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| 00:05.04 | Ward | nah it´s 1 AM here |
| 00:05.07 | Ward | jan 1st |
| 00:05.17 | Ward | aka, partay time |
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| 00:25.39 | Amarande | so ... maintenance tomorrow in the US or once again no? |
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| 00:33.16 | fewyn | probably not |
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| 01:29.18 | Davik | In case I'm too drunk to say it later -- Happy New Years, everyone! Drink well, stay in, and be safe! |
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| 01:37.17 | LibertineLush | happy new years to you too |
| 02:02.52 | JunkHead | so i did 4 kings in MSV again. |
| 02:03.07 | JunkHead | 2nd time this week. had a token left over so i figured i'd try for the shield again |
| 02:03.16 | JunkHead | I won tanking shoulders. |
| 02:03.22 | JunkHead | the 3rd pair. |
| 02:03.30 | JunkHead | :\ |
| 02:03.45 | Davik | :( |
| 02:04.00 | JunkHead | so now 14 kills. probably 10-11 as tank. |
| 02:04.07 | JunkHead | all using a token for a bonus roll. |
| 02:04.09 | JunkHead | no shield |
| 02:04.14 | Davik | That sucks. |
| 02:04.22 | JunkHead | yes it does. |
| 02:05.14 | Amarande | speaking of tokens, I still have a T10 token sitting around my bank, heh |
| 02:05.24 | Amarande | which now won't get used for like forever, since I won't have JPs to spare for a long long time :( |
| 02:05.58 | Amarande | let's see ... gear ... gear upgrades ... heirlooms for the alts (especially the rogue, methinks) |
| 02:05.58 | Davik | So.. |
| 02:06.02 | Davik | I have a question. |
| 02:06.07 | Davik | Pandaren Monks.. |
| 02:06.13 | Davik | Thoughts on them? |
| 02:06.15 | Amarande | also I found my first blue rare world find in Pandaria |
| 02:06.27 | Davik | Nice, Amara. |
| 02:06.29 | Amarande | too bad it's the agi staff, which since my druid isn't feral means it won't see use till my monk hits 85 heh |
| 02:06.36 | JunkHead | pandaren are cool as a race. monks seem ok. but mine is only lvl 12. |
| 02:06.42 | Davik | Well.. |
| 02:06.56 | Davik | A bunch of my real life friends and I are going to pick a server and make new characters to run around on. |
| 02:07.07 | Davik | Only thing I haven't really messed with so far is Panda Monks. |
| 02:07.08 | Amarande | my panda is a shaman, the monk is a night elf |
| 02:07.31 | Amarande | mainly as I'm thinking of going with tank spec and the avoidance racial seems like a good bet for a lightly-armoured tank |
| 02:07.31 | JunkHead | my monk is pandaran. no choice for me really. |
| 02:07.50 | JunkHead | night elves make good tanks. |
| 02:07.56 | Davik | I was thinking more a DPS Monk.. how do they compare to the rest of the DPS out there? |
| 02:08.11 | JunkHead | good so far. |
| 02:08.38 | Davik | *Nod* |
| 02:09.05 | Amarande | Davik: according to simcraft at ilvl 496, pretty good |
| 02:09.30 | Davik | i496, eh? Easy enough. |
| 02:09.35 | JunkHead | ha |
| 02:09.47 | JunkHead | they do fine in heroics |
| 02:09.53 | Davik | *Nod* |
| 02:09.57 | JunkHead | lfr they seem to do fair |
| 02:10.01 | JunkHead | not bad by any means |
| 02:10.05 | Amarande | of the 26 DPS specs (Fury warriors get two entries depending on whether they wield dual 1H or 2H weapons, and Frost DKs and Windwalker monks also get two each depending on whether they're DW or 2H) |
| 02:10.39 | Amarande | fully optimal ("patchwerk") type fights rank windwalker DW at 6th and 2H at 12th |
| 02:10.59 | Davik | Not too shabby, at all. |
| 02:12.00 | Amarande | you know what's very interesting, btw? |
| 02:12.08 | Amarande | Titan's Grip on warriors is actually a pure red herring |
| 02:12.16 | Amarande | Fury warriors actually are simming better with dual 1H than dual 2H |
| 02:12.36 | Amarande | (Patchwerk rankings: dual 1H fury = #4, dual 2H fury = #9) |
| 02:14.17 | Amarande | http://www.noxxic.com/wow/dps-rankings/maximum-dps |
