| 00:01.15 | pagefault | woot |
| 00:01.17 | pagefault | I love this build |
| 00:05.20 | pagefault | and I got booted from the test server |
| 00:05.36 | Depherios | everybody did |
| 00:05.37 | Depherios | lol |
| 00:05.43 | Depherios | it's DOWN |
| 00:06.11 | pagefault | I think I am going to spec into demonology |
| 00:06.23 | pagefault | the affliction tree isn't doing it for me anymore |
| 00:06.32 | Depherios | heh |
| 00:06.37 | pagefault | affliction was great leveling up but I need more dmg right away |
| 00:06.38 | pagefault | in pvp |
| 00:06.42 | Depherios | I hate demonology 'locks, een though i want to make one |
| 00:06.53 | pagefault | some of the talents are very cool |
| 00:06.57 | Depherios | my 'lock is PvE though D: D: D: D: |
| 00:07.19 | pagefault | well in BG |
| 00:07.24 | pagefault | I don't like being ganked |
| 00:07.28 | pagefault | soul link will help with that |
| 00:46.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ToastTheif (i=ToastThe@24-177-151-62.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 00:59.03 | ToastTheif | rawr |
| 00:59.07 | ToastTheif | who be hurr |
| 00:59.09 | Cair | *purr* |
| 00:59.12 | Depherios | yo |
| 00:59.27 | ToastTheif | Im happy |
| 00:59.32 | ToastTheif | Im getting 2 computers now |
| 01:01.00 | Cair | grats |
| 01:05.41 | ToastTheif | :) |
| 01:05.45 | ToastTheif | hmm |
| 01:05.50 | ToastTheif | wonder where industrial is |
| 01:06.00 | Tain | If you're getting 2 then you should send me one. |
| 01:06.32 | ToastTheif | Im using the other as my experimental computer =P |
| 01:06.38 | ToastTheif | putting linux on it and whatnot |
| 01:07.12 | Depherios | yeah I need to do that with my spare, can't do it to the laptop, nor the gaming machine, but I have this older 1ghz machine under my desk |
| 01:07.23 | ToastTheif | btw |
| 01:07.24 | ToastTheif | http://www.freewebs.com/toastasd/druiditems.htm |
| 01:08.39 | ToastTheif | http://mammae.org/images/1.9/1.9Loot_page6.jpg - look at bottom left corner |
| 01:09.19 | Depherios | lol |
| 01:09.25 | Depherios | why on earth, do it that way? XD |
| 01:09.31 | Depherios | (as far as your equipment) |
| 01:09.35 | Depherios | or somebodies |
| 01:09.48 | ToastTheif | well |
| 01:10.01 | ToastTheif | it's all equpidment of the test server sttuff |
| 01:10.05 | Depherios | ooooooooh |
| 01:10.13 | ToastTheif | the guy who took it is lvl 1 |
| 01:10.15 | Depherios | lol |
| 01:10.21 | ToastTheif | it's all links he got lol |
| 01:10.24 | Depherios | lootlink is my friend |
| 01:10.27 | ToastTheif | there's 7 pages |
| 01:10.42 | ToastTheif | http://mammae.org/images/1.9/ |
| 01:11.31 | ToastTheif | Im liking the Undieing Life set for my druid... |
| 01:11.44 | ToastTheif | http://mammae.org/images/1.9/1.9Loot_page5.jpg - top 3 |
| 01:11.51 | Depherios | I'm just glad there's finally priest gear my Troll will look good in XD |
| 01:13.34 | ToastTheif | omg |
| 01:13.42 | ToastTheif | http://mammae.org/images/1.9/1.9Loot_page2%20copy.jpg - first 2, second row |
| 01:14.13 | Depherios | ... |
| 01:15.26 | ToastTheif | the Wormhide gear is officially AMAZING |
| 01:19.52 | ToastTheif | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Ziur/yarly.jpg |
| 01:20.05 | ToastTheif | there is an NPC name "Yarly"... |
| 01:20.10 | Depherios | lol |
| 01:20.16 | Depherios | I went and saw the ones in TB XD |
| 01:21.05 | ToastTheif | the AH? |
| 01:21.08 | ToastTheif | what's it like? |
| 01:21.15 | ToastTheif | I plan to make it my home :) |
| 01:21.35 | Depherios | the TB one? |
| 01:21.45 | Depherios | two guys standing on the lowest level |
| 01:21.46 | Depherios | lol |
| 01:22.02 | Depherios | to the left of the bank (if you're facing it) past the leatherworking guys |
| 01:22.40 | ToastTheif | oh well |
| 01:22.46 | ToastTheif | least there is an AH |
| 01:22.53 | Depherios | XD |
| 01:37.00 | Cair | *bored* |
| 01:41.22 | Guillotine | im eating thanksgiving dinner... turning to the computer when nobodies lookiong |
| 01:41.28 | Guillotine | i hate pea soup... |
| 01:42.52 | Guillotine | ~thanksgiving |
| 01:42.52 | purl | Guillotine: sure thing |
| 01:42.58 | Guillotine | huh? |
| 01:43.16 | Guillotine | ~screw you |
| 01:43.17 | purl | no thanks |
| 01:43.21 | Guillotine | lol |
| 01:43.27 | Guillotine | *cackle* |
| 01:43.33 | Guillotine | im abusing the bot |
| 01:43.39 | Guillotine | isnt cair going to yell at me? |
| 01:43.41 | Guillotine | im bored |
| 01:43.44 | Guillotine | i need to be yelled at |
| 01:44.03 | Cair | ~trout Guillotine |
| 01:44.05 | purl | ACTION slaps Guillotine around a bit with a large trout! |
| 01:44.13 | Cair | ~botsnack |
| 01:44.13 | purl | Cair: :) |
| 01:44.19 | Guillotine | yay! |
| 01:44.39 | Guillotine | thanksgiving dinner is always so boring... |
| 01:44.52 | Guillotine | at least it was interesting before the 2 year old fell asleep |
| 01:44.54 | kergoth | but yummy |
| 01:45.03 | Guillotine | yup. yummy |
| 01:45.11 | Cair | *bored* |
| 01:45.24 | Guillotine | we have a tradition so as to not get too fat (like the rest of the US). before dinner, you go around telling nasty jokes so everyone loses their appetites |
| 01:45.41 | Guillotine | not really, but that would be an -- intersting tradition |
| 01:46.54 | Guillotine | anyone want updates on our thanksgiving day conversation? |
| 01:47.18 | Guillotine | person 1 says: "Screw harry potter". person 2 says: "Wouldnt you like to" |
| 01:47.24 | Guillotine | *sigh* |
| 01:47.50 | Guillotine | and we're convincing the 5 year old that if he crosses his eyes, theill get stuck like that |
| 01:48.13 | *** join/#wowi-lounge ToastTheif (i=ToastThe@24-177-151-62.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com) |
| 01:48.36 | Cair | not precisely true :p |
| 01:48.48 | Guillotine | ya, but its fun scaring him |
| 01:48.52 | Guillotine | hey toasty! |
| 01:48.57 | Guillotine | ~toasttheif |
| 01:48.59 | purl | Toasttheif ninjas toast then logs off, or a cool guy |
| 01:49.32 | Guillotine | now im going to show all of our guests the llama song... brb |
| 01:50.08 | kergoth | yay |
| 01:50.36 | Cair | \o/ |
| 01:50.57 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.07 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.58 | ToastTheif | hello |
| 01:52.11 | Cair | wb |
| 01:52.28 | ToastTheif | purl, forget ToastTheif |
| 01:52.45 | ToastTheif | pur, ToastTheif ninjas toast then logs off. |
| 01:52.51 | ToastTheif | dammit |
| 01:52.54 | ToastTheif | how does this tihng work |
| 01:53.02 | ToastTheif | purl forget Toasttheif |
| 01:53.13 | ToastTheif | ~forget toasttheif |
| 01:53.30 | ToastTheif | purl, ToastTheif ninjas toast then logs off |
| 01:53.40 | Cair | purl, no, Toasttheif is <reply> ToastTheif ninjas toast, then logs off. |
| 01:53.41 | purl | okay, Cair |
| 01:53.44 | ToastTheif | ~shoot me |
| 01:53.46 | purl | ACTION shoots toasttheif in the foot with a phase pistol! |
| 01:53.49 | Cair | ~toastthief |
| 01:53.59 | Cair | purl, toastthief? |
| 01:54.02 | ToastTheif | ...so now you listen to me |
| 01:54.15 | Cair | dumb bot :p |
| 01:54.35 | Cair | purl, Toasttheif? |
| 01:54.37 | purl | ToastTheif ninjas toast, then logs off. |
| 01:54.49 | ToastTheif | thanks Cair |
| 01:54.52 | Cair | ~botsnack |
| 01:54.52 | purl | Cair: aw, gee |
| 01:54.59 | ToastTheif | lol |
| 01:54.59 | End | ~unproductivity |
| 01:55.01 | purl | yay! |
| 01:55.06 | Cair | \o/ |
| 01:55.20 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.22 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:55.40 | Cair | soooo bored :p |
| 01:55.42 | ToastTheif | Cair |
| 01:55.54 | ToastTheif | did u see the orly and yarly NPCs? |
| 01:55.58 | Cair | yes |
| 01:55.59 | Guillotine | TURKEY TIME! yay! i love engorging on disembodied fowels |
| 01:56.01 | Guillotine | no |
| 01:56.04 | Guillotine | where? |
| 01:56.10 | ToastTheif | the links are down now |
| 01:56.16 | ToastTheif | I never got to see the orly one |
| 01:56.17 | Guillotine | i heard about the Yarly the auction house guy |
| 01:56.25 | ToastTheif | yeah, I saw Yarly |
| 01:56.32 | ToastTheif | haven't seen Orly yet though |
| 01:58.15 | Tem | Where is the orly npc? |
| 01:58.29 | ToastTheif | no clue |
| 01:58.36 | ToastTheif | I the link was down, I wanna see it though |
| 01:59.07 | ToastTheif | LSU plays tomorrow |
| 01:59.12 | Tem | yep |
| 01:59.17 | ToastTheif | who do you guys play again? |
| 01:59.23 | Tem | arkansas |
| 01:59.33 | ToastTheif | ah yes, you'll win ;) |
| 01:59.34 | Tem | razorbacks |
| 01:59.43 | Tem | poor bastards don't have a chance |
| 01:59.48 | ToastTheif | nope |
| 02:00.01 | ToastTheif | I hope so much that Texas loses |
| 02:00.06 | Tem | I'm keeping my fingers crossed |
| 02:00.22 | Tem | if either texas or usc loses LSU will play in the rose bowl |
| 02:00.26 | ToastTheif | mhmm |
| 02:00.35 | Tem | and that would be f'ing awesome |
| 02:00.43 | ToastTheif | too bad USC is winning the Rose Bowl, no matter who they play |
| 02:01.21 | Tem | I can't decide which I'd like to see lose |
| 02:01.31 | ToastTheif | Texass |
| 02:02.19 | Tem | I wouldn't mind losing to Texas, but I really want to put the usc bussiness to bed |
| 02:02.52 | ToastTheif | don't worry, they won't win next year |
| 02:02.58 | Tem | oh I know that |
| 02:03.09 | Tem | but I just want LSU to play them once |
| 02:03.21 | Tem | so that we can kick their ass and shut them up about a joint championship |
| 02:03.36 | Tem | we won the sugar bowl. we are the champions |
| 02:03.47 | ToastTheif | ah......no |
| 02:04.02 | Tem | screw the AP |
| 02:08.47 | ToastTheif | maybe |
| 02:08.54 | ToastTheif | but it was nice to USC |
| 02:08.59 | ToastTheif | so not right now =P |
| 02:09.56 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Head (n=chatzill@user-0cev015.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 02:10.01 | Head | Hello. |
| 02:10.14 | Cair | hi |
| 02:10.24 | Auzhia | hi again |
| 02:11.20 | Cair | yo |
| 02:12.50 | Auzhia | today may be the worst day ever eh? |
| 02:13.02 | Cair | what makes you say that? |
| 02:13.05 | ToastTheif | how so? |
| 02:13.42 | Auzhia | Well me mum wouldn't let me make a proper toast. |
| 02:13.55 | Auzhia | And then she wouldn't let me renew my WoW subscription |
| 02:14.09 | ToastTheif | I like Toast, and WoW |
| 02:14.13 | Tain | Which is worse? |
| 02:14.22 | Cair | Well, I'm sure there must be reasons |
| 02:14.23 | Auzhia | WoW |
| 02:14.34 | ToastTheif | you should just buy game cards |
| 02:14.39 | ToastTheif | that's what I do |
| 02:14.44 | Auzhia | Where would I get the money? |
| 02:14.48 | Auzhia | It's 60 right? |
| 02:14.51 | Tain | I made some very good bread today. |
| 02:14.53 | ToastTheif | no |
| 02:15.02 | ToastTheif | 24.99 if u catch em on sale |
| 02:15.09 | ToastTheif | 29 regular though |
| 02:15.10 | Auzhia | Where would I even buy them? |
| 02:15.15 | Auzhia | Or get the money. |
| 02:15.20 | Auzhia | It's impossible. |
| 02:15.27 | ToastTheif | bestbuy, internet, circuitcity |
| 02:15.29 | ToastTheif | etc.. |
| 02:15.34 | ToastTheif | 30 isn't much |
| 02:15.47 | Auzhia | I mean, my mother could pay it no problem. |
| 02:15.52 | Auzhia | It's not the money with her. |
| 02:15.53 | ToastTheif | I don't have a job and I almost always have more than 30 in my wallet |
| 02:16.35 | kergoth | hmm, any good addons around to manage purchasing of reagents, for crafting items or for topping off stacks of poisons? |
| 02:16.39 | ToastTheif | you can find ways to make money :) |
| 02:16.52 | Auzhia | She said my cousin is 1 year younger than me, has 3 jobs, does good in school, and is taking courses to drive. |
| 02:17.06 | Auzhia | She doesn't seem to understand that i don't care what my cousin is doing. |
| 02:17.28 | Auzhia | She has two sons, one has dropped out of school and the other is on the verge of...maybe she is the problem? |
| 02:18.01 | ToastTheif | I will now stop talking |
| 02:18.06 | Auzhia | Sorry. |
| 02:18.34 | Cair | Then again, maybe she'd like to see one of them *not* drop out of highschool, thus she won't let him continue to waste time in front of the computer playing WoW all day instead of getting his homework done |
| 02:19.01 | Cair | hate to tell you this, but you came to the wrong place for pity over something like that |
| 02:19.34 | Auzhia | I'm not looking for petty. |
| 02:19.37 | Auzhia | I'm not. |
| 02:19.38 | Cair | those are the types of posts that belong in the blizz general forum |
| 02:19.48 | Auzhia | But I do my homework and stuff. |
| 02:25.00 | Cair | May I ask how old you are Auzhia, what grade you are in? Don't answer if you don't want to, just curious |
| 02:25.13 | Auzhia | I am 16. |
| 02:25.16 | Auzhia | 10th grade. |
| 02:25.19 | Auzhia | Should be in the 11th. |
| 02:25.31 | Cair | So why are you on the verge of dropping out? |
| 02:25.54 | Auzhia | Because I've cut class for about two months. |
| 02:25.57 | Auzhia | I have stopped of course. |
| 02:26.10 | Auzhia | But the thing is...school sucks so much |
| 02:26.14 | Cair | That isn't on the verge of dropping out, that's on the verge of being kicked out |
| 02:26.15 | Auzhia | I just want to come home and relax and play a little WoW. |
| 02:26.28 | Auzhia | Maybe. |
| 02:27.13 | Cair | And you're flunking, right? |
| 02:27.18 | Auzhia | I guess so. |
| 02:27.26 | Auzhia | Just had my midterms this week. |
| 02:27.30 | Auzhia | I think I did quite well. |
| 02:27.36 | Auzhia | on most of them. |
| 02:27.38 | Cair | Well gee, I can't understand why your mom might not be willing to pay for WoW for you |
| 02:27.54 | Cair | until she sees your report card and sees that your marks are going back up again |
| 02:27.59 | Cair | until you get your act cleaned up |
| 02:28.03 | Auzhia | That isn't the point though. |
| 02:28.17 | Cair | I know if my daughter was in the position you are in, I'd be cutting her account off |
| 02:28.24 | Auzhia | i've had bad marks for about 2 and a half years now. |
| 02:28.26 | Cair | until she got her shit together |
| 02:28.40 | Auzhia | In that time she let me buy WoW. |
| 02:28.44 | Auzhia | Update my computer. |
| 02:28.46 | Auzhia | Pay for it. |
| 02:28.50 | Cair | on what terms? |
| 02:28.54 | Auzhia | None. |
| 02:28.57 | Auzhia | There were no terms. |
| 02:29.01 | Auzhia | It's not even about me. |
| 02:29.06 | Auzhia | It's about her sister. |
| 02:29.14 | Auzhia | And her son. |
| 02:29.23 | Auzhia | He is better than me,and obviously my equal in age. |
| 02:29.28 | Auzhia | Thus i have to be better than him. |
| 02:29.34 | Auzhia | And if I'm not, I suffer |
| 02:30.18 | Auzhia | He isn't even all that smart. |
| 02:30.25 | Auzhia | They just push him a lot more than my mom does me. |
| 02:30.31 | Tain | He's not making you suffer, you're making youreslf suffer. |
| 02:30.36 | Auzhia | "go get your driver's license!" |
| 02:30.39 | Auzhia | And he does it. |
| 02:30.43 | Auzhia | then she tells me to get mine |
| 02:30.48 | Auzhia | We don't even have a goddamn car. |
| 02:30.51 | Tain | You've got no one to blame but yourself. |
| 02:30.52 | Auzhia | They do. |
| 02:31.03 | Auzhia | No i have my mother to blame. |
| 02:31.13 | Auzhia | There is no difference in me being online, and me being online playing WoW. |
| 02:31.18 | End | I used to say that a lot about my mom |
| 02:31.19 | Cair | Your high school doesn't offer Driver's Ed? |
| 02:31.37 | Auzhia | I highly doubt it does. |
| 02:31.39 | Tain | As long as you blame other people for your problems instead of taking responsibility you're going to have a long, rough, life. |
| 02:31.41 | Osagasu | o.o |
| 02:32.05 | Auzhia | Mate. |
| 02:32.14 | Auzhia | No offense but you don't know enough about me to make that statement. |
| 02:32.19 | Auzhia | I have suffered my entire life. |
| 02:32.28 | Auzhia | Being alone all day while my mother worked. |
| 02:32.33 | Auzhia | Having my father leave us. |
| 02:32.41 | Cair | Not trying to come across as judgemental here, but really, a lot of what Tain is saying is true ... sure, you may have problems, I don't know your situation, but you are the only one that can turn it around |
| 02:33.06 | Auzhia | lol |
| 02:33.07 | Cair | if you *really* want things to get better, there *is* help out there |
| 02:33.13 | Cair | otherwise ... /shrug |
| 02:33.13 | ToastTheif | but I do have to agree, don't judge the kid |
| 02:33.25 | Depherios | Can you EVER kill an alliance without them bringing in a ?? to jack your ass?? |
| 02:33.38 | Osagasu | can say the same about horde. |
| 02:33.41 | ToastTheif | Depherios, nope... |
| 02:33.44 | Cair | ToastTheif: I'm not judging him/her, I already said I don't know the situation |
| 02:33.48 | Tain | I disagree. Someone who complains that their mother won't buy them things because he has bad grades and doesn't go to school is judgeworthy. |
| 02:33.52 | Osagasu | but I never call higher level buddies unless they're close |
| 02:33.56 | Depherios | I don't whine to guildies to get them to come kill teh guy who killed me |
| 02:34.03 | Depherios | I just go back and try to get him myself |
| 02:34.08 | Auzhia | No you miss the bigger picture. |
| 02:34.08 | Depherios | this was a 2 on 2 same levels fight |
| 02:34.12 | End | I don't even bring my main when my alt gets ganked. |
| 02:34.31 | Depherios | next thing you know a bunch of their guildie friends are ganking us left and right... wtf |
| 02:34.35 | End | it takes too much effort. if I'm gonna get on my main, I might as well do something useful with it instead of exacting revenge |
| 02:34.39 | Cair | I just know that if you really want to make things better, then you can, it just takes hard work |
| 02:35.00 | Auzhia | I have started to go to school, do all of my homework, and all I ask for is to play this game. |
| 02:35.23 | Auzhia | I told her, as a matter of fact, that i could and will take the cost out of my..allowance. |
| 02:35.33 | Cair | if you really want to make things better, I don't care *where* you live ... if you live somewhere that allows you to be on a computer and playing WoW, you live in a country where there *are* the support resources, if you care to make use of them |
| 02:35.52 | Cair | and don't tell me otherwise |
| 02:35.58 | Cair | I've *been* there, I know |
| 02:36.00 | Auzhia | sure that is true |
| 02:36.08 | Auzhia | But it's not easy. |
| 02:36.20 | Cair | I've been a single mom, on welfare, going to the foodbank to be able to feed myself |
| 02:36.23 | End | things usually aren't |
| 02:36.23 | Auzhia | And with the self assureness my mother taught us, I'm not getting anywhere. |
| 02:36.36 | Cair | don't whine at me that it's hard and not fair |
| 02:36.47 | Cair | if you want fair, damn well earn it |
| 02:37.09 | Auzhia | Well what is more important in life, going to school or getting a license for a car that you don't own. |
| 02:37.18 | Cair | school, definitely |
| 02:37.25 | Osagasu | I dunno about that... ;) |
| 02:37.27 | Depherios | I'm 22, I don't even drive |
| 02:37.27 | Auzhia | And that is what I'm devoting most of y time to. |
| 02:37.33 | Auzhia | Going to class, homework. |
| 02:37.37 | Cair | good |
| 02:37.38 | Depherios | don't have a license a car, none of it |
| 02:37.47 | Osagasu | I'm 18, didn't have my liscense till this last summer |
| 02:38.06 | Auzhia | Why can't I be rewarded with this game? |
