IRC log for #wowhead on 20120317

00:01.04BlackNetbought for 35 gold, sold for 232 gold.
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00:05.07BlackNetwell28 gold with perks and all that crap
00:05.24Wardtoday I put up a recipe for 4g on the goblin AH
00:05.37Wardand it sold instantly, so I figured some guy is sniping everything on there that´s cheap
00:05.53Wardso I go into the booty bay inn, buy 200 mackerel, put em on the AH for 4g each
00:05.56BlackNetdid you list junk for 4g each?
00:05.59Wardyeah
00:06.00BlackNetlol
00:06.01BlackNetthey sell?
00:06.02Wardand he just kept buying
00:06.03Wardfor 20 mins
00:06.04Wardyeah
00:06.08Wardmade a few K total
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00:06.15BlackNetthat's to funny
00:06.17Wardthen I logged my alliance char and whispered to him
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00:06.23Ward¨You´ve been mackereled¨
00:06.50BlackNeti use booty bay to move the alliance pets
00:06.53Wardme too
00:06.59BlackNetlist them for 1 copper each
00:07.02Wardbut I always do a few test posts
00:07.05Wardbefore posting the pets
00:07.09Wardto make sure there´s no snipers
00:07.15BlackNetdual head monitors, sell on left, buy on right
00:07.19BlackNetyup
00:07.19Wardwe do it 2 man, coordinate on vent
00:07.27Wardonly have 1 account
00:07.31Wardsplit the profits
00:07.33Wardplenty to go around
00:07.43BlackNeti have 2 accounts, 2 monitors so im good to go
00:07.58BlackNeti wanna look at alliance only vendor items for xmog on the horde side.
00:07.58Wardwe´re like
00:08.01BlackNetstuff the horde cant buy
00:08.01WardAre you ready?
00:08.03Wardready!
00:08.08Wardpet going up in 3
00:08.09Ward2
00:08.09Ward1
00:08.12WardBUY BUY BUY
00:08.23BlackNetnot sure how to get wowhead to show me that stuff
00:08.34Wardyeah that´s not something you can just filter
00:08.39Wardgonna have to go through shit manually
00:08.47Wardor make your own database which you can query :p
00:08.48BlackNetyup :(
00:09.02BlackNetmight have to do that.
00:09.18BlackNetalso there is no scan setup stuff to show you what you can buy on account a and sell on account b
00:09.30BlackNetthat whole marget is a dead zone
00:11.04BlackNethttp://www.wowhead.com/item=29380 <<-- this bad boy right here
00:13.36BlackNetlol he also sells herbs for dirt cheap you can sell for 1-2 gold each
00:14.41WardI remember I used to buy a ton of thrown daggers from a vendor in Ghostslands
00:14.53Wardthey were kind of rare, and impossible to get on alliance side
00:15.02Wardmade for a good profit before I started trafficing pets
00:15.07BlackNetyup that's what im talking about
00:15.45BlackNeti konw there's an assload of items like that in game to
00:15.48Wardhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=29584
00:15.50Wardthese bitches
00:16.09Ward+2 agi, perfect for level 19 twinks back then
00:16.21Wardsold like hotcakes
00:16.39BlackNetthat database would have to show faction vendors and boe items
00:17.55BlackNethmm usable by alliance, sold by vendor, bind on equip flags maybe/
00:18.27Wardwell you´d need the vendor, but also the vendor´s alignment
00:18.34StormscapeSo apparently FTL travel is theoretically possible, we just don't know how to do it.
00:18.34Wardif the vendor is friendly to alliance it´s no use
00:18.44Wardso is time travel
00:19.04StormscapeWard no like it was mathematically proven to be possible
00:19.09Wardyeah
00:19.09StormscapeWe just don't know how to do it
00:19.11Wardso was time travel
00:19.15Stormscapeo rly
00:19.17Wardlike 100 years ago
00:19.30StormscapeDo you mean forwards, or backwards in time
00:19.35Wardforwards
00:19.38StormscapeWell duh
00:19.39Wardbackwards gets tricky
00:19.45BlackNetthere was this one leatherworking pattern sold in  azshara before cata came out.
00:19.51StormscapeBackwards is just one giant pile of fuck you
00:19.56BlackNetbuy price was stupidly low and ah price was way high
00:20.15Wardyeah there´s also an alchemy recipe that some dude in 1k needles sold
00:20.22Wardvendor price 1g
00:20.24WardAH price 300g
00:20.31BlackNetyup
00:20.32Wardjust because nobody bothered to check where it was from
00:20.43Wardexcept me, I check everything
00:20.50WardI can´t play wow without wowhead
00:20.53BlackNetoh this one guy who wanted had these jumper cables.
