StormscapeDjane is it normal to die in like, 4 seconds from mobs if they reach me on my mage
03:14.13DjaneStormscape, what context?
03:14.17Stormscapeit feels like if I don't kill them before they reach me I just sort of
03:14.18Djaneheroic dungeon?
03:14.18Stormscapefall over
03:14.21Stormscapelevel 60
03:14.26Djaneoh right, yup, pretty much.
03:14.33DjaneMages are glasspaper cannons
03:14.39Stormscapegood thing I'm frost then =P
03:14.43DjaneWhen you get to 64, switch to arcane
03:14.51Stormscapereally?
03:14.54DjaneYessers.
03:14.56DjaneIt's hilarious
03:14.56Domh|LaptopYar
03:14.58DjaneStand in a pack
03:15.02DjaneArcane blast x2 on mob 1.
03:15.05Domh|LaptopEspecially if you're doing instances
03:15.06Djanearcane blast x3 on mob 2.
03:15.11Djanearcane blast x5 on mob 3
03:15.17Djaneerr
03:15.22Djanex4 on mob 3.
03:15.30Djane(that is, 1,2 mob 1, 3rd mob 2 etc)
03:15.34Djanearcanemissiles mob 4.
03:15.36DjaneRinse and repeat.
03:15.39DjaneThey'll never reach you.
03:15.47Djane2 minute evocation with 60% mana and health.
03:15.54DjaneVirtually no downtime.
03:16.03DjaneIt does the damage of fire with the efficiency of frost.
03:16.25Domh|LaptopHmm.  This reminds me that I have to decide what to do with my priest.  Disc, shadow or holy :<  I like them all and have 252 frost saved (and not one ever spent on it) because I can't choose a fav
03:16.35Djanedisc is imba.
03:16.41DjaneAlso
03:16.47DjaneIt's BiS uses two piece shadow tier.
03:16.58DjaneSince the healing tier for disc is about 2 pence more than worthless.
03:17.01Stormscapespec shadow
03:17.03Stormscapedot the world
03:17.09DjaneNah, go disc, get shadow tier :p
03:17.38Domh|LaptopCool.  My disc set (t9 level) actually has 2pc t9 shadow bonus atm, cause I was lazy :P
03:18.02Domh|LaptopI'll probably stick with shadow/disc atm.  Though currently my disc is PvP
03:18.19Domh|LaptopI like watching melee beat themselves to death on my shield :)
03:18.35DjaneHeh
03:19.17DjaneI was half of a disc priest/frost:arcane mage 2v2 last season
03:19.23Domh|LaptopI did mess around with Holy a good deal recently (built up a set to about 4.9kgs) just to try and get a better feel for what I wanted to do
03:19.27Domh|LaptopCool
03:19.28DjaneIt was a lot of fun
03:19.44DjaneWe sucked, but it was fu
03:20.02DjaneAlso
03:20.06Domh|LaptopI was in a 2v2 with a rogue and my priest till the rogue took a break from wow.  We were doing okay though we didn't move past 1100 (as that's when he quit)
03:20.08DjaneMy disc priests shields are too strong.
03:20.13Domh|Laptopoh?
03:20.20Domh|LaptopGoiong over the 10k cap?
03:20.24DjaneYup
03:20.34DjaneA lot of stuff isn't proccing is it rapture? now.
03:20.43Domh|Laptophuh
03:21.06DjaneOn anything short of the LK or BQL heroic, marrowgar heroic the shields aren't getting used up
03:21.09Domh|LaptopI noticed my rapture didn't seem to be working right lately either.  But I assumed that was just me not reading it right
03:21.14Domh|Laptopah
03:21.19DjaneSo they're not proccing rapture
03:21.24DjaneSo she's losing some regen
03:21.39Domh|LaptopI thought they procced when it timed out too?  Guess I should have read the fine print
03:21.51DjaneNope, totally absorbed or dispelled, if they time out no mana back
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03:22.07DjaneAlthough she is fixing that by going more tank healy.
03:22.28DjaneAlso, I still think marrowgar heroic is one of the best examples of heroics there is.
03:22.51DjaneTake a simple cakewalk fight, and with a slight mechanic twist and a tune up in damage you change the fight entirely.
03:22.59Domh|LaptopI wouldn't know.  Only heroic raiding I've done was lootship.  Where I got a swanky ring :)
03:23.18DjaneWell, the main thing is bonestorm HURTS and he keeps bonespiking people during it.
03:23.22StormscapeDjane I like Heroic Marrowgar
03:23.27Domh|LaptopSh
03:23.28Domh|Laptopah
03:23.29DjaneI do too, I think it's a fantastic fight.
03:23.33Domh|Laptopsounds fun
03:23.40DjaneWe have it on farm, but it's -tense-
03:23.45Stormscape"sup bonestorm hits so hard you need to run out 10 seconds before he bonestorms"
03:23.49DjaneYeah!
03:23.52DjaneWell,
03:23.58Djanewe have a better method Stormscape :p
03:23.58Domh|LaptopI'd die though.  Statistically, I think marrow spikes me 50% of the time cause he hates me >_<
03:23.59Stormscapethat's how we do it to prevent deaths
03:24.05Domh|LaptopThough. . . I don't recall getting spiked today. . .
03:24.12DjaneEveryone runs out 3-4 seconds before, but the tank kites it back 10 seconds before
03:24.14Stormscapewe kept getting gibbed on the storms until we did that
03:24.19Domh|Laptopheh
03:24.33DjaneSo marrowgar is a good 50% of the room away when he starts up, we only have 1 melee dps so we can do this easily
03:24.39StormscapeHeroic Marrowgar is a perfect example of "get fucked"
03:24.42DjaneYup.
03:24.44Nobgullol
03:24.52DjaneMy favourite heroic marrowgar moment is when i was on my mage.
03:24.52Stormscapesup bone spiked during bonestorm, marrowgar is on top of you and he just dropped 2 fires on you
03:25.00DjaneI got bonespiked, in the coldflame? OK MY HEALERS SCREAM
03:25.01Djanethey can cope.
03:25.05DjaneThen he bonestorms me
03:25.08DjaneSHIT! but they manage
03:25.12Domh|Laptoplol
03:25.15DjaneThen i get freed, as he ends bonestorm
03:25.17Domh|LaptopAwesome
03:25.20DjaneRight on top of me.
03:25.23StormscapeROFL
03:25.24DjaneAnd i get cleave oneshot.
03:25.28Domh|Laptoplol
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03:25.50DjaneIt was a pure example of YEAH THIS SHIT HURTS.
03:26.16DjaneUnlike Blood queen lanathel which is a TERRIBLE heroic.
03:26.16Stormscapeso the pug ICC25 my guild ran today was a perfect example of pugs not listening
03:26.16DjaneThey did the same thing, twist a mechanic slightly, increase the damage.
03:26.20Stormscape"ok during bonestorm spread out on the side of the room we came in on"
03:26.25Djaneunfortunately they actually made it EASIER to heal as the fight goes on, instead of harder.
03:26.28Domh|LaptopYeah, I'll honestly probably never make it far in a heroic.  At least not until I have a lot more experience in avoiding derp moments.  I got cleaved on normal the other week cause the tank didn't turn marrow around at the start like I'm used to and he opened with a cleave pretty much >_<
03:26.29Stormscapebonestorm, 7 people are standing next to me and the other tank
03:26.32StormscapeI /headdesk
03:26.48Domh|Laptoplol
03:26.53DjaneStormscape, I wiped 3 times on trash before marrow in my icc25 this week
03:26.56Stormscapeit was funny seeing them all die instantly from saber lash though
03:27.05DjanePeople don't understand how to not seed on the opening pulls.
03:27.22DjaneStormscape, consider BQL heroic for a moment. For each vampire that exists, the shroud of sorrow damage goes up by 5%, right?
03:27.29Stormscapeaye
03:27.38DjaneSo, as the fight goes on, healing gets harder, right?
03:27.42Stormscapesnicker
03:27.46Stormscapebut ok
03:27.53DjaneSee, thats blizzards intention.
03:27.58DjaneBut, it's just...no.
03:28.07StormscapeHeroic BQL is such a snoozefest
03:28.17Stormscapethe hardest part is literally the Second Air Phase
03:28.20DjaneYup.
03:28.21Stormscapesince it actually hurts
03:28.26DjaneDivine sacrifice.
03:28.27DjaneLulz.
03:28.31Stormscapepretty much
03:28.33Stormscapelewl
03:28.36DjaneYeah.
03:28.39Stormscapeor sup I'm a shadow priest
03:28.45DjaneDrop form hymn?
03:28.50Djaneand/or disperse.
03:28.52Stormscapenaw, epic VE heals to party
03:28.57DjaneMhmm
03:29.08Stormscapeplus vampire buff = rofl I don't die unless I'm one shot
03:29.13DjaneIndeed.
03:29.23Stormscapemind blast heals me for.... 3k
03:29.25DjaneMy warlock does something like 6k hps to himself
03:29.25Stormscapewith vampire buff
03:29.38Stormscapeour warlocks drain life during air phase
03:29.40Djane:p
03:29.47Stormscapeyou know, just in case
03:29.55DjaneMhmm.
03:29.58DjaneIt is such a lame heroic.
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03:30.06DjaneAs is blood prince council.
03:30.09Stormscapeit's free heroic tokens, I'm not gonna complain
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03:30.17StormscapeBPC is a BITCH on Heroic 10 imo
03:30.21Djanethe keleseth tanking mechanic was built for a ranged tank, and it FAILS so hard.
03:30.35Djanebecause ranged tanks aren't used, really.
03:30.51DjaneThe orbs should have an aggro table, not a ping pong aggro mechanic.
03:30.56BiggieSmallsbpc is easy to tank on 10h
03:31.08DjaneWe're not debating that.
03:31.15DjaneAlso, lol25man raider.
03:31.16BiggieSmallsjust my input
03:31.17BiggieSmallslol
03:31.18DjaneStop talking.
03:31.56DjaneThe whole orb mechanic is horrendously badly designed when you don't take a ranged tank for keleseth, when the orbs can be reassigned aggro by things like totems and so you can suddenly gib the tank
03:32.56DjaneFestergut is another poor heroic.
03:33.23DjaneBut then festergut was a poor fight, simply because it was a dps check and dps checks fail hard.
03:35.11Domh|LaptopDjane, any reccommendation on what I should spend the frost on on my priest?  As in what 2 t10 pieces to get?
03:35.28Domh|LaptopFor the shadow/disc
03:35.31DjaneShadow tier
03:35.37DjaneSince you can use it for both.
03:35.40DjaneNot sure which pieces
03:35.44DjaneI imagine shoulder and chest
03:35.49DjaneSince legs and gloves are VoA
03:35.57DjaneAnd/or shoulder and head
03:36.04Djanedepends what's a biggest upgrade right now.
03:37.23Domh|LaptopYeah, that's what I thought.  What do you think about the 264 belt?  Should I look into that or save for more t10 pieces?
03:37.46Djane-Generally- 4set T10 is the ideal for caster dps, but I don't play a priest, I only watch Sinespe play one :p
03:37.59Domh|Laptoplol
03:38.01DjaneI'm pretty sure that's what he went for first, so I'm going to assume that's the way to go.
03:38.21Domh|Laptopkk.  I've got enough frost for 3pc t10 atm.  2 95 pieces and a 60 even
03:38.22StormscapeDjane imo another fail heroic is Sindragosa. "zomg it's exactly like normal except you actually have to do the fight properly"
03:38.35DjaneStormscape, no 88 stacks of unchained magic for me :(
03:38.37Domh|LaptopSo I guess I'll get shoulders, chest and helm, since the other 2 might drop in VoA
03:38.43DjaneSounds good Domh
03:38.48DjaneStormscape, i've not tried sindra heroic yet
03:38.50StormscapeDjane sure you can, you just can't be in the raid when it explodes
03:38.51DjaneBut it seems pretty lame.
03:39.00Stormscapewe 2 shotted it on Heroic
03:39.04DjaneHmm.
