| 00:02.24 | Cair | got quiet, everyone taking a nap? |
| 00:02.38 | Cair | mmm, nap ... that's a good idea, you know? |
| 00:08.31 | Nulkris | nap is good~ |
| 00:19.44 | futrtrubl | what are the functional differences between using PLAYER_LOGOUT and PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD? |
| 00:21.31 | Nulkris | I think Player_leaving_world can fire when crossing continents/instances, whereas logout is only when you quit |
| 00:28.11 | futrtrubl | ahhh, k |
| 00:29.31 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Krirken (n=nintendo@ool-44c7662c.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:29.35 | Krirken | Hello |
| 00:30.29 | Krirken | Thats wierd, a farmer just linked an Axe of Rin'ji in Orgrimmar... |
| 00:30.40 | Krirken | But it didn't say [Axe of Rin'ji], it was just [] |
| 00:31.11 | Cair | hi Krirken |
| 00:49.01 | futrtrubl | ahh link spoofing, so fun |
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| 00:50.50 | Nomad_W|Sleep | Hey guys |
| 00:51.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | I have a question about "threadedness". If I have a message that has some core Sorting functions, and some core reply functions.. that responds to /whispers, do I have to about multiple people whispering me at the same time? |
| 00:52.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | I think I just saw a case where the person I was replying to got the wrong data, cause the reply person "Changed" when I went from one function to another |
| 00:52.51 | Nomad_Wanderer | i.e A new whisper came in while a whisper was working it's way through. |
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| 00:57.22 | Iriel | There's no 'threadedness' in the client |
| 00:57.29 | Iriel | The only way you get re-entrance would be if YOU cause it |
| 00:57.39 | Iriel | If you're processing whispers then you'll get them one at a time |
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| 00:57.52 | Nomad_Wanderer | hmm. |
| 00:57.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | okay.. |
| 00:58.57 | Nomad_Wanderer | But the situation I described, wouldn't happen? It would finish the current whisper, and the other functions being called by that whisper, before getting to the next whisper? |
| 00:59.14 | Iriel | Yes, you have to return from the event handler before the next one gets delivered |
| 01:01.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | If I have a table that is not indexed, I.e. key=value, can I erase the table like this? local unsortedTable={}; |
| 01:02.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm seeing it not go away with the above statement.. Is there a different statement I should be using? |
| 01:05.45 | Iriel | no, that creates a new local called unsortedTable with an empty value |
| 01:06.07 | Iriel | You can do unsortedTable = {} on its own, which discards the old table (to be garbage collected) and replaces it with a new one |
| 01:06.21 | Iriel | Or you can do for k in pairs(unsortedTable) unsortedTable[k]=nil; end |
| 01:06.42 | Iriel | which nils out all of the keys in the table so it's ready for use again (entries can be garbage collected, but the table itself can be re-used) |
| 01:06.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm. I may be forced into the latter. I think I have a really bad state weak referenced back into strongness. |
| 01:06.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can that happen? |
| 01:07.22 | Iriel | not really, but it can be easily not inadvertently retain a reference to something you didn't mean to |
| 01:07.33 | Iriel | especially if you 'local' lots of things |
| 01:07.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | I thought it was safe to local lots of things. |
| 01:08.16 | Nomad_Wanderer | No matter what a reloadui should change empty out everything, even strong references right? |
| 01:08.16 | Iriel | It is, generally, but if you declare the same symbol local in multiple enclosing scopes it can be easy to forget you did that |
| 01:08.27 | Nomad_Wanderer | I did do that. |
| 01:08.34 | Iriel | Yes, reload ui destroys the entire UI environment and rebuilds it from scratch |
| 01:08.48 | Iriel | though of course saved variables do get re-established |
| 01:09.38 | Iriel | if you re-declare a variable local in a new scope, you effectively shadow the old version, and can't get at it until the new scope ends |
| 01:10.16 | Nomad_Wanderer | hmm... |
| 01:10.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | okay.. thats good places to start lookings. |
| 01:10.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks. |
| 01:20.05 | futrtrubl | ~x en ge Profiles |
| 01:21.39 | Stylpe | ~emulate me |
| 01:21.41 | purl | O RLY |
| 01:22.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmmm. have you ever heard of bad data being cached for raids? |
| 01:22.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm using for i=1, GetNumRaidMembers() do |
| 01:22.41 | Iriel | what do you mean by 'bad data' ? |
| 01:22.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | name, rank, subgroup, level, class, fileName, zone, online = GetRaidRosterInfo(i); |
| 01:22.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | And I'm getting duplicate people. |
| 01:24.41 | Iriel | Hm, Blizzard's code tends to imply that you shouldn't. |
| 01:25.00 | Iriel | Are YOU maintaining a cache by raid ID? |
| 01:25.14 | Iriel | And did you remember to kill ID's higher than GetNumRaidMembers() when the raid shrinks |
| 01:25.15 | Iriel | ? |
| 01:25.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm. |
| 01:25.24 | Nomad_Wanderer | nope. |
| 01:25.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | That makes sense though.. we are forming for MC, losing and gaining people. |
| 01:35.02 | Iriel | That would be an easy thing to overlook (The shrinking raid) |
| 01:35.33 | Iriel | The blizzard code handles it by always iterating over MAX_RAID_MEMBERS, and checking if the number is below the actual number of members |
| 01:35.48 | Tain | ahhhh why does something that worked 2 days ago not work now when I haven't touched it in that time! |
| 01:37.43 | Iriel | Because you're somewhere different? or a different character? |
| 01:37.49 | Iriel | Or because you have a fresh login and not a UI reload? |
| 01:37.51 | Stylpe | Hmmmm, I think I have a new idea for an addon |
| 01:37.52 | Iriel | (Those are my usual reasons) |
| 01:39.02 | Iriel | futrtrubl: What nationality is ge ?? |
| 01:39.41 | Cair | probably german, I'd think? |
| 01:39.43 | Tain | Gorgeous |
| 01:39.49 | Tain | Nah, German is DE |
| 01:40.32 | Stylpe | What would you think about an addon that in the background constantly scans the AH, and presents you with a live view of it with lots of extended features like instant searches, live tracking, all kinds of graphs, and umm... stuff? |
| 01:41.12 | Iriel | Well, you'd have to be IN the Ah for it to work |
| 01:41.19 | Stylpe | Well sure |
| 01:41.20 | Tain | GE is the country of Georgia. |
| 01:41.26 | Iriel | So it'd be of limited utility to those who aren't auction whores |
| 01:41.31 | Iriel | but, those who are may well love it |
| 01:41.41 | Stylpe | It's supposed to be FOR auction whores =P |
| 01:41.45 | Iriel | You'd want to make sure it didn't scan TOO much, lest you aroused the wrath of slouken |
| 01:42.02 | Stylpe | It would scan constantly ^_^ |
| 01:42.15 | Stylpe | bwahahaha |
| 01:42.29 | Stylpe | *puts pinky finger up to mouth* |
| 01:42.34 | Tain | That was a funny forum question. "Why does it take so long to scan the entire auction house?" Slouken: "Because you're not supposed to." |
| 01:42.41 | Stylpe | lol |
| 01:43.09 | Iriel | Common Sense appears to be a lacking commodity these days. |
| 01:44.07 | futrtrubl | ge is the bots german 2 digit string. |
| 01:45.22 | Tain | That's silly. |
| 01:45.24 | futrtrubl | damn the Blizz forums, I can't log in again |
| 01:45.28 | Iriel | Oh.. how inconsistent of it |
| 01:46.05 | futrtrubl | ~x en de Hello |
| 01:46.18 | futrtrubl | de or ge works then |
| 01:46.26 | Iriel | ~x en ge Welcome |
| 01:46.42 | Stylpe | ~x en no Welcome |
| 01:46.49 | futrtrubl | no? |
| 01:46.50 | Stylpe | :( |
| 01:46.54 | Stylpe | norwegian |
| 01:46.58 | futrtrubl | ah |
| 01:47.14 | Iriel | So.. I'm trying to decide if 1.9 is going to be 'painful' or 'a bloodbath', from a UI perspective |
| 01:47.15 | futrtrubl | ~x en leet How are you? |
| 01:47.49 | futrtrubl | bloodbath obviousely |
| 01:48.20 | Tain | Does anyone know if you can ah.. attach a frame to the cursor? |
| 01:48.30 | futrtrubl | though I don't think the SetScale() GetScale() issue is going to be as big as it sounds |
| 01:48.59 | Iriel | Tain: You have to track it in real time, check ArcadiaLogos |
| 01:49.08 | Tain | :( |
| 01:49.12 | Iriel | It's easy |
| 01:49.16 | Iriel | Just an OnUpdate and a bit of code |
| 01:49.24 | futrtrubl | tain: you can show it at the cursor location then move it as you move the cursor. that good enough? |
| 01:49.28 | Tain | I know it's easy, I was just hoping for a single command instead. |
| 01:49.49 | Tain | Actually, would you use OnUpdate or the event CURSOR_UPDATE ? |
| 01:50.08 | Iriel | I use OnUpdate |
| 01:50.29 | Iriel | Does CURSOR_UPDATE fire when the cursor moves? |
| 01:50.33 | Iriel | Or just when it changes form? |
| 01:50.40 | Tain | I'm not sure, I just happened to see it. |
| 01:50.47 | Tain | I'm sure I could find out. |
| 01:50.48 | Nomad_Wanderer | In CTRA, how do you send global messages? |
| 01:50.57 | Nomad_Wanderer | some slash command right? |
| 01:52.17 | Iriel | Grr, pastebin is broken (or my connection to it is) |
| 01:52.27 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Krirken (n=nintendo@ool-44c7662c.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:52.32 | Krirken | Well then... |
| 01:53.13 | Krirken | So a farmer was selling items in Org, and he was selling an Axe of Rin'ji... |
| 01:53.29 | Krirken | Except when he linked it, it came out [], instead of [Axe of Rin'ji] |
| 01:53.35 | Iriel | Tain: According to the wiki: Fired when the player single-clicks terrain. This excludes doodads, NPCs and other PCs. |
| 01:53.58 | Krirken | But the linked worked normally and all that jazz |
| 01:54.17 | Iriel | The blizzard name checking code is a bit twitchy |
| 01:55.01 | Krirken | So anomalys like that show up from time to time? |
| 01:55.19 | Iriel | Well, I suspect the person SENT the empty link |
| 01:55.39 | Iriel | But the code that's supposed to validate link names doesn't seem to obey any sane laws |
| 01:55.44 | Osagasu | what all is gonna break in 1.9, anyways? :? |
| 01:55.56 | Iriel | We're not sure, that's why i'm trying to guess 8-) |
| 01:56.05 | Iriel | The scale thing will break lots of addons in strange ways |
| 01:56.24 | Iriel | but only those that try and locate themselves relatiive to other things. |
| 01:56.32 | Iriel | It will break a number of mine |
| 01:56.54 | Iriel | (Though of course, I'll update them beforehand) |
| 01:57.13 | Osagasu | Hopefully by *.20, everything will be smoothed out. ;) |
| 01:57.32 | Osagasu | I guess it would be 2.20 |
| 01:57.59 | Stylpe | They didn't make it 2.7 when D2:LoD came out |
| 02:00.17 | Osagasu | I'm jus guessin how they're gonna work it |
| 02:00.38 | Osagasu | it only makes sense to mark up the first number set for expansions when there's obviously gonna be more than one |
| 02:01.19 | Osagasu | It would also explain why betas are 0.* |
| 02:02.42 | Osagasu | I mean that's how I would do it |
| 02:03.04 | Iriel | but, all test builds are 0.X, so 2.X doesn't fit into that scheme |
| 02:04.12 | Iriel | if it was 0.X in beta, then all builds after launch were 1.X, then a 2.X expansion would make sense |
| 02:04.27 | Iriel | but since every build has a 0.X and a 1.X cycle, I just dont see 2.X as being likely |
| 02:06.43 | Osagasu | not necessarily, though. |
| 02:07.17 | Osagasu | Beta interfaces were 0.* back in OB, weren't they? |
| 02:07.38 | Osagasu | and they're 0.* now. |
| 02:07.42 | Codayus | Well, they could have 0.X patches in testing, then push them live as a 1.X and a 2.X patch, for the different versions of the client...hmmm |
| 02:08.28 | Codayus | That kind of makes sense... |
| 02:08.47 | Stylpe | But they didn't do that for Diablo 2 |
| 02:09.09 | Codayus | Was there a single patch for both LoD and normal? |
| 02:09.37 | Codayus | I can't recall how they numbered D2... |
| 02:10.26 | Stylpe | LoD came, and it was 1.7 (I think) for both. And it continued with 1.8, 1.9, 1.10 and so on for both. |
| 02:11.00 | Iriel | If they branch the client, I agree that could make sense |
| 02:11.19 | Iriel | I guess I envision it more as once client, and the expansion users get more data |
| 02:11.50 | Codayus | Hmmm, yeah, but...mm. I was sort of assuming it'd be a single client, but hat might make more sense. |
| 02:13.19 | Codayus | Bumping the major version number would be kind of cool though, because otherwise it's kind of a waste to even have it. :-) |
| 02:15.22 | Stylpe | You know, I read that as 'burping' at first |
| 02:15.44 | Codayus | .... |
| 02:15.57 | Stylpe | I think I'll go to bed >_> |
| 02:16.11 | Codayus | No, that would just be wrong. Bumping = fine. Burping = not. :-) |
| 02:16.49 | Tain | But I like burping. :( |
| 02:17.41 | Codayus | Well, yes, so do I. But version numbers? How does that even work? |
| 02:18.04 | Tain | Well, burp version 1.0 isn't very impressive. |
| 02:18.12 | Codayus | I mean, I've heard of people burping their name...I've even heard some people do it. But that strikes me as different... |
| 02:18.36 | Tain | I don't go for anything fancy like that. |
| 02:18.52 | Tain | I'm more for volume and length. |
| 02:19.29 | Tain | Aw come now, women get gas too. ;) |
| 02:20.14 | Osagasu | but yea. the first version number is major revision |
| 02:20.25 | Codayus | For the record, I would like to state that the turn this conversation took was *totally* Stylpe's fault. |
| 02:20.27 | Osagasu | if they aren't gonna bump it for EPs, then when are they? |
| 02:20.34 | Codayus | Exactly! |
| 02:21.23 | Codayus | They never did for D2, and that just seems wrong. Either the entire game should have been 2.X (as a sequel) or the expansion pack should have been... |
| 02:22.13 | Osagasu | same with TFT. |
| 02:22.37 | Osagasu | what they're saying is that the expansion packs, as big and mighty as they were... WEREN'T major revisions! |
| 02:23.16 | Iriel | It's the whole 'major addition' versus 'major change' distinction |
| 02:23.52 | Iriel | When they re-write the client in Basic and change the UI engine to be written in PostScript, then they'd have reason to up the major version number |
| 02:24.02 | Codayus | I guess bliz treats it less as a major version number, and more of a testing/live flag? I wonder how they numbered SC patches? |
| 02:24.16 | Codayus | oooh, postscript! |
| 02:24.31 | Codayus | hmmm, fair point though... |
| 02:26.11 | Osagasu | no, then they'd have reason to shoot themselves in the face. |
| 02:26.36 | Osagasu | revision means its made BETTER |
| 02:29.44 | Osagasu | which means rewriting in scratch from the newest version of whatever language they're using and updating the LUA structure to 5.1 would be a revision |
| 02:32.22 | Anduin|Zoooom | heh |
| 02:32.38 | Tain | I hope they go to Lua 5.1 |
| 02:32.45 | Tain | Even though I don't expect it anytime soon. |
| 02:33.07 | Iriel | Any particular reason now? |
| 02:33.10 | Iriel | Or just because? |
| 02:33.11 | Cair | Slouken has already said they aren't planning on it |
| 02:33.34 | Osagasu | they said they will if there are compelling reasons |
| 02:33.43 | Iriel | I've seen a few 'well that's nice' kind of features but nothing compelling |
| 02:33.45 | AnduinLothar | so compell them |
| 02:33.48 | Codayus | Oh well, maybe eventually... |
| 02:33.59 | Osagasu | about the time 5.2 is released. ;) |
| 02:34.15 | Tain | Yeah, but he did say, "Unless there's a good reason." or something similar. |
| 02:34.30 | Tain | So maybe a good reason will come up! |
| 02:34.54 | Iriel | Hoping one 'will come up' is a sign you're hoping for 5.1 for all the wrong reasons |
| 02:35.23 | Tain | No, I'm hoping for it because of the improvements in 5.1 |
| 02:35.43 | Tain | I'm hoping a good reason will come up for Blizzard to agree. |
| 02:35.47 | Iriel | which ones are those, though.. I'm curious to know what people really want |
| 02:36.24 | Tain | There are a lot of new efficiencies with tables, especially looking up info. |
| 02:36.31 | Codayus | Spoilsport! |
| 02:37.11 | Iriel | That they fixed table constructors to handle embedded nils was good, there's one thing I know i'm looking forward to, but that's not, i suspect, compelling. |
| 02:37.11 | Cair | I could tell you why, Iriel, but you wouldn't appreciate the answer ... no one in channel would :p |
| 02:37.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | I like that the Major and minor version numbers add up to 6! |
| 02:37.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thats my main reason. |
| 02:39.12 | Iriel | *pokes Cair* |
| 02:39.26 | Cair | *jumps and squeaks* |
| 02:39.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | purl, unfunny? |
| 02:40.10 | Nomad_Wanderer | Purl, unfunny is a lame attempt (usually by Nomad_Wanderer) at humor. |
| 02:40.12 | purl | Nomad_Wanderer: okay |
| 02:42.05 | Iriel | Well, I think it's time to brave the bridge traffic and make my way home |
| 02:43.31 | Iriel | Be good all, well, except Cair, who can be as naughty as she wants to be |
| 02:43.40 | Cair | Later Iriel :) |
| 02:43.57 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 02:44.11 | Osagasu | our definitions of good do not coincide. |
| 02:44.15 | AnduinLothar | cair, have u been being naughty? |
| 02:44.28 | Osagasu | You should know. |
| 02:44.34 | Cair | Not lately, unfortunately |
| 02:46.07 | AnduinLothar | unfortunately? |
| 02:46.16 | AnduinLothar | and how should _i_ know? |
| 02:46.36 | Osagasu | Because I'm an evil bastard and said so |
| 02:46.47 | Cair | Aye, unfortunately ... if I haven't been being naughty, it means I've been being good, and being good is very definitely not as much fun as being naughty |
| 02:47.04 | Cair | So the fact that I haven't been being naughty lately is unfortunate |
| 02:47.20 | AnduinLothar | in an immediately satisfying sense anyway |
| 02:47.31 | Osagasu | so I just got it over with and removed my only addon that used timex and went back to Cosmos. >.. |
| 02:47.34 | Osagasu | >.> |
| 02:47.39 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 02:47.46 | AnduinLothar | which addon? |
| 02:48.13 | Osagasu | uhm, lemme check my recycle bin |
| 02:48.38 | Osagasu | AceCombatHUD |
| 02:49.43 | Osagasu | I liked it, but it was too clunky. and you couldn't lock it into place so I'd move it accidentally every fight |
| 02:51.45 | AnduinLothar | what's it display that u liked? |
| 02:52.36 | Osagasu | My HP/Mana and my target's HP/Mana in a nice circular display |
| 02:53.07 | AnduinLothar | ah ic |
