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| 05:58.50 | PockyKnight | 'lo ladies and gents |
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| 12:31.02 | Amarande | so yay, finally getting back into playing |
| 12:31.04 | Amarande | hrm. |
| 12:31.15 | Amarande | how's the class balance/raid difficulty actually working this patch? |
| 12:31.42 | Amarande | looking at noxxic it seems that at BiS tier this patch, there's an almost 100k DPS difference between top and lowest now *blink* |
| 12:32.14 | Amarande | does this mean that SoO is going to be unusually easy (in order to accommodate the large variance) or that large swathes of class/spec combos need not apply and you'd better play FOTM because the difference has got this large? |
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| 14:17.18 | b4k4^^ | it's definitely easier than ToT was |
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| 14:18.07 | criticalord | iop |
| 14:18.14 | b4k4^^ | my guild is now 11/14, *definitely* had less proogression at this point in ToT |
| 14:18.20 | b4k4^^ | -o |
| 14:19.05 | criticalord | :p |
| 14:19.08 | b4k4^^ | I foresee lots of funnitude in lfr future :3 |
| 14:19.17 | criticalord | erk lfr |
| 14:19.20 | b4k4^^ | read: wipes |
| 14:19.26 | b4k4^^ | yeah :P |
| 14:19.46 | criticalord | my mother make lfr |
| 14:19.52 | criticalord | ! |
| 14:20.05 | b4k4^^ | tried to do pt 1 on my lock this morning, couldn't get a second tank, group fell apart after a couple of wipes on Norushen |
| 14:20.33 | criticalord | pt 1 i'ts easy |
| 14:20.34 | b4k4^^ | I was in it for better trinkets than the lock has and the chest token :P |
| 14:20.58 | b4k4^^ | well yes |
| 14:21.25 | criticalord | the difficulty begin with galarkas |
| 14:21.28 | b4k4^^ | but you need 2 tanks for Norushen really, or at least taunts |
| 14:21.41 | criticalord | yes offcourse |
| 14:21.45 | b4k4^^ | and decent deeps |
| 14:22.17 | b4k4^^ | first attempt several dps died, wipe 30 sec from berserk |
| 14:22.24 | b4k4^^ | second try hit berserk |
| 14:22.50 | b4k4^^ | third attempt, well, there was none |
| 14:23.21 | criticalord | lol |
| 14:24.09 | b4k4^^ | figured I didn't want to wait since I didn't really need anything |
| 14:25.45 | b4k4^^ | got Thok down on normal yesterday, Blackfuse was a bit much with midnight approaching |
| 14:26.06 | b4k4^^ | *lots* of stuff to dodge |
| 14:26.10 | Amarande | b4k4: not surprised, the greater the delta between DPS classes/specs, the more they're going to *have* to make it ICC-easy |
| 14:26.23 | Amarande | I'm guessing battles that are all about tight enrage timers will have to go, too |
| 14:26.58 | b4k4^^ | tbh Amalgam isn't particularly tight |
| 14:27.01 | Amarande | at least based on noxxic simcraft, there's about a 20-25% potential difference in DPS between raids simply based on class/spec, even if you have best gear and perfect rotations |
| 14:27.10 | b4k4^^ | we just had too many dps dead |
| 14:27.23 | b4k4^^ | in part because adds |
| 14:27.27 | Amarande | which pretty much limits just how difficult you can make a berserk |
| 14:27.31 | kadrahil | imo it's bad to base expectations of a tier of content based purely off speculations from simulated damage |
| 14:28.06 | Amarande | kadrahil: well the alternative would be for dps people to have to maintain several alts so they can use whichever ones are fotm for the present tier |
| 14:28.14 | Amarande | which would be what we like to call "fun" in quotation marks |
| 14:28.24 | Amarande | given the amount of time it takes to gear a DPS character well in general, thanks to queue times |
| 14:29.28 | b4k4^^ | my main is an spriest, lousy loot luck this tier, not top dps |
| 14:29.44 | Amarande | mind you nowadays you might be able to valor cap easily just off dailies :P |
| 14:29.49 | b4k4^^ | *needs* at least flex loot for anything to be a decent upgrade |
| 14:30.11 | b4k4^^ | well, I did it in 5.0 |
| 14:30.21 | b4k4^^ | a horrid grind tho |