| 02:38.07 | ToastTheif | Im 16, I have my liscense =P |
| 02:38.18 | Cair | why did she say? |
| 02:38.18 | Auzhia | Does your family have a car? |
| 02:38.37 | Osagasu | Because, like it or not, she is your mother, and her word is the final rule in most situations. |
| 02:38.47 | Osagasu | the only group above her is the police. |
| 02:39.00 | Cair | Auzhia: I'm sure she gave you a reason when she said no ... what was it? |
| 02:39.07 | Auzhia | Well. |
| 02:39.12 | Auzhia | She gave me several. |
| 02:39.17 | Cair | Osagasu: Family Services as well ... |
| 02:39.21 | Cair | And? |
| 02:39.34 | Auzhia | She said that, her sister said if she paid for this game for me, she would discontinue talking to her. |
| 02:39.50 | Osagasu | I group all law enforcement together under police, Cair. I'm a teenager. :P |
| 02:39.58 | Cair | Osagasu: heh |
| 02:40.08 | Auzhia | Then she said that she wants at least D+ on my next report card. |
| 02:40.17 | Cair | So, get the D+ |
| 02:40.18 | Auzhia | That means I can't play WoW until January? |
| 02:40.25 | Auzhia | Yeah but the report card is in January. |
| 02:40.26 | Cair | oh, gee, 2 months without wow |
| 02:40.27 | Auzhia | That is insane. |
| 02:40.29 | Osagasu | I don't see that as inappropriate. |
| 02:40.40 | Auzhia | It is quite harsh in my family. |
| 02:40.44 | Cair | buddy, you're breaking my heart here, honestly, I'm sobbing for you |
| 02:40.48 | Auzhia | When I came home with a lip piercing |
| 02:40.54 | Auzhia | I was only grounded for 3 days. |
| 02:41.03 | Auzhia | And my mom was quite mad. |
| 02:41.07 | Tain | Here I thought it was rough when my mother threw away our Atari 2600. |
| 02:41.50 | Osagasu | then again, I was raised in a house where anything under B and grandma took a belt to you. |
| 02:41.51 | Cair | Yup, sorry to say Auzhia, but you have confirmed to me that the story you are spinning belongs in the General forum ... too much emo for this channel |
| 02:42.03 | Osagasu | I got a belt every 6 weeks. |
| 02:42.12 | Tain | I wouldn't exactly say it belongs in the general forum either. |
| 02:42.18 | Auzhia | Haha. |
| 02:42.29 | Cair | I'm talking about the "maturity" level |
| 02:42.35 | End | on the general forum you would probably get a O RLY? and a learn2play |
| 02:42.36 | Osagasu | take it to /b/ |
| 02:42.44 | Tain | However! I am sure that there would be much more people there willing to make fun of the situatino. |
| 02:42.51 | Osagasu | they're more mature than General |
| 02:43.16 | Cair | Auzhia: if you want to have a serious conversation without whining about how hard done by you are, you are welcome to stay |
| 02:43.37 | Cair | if, however, you want to just whine and feel sorry for your poor hard done by self ... this isn't the place for you |
| 02:43.41 | Auzhia | I'm not exactly whining |
| 02:43.45 | Cair | sorry to come across so harsh, but geez |
| 02:44.07 | Auzhia | I'm not exactly whining |
| 02:44.15 | Irishbruin | Is there a command that will show all the addons you are currently using while in the game? |
| 02:44.22 | End | work damn you! |
| 02:44.24 | Cair | show of hands please, is Auzhia whining? |
| 02:44.30 | Auzhia | Oh come on |
| 02:44.30 | Osagasu | Yep, here we take care of our own. And once you're geeky enough to type /join #wowi-lounge, you're one of us until an op says otherwise. And if you keep on being emo, that's probably not far off, knowing Cair. |
| 02:44.31 | Legorol | Irishbruin: no command, but you can make a simple macro |
| 02:44.42 | Osagasu | I know whining. |
| 02:44.51 | ToastTheif | Cair, you're being a tad of an ass |
| 02:45.06 | Cair | Perhaps |
| 02:45.07 | ToastTheif | not that this kid isn't whinning |
| 02:45.10 | Irishbruin | what would the macro be? |
| 02:45.11 | End | yes, but I can relate. |
| 02:45.12 | ToastTheif | but it's the intraweb |
| 02:45.23 | Osagasu | you mean intarweb? :P |
| 02:45.33 | Auzhia | It's alright guys. |
| 02:45.40 | Auzhia | No need to stand up for me. |
| 02:45.41 | Cair | As I said, if Auzhia wants to have a serious conversation, he's welcome |
| 02:45.45 | Auzhia | I'm more that decently drunk. |
| 02:45.58 | Auzhia | Lets. |
| 02:46.01 | Cair | ... |
| 02:46.02 | Cair | rofl |
| 02:46.08 | Osagasu | and HOW old are you? |
| 02:46.11 | Cair | 16 |
| 02:46.13 | Auzhia | 16. |
| 02:46.18 | Osagasu | ...and you're drunk? |
| 02:46.20 | ToastTheif | Im not really standing up for you, Im standing up for the kids who actually have real problems but come across as dumb as you |
| 02:46.20 | Legorol | Irishbruin: something like: /script for i=1,GetNumAddOns() do n=GetAddOnInfo(i); if(IsAddOnLoaded(n))then ChatFrame1:AddMessage(n); end end |
| 02:46.24 | Tain | I bet it's unfair that your mom gets upset if you drink too. |
| 02:46.25 | Auzhia | ...it's thanksgiving |
| 02:46.37 | Auzhia | So you're calling me dumb? |
| 02:46.56 | Tain | I never said anything about dumb. |
| 02:47.05 | Auzhia | Toast did though. |
| 02:47.28 | Cair | 16, flunking out of highschool, in danger of being *thrown* out of highschool, drunk, and upset because mom dares to demand 2 months of good grades and good attendance before reinstating their wow account |
| 02:47.36 | Cair | no, toast said you are coming across as dumb |
| 02:47.41 | Cair | not that you *are* dumb |
| 02:47.45 | ToastTheif | mhmm |
| 02:47.53 | Auzhia | Wait Cair. |
| 02:48.00 | Auzhia | Not to continue this conversation. |
| 02:48.04 | Tain | Well, get those D+'s and prove him wrong! |
| 02:48.09 | Auzhia | But you are taking that out of context. |
| 02:48.10 | ToastTheif | you could very well me damn smart and just wasting away |
| 02:48.26 | Cair | Auzhia: taking what out of context? |
| 02:48.26 | Auzhia | I like to think of myself as smart. |
| 02:48.27 | Osagasu | She's only repeating what you told her... |
| 02:48.44 | Cair | You aren't acting it ... you may in fact be smart, but you aren't acting like you are |
| 02:48.48 | Auzhia | There are many things you all don't understand. |
| 02:48.59 | Auzhia | Keep in mind I am not sober. |
| 02:49.00 | Cair | As we've said, we don't know the situation |
| 02:49.05 | Cair | we only know what you've told us |
| 02:49.24 | Cair | but what you've told us ... kid, you need to do some growing up, and damn quick |
| 02:49.35 | Auzhia | But imagine how strict your mothers would be if they worked from 8-7 |
| 02:49.45 | Cair | ... |
| 02:49.56 | Auzhia | Exactly. |
| 02:50.03 | Cair | that wasn't me agreeing with you |
| 02:50.09 | Auzhia | Oh. |
| 02:50.11 | Osagasu | I didn't SEE my mother for 5 years out of my life. |
| 02:50.12 | Auzhia | What was it? |
| 02:50.22 | Cair | and ToastTheif, I know there are kids out there that have real problems |
| 02:50.39 | Auzhia | I didn't see my father for 10 years. |
| 02:50.41 | Auzhia | I live with it. |
| 02:50.41 | Osagasu | Sure, maybe 5 minutes on the weekends, but she'd come home, go to bed, then go to work when she got up. |
| 02:50.42 | kergoth | No offense, but jesus auz, stop your whining. Fucked up home life is the norm nowadays. Stop spouting your pathetic sob stories. |
| 02:50.43 | Cair | see back to my previous statements about *my* life |
| 02:51.16 | Auzhia | That's the thing. |
| 02:51.23 | Auzhia | I'm not whining. |
| 02:51.26 | Auzhia | Or looking for attention. |
| 02:51.58 | Irishbruin | Thanks legoral very much |
| 02:52.17 | Auzhia | Look guys. |
| 02:52.18 | Cair | Okay, guys, you know I"m usually pretty patient and understanding, so please to forgive me for this out of character action ... |
| 02:52.20 | Auzhia | Just remember this. |
| 02:52.27 | Tain | A kiss is still a kiss |
| 02:52.38 | Auzhia | I don't ask for very much in my family at all. |
| 02:52.39 | Cair | Auzhia, whatEVER, just stop whining, no one wants to listen to it |
| 02:52.44 | Auzhia | ok |
| 02:52.46 | Auzhia | sure thing |
| 02:52.58 | Osagasu | thanks mom. :P |
| 02:53.01 | Auzhia | What's the next order of business in @WoWI-lounge |
| 02:53.07 | kergoth | Frankly, I couldn't care less about your family, much less what you're asking for in it. Tell it to your shink. |
| 02:53.29 | ToastTheif | well |
| 02:53.38 | ToastTheif | usually we would just sit here, not saying much |
| 02:53.51 | ToastTheif | but since you're here, we can argue and whatnot |
| 02:54.03 | Auzhia | Sounds good. |
| 02:54.18 | Auzhia | I like penut butter, and anyone who thinks otherwise is not right! |
| 02:54.23 | Auzhia | peanut even |
| 02:54.34 | kergoth | yay vim, down with emacs! windows sucks! |
| 02:54.36 | End | I think you lie! you have no peanut butter! |
| 02:54.37 | Cair | until someone randomly starts asking a question that starts a debate about the best way to code something, in which case there is a flurry of converation for a while, then it dies down again for a bit |
| 02:54.37 | Osagasu | I'd much prefer some of use stay sane. Emo twists the mind. |
| 02:54.59 | Osagasu | There is no PBJ. |
| 02:55.03 | Tain | Sanity is really just a one-trick pony anyway. |
| 02:55.13 | Auzhia | Anyone care to see my windows? |
| 02:55.58 | Cair | post a link |
| 02:55.58 | ToastTheif | if you mean your desktop, no |
| 02:56.09 | Auzhia | It is an interesting one. |
| 02:56.21 | ToastTheif | actually, yeah |
| 02:56.22 | ToastTheif | I would |
| 02:57.34 | Auzhia | http://img464.imageshack.us/my.php?image=112420052157076xy.jpg |
| 02:57.40 | Auzhia | Keep in mind this is a windows computer. |
| 02:58.36 | ToastTheif | mmm |
| 03:00.47 | ToastTheif | so you have windows, but you made it look like a mac? heh |
| 03:00.57 | Osagasu | hehe, dork. :P |
| 03:01.07 | Auzhia | Yeah. |
| 03:01.13 | ToastTheif | lol |
| 03:01.18 | Auzhia | That is it exactly. |
| 03:01.53 | Auzhia | dork, or computer genius |
| 03:02.30 | Osagasu | nah, just use a skinning program. I know of 4 right off the top of my head. |
| 03:02.51 | ToastTheif | unless you coded your irc program, and drew all those graphics... |
| 03:03.24 | Tain | Tough crowd! |
| 03:03.31 | kergoth | and even then, that doesnt imply genius. i know hundreds of coders, but i wouldnt call any a genius, though some come close |
| 03:03.38 | Auzhia | I made some graphics |
| 03:03.40 | Auzhia | for instance the bar. |
| 03:03.42 | Auzhia | Was mine. |
| 03:03.44 | kergoth | quite a few could do what's in his screenshot, but are incompetent |
| 03:03.46 | Auzhia | But look at those fonts. |
| 03:03.57 | Tain | I'm a genius. |
| 03:04.00 | Auzhia | Only a few people could make fonts that smooth. |
| 03:04.01 | Tain | I just haven't decided at what. |
| 03:05.18 | Tain | I figure why limit myself to just one thing! |
| 03:05.25 | Osagasu | litestep, windowblinds, samuraize, and uhm... okay, three. but I'm looking up the fourth now... T. King has interfaces for it... |
| 03:05.54 | Auzhia | WindowsBlinds, Objectbar, RKLauncher, trillian, chatzilla Avedesk |
| 03:06.05 | Auzhia | but obviously they all require their own skin. |
| 03:06.09 | Tain | Litestep isn't a skinning program though, that's a shell replacement. |
| 03:06.25 | Osagasu | neither is samurize. |
| 03:06.33 | Osagasu | but they basically do that |
| 03:06.47 | kergoth | eh? no, they dont |
| 03:07.07 | Auzhia | They don't. |
| 03:07.17 | Tain | Oh I didn't even see Samurize! Nope, completely different. |
| 03:07.19 | Auzhia | Samurize is a program that lets you make widgets for it. |
| 03:07.23 | Osagasu | Probably working by two definitions of skin here |
| 03:07.26 | Auzhia | It's not even for skinning but is used sometimes for it. |
| 03:07.40 | Tain | Yeah, the right definition and the wrong definition. ;) |
| 03:08.20 | Osagasu | not really. a skin is something that goes on top of the UI to make it work and run differently. both shell replacements and programs like Windowblinds do that |
| 03:08.41 | Osagasu | work=look |
| 03:08.43 | Tain | Nope. |
| 03:08.50 | Tain | Skins just replace the look of what's already there. |
| 03:08.57 | kergoth | nope. litestep doesnt "go on top of the UI", so it isnt by your own definition. It just draws the borders and things differently than explorer. |
| 03:08.59 | kergoth | brb |
| 03:09.08 | Osagasu | ... |
| 03:09.24 | Osagasu | then windowblinds isn't a skinning program, either. |
| 03:09.40 | Auzhia | Windowblinds is a theme program. |
| 03:09.50 | Osagasu | because it makes a number of interface changes in addition to changing the look. |
| 03:09.52 | Auzhia | It changes the windows theme and enhances it. |
| 03:09.57 | Auzhia | Skins just change the look of the interface. |
| 03:10.12 | Osagasu | you all bloody well know what I mean |
| 03:10.21 | Auzhia | For example windowblinds lets you have buttons on the left side |
| 03:10.29 | Auzhia | close minmize and enlarge |
| 03:11.01 | Tain | I'd put Windowblinds in the grey area. |
| 03:11.15 | Tain | Litestep and Samurize, completely different. |
| 03:12.24 | Depherios | I <3 windowblinds XD |
| 03:12.49 | Osagasu | all of them can replace/change the interface to the point of being completely unrecognizable, and don't say they don't. |
| 03:12.49 | Tain | I tried a bunch of different things and realized I don't spend enough time looking at my desktop to make them worthwhile. |
| 03:13.05 | Auzhia | hey guys |
| 03:13.05 | Tain | The method in which they do it is the difference, Osagasu. |
| 03:13.11 | Auzhia | you know a funny first line in prison would be? |
| 03:13.15 | Osagasu | but the result is the same |
| 03:13.21 | Auzhia | Boy, your soul better belong to jesus, cause your ass belongs to me |
| 03:13.28 | End | Tain: I decided that a long time ago. my background is just this blue color. |
| 03:13.43 | Osagasu | my background is porn. |
| 03:13.49 | kergoth | tends to make the system /feel/ faster, at least on windows machines, without a background, as well |
| 03:13.52 | End | I can't really tell you what sort of blue |
| 03:13.52 | kergoth | less crap to redraw |
| 03:14.05 | Tain | But that would mean that a gun and poison are the same thing, Osagasu. The results are the same. |
| 03:14.12 | kergoth | gah, damnit, i hate it when i mine and get stuck trying to loot |
| 03:14.17 | Osagasu | they both kill. |
| 03:14.32 | Tain | I bug those mines and list the loc whenever I come across them, kergoth. |
| 03:14.36 | Tain | And I've yet to see one get fixed. |
| 03:14.40 | kergoth | :( |
| 03:15.09 | Osagasu | they're murder weapons. |
| 03:15.15 | Auzhia | Woah. |
| 03:15.25 | Auzhia | Windowblinds and samurize don't have the same results |
| 03:15.35 | Osagasu | If you code right they do. |
| 03:15.36 | Auzhia | It's like making a calender on your desktop and changing your windows |
| 03:15.37 | Auzhia | not the same |
| 03:15.41 | Auzhia | No way nope nope nope |
| 03:15.54 | kergoth | i'm glad we found something /technical/ to argue about at least |
| 03:15.57 | kergoth | makes one feel all fuzzy |
| 03:15.59 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:16.02 | Auzhia | lol |
| 03:16.07 | Auzhia | Warms your cockles eh? |
| 03:16.14 | kergoth | ~give me a cookie |
| 03:16.15 | purl | ACTION gives kergoth a home-baked oatmeal raisin cookie to cheer him up. |
| 03:16.25 | End | ~give me a waffle |
| 03:16.27 | kergoth | ~botsnack |
| 03:16.27 | purl | kergoth: :) |
| 03:16.35 | End | fine don't give me a waffle you bastard |
| 03:17.00 | End | crickets? |
| 03:17.21 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
| 03:17.23 | purl | Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. |
| 03:17.28 | ToastTheif | ~ToastTheif |
| 03:17.29 | purl | ToastTheif ninjas toast, then logs off. |
| 03:17.41 | Osagasu | http://www.samurize.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3261 <---look at the bottom part of that. Samurize. don't tell me you can't do that in Windowblinds. |
| 03:17.56 | Osagasu | http://www.samurize.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=599 <--here too. |
| 03:19.55 | Osagasu | ~emulate me |
| 03:19.57 | purl | ACTION slaps cladhaire upside the head with a frenic horrid trout of pwnage |
| 03:20.08 | pagefault | yay for once AB is fun |
| 03:20.33 | Osagasu | ~emulate me |
| 03:20.35 | purl | ACTION slaps purl upside the head with a frenic horrid trout of pwnage |
| 03:20.39 | Osagasu | nice. |
| 03:20.55 | kergoth | ~rlart |
| 03:20.59 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:21.07 | kergoth | ~factinfo rlart |
| 03:21.07 | purl | rlart -- created by BZFlag <timr@rikers.org> at Mon Dec 9 22:10:37 2002 (1081 days); it has been requested 348 times, last by kergoth, 10s ago. |
| 03:21.21 | Osagasu | ~literal rlart |
| 03:21.23 | purl | "rlart" is "<reply> see lart $randnick" |
| 03:21.27 | kergoth | :) |
| 03:21.35 | Osagasu | ~literal rlart kergoth |
| 03:21.42 | Osagasu | XD |
| 03:21.45 | kergoth | 'rlart kergoth' would be a CMD: factoid |
| 03:21.48 | kergoth | 'rlart' is independnet |
| 03:22.18 | kergoth | hmm, wonder if this energy ticker is worth using, for a rogue |
| 03:22.32 | kergoth | can just watch the buttons for when they become available, but thats probably too slow |
| 03:22.37 | kergoth | i want to avoid button mashing |
| 03:22.45 | zeeg | O.o |
| 03:23.01 | zeeg | since when does windowblinds show data stuff |
| 03:23.02 | Osagasu | ~slap zeeg |
| 03:23.03 | purl | ACTION slaps zeeg, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 03:23.04 | Auzhia | so.. |
| 03:23.05 | Osagasu | back to coding! |
| 03:23.07 | zeeg | oh you mean the taskarea |
| 03:23.15 | ToastTheif | Zeeg! |
| 03:23.17 | Osagasu | I didn't say it did |
| 03:23.19 | zeeg | how the hell can you have such a clean desktop |
| 03:23.25 | Osagasu | but if you don't want them there you don't have to have them there. |
| 03:23.30 | zeeg | my desktop has more icons on it then it can show |
| 03:23.34 | Tain | I pretty much have all the Rogue stuff on a mental timer, kergoth. |
| 03:23.52 | ToastTheif | Zeeg, when are you updating WoWGuru so I can see all the new items? =P |
| 03:24.01 | Depherios | my desktop has NO icons |
| 03:24.02 | Osagasu | I'd show you a pic of my desktop, but cair would ban me. |
| 03:24.05 | Depherios | not even the trash |
| 03:24.09 | Depherios | (recycle bin as it were) |
| 03:24.11 | Cair | not likely |
| 03:24.15 | Cair | link it, let's see |
| 03:24.18 | zeeg | ToastTheif, they're there |
| 03:25.05 | zeeg | http://www.davidcramer.net/gallery.php?do=viewimage&id=10 |
| 03:25.09 | zeeg | zee workspace! |
| 03:25.20 | zeeg | and i always have at minimum that many windows open :P |
| 03:25.43 | ToastTheif | Zeeg |
| 03:25.48 | ToastTheif | I mean like you did for 1.9 |
| 03:25.51 | ToastTheif | 1.8* |
| 03:25.55 | ToastTheif | have it all organized |
| 03:25.58 | zeeg | oh |
| 03:26.02 | zeeg | the zulgurub page you mean? |
| 03:26.02 | ToastTheif | and whatnot |
| 03:26.05 | ToastTheif | ya |
| 03:26.13 | zeeg | basically the "1.9 changes" page is SUPPOSED to do that, but its not functioning quite yet |
| 03:26.43 | ToastTheif | k |
| 03:26.55 | zeeg | my quest pages are going to look soo hot |
| 03:27.00 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/quests/armor-kits-for-the-field-id8787/ |
| 03:27.05 | zeeg | i gotta extend the width of the right col |
| 03:27.09 | zeeg | but in the left below all that above more info |
| 03:27.26 | zeeg | its going to show maps for everything, tooltip size maps (smallest ones), itll have maps for start/stop location, and maps for where you can get each item/kill each mob |
