irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20051203

00:00.11Cairo.O
00:00.15Legorolyou don't know tag?
00:00.22Legorolor is it called something else in the canadians
00:00.32Legorolwhen you chase around each other trying to catch people,
00:00.36Legoroland there is one person that is the chaser
00:00.40Cair~smack Legorol
00:00.41purlACTION smacks Legorol upside the head.
00:00.43Beladonain the canadians?
00:00.45KtronIt's called 'catch the eskimo' up there
00:00.48Beladonais canadians a country?
00:00.52Beladonalol
00:00.54Legorolwhen you catch someone, in the UK you say "you're it"
00:00.56Cair~smack Ktron
00:00.57purlACTION smacks Ktron upside the head.
00:00.57Legoroland the game's called "tag"
00:01.07Legoroloi, stop the smacking already... it hurts!
00:01.13BeladonaI have a more fun game
00:01.20Beladona<tag>Legorol</tag>
00:01.26Legorolnothing's more fun than pretending to be 6 years old
00:01.29Ktronpurl, how do I teach you?
00:01.31Beladonatype your tags in xml or lua format
00:01.31Legorollol @ Beladona
00:01.34Ktrondamn
00:01.50Ktronpurl, defend me
00:01.56Legorolbah.. you can count on coders ruinining a fun game for 6 year olds
00:02.06Legorolbut ok, i'm up for it
00:02.09BeladonaLegorol = IsTagged();
00:02.13Legorol<tag>Ktron</tag>
00:02.18Industrial(tag 'Legorol)
00:02.20Industrialkekeke
00:02.22LegorolLegorol ~= IsTagged()
00:03.07Beladonaif (self.Tagged = true) then TagUser("Legorol"); end
00:03.07Legorol<multitag><tag>Beladona</tag><tag>Industrial</tag></multitag>
00:03.08Legorolmuhaha
00:03.09Ktron<tagback>Legorol</tagback>
00:03.11Ktron<notagbacks>Ktron</notagbacks>
00:03.13Beladonaauto-tag!
00:03.23Legorolwhere's the OnUpdate in that, Beladona?
00:03.25Cairo.O
00:03.27Cairweirdos
00:03.30Beladonatrue
00:03.31Legorolyou forgot to register for the OnTagReceived event
00:03.35Beladonalol
00:03.52LegorolCair, you were the one suggesting for us to play... well what did you expect from a bunch of geeks ;-)
00:04.06Beladonathis is what you get when nerds drink
00:04.08Industrialfunction Industrial:OnUpdate() Industrial:setVar('tagged','false') end
00:04.11Industrialdoot doot
00:04.12Industrial:P
00:04.21LegorolIndustrial, that'll destroy the tag
00:04.26Legorolyou can't do that, you must pass it on
00:04.27Industriali win
00:04.27Industrial:D
00:04.33Industrialhmm
00:04.33Legorolno, you cause a deadlock.
00:04.57Beladonathat effectively unsets the tagged variable, destroying it
00:05.01Legorolif (NumTaggedUsers() < 1) then TagUser("Industrial") end
00:05.06Legorolthat'd be a deadlcok then
00:05.09Beladonayou must reset it or suffer an error in the tag interrpreter
00:05.14Legorolyarr
00:05.14Industrialfunction Industrial:OnUpdate() Industrial:setVar('tagged','false') Industrial:Act('tag',rand(curChannel.Persons)) end
00:05.16Industrial:p
00:05.22Beladonaok I am stopping
00:05.23Legorolthat's better!
00:05.26Beladonathis is getting weird
00:05.28Industrialke ke ke
00:05.30Legorolalready?
00:05.32Legorolthat was quick..
00:05.34Industrialhah
00:05.36Legorolok, how about another game..
00:05.50Industriali once made a program that went to the supermarket and fetched energy drink for me
00:05.52Industrialand paid
00:05.53BeladonaFunction HotPotato()?
00:05.55Industrial:E
00:06.30LegorolYou guys and ladies know the one about the tapping one? You sit in a circle and put both hands on the table, but you do it so you cross arms with the people on either side of you
00:06.38Cairgood thing I actually *like* you guys, otherwise I'd have to mock you indefinitely
00:06.44Legorollol
00:06.51Industriallol Cair
00:06.53Industrial:<
00:07.02LegorolCair, you can mock us even if you like us ;-)
00:07.10LegorolJoin the fun!
00:07.13CairOh, I do that, too
00:07.17Beladonayou just wish you could participate, but can't because you don't know the code
00:07.22kergothsetmetatable(potato, {__call = potato.throw_if_hot})  potato()
00:07.24Industrial( I mock in parenthesis -- haha ! )
00:07.25Cairnaw, haven't actually started drinking yet
00:07.28Osagasuthis entire thing is getting edited and sent to bash.org
00:07.44IndustrialOsagasu: :X
00:07.47Beladonanice kergoth
00:07.52Cairohhhhhhh, oh Bela ... that sounded mightily close to a dare to me ...
00:08.18Industrialmore vodka!
00:08.22CairI *do* know code, I just know xml :p
00:08.39Beladonammm
00:08.55Industrialyay for red bull vodka miz
00:08.57Industrialmix*
00:08.59OsagasuXML =/= programming
00:09.02Beladonaxml can't respond to variables on its own
00:09.08Industrialxml is tagging
00:09.11Industrialso its very valid
00:09.13Industrial:D
00:09.29Osagasupeople are trying to make a programming language based off an XML style though
00:09.35IndustrialBeladona: no source can. it needs an interpreter
00:09.44Beladonaright
00:10.16Industrialhttp://digigen.nl/~Industrial
00:10.18Industrialphp5 sucks
00:10.19Industrial:(
00:10.26CairOh yeah, have you guys seen this yet?  Freaking nuts!  http://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
00:10.28BeladonaI was a bit dissapointed with it myself
00:10.32Industriali wanted to pick php up again, but i un-learnt it
00:10.33Industrial:p
00:11.00CodayusHey, does anyone know offhand when you hit the half-way mark to 60?
00:11.01BeladonaI didn't like how they depreciated mysql for mysqli
00:11.08Beladonabroke older programs
00:11.47IndustrialCair: WOAH!
00:11.49Codayus(That is, when have you earned 50% of the XP needed?  Since it's a curve, probably around lvl 45 or so?  Just wondering if anyone knew...)
00:11.49IndustrialCOOL!
00:11.56Beladonaand php5 still has an issue on the windows platform
00:12.06Cairamazing, hey Indu?
00:12.32Beladonaholy crap
00:12.36Cairyeah!
00:12.42Cairhttp://media.putfile.com/WizardsofWinter-SM
00:12.47Cairwatch it folks, it's ... OMG
00:12.51CodayusOkay, that's scarily impressive.
00:13.09BeladonaTHAT is what happens when nerds put up Christmas lights
00:13.11CairI actually saw it a few days back
00:13.14Beladonalol
00:13.17Ktronjere
00:13.21Ktronhere's a game
00:13.26Ktronpurl, nickometer Ktron
00:13.30Osagasuits been submitted as http://bash.org/?585718
00:13.40Ktronpurl, nickometer Cair
00:13.46Ktronpurl, nickometer Legorol
00:13.56Osagasupurl, nickometer kornuts
00:13.56Ktronpurl, nickometer BO|Razag
00:14.14Beladonawhat constitutes lame?
00:14.19IndustrialCair: hat was friggin AWESOME :D
00:14.27Beladonapurl, nickometer Beladona
00:14.31Guillotinehaha osagasu
00:14.31CodayusAt a guess, non-letters?
00:14.35Industrialpurl, nickometer Industrial
00:14.40Industrial:)
00:14.50Codayuspurl, nickometer Codayus
00:14.54Osagasunon-letters, leet speakj
00:14.57Osagasutoo long
00:15.06Osagasuforeign letters, IIRC
00:15.16Beladonapurl, nickometer LawjoskarAway
00:15.22Osagasuñ would be lame
00:15.27l33tz0r111purl, nickometer l33tz0r111
00:15.32l33tz0r111Yay!
00:15.33Osagasupurl, nicometer ñina
00:15.40Osagasupurl, nickometer ñina
00:15.44Osagasusee
00:16.09OsagasuI managed to get a nick at like 99.995 once
00:16.13Industrialpurl, nickometer 31337
00:16.19Industrial=(
00:16.23Codayus:-)
00:17.11Osagasu=D
00:17.14CairI still ... can you imagine the TIME it took to make this video?  it's wild
00:17.17Osagasupurl, nickometer =D
00:17.25Osagasu;_;
00:18.41Ktronpurl, nickmeter M4DL33Th4><0r!Z
00:18.42purlM4DL33Th4><0r!Z is 100% lame with a cherry on top!
00:18.47CairLOL
00:18.52Cairktron wins
00:18.55Industrialnice
00:18.55Beladonathe video didn't take long to make
00:18.58Anduin|Comatoseso, u think that's video editted or all on one master timer hooked up to a computer
00:19.05Guillotinelol. thats awesome cair
00:19.13Ktron~muhahaha
00:19.16purlMu ha ha ha, you're diabolic, ktron!
00:19.39Beladonathat video is literally everywhere on the net
00:19.48Cairnot a wonder
00:19.49Beladonasearch for Amazing Christmas Lights
00:20.19Beladonaomg
00:20.25BeladonaI have 3 of them playing at once in time
00:20.28Beladonaoffset
00:20.29CodayusKtron cheated, BTW.  :-)
00:20.31Beladonait sounds awesome
00:20.36Codayusnickmeter Ktron
00:20.45KtronI cheated?
00:21.01CairGryphon said they've got info on how to do it at planetchristmas.com
00:21.04CodayusGrrr, now purl won't talk to me.
00:21.13CodayusYeah - nickmeter != nickometer.  :-)
00:21.15Ktronpurl, love Codayus
00:21.16purlIf you love Codayus so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
00:21.16Cair<PROTECTED>
00:21.16Osagasupurl, nickometer Ktron
00:21.23Codayuspurl, nickmeter Ktron
00:21.25purlKtron is 100% lame with a cherry on top!
00:21.33CodayusDoh, my bad.
00:21.42Gryphenneed to link this chan and cosmostesters hehe
00:21.45Ktronpurl, forget nickmeter
00:21.45purlKtron: i didn't have anything called 'nickmeter' to forget
00:21.45CodayusSee?  nickmeter always returns a 100% rating.  :-)
00:21.54Gryphencairs copy/paste buttons are going to wear out
00:21.54Cair;)
00:21.59Ktronpurl, nickometer M4DL33Th4><0r!Z
00:22.00Cairheh
00:22.21KtronCodayus: didn't notice the typo, and take that then
00:22.23BeladonaI am thinking about doing a computer controlled light display at my house
00:22.28Beladonanow that you showed me that site
00:22.34CairI still like this one:  http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi
00:22.42CodayusKtron: Ah, I assumed you'd done that yourself.  Sorry.  :-)
00:23.42Beladonahttp://www.lightorama.com/
00:25.05KtronI wish I could teach Purl proper new things, like actions
00:25.26Beladonaooh, X-10 tech
00:25.42Beladonausing it would allow me to control household appliances via the web
00:25.54Beladonalike, turn on my driveway lights, by clicking a link
00:26.55CairKtron: purl, blah is <reply> whatever
00:27.06CairKtron: purl, emulate blah is <action> whatever
00:27.35Cair~emulate Cairenn
00:27.37purlACTION purrs, or <reply> Now play nice, children!
00:27.49Endlol
00:27.58Cairpurl, no, emulate Cairenn is <action> purrs!
00:28.00purlCair: okay
00:28.02KtronCair: hm... I'll look more...
00:28.07Cair~emulate Cairenn
00:28.09purlACTION purrs!
00:28.56CodayusHmmm.
00:29.01CodayusCTRA takes a long time to load...
00:30.32Ktronpurl, no, emulate Cairenn is <action> purrs!|<reply>Now play nice, children!
00:30.33purlokay, Ktron
00:30.40Ktronemulate Cairenn
00:30.50Ktron~emulate Cairenn
00:30.52purlACTION purrs!|<reply>Now play nice, children!
00:30.55Cairpurl, no, emulate Cairenn is <action> purrs!
00:30.57purlokay, Cair
00:31.07Ktronheh, the | didn't work
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00:31.36Cairhey Iriel!
00:32.09IrielHi again
00:32.19Cairhttp://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi
00:34.25Anduin|Comatoseanyone know if the new CTRA beta uses LoadWith on the clizz raid ui?
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00:34.32Anduin|Comatoseblizz*
00:35.30Anduin|Comatoseanyone here use MapNotes?
00:36.44Cairnot I Anduin|Comatose
00:37.06CodayusNope...used to, but I use the CT_MapMod these days...
00:37.35Anduin|Comatosemmm, ic SilverTrack is only in english, guess that means i should update TrackerTogggle instead since its multilingual
00:40.05futrtrublIriel, I recomend you look at the avi Cair is pushing ;']
00:40.18BeladonaIriel, you think you could assist me with a regular expression I am having problems with?
00:41.38Anduin|Comatosejust ask bel. Iriel's not the only one whose done regex
00:41.47Industrialok, got my new UI set up :D u guys r so gunna .. well i dunno i wub it :D
00:41.52Industrialuploading screen
00:42.00Beladonabel?
00:42.04Beladonaoh
00:42.19BeladonaI need to match something that is formatted as follows
00:42.39Beladona<mg:options>(match everything including whitespace, new lines)</mg:options>
00:43.14AnduinLothar"<mg:options>(.*)</mg:options>"
00:43.22Beladonatried that
00:43.24Beladonadidn't work
00:44.04AnduinLotharchecked to make sure <>: aren't regex special chars?
00:44.08Industrialhttp://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6852/wowscrnshot1203050141257go.jpg
00:44.09Industrialthere we go
00:44.11Beladonaproblem is< i coulda swore it worked before
00:44.13Industrialsexy innit?
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00:44.54AnduinLothartry strfind("<mg:options></mg:options>", "<mg:options></mg:options>")  to make sure those aren't special chars
00:45.23Industrialwell, well?
00:45.24Industrial:D
00:45.39Beladonaits in dreamweaver, I can't perform strfind there
00:45.50CairOkay, someone do me a favour, please?  If I reply to this guy it's gonna get ugly ... http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2548
00:45.59AnduinLotharind, it's empty
00:46.07Cairsomeone else respond, pretty please?
00:46.25IndustrialCair: allow me
00:46.33Beladonanot sure I understand what the hell he is asking
00:46.45AnduinLotharnewbness ftl
00:46.50futrtrublsorry, the only reply from me would be an unhelpful "Huh?"
00:46.55Cairmake him a mod and email it to him plzkthxby
00:47.23BeladonaI would make a mob that spams You Newb! everytime he hits the forward key
00:47.25Beladonamod
00:47.29Industrialhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11900#post11900
00:47.29kremontelmao
00:47.33IndustrialCair: like that? :E
00:47.38Cairwell, see, that's how *I* want to respond too, futrtrubl, and I shouldn't
00:47.45futrtrublmay I reply with a "Huh? kthnxby"
00:47.48kremontenice reply
00:47.50Industrial:D:D
00:47.57CairLOL indu
00:48.03Cairgo for it
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00:48.09Industrialthat should set the mood
00:48.13Industrialof the thread
00:48.13Industrial:D
00:48.17kremontehey Guillotine
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00:48.24CairI'm going to come along behind you all and reprimand you for being so mean though ;)
00:48.27Guillotinehey krem :)
00:48.35Guillotinedrunk yet cair?
00:48.38Caireven if in reality I'm sitting here pissing myself laughing
00:48.49Industrial:D
00:48.53BeladonaI replied
00:48.54Cairnope, not yet, just finished dinner (2 bagels), now to start drinking ;)
00:48.57Beladonaprofessionally
00:49.00Industriali need opinions and suggestions -> http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6852/wowscrnshot1203050141257go.jpg
00:49.05Guillotinewait. what thread is this?
00:49.21futrtrublI'll accept that reprimand, 'twas worth it
00:49.22kremonteCair, can i post
00:49.22kremonte[url=http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/aaaaaaaaaaaaahaha/]download your uh, mod here[/url]
00:49.25Cairoh, thanks Bela :)
00:49.29GuillotineIndustrial: too boring. get some Dart in there :D
00:49.40Industrialdart? oh noes!
00:49.46kremonteget some SOMETHING in there..thats really plain =/
00:49.51Industrialim now running wow and xchat, 80MB ram left
00:49.53Industrial:p
00:49.57Industrial(and Xp)
00:49.59Industrial(pro)
00:50.04Beladonammm
00:50.05Cairlol kremonte
00:50.07futrtrubldefinately need some dart in there
00:50.09kremontecan i can i can i
00:50.11Cairno
00:50.12Cairlol
00:50.17kremontemeanie
00:50.20Beladona2gb ram here... I will have to find out how to max it out
00:50.21Cairhehehhe
00:50.22Guillotinewhat thread are we talking about? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2548?
00:50.37CairGuillotine: yup
00:50.40Industriallol @ ahahahahaaahahaa flashey :D
00:50.54kremontei looked at that one for 30 minutes a week ago
00:50.56kremonte:(
00:50.59Industriallmao
00:51.03Industriali mean
00:51.07Industrialaaaaaaaaahahahahahaaa
00:51.09Industrial:D
00:51.14Industrialhiiiaaaaaa
00:51.15kremonteaaahahhahahahahahahaaaaahahahahhaaaaahahhaha
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00:51.22Cairrofl, thanks Bela, nicely professional, without taking away from the fact that we are laughing our asses off
00:51.28kremontelol
00:51.39Beladonahehe
00:51.48CairI just ... *twitch*
00:51.56Cairlol, couldn't reply, just couldn't
00:52.02Beladona<- used to stupid questions
00:52.12Beladonaor even incoherent ones
00:52.15kremontehow do u instal a ui modefikation?
00:52.21Cairnot without going, "hi, listen you fuckwit, grow a brain, lrn2typ"
00:52.35Natasemlol @ Guillotine
00:52.46Beladonahi, I saw this mod once, this guy was fishing, and he has this fish on his line. And it said success, can you make that for me? thx
00:52.53Beladonalol
00:53.04Cairand I try so hard to remain professional, but damn it's hard some days
00:53.09Guillotineok. i replied professionally
00:53.17Natasemlol no u didn't
00:53.19kremontelol
00:53.19Natasemliar
00:53.20Guillotineprofesionally unprofessional! hahaha!
00:53.35kremonteaaahhaha, ahhahhahahahhaha, aahahhhhahahahhahaha
00:53.39kremonteomg
00:53.42kremontei cant stop laughing
00:53.46Natasemhere is Guil's link to the mod  http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/aaaaaaaaaaaaahaha/
00:53.59Cairguys, stop, I'm gonna have to yell at you for serious if you don't
00:54.00Cairlol
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00:54.15kremontehahahhahahhahahahahhhahhahahhahahahhahahahahhahahhaha
00:54.26Beladonathat weebls thing hurts my brain
00:54.33CairI know, I hate it
00:54.37kremontetheres an alien with a spoon in its brain
00:54.37kremonteDUH
00:54.44kremonteaahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhaha aahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhaha aahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhaha aahahahhahahhhahahhahahahhaha
00:54.48Natasemanyone have the batman one where he sounds like he is being electrocuted?
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00:55.38Beladonadon't attack that guy too much. We don't want to scare people away. Although in all honestly some people should just be shot...
00:55.51kremonteso why shouldnt we scare him away again, Beladona?
00:56.01kremontei missed your point, sorry
00:56.02Beladonabecause its - erm, nice?
00:56.03Caircause we're nice people, remember?
00:56.06kremontelol
00:56.12kremonte[ 07:53 ] [@Cair] lol
00:56.13kremonte[ 07:53 ] * @Cair kills herself laughing
00:56.16Cairoh come on, we are, really
00:56.16kremontenice people :)
00:56.19Guillotinecan I link this guy to http://www.bash.org/?4753?
00:56.23Cairjust ... god
00:56.24BeladonaCair and I have to pretend we aren't making fun of them
00:56.30Beladonaeven though we think they are stupid too
00:56.37kremonteno no
00:56.44kremonteyou KNOW they are stupid
00:56.54Cairand we *do* have a policy of not flaming
00:56.55Guillotinekremonte, you have to link the guy to http://www.bash.org/?4753. you haven't posted anything in that thread yet either
00:57.02kremontesh. no.
00:57.04Beladonawell, in his defense, Einstein couldn't tie his own shoelaces
00:57.06Guillotinewe're not flaming. just a little friendly teasing
00:57.06kremontei have to be nice
00:57.19Beladonabut I am sure he could have figured out how to type coherently
00:57.55Cairsee, for me ... I don't have a problem with those that have a genuine problem with typing, or because English is their second language, or whatever
00:58.08Guillotinethe problem is ppl who try to be all L337
00:58.12BeladonaGuill, I am going to put that link in my sig
00:58.13Cairit's the *lazy* l337 stupid ones that piss me off
00:58.20Beladonait reflects my thoughts perfectly
00:58.23kremonte"hey im realy into wow mods but i saw a movie and it has a realy cool mods on it its had a 3d image and "
00:58.26Guillotineomg! i figured out how to make an irc thing for WoW!
00:58.34kremonte"hey im realy into wow mods but i saw a movie and it has a realy cool mods on it its had a 3d image and "
00:58.35Beladonahuh?
00:58.48Cairkremonte: o.O
00:58.49Guillotineand IRC interface with WoW so that you can chat with IRC through WoW
00:58.54kremontethats what he posted lol
00:58.58CairI know
00:58.59Guillotinean*
00:59.02kremontehe must be reaaallly into wow mods
00:59.16kremontehey lets sign his email adress up on ____________'s
00:59.27Guillotinelol @ kremonte
00:59.46Guillotineso anyway, heres how you make an addon for WoW that can interface with IRC:
01:00.01Beladonatile windows?
01:00.03Guillotinetake screenshots in morse code
01:00.08kremontelol
01:00.14Guillotinescreenshot. screenshot. screnshoooooot. screenshot
01:00.38kremontethe morse code idea is fun. *cough* interfaction communication /wink *cough* *sneeze*
01:00.57Osagasulol
01:01.00*** kick/#WoWI-lounge [Guillotine!n=Beladona@115-60.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] by Beladona (you dork)
01:01.01*** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57)
01:01.09Cairlol bela
01:01.09Osagasu... --- ...
01:01.13kremonte~whaleslap Beladona
01:01.14purlI'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap Beladona over the head with it.....
01:01.14Beladonahehe
01:01.38GuillotineBeladona is abusing operator privaleges!
01:01.47Cair~applaud Beladona
01:01.49purlACTION gives Beladona a standing ovation
01:01.49Beladonano I am abusing you
01:01.50Beladonathat is allowed
01:01.54Guillotineoh. ok
01:01.55AnduinLothari thought only blue whales were named hugh..
01:02.08kremonteajoin on kick is like, on 1:kick:*:{ if $nick == $me /j $chan } ?
01:02.13Cairwww.pornbits.net
01:02.17GuillotineNO cair!