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| 02:15.45 | Amarande | there's also a "more realistic" sim at noxxic which is based on a "typical raid encounter" setup (they don't really go into all that much detail as to exactly how this is calculated though :S). there windwalker DW is #14 and 2H #18 |
| 02:15.54 | Amarande | In both cases, the top three performers are arcane and frost mages, followed by aff locks |
| 02:16.50 | Amarande | which is why I said earlier that I feel a little sad for frost mage lovers |
| 02:17.27 | Amarande | finally they get their chance to shine, but end up being #2 to arcane's #1 and so from a pure practical sense it still gets eclipsed, at least under *optimal* raid conditions |
| 02:17.30 | Amarande | (which you're not going to get, mind you) |
| 02:17.52 | Amarande | simcraft tends to assume that you're an absolutely perfect automaton at WoW |
| 02:18.16 | Amarande | actually, heh, if your raid all give out optimal simcraft performances, I can tell you what loot you're going to obtain LOL |
| 02:21.55 | Amarande | most likely a nice letter on the lines of "Hello, we regret to inform you that due to the use of automated programs ("bots") in violation of the World of Warcraft Terms of Use, your World of Warcraft account has been permanently disabled." heh |
| 02:22.39 | Amarande | (also, probably, notification of charges of computer trespass, seeing as you had to install said bot on the Blizzard server in order to get the zero lag necessary to get said perfect simcraft results! LOL) |
| 02:24.49 | Amarande | hm, interesting |
| 02:25.27 | Amarande | for some reason, hunters seem to disproportionately benefit (in terms of relative performance vs. other DPS specs) compared to almost all other DPS classes/specs when going from the Patchwerk scenario to the "realistic fight" one. |
| 02:25.31 | Amarande | I wonder why that is :S |
| 02:27.25 | Amarande | Patchwerk, all three hunter specs are slightly below median in terms of maximum DPS, while under the "realistic" conditions, all three are in the top half with Survival and BM both in the top five |
| 02:29.32 | Amarande | I'm also surprised at how poorly Elemental Shaman, Balance Druid, and Shadow Priest perform on the DPS ladder (especially shadow priests, given that they're the *only* DPS option for their class) |
| 02:30.33 | Amarande | unless it's some kind of game balance thing to make up for the fact that those three specs (and *only* those three specs) bring one of the major raid buffs |
| 02:31.11 | Amarande | which is not only major, but of a unique importance in that casters, to be optimal, have to actively reforge based on whether or not said buff is present |
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| 15:04.57 | fewyn | exalted with the august celestials |
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| 15:54.37 | JunkHead- | I want to kill everyone in trade chat. |
| 15:55.55 | JunkHead- | I want to beat them unconsious with their keyboards, then chop their heads off with a rusty shovel. |
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| 17:05.14 | fewyn | i just flying serpent kicked off the mountain in kun-lai, i be sm4rt |
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| 17:06.00 | Amarande | heh, and I'm guessing you're not an engineer, nor do monks have any form of slow fall, despite the general "flavour" of the class |
| 17:06.25 | Amarande | (my monk is still the lovely and modest level of one, so I don't really know their abilities at all :p) |
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| 17:07.59 | Amarande | Speaking of fun with falling, I'm still not sure why when I tried to fly the direct route over from Dalaran to Borean, I got dismounted when going over WG |
| 17:08.12 | Amarande | There was still 40 minutes until battle at the time, soo ... :S |
| 17:08.20 | stuf | it does that |
| 17:08.34 | stuf | not sure but started happening after CRZ was implemented |
| 17:08.52 | Amarande | The really fun thing is that the mount buff sticks to your buff icons afterwards, even though you've been dismounted |
