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| 01:16.03 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] Hallow's End (October 18 - October 31) Guide - http://www.wowhead.com/news=207465/hallows-end-october-18-october-31-guide |
| 01:25.02 | Amarande | http://notalwaysworking.com/someones-about-to-get-fired/26161 heh ... "lp1 on fire" indeed! :) |
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| 04:20.34 | Eraclito | ...i was fighting a rare ram and the game decided to disconnect me. it's all the night i have troubles staying online and loading battle.net sites |
| 04:24.16 | Eraclito | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=61456 <- oh well, can't be captured |
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| 05:09.58 | Elysa | Eraclito: I've run into several uncapturable pets |
| 05:10.06 | Elysa | I get all excited that there's a pet I don't have yet |
| 05:10.16 | Elysa | And then it's because I'm not allowed to catch it :( |
| 05:10.50 | Paaarn | I say we protest |
| 05:11.10 | Paaarn | it feels like I downloaded that mod to make pet battles look like pokemon for nothing |
| 05:13.22 | Eraclito | why for nothing? |
| 05:13.46 | Paaarn | if I can't catch em all, what is the point in living anymore? |
| 05:13.57 | Eraclito | oh lol :P |
| 05:14.12 | Eraclito | well you actually can't catch em all in pokemon games too |
| 05:14.19 | Eraclito | you need to trade, attend events, etc |
| 05:14.25 | Elysa | I just finished up the Cataclysm trainers |
| 05:14.30 | Elysa | the last dude in Uldum has epic pets! |
| 05:14.32 | Elysa | I'm jealous |
| 05:14.56 | Eraclito | i'm just at lv16 |
| 05:15.03 | Elysa | I figure all the Pandaria ones will have epic pets too |
| 05:16.07 | Eraclito | oh, i have the feeling i shouldn't use the pet i like, but i should study pets and tactics |
| 05:16.14 | Eraclito | ...but i still use the pets i like |
| 05:18.19 | Eraclito | (i'm using Frosty, the Azure Whelpling and the Kirin Tor Familiar :P) |
| 05:20.26 | Paaarn | I just use lil KT |
| 05:20.32 | Paaarn | he doesn't need other pets |
| 05:21.02 | Eraclito | i never bought any real-money pet |
| 05:21.25 | Eraclito | now... i'm kinda tempted |
| 05:22.18 | Paaarn | you should always give in to your temptationsw |
| 05:23.46 | Paaarn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.39 | Eraclito | (and right now i want so much fly in the tbc starting zones) |
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| 05:30.58 | Eraclito | anyway, blizz was right again. pet battles are awesome |
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| 05:38.36 | Paaarn | they jave a keen understanding that MMOs need to grow laterally as well as vertically now |
| 05:38.41 | Paaarn | have |
| 05:41.00 | Elysa | :) |
| 05:41.05 | Elysa | Pet battles are awesome |
| 05:41.08 | Elysa | Mainly because I love pets |
| 05:41.18 | Eraclito | anyway i don't get why we can't trade battle-tamed pets |
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| 06:10.42 | Elysa | Nice, the final pet battle master in Pandaria has legendary pets |
| 06:10.47 | Elysa | I want me some of those |
| 06:11.30 | tate | ey, Elysa ! |
| 06:11.35 | tate | what's ur local time |
| 06:11.41 | tate | or anyone |
| 06:12.05 | tate | i wanna try to live by some random timezone lol |
| 06:12.13 | jamphat | oy, 3500+ mails to retrieve |
| 06:12.37 | jamphat | its 2:12 am here |
| 06:12.49 | tate | "here" |
| 06:13.01 | tate | awh oke |
| 06:13.15 | tate | utc-x? |
| 06:13.29 | tate | eastern? |
| 06:13.35 | jamphat | EST yea |
| 06:13.44 | jamphat | dc :) |
| 06:14.13 | tate | so 02:14 it is |
| 06:14.20 | tate | gotta get in bed soon i guess |
| 06:14.26 | Elysa | It's 2:12 AM here as well |
| 06:14.28 | Elysa | 2:14 now |
| 06:14.42 | tate | so it's here! |
| 06:14.45 | Elysa | I am an official Tamer now! |
| 06:14.47 | Elysa | flexes |
| 06:16.55 | tate | ugh it's getting late |
| 06:18.50 | jamphat | no time to be a tamer, gotta level! |
| 06:19.08 | jamphat | to time to level, gotta undercut! |
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| 06:25.07 | Eraclito | different-color-same-species pets are driving me mad |
| 06:25.13 | Darkskynet | I just logged in and i was the only soul in IF |
| 06:25.21 | Darkskynet | such an empty server |
| 06:25.36 | Eraclito | i know i'll not have space for two tree spiders, but one is green and one brown, and... |
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| 06:30.34 | Elysa | It needs to rain on Jaguero Isle |
| 06:30.39 | Elysa | so I can get the Baby Ape |
| 06:32.34 | Eraclito | oh well i'm in strangle, let's check |
| 06:32.55 | Eraclito | anyway this "early at morning" "late night" "needs rain" will drive me mad |
| 06:34.21 | Elysa | I'm hovering over there on my server at the moment |
| 06:34.29 | Elysa | who knows what cross-realm zone I'm in, though |
| 06:35.12 | Eraclito | luckly i'm the only existing italian pve realm |
| 06:35.16 | Eraclito | so no crossrealm for me |
| 06:35.20 | Elysa | Hehe |
| 06:35.40 | Eraclito | i mean, i tried it, it's cool... but i don't like overcrowded zones |
| 06:35.57 | Eraclito | i'm the kind of player who farmed the uldum statuette, time lost and aeonaxx |
| 06:36.17 | Elysa | I still haven't managed to get that camel |
