| 00:00.48 | Zicon | No thanks, I'm full. |
| 00:01.34 | Stormkitty | blademeld you ready for some lulz |
| 00:01.42 | Stormkitty | http://ncix.com/products/?sku=34094 check out what $200 can buy you |
| 00:01.47 | blademeld | no? |
| 00:05.01 | blademeld | Stormkitty: what's that? |
| 00:06.01 | Stormkitty | blademeld: a piece of plastic with screw holes to put a motherboard on |
| 00:06.09 | Stormkitty | and EVGA wants $200 for it |
| 00:06.21 | blademeld | ???????????? |
| 00:07.31 | jonn | why would you want that, Stormkitty |
| 00:08.01 | Stormkitty | jonn, you wouldn't. You put your motherboard on a cardboard box like a proper nerd |
| 00:08.22 | jonn | its a very niche product |
| 00:08.25 | jonn | of course its expensive |
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| 00:09.54 | blademeld | grape |
| 00:18.10 | kullervo | I just got the best idea ever |
| 00:18.26 | kullervo | let's say there are ten mages in a 25-man raid |
| 00:18.40 | kullervo | but they're not at the boss yet as it's not been pulled |
| 00:19.11 | kullervo | instead, 5 of the mages are in ZA and rest are in ZG, where trash has been cleared apart from Juggernauts |
| 00:19.53 | kullervo | and these mages are summoned to the boss at once after they all spellsteal the earthquake buff |
| 00:20.41 | kullervo | now, can you imagine Cho'Gall p2 before the first add spawns? |
| 00:22.46 | Djane | Not really doable. |
| 00:23.11 | Djane | How long does the buff last? |
| 00:23.18 | kullervo | 2 minutes |
| 00:23.30 | kullervo | the mages should be able to zone in 10 seconds tops |
| 00:23.39 | Djane | You can't accept a summon in combat. |
| 00:23.50 | kullervo | hooray for invisibility |
| 00:24.14 | Djane | remind me what the earthquake buff does? |
| 00:24.28 | kullervo | procs a minor earthquake under the melee target |
| 00:24.54 | kullervo | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=97987/tectonic-plating |
| 00:25.07 | kullervo | so on average 20k dps from it |
| 00:25.13 | kullervo | and you can cast instants while meleeing |
| 00:25.17 | kullervo | I think it also stacks |
| 00:27.53 | kullervo | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/nozzbozz/advanced |
| 00:28.00 | kullervo | what's the 40 int enchant in the OH? |
| 00:28.24 | Djane | Standard BiS OH achievement |
| 00:28.27 | Djane | Can't remember what it's called |
| 00:32.46 | Gnarfoz | "Warning: Your changes haven't been saved!" ... what does it mean...? and why is it at the top of my character's profiler pages? :< |
| 00:32.55 | Djane | your changes, they have not been saved. |
| 00:33.37 | Gnarfoz | thanks captain obvious |
| 00:34.00 | Djane | You're welcome. |
| 00:34.11 | Djane | I must depart, for another stupid question might be being asked elsewhere. TO THE SKIES! |
| 00:35.33 | Gnarfoz | sadly, you're the stupid one. as I can read and write, it can be assumed that I understood the message but was still puzzled why it's there, seeing that I *made* no changes that could be saved (or not saved) |
| 00:35.56 | fewyn | Gnarfoz profiler is broken |
| 00:36.10 | Gnarfoz | yay |
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| 00:54.16 | Djane | kullervo, how much dodge/parry/miss+block do you sit at raid buffed? |
| 00:56.03 | kullervo | uh.. 98% or so |
| 00:56.44 | kullervo | why? |
| 00:59.46 | Djane | curious, really. |
| 00:59.59 | Djane | Also. I just had an idea, I'm sure it's an idea many people have had, but I want to test viability. |
| 01:00.03 | Djane | Chimareon is at 21% |
| 01:00.09 | Djane | You're about to push the phase, you tell the dps to stop. |
| 01:00.14 | Djane | You have DK's spawn armies of the dead. |
| 01:00.23 | Djane | They spawn, they taunt. |
| 01:00.25 | Djane | You push the phase. |
| 01:00.28 | Djane | Lololol? |
| 01:01.18 | kullervo | or just have the DK spawn it at 21%? |
| 01:01.47 | Djane | That's what I jsut said. |
| 01:01.50 | kullervo | without telling dps to stop |
| 01:01.56 | Djane | Army needs time to taunt |
| 01:02.04 | Djane | Since they can't taunt during P2. |
| 01:02.09 | kullervo | oh good point |
| 01:02.19 | kullervo | better have it cast at 2% then |
| 01:02.40 | kullervo | because really stopping at 21% won't do much thanks to dots and whatever :P |
| 01:02.55 | Djane | Yes. |
| 01:02.55 | kullervo | bah really where does the 40 int enchant come from |
| 01:03.01 | Djane | offhand |
| 01:03.11 | Djane | It's a vendor recipe, I'm sure of it. |
| 01:03.26 | kullervo | enchant off-hand |
| 01:03.36 | kullervo | cheap one too |
| 01:03.39 | kullervo | why had I not heard of it |
| 01:04.54 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Maingear's New Tier of Gear Contest: What Achievement Are You Most Proud Of? - http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=188867/maingears-new-tier-of-gear-contest-what-achievement-are-you-most-proud-of |
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| 01:16.22 | Gnarfoz | Djane: army doesn't taunt bosses |
| 01:17.35 | blademeld | it did in WotLK |
| 01:17.38 | blademeld | didn't it? |
| 01:18.31 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't now, regardless of when they changed it ^^ |
| 01:19.29 | Djane | Gnarfoz, oh, yes. I forgot about that change. Meh. |
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| 01:28.46 | Djane | anyone know if pets and other things can still split damage of caustic slime on Chimareon? |
| 01:28.55 | Djane | Specifically, snake traps? (Just like good ol heroic putricide) |
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| 01:32.15 | Mew | I am trying to free up some space on my hard drive, and looking at my WoW directory, I'm wondering if it's safe to purge the contents of the updates folder. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 01:32.32 | kullervo | remove all update files |
| 01:34.59 | fewyn | yeah you can delete the updates folder mew |
| 01:35.27 | Mew | Thanks, that cleared up almost 5 gigs. Got an older computer, so don't have a very large hard drive. |
| 01:35.42 | Djane | fewyn, where are you progress wise nowadays? |
| 01:36.16 | fewyn | we recently kill maloriak and the other dude that isn't the blind dragon |
| 01:36.49 | fewyn | didn't make any progress this week because one of our tanks had a paper due |
| 01:36.56 | Mew | Chimaeron? |
| 01:37.00 | fewyn | yeah him |
| 01:37.29 | Djane | ahh cool |
| 01:37.35 | Djane | Atramades is a fun fight |
| 01:37.48 | fewyn | yeah we were going to do that this past week, might get a chance tomorrow night |
| 01:37.49 | fewyn | we'll see |
| 01:38.03 | BlackNet | yea atramedes is a fun fight. |
| 01:38.06 | BlackNet | so is omni |
| 01:38.07 | Mew | I bet it is, I haven't experienced it yet, but my group is planning on possibly attempting him tomorrow night. |
| 01:38.26 | Djane | It's a bit of a rageful fight if people keep screwing up gongs and sonic breaths |
| 01:39.03 | Mew | though, the group I'm in, being 7/12 normal modes, was only put together about 3 weeks ago. lol |
| 01:40.03 | Mew | ok, another question. |
| 01:40.13 | Mew | data/cache |
| 01:40.17 | Mew | is that necessary at all? |
| 01:40.28 | fewyn | it'll just be regeneratecd |
| 01:40.31 | fewyn | so yes you need it |
| 01:40.51 | Mew | I see, I'll leave it as is then |
| 01:40.55 | fewyn | you know the thign where it says applying non-critical updates? |
| 01:40.58 | fewyn | that's it |
| 01:41.35 | Mew | 62.5 MB repair-on-demand.log file. o_O |
| 01:41.43 | fewyn | you can get rid of a log file |
| 01:42.42 | Mew | ok, trimmed down to about 27 gigs for the installation |
| 01:42.59 | fewyn | my wow folder is about the same |
| 01:43.18 | fewyn | i do have half a gig of screenshots i should probably clear out |
| 01:43.56 | Mew | I could probably nuke all of the WoW-* patches too. |
| 01:44.40 | fewyn | i have a 1tb drive |
| 01:44.45 | fewyn | i dont care about space anymore |
| 01:44.49 | fewyn | if i run out LOLBUYANOTHER |
| 01:45.35 | Mew | I've got 150 gig drive, dual booting XP and 7, ... and no expansion space to LOLBUYANOTHER |
