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00:21.36BlackNetthis blows
00:21.49BlackNeti tanked baleroc using alt-z while the raid group got the ach.
00:22.43Juippisaaand it blows because?
00:23.28StormkittyI never tire of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOjUKwoHUyw How can somebody that awesome work at /FOX/
00:23.35BlackNetto easy for one
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00:24.46Mr_Rabiesif he's on farm now who cares
00:24.59Mr_Rabiesor was, rather
00:25.01Mr_Rabiespre-nerf
00:25.08BlackNetyup
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01:07.08tatewtf
01:07.19tatepopup saying microsoft visual c++ runtime library
01:07.23tatewhile i'm laying in bed ..
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01:18.08Pattrickso clearly your computer is running something in C++
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02:15.06tateyeap, i might have clue for that
02:15.19tatethat wasn't first time it popped
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02:33.55tateOMAGAAD
02:34.00tategetting 1500 conq cap! ^.^
02:34.16tateeh.. 2500..
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02:51.51kullervoGG I installed Java on this machine to... you know, use some features that require it
02:51.58kullervoit seems to instantly crash my firefox
02:54.35kullervohttp://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2011.09.21-05.54.06.txt
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03:02.38StormkittyReddit is posting images of bash.org now T_T
03:03.05Lugburzactyually? :|
03:05.56StormkittyYup.
03:07.04StormkittyIt's like they're not even trying anymore.
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03:20.51kullervomaybe it's just the model viewer
03:20.59kullervoeverything else I tried works fine
03:21.29tatehmm
03:21.57kullervoany idea if I could extract more information than what I pasted here?
03:25.36Stormkitty"Japan has a Happy Monday system that moves holidays to Mondays so that people can have more three day weekends."
03:26.27kullervobrilliant
03:26.38dogelwant
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03:33.41tateTwo and a Half Men S09E01
03:33.42tateO_O
03:33.50dogelNAKED
03:33.52dogelASHTON
03:33.53dogelKUTCHER
03:33.55dogelALL EPISODE
03:34.02dogelwell, like 90% of it
03:34.05dogelso sexxxy
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03:34.44tatehmm
03:34.52tateso sheen is off at s09?
03:35.06dogelyup
03:35.10tate;_;
03:35.12dogelcharlie dies
03:35.17dogelhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHactGX5b8E
03:35.47tateSHIT
03:35.49tatespoiler-alert
03:35.59dogeleverybody knows that was gonna happen
03:36.07dogelhow the hell else would the character disappear
03:36.07dogelLOOL
03:36.08tatei wanna see the whole ep >,<
03:36.09dogelLOL*
03:36.14dogelclick the link!
03:36.19tatedid and closed
03:36.21dogeloh
03:36.31tategonna watch one ep dexter and then gonna watch the whole ep!
03:36.38dogel:DD
03:40.18Stormkittydogel that funeral scene
03:40.19Stormkittywas amazing
03:40.24Stormkitty"never cross a crazy woman"
03:40.30dogeli gotta say
03:40.35dogeli would
03:40.36dogeleasily
03:40.38dogelgo for jake
03:40.39dogelright now
03:41.16dogelhe's grown into a
03:41.18dogelpretty cute guy
03:42.20Stormkittydogel check out dis
03:42.21Stormkittybridge
03:42.21Stormkittyhttp://i.imgur.com/v0Twr.jpg
03:42.46kullervomany like it
03:43.45Stormkittyhttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8776594/2ft-tall-cheerleader-becomes-worlds-shortest-woman.html man she would be so easy to kidnap
03:43.50Stormkittyjust throw her in your backpack
03:44.18kullervojust stuff her in your pocket
03:44.42StormkittyAlso
03:44.42Stormkittyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhVvtu9M46E
03:54.48Stormkittyfor dogel: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/km3m1/hotel_workers_whats_the_weirdest_thing_youve_ever/c2lerw1
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05:53.11Mr_Rabiesyeah looks like some wacky stuff is going down with the freenode hub
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07:53.50rosemountgives nickserv the finger
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11:09.22Stormkittyhttp://www.geek.com/articles/games/john-carmack-coded-quake-on-a-28-inch-169-1080p-monitor-in-1995-20110920/
11:09.24StormkittyDAT MONITOR
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11:14.42kapowazyow
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12:17.03StormkittyWhy is it whenever I explain to people why I don't play consoles (hand cramps caused by controllers), they say "you're holding the controller wrong idiot"
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12:17.46DjaneDo you have massive hands?
12:18.14Stormkittyhuge palms, short fingers
12:18.19DjaneFair enough.
12:18.21DjaneWould be painful
12:18.42Stormkittyafter 10-15 minutes my entire palm is a world of pain
12:18.45Stormkittyand I can't move my thumbs
12:19.00DjaneAye, somewhat reasonable.
12:19.07Djane(argh fuck northrend. 79.44)
12:19.14StormkittyMore like, Trollrend
12:19.21DjaneYES.
12:19.23DjaneI am also a troll.
12:19.27DjaneI've been powerlevelling a priest.
12:19.34Djane2days 5 hours now
12:19.56StormkittyDjane my date isn't for 12 hours and I'm already nervous. WHY AM I NERVOUS
12:20.01Stormkittyffffffffff
12:20.15DjaneBecause a new more glorious dawn awaits.
12:20.27StormkittyNot a sun rise
12:20.29Stormkittybut a galaxy rise
12:20.33DjaneBut a sexual rise.
12:20.34Stormkittya morning filled with 400 billion suns
12:20.37Djaneorgasms.
12:20.47Stormkittysounds lengthy
12:20.55DjaneGlhf.