| 03:27.59 | zeeg | On that note, while I'm here what do you think: http://www.wowguru.com/db/map.php?typeID=1&recordID=289&zoneID=10&sizeID=2 - http://www.wowguru.com/db/map.php?typeID=1&recordID=2164&zoneID=148&sizeID=2 |
| 03:30.05 | Osagasu | so Zeeg, if you've been banned why do you still have the WoW proggy on your computer? :P |
| 03:30.22 | End | I thought it was just from forums? |
| 03:30.28 | zeeg | Osagasu, im only banned from forums |
| 03:30.33 | zeeg | + i hae other accounts |
| 03:31.18 | kergoth | Tain: i'm getting there, but itd be nice to have a better visual cue for reaching the threshold energy amounts to use certain abilities |
| 03:31.19 | kergoth | hmm |
| 03:32.37 | Osagasu | I have lost all faith in zeeg |
| 03:32.54 | Osagasu | he has Scott Staph stuff. |
| 03:33.04 | ToastTheif | why did u get banned Zeeg? |
| 03:33.09 | kergoth | hmm, you know... |
| 03:33.28 | zeeg | "unreleased content" |
| 03:33.32 | zeeg | i dont like scott stapp |
| 03:33.35 | Cair | rofl, Lyre agrees with me, emo |
| 03:33.36 | zeeg | those are the temporary folders for my pirated music |
| 03:33.39 | zeeg | im too lazy to delete :) |
| 03:34.08 | Osagasu | heh |
| 03:34.12 | ToastTheif | Im confused |
| 03:34.17 | Osagasu | keydown del enter... |
| 03:34.18 | Osagasu | keydown del enter... |
| 03:34.18 | ToastTheif | where is the unreleased content |
| 03:34.19 | Osagasu | keydown del enter... |
| 03:34.25 | Osagasu | keyright del enter... |
| 03:34.32 | Osagasu | ;) |
| 03:35.13 | Osagasu | lesee... 6 or 7 different emulators... |
| 03:35.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Krirken (n=nintendo@ool-44c7662c.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:35.35 | kergoth | hmm, it does help using redrange or rangerecolor, coloring a lack of energy/mana blue |
| 03:35.38 | Cair | then find a different channel to ask about it in |
| 03:35.50 | Krirken | Hello |
| 03:35.57 | Cair | hi kri |
| 03:36.03 | Cair | Krirken, even |
| 03:36.03 | Osagasu | it #azgalor on wowirc |
| 03:36.08 | Krirken | happy thanks giving! |
| 03:36.38 | Cair | and to you :) |
| 03:36.55 | ToastTheif | huh |
| 03:37.03 | ToastTheif | we can't talk about why Zeeg was banned in here |
| 03:37.04 | ToastTheif | ? |
| 03:37.11 | Cair | not what I said |
| 03:37.28 | Osagasu | no, we can't talk about the unreleased content |
| 03:37.32 | ToastTheif | http://www.freewebs.com/toastasd/temp.htm - my awesome desktop |
| 03:37.40 | Cair | wanting to see it means wanting a link to it, and that I don't want in here |
| 03:37.41 | ToastTheif | that's why Im asking, heh |
| 03:37.47 | ToastTheif | I was confused |
| 03:38.07 | zeeg | ? |
| 03:38.08 | Cair | talking about stuff in abstract is fine |
| 03:38.15 | ToastTheif | ok |
| 03:38.17 | zeeg | oh |
| 03:38.20 | zeeg | it wasnt unreleased |
| 03:38.23 | zeeg | thats just the reason they gave me |
| 03:38.27 | ToastTheif | what was it? |
| 03:38.28 | Cair | or in hypothetical |
| 03:38.34 | Osagasu | who's this "Bethany" |
| 03:38.36 | zeeg | search for Foror's Fabeled steed |
| 03:38.54 | ToastTheif | oh she's in the screenie heh |
| 03:39.04 | ToastTheif | just a friend |
| 03:39.16 | Osagasu | just a friend, eh? |
| 03:39.36 | Cair | like "iit's hypothetically possible that you can scan the minimap for yadayada" is fine, but "you *can* scan the minimap for, and this is how you do it", isn't fine |
| 03:39.55 | ToastTheif | mhmm Osagasu |
| 03:39.55 | Cair | just using minimap as example :p |
| 03:40.28 | ToastTheif | for one she's on the other side of the country as me |
| 03:40.28 | zeeg | i datamined the minimaps |
| 03:40.40 | ToastTheif | and when we did live in the same town, we were always just friends ;) |
| 03:40.50 | zeeg | All you gotta do is download the patented Blizz-will-ban-you (c) Toolkit |
| 03:40.59 | ToastTheif | I wouldn't want to have been more than that anyway |
| 03:41.00 | Osagasu | Hey, I know some German chicks... :P |
| 03:41.14 | ToastTheif | Im not German, but sure |
| 03:41.21 | Cair | is that that really hot goth chick you showed me before Toast? |
| 03:41.26 | Osagasu | no, I meant that literally |
| 03:41.53 | ToastTheif | I showed you a really hot goth chic? *confused* |
| 03:42.07 | ToastTheif | I don't remember meeting any really hot goth chics |
| 03:42.09 | ToastTheif | well |
| 03:42.15 | Osagasu | hey everyone, zeeg is CrmrDvd on AIM! :P |
| 03:42.17 | ToastTheif | ok, nvm that |
| 03:42.19 | Cair | maybe it wasn't you, I thought it was |
| 03:42.28 | zeeg | O.o |
| 03:42.30 | zeeg | howd you figure that out |
| 03:42.34 | zeeg | oh |
| 03:42.38 | zeeg | well it says on my profiles i guess |
| 03:43.18 | ToastTheif | but she isn't hot in my standards anyway |
| 03:44.00 | Cair | maybe it was indu that showed me |
| 03:45.02 | Tain | Are you sure it wasn't just a picture stolen from suicidegirls.com? There's some really hot goth chicks there. |
| 03:45.17 | kergoth | hmmm.. acecombathud may be sufficient for my energy/combo point visual cue needs |
| 03:46.07 | Osagasu | lets see if I can find my AIM handle and password... |
| 03:46.36 | Osagasu | just so I can go bug zeeg |
| 03:47.08 | ToastTheif | I like my uber background |
| 03:47.12 | ToastTheif | Starcraft :) |
| 03:47.15 | Osagasu | I know |
| 03:49.00 | Osagasu | Aim shouldn't take this long to download... |
| 03:50.10 | ToastTheif | oh noes |
| 03:50.16 | ToastTheif | hope u aren't dling the new one |
| 03:50.29 | ToastTheif | it's so evil |
| 03:50.45 | ToastTheif | stick to the boring windows 95 looking one |
| 03:50.56 | Osagasu | :? |
| 03:51.03 | Osagasu | elaborate. |
| 03:51.25 | ToastTheif | the beta of the new AIM is eviiiiiil |
| 03:51.35 | Cair | no, this isn't the image I was talking about, btw :p |
| 03:51.35 | Osagasu | well I didn't get a beta.... |
| 03:51.36 | Cair | http://www.cairenn-mmorpg.com/images/lyre/glamshot.jpg |
| 03:51.46 | ToastTheif | ok, good |
| 03:52.01 | Depherios | Trillian FTW |
| 03:52.14 | ToastTheif | is that u or something Cair? |
| 03:52.36 | Cair | my daughter ... last march break |
| 03:52.40 | ToastTheif | I still haven't found a program for all my chatting needs that I like very well |
| 03:52.44 | ToastTheif | ah |
| 03:52.48 | Tain | Sorry Cair, she's a bit young for me. |
| 03:52.48 | Tain | ;) |
| 03:52.57 | Cair | damn right she is Tain |
| 03:53.03 | Depherios | lol |
| 03:53.12 | Cair | I'm have you locked up so fast you wouldn't know what hit you |
| 03:53.27 | ToastTheif | I perfer my girl friend, but that's just me =P |
| 03:53.31 | Cair | s/I'm/I'd/ |
| 03:53.59 | ToastTheif | that looks funny with aphostrophes |
| 03:54.03 | ToastTheif | sp? |
| 03:54.03 | Osagasu | your daughter looks like one of my friends. |
| 03:54.03 | Cair | heh, Stylpe is going to cry when he realizes that he missed it |
| 03:54.07 | Osagasu | hell, looks like almost all of my friends, if you go by just clothes. |
| 03:54.12 | Cair | he's been bugging me to see a pic of her forever |
| 03:54.26 | Osagasu | Damn, I did get the evil one |
| 03:54.30 | Osagasu | fuck fuck |
| 03:54.38 | ToastTheif | lolol |
| 03:54.52 | ToastTheif | the one that installs that uber browser? |
| 03:55.01 | Osagasu | ya, sadly |
| 03:55.11 | Osagasu | its not in beta anymore... |
| 03:55.15 | ToastTheif | lollerskates |
| 03:55.19 | ToastTheif | oh, ouch |
| 03:55.23 | ToastTheif | I haven't upgraded |
| 03:55.27 | ToastTheif | so I wouldn't know |
| 03:55.47 | Osagasu | well, I set it so Firefox is sitll my default browser... |
| 03:55.52 | pagefault | hah I love hellfire |
| 03:55.56 | pagefault | I kill myself |
| 03:56.00 | pagefault | so they can get no honor |
| 03:56.04 | kergoth | hah |
| 03:56.30 | ToastTheif | mmm |
| 03:56.40 | ToastTheif | I have to start getting ready for my new computers |
| 03:56.53 | Osagasu | HET ZEEG |
| 03:56.57 | ToastTheif | what version of linux should I use, any suggestions? |
| 03:57.28 | ToastTheif | only thing I have experiance with is Fedora Core |
| 03:57.43 | ToastTheif | that was fun... |
| 03:57.56 | ToastTheif | I made my CD ROM drive open and close, open and close |
| 03:58.15 | ToastTheif | and then I made it go *BEEP* *BEEP* *BEEP* and so on |
| 03:58.46 | Tain | That's pretty crappy, pagefault. |
| 03:58.46 | pagefault | working as intended |
| 03:58.52 | ToastTheif | common Ker, I know you know about Linux |
| 03:59.03 | Tain | Ubuntu is his stock answer, I believe. |
| 03:59.22 | kergoth | yeah, ubuntu would be my recommendation |
| 03:59.30 | ToastTheif | never heard of it |
| 03:59.36 | kergoth | it combines solid ease of use with a powerful, flexible base distribution |
| 03:59.46 | kergoth | debian based |
| 03:59.55 | kergoth | but with a more polished UI and stuff, and more updated packages |
| 04:00.01 | Tain | If I ever end up doing a full reinstall I'll either do Ubunto or go back to FreeBSD which was my first love. |
| 04:00.29 | pagefault | actually |
| 04:00.35 | End | mmm....FreeBSD |
| 04:00.39 | pagefault | I think it only stops them from getting a killing blow |
| 04:00.39 | pagefault | they still get honor |
| 04:00.43 | pagefault | but still |
| 04:00.56 | Tain | It's still shitty, pagefault. |
| 04:01.14 | Tain | Fight like a man, die like a man. |
| 04:01.18 | pagefault | yeah well it's not my fault my aoe spells kills myself |
| 04:01.22 | kergoth | that reminds me of back when i played fps games, in quake 1, there's this mod called Severed |
| 04:01.30 | kergoth | you can blow/cut each others limbs off |
| 04:01.34 | kergoth | pick them up adn beat each otehr with em |
| 04:01.38 | Tain | Nice. |
| 04:01.53 | kergoth | so i'd be sliding along the ground inching towards the water, with no limbs at all, to commit suicide so they dont get the kill |
| 04:01.57 | zeeg | ? |
| 04:01.57 | kergoth | :D |
| 04:01.57 | kergoth | it was awesome |
| 04:02.01 | kergoth | they need to do that for quake 3/4 |
| 04:02.12 | Cair | rofl kergoth |
| 04:02.25 | pagefault | just like it's not my fault if my doomguard goes nuts and kills people in the AH :) |
| 04:02.38 | kergoth | i loved grabbing the quad damage when i had no limbs with which to use it :) |
| 04:02.42 | Tain | It's people like you that ruin the game, pagefault. |
| 04:02.45 | kergoth | running around with legs and no arms |
| 04:02.53 | pagefault | why is that |
| 04:03.00 | pagefault | they allow us to do it |
| 04:03.06 | pagefault | talk to bliz if you don't like it |
| 04:03.06 | zeeg | im so tired :| |
| 04:03.11 | Tain | No, I'm talking to you. |
| 04:03.15 | Tain | You don't have to do it. |
| 04:03.20 | Tain | You're doing it just to be an ass. |
| 04:03.25 | pagefault | I have every right to use my spells |
| 04:03.29 | Cair | Grr. Bark. Bark. Grr. You've ruined your own lands, you'll not ruin ours! Grr. Bark. Bark. Grr. |
| 04:03.36 | kergoth | http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/WOW/wow_sshot66.jpg current layout |
| 04:03.37 | kergoth | not too bad |
| 04:03.47 | ToastTheif | Tain |
| 04:04.00 | ToastTheif | he's probally just having fun |
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| 04:04.03 | kergoth | still need to play with visor's button management to get things switching around dynamically |
| 04:04.08 | Tain | Having fun at other people's expense. |
| 04:04.20 | ToastTheif | Hell, I'd find it amusing to let loose a doom gaurd on the AH |
| 04:04.26 | Tain | It isn't. |
| 04:04.28 | ToastTheif | it's the intranet |
| 04:04.31 | pagefault | it just shows how useless the pets are |
| 04:04.53 | Cair | man, what's with all the cranky today? |
| 04:05.07 | Cair | too much turkey or something :p |
| 04:05.11 | Tain | ~emulate me |
| 04:05.12 | purl | ACTION slaps Mondinga upside the head with a frenic horrid trout of pwnage |
| 04:05.13 | ToastTheif | not bad Ker, what unit frames are you using? |
| 04:05.22 | Tain | I guess no one fixed that. |
| 04:05.28 | Cair | lol |
| 04:05.40 | kergoth | those are aceperl, thisterhall's rework of nymbia's perl unitframes |
| 04:05.44 | pagefault | hehe |
| 04:05.46 | kergoth | i like that it puts the player buffs and weapon buffs on the player frame |
| 04:05.48 | pagefault | I was just trying to make a point |
| 04:05.52 | Osagasu | anyone else have aim? |
| 04:06.14 | Cair | lalalalalalalalalalalalala |
| 04:06.19 | Cair | *bored* |
| 04:06.24 | Osagasu | ooor Yahoo/ MSN? >.> |
| 04:06.34 | ToastTheif | you can't customize where the buffs go though? |
| 04:06.48 | Depherios | 46664424, Depherios, Depherios@hotmail.com |
| 04:06.51 | ToastTheif | I like to have just the player and target showing buffs |
| 04:06.57 | Depherios | Depherios if for yahoo and aim |
| 04:07.02 | Depherios | lol |
| 04:07.09 | Depherios | oop |
| 04:07.15 | Depherios | 46674424 |
| 04:07.20 | Osagasu | the only person I get to reply is the person I don't know, lovely. >.> |
| 04:07.26 | Depherios | YUP |
| 04:07.29 | Depherios | isn't it fantastic? |
| 04:07.34 | Osagasu | not really. |
| 04:07.37 | Depherios | lol |
| 04:07.41 | Osagasu | Oh well, there's always next time. |
| 04:07.58 | Depherios | lol |
| 04:08.04 | Osagasu | 5 |
| 04:08.04 | Osagasu | 4 |
| 04:08.05 | Osagasu | 3 |
| 04:08.05 | Osagasu | 2 |
| 04:08.06 | Osagasu | 1 |
| 04:08.10 | Osagasu | anyone else have aim? |
| 04:08.11 | End | BEWM? |
| 04:08.16 | Osagasu | ;) |
| 04:08.21 | End | PEW PEW PEW |
| 04:08.32 | Osagasu | I don't care about yours, Cair |
| 04:08.42 | Osagasu | you're too oooooldd. :P |
| 04:08.56 | Cair | listen, don't you frigging start |
| 04:08.58 | Osagasu | people over 30 don't make it on my list |
| 04:09.10 | Depherios | lol |
| 04:09.12 | Cair | bad enough I have to put up with that shit from zeeg, I don't need to hear it from you, too :p |
| 04:09.13 | kergoth | i'm always on aim/yahoo/icq/irc/msn/jabber |
| 04:09.25 | Osagasu | trillian, eh? |
| 04:09.27 | Depherios | oh, I'm always on, I just don't pay attention |
| 04:09.30 | kergoth | gaim, actually |
| 04:09.31 | Cair | same here kergoth, all but jabber |
| 04:09.35 | kergoth | though irc is a seperate client |
| 04:09.42 | Osagasu | jabber is the best |
| 04:09.45 | Depherios | I WAS on Jabber.... |
| 04:09.52 | Depherios | but nobody I knew was on it, so I stopped bothering |
| 04:09.55 | Osagasu | the UI community needs a jabber server |
| 04:09.56 | kergoth | jabber is still the best. |
| 04:10.00 | kergoth | google's new client uses it :P |
| 04:10.07 | Osagasu | I have it somewhere |
| 04:10.07 | Depherios | I miss ICQ |
| 04:10.09 | kergoth | speaking of which, google's messenger is really, really nice |
| 04:10.13 | Depherios | ... I mean. it's still around, but now it's just AIM |
| 04:10.14 | kergoth | if you all havent tried it, check it out |
| 04:10.22 | End | I need to play with the google messenger |
| 04:10.22 | ToastTheif | I've tried it once |
| 04:10.24 | kergoth | if you already have a gmail account, you can use that to log on |
| 04:10.34 | ToastTheif | but none of my friends use it =/ |
| 04:10.40 | Osagasu | http://www.google.com/talk/ |
| 04:10.56 | kergoth | i'm slowly getting the entire family on it |
| 04:11.08 | kergoth | makes voice and stuff really convenient |
| 04:11.10 | Osagasu | oookay |
| 04:11.15 | kergoth | more so than the alternatives, while being all minimal and spiffy |
| 04:11.17 | kergoth | :) |
| 04:11.52 | ToastTheif | yeah |
| 04:11.53 | Osagasu | my MSN is chrono_overlord@hotmail.com, my Yahoo is SirKronus, my AIM is KronusOverlord, and Google Talk is... chrono.overlord, I believe. |
| 04:11.54 | ToastTheif | I liked it |
| 04:11.55 | Osagasu | There |
| 04:12.06 | Osagasu | oh, and my XFire is Osagasu |
| 04:12.07 | ToastTheif | but my friends are spread out between MSN and AIM |
| 04:12.20 | kergoth | my grandma is still on msn, and most of my friends are on aim, too |
| 04:12.22 | kergoth | sucks |
| 04:12.26 | kergoth | need to pester them incessently |
| 04:12.28 | kergoth | into switching |
| 04:12.33 | ToastTheif | and I have too many RL friends that are computer nubs and know nothing about anything |
| 04:12.46 | kergoth | it is easy to use though :) |
| 04:12.57 | Cair | I don't have a gmail account, so no go for me :p |
| 04:13.00 | ToastTheif | oh, but aim is the pwn |
| 04:13.16 | Osagasu | hmm |
| 04:13.21 | Osagasu | I'll send you a link. |
| 04:13.21 | End | your invites are refreshed once a day or so |
| 04:13.24 | End | you'll always have 100 |
| 04:13.30 | ToastTheif | seriously, all of my friends upstate use AIM, all of them downstate use MSN |
| 04:13.46 | kergoth | Cair: yeah, if you want an invite, any of us can send you one |
| 04:13.48 | End | I remember when you had to -wait- to have 6 invites or whatever |
| 04:13.54 | kergoth | over like 2 gigs of space per user for mail |
| 04:14.01 | Osagasu | I have the link copied, just say the word and I can paste it to you |
| 04:14.08 | Cair | go for it |
| 04:14.09 | kergoth | there's even a linux filesystem so i can drag files back and forth between the mailbox and local :D |
| 04:14.11 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:15.02 | kergoth | ooh, wow crashes on logout again |
| 04:15.04 | kergoth | thats always fun |
| 04:15.20 | kergoth | wonder if there's a cycle in one of the saved vars |
| 04:18.30 | Krirken | Soo |
| 04:18.47 | Krirken | How were these supposed data-mined items found? |
| 04:20.24 | ToastTheif | through data-mining... |
| 04:21.00 | End | lol |
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| 04:25.06 | Cair | hey Legorol :) |
| 04:25.16 | Legorol | hi |
| 04:25.21 | Legorol | connection troubles :( |
| 04:25.35 | Legorol | btw, i have just noticed something curious |
| 04:25.43 | Legorol | the password field on login screen doesn't seem to be case sensitive |
| 04:25.56 | Legorol | i have accidentally mistyped the case of my password and still let me in, so i doublechecked |
| 04:26.08 | Legorol | i am cross at Blizzard for overlooking such basic security measures, |
| 04:26.20 | Legorol | especially after you are told to create a password with both lower and uppercase letters |
| 04:26.50 | Depherios | ROFL |
| 04:27.09 | Depherios | fantastic, so my password which is secure more for it's upper and lower case use... isn't secure worth a crap? joy of joys |
| 04:29.34 | Legorol | hm, i went to the password change page, and they no longer advise you to use both lower and uppercase |
| 04:33.23 | Guillotine | ya. i noticed that too |
| 04:33.29 | Guillotine | and on patch day, password doesnt matter at all |
| 04:33.41 | Guillotine | you can type anything in and dl the patch |
| 04:33.53 | ToastTheif | hey Ker |
| 04:34.07 | ToastTheif | is there anything like bad about Fedora? |
| 04:34.29 | Guillotine | whos Fedora/ |
| 04:35.17 | ToastTheif | ... |
| 04:35.22 | ToastTheif | it's a Linux OS |
| 04:35.31 | Guillotine | ~linux |
| 04:35.34 | purl | i heard linux is wonderfull :D, or a wonderfull OS |
| 04:35.34 | pagefault | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/Ziur/yarly.jpg |
| 04:35.34 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 04:35.52 | ToastTheif | I still want to see Orly |
| 04:35.57 | ToastTheif | I heard he was in the game too |
| 04:35.59 | Guillotine | ~o rly? |
| 04:36.01 | purl | ACTION slaps guillotine upside the head |
| 04:36.01 | End | haha |
| 04:36.05 | Guillotine | nooo |