| 01:45.55 | Stormkitty | buy 2TB drive |
| 01:45.56 | Stormkitty | clone it |
| 01:45.58 | Stormkitty | prophet |
| 01:46.28 | Mew | System lacks an extra SATA connector to do so. |
| 01:46.39 | Stormkitty | wat |
| 01:46.40 | Mew | stupid dell optiplex. |
| 01:46.46 | Stormkitty | Your first problem |
| 01:46.49 | Stormkitty | is buying a Dell |
| 01:46.55 | Mew | it was a gift. |
| 01:47.18 | fewyn | your second problem |
| 01:47.26 | Mew | If I had a choice, I would've custom-built my system. |
| 01:47.29 | fewyn | is you should have slapped the person who gave you the gift |
| 01:47.34 | Stormkitty | That's not a gift |
| 01:47.36 | Stormkitty | It's an insult |
| 01:47.57 | fewyn | the only dell you should buy is laptops because they are actually decent |
| 01:48.00 | Stormkitty | ^ |
| 01:48.03 | fewyn | desktops are horribad |
| 01:48.09 | Stormkitty | Also because it's not like you can custom build a notebook |
| 01:48.16 | Stormkitty | Unless you're mega ultra geek |
| 01:48.19 | fewyn | actually you can |
| 01:48.21 | Mew | oh well, this '05 desktop is still running quite well. |
| 01:48.46 | fewyn | i've had like 3-4 computers since '05 |
| 01:48.51 | Stormkitty | Same |
| 01:49.25 | Stormkitty | Also I could build a computer better than your Dell for about |
| 01:49.26 | Stormkitty | $900 |
| 01:49.40 | Mew | ... doesn't comment, as he usually gets into a lot of rage, ... ... ... |
| 01:49.45 | fewyn | i could probably do it for 500$ |
| 01:49.54 | Mew | and if I had that kind of money, I'm sure I could too. |
| 01:49.56 | Stormkitty | fewyn yeah this one would be Sandy Bridge so it'd be like |
| 01:49.59 | Stormkitty | 43638036807680 times better |
| 01:50.06 | Stormkitty | as opposed to just 436 times better |
| 01:50.07 | fewyn | ah |
| 01:50.08 | fewyn | yeah |
| 01:50.42 | Stormkitty | Actually lemme check the price |
| 01:50.55 | Stormkitty | C$1062 with tax for full computer sans monitor keyboard and mouse |
| 01:51.04 | Stormkitty | that's assuming you have a way to get your own RAM |
| 01:51.13 | Stormkitty | reuse from other system/friend/etc |
| 01:51.53 | Mew | I'm going to take a wild guess, but Canadian dollars? |
| 01:52.19 | Stormkitty | Yes |
| 01:53.01 | fewyn | so like 2 fiddy american? |
| 01:53.04 | Mew | that'd be about $1,103.54 here in the U.S. .. |
| 01:53.30 | Stormkitty | No it wouldn't because you assholes have Newegg |
| 01:53.55 | Mew | http://www.newegg.ca/ |
| 01:53.58 | Stormkitty | worthless |
| 01:53.59 | Stormkitty | and expensive |
| 01:54.33 | Stormkitty | I've never heard of anybody I know ever actually buying anything from Newegg |
| 01:54.43 | Stormkitty | Yet their Canadian site stays up |
| 01:54.49 | Stormkitty | So there's some saps SOMEWHERE buying from them |
| 01:56.20 | Mew | newegg.ca is owned and operated by the same corporation that newegg.com is operated by. |
| 01:56.34 | Stormkitty | A. ripoff prices |
| 01:56.36 | Stormkitty | B. ripoff shipping |
| 01:56.40 | Stormkitty | C. horrible site design |
| 01:57.14 | Mew | hmm, I wonder, everything is imported from the U.S. as far as I know. Blame your government taxes? |
| 01:57.18 | blademeld | rips off Stormkitty's kidney |
| 01:57.24 | Stormkitty | NCIX. A. great prices |
| 01:57.27 | Stormkitty | B. no shipping charges |
| 01:57.31 | Stormkitty | C. perfect site design |
| 01:57.33 | Stormkitty | PROBLEM NEWEGG |
| 01:57.41 | Mew | whatever |
| 01:57.51 | Stormkitty | Also |
| 01:57.53 | Stormkitty | s/US/China/ |
| 01:58.30 | Stormkitty | Actually, s/China/Asia/ |
| 01:59.15 | Stormkitty | my hard drives? assembled in Malyasia. Motherboard? Taiwan. Monitor? Japan. keyboard? China. CPU? Again, Malaysia |
| 02:00.33 | Stormkitty | steals blademeld's knees |
| 02:01.16 | blademeld | eats Stormkitty's fingers, slow-cooked |
| 02:01.34 | Stormkitty | nuuuuuuuuuu |
| 02:03.44 | blademeld | Stormkitty: Canada computer beats NCIX prices for my computer specs that I'm building right now |
| 02:03.50 | blademeld | Canada computers* |
| 02:03.54 | Stormkitty | blademeld, pricematch |
| 02:06.20 | Stormkitty | Also, I like how Canada Computers appears to be basically |
| 02:06.23 | Stormkitty | East Coast NCIX |
| 02:06.31 | blademeld | Stormkitty: 1-3 days for price match and 3-5 days shipping time versus me walking into the store? |
| 02:06.49 | blademeld | shrugs |
| 02:06.57 | Stormkitty | 3 days to ship from Markham |
| 02:06.58 | Stormkitty | wat |
| 02:07.20 | blademeld | I don't know how long the shipping is |
| 02:07.23 | blademeld | I just guessed |
| 02:07.49 | Stormkitty | Also depending on time of day, I've had price matches approved in like |
| 02:07.50 | Stormkitty | 2 hours |
| 02:08.12 | blademeld | in the end, NCIX price match doesn't really offer anything |
| 02:09.40 | blademeld | I mean Best Buy, you price match because they give 10% of the difference |
| 02:10.18 | Stormkitty | True |
| 02:10.27 | Stormkitty | I only price match NCIX because I can just pick it up in-store |
| 02:10.47 | blademeld | HEH |
| 02:10.50 | blademeld | MYTHBUSTERS |
| 02:10.54 | blademeld | SLAPPING MACHINE |
| 02:10.59 | Stormkitty | I LOVED |
| 02:11.00 | Stormkitty | that episode |
| 02:12.03 | Stormkitty | ugh, Macfags fapping about Intel Thunderbolt. I see a lot of problems with Thunderbolt already, namely: where are you going to get a device that writes at 1.25GB/s? |
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| 02:20.55 | Djane | Stormkitty, i think a guildee looked it up |
| 02:21.04 | Djane | basically notrhing short of a multimillion pound machine can transd |
| 02:21.08 | Djane | transfer that fast |
| 02:21.30 | jonn | Djane: futureproof |
| 02:21.38 | jonn | you think they could hit the usb cap when they designed it? |
| 02:21.38 | Djane | foolish |
| 02:21.41 | Djane | buy it in the future, it's cheaper. |
| 02:21.48 | jonn | you could hit it |
| 02:21.49 | Djane | buy it now when you can't use it AND it costs more. |
| 02:21.50 | jonn | with monitors |
| 02:22.07 | jonn | changing standards is expensive |
| 02:22.12 | Djane | there's no point being future proof if it will cost less in the future. |
| 02:22.24 | jonn | thats foolish |
| 02:22.24 | Djane | for 99% of usuers, thunderbolt is pointless right now. |
| 02:22.38 | blademeld | Djane: but you forget |
| 02:22.40 | blademeld | it's NEW |
| 02:22.41 | jonn | right, because there are not many devices |
| 02:22.42 | blademeld | NEWWW |
| 02:22.43 | blademeld | NEEEEW |
| 02:22.45 | blademeld | NEWEWEWEW |
| 02:22.49 | Djane | Heh |
| 02:22.49 | blademeld | NNNNEWWEWEW |
| 02:23.04 | jonn | devices are hitting the usb cap |
| 02:23.14 | blademeld | usb 2.0 or 3.0? |
| 02:23.20 | jonn | both |
| 02:23.22 | Djane | Snickerdooddle. |
| 02:23.30 | blademeld | usb 3.0 is half of thunderbolt |
| 02:23.40 | jonn | usb3 never really caught on |
| 02:23.43 | blademeld | and 2.0 is more used |
| 02:23.51 | BlackNet | OH COOL |
| 02:23.52 | blademeld | exactly |
| 02:23.55 | jonn | intel killed off usb 3.0 |
| 02:23.57 | blademeld | no one uses 3.0 |
| 02:24.00 | BlackNet | WKG just got realm first for heroic big al |
| 02:24.04 | Djane | blademeld, i believe that's called Owned. |
| 02:24.09 | Djane | and jonn doesn't even realise. |
| 02:24.16 | blademeld | Djane: meh |
| 02:24.22 | blademeld | he might get my point later |
| 02:24.43 | blademeld | BlackNet: I don't know what wkg is |
| 02:25.15 | jonn | bladekitty: of course the older standard is more popular |
| 02:25.38 | Djane | thunderbolt is worthless to 99.99% of users. |
| 02:25.47 | blademeld | giggles |
| 02:25.48 | jonn | currently |
| 02:25.58 | Djane | and it costs more now, than it will in the future. |
| 02:25.59 | Djane | Ergo. |
| 02:26.05 | Djane | It's stupid to buy it now, when you could just buy it in the future. |
| 02:26.14 | jonn | Djane: nobody will produce products if nobody has the connector for it |
| 02:26.14 | blademeld | continues giggles |
| 02:26.16 | blademeld | continues giggling |
| 02:26.28 | jonn | plus, you might want to use it in the future without replacing your entire computer. |