12:21.45Stormkittythis feeling will probably go away once we're in the pub and I have a couple pints in me
12:23.09StormkittyI should probably go to bed now
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13:41.13kapowazI posted this on the EU forum: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2690612029
13:41.31kapowazI see some vague mention in a blue post about ‘old armour sets’ being brought back through the DM Faire
13:41.46kapowazbut nothing specifically talking about PvP sets
13:41.50kapowazanybody know different?
13:45.46Morril<PROTECTED>
13:47.03kapowazso it's just speculation at this point ?
13:48.07kapowazone thing that's harder to get hold of for older sets is matching boots / bracers / belts
13:48.20kapowaza load of tier sets are missing their matching parts
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14:01.45rosemountPVP sets?
14:02.04rosemountWhich ones have been removed? I know of only some blue sets.
14:03.12kapowazSeason 3
14:03.22kapowazi.e. the ones which were a recolour of Tier 6
14:03.45kapowazalso you can't get the matching bracers/belt/boots for seasons 1 or 2 any more
14:04.44kapowazas far as PvE tier sets, there are a few examples of sets which never had matching available items (I'm not sure about all of them, but I know specifically of DK T8 where you can't get matching boots)
14:05.09kapowazand DK T10 hasn't got matching boots for all the ilevel values
14:05.11rosemountI see your point about the PvP sets... we'll have to wait for PTR to go live and see then.
14:05.16kapowazyeah
14:05.43kapowazitching to get on the PTR and see what's going to happen.
14:05.50rosemountSame!
14:06.01rosemountI'm checking my launcher every day.
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14:07.32kapowaztransmogrification has taken on disproportionate importance to me as I no longer get time to raid, but making my toons look badass is still important to me
14:07.48kapowazI made these earlier: http://imgur.com/a/i19Mp
14:11.01kapowazI'd like to have made better previews but I can't get the Java model viewer to work in Safari 5.1 on OS X Lion
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14:45.16Noxychews on claire
14:45.29Noxyohayo gozaimasu~
14:46.05poeticdragonOw.
14:46.29Noxy<3
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14:47.16fewynfacebook fail
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14:52.31AlphaWolfhello
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15:12.39fewynhttps://plus.google.com/i/3uck3nUTKvc:cMl1yeiOXJg
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15:54.54Pattrickfewyn, are you on G+?
15:55.37rosemountnods
15:55.46rosemountAs well as I.
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16:03.09rosemountFacebook has a blog?
16:03.16rosemountI never noticed.
16:09.11kapowazso murozond is an anagram of nozdormu
16:09.13kapowaz:O
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16:10.20Mr_Rabiesit's been hinted that he's malevolent for a while now
16:11.05Mr_Rabiesthe quest in dragonblight where you help defend the bronze dragon shrine was the most recent "welp, he's pretty much evil"
16:11.08kapowazwhere ‘for a while now’ means what for a dragon who exists outside of time?
16:11.35kapowazI didn't get that message from that particular quest
16:12.14kapowazhttp://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Mystery_of_the_Infinite
16:12.24kapowaz“So, even though the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight wasn't revealed, you've discovered that Nozdormu is alive and well, and fighting back against them!”
16:12.48kapowazstill, it would make a lot of sense that he's the leader of the infinite dragonflight *in the future*
16:14.18Mr_RabiesYou are not immortal. You can cross into the dragonshrine and use the Hourglass of Eternity. Protect the hourglass for long enough and the leader of the Infinite Dragonflight should be revealed.
16:14.28Mr_RabiesYou saw Nozdormu? That doesn't make any sense.
16:14.28Mr_Rabies<Chromie thinks a moment about what you've said.>
16:14.40poeticdragonYeah, I also got that Noz was the baddie from that.
16:15.34Mr_Rabiesit's gonna lead into the next expansion which will probably heavily involve the bronze unless they somehow wrap it up in 4.3
16:15.38Mr_Rabieswhich would be a bad move imo
16:15.53kapowazAfter Thrall's wedding he says to players when you click on him:
16:15.53kapowazYes, <class>, things appear bleak. But know that even as things appear to unravel, they do so with greater purpose.
16:15.56kapowaz<Despite his comforting words, Nozdormu looks stricken, if not ill.>
16:16.45kapowazI don't really share your interpretation that Chromie's words imply he's a bad guy. Why would he be fighting against them in that case?
16:16.56poeticdragonHe wasn't.
16:17.03kapowazalso I think it's inferring a lot given that this is a quest from WotLK, and thus was written probably 3+ years ago
16:17.05poeticdragonThe item/quest worked. The leader was revealed.
16:17.08Mr_RabiesI don't think chromie is willing to accept he's the leader of the infinites
16:17.11poeticdragonChromie just didn't believe it.
16:17.33kapowazwell I suppose that's one possible interpretation
16:17.55Mr_Rabiesi thought this like a year ago, before the obvious nozdormu anagram in 4.3
16:18.35poeticdragonYeah, same.
16:18.47Mr_Rabiesbasically the lore nerd baseless speculation is that nozdormu knows how he's going to die
16:19.00Mr_Rabiesso he's leaping around in time attempting to alter history to change it
16:19.12poeticdragonI doubt he's doing it to save his own life.
16:19.21Mr_Rabiesthen there's always the old fallback of "an old god did it"
16:20.06kapowazhttp://www.wowpedia.org/Occulus
16:20.09kapowazI didn't know about this
16:20.51kapowazstill, a time-oriented expansion is definitely a possibility.
16:21.15kapowazone thing I always thought about both the emerald nightmare and potentially this too is that they can't just keep creating new continents
16:21.31kapowazfor Cata remaking Azeroth and adding in a few of the zones you couldn't reach suffices
16:21.49kapowazbut in the future it might be easier to simply have ‘phased’ zones which are still Azeroth, but in a different state
16:22.00kapowazso, far future / past / alternate history works for that
16:22.14poeticdragonScrew phasing.