| 06:36.23 | Elysa | I've gotten dud statues so many times |
| 06:37.10 | Elysa | Funny story about Time Lost |
| 06:37.20 | Elysa | One of my guildmates was camping that |
| 06:37.33 | Elysa | he had access to about five other accounts and had them camped around Storm Peaks, all with npcscan on |
| 06:38.03 | Elysa | and we were in the middle of a Yogg 0-light attempt when he said on vent, "Sorry, something came up, I have to go" |
| 06:38.06 | Elysa | and hearthed out of the zone |
| 06:38.09 | Elysa | I knew exactly what was happening |
| 06:38.22 | Elysa | but half the raid thought something tragic had happened |
| 06:38.34 | Elysa | nope, one of his accounts had had npcscan trigger the Time Lost |
| 06:39.44 | Elysa | We still ended up getting server first on that, so it's okay |
| 06:39.51 | Elysa | :D |
| 06:39.57 | Elysa | And he got his drake! |
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| 06:52.45 | jamphat | awesome |
| 06:52.54 | jamphat | i used to keep an account logged in there |
| 06:53.12 | jamphat | but now i camp my accounts on the ah instead undercutting |
| 06:53.41 | jamphat | takes dedication to post a quarter million auctions in the last 2 months :-P |
| 07:00.09 | Eraclito | oh, a green jaguero monkey... well better than nothing i guess |
| 07:06.54 | Eraclito | mh... if i "give up" on a pet battle, there're any malus? like stats "surrended X pet battles" or losing exp |
| 07:07.05 | Eraclito | because i'm sick of fighting low level grey pets |
| 07:07.20 | stuf | nope |
| 07:07.28 | Elysa | I forfeit battles all the time |
| 07:07.32 | stuf | wasn't it so that in pet battles, only wins are counted |
| 07:07.55 | Eraclito | yay |
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| 07:11.42 | Eraclito | i'm sad for my alts |
| 07:11.50 | Eraclito | i think they'll not reach 90 for a loong time |
| 07:23.58 | jamphat | fucking bots |
| 07:24.09 | jamphat | 7-8 out of 10 on my team just now were bots |
| 07:24.26 | jamphat | i think it was 8, but one just had a slower connection |
| 07:24.38 | jamphat | so not fun |
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| 07:55.15 | Already | damn dices. First the headless horseman drops a DPS caster ring and after that the healer caster ring and both times i'm below 10. ./ |
| 07:56.49 | hylje_ | sacrifice a goat to the rng |
| 07:59.15 | Already | I already killed my fatty goats for today. :/ |
| 08:01.02 | hylje_ | oh |
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| 08:06.08 | Duke | May Elune shine upon you! |
| 08:06.41 | hylje_ | *-* |
| 08:06.42 | Already | Let's hope so. |
| 08:06.48 | Duke | ;) |
| 08:08.35 | Already | oh they upgraded hallows end |
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| 08:15.56 | Duke | what's your oppinion about MoP so far m8s? |
| 08:25.14 | Already | Too bad that most people don't seem to know that you can throw those water buckets to onanother. |
| 08:25.41 | Already | I think it's rather good Duke. Though there are some things that bother me a bit. But overall it's good. |
| 08:27.01 | Duke | Already: I didn't found the time to start it yet :/ |
| 08:32.16 | Already | Hmmm i don't know if i should be glad that we can buy all those Hollow's End Masks now. |
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| 12:42.22 | JunkHead- | Well, not quite 8am, and I got most of my dailies done. All except Klaxxi. |
| 12:42.29 | JunkHead- | Which those aren't too bad. |
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| 13:21.45 | eidyia | good morning all! |
| 13:23.50 | JunkHead- | morning |
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| 13:28.09 | eidyia | hey JunkHead |
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| 13:36.08 | JunkHead- | howdy |
| 13:36.34 | JunkHead- | did all of my dailies. now doing a few quests in dread watses that just appeared. |
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| 13:36.44 | JunkHead- | then i might work on townlong steppes a bit more. |
| 13:39.43 | eidyia | i really need to finish grinding out the quests in the areas i haven't completed |
| 13:44.40 | JunkHead- | yeah townlong is the only one i have left |
| 13:45.37 | eidyia | just have karasong and dread |
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| 14:22.07 | JunkHead- | damn... more quests keep popping up. |
| 14:22.49 | Amarande | heh. this newegg feedback on the chair that's on sale today talks about how it's "weird" that the back and seat of a desk chair are attached together via the arms |
| 14:23.09 | Amarande | my experience is that it's usually hard to find a chair that *isn't* designed that way, nowadays :S |
| 14:23.29 | Amarande | much to my annoyance, really, in the long run. |
| 14:24.24 | stuf | yeah, i'd like a good office chair without armrests |
| 14:24.32 | stuf | although in good ones you can usually remove them |
| 14:24.47 | Amarande | oh, I'd like armrests, but I'd like ones that are actually *armrests* instead of China-revenue-traps like those kind are |
| 14:25.01 | Amarande | see, the trouble with that kind of architecture is ... you get armrests that make it look like a comfy chair |
| 14:25.31 | Amarande | except it's not really a comfy chair, because the arms are no longer there so much for you as as a structural element of the chair that, if you lean on the arms a lot, will go out that much faster than cheap stuff from China already does |