00:20.55BlackNetthose things sold like mad
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00:21.38WardI remember back in the day I had engineering on my mage, and I´d always use those jumper cables as an excuse to hang back on wipes and invis
00:21.38Stormscapeoh, computer websites
00:21.41Stormscape>guy buys OCZ SSD
00:21.47Stormscape>surprised when it bricks after 1 month
00:21.47Wardso I could res a healer
00:22.02WardI have an OCZ SSD in my gaming PC
00:22.05Wardruns smooth so far
00:22.17Wardhad it since september
00:22.26BlackNethmmm
00:22.27BlackNethttp://www.wowhead.com/items=2?filter=si=-1;cr=128;crs=7;crv=0
00:22.28StormscapeIt's basically a ticking bomb
00:22.37BlackNetthis is alliance only and it's bop everything
00:23.02WardFoobar now playing: Django Django - Default
00:23.10Warddoes the funky deskchair dance
00:23.29Wardif it bricks, I fix
00:23.36Wardby buying another SSD that isn´t OCZ
00:23.41Stormscape:D
00:23.52StormscapeI recommend Samsung, Intel, or Crucial for your next one
00:23.55Stormscapewhen it bricks
00:23.56Wardnothing on that drive that´s vital anyway, just a hassle to reinstall all those games
00:23.58StormscapeCause it will
00:24.02WardI have an intel in my laptop
00:24.03BlackNetdont see an option or way to do vendor alignment
00:24.30Wardyou you´d basically need to call a relationship from the database and select from that
00:24.33Wardnot possible in wowhead
00:24.38Wardneed an actual database for that
00:24.41BlackNetyea was worth a check
00:25.20Wardthat list is only 49 items
00:25.59BlackNetand only weapons
00:26.04BlackNetboe from vendor
00:26.08Wardyou gotta remove alliance only from the filter, because it´s gonna filter on stuff on alliance can use
00:26.10Wardnot just buy
00:26.24Wardthere´s BoP stuff in there
00:26.30BlackNetmost all of that is bop
00:26.33BlackNetyeras
00:27.17Wardcan you select gold as a currency?
00:27.38BlackNet?
00:27.45BlackNetoh
00:27.46Wardif you can set purchasable with gold <0
00:27.51Wardyou weed out all the token stuff
00:28.06BlackNeti see here on this list they have jp, darkmoon tickets, etc.
00:28.08Wardbut gold isn´t in the currency list :p
00:28.19NoxyHonk.
00:28.20BlackNetbet that token stuff woudl get a good amount
00:28.28WardEmblems that don´t exist anymore are in the list
00:28.30Wardbut not gold :p
00:28.47Laihendihttp://www.news.com.au/world/kony-2012-film-maker-jason-russell-arrested-for-masturbating-in-public/story-e6frfkyi-1226302345885 he's hot i wish i had seen that
00:28.58BlackNettry this one.
00:28.59BlackNethttp://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=cr=3:178:92;crs=1:1:1;crv=0:0:0#0+14+4+1
00:29.02BlackNeter http://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=cr=3:178:92;crs=1:1:1;crv=0:0:0#0+14+4+1
00:30.10BlackNethmm lemme look
00:30.52BlackNetYUP
00:30.53BlackNetthought so
00:30.56BlackNethttps://theunderminejournal.com/?realm=H-hyjal&search=replica take a peek at this
00:31.28Wardhttp://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=qu=2;si=3;cr=92:3:178;crs=1:1:1;crv=0:0:0
00:31.43Wardthat filter is a good starting point
00:32.06Wardall BoE greens sold by vendor that can be used by both factions and can be transmogged
00:32.11BlackNetmissing vendor alignment
00:32.20Wardwell that can´t be done in wowhead :p
00:32.30Wardbut 66 items is doable
00:32.31Wardmanual
00:32.45BlackNetyup
00:33.04BlackNetalso faction rating items :)
00:33.19BlackNetrequires x standing with y to buy
00:33.46Stormscapeanybody else like making funny noises when they burp?
00:34.29BlackNetOH
00:34.47BlackNetquality needs to be fixed
00:35.16BlackNetwhen you choose all items -=> 257 items found
00:36.36Wardfound one!
00:36.37Wardhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=12255
00:36.56Wardand another
00:36.56Wardhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=29583
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00:37.07BlackNetthere ya go
00:37.11BlackNetsodl by horde.
