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| 00:09.34 | Amarande | hmmm ... how can we put that, 50% of the human population exceeds median levels of douchebagginess? |
| 00:10.14 | Amarande | what's fun is that oftentimes a persistently fail dungeon group will kick their best player, not their worst, heh |
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| 00:24.26 | Jammer | always healer's fault |
| 00:25.36 | Amarande | heh. I think it was the tank's fault the most memorable semi-recent time I recall that happening, although the healer was pretty bad too |
| 00:26.03 | Amarande | however, quite often the player who's fault it is isn't the one who gets kicked. indeed, often it's the player who *points out* how bad one of the players is, sadly. |
| 00:26.46 | Jammer | at least dungeons are so easy now should not happen too much |
| 00:27.44 | Amarande | yeah, this far into the expansion they're probably facerolls |
| 00:31.24 | Mr_Rabies | they were from the get-go |
| 00:31.30 | Mr_Rabies | they're probably the easiest dungeons to date |
| 00:34.37 | kullervo | http://kullervo.dy.fi/pub/drop/pic/2013-06-17_03-34-25.png |
| 00:35.00 | kullervo | Mr_Rabies: they're so easy healers can solo them |
| 00:35.25 | Mr_Rabies | i regularly pretty much two-man them |
| 00:35.32 | Mr_Rabies | everyone else just afk follows nowadays, it seems |
| 00:36.15 | kullervo | some kids laughed at me when I complained about the tank being bad and then followed with "I'm a working man, I don't have time for being bad" |
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| 00:38.37 | Amarande | yeah, some kids have this idea that everyone has all day and night to play one game |
| 00:55.01 | kullervo | leading the dps meters, dps complai: "You shouldn't be doing that much dps!" |
| 00:55.12 | kullervo | tanking everything, tank complains: "You should let me pull" |
| 00:55.34 | kullervo | I'm just trying to play healer as efficiently as I can |
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| 01:52.35 | Jammer | wow battletron was tough with my 515 ilvl mage alt ... really lacking self heals >< |
| 01:57.04 | raspy | weee |
| 01:58.36 | raspy | thinking onna move another one of my guys to stormrage |
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| 13:14.35 | channelolli | hey |
| 13:15.06 | channelolli | anyone here? ;p |
| 13:18.13 | b4k4^^ | no |
| 13:18.21 | channelolli | oh okay |
| 13:18.27 | b4k4^^ | I'm just a figment of Internet's imagination |
| 13:18.37 | channelolli | it happens! |
| 13:18.58 | channelolli | I play on alliance, darkspear |
| 13:19.00 | b4k4^^ | srsly tho, this channel seems to be sporadically active |
| 13:19.35 | channelolli | yeah I just had a question |
| 13:23.44 | b4k4^^ | hmm? |
| 13:24.02 | channelolli | see im a hunter |
| 13:24.05 | channelolli | just dinged 90 |
| 13:24.07 | channelolli | and a night elf |
| 13:24.11 | channelolli | I purchased a race change |
| 13:24.19 | channelolli | I combine PvP with Pve |
| 13:24.25 | channelolli | not sure if I wanna go human or panda |
| 13:27.35 | b4k4^^ | I have no idea |
| 13:28.05 | b4k4^^ | my hunter is lvl 26 and I have no pandas, and my human is a dk :P |
| 13:29.01 | channelolli | thx tho :) |
| 13:29.30 | drizztbsd | I wish I can have panda dk :P |
| 13:30.11 | channelolli | yea lol |
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| 17:21.02 | narwhalbot | [The Wowhead Blog] 5.4 PTR: Profession Additions and Changes - http://www.wowhead.com/news=215256/5-4-ptr-profession-additions-and-changes |
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| 18:42.40 | TecnoBrat | fewyn: tooltips all show "no response from server :(" |
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| 20:26.21 | Amarande | *looks up* b4k4^^, in MoP's case the definite recommendation is human, though :) |
| 20:26.35 | Amarande | the less gods-cursed Shado-Pain dailies you have to do to get exalted, the better :p |
| 20:26.50 | Amarande | oops did I say Shado-Pain again? I meant Shado-Pan. :) |
| 20:28.26 | fewyn | human 4 lyfe |
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| 21:03.38 | Ward | humans simply have the only racial that is absolutely necessary for any pve |
| 21:03.46 | Ward | so many reps to grind in game |
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| 21:13.53 | oscarucb | is the wowhead character profiler broken, or is it just me? |
| 21:15.47 | oscarucb | ugh nvm - guess it's still not been updated for MoP O.o |
| 21:21.19 | Amarande | Ward: you know what the strange thing is though? |
| 21:21.29 | Amarande | despite the "absolute necessity" of the human racial |
| 21:21.51 | Amarande | the top raid progression guilds are normally Horde from the get-go of each expansion and stay that way |
| 21:22.03 | Ward | that has nothing to do with any racials |
| 21:22.14 | Ward | that´s just dedicated geeks with too much time prefering to play exotic races |
| 21:22.29 | Amarande | well, you would have expected it to be Alliance more often |
| 21:22.54 | Amarande | Much more often in some cases, especially in BC where early on you needed revered rep to get into heroics, and you couldn't raid *at all* without doing enough specific quests in the heroics |
| 21:23.17 | Amarande | or at least, not past kara/mag |
| 21:24.01 | Amarande | pretty sure kara key only needed normals ... but everything T5+, you needed the reps for heroics just to get attuned for the raids, let alone do them |
| 21:25.09 | Amarande | so you'd expect Alliance to have utterly dominated back then with the 10% head start on so many people due to human characters, but, as far as I remember, they didn't |
| 21:26.31 | Amarande | but yeah, I definitely wish my non-human alliance characters had that rep advantage |
| 21:27.16 | Amarande | but that's mostly because so many of the MoP dailies suck, and they tended to put the sucky dailies together on the same factions so you didn't really have any alternative for getting a specific rep |