| 02:26.56 | Djane | Welcome to using a computer that you can replace parts in without replacing the whole thing |
| 02:26.59 | Djane | Commonly referred to as a PC. |
| 02:27.38 | jonn | I really doubt the cost of thunderbolt was that signifigant anyway, to be honest |
| 02:27.41 | blademeld | replaces Djane's toes |
| 02:28.27 | jonn | apple always embraces strange standards anyway |
| 02:28.31 | Djane | toes are stronger, faster, smarter and they train whilst he sleeps. |
| 02:28.56 | Djane | Anyways |
| 02:29.08 | Djane | time to watch SW:4 and play MnB:Warband |
| 02:29.56 | Djane | Double monitors like a pro. |
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| 02:32.06 | Stormkitty | Thunderbolt right now isn't futureproofing |
| 02:32.09 | Stormkitty | it's technology fapping |
| 02:32.12 | Stormkitty | Look at firewire |
| 02:32.17 | Stormkitty | they claimed it would replace USB |
| 02:32.20 | jonn | but thunderbolt is backed by intel |
| 02:34.22 | kullervo | I wonder why armory doesn't yell about missing offhand enchant |
| 02:34.32 | Stormkitty | because armoury is bad |
| 02:34.32 | kullervo | I didn't even know one existed before today |
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| 03:35.35 | kullervo | this one time in 2v2 I saw "40k absorbed" in my scrolling combat text when I cast Templar's Verdict vs a mage. |
| 03:36.12 | kullervo | the damage that actually got through shall remain a secret |
| 03:37.49 | Stormkitty | 2 |
| 03:37.51 | Stormkitty | :P |
| 03:47.52 | kullervo | ... thousand |
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| 07:12.07 | doom | i have updated java and flash rebooted cant seem to figure it out |
| 07:12.58 | stuf | js enabled? |
| 07:14.02 | doom | ya |
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| 13:01.27 | Parall4x | Arp arp arp arp arp |
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| 13:10.55 | wink | Spoof spoof spoof spoof spoof |
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| 13:11.31 | BlackNet | wtf all reports i pull from wol gives me an internal server error |
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| 13:27.41 | Stormkitty | So I can't remember which Windows 7 keys I have used and which ones haven't been used in long enough to be reused. |
| 13:28.04 | bladework | lol |
| 13:28.20 | bladework | I guess I should pirate Win7 as well later |
| 13:28.30 | Stormkitty | bladework this is what happens when you have 11 Windows 7 CD-keys |
| 13:28.53 | bladework | Stormkitty: you should send me some :P |
| 13:29.14 | Stormkitty | Lemme check which key my system is using first |
| 13:29.18 | Stormkitty | I might have an Ultimate key for you |
| 13:29.48 | Stormkitty | okay yeah that ultimate key hasn't been used lately |
| 13:29.49 | bladework | Oo |
| 13:30.17 | Djane | i'm saddened by the fact that I have actually found a legitimate use for the darkmoon card : Earthquake. |
| 13:30.29 | Stormkitty | wow, really |
| 13:30.47 | Djane | Heroic Chimareon. The on us, 11k health is not affected by the healing reduction. |
| 13:30.52 | Stormkitty | Win |
| 13:31.00 | Djane | So during P2, once I go down to 1, i pop it and buy an extra 10 seconds for the dps. |
| 13:31.29 | bladework | Stormkitty: you do realize I have bladekitty open which I just copied and pasted the code to instead of writing it down |
| 13:31.30 | bladework | :P |
| 13:31.37 | Stormkitty | WHATEVER |
| 13:31.51 | Stormkitty | You're on your own for getting an ISO of course |
| 13:32.20 | Stormkitty | Also no gurantees on if the key will still work after April 2013 |
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| 13:38.51 | BlackNet | Djane what's your dps on your prot paly? |
| 13:39.12 | BlackNet | on a raid boss |
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| 13:43.10 | wink | over 9000! |
| 13:44.36 | Djane | It is usually over 9000 |
| 13:44.47 | Djane | Depends on the boss. |
| 13:44.59 | kullervo | Djane: 102.16% coverage with windwalker proc, somewhat more with the Finger proc |
| 13:45.11 | Djane | kullervo, yummy |
| 13:45.18 | Djane | what's your gear level at? |
| 13:45.28 | Djane | 10k on magmaw, 14k on valiona. 25-30k on heroic halfus. 7-8k on heroic maloriak |
| 13:45.29 | kullervo | 354 average in the tank set |
| 13:45.32 | Stormkitty | On a scale of 1 to 10, how ghetto am I for not bothering to get a pair of pants fixed for over a year, opting instead to use a safety pin to keep them done up |
| 13:45.36 | kullervo | dps? |
| 13:45.43 | Djane | kullervo, gemming full mastery? |
| 13:45.48 | kullervo | pretty much |
| 13:45.55 | Djane | mhmm, that must be the difference |
| 13:46.05 | Djane | i'm only at about 90% coverage. |
| 13:46.14 | kullervo | I've a few stam/mastery gems and in red sockets mastery/parry |
| 13:46.25 | Djane | got an armoury link? |
| 13:46.32 | kullervo | I think I logged off in pvp gear |
| 13:46.40 | Djane | sadface |
| 13:46.44 | kullervo | yep |
| 13:46.50 | Djane | how much block do you have? |
| 13:46.52 | kullervo | >runed ring of the kirin tor |
| 13:47.00 | kullervo | over 60% |
| 13:47.06 | Djane | :| |
| 13:47.30 | Djane | I don't understand why you have so much more avoidance and mitigation than me when I outgear you. |
| 13:47.43 | kullervo | do you have ANY offensive stats on your gear? |
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| 13:47.55 | kullervo | my reforging is all from parry -> mastery, dodge |
| 13:47.58 | Djane | 1% hit, 0 expertise, 77 haste. |
| 13:48.04 | Djane | i.e very little |
| 13:48.10 | Djane | and since i'm in full 359's, that should compensate |
| 13:48.19 | kullervo | because I have zero hit and mastery from gear |
| 13:48.31 | kadrahil | 0 mastery, wat |
| 13:48.36 | Djane | 207 ratings worth of non survival stats |
| 13:48.51 | Djane | That is not worth 12%+ coverage. |
| 13:48.55 | kullervo | s/mastery/expertise/ |
| 13:49.02 | kadrahil | o |
| 13:49.13 | Djane | kullervo, ahh hang on, using two avoidance trinkets? |
| 13:49.17 | kullervo | yes |
| 13:49.23 | kullervo | I find the stamina to not matter |
| 13:49.30 | Djane | that's where it's at. |
| 13:49.40 | kullervo | Mirror and Finger |
| 13:50.05 | Djane | Still |
| 13:50.26 | Djane | If i use the alchemy stone and earthquake, i'm still at only err |
| 13:50.35 | Djane | 13+14+5 for miss+53 |
| 13:50.40 | Djane | 85% |
| 13:50.53 | kullervo | which food? I also use elixirs |
| 13:51.03 | Djane | this is unbuffed |
| 13:51.14 | kullervo | okay, I had full raidbuffs |
| 13:51.22 | kullervo | though unbuffed I'm at ~92% coverage |
| 13:52.03 | Djane | I don't get where you're getting so much block from |
| 13:52.12 | Djane | how much mastery rating do you have? |
| 13:52.33 | kullervo | some ridiculous amount |
| 13:52.33 | kullervo | I'll check in a moment |
| 13:52.57 | Djane | I'm clearly doing -something- wrong |
| 13:53.01 | Djane | I just can't see what that something happens to be. |
| 13:54.59 | Djane | 12.14% dodge, 13.77% parry, 57% block |
| 13:55.11 | Stormkitty | So, pro tip: PSP doesn't support WPA2-PSK |
| 13:56.05 | kadrahil | WPA2-PSP |
| 13:56.26 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/SS-2011-05-09_16.56.23.png |
| 13:56.37 | kullervo | 3004 mastery rating |
| 13:56.51 | Djane | ...how so much. |
| 13:57.27 | kullervo | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/vji/advanced |
| 13:57.32 | Djane | Even if i change -all- my gems into mastery |
| 13:57.34 | Djane | Pure mastery |
| 13:57.43 | Djane | I'd only JUST reach 3000 and i outgear you, i'm in BiS gear... |
| 13:59.30 | kullervo | so perhaps the BiS isn't so BiS after all? :P |
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| 13:59.50 | Djane | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/cherana/advanced |
| 13:59.56 | kullervo | and I know for a fact it's possible to reach 102.4% passive coverage with current gear levels |
| 14:00.00 | Djane | Apart from the neck and the weapon |
| 14:00.14 | Djane | Hmm, and the shield. |
| 14:00.16 | kullervo | hahahahahah your set looks absolutely moronic |