16:22.16poeticdragonIts terrible.
16:22.26kapowazI don't mean phasing in the WoW technology sense
16:22.30kapowazmore conceptual
16:22.50kapowazas in, you're going to (say) Alternative Past Lordaeron
16:23.07kapowazyou'd get there a different way to flying through Azeroth
16:23.13poeticdragonAh. Have to get there through a portal/time travel ?
16:23.46Mr_Rabiesthat's kind of how the CoT instances work, and instances in general work
16:23.48kapowazmaybe.
16:23.53kapowazI'm speculating, natch
16:23.58Mr_Rabiesmany of the vanilla instances actually exist in the world
16:24.15kapowazwell the outside of them do
16:24.19Mr_Rabiessee: Zul'Farrak, AQ, ZG
16:24.20kapowazand parts of the inside
16:24.40kapowazI'm not sure they were the same on the inside as the outside pre-Cata though
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16:24.58Mr_Rabiesthey were, though the terrain textures etc were pretty buggy and unfinished
16:25.00kapowazanyway I take your point — in terms of in-game geometry they can be shared, without actually being literally shared through phasing
16:25.32Mr_RabiesZG had some crazy buggy lighting and textures
16:25.51Mr_Rabiesi forget how but it used to be very easy to get behind the portal
16:25.58Mr_RabiesZF was easier
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16:28.13kapowazif you're right and Nozdormu was always intended to be the longterm leader of the infinite dragonflight as far back as the start of WotLK, then I find it hard to imagine they'll just snuff that storyline out as easily as killing him in a 5-man dungeon
16:28.20kapowazsounds like a waste
16:29.55Mr_Rabiesyeah that's what i meant by <Mr_Rabies> which would be a bad move imo
16:30.04kapowaznods
16:30.05Mr_Rabiessuch a buildup and then doop he's dead in a 5 man sorry
16:30.21kapowazjust wait for the expansion where Bolvar is a 5-man boss
16:30.54Mr_Rabieseven more ridiculous than the malygos fight
16:31.05Mr_RabiesWELP HE'S PISSED WE BETTER KILL HIM
16:51.46rosemountyay zarhym replied to me
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17:02.56PattrickMorril!
17:03.00Pattricklong time no chat!
17:03.04MorrilPattrick,
17:03.18MorrilHow goes the battle?
17:05.36Pattrickit goes
17:05.43Pattrickschool be kicking my ass, sadly
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17:32.51tateo_o
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17:45.06MorrilI wish IT wouldnt screw with the Access points in hte middle of the day.
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17:49.34PattrickMorril, any idea if G+ lets you post directly to someones stream?
17:51.39MorrilPattrick: Not yet sadly
17:51.50MorrilNor can you mention. You just need to comment on other peoples streams
17:51.55Morrilif you want to post to their stream.
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18:01.10Russianhey guys, how does gear work for a Feral Druid? Does Cat form for example need different primary stats from Bear form?
18:02.27Pattrickyou don't want dodge as a cat
18:11.17poeticdragonBasically the same gear but you enchant/reforge it differently.
18:11.27poeticdragon(same gems tho)
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18:16.31Russianpoeticdragon:  aah okay thanks
18:22.18MorrilPattrick: are you trying to kill studnets?
18:25.13PattrickNot yet
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18:31.00PattrickMorril, if I keep not understanding my IT stuff, I will
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19:27.28Pattrickhttp://www.wowhead.com/spell=86150 fails to show the Holy or Protection versions of the spell, and the boxes should be changed so single selection and not multiple check
19:29.04rosemountnods and thanks pattrick
19:33.01Pattrick+1
19:33.09rosemount+2
19:35.19g0urraexalted with avengers :3
19:35.41Pattrick/hate
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19:41.30g0urraalso alysrazor down
19:41.32g0urra4/7 hc
19:41.42rosemountnice
19:44.25LibrtiORDeth_So this is my first worgen
19:44.31LibrtiORDeth_And I'm at the Battle for Gilneas City
19:44.52LibrtiORDeth_And previously, at (what seems to be) the last part of it, my army disappeared
19:44.55LibrtiORDeth_and everything reset
19:45.02LibrtiORDeth_And now I'm back up to that part again
19:45.16LibrtiORDeth_And I need to figure out how to not do that this time...
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20:00.15Guest89870Anybody able to look into my Profiler Quests not syncing properly?
20:03.16Guest89870Wow tis busy in here...
20:07.12Pattrickno it's really not
20:21.30rosemountGuest89870, what's up
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20:23.14rosemountwaves at Guest89870
20:23.27rosemounthttp://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=195056
20:24.03BlackNetany hunter changes today that anyone knows about?
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20:26.07Guest89870AH right, thanks rosemount, how very strange
20:26.18Luperkhi
20:26.36Guest89870it's like a whole section of Borean Tundra is missing, plus other areas I've quested in earlier too
20:27.35BlackNetcorrection, any hotfixes
20:27.51Mr_Rabiesnothing posted yet BlackNet, why do you ask? :o
20:28.06BlackNetsome heavy talk about there being some changes today via hotfixes
20:28.23BlackNetwanted to see something tangible and not speculation
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20:28.37Mr_Rabiesdoubt it, what would they hotfix?
20:29.15rosemountGuest89870, link me a quest you have completed?