| 04:36.11 | End | that's awesome |
| 04:36.12 | Guillotine | purl, no, o rly is <reply> YA RLY |
| 04:36.13 | purl | okay, Guillotine |
| 04:36.18 | Guillotine | ~o rly? |
| 04:36.19 | purl | YA RLY |
| 04:36.33 | Cair | purl, no, o rly is <action> slaps $name upside the head |
| 04:36.34 | purl | okay, Cair |
| 04:36.38 | Guillotine | noooo |
| 04:36.40 | Guillotine | cair... |
| 04:37.07 | Guillotine | waiting. for. WSG |
| 04:37.13 | Guillotine | >< |
| 04:37.29 | Osagasu | ~o rly? |
| 04:37.31 | purl | ACTION slaps osagasu several times across the face before kidney punching them and pulling out a shotgun to blow their brains out |
| 04:37.31 | Guillotine | purl, dance |
| 04:37.32 | purl | ACTION does a disco dance. |
| 04:37.36 | pagefault | no one plays WSG anymore on my server |
| 04:37.37 | pagefault | it's all AB |
| 04:37.50 | Guillotine | on my server its 40- = WSG, 40+ = AB or AV |
| 04:37.58 | Guillotine | im playing on my 19 hunter |
| 04:38.55 | Osagasu | now try it, Guillotine |
| 04:40.03 | Osagasu | ~o rly? |
| 04:40.04 | purl | ACTION slaps osagasu several times across the face before kidney punching them and pulling out a shotgun to blow their brains out: "Ya rly!" |
| 04:40.07 | Osagasu | ^_^ |
| 04:40.11 | Osagasu | okay, I'm done |
| 04:43.29 | kergoth | hehe, so fun. 5 people in my guild and another stuck into IF and hid in a building and started summoning folks in, the alliance are running around like chickens with their heads cut off :) |
| 04:43.36 | kergoth | erm, s/stuck/snuck/ |
| 04:44.14 | Osagasu | what server? |
| 04:44.35 | kergoth | suramar |
| 04:44.36 | kergoth | good fun |
| 04:45.08 | Legorol | US or EU? |
| 04:45.18 | Osagasu | that too |
| 04:45.24 | Osagasu | and character name |
| 04:45.27 | Legorol | oh wait, EU doesnn't have Suramar, does it? |
| 04:45.45 | kergoth | it's US. |
| 04:45.47 | Osagasu | he's in US (camcast ftl) |
| 04:45.51 | Osagasu | *cumcast |
| 04:45.56 | Osagasu | no typot there. |
| 04:46.14 | Osagasu | aww |
| 04:46.20 | Osagasu | skeered him off |
| 04:46.32 | End | you are skeery |
| 04:48.16 | Osagasu | kergoth |
| 04:48.22 | Osagasu | what's your character name? |
| 04:48.58 | kergoth | Beyoterk |
| 04:55.45 | Osagasu | I should call my aunt in Denver and get the character names of my family members thta play WoW... |
| 04:57.26 | Osagasu | I need to bloody keep track of them |
| 04:57.34 | Osagasu | only see em once every two years. ;_____; |
| 05:00.56 | End | oh neat, apparently you can use a mount in UC now |
| 05:02.09 | Depherios | that'll make people like UC a ot more |
| 05:03.34 | End | yeah |
| 05:03.40 | End | that's my biggest complaint |
| 05:06.59 | kergoth | 20 man raid inside of ironforge, hiding in a building. they wipe us, we get kills, all mass rez, kill more, rinse, repeat |
| 05:07.01 | kergoth | good fun |
| 05:07.38 | Osagasu | I still want in on that |
| 05:08.06 | kergoth | didnt want to waste a shard, have a shortage of locks to summon |
| 05:08.28 | Osagasu | kill people your level, they PvP gives shards now |
| 05:09.39 | kergoth | yeah, i think they are |
| 05:09.43 | kergoth | haha, we tried to run for the tram |
| 05:09.46 | kergoth | didnt work so well |
| 05:09.57 | Osagasu | oops |
| 05:11.17 | kergoth | i forgot to ghost wolf. i'm a dumbass |
| 05:11.59 | Osagasu | yes. |
| 05:12.29 | kergoth | for that matter, natures swiftness = instant ghost wolf. |
| 05:12.30 | kergoth | ~bad kergoth |
| 05:12.32 | purl | Bad kergoth, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 05:14.18 | End | wooow...UC has a lot of auctioneers |
| 05:14.24 | Depherios | lol |
| 05:14.40 | Osagasu | including yarly |
| 05:14.48 | End | yea |
| 05:14.54 | End | and I got randomly dismounted |
| 05:15.02 | End | they didn't fix the dismountyness completely |
| 05:15.37 | Osagasu | well some places will be considered indoors still |
| 05:15.49 | Osagasu | namely small areas |
| 05:16.09 | End | the ring where the auctioneers are...a random section of the floor is indoors |
| 05:17.08 | End | actually, it looks like 4 seconds are |
| 05:17.20 | Osagasu | well why should the UC have outdoor AH? |
| 05:17.24 | End | it's consistant at least |
| 05:17.41 | End | it's not where the auctioneers themselves are... |
| 05:18.09 | kergoth | Osagasu: a few of us made it through the tram portal |
| 05:18.14 | kergoth | got slaughtered in there, but.. good fun |
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| 05:18.40 | ToastTheif | #linux |
| 05:18.51 | End | basically the center area has a ring right outside |
| 05:19.07 | End | umm |
| 05:19.11 | End | well, it's hard to explain |
| 05:19.21 | End | anyways, there are these ramps, and the auctioneers are on these ramps |
| 05:19.31 | End | and the ramps are on the inner walls |
| 05:22.57 | Legorol | Auctioneer O'realy or something like that is in Booty Bay |
| 05:23.02 | Legorol | cracked me up |
| 05:23.04 | End | hahaha |
| 05:23.24 | ToastTheif | oh |
| 05:23.28 | ToastTheif | is there a SS of that? |
| 05:23.38 | Legorol | nope, but you can go there yourself :p |
| 05:23.48 | ToastTheif | well |
| 05:23.51 | ToastTheif | I can't |
| 05:24.45 | Osagasu | I can on my priest |
| 05:24.55 | Legorol | you should'be able to go to BB on *any* character |
| 05:24.58 | ToastTheif | no, I mean I don't have a computer that can run WoW |
| 05:25.02 | Legorol | ouch |
| 05:25.07 | ToastTheif | I haven't for the past 3-4 months |
| 05:25.14 | Legorol | even more ouch |
| 05:26.11 | Osagasu | OMG |
| 05:26.32 | Osagasu | Tip: A Priest, a Paladin, and Varimathras walk into a bar... |
| 05:26.39 | Osagasu | Yes, it actually said that |
| 05:26.49 | End | o_O |
| 05:26.53 | Legorol | that is hilarious |
| 05:26.59 | Legorol | the new Tip thing on the loading screen |
| 05:27.07 | Legorol | it usually has banal stuff like: |
| 05:27.18 | Legorol | the mail icon on your minimap indicates there is new mail in your inbox |
| 05:27.22 | Legorol | and such things |
| 05:27.25 | End | they have two funny ones currently |
| 05:27.31 | Osagasu | and there are FUCKING HUMAN PALLYS RUNNING AROUND ON WAR KODOS |
| 05:27.32 | Legorol | what's the other one? |
| 05:27.37 | Osagasu | O.O |
| 05:27.42 | End | Osagasu: bug |
| 05:27.55 | End | seal of righteousness does that somehow or something. |
| 05:27.59 | End | I dunno |
| 05:28.05 | End | I've seen it a couple times already. |
| 05:28.44 | Osagasu | Half the pallys are on war kodos here |
| 05:30.37 | kergoth | haha, the GM of my guild logs on and goes "Can't I leave you people alone for one day??" when told about our IF raid |
| 05:30.38 | kergoth | :D |
| 05:30.56 | Cair | lol |
| 05:31.01 | Osagasu | hehe |
| 05:31.24 | kergoth | our escape plan is, and i quote "res and hop on the tram" |
| 05:31.36 | End | sounds good to me |
| 05:35.52 | Osagasu | almost to BB |
| 05:36.11 | Osagasu | Pallys on KOOOOOOOOOOODOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS! |
| 05:37.37 | zeeg | hdd[274.95GB Free, 635.21GB Total] |
| 05:37.38 | zeeg | hrm |
| 05:37.47 | Depherios | lol |
| 05:38.25 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 05:38.26 | kergoth | i got on the tram |
| 05:38.30 | kergoth | jumped off between sw & if |
| 05:38.33 | kergoth | mana'ing up, alive |
| 05:38.36 | kergoth | good fun |
| 05:38.42 | End | I've done that |
| 05:38.43 | kergoth | now to find someone to kill |
| 05:39.03 | kergoth | i know, i'm easily entertained |
| 05:39.04 | End | I spent like 20 minutes on in the trap once |
| 05:39.08 | kergoth | :) |
| 05:39.14 | End | it was very much good fun |
| 05:39.14 | End | er |
| 05:39.17 | End | tram, not trap |
| 05:39.48 | End | I think we originally tried to kill the gnome king |
| 05:40.09 | Osagasu | screenie of BB Auctioneer taken, moving to Ratchet |
| 05:45.01 | Osagasu | hmm |
| 05:45.19 | Osagasu | I can't find the ratchet Auctionerr |
| 05:45.53 | kergoth | huh, didnt notice |
| 05:45.57 | kergoth | can unflag in the tram. thats cool |
| 05:46.06 | kergoth | time to go mock some alliance via emotes before i head to org |
| 05:46.45 | Depherios | lol |
| 05:47.05 | kergoth | mocking them in their own subway system, thats just amusing |
| 05:47.19 | kergoth | next time i need to stock up on invis and free action potions and the like |
| 05:50.42 | Osagasu | there isn't one in Ratchet... |
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| 05:57.56 | Legorol | BB Inkeeper's name: Nixxraxx Fillamug |
| 05:57.59 | Legorol | just noticed the surname, lol |
| 05:58.24 | Osagasu | ? |
| 05:59.28 | Legorol | an innkeeper that's named Fill-a-mug |
| 05:59.40 | kergoth | nice |
| 05:59.46 | Legorol | i thought that was funny |
| 06:00.16 | Cair | I still always chuckle every time I see Chief Engineer Scooty in BB |
| 06:00.32 | Legorol | that too |
| 06:00.37 | Cair | Beam me up Scooty ;) |
| 06:00.40 | Legorol | and what's the one in Gnomeregan? |
| 06:00.50 | Legorol | there is also a funny teleporter goblin in Gnomer |
| 06:00.55 | Cair | yeah? |
| 06:00.59 | Legorol | can't remember his name |
| 06:01.12 | Cair | trying to remember ... |
| 06:01.25 | Legorol | it was also something funny |
| 06:01.29 | Cair | *nod* |
| 06:01.45 | Cair | Heading out? |
| 06:01.57 | Legorol | sleep |
| 06:02.03 | Cair | sweet dreams :) |
| 06:03.29 | End | Sprock? |
| 06:04.59 | End | (the away team) |
| 06:06.25 | Cair | time for me to head off to bed also |
| 06:06.26 | Cair | night all |
| 06:06.40 | Osagasu | nini |
| 06:06.44 | Iriel | Nite Cair |
| 06:07.24 | Cair|sleep | hope dinner was good Iriel :) |
| 06:07.34 | End | was it...TASTY? |
| 06:08.03 | Iriel | It was indeed good and tasty. |
| 06:08.13 | End | oh, that's good to hear |
| 06:08.14 | Iriel | I haven't decided if I ate too much yet |
| 06:08.26 | Cair|sleep | lol |
| 06:08.55 | Cair|sleep | You are still conscious and mobile ... you didn't eat too much |
| 06:09.02 | Cair|sleep | ;) |
| 06:09.45 | Iriel | well, maybe |
| 06:09.53 | Iriel | Though coffee has some part in that |
| 06:09.58 | Cair|sleep | *chuckle* |
| 06:10.52 | Iriel | I certainly wont be CODING this evening |
| 06:11.23 | End | no, you'll be DEBUGGING |
| 06:11.23 | Cair|sleep | heh |
| 06:11.33 | End | ;P |
| 06:11.45 | Iriel | Heh, only other peoples' code |
| 06:12.11 | Osagasu | Cairenn, shouldn't you be in bed? |
| 06:12.19 | End | lol |
| 06:12.19 | Osagasu | O.o |
| 06:12.20 | Osagasu | o.O |
| 06:12.22 | Osagasu | HMM? |
| 06:12.38 | Cair | Well, someone came back and started talking, so I decided to stay up for a while longer :p |
| 06:12.51 | Osagasu | yea, and in 5 minutes we'll be dead. |
| 06:12.56 | Cair | I was heading to bed because I was too bored to bother staying up any later |
| 06:13.04 | Cair | yeah, and I'll go to bed then |
| 06:13.18 | Cair | but now you've gone and done it anyway |
| 06:13.19 | Osagasu | and as soon as Radio Free Colorado finishes its Led Zeppelin songs I'm goin to bed myself |
| 06:13.22 | Iriel | aww, nobody else keeping you entertained? |
| 06:13.28 | kergoth | man, i hate waiting for a train -> http://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/WOW/wow_sshot67.jpg |
| 06:13.33 | kergoth | :) |
| 06:13.38 | Iriel | Hm, I'm discovering now is not a good time to have a keyboard with no markings on it |
| 06:13.39 | Cair | Nope, nobody playing with me |
| 06:14.04 | Cair | oh? do tell, Iriel ... |
| 06:14.08 | Osagasu | you're welcome to come play Guild Wars with me |
| 06:14.14 | Cair | kergoth: nice :) |
| 06:14.23 | Cair | I dun play GW |
| 06:14.24 | Osagasu | Kergoth, why don't you have a Hearthstone? |
| 06:14.34 | Iriel | well, normally when my mind is entirely present I can touch type and dont need them |
| 06:14.39 | Iriel | So I have one of those Das keyboard things |
| 06:14.44 | Iriel | No markings, just black keys |
| 06:14.52 | Cair | Right |
| 06:14.54 | Cair | and? |
| 06:15.00 | kergoth | Osagasu: i do, i'm just bored |
| 06:15.04 | Osagasu | one of those expensive ones with the different weighted keys? |
| 06:15.05 | Iriel | But now, I'm not QUITE so alert and it's proving tricky, I can't look and cheat |
| 06:15.09 | Iriel | Heh, I have Guild Wars. |
| 06:15.12 | kergoth | er, oh |
| 06:15.15 | kergoth | i dont need a hearthstone. |
| 06:15.16 | Iriel | Osagasu : Yes (Though it wasn't THAT expensive) |
| 06:15.21 | kergoth | shaman, 15 min cooldown astral recall |
| 06:15.23 | Iriel | I haven't played GW in months tho |
| 06:15.36 | Cair | hmmm, the coffee had a little extra kick to it, did it Iriel? |
| 06:17.04 | Iriel | No, but the baileys next to it might have had. |
| 06:17.13 | Iriel | I swear we have enough leftovers to feed a dozen people. |
| 06:17.22 | Cair | *chuckle* |
| 06:17.32 | Cair | ooooo, leftovers from thanksgiving ... *drool* |
| 06:17.37 | Cair | send me a care package! |
| 06:17.38 | Osagasu | well I normally don't play GW myself, but shis lovely does: http://www.deviantart.com/view/25511225/ |
| 06:17.39 | Depherios | lol @ pic |
| 06:17.44 | Osagasu | so that's all the reason I need to play |
| 06:18.38 | Iriel | I suspect by the time it made it through customs and across the continent it wouldn't be edible. |
| 06:18.54 | Cair | Unfortunately, that is likely true |
| 06:19.17 | Iriel | Turkey doesn't strike me as road-worthy |
| 06:19.34 | Cair | Oh, btw ... advance planning *gasp* ... we're looking at me hopefully coming down for E3 this year |
| 06:20.04 | Cair | I don't know if you usually attend that or not |
| 06:20.11 | Iriel | I've never been to E3, I dont even know how peons like me would attend. |
| 06:20.18 | Osagasu | we don't work for a gaming publication / fansite, we can't get in |
| 06:20.20 | Iriel | I've been tempted to try once or twice tho |
| 06:20.30 | Depherios | have to be "in the industry" somehow |
| 06:20.36 | Cair | We get in as "press", aye |
| 06:20.44 | Osagasu | so if Cair says we work for her, then we can get in |
| 06:21.02 | Cair | I've never taken up on the opportunity, but I may this year |
| 06:21.43 | Depherios | ahh... I might go next year, I can get in because I work for a game store, lol |
| 06:21.55 | Depherios | need cash money first though, so probably not |
| 06:22.18 | Cair | Anyway, just wanted to mention that I may be back down that way before next year's BlizzCon |
| 06:22.24 | Cair | so we might be able to plan something ... |
| 06:22.30 | Iriel | *nod* |
| 06:22.38 | Osagasu | Plan now I might be able to get enough money by then |
| 06:22.39 | Iriel | Any official word on whether there will BE a blizzcon next year? |
| 06:22.52 | Cair | That's still a few months away yet though, so not carved in stone that I'll be attending |
| 06:22.54 | Osagasu | I'll have to go around behind my parents backs, but meh |
| 06:23.15 | Osagasu | after the success of this one... probably |
| 06:23.16 | Cair | Not that I've heard yet, given how well it went over this year though, I'd be surprised if they *don't* |
| 06:23.38 | Iriel | Yeah, hopefully they'll double the number of staff and amount of merchandise at the store next time |
| 06:23.38 | Osagasu | I mean all they'd have to do was announce the second expansion at Blizzcon... |
| 06:23.50 | Cair | And I'd be betting that they'll do a better job of it next year |
| 06:24.13 | Cair | This was the first time they've ever held something like this on their own, from what I understood |
| 06:24.17 | Osagasu | show off SC:Ghost again, maybe an expansion if its acutally released |
| 06:24.28 | Osagasu | SC3... ;) |
| 06:24.30 | Osagasu | err |
| 06:24.30 | Osagasu | 2 |
| 06:24.37 | Osagasu | D3... *drool* |
| 06:25.13 | Cair | I do hope they organize it better next year |
| 06:25.24 | Cair | I'm really bummed that I never got a chance to buy any swag |
| 06:25.33 | Osagasu | hehehe, swag |
| 06:25.35 | Cair | But I just couldn't face those lines |
| 06:25.39 | Iriel | 90% of the stuff was gone by the time I got to the store, but I did at least get some posters |
| 06:25.56 | Osagasu | if you really wanna get swag, always go on the first day |
| 06:25.58 | Cair | I wanted a couple baseball caps at the very least =/ |
| 06:26.08 | Osagasu | stuff starts selling out on day 2. always. |
| 06:26.12 | Iriel | The lines on the first day were multi-hour |
| 06:26.20 | Cair | to put it mildly |
| 06:26.23 | Iriel | unless you skipped the keynote (IF the store was open then) |
| 06:26.33 | Osagasu | you could've still stood in line |
| 06:26.46 | Iriel | I did it sort-of-first-thing on the 2nd day, after playing with the Bloodelves |
| 06:26.50 | Cair | It was, and the line was multi-hour at *that* point |
| 06:27.01 | Cair | it just got that much worse after the keynote |
| 06:28.43 | Osagasu | heh |
| 06:29.08 | Osagasu | I remember the shop at the National Jamboree a few years back... |
| 06:29.19 | Iriel | The booth that had NO line before the keynote was the Penny Arcade one |
| 06:29.26 | Osagasu | no AC, 3-4 hours wait, half the stuff was gone |
| 06:29.34 | Iriel | I'm not sure if that was luck or reward for my being in line since 8 something 8-) |
| 06:29.44 | Osagasu | 90+ degrees in there easily |
| 06:29.46 | Iriel | (Outside, that is) |
| 06:30.05 | Cair | *won't talk about walking past the lines and right on in* |
| 06:30.14 | Iriel | Yes, please dont. |
| 06:30.16 | Osagasu | Damn press. |
| 06:30.23 | Cair | ;) |
| 06:30.24 | Iriel | I should have stolen your badge for day 2 8-) |
| 06:30.30 | Osagasu | We work for you next year, right? |
| 06:30.41 | Guillotine | g2g. ttyl |
| 06:30.44 | Osagasu | bai |
| 06:30.44 | Cair | LOL, I don't think you could have passed as me, Iriel |
| 06:30.46 | Cair | night Guillotine |
| 06:30.53 | Guillotine | bye |
| 06:30.56 | Osagasu | Slouken woulda let him in |
| 06:30.58 | Osagasu | ;) |
| 06:31.15 | Iriel | Bah.. |
| 06:31.24 | Cair | and Osagasu, we only get a couple badges, I can't let everyone in the way I might want to |
| 06:31.48 | Iriel | I'll have to set iriel.org up and become 'press' 8-) |
| 06:32.16 | Osagasu | Maybe next year you can mooch a few extra VIP tags from Slouken |
| 06:32.18 | Osagasu | :P |
| 06:32.25 | Cair | The biggest "perk" really was the not having to wait in the line up to get in on the first day |
| 06:32.37 | Cair | beyond that, there wasn't really anything "special" for Press |
| 06:33.21 | Osagasu | well if you don't play WoW anymore what'd you do with your murloc? |
| 06:33.22 | Cair | and because I got our passes Wednesday night, that cut down on wait time, too |
| 06:33.45 | Cair | I haven't used it yet |
| 06:33.54 | Cair | I do still play, just not often |
| 06:34.12 | Osagasu | that's too bad |
| 06:34.15 | Osagasu | err |
| 06:34.17 | Osagasu | yeah |
| 06:34.19 | Osagasu | >.> |
| 06:34.22 | Cair | :p |
| 06:35.31 | Cair | lol |
| 06:35.58 | Osagasu | "I'll fucking CAMP your ass for flaunting your damn pet like that!" |
| 06:35.59 | Iriel | I love my Murky |
| 06:36.07 | Iriel | But he's on Silver Hand rather than Dark Iron |
| 06:36.28 | Osagasu | Gabe would frown upon me killing one of his members |
| 06:37.03 | Depherios | lol |
| 06:37.11 | Osagasu | probably best that I not get it anyways |
| 06:37.21 | Osagasu | I'd end up getting drunk and deleting the character |
| 06:37.24 | Depherios | lol |
| 06:37.25 | Osagasu | just like I did my mage |
| 06:37.27 | Osagasu | that poor mage |
| 06:37.30 | Osagasu | ;______; |