01:02.21kremontelmao
01:02.32Cairthe internet is for porn
01:02.35Beladonadamn, this channel is slowing down my productivity. I think I am gonna just wait till tomorrow to finish my new compares and enjoy the channel...
01:02.37Cairthe internet is for porn
01:02.44Guillotineyou could say humans are just self-replicating poop factories
01:03.33Nat|AFK~kill me
01:03.38purlACTION shoots a hyper-charged  tachyon gun at nat|afk
01:03.38Ktronpurl, what are humans?
01:03.41purlKtron: what are you talking about?
01:03.51Cairokay, I have to stop watching that video, that song is stuck in my head now
01:03.56Nat|AFK~kill purl
01:03.58purlACTION shoots a ionized fluxtachyon gun at purl
01:04.08Nat|AFK~kill cair
01:04.09purlACTION shoots a charged proton gun at cair
01:04.21Cair~lart Nat|AFK
01:04.45Nat|AFK~lart cair
01:04.45Cairpurl, lart?
01:04.46purllart is probably Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool
01:04.56Cair~lart Beladona
01:04.58Nat|AFKhehe your a He now
01:05.29Nat|AFKok i realy got to get to work or i gona be here all freakin night
01:05.39Nat|AFKpeople are all happy today like it is friday or something
01:06.06Beladona~smack everyone
01:06.08purlACTION smacks everyone upside the head.
01:06.52Nat|AFK~punch beladona
01:06.53purlACTION hits beladona like the hot kiss and the end of a wet fist
01:07.08Nat|AFK?
01:07.14Nat|AFKbrb
01:07.19kremonte~shoot Beladona
01:07.20purlACTION shoots Beladona in the foot with a cork gun!
01:07.37Cair~undead foot
01:07.38purlAll hail the gigantic undead foot!
01:07.40BeladonaI don't get it, (.*?) should work for matching everything between two tags
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01:08.00AnduinLothar(.*) should
01:08.07LegorolBeladona, i don't know what language you are using, but often with regex you have to specify it to be multiline, i.e. treat newlines as ordinary chars
01:08.09Beladonathat matches part of the tags too though
01:08.14Beladonathe ? makes it lazy
01:08.15Nat|AFKk
01:08.16Legorolotherwise it's splitting up at newlines and only considering the first line
01:08.38Legorolcould that be the reason?
01:08.44kremonteanyone know off the top of their head the flexbar cmd for opacity?
01:08.55Beladonadon't have that option
01:08.55Legorolhttp://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/Combat+Wombat/
01:08.55Depheriosyeah
01:08.58Depheriosfade
01:08.59DepheriosI think
01:09.11BeladonaI am using Dreamweaver 8, trying to use regex in the Find and replace tool
01:09.13Depherios<PROTECTED>
01:09.21kremontearigato~
01:09.29Beladonathere are newlines
01:09.37Beladonabut the regex isn't processing it
01:10.28Beladonabasically I am trying to systematically remove unnecessary portions of code in my compares
01:10.31Beladonain xml
01:10.55Cairokay, tunes on and cranked, drink in hand, I hereby officially declare it Friday Night!
01:11.17Beladona<- angry
01:12.08BeladonaI swear I have accomplished it before, but like an idiot I didn't save the serach parameters
01:14.08Cairam I the only one partying?
01:14.21Beladonaplaying with code IS partying for me
01:14.24Beladonalol
01:14.38Cairwell, yeah
01:14.48Guillotine*cough* geek *cough*
01:14.51Legorolparty's over for me, got home..
01:14.55Legorolhence idling at the computer
01:14.58Guillotineyou fit in so well here beladona :)
01:15.06Ktronpurl, party
01:15.07purlWoohoo! Bot on the loose!
01:15.08CairI also know that geeks actually know how to party
01:15.14Cairhahah
01:15.19Legorolprove it!
01:15.20Beladonawell when you work as much as I do, dealing with people all day every day, time alone working on code or other projects is enjoyable
01:15.30Ktronpurl, prove legorol wrong
01:15.35Ktronpurl, prove it
01:15.49CairLegorol: who was that directed at?
01:15.54Legorolpurl, define "prove it" <action> proves it right!
01:16.03Legorolhmm.. how do you define new actions?
01:16.16LegorolCair: you
01:16.22Cairpurl, prove it is <action> proves it right!
01:16.23purlCair: what are you talking about?
01:16.29Legorolrofl!!!
01:16.32Cairhrm
01:16.41Legorolpurl, "prove it" is <action> proves it right!
01:16.43purlLegorol: I think you lost me on that one
01:16.47Legoroldang
01:16.59Legorolpurl, prove! is <action> proves it right!
01:17.00purlokay, Legorol
01:17.05Legorol~prove!
01:17.07purlACTION proves it right!
01:17.12CairLegorol: you want *me* to prove that I know that geeks know how to party?
01:17.22Cairo.O
01:17.24Ktronpurl, proof
01:17.26purlrumour has it, proof is for sissies.
01:17.31CairLOL
01:17.33Legorolehm.... i'm not sure anymore, Cair :-)
01:17.46Legoroli think it was "prove that geeks know how to party"
01:17.56Cairhehehhe, ask Iriel, he was at BlizzCon and remained sober
01:18.11Cairso he can attest to how the rest of us were partying
01:18.36Cairalthough, he did make pretty good inroads on my last drink, greedy bugger
01:18.55Legorolbut *you* having partied is no proof, you ain't no geek
01:19.07CairEXCUSE me?!
01:19.11Legorolor do you count yourself as one?
01:19.25CairLegorol, you tell me
01:19.26Legorolthat'd be the first time ever that someone got upset at me for saying they aren't geeks
01:19.28CairIt's friday night
01:19.33Cairwhat I am currently doing?
01:19.39Legoroldrinking?
01:19.43Cairand
01:19.48Legorolsocializing
01:19.51Cairwhere?
01:19.56Legoroldoesn't matter ;-)
01:20.07CairI do beleive I've made my point
01:20.22CairFriday night, and I'm spending it in an IRC chat room with a bunch of geeks
01:20.31Cairwtf would you call *me* then? hmmm?
01:20.35Legorolfriday night, and you are socializing with your friends
01:20.38Legorol:-)
01:20.52Legorolthat's not enough, my geek-o-meter doesn't register yet ;-)
01:20.55AnduinLotharshe wants to fut into a subculture, let the girl have her personality defining attachments
01:21.00Cairand what do I do all day long every day? run a bunch of MMORPG fan sites
01:21.15Legorolthat's a profession and/or hobby
01:21.27Legorolcompanies make money out of making mmorpgs ;-)
01:21.28Cairokay, I'm not a geek
01:21.35Legorollol, just teasing..
01:21.38Legoroli didn't mean to hurt you!
01:21.48Legoroldon't worry, you are just as geek as the rest of us..
01:21.51Legorolis that better? ;-)
01:21.54Beladonapurl, Legorol is <action> thinks Legorol is a dork!
01:21.55purl...but legorol is already something else...
01:21.56Cairnope, too late
01:22.00Beladonadoh
01:22.02Cair~hand Legorol
01:22.21Beladona~beat Legorol
01:22.22purlACTION beats Legorol with a large stick.
01:22.28Cairpurl, hand is <action> talk to the hand, $nick!
01:22.29purlCair: okay
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01:22.37Cair~hand Legorol
01:22.49Cairhrm
01:23.08futrtrublCan I comfort you Cair?
01:23.20kremonte~literal hand
01:23.21purl"hand" is "<action> talk to the hand, $nick!"
01:23.29kremonte~hand
01:23.31purlACTION talk to the hand, kremonte!
01:23.31kremontehmm
01:23.37Beladonapurl, dork is <action> agrees that $nick is a dork of grand proportions!
01:23.38purl...but dork is already something else...
01:23.48Beladona~literal dork
01:23.49purl"dork" is "<reply> Right back at you, $who."
01:23.53Cairwho needs comforting? I'm sitting here chair dancing to the BEPs, drinking a very yummy mudslide
01:23.54Beladonahmm
01:24.15futrtrublMudslides, I have stories about mudslides ;']
01:24.18Beladona~dork kremonte
01:24.28Beladona~dork
01:24.29purlRight back at you, beladona.
01:24.31Cairwoooo, Iriel is alive!
01:24.32Beladonalol
01:24.42kremonte~dork asdasd
01:24.43CairIriel, what can I get you to drink?
01:24.48kremontepurl sucks
01:24.49purlYou'd like that, wouldn't you?
01:24.53BeladonaHAHAHA
01:24.54CairLOL
01:24.58futrtrublLOL
01:25.04Beladonapurl is gay
01:25.10kremontepurl stinks
01:25.12Cair>< Beladona
01:25.12Beladonamm, we gotta fix that
01:25.16IrielI've just finished my coffee, so i'm ok for now.
01:25.17CairBela dear
01:25.46CairIrish?
01:25.47kremonte~literal sucks
01:25.48purl"sucks" is "<reply>(For twenty bucks I'll do more than that|Bite me.|Look who's talking|You suck.|You'd like that, wouldn't you?|For five bucks I just might|I'm only as good as you've helped make me .. idiot|If you give me $50 I'll do more than that!|I bite too.)"
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01:25.51Beladona~smack everyone
01:25.52purlACTION smacks everyone upside the head.
01:26.00Legorolok, this is scary.. Cair, how did you know Iriel was alive
01:26.04Legorolhe didn't even say anything
01:26.07Legorolcan you read minds?
01:26.09Beladonashe is psychic
01:26.10Cairin channel ...
01:26.11kremonte~literal is gay
01:26.13purl...but literal is already something else...
01:26.15kremonteer
01:26.18kremonteoops almost broke it
01:26.28Legoroli don't beleive you Cair, i think you can read minds!
01:26.28CairIriel: Irish?
01:27.07CairIf I could read minds, I wouldn't be sitting here wondering why I can't find anyone locally to have an affair with, I'd know who was willing ...
01:27.26Cairand I sure as hell wouldn't be sitting here in this channel on a Friday night
01:27.29Beladonatrust me, put up a sign
01:27.36Beladonamost guys are willing
01:27.52IrielCair: No, but probably later
01:27.55Cairyeah, when you're 20 and perky and cute
01:28.01Beladonabah
01:28.20Cairdun care, in a good mood, got my toons, got friends, got booze
01:28.33Cairerrr, tunes*
01:29.08Legoroli'm afraid I only have coke (no, the drink!), i can offer that but not much else
01:29.12Legorolmaybe orange juice too
01:29.48Cairthat's okay Legorol
01:29.55Cairyou don't need booze to have fun :)
01:30.02Beladonait sure helps though
01:30.05Cairnaw
01:30.21CairI've been drinking more in the last couple months than I've drunk in the last 10 years
01:30.25Beladonano I mea it sure helps you to have fun when someone else is boozing it up
01:30.30Beladonalol
01:30.35Cairand it *isn't* because I'm having more fun
01:33.30Cairhello? boy did that kill the conversation :p
01:33.46Beladona~party
01:33.48purlWoohoo! Bot on the loose!
01:34.31Cair~prove
01:37.24Legorol~literal prove
01:37.40Legorolah,
01:37.43Legorol~prove!
01:37.45purlACTION proves it right!
01:37.58Legorolpurl, forget prove!
01:37.58purlLegorol: i forgot prove!
01:38.07Legorolpurl, prove is <action> proves it right!
01:38.09purlokay, Legorol
01:40.30Tek|storewewt!
01:40.37Tek|storeanniversary gift!
01:40.42Tek|storenon perverse one
01:40.45Cairhey tek, wb!
01:41.01Tek|storewe bought a networked printer/scanner/fax
01:41.06Beladona~party
01:41.08purlWoohoo! Bot on the loose!
01:41.08Caircool
01:41.13Tek|store$100 at wally, very low profile
01:41.20Cair~prove
01:41.21purlACTION proves it right!
01:41.30Cair*very* nice
01:41.44Tek|storeit's fast too
01:41.45Cairand no, you don't have to tell us about your perverse gifts ;)
01:41.50Tek|storesheetfeeder on the scanner
01:42.00Cairalthough, *some* of us, at least, are working on partying
01:42.09BeladonaTilt!
01:42.10Tek|storegot aschey too
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01:42.17Beladonavery good, try it!
01:42.18Tek|storealchey
01:42.26AnduinLotharmeh, i work closing shift tonight, how lame is that..
01:42.32Tek|storeno mead or Ice wine tho
01:42.36Tek|store<PROTECTED>
01:42.51Cairyou wouldn't find Icewine down there
01:42.59Cairit's made 2 places in the world
01:43.02Tek|storeit was a nice liquor store tho, they might have it and we missed it
01:43.11Cairone area in Germany, and Ontario Canada
01:43.22Tek|storewell in CO there was a HUUUUGE siquor store near us
01:43.47Tek|storethey had the many-thousand dollar champagne and such
01:43.49Cairchances are still that they'd have to special order it in for you
01:43.58Cairwell, *maybe* then
01:44.02kremonteanyone know how to make flexbar forgot something?
01:44.08Tek|storeif anyone did they waulda
01:44.25Tek|storedelete it's savedvars
01:44.35CairI'm surprised though ... it's your 5th ... wtf are you doing online, go!
01:44.39Tek|storeif you'll be more specific we'll give a less drastic answer
01:44.53Tek|storehe's hogging the install shit
01:45.02Cairokay
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01:46.39Cairhey MentalPower
01:46.56MentalPowerhey Cair
01:46.59Guillotinehola mentalpower
01:47.02Guillotinecomo esas?
01:47.08Guillotineestas*
01:47.12MentalPowerbien y tu?
01:47.15GuillotineCairenn es muy drunko
01:47.27Guillotine:)
01:47.27MentalPowerlol
01:47.29AnduinLotharwow, i crashed wow
01:47.32*** topic/#WoWI-lounge by Cair -> WoWI-Lounge. Friday night! Get a drink, turn up the tunes, come play!
01:47.43Guillotinethats tem's job anduinlothar
01:47.58AnduinLotharException Raised!
01:47.58CairI am NOT drunk Guillotine
01:47.58AnduinLothar<PROTECTED>
01:47.58AnduinLothar<PROTECTED>
01:47.59AnduinLothar<PROTECTED>
01:48.11CairI haven't even finished my first drink yet, sheesh
01:48.42kremonteCair is a liar
01:48.48Tek|storeour alchy's not even cold yet /cry
01:49.07Guillotinecair: but you will be...
01:49.30Cairnope, I don't get drunk
01:49.40CairAce folks, keep your damn mouths SHUT! :p
01:49.44Guillotinewell you need to get drunk! how else am I going to get op status?
01:49.48Guillotinei mean... itll make you feel better
01:49.49Tek|storeI'm aimin for a good buzz all night ^^
01:50.09Cairthat's what I do Tekkub ... just get a sweet little buzz and ride it all night long
01:50.14Cairerrrrr
01:50.22Tekkubyup
01:50.44Tekkubgot wine Mike's lemonade and Smearnoff Eis
01:51.07Tekkubhaha
01:51.21Tekkubcat just got his head stuck in the wine bottle-sized bag
01:51.27CairLOL
01:51.28Tekkubhe's toopid
01:51.51Cairobviously I'm the only one in it
01:51.56Cairthat's okay though
01:52.01CairI'm just as glad
01:52.02Tekkubhey I'm a clasy drunk! :P
01:52.06BeladonaI am peering over, but trying to resist the urge
01:52.21Cairwhen I'm in the gutter, I prefer it to be deliberate instead of accidental
01:52.33Cairwhich that was
01:52.33Beladonathat and I am still trying to read one hell of a long text
01:52.40Guillotinecair, whats the admin password?
01:52.40CairBela, SHUT IT
01:52.45Beladonahehe
01:52.50BeladonaI didn't say anything
01:52.52CairGuillotine: okay, will tlel you
01:52.54Cairtell
01:52.54kremontehahahahahaha
01:52.59Guillotineomg! shes drunk :D
01:53.07kremonteno
01:53.14kremontedrunk is when she just says it in the channel
01:53.31Guillotineand trusting me is any better?
01:53.36CairGuillotine ... login is: notfuckinglikely, password is: inyourfuckingdreams
01:53.39*** kick/#WoWI-lounge [Guillotine!n=Beladona@115-60.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] by Beladona (the password is you suck)
01:53.39*** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57)
01:53.46CairGuillotine ... login is: notfuckinglikely, password is: inyourfuckingdreams
01:53.46AnduinLotharmmm, i crashed it again, doing the same thing..
01:53.50Guillotinedang. guess ehir not quite runk yet
01:53.53Guillotinetheir*
01:53.54Guillotinedrunk*
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01:54.01TekkubYOU ARE HAHAHAHAH!
01:54.05Guillotineits PEDRO PENGUIN!
01:54.09Cairhi pedropenguin
01:54.13Guillotine<(''<)
01:54.19pedropenguinhey guys
01:54.19Guillotine(>'')>
01:54.44MentalPowerpedropenguin: don't listen to them, they're drunk :)
01:54.59TekkubI'm not as think as you drunk I am
01:55.02pedropenguini wouldnt doubt it. ive spent enough time on irc
01:55.07pedropenguin:P
01:55.20Cair,___,
01:55.20Cair<PROTECTED>
01:55.20Cair<PROTECTED>
01:55.20Cair<PROTECTED>
01:55.20Cair<PROTECTED>
01:55.35TekkubTHEIF!!!!
01:55.37Guillotinehey! you always yell at ME when I do ASCII art! why can you do it?!?!?
01:55.41Tekkuboh wait I stole it too
01:55.47CairI told you I loved it Tekkub!
01:55.58Cairbecause that one is teeny tiny omg cute!
01:55.58Guillotine~o rly?
01:55.59purlACTION slaps guillotine several times across the face before kidney punching them and pulling out a shotgun to blow their brains out: "Ya rly!"
01:56.05Guillotinelol
01:56.11pedropenguinim tryin to make a macro to cast the appropriate rank of blessing of might on my target. anyone know what lvl you have to be to receive each rank? is it the same lvl you can learn the skill?
01:56.15TekkubI'll stick with my other siggie theft:  "Tauren Druids = Furries, YIFF YIFF YIFF!"
01:56.29Beladonanice
01:56.32Codayuspedropenguin: no to both questions
01:56.41Tekkublevel is within 10 of the level you learn it
01:56.42MentalPowerI think its 10 levels below the level of the buff
01:56.47AnduinLotharanyone wanna confirm a bug that crashes wow?
01:56.53Codayusthat sounds right
01:57.05pedropenguinhmm...so tens levels less than what you learn it at...that may be right
01:57.14Tekkubgod we're pathetic...
01:57.23AnduinLotharlooks like if u use func = CancelTrackingBuff in a DropDown menu wow dies when u click on it
01:57.25Tekkubhe's hogging the anniv gift install disc
01:57.28pedropenguincan i get a /cry
01:57.46MentalPowerCastOptions has that functionality perhaps you should checkout its code
01:58.47pedropenguinahh thanks mentalpower
01:58.56MentalPowernp
01:59.44AnduinLotharO.o why did i no know this site existed: func = CancelTrackingBuff
01:59.48AnduinLotharer
01:59.52AnduinLotharhttp://www.battle.net/mod/
02:00.35KolthWow.
02:00.42KolthI am in the same boat as you.
02:00.49AnduinLotharya man...
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02:03.25pedropenguinnot that 30 silver is that much, but i lent it to a guildie and he literally went into the tavern and used it on alcohol
02:03.28AnduinLothari'm gonna have to try some of those ums
02:03.30GuillotineMental, do you live in Miami Flordia?
02:03.58Tekkubcheap Faire beer FTW!
02:04.09Guillotinethe faire is up?
02:04.26Tekkubno... you don't cram an alt full of it when it in?
02:04.36Guillotineooo! i can make my UnitSobrietyLevel(unitid) addon now!
02:04.59Guillotinei just needed to wait until I could get lots and lots of cheap beer...
02:05.01MentalPowerGuillotine: nop, San Juan, Puerto Rico
02:05.17MentalPowerits just that the POP for my internet conection is in miami
02:05.19TekkubI can give you a ton on Illidan horde as I'll never play there again
02:06.03pedropenguina sobriety addon would be sweet
02:07.28AnduinLotharwhat's an "Aeon of Strife-style" map?
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02:08.01futrtrublany element type can be a parent yes? ie a texture
02:08.07AnduinLotharhey tem, i crashed wow, can u verify?
02:08.52Guillotinefutrtrubl: yes
02:09.22futrtrublthanks Guillotine
02:09.27futrtrubloops
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02:11.00Legorolfutrtrubl, texture can't be a parent
02:11.16Legorolnot in XML at least, the <Frames> tag is not valid for a texture
02:11.21ToastTheifalright guys
02:11.31Legoroli don't know what happensi fyou try to use frame:SetParent(sometexture)
02:11.33ToastTheifit's time to start my twinked out warr/rouge
02:11.57ToastTheifwell, first I have to decided what to make
02:12.23Temhmm?
02:12.47ToastTheifany suggestions on what would be better for lvl 10-19 BGs?
02:12.59Temnothing
02:13.04Temlevel to 60 then worry about pvp
02:13.09Temnoob
02:13.26AnduinLotharhey tem, go throw func = CancelTrackingBuff into a DropDown menu. wow dies when u click on it
02:13.28ToastTheifI have 2 60s...
02:13.57TemAnduinLothar: I'm scared of dropdowns
02:14.02TemI make my own
02:14.37AnduinLotharya, the blizz ones are pretty evil if u dont know what ur doing
02:14.47ToastTheifso, warr or rogue?
02:14.59AnduinLotharit took me writing a wrapper/replacement for them to figure out how to use them properlly
02:16.37ToastTheifI was thinking either Tauren or Gnome warr..
02:17.43ToastTheifThottbot.com seems to be down
02:18.49KolthThief: Yes.
02:20.28AnduinLotharomg... something is seriously fubar... It took me so long to log in that when it finally gave me control i was already afk... and every time i reload it discos me after liek 4 min
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02:22.02Malivil*wave*
02:22.30Cairhi Malivil
02:22.36MalivilWhat's up?
02:23.12MalivilHmm... I think i'm gonna go play some Call of Duty 2...
02:23.23Malivil*afk*
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02:30.23Depheriosconfused?
02:31.53Cairheh
02:32.01Osagasummmh
02:32.02Osagasu?
02:37.43kremontei'm saaaaad
02:37.51kremonteand happy at the same time
02:40.32Osagasulittle emo kid
02:40.33Osagasuout
02:40.37OsagasuOUT I SAY!
02:41.50kremontethey removed my cliff walking
02:42.03kremonteso i'm dancing on top of orgrimmar right now
02:42.12zeegHere: Public beta test has begun for the WoW Guru Patcher, more information can be found here: http://www.wowguru.com/wgp/
02:43.09futrtrublwhat happened to the last one?