03:39.06Stormscapeit was like BQL all over again
03:39.11DjaneHow many attempts did you need for Putricide?
03:39.20Domh|LaptopExcellent.  Thanks for the help then.  I'm gonna turn in for now, and look at this all tomorrow when I'm less likely to screw up my stats :p
03:39.21Stormscapeon 10 man? 3 weeks
03:39.25Djane...Right.
03:39.27DjaneThat's encouraging.
03:39.35NobgulHeroic PP < about 20 wipes
03:39.39Nobgulcry
03:39.46DjaneWe've had about 12 wipes on H:Putricide so far, but I'm pretty sure we were doing it wrong
03:39.53Stormscapeit only took 3 weeks because we only spent 2 hours on him each night
03:39.56Stormscapeso 6 hours
03:40.03DjaneYeah, we've spent like 2 hours so far.
03:40.12Stormscapethe final 4 hours
03:40.13DjaneBut if sindra is that much easier...hmm.
03:40.16Stormscapewere P3 wipes
03:40.22NobgulWhen people hear heroic they loose thier mind's.
03:40.22DjaneTransition?
03:40.28Stormscapenot transition
03:40.33Stormscapelike, deep in P3
03:40.35DjaneWah.
03:40.36Djanehow?
03:40.40Stormscapesup unbound plague
03:40.40DjaneP3 is the easy bit.
03:40.43DjaneOh right.
03:40.47DjaneYeah, fair.
03:41.08DjaneI hate the fight as i'm not able to see what's going wrong from my viewpoint.
03:41.08Stormscapelots of 200k HP then sup he healed wipes
03:41.21Djanehe heals through tank death iirc?
03:41.25Stormscapeyup
03:42.08DjaneP3 seems so simply in my mind
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03:42.17DjaneNo adds to worry about, kite as usual
03:42.19Djanenuke.
03:42.25StormgaleSadly people arent so level headed during the fight
03:42.28DjaneDon't be retards with plague, I don't understand how that's hard.
03:42.38StormscapeP3 is very hectic even though it's simple on paper
03:42.44Stormscapeyelling on our vent goes up 300% during P3
03:42.50DjaneSimilarly, in my halion attempts(and kill) i got hit by the laser cutter once, as a TANK in the shadowrealm.
03:42.54DjaneAs the tank
03:43.07Djaneyou know, the guy who has virtually no sense of perspective and has to stand almost right on it
03:43.13DjaneEveryone else kept dying to it.
03:43.20DjaneAnd i really really do not understand how or why that happened.
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03:44.56Arkaenhttp://www.whotookspaz.org/randomflash/DeathSponge_NotePants.swf
03:44.58DjaneStormscape, working towards my achievement drake at the moment, I need sindra, deathwhisper, LK achieves left and Sindra/Putri heroic.
03:46.42StormgaleMight be an idea to lower the yelling, when vent gets hectic people Get hectic
03:46.55DjaneIndeed.
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03:52.54StormgaleThe only really "Hardcore" rule I look for in a guild "You talk on vent in Progression fights only if you actually have something important to say, so usually tanks/Raidleaders, none of this arguing over why X died shit"
03:53.38Molfsontanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgDZ9LhZ2_g I love this.
03:53.43NobgulHows that working out for you? I end up muting my vent when we do heroic.
03:54.21DjaneYou're a bad raider.
03:54.44DjaneOh wait
03:54.49Djanemuting, as in, you can still hear?
03:54.58DjaneOr do you mean muting the vent sound?
03:54.59MolfsontanMuting means turning off the sound.
03:55.05DjaneThen bad, bad person.
03:55.27DjaneI agree with Stormgale in regards to voice server usage on progression fights.
03:55.55DjaneWe don't, thankfully, have a blame culture at all in my guild, it's never a matter of who failed but always a matter of what can we learn from this to not wipe again
03:56.15DjaneBut when it comes to the hard fights, it's concentration time, you can talk about boobs and penises during lootship.
04:04.15ArkaenDjane: It'd not be so blameless if I was around
04:04.18ArkaenI'd always blame you ofc
04:04.25Arkaen:D
04:04.50DjaneOf course.
04:04.54DjaneAnd i'd mock your pants.
04:05.00ArkaenSinespe would help
04:05.02Arkaen:p
04:05.07DjaneMocking your pants? yes
04:05.10DjaneHe would.
04:05.15ArkaenHe'd also verbally kick me in the balls
04:05.16StormgaleWhat it comes down to is, you start blaming someone your gonna be a man down soon enough, Fuck if you have to at least be able to go "Your doing it wrong, but here is a spec/Rotation that might help"
04:05.35DjaneStormgale, I agree pretty much. Raiding is about fun, it's not a job.
04:05.41ArkaenRaiding is my job
04:05.51ArkaenWell
04:05.53Arkaennot anymore
04:05.54Arkaenbut it WAS my job
04:05.57StormgaleCata might bring me back to 5+ Night a week raiding
04:06.00DjaneI say this as a hardcore raider pushing ICC heroics and a raid leader. I never shout at my raiders, i never have a go at people.
04:06.02StormgaleBut I need to fucking enjoying it, ya know
04:06.09DjaneI point out mistakes, yes.
04:06.14DjaneI explain where things went wrong, yes.
04:06.25DjaneBut shouting? Absolutely no place for it in my WoW.
04:06.39StormgaleThere is a place for it
04:06.41StormgaleAfter a kill
04:06.45DjaneMhmm
04:06.50StormgalePreferably with the vent muted/turned low
04:06.51DjaneFUCK YEAHS are excluded, of course.
04:07.11DjaneI'm lucky that the people I raid with are all my friends, and lovely people.
04:07.17StormgaleUS side Djane?
04:07.18DjaneWe banter, chat, talk about our lives as we raid.
04:07.24DjaneEU, stormrage.
04:07.31StormgaleHorde or ally?
04:07.35DjaneHorde, of course.
04:07.39StormgaleDarnit
04:07.44Djaneoh?
04:07.57StormgaleWell Never to early to be looking for Non Sperging guilds for cata
04:08.04DjaneHeh.
04:08.05StormgaleI mean Im burnt out on WoTLK
04:08.15StormgaleBut wanna be able to get back in in cata
04:08.22StormgaleThen again I am a wierd contradiction
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04:08.30DjaneWe have had so many memorable moments and have only been raiding as a guild for 2 months.
04:08.49Stormgalemay have created a care package to ensure he was 1st 80 DK... Flasks and elixers and Bandages and Potions
04:08.56ArkaenI DON'T NEED BOOTS
04:08.58ArkaenI'M A PALADIN
04:09.09DjaneThings like my offtank bear /dance instead of taunting on toravon for a laugh so i go "WELL FINE, I'LL SOLO TANK IT"
04:09.11DjaneSo i did.
04:09.16ArkaenStormgale
04:09.17DjaneWe got the kill
04:09.19ArkaenI lost all respect for you
04:09.20Djaneand i had 17 stacks.
04:09.22ArkaenAlliance scum
04:09.24Arkaen:o
04:09.28DjaneAnd was taking like 35k dps.
04:09.31StormgaleI don't need your respect
04:09.31DjaneAnd died.
04:09.37DjaneBecause the healers stopped to check the loot :p
04:09.38ArkaenStormgale: Yes you do.
04:09.43StormgaleNo I don't
04:09.50DjaneStormgale, my favourite raiding moment of all time was on a LK wipe.
04:09.51StormgaleI have my blade and my memories
04:09.59DjaneP2->3 transition
04:10.01ArkaenThat made me think of FFT, Stormgale
04:10.07ArkaenSword and the Stone and all
04:10.11DjaneI'm picking up the raging spirits, my bear tank goes to pick up the 3rd one that spawns
04:10.18DjaneOnly, he tab targets and charges a frozen orb
04:10.19ArkaenBURR TANK
04:10.36Furyhunterand that's that
04:10.38DjaneI see him charge into the middle, Stop, he shouts into vent, "OH SHIIIIIIIIII"
04:10.39FuryhunterG15 authenticator finished
04:10.44Djaneand we just see rocket bear fly past us
04:11.05StormgaleXD
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04:11.16Domh|Laptop. . g15 authenticator?  Can has plz?
04:11.17DjaneAnd this is what makes my guild good, what happened next? we wipe. Why?
04:11.18StormgaleMy favorite moment of rading is admittedly a little egocentric
04:11.26DjaneBecause we were pissing ourselves with laughter.
04:11.28StormgaleXD
04:11.31DjaneWe had to take a bio break
04:11.35fewynthere
04:11.38fewynback in windows
04:11.38DjaneBecause dear lord is was amazing.
04:11.39fewynup to date
04:11.42fewynand activated
04:11.43Djaneit*
04:12.00StormgaleSo I am kinda hardcore/nolife, especially back in BC/vanilla so I had to deal with alot of Epeening Motherfuckers right?
04:12.06DjaneMhmm hmm
04:12.16StormgaleSo were on Patchwork back in the original nax
04:12.29Stormgaleim a lock, this rogue is bieng... well a stereotypical NE rogue
04:12.30fewynyeah i was cockblocked on patchwerk in vanilla
04:12.39StormgaleSo what I do is simple
04:12.41fewyni never got to see beyond the first wing bosses in vanilla
04:14.43StormgaleTo shut him up I Calmly and concisely as we Nuke him down, take rapid fire questions about any boss strat from Vanilla (I was waaay to nerdy back then) (was something like The Panther boss from ZA, Ragnaros, Nef, Chromie and 2nd Boss in AQ40) whilst sitting back matching him on DPS
04:15.11StormgaleThen he proceeded to run right into a frogger slime
04:15.26DjaneSnicker.
04:15.54DjaneI hate faux elitists.
04:16.02DjaneI don't mind getting smashed by actual elitsts.
04:16.09DjaneWas in a heroic on my mage a few weeks back
04:16.12StormgaleI know alot of shit about wow, I tend to collect it, but you don't go running your mouth about it... you help your guild learn, if someone needs to know The Damage of a boss... you find it out ya know
04:16.19StormgaleYou dont go "HUR HUR I KNOW YOU NOOB"
04:16.41Djanei did 5k dps and 10% of the total dps, for instance. I just hate the faux elitists "better than you" when they're actually shit.
04:16.48StormgaleYeah
04:17.10DjaneI do a lot of theorycrafting. It continiously amuses me when people ask for 5.5k+ GS for ICC10
04:17.14DjaneFor dps.
04:17.21DjaneWhen people were doing double the dps requirements in ulduar gear.
04:17.34Stormgale:P Yeah but that would require those people to be smart
04:17.36DjaneNow, -i- couldn't do double the dps requirements in ulduar gear, I'm not that good.
04:17.44DjaneI'm pretty good, yes, but not quite -that- good.
04:18.01StormgaleYeah
04:18.15StormgaleOn DPS i'm 1/2 and 1/2 about DPS meters TBH
04:18.25StormgaleThey are a nice tool but fuck it brings out the worst in people
04:18.35DjaneIt's just this whole if you don't have gear you suck attitude when actually you're demanding so much gear for stuff it can only be for compensating.
04:18.47DjaneDps meters are worthless.
04:18.53DjaneDamage LOGS on the other hand, are incredibly useful
04:19.01StormgaleTrue
04:19.05DjaneAt least, for yourself.
04:19.21Djanedamage meters are useful for looking at other peoples performance...but then you're getting into a whole new ball game there.
04:19.43StormgaleI find they can be useful, but generally should only be commented if people are under average required for the fight and shouldn't be
04:19.59StormgaleThe top like 5 spot fighting is God... so much random element in that shit
04:20.08DjaneYes and no.
04:20.12DjaneLet me show you something :p
04:20.42Djanehttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/vua88wanw97l67tn/sum/damageDone/?enc=kills -> This is an icc25 pug some of my guildees hopped onto
04:20.52Djane3 of my dps are represented there.
04:20.59DjaneGuess which ones.
04:21.41StormgaleTheres a difference between PuG logs and guild logs
04:21.55DjaneOh sure.
04:22.10DjaneBut i have a point to make with that log.
04:22.18DjaneSinespe, Raelophos, Yahriel are my dps.