| 06:37.33 | Depherios | lol |
| 06:37.46 | Depherios | did you get him back? |
| 06:38.08 | Iriel | How on earth do you inadvertently delete a character? |
| 06:38.12 | Osagasu | Nah, I deleted him. Blizzard didn't care if I claimed I was drunk or not, there was no proof |
| 06:38.14 | Iriel | Or did it seem like a great idea at the time? |
| 06:38.18 | Depherios | I had a friend accidentally delete a character, and asked if they could get them back, and they said yeah... |
| 06:38.34 | Depherios | My friend was making test characters for things, and did a mass delete, and did one too many lol |
| 06:38.42 | Cair | Okay guys, really do need to head off to bed now |
| 06:38.45 | Osagasu | nini |
| 06:38.46 | Cair | night night :) |
| 06:38.47 | Iriel | Sleep well |
| 06:38.48 | Depherios | G'night |
| 06:38.49 | Iriel | Dream of turkey |
| 06:39.03 | Osagasu | and TWICE BAKED POOOOOOOTAAAAAAAATOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS |
| 06:39.16 | kergoth | mm |
| 06:39.25 | Osagasu | Honestly, I'm not sure what I did that night... |
| 06:39.44 | Osagasu | I got up the next morning and there was a level 10 hunter where my mage was |
| 06:39.48 | Osagasu | ;_____________; |
| 06:39.57 | kergoth | haha |
| 06:40.06 | Depherios | lol |
| 06:40.46 | Osagasu | though I still had enough presence of mind to tell my guildies exactly what I was doing... and enough to get them to reinvite me... |
| 06:41.36 | Depherios | what did they say YOU said you were doing? |
| 06:42.22 | Osagasu | exactly what I did |
| 06:42.29 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?p=58602#post58602 - worth a read.. |
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| 07:50.05 | Osagasu | nini' |
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| 08:47.51 | Depherios | ello |
| 09:01.07 | Iriel | lo |
| 09:01.27 | Industrial | lo |
| 09:01.30 | Industrial | -_- |
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| 09:14.23 | Depherios | wb |
| 09:14.26 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 09:14.47 | AnduinLothar | now, to continue taking over the world.. |
| 09:18.45 | Iriel | heh |
| 09:18.47 | Iriel | a small goal |
| 09:19.22 | AnduinLothar | i don't do 'small' |
| 09:19.50 | AnduinLothar | smallest addon i got it like :/ ChatScroll ;) |
| 09:20.40 | AnduinLothar | ok... this computer needs to die.. |
| 09:23.03 | AnduinLothar | aw... InRange is a healing mod not a lib :/ |
| 09:29.12 | AnduinLothar | so, what' sup Iriel? |
| 09:30.23 | Iriel | I'm finishing Half Life |
| 09:30.29 | AnduinLothar | og |
| 09:30.35 | AnduinLothar | or new? |
| 09:30.49 | Iriel | Half Life: Source |
| 09:30.51 | Iriel | so both |
| 09:30.54 | Iriel | Old game, new engine |
| 09:30.55 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 09:41.42 | AnduinLothar | i thought of a new way to pass function return arguments to the 'after' hook functions: Sea locals |
| 09:42.28 | AnduinLothar | since the hook function is called from within SeaHooks it might be able to use stored aaddon local arguments |
| 09:43.49 | Iriel | problem with that is it's not re-entrant |
| 09:43.54 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 09:45.17 | Iriel | Say you hook X, and then while X is executing, it's called again |
| 09:45.28 | Iriel | then you'd overwrite your stored args with the 'new' ones |
| 09:45.46 | AnduinLothar | how so? |
| 09:46.46 | Depherios | lol |
| 09:46.54 | Depherios | I did the same thing with InRange |
| 09:47.07 | AnduinLothar | thought it was a lib? |
| 09:47.13 | Depherios | yeah XD |
| 09:47.19 | AnduinLothar | ya, it should be a lib |
| 09:47.23 | AnduinLothar | would be useful |
| 09:47.42 | AnduinLothar | i'd add it to my todo list but he store a perfectly good name |
| 09:47.55 | Depherios | lol |
| 09:48.00 | AnduinLothar | anyway, iriel, i don't see how that could happen |
| 09:48.29 | Iriel | Well, I guess it does depend how you do it |
| 09:48.46 | Iriel | but I can't see anything addon-local can give you that normal local variables can'r |
| 09:48.51 | Iriel | without incurring that problem |
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| 09:50.48 | AnduinLothar | mmm, can i just define locals and use them in the function? |
| 09:51.29 | AnduinLothar | if so then they're already there |
| 10:34.45 | AnduinLothar | ug... on this dumb computer reload = disc |
| 10:36.36 | Depherios | boot on floppies? XD |
| 10:36.41 | Depherios | off rather |
| 10:37.46 | Iriel | Well, Half Life finished, so now I can sleep! |
| 10:37.54 | AnduinLothar | sleep? what a waste |
| 10:38.28 | AnduinLothar | doesn't look like locals pass |
| 10:38.33 | Iriel | ? |
| 10:38.39 | Iriel | Locals dont pass between invocations, no |
| 10:38.44 | Iriel | well, not function locals |
| 10:38.57 | Iriel | It's all a matter of scope |
| 10:39.20 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 10:40.40 | Iriel | But the problem with file-locals is that there's only ONE set of them |
| 10:42.20 | Iriel | Anyway, goodnight all, see you on the other side |
| 10:43.33 | Industrial | irssi ftw |
| 10:43.36 | Industrial | ;\ |
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| 11:23.40 | AnduinLothar | arg typos ftl |
| 11:24.01 | Industrial | ? |
| 11:24.39 | AnduinLothar | stupid debug was perminently disabled cause i had a typo in the var definition |
| 11:24.54 | AnduinLothar | hookObj.name ~= name |
| 11:25.01 | AnduinLothar | it was predefined |
| 11:25.14 | Depherios | is there ANY good documentation on SetAllPoints()? and the like? |
| 11:25.24 | Depherios | because every time I think I have it down, I don't, lol |
| 11:25.40 | AnduinLothar | um, what is there to understand? |
| 11:25.58 | AnduinLothar | frame:SetAllPoints(otherframe) |
| 11:26.13 | Industrial | I think there should be a list of frames on wowwiki |
| 11:26.16 | Depherios | ahh goodness dur XD |
| 11:26.17 | AnduinLothar | there is |
| 11:26.23 | Industrial | where |
| 11:26.34 | AnduinLothar | oh, of frames, no |
| 11:26.34 | Industrial | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=653 |
| 11:26.36 | Industrial | ;) |
| 11:26.40 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:26.41 | Industrial | i started a thred |
| 11:26.44 | Industrial | thread* |
| 11:26.46 | AnduinLothar | why do u want a list of frame? |
| 11:26.49 | Depherios | know the one that took me forever to find? |
| 11:26.59 | Depherios | MinimapBorderTop |
| 11:27.08 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: because i can scale move resize alpha and position any frame relative whenever i want |
| 11:27.15 | AnduinLothar | so.. |
| 11:27.19 | Industrial | so? |
| 11:27.20 | Depherios | I'll add to that list, I have my own |
| 11:27.26 | Industrial | Depherios: nice, thanks |
| 11:27.29 | Depherios | So, it's a pain trying to figure them out |
| 11:27.34 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: so i need to know what i can change... |
| 11:27.35 | AnduinLothar | so why do u need a frame list? |
| 11:27.43 | Industrial | users need to know |
| 11:27.47 | Industrial | other people need to know |
| 11:27.53 | Depherios | we aren't as 1337 as you |
| 11:27.54 | Industrial | not everuyone is going to dig through the xml |
| 11:27.55 | AnduinLothar | there's a list in mobile frames of most default parent frames |
| 11:28.14 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:28.44 | Industrial | we have that already |
| 11:28.49 | Depherios | doesn't that not work on frames the mouse is disabled on? |
| 11:28.50 | Industrial | but most of the time, e.g. backdrops |
| 11:28.53 | Industrial | it doesnt catch |
| 11:29.05 | Depherios | hence... yes MinimapBorderTop = no mouse |
| 11:29.18 | AnduinLothar | right, which is why having the user find the frame is a bad idea and not at all user friendly |
| 11:29.30 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:29.44 | Industrial | well, i'm saving pthers ALOT of time |
| 11:29.46 | Industrial | others* |
| 11:30.03 | Industrial | and i encourage people to find frames and contribute |
| 11:30.05 | Industrial | :d |
| 11:30.09 | Depherios | well MinimapBorderTop is that silly frame around the MinimapZoneText and MinimapZoneTextButton |
| 11:30.16 | AnduinLothar | and there are half a million exceptions which cause x, y and z conflicts when u use all enclusive hacks to disable movement |
| 11:30.21 | Depherios | as I don't need that text, or the close button, i wanted to hide it XD |
| 11:30.45 | Depherios | ... my minimap is just a nice... clean... circle ^_^ |
| 11:30.50 | Industrial | mine too |
| 11:30.51 | Industrial | ;) |
| 11:30.57 | Industrial | no buttons |
| 11:30.58 | Industrial | \o/ |
| 11:31.05 | AnduinLothar | to each his own |
| 11:31.27 | AnduinLothar | slash commands can die for all i care |
| 11:31.30 | Industrial | for all, information |
| 11:31.32 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:31.50 | AnduinLothar | if i never used another slash command it would be too soon |
| 11:32.13 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: why are you talking about slash commands? |
| 11:32.25 | Industrial | im talking about frames |
| 11:32.33 | Depherios | no minimap buttons = slash commands |
| 11:32.45 | Industrial | what if joe-addon-make wants to make an addon |
| 11:32.53 | Industrial | knowing wich frames there are is a big help |
| 11:33.00 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: you even benefit from it |
| 11:33.08 | AnduinLothar | except i made my own list :P |
| 11:33.09 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: sure you know alot of frame,s but others dont |
| 11:33.18 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: RIGHT SO STFU |
| 11:33.21 | Industrial | oops caps |
| 11:33.21 | Industrial | :> |
| 11:33.22 | AnduinLothar | grep ftw |
| 11:33.32 | Industrial | information to all ftw |
| 11:33.37 | AnduinLothar | it's public |
| 11:33.41 | Industrial | where? |
| 11:33.44 | AnduinLothar | in MF |
| 11:33.47 | Industrial | MF? |
| 11:33.53 | Depherios | mobile frames |
| 11:33.58 | Industrial | ? :X |
| 11:33.58 | AnduinLothar | there's a giant list in the comments of the lua |
| 11:34.05 | Depherios | *goes and opens it* |
| 11:34.19 | Industrial | Depherios: feel free to post it on wowace |
| 11:34.39 | Industrial | or AnduinLothar |
| 11:34.40 | Industrial | :D |
| 11:34.42 | Depherios | eh, he wasn't kidding, it's just the major parent frames, the large panels |
| 11:34.52 | Industrial | thats good, we need those |
| 11:34.53 | Depherios | .... I think I have them all, but I might be missing a few |
| 11:35.00 | Industrial | s'ok |
| 11:35.01 | Industrial | :D |
| 11:35.18 | Depherios | I'm reorganizing them now, they're catagorized by how often I need to look them up, not by anything that makes sense, lol |
| 11:35.26 | AnduinLothar | doesn't have anything newer than 1.6 i dont think |
| 11:35.46 | AnduinLothar | tho it does in the mobile list |
| 11:40.48 | AnduinLothar | not bad... made 20g with auctioneer today |
| 11:40.52 | Industrial | ;o |
| 11:41.15 | AnduinLothar | at 4fps no less |
| 11:41.25 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:41.28 | Industrial | i only have low lvl chars, so theres "types" of addons i havent tried because i had no need for them |
| 11:41.32 | Industrial | whats auctioneer? |
| 11:41.39 | Depherios | ...wow |
| 11:41.47 | Depherios | I <3 my auctioneer |
| 11:41.47 | Industrial | i have 4 chars lvl 10-15 |
| 11:41.51 | Industrial | ;) |
| 11:41.57 | AnduinLothar | ... |
| 11:41.57 | Industrial | playing for 3 months now |
| 11:42.05 | Depherios | I thought *I* was bad at level 33 with 7 months |
| 11:42.05 | Industrial | only have time in the weekends |
| 11:42.20 | Industrial | and i spend 80% on my UI |
| 11:42.24 | Industrial | and learning stuff |
| 11:42.45 | Industrial | i even released 0.1 of my first addon - of wich i dodnt produce the actual code |
| 11:42.48 | AnduinLothar | ind, have u ever actually used MF? |
| 11:42.56 | Industrial | digigen.nl/~Industrial |
| 11:42.59 | Industrial | MF? |
| 11:43.14 | AnduinLothar | MobileFrames |
| 11:43.18 | Industrial | no, what is it |
| 11:43.22 | Depherios | I <3 Mobile Frames too, lol |
| 11:43.39 | Depherios | not as much as auctioneer though, sorry Anduin XD |
| 11:43.54 | Industrial | digigen.nl/~Industrial <-- :D |
| 11:44.02 | AnduinLothar | ... well i just wondered why you were so happy about being able to do all the frame manimulation when there are already addons out there that do that |
| 11:44.03 | Stylpe | Industrial: What an amazing layout you have! |
| 11:44.18 | Industrial | Stylpe: thanks! look at wich browsers i support! |
| 11:44.24 | Industrial | probably works on PDA too |
| 11:44.27 | Stylpe | Yeah, I noticed =) |
| 11:44.30 | Industrial | :D |
| 11:44.34 | Stylpe | I love it =) |
| 11:44.50 | Industrial | is it to the point? can you find your way? is it obtrusive? does it load fast? |
| 11:44.55 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:45.12 | Industrial | too bad the server sends html |
| 11:45.15 | Stylpe | It needs more content |
| 11:45.19 | Industrial | not application/xhtml+XML |
| 11:45.26 | Industrial | Stylpe: yeah :] |
| 11:45.42 | AnduinLothar | tho i spose if u dont liek configurations ull prolly hate mf |
| 11:45.59 | Depherios | MF have dependancies? |
| 11:46.13 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 11:46.19 | Industrial | AnduinLothar: that's okay. If i ever feel the need of re-doing it or porting it ill strip as much as i can ;) |
| 11:46.27 | Industrial | (thats a compliment) |
| 11:47.00 | Depherios | I run so many addons dependancies are NICE for me, lol |
| 11:47.12 | Industrial | i use 10MB of ram |
| 11:47.13 | Depherios | please please please, let more addons share functions... please please please XD |
| 11:47.13 | Industrial | ;) |
| 11:47.26 | Depherios | right now, I'm LOW at 66 |
| 11:47.29 | Industrial | lol |
| 11:47.40 | Industrial | i have only 512, if i start wow i have 20 left |
| 11:47.41 | AnduinLothar | i got 48 atm |
| 11:47.47 | Industrial | cant even run FF |
| 11:47.57 | AnduinLothar | well there u go, buy some ram |
| 11:48.08 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:48.12 | Industrial | laptop.. very expensive.. internship.. 40 hours a week.. no money.. |
| 11:48.17 | Industrial | =[ |
| 11:48.34 | AnduinLothar | steal some.. it's like stealing music ;) |
| 11:48.39 | Industrial | heh |
| 11:48.46 | Industrial | let me go make my site a little prettier |
| 11:49.35 | Stylpe | I'm running 83 addons, and my startup mem usage is 37-38 MB |
| 11:50.12 | Depherios | I have no idea how many I'm running, you guys count? or is there an easier way? XD |
| 11:50.20 | AnduinLothar | ya, i got 108 running i think |
| 11:50.32 | Depherios | I have a ton of disabled addons in my Addons folder so I can't count that *sigh* |
| 11:50.34 | AnduinLothar | nah, select-all : get-info |
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| 11:50.53 | AnduinLothar | or find/replace in the addon list an dcount lines |
| 11:50.58 | Stylpe | I looked in my addons folder. It has 96 folders. Subtract the 10 bliz folders, and the 3 I have deactivated, and I end up with 83 |
| 11:51.48 | Depherios | well I have 58 that AREN'T running |
| 11:52.22 | Depherios | and 160 objects in the folder so 102 |
| 11:52.39 | Industrial | i have ones that i dont have running preceded by _, ones that arent running that dont work with __, etc |
| 11:53.08 | Depherios | I'm too lazy, and I'm always using Khaos to disable/enable addons in the middle of playing, lol |
| 11:55.14 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 11:55.30 | AnduinLothar | ya, ur like... sct ur eating my fps.. goodbye |
| 11:56.24 | Industrial | my fps eaters are sct and nymbias perl unit frames |
| 11:56.31 | Industrial | until i make a replacement i stick to them |
| 11:56.36 | Industrial | because they are really good |
| 11:57.40 | Depherios | I have most of the MOVEMENT off in SCT so it doesn't bog me down too much... at least I think that's why |
| 11:58.33 | Depherios | my biggest FPS/Lag generator is CSG but that's easily disabled |
| 12:00.03 | Depherios | and my own crap, lol |
| 12:00.29 | Depherios | I think spellalert is bogging me down, but I like it so much D: |
| 12:00.56 | AnduinLothar | spell alert's the one that shows when other people cast spells at u? |
| 12:01.42 | Depherios | well... I don't know if it's a conflict or what, but SOMETHING is making things STOP when my target feigns death |
| 12:02.12 | AnduinLothar | odd |
| 12:02.27 | AnduinLothar | i know arch detects that, but it's justa passive thing |
| 12:03.21 | Depherios | yeah |
| 12:03.33 | Depherios | I don't have arch running anyway |
| 12:04.15 | Depherios | DUF takes care of all that |
| 12:04.25 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 12:04.31 | AnduinLothar | most of it anyway |
| 12:04.39 | Depherios | yeah |
| 12:05.11 | Depherios | I'd love a middleground... but yeah |
| 12:05.52 | Depherios | my brain can't handle the way different bars are different lengths with the default frames, lol my party members or my pet have half their health and I'm going OMG THEY'RE DYING because their health bar is so much smaller than mine, lol |
| 12:07.02 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 12:07.12 | Depherios | actually, I think it DOES do everything arch does now that you can configure mouseovers and have portraits be calss for players |
| 12:07.28 | Depherios | everything except let you load WoW fast |
| 12:07.36 | AnduinLothar | can u have portrait and class displayed sepperate? |
| 12:07.39 | Depherios | yeah |
| 12:07.55 | Depherios | seperate icons for class and race |
| 12:07.59 | AnduinLothar | does it detect feign death, dea, offline and ghost? |
| 12:08.04 | AnduinLothar | dea* |
| 12:08.06 | AnduinLothar | dead* |
| 12:08.07 | Depherios | death offline and ghost |
| 12:08.11 | Depherios | dunno about feign |
| 12:08.28 | AnduinLothar | u can change the font size and color i assume |
| 12:08.36 | Depherios | yeah |
| 12:09.02 | AnduinLothar | and integrates with mobhealth and mobinfo? |
| 12:09.18 | Depherios | recolor things by class, reaction, health or mana amount, or difficulty, mobhealth and mobinfo |
| 12:09.33 | AnduinLothar | sounds about it |
| 12:09.35 | Depherios | I don't run mobinfo though, but the guy who makes DUF does, so I'm assuming it works fine |
| 12:10.04 | AnduinLothar | buffs and debuffs are movable and the count and orientation is modifiable? |
| 12:10.30 | Depherios | yup, can even adjust spacing orientation and weather they show in one or two rows |
| 12:10.37 | AnduinLothar | kool kool |
| 12:10.43 | AnduinLothar | sounds liek they got everything |
| 12:10.59 | Depherios | yup, too bad every new thing = more load time, lol |
| 12:11.05 | AnduinLothar | easy to configure? |
| 12:11.10 | Depherios | really nice GUI |
| 12:11.17 | Depherios | he did something I wish EVERY Mod did |
| 12:11.23 | Depherios | added NUDGE buttons |
| 12:11.28 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 12:11.32 | Depherios | so you can move things around nudging them one pixel, lol |
| 12:11.42 | AnduinLothar | can jsut drag it? |
| 12:11.46 | Depherios | yup |
| 12:11.54 | AnduinLothar | nifty |