| 14:25.58 | Amarande | they're not there for you to lean on anymore, they're there for the back to stay attached |
| 14:26.12 | Amarande | which ... is quite often how my chairs die :| |
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| 14:26.31 | stuf | oh :f |
| 14:26.39 | Amarande | atm, I'm sitting on more of a stool than anything else, the bolt snapped in the arm on this chair, so I didn't have much choice but to take off the arms and back and just sit on the seat |
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| 14:28.41 | stuf | which reminds me |
| 14:28.48 | stuf | i'd want one of those saddle chairs |
| 14:29.24 | Stormscape | Thought it was raining outside... realised what I thought was the sound of heavy rain was actually thousands of crows. |
| 14:43.12 | eidyia|work | i need a new mouse - any suggestions? |
| 14:46.01 | JunkHead- | Logitech mx518 |
| 14:46.27 | stuf | I'm probably going to ruin other people with the MX518 but |
| 14:46.30 | stuf | the mouse whines |
| 14:46.56 | stuf | put it to your ear and you'll hear this silent "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" sound |
| 14:46.57 | WardH | currently for gaming, I use a dirtcheap Microsoft wired mouse |
| 14:47.12 | WardH | broke 2 logitech mice during the last year |
| 14:47.14 | eidyia|work | it whines? |
| 14:47.17 | stuf | yeah |
| 14:47.19 | eidyia|work | i'm sick of the stupid cord on mine |
| 14:47.33 | eidyia|work | cord gets caught or stuck which jerks it around |
| 14:48.20 | eidyia|work | so - the mx518 |
| 14:48.36 | stuf | but mx518 is awesome |
| 14:48.48 | eidyia|work | do you key bind through the key bind menu? like the mouse buttons show up on that page? or do you put the actions on the action bar and then bind to the action bar? |
| 14:53.04 | JunkHead- | only button i bound to anything was a thumb button |
| 14:53.09 | JunkHead- | it's my auto run button in wow. |
| 14:53.20 | JunkHead- | anythign else is still default |
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| 14:54.32 | JunkHead- | finally done with dread wastes |
| 14:54.42 | JunkHead- | damn. more quests just kept popping up. |
| 14:54.42 | eidyia|work | i use like a / key on my number pad for run |
| 14:54.47 | eidyia|work | yah - damn quests never stop |
| 14:54.57 | eidyia|work | and if you don't do them all, who knows what you're missing for dailies |
| 14:54.58 | JunkHead- | yeah but autorun on your thumb button is awesome. |
| 14:55.12 | JunkHead- | its so much ncier than a button on your keyboard |
| 14:55.30 | eidyia|work | i tend to fly more then i run though |
| 14:55.45 | JunkHead- | well, the autorun button makes you fly too |
| 14:56.13 | eidyia|work | true |
| 14:56.18 | JunkHead- | yep. |
| 14:56.31 | eidyia|work | ToS Wise - i'm guessing it's not allowed to have an add-on that flys for me? |
| 14:56.31 | JunkHead- | if you're on the ground, and wanna fly, just find a ramp or ledge |
| 14:56.50 | eidyia|work | i give it coords and say - take me there? |
| 14:56.53 | JunkHead- | probably not. |
| 14:57.06 | eidyia|work | the poor-man's flight path is what i'm thinking |
| 14:57.36 | eidyia|work | guess really anything that moves for you isn't allowed |
| 14:57.53 | eidyia|work | like - you can do something to say, hit "run," but not something that is like, turn left. go 20 paces, to right... |
| 14:58.54 | JunkHead- | yeah thatd probably be bad. |
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| 14:59.16 | eidyia|work | one of these days i'll post that on the blizz forums and see |
| 14:59.55 | JunkHead- | ah townlong steppes.... how much you suck. |
| 15:00.21 | JunkHead- | guild is 93% to lvl 11 though. so every bit of questing helps. |
| 15:00.22 | eidyia|work | lol |
| 15:00.26 | eidyia|work | yah |
| 15:00.31 | eidyia|work | you running your own guild? |
| 15:00.38 | JunkHead- | yeah |
| 15:00.42 | eidyia|work | i've been tempted to start my own with all my alts so i can reap the rewards |
| 15:00.51 | JunkHead- | do it. do it if you can. |
| 15:01.12 | JunkHead- | it's mainly me and a friend, but her brothers play a little lately too. |
| 15:01.18 | eidyia|work | yah - not sure |
| 15:01.24 | eidyia|work | i like the rewards currently receieved... |
| 15:01.38 | eidyia|work | and all the raiding rewards, as i don't raid much |
| 15:01.49 | JunkHead- | yeah. they help. |
| 15:02.16 | JunkHead- | we're really working toward lvl 11, and gettign all professions to 600 so we can unlock heirloom leggings |
| 15:03.47 | eidyia|work | yah |
| 15:03.52 | eidyia|work | i'd love that |
| 15:03.55 | eidyia|work | and free repairs :) |
| 15:04.05 | eidyia|work | but my guild got the leggings in like a day, so i'd miss that |
| 15:07.46 | eidyia|work | okay - gl questing JunkHead - time to get some stuff done at work |
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| 16:44.27 | kullervo | do absorbed hits count as unmitigated damage? |
| 16:52.03 | Freyja | [The Wowhead Blog] News Round Up: 5.1 PTR Patch Notes, Blizzard Celebrates MoP's Launch - http://www.wowhead.com/news=207480/news-round-up-5-1-ptr-patch-notes-blizzard-celebrates-mops-launch |
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| 19:16.07 | JunkHead- | man... |