04:22.35DjaneSinespe and Raelophos are two people who make it a habit to know everything they can about their class
04:22.51DjaneThey're roughly equally geared, and lower geared than about 30% of the other dps.
04:23.08DjaneThey did so well because they know their shit. Knowing your shit is worth more than any other variable.
04:23.34DjaneIn any group, guild and not guild, knowing your shit more than others will still seperate you from the pack, because it's a greater variable than rng.
04:23.35StormgaleOf course
04:23.43StormgaleThats why I said top 5
04:24.01StormgaleThe top 5 are going to be the people who know their shit, generally they will infight amongst themselves due to Other variance
04:24.02fewynderp derp derpy derp derp
04:24.10StormgaleHey Fewyn you sexy beast you
04:24.14DjaneAnd this is an actual guild log -> http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-2vr2fzo9rwf6qmua/sum/damageDone/?enc=kills
04:24.29fewyni'm hongry
04:24.31fewynbut it's like
04:24.33fewyn12:30am
04:24.46fewynshould probably goto sleep so i wake up in time for raid
04:25.12Stormgale-hugs-
04:25.20DjaneHeh
04:25.22Djane5:25am here
04:25.33StormgaleYeah :P
04:25.47StormgaleAnd you can see what I mean in that log between Thrazz and Mir
04:25.59Djanehow so?
04:26.14Stormgale>1% DPs variance, same Active Time
04:26.18DjaneYah
04:26.28DjaneThat's within rng
04:26.31DjaneDefinitely.
04:26.52StormgaleYou a 10 man guild Djane?
04:26.53DjaneIn a group of people who share the same intensity of raiding, you're in a good position
04:26.55DjaneYup
04:26.58StormgaleCool
04:27.11DjaneSinespe and I are ex 10man strict
04:27.27DjaneBut when we formed touched by a troll, considering the main changes and immense gearing up required, we decided to not bother
04:27.58DjaneWhen we formed...let's see
04:28.09DjanePaladin tank(class and role change_, Feral tank(role change)
04:28.31Djanewarlock (class and role change), Mage (class change), Retri paladin (role change), Spriest (same)
04:28.42DjaneDisc priest (Same), resto shaman (class and role change)
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04:28.53Djanehunter(same), boomkin(class and role change)
04:29.09DjaneSo i'm sure you can appreciate the immensity of gearing up nigh on a full new raid group.
04:29.38StormgaleMakes sense
04:29.53StormgaleI doubt I can resist the charm of 25 man raiding though
04:29.56DjaneNot to mention, I'd done the 10man strict scene almost as far as it could go, top 50 in the world.
04:30.02DjaneThank god for catacylsm.
04:30.10StormgaleThe scale, the luster, the Booming of Combat :P
04:30.39DjaneI'm looking forward to 10mans being appropriately tuned so much, I'm so sick of the 25mans are harder mentality.
04:30.46Djanebecause mechanically, they aren't.
04:31.20Djane10man strict is considerably harder than 25man normal. 10man not strict...sadface.
04:32.09DjaneAnd the sadest thing is that there -still- hasn't been a 10man strict LK heroic kill.
04:32.46DjaneBlizzard failed so hard at that one. "Oh noes 10mans are too easy"...say 25man raiders in 25man gear."OK!" says blizzard, tuning it appropriat...oh wait.
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04:34.40DjaneFirst 11/12 heroic 10man strict was on april 1st. That was...nigh on 4 months ago.
04:37.32DjaneO.o. Only 3 heroic halion 10man strict kills. Dayum.
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04:43.38Eraclitostrict = people without gear from 25man?
04:44.43DjaneYes
04:46.19Eraclitowell, gear from icc10 is often itemized pretty bad
04:46.46DjaneNot really.
04:47.04Eraclitoi don't like many equips
04:47.15DjaneThere are more pieces from 10man heroic that are better than 25man normal than vice versa
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04:47.23DjaneIf you were taking a full 264 set, you'd take more from 10man than 25.
04:47.37Djanethe main problem with 25man gear is easy access to 277 loot with lootship
04:47.38Djaneand trinkets.
04:47.49Djanefor most classes 10man trinkets == an i251/264 and an i200
04:48.14Eraclitoi still have the i200 haste trinket from toc on my main
04:48.19Eraclitoand heroic muradin spyglass
04:48.19DjaneYes, abyssal rune
04:48.25Djanesomeone in full 10man heroic gear will be -better- off than a 25man normal raider except for trinkets.
04:48.41Eraclitosure, but i don't think it's true for all specs
04:48.46DjanePretty much
04:48.51DjaneIt's true for caster dps, it's true for tanking
04:48.59Djaneit's true for melee dps and true for paladin and shaman healing
04:49.04DjaneI don't know about priest, but eh.
04:49.05Eraclitowell, true for a fire mage, less true for an arcane
04:49.08Djanethat's a minority.
04:49.11DjaneNope, true for an arcane mage.
04:49.24Eraclitotoo many hit/crit gear actually
04:49.26DjaneNo.
04:49.37DjaneMy arcane mage is in full BiS251 gear.
04:49.53DjaneIt is 1 below hit cap with no hit gems or enchants, with virtually no spirit, over 1000 haste
04:50.05Eraclitoyou mean, the neck from saurfang, the legs from festergut and back from dreamwalker?
04:50.11Djanein 264 gear that's about 10 over the hit cap, still virtually no hit and around 1100 haste
04:50.21DjaneYes.
04:50.26DjaneThose are BiS pieces.
04:50.29Eraclitothere's some loot i missed?
04:50.36DjaneHeroic mag'hari
04:50.44DjaneWand from BQL i believe.
04:50.49DjaneTier is tier.
04:50.50Eraclitoi still need both from saurfang
04:51.05DjaneYou need some hit which you pick up from ether soaked bracers from rotface
04:51.27Djanein 10man heroic gear you have less wasted hit, about 150 more haste, similar crit and less spirt than 25man normal BiS.
04:51.33DjaneThe only difference is trinkets.
04:51.41Eraclitoand boots?
04:51.45Eraclitowhat boots do you use?
04:52.19DjaneSandals of consecration
04:52.39Djaneor deathfrost boots if you need the hit
04:53.04DjaneI'm not saying EVERY piece of 10man heroic gear is BiS at i264.
04:53.13DjaneBut there's more 10man heroic BiS than 25man normal at that ilevel
04:53.18DjanePlague scientists boots ARE the shits.
04:53.39DjaneBut you suffer massively on weapon and back
04:53.49Eraclitooh right, i gave up on craftables when i crafted the 245 tank bracers when joining a guild with my paladin (gave up on my mage for a bit)
04:53.59Eraclitoand the first night, the first boss
04:54.06Eraclitodropped the tank bracers
04:54.10DjaneMhmm, I always buy all craftables
04:54.15DjaneThat are upgrades, anyways.
04:54.16Eraclitoi did
04:54.27DjanePurely because gold is worthless if you don't spend it, and I have an unlimited supply of it.
04:54.46DjaneSee, an arcane mage loses about 600 dps from weapon alone as a 25man raider.
04:55.16DjaneWell, dying light is good
04:55.25DjaneAnd that's only about 50 dps behing heroic mag'hari
04:55.40Djanebut nibelung is way way behind
04:55.44Eraclitoi know
04:55.54Eraclito(i have nibelung and i don't use it)
04:56.04Eraclito(i prefer frost needle + 232 offhand)
04:56.26Djane251/264?
04:56.45Eraclito251, i almost only pug icc10
04:56.52DjaneNibelung is better.
04:57.00DjaneEspecially outside of ICC.
04:57.23Eraclitohttp://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Runetotem&n=Eraclito well, that's me
04:58.20Eraclitoi only take loot other people don't want, because of guild's rules
04:58.21Djane1 too many spirit gems
04:58.41Eraclitoi follow the rule of the socket bonus
04:58.58DjaneIt's wrong.
04:59.02Eraclito7sp isn't worth it?
04:59.04DjaneNope.
04:59.09DjaneSpirit is nigh on worthless.
04:59.21Djane10 spirit = 5.5 crit = 2 sp.
04:59.36DjaneSo you lose 4sp.
04:59.50Djane2.2 when you account for kings
05:00.03Eraclitoso i should change one of these three gems
05:00.14DjaneIf you're looking to minmax, yes.
05:00.33DjaneIt's not a big deal, and only the most hardcore would reject you for such a small almost irrelevant matter.
05:00.46DjaneYou have too much haste, or not enough
05:01.06Eraclitowhat do you mean?
05:01.18DjaneUnder icy veins, bloodlust, T10 and potion of speed you're haste capped.
05:01.26Djane(906)
05:01.40DjaneSo that 63 extra haste you have is wasted in that situation.
05:02.21DjaneSo to minmax you'd drop 63 haste for SP, or close too, or you gem full sp/haste and push 1.1k-1.2k haste, and don't use T10 bonus during potion of speed.
05:02.24Morrilso sadly I have to stay awake tonight
05:03.00DjaneAssuming you double pot.
05:03.17DjaneIf you don't double pot you're wasting a good 50k damage done, but that's your perogative, and it doesn't matter.
05:03.58Eraclitoi don't get why i should push to 1.1/1.2k haste, if i'm softcapped
05:04.29DjaneBecause if you're pushing that much haste you approach the next hasteca
05:04.31Djanecap*
05:04.40Djanewhich is icy veins+ bloodlust + potion of speed
05:04.49DjaneI.e no missiles for the 15 seconds of potion of speed uptime.
05:05.00DjaneIt's a right mana burn but it is marginally more dps, about 0.5% mathmatically.
05:05.18DjaneThere are two problems with being soft hastecapped.
05:05.22Djanea)Pure stats wasted
05:05.38Djaneb)server lag and GCD clipping equate to an abnormally significant amount of dps wasted.
05:06.20DjaneIf you're at 969 haste, with icy veins, bloodlust, T10 bonus and potion of speed, your arcane blast and missiles are at something like 0.96-0.99 cast time, this results in the occasional spell queue failing
05:06.43DjaneEvery time that happens your cast time is more like 1.4-2seconds for that spell, which is obviously a significant impact.
05:07.18DjaneBecause when that happens you basically have no spell queueing and double dip into your latency caused dps loss.
05:07.36DjaneBeing just above the cap is the worst place to be, but being quite far over it is fine because you don't GCD clip.
05:08.32DjaneAnd whilst the situation it arises isn't a large portion of the fight, it -should- occur once every fight, or you're stacking your cooldowns badly.
05:08.33Eraclitoi think i got it
05:11.18DjaneOh, want to make your guild cry/wtf?
05:11.45Eraclitoyes? :P
05:11.59DjaneArcane mage aoe is the greatest aoe in the game, if played right. When you hit premarrowgar trash, use a Presence of minded rank 9 flamestrike, followed by a rank 8 flamestrike on the same spot.
05:12.04DjaneBlow all your cooldowns and blizzard.
05:12.17Djaneonce icy veins has worn off, refresh rank 9 flamestrike, blink in and arcane explosion.
05:12.26DjaneYou should do about 30k+ dps.
05:12.43Djanewell, you'll do about 4k per target in range.
05:12.50Eraclitoblink and arcane explosion won't make me die from a horrible death? :<
05:13.04DjaneShouldn't do, don't stand on top of any skeletons
05:13.13Djaneor in the LoS of the servants of the throne
05:13.26Eraclitoi usually do the trick of rank9/8
05:13.41DjaneArcane explosion is much better in ICC trash due to the often fragmented nature of the groups.
05:13.51DjaneBlizzard normally reaches 6 out of the pack of 10 or so
05:14.07DjaneWith arcane explosion you can position yourself between the tanks or packs to get all of them unlike blizzard.
05:14.18rikaiUgh... i'm way over my hit/experise caps... and i will be until i can get some new pants crafted... :(
05:14.27DjaneIt is somewhat situational, if the tanks are good and have everything on top of each other
05:14.30Djanejust blizzard spam
05:15.12Eraclitoi should refresh flamestrikes every two blizzards right?