| 12:11.59 | Depherios | drag elements and the frames they attach to |
| 12:12.01 | Depherios | yeah it's really nice |
| 12:12.07 | Depherios | one of these days, when I get a layout I'll like |
| 12:12.12 | Depherios | I'll drop DUF, and just make it myself |
| 12:12.28 | Depherios | but I keep wanting to move this over there, and try putting this here... and... yeah, just easier to run DUF, lol |
| 12:12.33 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 12:12.46 | AnduinLothar | yay gui |
| 12:12.59 | AnduinLothar | now why the hell doesn't my debug work.. |
| 12:13.11 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 12:13.19 | AnduinLothar | cut and paste ftl |
| 12:13.32 | Depherios | the GUI isn't what's so important as being able to go "oh shit! I forgot I was in BG queue!" *hides them all real fast, and plays the battleground using tipbuddy tooltips to get everybodies health* |
| 12:13.54 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 12:14.12 | Depherios | err... NOT have to do that... and can instead go *presses a few things and has the default frames showing, nice and unmodified for his use* |
| 12:14.36 | Depherios | what time is it? -- crap |
| 12:14.43 | AnduinLothar | if it's a complicated interface i guess that's useful |
| 12:14.45 | Depherios | My brain was going, I should have known |
| 12:15.06 | Depherios | I keep having the difficulty of trying to decide between showing a lot of information, and having things minimalistic |
| 12:15.08 | AnduinLothar | most peeps just use the Arch presets now if they use arch |
| 12:15.39 | Depherios | I'd probably use Arch and just get used to it, if not for 1, the unit portraits bug me XD, and 2, no target of target |
| 12:15.39 | AnduinLothar | it's all about ballence |
| 12:16.01 | AnduinLothar | u could easily add ToT using a diff addon |
| 12:16.16 | AnduinLothar | what about the portraits bug u? |
| 12:16.24 | Depherios | just don't need them, lol |
| 12:16.30 | Depherios | actually I have them show on button press |
| 12:16.38 | Depherios | just in case I ever want to see them.... but I never do |
| 12:17.04 | AnduinLothar | class portrait? |
| 12:17.07 | Depherios | the only time I do is when somebody says something like "look at my portrait!" |
| 12:17.22 | Depherios | with DUF right now, I'm doing class by color, like CTRA |
| 12:17.31 | AnduinLothar | that works |
| 12:17.38 | AnduinLothar | once u get used to it |
| 12:17.48 | Depherios | I had an ingenoius plan, until I found out DUF had a little bug, lol |
| 12:18.14 | Depherios | I was just going to make EVERY class have it's own mana bar color -- it has the built in capabilities to do just about anything with any of the context colors |
| 12:18.50 | Depherios | but the mana bar has double checks for if it's a different color of energy, so if you select a new type of energy, it doesn't apply the class color the first time, whoop |
| 12:18.51 | AnduinLothar | cept then when rogues/war have no rage u cant tell |
| 12:19.28 | AnduinLothar | mmm, think i endless looped wow :/ |
| 12:19.32 | Depherios | yeah, but only warriors sit at 0, and like CTRA the background to the bars is a darker form of the mana bar color |
| 12:19.49 | Depherios | (not darker, rather a transparency of it) |
| 12:19.50 | AnduinLothar | rght |
| 12:20.13 | Depherios | and then I did the health bar by reaction, lol |
| 12:21.16 | Depherios | that works fine, which is great because I can tell at a glance by looking at the Target of Target bar for any unit, what type of unit they have selected (party members, pets and the like, just have a 3 pixel high bar under their healthbar for the ToT bar, no name shown) |
| 12:21.31 | AnduinLothar | that works |
| 12:21.43 | Depherios | yeah, lets me know who's gonna win, them or the enemy |
| 12:21.45 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:21.50 | AnduinLothar | makign a ToT for cosmos is on the todo list |
| 12:22.16 | Depherios | Before I ran DUF, I was running minigroup, and made myself a ToT, not for ME, but for my PET, lol |
| 12:24.10 | AnduinLothar | been thinking of actually having just an overlay bar of a different tint/opacity for the targettarget hp/mana on top of the normal unit frame |
| 12:24.37 | AnduinLothar | maybe a mini portrait button to target or cast on them |
| 12:25.56 | AnduinLothar | might be hard to see with the gradient as hp goes down tho |
| 12:27.37 | Depherios | overlay it maybe? |
| 12:27.56 | Depherios | just make it a few pixels high (3 or 4) and drop it on top of the health bar at the bottom? |
| 12:28.32 | Depherios | or half height, if it's transparent... |
| 12:29.24 | AnduinLothar | comething |
| 12:31.17 | Depherios | all I know, is that once I went ToT I didn't want to go back |
| 12:31.39 | Depherios | being able to see at a glance if people in my party are winning or losing their fight is so nice XD |
| 12:35.10 | AnduinLothar | might be nice to have assist buttons ont he party member frames |
| 12:38.13 | Depherios | eh, I just have my button, but then again... I <3 castoptions lol |
| 12:38.28 | Depherios | smart assist has to be one of the greatest inventions ever |
| 12:40.20 | AnduinLothar | yup, that definitely works |
| 12:51.26 | AnduinLothar | ok, think i'm gonna stick with using the Sea.util.passVars table |
| 12:51.46 | AnduinLothar | which shouldn't be a problem unless perhaps a hook function is hooked |
| 12:52.23 | AnduinLothar | er |
| 12:52.39 | AnduinLothar | would break if a hooked function called a hooked function too.. that's no good |
| 12:52.48 | AnduinLothar | ah, but i spose i can pass it |
| 12:53.06 | AnduinLothar | duplicate refrence wont make new table, but it'll be issolated |
| 12:53.07 | Depherios | that went so far over my head, I didn't even see it pass |
| 12:53.13 | Depherios | lol |
| 12:53.38 | AnduinLothar | cept that breaks existing hooks :/ that's no good either |
| 12:54.35 | AnduinLothar | anyway... sleep time |
| 12:54.39 | AnduinLothar | cyaz |
| 12:54.58 | Depherios | G'night |
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| 15:45.29 | Tain | Holy crap, they blocked the official WoW site at my work. |
| 15:47.18 | Tain | And curse-gaming |
| 15:47.27 | Tain | WoWI is still available though! :D |
| 15:52.51 | Industrial | lol! |
| 15:52.51 | Industrial | :D |
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| 16:03.07 | kremonte | are there any raw-item calculators? |
| 16:03.18 | kremonte | for crafting >< |
| 16:07.26 | Parak | try automake |
| 16:07.44 | Parak | http://www.curse-gaming.com/modscreens.php?id=4566 |
| 16:09.38 | kremonte | ooh |
| 16:16.11 | Rallion | hmm |
| 16:16.20 | Rallion | I need an N64 power supply and at least one controller |
| 16:17.02 | Parak | reminds me of that american express business card commercial. "I need 240 gallons of plaster!" |
| 16:17.56 | Rallion | ...yeah |
| 16:17.58 | Rallion | lol |
| 16:18.07 | Rallion | girlfriend wants to play Donkey Kong 64 |
| 16:22.28 | kremonte | wahahhaha rofl, 2 BOE world blues off one mob |
| 16:22.51 | Rallion | lol wow |
| 16:23.11 | kremonte | hanzo sword and warmonger... like 70g |
| 16:29.33 | Tain | Hanzo Sword should be better than it is. |
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| 17:42.16 | Cide | anyone good at regular expressions around? |
| 17:47.52 | zeeg | I am |
| 17:47.59 | zeeg | you referring to LUA? |
| 17:48.22 | kremonte | lua isn't regexp! |
| 17:48.25 | kremonte | :-O |
| 17:48.35 | zeeg | it has regexp i thought |
| 17:48.52 | zeeg | i only know preg :| |
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| 17:53.21 | End | lua 's pattern matching is a little on the poor side imo :-/ |
| 17:53.36 | kremonte | lua doesnt have posix regexp |
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| 18:00.18 | Cide | morning Cair! |
| 18:00.20 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Cair] by ChanServ |
| 18:00.30 | Cair | hey :) |
| 18:00.41 | Cide | if it is morning I don't know :) |
| 18:01.19 | Cair | 1pm local |
| 18:04.23 | Tain | Morning Cair |
| 18:04.28 | Cair | hey |
| 18:05.12 | Tain | Or afternoon technically. |
| 18:05.32 | Tain | Cair, official formums are blocked from work as of today. :( |
| 18:05.40 | Cair | ahhhh |
| 18:05.51 | Cair | errr, awwww, even |
| 18:06.38 | Tain | Yeah. :( |
| 18:06.59 | Tain | Curse-gaming too. Someone must be in the know. |
| 18:07.07 | Tain | But WoWI is open still! |
| 18:07.20 | Cair | heh, then who cares, you've still go the best site ;) |
| 18:07.57 | ToastTheif | Tain |
| 18:08.02 | ToastTheif | u can always use a proxy |
| 18:08.04 | zeeg | O.o |
| 18:08.32 | ToastTheif | http://www.mezzy.com/ used to be good |
| 18:08.40 | ToastTheif | it's been down for a few weeks tho... |
| 18:08.44 | ToastTheif | not sure what happened |
| 18:09.01 | ToastTheif | something about upgrades |
| 18:13.34 | ToastTheif | Idustrial |
| 18:13.40 | ToastTheif | where are yoooooooooooou |
| 18:14.10 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/black-qiraji-resonating-crystal-id21176/ |
| 18:16.10 | ToastTheif | What's the difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu |
| 18:16.12 | Tain | A lot of the prozies are blocked too. |
| 18:16.25 | ToastTheif | darn |
| 18:16.50 | Tain | Kubunto is a version of Ubunto with the KDE desktop. |
| 18:17.16 | ToastTheif | KDE |
| 18:17.16 | Tain | I'm not really sure what the difference is since you can use KDE on Ubuntu. |
| 18:17.26 | ToastTheif | KDE and GNOME |
| 18:17.32 | ToastTheif | what do those thingies do? |
| 18:20.12 | zeeg | yuck |
| 18:20.25 | zeeg | ToastTheif, make your life harder than it should be |
| 18:20.41 | ToastTheif | I thought they were good? |
| 18:20.52 | Tain | They are desktop environments, basically. Provide a full set of menus, preinstalled software, etc. |
| 18:21.22 | ToastTheif | I'll have to google it |
| 18:21.37 | Tain | They are good for having everything all installed for you that you might use on a normal desktop, but they have a lot of extra stuff as well. |
| 18:22.07 | ToastTheif | anyway, I've decided Im porbally going to go with Fedora or Ubunto |
| 18:22.12 | ToastTheif | Ubuntu* |
| 18:22.29 | Tain | I'd strongly suggest using either KDE or Gnome to start out because it will give you a way to start getting used to Linux and XWindows, while still giving you things on a desktop the way you'd be used to. |
| 18:23.11 | zeeg | windows is a better desktop environment :) |
| 18:23.17 | Tain | As for which to use, KDE or Gnome, it doesn't matter much. Both provide about the same functionality. Gnome is (in my opinion) more polished graphically, more big colorful icons, etc. |
| 18:23.42 | Tain | But that's not really all that Gnome is about, it's just one of the things I think when I see it. |
| 18:26.42 | kremonte | i want gnome! |
| 18:26.47 | kremonte | gnome gnome gnome |
| 18:27.05 | kremonte | speaking of gnome. what's a good distro to start out using if you're stupid? |
| 18:27.11 | Industrial | ubuntu |
| 18:27.39 | Industrial | i use archlinux myself |
| 18:28.04 | ToastTheif | I've used Gnome b4 |
| 18:28.11 | ToastTheif | on Fedora |
| 18:28.21 | ToastTheif | never tried KDE though |
| 18:28.22 | Industrial | hey toasty |
| 18:28.32 | Industrial | i kinda made the website a bit more spiffy :E |
| 18:28.33 | ToastTheif | hiya |
| 18:28.38 | ToastTheif | link? |
| 18:28.38 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/index.html |
| 18:28.45 | Industrial | still poking around with the menu |
| 18:28.51 | Tain | Ubuntu seems to be the current favorite among people. It seems to be every oh.. 18 months or so a new favorite comes around. |
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| 18:29.14 | Industrial | yep |
| 18:29.20 | Industrial | i used to use slackware for a few years |
| 18:29.28 | Industrial | but arch is just so smooth |
| 18:29.29 | Industrial | :D |
| 18:29.32 | ToastTheif | I think I'll go with either Ubuntu Gnome or Fedora Gnome |
| 18:29.40 | ToastTheif | never heard or arch |
| 18:29.42 | Industrial | i'd pick ubuntu |
| 18:29.46 | Tain | Slackware was the first distro I ever used. Back when it was possibly the only full distro. |
| 18:29.54 | Industrial | or Kubuntu if you want kde |
| 18:30.09 | Industrial | arch comes with nothing, so you make it what you want |
| 18:30.13 | MoonWolf | I killed stiches, Solo. |
| 18:30.15 | MoonWolf | at 35 |
| 18:30.25 | ToastTheif | so Industrial, what do you need help with on IdChat? |
| 18:30.25 | Industrial | it does come with pacman, kick ass packaging system |
| 18:30.36 | Industrial | ToastTheif: humm.. i think the scrolling |
| 18:31.20 | ToastTheif | alright, do you have Gobby installed? |
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| 18:31.43 | Industrial | Gobby? |
| 18:31.45 | Industrial | :X |
| 18:31.51 | ToastTheif | :O |
| 18:32.04 | Osagasu | CHAAAAAAAAAAARGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:32.07 | ToastTheif | the pwnage program |
| 18:32.09 | ToastTheif | you know? |
| 18:32.19 | Industrial | nope |
| 18:32.29 | ToastTheif | http://gobby.0x539.de/ |
| 18:32.35 | ToastTheif | that one |
| 18:32.49 | Industrial | ToastTheif: oh cool |
| 18:32.50 | ToastTheif | it makes it easy for both of us to view and edit the codes |
| 18:32.53 | Industrial | roger |
| 18:32.55 | Industrial | downloading |
| 18:32.58 | ToastTheif | :) |
| 18:35.08 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/newest/ |
| 18:35.08 | zeeg | :D |
| 18:35.10 | zeeg | 1.9 galore |
| 18:35.24 | zeeg | that flying thing is wicked |
| 18:35.58 | Industrial | This application has failed to start because libart_lgpl_2-2.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem |
| 18:36.22 | ToastTheif | Industrial didn't read the installation instructions |
| 18:36.35 | Industrial | ToastTheif: i did |
| 18:36.37 | Industrial | i ave gtk |
| 18:36.40 | Industrial | and that app |
| 18:36.43 | ToastTheif | hmm |
| 18:36.43 | Industrial | and then gobby |
| 18:36.44 | Industrial | ;) |
| 18:36.48 | Industrial | (im fast ;O) |
| 18:36.51 | ToastTheif | maybe it's not the newest one? |
| 18:37.02 | Industrial | dunno let me download the gtk from there and re-do the process |
| 18:37.07 | ToastTheif | mmk |
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| 18:38.19 | Industrial | i need gtk 2.6 or 2.8 .. ? |
| 18:40.56 | Industrial | :) |
| 18:41.13 | Industrial | this irc client runs on gtk, so i need to close it |
| 18:41.15 | Industrial | brb |
| 18:43.25 | ToastTheif | hey Ker |
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| 18:43.38 | ToastTheif | what do you use, Gnome or KDE, or...? |
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| 18:44.10 | Tain | ker uses... mmmm fvwm ? |
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| 18:47.07 | Industrial | right, gobby |
| 18:47.08 | Industrial | now? |
| 18:47.25 | Tain | For some reason I never know Hunters had Track Hidden. |
| 18:47.35 | ToastTheif | oh |
| 18:47.41 | ToastTheif | you have it installed? |
| 18:47.55 | Osagasu | you aren't alone, Tain |
| 18:48.04 | ToastTheif | lol |
| 18:48.04 | Osagasu | now if only humans could be hunters... >:) |
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| 18:48.14 | ToastTheif | it's worthless, that's why ;) |
| 18:48.24 | Osagasu | nah, its saved my ass before |
| 18:50.20 | Tain | I never knew Humans couldn't be Hunters either. heh |
| 18:50.46 | Tain | One of the two classes I've never played. Hunters and Warlock. |
| 18:51.01 | Cair | they can't :( |
| 18:51.07 | Tain | That's sad. |
| 18:51.22 | Tain | I always thought humans could be anything. |
| 18:52.33 | Tain | Oh good, Hunters get Track Beasts at level 1. I can test then, I was afraid I'd have to level one up. |
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| 18:56.04 | Tain | Well, TrackAlert is about to get a lot bigger by adding filtering by tracking type (ore/herb/treasure/etc.) |
| 18:56.43 | Osagasu | well no |
| 18:56.47 | Osagasu | they get it at level 2 |
| 18:56.48 | Osagasu | :P |
| 18:57.24 | kremonte | track hidden |
| 18:57.25 | kremonte | ? |
| 18:57.33 | Osagasu | no, track humanoids |
| 18:57.34 | Osagasu | :P |
| 18:57.39 | kremonte | wahhh |
| 18:57.54 | kremonte | Increases stealth detection and shows hidden units within detection range on the minimap. Only one form of tracking can be active at a time. |
| 19:00.45 | Industrial | Where cna i find anduin's s=chat scroll? |
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| 19:02.32 | Osagasu | Cosmos, probably |
| 19:02.44 | Industrial | =( |
| 19:03.02 | Osagasu | just get the ace chat scroll. ;) |
| 19:03.19 | zeeg | you all should play DDR |
| 19:03.22 | zeeg | its the most fun game ever |
| 19:03.37 | elema | trillian, are you the author of PAdA? |
| 19:03.59 | kremonte | zeeg - i do ;o |
| 19:04.06 | zeeg | :D |
| 19:04.10 | zeeg | i finally made it to D bracket |
| 19:04.17 | kremonte | my metal mat broke the other day |
| 19:04.18 | zeeg | probably got like 10-15 levels beat, hard stuff :| |
| 19:04.18 | kremonte | ;( |
| 19:04.20 | zeeg | :( |
| 19:04.22 | zeeg | i got a chepay mat yet |
| 19:04.23 | zeeg | lol |
| 19:04.25 | zeeg | *cheapy |
| 19:04.30 | kremonte | and by chance, my soldering iron did the same day |
| 19:04.33 | kremonte | so i can't even fix it |
| 19:04.36 | zeeg | lol |
| 19:04.38 | zeeg | that sucks |
| 19:05.20 | ToastTheif | aol should stop sending me free frisbees |
| 19:05.28 | kremonte | those own |
| 19:05.29 | ToastTheif | they aren't even very durable |
| 19:05.36 | kremonte | put it on a dremel |
| 19:05.38 | zeeg | lol |
| 19:05.40 | kremonte | ;) |
| 19:05.45 | ToastTheif | dremel? |
| 19:05.49 | kremonte | rotor tool |
| 19:05.55 | ToastTheif | riiight |
| 19:06.17 | elema | is it possible, that a texture has a child texture? |
| 19:06.41 | ToastTheif | I'd say yes |
| 19:06.47 | ToastTheif | but I don't know |
| 19:06.52 | ToastTheif | anything really |
| 19:11.44 | elema | so, is nobody in here does it know really? |
| 19:21.06 | Mondinga | textures dont have children of any sort |
| 19:27.03 | Cair | it's so weird the random comments that suddenly appear out of thin air, in here ... |
| 19:27.07 | Cair | *chuckle* |
| 19:27.29 | elema | so I have no other choice than doing it with texture:IsVisible() then hide texturey, when I want to show certain textures with other textures? |
| 19:28.53 | End | you could probably hook the :Show()/:Hide() I guess? |
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| 19:29.57 | elema | unfortunately that's a thing I don't really use ( or better said I haven't tried this out before) |
| 19:41.30 | Mondinga | you could make a frame holding each texture set and show/hide it, if they divide up that way |
| 19:41.46 | Mondinga | if they're showing in more complex combinations than that, just have to show/hide everything manually |
| 19:55.39 | elema | they should be in two sets, one for horde, and one for alliance |
| 19:56.19 | elema | if I'va understand you right, you mean I bind 2 child frames to one parent frame and the cild frames hold the textures, am I right? |
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| 19:59.44 | Mondinga | yes |
| 19:59.55 | Mondinga | if yer just wanting to set specific textures for horde chars or alliance chars |