00:37.18BlackNetnow on an alliance server that woudl go for a good amount
00:37.39BlackNethttps://theunderminejournal.com/item.php?realm=H-hyjal&item=12255
00:37.45BlackNet29g 24s 95c US Horde Market Price
00:38.17BlackNetcost 3.49g
00:38.21Wardhttp://www.wowhead.com/item=29584
00:38.48Wardthere´s only 3x BOE greens that are sold on only one faction but can be used by the other
00:39.29Wardso you can exclude greens from any further search
00:39.35BlackNetk
00:40.07BlackNetoh
00:40.09Wardfor search for blues and purples setting the currency would make a huge diff
00:40.18BlackNetfaction recipe's for cooking and the like
00:40.23Wardyeah those do well
00:41.10BlackNetoh found it
00:41.35WardI gotta go get some sleep
00:41.36Wardgoodnight
00:41.53BlackNethttp://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=qu=2:3:4;si=3;cr=3:178:92:64;crs=1:1:1:1;crv=0:0:0:1
00:41.55BlackNethere ya go
00:42.17BlackNetcrap it still shows tickets and points
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00:48.05CyberTailsHello Everyone
00:48.22CyberTailsI was wondering if anyone can send me a scroll of resurrection?
00:48.39JunkHeadus or eu?
00:49.06CyberTailsUS
00:49.17JunkHeadwhat's your email adress?
00:49.20JunkHeadi'll send one
00:49.29CyberTailsbarkthepolarbear@hotmail.com
00:49.58JunkHeadsent.
00:50.41CyberTailsthankies
00:51.07JunkHeadnp
00:57.03NoxyI missed another one!
00:57.04Noxyhaha.
00:59.44BlackNetok now to camp lil timmy :)
00:59.45StormscapeFor doggle_: http://i.imgur.com/Yv1on.jpg
01:05.40BlackNeti see race and class specific but not faction specific :(
01:23.10Mr_Rabiesi like how they have clown noses in the crazy contortion one
01:23.18Mr_Rabiesball gags?
01:46.09Laihendii agree
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01:48.50fewynhttp://sorryformay15.com/
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01:59.19BlackNetsweet
01:59.21BlackNetmoebus is up
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01:59.27BlackNetnpcscan went off in stormwind
02:02.17StormscapeI just had an amazing idea. Elder Scrolls RTS.
02:07.43BlackNetjust killed moebus
02:07.47BlackNetso world bosses are up
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04:51.25doggle_Stormscape oh god lol
05:15.17LugburzO_O
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14:29.36BlackNethmm this is going to be interesting
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14:35.47tateahh
14:35.56tategin tonic
14:39.33BlackNetlol
14:39.36BlackNethttp://www.tukui.org/forums/topic.php?id=19825
14:39.42BlackNetLet's be honest, 90% of WoW players don't want to see their time played.
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14:49.06JunkHeadmine is 457 days.:\
14:49.34BlackNet256 days 23 hours here
14:50.07BlackNeti wish our in game gear sets was avail on the armory so we could swap all that shit out and see without having to relog and reload
14:51.30BlackNethttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/hyjal/blacknet/advanced my 4p set
15:02.58BlackNetoh crap!
15:03.16BlackNetwhen my trink procs my block alone is 103%
15:08.32Jammer103% block? lol :p
15:08.57BlackNetyea from 1 trinket
15:09.11BlackNetthis -=> http://www.wowhead.com/item=77990#comments
15:09.54BlackNet62.34% norma
15:11.22BlackNet103./48
15:11.38BlackNetlol that's fucking insane
15:12.10BlackNetprocs every 120 seconds
15:12.14BlackNetlike clockwork
15:14.39BlackNethere
15:14.39BlackNethttp://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/wow/WoWScrnShot_031712_111115.jpg.html
15:15.09BlackNetLOL 143.53% total avoidance while it's proc'd
15:17.44BlackNetLOL it procs on the 2nd or 3rd hit on start to
15:19.34BlackNetand censure alone will proc it
15:24.19NoxyButt.
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15:30.50Joltey kittens
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15:48.32tategiiiinnn ttoniiccc
15:48.35tatenomnom
15:53.14kullervoI do not think you have 143.53% total avoidance
15:54.58kullervoalso related BlackNet http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/misc/various/assorted/paladin_t2.jpg
15:56.00BlackNetwell block alone is the 103 it just added 5% miss dodge parry block
15:56.15kullervoblock isn't avoidance
15:56.22BlackNetdidnt' say it was
15:56.35BlackNetactually i did
15:56.39kullervo:P
15:56.44BlackNetshould have been CTC
15:56.51BlackNetmy bad
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16:40.59DjaneBlackNet, congratulations of having the mostp ointless paladin tank trinket in Dragon soul.
16:41.26tate:F
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16:45.11g0urraDjane: point to the direction of better non-random tank trinkets
16:45.21Djaneg0urra, happily.