| 19:16.13 | JunkHead- | 3 1/2 hours to go.:( |
| 19:16.16 | JunkHead- | i wanna go home. |
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| 19:47.23 | raspy2 | weeee |
| 19:47.26 | fewyn | http://www.theverge.com/gaming/2012/10/18/3521206/star-citizen-makes-the-jump-to-kickstarter-as-it-crosses-halfway-mark |
| 19:47.55 | raspy2 | happy right now hit 470 ilvl need moar gear |
| 19:52.13 | Stormscape | I'm at like, 474 on my priest |
| 19:52.15 | Stormscape | I think maybe 475 |
| 19:52.36 | fewyn | 462! |
| 19:52.54 | raspy2 | and no pvp gear either |
| 20:00.38 | Already | I'm still at heroic gear level. :S Not a single item dropped yet. |
| 20:00.51 | fewyn | i've used like 7 bonus rolls |
| 20:00.55 | fewyn | NADA |
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| 20:08.54 | Mewtwo | i used 8 bonus rolls this week. |
| 20:08.56 | Mewtwo | nothing. |
| 20:08.58 | Mewtwo | but |
| 20:09.08 | Mewtwo | i got lucky last week and got two things off galleon. |
| 20:11.18 | Already | I still think being able to convert coins to scrolls just once a week is a ... idea. |
| 20:14.49 | WardH | it´s to prevent people feeling they need to do every single daily every single day, just to max their loot chances |
| 20:16.29 | Amarande | well, hey, they could go to a hybrid system, but you'd probably hate it |
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| 20:16.52 | Amarande | you could have everyone, regular or bonus roll, be guaranteed loot, but have the loot rolled off the boss's ENTIRE loot table rather than just that which is appropriate for (class) :) |
| 20:17.06 | Amarande | there you go, you get something all the time ... and most of the time it'll be a BoP item you can't even use :P |
| 20:17.19 | Amarande | (Enchanters would probably be rubbing their palms in glee, though heh) |
| 20:18.27 | Amarande | Which reminds me, has there been indeed the expected dip in purple crystals in MoP compared to previous expansions? |
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| 20:19.06 | Amarande | due to the one-two of 1) many more epics dropping are actually ones players use rather than shard, and 2) I'm guessing that this kind of loot can't be DE'd unless you are personally an enchanter, unlike, say, 5-man loot where you have the DE option? |
| 20:20.05 | Amarande | whereas BITD, tons of useless epics used to drop (like us and our mail armour drops when there were no hunters or shamans even in the raid in ICC :P), and those epics were of course given to enchanters to DE |
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| 20:26.34 | Mewtwo | all epics i have looted and/or acquired, have been put to use.... ... im guessing next weeks lfr may give me something that i could de, ... which might get me some of those blood spirits that i could put up on ah. ... *grins* |
| 20:32.28 | TecnoBrat | Amarande: also, near the start of an expansion .. MUCH less epics are de'd, thats normal |
| 20:32.50 | TecnoBrat | because .. its more than likely needed by someone |
| 20:37.32 | JunkHead- | im still at 460. |
| 20:37.41 | JunkHead- | have not attempted a raid yet |
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| 21:25.00 | Amarande | hrm. is there anything non-crafter characters can do with Spirits of Harmony, or is MoP an indication that every character ought to be given a crafting profession? |
| 21:25.09 | Dyno | Hello, is there a channel op available to talk too? @ alayton fewyn and TecnoBrat. |
| 21:28.04 | Amarande | (mind you, with the importance of living steel, I've been thinking of making every further alt, once I've got all profs, an alchemist, heh) |
| 21:29.45 | fewyn | there we go, http://uplol.fewyn.net/World_of_Warcraft_2012-10-18_17-28-46.png my bars are now setup for subtelty |
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| 21:38.14 | Amarande | fewyn: is that Windows 8? |
| 21:38.25 | Amarande | I see your bars are set up totally different from mine, too. :) |
| 21:38.37 | WardH | Amarande, you can buy materials with spirits of harmony |
| 21:38.51 | WardH | stuff like Golden lotus |
| 21:38.58 | WardH | so basically you can get more stuff to sell :p |
| 21:39.06 | Amarande | Also, your music tastes are good. :D |
| 21:39.12 | Already | I've recently talked to a friend of mine and he said he was thinking about dropping engingeering for alchemy as it seems like there are buckets of gold to be made. ... We both agreed that Inscription and Egineering should become secondary professions. :X |
| 21:39.37 | Amarande | BTW, if you ever think "Break Those Bones Whose Sinews Gave In Motion" is a long song title, I can name at least a couple that are even longer. :) |
| 21:40.07 | WardH | Already, I made tons from my scribe |
| 21:40.17 | WardH | I sold 40k gold worth in darkmoon cards over the last few weeks |
| 21:40.24 | Amarande | http://www.lunasanguine.com/gallery3/index.php/Screenshots/World-of-Warcraft/WoWScrnShot_100412_205028 <--- my bars |
| 21:40.27 | WardH | and I only had to spend a few K on herbs to mill for em |
| 21:40.54 | Amarande | is living steel valuable enough to make it worth dedicating every otherwise un-professioned alt to alchemy, btw? |