02:44.12futrtrublnm
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02:51.42kremontelol oops
02:51.52Cairspoo lol
02:51.59kremonteWoW + ffxi + windvd + winamp = overheat
02:52.24Cairtaehrevo = pmaniw + dvdniw + ixff + WoW
02:52.29kremonteCair
02:52.34Cairkremonte:
02:52.41kremonteyou're funny
02:52.48Cairwhy, thank you!
02:52.58Cair;)
02:53.00kremonteyou're very welcome, misses.
02:53.10kremontemiss?
02:53.11Cair*giggles*
02:53.12Temzeeg: I realize this isn't top priority, but a few things I notice immediatly about the patcher
02:53.20Temthe desktop icon is ugly as hell
02:53.29Temit didn't ask me to put one there
02:54.41TemThe addon management doesn't respond to mousewheel
02:54.59Temadd a search to that
02:55.06Temcould be as simple as a name filter
02:55.21kremonteTem, have you broken it yet?
02:55.28TemAlmost
02:55.39Temit doesn't appear to be pulling info from wowi at all
02:56.24kremonteseriously, give this guy anything and he'll find out what's wrong with it
02:56.43futrtrublI get a 404 error clicking on the download link
02:56.57Temit isn't detecting which addons I have installed
02:57.19Temclicks on links don't use the default browser
02:57.23Temit went directly to IE
02:57.32Temwhich is almost enough for me to dump it
02:57.39futrtrublthat's because it's .net it only uses IE
02:58.01Temit should be fairly simple to launch the default browser instead of IE
02:58.28Temand if it isn't then .net might have been a bad choise
02:58.28futrtrublnot on any .net proggy I've come across
02:58.32Temchoice*
02:58.55TemI'm going to guess it was written in C#
02:59.04TemI know nothing about C#
02:59.04futrtrublC.net ;']
02:59.13TemC++ .net?
02:59.21kremontepython .net?
02:59.31futrtrubllua.net
02:59.48TemI've only tinkered with it once, but I really don't think it is impossible (or even difficult) to launch the default browser instead of IE
03:00.11futrtrublbut of course VB would have been a better language since it's more accessible
03:00.36TemI hope you are just saying that because of the recent "Why Lua?" thread
03:00.42futrtrubljust in case it's needed... ;']
03:00.43kremontey lua?
03:00.52zeegill get the mouse wheel fixed, and icon changed
03:00.53zeegwowi isnt there yet
03:00.58Temoh
03:01.10TemI just assumed it was since it was checked on the download page
03:01.10kremontedo everything else he said too! ;p
03:01.13zeegi cant add a search or really "add" anything, til a new version is made
03:01.24kremontemake a new one! omgomgogmg
03:01.26Temthe search is just a thought
03:01.31zeegya it's c#
03:01.36Temit doesn't even need to be complex
03:01.42zeegya i have some ideas for the next version, which someone else will be doing instead of this programmer
03:01.43Temjust a simple filter by name would be enough
03:01.46zeegya
03:02.03Temis it supposed to know which addons I have installed?
03:02.05Guillotinehaha. just freaked this guy out on WoW. I was buying his mount for him (I get discount for being Knight) and when he gave me the 800g I quit the group and started casting hearthstone
03:02.10Tembecause it isn't detecting them atm
03:02.15zeegTem, only if they're installed via patcher or wgp:// links
03:02.27zeegas "Mods" aren't just one <directory> so it cant just guess at things :)
03:02.36futrtrublGuillotine, you are mean
03:02.37TemI understand that
03:02.47zeegso no, it can only detect mods which are installed with those methods
03:03.08Temzeeg: what about mods with the Update.xml stuff in them?
03:03.09zeegand it currently doesnt show mods which aren't in the list (even if they're installed w/ those methods) in the addon management.. will be changed next version
03:03.18zeegUpdateUI was the old stuff, no longer in use :|
03:03.23zeegits now Interface/Mod Name.xml
03:03.51Temoh
03:03.52zeeghttp://www.wowguru.com/wgp/data.xml
03:03.52Temseems like the old system would be 'better' in this case
03:04.03Temas it would allow you to distrubute mods with that already there
03:04.12zeegnah the new xml schema is a lot better
03:04.21zeegthe Update.xml worked in a similar, but not as optimal, way
03:04.27zeeg*UpdateUI.xml
03:04.35Temcool
03:04.38zeeganyways
03:04.39zeegbasically
03:04.44zeegi have a big fat c# book
03:04.48zeegand ill probably be doing revisions to the program
03:05.01zeegas doing it myself isnt going to cost me 5 grand for a small application..
03:05.13kremonteGuillotine, after just getting back, i think you're a meanie
03:05.27Temnow the next project for all the sites is having their downloads on a separate server from the site interface
03:05.37Temso that on patch days when the sites are all nuked
03:05.40Temwe can still download
03:06.20zeegTem, ours wont be nuked ever again :P
03:06.28kremonte:O
03:06.30zeegas soon as i get the stuff moved over
03:06.37kremonte*bombs wowguru*
03:06.54kremonte*fixes it*
03:08.07Temzeeg: no offence to you as this isn't something you can directly help, nearly none of the mods I use are hosted at wowguru
03:08.46futrtrubl~emulate kremonte
03:08.47purlI'm stiring up trouble like usual.
03:08.58zeegTem, then host them :P
03:09.04kremonte:(
03:09.12zeeg~emulate zeeg
03:09.13kremonte~trout futrtrubl
03:09.15purlACTION slaps futrtrubl around a bit with a large trout!
03:09.18zeegO.o
03:09.22Temzeeg: they aren't my addons
03:09.26zeegoh
03:09.31zeeg"mods I use", sorry tired
03:09.36TemI understand
03:09.46Temanyway... the patcher looks promising
03:09.50zeegthe new version I want to be able to handle multiple download urls per version
03:09.59zeegso say we get all sites onboard, i want it to be able to go down a list :)
03:10.03TemIt would be nice if it could be smarter about which mods you have installed
03:10.12zeegTem, no way to really do that that I could come up with
03:10.18TemI have a way
03:10.24Nat|AFK_~kill kermonte
03:10.25purlACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudophoton gun at kermonte
03:10.27Guillotinekremonte: ty :)
03:10.28TemScan for toc files
03:10.30futrtrubl~emulate zeeg
03:10.31purlI have a big fat c# book, and I'm not affraid to use it.
03:10.43Temyou can't guarantee a version with a toc but you can see that the mod is there
03:10.45kremontekermonte?
03:10.47kremontewho is kermonte
03:10.55Nat|AFK_bah leave me alone i tired
03:10.56futrtrubl~who is kremonte
03:10.58purlfutrtrubl: what are you talking about?
03:11.02Nat|AFK_i workin on a nice 15+ hr shift
03:11.05kremonte~who is futrtrubl
03:11.07purlkremonte: I think you lost me on that one
03:11.09Cairpurl, kremonte?
03:11.10purlwell, kremonte is lazy
03:11.10zeeglol
03:11.14kremonteomg!
03:11.15Tem~emulate stewie
03:11.17purlHa ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening.
03:11.18kremonteyou're all so mean!
03:11.19Cairpulr, futrtrubl?
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03:11.34zeegTem, but the toc's dont always reflect what the mod is,s pecifically compilations
03:11.34Cairpurl, Cairenn?
03:11.36purlrumour has it, cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface.com, also EQInterface, EQ2Interface and VGInterface
03:11.46kremontewatch this laziness
03:11.47Cair~emulate Cairenn
03:11.48purlACTION purrs!
03:11.48kremontepurl cairenn
03:11.49purlcairenn is probably one of the administrators of WoWInterface.com, also EQInterface, EQ2Interface and VGInterface
03:11.49Nat|AFK_only thing keepin me sain is SoD...well then again who said i am sane in the first place
03:11.52Temzeeg: and that's why compilations are evil
03:11.57kremontesee, no comma or question mark! kek
03:12.06MentalPower~botsnack
03:12.06purlaw, gee, MentalPower
03:12.06zeegTem, but we still have to support them :)
03:12.13Temno you don't
03:12.16zeegthe XML schema is more or less norganna's doing :P
03:12.21futrtrubl~emulate zeeg
03:12.25purlI have a big fat c# book, and I'm not affraid to use it.
03:12.25MentalPower~botsnack
03:12.25purl:), MentalPower
03:12.33zeegcept i added in the <addons> part
03:12.42MentalPowerpurl, MentalPower
03:12.43purl[mentalpower] playing WoW
03:12.43kremonteMentalPower, you're making purl fat
03:12.46Temany two bit hack can make "myUb3rCompilation" and host it somewhere
03:12.58MentalPower~emulate MentalPower
03:12.59purlACTION is eating pizza with chocolate milk
03:13.01kremontelol
03:13.08zeegbut some compilations require editing mods to get them to function with each other, thus the reason they have to stay seperate
03:13.46kremonteomg zeeg,you're a pally?
03:13.57MentalPowerok last one for purl
03:14.01MentalPower~botsnack
03:14.01purlMentalPower: thanks
03:14.07kremontepurl is fat
03:14.18TemThe only ones that have any validity to me are the ones that are the heavy modding of the addons and inclusion of extra art
03:14.20futrtrublpurl, you are fat
03:14.21purlfutrtrubl: what are you talking about?
03:14.24MentalPowerpurl, purl
03:14.25purlrumour has it, purl is the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and jbot, or at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/, or dashingly handsome
03:14.25kremontelol
03:14.41TemI'd never use 'em, but that takes a bit of work
03:15.44zeeglol
03:15.46zeegkremonte, i dont play tho
03:16.13futrtrublpurl, you're fat
03:16.15purlNo I'm not! I'm just big boned.
03:16.15kremontebut, anyone who has a pally must die
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03:17.42Cairhey cladhaire!
03:17.46Beladonahiya
03:17.46cladhaireHeyas =)
03:17.57Beladonawe need someone to spice up the channel
03:18.01Beladonaoh, that might do it....
03:18.10cladhaire... everywhere
03:18.30Depherioshe said spice UP THE channel
03:18.32Depheriosnot SPICE CHANNEL
03:18.50cladhaire*shrug*
03:18.53cladhairethere's a difference?
03:18.58Depherios... guess not
03:19.19MentalPowerpurl, cookie
03:19.34BO|Razagyou are 2 guys arent ya?
03:19.38cladhaireNo.
03:19.40Tempurl: give me a cookie
03:19.42purlACTION gives tem a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up.
03:19.42cladhaire<-- Male
03:19.47Cair<-- female
03:19.48cladhairefemale.
03:19.50BO|Razagthats what they always say :P
03:19.58cladhaireBut.. my boyfriend may sign on later
03:19.59cladhairelol
03:20.08Tem><
03:20.22TemAnd that's a quote!
03:20.29kremontewahhhhhhhh
03:20.36kremontei go away for 2 minutes and this is what you start?!
03:20.50Tempurl, no emulate cair is <action> purrs. || purrs, 3some!
03:20.51purlokay, Tem
03:21.03kremonte~emulate Cair
03:21.04purlACTION purrs.
03:21.04Tempurl, no emulate cair is <action> purrs. ||<action> purrs, 3some!
03:21.06purlTem: okay
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03:21.12Tem~emulate cair
03:21.13purlACTION purrs.
03:21.18kremonte~emulate Cair
03:21.19purlACTION purrs.
03:21.22kremontefucker.
03:21.23Tem~emulate cair
03:21.25purlACTION purrs, 3some!
03:21.53Beladona~fish
03:21.54purlwell, fish is FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered?, or ...
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03:22.05Dewin~sta
03:22.08Dewin~stab
03:22.10purlACTION stabs dewin
03:22.12Dewinbummer, that one doesn't work
03:22.20Dewinomg hi, i guess
03:22.31kremontepurl, no, emulate cairenn is "<reply> see emulate cair"
03:22.32purlkremonte: okay
03:22.32Beladona~drink
03:22.37kremonteemulate cairenn
03:22.43Beladona!
03:22.48kremonteoops
03:22.49kremonte~emulate cairenn
03:22.50purlfrom memory, emulate cairenn is "<reply> see emulate cair"
03:22.52Beladonayou forgot the squiggly
03:22.57kremonteoops
03:23.05kremontehow do i unbreak it :D
03:23.05Beladona~cow
03:23.07purlI am a cow, hear me moo. I eat grass and weigh twice as much as you.
03:23.07Dewini thought you guys did dev things in the channel
03:23.16Beladonawe do
03:23.19TemDewin: yeah mostlky
03:23.21Beladonabut this is Friday night
03:23.27kremonteoooh woops
03:23.29Beladonahence the alcohol and partying begins
03:23.31kremontepurl, no, emulate cairenn is <reply> see emulate cair
03:23.33purlokay, kremonte
03:23.37kremonte~emulate cairenn
03:23.39purlACTION purrs.
03:23.40BO|Razagsake you guys and girls talk gibberish... your on crack?
03:23.43kremontethere we go!
03:24.28Tem~emulate cair
03:24.29purl[emulate cair] <actions> purrs, 3some!
03:24.39kremonte!
03:24.44kremonte~literal emulate cair
03:24.45purl"emulate cair" is "<action> purrs. || <actions> purrs, 3some! || <action> frenches $who."
03:24.48cladhaireSo how is everyone doing tonight?
03:24.59Cairexcuse me?!
03:25.12cladhaireCair is not a slut
03:25.19Cairpurl, no, emulate cair is <action> purrs
03:25.20purlCair: okay
03:25.20cladhaireshe doesn't go around frenching anyone who asks.
03:25.20Tem~emulate cair
03:25.22purlACTION purrs
03:25.41Nat|AFK_cair... what ya want me to play with?
03:25.42Dewinlalala
03:25.56kremonte~no, emulate cair is <action purrs. || <action> purrs, 3some! || <action> frenches $who
03:26.00Cairahh, there's the name I was expecting
03:26.04*** kick/#wowi-lounge [kremonte!n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] by Cair (Cair)
03:26.04*** join/#wowi-lounge kremonte (n=help@ool-18bba44d.dyn.optonline.net)
03:26.11kremonte:)
03:26.16kremonte~literal emulate cair
03:26.17purl"emulate cair" is "<action> purrs. || <action> purrs, 3some! || <action> frenches $who."
03:26.19Cairkrem ... fuck off
03:26.23kremontewhy :)
03:26.30Cairplease and thank you very kindly
03:26.34Cairpurl, no, emulate cair is <action> purrs
03:26.36purlCair: okay
03:26.43kremontehey, me didnt start it
03:26.50zeeglol
03:27.13kremonte[ 10:21 ] [Tem] purl, no emulate cair is <action> purrs. ||<action> purrs, 3some!
03:27.13Nat|AFK_ya but you were punished for it
03:27.35kremontewatch me do a purl, no, cair is a bitch :P
03:27.44tragywydd~stab
03:27.45purlACTION stabs tragywydd
03:28.03Nat|AFK_~stab kremonte
03:28.04purlACTION runs at kremonte with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut.
03:28.08cladhaire~laz tragywydd
03:28.11kremonte~lart Nat|AFK_
03:28.15kremontehttp://forums.elitistjerks.com/uploads/skinned.jpg
03:28.16kremontew00t
03:28.29Nat|AFK_Forbidden
03:28.33Temme too
03:28.38kremontehttp://forums.elitistjerks.com/index.php?showtopic=4788
03:28.40kremontescroll down
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03:30.14Tem~fix kremonte
03:30.16purlACTION takes kremonte to the vet for a "special" visit.
03:30.38Depherios.... skinless... tauren
03:30.38kremontehttp://home.comcast.net/~jerseymonkey/Owned.gif
03:30.47kremontehave i annoyed everyone yet? good.
03:32.27Nat|AFK_ack what a bunch of dorks http://forums.elitistjerks.com/uploads/pennflex.jpg
03:33.06Nat|AFK_kremonte what one in that screenshot is you ?
03:33.22krem`afk(i'm not that old lol)
03:33.27krem`afk(<-- really young)
03:33.35tragywyddhow young?
03:33.38Nat|AFK_12
03:33.40krem`afk(wasn't it already obvious?)
03:33.41krem`afk(14)
03:33.41tragywyddlol
03:33.44tragywyddwow
03:33.45tragywyddx young x
03:33.50Nat|AFK_i was close
03:33.55kergothnow i feel old
03:34.01krem`afk(haha you're old)
03:34.11Nat|AFK_yer about as old as my sister wife is
03:34.36tragywyddomg, you were born in 1991 weren't you
03:34.55tragywydd*dies*
03:35.39Beladona~goat
03:35.40purlbilly goat gates drinks beer and grins..you win
03:35.56tragywydd~death
03:35.57purlit has been said that death is what happens when you don't /msg, or the opposite of life
03:36.11tragywydd~shpadoinkle
03:36.13Beladona~love
03:36.14purlIf you love <insert item> so much, why don't you marry it
03:36.20Beladonalol
03:36.21cladhaire~love monkeys
03:36.22purlIf you love monkeys so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
03:36.26kergothhaha
03:36.29kergoth~botsnack
03:36.29purlaw, gee, kergoth
03:36.36BeladonaI like the (ooooh) at the end
03:36.38kergothi love the "oooooh" part
03:36.39kergothyeah :)
03:36.43cladhaireits the best part
03:36.49Depherioslol
03:36.56Beladona~monkey
03:36.57purlThis problem, like many others in the computer industry, can be solved by the application of monkeys.
03:37.08tragywydd~yourmom
03:37.12purlhmm... yourmom is a man
03:37.12tragywydddamn
03:37.15DepheriosPurl = best bot ever
03:37.43Beladona~cow
03:37.45purlI am a cow, hear me moo. I eat grass and weigh twice as much as you.
03:37.48zeeganyone know a website with a bunch of *good* logic puzzles?
03:37.53Beladona~fish
03:37.54purlsomebody said fish was FISHFISHFISH! DO THE FISH DANCE! "Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate, instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, why not read some docs, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered?, or ...
03:37.57zeegi love the ones in this pennypress puzzle mag
03:38.08dirty_hillbily~love dildo
03:38.10purlIf you love dildo so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
03:38.17tragywydd~love cock
03:38.18purlIf you love cock so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)
03:38.18dirty_hillbilyi think i might
03:38.34cladhaireoh wow..
03:38.36cladhairelol
03:38.44zeegthat bot has become extremely gay over the past few day s:|
03:38.45kergothi think the maturity level just fell into the basemenet
03:38.51kergothbasement, too
03:39.08tragywyddwell, i'm not as young as krem, but maybe not old enough for ya'll =p
03:39.17dirty_hillbily</=- at hour 16 at work... i am allowed to drop in maturity
03:39.26Depherioslol
03:39.35kergothdear god man, get the hell out of there
03:39.39dirty_hillbilycan't
03:39.46dirty_hillbilyhave to get shit done
03:39.50dirty_hillbilyerr
03:39.51kergoththen sneak a bottle of rum in
03:39.52dirty_hillbilyget poop done
03:40.02dirty_hillbilythen i wont be able to drive home
03:40.18kergothi want a hammock in my cubicle at a company
03:40.20kergoththatd be sweet
03:40.25dirty_hillbilylol
03:40.31Depherioslol
03:40.44DepheriosI had a couch in the one I had when I worked for city hall
03:40.52Beladona~car
03:40.54purlwell, car is a very beautifull piece of craft
03:40.59Beladona~boat
03:41.02kergoth~foo
03:41.03purlbar
03:41.06kergothyay
03:41.09dirty_hillbilyi want a 3' pink haired dwarf female in my cubical one with buck teeth and a flat head (good for opening beer bottles and such)
03:41.10Beladonanothing for boat?
03:41.25Beladona~dwarf
03:41.27purlsomebody said dwarf was Dale Scheetz.
03:41.32dirty_hillbily~boat people
03:41.37*** topic/#WoWI-lounge by Cair -> WoWI-Lounge. Don't spam the damn bot. No hassling Slouken about work. Get along or Get out. Beyond that, kick back, relax, have fun.
03:41.42kergothsaw that coming
03:42.23dirty_hillbilyi think i left it in the break room next to the coffee maker
03:42.28dirty_hillbilyi hope no  one drank it
03:42.34dirty_hillbily*evil grin*
03:43.34dirty_hillbilyhttp://www.comeallyefaithful.co.uk/
03:43.35Cairkergoth: saw what coming?
03:44.01kergoththe topic change
03:44.10tragywyddwow
03:44.13tragywyddnice site
03:44.45Beladonaawwn that a couple times
03:45.09Beladonathere is a site with snippets of videos for commercials that never made it to television
03:45.13Cairyeah, well, big surprise when people decide to take things over the line
03:45.14Beladonathat is one of them
03:45.27tragywydddoesn't belladonna have two ll's and two n's?
03:45.34Beladonadepends
03:45.57tragywyddon?
03:46.07Beladonahow I felt like spelling it
03:46.09cladhaireWhether Beladona is the one speling it or not =)
03:46.15Beladona:-P
03:46.18tragywyddjust checking =p
03:46.35dirty_hillbilythis one is good too http://www.abum.com/show/909/1927939153.wmv
03:47.00Beladonahttp://www.plantamed.com.br/ESP/Atropa_belladona.htm
03:47.46tragywyddi know what belladonna is =)
03:48.12tragywyddalthough i don't read portuguese very well, lol
03:48.27dirty_hillbilyhttp://www.kenwood.it/home.php?section=fun&page=swf_videoactive_projector_762_425&file=santaclaus&postcard=1
03:49.08Beladonamy point was mainly that it is spelled both ways
03:49.26tragywyddfair
03:53.05tragywyddwow, is your paper heart bleeding, Cair?
03:53.12Beladonathat was the translation
03:53.16Beladonaam I right?
03:53.36tragywyddof?
03:53.42Beladonathat link I posted
03:54.05Beladonaoh wait
03:54.06dirty_hillbilyThis is Corrosion64 kbpsFeaturing such artists as Ministry, Depeche Mode, Noise Unit, Bauhaus, New Order, Pop Will It Itself, and much much more of what you want to hear!
03:54.10dirty_hillbilyoops
03:54.15dirty_hillbilywrong copy paste
03:54.16Beladonawas thinking of another link that I didn't post yet
03:54.18Beladonanm
03:54.21tragywyddlol
03:54.27OsagasuLMAO
03:55.42dirty_hillbilyiTunes   http://www.thisiscorrosion.com/port9000.pls
03:55.42kergothUncle Buck is on! yay
03:55.44kergothi love this movie
03:56.48tragywyddcladh and I are watching charmed
03:57.20dirty_hillbilytogether?
03:57.41tragywyddyes
03:57.57Beladonabbs
03:57.58dirty_hillbilykinky
03:58.04tragywyddthat's how we do
03:58.21dirty_hillbilyhawt
04:00.30dirty_hillbilyhummmm.... i wish i had my CD's here... then i wouldn't be so board i miss scooter
04:00.31dirty_hillbilyhttp://www.scootertechno.com/
04:00.53dirty_hillbilyya i here
04:01.04dirty_hillbilyalthough i not registered so i can't im
04:01.13Cairyou can if you go back to your regular name
04:01.14kergothscooter is good stuff
04:01.22Cairwhich is registered, is it not?