| 14:00.39 | Djane | Huh |
| 14:00.41 | kullervo | for some reason |
| 14:00.49 | Djane | It's not shown my tanking gear. |
| 14:00.54 | Djane | Although the items are there. |
| 14:01.04 | Djane | It's shown a mixture of healing and tanking |
| 14:01.28 | kullervo | yeah I think it's the fact the chest & shoulders differ from the main color scheme so much |
| 14:01.39 | kullervo | and the pose doesn't help either |
| 14:01.40 | Djane | They don't in my actual gear. |
| 14:01.52 | Djane | Healing weapon and shield, too. |
| 14:02.01 | Djane | Ok, so your neck is clearly better. |
| 14:02.19 | kullervo | even the justice neck is better than yours |
| 14:02.24 | Djane | Nah, not really. |
| 14:02.35 | Djane | Or rather |
| 14:02.37 | kullervo | mine is a minor upgrade to it and actually has less coverage |
| 14:02.40 | Djane | Not for the content I was doing at the time. |
| 14:02.54 | Djane | When I picked up that neck I was doing nef and al'akir |
| 14:02.58 | kullervo | but the avoidance is mildly higher so the damage taken goes down |
| 14:02.59 | Djane | So the stam was more valuable than avoidance |
| 14:03.10 | kullervo | al'akir as paladin D: |
| 14:03.18 | kullervo | I'll just force a warrior to tank it in the future |
| 14:03.30 | Djane | Yeah, it's painful. |
| 14:03.34 | kullervo | such insipid bullshit, all a paladin is good for is to cause trouble to the healers |
| 14:03.36 | Djane | On the other hand, glyphed divine protection is amazing |
| 14:03.47 | kullervo | is it fixed now? |
| 14:03.54 | Djane | I wasn't aware it was broken. |
| 14:04.11 | kullervo | it used to reduce the damage reduction of Guardian so I skipped it when picking up glyphs en masse after starting again in Catalysm |
| 14:04.27 | Djane | Oh, eww, yeah I think so. |
| 14:04.58 | Djane | 67 mastery over 101 stam, yeah I'm ok with that |
| 14:05.26 | kullervo | hmm? |
| 14:05.34 | Djane | i'm still using 101 stam gems |
| 14:05.38 | Djane | for my JC |
| 14:05.44 | Djane | needs to be updated. |
| 14:05.46 | kullervo | I see |
| 14:06.14 | Djane | That's 200 mastery right there. |
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| 14:06.43 | Djane | my trinkets are better, although less coverage |
| 14:06.58 | kullervo | imo Earthquake is just terrible ;| |
| 14:07.05 | Djane | (note the earthquake is -purely- for chimareon, I am slowly working towards mirror, and i normally use symbiotic worm |
| 14:07.32 | kullervo | ait |
| 14:07.46 | Djane | Although If i'm getting near the coverage cap |
| 14:07.54 | Djane | I'll want to switch to Mirror or the dodge one |
| 14:07.56 | Djane | Off valiona |
| 14:08.18 | Domh | D: Wow does DX11 now. Time for a new video card! |
| 14:08.24 | g0urra | slooooooow |
| 14:08.28 | kullervo | Domh: it looks no better |
| 14:08.32 | g0urra | ^ |
| 14:08.36 | Domh | But it's there! |
| 14:08.43 | g0urra | and? |
| 14:08.46 | kullervo | I'll get to stack avoidance after the new gear comes out |
| 14:08.48 | Domh | Must be bleeding edge! |
| 14:08.54 | g0urra | why |
| 14:09.06 | Domh | Because I'm trying to be sarcastic :/ |
| 14:09.11 | g0urra | oic |
| 14:09.17 | Domh | Trade Chat on Velen is talking about it |
| 14:09.19 | g0urra | it's like people who think it's better to have more than 50 FPS |
| 14:09.19 | kullervo | probably won't reach levels like before |
| 14:09.23 | g0urra | since it's all about numbers |
| 14:09.42 | kullervo | g0urra: I like to have more than 60 so it actually refreshes with my screen :P |
| 14:09.44 | Djane | kullervo, well, we should happily table coverage in the next tier unless they decide to nerf our ratings each tier. |
| 14:10.07 | g0urra | kullervo: wut, you need 60 fps to make it refresh? |
| 14:10.23 | kullervo | g0urra: no, I meant to sync it |
| 14:10.36 | kullervo | bbl eating my brain needs glugose |
| 14:10.43 | g0urra | I'm all between 30 and 50 FPS and it runs smooth |
| 14:10.43 | g0urra | so |
| 14:11.06 | Domh | He's just talking about having it run in native vsync |
| 14:11.08 | kullervo | g0urra: I was all between 20 and 50 fps and HOLY SHIT did the game look a lot better on my friend's machine where it ran at over 60 |
| 14:11.15 | kullervo | and what domh said |
| 14:11.35 | g0urra | I don't see what's the point but ok |
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| 14:14.59 | Djane | kullervo, unbuffed, 90.54% coverage. |
| 14:15.02 | Djane | That makes way more sense now. |
| 14:15.30 | Domh | nice |
| 14:15.38 | Domh | My pally is only at 73 |
| 14:15.56 | Domh | Of course I still need heroics gear on it |
| 14:22.10 | Djane | 63% block. |
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| 14:26.02 | robokitty | meows |
| 14:26.11 | Djane | 63% block robo :) |
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| 14:27.17 | robokitty | :o |
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| 14:28.27 | kullervo | maybe I should trade the holy wrath glyph for the rebuke one for some fights |
| 14:28.34 | Djane | Yeah |
| 14:28.36 | Djane | I do that a lot |
| 14:28.45 | Djane | nef is probably the most obvious |
| 14:29.03 | kullervo | yeah... Wasn't a fun surprise that I couldn't regen enough mana after casting holy radiance |
| 14:29.09 | Djane | aye |
| 14:29.28 | robokitty | :P |
| 14:29.35 | Djane | I think i've done that myself. |
| 14:29.40 | kullervo | and I panicked, forgot about the belf racial so we wiped |
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| 14:29.53 | robokitty | xD |
| 14:29.55 | Djane | holy radiance, tra la la divine guardian. Judgement on cooldown, Arcane torrent |
| 14:29.56 | Djane | I'm fine. |
| 14:30.04 | Djane | OH GOD WHY AM I OOM FROM INTERUPTING? Must stop dps. |
| 14:30.11 | robokitty | you should be, since wind shear can't miss |
| 14:30.42 | robokitty | eh |
| 14:30.54 | Djane | This was before I glyphed it robo :p |
| 14:30.57 | robokitty | didn't know that wind shear also has a 2 sec silence component o_o |
| 14:31.00 | Djane | Yus. |
| 14:31.06 | robokitty | oh well, the more you know |
| 14:32.38 | Djane | one of these days I'll actually go ahead and finish tol barad dailies |
| 14:33.39 | Djane | Mirror is so very BiS for a lot of fights. |
| 14:34.49 | kullervo | Djane: I'd say it's BiS for all of the fights |
| 14:34.59 | Djane | Nah, only where the on use is usable. |
| 14:35.09 | kullervo | predictable |
| 14:35.29 | Djane | I'm also thinking about heroic modes in that |
| 14:35.35 | kullervo | of course you could try to guess when the random damage's going to hit :P |
| 14:35.49 | Djane | H:Magmaw, nef, al'akir, all BiS, easily. |
| 14:35.58 | kullervo | Cho'Gall |
| 14:36.06 | robokitty | meh |
| 14:36.07 | Djane | Yup |
| 14:36.16 | Djane | Probably heroic atramades |
| 14:36.25 | robokitty | on Cho-ho-ho, Djane usually isn't the one taking the flame hits to the face |
| 14:36.30 | Djane | True enough |
| 14:36.34 | kullervo | but tbh at Nef I get binary resists like 20% of the time even if I don't use the trinket |
| 14:36.47 | Djane | (well actually I am robo I just take much less damage than anyone else :P) |
| 14:36.52 | robokitty | pft |
| 14:36.53 | Djane | Since i t end to pop my cooldowns appropriately. |
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| 14:37.05 | Djane | I have divine prot up for every fire fist to the face. |
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| 14:37.33 | Djane | But it's definitely not BiS for H:Chimareon |
| 14:37.52 | kullervo | yeah perhaps not that |
| 14:38.00 | kullervo | even I used a stamina trinket for it |
| 14:38.28 | bladework | Djane: are you on nef 10/25 n/h? |
| 14:38.30 | kullervo | we could've downed it with the group we had but the retridin was a wee bit silly and for instance had to be explained how to taunt |
| 14:38.56 | Djane | bladekitty, 10man guild, we've killed nef normal, Haven't got back to nef heroic. |
| 14:39.10 | robokitty | oh god |
| 14:39.12 | robokitty | do not want |
| 14:39.16 | robokitty | except the loot ofx |
| 14:39.18 | robokitty | ofc* |
| 14:39.31 | Djane | Indeed. |
| 14:39.37 | Djane | I doubt we'll reach heroic nef |