05:15.12DjaneEraclito, if you have good tanks before sindragosa
05:15.17DjaneYah
05:15.25DjaneAlthough I tend to only bother refreshing rank 9
05:15.37Djaneand only after icy veins has worn off
05:15.55DjaneI'm not sure exactly what is the -greatest- aoe rotation there, i've not theorycrafted it enough, but it feels right
05:16.01DjaneBut yeah, good tanks before sindragosa.
05:16.12DjaneIf you are clever and evil and double dipping aoe caps with invis
05:16.17Djaneyou can peak at 130k dps
05:16.34Eraclitoi think frost aoe could be better due to improved blizzard snare + frostbite + shatter
05:16.37DjaneNah
05:16.47DjaneYou don't have the burst.
05:16.56Eraclitoyou still have icy veins
05:17.06DjaneYes, but arcane power is immense.
05:17.18DjaneArcane burst equates to 269% dps done with all
05:17.25Djanefrost equates to 162%
05:17.36Eraclitowell... you're right
05:17.47DjaneFrost is superior dps on an average.
05:17.50Djaneaoe dps, that is.
05:18.03DjaneBut arcane has the burst that is hilariously fun.
05:18.46DjaneALso, frost can't have a gimmick spec for ultimate aoe.
05:18.48Djane>.>
05:19.12Djane3 points in prismatic cloak instead of incineration, in arcane.
05:19.30Djaneinstant invis/cancel invis aura means you can stack 5 aoe caps instead of 3.
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05:20.34Eraclitoinstant invis will reset your aoe caps or what?
05:20.41DjaneIt's a "bug"
05:20.58Djaneif you invis, your flamestrikes will still tick for damage, but they don't exist to you, as it were.
05:21.05Djaneso you can reapply flamestrike 9/8 on top
05:21.27Djaneso you have 2xflamestrike 9, 2xflamestrike 8 and then blizzard.
05:22.12DjaneSickening burst.
05:22.22Eraclitooh, i didn't know it, seems pretty nice
05:22.33Djaneon the sindragosa whelps, you're hitting 40 targets with a 600+ tick, per 2 seconds
05:22.42Djane+40*6k
05:22.50Eraclitouhm i heard about people going back to fire, is that good in endgame gear or what?
05:22.56DjaneYes and no.
05:23.09DjaneMathmatically, fire is superior to arcane in late 264/277 gear
05:23.24DjaneMechanically, fire is better on putricide, sindragosa and the LK in 251/264 gear
05:23.24MiyariMr_Rabies!
05:23.30DjaneRealistically it's all about personal skill.
05:23.44DjaneI'm -bad- with fire, and would do less damage in full 277's as fire than in my 251's as arcane.
05:23.50Mr_Rabiesyes Miyari
05:23.51Mr_Rabies:O
05:24.00MiyariI just blew my own mind
05:24.05Mr_Rabieswhat hapan
05:24.07MiyariI just discovered that you can use classic Xbox Live subscription cards
05:24.08DjaneRemoved a rib?
05:24.13MiyariTo activate Gold Memberships
05:24.23Mr_Rabieswhat
05:24.51Mr_Rabiesdo you have a bunch or something
05:25.00MiyariI just found one of these in my closet http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000209V8K.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
05:25.28MiyariAnd I have a loose card that's been floating around for the past ten years or so
05:25.38DjaneLol, 12 month sub?
05:25.50MiyariThe Crimson Skies kit was still sealed and I just found it while cleaning
05:25.57MiyariAnd was like 'WTF do you do with these cards'
05:26.00Mr_Rabiesi got the one with the motogp demo and stuff
05:26.01Mr_Rabies:3
05:26.04MiyariAnd I just scratched the loose card off and input the code
05:26.05Mr_Rabiesthe first one
05:26.13Mr_Rabiesalmost got the beta but was strapped for cash when it came out
05:26.18MiyariAnd it's like "Xbox LIVE Prepaid 12 Month Gold Membership Card"
05:26.20MiyariAnd I'm like :O
05:26.31MiyariCan you add subscription cards
05:26.36MiyariOn to an existing subscription?
05:28.01Mr_Rabiesyes
05:28.07Mr_Rabiesi have like 3 years paid for
05:28.18Miyariomg
05:28.24MiyariIt's like Christmas in July
05:28.38MiyariI can't believe I've been hanging on to these things for 10 years though
05:28.43MiyariI wasn't even LIVING HERE 10 years ago
05:29.03MiyariI like that when I went back home to New Orleans
05:29.12MiyariI was like, I HAVE TO BRING THIS CLASSIC XBOX LIVE STARTER SET WITH ME
05:31.56Mr_Rabiesi just wait out on slickdeals or whathaveyou
05:32.02Mr_Rabiesfor cheap cards
05:32.08Mr_Rabiesbuy them for like $25 or so for a yer
05:32.11MiyariYeah
05:32.15MiyariI bought my last one because I got like
05:32.18Mr_Rabiesbuy like 3 years
05:32.19Miyari2000 Microsoft points with it
05:32.21MiyariFor using an Amex
05:33.37Miyarithe codes are SO hard to read
05:41.50FuryhunterOh man I just got an idea
05:44.55Miyarigawd rabies
05:45.01Miyarione of my friends has 38.7k gamerpoints is that a lot
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06:01.38Arkaenwhat
06:01.41ArkaenMiyari is actually in the channel?
06:06.59FayneFayne is actually in the channel?
06:07.48Miyarimaaaaan the gamertag I want hasn't been used since 2006
06:07.53MiyariWhy hasn't that b expired, c'mon Microsoft.
06:15.32Mr_Rabiesfinn and jake
06:15.36Mr_Rabiesset out to find a new home
06:15.46Mr_Rabiesit's gonna be tough for a kid and a dog on their own
06:15.50Mr_RabiesGET IT OUT OF MY HEAD
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06:34.16Miyarihum I want a media center PC but the parts for the poor 6 year old barebones case I have cost too much :|
06:34.27MiyariIronic that I have to buy something newer for it to be cheaper
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06:38.28DomhI know that feeling :<
06:38.46Miyariwoah http://lifehacker.com/5595586/set-up-a-fully-automated-torrent+seeding-media-center?skyline=true&s=i
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06:43.52Mowseyit's 2:45 am, why is the sky light
06:47.12ArkaenMowsey: Because you're high
06:47.22Mowseyprobably :<
06:50.35DomhI want to sleep.  But can't.  This kinda sucks
06:50.54Mowseyme too
06:50.57MowseyHOLD ME ;-;
06:51.04DomhSo instead I'm up fixing my mage gems that I screwed up earlier today, and getting the shadowpriest setup
06:51.19DomhNeed a runed cardinal ruby now, but there's none on the AH :<
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06:51.33Miyarirofl wtf
06:51.34Miyarihttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811204035
06:51.39Miyarinewegg has an entire build as a 'combo deal'
06:51.51Miyariin case you're psychotic and want to build a $1000 htpc
06:53.04Arkaenhtpc?
06:53.39DomhHome Theatre PC
06:53.47Mowseyhoopajoop technology personal computer
06:54.18DomhFavourite technical acronym:  Twain - Technology without an interesting name
06:54.20DomhI kid you not
06:55.36DomhAnyhow going to go try and pass out again.  Else I'll screw up during raid tomorrow :<
06:55.44Domhg'night
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08:36.26DjaneSeriously
08:36.29DjaneIf i could sex one band
08:36.31Djaneand only one band
08:36.52Mowseywould it be Hansen?
08:36.56DjaneIt would be the band that perfectly matches 30 hours of no sleep at 9:30am on an overcast sunday morning
08:36.57DjaneRatatat.
08:47.12ArkaenI wish it was still raining
08:47.17Arkaenbut it stopped a couple hours ago
08:47.19Arkaen:(((((((((
08:47.21DjaneIT'S STILL RATATATING
08:47.27DjaneIT'S RATATING ALL THE TIME IN PERFECTWORLD.
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09:50.26Gary|tpwho is awake
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09:52.46Gary|tphi
09:52.47Gary|tpwink
09:52.49Gary|tpWINK
09:52.50Gary|tplol
09:53.00winkpartially awake
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10:56.19Limberohey mowsey
10:56.29Limberowanna see if they lifted my trial status?
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11:18.36robokittyhttp://www.airliners.net/photo/Korean-Air/Boeing-737-9B5/1747489/L/ Silly Koreans :<
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11:21.21StormscapeLimbero, copper ore
11:21.23Stormscapeseriousluy
11:21.30Stormscapeit's worth like 4x what Saronite is worth
11:21.32Stormscapesince nobody farms it
11:21.38Limberokay
11:21.56Limberohopefully I can post stuff to AH even though I'm still considered a trial
11:22.04StormscapeNope
11:22.05StormscapeYou can't
11:22.10Stormscapeto prevent gold selling
11:22.28Stormscapethe game is basically single player on a trial account
11:22.34Limberoannoying
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11:57.46Limberomy minimap says I have mail but when I click a mailbox it says my inbox is full :S
11:58.10stuf"This is as sick as watching my mum get gang banged by a collection of grubby welsh coal miners"
11:58.13stufoh lol
11:58.14stufdubstepquotes
11:59.04stuf"This is filthier then a box of smashed kittens!"
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12:23.31robokittyyup, another sunday afternoon wasted thanks to fishing scrubs
12:24.21g0urrahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-q7YnyUmY
12:24.27g0urrawhy do I keep listening to this
12:25.41robokittybecause you're Swedish and thus is stuck with poor taste
12:26.39g0urrawell, phelps was right
12:26.42g0urragod hates swedes
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12:28.38Stormscapewow so playing a frost mage just isn't even fair
12:28.45Stormscapesup Improved Blizzard you're basically rooted
12:29.49ari5av<PROTECTED>
12:30.16ari5avalso, arcane explosion if you don't want to be stuck in one place
12:32.20Stormscapeari5av yeah this is the highest level I've ever had a mage
12:32.23Stormscapeand she's only 61
12:32.51StormscapeI still need to get used to the idea of killing 10 mobs at once though
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12:42.26Noxyroar
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12:48.29robokittycrawls around on Noxy
12:48.44kuinkittykittys robokitty
12:48.50robokittyD:
12:49.10kuinkittySomeone is trying to buy Primordials for 300g, kewl
12:49.21robokitty:<
12:49.41kuinkittyLike, cool story bro. 700g in AH
12:50.26robokittywww.starthinker.com/images/cat.jpg :3
12:50.51kuinkittyLol
12:59.57Wardlol
13:00.30Wardany class can do 10 mobs at once with the right spec
13:00.40Wardfrost mages, prot warrior, BM hunters with a bear pet
13:00.52Wardpaladins of any class
13:00.54Wardspec
13:04.54StormgaleHai?
13:08.08Noxystabs Stormgale
13:09.22Stormscapeok wow
13:09.28Stormscaperunning back to Blood Furnace when you die
13:09.29Stormscapeas horde
13:09.30Stormscapereally
13:09.32Stormscapesucks
13:10.05StormscapeFor alliance it takes like, 45 seconds
13:10.08StormscapeHorde is like, 2 minutes
13:10.10Stormscapeat least
13:10.50StormgaleWhy noxy?
13:11.58StormgaleWhy the hate?
13:13.42NoxyCause I'm a grumpy.
13:13.54StormscapeWard I must suck because I couldn't do on my shadow priest while leveling
13:14.05StormgaleWell any thing I can do to cheer you up Noxy-chan?