16:45.51DjaneIn order of BiS to Not BiS
16:46.34Djanefor protadins.
16:47.52Djaneright now it's Indominitable pride(random) heroic -> Resolve of undying heroic -> Indom pride(random) normal -> Resolve of undying normal -> Scales of life heroic -> Spidersilk spindle heroic -> and then I'm not sure between heroic soulshifter or normal mode scales
16:48.19g0urra>non-random
16:48.25DjaneIndeed
16:48.35g0urra>Indominitable pride(random) heroic
16:48.41g0urrayour reading skills are impressive
16:48.41DjaneWhich leaves Resolve of undying, scales of life, spindersilk spindle above it
16:48.49DjaneI added them for context.
16:49.53DjaneMain issue with soulshifter? Proc is worthless, completely and utterly worthless for protadins.
16:50.47Djaneand whilst the pure stam is nice, you can esaily rgem into pure stamina away from mastery to make up for a lot of that
16:51.04g0urrahow about veil of lies?
16:51.26robotiggerIt's all lies
16:51.37Djaneg0urra, also better. Forgot about that one.
16:51.46robotiggeralso, I'm impressed, I last all of about an hour with that scroll of ress :/
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18:15.49LumindiaDammit
18:15.51LumindiaI don't want Fel Iron
18:15.53LumindiaI want Adamantite
18:15.54LumindiaD:
18:16.19neutronimity.__. Nagrand?
18:27.27LumindiaI'm at Blade's Edge
18:27.30Lumindiaseem to be having more luck there
18:27.30Lumindia@_@
18:29.01LumindiaJust need 8 more then I can get the hell out of Outland
18:31.49LumindiaFijnally
18:31.50Lumindia:D
18:31.52LumindiaTO NORTHREND!
18:34.34robotiggerLumindia, hit the IQD circuit
18:34.55LumindiaWHOO! 350 JC!
18:34.55Lumindia:D
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18:41.22LumindiaIs there a JC level requirement for Dalaran dailies?
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18:44.28LumindiaOff to Northrend
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19:43.08Serenetihi
19:43.36Serenetianyone in here??
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19:45.09Serenetii have a question
19:45.23Laihendiok
19:45.32Laihendiim here :)
19:45.34Serenetido you know anything about warlocks?
19:45.42Laihendiyeah
19:45.56Laihendii have a warlocck
19:45.59Serenetiwhats the best talent build for warlocks?
19:46.28Laihendihang on i'll link you my build
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19:48.13Serenetiok
19:48.14Laihendijk i dont play wow
19:48.41Serenetiwhy not>
19:49.14Laihendibecause there are other things that i would rather do with my time/money
19:50.20Serenetithen why did you say you had a warlock?
19:51.31Laihendii'm a compulsive liar
19:52.18Serenetiwhy are you in here?
19:52.22g0urrathere's no "best" talent build
19:52.32Serenetitheres not?
19:52.35g0urrano
19:52.36Laihendii'm here because rose is hot and i love him
19:53.07Serenetithen what do you recommend?
19:53.12Laihendidestro
19:53.45Serenetig0urra what do you recommend?
19:53.53g0urranothing
19:53.57g0urraI don't play a warlock
19:54.10Serenetiwhats the best class?
19:54.26g0urraall of them
19:54.38Serenetithat makes no sense
19:54.39Laihendithats not true mages are shit
19:54.58Serenetihow do you know lai?
19:55.05Serenetiyou dont even play
19:55.18Laihendii used to
19:55.31Serenetiwhat char do you have?
19:55.34robokittyback when 2MM were the shit?
19:56.07Laihendii had a mage and i got bottom dps in raids pretty much every time that class is so bad
19:56.14DjaneErrr no.
19:56.33DjaneMages have always been strong dps wise.
19:57.00Serenetiyea
19:57.01Serenetidjane is right
19:57.09Djaneand as for warlocks, strongest pve spec is fight dependant. Demo wins on stand and nuke
19:57.16Laihendiexcuse me but i played a mage for almost 7 years
19:57.19DjaneDestro wins on 1 or 2 target fights
19:57.27DjaneAnd affli wins on aoe fights
19:57.41DjaneLaihendi, right now mages are solid mid of the pack, in T12 they were near the top, in T11 they were the top
19:57.42robokittyand Zorzy-Worzy wins on them all
19:57.42Serenetiwhats pve?
19:57.44DjaneIn ICC they were the top
19:57.51DjaneSereneti, raids basically
19:57.58DjaneIn ToC they were strong as hell
19:58.02DjaneIn ulduar they were near the top
19:58.10DjaneIn naxx they were strong as hell.