| 14:39.40 | robokitty | *shakes fist at mace* |
| 14:39.48 | Djane | We're only at 2/13 heroic, although soon to be 4/13 heroic. |
| 14:39.56 | kullervo | also how can a retribution paladin with righteous fury NOT do enough TPS? |
| 14:40.03 | Djane | ...I don't know. |
| 14:40.07 | Djane | we have a dk in Blood |
| 14:40.08 | robokitty | being bad? |
| 14:40.13 | kullervo | likely |
| 14:40.21 | kullervo | I've known he is bad since he joined the guild |
| 14:40.33 | robokitty | though didn't they change RF recently? or is that in the 4.2 patch? |
| 14:40.51 | kullervo | he's old too, he was getting uppity last night so our raid leader went "Oh but you're really fucking old right? Other foot in the grave hehehe" |
| 14:40.57 | Djane | hmm? |
| 14:40.58 | robokitty | xD |
| 14:41.02 | Djane | Changing RF? |
| 14:41.04 | g0urra | kullervo: do you have a ret pala kiting the adds in p1? |
| 14:41.09 | g0urra | (guessing nef) |
| 14:41.24 | kullervo | no this was heroic chimaeron |
| 14:41.30 | kullervo | at Nef we have a mage or DK |
| 14:41.50 | g0urra | I tanked the adds in p1 as ret pala. I died 3 times >_> |
| 14:41.56 | robokitty | xD |
| 14:41.56 | g0urra | no separate attempts ofc |
| 14:42.01 | g0urra | on* |
| 14:42.02 | kullervo | the chimaeron heroic attempts were a week ago |
| 14:42.16 | g0urra | we finally killed nef last night though |
| 14:42.20 | g0urra | 8 ppl alive |
| 14:42.29 | robokitty | pft |
| 14:42.29 | kullervo | now I ownder how I'll train this new tankadin to become decent |
| 14:42.32 | g0urra | add tank died at 5% |
| 14:42.35 | robokitty | 1 person alive |
| 14:42.38 | robokitty | that's a proper kill |
| 14:42.40 | kullervo | he did goddamn 4k DPS on Chimaeron last night |
| 14:42.53 | kullervo | robokitty: "bunny kill" they call it in my guild |
| 14:42.53 | Domh | kullervo, I have a tankadin. Train me to be decent at it too :p |
| 14:42.55 | g0urra | robokitty: on our al'akir kill we had 2 DK and 1 holy priest left |
| 14:43.02 | g0urra | on the last 15% |
| 14:43.06 | kullervo | <Fear the Rabbit> |
| 14:43.23 | robokitty | http://i.imgur.com/36vOp.jpg :3 |
| 14:43.36 | kullervo | hah |
| 14:43.45 | kullervo | hm.. shame there are stun DRs now on holy wrath though |
| 14:43.58 | Djane | Is that really relevant? |
| 14:44.03 | Djane | Due to cooldown on it? |
| 14:44.09 | bladework | robokitty: nice |
| 14:44.12 | kullervo | you do realise the cooldown is shorter than the DR |
| 14:44.31 | kullervo | also, multiple paladins |
| 14:44.32 | Djane | Yes, but for instance on nef add kiting, you won't use it on cooldown either. |
| 14:44.48 | Djane | and additional stuns will probably get the tank killed unless incredibly well timed. |
| 14:45.13 | Djane | You use it just after you've pulled the mobs out of shadowblaze range. |
| 14:45.29 | Djane | assuming they'res no creeping fire, which is something like once every 20 seconds or so |
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| 14:46.08 | kullervo | yeah the fire, goddamn |
| 14:46.11 | kullervo | I hate that fight already |
| 14:46.17 | Djane | Agreed |
| 14:46.34 | robokitty | ^^ |
| 14:52.13 | Domh | sigh. Back to farming AV for honor so I can get JP for the mage :p |
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| 15:12.13 | kullervo | my <5 months old headset crackles when playing certain frequencies |
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| 15:12.28 | kullervo | such as females on teamspeak |
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| 15:12.55 | kullervo | I should probably try to get these changed |
| 15:17.03 | kullervo | http://drmcninja.com/ |
| 15:17.06 | kullervo | check it out, murlocks |
| 15:17.16 | kullervo | -k |
| 15:21.14 | bladework | IRISH NINJAS |
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| 15:31.29 | robokitty | kullervo, could be worse, my hearing aids spazz out at random noises and present it as static |
| 15:36.14 | bladework | guh |
| 15:36.35 | kadrahil | no u |
| 15:38.55 | bladework | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9216520/Android_passes_BlackBerry_in_U.S._smartphone_survey |
| 15:38.58 | bladework | WHEEEEE |
| 15:43.05 | kadrahil | tranquilizes bladework |
| 15:44.29 | bladework | dies from drug overdose |
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| 15:53.31 | robokitty | Bob Raws, Otto von Ingham? :| |
| 15:53.47 | Raws | My cousin's puppy |
| 15:53.53 | robokitty | oh right |
| 15:53.58 | Raws | They came over for dinner last night |
| 15:54.07 | robokitty | thought it a bit grand name for a dog otherwise :p |
| 15:54.14 | Raws | :P |
| 15:54.22 | Raws | I do call him Bismarck |
| 15:54.27 | robokitty | xD |
| 15:54.51 | robokitty | eep |
| 15:55.07 | robokitty | a friend of mine hospitalized with a suspect blood clot in her lungs :S |
| 15:55.16 | Raws | Eek |
| 15:55.30 | Djane | Eep |
| 15:56.15 | robokitty | http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224764_10150172216722493_647192492_7189012_7648703_n.jpg aww :3 |
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| 15:58.31 | Noxy | PUPPIES |
| 15:58.34 | Noxy | IN MY HOUSE |
| 15:58.37 | Noxy | A WEEK FROM TODAY |
| 15:58.40 | Noxy | EEEEEEEEE |
| 15:58.50 | Raws | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.29 | robokitty | :| |
| 16:00.46 | robokitty | tranquilizes Noxy |
| 16:00.57 | robokitty | Tigger > puppies, any of the day week |
| 16:01.12 | bladework | Noxy: what puppies? |
| 16:08.33 | Noxy | G&G |
| 16:08.39 | Raws | robo, I think you missed these the other day http://ross.fappett.com/photos/20110506_rosie/ |
| 16:09.52 | bladework | Noxy: poe's visiting you? |
| 16:09.55 | robokitty | d'awww |
| 16:10.19 | Raws | She's my parents', but she's living with me until they're done puppy-proofing their house |
| 16:10.25 | Raws | Which they're taking a suspiciously long time to do |
| 16:10.29 | robokitty | :D |
| 16:10.31 | Raws | She's Nadia's half sister |
| 16:10.51 | robokitty | iow. once they're done puppy-proofing, she's no longer a puppy anyway |
| 16:10.56 | Raws | Haha |
| 16:11.00 | bladework | Raws: maybe your dad is taking a viagra a day |
| 16:11.00 | Raws | She's seven months old |
| 16:11.04 | Raws | wat |
| 16:11.13 | Raws | blocks blade from his mind |
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| 16:12.47 | Noxy | If your parents are doing the nasty still, its a good thing. |
| 16:12.59 | Raws | Not for me to know! |
| 16:14.00 | Noxy | I feel sorry for my inlaws. |
| 16:14.05 | bladework | ? |
| 16:14.06 | Noxy | They're in the bedroom below ours. |
| 16:14.15 | bladework | oh |
| 16:14.17 | bladework | ouch |
| 16:14.20 | robokitty | |:< |
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| 16:14.45 | Noxy | altho if it was reversed I'm sure it'd suck too. |
| 16:14.58 | Noxy | For us |
| 16:15.14 | bladework | Noxy's going to procreate as if she was a bunny |
| 16:17.04 | Noxy | Nah. |
| 16:17.12 | Noxy | YAY BLIZZARD FIXED MY STUPID |
| 16:18.02 | bladework | Noxy: what did blizz do now? |
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| 16:19.56 | Noxy | I was putting some auctions up, but was half asleep when I did it. |
| 16:20.05 | Noxy | Accidentally learnt one of the pets I was selling. |
| 16:20.33 | Noxy | Blizz reverted it for me, gave me the item back. |
| 16:20.33 | bladework | lol |
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| 16:58.51 | Lopin | . |
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| 16:59.22 | fewyn | \ |
| 16:59.32 | Izzmo | Sup peoples, how is everyone doing on this fantasmal day? |
| 17:01.05 | Juippis | finland won russia in ice hockey |
| 17:01.09 | Juippis | we're good |
| 17:01.14 | Juippis | you? |
| 17:02.09 | Izzmo | Bin Ladin is dead, how could it be any better? |
| 17:02.37 | Juippis | at least learn to type his name correctly |
| 17:05.10 | robokitty | let's not go there, unless any of you have an arabic keyboard at hand :P |
| 17:05.24 | Izzmo | lol |
| 17:05.24 | Juippis | ;D |
| 17:05.37 | Izzmo | Bin Laden, Bin Ladon, Ben Laden, I prefer the last one myself |