| 02:53.26 | AnduinLothar | circular hp/mana bars? |
| 02:53.51 | Osagasu | I didn't have to look all the way up at the top of my screen and I didn't have to read it, only glance at it |
| 02:53.56 | Osagasu | yea |
| 02:54.40 | AnduinLothar | well u can move your player and target frames like i have mine if u want |
| 02:55.27 | AnduinLothar | i never really liked circular cause it's harder to compare visually, but i guess if it's not raid frames it doesn't matter |
| 02:55.44 | Osagasu | I find it easier |
| 02:55.58 | Osagasu | probably from all the driving I do, my brain likes circles |
| 02:56.53 | AnduinLothar | it may be easier for glancing, i dunno. i just mean for comparing to other unit frames. so if u have 10 next to eachother it's harder to compare who has more hp at quick glance |
| 02:57.23 | Osagasu | well it only shows two people, not your entire raid |
| 02:57.41 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 02:57.59 | Osagasu | I use CT_RA for raids |
| 02:58.06 | AnduinLothar | alex was actually thinking about making circular unit frames |
| 03:07.29 | Stylpe | Insomnia sucks =( |
| 03:08.35 | AnduinLothar | nah, it's loads of fun imo |
| 03:10.57 | AnduinLothar | ack... actioneer pwned my item link clicks... bastard hooks from hell |
| 03:25.59 | Osagasu | lemme tell you something. Discord is a PITA |
| 03:26.16 | RasmusKL | PITA? |
| 03:26.22 | Cair | Pain In The Ass |
| 03:26.22 | Osagasu | Pain In The Ass |
| 03:26.42 | RasmusKL | ah |
| 03:26.47 | RasmusKL | why? |
| 03:26.57 | Cair | it's annoying to set up |
| 03:26.59 | Osagasu | I login, I get an error for a mod I don't even have installed |
| 03:27.09 | RasmusKL | lol |
| 03:29.46 | Osagasu | I was getting a DAB error in DiscordArt |
| 03:32.46 | RasmusKL | gah, grinding first aid is such a bore |
| 03:33.00 | RasmusKL | made 350 bandages from linen, just started on 250 from wool |
| 03:42.59 | AnduinLothar | ya, only the runecloth is really fun to grind |
| 03:45.37 | RasmusKL | zzz |
| 03:45.53 | RasmusKL | and now maintainance came and ruined my fun |
| 03:46.18 | rallion | lol wool is the worst. |
| 03:46.23 | rallion | by far. |
| 03:46.34 | rallion | well |
| 03:46.37 | rallion | i dunno |
| 03:46.42 | Osagasu | what server are you on Rasmus? |
| 03:46.46 | rallion | wool or mageweave...I take back the 'by far' |
| 03:46.48 | RasmusKL | Neptulon |
| 03:47.06 | RasmusKL | was on Warsong, but migrated |
| 03:47.09 | RasmusKL | it was a russian server :-P |
| 03:47.21 | RasmusKL | (EU servers ofc) |
| 03:47.25 | Osagasu | you're Russian? :P |
| 03:47.31 | RasmusKL | no, I'm danish :-P |
| 03:47.48 | Osagasu | Bah, I give up. |
| 03:47.56 | RasmusKL | hehe |
| 03:48.02 | RasmusKL | I'm in Canada now though. |
| 03:48.17 | RasmusKL | so latency can be bad some days when playing on EU servers |
| 03:48.27 | Osagasu | just get the NA localization |
| 03:48.30 | Osagasu | :P |
| 03:48.31 | RasmusKL | and doing Nefarian with 1000 ms is not really fun :-) |
| 03:48.48 | RasmusKL | well, I don't really want to throw away my char ;-) |
| 03:48.58 | Osagasu | doing Nefarian isn't fun anyways. |
| 03:49.07 | Osagasu | its watching a bunch of little bars go up and down |
| 03:49.10 | RasmusKL | the first couple of times is okay :-) |
| 03:49.31 | RasmusKL | Well, if you're lucky, you'll turn into a giraffe |
| 03:49.56 | Osagasu | o.o |
| 03:54.40 | Osagasu | ~seen slouken |
| 03:54.44 | purl | slouken <n=slouken@ip68-5-42-243.oc.oc.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowi-lounge, 7d 21h 54s ago, saying: 'only briefly. I'm drowning in chat, so I think I'm going to get some sleep. :)'. |
| 03:54.51 | Osagasu | murf. |
| 04:06.04 | futrtrubl | Osagasu, what was wrong with Discord? |
| 04:07.15 | Osagasu | I worked with it for... two hours and all I managed to do was completely screw up my interface. |
| 04:20.56 | RasmusKL | ... and all you got was this lousy t-shirt. |
| 04:22.39 | Codayus | Osagasu: Clearly user error. :-) |
| 04:22.56 | Osagasu | yea, probably ID 10 T |
| 04:24.41 | Cair | pebkac |
| 04:25.22 | Osagasu | I can still make a sim of you, Cair. Don't make me pull out the big guns. >:) |
| 04:25.35 | Cair | O.o |
| 04:28.41 | Osagasu | I could kill her off a million and one times, bring her back as a zombie, and even then have two million things left I could do to her |
| 04:28.59 | Osagasu | mmmm, zombie. |
| 04:29.16 | Cair | whatever floats your boat |
| 04:29.39 | Osagasu | meh, just call me insane so I can get on with my life. |
| 04:29.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | What kind of boat? |
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| 04:36.00 | Osagasu | WB |
| 04:36.03 | Osagasu | or not |
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| 04:52.27 | AnduinLothar | there should be a way to click an item and put it up for grp loot if ur master looter |
| 04:52.33 | AnduinLothar | for greens and stuff |
| 04:57.21 | RasmusKL | just set the loot treshhold higher :) |
| 04:57.42 | AnduinLothar | no, i mean after run |
| 04:57.46 | RasmusKL | but yes, i see what you mean :-) |
| 04:57.48 | AnduinLothar | from ur inventory |
| 04:57.49 | RasmusKL | ah |
| 04:57.53 | RasmusKL | yeh, that'd be nice. |
| 04:58.12 | AnduinLothar | i only use grp loot if there's not de'er |
| 04:58.18 | Osagasu | write an addon for it. :P |
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| 04:58.33 | AnduinLothar | ya, but then that'd req the addon to use |
| 04:58.45 | RasmusKL | and being within trade range |
| 04:58.53 | Osagasu | and hope its popular enough that the UI designers would put it in game |
| 04:58.54 | RasmusKL | easier just to use raid roller then |
| 05:00.09 | AnduinLothar | oo i have an idea |
| 05:02.43 | Iriel | Cheese in a can? It's been done. |
| 05:03.31 | krem`zz | evening all~ |
| 05:03.39 | AnduinLothar | a drop tracker that makes a list u can but check boxes next to for n or g, then next time they are linked with N or G then it'll autoroll |
| 05:05.14 | Iriel | Hm, how useful would that be in the general sense? |
| 05:05.23 | Iriel | Apart from those looking for specific raid items, that is |
| 05:05.30 | Iriel | but perhaps that's a large enough user base |
| 05:06.03 | AnduinLothar | autorolling... sounds good to me.. |
| 05:08.55 | Osagasu | I think I'll try and play KotOR... for some reason it doesn't like me. no Bioware games do... |
| 05:09.10 | Iriel | The first one? |
| 05:09.12 | Iriel | Or the 2nd? |
| 05:09.44 | Osagasu | Which one is a Bioware game? |
| 05:10.00 | Iriel | both AFAIK |
| 05:10.14 | Osagasu | only the first one. the second is Obsidian. |
| 05:10.29 | Osagasu | you can tell by the quality of the game |
| 05:10.30 | Iriel | ah, I didn't know that |
| 05:10.37 | Iriel | I haven't actually played the 2nd yet |
| 05:10.48 | rallion | they were made by the same actual people. |
| 05:10.49 | Osagasu | the second one isn't as polished |
| 05:10.54 | rallion | it was rushed as hell |
| 05:11.03 | rallion | there are plot threads that just die |
| 05:11.15 | Iriel | that's a shame |
| 05:11.17 | rallion | there's entire areas that they just never finished |
| 05:11.21 | Osagasu | people are working on mods that fix that |
| 05:11.28 | Osagasu | fix all that |
| 05:11.28 | Iriel | the first one was rather good, apart from the stupidity at the end |
| 05:11.40 | Iriel | I'm not a fan of the wave after wave of enemy 'difficulty' plan |
| 05:11.48 | rallion | i liked the second one a lot at first |
| 05:11.59 | rallion | but then....yeah... |
| 05:12.11 | Osagasu | I'm still gonna buy it when I get money |
| 05:12.24 | Osagasu | I'm getting a lot of money here soon, I can catch up on my games |
| 05:27.11 | Iriel | So many games, so little time |
| 05:37.05 | Osagasu | hehee |
| 05:37.30 | Osagasu | just over 20 minutes game time and I've already managed to get a nice red glow. |
| 05:46.16 | Cair | 1.9 Test Servers going up soon-ish |
| 05:46.24 | AnduinLothar | ish? |
| 05:46.49 | Iriel | minutes? or hours/days? |
| 05:47.10 | Cair | hours, *possibly* days |
| 05:47.11 | AnduinLothar | ish sounds like days |
| 05:49.47 | Osagasu | murf. I want my Pally Talents before I want my test servers |
| 05:51.18 | Osagasu | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=5920926&p=1&tmp=1#post5920926 <-- |
| 05:51.28 | Osagasu | Cay says *not* fake, but early draft |
| 05:55.13 | Tem | YAY! |
| 05:55.19 | Tem | We just took down Ony for the first time |
| 05:58.49 | Cair | grats |
| 06:16.46 | Iriel | I like this one: The Fiery War Axe is now in fact, Fiery. |
| 06:17.46 | Cair | heh |
| 06:18.57 | Cair | zeeg has the test server patch up at WoWGuru |
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| 06:19.17 | Iriel | How'd he pull that off!? |
| 06:19.40 | Cair | I don't know, this is zeeg we are talking about |
| 06:19.51 | Cair | I don't ask |
| 06:19.59 | Iriel | Probably made a note of the usual filename and tried it |
| 06:20.18 | Cair | I've no idea, as I said ... when it comes to zeeg, I just don't ask |
| 06:20.42 | Iriel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-test&t=92563&p=1&tmp=1#post92563 |
| 06:22.51 | Cair | http://download.wowguru.com/enUS/WoW-1.8.3.4807-to-0.9.0-enUS-patch.exe is the link to download from wowguru |
| 06:29.15 | Iriel | doesn't let me direct download via that link, but it took me to the page to grab it from, thanks! |
| 06:31.59 | Cair | welcome |
| 06:35.38 | Cair | hrmm |
| 06:35.52 | Cair | doesn't want to run for me |
| 06:36.35 | Iriel | Do you have an old WoWTest? |
| 06:37.00 | Cair | don |
| 06:37.04 | Cair | don't think so |
| 06:37.37 | Iriel | Hm, not sure then |
| 06:37.49 | Cair | nope |
| 06:38.05 | Iriel | I dont usually trust those downloads enough to run directly, whatever the source |
| 06:38.18 | Cair | *nod* |
| 06:38.19 | Iriel | I put them in the right place and have the bittorrent downloader checksum them |
| 06:38.48 | Cair | Aye, that's what I typically do as well, wasn't thinking just now when I went to run it, duh |
| 06:41.36 | Iriel | Wish they'd bring the damn ptr page online tonight while I still have time to fiddle |
| 06:43.06 | Cair | heh |
| 06:46.05 | Cair | Well, Kris said they are in the process of bringing it online, so ... |
| 06:50.48 | Iriel | You know, I think there's one bad thing about this channel |
| 06:51.17 | Cair | What's that? |
| 06:51.19 | Iriel | it's moved a lot of the 'real' content from the forum, so the ratio of crap:good has increased |
| 06:51.44 | Cair | Naw, I don't think so, not really |
| 06:52.00 | Cair | Still a lot of the forum regulars that aren't in here ... yet ... |
| 06:52.18 | Cair | Just a lot of crap on the forums lately, but they've been heading that way for a while now |
| 06:52.20 | Cair | unfortunately |
| 07:03.54 | Iriel | how big was the file you got from WoWGuru? |
| 07:03.59 | Varuthus | woah ... # Infernal and Doomguard - Increased armor 10% and damage 30% on both pets. |
| 07:04.01 | Iriel | The real patch is 126MB |
| 07:04.46 | Iriel | The good news is the 74MB of data I got from guru verified |
| 07:05.13 | Cair | Where'd you get it Iriel? That other link? |
| 07:06.02 | Iriel | yeah |
| 07:06.14 | Iriel | the blizzard link is the downloader |
| 07:07.48 | Varuthus | yes!! # Engineers with skill 250 or greater, who have completed Umi Rumplesnicker's 'Are We There Yeti?' quest line, should seek her out again in Everlook. |
| 07:08.27 | Varuthus | sorry im just picking random coolness from the notes :) |
| 07:10.40 | Cair | yeah, talked to zeeg, he fixed his patch |
| 07:14.25 | Iriel | I'm down to <2min from the 'official' downloader |
| 07:15.04 | Cair | I'm done :) |
| 07:15.07 | Iriel | They've improved it quite a bit |
| 07:15.18 | Iriel | now it has a nice little bar showing which pieces of the file you have |
| 07:18.52 | Varuthus | seems to be working a bit better also |
| 07:26.09 | Iriel | Oooh, there's an "Oceanic" tab on the realm list |
| 07:26.40 | Osagasu | yeap |
| 07:26.42 | Cair | yeah, saw that myself just now ... what would that be about? |
| 07:26.45 | kergoth | <scanlime> I'm greasy, cold, and not drinking beer |
| 07:26.45 | kergoth | <scanlime> I think all of these problems can be solved in the bathtub |
| 07:27.05 | Iriel | To help quieten those aussies who keep claiming they're being neglected, I suppose. |
| 07:27.16 | Cair | ahhhh, possible |
| 07:27.19 | Iriel | There was the worry that those who didn't read the forum wouldn't know which realms were intended for them |
| 07:27.26 | Iriel | I think this just labels them. |
| 07:27.28 | Cair | *nod* |
| 07:27.46 | Cair | makes sense |
| 07:32.09 | Iriel | Damn it, the 0.9 code breaks my XML parser |
| 07:39.28 | AnduinLothar | Open bags that are in your bank will now have a bluish background to them to allow easy differentiation between inventory bags and bank bags. :) |
| 07:40.29 | Iriel | Ah, that'd be because there's broken XML inthe file.. Whee |
| 07:44.10 | AnduinLothar | i like the new mac downloader.. p2p stats and everything.. better than most mac torrent apps |
| 07:44.50 | AnduinLothar | very cool |
| 07:47.09 | AnduinLothar | silly thing blows up when u have an old WoWTest folder btw |
| 07:47.16 | Iriel | yeah |
| 07:47.21 | Iriel | it's done that for a while |
| 07:47.54 | AnduinLothar | better than the old way with having to unpatch the game to go back tho |
| 07:50.52 | Iriel | Hm, GetInboxInvoiceInfo, wonder whatthat does |
| 07:51.20 | Iriel | ocal invoiceType, itemName, playerName, bid, buyout, deposit, consignment = GetInboxInvoiceInfo(InboxFrame.openMailID); |
| 07:51.26 | AnduinLothar | dunno but they said the auction mails now had auction stats |
| 07:51.30 | Iriel | Sounds like they've added a ton of info to the auction house stuff |
| 07:51.33 | Iriel | yeah |
| 07:51.38 | AnduinLothar | was in the notes |
| 07:51.50 | AnduinLothar | good, we dont have to parse it |
| 07:51.52 | Iriel | I must have missed that,lame really since I read them twice 8-) |
| 07:52.17 | AnduinLothar | "Auction buyers/sellers will now receive a detailed invoice of the transaction." |
| 07:52.42 | AnduinLothar | "A new option has been added to Interface options, "Sticky Targeting". When this is turned on, you will not deselect your current target when you click on empty space." |
| 07:53.00 | AnduinLothar | that's gonna f-up my target guessing for queued spells |
| 07:53.36 | Iriel | Only if it's enabled |
| 07:54.32 | Iriel | Ooh.. the exe has usage for 'GetLFGResults' and 'GetLFGTypeEntries' and 'LFGQuery' |
| 07:54.32 | AnduinLothar | doesn't matter, one more option i have to account for in a system that's already 300 lines for something that could be solved by putting 3 entries into the cast event args |
| 07:54.43 | Iriel | Not that you're bitter or anything? 8-) |
| 07:55.09 | AnduinLothar | nifty: The Friends List and Guild UI will now display when a person is AFK. |
| 07:55.37 | AnduinLothar | does that mean they added it to the friend and guild info functions? |
| 07:56.00 | AnduinLothar | be nice if we had them for all units too :P |
| 07:56.08 | Iriel | I think they're using that last 'online' field of the info function |
| 07:56.10 | Iriel | as a guess |
| 07:57.01 | Iriel | friends is: name, level, class, area, connected, status = GetFriendInfo(friendIndex); |
| 07:57.06 | AnduinLothar | mmm epic confirmation on masterlooter, should solve a lot of guild complaining to gm's |
| 07:58.09 | AnduinLothar | hmmm the messed with keybindings, i wonder if that means they also closed the hole wowplayer was using to comm with music players |
| 07:58.19 | Iriel | they did |
| 07:58.25 | Iriel | that's in my 1.9 changes thread already |
| 07:58.37 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 07:58.39 | AnduinLothar | k |
| 07:58.44 | AnduinLothar | haven't read that |
| 07:58.54 | AnduinLothar | i should be sleeping |
| 07:59.10 | AnduinLothar | Optimized UI event handling in raid situations. ??? |
| 07:59.22 | Iriel | GetGuildRosterInfo has a status argument at the end too BTW |
| 07:59.35 | AnduinLothar | i figured |
| 07:59.35 | Iriel | Slouken's been cleaning up events forever it seems |
| 08:00.05 | AnduinLothar | yay, LoadWith |
| 08:01.19 | AnduinLothar | yay for unlocalized item #'s! |
| 08:02.12 | AnduinLothar | SetTexCoord should make for some nifty new gui tricks |
| 08:02.26 | Iriel | Aye, I can't wait to finish the StatRings templates |
| 08:02.46 | AnduinLothar | Textures and FontStrings now have IsVisible() and IsShown() functions. woot |
| 08:02.57 | AnduinLothar | that will makedynamic layering easier |
| 08:03.20 | Iriel | I think the scale change is awesome too |
| 08:03.27 | Iriel | I always thought it should work that way. |
| 08:03.32 | AnduinLothar | ScrollingMessageFrame:SetFont() ooo |
| 08:03.40 | futrtrubl | can I do this in xml relativeTo="$parentCreateButton" ? |
| 08:03.49 | AnduinLothar | makes those font changing addons all that much easier |
| 08:04.05 | AnduinLothar | nope, unfortunetly i dont think that works fut |
| 08:04.14 | futrtrubl | damn |
| 08:04.15 | Iriel | futrtrubl I've never tried it, it's worth a shot. I give it a 30% change of success. |
| 08:04.21 | AnduinLothar | i've tried it |
| 08:04.35 | futrtrubl | can't test it right now, away from my normal comp |
| 08:05.03 | AnduinLothar | pretty sure it picks the parent as default and throws an framexml error |
| 08:05.16 | Iriel | I'm pretty sure you're wrong AnduinLothar |
| 08:05.22 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 08:05.27 | Iriel | Blizzard's code does relativeTo="$parentMiddle" etc all over the place |
| 08:05.50 | AnduinLothar | ?? |
| 08:05.56 | AnduinLothar | odd |
| 08:05.57 | Iriel | 358 occurrences |
| 08:06.32 | AnduinLothar | i'm nearrly possitive it didn't work.. |
| 08:06.46 | Iriel | It's possible it didn't used to, let me check an older snapshot |
| 08:07.19 | Iriel | Nah, you're just going crazy 8-) |
| 08:07.30 | Iriel | Code from a year ago has it |
| 08:07.32 | AnduinLothar | ya, cause i remember having to put a setpoint into an onload just to do that.. |
| 08:07.43 | futrtrubl | got a friend to test it, no xml errors, lua errors but that may be half finnished code |
| 08:07.59 | AnduinLothar | crazy is a possibility |
| 08:08.06 | Iriel | Blizzard do it EVERYWHERE, so i'm pretty sure it's safe |
| 08:08.18 | futrtrubl | fascinating ;'] |
| 08:08.55 | futrtrubl | as long as $parentMiddle is earlier in the xml I presume |
| 08:08.56 | AnduinLothar | hmmm, wonder if i'm thinking of another relative something or other... lemme find the code.. |
| 08:09.13 | Iriel | as long as it's declared by then, yes |
| 08:09.36 | Iriel | I still didn't totally follow Slouken's load order, but I trust him 8-) |
| 08:09.40 | AnduinLothar | ok, so are those notes ont he link identical to the patch notes for test server, anyone check? |
| 08:10.00 | Iriel | I didn't see any discrepencies |
| 08:10.08 | Iriel | But then I managed to miss the invoice comment on both |
| 08:10.19 | Iriel | so take my comment with a pinch or two of salt |
| 08:10.39 | AnduinLothar | GetFrameType, yay |