20:29.22Mr_Rabiesunless it's something huge and/or something caused by a bug, balance changes don't really happen with hotfixes
20:29.23rosemountI could check on the armory
20:29.39rosemountKinda like http://us.battle.net/api/wow/quest/11605
20:29.44BlackNethe said not hunters but anything
20:29.57BlackNetfile not found
20:30.50rosemountyep
20:30.55rosemountdoesn't exist on the armory
20:31.07rosemounton the contrary, http://us.battle.net/api/wow/quest/123 (the collector quest)
20:31.20BlackNetthey did reboot everything today, prob speculation related to that
20:31.24AzelphurAs an arcane mage, which of these should I wear for PvE? http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=59326;58183;68710;68777;64645;71337
20:32.16Mr_Rabiessomeone really needs to set up a site that focuses on trinket rankings
20:32.29Azelphurhehe
20:32.31Mr_Rabiesright now there's no good way to figure those out without running a simulator
20:32.39Mr_Rabiesor just hoping someone else has
20:33.04BlackNettrinkets are a whole new ball of wax
20:33.19BlackNetheavy stats in specific areas. best to swap out as needed
20:33.34AzelphurI mean I assume the mithril stopwatch gets one slot, since it's the only ilevel 365 in the bunch
20:33.42Azelphurbut the other 5, dunno...
20:34.27Mr_Rabiesthat's why i'm saying a whole site dedicated to it blacknet
20:34.36Mr_Rabiesthat helps people figure out what's best for each type of fight
20:34.57Mr_Rabiesbecause proc chances, internal cooldown, etc aren't any kind of thing you can get out of a tooltip, etc
20:34.59BlackNeti have like 16 trinkets i use, all as tank
20:35.10AzelphurThe bell of enraging resonance should be good as it dropped in BWD, but dunno if it shares CD with the mithril stopwatch :D
20:35.15BlackNettrinkets allows you to have a somewhat custom feel to the fight
20:35.35Mr_Rabiessounds like a waste of space to me
20:35.40Azelphursame with the stump, they all give chance for increased spellpower
20:35.47Mr_Rabiesno one trinket is gonna win a fight for you
20:36.02fewynis it just me
20:36.02Mr_Rabiesi'd rather use the two that had the most use in most fights
20:36.11fewynor is anyone else getting a second keg for 40 tokens?
20:36.23Azelphurfewyn: I got a second keg for 40 tokens.
20:36.29fewynso it wasn't just me
20:36.35fewynOKAY
20:36.39Azelphurnope, one of my other friends laughed too :P
20:36.45AzelphurI got the goggles :D
20:36.53fewynfine with me
20:36.58fewyni'm only doing it to get the ram
20:37.07Azelphurhehe
20:37.07fewyni got kodo last year
20:37.20BlackNetsame
20:37.25BlackNetand remote
20:37.29BlackNetwas going after the remote
20:37.44Azelphurso does anyone know if the stump of time / bell of enraging resonance / mithril stopwatch can proc at the same time?
20:38.14BlackNetdunno, dont have either.
20:38.20Azelphur:(
20:38.21BlackNetworld of logs can tell you
20:38.54Azelphur\o/
20:39.10BlackNetput both on, go kill shit
20:39.32Azelphurin other news, wowhead is part of my UI now. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/September%202011/2011-09-19-231521_3840x1199_scrot.png
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20:40.32BlackNetdual monitors
20:40.39Azelphurindeed :D
20:41.42BlackNetseen that setup many time.
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21:11.10TikiPriesthow do you do that Azelphur? i kinda want to with my multi monitors
21:11.35AzelphurTikiPriest: make the wow window the size of both your monitors, then use ct_viewport to move the viewable area back onto the main monitor
21:11.46Azelphurthen you have a nice big black box on your second monitor with which to move things to :)
21:11.54TikiPriestoh nice, will it still work with all of my addons?
21:12.10TikiPriestthe cool thing would be to put like an irc client in it
21:12.26AzelphurTikiPriest: all I've done is chrome always on top'd
21:12.34TikiPriestah nice
21:12.38Azelphur(It's kinda easier for me to do these things because I'm on Linux)
21:12.45TikiPriestmeans i have to install chrome lol
21:12.48Azelphurhehe
21:12.52Azelphurany browser would do
21:13.02TikiPriesti use fedora so not much different
21:13.09AzelphurTikiPriest: ah, easy peasy then
21:13.11AzelphurTikiPriest: using compiz?
21:13.22TikiPriestnah laptop only has 256mb vid
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21:13.30Azelphurplaying WoW on that? >.<
21:13.46TikiPriestit works
21:14.18Azelphurif it can run wow, it can surely run compiz no problem
21:14.36TikiPriestill have to give it a try, downloading the ptr atm
21:14.44TikiPriestand updating my naigator on the phone
21:15.29Azelphurbut basically in compiz I just set the WoW window to spawn at 0,0 3840x1199 (I had to remove 1 pixel as compiz seems to try and fullscreen it otherwise which results in weirdness)
21:15.47Azelphurand CT_Viewport so that the WoW window is on the main monitor, and done :)
21:15.53TikiPriestwould be awsome blog post on how to do that
21:16.12Azelphurhaha, I could do but compiz+wow is a bit of a minority :)
21:16.28TikiPriesteh i know a lot of people who use linux and play wow
21:16.39Azelphuryou think?
21:16.41TikiPriest(i'm part of a huge geek community)
21:16.42Azelphur*shrug* I'll write one then
21:16.43Azelphur:)
21:16.55TikiPriestill push it out to twitter when you get it finished
21:16.59Azelphur:D
21:17.06TikiPriestand have a friend who has a ton more followers then me rt it
21:17.17Azelphuryay for adsense monies
21:17.19Azelphuralways an incentive :p
21:17.24TikiPriestim at the ~300 shes over 2k and drew has about 15k
21:17.44Azelphurnice
21:17.59AzelphurI just have http://steamcommunity.com/groups/azelphur-servers \o/
21:18.05TikiPriestlol
21:18.18TikiPriesti may not be on when you're done, if not then you can send a link through memoserv
21:18.29Azelphurkk :)
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21:30.36rosemountYou're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
21:30.36rosemountStranger: hi
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21:30.36rosemountStranger: you toooooooooooo
21:30.36rosemountYou: Thank you. May I ask for your momentary physical and mental health?