| 17:05.53 | Izzmo | He's dead, and he's a dick, so unless you want to suck that big fat dick, who cares? |
| 17:06.01 | Juippis | you seem to care |
| 17:06.07 | Juippis | what bad did he ever do to you |
| 17:06.18 | Izzmo | He sent me an email a few years back |
| 17:06.32 | Juippis | you sure that wasn't just a scam? |
| 17:06.36 | Juippis | I'm pretty sure it was |
| 17:06.39 | Juippis | and you fell for it |
| 17:07.12 | Izzmo | lol I'm joking, but thanks |
| 17:07.20 | Juippis | me too :) |
| 17:07.33 | Izzmo | He sounded more serious than me |
| 17:07.37 | Izzmo | You* |
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| 18:49.40 | tortib | Hello, how long does the wowhead usually take to update the data sent with the wowhead client? |
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| 18:52.01 | Izzmo | a couple minutes I usually see |
| 18:52.49 | tortib | It has been about 30min for me it updated some of the character info but not the rest of the info that I need, the quest tab still has a lock on it. |
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| 18:54.48 | Izzmo | Something probably happened during the transfer or it may just be taking its time, but more than likely something happened during the transfer |
| 18:55.31 | tortib | yeah i've tried several times |
| 18:56.52 | Izzmo | Hmm, I dunno what to tell ya :( |
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| 18:59.20 | tortib | dang i really need that data too, i'm stuck in the game I started the chain quest for twilight highlands and I don't remember where I left off :( |
| 18:59.39 | tortib | I don't have the portal opened yet in Orgrimmar so I can't be that far into it. |
| 19:00.12 | tortib | Anyone know what the starting quests is for the chain so I can trace it back? |
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| 19:23.14 | robokitty | tortib, http://www.wowhead.com/quest=28717 |
| 19:23.41 | tortib | okay thanks |
| 19:24.05 | tortib | someone said that doing all the quests in highbank is also a way to open the portal |
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| 19:24.29 | robokitty | oh wait |
| 19:24.32 | robokitty | you're alliance |
| 19:24.33 | robokitty | erh |
| 19:25.42 | tortib | hmm |
| 19:25.46 | tortib | i remember doing all the quests in ashzara |
| 19:25.50 | tortib | no i'm horde |
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| 19:28.47 | robokitty | hm, have you killed the big boss in Twilight Highlands? |
| 19:29.10 | hylje | which big boss |
| 19:29.34 | robokitty | chief what'shisface |
| 19:29.43 | robokitty | the THIS IS DRAGONMAW dude |
| 19:30.42 | hylje | that's horde |
| 19:31.03 | hylje | the quest where you kill the river elementals opens horde portal |
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| 19:32.54 | Ackis | anyone want to try a 7-day rift trial? |
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| 19:42.33 | splic | So for the 345 ilvl requirement for H ZG/ZA, does that pretty much allow for only one ilvl 333 item? |
| 19:42.47 | hylje | yea |
| 19:42.48 | Izzmo | ... yes |
| 19:43.01 | hylje | they don't obsolete the old heroics |
| 19:44.44 | hylje | well, you can have more 333s since you can get vendor epics too |
| 19:44.51 | fewyn | http://i.imgur.com/VWuwQ.jpg |
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| 19:50.20 | splic | Are most people getting in through normal grouping, not random ZA/ZG? There's only 1 piece of ilvl 346 armor for one of my slots from random heroics |
| 19:52.52 | hylje | that's normal |
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| 19:55.41 | Domh | I bet it's bracers |
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| 20:03.48 | Korale | fun times |
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| 20:04.32 | kullervo | ugh I got to stop playing pvp with rogues |
| 20:04.35 | kullervo | terrible whiners |
| 20:04.49 | kullervo | QQ resilience destroys the class QQ I can't kill anyone QQ QQQ |
| 20:04.55 | kullervo | l2p fuckwit |
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| 20:35.55 | robokitty | %/#¤&/(¤"#%&"#¤/&"(" |
| 20:36.02 | robokitty | 150k wipe on HC Chimaeron |
| 20:41.48 | splic | Domh: yea, it is, is it that way for more than just leather? |
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| 20:44.41 | Domh | splic, tends to be yes. |
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| 20:44.58 | Domh | but Leather is the hardest one. Specifically resto leather |
| 20:45.06 | apf3l | hi, can someone send me a scroll of resurrection for eu server? |
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| 20:47.34 | splic | Domh: haha yea, that's what I am, I may have to buy some ilvl 359 stuff. Aren't most people at ilvl 344/345 competent enough? |
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| 20:48.10 | Domh | You're gonna be hard up for 359 bracers though. They'll only drop in raids. :< |
| 20:48.22 | Domh | Also, PuGs vary wildly in competency |
| 20:48.37 | Izzmo | "Aren't most people at ilvl 344/345 competent enough?" |
| 20:48.39 | Izzmo | Answer: NO |
| 20:49.48 | Izzmo | Raids are designed to be won at ilvl 346, obviously. So people who are actually using a lot of 352 (or 353.. w/e it is) are usually not that great |
| 20:50.02 | Izzmo | Speculation of course, but from what I've seen it's pretty true for the most part |
| 20:51.05 | splic | Can't a raid carry a low ilvl person as long as they understand the mechanics of the fight? |
| 20:51.48 | Izzmo | Mmm, depends on the fight and the class of the player |
| 20:52.13 | Izzmo | DPS mostly always, if not always, tank/healer not always, but sometimes on the fights u can 2-heal |
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| 20:53.01 | splic | Yea that's what I was thinking, DPS aren't as big of a deal as tank/healer |
| 20:53.13 | Domh | They are in the new ones |
| 20:53.34 | Domh | Cause if they're not interrupiting, or running though the posion or stuff you won't win :< |
| 20:53.36 | splic | 4.2 stuff? |
| 20:53.46 | Domh | troll heriocs |
| 20:53.50 | splic | Ah |
| 20:54.02 | Domh | competent dps are required for raids too though |
| 20:54.13 | Izzmo | We said competent people |
| 20:54.28 | Domh | Not like wrath yet where people brute force content with gear |
| 20:54.32 | Izzmo | and we said raids, not that bullshit ZA/ZG |
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| 20:55.44 | Izzmo | ZA/ZG u can easily just "brute force" or AoE everything |
| 20:55.46 | Domh | I missed the fact you were answering a quoted question |
| 20:55.54 | BlackNet | lol za/zg is not a raid |
| 20:56.16 | splic | Isn't there 10man ZA? |
| 20:56.19 | Domh | Yes, I was missing part of the context |
| 20:56.20 | Izzmo | no.. |
| 20:56.22 | Domh | Not anymore |
| 20:56.40 | Izzmo | I hate how they took out the first two bosses of ZG too, lame ass shit |
| 20:56.55 | Domh | I miss fish boss :< |
| 20:57.02 | splic | haha the fishing one? |
| 20:57.06 | Domh | and never got to try the alc one |
| 20:57.10 | BlackNet | so i have been workin with the ask mr robot site today. i think they are not quite correct on tanks |
| 20:57.15 | Izzmo | they kind of just replaced it with archeology shit anyways |
| 20:57.16 | splic | back in vanilla I was the only one who make the lures in the guild |
| 20:57.35 | Domh | Arch one is more the Alchemy boss I think. But whatever |
| 20:57.38 | Izzmo | BlackNet: What do you mean? |
| 20:58.07 | Izzmo | How is the Archeology boss a alchemy boss, u need Archeology 450 to spawn the boss, correct? |
| 20:58.15 | robokitty | also |
| 20:58.19 | robokitty | Blizzard can fuck right off |
| 20:58.25 | Djane | Agree. |
| 20:58.28 | BlackNet | it told me to unenchant 2 items which had the same enchant as the others, parry into dodge. then it told me to reforge one item from dodge into parry |
| 20:58.29 | robokitty | Chimaeron HC is downright retarded |
| 20:58.39 | Izzmo | Retarded easy? |
| 20:58.45 | Djane | Retarded rng. |
| 20:58.47 | robokitty | ^^ |