13:14.14Stormscapecourse, back then having 50 spellpower at level 40 was a lot
13:14.25Wardwell Stormscape, Disc is the way to go while leveling :p
13:14.35StormscapeWard not in 2.0 it wasn't
13:14.44StormscapeDisc was loldisc
13:14.45Wardwell I'm talking now
13:14.54Wardwith heirlooms, OP dungeon rewards
13:15.15StormscapeYeah my priest has been max level for years
13:15.28WardI've rerolled every expansion
13:15.33Stormscapeugh I could never do that
13:15.37StormscapeI love my priest too much
13:15.37Wardbut not anymore, cba with achievements now
13:15.50Stormscapethat priest was my first character
13:15.57StormscapeDecember 8th, 2006
13:16.10Wardwell I have a gnome mage who has tier 2 and 3 and all the old naxx and AQ achievements, I got a belf mage with BT SWP achievements
13:16.18Wardand a human mage now with all the wotlk stuff
13:16.22WardI wish I could merge em
13:16.57StormscapeI wish I had remembered to give my mage some gold before I faction changed her
13:16.58Stormscapederp derp
13:17.20WardI would have investigated both AHs
13:17.32Wardlook for some stuff that is cheap on one realm and expensive on the other
13:17.39Wardand load up my bags with it before transfering :p
13:18.15StormscapeI faction changed, not realm transferred
13:18.21Wardoh
13:18.28Wardbut it still works
13:18.40Wardthere's huge difference between horde and alliance AH
13:18.48Wardor even better, buy those faction exclusive pets
13:18.56Wardand sell em for twice the price on the other faction
13:19.03StormscapeWard yeah on my server I'd lose lots of money going from alliance->horde
13:19.10Stormscapethe horde AH is saturated on this realm
13:19.13Stormscape100% saturated
13:19.29Stormscapeonly realm I've ever seen that has lion horns of stormwind on the AH
13:19.35Stormscapean item that stopped dropping in 1.10
13:19.57robokittyxD
13:20.23Stormscapeand the difference in big ticket items is huge
13:20.30StormscapePrimordials - 1000g Alliance, 400g Horde
13:20.56Stormscapethat terrible tanking gun from ICC trash - 9k Alliance, 1k Horde
13:21.05Stormscapeexcept it doesn't sell on either AH
13:21.08Stormscapebecause it's awful
13:21.29Limberoheh
13:21.43Limberocrosses fingers for trial account status to be removed
13:22.10Limberoooooooooooooooof course not
13:23.16StormscapeYou know, I remember when they first allowed being mounted in Undercity
13:23.27Stormscapepeople actually started going to UC because of that
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13:58.07StormscapeSo I'm up to 37k HP unbuffed on my warrior
13:58.09Stormscapewooooo
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14:05.08g0urraa guy asks for 19g to make Glyph of Molten Armor
14:05.09g0urrafuck that
14:05.23Stormscapelolwut
14:06.51StormscapeSo what enchant should I put on my heroics tank weapon
14:07.19Stormscapeobviously not zerking
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14:08.58g0urrablade ward
14:09.04g0urramongoose if durid
14:09.54Stormscapeg0urra, I'd feel like such a chump though, putting Blade Ward on Nighttime.
14:10.14g0urrahrm
14:10.33StormscapeI was thinking something to increase my unbalanced DPS even more
14:12.16StormscapeAlso I'm really torn between getting a tank trinket with my frost badges next versus a 3rd piece of T10
14:12.21Stormscapesince my current trinkets are awful
14:12.41StormscapeIck's Thumb + Onyxia Blood Talisman = ftl
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14:27.46LimberoFUCK
14:27.55LimberoI apparently just got permbanned from MW2
14:28.09Limberofor cheating
14:28.13LimberoI have never cheated in my life
14:28.19Limberoat COD
14:30.15Limberoif my brother did this
14:30.17Limberohe is so dead
14:33.47Limberoyay, my entire steam account is now VAC banned
14:33.52Limberosomeone will pay for this
14:34.17Raws:|
14:37.17Limberoffffffffffffffffffff
14:37.24Limberodicks
14:37.49RawsIs it possible to get unbanned?
14:38.49StormscapeSo can somebody explain to me what this obsession with deep wounds spec is?
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14:38.57StormscapeIs this some sort of spec for if you're bad at making threat?
14:39.04Stormscapeand therefore bad at warriors in general?
14:39.23winkwtf is VAC banned?
14:39.32LimberoValve Anti Cheat
14:39.49Limberobasically means I'm banned from playing multiplayer in most steam games
14:40.00Limberoif I ever cheated I wouldn't care if I was banned
14:40.04Limberobut this is pissing me off
14:40.05RawsVuvuzela Annoyers' Club
14:40.12kuinkittyStormscape, deep wounds = ~4-5% additional threat on single target in raids
14:40.17RawsWell, only playing on VAC-secured servers
14:40.21RawsNow you can play with your fellow cheaters!
14:40.29Limberoand Raws, Valve says VAC bans can never be lifted
14:40.35RawsOops
14:40.37Stormscapekuin, so basically bad at being a tank spec
14:40.43Limberowe'll se about that
14:40.46kuinkittyNo
14:40.51Limberonudges Valve with his sharpened elbow
14:41.15RawsAlso goon morning, stunspar
14:41.55Stormscapekuin I have like, a 10% crit rate while prot
14:41.59StormscapeI fail to see the point of deep wounds
14:42.13kuinkittyPlus raid buffs
14:42.16LimberoValve will regret ever banning me
14:42.22Stormscapewell ok there's incite, I forgot that part
14:42.22LimberoI'll take this to court if necessary
14:42.23Stormscape25%
14:42.30kuinkittyThat's like, 6% more. Incite = 15% more for HS / TC
14:43.16Stormscapeeven then, I was doing like 10k TPS on Marrowgar in a heroics tank spec
14:43.35kuinkittyIt's about maxing
14:43.40Stormscapewhy would I need to do more? it seems like e-peen stroking at that point
14:43.48kuinkittyWhy do paladins pick Crusade?
14:43.49kuinkittyThreat
14:43.56kuinkittyThat's 3% more damage to non-undead
14:44.15Stormscapethe difference is Crusade is a reliable flat damage increase
14:44.19Stormscapethis is a "lol hope u crit"
14:44.47kuinkittyYou WILL crit alo
14:44.48kuinkittyt
14:44.52starspunGoon morning Raws.
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14:45.38Limberois gotten grammatically correct?
14:46.22RawsGottenburg
14:46.49Raws(yes!)
14:46.53Limberoawesome
14:46.58Stormscapeso I'm looking at a popular builds list right
14:47.02StormscapeI found a really confusing one
14:47.07Stormscapeit has impale but no deep wounds
14:47.12StormscapeI mean come on wtf is the point of that
14:47.20Stormscapethat just gives me a headache
14:47.22kuinkittyNothing
14:47.36kuinkittyThumb rule: 5 or 15 for arms
14:47.52Stormscapehttp://www.wowhead.com/talent#LAM00bZhbZVItrx0zidIzsGo the scary part is this build ranked 6th in popularity
14:49.09kuinkittyhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent#LAM00fZhZmItrx0didIzsho:dbiMzo Is what I use
14:49.22Stormscapekuin but yeah I'm trying to figure out a "the healers are drinking paint thinner" survivability spec for tanking my guild's 25 man alt/pug runs on Saturday mornings
14:49.42kuinkittyPaint thinner
14:49.43kuinkittyHa
14:49.53kuinkittyGlyph of Shield Wall
14:50.00Stormscapekuin, I died 5 times on Saurfang
14:50.05Stormscapebecause they literally forgot to heal me.
14:50.11kuinkittyBad healers
14:50.17Stormscapeaka pug healers
14:50.32Stormscapethe other tank had to blow IBF for Gunship trash
14:50.44kuinkittyhttp://www.wowhead.com/talent#LAM00fZhZmItrx0didIzsho:dTiMzo Do this then
14:50.57Stormscapeand I had to use SW LS ER AND trinket just to not die on Deathwhisper trash
14:51.10kuinkittyLOL
14:51.13kuinkittySrsl :( bad healers
14:51.21Stormscapeyou linked the same guild twice
14:51.25Stormscape*build
14:51.28Stormscapedid you mean to do that?
14:51.36kuinkittyI did O.o
14:51.45Stormscapethreat is seriously not an issue, I get 1 misdirect from a guild rogue at the beginning
14:51.49Stormscapeand I have a 500k threat lead
14:51.51Stormscapethe entire boss
14:52.04kuinkittyI did it right; Check glyphs
14:52.18kuinkittyWhat kinda DPS'es you have? 6k?
14:52.42Stormscape2 10k and rest between 4 and 8
14:52.55Stormscapethe 10k are rogue alts from the guild
14:52.58Stormscapevery well geared rogue alts
14:53.12kuinkittyit's way more fun when your lowest is 10k
14:53.29Stormscapewell this is a pug run on a server where killing LK25 on normal makes you a god
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14:53.50kuinkittyHehe
14:54.12kuinkittyLast time we did a guildrun, our warrior and shaman lead the chart for +13k both
14:54.34kuinkittyEspecially warrior is chasing asses
14:54.50StormscapeI wish I had gotten to DPS
14:54.53Stormscapemy DPS set is pretty owning
14:55.09kuinkittyMine is pretty under construction
14:55.25Stormscapehave fun leveling 2 handed weapon skills
14:55.33kuinkittyYeah
14:55.35kuinkittyWhat I did was just
14:55.38kuinkittyQue for heroic
14:55.49kuinkittyor in raids, onetank trash
14:55.52Stormscapeugh, you just had to be "that guy" didn't you
14:56.01Stormscapethe guy in the heroic doing 12dps
14:56.05Stormscapebecause he's leveling weapon skill
14:56.09kuinkittyMore like 600
14:56.10kuinkitty:D
14:56.23Stormscapeyeah I went and beat on felguard commanders in Blasted Lands
14:56.27Stormscapeusing the dalaran training weapons
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14:56.45starspunI do VH trash. :D
14:56.51kuinkittyWhat I did on tanking weapons - mace mainly - I went to nadgrand
14:56.53starspunOr did.
14:57.07kuinkittyFound that fucking huge brown guy
14:57.10kuinkittyBack against wall
14:57.15kuinkittyAuto attack with 2.5 DPS weapon
14:57.16kuinkittyAFK
14:57.22RawsNadgrand, land of nads
14:57.33starspunLand of grand nads.
14:57.37kuinkittyYou rang?
14:58.12StormscapeI once mispelled Badlands
14:58.14Stormscapeas Baldnads
14:58.17Stormscapeit was epic
14:58.20kuinkitty-_-
14:58.29kuinkittyStormscape, I also usually do LK on SG spec
14:58.33kuinkitty(Safeguard)
14:58.38starspun"Baldnads burn my eyes"
14:58.39Stormscapekuin just switch the l and d and a and n
14:58.53StormscapeI don't think my warrior
14:58.56Stormscapewill EVER tank LK
14:58.57Stormscapeever
14:59.03kuinkittyI had like
14:59.15kuinkittyALMOST 5k emoscore when I tanked LK
14:59.15StormscapeSG spec = lol wats soul reaper
14:59.25kuinkittyYus
14:59.36kuinkittyAnd vile spiritzzzz
14:59.38Stormscapeintervene tank right before soul raper
14:59.39Stormscapeggg
14:59.52StormscapeI wonder
14:59.53kuinkittyLurtz Kungen is so srs bznz nau
15:00.06Stormscapeif you did a safeguard intervene on a dispersed shadow priest, would they survive fury of frostmoure?
15:00.21kuinkittyI doubt
15:00.27kuinkittySince
15:00.30kuinkittyIt's intented to KILL
15:00.32Stormscapeif they were in stamina gear they would
15:00.39Stormscapekuin, it only deals large damage, not instakill
15:00.48Stormscapea shadow priesti n my guild once survived it by wearing full PvP gear
15:00.50Stormscapeand dispersing
15:01.46Stormscapeit does 1M damage, so the goal here is resist enough + have PW: Shield from epic disco
15:01.49Stormscape100k through disperse, so the goal is to survive 100k damage
15:02.14kuinkittyhttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=70063 ?
15:02.21Stormscapeyup
15:02.54kuinkittyHits 1milj lol
15:03.13StormscapeAlso
15:03.14Stormscapehttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=72351
15:03.14Stormscaperofl
15:03.18Stormscape"Cannot resurrect"
15:03.45Stormscapehttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=72350 this is the one he uses in ICC
15:03.51Stormscapethe first one is the one used in HoR
15:04.22Stormscapeoh apparently Disperse + Pain Supression + PW: Shield works too
15:04.48Limberoticket sent
15:04.53Limberopreparing legal action
15:05.36StormscapeLimbero does not fuck around.