04:01.29Natasemna
04:01.37Natasemi lazy
04:01.41Natasemlol :P
04:01.47tragywyddwb krem
04:01.49Cair<PROTECTED>
04:01.52kremonteno ways
04:03.01kergothgods john candy is hilarious
04:03.03kergothtoo bad he died :(
04:05.54Natasemhe died?
04:05.54Cairaye
04:06.13Natasemman i should turn on the boob tube more often i guess
04:06.31TainYeah, it was only about ten years ago.
04:06.56Natasemahh 10 years ago i was somewhere in the jungles of south america
04:07.30TainThe tired, it has attacked me.
04:07.33Cairhey Tain
04:07.44TainHi Cair. :)
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04:17.34Cairwow, where did everyone go?
04:18.31TainI guess it was me.
04:18.39TainI should have showered today. :/
04:25.24Kaeltenhi guys
04:25.32Cairhey Kael
04:25.36TainHi Kael
04:26.09Cairthe party seems to have died for the moment, probably cause I grumped at a few people that were dropping the maturity level a little too far
04:26.22Kaeltenlol
04:27.07Cairdid you see the wow video earlier today?
04:27.13Kaeltenhmm?
04:27.37Cairif you have to ask, no you didn't:  http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi
04:27.55Depherioslol
04:28.13Depheriosoh yeah, that'll raise the maturity level
04:28.54Cairhey, dropping the level a bit is okay,  playing around in the gutter is okay ... but there *is* a limit ...
04:30.16Depherioslol
04:35.04TainYeah there's the gutter, and then there's the sub sewer levels.
04:38.29Kaeltenthats funny, but scary
04:38.36Kaeltenit was well done, which made it all the wosre
04:38.38Kaeltenworse
04:38.41CairI think it's hilarious
04:38.49KaeltenI do too.
04:39.07Kaeltenbut its still a little scary
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04:42.00TainYeah there's a lot of talent that went into making that.
04:43.50Tekkubwait I missed gutterplay?
04:44.02Tekkub<-- approching buzz-state
04:44.26Tekkubon a side note, Commedians of Comedy is a great show
04:44.40Tekkubwith twe sexxy beardyheads nonetheless
04:52.17StylpeYay, insomnia sucks
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04:52.34Stylpewops
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04:53.30Nomad_WandererWow.. Crowded today :) Howdy..
04:54.10Cairhey Nomad_Wanderer :)
04:54.31Nomad_WandererThink  imight play some civ 4 tonight instead of wow ;)
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05:14.48Nomad_WandererCair No Pants Tricks tonight? :p
05:14.58Natasemhttp://fatratgodwarrior.ytmnd.com/
05:15.41Nomad_WandererCan I have 4 minutes of my life back please :(
05:16.10CairNomad_Wanderer: http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi
05:17.22Temlater everyone...
05:17.26Temearly start for me tommorow
05:18.12Nomad_WandererI agree. Porn has been a motivator for technology improvements throughout history. :)
05:20.17Cairnight Tem
05:20.49Nomad_WandererI give it a 7. It's funny, but hard to dance to.
05:21.15Kaeltenhmm test server got updated again
05:21.36Nomad_WandererDo you think the christmas content is somehow tied to 1.9?
05:21.51Kaeltenprobably
05:22.10Nomad_WandererThat would mean.. Better get 1.9 up to snuff quickly.. more patches now :)
05:24.15Kaeltenyep I won't be suprised if it hits this patch
05:24.17Kaeltenerr this week
05:27.04Nomad_Wanderer<PROTECTED>
05:39.36NatasemYAY I GET TO GO HOME WEEEEEEE!!!!!ONEONEONE11111
05:39.48Natasemsee ya'll monday
05:40.09Cairnight Natasem :)
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05:40.32ssecehey I have a question reguarding UI programming
05:40.36Natasemhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6072878
05:40.52Natasemthere is no help here ssece, everyone is drunk
05:40.55Natasemerr i mean
05:40.58Natasemdrinking tea
05:41.05Natasem:P
05:41.29ssececan I write a UI function and have it fire every time my player receives damage? -- basically can I write it so that it can hook into the game and have the game fire -- or do all UI functions have to be called via the user clicking mouse or typing a key?
05:41.54Nomad_WandererIt depends on what you want to do
05:42.24Kaeltenyou can make a function that hooks the change of your players hp
05:42.44sseceI want to write an addon that, when enabled, will cast ice block on my mage if he receives damage
05:43.06sseceI want to write an addon that will cast "Will of the forsaken" the instant my rogue is feared
05:43.16Kaeltencasting the block actually requires a keypress
05:43.18ssecethat sort of thing -- to do that I'd need to have the game fire the function
05:43.36sseceI can do it via function/macro via "cast <spell name>" or something simular to that effect
05:43.38KolthDoes anyone here use Adlibber?
05:44.04Kaeltenstill have to have a keypress ssece
05:45.03sseceoh in the sence of activating my macro/function that performs that "cast <spell name>" macro?
05:45.09sseceis there any way around that requirement?
05:45.18Nomad_Wanderernot really no.
05:45.30Kolthssece: Mouse-buttons or keyboard keys.
05:45.48Nomad_WandererIf you want a big button to appear under your mouse when you get damage, and that button casts ice block when you click it, you can do that.
05:47.24sseceWhat about writing a function that loops for ever -- have it check to see if my current HP is what it was last time it checked -- if it is cast my spell, if not sleep for 500 milliseconds and then continue checking" -- and have the user only need to click it once to turn it on -- and they wont have to click to turn it on again since it never stops running -- would that sort of thing work?
05:47.41Nomad_Wandererno.
05:48.04Nomad_WandererYou can't get the interaction with the game you are looking for via the scripting engine.
05:48.16Kaeltenthe game will NOT cast a spell without a keypress
05:48.19Kaeltenno if ands or buts
05:48.50Nomad_WandererI should correct my statement to say, You can't get the reduction of interaction with the game you are looking for :)
05:49.13sseceOk, to be more general, say if I wanted it to just do something, like say something in the general chat channel saying "I'm being attacked" -- the instant I get attacked --would taht be possible? have my code fire via the game without the person having to press a button
05:49.28Cairssece ...
05:49.38ssececause I know the API has commands to write to the chat channel
05:49.41Cairin simple terms
05:49.45Cairn
05:49.46Cairo
05:49.54Nomad_WandererYes. Theres a tons of addons that already do this.. If you know, then why are you asking?
05:50.22Cairit can't be done, what you are asking for is the ability to make a bot ... Blizz doesn't like bots.  This channel doesn't like bots.  Bots are bad, mmmkay?
05:50.30sseceI've never used them -- I know some work when a mage casts a sheep on someone -- but then again thats from him pressing a button
05:51.15sseceYeah sorry about that, I guess I am asking for a bot -- I was looking at it from more of an event driven programming paradign though
05:51.43Nomad_WandererYou can do it. Think of messages about low health. Haven't you seen the messages about "Malt Calls out that he has low mana".
05:52.00Nomad_WandererBut calling out that you need help is not the same as automagically casting spells :)
05:52.28sseceYeah thats a good point
05:52.35sseceI was thinking it would be really cool though if I could
05:52.50Nomad_WandererNo you wouldn't. People would put you on ignore quickly.
05:53.03CodayusA mage just rolled need on a shield.  Yay!  Pick up groups!
05:53.05ssecehave a "proection" thing that auto cast ice block  -- so that I wouldnt get ganked so easily all the time
05:53.06Nomad_WandererEverytime you took damage, youwould say something?
05:53.25sseceI'm just using that as an example
05:54.12Cairin order to perform any *action* in the game, there *must* be a keypress
05:54.39Cairbe it casting a spell, attacking a monster, or firing a skill
05:55.05sseceyeah I just saw on the wowwikki, that the "RunMacro" directive was removed.
05:55.30Gryphenyou couldnt ever cast without a keypress
05:55.53sseceI'll have to think of some new ideas to write an addon for then =)
05:55.56CodayusI quote the mage:  "I just bid on it, cause I usually don't win things.  who wanted?"
05:56.09Nomad_WandererPUG = ML.
05:56.23Nomad_WandererIts too easy to ninja stuff with two buttons.
05:56.35Nomad_WandererOh.. crap I thought I was supposed to click the dice
05:56.52Tekkubdon't forget items, item use is akeypress too
05:57.02Nomad_WandererOnly use group loot with guildies. :)
05:57.52TekkubI have a nice lil auto-roller for guild activities
05:58.04Tekkubauto-rolls greed if it's not BoP
06:03.46Cairlalala
06:03.54Cair~bored
06:03.55purlLa ... lalalala ... beer!
06:04.05Nomad_Wanderer~beer
06:04.06purlmethinks beer is ummm, ummm good!, or good for you!... not just for breakfast anymore
06:04.13Nomad_Wandererme too!
06:04.20Cair~scotch
06:04.31Tekkub~wine
06:04.32purlEmulator of the Windows 3.x and Win32 APIs.. URL: http://www.winehq.com/, or a good way of curing the aches and pains of a systems integrator, or not half as good as beer, or best served in a clean wine glass after supper, or comes in may colours and flavors
06:04.37TekkubLOL
06:04.42Nomad_Wandereroooh! Lagavulin or Laphroiag please!
06:06.03Nomad_WandererIf it's wine, I'll take a gewurtz.
06:06.34Tekkubhrm.. whta kind of wine did we get...
06:07.59TekkubMcWilliams, Shiraz, 2003
06:08.15Nomad_WandererThats not bad either
06:08.23Tekkub^^
06:08.27Cairpurl, scotch is <reply> single-malt, 18 years old or better, for those having a refined palate, a much more serious drink than beer which is drunk by pussies
06:08.29purlACTION places some ice in a glass, fills it with scotch, and hands it to is <reply> single-malt, 18 years old or better, for those having a refined palate, a much more serious drink than beer which is drunk by pussies.
06:08.44TekkubI need more Chockcherry and Rhubarb wine from my dad
06:08.44Cair*blink*
06:09.00Tekkubhe's got a nice batch of '99
06:09.05Cair~literal scotch
06:09.08Nomad_WandererWhat kind of scotch do you like Cair? Islay?
06:09.32Cair~factual scotch
06:09.43Cairdamnit, what's the command, I can't remember
06:09.45CodayusWeird, a paladin with quel'serrar - and a LOT of greens and random blues.
06:09.53Nomad_Wandererpurl, scotch?
06:09.59TekkubI need to take up winemaking
06:10.07Nomad_WandererI'm a zymurgist.
06:10.14TekkubI already know how to do it, just need the suplies
06:10.15CodayusNo other endgame loot at all...how odd.
06:10.20Nomad_WandererIt's fun.. you'd like it.
06:10.37Tekkubis it bad I know how to brew wine at 15?
06:10.48Nomad_WandererIf it was hard then yes.
06:10.55Nomad_Wanderersince it's not, then no.
06:11.05Tekkubwell my dad taught me :P
06:11.21Tekkubhell we made Dandelion wine once
06:12.31Cairpurl, no, scotch is <reply> single-malt, 18 years old or better, for those having a refined palate, a much more serious drink than beer which is drunk by pussies
06:12.32purlCair: okay
06:12.54Cair:p
06:13.06Nomad_Wandererpurl, scotch?
06:13.08purlsingle-malt, 18 years old or better, for those having a refined palate, a much more serious drink than beer which is drunk by pussies
06:13.29Nomad_WandererYou never answered my question tho :), what kind of scotch do you like?
06:13.39Cairyes I did
06:13.45Cairpurl, scotch?
06:13.46purlsingle-malt, 18 years old or better, for those having a refined palate, a much more serious drink than beer which is drunk by pussies
06:13.53Cair;)
06:14.15Nomad_Wanderer:p  Any would have been an acceptable answer.
06:14.34CairI'm not actually overly fond of the Islay's I've tried, too iodine-y
06:15.23Nomad_WandererSure.. Laphroaig is probably not your cup of tea then :)
06:15.59CairThere may be some nice Islay's, but if so, I haven't found them yet
06:16.10Nomad_WandererI like lagavulin thats not a bad one.
06:16.21Cairthat one is nice, yes
06:16.26Nomad_WandererI think it's still probably too over the top tho..
06:16.35Cairnaw, it's okay
06:16.44DepheriosLagavulin sounds like the Lagrimmar of the Alliance
06:17.30Nomad_WandererHow about Highlands? I have a nice 18 macallen here that I  think is really good.
06:17.54CairOban, Glenfiddich and Lagavulin are the 3 I've got in the liquor cabinet right now
06:18.19Cairthe youngest is a 16
06:18.40Nomad_WandererOban's not bad.. I like (don't laugh :) ) as a decent everyday scotch.
06:18.55Nomad_WandererHeh
06:18.55Cairthat's the one I got drunk on a few weeks back :p
06:19.17Nomad_WandererIf I'm a little strapped for cash, I like Bowmore...
06:19.36Cairhad a *really* bad night and decided to get drunk ... hadn't eaten or slept for over 24 hrs ... somewhere between 12-16 ounces of Oban in 1/2 hr ... I was rather fucked up :p
06:20.00Nomad_WandererYou should have been drinking bowmore then :) that's too many ounces in too little time. :)
06:20.12Cairand remember, I weigh a whopping 115 lbs
06:20.41Nomad_Wandererdefinately whopping.
06:20.46Cairyup yup
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06:23.28Cairone of my all time favourites, though, has to be the 29 year old Glenmorangie
06:23.48Nomad_Wandererhmm...N
06:23.59Nomad_Wanderernever had a 29.. had a glen morangie but not that old.
06:24.15Nomad_WandererWhere did you try that?
06:24.23Cairhehehe
06:24.36CairPrivate scotch tasting party
06:24.47Cairwe have one every year
06:25.18Nomad_Wanderer:)
06:26.01Cairmy SCA household ... when we get together every summer at Pennsic, we all bring a bottle (or two) with us, either something really nice we've had around for a while, or something new we've found that we brought with us to check out
06:26.49CairThere was actually a very interesting one a couple years ago, it needs time to age more yet, but the unusual part of it was the fact that it is made in ... New Hampshire? I think it was? ...
06:27.06Nomad_Wandererhmm.
06:27.26Nomad_WandererI thought that the only place making scotch in NA was up in Canada.
06:27.41Cairstill trying to get my hands on a bottle of the ones coming out of Nova Scotia
06:27.54Nomad_Wanderer:P thats the one
06:28.02Cairthey've only just started up though, so I expect it's gonna be a couple more years yet, at least
06:28.10Cairyeah, Cape Breton, the highlands of NS
06:28.30CairNS is *very* scottish, it's where I'm from originally
06:28.50Cairhell, look at the name ... Nova Scotia ... Nouvelle Ecosse ... New Scotland
06:29.06Nomad_Wandererddn't know that.
06:29.09CairYup
06:30.46Cairso yeah, anyway, I've tried an awful lot of scotch over the years
06:30.58Nomad_Wanderer:) not a bad thing
06:30.58Cairthere's 2 ways, and 2 ways *only* to drink it
06:31.07Cairneat, or as a rusty nail
06:31.21CairI *never* put ice in my scotch, why dilute it?!
06:31.37Nomad_WandererI like neat, but in a frosty highball
06:31.46Cairand rusty nails, well, those are made with the younger scotches
06:32.15futrtrublbah, Rum is the one
06:32.18CairI don't mind a nice blend, but I tend to prefer single-malts
06:32.29CairRum is good, for mixed drinks
06:32.33Cairditto vodka
06:32.35Cairand gin
06:32.36kergothguh
06:32.41kergothmissed out on my guild's first zg run tonight :(
06:32.42Nomad_WandererI dont ;like blends really... Run is good for mixers or when you want to say Argh!
06:32.49DephBeing a teetotally is rough
06:32.56Nomad_Wandererrun = rum
06:32.56kergotha 2h axe that adds +1% crit and +22 int dropped
06:32.56Dephteetotaler rather
06:32.56kergothand i'm a 60 shaman
06:32.58Dephtotally XD
06:33.02Cairoh ugh kergoth!
06:33.07futrtrublYou've never had Appleton 18 yeah old
06:33.16futrtrublyear*
06:33.40Cairwell, yeah, I'm sure there are some nice rums that are the same as good scotch
06:33.41AnduinLothari have that axe ker
06:33.41kergoththanks cair :\
06:33.49CairI've just never had the opportunity to try them
06:33.56AnduinLotharadded a +22 int to it on my pally
06:34.11AnduinLotharalso adds 44 att pwr
06:34.19futrtrublNow I know what to get you for Xmass Cair ;']
06:34.37Cair:)
06:34.45Nomad_Wandererwhy is the guild tag <Lazer gun Pew Pew Pew> so funny to me? I can't seem to not laugh saying the pew pew pew part.
06:34.49futrtrublbut, back to Monk
06:35.05CairI do like rum-based mixed drinks, so I'm sure I'd enjoy a *good* rum, neat
06:35.30Cairlol Nomad_Wanderer
06:36.18Cairgod, this summer past, someone brought an Islay to the tasting party, very deliberately, just to get our reactions ... it was *AWFUL*
06:36.25CairI couldn't believe how horrid this stuff was
06:36.44CairI don't even remember the name, it was that bad, I blocked the memory from my mind
06:36.45Nomad_WandererDo you remeber what label it was?
06:36.54Nomad_Wandererah.. too bad..
06:37.05CairIt was ALL iodine taste, nothing but
06:37.21CairI mean, it wasn't iodine *aftertaste*
06:37.24Cairit was just iodine
06:37.27Cairbleh
06:37.29Nomad_Wandererhehehe
06:38.36Cairand you know it had to be bad when you consider that I enjoy chewing dried kelp :p
06:38.55Nomad_Wandererew
06:39.06Cairnaw, that's yummy stuff
06:39.13Cairmmmmmmm
06:40.10Cairoooo, no fair, making me remember things I enjoy and haven't had in wayyy too long ... gotta get me some salt-water taffy!
06:41.21Nomad_WandererWell not to yourself.. :) We're having a conversation while I attack Peter from the Russian Empire
06:41.41Cairmostly to myself
06:43.10Cairand sitting here getting worried that the awning on my gazebo on my front deck is going to get torn in the high winds we're having tonight ....
06:43.28Nomad_WandererIt's lots of high winds hear in upstate NY too.
06:44.10Cairwell, I'm due north of there, right across the lake
06:44.21Nomad_WandererToronto ish?
06:44.25CairOttawa
06:44.34Cair5-ish hrs NE from TO
06:44.43Nomad_WandererI was there once.. There's something in the water. So many pretty women.
06:45.12CairI always go across at 1000 Islands, not down at Niagra
06:45.40Nomad_WandererYeah.. If I'm headed to ottoway thats the way to cross
06:46.05CairYou're the second person to say that recently, that there is something about the water in Canada that makes for the "average" woman up here "pretty"
06:46.36Cair*shrugs*
06:46.42Nomad_WandererI dunno about canada tho.. I've been to toronto many times.
06:46.51Nomad_WandererIt was ottowa where they really stood out :)
06:48.11Cairlalalalala
06:48.23Cair*twiddles her thumbs waiting for patches to download*
06:48.57Nomad_Wandererptches for what?
06:49.07Dephtest?
06:49.20Nomad_WandererThe test patch isn't that big..
06:49.34Nomad_WandererIf you havea fast connection (for porn). then youshould be fine.
06:49.34Cairno
06:49.36Cairsomething else
06:49.52Dephlol
06:50.13Dephunless the blizz updater hates your network drivers like it does mine
06:50.16Cairsorry, wasn't thinking, shouldn't have said anything
06:50.22DephI have to download patches on the laptop, and move them over the network
06:50.36Dephor they take like 3 hours for a 20 meg file XD
06:52.55Kaeltennight guys
06:53.10Kaeltengood news though, finished my update for KC_AutoRepair, will be releasing tommorow after work
06:53.13Kaelteng'night guys
06:54.17sarf|oogaGood night Kaelten
06:54.23Kaelten|Sleepingnight sarf
06:57.11Cairnight Kael
07:03.08Cairmorning sarf :)
07:03.17sarf|oogaMorning Cair :)
07:03.50Cairdidn't I just say good night to you a (very short) period of time ago?
07:03.51Nomad_WandererThere goes my Civ alarm clock.. tiem to get some sleep ;)
07:03.56Nomad_WandererSee you everyone!
07:03.58Cairnight Nomad_Wanderer
07:04.50sarf|oogaNight Nomad!
07:28.02Tekkubthat time it be....
07:28.32Cairlol, have fun ;)
07:31.29kergothTek|PassedOut: that was some quick hawtsecks.  only 30 seconds eh?
07:31.30kergoth:P
07:31.35Cairrofl
07:31.52zeegpatch is on wowguru almost always right after its avail
07:31.55Cairthey don't call him two stroke for nothing?
07:32.21Cairnot.that.patch, zeeg ;)
07:32.33zeegeven test patches are on guru :|
07:32.39zeegoh
07:32.40zeegdif game?
07:32.49Cairnot that either ... it isn't even for wow ... aye, different game
07:32.53zeeggotcha
07:34.34sarf|oogaHmm
07:34.52sarf|oogaAnyone interested in testing my shiny new UnrealSoundPack addon?
07:35.49Cairdependencies?
07:35.53sarf|oogaNone.
07:36.03sarf|oogaExcept on its father ^^
07:36.06Cairwhat does it do? what is it's purpose?
07:36.32Cairie does it matter what class/race?
07:36.40sarf|oogaIt plays the Unreal sound effects (First Blood! Rampage! Ultrakill!) at certain kill numbers
07:36.46sarf|oogaPurpose: Fun.
07:36.59sarf|oogaCategory: Silly.
07:37.06Cairheh, no I was just wondering if it was for any specific class or race or anything
07:37.08Cair:)
07:37.11sarf|oogahehe :)
07:37.18Cairsure, toss a link, I'll check it out
07:37.20sarf|oogawell, depending on the timeBetweenKills setting
07:37.31sarf|oogaMages may get more "Godlike!" than others ^^
07:37.35Cairlol
07:37.40Osagasuheh
07:37.47Osagasumages run out of mana faster though
07:37.59OsagasuI can out DPS a mage on my Priest over long periods
07:38.04Cairgimmah linkage
07:38.29DephLink, I'm interested... played too much unreal I guess
07:38.38Cair1.8 compatible, or done for test server 1.9?
07:39.02sarf|oogahttp://www.fukt.bth.se/~k/wow/stuff/UnrealSoundPack_1800_v0.01-test.zip
07:39.08CairI'm always with all the asking of questions and shit ;)
07:39.10sarf|oogaMade for 1800
07:39.13Cairk
07:39.20sarf|oogabut will work on any version methinks
07:39.23Cair404
07:39.27sarf|oogaGrnph
07:40.48sarf|oogaUp now
07:40.49sarf|oogaSorry
07:41.04Cairnope
07:41.08sarf|oogaMy system is going by its knees trying to run WoW with any other proggy such as WinSCP
07:41.26Deph404 'gain
07:41.32Cairyar
07:41.43sarf|oogaGAH
07:41.44sarf|oogahttp://www.fukt.bth.se/~k/wow/stuff/UnrealSoundPack_1800_v0.01-test.rar
07:41.47Cairit hates you sarf
07:41.49sarf|oogaI hate WinRAR
07:41.53sarf|oogaIt renames my archives
07:41.55Kolthhaha
07:41.58Caircool
07:42.01Cairgot it
07:42.19sarf|ooga:)
07:42.39sarf|oogaComing in v0.01-testv2... ability to no longer display big messages :)
07:43.01Cairgui or slash commands?