| 20:58.58 | Izzmo | eh, well |
| 20:59.16 | Izzmo | There's nothing you can do on Heroic Chimaeron to make it harder without really changing the fight |
| 20:59.36 | Djane | When you're -right- up against the gear requirements, and you get 2nd 3rd and fourth feuds on the second |
| 20:59.43 | Djane | tank dies. |
| 20:59.58 | Izzmo | on the second what? |
| 21:00.02 | Djane | Massacre. |
| 21:00.03 | BlackNet | chim is retarded as it is. same with halfus. they have more holes than swiss cheese in the plot |
| 21:00.24 | Izzmo | well, what are the gear requirements? |
| 21:00.34 | Djane | Izzmo, at that point the feud tank has 6 stacks of break. |
| 21:00.43 | Izzmo | ... |
| 21:00.44 | Djane | Which means even a blocked melee swing on a paladin one shotts. |
| 21:00.47 | Djane | Yeah. |
| 21:00.50 | Izzmo | are your tanks swapping? |
| 21:00.50 | BlackNet | uym 6 stacks? |
| 21:00.52 | Djane | Yes. |
| 21:00.58 | Izzmo | Kill it faster then? |
| 21:01.00 | BlackNet | this for heroic? |
| 21:01.02 | Djane | Irrelevant. |
| 21:01.13 | Djane | This is because if you get a feud on second massacre, feud tank does not reset his break. |
| 21:01.18 | Djane | if this happens 3 times in a row. Death. |
| 21:01.30 | Izzmo | oo, I see what u r saying |
| 21:01.42 | Izzmo | just luck of the draw, like many fights |
| 21:01.51 | Izzmo | The only way to make raiding harder is to add a level of uncertainty to them |
| 21:02.19 | BlackNet | didnt' realize it would stack to 6 |
| 21:02.29 | BlackNet | but then we never did dumbass mode and tried either |
| 21:04.12 | BlackNet | hmmm that's +25% and -15% healing per stack |
| 21:04.18 | Izzmo | ... you haven't done Chimaeron on heroic? |
| 21:04.19 | BlackNet | eer +25% damage |
| 21:04.42 | Izzmo | it's like the second easier boss, maybe even the easiest heroic boss |
| 21:07.49 | BlackNet | dont think mr robot is fully updated for all the new changes |
| 21:09.17 | robokitty | I'm always up to date :3 |
| 21:09.41 | Djane | Izzmo, i got meleed for 412k, before block. |
| 21:09.45 | Djane | Explain how that is good mechanics? |
| 21:09.50 | BlackNet | i said some shield was better than the crafted one but the crafted one has about the same stats plus now has a socket which makes it WAY better |
| 21:09.52 | Djane | Rng is poor design. |
| 21:10.18 | BlackNet | rng? you saying wow has random shit in there? i have yet to see any |
| 21:10.38 | robokitty | http://i.imgur.com/PEMT8.jpg :< |
| 21:11.21 | BlackNet | i see you are using big wigs |
| 21:11.55 | BlackNet | i have one for you :) |
| 21:11.59 | BlackNet | http://i.imgur.com/13BwK.jpg there ya go |
| 21:12.27 | Domh | robokitty, what bar addon is that you're using for your cooldowns? |
| 21:13.35 | robokitty | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/coolline-cooldowns.aspx |
| 21:15.14 | Domh | Cool, thanks |
| 21:15.26 | Domh | Been trying to find somewhere to put spirit link :p |
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| 21:23.35 | Stormkitty | Proof some IBM equipment can't be destroyed even if you want to: "After a full day of searching and climbing around in the 'rafters,' we finally found the switch on a mezzanine above the planers. It was completely covered with about 6 inches of sawdust and still running." |
| 21:26.16 | Izzmo | ... what? |
| 21:26.25 | Izzmo | like a network switch? |
| 21:27.31 | Stormkitty | Yup |
| 21:28.00 | splic | That from /.? |
| 21:28.10 | Stormkitty | splic, not quite. |
| 21:28.13 | kadrahil | that's what crashed Sony |
| 21:28.57 | Stormkitty | kad naw if they were using IBM they wouldn't have had trouble in the first place :P |
| 21:29.03 | kadrahil | o |
| 21:29.06 | Izzmo | lol what "crashed" Sony was stupidity |
| 21:29.34 | Izzmo | I gurantee Sony exec's didn't think adding firewall protocols and updating software was "justified" for the budget |
| 21:29.49 | stuf | ^ |
| 21:29.52 | Izzmo | And network admins probably tried for a very long time to sway them, but it never happened until last week |
| 21:29.55 | stuf | and i wouldn't be surprised |
| 21:29.55 | kadrahil | ... |
| 21:29.59 | g0urra | or changing passwords from "password" |
| 21:30.01 | g0urra | :V |
| 21:30.10 | Izzmo | ... eh, I don't think that was the problem lol |
| 21:30.40 | splic | Its not really hard to add a firewall/update rpms, couldn't the sysadmins be incompetent? |
| 21:30.48 | Izzmo | ... |
| 21:30.52 | Izzmo | it's not up to them |
| 21:31.20 | Izzmo | It's up to business level type suits who don't know shit about what is going on besides the bottom line, and they didn't think it was necessary probably cause it would take a lot of time and money to do so |
| 21:31.35 | Stormkitty | Izzmo you'd be surprised |
| 21:31.49 | Stormkitty | I got into *something* at work with admin/admin |
| 21:31.50 | splic | Wouldn't they have a salaried sysadmin? |
| 21:31.53 | Stormkitty | still not sure what it was |
| 21:31.56 | Stormkitty | but I left it alone |
| 21:32.02 | Izzmo | u work at sony? |
| 21:32.08 | Stormkitty | ... |
| 21:32.21 | Izzmo | do you? |
| 21:32.47 | Izzmo | I'm gonna say no.. but I thought we were talking about Sony people.. not all network admins.. |
| 21:33.15 | Stormkitty | [14:29:59] <g0urra> or changing passwords from "password" |
| 21:33.16 | Stormkitty | [14:30:00] <g0urra> :V |
| 21:33.16 | Stormkitty | [14:30:09] <Izzmo> ... eh, I don't think that was the problem lol |
| 21:33.20 | Stormkitty | that is quite frequently the problem |
| 21:33.30 | Stormkitty | Default passwords that don't get changed |
| 21:33.40 | Stormkitty | or passwords that are so blindingly simple a 2 year old could guess them |
| 21:34.00 | Izzmo | Well, let me just say this |
| 21:34.14 | Izzmo | If that was the problem, then Sony wouldn't have JUST NOW got screwed up |
| 21:34.20 | Izzmo | And.. |
| 21:34.38 | Izzmo | Big companies like Sony hire security companies to come in and look at easy shit like that |
| 21:35.00 | Izzmo | I doubt that was the problem, as other have said ont he internet, it's more about layered security where they fell short |
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| 22:54.16 | BlackNet | wohoo! 11% on chogall |
| 22:56.52 | Djane | Duke nukem forever is availabe for prepurchase... |
| 23:01.27 | Domh | derp derp. I'm training pugs :p |
| 23:01.37 | Domh | tylenol plz :p |
| 23:01.43 | Izzmo | BlackNet: Heroic? |
| 23:02.05 | Izzmo | Domh: why are you so nice? Show them who's boss. |
| 23:02.22 | Domh | Cause I'm a Canuk |
| 23:02.30 | Izzmo | lol |
| 23:02.45 | Djane | Uncomfortable truth : We're all pugs. |
| 23:02.46 | BlackNet | normal |
| 23:03.46 | Izzmo | Well, considering you can't be a "pug"... |
| 23:04.05 | Izzmo | but you can be a shitty player |
| 23:04.11 | Izzmo | and pugs are full of them |
| 23:04.27 | Djane | pugs is used as a moniker for random players in a group |
| 23:04.39 | Domh | aka, Pick Up Group |
| 23:04.43 | Djane | It's a fairly reasonable usage of the colloqualism. |
| 23:04.51 | Domh | And yes, I'm training multiple whole groups :p |
| 23:05.21 | Domh | Ouch, 86 g repair as a preist |
| 23:05.21 | Izzmo | I like sticking to definitiveness, tyvm. |
| 23:05.34 | Izzmo | That's all? |
| 23:05.50 | Izzmo | Didn't they make repair bills equal for all classes? |
| 23:06.01 | Domh | Not that I'm aware of |
| 23:06.23 | Domh | But I shouldn't be going this high with blues. I could see it with epics, where 3-4 wipes and I'm at 100 :p |
| 23:06.24 | Djane | Definitiveness is relevant when talking technically, not in IRC. Yes they did, but it's still dependant on the gear you're actually wearing, and how much durability is left etc. |
| 23:06.24 | Izzmo | Hmm, thought they did in Cata |
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| 23:07.32 | Djane | Definitiveness is also a recipe for missing out on the best parts of the english language since so much is derived from slang, colloqualism and dynamic evolution of concept. |
| 23:08.23 | Izzmo | Such is not proper though. |
| 23:08.46 | Djane | He says, using a slang derivative. |
| 23:09.52 | Izzmo | Which is not proper? |