| 21:41.14 | Amarande | or is it still more profitable to have exactly one character per crafting profession, with their matching gathering profs, and then have the other alts all be dual gathering? |
| 21:41.23 | Already | I've hardly been able to sell a single shoulder enchant and i don't have the money to play with the big guys and darkmoon cards. |
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| 21:41.42 | fewyn | i use windows 8 yes Amarande |
| 21:41.47 | JunkHead- | Living Steel makes me sad. |
| 21:41.54 | fewyn | i love windows 8 |
| 21:42.00 | Amarande | fewyn, that reminds me |
| 21:42.00 | Already | And I'm still looking for a way to spend all those darn non-rare inks. |
| 21:42.10 | Amarande | there's one thing I've been concerned about in re: 8 |
| 21:42.16 | fewyn | what about it? |
| 21:42.32 | Amarande | if you buy the upgrade, is there any way to, if you need to reinstall Windows in the future, install 8 directly or do you have to install and activate 7 first every time? |
| 21:42.46 | fewyn | you can download the iso |
| 21:42.49 | fewyn | but! |
| 21:42.56 | Amarande | I'm especially concerned about it because I'm looking at getting a Blu-Ray drive at some point in the future |
| 21:42.56 | fewyn | there's a built in feature |
| 21:43.02 | fewyn | that let's you restore to default |
| 21:43.07 | fewyn | wipe everything that isn't windows |
| 21:43.12 | Amarande | and some of them apparently aren't recognised by the W7 install disc, according to newegg comments |
| 21:43.35 | Amarande | which makes me wonder if it's safe to buy an upgrade edition of 8 or if I'd have to buy full retail just to be sure to be able to reinstall Windows if need be |
| 21:43.59 | Already | Just install from USB then. If you computer isn't like 6-8 years old you should be able to boot from a usb device and install windows form it. |
| 21:44.02 | fewyn | http://uplol.fewyn.net/PC_settings_2012-10-18_17-43-55.png |
| 21:44.13 | fewyn | Amarande ^ |
| 21:46.29 | Amarande | ah |
| 21:46.41 | Amarande | what are considered "factory settings" for a self-built PC, btw, or is that option only given for store-bought computers? |
| 21:47.17 | Already | I'd guess it's the state when you installed windows. |
| 21:48.17 | fewyn | what Already said |
| 21:48.42 | fewyn | it basically reformats to fresh |
| 21:48.52 | fewyn | i tested it once |
| 21:49.02 | JunkHead- | ok so, i read a thread on the wow forums yesterday. in reference to people complaining about the charms of good fortune. |
| 21:49.07 | Amarande | ah, so basically what startup repair did to me that one time on 7 :P |
| 21:49.24 | JunkHead- | and how they stack and take up space, but the greater charms (or whatever) are a currency. |
| 21:49.30 | Amarande | once I booted my 7 machine with my phone plugged into USB (a very bad idea with this mobo and phone, apparently) |
| 21:49.35 | fewyn | i hate the lesser charms |
| 21:49.53 | Amarande | and it decided (due to the power draw issue on the phone causing it to be unable to verify the system files properly, apparently) that ntoskrnl.exe was broken |
| 21:49.54 | fewyn | i've got like 5 billion of them |
| 21:50.05 | JunkHead- | someone had the idea, of making the lesser charms perform the same function but in 5 mans. |
| 21:50.08 | Amarande | ... and it proceeded to slingshot me backwards in time to when I'd just installed Windows and hadn't installed ANY programs |
| 21:50.16 | fewyn | that would be nice JunkHead- |
| 21:50.18 | JunkHead- | To at least give them a use |
| 21:50.21 | JunkHead- | And yes. I agree |
| 21:50.29 | JunkHead- | make them "currency" also. |
| 21:51.09 | JunkHead- | would still be a greatidea though. |
| 21:51.18 | JunkHead- | but i'd love to use them in 5 man heroics. |
| 21:51.37 | JunkHead- | but i guess thatd require 5 mans to use the sameloot system as lfr |
| 21:52.07 | Already | I don't see any use for them in 5 Man |
| 21:54.23 | fewyn | things don't drop for me in 5 mans |
| 21:54.27 | JunkHead- | I'd love it. |
| 21:54.41 | Already | With all the ink i collected from level 85 to 90 i got a total of 23 rare ink (2 Darkmoon cards) and 171 (some more as i already used some of it) which means i'll be able to make scroll of wisdome for the next 60 Days. |
| 21:54.42 | JunkHead- | because as of now, they serve 0 purpose other than "turn in 90 for 3 greaters" |
| 21:55.09 | fewyn | why won't the HH drop my ring |
| 21:55.35 | Already | Except for Enchanter which could get some more loot to DE I don't see any reason why you'd use the lesser charms in 5man |
| 21:55.41 | JunkHead- | why doesnt the hh have a tanking ring for my warrior? |
| 21:55.47 | JunkHead- | :( |
| 21:56.01 | fewyn | because you're a smelly <insert tanking class here> |
| 21:56.12 | JunkHead- | WARRIOR |
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| 21:56.18 | JunkHead- | ! |
| 21:56.43 | JunkHead- | And I'm only smelly because I am soaked in the blood of a thousand... whatever the hell shit i was killing doing my dailies... |
| 21:57.27 | Already | No because you stepped into a stinky bomb. |
| 21:57.30 | fewyn | i keep seeing the str ring |
| 21:57.32 | fewyn | last 5 times |
| 21:57.40 | JunkHead- | i havent done it yet. |
| 21:57.44 | JunkHead- | I want the helm. |
| 21:57.49 | JunkHead- | for the first time ever. |
| 21:57.56 | fewyn | i already have the mount |
| 21:57.57 | JunkHead- | I will quickly transmog it if i win it. |