07:43.27Dephslash by the XML
07:43.32Osagasumake it so in BG you can have it more like the UT style
07:43.46Osagasufirst kill.. 2 with out dying... 5 without dying... 10 without dying...
07:44.05sarf|oogaErr
07:44.09Osagasu:P
07:44.11sarf|oogaThat's the way it is currently Osagasu
07:44.15sarf|oogaCair> No commands
07:44.16Osagasuyou said it's timed
07:44.20sarf|oogaYep
07:44.23sarf|oogaAh
07:44.29sarf|oogaYou mean no limit on time between kills?
07:44.34Osagasulike it is in UT
07:44.47Dephin UT, it's every so many kills, AND kills in a period of time
07:44.47Cairthen how do you set timebetweenkills
07:45.02Osagasu>:)
07:45.06sarf|oogaCair> not easily ^^
07:45.14Osagasupoor cair
07:45.15Cairedit the code directly?
07:45.21sarf|oogaCair: /script UnrealSoundPack_Options.timeBetweenKills = X;
07:45.28Osagasuoh
07:45.31Dephlol
07:45.32Osagasuthat's not too bad
07:45.35Cairyeah, okay
07:45.47sarf|oogaI don't write configuration code the first thing I do in my addons ^^
07:45.52sarf|oogaProlly add Khaos stuff
07:45.56Osagasumurf
07:45.59Osagasuwell, nini
07:46.00Cairdidn't know how far along on it you were :p
07:46.04Cairnight Osagasu
07:46.14sarf|oogaGood night Osagasu :)
07:46.20DephG'night
07:46.21Osagasu•Cair• "I'll be waiting for you." :3
07:46.23Osagasu;)
07:46.40Cair*blinks*
07:46.43Cairo.O
07:46.45CairO.o
07:46.48Dephlol
07:46.59sarf|oogaHmmmm
07:47.11sarf|oogaCOMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH is triggered by PvP deaths
07:47.13sarf|oogaGrr
07:47.26Deph... PvP deaths are good... right?
07:47.31DephI don't want unreal sounds for mobs XD
07:48.42Dephokay guys, what's a good free tabbed text editor? -- I've been using the one I have now for like... 5 years, and I KNOW there's a better one out there XD
07:49.02sarf|oogaWhy not, Deph?
07:49.15sarf|oogaat least for the ones that give xp ^^
07:49.19DephI just want it for BGs XD
07:49.23sarf|oogaPiffle1
07:49.25sarf|ooga*!
07:49.45DephXD
07:50.01Cairokay ... question
07:50.09Dephnow watch, as soon as I cut up my unit frames, AB will start
07:50.17sarf|oogaFound some errors
07:50.18Cairdoes it only trigger on PvP? only on mobs that give you exp? what?
07:50.29sarf|oogaIt currently triggers on... nothing.
07:50.31sarf|ooga(tada!)
07:50.34Dephlol
07:50.35Cairyeah ...
07:50.40sarf|oogaYou are watching coding at its finest!
07:50.41Cairthat's what I was wondering
07:50.44Cairlol
07:50.49sarf|oogaIt will trigger off of: any death
07:50.50Cair*laugh*
07:50.59Deph.... my death? XD
07:51.01Cairheheheh
07:51.05DephYou Die
07:51.09sarf|oogaAny hostile death :)
07:51.10DephGODLIKE
07:51.13sarf|ooga^^
07:51.22sarf|oogaThen perhaps, in a future patch: any hostile death while tagged for PvP
07:51.44Cairwell, right now, it does go off at all ;)
07:51.47Deph... so... still all the time? XD
07:51.55Cair*chuckles*
07:52.09DephPvP server = not often I'm fighting and not flagged XD
07:52.27IrielDeph: Emacs
07:52.37DephIt's tabbed? O_o
07:52.37*** join/#wowi-lounge Ktron (n=chatzill@student2a-64.unh.edu)
07:52.46Ktronhey hey hey
07:52.53Cairhey Ktron
07:53.58Gryphennot on svn sarf?
07:54.14IrielWell, define 'tabbed'
07:54.20Ktronheh, after further work, I've concluded I can't code or draw
07:54.21IrielIt supports multiple open buffers
07:54.42Cairawww, why for you say that Ktron?
07:54.59KtronI think it's as simple as I haven't gotten used ot programming... for events, if that makes any sense
07:55.07sarf|oogahttp://www.fukt.bth.se/~k/wow/stuff/UnrealSoundPack_1800_v0.02-test.zip
07:55.08Cairbesides which, you're wrong ... if *I* can do both (to the minor degree that I can) ... anyone can
07:55.12sarf|oogaGryphen> Not yet
07:55.17sarf|oogahiya Ktron!
07:55.37sarf|oogaYes, event driven programming is... different.
07:56.01sarf|oogakind of like your first experience with multi-threaded coding
07:56.11sarf|oogacool, exciting, new... shiny...
07:56.25sarf|oogabut with loads of new shiny error states and fault generators as well
07:57.10Caircool, it talked at me this time
07:57.31KtronI think once I get over that, I'll be alright, xml isn't exactly rocket science, and I can handle most html/css/php stuff already... I did enough c/c++/perl/java to have a good grasp of how to program, but none of it was multi-threaded
08:00.44Cairsarf, it talked at me that time
08:00.47Cair;)
08:00.47sarf|oogaYeah :)
08:00.57sarf|oogaFor some reason the samples get cut short tho
08:00.59Cairthat's a good first step ;)
08:01.13Cairsorry, I'll stop teasing
08:01.21sarf|oogaNo worries :)
08:01.31Cairnot like I've got any place to do so, since I can't code for WoW at all :p
08:02.13Cairexcept, well, I tease and joke around, it's what I do!
08:03.40futrtrubl'cuz she's a meanie
08:04.05sarf|ooga^^
08:04.12sarf|oogaI usually tease people too
08:04.19sarf|oogaBetter at it in text than in speech
08:05.02CairI dunno, you hurtededed my fewwings
08:05.21Cair;)
08:05.36futrtrublI will understand if you descided to delete my mod from your site and ban me forever
08:05.44Cairokay, last check of the sites and then time for me to sleep
08:06.06Ktronpurl, glare futrtrubl
08:06.07purlACTION glares at futrtrubl
08:06.24futrtrubloh noes!
08:07.18Cair~lart futrtrubl
08:07.26Cairlol
08:07.54Ktronlart is a fun one, because you don't even have to be on this channel when you start it off
08:08.16futrtrublmore info? about Cairs meanness?
08:08.31Cair~smack futrtrubl
08:08.32purlACTION smacks futrtrubl upside the head.
08:09.20Cairgeni ass ... oooookay
08:09.25futrtrubl;']
08:09.53Ktronpurl, the rule?
08:10.04Ktronpurl, the rule
08:10.19futrtrublpurl rule
08:10.21purlmethinks rule is play nice.
08:10.21Ktroncome on purl, behave
08:11.45Ktronheh, this hellClock example isn't too bad... hmph, what's a good idea for a 'practice' addon to make?
08:11.58sarf|oogaAuto-Pwnage?
08:12.02Cairlol
08:12.06sarf|oogaLolifier?
08:12.17Ktronlolifier?
08:12.18sarf|oogaWTFOMGBBQ
08:12.25sarf|oogaLol-ify sentences
08:12.32Ktronpurl, sarf|ooga is a disgrace.
08:12.35purlKtron: okay
08:12.36sarf|oogaadd loads of lolololol at the end of them
08:12.36futrtrubla new auction screen
08:12.48kergoth~rules
08:12.49purlrules are a requirement for having exceptions
08:12.52Cair~lart sarf|ooga
08:12.53kergothlol
08:13.11Ktrona new auction screen would be fun, but I'm thinking simpler than that
08:13.21sarf|oogaBut seriously: make an addon that plays a sound whenever you type in "/ooga"
08:13.29KtronLike, something I'll have to make a button for, maybe even add a keybinding too
08:13.35futrtrublan addon to remember your nameplate state
08:13.49Ktronand something that isn't modified anything else... nameplate state?
08:13.57Ktronlike 'zzz' or not?
08:14.11futrtrubllike the health bars above mobs
08:14.21futrtrublthe thing that shows when you press V
08:14.25sarf|oogahttp://www.fukt.bth.se/~k/wow/stuff/UnrealSoundPack_1800_v0.03-test.zip
08:14.28sarf|oogaNow with more sounds
08:14.41sarf|oogaactually
08:14.46sarf|ooganow with 16bit sound
08:14.49sarf|oogabut nevermind that
08:14.52Ktronfutrtrubl: ah... hm...
08:14.56futrtrublI made it as a test addon so I can send you my code for reference
08:15.15futrtrublvery simple
08:15.34KtronWell, are you going to be up for another 15-20 minutes?
08:15.40futrtrublindeed
08:16.11sarf|oogaKtron> Another addon could be to simply honk out a big "gong" sound every time the hour strikes half whatever
08:16.12Ktronaight, I'll look and see if I can't take a stab at how I think I'd make it anyway first... was it a graphical indicator, or...
08:17.04futrtrublnope, the indicator is the nameplates themselves, but it did have a frame with a button that shows on a slash command
08:17.42futrtrublit remembers the state so it automatically turns them on when you log in, if you had them on last time
08:21.27sarf|oogaIs there an addon that totally removes them from my system along with any indication of them ever existing?
08:21.53sarf|oogaTime to eat breakfast!
08:22.15futrtrublremoves what from your system?
08:22.30Cairand time for sleep for me
08:22.32Cairnight folks
08:22.50sarf|breakfasthealth plates
08:22.52sarf|breakfastGOod night Cair
08:22.58sarf|breakfastNo more insomnia, do you hear?
08:23.05Cair|sleepgonna try :)
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08:28.06futrtrublanyone see AeonFlux?
08:28.45Ktronnot here
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08:29.36MoonWolfmorning
08:30.51DephWhat... on earth.. is Earth anyway?
08:31.38futrtrubla library?
08:31.43Depha stupid window I never use? why's it so big? why is it a requirement? XD if it's a function library, how come I can't find documentation anywhere...
08:31.55Dephwowwiki has a tutorial...
08:31.56Dephoh yey
08:32.59DephI just ran Tekkub's great Warmup mod, and earth is taking longer than just about anything else to load (it's actually taking slightly longer than auctioneer)
08:33.38MoonWolfwow
08:33.52MoonWolfwhat is your auctioneer loading time ?
08:34.02Deph1.507 according to Warmup
08:34.06MoonWolfand Earth loading time ?
08:34.14DephEarth is nearly 2 seconds
08:34.21MoonWolfwow
08:34.26MoonWolfglad i dont have that then.
08:34.33Deph1.871
08:34.48Cair|sleepkeep all criticisms constructive, hey?
08:34.52DephDiscord is 1.860 and CTRA is 1.7 something
08:34.58DephDiscord Unit Frames rather
08:35.06KtronI bet if I ran warmup,  Flexbar would be up there
08:35.10Dephlol
08:35.30DephI JUST stopped running flexbar, to try out Discord Action Bars 3.0 for kicks
08:35.35Dephso I don't have flexbar running
08:35.51DephBut really... what does Earth DO?
08:36.10DephSea, Sky, Chronos... I know those... but Earth is this mystery thing
08:36.42MoonWolfisnt earth an xml type librarie?
08:36.50Dephit says it's used for "rapidly creating frames in WoW"
08:37.05Deph... frames are easy to make... in fact, it's about the ONLY thing I can do well XD
08:37.09Cair|sleep*constructive* criticisms are good things, as they help to benefit the entire community ... bashing, otoh, just serves to drive a further wedge in the community and benefits no one
08:37.19MoonWolf<Frame name="name"> </frame>
08:37.21Dephwhy do I need this huge mod to help me do something XML end O_o
08:37.24Dephprecisely Moon
08:37.57futrtrubl<Frame name="name"/>
08:38.17Cair|sleepbtw, I'm not saying you *are* bashing, just reminding you to *keep* it positive and constructive :)
08:38.28DephI just want to know, lol
08:39.15Dephhalf the reason I'm into this UI editing stuff is the insatiable desire to know how things work
08:39.19futrtrublI spose Earth must be a template library as apposed to a function lib
08:39.29Dephyeah, looks like it
08:39.38Deph"a FrameXML library"
08:39.55Cair|sleepand MentalPower
08:40.00Cair|sleepand Legorol
08:40.04Dephif more things used it... maybe it'd be worth it... but I think Khaos is the only thing I have that has it as a dependancy
08:40.15Cair|sleep(heh, just trying to get their attention for you Deph)
08:40.20Dephno prob
08:40.30DephI'll as when it's not the middle of the night for most of the US sometime XD
08:40.47Cair|sleepyeah, but a lot of them are actually EU
08:40.53futrtrublI might have used it when I started out since the damn XML was the hardest part, but now xml is easy
08:40.58DephI was just like "WTF" because I forget about Earth... I should probably learn the templates...  maybe they're useful
08:41.03Dephreally? XD
08:41.07Dephthe XML is the easy part for me
08:41.19Dephtoo much XHTML and XML skinning of programs
08:41.28Dephthe WoW UI XML is a lot better than Trillian Skins
08:41.31Dephor Winamp Skins
08:41.34Cair|sleepxml is easy, lua confuses the fuck out of me
08:41.37futrtrublthe wiki wasn't exactly clear on what the elements and atributes did
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08:42.28Dephcause honestly, if Khaos is the only thing that uses it
08:42.34DephI'll make MY OWN addon with the templates it uses XD
08:42.36Dephand just run that
08:42.51futrtrublbut then I got XMLSpy, and being able to use the xsd is great
08:43.01futrtrubluh, schema even
08:44.22DephBut I'm getting tired of my loadtime being so long... and it's all these addons XD
08:44.44Dephwhen Tekkub posted that link to Warmup I was muchly pleased
08:45.21Dephnow I don't have to try to figure it out based on which has the biggest savedvariables and XML files
08:45.34Dephwhich come to think of it, I never looked at earths XML files
08:45.35CodayusHmm, logged onto a char I haven't played in ages, looked at the inventory and bank...and wondered what the HELL I was thinking...
08:45.50DephHOMG that's a lot of XML files O_o
08:45.56Dephlol... what's in there? XD
08:46.05CodayusWhy was I collecting the magisters set?  It's not even that good for mages, what was I doibt with it as a priest?
08:46.17Dephlol
08:46.27Dephpriest gear sucks?
08:47.42CodayusAnd a couple pieces of postmaster.  And bunch of spell crit gear.  And a *LOT* of quest items for lowbie quests I'll never complete...
08:47.50Dephlol
08:48.14Dephthank GOD for QuestItem
08:48.22CodayusAnd the sad thing is, I'm honestly thinking about grabbing the 4th bank slot so I don't have to throw the junk out.  I'm a packrat.  :-(
08:48.28DephI use advanced bags plus
08:48.34Dephand my quest items bag would be so full of JUNK
08:48.37sarf|breakfastYes, Earth is an addon to help create cute graphical things fast
08:48.41sarf|breakfastFramework thingy
08:49.02Deph... but nobody uses it D: and I need it to run Khaos, and I hate it XD
08:49.11sarf|breakfastThen you are a bad boy.
08:49.14Dephsomebody might use it if there was documentation...
08:49.19Deph*coughs*
08:49.22CodayusI have captain sanders shirt in my bank.  But I'd never wear it, it's ugly as hell.  But hey, if I scrapped it, I couldn't get it back since its a quest reward.
08:49.23sarf|breakfastwww.wowwiki.com/Earth
08:49.37sarf|breakfastbut yes, addon was orphaned by Alex going into the arms of the beast itself
08:49.39Dephoh yes... nice documentation
08:49.51DephEarth has not been fully documented yet. However, you can see most of the documentation by reading the .lua files.
08:49.52sarf|breakfastThere is documentation
08:50.02DephI'm in the LUA files now, actually
08:50.02sarf|breakfastI'm not saying its complete ^^
08:50.12sarf|breakfastI'm in a chair staring at a screen
08:50.22sarf|breakfast"Do *YOU* know what your addons are doing?"
08:50.27Dephfiguring out how to strip out what I need for Khaos running XD
08:50.28sarf|breakfastErhm
08:50.42sarf|breakfastSleep, Cair :)
08:50.47Cair|sleepyeah yeah
08:50.52Cair|sleep:)
08:50.59futrtrublSLEEP!
08:51.10Dephpoppird
08:51.11CodayusAnd I'm saving an eggscilloscope, despite having done the quest its used for, because "hey, I might want to freeze a rookery egg someday!"  :-(
08:51.14DephWOAH KEYBOARD
08:51.18Deph"poppies!"
08:51.35Dephoh yeah?
08:51.36Dephmy main
08:51.56sarf|happyHey, get a five man group together and go play Ghostbusters in UBRS :)
08:52.06Dephhas like... 20 of those Hallowed Wands in his bank XD
08:52.23Deph\i still have the "really sticky glue"
08:52.40DephI have an alt with the shirts every class starts with
08:52.45futrtrublonly 80?
08:52.53sarf|happyNo...
08:53.15sarf|happybut 160 proof alcohol contains 80 proof too, technically speaking
08:53.23sarf|happyhmm
08:53.31futrtrublwarm milk is a very small part of the recipe and can be easily left out ;']
08:53.34sarf|happyhow about a glass of milk at zero degrees Kelvin?
08:53.41Cair|sleepanyway, I'm out for real now, nighty night
08:53.44Cair|sleeplol sarf|happy
08:53.45sarf|happyRiiight :)
08:53.47DephG'night
08:53.54sarf|happyNite and sleep well... and sooon!
08:54.01Cair|sleephey, I'm doing good tonight, it's only 4 am!
08:54.05Cair|sleep;)
08:54.44Ktronpurl, Cair|sleep
08:54.45purlit has been said that cair|sleep is supposed to be sleeping!
08:57.44Dephokay... nevermind... this time earth fired up in just over a second (still one of the longer ones, but not uberlong like it was) XD
09:02.54futrtrublget rid of earth totally and put the templates + funcs in Khaos
09:03.04Dephthat's what I'm doing
09:03.08Dephlol
09:03.09futrtrublahhhh, k
09:03.11Dephwell
09:03.15Dephno, putting the functions in my own mod
09:03.20Dephso I can update khaos without tears
09:03.31futrtrublgood idea
09:03.57sarf|happyhttp://www.fukt.bth.se/~k/wow/stuff/UnrealSoundPack_1800_v0.04-test.zip
09:04.13Dephfinishing my current project first though... .old-ifying all my old and unused addons so it's not reading them anyway
09:04.14sarf|happyNow with MP3 sounds and 200kb smaller
09:05.01Dephwow, only 190 objects in my Addons download folder
09:10.30sarf|happyBooyah!
09:10.30sarf|happyhttp://homepage.usask.ca/~amn076/lights.wmv
09:10.32futrtrublyou've been slacking Deph. Shame
09:10.35sarf|happyFear it!
09:10.40Dephyes, yes I have
09:10.45DephI have tons of addons I tested and didn't like
09:10.51Dephthat WoW is still loading
09:10.54Deph(disabled)
09:10.57futrtrublsame here ;']
09:11.10Dephwell... I already cut down my load time 12 seconds
09:11.23Dephso you might want to try getting rid of some of those, lol
09:11.30futrtrublwhat lvl char do you normally use Deph?
09:11.34Dephsad D:
09:11.39DephI've gotten to 36
09:11.45Dephhighest level char
09:11.47futrtrublthen you need BEB ;']
09:12.00DephI have every class up to 20 except for rogue, warrior, and pally
09:12.02DephI dislike melee XD
09:12.08DephBEB?
09:12.15futrtrublpurl beb
09:12.16purlextra, extra, read all about it, beb is BasicExperienceBar, a highly configurable WoW XP bar addon. Find it at your favorite WoW addon site.
09:12.24Dephlol
09:12.30DephI don't care much about my XP bar
09:12.37futrtrubl;']
09:12.43DephI used to run LAX, but the numbers just depressed me
09:12.50Deph(lax, avgxp)
09:13.08futrtrublyeah, hated them too, so made my own
09:13.11DephI've seen it before actually... on the Discord forums I believe
09:13.17futrtrublyup
09:13.46KtronAlright, I think I'm out for the night
09:13.50Dephright now, I just have uh... well right now I don't have and EXP bar actually O_o
09:13.57futrtrublsee you Ktron
09:14.24futrtrublDiscord led to that
09:14.30Dephlol
09:14.32Dephyeah
09:14.34Dephwhen I ran flexbar
09:14.42futrtrublanother reason I made BEB ;']
09:14.50DephI just used the default FAQ command to show/hide the main bar on keypress
09:14.58Deph...now I can't do that
09:15.27DephOne thing at a time!
09:15.35futrtrublDAB 3 you can apparently enable the main bar art (which includes default UI exp bar)
09:15.41Dephyeah
09:15.45Deph... but where do I put it?
09:15.52DephI haven't scripted anything to show/hide it on keypress
09:15.54futrtrublput what?
09:16.00Dephthe XP bar XD
09:16.04DephI don't like it showing all the time
09:16.20sarf|happyNight Ktron
09:16.25DephI miss flexbar *sigh*
09:16.31futrtrublgood idea, time to make BEB have a keybinding or mousover
09:16.38Dephlol
09:16.59MoonWolfBEB ? What is that ?
09:17.08futrtrublpurl BEB
09:17.09purlsomebody said beb was BasicExperienceBar, a highly configurable WoW XP bar addon. Find it at your favorite WoW addon site.
09:17.18MoonWolfah, that thingy.
09:17.21MoonWolfi pondered using that
09:17.38Deph...... Firefox.... decided to open lights.wmv.... as text
09:17.44futrtrublI'd say use it, but then again, I am the author ;']
09:17.49MoonWolfbut then i figured my titanbar xp plugin gives me all i need, i have no need for a grahpical bar.
09:17.50Dephmy computer is so fried
09:17.59Dephyeah, that's what I use Moon
09:18.07sarf|happypurl, make me chocolate milkshake
09:18.08purlmake: *** No rule to make target `me chocolate milkshake'.  Stop.
09:18.08DephI like a graphic one on occasion
09:18.12sarf|happydark
09:18.16sarf|happyand darn
09:18.30futrtrublMoonWolf give BEB a spin
09:18.42MoonWolfOkay, ill load it up in my test install once.
09:18.51sarf|happyNono
09:18.54sarf|happythat's web server issue
09:18.56futrtrublpurl slap sarf|happy
09:18.57purlACTION slaps sarf|happy, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!