| 14:30.27 | Amarande | though I'm not 100% sure what the total valor available from dailies is anymore |
| 14:30.32 | Amarande | since most of the golden lotus dailies in particular are gone |
| 14:30.36 | b4k4^^ | "lots and then some" |
| 14:30.39 | Amarande | (mind you many of them I won't miss at all :P) |
| 14:30.59 | b4k4^^ | TI has trivial 50 vp dailies |
| 14:31.05 | Amarande | Fuck you, swarming ghost spirits that eat my squishy mage alive unless I'm specifically prepped to fight a group of them :P |
| 14:31.09 | Amarande | Fuck you, Zhao-Jin. |
| 14:31.11 | b4k4^^ | and a 200 vp daily for epoch stones |
| 14:31.28 | b4k4^^ | *weekly |
| 14:31.37 | b4k4^^ | <- not quite awake |
| 14:32.03 | Amarande | And then there's the meat daily for tillers where you have to fight those baa-ram-ewe goats or whatever they were, I hated that one as a mage |
| 14:32.04 | b4k4^^ | yeah, not liking TI on other than spriest and lock |
| 14:32.25 | Amarande | since you ALWAYS had to eat a stupid ramming every fight, and thus couldn't fight more than one mob at a time (I saw some pallies fight 3 at once) |
| 14:32.47 | Amarande | and if you weren't careful ... well at least there was slow fall, which would result in you being most of the way across the zone by the time you landed LOL |
| 14:32.49 | b4k4^^ | until you have enough derps to nuke a ram before a butt |
| 14:33.26 | Amarande | in fact, a butt will toss you SO far with slow fall that you actually have to recast it at least once before you finally land :) |
| 14:33.37 | b4k4^^ | :D |
| 14:33.46 | b4k4^^ | never tried that aksherli |
| 14:34.34 | b4k4^^ | btw, found out at one point that the duration of goblin glider is *not* 2 min, it's longer |
| 14:34.50 | b4k4^^ | you can fall over 2 mins with it |
| 14:40.20 | Amarande | bleh. EJ is suggesting that gathering professions suck and you'd better learn to suck it up and love farming money to level profs off the AH :| |
| 14:40.39 | Amarande | apparently, only noobs use the "crafting + matching gathering prof" setup on raiding characters? :| |
| 14:43.48 | b4k4^^ | obviously |
| 14:43.54 | b4k4^^ | I like synergy tho |
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| 16:07.28 | Dennls | just had someone whisper me claiming to be a "545 resto DPS" |
| 16:11.14 | b4k4^^ | interesting |
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| 17:50.47 | Mr_Rabies | <Amarande> bleh. EJ is suggesting that gathering professions suck and you'd better learn to suck it up and love farming money to level profs off the AH :| |
| 17:51.05 | kadrahil | also |
| 17:51.09 | kadrahil | fotm classes are a crutch |
| 17:51.29 | kadrahil | play what you want because you enjoy it |
| 17:52.09 | Mr_Rabies | <Amarande> apparently, only noobs use the "crafting + matching gathering prof" setup on raiding characters? :| |
| 17:52.10 | Mr_Rabies | this is why i support removing gathering profs and giving the ability to gather mats to everyone |
| 17:52.26 | kadrahil | That would be optimal |
| 17:56.53 | nebula169 | would be amazing if the prof could gather the mats associated with it atleast |
| 17:58.28 | kadrahil | yes |
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| 20:32.00 | narwhalbot | [Wowhead News] Blizzard Video: Patch 5.4 Developer Round Table - http://www.wowhead.com/news=221336/blizzard-video-patch-5-4-developer-round-table |
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| 21:21.56 | Dennls | http://i.imgur.com/M2IUyWP.png :D |
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| 23:45.16 | Kodiack | Wowhead just die? D: |
| 23:51.36 | fewyn | something is happening |
| 23:51.38 | fewyn | STAY TUNED |
| 23:51.44 | fewyn | big announcement shortly |
| 23:52.59 | Azelphur | Announcement: wowhead down forever, wow users suffering the pain of actually having to read quest text |
| 23:53.04 | Azelphur | runs |
| 23:53.55 | fewyn | not quite that =p |
| 23:54.28 | Azelphur | hehe |