| 20:00.13 | Mondinga | prolly better to just rely on using SetTexture on the textures |
| 20:00.45 | Mondinga | one path variable for the alliance images, one path variable for the horde images, then just run a pass on each texture |
| 20:13.20 | elema | thoe prob is the textures have different positions for the different factions |
| 20:13.41 | elema | eh another thing |
| 20:13.42 | Tain | Can I do: |
| 20:13.58 | Tain | foreach x in ({"a","b","c"}) do |
| 20:14.20 | Tain | To perform a function on "a" "b" and "c" respectively? |
| 20:14.32 | elema | I have different frames but they should be all at the same place but would like it to give the ability to move the whole stack |
| 20:14.43 | ToastTheif | where is the timestamps option in Xchat? |
| 20:15.19 | elema | so can I make a parent frame which does move tem all but let them all be shownn in different cases |
| 20:16.18 | Mondinga | yeah |
| 20:16.30 | Mondinga | if you wanna move em all, use a frame |
| 20:16.56 | Mondinga | tain, it would be simply for x in {"a", "b", "c"} do |
| 20:17.22 | Mondinga | parentheses might be fine, but its for rather than foreach |
| 20:17.55 | Mondinga | and actually you'll want i,x where x is a, b, and c as it loops |
| 20:21.33 | Tain | Ok, just wanted to make sure I could use foreach on a table of values without explicitly assigning a table to a variable first. |
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| 20:24.56 | Cair | hey Iriel :) |
| 20:25.09 | Iriel | Morning |
| 20:25.29 | Cair | So, did I tempt you well enough last night? |
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| 20:38.23 | Guillotine | rawr |
| 20:38.27 | Cair | *purr* |
| 20:47.32 | zeeg | For anyone interested, test out the final (beta still) of our patcher - http://www.wowguru.com/ui-new/PatcherSetup_wgpfinal.zip |
| 20:47.37 | zeeg | should be ready for release before the end of next week |
| 20:47.46 | Iriel | Does it still use the same XML files as before? |
| 20:47.50 | zeeg | There's still going to be some changes to strings, dialogs and whatnot yet, but its near done |
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| 20:52.06 | Cair | zeeg ... nice |
| 20:52.14 | ToastTheif | ? |
| 20:52.22 | Cair | very very nice |
| 20:53.34 | Cair | http://www.wowguru.com/ui-new/PatcherSetup_wgpfinal.zip |
| 20:53.59 | Cair | so you're going to let us host the actual proggy as well, yes? very cool of you |
| 20:54.39 | ToastTheif | what's it do? |
| 20:54.44 | Cair | damnit, you're going to make me have to revise my opinion of you, aren't you? |
| 20:54.49 | Cair | auto-update your addons |
| 20:54.58 | Cair | any that you have from either site |
| 20:55.30 | Iriel | Hm, does this mean it doesn't work the same way it used to? |
| 21:03.12 | zeeg | the actual proggy? |
| 21:03.13 | zeeg | like |
| 21:03.15 | zeeg | the patcher itself? |
| 21:03.31 | zeeg | ya Cair, as long as I can get an XML list of files from a site with the file name + version i can make it auto update on that site |
| 21:03.46 | Cair | zeeg: yes |
| 21:04.11 | zeeg | you can probably mirror it, ya |
| 21:04.13 | Cair | the fact that you have at the top that we are one of the hosts is why I presume you are planning on letting us host it |
| 21:04.25 | zeeg | well hosts as in UI mods is what the idea of that was |
| 21:04.31 | Cair | ah |
| 21:04.35 | zeeg | anyone who lists the WGP links/etc I planned to include in hosts (major sites that is) |
| 21:04.43 | Cair | *nod* |
| 21:04.48 | zeeg | the news feed will be pulled from guru though, hosts will have access to post news which is shown patcher-only of course |
| 21:06.24 | Iriel | How does it handle multiple addons with the same name? |
| 21:06.47 | Cair | good question, given that many mods are hosted at multiple sites |
| 21:06.50 | zeeg | it says "Do you wish to overwrite?" |
| 21:06.56 | zeeg | Cair, basically the XML will work like so |
| 21:07.07 | Iriel | I'm thinking of the less than brilliant decision by some to release updates of my StatRings without changing the name |
| 21:07.23 | zeeg | I'll spider your XML feed, if you have newer versions of files I have, or files I dont have, they'll get added to our XML feed (as I cant revise the application any longer to include like we did before) |
| 21:07.29 | Iriel | I think those derivatives get more popularity than my original |
| 21:07.41 | zeeg | basically as soon as its released, im going to find another developer to make some revisions :P |
| 21:08.42 | Cair | well, talk to dolby as he's the one that needs to agree to you spidering the site and put in the code |
| 21:09.18 | zeeg | not the site |
| 21:09.21 | Cair | you can talk to him direct or post a thread in the multi-site forum, whatever works |
| 21:09.22 | zeeg | just basically pulling your XML feed |
| 21:09.28 | zeeg | ya i will when it gets around to it |
| 21:09.33 | Cair | *nod* |
| 21:09.44 | zeeg | pulling and merging your xml with ours is more or less the idea to make it function w/ other sites on the current specs |
| 21:11.51 | kremonte | bah. is changing models (NOT by editing the MPQ) as in putting creature/cow/cow.m2 into your WoW dir against the TOS? |
| 21:12.02 | kremonte | theres so many posts saying different things l( |
| 21:12.18 | Iriel | I have never seen an official post endorsing it |
| 21:12.36 | Iriel | Which would lead me to suspect it's against the TOS but they wont bother you for doing it unless you do something stupid. |
| 21:12.42 | kremonte | well ive never seen an official post saying against it >< |
| 21:12.46 | zeeg | you cant put them in |
| 21:12.49 | zeeg | oh |
| 21:12.51 | zeeg | in your wow dir |
| 21:12.53 | kremonte | there's a lot of posts which i know are correct saying you cant edit the MPQs |
| 21:12.59 | zeeg | you can |
| 21:13.02 | zeeg | they just have checks |
| 21:13.03 | Cair | the way I see it, it *could* be used to gain an advantage, thus it's technically against the TOS |
| 21:13.09 | kremonte | well, in my case: |
| 21:13.20 | kremonte | i changed my dreadsteed to tauren druid cat form |
| 21:13.20 | Cair | the chances (currently) that Blizz will do anything about it? slim |
| 21:13.21 | zeeg | ya, make all dwarves 7' so you can actually target them :) |
| 21:13.23 | kremonte | and my gryphon to a wyvern |
| 21:14.06 | Iriel | I bet within a week of someone posting any screenshot showing something like bright red taurens for easy targetting, it'll be explicitly against the TOS, and scanned for by the client (That last part may take longer) |
| 21:14.27 | Cair | *nod* |
| 21:14.35 | kremonte | well, atm i dont know of anything to modify m2's.. are there plugins for 3ds or something? |
| 21:14.40 | kremonte | as far as skins, well ya... but |
| 21:14.46 | kremonte | you'd have to reskin every pc of armor too then |
| 21:15.01 | Iriel | I'm pretty sure that the only official response anyone would ever get is going to be 'It's against the ToS' |
| 21:15.35 | Cair | the folks that do things like change all snakes to be bunny rabbits or something ... Blizz won't be upset about those .... the folks that use it to make it so every time a rogue goes stealth, they now show up as flaming red dragons ... Blizz will hate |
| 21:15.57 | kremonte | well they can't really do that, since it's an opacity change, not a model change :p |
| 21:16.07 | Cair | you still get my point |
| 21:16.07 | kremonte | but that would be really cool ^__________^ |
| 21:16.14 | kremonte | yeah i know haha |
| 21:16.49 | kremonte | was something a lot of people did (including me cough cough) to claim mobs in FFXI, would make all models and enemies really really low poly so they show up faster... like a gigantic unskinned 2poly block |
| 21:17.13 | Cair | anything that gives you an "advantage" that you shouldn't otherwise have ...Blizz isn't gonna ever give permission |
| 21:17.21 | kremonte | well of course |
| 21:17.37 | kremonte | except for the people that post "i dont want people using damagemeters, theyre scanning my client and giving them an unfair advantage!" |
| 21:17.38 | Cair | so they will never give skinning an approving nod |
| 21:24.00 | cladhaire | Evening all |
| 21:24.20 | Cair | hey cladhaire :) |
| 21:24.21 | cladhaire | Are any other druids having shapeshifting issues? |
| 21:24.56 | kremonte | how so? |
| 21:25.48 | cladhaire | The game lags for a good 2 seconds.. complete standstill.. on every shapeshift |
| 21:25.58 | cladhaire | that's with teh default blizzard UI |
| 21:25.59 | Guillotine | nope |
| 21:26.01 | Iriel | With no addons? |
| 21:26.04 | Iriel | odd. |
| 21:26.07 | cladhaire | i'm blowing out my WTF folder to see if its something weird that. |
| 21:26.08 | Guillotine | it used to do that though |
| 21:26.10 | cladhaire | err there |
| 21:26.25 | Guillotine | probably is. once i blew up my WTF and WDB folders, mine was fixed |
| 21:26.53 | Cide | hmm.. anyone familiar with regular expressions? |
| 21:27.02 | Guillotine | yes |
| 21:27.05 | Guillotine | not me, but someone is |
| 21:27.10 | Cide | .. |
| 21:27.10 | Iriel | I am |
| 21:27.13 | Cide | okay |
| 21:27.20 | kremonte | lua isnt regexp! |
| 21:27.28 | Cide | I'm talking PHP |
| 21:27.35 | Iriel | I'm talking the abstract, so it doesn't matter what language |
| 21:27.36 | kremonte | ...:( |
| 21:27.36 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 21:27.42 | Iriel | Automata and Formal Languages FTW |
| 21:27.49 | Cide | I'm using "/\$[0-9]+[sxtd]/" |
| 21:27.58 | kremonte | i tried learning regexp for php. after a month of reading every day, i gave up |
| 21:28.05 | kremonte | posix is way too confused |
| 21:28.09 | kremonte | confusing |
| 21:28.14 | Cide | it doesn't match $13166d, but "/[0-9]+[sxtd]/" matches the 13166d part, am I escaping it wrong? |
| 21:28.31 | Iriel | Yes |
| 21:28.44 | Iriel | You want \\$ (or \\\$, or [\$]) |
| 21:28.51 | Cide | ah, sec |
| 21:28.52 | Iriel | depending on how php treats $'s and \'s |
| 21:29.13 | Iriel | I'd suggest the last one first, if that works, try one of the others if you dont like it |
| 21:29.17 | Iriel | I dont know PHP 8-) |
| 21:29.34 | Cide | \\$ worked, thanks |
| 21:29.46 | Iriel | But i'm pretty sure all you did with \$ was insert a literal $ into the string because PHP parses the \'s itself |
| 21:34.30 | Cair | I responded on (yet another) thread about skinning |
| 21:34.43 | Cair | think I should copy it and put it in the read me faq thread :p |
| 21:36.40 | Legorol | Good evening |
| 21:36.49 | Legorol | Yesterday, I loved Blizzard's EU test servers |
| 21:36.51 | Legorol | Today, I hate them |
| 21:37.34 | Cair | hey Legorol :) |
| 21:37.36 | Legorol | Why? Because they have enabled character copies to the PvE server too! |
| 21:37.52 | Legorol | Until now, the PvE server was deserted... I could log in any time to test AddOns |
| 21:38.03 | Legorol | Now it has a queue of 6000, waiting time of 4 hours so far and counting |
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| 21:38.38 | Legorol | ./rant off |
| 21:38.57 | Iriel | Ouch |
| 21:39.06 | Iriel | the US test servers tend to be fairly quiet no matter what |
| 21:39.12 | kremonte | yeah |
| 21:39.20 | kremonte | no queue, real laggy though since veryone is in IF |
| 21:39.31 | Iriel | I never go to IF on test 8-) |
| 21:39.36 | Legorol | you don't need to anymore! |
| 21:39.38 | Legorol | AHs everywhere |
| 21:39.41 | Iriel | Winterspring, gadget, etc |
| 21:39.43 | Iriel | works much better |
| 21:40.00 | Legorol | well the thing is, in EU what happens is that you get to create lvl 60s in full epic gear on the test realms |
| 21:40.08 | kremonte | wah? |
| 21:40.16 | Legorol | so of course as soon as the test servers are up, the entire EU population descends on them |
| 21:40.27 | Legorol | Well in case you didn't know: in US, you copy your own char to test |
| 21:40.42 | Legorol | in EU, you get given up to 2 level 60s in full epic gear, of your choice of class/faction |
| 21:41.00 | kremonte | wtf |
| 21:41.08 | kremonte | they just start out with epics? |
| 21:41.09 | Legorol | the theory behind it is that otherwise there wouldn't be enough 60s in good enough gear to test new content |
| 21:41.13 | Legorol | kremonte, yes |
| 21:41.14 | kremonte | >.> |
| 21:41.19 | Legorol | only since this test phase though |
| 21:41.22 | Industrial | "pwnt" |
| 21:41.23 | Industrial | :D |
| 21:41.24 | Legorol | it used to be full blue set |
| 21:41.30 | Legorol | this time they upgraded the chars |
| 21:41.35 | Legorol | so people can go test AQ |
| 21:41.46 | kremonte | aka: duel |
| 21:41.48 | Legorol | i can very well imagine that if it was copy-your-own there wouldn't be enough to test AQ |
| 21:42.18 | Legorol | unfortunately, this way eveyrone and their grandma runs around as level 60s and of course you get queues of 6000 |
| 21:42.23 | Legorol | it's shocking really.. |
| 21:42.33 | Legorol | you log in, just to have some 60 in full epic gear ask you how to summon a mount :( |
| 21:42.43 | kremonte | ... >_> |
| 21:42.52 | Industrial | lmao |
| 21:42.58 | Industrial | well, i dunno how to do that |
| 21:42.59 | Industrial | :p |
| 21:43.07 | Legorol | ok i exaggerated a bit, but the following did happen: |
| 21:43.16 | Legorol | the 60s we get have the epic mounts |
| 21:43.26 | Legorol | except the palis/locks that get the appropriate spell instead |
| 21:43.33 | kremonte | still an epic mount ;p |
| 21:43.44 | Legorol | so i got asked by one of the palis, how come he doesn't have epic mount in inventory? |
| 21:43.49 | Legorol | i could only sigh :) |
| 21:44.18 | Legorol | if you read the EU forums, there are constant arguments over whehter eveyrone should be allowed onto the test or not |
| 21:44.23 | Legorol | personally, i think people should be allowed |
| 21:44.30 | Legorol | i don't see anything wrong with people trying out the lvl 60s |
| 21:44.39 | Legorol | if anything, it gives them incentive to level their real characters ;-) |
| 21:44.42 | Industrial | i tihnk they should scrap login when a server has a queue of 6000 |
| 21:44.45 | Industrial | ;) |
| 21:44.57 | Legorol | unfortunately, it also means there is huge queue and the dumbest questions |
| 21:45.15 | Industrial | they should give accounts with a lvl 60 char access |
| 21:45.16 | Legorol | and there are plenty of hardcore players who run around EU forums saying anyone who doesn't have a lvl 60 real character shouldn't be allowed on |
| 21:45.21 | Legorol | Industrial, that's just dumb |
| 21:45.28 | Industrial | why |
| 21:45.29 | Legorol | i don't have a lvl 60, but i want to test addons |
| 21:45.35 | Legorol | should i be excluded? |
| 21:45.35 | Industrial | well, get a lvl 60 |
| 21:45.41 | Legorol | no, i am a long way off |
| 21:45.47 | Industrial | well they have to draw a line |
| 21:46.13 | kremonte | l40+ :p |
| 21:46.21 | Legorol | if you are going to say that people who have dedicated about as much time to WoW as any other casual player who do have a lvl 60, but on top of that published popular AddOns, shouldn't be allowed access, i won't buy it |
| 21:46.22 | kremonte | cmon i got my alt from1-40 in a week |
| 21:46.32 | Legorol | yes but you have time to play |
| 21:46.35 | Legorol | i have very little time to play |
| 21:46.41 | Iriel | I'm with legorol on this one |
| 21:46.42 | Industrial | same here |
| 21:46.42 | kremonte | but you have time to make and test addons? |
| 21:46.49 | Legorol | yes, because it's more fun |
| 21:46.50 | kremonte | i mean |
| 21:46.51 | Industrial | i have 3 lvl 15's |
| 21:46.54 | Legorol | and i get less and les time for that too |
| 21:46.54 | Iriel | Perhaps say only people with real L60's get to create a fully equipped L60 |
| 21:46.58 | Industrial | but i also dont know wnough to test it |
| 21:46.59 | Industrial | my point |
| 21:47.00 | Industrial | ;) |
| 21:47.00 | kremonte | people get the guest pass |
| 21:47.04 | Iriel | but you can't deny ACCESS to others |
| 21:47.06 | kremonte | then 2 free lvl60s withfull epics |
| 21:47.17 | Legorol | kremonte, it's only temporary anyway |
| 21:47.21 | Legorol | for the testing period |
| 21:47.23 | Legorol | then they wipe the chars |
| 21:47.29 | Legorol | and besides, what's wrong with a little teaser? |
| 21:47.31 | kremonte | but then not everyone can test it |
| 21:47.34 | Legorol | it's not like you can do much with these |
| 21:47.57 | Iriel | Ok forgive me while I ignore you all, but I need to work on StatRings |
| 21:47.57 | kremonte | addons are one thing |
| 21:48.00 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 21:48.00 | Legorol | to be honest the reason why i don't think it's a problem is because it's totally different to have levelled your own char and get given one |
| 21:48.04 | Legorol | it just doesn't feel the same |
| 21:48.09 | Legorol | bye bye Iriel |
| 21:48.13 | kremonte | but to put a level 1 into a lvl60 and expect him to test AQ? |
| 21:48.22 | Legorol | they don't expect that |
| 21:48.33 | Legorol | actually there were some constructive discussions on this on EU forums |
| 21:48.40 | Legorol | what the conclusions were can be summarised as: |
| 21:48.55 | Legorol | whether you have a lvl 60 or not has nothing to do with whehter you are a good software tester/debugger |
| 21:48.59 | kergoth | yay statrings |
| 21:49.22 | Legorol | just like you can't expect lvl 10s to play a lvl 60 well and test new content, similarly most lvl 60 owners won't be good testers |
| 21:49.37 | Legorol | they won't have the skills to test, concisely report, and be patient with bugs |
| 21:49.47 | Legorol | it's just a totally different thing |
| 21:49.53 | Legorol | than playing the game |
| 21:50.06 | kremonte | well the process is one thing, but you say you have 6 thousand Q's |
| 21:50.07 | Iriel | I think you could say most PLAYERS wont be good testers |
| 21:50.09 | Iriel | reagrdless of their level |
| 21:50.13 | Legorol | So therefore you might as well give everyone access, thereby maximising the chance that people with actual testing skills get on there |
| 21:50.16 | Iriel | Them being L60 is irrelevant |
| 21:50.28 | Legorol | Iriel, exactly |
| 21:50.39 | Legorol | I do agree that those who have leveld a char to 60 are likely to know more about the game, |
| 21:50.40 | kremonte | thats not what im saying >< |
| 21:50.45 | Legorol | and therefore are likely to make better testers |
| 21:50.50 | kremonte | i'm not arguing that you should be l60 to have a char on test |
| 21:50.52 | Legorol | but the correlation is by no means absolute |
| 21:51.09 | kremonte | i'm saying that if you could just give anyone a test pass then they'd play on test server just to play a 60, not to test the patch |
| 21:51.17 | kremonte | which creates really unnecessary queues |
| 21:51.35 | Legorol | that is correct, but given the choice between restricting access and having queues, |
| 21:51.39 | Legorol | i have to say go for the queues |
| 21:51.46 | Legorol | even though i suffer as a result too :( |
| 21:52.18 | Legorol | well i gotta go, thanks for the chat |
| 21:52.23 | Cair | later Legorol :) |
| 21:52.23 | kremonte | have a good one :) |
| 21:52.43 | Legorol | earlier my ISP dropped me after 2.5 hours of queueing :( |
| 21:52.51 | kremonte | :( |
| 21:54.53 | Cair | ugh, that sucks |
| 22:05.56 | Guillotine | has anyone else noticed that Horde seems to own WSG while alliance owns AB? |