21:30.37rosemountStranger: what
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21:31.18rosemountis thoroughly disappointed.
21:33.22rosemounthttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--X2rEZh45OA/TnoENPcmUdI/AAAAAAAAEL4/7BiBeYUJu-U/w399/animalCrackerWars.gif
21:33.37fewyni bite the heads off my animal crackers
21:33.51rosemountInsta kill
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21:40.24Stormkittyrosemount I say my good chap you must type like you are a Gentleman's Gentleman, raised in a proper Victorian household.
21:40.33fewynfuck yeah
21:40.34fewyna shanker
21:40.42fewynoh boo
21:40.44fewynit's souol bound
21:40.54fewynlame
21:41.04Stormkittytrololo
21:41.21TikiPriestwell shit that sucks
21:41.28TikiPriesthasn't it been boe up till now?
21:45.06kullervono it's the mace that was boe
21:45.11kullervowe have one in the guild bank
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21:47.24g0urraI have 3 from the keg
21:47.25g0urrasucks
21:48.48TikiPriestah thanks kullervo
21:48.54TikiPriestcouldnt remember what one it was
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21:49.44StormkittyLooks like there's 2 more things to add to my list of "Things I won't be doing in Skyrim until there's a mod"
21:49.47Stormkitty>Horseback Riding
21:49.49Stormkitty>fighting enemies
21:49.50Stormkitty>cooking
21:49.52Stormkitty>alchemy
21:50.26Mr_Rabiesgames that need mods to function generally aren't worth paying for until they get very cheap
21:50.47Mr_Rabiessee: IL2, ArmA
21:52.02rosemounthttp://pastebin.com/VZRPqZU5
21:52.02StormkittyMr_Rabies, yeah all 4 of those things
21:52.02StormkittyWill be forced 3rd person view
21:52.02StormkittyWell
21:52.05Stormkittyfighting enemies is like
21:52.10Stormkittyrandom forced 3rd person finishers
21:52.20Mr_Rabiesi don't really have a problem with that
21:52.23StormkittyBasically imagine VATS in Fallout 3 except you can't control when it triggers
21:52.32StormkittyYeah well I don't like 3rd person view
21:52.37Stormkittyif I wanted a 3rd person RPG I'd play one
21:52.41Stormkittyand I don't.
21:52.50Mr_Rabiesif the combat's better than morrowind or oblivion i'm down
21:53.07Stormkitty...dude. World of Warcraft has better combat than Morrowind.
21:53.14Mr_Rabiesmorrowind and oblivion have worse combat than freakin' minecraft
21:53.25StormkittyOblivion's combat is actually very good imo
21:53.29Mr_Rabiesit's awful
21:53.33Mr_Rabiesit's so boring
21:53.45Mr_Rabiesmight as well jack the difficulty to very low so you're not just wasting time
21:53.47StormkittyTry playing the game on max difficulty
21:53.54Mr_Rabiessince all that difficulty does is increase their hp and damage done
21:54.03Mr_Rabiesnot their intelligence or anything
21:54.06StormkittyActually no increasing difficulty doesn't increase HP
21:54.15Stormkittyit increases their damage done and decreases your damage done
21:54.21Mr_Rabiessame basic idea
21:54.42Mr_Rabiesif it actually made them more difficult isntead of just taking longer to kill it'd be worth it
21:54.52StormkittyAlso I don't care how beautifully crafted the combat is, if I can't figure out a way to mod out the forced 3rd person finishers
21:54.56StormkittyI'm just gonna play Morrowind
21:55.06Mr_Rabiesi don't see how that bothers you so much
21:55.18StormkittyWhy does it need to be in 3rd person?
21:55.41Mr_Rabieswhy not? it looks cooler than just slapping some dude till he bugs out while ragdolling
21:55.43StormkittyI play all TES games exclusively in 1st person, and if I can't keep doing that well they can just fuck off.
21:57.20Mr_Rabieskind of a weird thing to be so hung up on
21:57.23StormkittyI don't care if it looks cool. It breaks flow.
21:58.11StormkittyImagine it like this: Imagine a movie done entirely in 1st person. Except whenever the guy slaps somebody they cut to 3rd person for no reason.
21:58.21Mr_Rabiesi'd rather be worried about unintersting combat and lots of terrible useless sidequests and other big things than what the camera does when you kill someone occasionally
21:58.22Stormkittyand now imagine he's slapping somebody every 2 minutes
21:58.24Stormkittyfor 2 hours.
21:59.09StormkittyI don't care if the combat's boring. It's a TES game, I /expect/ the combat to be boring.
21:59.12fewynhttp://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/collectibles/e91a/ couldn't resist
21:59.14fewyni ordered a set
21:59.29Mr_Rabiesi'd rather them make a fun game than a TES game i guess
21:59.37StormkittyGo play Derp Age 2 then
21:59.38Stormkitty:|
21:59.41Mr_Rabiesoblivion and morrowind were both big disappointments for me
21:59.48StormkittyI loved Oblivion and Morrowind
21:59.50Mr_Rabiesderp age was a huge disappointment too
22:00.05Mr_Rabiesbioware's been smokin' the bethesda pipe
22:00.18Mr_Rabiesfallout 3 and NV were pretty good, though
22:00.23Mr_Rabiesstill way too damned huge
22:00.29StormkittyMr_Rabies, you know what I hate even more than the combat camera hijinks?
22:00.34StormkittyHorseback riding is also 3rd person only.
22:00.55StormkittyGuess I won't be using horses.