19:58.25robokittybecause of that damn arcane absorb or wth it was called :P
19:58.34DjaneIncanters absorption, yeah.
19:58.43DjaneThat didn't get nerfed till ICC, and it was SO strong
19:58.53robokittyTwins was borderline amusing
19:58.57robokittyerh
19:58.59robokittyValks
19:59.01DjanePulling 15k dps on twin valks in i200 blues
19:59.02robokittyTwin valks, yeah
19:59.57DjaneSo yeah Laihendi since mages have been consistantly amongst the top dps classes i nthe game, and have ALWAYS been strong pvp-wise, explain how they're shit?
20:00.15robokittybecause he's trolling for a reaction? *shrug*
20:00.15Laihendimages cant even heal if you try to tank you die almost instantly
20:00.28robokittysee
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20:00.40DjaneEvocation/Ice block/Ice barrier/Mage ward/Mana shield.
20:00.47DjaneAlso. THey're not healers or tanks.
20:01.07sereneti_on warlocks what is fight dependant destro and demo?
20:01.31Djanesereneti, stand and nuke fights where you don't ahve to move : Demo wins out
20:01.42DjaneOn fights with 2 targets and some movement, destro wins out
20:02.11sereneti_what is destro that a talent build?
20:02.24Djane...Yes.
20:02.27DjaneDestruction.
20:02.28robokittyit's a talent tree
20:02.30sereneti_which one?
20:02.34sereneti_is it
20:02.41robokitty31/31/31
20:02.52robokitty^^ that one, you absolutely destroys everything
20:02.57BlackNetok that's 5/8 so far
20:02.59sereneti_oh demonology destruction and ....
20:03.13DjaneAffliction
20:03.32sereneti_so demonology is best when you dont have to move
20:03.40Djaney
20:03.43robokittyAffli is "Dots do all the work", Demo is "Demon does all the work", Destro is "LOL I DO ALL THE WORK"
20:04.16robokittyAffli is also known as "GOD DAMNIT, I DON'T WANT TO MOVE NOW, I HAVE DOTS TO REFRESH"
20:04.42sereneti_what are dots?
20:04.52Djanedamage over time spells
20:05.00sereneti_ohh i hate those
20:05.02sereneti_LAWL
20:05.14sereneti_i think i am gonna go for destro
20:05.16sereneti_sound good?
20:06.19sereneti_?
20:07.03sereneti_you guys there?
20:07.10Laihendii'm here :)
20:07.15sereneti_lol
20:07.42sereneti_why would you quit wow after 7 years/
20:08.05Laihendii didn't i only played for like 3 years
20:08.13sereneti_whyd u quit
20:08.38Laihendiit became boring for e
20:08.41Laihendime
20:09.00sereneti_is the game over when you hit level 89?
20:09.02sereneti_85
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20:09.50Laihendino you can still level other characters too
20:11.10BlackNetanyoen here done heroic lootship?
20:11.18BlackNet10m
20:12.02neutronimitysereneti_ it's far from being over at level 85
20:12.14sereneti_but is the game done at level 85 for that char?
20:12.18neutronimityNo
20:12.24sereneti_then what do you do?
20:12.44Laihendithere are fishing contests on saturdays
20:12.55sereneti_shut up lai
20:13.01Laihendiok
20:13.19neutronimityPeople choose to commit to raiding, collecting pets, mounts, completing achievements, perfecting their gear, exploring Azeroth&Outlands, doing quests to learn about the lore and current events
20:13.22sereneti_you have played for 3 years and have nothing to show for it
20:14.06sereneti_exploring azeroth?
20:14.07sereneti_for whta
20:14.09sereneti_what
20:14.19neutronimityVirtually everything.
20:14.53sereneti_what achievements?
20:14.55neutronimityAnd the reason may just be fun, curiosity, boredom and so on..
20:15.02Laihendiwhat am i supposed to have to show for playing wow
20:15.08neutronimityNone at all
20:15.13neutronimityIt's entirely optional
20:15.31sereneti_whats lore?
20:16.00neutronimityLore is the information you retain about Azeroth or Outland history
20:16.07sereneti_ohh
20:16.09neutronimity(I think)
20:16.21neutronimityA lot of lore is transmitted through quests
20:16.32sereneti_i heard there is a battlegrounds and my buddy played there every day
20:17.17neutronimityBattlegrounds are instances, but instead of being like a dungeon, you have to fight against other players to complete certain objectives
20:17.31DjaneBlackNet> anyoen here done heroic lootship? : Everyone?
20:18.24sereneti_is pvp fun??