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| 17:09.05 | Amarande | and, what's worse, you can't even mount that same mount again until you either relog or use a different mount first |
| 17:09.20 | Amarande | because it thinks you're still on the one you got dumped off of, so it won't register "mount this" because it thinks you're already |
| 17:12.39 | Amarande | stuf: yeah, I'm presuming that the server that you're on in Dragonblight before crossing into WG must be in battle at the time :S |
| 17:12.56 | Amarande | since I know WG itself has been specifically taken off of CRZ |
| 17:13.06 | Amarande | a godsend, since otherwise one of the fishing dailies would probably be permanently impossible |
| 17:13.54 | Amarande | since, well ... due to the battle times not being the same across all servers, it's almost certain that WG would almost ALWAYS be in battle for one or other of the shared servers if CRZ'd, as was indeed the case during the initial CRaZiness ... |
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| 17:14.58 | Amarande | and you can't do said fishing daily unless there's non-battle time, seeing as you get kicked out of the zone unless you join your faction's battle team, but then you're in a raid, which means you won't be able to loot the quest fish :) |
| 17:16.22 | stuf | ouch |
| 17:16.32 | stuf | haven't noticed that, although haven't done any dailies in there in a long while |
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| 17:35.41 | Amarande | stuf: yeah, now that WG is taken off CRZ, it's pretty simple to do the fishing daily there |
| 17:36.00 | Amarande | apparently you still have to watch out for being undraked suddenly, though :p |
| 17:36.19 | Amarande | hell, it hit me so surprisingly that as a mage I forgot to hit my slow fall and went splat :| |
| 17:37.07 | hylje | ;_; |
| 17:37.13 | Amarande | It did make me laugh loud and long a few weeks ago too though, when I was level 87 and tried to fly across WG |
| 17:37.32 | Amarande | And what happens? I get teleported to Dragonblight being told "YOU ARE TOO LOW LEVEL FOR THIS" |
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| 17:47.43 | Rhymez | hey.. thinking of rerolling in 5.2. Rogue or Resto Sham, what do you think? |
| 17:48.19 | fewyn | resto shaman |
| 17:52.37 | Rhymez | why so? |
| 17:57.58 | JunkHead- | because it's not a rogue. |
| 17:58.26 | fewyn | ^ |
| 17:58.35 | fewyn | all the rogue loot to fewyn |
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| 18:10.07 | b4k4^^ | Amarande: :D |
| 18:15.20 | Amarande | depends, Rhymez, do you have a load of lockboxes sitting in your bank that you can't open and don't care enough to spam trade to have a rogue open? :) |
| 18:15.57 | Rhymez | no i just want a decent class for pvp next patch |
| 18:16.26 | b4k4^^ | rogue/bs/engineer =P |
| 18:27.30 | Amarande | ouch |
| 18:27.38 | Amarande | I could never bring myself to take BS and Eng on the same character |
| 18:27.52 | Amarande | although my guild master actually does exactly that (he does have alts for mining, though) |
| 18:33.53 | nebula169 | i have it on two toon, then another two that are bs/jc |
| 18:33.56 | nebula169 | not hard |
| 18:35.38 | Amarande | yeah, leveling metal is probably pretty easy to come by |
| 18:35.44 | Amarande | particularly as I notice mithril bars tend to just sit lately :P |
| 18:35.50 | Amarande | ahhhh, alas poor mithril |
| 18:36.16 | Amarande | Mid-20th century: Mithril is a precious substance that dwarves were willing to put their entire kingdom's welfare at risk to acquire more of. |
| 18:36.40 | Amarande | 1980s: Mithril is a pretty standard, but still pretty staple component of adventurer gear (old Bard's Tale series, basically the equivalent of +1 and you used it for most of the game) |
| 18:37.07 | Amarande | 2009: Mithril is found in small quantities and is a rare material used to make high quality gear during a particular level range (LOTRO) |
| 18:37.15 | Amarande | 2012: Mithril is apparently garbage that just sits (WoW AH) |
| 18:37.31 | b4k4^^ | mmyeah |