| 08:11.19 | Iriel | The addon enable/disable functions have changed arguments, that might break a few addons |
| 08:11.28 | AnduinLothar | oh? |
| 08:11.31 | AnduinLothar | to what? |
| 08:11.44 | Iriel | There's a CharacterName parameter at the start now |
| 08:12.11 | AnduinLothar | mmm, previous widescreen videos on widescreen :) |
| 08:12.20 | AnduinLothar | preview* |
| 08:12.21 | Iriel | for EnableAddOn/DisableAddOn/GetAddOnEnableState |
| 08:12.59 | Iriel | LoadBindings and SaveBindings have an argument now, but i'm not sure what it means |
| 08:14.10 | AnduinLothar | it's interesting that the undead warlock is doing prayer beads when summoning the infernal.. |
| 08:14.16 | Iriel | Aha, DEFAULT_BINDINGS, ACCOUNT_BINDINGS, CHARACTER_BINDINGS |
| 08:15.09 | AnduinLothar | nope, dont see any realms up |
| 08:15.20 | Iriel | I've checked about a dozen times and decided to give up 8-) |
| 08:15.38 | Iriel | And in fact, i'm about to go to bed, once I finish looking at one or two more things, since I do have to go to work tomorrow |
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| 08:17.45 | Iriel | Hey Tem |
| 08:17.53 | Tem | so um.. my guild killed ony for the first time today |
| 08:18.01 | Iriel | You'll be glad to know that 0.9 is downloadable so once the test servers come up you can break them! |
| 08:18.03 | Tem | I got me a safron drape for my mage |
| 08:18.10 | Tem | it is? |
| 08:18.12 | Tem | already? |
| 08:18.20 | Cair | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/files/pc/WoW-1.8.3.4807-to-0.9.0-enUS-downloader.exe |
| 08:18.21 | AnduinLothar | grats |
| 08:18.21 | Tem | SHIT! |
| 08:18.28 | AnduinLothar | no login yet tho |
| 08:18.30 | Iriel | No test servers yet |
| 08:18.35 | AnduinLothar | ;) |
| 08:18.36 | Iriel | but the patch can be downloaded and extracted |
| 08:18.43 | Tem | I'm not ready for it! |
| 08:18.51 | Tem | I'm still not caught up from 1.8 |
| 08:18.58 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 08:19.02 | Iriel | Well, you can just do it all at once! |
| 08:19.04 | AnduinLothar | well u prolly got 2 weeks |
| 08:19.34 | Tem | Well I'm in the process of a complete rewrite of my "big" mod |
| 08:19.43 | Tem | I just hope the enchanting changes don't screw me |
| 08:20.07 | Iriel | Ooh, new nvidia drivers yesterday too |
| 08:20.11 | Iriel | patches patches everywhere |
| 08:20.23 | Iriel | Now I just need Civ4 and Age of Empires 3 to hurry up and release |
| 08:20.27 | AnduinLothar | that's ok, i'm almost done writing SeaHooks to allow you to auto-debug hook conflicts |
| 08:20.28 | Iriel | (patches, that is, not the games) |
| 08:21.41 | AnduinLothar | u jsut flip on debugs and it tells you what fucntions have non-Sea hooks and which addons could have potentially made them |
| 08:22.28 | AnduinLothar | and which Sea hooks could potentially conflict with more detailed info |
| 08:22.35 | Iriel | How does it know? |
| 08:22.40 | AnduinLothar | magic ;) |
| 08:22.41 | Iriel | Or does it just detect things wihch were hooked AFTER sea? |
| 08:22.47 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 08:22.58 | Tem | how does it detect those? |
| 08:23.11 | Iriel | it can just compare the current valeu to sea's hook function |
| 08:23.11 | AnduinLothar | i told you, magic :P |
| 08:23.18 | Iriel | if sea was the 'top' of the stack, it's unmolested |
| 08:23.21 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 08:23.25 | Iriel | if it's not, then it's been hooked again |
| 08:23.29 | Iriel | or, magic. |
| 08:23.35 | AnduinLothar | :D |
| 08:23.38 | Iriel | whichever is easier to code |
| 08:23.59 | AnduinLothar | magic is more mysterious but ur way is prettier in code |
| 08:24.20 | AnduinLothar | magic always ends up looking liek ascii art |
| 08:24.20 | Iriel | I could never get the syntax right for in-code magic |
| 08:24.37 | AnduinLothar | that's where u went wrong |
| 08:24.45 | AnduinLothar | code is based on syntax |
| 08:24.51 | AnduinLothar | magic is not |
| 08:25.10 | Iriel | It was the lack of blood-sacrifice that did me in, wasn't it? |
| 08:25.15 | Iriel | I knew I should've stocked up on chickens |
| 08:25.19 | AnduinLothar | coding magic is kind of liek alchemy |
| 08:26.23 | AnduinLothar | in the end everything gets reduced to the denser particles |
| 08:26.33 | Tem | Oh I thought you meant it detected and corrected |
| 08:26.44 | AnduinLothar | no, not corrected |
| 08:26.50 | AnduinLothar | it's not _THAT_ majic |
| 08:27.28 | AnduinLothar | but if the conflicting addons are using Sea they're easier to fix from your addon |
| 08:27.56 | AnduinLothar | cause u can simply opt load them and unhook their function and add the optional code to your own function |
| 08:28.43 | AnduinLothar | course, you should also inform the other programmer, but chances are they dont care |
| 08:29.03 | Iriel | That probably depends whose code is broken, if either are |
| 08:29.18 | Iriel | If yours is, they wont care, if theirs is, they probably will |
| 08:29.36 | Iriel | I love getting legitimate bug reports, helps me fix bugs. Dead bugs are good. |
| 08:29.51 | AnduinLothar | code conflicts aren't always from bad coding, usually just coding that doesn't accoutn for things that it doesn't need to |
| 08:30.06 | Iriel | Well, I have to say, MANY of those are 'bad coding' |
| 08:30.15 | Iriel | A lack of suitable paranoia is no excuse |
| 08:30.37 | AnduinLothar | and some good programmers are anal when you come to them and ask for them to include compatibility check for your addon |
| 08:30.38 | Iriel | I will however agree there are cases where two things just wont work together by mutual design. |
| 08:31.15 | Iriel | I personally have a problem with the idea of addon specific compatibility checks, except possibly for the latter case of otherwise exclusive addons |
| 08:31.33 | AnduinLothar | me and Mugendai hook eachothers code all the time, it's like a fun challenge to see who can override more effectively |
| 08:32.47 | AnduinLothar | like VisOpts and MobileFrames. they work in perfect harmony (which is more than i can say for any of the other evil frame moving addons) btu only cause i override 4 of his hooks and account for his options |
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| 08:33.56 | AnduinLothar | can we transfer chars yet? |
| 08:34.31 | Iriel | Nope |
| 08:34.36 | Iriel | I bet not until tomorrow sometime |
| 08:34.47 | Cair | "The Character Copy feature is currently closed. Please note that character transfers are open Monday through Friday, between 3:00 AM PDT and 3:00 PM PDT. " |
| 08:35.06 | kremonte | 2.5 hrs from now? :b |
| 08:35.16 | Cair | yup, at the earliest |
| 08:36.07 | kremonte | hm, are there any kill on sight mods that work right now? |
| 08:36.27 | AnduinLothar | ya, paper and pencil |
| 08:36.32 | kremonte | ;( |
| 08:37.02 | Iriel | I think AnduinLothar meant to the test server |
| 08:37.35 | Iriel | Oh, I see that we get that on THAT link too! |
| 08:38.12 | Cair | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/service-unavailable.html?service=Character%20Copy |
| 08:38.33 | Cair | via this link: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/character-copy.html |
| 08:38.34 | Iriel | yeah, I just saw that, it looks very similar to the character move message |
| 08:38.39 | Cair | *nod* |
| 08:38.42 | Iriel | which is why I got confused, sorry 8-) |
| 08:39.03 | Iriel | Today's my 1 year WoW anniversary |
| 08:39.04 | Cair | is okay, it's late, it may have been a case of i r smrt |
| 08:39.12 | Iriel | well, of 'real wow' |
| 08:39.23 | Cair | yeah, I know what you mean |
| 08:39.32 | kremonte | zomg happy anniversary! |
| 08:39.33 | Cair | hard to believe it's been live for a year, isn't it? |
| 08:39.39 | Iriel | somewhat, yes |
| 08:39.50 | kremonte | i remember when wow first came out, everyone on ffxi gloated about how it sucked |
| 08:40.22 | AnduinLothar | it's not aniversary, i didn't get on for another 1 and a half hours |
| 08:40.26 | Iriel | I have to say I wasn't impressed by WoW until I actually PLAYED It |
| 08:40.41 | kremonte | well it's hard to gather an opinion without playing it either way :P |
| 08:40.45 | AnduinLothar | tho i played both stress tests |
| 08:41.05 | Iriel | I played part of the late beta and the stress tests also |
| 08:41.06 | AnduinLothar | stress test 1 was crazy, no one slept |
| 08:41.08 | Cair | I've actually been playing for a lot longer |
| 08:41.19 | Iriel | very much a latecomer though |
| 08:41.30 | Cair | I got in right at the end of F&F |
| 08:42.04 | Cair | my very first character was actually a mage, they didn't even have hunters in until much later |
| 08:42.33 | Cair | they were so late putting hunters in, we figured we weren't going to see them before the game went live |
| 08:43.25 | Iriel | I didn't play a hunter until retail |
| 08:43.36 | Iriel | I too started with a mage |
| 08:43.41 | Iriel | (undead) |
| 08:44.02 | kremonte | gnomes ftw |
| 08:44.18 | Iriel | gnomes are creepy |
| 08:44.25 | Iriel | though I have a couple now |
| 08:44.25 | kremonte | ./giggle |
| 08:45.14 | kremonte | all of my toons are gnomes, and i changed the robot chickens to ostriches |
| 08:45.33 | Iriel | Hm, that's scary |
| 08:45.38 | Iriel | but maybe you dont have that many characters' |
| 08:45.42 | kremonte | yes. it's very... interesting |
| 08:45.45 | Iriel | in which case, it'd be mildly less scary |
| 08:45.51 | kremonte | well, i only really have 2 toons i play |
| 08:45.53 | Iriel | _MILDLY_ |
| 08:46.02 | kremonte | but all other gnomes i see are rioding ostriches too |
| 08:46.19 | kremonte | so when all the casters are running together, it's pretty much ostrich herding |
| 08:46.21 | Iriel | I meant the all-gnome lineup, more than the ostriches |
| 08:46.32 | kremonte | haha |
| 08:46.46 | AnduinLothar | funny tho. all the girls i knew in beta and stress started out mage... |
| 08:46.50 | kremonte | well i have a warlock, mage, warrior, rogue, and 2 mules |
| 08:47.16 | Iriel | I have more or less one of everything |
| 08:47.18 | Iriel | except shaman |
| 08:47.23 | Iriel | I can't stand playing those |
| 08:47.23 | kremonte | but are they all gnomes? |
| 08:47.35 | Iriel | no, i've got a good spread of races and genders |
| 08:47.42 | Iriel | Only 2 gnomes, both mages |
| 08:47.49 | AnduinLothar | most people tend to pick the one they're most like or want to be like personality wise as their first char in my experience |
| 08:47.52 | kremonte | my only non-gnomes are my priest and druid, which aren't past 10 ;( |
| 08:48.21 | kremonte | gnome warriors rock. "who's tanking? he is! wait what? i dont see the tank!" |
| 08:48.22 | AnduinLothar | seeign as it's RP that makes sense |
| 08:48.37 | AnduinLothar | ya, my guild leader is gnome tank, it's funny |
| 08:48.54 | Iriel | oooh, Valve is going to be publishing Darwinia via Steam |
| 08:49.00 | kremonte | and of course, all in good spirit, my gentoo install runs gnome <3 |
| 08:49.05 | kremonte | darwinia? |
| 08:49.32 | Iriel | darwinia.co.uk |
| 08:50.19 | kremonte | looks interesting, but i have no money to buy the full version ;( |
| 08:50.47 | AnduinLothar | Darwinia is interesting |
| 08:51.00 | AnduinLothar | demo borde me after the first few levels tho |
| 08:51.12 | AnduinLothar | not really sure why |
| 08:51.12 | Iriel | I got it when it came out the first time, it's cool |
| 08:51.22 | Iriel | not a very 'long lived' game tho |
| 08:51.27 | AnduinLothar | nah |
| 08:51.30 | Iriel | but it's deeply charming while it lasts |
| 08:51.32 | AnduinLothar | not much replay |
| 08:51.55 | AnduinLothar | i thought AmbrosiaSW made it tho.. |
| 08:52.21 | AnduinLothar | or are we talkign about different games by the same name.. |
| 08:52.25 | AnduinLothar | prolly |
| 08:52.47 | AnduinLothar | nope, thats it |
| 08:53.00 | AnduinLothar | value do the pc port? |
| 08:53.05 | AnduinLothar | valve* |
| 08:53.50 | Iriel | No, valve are just doing online distribution |
| 08:53.58 | AnduinLothar | ah, ok |
| 08:53.58 | Iriel | I guess trying to geet a 'second coming' or something |
| 08:54.01 | AnduinLothar | http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/darwinia/ |
| 08:54.12 | kremonte | yea, same game |
| 08:54.16 | Iriel | The original retail version wasnt exactly 'huge' in the US |
| 08:54.34 | AnduinLothar | never heard anythign except from sites i vist |
| 08:54.57 | AnduinLothar | like their home page, and mac downlaod sites |
| 08:55.09 | AnduinLothar | was there ever a slashdot? |
| 08:55.16 | Iriel | Hm, did ambrosia do the mac publish in the US or something? |
| 08:55.24 | Iriel | I heard about it from slashdot, yes |
| 08:55.37 | AnduinLothar | ambrosia developed it i believe... |
| 08:55.47 | Iriel | No, Introversion developed it |
| 08:55.55 | AnduinLothar | ah, that's right |
| 08:56.11 | AnduinLothar | ya, ambrosia did mac publishing then |
| 08:56.26 | AnduinLothar | http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/22/197258&tid=210 |
| 08:57.17 | AnduinLothar | guess i was wrong again |
| 08:57.31 | AnduinLothar | bad day for me. my assumptiosn are gettign me into trouble |
| 09:01.03 | kremonte | ugh, why isn't GetItemInfo returning anything now.. |
| 09:01.17 | AnduinLothar | they changed it in 1.9 |
| 09:01.23 | AnduinLothar | but ur not talkign about that |
| 09:01.27 | kremonte | i'm sure not :( |
| 09:01.36 | kremonte | it's been broke for 12 hours now! T_T |
| 09:01.38 | AnduinLothar | it works on this end :/ sry |
| 09:01.40 | kremonte | tell me if i'm doing this right: |
| 09:01.57 | Iriel | GetItemInfo only works if it's in your local cache |
| 09:02.00 | Iriel | maybe it's passed out from it |
| 09:02.08 | kremonte | it's an item i have equipped |
| 09:02.09 | Iriel | Try opening a tooltip on the item in question |
| 09:02.12 | kremonte | item ID is item:5580:0:0:851407616 |
| 09:02.27 | kremonte | so i do local a = GetItemInfo(5580); message(a); |
| 09:02.30 | kremonte | and nothing comes up |
| 09:02.36 | kremonte | just a blank box |
| 09:03.10 | Iriel | Install DevTools and /dump it |
| 09:03.20 | kremonte | thajts how i got the item id |
| 09:03.20 | kremonte | D; |
| 09:03.21 | Iriel | are you getting blank, or are you getting nil |
| 09:03.25 | kremonte | a=nil, empty result |
| 09:03.32 | Iriel | I mean /dump GetitemInfo(5580) |
| 09:03.35 | AnduinLothar | hey iriel, u still dev'ing devtools? |
| 09:03.36 | Iriel | there's more than one return value |
| 09:03.40 | kremonte | still nil |
| 09:03.53 | Iriel | Yes, I am, though I haven't thought of anything super to add to it yet |
| 09:03.56 | kremonte | well, empty result |
| 09:04.17 | Iriel | Try /dump GetItemInfo("item:5580:0:0:851407616") |
| 09:04.21 | AnduinLothar | well alex has been absent i'm wonderign if you can absorb Fire into it |
| 09:04.29 | kremonte | empty result |
| 09:04.29 | kremonte | :( |
| 09:05.11 | AnduinLothar | Only problem is you'll have to make the tree system from scratch or imort the one from earth if you dont want a dependancy |
| 09:05.24 | kremonte | gonna remove all addons and see if it works, maybe somehow one is breaking it |
| 09:05.26 | Iriel | I'd have to play with fire (heh) and see if I like it |
| 09:05.33 | Iriel | Before you do kremonte |
| 09:05.36 | AnduinLothar | i'll send u a copy if u want |
| 09:06.16 | kremonte | WELL |
| 09:06.28 | kremonte | i just removed all my mods and did /dump GetItemInfo(5580) and it worked |
| 09:06.45 | Iriel | Oh, well, in that case, damned if I know. |
| 09:06.46 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 09:06.55 | Iriel | See if anything in there is being brilliant and hooking it |
| 09:07.00 | Iriel | badly, |
| 09:07.06 | kremonte | any way to see if something is hooking it? |
| 09:07.09 | Iriel | AnduinLothar : Is it up in the 'normal places' ? |
| 09:07.11 | kremonte | or just load them 1 at a time D; |
| 09:07.14 | Iriel | grep all your code for GetItemInfo ? |
| 09:07.30 | kremonte | eek. i haven't used grep in years |
| 09:07.44 | kremonte | *loads them one at a time like the idiot he is* |
| 09:08.12 | AnduinLothar | no, there's a dev distro of cosmos that has |
| 09:08.14 | AnduinLothar | it |
| 09:08.29 | AnduinLothar | it's pretty much abandoned |
| 09:08.34 | Iriel | I'll try and remember to ask for it next time i have some free time then AnduinLothar |
| 09:08.36 | kremonte | haha.. found out what it was |
| 09:08.42 | kremonte | now i gotta slap guillotine |
| 09:08.43 | Iriel | I almost wrote a devtools bookworm plugin for table browsing |
| 09:08.52 | Iriel | then i figured I wouldn't use it and stopped 8-) |
| 09:08.58 | AnduinLothar | http://www.cosmosui.org/index.php?p=download&f=Cosmos_Devtools.zip |
| 09:09.27 | AnduinLothar | it's default disabled so remember to enable it |
| 09:09.44 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:09.53 | AnduinLothar | req Sea and Earth |
| 09:12.30 | Iriel | I'll check it out sometime when I have a chance |
| 09:12.43 | kremonte | string length is string.len(string)? |
| 09:12.46 | Iriel | I can't promise i'll emulate it, but if it seems useful I'll give it a try |
| 09:13.02 | Iriel | kremonte : yes |
| 09:13.07 | Iriel | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#5.3 |
| 09:13.30 | kremonte | i need to get my phpyness out of my system, lol |
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| 09:16.04 | Iriel | Now I really DO need to go to sleep |
| 09:16.08 | Iriel | only an hour late - bah |
| 09:16.22 | Cair | night Iriel, sweet dreams |
| 09:16.26 | kremonte | night night Iriel |
| 09:16.48 | Iriel | see you all on the other side! |
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| 10:20.32 | kremonte | anyone alive? |
| 10:21.51 | Cair | Alive? uncertain ... still functioning? sorta/kinda |
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| 10:22.03 | Cair | wb Legorol |
| 10:22.07 | kremonte | just wanted to know how to make a mod with no xml |
| 10:22.15 | kremonte | do i just put file.lua in the toc and it loads? |
| 10:22.21 | kremonte | (all i have is some functions) |
| 10:22.30 | Cair | I do believe so |
| 10:23.52 | Cair | just remember, when it comes to this stuff, talking to me is rather useless, since i r knot smrt |
| 10:24.24 | kremonte | yeah, but i suppose it's a basic question, and i know you can't be all THAT dumb when it comes down to it :P |
| 10:24.38 | Cair | lol, wanna bet? |
| 10:25.04 | Cair | *chuckle* |
| 10:26.24 | kremonte | yay, workedf first time |
| 10:26.29 | Cair | cool |
| 10:26.31 | kremonte | i don't need lootlink anymore! |
| 10:26.36 | kremonte | *uninstalls it* |
| 10:26.54 | kremonte | hmm Cair, do you ever sleep? |
| 10:27.01 | Cair | sometimes |
| 10:27.24 | Cair | like, when the other admins at the site get mad at me and ban me from them :p |
| 10:27.31 | kremonte | :O |
| 10:27.40 | kremonte | i hope that'd be rarely.. ;) |
| 10:27.46 | Cair | heh, it's been done |
| 10:27.52 | Industrial | kremonte: you dont need loot link anyway. check out KC_ITEMS over at wowinterface.com |
| 10:28.15 | kremonte | lol Industrial, the concept in general |