20:18.37neutronimityDepnds
20:18.40neutronimityDepends
20:18.44sereneti_oh
20:18.47BlackNetsometimes yes
20:18.50BlackNetsometimes no
20:19.17sereneti_yesterday i was doing a level 30 quest when a level 20 alliance attacked me and killed me in two shots
20:19.29sereneti_how would a level 20 beat me when i was level 30?
20:19.29neutronimityIt's fun when you're winning, it's fun when you're fighting against a team with them and you being at an equally high level
20:19.37BlackNetsereneti_ that's not pvp
20:19.43sereneti_i kow
20:19.45sereneti_know
20:19.47Laihendilet me guess it was a paladin
20:19.52sereneti_rogue
20:19.59sereneti_why you say pally?
20:20.06BlackNetrogues and mages have way to much control in pvp
20:20.14neutronimityIt's not fun getting ganked (repeatedly killed again and again) at one's graveyard
20:20.16BlackNethence why mages are getting an ass raping next pack
20:20.27Laihendi^ mages are shit
20:20.36Djane...
20:20.45sereneti_my friend was with me and he was a paladin and the rogue was killing him too
20:20.46DjaneMages are one of the strongest pvp classes in the game.
20:21.02Laihendii'm talking about raid utility
20:21.05BlackNetso much for class equality
20:21.22BlackNetLaihendi the subject is pvp not raid
20:21.39Laihendisereneti the rogue player was probably just better than you and your friend since you're new
20:21.45DjaneLaihendi, if only they brought 3% raid damage, 5% crit, bloodlust/heroism, 2k mana, second best burst in the game
20:21.52sereneti_how was he better at level 20?
20:22.06BlackNetsimple
20:22.10BlackNettiming, distance and angle
20:22.21BlackNethe got the jump
20:22.43sereneti_is there secret gear that he could have got from level 85 char
20:22.52DjaneTechnically yes.
20:22.54DjaneHeirloom items
20:22.59sereneti_whats that?
20:23.03BlackNetsereneti_ pull his toon on the armory and check it out
20:23.15sereneti_what site is it?
20:23.25sereneti_his name was rachaelrayy
20:23.38BlackNetus relam?
20:23.42sereneti_yeah
20:24.11BlackNethttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/smolderthorn/Rachaelrayy/advanced
20:24.13BlackNetthis one?
20:24.37sereneti_yes
20:24.37neutronimityI would believe so
20:24.43sereneti_what does he have?
20:24.53neutronimityThat guy has items (heirlooms) whose stats scale with level
20:25.21BlackNet4x
20:25.34BlackNetmissing 4 heirlooms
20:25.36sereneti_his shoulder armor has over 700 armor
20:25.41Laihendihe has a higher gear score than my hunter
20:26.14neutronimityarmor doesn't matter that that much - it's the stats
20:26.15BlackNetlol @ gearscore
20:26.27sereneti_1016 chest armor
20:26.46neutronimityergh
20:26.51BlackNethere. this is full and proper heirloom setup -=> http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/hyjal/suicidefail/advanced
20:26.57neutronimitythat really really does look like a free to play twink
20:28.16sereneti_wanna see my character
20:28.22Laihendiya
20:28.27sereneti_Sereneti is the name
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20:28.58neutronimityErrm there are 3 :) which realm?
20:29.46sereneti_what sit edo i search?
20:29.55Laihendihttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/smolderthorn/Sereneti/simple
20:30.03neutronimitythere are 23* my bad
20:30.04neutronimityhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/search?q=sereneti&f=wowcharacter
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20:30.31sereneti_what do you guys think?
20:31.28Laihendii'm impressed
20:31.55sereneti_whys that?
20:32.19Laihendii was expecting you to have a +str item on or something
20:33.06sereneti_whats that do?
20:33.10neutronimityI don't find that funny Laihendi
20:33.54neutronimitysereneti_ - a strength stat increases your attack power - pretty worthless for a Warlock
20:33.54Laihendimost people who start playing wow stack the wrong stats dont act like it isnt true
20:34.30sereneti_ohh
20:34.51sereneti_i went to the auctioneer in under city and i couldnt find any good armor for a decent price
20:35.24sereneti_where could i upgrade?
20:35.30neutronimityI would recommend you to quest - a lot of people feel they are supposed to buy armor but I honestly don't agree with them
20:35.32BlackNetsereneti_ you have a level 85 toon?
20:35.43sereneti_no?
20:35.57BlackNetwhat's yoru guild rep at
20:36.59sereneti_not sure
20:40.04BlackNetwell look at it this way
20:40.24BlackNetat your level it's more important to learn what you are given than to focus on things like armor, dps and the like.