| 18:37.43 | b4k4^^ | best use for mithril ore is prospecting :P |
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| 18:57.49 | fewyn | mithril ore sells fairly well on my server just not in ginormous quanities |
| 19:06.06 | Amarande | Bars don't seem to sell at all |
| 19:06.10 | Amarande | haven't tried ore in a while |
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| 19:23.00 | fewyn | [14:22:30] [90:Chiwyn] has earned the achievement [Level 90]! |
| 19:23.27 | fewyn | 3 to go |
| 19:31.47 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/velen/Chiwyn/advanced |
| 20:05.40 | JunkHead- | one use elkano's buffbars? |
| 20:05.43 | JunkHead- | anyone* |
| 20:05.47 | Pahonix | ya |
| 20:05.58 | JunkHead- | you use it with a paladin by chance? |
| 20:06.15 | Pahonix | not recently. haven't touched either of my pallies in a few months |
| 20:06.27 | JunkHead- | i wonder how to make your seals show up as buffs |
| 20:06.46 | fewyn | i do |
| 20:06.51 | fewyn | i use it on everything |
| 20:06.55 | JunkHead- | even after i cast and recast them they never show up as buffs or as tench |
| 20:06.56 | fewyn | and you can't |
| 20:06.58 | fewyn | i think |
| 20:07.00 | JunkHead- | aww... |
| 20:07.04 | JunkHead- | thats messed up |
| 20:08.01 | fewyn | bartender turns them into a stance bar |
| 20:08.10 | fewyn | or maybe they already are in the default ui |
| 20:08.21 | fewyn | so the one is changed to a different icon when on |
| 20:08.27 | JunkHead- | i usually turn off stances with bartender. |
| 20:08.33 | JunkHead- | but i guess thats why they dont show up |
| 20:08.37 | fewyn | i keep them n the top left corner |
| 20:08.40 | JunkHead- | because warrior stances dont either |
| 20:08.49 | fewyn | yeah |
| 20:08.52 | fewyn | you should enable them |
| 20:08.54 | JunkHead- | i was thinking of them as buffs. not stances |
| 20:09.00 | fewyn | they turned a lot of shit into "stances" |
| 20:09.04 | fewyn | in mop |
| 20:09.10 | fewyn | hunter aspects |
| 20:09.28 | fewyn | other stuff too |
| 20:09.30 | JunkHead- | yeah but i think aspect shows up as a buff in ebb |
| 20:09.31 | fewyn | that i can't think of |
| 20:12.25 | fewyn | do they? i haven't leveled my hunter yet |
| 20:15.52 | JunkHead- | damn phone rang and a tiger killed me.:( |
| 20:16.03 | JunkHead- | i think they are shown as buffs |
| 20:16.07 | JunkHead- | not 100% sure though |
| 20:18.25 | JunkHead- | yup aspect of the pack and iron hawk show up on buff bar |
| 20:18.46 | JunkHead- | as does trap launcher |
| 20:19.45 | JunkHead- | which trap launcher is kinda like a stance too since it lasts until cancelled |
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| 20:23.16 | JunkHead | well damn. |
| 20:26.40 | JunkHead | any new years resolutions? |
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| 20:39.34 | fewyn | there we go, picked up my presents on all my chars |
| 20:39.45 | JunkHead | i didn't even do the presents stuff |
| 20:39.51 | JunkHead | haven't even thought about it |
| 20:40.17 | fewyn | wanted my fooootballs |
| 20:45.46 | Eraclito | fewyn, how many? |
| 20:49.01 | fewyn | i have 8 90s now |
| 20:49.14 | fewyn | but i also picked it up on all my chars on norg and illidan |
| 20:49.19 | Eraclito | http://www.wowhead.com/user=fewyn#characters oh i see |
| 20:49.23 | fewyn | yes |
| 20:50.14 | Eraclito | i've taken them on my 11 on well of eternity, 2 on dentarg, 3 on ol' runetotem i've leveled just to please a female friend-i-recruited |
| 20:50.56 | Eraclito | also i'm thinking i should race and realm transfer that ones, i mean, at least i'd have chance to use'em as horde and... ...how much does cost a recustomization+transfer? |
| 20:52.59 | JunkHead | realm is 25 |
| 20:53.05 | JunkHead | race is... 15? |
| 20:53.10 | JunkHead | not sure |
| 20:54.12 | Eraclito | okay, i think my second shaman and second dk aren't worth it |
| 20:54.47 | fewyn | hunter priest mage |
| 20:54.50 | fewyn | all that's left |
| 20:54.58 | JunkHead | hunter next |
| 20:55.02 | fewyn | yep |
| 21:00.26 | JunkHead | I killed that rare in jade forest a few times until i got the epic 420 crossbow |