| 21:57.59 | fewyn | i don't want anything else |
| 21:58.23 | JunkHead- | i want whatever i can get. |
| 21:59.05 | JunkHead- | i never got the dps trinket from direbrew |
| 21:59.09 | JunkHead- | damn thing wouldnt drop |
| 21:59.21 | fewyn | i got mine like first run i think |
| 21:59.21 | JunkHead- | i did get the ram though. |
| 21:59.25 | JunkHead- | which i already had.:\ |
| 21:59.28 | fewyn | or real quickly |
| 21:59.43 | JunkHead- | i got the dodge trinket and 1 stam trinket |
| 22:00.03 | Amarande | you're smelly because you've been digging in felhound poo, of course :D |
| 22:00.22 | Amarande | Already: and as for those non-rare inks |
| 22:00.29 | Amarande | those, you use to make glyphs for new alts/guildies :) |
| 22:01.13 | Amarande | you know what I find is odd, speaking of mog |
| 22:01.35 | Amarande | I have a number of characters whose names would imply a certain colour |
| 22:01.45 | Amarande | ... and this virtually never ends up being the colour I start planning to use mog gear in |
| 22:03.57 | Stormscape | I don't need gear from Headless Horseman cause I got the Season 12 ring from Sha of Anger. Shame, really. I wanted something to do besides level my warlock and complain about dailies |
| 22:04.31 | Amarande | Like ... Kiruna. Green Ajah Aes Sedai from Wheel of Time. What colour do I end up making my mog set? Gree... nope, that would be too obvious. Nope, she ended up with a red mog set. :) |
| 22:06.12 | Stormscape | Unlike Cataclysm, Mists gear actually looks good so I'm not doing any transmorgification sets |
| 22:06.49 | JunkHead- | i neednew weapons.:( |
| 22:07.21 | JunkHead- | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Sickman/advanced <-- i like how my armor looks. |
| 22:07.25 | JunkHead- | my weapons just suck.:( |
| 22:08.12 | Already | Darkmoon Card Standard Dev. 7095g 1s 78c |
| 22:11.51 | Amarande | Personally, I took to mog like a moth to a light bulb, as it strongly resembles cosmetic gear from LOTRO |
| 22:12.04 | Amarande | and is actually a little bit better in a way, since you couldn't cosmetic weapons or shields at all in LOTRO |
| 22:12.10 | Stormscape | I think my gear looks good enough that I don't need to change it |
| 22:12.10 | Stormscape | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/Vordea/advanced |
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| 22:13.20 | fewyn | i don't believe the agi ring exists |
| 22:15.21 | Jammer | haven't also seen agi ring drop :o |
| 22:19.52 | Already | To bad i can't mog my wand into a fist weapon |
| 22:21.22 | fewyn | sigh it drops and there's a monk and hunter in the group |
| 22:23.14 | fewyn | i didn't win, the monk did sigh |
| 22:25.28 | Already | Hmmm are there any useful addons that help with using the AH from time to time (help to figure out what price to set for auctions)? |
| 22:28.35 | fewyn | TSM/Auctioneer |
| 22:28.39 | fewyn | either or |
| 22:28.41 | fewyn | i use both |
| 22:28.51 | fewyn | TSM has an auto auctiondb updater tool tho |
| 22:28.56 | fewyn | so i no longer have to scan |
| 22:30.42 | Already | Because TSM does the scan or does it use the addon communication channel? |
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| 22:33.38 | Stormscape | I'm a terrible warlock, I'm wearing spirit gear. |
| 22:35.14 | fewyn | fuck you HH |
| 22:35.16 | fewyn | peace out |
| 22:35.18 | fewyn | i'm done! |
| 22:35.20 | fewyn | got my ring |
| 22:43.45 | g0urra | I want my helmet! |
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| 22:47.27 | Already | I'm off to bed. Gn8 everyone. |
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| 22:56.53 | fewyn | destro or affliction? |
| 22:57.07 | fewyn | not liking demo |
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| 23:17.12 | Stormscape | Mists has totally spoiled with me with quest rewards that I can always use |
| 23:17.21 | Stormscape | I get so sad with pre-85 quests that give me random ass shit |
| 23:19.16 | Mr_Rabies | on the other hand, i didn't replace a single piece of gear until 89 |
| 23:19.21 | Mr_Rabies | so there wasn't much of a difference for me |
| 23:20.03 | JunkHead | hey i have a silly question. |
| 23:20.37 | JunkHead | previously, for pve, pvp gear lacked in secondary stats due to resilience |
| 23:20.53 | JunkHead | but in MoP, it seems to be just as good as pve, plus pvp stats. |
| 23:20.59 | JunkHead | am i wrong in this? |
| 23:21.06 | Stormscape | Junk it's because PvP stats don't cost iLevel budget anymore |
| 23:21.07 | JunkHead | like, is there a huge difference? |
| 23:21.10 | JunkHead | ok. |
| 23:21.21 | Stormscape | so a 483 PvP epic is just as good as a 483 PvE epic |
| 23:21.24 | JunkHead | so going to a heroic (as dps) in full pvp gear is fine? |
| 23:21.29 | Stormscape | Yes |
| 23:21.33 | JunkHead | ok good. |
| 23:21.36 | JunkHead | i thought so. |
| 23:21.39 | JunkHead | just wanted to check. |
| 23:21.42 | Stormscape | People will probably still get buttmad, but fuck em |
| 23:22.05 | JunkHead | well, i just upgraded a green neck and 2 440 or less blues for 300g total. |
| 23:22.10 | JunkHead | so.... don't care.:P |
| 23:23.01 | Amarande | Storm: you mean like at low level, you try to get something like an ellie shaman started and end up having to wear cloth half the time because the leather awards are agi? |