22:01.00Mr_Rabiesi thought deus ex: human revolution did first person rpg better than any bethesda game yet though
22:01.12StormkittyHR was supposed to be an RPG?
22:01.15Mr_Rabiesthough i haven't played daggerfall
22:01.20StormkittyI thought it was just a shitty stealth game
22:01.21Mr_Rabiesor TES1
22:01.31Mr_Rabiesno, it's an action rpg
22:01.35StormkittyI didn't like it.
22:01.45Mr_Rabiesit's more action than DX1 but it's still awesome
22:01.47StormkittyI liked Dragon Age 2's combat though.
22:02.02Stormkittyeverything about DA2 besides the combat
22:02.02Stormkittysucked
22:02.08Mr_Rabiessee i guess that's where we differ
22:02.19Mr_Rabiesi thought DXHR's combat was just about perfect
22:02.20StormkittyEverything about DA:O BESIDES THE COMBAT
22:02.22Stormkittywas amazing
22:02.32StormkittyDA:O combat was like
22:02.33Mr_Rabiesand almost everything else
22:02.33Stormkittyno
22:02.42Mr_RabiesMass Effect has terrible combat too
22:02.45Mr_Rabiesi dunno about 2
22:02.50Mr_Rabiesi heard they fixed a lot of issues with it
22:02.57StormkittyMass Effect combat is even worse than DA:O
22:03.19Mr_RabiesDXHR was basically all i wanted out of bethesda's games
22:03.35StormkittyI thought HR was really boring
22:03.38Mr_Rabiesinstead i got a world so huge they couldn't bother making sure it was interesting
22:03.40StormkittyI didn't even finish the 2nd mission
22:04.21Mr_Rabiesthere's not a ton of useless interactive items scattered all over the place, but there is (noninteractive, thankfully) stuff everywhere
22:04.34Mr_Rabiesso the only interactive items are ones that you'd actually want to interact with
22:04.59Mr_RabiesDXHR is definitely GoTY when it comes to single player for me
22:05.00StormkittyThe point of TES is to do anything you want. Want to hoard all the cutlery in the game world? Go for it.
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22:05.13StormkittyPeople would just mod in making everything interactive anyways
22:05.18Stormkittyif Bethesda didn't make it like that.
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22:05.33Stormkittyand there'd be no end to complaints on the forums about it either
22:05.42Mr_Rabiesbut why would you ever want to do that, it just seems like a waste of time when they could actually make stuff like combat interesting and animations not suck
22:05.43Wardgood evening internets
22:06.02StormkittyYou clearly don't understand the average TES player.
22:06.38Mr_Rabiesi do, they're mostly terrible people who deserve to be placed into a trash compactor
22:06.46Stormkitty...
22:06.50StormkittyWell fuck you too.
22:06.57Wardwhat's TES?
22:07.03Mr_Rabiesthe elder scrolls
22:07.04WardTro Evolution Soccer :p
22:07.07Wardoh
22:07.11Wardlike Oblivion?
22:07.23Mr_Rabiesa series of mediocre games that somehow get rave reviews :[
22:07.33WardI liked Oblivion
22:07.39StormkittyIt's only mediocre to you because you don't understand why they're brilliant.
22:07.40Wardpletty compelling story
22:07.46Wardand the gameplay was decent for a single player RPG
22:08.03Mr_Rabiesthey're not brilliant, they're just needlessly huge and buggy
22:08.04WardI didn't play the earlier TES games
22:08.09StormkittyWard yeah I'm finding more and more things to rage about in Skyrim
22:08.20StormkittyMr_Rabies, go back to playing your enemy hallway FPSes then
22:08.24StormkittyI'll stick with my open world.
22:08.38WardI just did a game BFBC2
22:08.41Mr_Rabieshallways are equally bad design as giant useless overworld
22:08.46Wardhad some 40mm lulz on a badly designed rush map
22:09.03Mr_Rabiesthe only open world game i've truly enjoyed since GTA3 was red faction:guerilla
22:09.16WardGTA3 was meh
22:09.19Mr_Rabiesvice city was pretty fun but it was basically a texture pack for GTA3
22:09.19WardVice City was better
22:09.23StormkittyGTA3 was horrible
22:09.26Stormkittyand bad
22:09.30Stormkittyand you should feel bad for enjoying it
22:09.36Mr_Rabieswhat why
22:09.37WardVice City had better storylines, better graphics and the kicking music
22:09.47StormkittyVice City was infinitely better, and San Andreas better still
22:09.55WardSan Andreas lacked atmosphere
22:09.56Mr_Rabiessan andreas suffered from a lot of problems
22:10.02StormkittyGTA3 was so terrible they didn't even bother voicing the main character
22:10.04Mr_Rabiesi'd love for a remake with all the rpg elements removed
22:10.10Wardbut San Andreas did have the best multiplayer mod ever
22:10.21WardMTA: San Andreas was epic
22:10.28Mr_Rabiesthe rpg elements removed all the fun from san andreas
22:10.28StormkittyYeah but you could ignore the RPG elements in San Andreas quite easily
22:10.35Wardyeah
22:10.37Wardfuck eating
22:10.40Wardfuck exercise
22:10.45WardI just did missions and goofed off
22:10.47StormkittyYou didn't need any of them to beat the game
22:10.50Mr_Rabieshe'd eventually start dying or something if you didn't eat
22:10.53Mr_Rabiesi forget
22:10.53StormkittyNope
22:10.54Wardno
22:10.59Mr_Rabiesstop sprinting or something
22:11.01Mr_Rabiesi forget
22:11.02Wardwell, you could eat to regen HP
22:11.03StormkittyNope
22:11.11Stormkittycomplete ambulance missions
22:11.13Stormkittyinfinite sprint
22:11.14Stormkittyproblem
22:11.15Wardand if you go to the gym for 5 mins at the start of the game
22:11.18Wardyou never have to go again
22:11.19Mr_Rabiesthere was definitely a drawback to not eating
22:11.23Wardhe just stays in shape
22:11.23StormkittyThere wasn't
22:11.29Wardeating regenned HP
22:11.42Wardbut if you didn't lose HP, you didn't need to regen :p
22:11.55StormkittyYeah there was no reason to eat in San Andreas at all
22:11.55Mr_Rabiesit also suffered from ancient engine syndrome
22:12.01StormkittyYou just have a manufacturer memory
22:12.09StormkittyMr_Rabies, the engine was only 3 years old when it released
22:12.11Mr_Rabiesuntil the xbox/pc versions it was almost unplayably ugly and also ran like canned balls
22:12.12Stormkittyit released in 2004
22:12.17StormkittyGTA3 came out in 2001
22:12.32WardGTA was a PC game first up until GTA IV
22:12.40Mr_Rabiesnot true
22:12.41StormkittyWe don't talk about GTA4.