20:40.27BlackNetlearn the class
20:41.13sereneti_ok
20:41.19sereneti_i have a char named hedrusel
20:41.27sereneti_but it dont show up
20:41.31sereneti_on armory
20:41.33BlackNetunder level 10?
20:43.09sereneti_no
20:43.11sereneti_level 40
20:48.17BlackNetshoudl show up then
20:48.28sereneti_try it
20:48.30sereneti_hedrusel
20:48.54sereneti_http://us.battle.net/wow/en/search?q=hedrusel
20:49.36Laihendidid you delete it?
20:52.32sereneti_no
20:52.35sereneti_its there
20:52.42sereneti_i was just on it
20:53.29Laihendiidk then
20:53.37sereneti_did you go to the link?
20:54.05Laihendiya
20:55.19sereneti_wheres ur char
20:55.21sereneti_lemme se
20:57.02sereneti_i have 10,000 gold where can i buy really good cloth armor
20:57.04sereneti_?
20:57.40Laihendihow did you get 10k gold?
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20:59.37BlackNetproblem with lower levels like that is in a few levels it's worthless
20:59.39BlackNetsave it
20:59.54BlackNetit will cost approx 10k-11k to get all the training stuff you need
21:00.23Laihendihas there been hyperinflation or something since i quit?
21:00.55sereneti_LOL
21:01.11BlackNethow much is flying and north flying
21:01.19sereneti_what?
21:01.34BlackNetand how much is all training cost from level 1 to level 85
21:01.48BlackNetand how much is glyphs
21:01.59sereneti_i just want to get good armor for easy leveling
21:02.15sereneti_money doesnt do any good right now
21:02.23tateohai everyoen
21:03.10tatei'm like 3+ 3 per mil drunk atm and going to leave ya guys like nao
21:03.24tatemaybe much more lol
21:03.31Laihendinice bro
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21:05.58LumindiaDo the Focusing Lenses DO anything useful?
21:10.15fewynno
21:15.48BlackNetonly if your doing rp stuff :)
21:16.59hyljethey let you focus
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21:25.04sereneti_Lai
21:26.30Jammerdid blizz change how dungeon npc aggro works? seems that the npcs start evading after a while now?
21:33.40JunkHeadKILL THEM FASTER!!!!!
21:34.44hyljeit's not hard
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21:53.05serenetihey guys
21:53.12serenetiwhat are good professions for a warlock?
21:54.19sereneti??
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21:54.56neutronimitysereneti, preference, really
21:55.20serenetiwhat can you make that would benefit a warlock?
21:56.16Laihendii think anything but blacksmithing and leatherworking
21:56.18Snorkeyhey every1 ...im pretty new to WoW and am in need of some help.. just wondering if anyones willing to help me out
21:56.30Laihendii'll help you bro :)
21:56.33JammerLaihendi: what's wrong with BS? free sockets :p
21:57.36SnorkeyWell.. i have a worgen druid... and im almost a level 20 however im not sure if im doing the right profs
21:57.44Snorkeyor if it even matters
21:58.39Laihendii think its generally better to not worry about professions until you're done leveling
21:59.35Snorkeyhmm.. okayy
22:00.02serenetiyeah for sure
22:00.15serenetiwhat are the available profs?
22:00.42Snorkeywell i already have profs i just wasnt sure if it was a big deal on what ones you chose
22:01.13serenetiwhat profs are there i mean
22:02.01Snorkeybs and mine
22:02.30serenetiwhat others?
22:02.31serenetialchemy?
22:02.39Snorkeyyeah
22:03.09serenetiand what makes jewels?
22:03.10JammerSnorkey: gathering skills in general aren't that great choice for purely min/maxing your stats, but they can provide nice income
22:03.11sereneticrafting?
22:03.39Jammersereneti: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/profession/
22:03.41serenetijammer i have 10k
22:03.58Snorkeyso it really doesnt matter what profession i have
22:04.07Jammernot really
22:04.20SnorkeyOkay thankyou.. thats what i wanted to know
22:04.21Lumindiawell that was interesting
22:04.25Lumindiawe attempted For The Horde
22:04.29Lumindiadidn't do very well
22:04.37Jammeryou'll be looking at about +90 stat bonus when you have maxed out your prof
22:04.52Laihendiya pretty sweet bro
22:05.05Lumindiaalso, I got my JC up to 407 so far
22:05.13Lumindianot too much longer until I can start making the REAL moneymakers
22:05.13Lumindia:D
22:05.23serenetijewel crafting?
22:05.33LumindiaYep
22:05.42serenetiis that how u make money?
22:05.49Snorkeyso one more question.. should i work on my prof while i level or after im done?