09:19.01sarf|happyEeek
09:19.07Dephoho! I still curse firefox, as I can't stop it XD
09:19.09sarf|happyAll I wanted was chocolate milkshake!
09:19.19MoonWolfyeah, kill it peph
09:19.20sarf|happyis that so big a crime? :(
09:19.21futrtrublthanks MoonWolf
09:19.37DephI don't want to kill it... I have like... 80 tabs open XD
09:19.45futrtrubl~emulate me
09:19.47purlwhat DOES my name mean anyway? the world may never know
09:19.57MoonWolf~emulate me
09:19.58purlI hate you, I Hate you, I HATE you, Call me
09:20.08futrtrubl;']
09:20.13MoonWolfyay w3 qouets
09:20.31futrtrubl~emulate Peter
09:20.33purlNOOOOOO. Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids. Damn longears, trying to take Easter away from Jesus. Anyway, what was that you were saying?
09:20.49Dephthe good news? UnrealSoundPack loads in 0.003 sec
09:20.52sarf|happyThere are two kinds of pedestrians - the quick and the dead.
09:21.14sarf|happyI'd rather be pissed off than pissed on.
09:21.22sarf|happyI think, therefore, I'm single.
09:21.33sarf|happyThat ends this nights sarf quote bonanza.
09:21.40futrtrublpurl pedestrians is pedestrians? There are two kinds, the quick and the dead.
09:21.42purlfutrtrubl: okay
09:21.52futrtrublpurl pedestrians
09:21.55purlextra, extra, read all about it, pedestrians is pedestrians? There are two kinds, the quick and the dead.
09:22.02sarf|happyWe reserve the right to arm bears.
09:22.14futrtrublpurl no, pedestrians is <reply> pedestrians? There are two kinds, the quick and the dead.
09:22.15purlfutrtrubl: okay
09:22.21futrtrublpurl pedestrians
09:22.22purlpedestrians? There are two kinds, the quick and the dead.
09:22.25sarf|happy^^
09:22.47sarf|happySmall things amuse small minds - That's why I like elephants.
09:23.10Dephdid somebody say quotes?
09:23.14sarf|happyWhere are we going and what am I doing in this handbasket?
09:23.18futrtrublpurl emulate sarf|happy is <reply> Small things amuse small minds - That's why I like elephants.
09:23.19purlfutrtrubl: okay
09:23.21DephWhere am I going? And why am I in this handbasket?
09:23.22kergothlol
09:23.27Dephsarf, did you read my mind?
09:23.35sarf|happyYeah
09:23.39Dephwow
09:23.40futrtrubl~emulate sarf|happy
09:23.42purlSmall things amuse small minds - That's why I like elephants.
09:23.42sarf|happyLet me switch mental channels
09:23.55sarf|happyYou have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, then used against you.
09:24.11sarf|happyDon't hate yourself in the morning - sleep 'til noon.
09:24.26sarf|happyIf you don't pay your exorcist, do you get repossessed?
09:24.44sarf|happyIf the pen is mightier than the sword, and a picture is worth a thousand words, how dangerous is a fax?
09:25.15sarf|happyDo you need a silencer if you are going to shoot a mime?
09:25.22sarf|happyIf Superman is so smart, why does he wear his underpants over his trousers?
09:25.32futrtrubl;']
09:25.36sarf|happyIf electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
09:25.37Anduin|Workhe wears trousers?
09:25.39DephIf we are what we eat, I'm fast, chea, and easy.
09:25.39futrtrublon that note I am going to go to bed
09:25.45Dephcheap <--
09:25.46sarf|happy^^
09:25.52sarf|happyGood night futrtrubl
09:26.14futrtrublg'night
09:26.23Dephgah... memory... recall... sucks
09:26.33sarf|happyIf vegetarians eat vegetables, I guess that makes me a humanitarian.
09:26.47DephI don't need therapy, I need money.
09:26.53sarf|happyIf you are what you eat, I could be you by morning.
09:27.02sarf|happyChristmas is the time of year when Jesus rises from the grave to feast on the flesh of the living.
09:27.11kergothyay family guy
09:27.13sarf|happy"I like my women the same way I like my whiskey -- 15 years old and mixed up with coke."
09:27.13MoonWolfwhat is with alll they undead jokes
09:27.18kergoth~emulate peter
09:27.20purlwell, emulate peter is "<reply> You know those Germans; if you don't join the party, they come get you.
09:27.20DephI'm not being driven insane, I'm letting the insanity drive.
09:27.23futr-sleep~emulate stewie
09:27.24purlIt's like an orgy in my mouth!
09:27.29kergoth~emulate brian
09:27.30purlWell, Peter, if you're going to pull a party out of your ass, you might want to go ahead and stand up.
09:27.35kergothhaha, i love that one
09:27.40sarf|happy:)
09:27.50sarf|happyI prefer to think of them as the Ten Suggestions.
09:28.18sarf|happyIf you are sitting, just sit. If you are walking, just walk. Above all, don't wobble.
09:28.33sarf|happyIf someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it considered a hostage situation?
09:28.42sarf|happyIf someone gives you a penny for your thoughts, and you put your two cents in, where does the other penny go? Do you get change?
09:28.53sarf|happySticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me.
09:29.11sarf|happyI can read your mind, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
09:29.20sarf|happyTransvestites are men who like to eat, drink, and be Mary.
09:29.32sarf|happyA dyslexic, agnostic insomniac - one who lies awake at night wondering if there really is a dog...
09:29.52sarf|happyKeep grandma off the streets. Legalize bingo.
09:30.13sarf|happy^^
09:30.20sarf|happyA TV can insult your intelligence, but nothing rubs it in like a computer.
09:30.34sarf|happyASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI
09:30.44sarf|happyDisc space -- the final frontier!
09:31.14sarf|happyWindows95: n. A 32-bit extension and graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.
09:31.26sarf|happyLove is Hate. War is Peace. Windows is Stable.
09:31.55sarf|happyHey! It compiles! Ship it!
09:31.59sarf|happyBecome a programmer and never see the world!
09:32.03futr-sleepWindows 95 is being quoted
09:32.34sarf|happyBut I thought YOU did the backups...
09:32.51sarf|happyHidden DOS secret: add BUGS=OFF to your CONFIG.SYS
09:33.10sarf|happyThere is an old saying that if a million monkeys typed on a million keyboards for a million years, eventually all the works of Shakespeare would be produced. Now, thanks to Usenet, we know this is not true.
09:33.18kergothhehe
09:33.20kergothi like that one
09:33.20sarf|happyGive a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach him to use the Net and he won't bother you for weeks.
09:33.21AnduinLotharok sarf, stop spamming
09:33.24Dephlol
09:33.24sarf|happySorry :)
09:33.41sarf|happyJust keep finding new (old) quotes in my quote file ^^
09:33.49sarf|happy(all hail KookieJar!)
09:34.09AnduinLotharMake a Counselor plug-in full of all ur quotes
09:34.09DephI miss my quotefiles... they're buried on a backup drive I just took out
09:34.25sarf|happyInteresting idea
09:34.56AnduinLotharcall it QuickQuotes
09:35.09EndI think that I think, therefore I think that I am.
09:35.27DephThat that is is not that that is not.
09:35.41sarf|happy:)
09:36.00sarf|happyCan I make it send threatening tells to people that say stupid things in Ironforge?
09:36.09Dephrofl
09:36.25AnduinLotharlong as it's automatic and disablable
09:36.30sarf|happyHmm
09:36.39sarf|happyHow about a really cryptic option name?
09:37.04AnduinLotharproblem is then u'd end up spamming them
09:37.08Dephlol
09:37.13sarf|happyhehe
09:37.17sarf|happyWhat problem? ^^
09:37.18Dephyou'd probably flood yourself XD
09:37.27sarf|happyWell, that too :)
09:37.30sarf|happyGood night End!
09:37.39End-sleepnight!
09:37.53sarf|happyTime to shop more milk
09:37.55sarf|happyand cookies
09:38.04sarf|happyand... er... chips
09:38.21AnduinLotharmmm, time for some bash scripting
09:39.44MoonWolfsomeone bought a speedsteel rapier i had on for 20 gold 40 buyout
09:39.54MoonWolfand is now trying to resel it for 50 gold 80 buyout
09:39.55MoonWolffool
09:41.52Dephwhat's the addon that skips all those annoying dialogs like the bank, and flight masters?
09:42.00KolthAutoGossip
09:42.06Kolthor some such name
09:42.58Dephthanks, that's likely enough to do me... using mobile frames, and having to mouse to one side of the screen to click the gossip frame, just to scroll back over to the primary frame was getting annoying
09:43.51Dephauto select... the keyword "gossip" was wat I needed
09:46.05AnduinLotharSarf. is StupidDismount somewhere i can dl it?
09:46.11sarf|happyshoperr
09:46.17sarf|happyshopStupidMount2 you mean? ^^
09:46.25AnduinLotharsure
09:46.46*** join/#wowi-lounge Trilian (n=Miranda@dyndsl-085-016-019-193.ewe-ip-backbone.de)
09:48.07DephWOAH
09:48.15Deph... I just cut my load time by 75%
09:48.20Depherr addon load time
09:48.24DephI cut my total load time in half
09:48.34Dephuch better
09:48.36DephMuch
09:48.37sarf|happyshopNow it is :) AnduinLotharhttp://www.fukt.bth.se/~k/wow/scripts/StupidMount2/
09:48.40sarf|happyshoperr
09:48.41sarf|happyshophttp://www.fukt.bth.se/~k/wow/scripts/StupidMount2/
09:48.48sarf|happyshopCoolness :)
09:48.59AnduinLotharthx, i'm gonna hack it to use IsMounted
09:49.29sarf|happyshopCool
09:49.35sarf|happyshopErr
09:49.36sarf|happyshopDude
09:49.41sarf|happyshopit's stupider than that
09:49.44sarf|happyshopand more efficient
09:49.58sarf|happyshopit just checks for the "Can't do that, you f00! You be mounted" error message
09:49.59AnduinLotharhow so?
09:50.03AnduinLotharright
09:50.06sarf|happyshopBut I guess some of it can be patched
09:50.07sarf|happyshopHmm
09:50.09sarf|happyshop<shrugs>
09:50.22sarf|happyshophttp://slashdot.org/
09:50.25sarf|happyshopCompany Claims Development of True AI
09:50.27AnduinLotharIsMounted stores the buff index tho
09:50.29sarf|happyshopNeat
09:50.52AnduinLotharand I can just use Dismount() and cut out a chunk of the code
09:51.30AnduinLotharplus i dont need a table of mount names
09:52.49sarf|happyshopBah!
09:52.51sarf|happyshop^^
09:53.11sarf|happyshopAnyhow
09:53.15sarf|happyshopTime to go shopping for real. :)
09:57.11AnduinLotharah, i see u just copied the ismounted code anyway
09:58.43AnduinLotharand optionally uses IsMounted
09:58.49AnduinLotharwell then nevermind :)
09:58.53AnduinLotharnothing to do
09:58.58AnduinLothargj sarf
09:59.32AnduinLotharDeph, what all did u do to cut down load time?
10:00.53AnduinLotharbah.. workign on 6 mods concurently is detrimental to publishing
10:01.21AnduinLotharesp when ur client wants to take 6 minutes to reload
10:01.22Dephkilling about 50 addons that were in my addons folder
10:01.25Dephbut I wasn't using
10:01.30AnduinLotharah
10:01.51Dephstill have 151 objects in that folder, but I had 200 and something
10:01.57AnduinLotharwhere they enabled or was loading them at all an issue?
10:02.04Dephand I used warmup to get rid of the ones that took the most time
10:02.12Dephthey were loaded by wow, even though I have them disabled
10:02.25AnduinLotharwhat'd u find takign the most time?
10:02.29DephI just added .old extensions to the folders so it doesn't load them at all
10:02.46Dephwell advanced bags plus takes up 3 seconds... counting it's regent data dependancy
10:02.56Dephbut I <3 it
10:03.09DephI killed a whole bunch of .4 second ones
10:03.15DephEarth is still taking up 1-2 seconds though
10:03.20AnduinLotharmmm, ya i dont have any bag mods
10:03.25Dephthat's a project for tomorrow
10:03.28AnduinLotharya earth needs some love
10:03.31Dephmybank is .200
10:03.45Dephthe discord mods, of course, add a lot of time
10:03.49AnduinLothardoes warmup spit out loading time for each addon?
10:03.52Dephbut they're worth it to me ATM
10:03.53Dephyeah
10:03.59AnduinLotharnifty
10:04.04Dephtip buddy is .332 sec
10:04.05AnduinLotharguess i'll go get it then
10:04.08AnduinLotharlink?
10:04.17Dephno, sorry mybank is almost a half a second
10:04.21AnduinLothari need to see what's takign my system 5 min to load
10:04.30Dephlol
10:04.38Dephauctioneer is 1.142
10:04.53Dephearth took longer than auctioneer this time again *sigh*
10:05.04DephXML seems to take a lot longer to load than huge amounts of LUA
10:05.15AnduinLotharmmm, i think it's also the amount of errors
10:05.23AnduinLotharerror negotiating takes more time
10:05.30DephCTRA is just under a second 0.940
10:05.39AnduinLotharand earth spits out about 200 framexml errors atm
10:05.49Dephahh
10:06.22DephGatherer is 0.4
10:06.31Dephmost are under .05
10:06.39DephI got rid of a lot of .1-.4 addons
10:06.50AnduinLotharit just has script templates but since 1.8 it now prints errors if you try to make a frame from a template when the template has scripts defined that the inheriting frame doesn't
10:07.13AnduinLotharwriting to disk prolly doesn't help the load time
10:07.25DephI'm pleased at how well Discord Art loads actually... I'd think it'd be more of a hog than it is... 0.134 sec
10:08.12Dephwhich is probably about how bad my poorly coded addon to drop in my textures was XD
10:08.34AnduinLotharbah, the dropdownmenu code need off screen correction..
10:08.50Dephblizz'? I know
10:08.58DephI tried to move the chat menu to Titanpanel
10:09.06Dephbut since it's in the upper right corner.. *sigh*
10:09.14DephI hacked it into place, but it's ugly XD
10:09.24Dephneed to make container frames for the default menu, or just replace it
10:09.26AnduinLotharI think i'll make a small addon to fix that..
10:09.49Dephreally I only use two things
10:09.54Dephthe language options
10:09.59AnduinLotharmaybe call it DropUpMenu
10:10.00Dephwait... that's one thing
10:10.20AnduinLotharhook ToggleDropDownMenu
10:11.31DephI was going to look into doing that, but knowing my luck (and more importantly, skill) I'd break something
10:11.44AnduinLothargood thing i wrote the Earth menu onscreen code alreayd... can just rip it
10:12.06DephI just need to make a language dropdown for titan
10:12.45Dephmy "FU" macro seems to be a hit... I managed to get a bunch of alliance seething mad at me today
10:13.11KolthFU macro?
10:13.15Dephtroll
10:13.21Dephone of the two letter words
10:13.23Dephis FU
10:13.28Kolthoi
10:13.32Deph"it, specifically"
10:13.39Deph"it" specifically
10:13.50Dephso I made a macro to change my language, say IT, and change it back
10:14.15Dephlol
10:14.29DephI need to do more experimenting
10:14.38Dephtroll gives me a LOT of single character letters
10:14.53Dephmore than orcish, or taurehe, haven't tried gutterspeak yet
10:15.07Dephorcish only gets G O L A N
10:16.00Deph...which is interesting if you want to spam alliance with the name of coruscants orbital defense sattelites
10:16.22Dephor the word L A G
10:16.43Dephbut troll gets M N J H A S E U O
10:17.41Dephif I do one letter a line, I can make words using both languages to get M N J H A S E U O N G L -- whatever I can make with those
10:18.19Dephbut I've only put a small amount of time into two letter words, and almost none into three letter words, to find out what's possible
10:18.27DephIt's too boring
10:32.27AnduinLotharwow...
10:32.43AnduinLothari crashed it again..
10:32.52StylpeGo you!
10:33.10AnduinLotharsounds liek a persistant bug... this is the 4th time
10:35.08Dephyeah, flexbar is 1.98 secs
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10:37.13DephI miss Better Key Bindings already
10:37.23AnduinLotharheh
10:37.32Dephbut it took 0.3 secs to load which is too much of my live added up, for the 2 seconds every so often it saves me XD
10:37.38AnduinLotharya. sorting and confirmation are critical
10:37.53DephI'll probably reactivate it in 2 days, lol
10:40.37AnduinLotharhmm, looks liek blizz got the code for off the bottom already, just gotta get it to not go off the right side
10:40.53Dephtop! XD
10:45.40Dephif I can *sigh*
10:46.00AnduinLotharah, it doen't check top either?
10:46.13Dephnot from what I saw moving the chat button
10:46.19AnduinLothark
10:46.28Dephdon't know if that uses the default pulldown events though
10:46.59AnduinLotharit is i think
10:48.21AnduinLotharnah, they fixed that it looks like
10:48.42AnduinLothardropdown menus default to down now, unless they go off the bottom of the screen
10:49.06Dephso yeah, the chat button is it's own event
10:49.07AnduinLotharso moving the chat to the top works fine
10:49.18AnduinLotharno, chat button is the same one
10:49.24Dephreally? WTF XD
10:49.36AnduinLothari just tested, worked fine
10:50.17Dephhuh... wonder why mine freaks out then, just moved ChatFrameMenuButton to the top, and sure enough, it hates me
10:50.40AnduinLotharah, u mean the button, not that tab
10:50.45Dephyeah
10:51.01Deph"ChatMenu" is the menu that spawns from that button
10:51.12AnduinLotharya, k that goes off tip
10:51.24Dephlol
10:52.08DephReasons Deph loves Flexbar: comments comments comments
10:52.26AnduinLotharya, those are cool
10:52.44AnduinLotharshould make a mod that does comments for the default buttons
10:52.50Dephlol
10:52.56DephI mean comments in the code
10:53.09Dephbut yeah, the tooltip and on button text displays are ubernice too
10:53.10AnduinLotharoh, i meant the button comments
10:53.20Dephlol
10:54.15AnduinLotharya, there u go. the ChatMenu has anchors hardcoded
10:54.30AnduinLothar<Anchor point="BOTTOMLEFT" relativeTo="ChatFrameMenuButton" relativePoint="TOPRIGHT"/>
10:54.36Dephinto events, not even the XML, you move them and it gets VERY angry XD
10:54.43Dephwell the submenu's are events
10:54.58Dephdunno if those use the default hook *checks*
10:55.26Dephnope... they go up
10:55.33Depheh, whatever
10:55.42Dephnobody uses that stupid button anyway, except for language changes
10:57.40Dephwhich very few people do
10:57.46AnduinLotharah, there we go. ChatMenu uses the UIMenu and not the UIDropDownMenu
10:59.35Dephwooo... successfully trimmed the icon!
10:59.36AnduinLotharspose i could hook that too
10:59.47Dephlol, what even uses it?
10:59.59Dephbesides that
11:01.02AnduinLotharnothing
11:01.09AnduinLotharjust those 4 menus
11:01.42AnduinLothargrep shows it only ever used in FloatingChatFrame.xml
11:02.09Dephso why bother? -- although some crazy mofo might want to move their chatwindow to the top of the screen... nobody uses that button XD
11:02.19DephI tell people about the button and they don't even know what it is
11:02.33AnduinLotharmost peopel jsut hide it
11:02.39Dephyup
11:03.06Dephwhich is why I was going to move it to titanpanel, just in case.. but then I had a few troubles and decided to skip it, and just make a language pulldown for Titan
11:03.14AnduinLotharif it had all the emotes and a favorites option it might be useful..
11:03.53AnduinLotharmaybe that's where i'll put the emote stoff from ChannelManager
11:03.53Deph(I just disabled my addon that janky addon that moved the menus (moved their positions broke the menu's backgrounds, but maintained functionality)
11:04.16Dephso I'm back to the button to change languages XD
11:04.33Dephit shows/hides with my default show/hide keybinding now that I'm running flexbar again
11:04.53AnduinLotharwell that was simple. my DropDownMenu hook works perfectly
11:06.20AnduinLotharwait a sec... the 2nd lvl chatframe menus do it already O.o
11:06.35DephO_o
11:06.37DephXD
11:06.54AnduinLotharbut not the 1st lvl..
11:07.37AnduinLotharomg.. i so need to fix the chattabs dragging..
11:08.06AnduinLothari hate the default OnDragStart behavior
11:08.32Dephlol
11:08.36Dephjust make one addon
11:08.45Dephcall it "anduin makes the ui work right"
11:09.01Dephfix all the little stupid problems, scroll wheel stuff, the works XD
11:09.15AnduinLotharno one likes 'the works' addons
11:09.19Dephtrue
11:09.33Dephbut there's so many things "wrong" with the default blizz interface
11:09.40Dephthat everyone would benefit from being fixed XD
11:09.47AnduinLotharthey should just hire me
11:09.55DephOr that
11:09.59Dephyou put in an app? XD
11:10.18AnduinLotharyeah, for 3 diff positions over the past yr
11:10.33Depheazy zoom, and chat scroll, should both be inherant IMHO
11:12.41Dephand page up and page down not working in anything bugs me too XD
11:13.09Dephbut that's a personal thing, not something that's "wrong"
11:13.18AnduinLothardoes ez zoom hide the buttons?
11:13.32DephI... have no... idea
11:13.42DephI haven't even tinkered with the options in..... forever
11:13.45AnduinLotharMinimapZoom >> *
11:14.05Dephminimap zoom is it? whatever XD
11:14.28DephBAH I miss better key bindings *re-enables it*
11:14.41Dephactually I AM running Easy Zoom
11:17.28Dephhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2478 <-- nice now I don't have to do it manually anymore
11:18.35Dephso many of my chars bug me because the max camera distance is the default 30, instead of higher, and 50 should be enough... although I put it to 80 when I edit the file
11:19.52AnduinLothari zoom in and out a lot
11:20.02DephI do as well, stupid trees and crap
11:20.12Dephbut I like it pulled out when there's nothing much above me, and in BGs
11:21.27DephI missed this mod before, I try to keep up with the new addons list on Curse... *shrug*
11:22.23Dephhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2773 <-- wonder how well this works
11:23.23AnduinLotharprolly uses onupdate
11:24.48Dephso... does anybody even know how the default bliz camera keybindings work?
11:24.55DephI toyed with them... once
11:25.00Dephfailed... didn't care
11:25.36AnduinLotharit uses tabstops
11:25.52DephI mean how on earth you can use it XD
11:25.55AnduinLotharone angled and one strait back
11:26.25DephI couldn't get the keybindings themselves to work, the default blizz camera position saving and recalling keybindings XD
11:26.37AnduinLothar?
11:30.33Dephthe Set View 1 Save View and Reset View keybindings
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11:44.38StylpeWow, how long does it take to iterate over the entire global environment anyways? =P
11:48.44StylpeThere's only 20163 variables there...