22:12.43Mr_Rabiesuntil 3
22:12.55Wardwell 3 had a console release first, but the PC version was miles better
22:13.02Wardon GTA IV they cocked up both version
22:13.02Mr_Rabies3, VC, SA, and 4 were all delayed by about a year
22:13.04StormkittyGTA4 was the only GTA I have never finished.
22:13.05Mr_Rabiesehh
22:13.09Mr_Rabies3 had a bad port
22:13.15Mr_Rabiesit ran really badly even on good pcs at the time
22:13.20StormkittyI finished 1, 2, 3, VC and SA
22:13.22Mr_RabiesVC ran way better on pc
22:13.22Wardran fine on mine
22:13.27Wardbut I had an original copy
22:13.36WardI heard most problems were with people running bad copies
22:13.48Stormkittymy pirated copy didn't have radio for GTA3 :D
22:13.48Mr_Rabiesi think i bought my copy, i forget, heh
22:13.54Wardmy favourite is still GTA2
22:13.55StormkittyI heard the radio in GTA3 sucked anyways
22:13.59Wardtop down, decent graphics
22:14.01Mr_Rabiesi pirated a lot of shit back then
22:14.02Wardthat and vice city
22:14.08Mr_Rabiesi haven't pirated a game in years though
22:14.11StormkittyVice City is always my favourite
22:14.14WardGTA3 only had 1 decent music channel
22:14.14Stormkittyfor GTA
22:14.20Wardbut GTA3 did have the best talk radio
22:14.23Wardof the entire series
22:14.28StormkittyVice City had Wave 103 and V-Rock for good radio
22:14.32StormkittyWard idk I liked VCPR
22:14.39StormkittyI listened to some Chatterbox on YouTube
22:14.41Stormkittythought it was meh
22:14.43Mr_Rabies4 would be fun with better driving
22:14.44WardSan Andreas had this epic 70s rock channel
22:14.50Wardthat played stuff like CCR
22:14.54WardI forget the name
22:14.56Mr_Rabiesthe combat was way better than all previous games in 4
22:14.56StormkittyI only listened to SFUR in San Andreas
22:14.59Mr_Rabiesjust the driving was AWFUL
22:15.08Wardmy favourite part of San Andreas
22:15.11WardAirplanes!
22:15.14StormkittyYUS
22:15.23WardI loved those little spitfires and the revamped dodo
22:15.41StormkittyI liked the float plane you could get in Vice City
22:15.44Wardwith the spitfires, I'd land on top of skyscrapers
22:15.46Wardsniper for a bit
22:15.53Wardthen stall start off of the roof
22:16.03Wardpick up enough speed free falling to pull out
22:16.12StormkittyWard real men go sniping with the VTOL fighter
22:16.16Wardand fly away with 4 police choppers crashing into the surrounding towers
22:16.23WardI didn't like the vtol fighter
22:16.26StormkittyI did
22:16.31Wardtoo easy to avoid cops with it
22:16.33Stormkittyonce I figure out how to fly it
22:16.42WardI liked to do air acrobatics around the skyscrapers
22:16.45StormkittyI also liked
22:16.47Stormkittyusing the train
22:16.49Stormkitty:D
22:16.50Wardor corkscrew around bridges
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22:17.03Wardand have the cops just go BOOM against pillars
22:17.12Wardyou couldn't do that in the VTOL
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22:17.20Wardit was too fast and not at all maneuvarable
22:17.35StormkittyHow about
22:17.40Stormkittythe commercial jet
22:17.42Stormkittyyou could get
22:17.45Stormkittyafter beating the game
22:17.46Wardthat was just silly
22:17.48Stormkittythe fucking 777
22:17.48Stormkitty:D
22:17.52Wardturning radius of half the map
22:18.00Wardsame for that cargo plane
22:18.15StormkittyI liked the Leerjet you could get
22:18.28Wardthe leerjet I'd always crash
22:18.30Wardalways
22:18.46Wardso is Skyrim out then?
22:18.50WardI should give that a try
22:19.29Wardoh November
22:19.42Wardhow can you have complaints about the game, when it's not coming out for another 2 months?
22:19.57StormkittyBecause they keep releasing more info that makes me think "Another Bethesda flop"
22:20.11StormkittyLike they have a spell designed for morons in Skyrim
22:20.16Stormkittyshows you the path to your next objective
22:20.28Stormkittyand I'm just like T_T
22:21.04Stormkittyokay Mr_Rabies how about a complaint not related to the camera
22:21.09StormkittyThe inventory management in Skyrim
22:21.31Mr_Rabiesi haven't looked into it
22:21.41StormkittyYou know how in Oblivion you could sort by value, damage/armour and name, right?