| 23:23.48 | Amarande | though thankfully, it's practically impossible to die under normal questing circumstances as a low-level (late teens atm) elemental shaman unless you wait till too late to cast Healing Surge |
| 23:24.08 | Amarande | heh. casters have come a long way |
| 23:24.22 | Amarande | I remember on my first character, a caster, shaking fists at the screen whenever I encountered silithids in particular |
| 23:24.33 | Amarande | because the damn swarmer broods with 1hp would be your DOOMY DOOM OF DOOM |
| 23:25.49 | Stormscape | by caster I assume you don't mean mage, because a mage can kill viritually unlimited size packs of low HP mobs |
| 23:27.45 | Amarande | Storm: yeah, it was a long while before I started my first serious mage |
| 23:27.56 | Amarande | but, I'm mostly thinking of back in the day when there wasn't a cap on spell pushback |
| 23:28.13 | Amarande | and next thing you ran into a single one of those damned swarmers, and %#&$*(@#&*(@&*(#% I CAN'T EVEN GET ONE %#$*(@#&*(&*(%# CAST OFF |
| 23:28.25 | Stormscape | well with a large swarm like that my first thought as a mage would be |
| 23:28.28 | Stormscape | frost nova |
| 23:28.30 | Stormscape | or cone of cold |
| 23:28.45 | Amarande | heh, my first was a priest |
| 23:30.04 | Amarande | this was also back in the day when it really sucked to be certain levels, because you were about to get your next spell rank of something important on the next level, but of course the mobs weren't much easier on this level |
| 23:30.12 | tate | hmh |
| 23:30.22 | tate | i'm getting used to my new time zone |
| 23:30.33 | Amarande | scaling spells = good, pushback caps = good, int giving spellpower to casters like the other primary stats do to physical classes = good |
| 23:30.39 | Amarande | we didn't get any of those back in the bad old days, heh |
| 23:30.46 | tate | decided to live by utc-4, so far so good |
| 23:32.06 | Amarande | then I tried a pally and found the swarmers to be "what, me worry?" |
| 23:32.20 | Amarande | since, yay retribution aura, heh |
| 23:32.50 | Amarande | or even just get a nagelring from BRD |
| 23:33.24 | Amarande | nobody really cared much about BRD loot then, since you were about to replace it with outland loot, but the tiny little bit of "attacker takes damage" was a godsend if you (like I did) liked questing southern Kalimdor |
| 23:34.13 | Amarande | btw, if a 483 PvP epic is as good as a 483 PvE epic ... |
| 23:34.30 | Primar | Priests dealing with swarms was basically PW:S, PsyScream, run like fuck |
| 23:34.32 | Amarande | does this mean we're going to start seeing certain classes in hardcore raiding guilds being pretty much required to become PvP greats in order to hit the top ranks at PvE? |
| 23:34.41 | Primar | or spam r1 SW:P if they had fuck all health |
| 23:34.42 | JunkHead | no. |
| 23:34.47 | Stormscape | Amarande, not even close |
| 23:34.51 | Stormscape | PvP gear is itemised for PvE |
| 23:34.53 | Stormscape | erm |
| 23:34.54 | Stormscape | PvP |
| 23:35.01 | JunkHead | right |
| 23:35.03 | Stormscape | the itemisation is awful for top end raiding |
| 23:35.13 | JunkHead | for heroic 5 mans, pvp gear is great |
| 23:35.17 | Stormscape | mastery and haste everywhere |
| 23:35.19 | JunkHead | just reforge. |
| 23:35.19 | Stormscape | no crit |
| 23:35.23 | JunkHead | and deal with it |
| 23:35.30 | Stormscape | Also, extremely lacking in hit |
| 23:37.18 | Amarande | yeah, that's why I said "certain classes" |
| 23:37.36 | Amarande | mastery and haste sounds like arcane mages might be told to spend some time in the arena, for instance |
| 23:37.54 | JunkHead | also, raid guilds wont require pvp really. |
| 23:37.59 | Amarande | those two are bread-and-butter stats for that kind of spec |
| 23:38.03 | JunkHead | because if they're good at raiding, theres no need to pvp |
| 23:38.13 | Amarande | yeah, that's true. |
| 23:38.15 | JunkHead | sure some peopel could pvp in their spare time pick up a piece here and there. |
| 23:38.17 | JunkHead | wont hurt. |
| 23:38.19 | Amarande | perhaps the main thing will be when tiers are new |
| 23:38.28 | JunkHead | as long as the stats are fine. as Stormscape said |
| 23:38.41 | Amarande | and guilds with PvE/PvP combo players get an edge up because the PvP players can bring in the arena weapons with higher DPS and spellpower |
| 23:38.42 | Stormscape | Trouble is, the stats are subpar for raiding for the most part |
| 23:38.53 | Amarande | which will help them meet the enrage timers in the first few weeks better than other guilds, no? |
| 23:39.12 | Stormscape | if you need a weapon to down a boss, it isn't the weapon you need. |
| 23:39.35 | Amarande | especially since you can buy PvP weapons with currencies, but except for cata and earlier wands, pretty sure you still can't buy any PvE weapons with currency |
| 23:39.38 | JunkHead | Stormscape for the most part sure, but hell, you got a rogue in guild with shitty luck and a blue weapon? fuck it. if he likes to pvp, go for it. epic weapon inc. |
| 23:40.00 | Amarande | Storm: yeah, that's why I was mostly thinking about the DPS stats on higher ilvl weapons |
| 23:40.00 | JunkHead | (just for example) |
| 23:40.11 | Amarande | not sure how tight the enrage timers in MoP are, though |