| 10:28.29 | kremonte | i can just do /getlink Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker |
| 10:28.34 | kremonte | and it spits out the link :p |
| 10:28.37 | Industrial | well, i dont need a database in my game anyway :> |
| 10:28.46 | Cair | mind you at the time I'd been up for about 48 hrs straight and had a blinding migraine (full blown, worse than what I had last week) ... Dolby banned me from the sites completely, I couldn't do *anything*, to make me go sleep |
| 10:28.56 | kremonte | so if someone goes like "someone link me krol blade" i can do /getlink Krol Blade |
| 10:29.14 | Industrial | Cair: why? i dont understand |
| 10:29.22 | Cair | Why what? |
| 10:29.56 | Industrial | why do you get banned, by whoM(yeah my english gets better), etc. |
| 10:30.15 | Industrial | aren't you the big bad bad-person-banner? |
| 10:30.28 | Cair | There are other admins at the sites |
| 10:30.31 | Cair | Kudane & Dolby |
| 10:30.36 | Industrial | ok |
| 10:30.50 | Cair | Dolby banned me from the site to force me to go sleep for a while |
| 10:30.57 | Industrial | ohhh, like that |
| 10:30.58 | Industrial | heh |
| 10:31.05 | Industrial | then its ok :> |
| 10:31.09 | Cair | since I hadn't slept in over 48 hrs, during one of the really icky patches |
| 10:31.19 | Industrial | Cair: what time is it over there? |
| 10:31.32 | Cair | 5:30 am eastern standard time |
| 10:31.38 | Industrial | go to bed |
| 10:31.40 | Industrial | ;) |
| 10:31.45 | Cair | I will be shortly |
| 10:31.48 | Industrial | 11:31 here >_> |
| 10:31.59 | Industrial | *yawn* |
| 10:32.33 | kremonte | Industrial, you know anything about lua? or is this channel a wall :P |
| 10:32.45 | kremonte | wait.. i think i found my answer |
| 10:32.51 | kremonte | bah damn lua |
| 10:33.55 | Legorol | no damnation |
| 10:36.02 | Industrial | kremonte: i bet i cant help you, im just startinhg out... but hesitate not to ask, my friend! as we say in the netherlands "to not have shot, is to have missed by default!" |
| 10:36.10 | kremonte | if (string.find(iItemName, itemName)) then |
| 10:36.14 | Cair | oh UGH |
| 10:36.22 | Cair | 5-10 cm of snow on the way |
| 10:36.27 | Industrial | snow! \o/ |
| 10:36.29 | kremonte | it's saying arg 1 is nil |
| 10:36.33 | Industrial | i want snow! |
| 10:36.35 | Industrial | =( |
| 10:36.42 | kremonte | but when i do if(iItemName == itemName) it says they arent nil |
| 10:37.36 | Industrial | http://www.lua.org/pil/20.1.html |
| 10:40.13 | kremonte | i don't get it! why is it nil |
| 10:40.49 | kremonte | wait. i think it's dying in the first iteration |
| 10:40.54 | kremonte | i think i know i think i know! |
| 10:41.56 | Industrial | programming is phun ;0 |
| 10:42.31 | kremonte | YAY |
| 10:42.44 | kremonte | it WAS failing on the first iteration, because just == doesn't care if one is nil |
| 10:42.56 | kremonte | now i can do /getlink Wrath and it lists all the wrath set =D |
| 10:43.35 | Cair | Okay, sleep time beckons, night all |
| 10:43.43 | kremonte | nightnight |
| 10:44.15 | Industrial | nn Cair |
| 10:51.55 | kremonte | hmm, item cache is wierd |
| 10:52.04 | kremonte | i have never seen nemesis body piece for example and it's in my cache |
| 10:52.08 | kremonte | which isn't a bad thing i spose |
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| 11:11.22 | Industrial | morning MoonWolf |
| 11:11.45 | MoonWolf | morning |
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| 11:12.59 | Industrial | morning Stylp1 |
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| 14:45.26 | kremonte | morning again all, anyone alive? |
| 14:46.55 | rallion | yar. |
| 14:47.07 | Industrial | lo |
| 14:47.41 | kremonte | 'lo'lo |
| 14:48.17 | kremonte | 2 hours of school is too much |
| 14:49.42 | Industrial | lol |
| 14:49.43 | Industrial | lucky guy |
| 14:49.55 | kremonte | half day before turkey weekend |
| 14:49.58 | kremonte | yay for lua! |
| 14:50.07 | Industrial | i get to go to an internship to code ASP 8 hours a day 40 hours a week for 250 euro's a month |
| 14:50.18 | Industrial | for a year |
| 14:50.22 | kremonte | wth, 250euro per month? |
| 14:50.24 | kremonte | that's lame =/ |
| 14:50.27 | kremonte | and asp, that's lame! |
| 14:50.29 | Industrial | yeah, internship |
| 14:50.34 | Industrial | yeah, internship |
| 14:50.39 | Industrial | ;\ |
| 14:50.56 | Industrial | \oh and also, they don't know what OO is here |
| 14:51.11 | kremonte | haha |
| 14:51.19 | kremonte | wuts an objekt?!?! |
| 14:51.29 | Industrial | and they use Cool_VarNamen_inhetNederlands_inDutch |
| 14:51.41 | Industrial | 2 languages and 3 notations in one |
| 14:51.44 | Industrial | baaaaaaaka |
| 14:51.45 | Industrial | :| |
| 14:52.03 | Industrial | oh also, strString, arrArray, mapMap, objObject |
| 14:52.04 | kremonte | wuh |
| 14:52.06 | kremonte | you just lost me |
| 14:52.07 | Industrial | and 3 spaces indentation |
| 14:52.13 | kremonte | Cool_VarNamen_inhetNederlands_inDutch? |
| 14:52.19 | kremonte | \t FTW |
| 14:52.45 | Industrial | kremonte: local strVarNames_in_different_styles_AllInOne_in_MultipleLanguages |
| 14:53.03 | kremonte | :| |
| 14:53.18 | Industrial | and its not even .net |
| 14:53.23 | Industrial | wich is quite interesting tbh |
| 14:53.43 | Industrial | thank god its Jscript, microsofts implementation fo javascript |
| 14:53.47 | Industrial | and not vbscript |
| 14:53.58 | Industrial | brb toilet |
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| 15:21.05 | Cide | uh oh |
| 15:21.48 | Parak | So when is O RLY going to be fixed? :D |
| 15:23.30 | Cide | next version |
| 15:24.27 | Parak | yey |
| 15:25.00 | Parak | is it going to be ya rly/ no wai? :p |
| 15:26.04 | kremonte | hihi cide |
| 15:26.13 | kremonte | do you love magical trevor? just wondering |
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| 15:27.00 | Nomad_Wanderer | Howdy |
| 15:27.02 | Parak | that was...random |
| 15:27.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | Anyone familiar with args = GetItemInfo(itemID | "itemLink"); |
| 15:27.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | ? |
| 15:29.28 | kremonte | yes |
| 15:29.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | I've made an addon that handles DKP bidding... our guild also has a list of Mult-class items, and which classes should be allowed to bid.. (No warriors for the CLoth bracers :) ). I just started putting in the class specific items.. |
| 15:29.55 | Nomad_Wanderer | and realiized that the class restrictions are already in the game |
| 15:30.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | Where are they? |
| 15:30.09 | kremonte | what do you mean? |
| 15:30.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | GiantStalker is hunter only. |
| 15:30.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | Where is that? |
| 15:30.37 | kremonte | can't get that with GetItemInfo(); |
| 15:30.40 | kremonte | that has to do with the tooltip |
| 15:30.51 | Nomad_Wanderer | How about pooey |
| 15:30.58 | kremonte | pooey? lol |
| 15:31.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | How about parsing the tooltip? |
| 15:31.46 | kremonte | hm |
| 15:31.48 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is it possible? |
| 15:31.51 | kremonte | maybe |
| 15:32.15 | kremonte | gimme a sec, for chatting on irc/guild im lowest in dps lol |
| 15:32.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | What class are you? |
| 15:32.35 | kremonte | warlock |
| 15:32.51 | Nomad_Wanderer | Drop a few of those 3200 bomb thingies and keep chatting |
| 15:32.53 | kremonte | i like, cast a shadowbolt, then go afk |
| 15:32.59 | kremonte | i wish -_-" |
| 15:33.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | one of those debuffs that in 1 minute hit hard |
| 15:33.37 | kremonte | oh, curse of doom |
| 15:33.45 | kremonte | these mobs arent alive for long enough |
| 15:36.18 | Cide | hi hi kremonte (slow reply): yes |
| 15:36.29 | kremonte | yay! |
| 15:36.39 | kremonte | i made a doppelganger /ratrevor |
| 15:37.05 | Nomad_Wanderer | nothing in the wiki with the word tooltip |
| 15:37.05 | kremonte | well Nomad_Wanderer, you want like myFunction("Giantstalker's Belt"); to give you Class: Hunter? |
| 15:37.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | or even CLasses: Hunter, Warlock, Mage |
| 15:37.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | if it's a multi-class item |
| 15:37.52 | Nomad_Wanderer | Then Use our guild lua DB file for the items that dont have class restrictions. |
| 15:38.06 | kremonte | hmm, search on Item Text Functions |
| 15:38.17 | kremonte | maybe something there D: |
| 15:38.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | Talks about books ans stuff :) |
| 15:39.05 | kremonte | hrm |
| 15:39.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | I dont think thats it. I think ItemText is for those plaques and books and things |
| 15:40.03 | kremonte | i want to see what SetItemRef() is doing |
| 15:40.09 | kremonte | because thatpops up the tooltip at least |
| 15:40.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah the wiki is a little light for that funtion :) |
| 15:40.58 | kremonte | like SetItemRef("item:13490:0:0:0"); |
| 15:41.01 | kremonte | what's that doing to make it show up |
| 15:41.12 | Nomad_Wanderer | How would I find out? |
| 15:41.50 | kremonte | dont ask krem |
| 15:41.57 | kremonte | =X |
| 15:44.03 | kremonte | actually if i found that out that would be really good |
| 15:44.10 | kremonte | i could make a spell damage calculator |
| 15:44.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yay... Another motivation! |
| 15:44.43 | kremonte | my motivation is getting the hell out of ubrs |
| 15:45.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | Ah, UBRS isnt that bad. |
| 15:45.23 | kremonte | oh god. it sure can me |
| 15:45.24 | kremonte | be |
| 15:45.55 | kremonte | oh hell, im going afk until rend comes |
| 15:47.40 | kremonte | yay, i crashed my game =D |
| 15:48.09 | kremonte | did SetItemRef() with an item ID that doesn't exist, DC ftw |
| 15:48.51 | Nomad_Wanderer | You should check it for null first by doing a getItem. |
| 15:48.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | Then you won't DC |
| 15:49.41 | kremonte | checking for nil? |
| 15:49.42 | kremonte | no way |
| 15:49.56 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. your right.. checking for nill is for wimps. |
| 15:50.44 | kremonte | real men DC |
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| 15:56.09 | Tain | When you disconnect like that does it leave your character in the game for 20 sec or whatever the time out is? Or does it instantly kick your character out? |
| 15:57.12 | kremonte | Tain - 20 sec or w/e |
| 15:58.21 | Tain | Ok. |
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| 16:31.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | any luck with grabbing on to the tooltip? |
| 16:37.38 | kremonte | nope :( |
| 16:38.24 | Nomad_Wanderer | I think I'm going to post something over at the Official Interface forums.. |
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| 16:59.35 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yay another decursive thread. |
| 16:59.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | sheesh |
| 16:59.43 | Nomad_Wanderer | Purl, decursive? |
| 16:59.46 | kremonte | blessing and a curse |
| 17:00.09 | Parak | no, you use cursive for the curse part. |
| 17:00.13 | Parak | </oh the wit> |
| 17:00.19 | kremonte | har har har. |
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| 17:00.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | hehehe |
| 17:00.29 | kremonte | it's so embarassing not being able to beat pallies -_- |
| 17:00.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | 1.9 pallies or < 1.9? |
| 17:00.55 | kremonte | right now |
| 17:00.58 | kremonte | because of decursive. |
| 17:01.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | I know... |
| 17:01.10 | Nomad_Wanderer | Test server pallies or regular pallies |
| 17:01.16 | kremonte | i just said "right now" silly |
| 17:01.32 | Industrial | pallys who are 12 year old or pallys who are 30? |
| 17:01.37 | Industrial | years* |
| 17:01.41 | kremonte | age doesn't mean anything |
| 17:01.46 | Industrial | my point |
| 17:01.47 | Industrial | :p |
| 17:01.51 | kremonte | lol |
| 17:02.00 | Industrial | u cant kill a fkin lvl 12 sdhgldsfjglgsk kid |
| 17:02.03 | Industrial | err |
| 17:02.08 | Industrial | -lvl |
| 17:02.15 | Industrial | +yr old |
| 17:02.44 | kremonte | me being 14 years old doesn't make my shadowbolts get resisted :P |
| 17:02.58 | Industrial | heh |
| 17:03.45 | MoonWolf | but it should. |
| 17:04.08 | kremonte | and your name being MoonWolf should make all your spells get resisted, or swings miss when it's not nighttime :) |
| 17:04.50 | kremonte | me fighting pallies with a 60SR aura who can mash one button the whole fight while autoattacking with SoC shouldn't be an auto-loss |
| 17:05.12 | kremonte | and it is pretty much, because by the time i get them to 5% i'm OOM and they bubble and heal to full =/ |
| 17:05.41 | MoonWolf | I'll be fine with that kremonte if i get a 50% damage increase on everything at night. |
| 17:06.16 | kremonte | then when i turn 15 in a few months all my spells will be 300% damage and always crit? |
| 17:06.20 | kremonte | :P |
| 17:06.50 | MoonWolf | no |
| 17:07.04 | MoonWolf | they will get resisted slightly less. |
| 17:07.14 | MoonWolf | untill you turn 18. then all your spells act normally. |
| 17:07.22 | kremonte | i'm laughing at you =D |
| 17:07.53 | MoonWolf | that should be a parental controll feature. Gimp his chars when play time exceeded. |
| 17:08.14 | kremonte | oh yes, because i suck on my mommy's thumb because i'm sooo young /rolleyes |
| 17:27.44 | kremonte | Nomad_Wanderer - Gello responded, but he doesn't know either |
| 17:27.47 | kremonte | it's looking grim :( |
| 17:36.44 | kremonte | ! hmm |
| 17:36.48 | kremonte | i think there's a function in sea |
| 17:37.05 | kremonte | Nomad_Wanderer, you here? lol |
| 17:38.11 | pagefault | send a felhunter after pallys |
| 17:38.15 | pagefault | it makes mincemeat out of them |
| 17:38.28 | kremonte | uh |
| 17:38.40 | kremonte | pallies in my guild can 4shot my felhunter |
| 17:38.40 | pagefault | they try to heal but I spell lock them and pwn them |
| 17:38.49 | pagefault | I haven't had any problem killing them |
| 17:38.58 | kremonte | at 60 vs decursive bots? |
| 17:39.03 | pagefault | yes |
| 17:39.06 | kremonte | i spell lock them |
| 17:39.09 | kremonte | get them to 5% health |
| 17:39.16 | kremonte | they bubble heal to full kill my pet kill me |
| 17:39.20 | kremonte | and i'm OOM by then |
| 17:39.24 | pagefault | yeah so when they heal you heal yourself |
| 17:39.29 | pagefault | and then you just kill them again |
| 17:39.54 | kremonte | lol, a 2000 HP bandage isn't getting me from 1k health to 5.5k |
| 17:40.06 | kremonte | plus, repentance + HoJ |
| 17:40.15 | pagefault | drain health/death coil/health stone |
| 17:40.20 | kremonte | if i start to bandage they usually HoJ me, finish healing themselves |
| 17:40.24 | kremonte | dispel drain life |
| 17:40.36 | kremonte | 500hp isn't extraordinary, doesnt effect them durring bubble |
| 17:40.44 | kremonte | and i'm not farming MORE shards every time i duel a pally |
| 17:41.09 | pagefault | they don't seem to be a problem for me |
| 17:41.17 | kremonte | well, then again |
| 17:41.29 | kremonte | are they pallies with full epics? |
| 17:41.38 | pagefault | sometimes |
| 17:41.44 | kremonte | (and one legendary, sometimes) |
| 17:41.54 | kremonte | wait you're horde |
| 17:41.59 | kremonte | lol, that's not a duel |
| 17:42.10 | kremonte | i'm talking at where we're both best-case |
| 17:42.33 | kremonte | yer probably not gonna catch a pally with all his cooldowns up, with all str/crit gear on |
| 17:43.12 | pagefault | we are pretty much fucked in 1.9 though |
| 17:43.20 | kremonte | yep |
| 17:43.32 | kremonte | there's priest in my guild like "omg this is a great patch for you, you get shard bag" |
| 17:43.48 | kremonte | yay i get to devoid myself of 16 slots when i don't feel like hoarding shards! so much better! |
| 17:44.02 | pagefault | CoS nerf is bad |
| 17:44.10 | kremonte | horrible ;_; |
| 17:45.26 | kremonte | ha i found it |
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| 18:04.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm here just on a vendor demo tech call until 2:00pm |
| 18:05.16 | kremonte | well, i found out how to get the tooltips |
| 18:05.26 | kremonte | it's kind of a hackjob, but i found the function to scan a tooltip in Sea |
| 18:05.41 | kremonte | and you can string.gfind for Classes: and seperate the classes |
| 18:05.46 | MoonWolf | You want to scan a tooltip ? |
| 18:05.59 | MoonWolf | Should have told me. |
| 18:06.04 | kremonte | already found it |
| 18:06.13 | kremonte | was as close as a google search really |
| 18:06.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | Wait.. your jumping ahead |
| 18:06.20 | kremonte | but didn't think of scanning the tooltip till gello posted |
| 18:06.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | I would like to know about an Item's class restrictions |
| 18:06.36 | kremonte | yes |
| 18:06.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | I know the GetItem lua function does not have an argument that has that. |
| 18:06.47 | kremonte | you can SetItemRef("[Item Link]"); |
| 18:06.54 | kremonte | then Sea.wow.tooltip.scan("ItemRefTooltip"); |
| 18:07.05 | Nomad_Wanderer | we believed the only way to arrive at this was to scan the tooltip. |
| 18:07.05 | kremonte | then scan through the results for Classes: |
| 18:07.24 | kremonte | if/when you get there, can string.gfind out the class restrictions |
| 18:07.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'd [refer to not scan the tool tip if there was nother way to do this in eh api |
| 18:07.40 | kremonte | apparently there's not |
| 18:07.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | I think you are arriving at that conclusion to quickly. |
| 18:08.25 | kremonte | well gello had a pretty complicated function just to see if an item was usable, and didn't even know about that |
| 18:08.43 | kremonte | and there are no tooltip-specific functions; there's nothing in GetItemInfo either |
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| 18:33.13 | kremonte | morning Iriel |
| 18:34.34 | Iriel | morning |
| 18:36.46 | Grumpey | ello./ |
| 18:40.39 | kremonte | yay for my first reasonably useful mod |
| 18:40.46 | Iriel | Anyone else having trouble with the addon button on 0.9? |
| 18:40.55 | kremonte | i'm having trouble in1.8 :P |
| 18:41.03 | kremonte | haven't played test yet. anything different with it? |
| 18:41.06 | Iriel | We KNOW it's broken in 1.8! 8-) |
| 18:41.24 | Iriel | It's not showing up at all in 0.9. but I just noticed my addon was out of date |
| 18:41.25 | kremonte | well yeah, is there something new though? or slouken just failed again? :P |