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11:49.02AnduinLotharmorning slou
11:49.20AnduinLotharsneaks by to where?
11:49.40Stylpeslouken: Did you know that the global environment has over 20 000 items?
11:50.21StylpeI can't iterate over that =(
11:50.31AnduinLotharheh
11:50.36AnduinLotharpoor sty
11:50.52StylpeOr maybe I just can't fit all the  names in one string... :F
11:51.12AnduinLotharthat's more likely
11:51.55AnduinLotharslouken, u up for bug report and/or suggestions or should i just post it?
11:52.52AnduinLothardont want to be a pain, seeing as it's 4am and most people like to get away from work when they go home..
11:54.41AnduinLotharah ic. he really did 'sneak by'
11:54.50Dephlol
11:55.44sloukenJust post it.
11:56.23AnduinLotharkk, figured
11:56.24Dephit'd be easier than modifying the Flexbar code... *sigh*
11:56.48sloukenlol
11:57.07AnduinLotharwhat brings u to the home of us poor nerds in the dead of the night?
11:57.28sloukenJust checking e-mail, I conked out early this evening.
11:57.56sloukenGood morning all, I'm going to try to go back to sleep. :)
11:58.01AnduinLotharah, chalk it up to distorted sleeping paterns
11:58.16sloukensomething like that. :)
11:58.21AnduinLothargl with that. i don't seem to have any..
11:58.33Dephdistorted ones? or sleeping patterns period?
11:58.40AnduinLotharyes
11:58.44Dephlol
11:58.51Dephexactly
11:58.57AnduinLothar:)
11:59.43AnduinLothari really need to get into the habit of loading testing subsets of addons..
12:00.02Dephdo what I do, have a second blank wow install XD
12:00.29AnduinLotharmmm, i have one on my ipod i could boot up i spose
12:00.33DephI just drag whatever I need to test what I'm doing over to the other... then I can work without conflicts, and ReloadUI() is SO much faster
12:00.53AnduinLotharright, the loading/reloadui is what i'm interested in
12:01.06DephFigured
12:01.19DephI actually have 3 installs
12:01.59Deph"my" install... my test install, which still has my keybindings and junk... and a CLEAN CLEAN install for my friend to play using my account (since it saves keybindings per account, and nobody but me could ever play with my bindings)
12:02.22Dephwell three copies... they're all a copy of one install
12:03.09Dephoh, the clean clean one still has my transparent ESRB image for the title/login screen though ^_^ - that picture just ruins the feel of that screen
12:04.42zeegi seriously want to slap people on the internet sometimes
12:04.51zeegby slap
12:04.55zeegi mean beat the piss out of
12:04.59Dephwho doesn't?
12:05.20AnduinLotharzeeg, does ur new installer have a mac vers?
12:05.24zeegno :(
12:05.25zeegits .NET
12:05.31AnduinLotharew
12:07.56Dephlol, less saved variables I guess
12:08.00Dephwow quits a lot faster now too
12:17.53AnduinLotharwhat's the oomlou-o utf-8 code?
12:18.10AnduinLotharö
12:18.24Dephoomlout?
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12:18.55Dephoomlout o... sounds good to me
12:19.02DephHey Tekkub... I <3 Warmup
12:19.10Dephjust cut my wow load time in half
12:19.10Tekkub(Oh my god) (Run away!)
12:19.21TekkubDeph: ^^^
12:19.22Arkboyscrew you
12:19.34Tekkub:P
12:21.13Arkboyweee
12:21.18Tekkubyar
12:21.29Arkboytanaris
12:21.35Tekkubfien!
12:21.39Tekkubget me a dew
12:21.48Arkboydo I look like your boyfriend
12:21.51Tekkubyes
12:22.06Arkboyi'm eating increadiably crusty bread at he moment
12:22.14Tekkub~fix Arkboy
12:22.16purlACTION takes Arkboy to the vet for a "special" visit.
12:22.42Arkboyfine but your not gonna like me as a boyfriend after thats
12:22.54Dephlol
12:23.17Tekkubwe'll buy you an upgrade
12:23.24Tekkuba resizable one
12:23.30Arkboyoh so what I got now isn't big enugh huh
12:23.48Tekkubwith variable speed
12:24.06Arkboyi'm variable
12:24.14Arkboyeither in the mood or not
12:24.18Arkboythats 2 whole speeds
12:24.36Tekkub:P
12:25.05Dephwell after that trip to the vet... you won't be in the mood much... so you're down to 1 buddy
12:25.34Arkboywell thats fine, now I know why he wanted me to buy him the toys
12:26.30Tekkubwe shoulda got onea those universal harnesses for you two
12:26.39AnduinLotharthere we go. got TrackerToggle down to zero deps
12:26.43Tekkubadapt-a-penis!
12:26.53Arkboyun huh
12:26.54AnduinLotharnow TrackerToggle > SilverTrack
12:27.02Arkboyyour just mad becase we left your harness in denver
12:27.20Tekkubyea I did like the thing tho I rarely wore it
12:27.37Arkboyit got in the way of the nipples
12:27.43Tekkubwhere's Cair when you need her?  she prolly got all drunked and passed out on the keyboard
12:28.01AnduinLotharhard to change ur nick if u pass out
12:28.20Tekkubyou do it just before
12:28.20Arkboyla la la
12:29.24Arkboybleh me sleepy again
12:29.39AnduinLotharwtf...
12:29.54AnduinLotharwhat is auto-moving my dropdown on screen
12:30.14AnduinLotharor maybe some addon i dont have installed isn't interfering..
12:30.18Tekkubdrop downs are common like that blasted GameTooltip
12:30.21Arkboyhahahahah
12:30.26Tekkubis somethin g else writing a menu?
12:30.59AnduinLotharEarth does, but it writes it's own, i dont think it changes the builtin one, besides.. i have that loaded..
12:31.15Arkboyoh ma gawd he logged in
12:31.57Arkboyalthough he needs to stop plaing wif da bankers
12:32.04TekkubI think I broked OneBankBag....
12:32.15TekkubI hear it open but nada on screen...
12:34.21Arkboyweee
12:35.05Arkboyfinally time to use my second mointer
12:35.16Dephlol
12:35.30DephI was down to one at one point, almost cried
12:35.34Arkboywell I'm never home and I'm usally remoted it
12:35.40Tekkubone is painful
12:35.41Arkboyso I only have one normaly
12:35.53AnduinLotharomg... cursor anchored tooltip stays on screen too! where the hell is this coming from..
12:36.01DephROFL
12:36.55Arkboytsk tsk
12:37.08Arkboysuch a pottie mouth
12:37.22Tekkub<PROTECTED>
12:37.27Tekkub<PROTECTED>
12:37.34AnduinLotharwhere the hell is this comign from..
12:37.43Arkboyum from something you installed
12:37.45Arkboyduh
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12:37.59AnduinLotharno.. it can only be something i uninstalled..
12:38.45AnduinLothari'm only running 15 addons, all of which i had enabled in my normal set of 110
12:38.54Arkboyhe's stupid
12:39.08Tekkubalchy goo boom
12:39.15Arkboyhe wasted a perfectilly good bottle of booze
12:39.23Tekkuba $3 bottle
12:39.30Arkboysooo
12:39.32Arkboydat shits good
12:39.45Arkboymmm mmm like campbells soup
12:45.16AnduinLotharwell, it's not gymnast, that's good to know..
12:45.22AnduinLotharwhat else messes with um..
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12:46.05AnduinLotharwow.. that's a pretty blatent bug..
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12:46.16Dephstupid escape button
12:46.36AnduinLotharif u call CancelTrackingBuff() when you have no tracking on it crashes wow
12:46.47Dephlol
12:48.18AnduinLotharsomeone wanna verify that for me in a macro from a hardware event?
12:48.38Dephsure
12:49.29Dephwait... on Test?
12:49.36AnduinLotharretail
12:49.42AnduinLothardoesn;t crash on test?
12:49.45Deph... okay, it just TOOK AWHILE to crash
12:49.53Dephno, I'm on retail... it crashed, it just had to think about it
12:49.59Dephkept getting "you can't do that yet" errors
12:50.06Dephas I mashed it
12:50.09DephTHEN it crashed XD
12:50.26Dephtook long enough to go down, for me to ask you the "wait... on Test?" question though, lol
12:52.08Dephwell, now that I've virtually completely modified the appearance of Flexbar.... now I have to give cooldowncount a text outline.... *sigh*
12:53.41AnduinLotharhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=274089
12:54.11Dephlol
12:54.34AnduinLothar;)
12:55.07AnduinLothar:)
12:55.07Dephafter making sure to cast find herbs XD
12:55.12DephJUST IN CASE
12:56.28Dephthen again, if I ever want to exit the program really fast.... >:D
12:56.37AnduinLothar:)
12:57.43AnduinLotharfor when those PUG 5man scholo isn't quite going as well as expected..
12:58.23AnduinLotharlol, newb
12:59.12Dephconsider... six months... highest level character.... 36... >_< too many alts, too much UI editing
12:59.39Deph36 priest already has a /played of 18 days 20 hours XD
12:59.49AnduinLothari got my wow adiction covered in the first 6 months. had a lvl 60 in the first 2
13:00.04Dephlol
13:00.10DephI kept making alts
13:00.13Dephit didn't help I started on PvE
13:00.18Dephwhich makes the game NOT NEAR as fun
13:00.37Dephbut I was sick of getting ganked in games like Diablo, but it hadn't occured to me alliance can't talk shit
13:00.43AnduinLothari like pve better than pvp personally, but it does make things more challenging
13:00.57DephThe enemy not being able to talk shit, makes PvP so much better
13:02.18Dephas ingoramuses (I actually just looked up the plural, it's not ignoramii, it's ignoramuses) can't be trying to insult me
13:03.57DephNothing was worse in D2 than playing with some guy, then having him randomly turn on me, kill me after a creep has my health way down, then insult me, and tell me I suck at the game...
13:04.15Deph... okay...
13:05.25Dephmeanwhile, cross faction communcation in wow at this point seems limited to them giong "I LO VE U" while they kill me... and me responding with "FU"
13:07.03AnduinLotharya, well UniversalTranslator was the first thing i wrote.. till it was made bannable..
13:07.25Dephheh
13:08.07AnduinLotharbut that's b4 ur time if uv only been playing 6 months
13:08.17Depheh, I followed the game, even while not playing
13:08.28Dephhad friends that played it, most of my co-workers played it
13:08.36DephI just couldn't run it, or afford it
13:09.42Dephplayed every other blizz game XD -- was addicted to them all, 'cept lost vikings and WC3
13:09.54AnduinLotharwow, ArcanePartyBars has almost 1k dl.. that's pretty impressive for something that requires Sky
13:09.59Dephspent 5 yrs hooked on SC before I was done
13:10.04Dephlol
13:10.12Dephyeah, Sky is why I didn't try it
13:10.25Dephit seems like it'd be incredibly nice though
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13:11.08AnduinLotharya, well now that it's in Cosmos the amount of people that you'll pass that have it should be a bit more...
13:11.12AnduinLotharpossibly
13:11.21Dephthe people I play with's computers could handle any addon they wanted to dump in XD -- I considered trying it out... but sky keeps me from trying it
13:11.51Gellooh. Anduin on IsMounted at curse-gaming localization strings are posted for frFR and deDE
13:12.01AnduinLotharya, saw that
13:12.18Gellocool i'm going to be sending hunters your way lol
13:12.24AnduinLothar:)
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13:14.09shouryuurawr
13:14.34AnduinLotharmoo
13:14.37shouryuu:p
13:15.06shouryuuw00t we downed luci earlier :D
13:16.32DephWell, g'night all... or g'morning, or g'day or whatever it is
13:17.00AnduinLotharnight
13:17.31DephI keep wanting to change my nick, forgetting I shut down the computer I'm running trillian on XD and leave the other one on
13:19.00shouryuucould someone help me test my add-on?
13:19.33Gelloi can
13:20.21shouryuuI need you to install it
13:20.29shouryuudamn can you invite me to your guild?
13:20.37Gelloposted anywhere?
13:20.47shouryuui need to check if the names change on guild/invites/quits
13:20.57shouryuuhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/search.php?action=showresults&searchid=55393&sortby=filename&sortorder=asc
13:20.59Gellooh hmm not an officer of guild i can't
13:21.05shouryuudang
13:21.08shouryuuwell nvm :P
13:23.06Gellolottery is a cool idea
13:24.25shouryuuyeah
13:24.39shouryuuI'm afraid the names get updated as people join
13:27.26shouryuuamd I'm afraid the number of tickets other people bought gets all jumbled up
13:28.12shouryuufor example if player C has 10 tickets nad player B joins the get, I fear tha player C will have 0 tickets and B 10...
13:36.17Gellooh if you index by name it shouldn't be a problem?
13:36.51GelloLottery.Bob.tickets = 10
13:39.38shouryuuyeah but I didn't really do it that way
13:39.49shouryuui have 2 talbes, one for names and one for tickets
13:40.19shouryuuit's my first add-on so the coding is just plain ugly
13:41.26AnduinLotharsomeone wanna test the new TellTrack Slash commands for me before i push it live?
13:42.04Gelloi would but gotta run :( see ya
13:42.51shouryuuI would but I'm trying to debug my add-on...
13:55.15shouryuuStill need help anduin?
13:55.31AnduinLotharya, but i decided to change soemthing else, gimme a sec
13:56.13shouryuuok
13:56.30AnduinLotharremoving the Earth req for the dropdown
14:01.54shouryuutell me when you're ready :P
14:06.01AnduinLotharya, did that.. then decided to update the dragging to auto-correct for the crappy OnDragStart
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14:12.40shouryuuaww fudge my add-on
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14:29.11AnduinLotharhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=102
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14:35.23AnduinLotharhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2667
14:37.38Malivilo.O
14:39.55AnduinLotharwow... NotesUNeed looks great
14:40.45AnduinLotharsleep time
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15:13.03Flisher_CodingNew version of CV is out, 0.86 :)
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15:26.08elemag'day guys
15:26.23elemawhat's new on the US servers?
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15:57.42IndustrialI prefer this over foobar2000 now. http://www.musikcube.com/
15:58.22Beladonathat looks nice
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16:14.48zeegitunes ftw
16:19.03Industrialo rly? no wai!
16:19.05Industrial:D
16:23.26kergothIndustrial: i bet you can make foobar2000 act like that.. just a matter of how much work is involved :)
16:23.39Industrialkergoth: i know :> im lazy :>
16:23.46kergothhehe
16:23.46Industrialand it looks nice... asp opposed to foobar....
16:24.08kergothguh, i cant decide on a rogue build, talent wise
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16:25.29MoonWolffull combat
16:25.35MoonWolfuntill you reach 60
16:27.07kergothgood point, thats probably best for grinding
16:27.34kergothleaning towards an assassination/combat dagger build long term, with seal fate & dagger specialization
16:28.33kergothwhats peoples opinion on Hemorrage?
16:28.49MoonWolfIm doing a hemo/cold blood build at 60
16:29.08MoonWolfwell that is my current plan
16:29.09MoonWolfmy change
16:29.11MoonWolfonly lvl 41
16:29.38IndustrialMoonWolf: wich server? wanna go play together some time i can roll a char there :E:E
16:29.46kergothimp sap will probably be necessary for instances, eh
16:29.48kergothhmm
16:29.52MoonWolfDefias brotherhood EU rp-pvp server.
16:30.00Industrialdarn! im on the other rppvp
16:30.05Industrialmmk
16:30.28MoonWolfoooh, shoarma time
16:30.33MoonWolfonly i have to make it.
16:30.40kergothhmmm
16:31.05Industrialnext game i buy im gunna play on US again
16:31.07Industrial:|
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17:06.36futrtrublmorning all
17:06.42Beladonayo
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17:21.50futrtrublanyone knoew what attribute Frame:Raise() and Lower() affect?
17:21.59futrtrublknow*
17:22.24MoonWolfbrining stuff from fore to background and reverse ?
17:22.27MoonWolfguessing here
17:22.54Beladonaraises and lwoers FrameLevel
17:23.02futrtrublthanks
17:23.47Beladonawhich more or less does what MoonWolf said
17:23.50Beladonalol
17:28.54Beladonagood morning!
17:28.59Cairmorning
17:29.08Malivilmorning
17:29.14Malivilwell... afternoon where i am
17:29.15Beladona~morning
17:29.17purlGood morning!
17:29.48Cairtechnically afternoon here, too, but only by 1/2 hr, and I just woke up, soooooo ... morning! ;)
17:29.59Beladonayeah
17:30.11BeladonaGood morning in spirit
17:30.37MoonWolfmorning, sorta
17:30.56Beladonatis actually 12:30 here too
17:30.59Malivilyou live on the east coast Cair?
17:31.07Malivilcanada... right
17:31.13CairCanada, yes, Ontario
17:31.23MalivilSame timezone as me =-P
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17:35.26Beladonafinally caught up with all my compares, now I just gotta get the new interface going on wdn
17:35.33Caircool
17:36.52Malivilwow
17:37.09MalivilMCom is the only library on WoWI under the Libraries section NOT submitted by AL
17:37.34Cairto date
17:37.48Beladonayeah he is a big library whore
17:37.54grollcair what was the command to register again?
17:38.07Cair<PROTECTED>
17:38.12Cairwithout the brackets, obviously
17:38.27Beladonaand once you get registerd, to log in you have to /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <pw>
17:38.37grolloke thx
17:38.44Cairwhat he said
17:38.54Beladonaand then you have to send us cookies
17:39.03Beladonalots of cookies
17:39.06Beladonaand milk
17:39.12Cair~give a cookie to Beladona
17:39.17grollgot no cookies :P
17:39.21Beladonalol
17:39.25Beladona~cookie Cair
17:39.35Cairlol
17:39.38Beladonauhh
17:39.50Cair~give Beladona a cookie
17:39.52purlACTION gives Beladona a home-baked sugar cookie to cheer him up.
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17:39.57Cairthere we go
17:40.00Beladonahehe
17:40.01groll:D
17:40.10grolland cair pm on it's way :D
17:40.52Malivilif oyu are lazy like me
17:40.59MalivilYou can also do /ns id password to login
17:41.09Beladonadoesn't work in every client
17:41.15Beladonaits a local alias to each client
17:41.17MalivilWorks in mIRC
17:41.27Cairdoesn't work in Gaim
17:41.32MalivilAnd that's what he is using
17:41.51Beladonadidn't know what he was using
17:41.58Beladonaso I went for the generic =P
17:42.00MalivilYou can go to info and click version
17:42.06MalivilYea, thats always better
17:42.10MalivilI was just giving a shortcut
17:51.47Cair~today
17:51.48purlSaturday is the day that sucks the least!
17:51.55kergoth~botsnack
17:51.56purlkergoth: thanks
18:03.41Tekkub<PROTECTED>
18:04.22Tekkub"I want to make a mod that does <vague description> but I can't find any other mods that do something similar.  Tell me how to do it"
18:04.37Tekkubperhaps there's a reason there's no "similar" mods?
18:04.59Cairlol, where is this Tekkub?
18:05.08Tekkubhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=274094&s=new&tmp=1#new
18:05.16TekkubI tried to answer "nicely"
18:06.06Tekkubsorry, if you're just starting the best path is hacking existing mods to pieces, not trying to build a new frame that it seems noone else has tried to do, from scratch.
18:06.45Cair*nod*
18:07.31CairI think you did a good job of answering nicely
18:08.06Tekkubbah I wanted to just tell him that <vague idea> sounds stupid
18:08.13Cairheheh
18:09.29Tekkubare... bastard people with broken BattleMaps
18:09.57Tekkubwe need to make slouken lern2code
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18:28.43cladhairemorning
18:28.52Cairhey cladhaire :)
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18:32.16MalivilTekkub == Bear?
18:33.05Cairaye
18:34.01MalivilI r teh shmart
18:34.07Cairheh
18:34.36cladhaireHow are you today Cair?
18:34.42Cairnot bad
18:35.06cladhairegood good
18:35.12Cairself?
18:36.17Cairoops, just looked at clock, gotta run for a while, back later on
18:36.21Cairhave fun :)
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18:52.36Verlainerawr
18:54.56Verlaineno rawr?
18:54.57Verlainefine
19:00.17futrtrublrawr
19:00.29MoonWolfrwar
19:00.30futrtrublthere. happy?
19:01.31Verlaine:P
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19:29.28futrtrublso how about that local sports team?
19:30.02Beladonaerro 232, local is UNDEFINED
19:30.05Beladonahehe
19:31.40futrtrubl;']
19:32.59futrtrubl~local
19:33.00purlsomebody said local was like, is your system local to you?  Can you physically touch it from where you're sitting, or maybe by going to another room?  As opposed, say, to being 1500km from you, accessible only via air and sea (combined) travel, and installed in a restricted-access facility?  This matters if we, say, try to restart your system and it doesn't.
19:35.27futrtrubldo I have o give a frame type element a anchor in the xml, or can I do it later in lua?
19:35.45futrtrublwithout first giving it one inxml that is
19:37.22cladhaireYou can anchor it later
19:37.43cladhaireWhat I've been doing (for 1.9) is no anchors, and hidden.. then I anchor them and show them later on in the LUA
19:38.03cladhairearound PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD or VARIABLES_LOADED
19:38.10cladhaire(but a lot of my frames are conditional)
19:38.50Beladonaless memory usage that way
19:39.08cladhaire*nod*
19:39.17cladhaireits sexy.. and makes the XML horribly pretty
19:39.32Beladonalol
19:40.14cladhaire<!-- template blah blah blah -->
19:40.14cladhaire<button name="poophead" inherits="omgtemplate">
19:40.15cladhaireand thats it.
19:40.21cladhaireyou setscript() and setpoint() later =)
19:42.30futrtrublwhy for 1.9?
19:42.46cladhaireThere are layout optimizations in 1.9 that make things load very quickly if you use hidden=true
19:42.53futrtrublahh, right
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19:47.24cladhaireMorning/Afternoon Iriel
19:49.07IrielHey - still morning for 11 minutes
20:16.45AnduinLotharmmm, slou fixed CancelTrackingBuff, that was quick
20:16.56shouryuurrawr
20:17.46cladhairehe typically jumps on the big ones quickly =)
20:18.19AnduinLotharya, i'm pretty surpeised that bug lasted a year..
20:19.30shouryuuanyone know some good jazz I could listen too?
20:19.45AnduinLothartake5
20:20.06shouryuudang I forgot to buy a CD while I was shopping this afternoon
20:20.07shouryuustudpid me
20:20.35shouryuuI did buy some Poe though :P
20:20.38shouryuu<3 Poe
20:21.29shouryuudid I ever express my love for old english?
20:21.30shouryuuif not
20:21.37shouryuuold english > modern english
20:21.39shouryuurawr
20:22.02shouryuuanduin still need to test that add-on?
20:22.40AnduinLotharhttp://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=102
20:23.24AnduinLotharsure, tell me if u have any problems with slash commands or the right-click menu
20:26.09AnduinLotharalso: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2776 if you want to test
20:37.29Tekkub*yarn*
20:47.30Malivilshouryuu, if old english is better why don't you speak it?