| 23:40.22 | Amarande | if one ever sees something like Brutallus, though ... |
| 23:41.05 | Stormscape | Amarande, it sounds like a good idea on paper, but this is a typical PvP weapon: http://www.wowhead.com/item=85109 |
| 23:41.17 | Stormscape | poorly itemised for anything, PvE or PvP |
| 23:41.36 | Stormscape | and significantly lower iLevel than anything else |
| 23:41.47 | JunkHead | i ahve 2 green weapons.:( |
| 23:41.49 | JunkHead | my luck sucks |
| 23:42.08 | Stormscape | Junk: Arena of Annihiliation |
| 23:42.12 | Stormscape | takes 10 minutes, free 450 blue |
| 23:42.13 | JunkHead | did it. |
| 23:42.16 | JunkHead | got the tanking weapon |
| 23:42.20 | Stormscape | oh |
| 23:42.32 | Amarande | hm. |
| 23:42.38 | Amarande | no more rating requirement or am I missing something? |
| 23:42.38 | JunkHead | since i started heroics, i havent seen a blue 2h weapon except staves |
| 23:42.42 | JunkHead | period. |
| 23:42.53 | JunkHead | none that ive seen and lost the roll on. |
| 23:42.55 | JunkHead | just none. |
| 23:42.56 | Stormscape | Amarande, there's a very steep rating requirement |
| 23:43.00 | Stormscape | wowhead doesn't show it |
| 23:43.09 | Stormscape | I think it's 2400 |
| 23:43.18 | Stormscape | + you need to have earned 16k points in the season to buy it |
| 23:43.29 | Amarande | wow, 2400, so basically you need to be a glad title contender to buy it |
| 23:43.46 | Stormscape | Exactly, people aren't going to be simply buying PvP weapons |
| 23:43.50 | Stormscape | even if they can, it's only 490 |
| 23:43.51 | Amarande | which reminds me, once again, and note I've maintained this since S3 |
| 23:44.00 | Stormscape | compared to 483 from HoF and TOES LFR |
| 23:44.11 | Amarande | the whole rating requirement thing seems to me to be extremely dumb. I'm not sure why they stick so pigheadedly to it. |
| 23:44.21 | Amarande | I mean, consider a team getting started in pvp later on in an expansion |
| 23:44.42 | Amarande | to get the better gear, they have to beat people with better gear, in a game that heavily favours the geared, WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO GET THE GEAR THEMSELVES |
| 23:44.52 | Amarande | it basically makes first-season advantage permanent, no? |
| 23:45.02 | Stormscape | I don't really give a shit about PvP |
| 23:45.11 | Amarande | the first teams to hit the ultra high ratings get the ultra high gear to go with it and then they can just wipe the floor with everyone? |
| 23:45.36 | Amarande | meanwhile, fewer and fewer people can actually get to the ratings for the later season gear - because they have to beat people with that rating, who've gotten that gear, in order to get the rating |
| 23:45.47 | Amarande | as a long-time chess player, I am quite familiar with how ELO works, sadly :( |
| 23:46.14 | Amarande | (in fact, the ratings system used for WoW PvP was, originally, invented to be used with chess) |
| 23:46.38 | Amarande | but, to use chess as a comparison |
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| 23:46.48 | Amarande | the whole idea of ratings-based gear is like ... well ... if we used chess as a comparison |
| 23:47.04 | Amarande | it's like saying "sorry, you don't have a grandmaster rating yet, therefore, you don't get to use a queen" |
| 23:47.20 | Amarande | "sorry, you're just a beginner, you don't get to have a queen or rooks till you reach a rating of 1800 in your local tournaments" |
| 23:47.33 | Amarande | yeaaaaaah, like that would work well :) |
| 23:48.15 | Stormscape | or you can just run LFR and get 483 epics from Heart of Fear and TOES. |
| 23:48.51 | Amarande | yes, this is a major reason why I don't PvP, except for the occasional casual random battleground while leveling |
| 23:50.59 | Amarande | although it's not quite as bad now as it was back in S3, apparently |
| 23:51.42 | Amarande | the nuts-kicker back in those days particularly was that the rating requirement *stayed* on past seasonal gear (not sure if it still does now, I think if it does it's nerfed?) |
| 23:51.51 | Amarande | and it stayed the full requirement as if it was brand new |
| 23:52.12 | Amarande | so eventually, you got to the point where Arena Points were practically worthless until and unless you could achieve the rating the gear sets asked for |
| 23:52.47 | Amarande | Basically it made PvP almost entirely for people who wanted to eat, drink, and smoke PvP |
| 23:53.27 | Amarande | anyway |
| 23:53.53 | Amarande | yeah, quest rewards ought to be fixed up in the mid levels (I noticed the panda starting area uses the new paradigm, too, which is nice) |
| 23:54.51 | Amarande | unless ... would that result in things like certain cloth rewards being denied to warlocks and mages because they have spirit, so are considered healer items and only pop up for priests? |
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| 23:55.10 | Amarande | or do you get offered all the items that you can physically wear, regardless of whether it would be a good idea to do so? |
| 23:55.36 | Amarande | (some quest rewards, particularly, have unique mog appearances, so I'm wondering if cleaning up the quest rewards like that while leveling would piss off a lot of moggers) |
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