| 23:10.03 | Izzmo | Rhetorical question. |
| 23:10.06 | Djane | If you were speaking the queens, you would not use the word proper in that context. |
| 23:11.06 | Djane | Unless it was a rather elaborate self deprecating pun it was oxymoronic at best, tautologically inaccurate at worst. |
| 23:11.53 | Izzmo | Really Djane? I think you are using uncommon words to make yourself look good :P |
| 23:12.39 | Izzmo | As for my rhetorical question, it was somewhat mal-formed if you may have not been present in the full conversation, but perfectly valid. |
| 23:13.05 | Djane | if you may have not? |
| 23:13.54 | Domh | . . . brb. Signing up for university English so I can keep up. . . |
| 23:15.37 | Izzmo | Djane: Yes? |
| 23:15.54 | Djane | Want to try those again? |
| 23:16.01 | Izzmo | It makes sense. |
| 23:16.09 | Izzmo | If one may have not been present.. |
| 23:16.35 | Djane | It makes sense, that doesn't make it grammatically correct. |
| 23:16.38 | Izzmo | But I'm not speaking in general terms, but to you, so I used "you". |
| 23:16.48 | Izzmo | How is it not grammatically correct? |
| 23:17.29 | Djane | Have is the incorrect tense. |
| 23:17.43 | Djane | Unless you're attempting to imply I am not present for the conversation that was occuring at present, anyways. |
| 23:18.58 | Djane | have been is the perfect progressive present tense form of have |
| 23:19.10 | Izzmo | Well, considering I was speaking of a string of text that had already ocurred, I would have thought it was correctly used. |
| 23:19.27 | Djane | No, because the form indicates that the situation will resolve itself in the future |
| 23:19.33 | Izzmo | have been wouldn't make any sense. |
| 23:19.40 | Djane | Indeed. |
| 23:20.06 | Izzmo | We are talking conditionals here, if you, not that you were NOT present, just if. |
| 23:20.09 | Djane | Since I cannot in the future become present for a conversation that occured in the past, the perfect progressive is impossible. |
| 23:20.15 | Djane | Yes, but you still used the wrong tense. |
| 23:20.55 | Djane | the conditional is embedded in the if, therefore most simply and accurately it would "if you were not present in the full conversation" |
| 23:20.58 | Izzmo | I don't think so. Since we are talking in a condition when you were not present, then it makes sense. Now, if you were present, then the statement is invalidated. |
| 23:21.11 | Djane | Have not been is the perfect progressive. Look it up. |
| 23:21.22 | tate | wat |
| 23:21.27 | tate | oh, misshighlights |
| 23:21.41 | Djane | well, technically, have been is the perfect progressive but the not is irrelevant here. |
| 23:21.59 | Izzmo | A sentence as complex as this, you would have to prove multiple parts of the sentence to mark it as well-formed. |
| 23:22.34 | Djane | I'm bored now. You lack knowledge. Back to Mount and Blade. |
| 23:22.57 | Izzmo | Instead of insulting my intelligence, how about you prove to me you are right? |
| 23:23.14 | Djane | I cannot do that if you lack the understanding of why using a perfect progressive attached to a conditional is incorrect. |
| 23:23.35 | Izzmo | Then, if you will, please correct my sentence. |
| 23:23.40 | Djane | As I stated above. |
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| 23:23.46 | BlackNet | WOHOOO!!!! WE GOT HIM DOWN |
| 23:23.51 | Izzmo | Please type it out in it's entirety. |
| 23:23.59 | Izzmo | BlackNet: gratz |
| 23:24.21 | Djane | As for my rhetorical question, it was somewhat mal-formed if you were not been present for the full conversation, but perfectly valid. |
| 23:24.59 | Izzmo | Anyone else see a problem with this sentence? |
| 23:25.05 | Djane | have not been dictates that I can alter the if conditional, since said conditional occured in the past, this is impossible. Therefore have not been stresses an interpretation which is paradoxical. |
| 23:25.10 | BlackNet | about fucking time to. only spent about 90 wipes on his ass |
| 23:25.13 | Djane | -been |
| 23:25.16 | BlackNet | because ppl cant move out of corruption crash |
| 23:25.30 | Djane | the been shouldn't be there, missed it on the CnP |
| 23:25.40 | Izzmo | You are not altering the condition, just going to the opposite. |
| 23:26.01 | Djane | Have not been stresses that the conditional MUST be alterable. |
| 23:26.08 | Izzmo | You can either be one or the other, in this case here or not here, and the setence is simply implying that the person would not be present. |
| 23:26.13 | Djane | Since it is not, Have not been cannot be accurate as it would pose a paradoxic situation. |
| 23:26.24 | Djane | sighs. Go look up what a perfect progressive is please. |
| 23:26.25 | Izzmo | How would it be paradoxic? |
| 23:26.37 | Djane | Because have not been states that i can CHANGE whether I was present or not. |
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| 23:26.48 | Djane | Because that is the definition of a perfect progressive verb tense. |
| 23:26.54 | Djane | Because that is how the english language works. |
| 23:27.18 | Djane | You can only use the perfect progressive, generally in talking about the present or the future, very very very rarely about the past. |
| 23:27.41 | Djane | Since you need to be able to alter the scenario for a perfect progressive to be accurate, past events are inherently paradoxical. |
| 23:27.57 | Izzmo | Okay, just so I get this right, I'm going to look up the exact definition/supplemation of a "past perfect progressive." |
| 23:28.16 | Djane | Which would be had, not have. |
| 23:28.24 | Djane | Have is the present perfect progressive. |
| 23:28.25 | tate | http://rofl.fi/leavemealone.png |
| 23:29.17 | Izzmo | Well, it seems we were both wrong, if you want to get nitty gritty |
| 23:29.45 | Izzmo | Correct: As for my rhetorical question, it wassomewhat mal-formed if you may had not been present in the full conversation, but perfectly valid. |
| 23:30.05 | Djane | That doesn't make me wrong, I simply chose to restate in the simplist form rather than using the past perfect progressive. |
| 23:30.31 | Djane | I dislike the bulkiness of it but that's a style choice. |
| 23:30.34 | Izzmo | I cannot be certain, but I do not think you are correct in your word positioning. |
| 23:31.18 | Djane | My form is accurate but carries less meaning. |
| 23:31.37 | Djane | Yours strengthens the singular, mine carries no bias towards plural or singular. |
| 23:32.29 | Izzmo | Considering this is about a single entity, the appropriate choice would be singular. I suppose you could choose your way, but I think people would look at your funny. |
| 23:32.46 | Djane | Singular or plural is inherently defined by context. |
| 23:33.12 | Izzmo | Right, and in this context, which I chose, it would be singular. |
| 23:33.26 | Djane | Yes, but that comes through with or without the bias. |
| 23:33.48 | Izzmo | Conclusions? Both right. |
| 23:33.54 | Djane | Now, yes. Previously, no. |
| 23:34.01 | BlackNet | we could/should have downed him months ago if ppl were not doing stupid stuff durring the fight. but this is progression regardless |
| 23:34.12 | Izzmo | Well, I suppose you are right there, I did need to change the tense. |
| 23:34.24 | Djane | Perfect progressives are a bitch. |
| 23:34.42 | Djane | I tend to avoid them unless i'm writing something formal as they can be needlessly bulky around some concepts. |
| 23:34.44 | Izzmo | :-S |
| 23:35.26 | Izzmo | Anyone listen to Dubstep here? |
| 23:35.29 | Djane | They're fantastic in detailing a specific set of events but in anything requiring less than utter literality they're a nightmare. |
| 23:35.53 | Gary13579 | Izzmo, yes, why |
| 23:37.31 | Izzmo | Gary: UKF? |
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| 23:51.28 | BlackNet | 2heal good for neferian? |
| 23:52.06 | Stormkitty | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/05/09/2126258/New-Chrome-Exploit-Bypasses-Sandbox-ASLR-and-DEP Problem, Google? |
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| 23:54.22 | Djane | BlackNet, no. |
| 23:54.24 | Djane | 3 heal. |