| 18:41.45 | kremonte | oh-e. krem dunno /shrug |
| 18:43.02 | Iriel | Ugh, a new numbering scheme!!! |
| 18:43.05 | Iriel | 10900 is the new version! |
| 18:43.12 | kremonte | 10900 wth? |
| 18:43.14 | Iriel | That I guess answers the 'what's after 1.9' questoin |
| 18:43.19 | kremonte | lol |
| 18:43.21 | Iriel | 1.09.00 |
| 18:43.43 | Grumpey | *drinks a shot* |
| 18:44.10 | kremonte | Iriel, you think this is upload-worthy? http://dan-rouse.com/GetLink.lua |
| 18:44.51 | kremonte | that's just the function, i have slash command to go with it too |
| 18:45.01 | kremonte | which is pretty much /getlink searchitem |
| 18:45.15 | kremonte | (ie /getlink wrath lists you all the wrath items that's in your local cache) |
| 18:45.21 | Iriel | I'd say "yes but" |
| 18:45.33 | kremonte | but is not a good word :x |
| 18:45.43 | Iriel | you should abstract out the link finding piece into a function that other people can call |
| 18:45.57 | Iriel | i.e. that returns links, rather than outputs to chat |
| 18:46.06 | Iriel | I'm sure someone out there would use it |
| 18:46.10 | kremonte | formatted as finalLink? |
| 18:46.18 | Iriel | yes |
| 18:46.46 | kremonte | hmm now, would i be able to do result[] = anotherLink? |
| 18:46.55 | kremonte | (so i could just make an expanding array) |
| 18:46.58 | kremonte | err, table |
| 18:47.04 | Iriel | well, you have 2 choices... |
| 18:47.26 | Iriel | 1: Do it as an array, plus side - easy, minus side - creates garbage if overused. |
| 18:47.45 | Iriel | or 2: Do it as an iterator function |
| 18:47.57 | kremonte | hmm? mind going on about #2 |
| 18:47.57 | Iriel | plus side - less garbage potentially, minus side - more complex |
| 18:48.27 | Iriel | Both would create garbage tho, the iterator version would be 'neat' though 8-) |
| 18:48.44 | kremonte | what do you mean by iterator function? |
| 18:49.19 | Iriel | It's probably best covered by the LUA manual section on for loops, btu i'll give it a shor |
| 18:49.22 | Iriel | shot |
| 18:51.45 | Iriel | You have a function which returns 3 things.. |
| 18:51.46 | Grumpey | http://www.lua.org/pil/7.1.html |
| 18:51.57 | Iriel | 1) Another function (for iteration), i'll cover in a bit |
| 18:52.16 | Iriel | 2) A value to iterate over/with |
| 18:52.50 | Iriel | 3) The seed 'index' to use |
| 18:53.41 | Iriel | Then when you loop with it, for each iteratoin of the loop, the iteration function is called with the other two values, and returns the next 'index' and any values that go with that index |
| 18:54.07 | Iriel | that next index is then fed back into the function next time, etc etc etc, until you're done |
| 18:54.31 | Iriel | A more concrete example is the ipairs function |
| 18:54.38 | Iriel | or the pairs function |
| 18:55.09 | Iriel | So, pairs(someTable) returns the next function, someTable, and nil |
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| 18:55.32 | Iriel | calling next(someTable, nil) gives you the first index and value from the table |
| 18:55.35 | Iriel | etc.. |
| 18:55.45 | kremonte | would that mean you'd need a loop to access it |
| 18:55.46 | kremonte | ? |
| 18:56.30 | Iriel | yes, that's the one downside to it. |
| 18:56.48 | Iriel | For this case it might be overkill, but it would totally avoid having a 'storage table' |
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| 18:57.14 | Mondinga | hullo hullo |
| 18:57.15 | Iriel | In fact you could avoid any kind of table, possibly.. Maybe i'll try iteratorizing your function as an example 8-) |
| 18:57.29 | kremonte | well yeah, the only time i could see it used to knock down the overhead is if someone did something like /getlink the |
| 18:57.37 | kremonte | which would return like 500 items |
| 18:57.46 | kremonte | and hello hello Mondinga :) |
| 18:57.46 | Mondinga | wondering if anyone has some thoughts on http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=269235&p=1&tmp=1#post269235 |
| 18:59.00 | Iriel | Mondinga : They're equivalent once the scope that created 'local info' ends |
| 18:59.13 | kremonte | Iriel is on a roll =O |
| 18:59.36 | Mondinga | hmm ok |
| 19:01.28 | kremonte | hm, i think i may take the easy route out with this one and just return a table if there's more than one index. as i'm looking at right now in the iteration function page, the best way for someone to retrieve all the data from the function would be through a table or something anyway |
| 19:02.12 | Iriel | kremonte ; I'd make your color lookup a table reference too, for readability. |
| 19:02.37 | kremonte | k |
| 19:02.52 | Iriel | And put some local variables in! |
| 19:03.49 | kremonte | i still don't even know what local is restricted to |
| 19:04.00 | kremonte | i need some formal education on this stuff >< |
| 19:04.45 | Iriel | ah, if you declare a symbol to be local, the symbol is usable from that point until the end of whatever block created it |
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| 19:05.29 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 19:05.40 | kremonte | so if there's a local in an if, as soon as there's an end it goes poof? |
| 19:05.41 | shouryuu | ah |
| 19:05.43 | Iriel | so if you do local itemName at the top of your function, the symbol itemName can be used all the way to the end of the function |
| 19:05.46 | Iriel | yes |
| 19:05.47 | shouryuu | well im off :D |
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| 19:05.53 | kremonte | ohh, alright :D |
| 19:05.53 | kremonte | well now |
| 19:06.00 | kremonte | shouryuu had a short stay |
| 19:06.59 | Iriel | You can put them as high or low as you want.. now, in lua, it's important to note that they only mean something while your code is being parsed, the parser/compiler resolves all local variable references there and then, and when the code executes, it's actually using registers for them |
| 19:07.20 | Iriel | Which is nice because it means local variables are much faster than globals |
| 19:07.31 | kremonte | wb Cair |
| 19:07.32 | Iriel | (In addition to them not polluting the global namespace) |
| 19:08.03 | kremonte | local resultCount, resultText = 0, " results "; would work? |
| 19:08.18 | Iriel | yes |
| 19:13.54 | Iriel | I know, it's itemName you re-lower every time, instead of just doing local lowerItemName = string.lower(itemName) at the top |
| 19:14.03 | Iriel | oops, that was supposed to be a /msg 8-) |
| 19:15.27 | elema | hello folks |
| 19:15.34 | kremonte | ello |
| 19:15.44 | elema | i see nulkris is on the channel |
| 19:16.17 | elema | so i have to ask whether he has some good new skin files for his wowiudes |
| 19:16.25 | elema | or somebody other |
| 19:18.37 | Cide | scaling is way weird on PTR |
| 19:18.50 | Iriel | *grin* |
| 19:18.53 | Iriel | It just works 'properly' now |
| 19:18.59 | Cide | heh, did I miss something? |
| 19:19.00 | Iriel | See the 1.9 changes thread in the forum |
| 19:19.17 | Cide | must've missed that then |
| 19:19.38 | kremonte | i can do blankTable = {}; right? |
| 19:19.40 | Iriel | Basically FrameScale = GetParent():GetEffectiveScale() * Frame:GetScale() |
| 19:19.43 | Iriel | kremonte : yes |
| 19:19.47 | kremonte | k |
| 19:20.03 | Iriel | Except GetEffectiveScale() isn't implemented yet |
| 19:20.08 | Iriel | though it is internally |
| 19:20.17 | Cide | ah |
| 19:20.39 | Cide | that will require some modifications |
| 19:20.50 | Iriel | yes.. though in theory it makes code much cleaner |
| 19:21.01 | Cide | ya |
| 19:21.11 | Iriel | since lots of those 'UIParent:GetScale()' calls can go away |
| 19:22.23 | kremonte | and i can do myTable[] = "snuffluffagus"; to make that my next #'d key? |
| 19:22.34 | End | go away or be replaced with GetEffectiveScale()? |
| 19:23.11 | Iriel | table.isnert(myTable, "snuffluffagus") |
| 19:23.16 | kremonte | :( |
| 19:23.17 | kremonte | k |
| 19:23.21 | Iriel | End: Go away, generally your scalings are all local |
| 19:23.27 | End | hmm, I see |
| 19:23.27 | Iriel | relative to parent |
| 19:23.35 | Iriel | in which case you can just use :SetScale |
| 19:24.02 | Iriel | It's mildly confusing though 8-) |
| 19:24.28 | Iriel | It is true to say that existing calls to xyz:GetScale() will need to change to xyz:GetEffectiveScale() if you want the same value back |
| 19:24.42 | Iriel | But MOST of those calls aren't needed any more |
| 19:25.00 | Iriel | Some are, though, like if you're converting cursor positions back into frame-space |
| 19:25.24 | End | yeah, that's what like 99% of my scaling-worrying-about is |
| 19:25.37 | End | actually, probably 100% |
| 19:25.53 | Iriel | If you dont call SetScale, then just changing the function should work |
| 19:26.03 | Iriel | If you do call SetScale, then ou may be able to rid yourself of it completely |
| 19:26.33 | Iriel | Unfortunately GetEffectiveScale didn't make it into this test build, you may want to wait 8-) |
| 19:26.42 | End | yea |
| 19:27.21 | Iriel | Grr, pastebin is busted |
| 19:27.59 | End | I should probably test the rest of my code though, since finding the mouse cursor correctly isn't a core feature |
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| 19:29.29 | End | (well, I need to know which direction it moved I suppose) |
| 19:30.05 | End | anyway, bbl, gotta move the machine I'm using |
| 19:31.21 | kremonte | so, Iriel - http://dan-rouse.com/GetLink.lua look okay to you? |
| 19:37.06 | Iriel | Now to copy Iriel to the PTR |
| 19:37.06 | Osagasu | okay |
| 19:37.15 | Osagasu | so did anyone get into the test realm copy? |
| 19:37.23 | Iriel | I'm waiting on the link |
| 19:37.38 | Iriel | I created a new character just fine |
| 19:37.51 | Iriel | the cahracter copy pages seem to be present-but-slow |
| 19:37.54 | Anduin|Z-ing | There are too many people trying to use the service right now, please check back another time. |
| 19:38.20 | Iriel | ah yes, now I got that too |
| 19:39.26 | Osagasu | mmmhmm |
| 19:39.53 | Osagasu | I wonder what the minimum level for the lock shard bags are |
| 19:40.03 | elema | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.06 | kremonte | lock bags are moot imo |
| 19:40.10 | Iriel | yes elema |
| 19:40.18 | Osagasu | not really, Monte |
| 19:40.21 | kremonte | i usually dont hold 16+ shards (unless i'm doing bwl) |
| 19:40.22 | Iriel | it seems quite broken too 8-) |
| 19:40.26 | Osagasu | 20 slots and up |
| 19:40.33 | kremonte | i'm not gonna be running around with 20 shards |
| 19:41.01 | Osagasu | so you're still wasting an entire bag... |
| 19:41.11 | Iriel | well, if they follow the quiver model, an N slot shard bag should be much cheaper than an N slot regular bag |
| 19:41.12 | Osagasu | but you aren't gonna get a bag made just for the shards? |
| 19:41.47 | Iriel | so it'll be more useful to lower level locks as well |
| 19:41.58 | Osagasu | I dunno about that |
| 19:42.01 | Iriel | (Exceping those with L60 sugar daddies and sugar mommies) |
| 19:42.06 | Osagasu | the smallest recepie is sold in Gadgetzan |
| 19:42.20 | Iriel | But what's the material cost? |
| 19:42.30 | Iriel | I'd find out if I could copy myself |
| 19:43.02 | Osagasu | It's prolly gonna be a BoE item |
| 19:43.06 | Osagasu | with a minimum level |
| 19:43.08 | Osagasu | probably 30 |
| 19:43.36 | elema | hope 1.9 test for europe comes tomorrow |
| 19:43.45 | Osagasu | It sure ain't gonna be linen or wool, probably not silk... most likely mageweave or runecloth |
| 19:43.48 | elema | i will test the new if things |
| 19:44.02 | Osagasu | I wanna see this new guild interface |
| 19:44.34 | Osagasu | I wonderif the talent changes are on the test yet. >:) |
| 19:44.39 | elema | it'll crash my whole guild-if, i think |
| 19:45.00 | Osagasu | - New Spell - Tranquil Air Totem. Creates a totem that reduces the |
| 19:45.00 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.03 | Osagasu | woot! |
| 19:45.05 | Osagasu | ^_^ |
| 19:45.15 | Iriel | As far as I can tell, the guild changes are a couple of new functions, and a new return value at the end on GetGuildRosterInfo |
| 19:45.17 | Osagasu | my horde mage and priest are gonna love that |
| 19:45.48 | Osagasu | and the orc racial improvement... *purrrr* |
| 19:45.49 | Iriel | of course, if you're hooked into the existing blizzard frames you'll have to do some work |
| 19:46.20 | elema | really interesting, they write that we get these help messages on the load screen, I though they would implement it 1.8..? strange like blizz was ever ;) |
| 19:46.27 | Cide | it sucks that GameTooltip is scaled now |
| 19:46.29 | Osagasu | I don't mind hardiness being nerfed, I love the new Blood Fury |
| 19:46.33 | Cide | I can barely read it :/ |
| 19:46.52 | Iriel | So re-scale it 8-) |
| 19:46.58 | Osagasu | hehehe |
| 19:47.07 | elema | hope the new armor models are real good |
| 19:47.29 | elema | the hunter screen looked a little bit like a tank |
| 19:47.39 | Osagasu | - Slimes have been latching on to more valuable items and they will now |
| 19:47.40 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.40 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.53 | Osagasu | I think I need to go grind slimes |
| 19:47.56 | Iriel | heh |
| 19:47.58 | Iriel | I hate slimes |
| 19:48.02 | Iriel | annoying things |
| 19:48.12 | AnduinLothar | the slime quests were kinda nifty |
| 19:48.13 | Iriel | especially the self-replicating ones |
| 19:48.19 | Iriel | I did enjoy the quests |
| 19:48.28 | Iriel | largely because all the juices were different colors |
| 19:48.34 | Iriel | I dont know WHY but that made me happy |
| 19:48.42 | Osagasu | one of my buddies is dancing that they fived the civillians in PvP |
| 19:48.47 | Osagasu | *fixed |
| 19:48.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ToastTheif (i=ToastThe@24-177-151-62.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 19:48.50 | elema | http://wow-europe.com/shared/wow-com/images/underdev/patch1p9/main/ss7-thumb.jpg <-- really strange lookin |
| 19:48.54 | Osagasu | no, I mean he's ACTUALLY dancing |
| 19:48.56 | Iriel | yeah, that civ thing was a bit painful |
| 19:48.58 | Osagasu | its kinda creepy |
| 19:49.46 | kremonte | what did they do with civs in PVP? |
| 19:50.23 | Iriel | they fixed the ones that would assist non-civilians |
| 19:50.25 | elema | I want to have an ing items that increases the bag size of one bag by 4 |
| 19:50.25 | Iriel | (i.e. the ones that would cause inadvertent dishonor) |
| 19:50.34 | kremonte | aka city raids? |
| 19:50.46 | kremonte | :3 |
| 19:50.50 | kremonte | well |
| 19:50.55 | kremonte | aoeing guard spam is hard still |
| 19:51.31 | Iriel | But at least now a DK is actually your fault |
| 19:52.11 | kremonte | ya |
| 19:52.22 | kremonte | so annoying in towns to have to aoe fear and run when a civ links |
| 19:55.58 | Iriel | I like this test bug: # Players completing quests on the PTR are being disconnected and rolled back on the server. |
| 19:55.58 | Iriel | That's gotta be a real pain in the ass |
| 19:55.59 | kremonte | hah |
| 19:56.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | Best. Bug. Ever |
| 19:56.31 | Iriel | yay, character copied |
| 19:57.13 | pagefault | I love my chicken script |
| 19:57.23 | pagefault | automatically emotes /chicken when a pally puts up his sheild |
| 19:57.26 | Iriel | Cide: I'm not seeing a scaled tooltip |
| 19:57.34 | Cide | ohh |
| 19:57.40 | Cide | I'm using a tooltip mod, I guess that would do it hehe |
| 19:57.55 | kremonte | mine pwns more pagefault! /spit when an undead casts fear |
| 19:57.55 | Cide | we'll see, let me disable it |
| 19:57.55 | Iriel | oh hang on..it may be my settings |
| 19:57.59 | AnduinLothar | ya, if it reanchors it |
| 19:58.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge shouryuu (n=nicolass@29.239.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 19:58.27 | kremonte | wb shouryuu |
| 19:58.30 | pagefault | pfft |
| 19:58.35 | pagefault | not my fault that bliz made the horde kick ass :) |
| 19:58.41 | AnduinLothar | I might add a scaling option to Gymnast |
| 19:58.54 | kremonte | undead should automatically always have 1 DR on fear |
| 19:58.58 | kremonte | :P |
| 19:59.19 | pagefault | I just picked UD cuz they look cool |
| 19:59.26 | kremonte | undead casting moves too much |
| 19:59.35 | kremonte | "look at me bouncy!" |
| 19:59.36 | Iriel | I liked the UD look too |
| 20:00.45 | Iriel | Flying to gadget now to check out that bag pattern |
| 20:00.56 | pagefault | for shards? |
| 20:01.03 | shouryuu | sorry |
| 20:01.07 | shouryuu | forgot to rawr |
| 20:01.12 | shouryuu | so |
| 20:01.13 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 20:01.17 | kremonte | le gasp |
| 20:01.23 | Natasem | bouncy... that would be the NE Fems |
| 20:01.25 | shouryuu | haha |
| 20:01.39 | shouryuu | I've just passed a math exam |
| 20:01.40 | shouryuu | le bad |
| 20:02.14 | Iriel | Soul Pouch: Requires Tailoring 260 to make |
| 20:02.23 | kremonte | takes up a bag slot? |
| 20:02.27 | pagefault | hmm |
| 20:02.27 | kremonte | more info! |
| 20:02.33 | pagefault | yeah takes up a bag slot |
| 20:02.37 | Iriel | 6 bolts runecloth, 4 rugged leather, 2 ichor of undeath, 1 rune thread |
| 20:02.39 | kremonte | boo, not using it |
| 20:02.41 | pagefault | it's stupid |
| 20:02.43 | kremonte | LOL that's ridiculous |
| 20:02.49 | Iriel | Doesn't appear to have a level requirement tho |
| 20:02.53 | pagefault | the only good bag is a pattern in MC |
| 20:02.58 | pagefault | that apparently holds like 30 or something |
| 20:03.06 | kremonte | bottomless bag...? |
| 20:03.09 | kremonte | 18 slotter |
| 20:03.16 | kremonte | nothing known in-game is more than 18 slots |
| 20:03.17 | shouryuu | miam |
| 20:03.27 | pagefault | blizzard hates warlocks |
| 20:03.30 | Iriel | that one's the 20 slotter (Soul Bag) |
| 20:03.34 | Iriel | which is 4 more slots than my quiver |
| 20:03.36 | kremonte | blizzard hates whatever class you play |
| 20:03.45 | pagefault | they hate warlocks a lot though |
| 20:03.47 | kremonte | yea but you dont need 20 shards to do things X) |
| 20:03.50 | pagefault | it took them a year to come out with this bag |
| 20:03.51 | Iriel | though yes, arrows and shards are very different |
| 20:03.51 | pagefault | that sucks |
| 20:03.52 | kremonte | plus it takes so much time to farm them |
| 20:03.55 | AnduinLothar | they love pallies :) |
| 20:04.06 | pagefault | I don't get that farm shard thing |
| 20:04.06 | kremonte | if there were a shard bag that generated shards, i'd use it |
| 20:04.13 | pagefault | I never farm them and I have enough |
| 20:04.17 | pagefault | maybe it's just me? |
| 20:04.28 | kremonte | gonna copy my char to PTR |
| 20:04.30 | kremonte | and you can link me it :P |
| 20:04.33 | Iriel | no matter what you guys say, warlocks on the forums have been whining and begging for these bags for a year |
| 20:04.41 | pagefault | is the test realm up? |
| 20:04.44 | Iriel | SOMEONE somewhere will be happy |
| 20:04.45 | Iriel | yes |
| 20:04.45 | Tem | wow Ijust pulled off 15 C stack overflows at once |
| 20:04.49 | pagefault | I need to copy |
| 20:04.51 | kremonte | no, whining and begging for half a year, then they said it'd come in the next patch |