22:21.55Mr_Rabiesi'm not saying skyrim is a good game, with past experience i will likely not like it
22:22.06Mr_Rabiesmaybe they learned from fallout and will make a fun game
22:22.14StormkittyIn Skyrim you can't. You can't even see the stats of an item without clicking on it.
22:22.18Mr_Rabiesbut morrowind nor oblvion were fun for me
22:22.33StormkittyI thought Fallout 3 was really boring
22:22.36StormkittySame with New Vegas
22:23.22fewynWHAT UP CHICKEN BUTTS
22:23.30Stormkittyoh my god I need to show this to dogel: http://i.imgur.com/dHaCx.jpg
22:24.07fewynching chong potato
22:25.38rosemountYou're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
22:25.38rosemountYou: Hey.
22:25.38rosemountStranger: Hi 13 f USA o:
22:25.38rosemountStranger: Willing to be a sex slave :p
22:25.41Stormkittyhttp://i.imgur.com/5Ltls.jpg I like the top one
22:25.44Stormkittythe best
22:25.52StormkittyKick your ass is wrong I don't want to be right
22:26.59DjaneStormkitty OMG DATE HOW DID IT GO.
22:28.09rosemount"She" disconnected, rofl.
22:29.13StormkittyDjane it's not for another 2 hours
22:29.13Stormkittyman
22:29.17Stormkittyit's only 3.30pm
22:31.47StormkittyAlso if it went well do you really think I'd be on IRC right now
22:31.50Stormkittynot talking about it
22:32.23DjaneDepends
22:32.24StormkittyI'm a horribly insecure forever alone nerd, I'd be singing and fucking running through meadows like this was a Hindu music video
22:32.26Stormkittyif it went well
22:32.32DjaneQuick question
22:32.36Djanewhat the fuck is forever alone.
22:32.54Stormkittyhttp://i.imgur.com/5Ltls.jpg
22:32.56Stormkittyerm
22:32.58blademeldDjane: it's a meme
22:33.00Stormkittyhttp://knowyourmeme.com/memes/forever-alone#.TnpmENS8tuI
22:34.08blademeldalso: Dear God, why do teenage girls have such overdramatic lives?
22:34.38Stormkittyidk
22:34.50blademeldbut you're not god
22:37.10StormkittyThis song is so weird
22:37.11Stormkittynp: Velvet Acid Christ - Pray For Life [05:36m/128kbps/44kHz]
22:37.20StormkittyOf course, with a band name like THAT, it better be.
22:41.14Pattrickblademeld, BECAUSE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND
22:42.12blademeldhey patt
22:43.01Pattrickyo
22:46.55Pattrickbought a blacklight
22:49.54blademeldtimee to strip dance?
22:52.05BlackNethttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRXPrT52jgs
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23:06.16Mr_Rabiesi agree they were a little too early and they're probably not gonna help their shrinking subscriber base stay by nerfing them this early, but i think it's a good thing that everyone get to see a ragnaros kill
23:06.29Mr_Rabiesi think they're pushing for everyone to raid
23:06.57Mr_Rabiesthere's a lot of holdouts to raiding for some reason, even though troll heroics are basically 5 man raids
23:07.19Mr_Rabiesi think they're trying to convince people that anyone can raid, they just need to do it
23:07.25Mr_Rabiesand that's what LFR is gonna do, hopefully
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23:31.46StormkittyMan I forgot how awesome Megas XLR is
23:33.15Azelphurhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/screenshots/September%202011/2011-09-22-003207_828x459_scrot.png it's fun being me :D
23:35.04Mr_RabiesStormkitty: even though our taste in games seems to differ a lot, hi5 for megas
23:35.17StormkittyYou gotta find first gear, in your giant robot car
23:35.22StormkittyCHICKS. DIG. GIANT. ROBOTSA.
23:36.12Mr_Rabiesas a mecha anime nerd it was the best thing ever
23:41.20Mr_Rabiesi went to george krstic's megas panel at dragoncon a few years back, it owned
23:42.24BlackNetdo rag seeds hit the tanks?
23:46.06Mr_Rabiesi believe so
23:46.22Mr_Rabiesi have had them miss me while dpsing once or twice though, somehow
23:47.05JuippisAzelphur: I just got the recipe from canopical jar, and working my ass off to get ultramarine battle tank
23:47.14Mr_Rabieslike, once i misheard which side to run to for seeds
23:47.15Juippisbut I'm starting to believe it's a myth
23:47.33Mr_Rabiesand i crammed into the far corner opposite the raid while still in melee range for rag, and the seed didn't hit me
23:47.47Mr_Rabiesi was expecting to just get brutalized and wipe the raid once seeds exploded
23:47.50Mr_Rabiesbut nope, no seed spawn
23:47.51Mr_RabiesD:
23:54.44Stormkittyoh man in like, 15 minutes I leave for my date
23:55.07Juippisstormkitty + date
23:55.08Juippiswhat
23:55.14JuippisI can't believe this
23:55.15StormkittyJuippis, you can't explain that
23:55.33StormkittyJuippis wait until I tell you how I got the first date (this is the second one)
23:55.50Juippiswell even though I believe he's trap I wish you a happy and successful night1
23:55.50StormkittyShe asked me out after finding out I was a Redditor
23:55.52Stormkittycan't explain that
23:57.35Juippiswell can I troll here a bit
23:57.52Juippishe asked you out because reddit is for fags
23:57.58Stormkitty;;
23:58.03Juippis;D
23:58.11StormkittyHer biceps are so big
23:58.13StormkittyI wanted to just
23:58.14Stormkittykeep
23:58.15Stormkittyrubbing them
23:58.35Juippiswhat
23:58.43StormkittyShe works night shift where I work too
23:59.00StormkittySo she has big arm and leg muscles like everybody else who works there

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