15:05.40kuinkittyEEEEEEXECUTE
15:05.46kuinkittyBLAM
15:06.03Limberothey should've thought again before they fucked with me
15:07.00starspunLol nerdrage.
15:07.47StormscapeSo kuin the disc priest in my guild has agreed to try it with me next time we kill LK
15:07.52StormscapeI'm gonna try to survive fury of frostmourne
15:08.03kuinkittyHaha
15:08.07kuinkittyPost results!
15:08.17StormscapeI'll fuckin rage if it's like
15:08.19Stormscape100 overkill
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15:09.16StormscapeAlso kuin is my guild evil for trolling gearscore tards in Trade
15:09.28Stormscapeit's the guild joke, do "what's a gs? never heard of it." in Trade
15:09.39Limberostarspun, did you hear what happened?
15:09.41Stormscapeand all the GearScore slaves foam at the mouth
15:09.47LimberoI got VAC banned without having cheated
15:10.02starspunYeah I assumed as much from reading after I logged on :p
15:10.04StormscapeDoesn't Valve have a "dispute banning" method?
15:10.07starspunStill nerdrage.
15:10.10Stormscapemost companies would
15:10.10rikaiLimbero: sure it wasn't someone else using your account? :P
15:10.25Limberoyes
15:10.42LimberoStormscape, "VAC bans are always permanent"
15:10.42Stormscapebrb making sammich
15:10.52Limberobut we'll see about that
15:10.56StormscapeLimbero, yeah I'm surprised this hasn't happened already
15:11.04Stormscapesince any sane company would allow people to dispute bans
15:11.05kuinkittyAh I love 2PT10 Fury tier bonus
15:11.17Limberowell, I sent a ticket
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15:11.31Limberorikai, nobody in the world knows my password(s)
15:11.46Domh123456? :p
15:11.52rikaiweren't you just saying it could have been your brother...? :P
15:12.18Limberorikai, he might know my windows passwor
15:12.19Limberod
15:12.31Limberohave known*
15:12.43Limberobecause he needed to use iTunes on my login
15:12.56DomhLimbero is using the past tense cause he killed his brother to prevent this
15:13.03Limberoyes
15:13.12Limberoand Domh, it's 654321
15:13.17DomhAha!
15:13.21LimberoI mean, it's a secret
15:14.02rikaihm, are you banned on all VAC servers, or just MW2 ones?
15:14.13Limberoall of them
15:14.21Limberomy Steam account is VAC banned
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15:17.04rikaiouch.
15:18.35poeticdragonLimbero: good morning
15:18.46Limberomore like fffffffffffffffffff morning
15:18.51rikaiHm, lets hope this levelling build i put together for this mage isn't crap. :D
15:18.52LimberoI've been VAC banned
15:18.58poeticdragonVAC?
15:19.00rikaihttp://www.wowhead.com/talent#of0VcuZ0EcbRhIuVubhct:VLiVzm
15:19.02Noxylicks Claire
15:19.03rikaipoeticdragon: steam
15:19.03LimberoValve Anti Cheat
15:19.09poeticdragonOh lol
15:19.18poeticdragonIs your trial status fixed yet?
15:19.18Limberomy WoW account is safe and sound
15:19.22Limberohang on
15:19.24poeticdragonI can gives you moneys
15:19.24LimberoI can check
15:19.26poeticdragonBefore raid
15:19.29Limberoit wasn't two hours ago
15:20.14Limberologging in
15:21.02LimberoI don't have permission to speak in trade still
15:21.07Limberoso that would be a no
15:21.37Limberodicks
15:21.39Limberonope
15:21.47Limbero"You don't have permission to do that"
15:25.31poeticdragonWhat payment method did you use?
15:28.22rikaiWow... i hate MW2 more and more every time i hear about it.
15:28.34DomhWhat is it, it can take 48 hours to validate?
15:28.42rikaiTheir VAC policy is zero mods period?
15:29.22rikaifor MW2 i mean.
15:31.14rikaijesus... looking at the VAC forum, sure seems like a lot of people are getting banned for MW2 way more than any other game: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35
15:32.05kuinkittyGoddamn that was some shitty Fury DPS in PoS HC
15:33.45robokittehPresumably because they're so shit at FPS they have to cheat
15:33.47robokitteh*hides*
15:34.52kuinkittyrobokitteh, did you eat all the titanium again?
15:35.53NoxyMowsey ping
15:36.15Noxyfewyn ping
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15:36.41Noxy6 past and I'm missing my raiders D:<
15:36.47robokitteh:(
15:41.40Noxy4 of them infact
15:41.45Noxywtf
15:48.14DomhWTB, 4 raiders. >_>
15:51.40fewynpoeticdragon,
15:51.42fewynnooper,
15:51.46fewynNoxy,
15:52.29fewynif either of you two just called me i accidently hit the ignore button when grabbing the phone
15:52.38Noxyit was wout
15:52.42Noxyi was trying to call Kara
15:53.26fewyni think i need a louder alarm clock
15:53.34NoxyMe too.
15:53.38robokitteh:(
15:53.55NoxyWe're still missing Berri, Mowsey, and Kara.
15:54.16robokitteh):
15:54.19malikeyemoo
15:54.35robokittehsics some kittens on Tolland
15:54.41malikeyewhat'cha y'all up to?
15:54.43malikeyeraiding?
15:54.47fewynabout to
15:54.49fewynas soon as i login
15:54.51malikeyenice
15:56.14NoxyWould be if everyone showed up on time.
15:56.28fewynSORRY
15:56.35fewyni really need a louder alarm clock
15:56.36NoxyHavent had this many people be late since... .. a long time, now.
15:56.50NoxyI knew it was too good to be true that we had everyone signed up for both days.
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15:57.10robokitteh:O
15:57.11fewyni don't know why wow is going slow as fuck opening up
15:57.19Noxycries into Claire's lap.
15:57.39robokittehhands Noxy a kitten to soak up the tears
16:00.08fewyni'm starting to get pissed off
16:00.22fewyni think my wow install is bad
16:02.08c4nn1b4levery wow install is bad
16:03.40malikeyehmm, my pitbull got hosed
16:03.47malikeyeI need to copy the settings from one realm to another
16:04.27fewynsigh i guess after raid if we raid i'll go and reinstall wow
16:08.44NiLonhttp://crap.fi/images/archive/7033.thumb2.png :)
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16:14.54NoxyWhere the fuck is Mowsey.
16:14.56Noxy):
16:15.02NoxySPAM PING
16:15.04NoxyMowsey
16:16.01fewynMowsey is a loser
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16:16.07fewynmore of a loser than me
16:16.15StormgaleHey Mowsey get here to shut Noxy Up
16:17.15malikeyedamnit... my pitbull stuff got lost completely
16:17.16malikeyewtf
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16:21.51malikeyewhat's a good bag addon that works with gear sets?
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16:29.39ari5avmaterializes
16:29.44ari5avgood afternoon internerds
16:34.58StormgaleGood Afternoon To you too good sir
16:35.19starspunOh teh noes, it's an ari5av
16:35.29ari5avwhat? where?!
16:35.47fewynwhat what in the butt
16:35.52ari5avok so you ready for some bullshit
16:36.00ari5avgm demoted me from officer
16:36.16ari5avsimply because I put up a portal to stonard when we were running RS
16:36.29fewynlol
16:36.35ari5avlock puts up a portal for cookies, I put up one for mage food
16:36.36fewynthat's funny
16:36.41ari5avand then after, I was like eh
16:36.43fewynwhat you should do
16:36.48ari5av"hey guys, click this one too"
16:36.49fewynput up all the portals in one spot
16:36.52ari5av*stonard*
16:37.07winklol
16:37.10fewyntime to play portal slots!
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16:37.13ari5avi can't, they're on a shared 1m cd and they last 1m
16:37.18fewynwait
16:37.21Djane...
16:37.23Djaneno they're not./
16:37.26fewynwhat?
16:37.28ari5avthey were last I checked
16:37.37ari5avis it not shared?
16:37.39DjaneNo they are not, and haven't been since i started playing
16:37.45ari5avsigh
16:37.47fewyni thought so!
16:37.47ari5avbbl.
16:37.59DjaneEach portal has a 1m cooldown, but it's not shared.
16:38.06DjanePortal roulette is a time honoured mage tradition
16:38.52Djanefewyn, the best thing is when it's at the end of a 25man raid, and you have 4 mages
16:39.05Djaneall shuffle up onto the same spot and cast nigh on simultaniously, and spam portals.
16:39.10Djanethen it's 20 portals on top of each other
16:39.27fewynyeah
16:39.50Djaneespecially hilarious when there's actually only one dalaran portal
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16:43.27Molfsontanhttp://www.imagehut.net/images/vlk23feslzv2gg4v8.jpg Would it be terrible to wear this around my colorblind friend?
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16:44.10starspunYes. Do it.
16:44.29MolfsontanI must find the place that sells it.
16:44.46DjaneErrr
16:44.48DjaneFail.
16:44.58DjaneColour blind people are often still entirely capable of discerning shades
16:45.07DjaneAnd the writing would be clear as hell.
16:46.02MolfsontanReally now?  Have you seen that image which is similar to the heart on this shirt that says "Fuck the color blind"?
16:46.12MolfsontanMy friend can't read that in the least.
16:46.23MolfsontanThere are different kinds of color-blindness.
16:46.29DjaneI am quite aware.
16:46.52DjaneBut it's not colour blindness if they don't see anything instead of the colour, its actual blindness.
16:47.32MolfsontanTo him, as he told me, the shades are hard to discern.
16:48.10Djaneshow me the picture.
16:48.42starspunhttp://tshirthell.vo.llnwd.net/e1/shirts/products/a559/a559_bm.gif
16:50.23DjaneYes, that's hard to discern without being colour blind.
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16:51.09DjaneIt's a challenging image for the eyes to pick out, being colour blind will make it harder in so far as the contrast is to a lesser degree
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17:26.30ari5avfuck yes, there's a concert in my city today
17:26.37ari5avsublime and matisyahu
17:26.48ari5avshould be pretty sick
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17:40.04Domhcasts summon Mowsey
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17:41.34fewyncasts Death on Mowsey
17:53.00Herrickcasts lag on fewyn
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18:01.38kuinkittyA man walks into the bedroom with a sheep under his arm while his wife is lying in bed reading. He Says "This is the pig I have been shagging when you have a headache". His wife says "I think you will find that is a sheep". Man says "I think you will find i was talking to the sheep"
18:03.02fewynlol
18:03.20stufrofl
18:04.04c4nn1b4lkuinkitty: old
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18:06.30Mowseyfuck
18:06.34Mowseyffffffffffff
18:06.39Mowseyfucking overslept
18:07.07winkwe know, Mowsey
18:07.08fewynyeah right
18:07.09winkwe know
18:07.14Mowsey):
18:07.28winkbut fret not
18:07.30winkonly 2h!
18:07.35Domh2.5
18:07.37NoxyMowsey: No shit.
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18:09.04stufkuinkitty: also, do you know that the german mcdonald's slogan sounds hilarious to the finnish people who know the term "jonne"
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18:10.27winkstuf: why?
18:11.32stuf"Ich liebe ES"
18:11.38stufhue hue durr
18:13.37normaneeh?
18:14.47stufonly funny for imageboardfag finns
18:15.20stufalso, i think it's time for daily lfg!
18:15.39stuf80% exp to level, then it's northrend time
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18:23.30normangogogo!
18:25.03StormgaleBut here is the question, Are you Wrathful enough for northrend
18:28.02Juippiswhat
18:28.07Juippisnorthrend sucks
18:28.25Juippisleveled 1-70 in like 5 days and 70-73 has taken me so far 2 weeks
18:28.28Juippisjust cba anymore :-(
18:28.42normaneeh, 2 weeks? thats your fault
18:28.56normangot to 80 in 5 hours something gametime
18:29.30Juippisfrom 70?
18:29.34normanfrom 1
18:29.39normaneeh
18:29.39Juippisraf?