| 21:27.34 | Amarande | like shado-pan. the main way to win with shado-pan was to not plan to need any valor epics from shado-pan :) |
| 21:29.12 | Amarande | actually they were probably the worst ... some would complain about dread wastes, but I actually liked the mantid faction stuff. Golden Lotus had a few clunkers (especially how much of a PITA that crocodile boss was if you were alone on a non-pet class), but mostly the only really hard bit was that one quest once you hit exalted |
| 21:31.25 | Amarande | Though even Shado-Pan are probably a lot easier now with the better gear you can get from higher end content now :) |
| 21:32.15 | Amarande | It really pissed me off before, because pre-5.2 for the most part some of their quests were barely survivable as a mage, especially the final capstone of the day quest with the boss mob was very touch-and-go as to whether you could do it without dying once or twice |
| 21:43.20 | TecnoBrat | TBC |
| 21:43.20 | TecnoBrat | Number of "World first" kills made by the Horde : 27 |
| 21:43.20 | TecnoBrat | Number of "World first" kills made by the Alliance : 12 |
| 21:44.07 | TecnoBrat | Original Naxx was basically 90% alliance |
| 21:44.34 | TecnoBrat | Wrath: |
| 21:44.34 | TecnoBrat | Number of "World first" kills made by the Horde : 28 |
| 21:44.34 | TecnoBrat | Number of "World first" kills made by the Alliance : 10 |
| 21:46.12 | TecnoBrat | Plus remember, Shaman vs Paladin |
| 21:48.27 | TecnoBrat | alot more than just a human racial as differences back then |
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| 22:00.24 | Amarande | TecnoBrat: yeah, but there were no faction-exclusive classes as of TBC |
| 22:00.54 | Amarande | I was more thinking that Alliance would have been able to get geared for the raids sooner and thus have a decisive edge, though |
| 22:01.14 | Amarande | due to needing that many fewer dungeon runs to breach the heroic thresholds |
| 22:02.45 | Amarande | Especially, too, given that some factions offered only one choice for getting through Honoured, and that choice wasn't always a readily zergable one with the kind of ratty bootstrap gear you have to do stuff with when you're going for world firsts since you don't have time to fuss over complete optimisation |
| 22:04.16 | Amarande | like ... Shattered Halls. heh. those words struck fear into most players in TBC days |
| 22:04.28 | Amarande | but it was your only choice for getting through Honoured with Thrallmar or HH |
| 22:06.49 | Amarande | and yeah, I've pretty much come to grok that world firsting is a far different game from the raiding game most of us play :) |
| 22:08.20 | Amarande | particularly, that NOT ONLY do (or did, since so much is spoilt by PTRs and wider beta audiences nowadays) you need to kill the boss with little or nothing to go on from community resources, but you also need to do it in gear that most raid leaders would consider you possessed by Yogg-Saron to even apply for guild with, let alone actually go straight to raid with, heh |
| 22:09.33 | Amarande | Not surprised Alliance won almost all the Naxx competition, though - and oddly enough, not really because of the way Naxx itself was built. :) |
| 22:10.36 | Amarande | If anything, I can't imagine any serious raider having got into Naxx with anything short of the free attunement. It was actually AQ that probably gave Alliance the victory for Naxx. |
| 22:12.13 | Amarande | and that's a situation that I don't think is likely to ever occur again, pretty much |
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| 22:45.09 | Amarande | hm |
| 22:45.19 | Amarande | here's something of a more technical nature that maybe some of you folks who don't have an active subscription can tell me :| |
| 22:45.28 | Amarande | how do you post on Battle.net forums without resubbing to WoW? |
| 22:45.35 | Amarande | I don't mean the WoW forums ... I mean the D3 forums |
| 22:45.57 | Amarande | except, when I log on my bnet account, the add reply button is greyed out in d3 forums too, because it's trying to have me post as my WoW character and so says "your subscription has expired" |
| 22:46.42 | Amarande | oh, there we go. :) |
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| 23:26.21 | anon123 | whats a good spec for prot warrior (patch 3.3.5) ? |
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| 23:27.55 | Mr_Rabies | lol |
| 23:28.12 | Mr_Rabies | why do people always go here for private server advice |
| 23:30.11 | fewyn | because |
| 23:30.12 | fewyn | wowhead |
| 23:40.40 | Amarande | maybe they're genuinely not aware that the WoW fan community stands by Blizzard's decision not to allow private servers? |
| 23:41.26 | Amarande | keep in mind, private servers, legit or not, have existed for pretty much every MMO ever released, and even when they're not considered legit by the company, a lot of times the player community don't care about that |
| 23:42.03 | Amarande | and, indeed, Blizzard seems to be fairly uniquely tough on them too (keep in mind that the whole thing pretty much began with private UO shards, and in that case we're talking the dreaded EA, of all things) |
| 23:47.41 | Amarande | Mind you, this is probably a pretty good thing all told, keeping the subscribers as a percentage of players ratio this high is surely part of why it doesn't cost 300 bucks to get a new player into WoW :) |
| 23:48.20 | Amarande | (whereas, by comparison, you look at your typical F2P game and except for the occasional limited time store sale ... most content tends to cost no less now than it did when it came out) |
| 23:48.55 | Amarande | or even for that matter something like LOTRO where you have the option of subscribing. still 50 bucks an expansion pretty much, all the way back to Moria. yeah, probably a good thing they keep people paying for WoW. :) |
| 23:49.49 | Amarande | (I could get started on how 50 bucks for Moria is like paying to suffer CIA torture techniques, but that's another topic altogether :P LOL) |