| 21:00.36 | JunkHead | it carried me all the way to 90 |
| 21:02.51 | fewyn | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/velen/Fewydactyl/advanced my huntard |
| 21:03.25 | JunkHead | i got mine to 90, then stopped for the most part. |
| 21:03.32 | JunkHead | i'd love to get her to lfr ilvl. |
| 21:03.34 | JunkHead | same for my shaman. |
| 21:03.38 | JunkHead | but it aint happening. |
| 21:05.37 | JunkHead | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormrage/Crass/advanced |
| 21:05.38 | JunkHead | mine |
| 21:05.53 | JunkHead | she now does her fam. and thats it/. |
| 21:05.55 | JunkHead | farm |
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| 22:25.43 | JunkHead | it feels like today is never going to end.:( |
| 22:25.58 | JunkHead | i swear i've been here for about 20 hours. |
| 22:36.13 | Stormscape | hue |
| 22:37.41 | *** join/#wowhead Secarious (4f8229ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.130.41.173) |
| 22:37.47 | Secarious | *sigh* |
| 22:37.50 | Secarious | I am bored |
| 22:37.58 | JunkHead | no you're not |
| 22:38.06 | Secarious | yes I am |
| 22:38.12 | Secarious | but most importantly |
| 22:38.15 | ItalianSt | got a question, if im a druid and i wanna transmog a cloth item, can i do that? |
| 22:38.15 | Secarious | Wowhead is DEAD! |
| 22:38.25 | Secarious | yes you can |
| 22:38.32 | JunkHead | it works for me. |
| 22:38.36 | ItalianSt | oh ok |
| 22:38.50 | ItalianSt | so armor proficiency doesnt matter |
| 22:39.52 | Secarious | I can't understand why 80% of the people connected to the IRC channel, don't say a word.... |
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| 22:40.09 | JunkHead | we're edgy. |
| 22:40.37 | Secarious | funny thing, I am still banned but who cares, I almost once again got bored of wow |
| 22:43.09 | Secarious | wowhead is dead |
| 22:43.13 | Secarious | **sniff** |
| 22:43.30 | JunkHead | It's not dead. |
| 22:43.33 | JunkHead | It's resting. |
| 22:43.56 | fewyn | the irc channel is only active in spurts |
| 22:44.04 | Secarious | spurts? |
| 22:44.09 | fewyn | yes |
| 22:44.10 | fewyn | spurts |
| 22:44.14 | JunkHead | spurts! |
| 22:44.14 | Secarious | what is that |
| 22:44.29 | Secarious | google time |
| 22:44.42 | fewyn | if you have to ask you can't afford it |
| 22:44.56 | JunkHead | YOU CANT AFFORD IT!!!!! |
| 22:45.14 | Secarious | I am sorry but english isn't my native language ya know |
| 22:45.31 | JunkHead | SPURT SPURT SPURT |
| 22:45.35 | Secarious | spurts mean εκτοξεύσεις in greek, wtf? |
| 22:45.48 | JunkHead | Exactly. |
| 22:46.11 | Secarious | it doenst make any sense |
| 22:46.40 | JunkHead | [16:43:54] <@fewyn> the irc channel is only active in spurts <-- it's only active in short bursts of time. |
| 22:46.49 | JunkHead | quiet most of the time. |
| 22:46.58 | Secarious | lol yea right |
| 22:48.23 | Secarious | hmmm spurt also means in greek :ανάβλυση, όρμηση, έξαψη,φορτσάρω,ξεπετάγομα,αναβλύζω |
| 22:48.53 | JunkHead | Hey Fewyn! I told you that it means ανάβλυση, όρμηση, έξαψη,φορτσάρω,ξεπετάγομα,αναβλύζω. |
| 22:49.14 | fewyn | ching chong potato |
| 22:49.27 | Secarious | heh, If I was unbanned, I would necro old threads once again, ha! that would be fun lol |
| 22:49.38 | fewyn | then you'd get banned again |
| 22:49.41 | Secarious | well ofc it means that |
| 22:49.47 | Secarious | it's greek |
| 22:49.48 | Secarious | duh |
| 22:50.38 | Secarious | όπως η πατάτα σημαίνει potato in english :P |
| 22:52.26 | JunkHead | I'm thinking about a Philly Cheesesteak and some Fries for dinner. |
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| 23:11.58 | JunkPhone | i had to clean my desk up a bit. |
| 23:12.09 | JunkPhone | so ready to go home. |
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| 23:32.57 | JunkPhone | i might do msv tonight. get it over with. |
| 23:33.54 | Stormscape | "fuck the animals if we're not supposed to eat them stop making them out of meat" |
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