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01:06.31fewynwowhead is down
01:06.33fewynwe know
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01:45.02Stormkittyhttp://imgur.com/o29F1Ho every damn time
01:48.58fewynwowhead should be back online
01:50.58Jammeruh oh, left my festival dungeon grind too close to reset :p
01:52.51Eraclitough
01:52.59Eraclitothe grind is painful
01:53.38Eraclitoit's like more than hour a day
01:53.53Jammerindeed
01:54.11Jammerthanks blizzard for this "fun"
01:55.32iblizzardYou're welcome.
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01:56.54fewyni did it 24 times today
01:56.55fewyndon't whine
01:58.14Eraclitookay, i did just 13, you win
01:58.47Eraclitoi also think i should have leveled my last 85 to 89/90 to have another chance
02:00.28AmarandeJammer: every game has its "fun"
02:00.59Amarandee.g., LOTRO has We Cannot Get Out and Vol 3 Book 3 Chapter 3, both of which have become ludicrously evil thanks to changes elsewhere in the game :)
02:01.10AmarandeSW:TOR has quests you have to either let sit in the log or abandon FOR GOOD
02:01.11Amarandeetc.
02:06.23Jammerfewyn: how many 90s you got? :P
02:06.28fewyn24
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02:08.02Eraclitommh up to 22, 1x class on each faction, but... which ones are your triple classes?
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02:09.03Eraclitoi understand three paladins, they're pretty cool. but to have three warriors, you must love that class
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02:15.01kullervoor hate yourself
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02:16.27Amarande_yeah, I don't think I've ever managed to get past the low 20s on warrior
02:16.39Amarande_then again, that was pre cata/mop, maybe with the class revamps it's not as bad now
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02:17.10Amarande_since mop, I managed to get all the way to the high 40s or so on a rogue, which I also found painful prior to that
02:17.12Lugburzimo stop leveling as prot :p
02:17.15Amarande_but was pretty fun on the rogue
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10:57.55b4k4^^I wonder what that was...
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16:08.56StormkittySo I decided to start playing Old Republic again cause even though it's supposed to be an MMO it's honestly a pretty fun single player RPG
16:09.15AmarandeI'm getting ready to switch games from LOTRO soon
16:09.26AmarandeIt's been a fun three months, but one needs to keep things fresh
16:09.41Amarande(also, this will give turbine time to fix effing 3.3.3 if they ever do LOL)
16:10.24Amarandeheh, I actually quite get the rationale behind why 3.3.3 is semi-broken, but it also irritates the shit out of me on the flip side of the same coin
16:11.33Stormkittyheh, there's only 18 servers total for TOR now, I remember at launch they had like over 150 cause erreybody wanted to play
16:11.34Amarande(that's LOTRO shorthand for "Vol. III, Book 3, Chapter 3, btw)
16:12.05Amarande(the Epic Quest is divided into volumes, which are then divided into quest chains called "books" and the individual quests are "chapters")
16:12.21Stormkittythat sounds needlessly complex
16:12.32AmarandeWell, initially, there was only one volume of the Epic Quest
16:12.47Amarandethe Shadows of Angmar, so initially you only had Books
16:13.02Amarandehowever, the length of Books is generally rather too long to really be a single quest, so they're broken up into quest chains
16:13.27Amarandethere tend to be anywhere from about 5 to 20 total quests in each book
16:13.38Amarande5 might work as a multi-objective quest but 20 would be way too long :)
16:14.12Amarandethen they put Mines of Moria into its own Volume, and then everything after Mirkwood has been Volume 3
16:14.28Amarandeit kind of makes sense to have the volumes, and possibly they don't even have quite enough (especially considering you don't always have to do all the books in order within a volume either)
16:15.05Amarandewhat happened to III.3.3 though was that ... you're meant to be fleeing from hordes of invincible shades in the Paths of the Dead (remember that place from the LOTR books, where the shades fell upon unwelcome visitors)
16:15.46Amarandeunfortunately, some clever asshats decided to start taking advantage of the auto-granted quest at festival times ("complete this quest to port to the festival grounds!") to evade being killed in the PvP area
16:16.19Amarande... so they nerfed it by making it impossible to progress quests while in combat, which of course makes it insanely obtuse to do that quest atm because you have to contrive a way to not be in combat when you get to the end, which is not how it was designed :|
16:16.42Amarande(or at least to progress quests by talking to NPCs or actively clicking something ... quests that auto progress still do so)
16:17.27AmarandeI can see why you wouldn't want someone to port out in combat, but it DOES screw up existing content, and I've also always found it grating when it seems like MMO developers give more priority to PvP fixes even if it means PvE be damned :|
16:18.17Amarandeheh, as for the TOR servers, yeah, they seem to do mergers all the time
16:18.28Amarandeit's probably a consistent problem with MMOs, though
16:18.53Amarandeeither you launch with a number of servers that's sustainable over time, but then players will bitch you out because the first week or two involve basically a login lottery
16:19.21Amarande(and quite understandable, really ... who wants initial progression to possibly heavily hinge on whether you got lucky in the login scramble at launch?)
16:20.16Amarandeafter all, worst case is you have a job and can only get on during peak periods so you get frozen out for two weeks after you get the game ... as WoW teaches us, two weeks is an aeon in terms of preparedness for endgame
16:20.53Amarandeor you launch with a number of servers that can sustain launch, but attrition is inevitable, even WoW shows that
16:21.39Amarandeguessing the main reason WoW has so many servers is because when vanilla (maybe some xpacks) was new they needed that many
16:37.56JunkHeadyup
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18:43.00narwhalbot[Wowhead News] Level 90 Boost gear on PTR, Challenge Mode End of Season Early Warning - http://www.wowhead.com/news=228411/level-90-boost-gear-on-ptr-challenge-mode-end-of-season-early-warning
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21:32.41fewyn96 tries on the boss so far this week
21:32.46fewynholiday boss
21:35.32kullervofewyn: you won't see the mount
21:36.14fewynshut up
21:49.11Gnarfozoh he'll see it... when somebody else gets it
21:50.26JunkHeadif it makes you feel better fewyn, i've done the boss a total of 0 times this week.
21:55.11kd3ugh. I play too much with my *one* character. there's no way I could handle more than that
21:55.41AmarandeI think LOTRO is helping cure me of altitis, too
21:55.59AmarandeFF14 will probably have a still stronger effect, when I get to playing it
21:56.22JunkHeadi just found out that the ps4 ff14 beta starts the 22nd
21:56.28JunkHeadi mgiht check that out for a while
23:40.38fewynhttps://twitter.com/Esohead/status/434109051476381697
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