| 22:06.03 | Guillotine | or is it just on my server? |
| 22:06.13 | kremonte | same here |
| 22:06.16 | kremonte | well |
| 22:06.19 | kremonte | horde owns WSG when my guild isnt there ;) |
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| 22:18.06 | Auzhia | I had a lvl 38 hunter |
| 22:18.08 | Auzhia | night elf |
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| 22:28.49 | kremonte | yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn |
| 22:29.46 | Cair | yo |
| 22:30.18 | Tain | So tired |
| 22:30.25 | Industrial | Cair: you any good with Cascading Style Sheets? |
| 22:30.27 | Tain | So glad work week is over. |
| 22:30.31 | Cair | nope |
| 22:30.33 | Industrial | Tain: amen |
| 22:30.37 | Industrial | Cair: k |
| 22:30.39 | Tain | Are those like the things you put in the dryer to make your clothes all fresh? |
| 22:30.47 | Industrial | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/ |
| 22:30.57 | Industrial | thats the stuff that makes it look pretty |
| 22:31.02 | Industrial | FF makes it look ugly atm |
| 22:31.05 | Industrial | IE is kind of ok |
| 22:31.06 | Industrial | :p |
| 22:31.21 | kremonte | im good with CSS |
| 22:31.24 | kremonte | wot'ye need |
| 22:31.29 | Industrial | i want it to wrap around the text |
| 22:31.39 | Industrial | and the text to be centered, not a bit to the top like now |
| 22:31.40 | kremonte | what do you want to wrap around the text =o |
| 22:31.46 | Industrial | the background images |
| 22:31.49 | kremonte | vertical-align: middle should work |
| 22:31.52 | kremonte | i'm using FF >< |
| 22:31.54 | kremonte | hold on |
| 22:31.54 | Industrial | doesnt |
| 22:31.58 | kremonte | lemme load internet exploder |
| 22:32.22 | Industrial | :) |
| 22:32.27 | Industrial | i have IE INSIDE FF |
| 22:32.36 | Industrial | IETab, gotta love that extension |
| 22:32.56 | kremonte | o_O |
| 22:33.00 | kremonte | lemme get it. haha |
| 22:33.02 | Industrial | *click* IE render *click* FF render *click* IE render |
| 22:33.04 | Industrial | etc |
| 22:33.05 | Industrial | :p |
| 22:35.17 | kremonte | wow my attention span is small |
| 22:35.23 | Industrial | ^^ |
| 22:35.25 | kremonte | i went to the ietab site and started reading |
| 22:35.27 | kremonte | and forgot about irc |
| 22:35.29 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:35.34 | Industrial | kergoth has that too |
| 22:35.37 | Industrial | hey ker |
| 22:35.39 | Industrial | ker.. |
| 22:35.40 | Industrial | ker/ |
| 22:35.43 | Industrial | KER! |
| 22:35.44 | Industrial | lol |
| 22:36.35 | kremonte | oh youre talkinga bout the top bar? |
| 22:36.45 | kremonte | or you want it wrap around all of it |
| 22:37.17 | Industrial | no about the bar |
| 22:37.19 | Industrial | #nav |
| 22:37.20 | Industrial | :) |
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| 22:37.38 | kremonte | in ietab view source makes it pop out in notepad ;( |
| 22:37.47 | Cair | hey! |
| 22:38.36 | Guillotine | how do you broadcast a message with CTRA? |
| 22:38.43 | kremonte | so you want the bar not to be full width? |
| 22:39.14 | tyndral | something along the lines of /ctra help will give you all the slash commands, Guill. |
| 22:39.32 | tyndral | [which is to say, I forget..] |
| 22:39.37 | Industrial | kremonte: yes |
| 22:40.45 | kremonte | hrm |
| 22:41.44 | tyndral | hmm.. something [other than SaveBindings() calls] is reliably crashing test for me at login. |
| 22:41.58 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 22:41.59 | purl | ACTION slaps RasmusKL upside the head with a frenic horrid trout of pwnage |
| 22:42.05 | kergoth | meh, still borked |
| 22:42.10 | kergoth | purl: forget emulate \me |
| 22:42.10 | purl | kergoth: i didn't have anything called 'emulate \me' to forget |
| 22:42.14 | kergoth | purl: forget emulate me |
| 22:42.27 | kremonte | Industrial - i think it has something to dow with the body width |
| 22:42.32 | kremonte | the div wants to go the full width |
| 22:42.33 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 22:42.34 | purl | ACTION hmmms. |
| 22:42.39 | kergoth | yay, fixed |
| 22:42.49 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 22:42.50 | purl | Ooh look, shiny! Erm, I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was |
| 22:42.53 | kremonte | i forgot how to fix it |
| 22:43.02 | kremonte | i used to have that problem all the time ;( |
| 22:43.03 | Tain | yay kergoth |
| 22:43.28 | Legorol | ~emulate me |
| 22:43.49 | Tain | Hey kergoth I'm using your Table Traversal routine |
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| 22:46.51 | Cair | hey Gello :) |
| 22:47.00 | Gello | heya. i bet this place is busy on tuesdays |
| 22:47.07 | tyndral | ok, that's a start: whatever is crashing test stgarts with a D. :) |
| 22:47.13 | Cair | Wasn't too bad this week |
| 22:47.13 | tyndral | *goes back to fiddling* |
| 22:47.17 | Cair | will see next week |
| 22:47.25 | Cair | s/will/we'll/ |
| 22:47.45 | Tain | ~tuesday |
| 22:47.46 | purl | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 22:48.00 | Tain | Could be. |
| 22:49.01 | kremonte | ~wednesday |
| 22:49.02 | purl | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 22:49.13 | kremonte | purl is never happy -_-" |
| 22:49.20 | kremonte | purl, die |
| 22:49.22 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 22:50.15 | Cair | ~saturday |
| 22:50.17 | purl | Saturday is the day that sucks the least! |
| 22:50.18 | tyndral | ...whatever is crashing Test starts with "Discord" meh. |
| 22:50.32 | Tain | Yay Saturday! |
| 22:50.40 | kremonte | yay saturday! |
| 22:51.30 | Gello | older DAB was crashing i saw on forum, but 3.0? was working fine. (don't use DAB here so not sure) |
| 22:52.15 | tyndral | mpf. 3.0 is beta, and will probably futz my settings. mind you, if I'm going to get my settings futzed, Test is the place to be. |
| 22:52.21 | tyndral | *heads off to mess up settings* |
| 22:52.47 | kremonte | *futzes settings for tyndral* |
| 22:53.05 | tyndral | ..or not. |
| 22:53.12 | tyndral | i get a 404 trying to dl the latest beta. |
| 22:53.18 | tyndral | pft. |
| 22:54.09 | Gello | did you look for any SaveBindings() in it? that's known to crash test |
| 22:54.29 | tyndral | yup, did that while I was waiting for it to patch my test install :) |
| 22:54.31 | Guillotine | is there any website with a full command list for CTRA? |
| 22:54.35 | tyndral | had one, commented it. |
| 22:54.40 | Iriel | Did you look for any LoadBindings? |
| 22:54.44 | Iriel | and does that crash Test too? |
| 22:55.04 | tyndral | dunno, hang on and i'll a] see if it crashes test, and b] see if it's in DAB. |
| 22:56.05 | tyndral | naw, LoadBindings() doesn't crash the client. |
| 23:01.50 | tyndral | oh, and it seems 'futz' was being gentle. dab 3.0 will entirely hose my settings. |
| 23:02.17 | Gello | ouch |
| 23:02.24 | Iriel | Just update the code to call SetBindings(0) |
| 23:02.27 | Iriel | And be done with it |
| 23:02.27 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 23:03.55 | Guillotine | i just joined an MC PUG... |
| 23:04.04 | Guillotine | im going to switch the CTRA channel to IF General now |
| 23:04.17 | kremonte | rofl |
| 23:05.13 | Cide | you can't :P |
| 23:05.24 | kremonte | :( |
| 23:05.27 | Cide | well |
| 23:05.42 | Cide | it doesn't allow spaces, but I guess you could if you're in IF at the time and just reference it with General |
| 23:08.53 | Gello | anyone played with alphamodes before? i'm trying to turn an existing square into a circle |
| 23:10.13 | Tain | Aaaaaan Circle gets the Square. |
| 23:10.33 | Iriel | They appear rather limited Gello |
| 23:10.45 | Iriel | I've found no way of hiding part of one texture using another's alpha |
| 23:11.05 | Iriel | Though if you do figure out how to do it, let me know 8-) |
| 23:11.16 | Gello | hehe ok i'll keep trying |
| 23:15.49 | Mondinga | what alpha modes actually exist/function? |
| 23:15.55 | Mondinga | dont remember anything but ADD doing jack |
| 23:16.32 | Gello | BLEND, DISABLE and ALPHAKEY. but it appears all but DISABLE do the same thing |
| 23:16.50 | Gello | however looking at the UI.xsd it looks like blend is used for the gradient tag but i'm not certain |
| 23:17.00 | Mondinga | hmm |
| 23:17.59 | Gello | DISABLE appears to ignore the alpha channel which sounds right. i was hoping BLEND or ALPHAKEY would "combine" alphas for two textures but it kinda makes sense if it has no knowledge of what's beneath it |
| 23:19.05 | tyndral | any hunters played on test? |
| 23:19.17 | tyndral | [assuming this is hunter-specific, anyways] |
| 23:19.29 | Guillotine | cide: everyone's in IF right now. lol |
| 23:19.54 | Cide | I'm in org ;) |
| 23:20.03 | Iriel | Yes, i'm a hunter |
| 23:20.05 | Iriel | oddly enough |
| 23:20.07 | Iriel | and i'mon test |
| 23:20.39 | tyndral | regardless: [and this is only aesthetic] what is with the seemingly random fireworks when firing at mobs? i thought it was on crit at first, but it's just random. particle effect, red and yellow, around the mob on some hits. |
| 23:20.50 | tyndral | it's new, and it's unrelated to any spells i have. |
| 23:20.53 | Iriel | oh the MOB? |
| 23:20.54 | tyndral | [and it looks naff] |
| 23:20.55 | Iriel | Hm, I dont know |
| 23:20.58 | Iriel | for normal attacks? |
| 23:21.22 | Cide | I saw that when we raided |
| 23:21.26 | Iriel | Arcane Shot |
| 23:21.32 | tyndral | let me play with it a bit more. i've noticed it on Aimed Shot and on Concussive Shot so far. I'll just nail normal arrows on something and see what happens. |
| 23:21.33 | Iriel | They've added a spell effect |
| 23:21.44 | tyndral | naw, wasn't arcane shot, i rarely use it. |
| 23:22.39 | tyndral | er, ok, it happens reliably on arcane shot. |
| 23:22.41 | Iriel | Aimed shot does it too |
| 23:22.53 | tyndral | but i'm sure i saw it *sometimes* with aimed shot. |
| 23:22.56 | tyndral | but not always. |
| 23:23.00 | tyndral | lemme try some more. |
| 23:23.06 | tyndral | [looks naff. really does.] |
| 23:23.33 | Iriel | That it does |
| 23:24.22 | tyndral | ok, so it's not seemingly random, and it happens every tim eon Aimed Shot and Arcane shot. :) |
| 23:24.31 | tyndral | i stand by my judgement of it though. |
| 23:24.54 | kremonte | what does naff mean? |
| 23:25.17 | tyndral | it's the opposite of brill. |
| 23:25.21 | tyndral | :) |
| 23:25.26 | tyndral | means bad. |
| 23:25.42 | tyndral | 'wack' perhaps? |
| 23:26.20 | tyndral | *struggles to come up with US slang* |
| 23:27.20 | Mondinga | straight fucked, perhaps |
| 23:27.40 | tyndral | sure, that sounds appropriate. |
| 23:28.00 | Cair | lol |
| 23:28.01 | tyndral | on a more positive note: everything i've written still works on test. |
| 23:30.37 | Iriel | I was impressed someone used 'naff' correctly |
| 23:31.20 | kremonte | http://dan-rouse.com/WoWScrnShot_112505_182842.jpg hows that look so far? |
| 23:31.22 | Iriel | Naff has about the same magnitude of meaning as say, tacky, but is more along the lines of 'lame' |
| 23:31.30 | kremonte | (specifically the bottom) |
| 23:33.36 | Cair | sad, pathetic, lame, stupid in appearance |
| 23:33.50 | kremonte | are you describing naff or my ui :( |
| 23:33.53 | Cair | more or less, hmmm? |
| 23:33.53 | Cair | naff |
| 23:33.57 | kremonte | lol |
| 23:34.02 | kremonte | good :o |
| 23:34.27 | Iriel | I'd say 'pathetic' is too strong for naff tho |
| 23:38.04 | zeeg | Cair |
| 23:38.06 | zeeg | does dolby come in here? |
| 23:38.18 | Cair | sometimes, not much though, he's usually pretty busy |
| 23:38.56 | Cair | if you need to talk to him that can't be done easily by PM or thread, I can poke him and ask him if he's got time to pop on |
| 23:38.58 | zeeg | think you could get him to stop by to talk with me about patcher stuff |
| 23:39.04 | zeeg | ya id rather do it over IRC |
| 23:39.05 | zeeg | its easier for me |
| 23:39.20 | Cair | hang on, seeing if he's around atm |
| 23:39.46 | tyndral | wow. i just broke my chat windows. |
| 23:39.49 | tyndral | somehow. |
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| 23:40.55 | tyndral | i now have 5 seperate windows which i can happily resize. |
| 23:41.19 | tyndral | however, the mouseover area is about 10 pixels short of letting me actually move the damn things. |
| 23:41.52 | Legorol | heyho, is there a Warlock around that is using ShardTracker? |
| 23:41.53 | tyndral | it's like the tags don't exist. they show up if i mouse over the window, but not if i mouse over the tags themselves. |
| 23:42.05 | Cair | Okay, he isn't on any of the sites atm and isn't responding to my IM, so he must be snoozing or at work ... I'll keep an eye out for him though |
| 23:42.11 | kremonte | Legorol, i do |
| 23:42.50 | Legorol | kremonte, does it work fine on the live realms? |
| 23:42.57 | Legorol | i mean does it show your shard count properly? |
| 23:43.03 | Legorol | if so, any chance you can try on the test realm too? |
| 23:43.23 | Legorol | i have created a lock on the test realm and it doesn't show the count for me |
| 23:43.36 | Legorol | i think i narrowed it down but i'd like someone else to try a lock on the test realm too with ShardTracker |
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| 23:46.29 | tyndral | well, that was neat. |
| 23:46.48 | tyndral | exiting test to kill my chat chache gave me a bsod. |
| 23:48.30 | Cair | gack |
| 23:48.45 | tyndral | my thoughts precisely. |
| 23:49.31 | Guillotine | haha. <3 /rarly |
| 23:50.07 | Guillotine | cide: do you mind if i make a version for my guild of CTRA that adds a picture of the O Rly bird? |
| 23:50.20 | Guillotine | it just isnt complete without the picture |
| 23:50.41 | Cide | no, but have fun maintaining it |
| 23:50.46 | Gello | make it spam the o rly bird when someone says 'mt dead' |
| 23:50.48 | Cair | zeeg |
| 23:50.59 | Cair | he won't be able to log in until after 11pm cst |
| 23:51.03 | Cair | he's at work |
| 23:51.17 | Guillotine | lol. ill just take the most recent version and copy and paste my code into it... |
| 23:51.48 | Guillotine | right before we won AB, i did /rarly. its amazing how many people don't even know they have CTRA |
| 23:52.32 | Cide | haha, yep |
| 23:52.56 | Legorol | I think I have discovered a slight tooltip behavioural change in 1.9: |
| 23:53.16 | Legorol | if you are using hidden tooltips, now you cant just use tooltip:Setxxxx to set its text, but you *must* do a tooltip:SetOwner(...) first |
| 23:53.22 | Legorol | Can anyone confirm or deny this? |
| 23:53.53 | Legorol | I found that tooltip:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_NONE") is sufficient for the purpose |
| 23:54.17 | Gello | on live now but i can double check fairly soon |
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| 23:54.44 | Cide | I noticed that TooltipTextLeft/RightX:IsVisible() didn't work the same way in 1.9, I probably missed something evident in the 1.9 changes thread.. any idea why? |
| 23:55.03 | Legorol | Cide, they should work afaik, at least i didn't notice any difference |
| 23:55.12 | Legorol | however, you might be affected by what i just mentioned above, could that be it? |
| 23:55.21 | Cide | text worked just fine |
| 23:55.22 | Iriel | You may need to use IsShown() instead |
| 23:55.30 | Cide | but IsVisible didn't return true |
| 23:55.32 | Iriel | I suspect that may be both of your problems |
| 23:55.44 | kremonte | what does /rarly do? X) |
| 23:55.54 | Cide | Iriel: IsShown is if the Show flag is set to true, IsVisible is only true if all parents are visible? |
| 23:56.01 | Cide | kremonte: test it! |
| 23:56.03 | Iriel | That's my udnerstanding |
| 23:56.10 | Cide | ah, that would do it I guess |
| 23:56.10 | Legorol | i'd phrase it slightly differently |
| 23:56.13 | Iriel | * Textures and FontStrings both will have the :IsShown() method (returns true if object would be visible if the parent was visible) |
| 23:56.14 | kremonte | noone available to invite :( |
| 23:56.19 | kremonte | everyone in my guild is in ZG or AV |
| 23:56.19 | Legorol | IsVisible is if the object is actually being rendered, for whatever reason |
| 23:56.22 | kremonte | AB* |
| 23:56.25 | Legorol | including all parents being visible |
| 23:56.27 | Iriel | Slouken fixed a whole bunch of shown/hidden logic here and there |
| 23:56.37 | Legorol | i guess tooltip thing might be affected by it |
| 23:56.38 | Iriel | It's possible it accidently broke a bunch of things that shouldn't have worked before |
| 23:56.50 | Legorol | Iriel, want to update the 1.9 changes post with the tooltip thing i mentioned? |
| 23:56.54 | Cide | ie 'fixed'? :P |
| 23:56.56 | Legorol | or you want some confirmation first |
| 23:57.01 | Mondinga | noticed one related change |
| 23:57.02 | Legorol | i can also post it in the thread for you if you like |
| 23:57.04 | Iriel | Can you verify that it's not just a Shown/Visible different? |
| 23:57.07 | Iriel | difference, even |
| 23:57.13 | Legorol | i will do some more testing |
| 23:57.17 | Cide | Iriel: I'll check when I'm on test later, I'm doing ZG now |
| 23:57.18 | Iriel | If it's Shown/Visible, then you should post a 'By the way, check this' post |
| 23:57.18 | Legorol | i don't think it is though |
| 23:57.21 | Mondinga | was doing SetOwner, then SetPoint to manually move it, and then Show |
| 23:58.01 | Legorol | My test case is this: ShardTracker is using hidden tooltip for inventory parsing |
| 23:58.01 | Mondinga | and it ignored SetPoint on test, tho not live |
| 23:58.01 | Iriel | If it's an actual difference, then i'll update the thread 8-) |
| 23:58.01 | Mondinga | worked to show it then move tho |
| 23:58.01 | Legorol | it simply does tooltip:SetBagItem(bag, slot) |
| 23:58.01 | Legorol | that is broken on test server at the moment |
| 23:58.01 | Iriel | But is it? |
| 23:58.02 | Iriel | Does your scanning code use IsVisible? |
| 23:58.03 | Iriel | Lots of people do |
| 23:58.08 | Legorol | if i manually do a tooltip:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_NONE") once, it starts working |
| 23:58.09 | Iriel | And I think that SHOULD be IsShown |
| 23:58.12 | Iriel | instead |
| 23:58.19 | Legorol | no, IsVisible is not involved in any way |
| 23:58.24 | Iriel | Oh.. Hm. |
| 23:58.28 | Iriel | Interesting then. |
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| 23:58.35 | Cide | might be because it's not anchored? |
| 23:58.39 | Legorol | code in question: |
| 23:58.40 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.40 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.40 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.40 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.41 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.41 | Cide | before you call setowner |
| 23:58.53 | Legorol | the MoneyToggle is archaic leftover money protection thing, i think |
| 23:59.02 | Legorol | that section of the code is broken now on 1.9, works fine on 1.8 |
| 23:59.03 | Iriel | You should post it then as a 'should it be working this way' for slouken.. |
| 23:59.07 | Iriel | That sounds... odd... |
| 23:59.08 | Cair | hey AnduinLothar |
| 23:59.22 | AnduinLothar | yo |
| 23:59.23 | Legorol | well, i have always found it odd that tooltips didn't require a SetOwner to work |
| 23:59.40 | Legorol | and was infact always calling SetOwner myself first, until someone told me i didn't need to |