22:05.55Lumindiawell, right now it's how I'm LOSING money
22:05.57LumindiaXD
22:06.07LumindiaCan't be assed to go out and mine the materials myself. @_@
22:06.10serenetihow much can you make JC?
22:06.13LumindiaFuck farming for saronite
22:06.25JammerSnorkey: generally it'll be easier to farm the materials for crafting professions after you're 85
22:06.26LumindiaOn my server, Brilliant Inferno Rubies go for nearly 300g a piece
22:06.37Snorkey<PROTECTED>
22:06.44JammerSnorkey: gathering professions you might aswell train while leveling
22:07.00Jammerthey'll also give you XP per node collected
22:07.08serenetiare you on a highly populated server?
22:07.15LumindiaKorialstrasz(Go ahead, laugh at me)
22:07.44sereneti?
22:07.53LumindiaNOBODY likes korialstrasaz
22:07.54Lumindia>_
22:07.56Lumindia>_>
22:09.15serenetiwhy
22:09.34LumindiaI dunno
22:09.35hyljetalk about clusterfuck name
22:09.37Lumindiait's a dead realm
22:09.47hyljeBECAUSE NOBODY CAN SPELL IT
22:10.28serenetiwould tailoring be a smart choice for a warlock so i can make cloth armor?
22:11.42sereneti??
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22:14.25Stormscape"Facebook linked with narcissism" they had to do a study to figure this out?
22:14.41hyljethey have to do a study to verify it against the hypothesis
22:15.10hyljeobvious in hindsight statements are great fodder for entry level science
22:15.23serenetiwhats narcissism
22:15.46hyljeunhealthy levels of self-centeredness
22:16.26serenetiwhy would that be?
22:16.31Stormscape...
22:16.52hyljeneglect and abuse of your friends
22:17.04hyljeamong other thing
22:17.20Laihendiwow splice is such a bad movie
22:17.53serenetiso im a warlock and if i was a tailor i could make my own armor?
22:19.22sereneti?
22:19.39Jammermaybe, but most likely you won't be able to level your tailoring fast enough to have any use of the armor you make
22:20.13StormscapeOkay guys I got a conundrum. Size 11 steel toes are too tight (not by much, only enough that my pinkie toe gets squeezed), and Size 12 steel toes are so floppy they're like slippers. wat do
22:20.55hyljethick socks
22:21.41g0urrain your shoes, not pants
22:26.09Laihendisize 11.5
22:26.31Stormscapesteel toe capped half sizes are a lot rarer
22:26.34Stormscapethan with regular shoes
22:26.58Laihendimaybe if you get size 12 you'll grow into them
22:27.02StormscapeNo
22:27.04StormscapeI won't
22:27.08Stormscapethey're too big
22:27.12Stormscapethey slip off my feet
22:28.42StormscapeIt could be that I just need to break these new ones in
22:28.46Stormscapeas they're made of leather
22:32.17LumindiaI'm a Miner/JC
22:32.18Lumindia:D
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22:34.11hyljeLumindia: i have a drood gather slave and main with 2x crafting prof
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22:35.51Lumindia:P
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22:37.09serenetiwhats up
22:40.23tateoh my
22:40.55tatei just puked
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22:41.12tateafter 10 hours of alcoholmode* 2
22:41.22tatethen one shot and job well done
22:41.25tate*puke*
22:42.54tateoh it's 11*
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22:48.26JoltYESSSSSSSSSSSS
22:48.27JoltOMFG
22:48.31Jolt*DIES*
22:48.41JoltDraconic Avengeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
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23:04.04fewyn1051 fortune cards, time to flip them
23:10.46Joltfewyn: I am so happy atm D:
23:10.47Jolt:D
23:10.56fewyn?
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23:17.36fewyn1 200g blue, 2 50g blue
23:17.39fewynno purples
23:17.44fewynout of over 1000 cards
23:17.46fewynsadface
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23:32.03WardRNG is random
23:32.15Wardyou could flip a million cards and never get a purple
23:32.31Wardor you can be like me, wondering what fortune cards, buy one from the AH
23:32.33Wardand get a purple
23:36.11hyljewhat's the expected value from a fortune card
23:38.06Wardsomeone did the math once in the forums
23:38.14WardI think the average worth is 30 silver
23:41.34fewynyou typically break even or end at a slight loss
23:41.45fewyni lost this week
23:42.23Warddoesn´t that depend on the value of materials on your realm?
23:42.32fewynyeah
23:42.38Wardon low pop realms the break even point is much higher
23:43.11fewyngot next to no greens this week
23:43.19fewynwhich was really disappointing
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