| 20:04.51 | Tem | not sure how either |
| 20:04.52 | Iriel | the char copy page is also up, sorta |
| 20:04.53 | shouryuu | haha |
| 20:05.00 | shouryuu | tem we <3 you :P |
| 20:05.00 | AnduinLothar | copy's slow as hell |
| 20:05.00 | kremonte | then the next patch... then the next patch.. then the next patch... then the next patch.. |
| 20:05.01 | Iriel | you have to reload a few times if it says its busy |
| 20:05.05 | pagefault | I am pissed |
| 20:05.10 | pagefault | 1.8 was good for warlocks |
| 20:05.14 | pagefault | then they just took everything back again |
| 20:05.19 | kremonte | yep |
| 20:05.24 | Tem | Iriel: what does a C stack overflow mean? (what causes them) |
| 20:05.24 | AnduinLothar | i just got on, reloaded for 30 min |
| 20:05.38 | pagefault | deathcoil with no cooldown |
| 20:05.43 | pagefault | :) |
| 20:05.43 | Iriel | It's USUALLY a sign you made a recursive loop in your code |
| 20:05.50 | Iriel | double-hooking is generally the problem |
| 20:05.52 | kremonte | lol pagefault, yea right |
| 20:05.53 | Iriel | but it could be other things |
| 20:05.58 | Tem | like? |
| 20:06.05 | Iriel | function X() do stuff X() end |
| 20:06.10 | Tem | I just pulled off like 15 at once |
| 20:06.14 | pagefault | soul fire is at least sort of useful now |
| 20:06.17 | pagefault | it's still a POS though |
| 20:06.21 | pagefault | my shadowbolt == soulfire dmg |
| 20:06.22 | Iriel | well, that's more impressive, i'm not sure how you would have managed that |
| 20:06.27 | kremonte | well |
| 20:06.36 | kremonte | if you go 33+ in destruction |
| 20:06.41 | kremonte | soul fire damage >>>> sb damage |
| 20:06.41 | Tem | I can't figure it out either lol |
| 20:07.07 | Iriel | it MIGHT not be your fault, but since it's you, it probably is 8-) |
| 20:07.10 | pagefault | the mana cost alone is enough for that spell |
| 20:07.12 | kremonte | lol |
| 20:07.14 | pagefault | no need for a shard |
| 20:07.21 | kremonte | soul fire? it's low mana |
| 20:07.31 | pagefault | err well cast time |
| 20:07.34 | kremonte | more dmg than SB and same-ish mana |
| 20:07.40 | Tem | I'm pretty sure in this case that I didn't do it |
| 20:07.41 | pagefault | I thought for some reason soul fire had like 600 mana |
| 20:07.46 | Iriel | It's possible it's one failure that's causing some kindo of error handling cascade |
| 20:07.52 | kremonte | well then they'd kinda need to make it like a 1k mana spell =| |
| 20:07.59 | kremonte | or nerf the damage |
| 20:08.11 | kremonte | tho, i guess the cooldown warrants it |
| 20:08.13 | pagefault | I want a trinket that makes a shard every 15 minutes or whatever |
| 20:08.15 | Tem | They were all spread out among the standard ui and mods |
| 20:08.16 | pagefault | that would be my solution |
| 20:08.17 | kremonte | so yea. boo shards |
| 20:08.30 | Tem | so, how do you get to the character transfer? |
| 20:08.34 | Iriel | Tem: Do you run any addons that hook basic underlying functions? |
| 20:08.45 | Iriel | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/ |
| 20:08.46 | kremonte | i liked my idea. 10 second cast conjur shard, 1min cooldown, that are unique (10) or (20) |
| 20:08.48 | pagefault | or some soul mastery talent |
| 20:08.51 | Tem | ah nvm I got it |
| 20:08.54 | Iriel | then click the link next to the green T |
| 20:08.59 | pagefault | that lets you get more than one shard off a drain |
| 20:09.01 | kremonte | which costs half your life and mana or something |
| 20:09.03 | Tem | I was reloading the "service unavailable" page |
| 20:09.10 | kremonte | well, my problem is i cant keep fighting |
| 20:09.15 | kremonte | i have to *go out* and farm |
| 20:09.26 | kremonte | no "omg a boe blue that's like 100 shards!" |
| 20:09.40 | pagefault | well it was awful before when we couldn't get shards off of pvp kills |
| 20:10.08 | Iriel | I have to say it's still kind of frustrating that nothing drops arrows or ammo |
| 20:10.28 | Iriel | but I suppose that's why we need to leave town with over 3000 of them |
| 20:10.48 | pagefault | you guys have a link to the test realm patch? |
| 20:10.48 | kremonte | i make a fortune off of thorium shells =D |
| 20:11.07 | kremonte | cant believe that sucker put it up on AH for 1g... /snicker |
| 20:11.12 | Iriel | wowguru has a direct download, but the blizzard p2p downloader has been updated. |
| 20:11.28 | pagefault | I wanna respec to try something :) |
| 20:11.32 | pagefault | I love that about the test realms |
| 20:11.38 | kremonte | lol. i have 2g right now, and respec is 30g :( |
| 20:11.47 | pagefault | haha |
| 20:11.50 | pagefault | well they let you copy twice |
| 20:11.55 | pagefault | so I just sell everything on my first copy |
| 20:11.59 | pagefault | and mail it to my second copy |
| 20:12.01 | pagefault | if I am short on cash |
| 20:13.30 | pagefault | well at least they reduced the mana on casting dreadsteed |
| 20:13.37 | pagefault | I was seriously considering buying a real mount |
| 20:14.43 | Osagasu | - Auction buyers/sellers will now receive a detailed invoice of the |
| 20:14.44 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.51 | Osagasu | What possible use does that have? |
| 20:14.58 | Tem | sounds like a receipt to me |
| 20:15.10 | pagefault | sounds annoying |
| 20:15.14 | Tem | I WANT MY MONEY BACK! |
| 20:15.18 | pagefault | rofl |
| 20:15.22 | Osagasu | I figured that, but reciepts are only good in economies where there are warranties |
| 20:15.31 | pagefault | this staff you sold me doesn't get me the troll women you said it would |
| 20:16.09 | Osagasu | - The Friends List and Guild UI will now display when a person is AFK. |
| 20:16.12 | Osagasu | love it |
| 20:16.16 | Osagasu | aaaaaaand |
| 20:16.20 | Osagasu | - Open bags that are in your bank will now have a bluish background to |
| 20:16.20 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.20 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.27 | Tem | ok this is really annoying... I get to tell it to copy my character then it does "standby copy in progress" but then it gives me a "too may connections" error |
| 20:16.39 | pagefault | wind0ze error |
| 20:16.43 | Osagasu | what server are we all copying to? |
| 20:16.54 | Tem | Test |
| 20:16.59 | Osagasu | which test? |
| 20:17.06 | Tem | pve public test |
| 20:17.17 | pagefault | 1 hour for patch dl for me |
| 20:17.18 | pagefault | :( |
| 20:18.40 | AnduinLothar | damn copy never works... |
| 20:19.03 | Tem | YAY! |
| 20:19.07 | Tem | I make 10 waters! |
| 20:19.10 | Osagasu | heh |
| 20:19.50 | Osagasu | - Talent improvements to buffs will persist across instance boundaries |
| 20:19.50 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.54 | kremonte | mages make 10 water eah now? |
| 20:19.58 | Osagasu | that doesn't sound like a UI improvement |
| 20:19.59 | Tem | aye |
| 20:20.03 | Osagasu | sounds like a bugfix |
| 20:20.04 | kremonte | nice |
| 20:20.45 | Osagasu | I'm copied |
| 20:20.50 | Osagasu | Daedalus is my character name |
| 20:21.35 | pagefault | whats the url to the copy page |
| 20:22.24 | Cair | https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account/character-copy.html |
| 20:22.32 | pagefault | thanks |
| 20:22.37 | Cair|afk | or http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/ptr/ |
| 20:25.51 | AnduinLothar | iWin! |
| 20:25.51 | kremonte | argh, making my code clean broke it |
| 20:26.04 | AnduinLothar | Congratulations! You've successfully copied your character Anduinlothar from Kil'Jaeden (PvP) to Public Test Realm (PvP) |
| 20:26.15 | kremonte | ally or horde? |
| 20:26.26 | AnduinLothar | ally |
| 20:26.43 | pagefault | lagged for me |
| 20:26.49 | kremonte | any idea why this wont work? http://dan-rouse.com/GetLink.lua |
| 20:27.09 | kremonte | specifically, it says in my second function that table.getn wants a table but it's nil |
| 20:27.11 | kremonte | and i dont get why its nil |
| 20:28.54 | Osagasu | so have they finished talents yet? ^_^ |
| 20:28.57 | Osagasu | :P |
| 20:29.41 | kremonte | "its a buff, it just doesnt seem like it yet cause you arent used to it!" |
| 20:30.18 | Osagasu | huh? |
| 20:30.26 | kremonte | nottin' ;p |
| 20:30.36 | kremonte | guildie said that about shard bag |
| 20:30.42 | Osagasu | hehe |
| 20:30.50 | Osagasu | well it IS a buff |
| 20:31.00 | kremonte | just a horribly, utterly useless one |
| 20:31.06 | kremonte | except for people that say its not a useless one |
| 20:31.26 | Osagasu | would you rather take up two bags with shards or just one? :P |
| 20:31.48 | kremonte | hteres never really any need to run around wth 32 shards |
| 20:31.56 | Tem | wow... they still haven't fixed the addon button disappearing when you log out |
| 20:32.04 | kergoth | doh, i hate that |
| 20:32.06 | Tain | hahah |
| 20:32.18 | Osagasu | OOOOOOOH SHIIIIIIIIIIIT |
| 20:32.29 | Osagasu | what's this new button on the addon tab? |
| 20:32.32 | Tem | seriously, how many times have they "fixed" this bug? |
| 20:33.00 | Tem | oh cool per character addon settings |
| 20:33.12 | Osagasu | that you can change between! |
| 20:34.17 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Trilian (n=Miranda@dyndsl-085-016-009-005.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 20:34.32 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Rowne (n=Wuff@81-178-107-81.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 20:34.39 | Osagasu | hey Rowne |
| 20:35.36 | Rowne | H'lo. |
| 20:35.51 | Tem | Tip: You can <Shift>Click an item to send a link to chat. |
| 20:35.53 | Tem | >< |
| 20:36.59 | kremonte | orly? |
| 20:37.05 | kremonte | :P |
| 20:37.56 | Tem | hmm netherwind crown got a stats makeover |
| 20:38.03 | Tem | more +damage |
| 20:38.05 | Tem | less int |
| 20:38.07 | Tem | more stam |
| 20:38.08 | pagefault | ya rly |
| 20:38.20 | pagefault | 4chan for the win |
| 20:38.34 | Tem | added 4 mana every 5 sec |
| 20:38.49 | Tem | less spirit |
| 20:38.54 | Tem | resistances remain unchanged |
| 20:38.56 | AnduinLothar | Oh nice, they added a 'Hide Party Interface' option in default ui |
| 20:39.21 | AnduinLothar | and an option to only show dispellable buffs |
| 20:39.35 | AnduinLothar | an an option to show only castable buffs |
| 20:40.52 | AnduinLothar | holy crap.. there are SOOOO many people in IF test realm atm |
| 20:41.09 | AnduinLothar | Iriel, u on there? |
| 20:42.19 | Iriel | I am |
| 20:42.20 | Iriel | now at least |
| 20:42.25 | shouryuu | humm what should I reroll? |
| 20:42.25 | Iriel | here, that is 8-) |
| 20:42.40 | Iriel | Hunter - Always hunter 8-) |
| 20:43.01 | Osagasu | Hey Hey Anduin |
| 20:43.19 | Osagasu | IEF is broken in test. 8) |
| 20:43.24 | shouryuu | I'm thinking of shamman or druid |
| 20:43.29 | shouryuu | don't know which one though... |
| 20:43.47 | Iriel | try both |
| 20:43.53 | Iriel | they have distintive playstyles |
| 20:44.07 | Osagasu | oh yea |
| 20:44.25 | Osagasu | Druid is the ultimate mix between Micromanagement and hybrid |
| 20:44.38 | Iriel | and shammy is really annoying unless you like it |
| 20:44.42 | Iriel | (personal opinion only) |
| 20:44.44 | Osagasu | I like all classes |
| 20:44.56 | Iriel | I like most |
| 20:45.05 | Iriel | I can't stand shaman, and I dont particularly like paladin |
| 20:45.09 | Tain | I like cheese. |
| 20:45.14 | Iriel | Cheese is good |
| 20:45.32 | Osagasu | I found out there's a hidden Aspiration in The Sims 2 |
| 20:45.36 | Osagasu | Its "Grilled Cheese" |
| 20:45.42 | Osagasu | no, really |
| 20:45.53 | kremonte | it's always been grilled cheese |
| 20:46.08 | Iriel | That's another game I couldn't get into |
| 20:47.53 | Rowne | Hm ... Sims 2 was fun for the mind-games. |
| 20:47.59 | Rowne | Create a family of neat freaks then only give them one shower. |
| 20:48.02 | Rowne | Sit back and watch the fun. |
| 20:48.34 | Iriel | It seemed to require absurd levels of micromanagement |
| 20:48.46 | Rowne | Oh, it does. |
| 20:48.50 | Osagasu | says the hunter. |
| 20:49.01 | Rowne | That's why I don't really play it, I just put people into stupid positions and watch them explode. |
| 20:49.06 | kremonte | hunter doesnt require micromanagement :P |
| 20:49.13 | Osagasu | like hell it doesn't |
| 20:49.21 | Iriel | It depends how you use your pet really |
| 20:49.29 | Rowne | I thought Hunter was like, bang spell 1, bang spell 2, bang spell 3, deaded. I win. |
| 20:50.01 | Rowne | Providing you can handle the shot spells, Hunter doesn't require any micromanagement but it is, as Iriel said, how you play it. |
| 20:50.08 | Rowne | If you play as a Hunter with a pet, it requires quite a bit. |
| 20:50.21 | Rowne | Most don't though that I've seen, oddly. |
| 20:50.30 | Iriel | but it's not what I call micromanagement, it's more 'pet management' |
| 20:50.37 | kremonte | FEED ME! |
| 20:50.40 | Iriel | micromanagement would be telling your pet exactly what to do when |
| 20:50.44 | kremonte | damn pets. <3 my demons |
| 20:51.57 | Osagasu | but nah, I play the Sims 2 as god, not as the puppetmaster. |
| 20:52.26 | Osagasu | I have tools that let me completely change my sims |
| 20:52.42 | AnduinLothar | oo, they updated my axe attack graphic |
| 20:52.51 | Tem | ~botmail for kaelten kci's seperated tooltip has issues on the test server. I'll take a look at it and get back to you |
| 20:53.49 | Tem | lol judgement looks like cloth |
| 20:54.09 | AnduinLothar | unyielding faith.. they didn't mention that tallent.. |
| 20:54.29 | AnduinLothar | fear and disorient resit 5% on first lvl |
| 20:54.33 | AnduinLothar | resist* |
| 20:55.02 | AnduinLothar | and Holy Power:increase crit chance of holy spells 1% on first lvl |
| 20:55.26 | AnduinLothar | Prot tallents look identical |
| 20:55.57 | Iriel | Molenyeux needs to re-make populus, updated for today's systems, but I suspect that's not all that interesting to him now. |
| 20:56.04 | AnduinLothar | Imp judgemnet: decreases cooldown |
| 20:56.52 | AnduinLothar | Vindication: Chance to reduce target's str and agil by 5% for 10 sec |
| 20:57.46 | Osagasu | WB |
| 20:57.46 | AnduinLothar | Eye for an Eye: ALL spell crits against you cause 15% of their damage to the caster |
| 20:57.47 | kremonte | wb cair |
| 20:57.52 | Cair | hi again |
| 20:57.58 | Osagasu | that's sucky. |
| 20:58.02 | Osagasu | I mean, for me. |
| 20:58.03 | AnduinLothar | thta's Uber |
| 20:58.18 | AnduinLothar | taht's lvl 1 too |
| 20:58.34 | Tem | shit I'm built around spell crits |
| 20:59.42 | Osagasu | all this and they still don't have the talent preview up? |
| 20:59.46 | Osagasu | that's BS |
| 20:59.50 | AnduinLothar | Pursuit of Justice: Increases movement AND mount speed by 4% doesn't stack. but that's just lvl 1 |
| 21:00.16 | AnduinLothar | lvl 2 is 8% |
| 21:00.41 | Osagasu | I think the mount increase should only be on pally mounts. :P |
| 21:00.44 | AnduinLothar | wont stack with my 17% items tho.. |
| 21:01.09 | AnduinLothar | charger is now 150 mana, warhorse 100 mana |
| 21:02.43 | Cair | oh my |
| 21:02.47 | Osagasu | I need a 60 pally. XD |
| 21:02.47 | Cair | *amused* |
| 21:02.48 | Cair | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/imageviewer.html?/community/anniversaries/,/images/year1/,8,11,http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/anniversaries/year1timeline.html |
| 21:02.56 | AnduinLothar | Eye for an Eye lvl 2 is 30% spell damage return |
| 21:03.04 | Osagasu | you didn't see that the first time around? |
| 21:03.16 | Cair | Me? no |
| 21:03.22 | kremonte | rofl cair |
| 21:03.37 | Osagasu | Priest Talent improvement had better be FUCKING UBER after the pally improvements. |
| 21:03.59 | Parak | Priests? IMPROVEMENTS?! |
| 21:04.19 | Parak | That's a good one, right there. |
| 21:04.25 | Osagasu | you try doing damage ont he holy tree. |
| 21:04.41 | Parak | I'm too busy spamming flash heal. |
| 21:04.53 | Osagasu | good for you. I'm not a heal bot. |
| 21:05.13 | Parak | Oh, so you want priest improvements in DAMAGE? :O |
| 21:05.14 | shouryuu | I am :P |
| 21:05.26 | Osagasu | I've actually had groups telling me not to heal because I'd get my ass killed |
| 21:05.31 | Osagasu | :P |
| 21:05.42 | Iriel | New priest talent: Apologise, heals 20% of all damage against foes, but reduces threat generated by 60% |
| 21:06.02 | Cair | ugh ugh ugh ugh, I *hate* winter! ugh |
| 21:06.11 | Osagasu | its not winter yet |
| 21:06.17 | shouryuu | she;s in canada |
| 21:06.21 | shouryuu | it's always winter there |
| 21:06.23 | Osagasu | no wonder.\ |
| 21:06.27 | AnduinLothar | Pursuit of Justice makes u glow while riding :-D |
| 21:06.35 | Parak | I love winter. You can get dressed up and be warm, unlike in summer where you can only take off so much and still sweat insanely. |
| 21:06.38 | Cair | yeah? then how come I'm getting up to 20 cm of snow in the next 24 hrs :p |
| 21:06.46 | Osagasu | Hey, come down to SC, its a nice 50 degrees here |
| 21:06.53 | Tem | Iriel are you serious? |
| 21:06.54 | Cair | oh bite me :p |
| 21:06.58 | kremonte | argh, found my problem |
| 21:07.01 | kremonte | lua ftl! |
| 21:07.21 | Osagasu | no Tem, he isn't. |
| 21:07.22 | Iriel | Tem: of course i'm not serious 8-) |
| 21:07.34 | Osagasu | that would be a Disc talent though. ^_ |
| 21:08.20 | Parak | Your eye...is missing there .( |
| 21:08.23 | Iriel | That would be an amusing addon tho |
| 21:08.40 | Iriel | one that apologised every time you hit something |
| 21:09.04 | Iriel | "Sorry!", "It's nothing personal", "I'll try and avoid your face' etc |
| 21:09.08 | ToastTheif | Im bored |
| 21:09.16 | Tem | lol |
| 21:09.25 | AnduinLothar | with different appologise random |
| 21:09.25 | Cair | From the looks of the patch notes so far, and what Slouken has told us ... we're gonna need 1.9 stress relief thread indeed |
| 21:09.43 | AnduinLothar | no stress relief for PALLIES! woot |
| 21:09.43 | ToastTheif | patch notes? |
| 21:09.44 | ToastTheif | where? |
| 21:09.53 | ToastTheif | and Tem, USC owns. |
| 21:10.01 | Cair | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html |
| 21:10.04 | Tem | Shut your hole |
| 21:10.07 | Iriel | I haven't been able to bring myself to install any addons there yet |
| 21:10.17 | Tem | Iriel: I just did |
| 21:10.21 | Tem | I have no problems |
| 21:10.29 | Cair | The test servers are up, ToastTheif |
| 21:10.35 | Tem | A few cosmetic problems |
| 21:10.41 | Tem | but nothing like last patch |
| 21:10.53 | ToastTheif | my computer was finally shipped today |
| 21:11.01 | Iriel | I spent some time last night perusing the code/API changes, they didn't look too bad at all |
| 21:11.12 | ToastTheif | Soul Shard Bags, are you kidding me lol |
| 21:11.19 | kremonte | more than worthless :D |
| 21:11.31 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.31 | Osagasu | Throwing Mastery |
| 21:11.31 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.34 | kremonte | my guild is telling me "omg krem this is great for warlocks", but all i see is a big nerf |
| 21:11.39 | Osagasu | yay for troll hunters |
| 21:12.06 | ToastTheif | I don't see the point to SS bags |
| 21:12.09 | Osagasu | people are saying berserking has had a nerf... |