18:29.40norman5 days
18:29.43normansorry
18:29.44Juippisaa okay
18:29.48Juippisyea
18:29.51JuippisI don't know
18:30.00Juippisdungeon queues to northrend instances are like 40 min
18:30.08Juippisand I don't like questing
18:30.21JuippisI have epic flying mount but just everytime I log in I end up afking while waiting for dungeon
18:30.25Juippisand dungeons are crap XP
18:30.31Juippisoverall
18:30.53Juippisdid 64-70 via battlegrounds
18:30.55Juippisthat was fast
18:31.01Juippisbut now BG queus are long as well
18:31.28Juippisin outland I never advanced further than hellfire peninsula what it comes to quests :-P
18:31.48normanquests are fine in nortrend
18:31.53normanesp. with epic flying mount
18:32.02normanI only had a normal one
18:32.15Juippisyea I was so positive about myself that "I'm gonna quest my way to 80!"
18:32.18Juippisbut just
18:32.19Juippiscan't
18:32.21JuippisI don't know
18:32.44normanand dungeons are a lot exp. only finished the fjord and half of borean tundra before i turned 80
18:33.24Juippisyou had fast queues?
18:33.26JuippisI'm dps
18:33.42Juippisseriously I sit 30-40 minutes in a queue :-P
18:33.45normani'm dps too. queues were around 15-20 minutes each
18:33.54normanbut just use the time for questing
18:34.18normanwith the new system its SO easy to quest while doing dungeon, because you are ported to the instance and back
18:34.30Juippisyea I've been trying
18:34.32Juippisbut just
18:34.36normanno more waiting for some idiots that dont come to the dungeon, or flying over the whole continent
18:34.37Juippisend up afking in some corner :-\
18:34.41Juippisheh
18:34.42Juippistrue
18:34.46normango doyour quests!
18:34.53Juippis:-P
18:35.02JuippisI'll be right back my kebab arrived
18:35.19MolfsontanYou get delivery kebabs?
18:35.31stufhell yea
18:35.37stuffinland wouldn't work without delivery kebab
18:37.24starspunEnvy :(
18:37.29starspunAll we have over here is delivery pizza.
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18:46.10Molfsontanhttp://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1947#comic :3
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19:00.44starspunHow can something be so hilariously stupid and highly entertaining at the same time as wrestling is :|
19:02.05MolfsontanWell, you are seeing well-oiled men play-fight each other and use ridiculous moves.
19:02.19MolfsontanSo, what can't be entertaining about that?
19:02.25starspunThe acting is so loltastic
19:05.02stufbut finland sucks for one reason - no delivery chinese food :<
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19:05.23starspunstuf, yeah that bugs me about Norway too, or at least Trondheim
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19:13.15temThe Heroic section of the Lich King article is very inaccurate
19:13.36rosemountHI Tem
19:14.11temThe description of how to handle Shadow Trap is only minorly off.  It makes it sounds like you can control where the shadow trap will be by moving after he has decided the target
19:14.44temwhich isn't possible since it's instant cast, and it goes wherever the targeted player was when it was cast
19:14.56rosemountHang on
19:15.11fewyn78x [Greater Cosmic Essence] 4x [Dream Shard] 673x [Infinite Dust]
19:15.34temVal'kyrs in phase 2 drop their players when they reach 50% instead of when they die like in normal mode (the article says they stop at 1)
19:15.53temAt that point they fly up above the raid casting a drain life on raid members
19:16.10temit's possible for an off tank to taunt them to keep the damage in one place (and easily healable)
19:16.22fewynwait what tem?
19:16.29temHeroic Mode Lich King
19:16.56fewynreport the issue with the feedback tool
19:17.01tembah
19:17.02fewyni've honestly never done heroic lich king
19:17.07temthat's what this channel is for imo
19:17.12starspunNo it's not.
19:17.21starspunThat's what the feedback tool is for.
19:17.21temheh
19:17.26temoh boy
19:17.35temlet's get all angry at me for trying to help out
19:17.43starspunNo one's angry.
19:17.54fewynyeah
19:18.02fewynjust  report it and it'll be researched and fixed
19:18.02starspunJust telling you to use the feedback tool to report it rather than this channel.
19:18.35rosemounthttp://www.wowhead.com/npc=36597#contact
19:19.16rosemount[21:18:29]<ArgentSun>Yea, I suspected the val'kyrs fly at 50%
19:19.17rosemount[21:18:45]<ArgentSun>I'll go fix those in a little while, got a bunch of phone calls to make
19:19.19rosemount[21:18:50]<ArgentSun>tell the guy I thank him
19:19.21rosemountThanks tem
19:19.35temnp
19:19.46Corganis listening to Wicked Little Town (Tommy Gnosis Version) by Various Artists from Hedwig And The Angry Inch
19:19.50Corganom nom nom
19:20.08temThere's also some stuff funky with the Wicked Spirits in the Frostmourne room
19:20.15temit'll be in the feedback I submit.
19:20.23rosemountThanks! :D
19:22.36temI'm mostly just surprised that wowhead's article was wrong, and it must have been wrong for a while
19:23.24fewynWell not everyone on the content team has done heroic lk
19:23.34fewynwe were going on second-hand knowledge at the time it was written
19:23.40temit's a fantastic fight
19:23.49rosemounthehe
19:23.51temone of the most fun I've ever learned
19:25.23CorganSO
19:25.25CorganI FOUND THIS SHACKLE KEY
19:25.39Molfsontan[Return by Deine Lakaien on 20 Years Of Electronic Avantgarde CD2]
19:26.32Corganis listening to Hold My Hand by UNKLE from War Stories
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19:29.15Corganhrmph
19:29.19Corganmax of 5 runs per hour
19:29.23Corgan60 runs
19:29.27Corganminimum of 12 hours =\
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19:31.20Mowseyrun faster
19:32.07fewynawe poor Corgie
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19:32.51Corgan12 hours is nothing compared to what i've done for it so far :p
19:33.02fewyni know
19:37.42fewyni keep trying to fly when i'm in stormwind :(
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19:45.30robokittyclimbs all over Corgan
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19:52.21robokittyhops around
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19:54.22Domhsedates robokitty
19:54.40Domhhands the robokitty over to the vet for roboneutering
19:55.26robokitty:(
19:55.48robokittyhow rude
19:57.19DomhHow rude?  On a scale of 1 to 10, a 7.5
19:57.22Corganhrmph
19:57.47robokittySee, Corgie agrees
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19:58.06Corgan~(21000-1421)/(350+75)
19:58.07infobot46.068235294118
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19:59.22rosemountyou're getting closer and closer to the answer to life, the universe, and everything else
20:00.02Corganoh u
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20:00.05robokittyOr
20:00.11robokittyhe has 44 runs left to do
20:00.16Corganwell
20:00.22CorganOgre Tannin is 75 rep per turnin
20:00.23CorganI have 17
20:00.28Corganand I get guaranteed 1 per run
20:00.30Corgansometimes 2
20:00.43Corgankeys are 350, and I get (most of the time) 1 per run
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20:09.24robokittyolol
20:09.34robokittyfound a full video with Pearl Jam at Roskilde 1992 <3
20:10.13robokittyamusing simply for Eddie Vedder getting into a fight with the security personnel, who thought he was trying to invade the stage xD
20:10.34starspunAt least it's the 1992 video and not the 2000 one D:
20:10.43robokittyyeh
20:10.56robokittyalas there's only 1 or 2 vids from 2000 I know of
20:11.10starspunThat's just :(
20:11.22starspunWhat happened that is :p Not that there's only a couple of videos
20:11.27robokittyyeah
20:11.35robokittywas entangled in that for a while as well
20:11.51robokittymy luck I had to leave early since my volunteer shift started at midnight
20:12.13starspunOoohh. That was lucky.
20:12.24robokittyyeh
20:12.59robokittyand it's bloody weird, because the only thing I remember from the concert is that a) I can't remember hearing any of the music and b) seeing people doing 'trains' to get closer to the stage
20:14.18robokittyanyway, video tiems :3
20:14.30starspunHf, enjoy :)
20:15.31robokittyshould make my youtube followers happy, I post various Roskilde Festival video oddities from time to time xD
20:15.46Mowseyties jingly bells to robokitty
20:15.57Mowseynow it's even easier to follow robokitty!
20:15.59robokittychases Mowsey
20:16.04MowseyOH GOD D:
20:16.06Mowseyruns
20:16.14robokittycatches Mowsey and climbs all over
20:16.59robokittyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY_DuXBSn7Y o/
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20:30.23Djanefewyn,
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20:38.38starspunThere's a double rainbow outside :D
20:38.46starspunWHAT DOES IT MEEEAAN?!?!?!?
20:39.32normanluck and health ;)
20:40.09starspunYou haven't seen that video huh
20:41.19starspunhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSNhk5ICTI
20:43.58kuinkittystuf
20:44.35normanoO
20:45.28OwkkuriOo
20:45.41Owkkuriguy sounds like mitch hedberg :P
20:45.46stufkuinkitty: sup
20:46.30normanwhat's wrong with the guy?
20:47.28kuinkittystuf,  < stuf> kuinkitty: also, do you know that the german mcdonald's slogan sounds hilarious to the fi....
20:47.31kuinkittyWAT?
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20:50.57stufwat
20:51.32stufstarspun: seen this as well? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0D4oZwCsA
20:51.49fewyndododododo
20:51.53starspunIf it's the rainbow song, no
20:51.55fewyni am trying to do loremaster
20:51.59starspunBusy watching something else now :P
20:52.05stufNO
20:52.06stufRIGHT NOW
20:52.08stufFFFFUUUU
20:52.08kuinkittystuf
20:52.08kuinkitty<PROTECTED>
20:52.09starspunNo.
20:52.11kuinkittyExplain
20:52.12fewynabout half way done with kalimdor
20:52.14kuinkitty:<
20:52.16stufkuinkitty: "Ich liebe ES"
20:52.18stuf;<
20:52.22kuinkittyHAHAHA
20:52.24stufROR
20:52.35kuinkittyLAWL
20:52.57stufmy friend's brother's name is Jonne. and he's working in Spain. ESpanja.
20:53.04normanwhat's so funny about it?
20:53.17starspunProbably something that would be lost in translation for non-finns :p
20:53.46stufkindof yeah
20:53.50kuinkittyIt's non-american and non-british, it can't be lame
20:54.10normanit's german ... and you can interpret it in different ways, depending on context
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20:55.15kuinkittystuf, LOL, I have this one girl in MSN, on webcam con with her.. She tells shit jokes etc, and I started making faces
20:55.21kuinkittyForgot she can see me
20:55.22kuinkittyLol
20:55.25kuinkittynow she's mad
20:55.32starspunLolfail kuin
20:55.36kuinkitty:d
20:55.38kuinkittyOrly
20:55.45starspunYarly
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20:55.56stufkuinkitty: rofl
20:56.27kuinkittyI like, rolled my eyes constantly, and shaked my head
20:56.31kuinkittyDid FACEPALM IRL etc
20:56.57stufoh wow
20:57.03stufyou became an semi hero
20:57.06kuinkitty:D
20:57.07kuinkittyLol
20:58.00stufhmm, i have work tomorrow lol
20:58.05stufand i am tired: hell no
20:58.12kuinkittyLol
20:59.18stufi'll go and take a shower and then think about sleep again
20:59.38stufalso, still funny: http://twitter.com/dubstepquotes
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21:16.20kuinkittyhttp://www.kuvalauta.fi/fap/src/128002113821.jpg
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21:18.39stuflol
21:18.44stuffeels strange to go to work tomorrow
21:18.48stufalmost 5 week vacation
21:18.54stufHOW WILL I MANAGE
21:20.06normando! not! go! :)
21:20.06robokittyyou won't
21:20.10robokittyhands stuf a rope
21:22.55stuf:<<
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21:27.27fewynSTARCRAFT 2 TOMORROW NIIIIGHT
21:27.59ArkaenTomorrow night?
21:28.05ArkaenYou mean Tuesday morning?