| 21:12.20 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.20 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.20 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.20 | Osagasu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.20 | ToastTheif | I mean, they dissapear when u log off, right? |
| 21:12.20 | Osagasu | How is that a nerf? |
| 21:12.41 | Parak | such a masochistic talent |
| 21:12.43 | kremonte | no shards, ToastTheif |
| 21:12.46 | kremonte | not* |
| 21:12.48 | kremonte | stones do |
| 21:13.01 | ToastTheif | ah, I thought shards did |
| 21:13.09 | ToastTheif | I knew stones did though |
| 21:13.17 | Osagasu | they increased proc rate, added spell damage |
| 21:13.17 | kremonte | shards arent conjured... but my oh my |
| 21:13.20 | kremonte | i wish they were |
| 21:13.33 | Osagasu | oh, so it requires a small amount of mana/rage. whoopdy fucking doo. |
| 21:13.39 | Osagasu | and its shorter |
| 21:14.07 | Iriel | They should make a warlock spell that lets a party/raid member sacrifice their life for a shard |
| 21:14.17 | Osagasu | # |
| 21:14.17 | Osagasu | # Enchanters can now turn some of their dusts and shards into magical oils. These oils when applied to weapons add a temporary bonus to magical damage or mana regeneration that stacks with permanent enchantments. The lower levels of these recipes are found on normal enchanting vendors. The higher level versions are found on special vendors and are rewards for high Zandalar faction. |
| 21:14.28 | Osagasu | That's pretty cool. Cause its an item |
| 21:14.38 | Osagasu | and it stacks |
| 21:14.39 | ToastTheif | Hunters can now tame Sons of Hakkar. Sons of Hakkar are in the Wind Serpent family and will know Lightning Breath (Rank 6). |
| 21:14.43 | Tem | aye that is cool |
| 21:14.47 | ToastTheif | I think Im going to pick up my hunter again |
| 21:15.23 | ToastTheif | Gorillas can now learn Thunderstomp, an ability that causes high threat area Nature damage. |
| 21:15.28 | ToastTheif | and bears can charge |
| 21:15.32 | kremonte | o_O |
| 21:15.34 | kremonte | wow |
| 21:15.34 | Osagasu | . These blessings require twice as much mana as the single target version, as well as a reagent. Paladins can purchase these new Greater Blessing spells from their class trainers. |
| 21:15.36 | Osagasu | hehehe |
| 21:15.38 | kremonte | i got the rake for nothing =O |
| 21:15.39 | Osagasu | Reagent FTW@! |
| 21:15.40 | ToastTheif | yep, I think I will pick up my hunter again |
| 21:15.49 | Iriel | I read it as 'boars' |
| 21:15.52 | Iriel | hm |
| 21:16.41 | Cair | Boars can charge |
| 21:16.45 | Cair | not Bears |
| 21:16.48 | Tem | Tip: You can perform many fun actions with the emote system, for instance, you can type /dance to dance. |
| 21:16.54 | kremonte | YAY! |
| 21:17.05 | Osagasu | Gorillas can now learn Thunderstomp, an ability that causes high threat area Nature damage. |
| 21:17.10 | Osagasu | wewt |
| 21:17.20 | ToastTheif | # |
| 21:17.20 | ToastTheif | # Schools of fish have appeared around the world that can be fished from a few times before being fished out. These schools tend to contain valuable fish types such as Oily Blackmouth or Firefin |
| 21:17.27 | Tem | I'm really happy about that |
| 21:17.36 | Parak | I'm more interested in sage fish |
| 21:17.47 | Osagasu | Toast, they're going to do that for all fish eventually |
| 21:17.48 | kremonte | cast mounts are 150mana now i heard |
| 21:17.50 | kremonte | if so thats GREAT |
| 21:18.04 | ToastTheif | how is that great |
| 21:18.15 | Osagasu | Divine Protection, Divine Shield and Blessing of Protection - Targets of these spells will now receive the "Recently Shielded" effect, preventing another of these three spells from being applied to that target for one minute. |
| 21:18.18 | ToastTheif | In some places, wreckage can be fished from for even better rewards. |
| 21:18.19 | Osagasu | HAHAHA WEWT! |
| 21:18.36 | Osagasu | EAT THAT 4 LIVES! |
| 21:19.02 | ToastTheif | Old quests have been revised, and several new quests involving the Timbermaw Furbolgs have been added. <3 the Timbernaw |
| 21:19.49 | Osagasu | #WoWI-lounge The Seal of Wrynn, Nogg's Gold Ring, and Talvash's Gold Ring have been improved to be superior items. |
| 21:19.54 | Osagasu | o.O |
| 21:20.03 | ToastTheif | The Guild UI has been significantly improved |
| 21:20.03 | Osagasu | where'd the channel thing come fro,? |
| 21:20.14 | ToastTheif | lol |
| 21:20.19 | MoonWolf | Is there a way to find out if someone in my guild has an alt in the same guild without asking him ? |
| 21:20.28 | Iriel | MoonWolf : No |
| 21:20.39 | Iriel | Well, you COULD kick him from the guild |
| 21:20.44 | kremonte | YAY. i got my /getlink working again |
| 21:20.45 | Cair | Just me messing with your mind, Osagasu |
| 21:20.46 | Iriel | and see if the account count goes down on guildinfo |
| 21:20.51 | ToastTheif | Options have been added that allow raiders to not display their base party UI when the Raid UI is up. |
| 21:20.56 | Iriel | but that might be a bit too 'invasive' |
| 21:21.00 | MoonWolf | Yeah. |
| 21:21.09 | kremonte | Iriel - problem was, in the colors array, i was doing ["1"] etc as opposed to [1], and 1 ~= "1" |
| 21:21.21 | Iriel | kremonte : heh, oops 8-) |
| 21:21.36 | ToastTheif | Auction buyers/sellers will now receive a detailed invoice of the transaction. w00t |
| 21:21.37 | Tem | holy lag batman! |
| 21:21.41 | Osagasu | Under Video Options there is now a slider to control the detail of spell effects. Lower settings can help to improve performance. |
| 21:21.42 | Osagasu | yay |
| 21:21.49 | MoonWolf | I known its someone, but i don't know who.... arg. |
| 21:22.01 | ToastTheif | A new option has been added to Interface options, "Sticky Targeting". Score! |
| 21:22.29 | Osagasu | I love that one |
| 21:22.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Stylpe (n=Stylpe@15.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:22.58 | Tem | I don't see myself using sticky targeting |
| 21:23.15 | ToastTheif | I love the per char add-ons/macros/keybindings. |
| 21:23.39 | Osagasu | you know |
| 21:24.01 | Osagasu | all these things throughout are said to be "bug fixes" but they aren't listed under the Bug Fix section |
| 21:24.05 | ToastTheif | # Optimized UI event handling in raid situations. |
| 21:24.05 | ToastTheif | # Optimized UI layout engine to improve loading times. |
| 21:24.13 | kremonte | yay, ctra in bwl now |
| 21:24.40 | ToastTheif | New TOC entry for dynamically loadable add-ons: ## LoadWith: Addon1, Addon2, etc. - Indicates that your add-on should be automatically loaded after ANY of the add-ons specified on the LoadWith line are loaded. |
| 21:24.42 | ToastTheif | that one is nice |
| 21:24.55 | kremonte | hm, would /link be too "common" of a slash command name to use? |
| 21:25.08 | Cair | lol, ya think? |
| 21:25.13 | ToastTheif | Added ScrollingMessageFrame:SetFont() |
| 21:25.16 | kremonte | krem dunno |
| 21:25.17 | Osagasu | I like how the Interface UI has been split into tabs |
| 21:25.29 | kremonte | ./link is easy for me to use D: |
| 21:25.51 | Iriel | I dont like how they did the extra bar buttons ON those tabs tho |
| 21:26.26 | Osagasu | Aspect of the Pack and Aspect of the Cheetah - Periodic damage will no longer trigger the Dazed effect. |
| 21:26.29 | Osagasu | OH HELL YES |
| 21:27.26 | ToastTheif | score |
| 21:27.40 | ToastTheif | I vote I use my 55 Tauren Hunter again |
| 21:28.41 | ToastTheif | to the general forums to watch the noobies complain! |
| 21:29.02 | ToastTheif | "ZOMG HUNTERS DIDN"T GET NERFEED!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!" |
| 21:29.16 | Osagasu | no, one of their skills got a buff |
| 21:29.55 | ToastTheif | only in this patch that I dislike is * Players should no longer be able to walk on steep terrain. |
| 21:30.28 | ToastTheif | patch note that I dislike* |
| 21:30.39 | Iriel | Well, in fairness to blizzard, they could probably have added "* Players are still too stupid to not complain when they get banned for going somewhere they've been repeatedly asked not to." |
| 21:30.42 | Tem | I'm worried about getting on the ledges for ony about that |
| 21:31.47 | ToastTheif | by far my favorite thing is linked AHs |
| 21:32.04 | ToastTheif | means even less lag! yay |
| 21:32.22 | Tain | I would like it better if they just made it a little more obvious where you're supposed to be able to climb slopes normally. |
| 21:32.40 | ToastTheif | I can now listen to my iPod Video while browsing the Auction House in TB on my new computer |
| 21:32.44 | ToastTheif | mhmm, Im happy |
| 21:32.59 | Tain | I climb up hills that look barely different than ones you can't climb. |
| 21:33.06 | Iriel | I need to go to Darnassus and figure out where they put the AH |
| 21:33.11 | ToastTheif | I bet Rowne will be pissed |
| 21:33.19 | ToastTheif | I don't think he can "Hoof" anymore |
| 21:33.27 | Tain | That's exactly what it is, Toast. |
| 21:33.35 | Tain | I'm glad there's an AH in Booty Bay. |
| 21:33.38 | ToastTheif | hmm |
| 21:33.44 | ToastTheif | Banu is still underneath Org |
| 21:33.49 | ToastTheif | Rowne left him there =P |
| 21:33.59 | Tem | the one in Darn is in a bad spot |
| 21:34.02 | Tem | it's ugly too |
| 21:34.10 | Tem | I'm disappointed |
| 21:34.31 | Tem | Tip: you can right-click on a benficial spell that s been cast on you to dismiss it. |
| 21:34.38 | ToastTheif | I wanna see the one in TB ^^ |
| 21:34.46 | ToastTheif | rofl |
| 21:34.50 | ToastTheif | these tips are dumb |
| 21:35.00 | Iriel | The tips are for n00bs |
| 21:35.02 | Iriel | not for you folks |
| 21:35.28 | Iriel | I need them to add "Read the FAQs before posting on the forums or we'll ban your account" |
| 21:36.00 | shouryuu | lol |
| 21:36.28 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Stylpe (n=Stylpe@15.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:37.01 | shouryuu | I've just met the dumbest dictionary in the world |
| 21:37.23 | shouryuu | i ask deprivation, he answer the act of being deprived |
| 21:37.46 | shouryuu | I check deprived and I get " Marked by deprivation" 0_o |
| 21:38.09 | Iriel | That's a fundamental problem with dictionaries though, theer has to be SOME assumed knowledge of the language |
| 21:39.07 | Tem | Iriel I'm willing to bet that we can customize those tips |
| 21:39.22 | shouryuu | and get 15 c stack overflows? |
| 21:39.30 | kremonte | dictionary definition of happy- :) |
| 21:39.36 | kremonte | no implied language knowledge! |
| 21:39.44 | Tem | I'd guess those tips are stored in a SV that we can change |
| 21:39.52 | Tem | which would be awesome for my guild |
| 21:40.06 | Tem | because the tip could say "Check the guild forums you noob" |
| 21:40.32 | ToastTheif | lol @ Tem |
| 21:40.34 | Iriel | I dont know, I cant find 'beneficial' anywhere in the 0.9 code |
| 21:42.00 | ToastTheif | somone help this kid out and link him to ChatScroll ^^ |
| 21:42.00 | ToastTheif | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=269153&p=1&tmp=1#post269153 |
| 21:42.57 | Cair | done |
| 21:45.58 | ToastTheif | ;) |
| 21:46.00 | shouryuu | cair how good a Uni is McGill? |
| 21:46.08 | Cair | Very |
| 21:46.27 | shouryuu | and do you know HEC montreal? |
| 21:46.33 | cladhaire | Evening all |
| 21:46.38 | Cair | hey cladhaire |
| 21:46.46 | Cair | Not off the top of my head shouryuu, sorry |
| 21:47.03 | Tem | wow the brain trust showed up to help me find my addon button |
| 21:47.04 | shouryuu | I forgive you :P |
| 21:48.05 | Tem | Iriel: do you wanna extract the glue to look for those tips, or shall I? |
| 21:48.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge RasmusKL (i=RasmusKL@wnpgmb09dc1-119-107.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 21:48.26 | Iriel | I may as well, I need to download the working WinMPQ anyway |
| 21:48.57 | shouryuu | but if you were to change the tips you |
| 21:49.10 | shouryuu | 'd have to have everyonne get your add-on right |
| 21:49.31 | Tem | yeah |
| 21:49.39 | shouryuu | btw everyone, Microsoft Word corrects addon,AddOn or add on as an add-on... |
| 21:49.57 | kremonte | MS word? ew |
| 21:50.00 | Tem | Microsoft word can take it's auto-correct and shove it |
| 21:50.01 | kremonte | notepad FTW |
| 21:50.06 | Industrial | notepad!?! |
| 21:50.09 | Iriel | My brain corrects AddOn to Addon all the time, and I have to go put it back |
| 21:50.11 | Industrial | vim.org |
| 21:50.12 | Industrial | ! |
| 21:50.14 | shouryuu | lol |
| 21:50.22 | shouryuu | I use add-on now |
| 21:50.40 | Tem | It will always and forever be "Addon" in my head |
| 21:50.49 | Iriel | Well, that doesn't work when you start using the API calls |
| 21:50.52 | Industrial | im confusing add-on AddOn Addon Extension and Module |
| 21:50.54 | Industrial | :P |
| 21:51.05 | Tem | yeah well |
| 21:51.07 | kremonte | where do i submit an addon |
| 21:51.07 | kremonte | :( |
| 21:51.08 | Tem | I don't use those |
| 21:51.16 | shouryuu | I don't know what they are sooooo |
| 21:51.19 | Iriel | www.wowinterface.com |
| 21:51.29 | kremonte | cant find where on it :| |
| 21:51.31 | Iriel | The lovely Cair can assist you if you run afoul of any difficulties, i'm sure |
| 21:51.33 | kremonte | wait! found it |
| 21:51.35 | Tem | Wow dragonstalker looks as silly as I thought it did |
| 21:51.38 | Industrial | kremonte: vim.org never ever use notepad |
| 21:51.38 | Cair | what is the mod kremonte? |
| 21:51.43 | kremonte | notepad FTW |
| 21:51.45 | Cair | ie, what does it do? |
| 21:51.49 | Industrial | vim < IDE even, exept for java. |
| 21:51.53 | Industrial | >* |
| 21:51.58 | kremonte | gives you a link or links of items you search for |
| 21:52.15 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/index.php?cid=27&dp=0&sh=full&so=desc&sb=lastupdate |
| 21:52.17 | kremonte | ie /getlink nemesis lists the whole nemesis set linked in me chat frame |
| 21:52.26 | Cair | There is an "upload interface" button on the page |
| 21:52.29 | kremonte | wow, i didn't see that button |
| 21:52.34 | kremonte | sweet jesus i'm blind |
| 21:52.50 | Cair | yeah, we're pretty sneaky that way, putting the button right where it's easy to find |
| 21:53.04 | Industrial | hehe |
| 21:53.13 | kremonte | easy to find? what shenanigans |
| 21:53.57 | Cair | I mean, the whole concept of going to the category where your mod belongs and then uploading it to that category ... the nerve of some people, I tell ya! |
| 21:55.01 | Industrial | heh ^^ |
| 21:55.09 | kremonte | i'm blind deaf and really really dumb |
| 21:55.29 | Cair | *chuckle* |
| 21:55.57 | Tem | kremonte: where does it get the links? |
| 21:56.03 | kremonte | item cache |
| 21:56.08 | kremonte | which seems to be really big |
| 21:56.13 | kremonte | so /shrug |
| 21:56.28 | shouryuu | Cette fille est trop villaine il me la faut! |
| 21:57.14 | Cair | btw Tem & Iriel ... Slouken is out most of the day, so he likely won't see your thread until later on |
| 21:57.23 | kremonte | shouryuu, pourquoi est-tu un priest troll? |
| 21:57.27 | Tem | well poop |
| 21:57.33 | kremonte | troll priest? priest troll? |
| 21:57.36 | Tem | O well I'll have to cair bump it |
| 21:57.48 | Cair | >< |
| 21:58.27 | pagefault | why are you a troll priest? |
| 21:58.38 | shouryuu | lol |
| 21:58.42 | shouryuu | le troll |
| 21:59.08 | shouryuu | haha cair bump it |
| 21:59.10 | shouryuu | beautiful |
| 22:00.05 | Iriel | Now to go see if the new SetTexCoord works |
| 22:00.14 | Tem | oh wow the new enchanting links are cool |
| 22:00.42 | Industrial | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Mm6eiq14.html |
| 22:00.43 | Industrial | =( |
| 22:01.01 | Industrial | line 20 |
| 22:01.04 | Industrial | then line 68 |
| 22:01.11 | pagefault | I am going to roll an undead priest I think |
| 22:01.17 | pagefault | but I need to figure out a good name for him/her |
| 22:01.29 | shouryuu | Souhei |
| 22:01.31 | Industrial | graveworm |
| 22:01.43 | kremonte | Cair, mod submitted |
| 22:01.44 | Tain | Sunshine |
| 22:01.46 | shouryuu | it's a boudhist priest which took arms in order to defent the poor. How cool is that! |
| 22:01.50 | Industrial | i have an undead named graveworm ;) |
| 22:01.59 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:02.12 | Industrial | wich is by coincidence also a band name |
| 22:02.14 | Cair | approved |
| 22:02.23 | Industrial | you can guess what music they make,.. |
| 22:02.25 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:02.34 | Tain | Bluegrass? |
| 22:02.38 | Industrial | lmao |
| 22:02.39 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:02.57 | Industrial | anyway, can anyone helop me on the lua issue? =( |
| 22:03.13 | shouryuu | hit us with it |
| 22:03.32 | Tem | oh cool mounts make sounds |
| 22:04.04 | Iriel | is it a LUA issue or an ACE issue? |
| 22:04.13 | Industrial | basically, it doesnt matter its ace |
| 22:04.32 | Cair | kremonte: make a thread in the released forum for folks to give you feedback, bug reports, etc |
| 22:04.36 | Industrial | its just an object with a constructor and a destructor, look at it like that |
| 22:04.41 | Iriel | So when you do the hook without ace it works perfectly? |
| 22:04.43 | shouryuu | Oniwakamaru is the name of my next char |
| 22:04.47 | Industrial | Iriel: no idea |
| 22:04.48 | kremonte | k |
| 22:04.55 | Iriel | then it might be an ACE issue 8-) |
| 22:05.04 | Industrial | Iriel: lol... :| |
| 22:05.18 | shouryuu | Young devil child! |
| 22:05.19 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 22:05.28 | Industrial | Iriel: it might also be some bum's fault.. hwo knows! |
| 22:05.49 | Iriel | true, but I dont see SomeBum:Hook called anywhere' |
| 22:05.51 | shouryuu | well you guys don't look in much of a rawring mood |
| 22:05.54 | Iriel | But I do see an ace hook call used |
| 22:06.01 | Iriel | and the error is coming from it |
| 22:06.08 | Iriel | so I think it's a legitimate assumption 8-) |
| 22:06.31 | Industrial | ok, anyone else? |
| 22:06.35 | Industrial | :\ |
| 22:06.55 | shouryuu | I've look at the problem |
| 22:07.00 | shouryuu | and totaly agree with Iriel |
| 22:07.06 | Iriel | Especially because that error message is geenrated BY Ace |
| 22:07.08 | Iriel | and not the base API |
| 22:07.13 | Iriel | look in AceScript.lua |
| 22:07.37 | Iriel | I wonder if that's an oversight in Ace |
| 22:07.44 | Iriel | it doesn't let you hook handler functions that aren't there |
| 22:07.49 | Iriel | if so, you should report it as a bug |
| 22:08.07 | Industrial | Iriel: i guess its so small i wouldnt need ace for it. so i can also delete the Disable part because other addons dont seem to care about those things |
| 22:08.19 | Industrial | and just let it execute the luz, nothing more |
| 22:08.22 | cladhaire | Whats the issue you'r running into? |
| 22:08.23 | Industrial | lua* |
| 22:08.31 | Iriel | The issue is, if you use ace to hook a script handler... |
| 22:08.38 | Iriel | and the frame didn't have a handler for that action before... |
| 22:08.38 | shouryuu | arghhhh login failure |
| 22:08.50 | Iriel | then ace gives you an error because there is no script to call afterwards |
| 22:08.54 | Iriel | That's my guess anyway |
| 22:08.59 | Iriel | I could be wrong, but I bet i'm not |
| 22:09.03 | cladhaire | lol |
| 22:09.10 | kremonte | special in a good way or in a...'special' way... hmm. /ponders |
| 22:09.19 | cladhaire | Industrial: Can you toss the code somewhere for me to look at? |
| 22:09.28 | Tem | ditto |
| 22:09.35 | Industrial | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Mm6eiq14.html |
| 22:09.41 | cladhaire | I recently rewrote the AceHooks module.. so i'd like to see if my module breaks it.. :P |
| 22:09.49 | Industrial | heh :D |
| 22:10.04 | Iriel | Just try and hook OnScrollWheel on a Chat Frame |
| 22:10.06 | shouryuu | did the forums just crash? I can't post!! Eeeekk! A troll can't post |
| 22:10.10 | Tem | I must confess I've never tried to hook a script handler that wasn't there before, but I'd bet it would exist |
| 22:10.10 | cladhaire | Iriel: Did you get a chance to take a look at my rewrite? |
| 22:10.12 | Iriel | (When you dont have any addons running that hook it already) |
| 22:10.31 | Iriel | cladhaire : Err, I dont remember, so 'probably not' |
| 22:10.31 | Industrial | this is my first throw at lua btw |
| 22:10.38 | Industrial | actually my second but the first doesnt count |
| 22:10.53 | Iriel | Well Industrial, I think your expectation on how Ace SHOULD behave is 100% correct |
| 22:11.05 | cladhaire | Iriel: http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=626 if you get bored |
| 22:11.18 | Iriel | Industrial I think that it's just an oversight within Ace about hooking script handlers.. They're not EXACTLY the same as normal functions. |
| 22:11.23 | cladhaire | i'm still not done with confidence testing.. but the prelim tests i did it operated as I intended it to |
| 22:12.19 | Tem | Tip: A mail icon next to the minimap means you have new mail. Visit a mailbox to retrieve it. |
| 22:12.52 | Industrial | lmoa |
| 22:12.54 | Industrial | lmao* |
| 22:13.06 | cladhaire | The error is being thrown from AceScript |
| 22:13.07 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 22:13.10 | kremonte | Tem, are you enjoying yourself? :P |
| 22:13.18 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:13.19 | Iriel | I said that already 8-) |
| 22:13.22 | Tem | you have no idea |
| 22:13.24 | kremonte | nothing related to the PTR is loading ;( |
| 22:13.26 | cladhaire | Sorry.. i was scrolling back |
| 22:13.32 | Tem | this is like my christmas |
| 22:13.44 | Tem | oh look I found another possible bug |
| 22:13.46 | shouryuu | i can't post! |
| 22:13.53 | Industrial | Iriel, cladhaire, I also didn't make the code <uber noob /> it's Rowne/Turans/ToastTheif's... i just stripped the Chatscroll addon down to 2kb of non configurability |
| 22:14.10 | Industrial | the rest seems to work |
| 22:14.11 | Industrial | :. |
| 22:14.24 | Tem | anyone else have issues with the casting bar? |
| 22:14.24 | cladhaire | Tem: what this time? |
| 22:14.30 | shouryuu | nothing works, it only seems to work until it breaks |
| 22:14.32 | Tem | It's all out of alignment |
| 22:14.34 | ToastTheif | are you done with that CS strip Indus? |
| 22:14.43 | Industrial | ToastTheif: no heh, only the scrolling |
| 22:14.51 | ToastTheif | k |
| 22:16.33 | Tain | It only works until it breaks. |
| 22:16.52 | shouryuu | if it breaks it never worked |
| 22:16.59 | shouryuu | so it seemed to work |
| 22:17.18 | shouryuu | am I the only one who notices when text gets aligned like that? |
| 22:17.28 | Industrial | where, what, how? |
| 22:17.40 | shouryuu | under "if it breaks" |
| 22:17.51 | shouryuu | there "so it seemed" |
| 22:17.51 | Industrial | www.google.com/search?q=silverex |
| 22:17.57 | Industrial | use that |
| 22:17.57 | Industrial | :> |
| 22:18.01 | shouryuu | same number of letters and allignement |
| 22:18.48 | shouryuu | i always notice in guild chat when someone has the same number of letters in their name as I ahve in mine.. |
| 22:18.55 | shouryuu | I must some sort of freakk |
| 22:19.21 | ToastTheif | I notice sometimes |
| 22:19.40 | ToastTheif | like in play |
| 22:19.42 | shouryuu | mannn I have a smartass remark to post and it won't let me! |
| 22:19.42 | ToastTheif | plays* |
| 22:20.13 | shouryuu | forums are down |
| 22:20.27 | ToastTheif | Indus |
| 22:20.40 | Industrial | Toasty |
| 22:20.42 | ToastTheif | what's the difference between xchat and xchat 2 thingy that u linked |
| 22:20.55 | Industrial | xchat 2 is the latest xchat generation |
| 22:21.06 | Industrial | xchat2 doesnt come free to use for windows |
| 22:21.13 | Industrial | however the source is GPL |
| 22:21.22 | Industrial | silverex does a good job at building a free to use version |
| 22:21.37 | Industrial | (for windows) |
| 22:22.07 | cladhaire | Industrial: its an omission in AceScript... looks like AceHook and AceScript weren't kept in sync |
| 22:22.08 | ToastTheif | so xchat2 is free? |
| 22:22.24 | cladhaire | But I'm still looking |
| 22:22.29 | Industrial | in essence, yes. but not the windows version from the official site |
| 22:22.32 | Industrial | the source is |
| 22:22.40 | ToastTheif | mm, ok |
| 22:22.41 | Industrial | cladhaire: k |
| 22:22.49 | Osagasu | Anduin! |
| 22:22.52 | Osagasu | you around? |
| 22:23.38 | cladhaire | Industrial: You'd run into an issue even with vanilla hooks because they don't exist at that point.. so you'd have to test for the case where the handler doesn't exist |
| 22:23.51 | Industrial | hmm yeah |
| 22:25.00 | cladhaire | My ace knowledge is limited to the code i've submitted.. which i can see needs some error checkin still |
| 22:25.35 | Industrial | my ace knowledge is limited to... well what you see here.. :| same as my lua knowledge |
| 22:25.57 | ToastTheif | heh |
| 22:26.02 | ToastTheif | there you go Shour |
| 22:26.11 | ToastTheif | exact line up =P |
| 22:27.11 | Industrial | what im trying to do, would it be shorter/faster or even easier without ace? i don't need slash commands and localisation etc |
| 22:27.30 | cladhaire | You need to check if the method is there b efore you hook it.. and if not.. just replace it. |
| 22:27.47 | cladhaire | Ace can't do that.. Ace won't hook a method that doesn't exist (if you use AceHook).. which i suspect you could.. but honestly dont know |
| 22:28.44 | Iriel | Are SHOULD be able to do that though, for script handlers |
| 22:28.54 | Iriel | I agree that for 'normal' functions it's a bit odd |
| 22:28.55 | cladhaire | I agree |
| 22:29.07 | shouryuu | lucy in the skyyyy with diamonds! |
| 22:29.11 | cladhaire | but again, i don't have anythign to do with ace =) |
| 22:29.26 | shouryuu | the beattles are so cool :P |
| 22:29.34 | cladhaire | Iriel: If you try to hook the nonexistant OnEnter method (for example) what should the behavior be.. just SetScript()? |
| 22:29.45 | shouryuu | well I'm going girls! |
| 22:29.52 | shouryuu | wish me luck in my futur adventures! |
| 22:29.55 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 22:31.07 | cladhaire | Iriel: Unless i'm missing somthing (which is wholly possible).. regardless of what we do.. unless we're after something, the very first SetScript would blow us out.. if we're okay with that then we just SetScript if there is no handler, and hook otherwise |
| 22:31.46 | Iriel | That should work yes |
| 22:32.07 | Iriel | but at that point you may as well do all of the hooking directly and skip the ace hook altogether? |
| 22:32.16 | cladhaire | I agree |
| 22:32.24 | cladhaire | I'm just talking in principle here :P |
| 22:33.01 | cladhaire | Industrial: Gimme a second |
| 22:33.37 | Industrial | cladhaire: sure im just trying to figure out whats being said, reading aceHook and see what it does.. etc.. |
| 22:33.46 | cladhaire | :P |
| 22:33.46 | Industrial | cladhaire: im actually 20 lines behind |
| 22:33.48 | Industrial | :P |
| 22:37.27 | ToastTheif | hmm, Tem! |
| 22:37.30 | ToastTheif | where are you? |
| 22:38.01 | cladhaire | doings some quick testing. |
| 22:44.10 | cladhaire | Industrial: http://watchdog.brokendreams.net/Temp/HookMethod |
| 22:45.08 | cladhaire | Shoot.. you made my timed quest fail :P |
| 22:45.33 | Iriel | Ooh, neat tricks with SetTexCoord |
| 22:48.45 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Irish (n=irishbru@ip68-110-153-94.hr.hr.cox.net) |
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| 22:56.41 | ToastTheif | can anyone tell me what the new spells in AQ is all about? |
| 22:57.03 | cladhaire | they're drops |
| 22:57.12 | cladhaire | in theory |
| 22:57.12 | ToastTheif | I see people complaing about it, but I don't know whaat they are? |
| 22:57.19 | cladhaire | Like.. Backstab rank 9 |
| 22:57.23 | cladhaire | currently top rank is 8 |
| 22:57.29 | ToastTheif | hmm |
| 22:57.37 | ToastTheif | where does it say this in the patch notes? |
| 22:57.57 | cladhaire | It doesn't :P |
| 22:58.11 | ToastTheif | how do people know then? |
| 22:58.16 | cladhaire | But the spells exist in the mpqs.. and the patch notes DO state that spells now "Can have a faction requirement associated with them" |
| 22:58.18 | cladhaire | Data mining. |
| 22:58.27 | cladhaire | on a fundamental level =) |
| 22:58.49 | ToastTheif | uhhh |
| 22:58.50 | ToastTheif | ok |
| 22:59.17 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Irish (n=irishbru@ip68-110-153-94.hr.hr.cox.net) |
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| 22:59.47 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 22:59.51 | Cair | *purr* |
| 22:59.55 | shouryuu | :P |
| 22:59.59 | cladhaire | *lick* |
| 23:00.01 | Cair | hi Irish |
| 23:00.08 | Cair | mmmmrowl! |
| 23:00.21 | ToastTheif | so |
| 23:00.24 | Irish | Hi Cair thanks for the help :P |
| 23:00.27 | ToastTheif | where can I view these new spells? |
| 23:00.34 | shouryuu | I ate them |
| 23:00.37 | ToastTheif | does Thott have them in their DB yet? |
| 23:00.43 | ToastTheif | are there any screenies? |
| 23:00.58 | cladhaire | No one has them yet. |
| 23:01.00 | cladhaire | They just exist |
| 23:01.04 | Cair | You're welcome Irish, now to get some actual help :p |
| 23:01.17 | ToastTheif | Irish |
| 23:01.20 | cladhaire | like the Chinese new year and winter's veil graphics and spells |
| 23:01.28 | ToastTheif | would you happen to be the same Irish from WC in TDG? |
| 23:01.37 | Irish | lol....i just made a post hopefully someone will respond |
| 23:01.56 | ToastTheif | I guess not |
| 23:01.57 | Irish | No..sorry :P |
| 23:02.51 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/db/spells/reindeer-transformation-id25860/ |
| 23:02.55 | shouryuu | What are the best techniques to make you want to sleep |
| 23:03.07 | ToastTheif | Mmm, snowballs again |
| 23:03.11 | ToastTheif | I loved that last year |
| 23:03.39 | ToastTheif | http://www.wowguru.com/db/spells/mistletoe-id26004/ |
| 23:03.45 | Tain | shouryuu: a liter of rum |
| 23:03.47 | shouryuu | this looks like one badass mmorpg http://www.darkandlight.net/ |
| 23:03.52 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57) |
| 23:03.58 | ToastTheif | Qiraji Battle Tank =/ |
| 23:04.05 | Cair | hi Guillotine |
| 23:04.13 | Cair | Irish, go ahead and ask :) |
| 23:05.30 | Irish | Ok...I am trying to fins the XML files that the Mana and Health bars are associated with |
| 23:05.39 | Guillotine | i have a question. i know that people say it can't be done, but I'm trying to make an addon that turns you around 180 degrees. my idea was to use FlipCameraYaw(180); followed by TurnOrActionStart(); (or activate looklock). its not working though. any ideas? |
| 23:05.50 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:05.53 | shouryuu | this just got posted on the forums |
| 23:06.15 | Iriel | You can't use FlipCameraYaw |
| 23:06.18 | shouryuu | https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=269318&p=1&tmp=1#post269318 |
| 23:06.18 | Cair | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=269318&p=1&tmp=1#post269318 |
| 23:06.20 | Guillotine | yes you can. and it works |
| 23:06.21 | Iriel | But someone did just post a solution on the forum |
| 23:06.29 | shouryuu | HAHA beat ya to it :P |
| 23:06.29 | Iriel | it requires some minor setup first |
| 23:06.44 | Iriel | Though maybe combining that technique with FlipCameraYaw works |
| 23:06.48 | Guillotine | nope. says cair beat you on my thing |
| 23:07.05 | Cair | "Irish: Ok...I am trying to fins the XML files that the Mana and Health bars are associated with" |
| 23:07.06 | Guillotine | irish: its UnitFrame.xml in the FrameXML folder |
| 23:07.46 | ToastTheif | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:07.46 | ToastTheif | * Paladin talents STILL suck. |
| 23:07.46 | ToastTheif | * New ranks of spells ONLY for raiders. |
| 23:07.47 | ToastTheif | * Troll Racials got NERFED. |
| 23:07.47 | ToastTheif | * We were LIED to about debuff priority and weather systems. |
| 23:07.47 | ToastTheif | * Hunters and Warriors were NERFED. |
| 23:07.51 | ToastTheif | * Paladins in general STILL suck. |
| 23:07.59 | ToastTheif | how can that kid be serious? |
| 23:08.03 | ToastTheif | hunters were nerfed? |
| 23:08.12 | Irish | Awsome thank you Guillotine |
| 23:08.18 | AnduinLothar | how do they still suck? they added some nifty spells |
| 23:08.31 | ToastTheif | some people will always complain I guess |
| 23:08.33 | Guillotine | ya |
| 23:08.34 | Guillotine | no kidding |
| 23:08.36 | Guillotine | hunters nerfed? |
| 23:08.37 | AnduinLothar | i like um |
| 23:08.38 | Guillotine | wtf? |
| 23:08.53 | shouryuu | anyone here played PE? |
| 23:08.55 | Iriel | Guillotine : I think you'll find FlipCameraYaw and the turn functions dont combine the way you think they do |
| 23:09.01 | AnduinLothar | 30% crit spell Eye for an Eye will be very nice pvp |
| 23:09.06 | Guillotine | iriel: i guess not |
| 23:09.20 | Guillotine | ooo. are the new pally changes up? |
| 23:09.24 | shouryuu | yeah |
| 23:09.39 | AnduinLothar | and +8% run/mount speed is sweet even if it doesn't stack |
| 23:09.59 | AnduinLothar | means i can get a diff enchant on my boots |
| 23:10.06 | AnduinLothar | and still run faster |
| 23:10.33 | AnduinLothar | tho the 17% mount speed from 3 buffs will still be used with wardrobe auto-switching |
| 23:10.46 | Tain | I'm still a little disappointed though, I would rather they made thrown weapons actually worth something than just give Trolls bow bonus for racial. |
| 23:10.55 | AnduinLothar | true |
| 23:11.08 | AnduinLothar | throwing weaps sucked in D2 as well |
| 23:11.47 | Tain | I do see the melee changes as somewhat of a big deal to sword spec people who got an extra attack. |
| 23:12.22 | Tain | One of the good things about it was that your extra attack would sometimes be an extra proc caused by the last proc, and string together a few. |
| 23:12.28 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 23:13.08 | Tain | Oh shoot, I better get fishing and stock up. |
| 23:13.12 | AnduinLothar | 10% fear and disorient resit is very nice too |
| 23:13.18 | shouryuu | it hardly works |
| 23:13.26 | shouryuu | I have it on my priest |
| 23:13.31 | Iriel | Anyone want to see a totally silly texture spinning test? |
| 23:13.34 | shouryuu | never even remotly saw a difference |
| 23:13.40 | shouryuu | hit me Iriel |
| 23:13.59 | AnduinLothar | I'm gonna boot up my addons and see what blows |
| 23:14.17 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/ |
| 23:14.19 | Iriel | TextureSpinTest |
| 23:14.48 | AnduinLothar | still need to test command and see if it's still good |
| 23:14.56 | AnduinLothar | more procs with less damage |
| 23:18.04 | AnduinLothar | ZERO onload errors! |
| 23:18.57 | shouryuu | w00t |
| 23:19.22 | AnduinLothar | wow.. |
| 23:19.27 | AnduinLothar | everythign seems to work |
| 23:20.30 | shouryuu | ok iriel |
| 23:20.31 | AnduinLothar | anything anyone wants me to test? |
| 23:20.35 | shouryuu | what made you write that? |
| 23:21.40 | AnduinLothar | the new pally speed tallent leaves a trail of swirling glow behind you when u ride |
| 23:22.00 | AnduinLothar | similar to the warlock mount |
| 23:22.04 | AnduinLothar | only yellow |
| 23:22.31 | Guillotine | omg! they say they fixed wall walking. i have to see this... |
| 23:24.02 | Iriel | I needed to test that SetTexCoord works right (the new version) |
| 23:24.08 | Iriel | It's important for StatRings |
| 23:24.40 | AnduinLothar | New Fly path! IF to WPL |
| 23:24.46 | Industrial | cladhaire: i got the script ill look at it tomorrow kay? thanks ;) |
| 23:25.50 | AnduinLothar | Auctioneer tooltip is off on bag items |
| 23:26.01 | AnduinLothar | all items |
| 23:26.08 | AnduinLothar | it overlaps the tooltip |
| 23:26.17 | Iriel | Probably a scale issue |
| 23:26.34 | AnduinLothar | wait, only happens on some items |
| 23:26.59 | AnduinLothar | works on the top bag if u have three stacked.. |
| 23:27.04 | AnduinLothar | none of the rest |
| 23:27.46 | Iriel | does it get progressively more 'off' as you move down the screen? |
| 23:28.24 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 23:28.38 | AnduinLothar | top bag is on, rest are overlap the bottom fully |
| 23:29.21 | AnduinLothar | and for some reason my ward of elements trinket shows a boomerange texture in the 3d grab |
| 23:30.18 | Guillotine | do you have to restart WoW if you edit bindings.xml? |
| 23:30.31 | Guillotine | anduinlothar: ya. mine does too. no idea why |
| 23:30.33 | AnduinLothar | good question, go find out |
| 23:30.46 | Iriel | Guillotine : I dont know, they changed how bindings worked recently so it's quite possible |
| 23:31.21 | AnduinLothar | looks like any tooltip on the bottom half of the screen is anchored up fromt he bottom instead of down |
| 23:31.34 | AnduinLothar | prolly a bug with the tooltip lib |
| 23:32.42 | Guillotine | nope. dont have to reload ui if you edit bindigs.xml |
| 23:32.56 | AnduinLothar | no? |
| 23:33.00 | Industrial | (UGT) Good Night! |
| 23:33.00 | AnduinLothar | they didn't fix that? |
| 23:33.21 | Iriel | He meant 'Restart WoW' not 'ReloadUI" i'm sure |
| 23:34.03 | Cair | night Indu |
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| 23:36.48 | Guillotine | right. i meant restart wow |
| 23:36.50 | Guillotine | of course |
| 23:39.31 | Tem | I too must go |
| 23:39.40 | Cair | night Tem |
| 23:39.47 | Tem | night? |
| 23:39.54 | Tem | lol... I'll be awake for another 12 hours |
| 23:40.03 | Cair | well, you know :p |
| 23:40.20 | Tem | anyways, bye |
| 23:40.27 | ToastTheif | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=windows&word2=google |
| 23:40.36 | ToastTheif | nothing can beat windows |
| 23:40.40 | ToastTheif | I don't know why |
| 23:41.37 | Guillotine | do you even need an xml file if youre not going to register any events? |
| 23:41.42 | AnduinLothar | either it's not workign or they removed the circular flash thing for global cooldowns |
| 23:42.09 | Iriel | Guillotine : No |
| 23:42.27 | AnduinLothar | casting spells gets thier flash stuck |
| 23:42.45 | ToastTheif | http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=a&word2=the rofl |