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21:34.54kuinkittyhttp://www.kuvalauta.fi/b/src/128005711071.png
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21:38.01kuinkittyhttp://www.kuvalauta.fi/g/src/127970063050.jpg lol, i got one too
21:39.30robokittywat
21:39.34robokittyI don't :(
21:39.49robokittyI have a peculiar coloured spot though
21:40.28starspunAll I have there is a bone. :p
21:40.30robokittyIt's cyan and apparently embedded below my skin :3
21:41.37kuinkittybone...d
21:42.18starspunUgh. Lol so apparently my chat windows refuse to stay where I put them since the patch :(
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21:45.06robokitty:(
21:45.08starspunI haven't logged in much since RS was put in how many weeks ago? >_> But every time I log in again, the windows have popped back up
21:45.14starspunIt bothers me D:
21:45.15robokitty1 month
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21:54.04Limberosomething weird is up with me
21:54.17LimberoI might be having some kind of anxiet yattack
21:54.25Limberoanxiety attack*
21:54.52Limberoeverything I hear sounds like it's done at 10x the speed than it actually is and much louder
21:55.00Limberoit's kind of scary
21:55.55Limberoprobably only hearing related though when I think about it
21:56.10Limberobecause I can cancel away the effect by talking
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21:56.19Limberonvm
21:56.20LimberoI can't
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21:57.39Limberothis is offically scary
21:57.45LimberoI tried putting on some music
21:57.54Limberoand it sounds directly threatening
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21:58.40ArkaenLimbero: Go hang out with some bears
21:58.45ArkaenThat'll calm you down
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21:58.52Limberothis is really creepy
21:59.11Limberoand I don't see how bears could help without killing me
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21:59.17Limberooh well
21:59.19Limberoto bed
21:59.28Limberoworst case scenario I wake up even crazier
21:59.29ArkaenBears don't kill
21:59.30starspunHang out with bears -> play dead -> instant calm.
21:59.34ArkaenThey politely ^
21:59.42Limberokay
22:00.47LimberoI got rid of it
22:00.52Limberophew
22:01.05Limberogood night
22:01.57starspunis now listening to: 12 Stones – Fade Away
22:02.21Arkaen[18:01:56]* starspunis now listening to: 12 Stoners – Fade Away
22:03.32starspunYes.
22:13.42Mowseylistens to starspun listening to starspun listening to some random song I've never heard of
22:14.12starspungoes to close the window.
22:16.23robokittysneakity-sneaks
22:16.32Djaneboggles boggle in the boggling boggler.
22:16.54CorganDDDDDDjane
22:17.02Corgan<3
22:17.05robokitty:|
22:19.26Mowseychews on robokitty
22:19.56robokitty:<
22:20.00robokittyjingles
22:21.19starspun:< I'm gonna need to redo my UI.
22:21.40Ziconstuffs Hello Kitty and Pikachu into starspun's UI.
22:21.58starspun:D kyoot.
22:22.08Djane...
22:22.15DjaneYou don't stuff things into -my- UI.
22:22.18DjaneJust into my mailbox.
22:22.24robokittyD:
22:22.28starspun:D
22:22.44robokittyI need to redo mine at some point as well
22:22.45starspunI approve.
22:22.58Ziconrobokitty: Hello Kitty?
22:22.59robokittyeven though I don't really feel like doing so
22:23.01robokittyNo
22:23.28robokittyhttp://mmad.dk/wow/WoWScrnShot_061910_221733.jpg it can get a bit confusing at times :D
22:23.44ZiconFeeling strange urge to make a custom Hello Kitty-based texture now.
22:24.35robokittyfairly sure there's already a handful of them out there atm :P
22:24.46ZiconBut they're not made by ME!
22:25.10robokittyD:
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22:25.22starspunThis hello kitty? http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:9v23MJEzGMDJPM:http://api.ning.com/files/s7N8eWGdX4B*5wjgoM4JpBLf8JS0D3HxVslmJjNeH918LjTbA8mjwaPfBxUvKPgM5oJVtRkn4aes39ii6UIgXHNWdUv3YQEE/goth_hellokitty_large.jpg
22:25.28starspunHoly long url
22:25.46ZiconI can't actually access that URL. I can't see all of it.
22:25.47robokittyalso
22:25.48robokittygod damn
22:26.04ZiconShortinate it up for me!
22:26.08robokittyI need an addon that will fix the 'heals appearing over other chars'
22:26.18starspunIt was tiny anyway, let me find another. D:
22:26.45ZiconYou have an hour, I'm off to watch Top Gear. \o/
22:26.56starspunOkay I can't find a bigger version.
22:27.02robokitty>:(
22:27.08starspunOh I could.
22:27.09robokittyI'm still downloading it :<
22:27.12starspunBut it looks like shit :D
22:27.15starspunhttp://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h148/purple_pandora/hello%20kitty/goth_hellokitty_large.jpg
22:27.33robokittypft
22:27.43robokittyhttp://i32.tinypic.com/2zjgmxf.jpg is what you want
22:27.55robokittyxD
22:27.57starspun:D
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22:34.08StarkieThis game is awesome
22:34.28fewynwhat game
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22:35.14Djanefewyn,
22:35.16StarkieMinecraft
22:35.22DjaneSomeone on my server is selling Iceblade arrows.
22:35.24Djane20,000, in singles.
22:35.28fewynDjane,
22:35.31fewynlolwut?
22:35.34DjaneStarting from 1 copper each, going up to 10k each
22:35.39fewynlol
22:35.50fewyni thought about getting into the arrow market
22:35.59fewynbut primoridial saronite :|
22:36.01Mowseyo_O
22:36.13DjaneIndeed, it's a little late now to do it, really.
22:36.22DjaneTHe margins are low
22:36.26fewynyeah
22:36.36DjaneYou'd make just as much gold farming the shadows and selling them
22:36.41fewynyeah
22:36.55Djanebut on the patch, man.
22:37.00DjaneI was selling shadows for 40g each
22:37.04fewynit was great money back then
22:37.08fewynwish i thought of it
22:37.08Djaneyup
22:37.08fewyntbh
22:37.20fewynwhat i really want
22:37.24fewynis to have every profession
22:37.26fewynfor cataclysm
22:37.30Djanemhmm
22:37.31fewynall on one server
22:37.36fewyni could rule the world
22:37.40fewynRULE I TELL YOU
22:37.42Djanebetween myself and zicon i think we have that covered.
22:38.48fewynalmost finished with farscape
22:38.53fewynhalf way through season 3 on netflix
22:38.53Juippis!!
22:38.56Juippisfarscape
22:38.59fewynthen i have to find a place to download season 4
22:39.02Juippisremember to watch the movies
22:39.09DjaneYes
22:39.10fewynyea there's one movie
22:39.13Djaneand the peacekeeper things
22:39.13fewynpeacekeeper wars
22:39.14starspunLol, I couldn't even get through the first episode of Farscape :\
22:39.24Juippisyou're sad starspun
22:39.25fewyni totally wish i watched it back then
22:39.29Juippisoh man
22:39.30fewynwhen it first came out
22:39.34Juippisshould make it retro
22:39.41Juippisand watch babylon 5 again
22:39.45fewynbut then again i had no taste in television back then
22:39.51fewyni recently tried to watch babylon 5 again
22:39.54fewyndidn't really like it
22:39.56starspunHaha, Babylon 5. I remember watching :D
22:39.58starspunAfter school.
22:40.01Juippisit's awesome
22:40.29Corgan60 or 65 for tier
22:40.33Corgan10
22:40.56Djane60 and 96
22:40.59Djane5
22:41.18Djanecorgan, my bear druid has 4 piece Tanking T10, 4 piece Resto T10
22:41.21Djane4 piece moonkin T10
22:41.25Djaneand 2 piece feral dps T10
22:41.33Djanethat is, the druid in my guild
22:41.54Corgan:p
22:42.13DjaneYeah
22:42.17Djanehe's not allowed tier tokens anymore :P
22:42.44CorganI still dont' have 4pc 264 moonkin
22:42.44Corgan:(
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22:45.00DjaneZicon,
22:45.01Djanehttp://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/project-3348.aspx
22:45.07Djanebest/worst.addon.ever?
22:50.17robokittyD:
22:50.32robokittytrips over Djane
22:51.04fewynhrm
22:51.10fewynmy poison macros aren't working in beta
22:51.24robokittyserves you well
22:51.46fewynah
22:51.47fewynno
22:51.51fewynthey changed poisons
22:51.54fewynonly one version
22:51.56fewynthey scale with level
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22:52.47JuippisDjane: the fuck is this :-D
22:53.01DjaneJuippis, everytime you die, it plays an emo song.
22:53.18Djane(I assume)
22:53.24robokittyNo, every time he dies, it plays an Eno song
22:53.28robokitty^_^
22:53.31DjaneNow see, I'd actually use that.
22:53.52robokittyTime for some Music for Airports and tinkering with FS9 AI
22:55.12JuippisHow could this happen to me? - Simple Plan
22:55.14Juippishahahahahahahahha
22:55.32DjaneJuippis, it's an addon i'm seriously tempted to stealthinstall on peoples pc's.
22:56.58robokittyrecruits Zicon to do it on Fermy's
22:57.36starspunSomeone's killing my damn elder stranglethorn tigers >:|
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22:59.42starspunBut Djane, comments say it's not working anymore :<
22:59.51KnofleHello mr. wowhead communitites! Just wondering if you are continuing the lovely trend with the beta key contest stuff you did last year?
22:59.51starspunIs that bullshit? :p
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23:04.40starspunLol
23:05.54starspunI was just about to get ganked by some shaman when I had my eyes on my other monitor... but a higher level hunter intervened and saved my ass, then said "I'm a hero of the Alliance! HERO! YEAH! They got served!"
23:06.30starspunSaid hunter is a member of the <Lavatory Love Machine>
23:06.37Juippisstarspun: let me guess that hunter was nelf male
23:06.50starspunDraenei female.
23:07.06Juippisdamn rprs rolling female draeneis nowadays...
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23:28.51Stormscape[16:25:23] [G] [80:Eryamor:2]: jamaican me crazy mon
23:30.52Ziconrobokitty: lolwut?
23:31.45Ziconstarspun: Yes, that Hello Kitty does indeed look like shit.
23:49.27Juippiskuinkitty kuinkitty
23:49.29Juippiskuinkitty
23:49.31Juippiskuinkitty: you there?
23:49.41kuinkittyYES
23:49.44Juippis"My friends girlfriend is 17 and he just turned 18 last week and they got caught having sex tonight. And her parents want to press charges even though it was consensual and I think (I'm not sure) but their birthdays are within 6 months of each other. Are they able to press charges still?"
23:49.49JuippisAMUUUUURICAA
23:50.15Juippishttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#United_States
23:50.26Mowseypretty sure that's consensual
23:50.44Juippisand just for the record in finland we would beat those guys not SUE them
23:50.45Mowseyor not
23:50.46Juippishow lame is that
23:50.56kuinkittyJuippis, God help this world (or please even nuke US)
23:51.04Mowsey12 states, the AoC is 18 o.O
23:51.19MowseyI don't think he'd be sued
23:51.31MowseyHe'd be labeled a sex offender for the rest of his life and spend a couple years in jail
23:51.34Juippisamerica country of possibilites
23:51.37Juippishe gonna get sued
23:51.37Juippishaha
23:51.42Mowseywhich is even worse
23:51.47Juippisfor having sex with 6 months younger
23:51.49Juippisgoing to jail
23:51.55Juippishahaha
23:51.56Mowseyand the rest of your life
23:52.00Mowseyevery time you move
23:52.06Mowseyyou have to tell everyone in the area you're a child molester
23:52.14Mowseyyou have to have a parole officer
23:52.19kuinkittyI could have sex with 6 years younger without going to jail
23:52.20Juippisthat'll teach him not to have sex before marriage!
23:52.23Mowseyprobably can't go near schools
23:52.25kuinkittyFinland, FUCK YEAH
23:52.40MowseyAmerica, FUCK YEAH
23:52.46Mowseycomin' again to save the motherfuckin' day yeah
23:52.49kuinkittyFixed: Fuck NO
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