20:54.21futrtrubldon't know about old English but I love middle English
20:55.49futrtrublthat's the English of Chaucer
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21:12.44shouryuuffuucc.............. hell
21:12.44Malivilin your honest opinion
21:12.51Malivilis Vent fetter than Teamspeak?
21:12.57shouryuusame difference
21:13.25shouryuui get d/c in th middle of farming
21:13.28shouryuugreaattt
21:14.01shouryuui am dead
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21:34.38Malivilit doesn't really matter, Vent has a hard-coded 8 user limit for the free version
21:34.40Malivilso screw it
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22:05.30Guillotinerawr
22:06.10Guillotinegryphen: onos i escared o hte rawr! i needs a huggle!
22:12.32Guillotineso is cair having a hangover?
22:12.53Nomad_Wandererpurl, hangover?
22:12.54purlhangover is probably that feeling that you never ever want another drink again in your life. It usually lasts for two days when a friend suggests a trip down the pub
22:13.03Guillotinehehe
22:13.35Guillotinepurl, cair?
22:13.42Guillotinepurl, cairenn?
22:13.44purlextra, extra, read all about it, cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface.com, also EQInterface, EQ2Interface and VGInterface
22:13.55Guillotinedoes she have a hangover though?
22:14.12Guillotinegeez. you're no use. can't even tell us if someone has a hangover...
22:15.12GuillotineCAIR. DO YOU HAVE A HANGOVER? ARE LOUD NOISES BOTHERING YOU?!?!? WHAT ABOUT BRIGHT LIGHTS? BOY, WOULDN'T IT BE ANNOYING IF SOMEONE YELLED AT YOU ASKING IF YOU HAD A HANGOVER?
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22:22.39shouryuuTo die: to sleep;
22:22.40shouryuuNo more; and by a sleep to say we end
22:22.40shouryuuThe heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
22:22.40shouryuuThat flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
22:22.40shouryuuDevoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep;
22:22.40shouryuuTo sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
22:23.09shouryuuay, there's the rub...
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22:29.49MentalPower~hail slouken
22:29.50purlACTION bows down to slouken and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
22:30.56futrtrublafternoon Slouken
22:31.22krkaslouken, here's a question for you: will blizzard upgrade the LUA engine when new versions become available or stay with the current version (don't fix if it aint broken)?
22:32.38futrtrublhe's said they won't upgrade unless they are given a compelling reason
22:32.46sloukenyeah
22:33.03sloukenwe'll always evaluate it, but we won't upgrade unless there's an overwhelming reason to do so.
22:34.18krkathanks for the response!
22:34.23futrtrublbah I was going to make a joke about converting WoW to VB...
22:34.28shouryuulol
22:34.32shouryuuthat thread is getting old
22:34.45sloukenso old
22:34.51IrielI'm hoping it dies a proper death soon
22:34.52sloukennobody actually cared about the real answer
22:34.54shouryuuargghh le lag is killing me
22:34.59shouryuuyeah lol
22:35.03IrielWell, i think those who cared already knew it
22:35.10krkaI want WoW to use Haskell instead!
22:35.34Nomad_WandererEiffel!
22:35.36krkaeveryone knows that WoW is missing out on all the haskell developers
22:35.50sloukenI thought piet was a cool comment
22:35.55sloukenI'd never heard of that before
22:36.36kergothi wouldnt see lua 5.1 having an overwhelming reason, just some nice ones.  the changes to the varargs would help performance of addons of course, but people can work around it, even if the workarounds are ugly :)
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22:37.42krkaomg piet looks cool
22:37.51krkaprogramming by drawing, genious
22:38.03shouryuuwhat's piet?
22:38.14krkathe major benefit of lua 5.1 seems to be the GC
22:38.44Nomad_WandererIs it union garbage collection?
22:39.04kergothkrka: well, most of addons gc problems today is due to all the tables created by vararg functions and then thrown out, in critical paths
22:39.13IrielNomad_Wanderer : Worried they'll go out on strike? 8-)
22:39.20Nomad_WandererHeh
22:39.21kergothhttp://pastebin.ca/32274 <- from the random lua fun department... a functable iterator :)
22:39.29Irielkergoth : I'm not sure i'd agree with that, I odnt think THAT many addon suse varags
22:39.37krkawell, I am willing to bet that strings and temporary tables are a big issue too
22:39.51IrielTemporary tables are usually the culprit
22:39.56krkaespecially addons that produce a lot of feedback in form of strings should create garbage
22:40.01kergothstrings? i find it highly unlikely that they're a problem
22:40.07kergothlua is pretty smart about them
22:40.10Irielunique' strings aren't as common as you'd think (Or at least, they weren't as common as I thought)
22:40.26kergothlua knows that "foo" .. "bar" is the same object as "foobar"
22:40.27kergothfor example
22:40.36krkaaddons that report various stuff each frame produces a lot of unique strings
22:40.51krkayes, I know that kergoth :)
22:41.25kergothstrings also have very little overhead.  the entirety of most of those strings you mention is less than just the /overhead/ of a table
22:41.55sloukenOkay guys, have fun...
22:42.04AnduinLotharheh, u scared him off
22:42.04kergoth:)
22:42.10slouken:)
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22:42.30krkanot an idler then
22:42.39AnduinLotharno, he's  not
22:43.08AnduinLotharhe prolly enjoys being productive
22:43.23kergothsilly people and their "productivity"
22:43.26krkasilly indeed
22:43.28kergoth~productivity
22:43.29purlyay! i mean.. boo.
22:43.44shouryuu~sloth
22:43.50kergoth~work
22:43.51purlit has been said that work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
22:43.53shouryuuman he really doesn't like me
22:45.50IrielI dont think he necessarily wants to 'talk work' here anyway
22:46.57kergoththis is true.  we werent hassling him about it though, honest :)
22:50.20shouryuui was talking about purl (in case of confusion)
22:50.33shouryuuanyone have a nice book I can read?
22:50.50shouryuuI'm really dry on books right now and don't know what I could read...
22:50.57Nomad_WandererThe Diamond Age
22:51.13Nomad_WandererExcellent Book
22:51.23Irielit gets a bit silly at the end
22:51.29Irielbut it's good most of the way through
22:53.20AnduinLotharmmm Mr and Mrs Smith is fun in my own personal surround sound studio
22:53.55AnduinLothar"Ask the sex question."
22:54.46AnduinLotharLast Samurai has good suround too. feels like it's raining at one point
22:56.24Beladonanow apply that surround to your computer, with a game that has super realistic sound effects
22:56.39AnduinLotharwell it's already on my compy
22:56.48Beladonamy wife threatens to kill me sometimes
22:57.02AnduinLothararen't any great surround games that i can find tho. some of the fps are good
22:57.03Beladonashe says my office sounds like WW2
22:57.31AnduinLotharJedi Academy has surround and UT2k4
22:57.37Beladonayeah
22:57.47Beladonalot of fps games support it
22:57.51AnduinLothari don't play the war sims tho
22:58.00BeladonaBF2 is great
22:58.09AnduinLotharya, i've heard
22:58.19AnduinLotharthey just dont hold me for long
22:58.19Beladonathe ranking system rocks
22:58.42AnduinLotharya, i'm not a pvp lover. i like me some good pve with a storyline
22:58.53IrielBF2's pretty fun, yeah
22:59.41AnduinLotharmy 10" sub is pretty good for this space. too bad i can't have it on after 10pm... neighbors are earlybirds, sucks
23:00.58Beladonahere is an example of the BF2 ranking system
23:00.59Beladonahttp://bf2s.com/player/43596155/
23:01.23AnduinLotharmy uncle has a great basement theater, i got his 10" when he upped to a 12". but his room's the wrong shape, not deep enough
23:04.49Guillotineshouryuu: read the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan
23:05.48TainAck no!
23:05.52TainDon't condemn someone like that.
23:06.19Guillotinehuh?
23:07.04Guillotinehey... slouken was here
23:07.04Guillotineand I was afk :(
23:07.04TainThat's so mean to tell someone that's a series to read.
23:07.04kergothlol
23:07.07TainIt isn't a series.
23:07.09TainIt's a black hole.
23:07.17Guillotineas in it sucks you in?
23:07.18Guillotineyes
23:07.20TainA black hole that no soul can escape from.
23:07.28Guillotinebut its so awesome :D
23:07.30Tain(Nor literary competance.)
23:07.45TainIt's shit wiped on pages that happened to form words once in a while.
23:07.58kergoththe plot is cool, the writing is annoying as hell
23:08.04TainThe plot was cool.
23:08.07TainSeventeen books ago.
23:08.13MoonWolfwhat is the plot ?
23:08.17kergothget them to read the first book and stop there.  that would work
23:08.27MoonWolfSee, i never read anything wheel of time.
23:08.38TainDon't start now, MoonWolf.
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23:08.48MoonWolfSimply tell me the plot
23:08.51kergothTain: indeed
23:08.54Tainsimply?
23:08.55MoonWolfgenerally
23:08.59TainThere is no simply.
23:09.08TainThat's not trying to be funny.  It's the truth.
23:09.24MoonWolfslightly less simply
23:09.25Guillotineyup. tain is right
23:09.27TainActually, it does follow generic fantasy forumula.
23:09.42TainReluctant hero starts as a lowly farmer to try to save the world.
23:09.43AnduinLotharis it like trying to summarize teh usual suspects?
23:09.54Guillotinehave you guys read the new one? knife of dreams? it goes back to the awesomeness of the first couple books :D
23:10.05TainLies!
23:10.10TainYou have been assimilated.
23:10.14Beladonago to http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?u=12439 and read my signature. Specifically about fact & opinion. Yeah, I think that is what I was thinking just now....
23:10.50Guillotinehehe. dwarves look funny in devout
23:10.51MoonWolfone of my torrents has been stuck on 99.72% for a whole day now.
23:10.57MoonWolfSeed the damn last .3%
23:11.17TainRead "A Song of Fire and Ice" instead.
23:11.22Guillotine./\___/\
23:11.26Guillotine.\  0 0  /
23:11.36Guillotine..\ ' /
23:11.37kergothGuillotine: i agree to a certain extent, the new one is pretty good
23:12.07Beladonanot a series really, but The Highwayman is good. but then again most R.A. Salvatore stuff is good
23:12.19MoonWolfany readers of the Drenai Chronicals here ?
23:12.46Guillotineno
23:12.54TainNope, but I was just about to start on the latest, "A Series of Unfortunate Events" book.
23:13.05Guillotineis that series good?
23:13.14MoonWolfWell, i think it is.
23:13.32kergothbetter than most of them
23:13.32Guillotinemaybe ill have to try it
23:13.36kergothgeorge r.r. martin is great
23:13.42Guillotinei love george r.r. martin
23:13.47Guillotinegame of thrones :D
23:14.04Guillotineand the whole fire and ice series
23:14.12MoonWolfwhy must good fanatsy books be so hard to get in this godforsaken country
23:14.27TainBecause they sell no matter what is inside them.
23:14.31Guillotinelol
23:14.35kergothGuillotine: read the new one?
23:14.35kergothi want the next half :\
23:14.44TainSo publishers will push out everything they can.
23:14.47Guillotinekergoth: nah. i'm still on the second. lol
23:14.50TainThe market is flooded with crap.
23:15.02Guillotinelike harry potter
23:15.05Guillotine:)
23:15.09TainAnd I declare my opinion on that subject to be fact.
23:15.30Guillotineactually, the harry potter books are pretty good. its the movies that suck
23:15.45MoonWolfyeah,  i have harry potter books.
23:15.47MoonWolfand i like them
23:15.58TainThe books are at least entertaining.
23:15.59kergothGuillotine: the new book is half a book.  instead of covering a shorter time period to get things to fit into one book, he broke it up by character. we only find out what happens to half the characters during this time period.  the next book covers the others :\
23:15.59kergothweird appraoch
23:16.14AnduinLotharbeen readin gub since jr high when my jr high librarian got um of amazon uk
23:16.32krkaspeaking of books, I recommend all books by Robin Hobb
23:16.33AnduinLotharhp that is
23:16.48MoonWolfkrka i agree
23:17.01GuillotineSpider Robinson is awesome too :)
23:17.33MoonWolfeverybody pick up royal assasin RIGHT NOW!
23:17.48MoonWolfat least i think  that is the english title
23:18.12MoonWolfor was that the second book of the first 3...
23:18.14TainI'm lucky, my parents gave me the Hobbit when I was ... hell I don't know, as soon as I was reading "real" books.
23:18.36TainI really do wish people could read The Lord of the Rings as their first fantasy series, it should be mandatory.
23:19.01TainWhen you go back and try to read it after having been tainted by everything that's come since people don't always appreciate it as much.
23:19.50MoonWolfbut , you wont fully understand LOTR when you are at least what 16 17
23:19.59MoonWolfif even
23:20.45BeladonaI read LOTR when I was in 6th grade
23:20.52AnduinLothari read it young, it's great, but honestly some of those descriptive sequences are more exersizes in submersion. they tend to make you lose focus if you aren't already drawn in.
23:20.52krkaFarseer Trilogy FTW
23:21.36MoonWolfThe Tawny man Trilogy more FTW
23:21.38TainI read it in 4th grade. :/
23:21.47Tain(The first time.)
23:22.09TainUsing FTW  literacy FTL!  Woo!
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23:23.02Beladonagod
23:23.21MoonWolfReading Fantasy, check. Computers, check. Now we only need someone to make a starwars/startrek reference and we are truely geek
23:23.41AnduinLothari have all 7 seasons of voyager on my hd
23:23.46Beladonasomeone uploaded a compilation to wowi that I really don't want to approve, but I can't find anything overly wrong with it except the fact he employs a batch file to delete savedvars in your game directory
23:23.51Tekkubquiet humon!
23:24.07krkashaman's crossing ftw
23:24.15AnduinLotharwhat saved vars?
23:24.16MoonWolfPut a warning about that in the discription ?
23:24.16Tekkubuh... don't approve it till he removes that then
23:24.21TainI wouldn't approve it, Beladona.
23:24.25TainPersonally speaking.
23:24.30Tekkubdeleting files is BAD!
23:24.31Beladonawell
23:24.34TekkubFIRE BAD!
23:24.39Beladonawe usually don't approve self executing scripts
23:24.43krkauhm... still have to execute the batch file manually?
23:24.44Beladonaunless we know the person well
23:24.45TainI do think it's a nice idea for him to try to automate.
23:24.53Irielhe may not know any better
23:25.00AnduinLotharbatch ~= exe
23:25.03TainBut he could just say, "Delete your blah blah"
23:25.03Irielyou should tell him what he'd need to change to make it approvable
23:25.17Tekkubnot knowing better seems somewhat common with addon authors
23:25.17Beladonagona confer with Ciar first
23:25.21BeladonaCair*
23:25.27Tekkuband even moreso with compalationers
23:25.36TainIs that a word?
23:25.39TainIf not it should be.
23:25.46AnduinLotharshould make it a python script and just upload the source. that solves most problems
23:25.59IrielAnduinLothar : Except that nobody can run it then
23:26.10TainThat solves... what?  Ow my brain just went *ping*
23:26.14AnduinLotharall the cool peopl ecan
23:26.21AnduinLothar;)
23:26.35BeladonaI am not a fan of compilations
23:26.38Beladona=\
23:26.58TainMe neither Beladona, but a lot of people are since they don't have to know any more than to install one thing.
23:26.59AnduinLotharit's not my fault stupid windows doesn't come with basic programming language support
23:27.04TainConvenience.
23:27.23krkaeven old dos had builtin qbasic :)
23:27.26Beladonamy problem is that any changes they have made can't be supported by the original mod author
23:27.44Beladonaand compilations are usually last to update after a patch
23:28.00TainI know, Beladona.  And I agree.
23:28.03AnduinLotharpython is cross platform and you have the source. you can't really go wrong except that you have to have python to execute it
23:28.19TainIt doesn't change the fact that people en masse will do the easiest thing.
23:28.22BeladonaAnduin: Check out Monad
23:28.32BeladonaVista will have support for more advanced scripting
23:28.35TainSo are a lot of things, Anduin.  Thankfully there's choice.
23:28.42Beladonasimilar to how the Mac does it
23:28.58AnduinLotharu mean similar to how OS 9 did it
23:29.01Tekkubyou know... my own stupid opinion on compiltions
23:29.04Beladonaright
23:29.10AnduinLotharhave you tried Automator?
23:29.14Tekkubthey should be handled by the mod site
23:29.14TainActually it's kind of funny now that I think about it.
23:29.34Beladonathere is a downloadable beta of monad that works on xp
23:29.34TekkubI.E. you define what mods are in it and the site grabs the lastest of everything
23:29.40TainLinux doesn't come with any basic programming support at all.
23:29.52AnduinLotharAutomator is a godsend for repetitive tasks. it's like auto-applescripting on steroids
23:29.52Tekkubbut then, I hate compilation
23:29.53MoonWolfthe kernal no
23:29.59MoonWolfany decent distro YES!
23:30.15TainThe only reason you assume it does is because someone put it into a distro themself.
23:30.17IrielEvery unix system i've been near comes with a shell and usually awk
23:30.25IrielYou can do quite a lot with a shell
23:30.27TainBut if it's not there already then you still have to install it yourself.
23:30.32TainYou can do quite a lot with cmd.com too.
23:30.34Beladona<PROTECTED>
23:30.36TainNOt quite as much as with sh
23:30.44Tain(or csh, bash, etc.etc.)
23:30.47kergothmost distributions include development tools out of the box.
23:30.50Beladonanot sure I would call cmd doing alot
23:30.55Beladona=\
23:31.09TainI guess that's the whole opinion vs fact thing again. ;)
23:31.22IrielI dunno /bin/sh has always seemed to be leaps and bounds more powerful than cmd.com
23:31.26AnduinLotharMonad is made by M$?
23:31.31Beladonaof course
23:31.36kergothit is
23:31.40TainMonad is the next generation command line environment for Vista.
23:31.45BeladonaVista is more or less M$ trying to catch up to Apple
23:31.46AnduinLotharso how is that betetr than python?
23:31.52TainWho said better?
23:31.55Tekkub*sigh* why oh why can't people read the damn forum FAQ...
23:32.11Beladonawhats wrong Tekkub?
23:32.15Tekkubif I see another "I need a /wait" I'm gotta kill a kitten
23:32.22AnduinLothari thought u were saying to use Monad instead of python for executables. guess i misunderstood
23:32.28Tekkubanywho
23:32.29TainIf Vista was Microsoft trying to catch up to Apple they'd be changing their entire environment to different archetectures.
23:32.31Tekkubnappytime
23:32.40TainTwice in a few years.
23:32.40Beladonanah, Monad repolaces the current psuedo-dos that xp still uses
23:32.47AnduinLotharah, ok
23:32.54Beladonaits gives Vista more of a shell like Unix based systems and Apple has
23:32.57AnduinLotharbasicly applescript catchup
23:33.07AnduinLotharoh?
23:33.14TainAllowing direct access to the .NET libraries from a command prompt.
23:33.18AnduinLotharso commandline rather than scripting app?
23:33.21MoonWolfI really truely think, that i MS had the guts to totally start from completea and utter scratch and forget about backwards compatiblily it would pay off.
23:33.23Beladonaboth
23:33.40AnduinLotharthey dont
23:33.52AnduinLotharapple did and it payed off
23:33.55TainTheir entire business model and income from the last twenty years or so would disagree with you, MoonWolf.
23:33.58Irielbut if they did that they'd lose their market advantage from continuity
23:34.05AnduinLotharbut then they also have an 'open' core
23:34.06IrielAnd really that's all that's keeping them as a 'leader'
23:34.17IrielApple got away with it because their market share was insignificant
23:34.18BeladonaApple has a lot more originality than M$ but it is still based on Unix
23:34.19TainApple had to in order to avoid becoming even more irrelevant.
23:34.20Irielthey had nothing to lose
23:34.25MoonWolftrue
23:34.40MoonWolfbut microsoft can force change.
23:34.48AnduinLotharsame reason they're switching to intel but they're making good progress
23:34.54MoonWolfif they change then you need new software, ms software or othe software.
23:35.01MoonWolfmost will still go with ms.
23:35.22IrielThink about it, if MS made a huge change, threw everything away, and said 'Trust us', people might start asing 'why?
23:35.46MoonWolfreally, do you think so iriel.
23:35.49IrielThey've gotten where they are partly by insisting that staying with what they have is better than switching to something else
23:35.55AnduinLotharrumor has it apple's planning on taking over the living room too. they have a much better foothold that M$ media center
23:36.00TainMS made their bed, now they have to lay in it.
23:36.09TainOf course their bed is made of solid gold lined with hundred dollar bills.
23:36.15TainSo it's probably still comfortable no matter what.
23:36.24BeladonaI agree with Iriel. But think about this. Wouldn't we all LIKE people to start asking "why?:
23:36.29Beladonalol
23:36.37IrielI'm not saying it would be a bad thing for the world
23:36.45MoonWolfit would be bad fo MS
23:36.53IrielIt just wouldn't be consistent with microsoft's goal of making as much money as they can of as many people as possible
23:36.54Beladonaaye, but MS isn't that stupid
23:37.08AnduinLotharok, so anyway. is there something better than a batch and a python script to give people for automation that's cross platform?
23:37.10TainI am too jaded to dare to believe that people in general would start thinking for themselves.
23:37.18IrielGood software is a means to that end, when it's going to be more effective than bad software everyone's locked into using
23:37.39MoonWolfPerl script!
23:37.48Beladonawhen it comes to addons
23:37.53BeladonaI don't like to see scripts
23:38.05Beladonawould rather the user take the role of deleting files
23:38.08CodayusMoonWolf: Wait, how is that better than a python script, exactly?  :-)
23:38.17TainHell I barely like looking at the contents of peoples addons, never mind additional scripts.
23:38.32MoonWolf<inster random perl vs python argument>
23:38.32Beladonaautomating things just furthers the "stupid user" issue we all know too well
23:38.36AnduinLotharright, but the idea is that you could if u wanted to
23:38.52MoonWolfJava appliaction if you really want to, not better. but hey.
23:38.53IrielThe point of this discussion is that NO SCRIPT is better than ANY SCRIPT
23:39.03TainFor addons, absolutely.
23:39.03AnduinLotharI dont believe so
23:39.06IrielFor the context of an addon doing something automated, .BAT _IS_ better than any alternative
23:39.10IrielBecause EVERYONE HAS IT
23:39.18Beladonaaye
23:39.19MoonWolfnot true
23:39.26MoonWolfdo mac users have it ?
23:39.28AnduinLothari dont
23:39.29TainNo.
23:39.30BeladonaCair
23:39.38TainThat's why it has to be none. In my humble opinion.
23:39.39Beladonacan you look at the file queue?
23:39.42IrielAlright, you have me there, because ALMOST everyone has it
23:39.43Beladonaleft a note for you
23:39.56TainCross platformonality!
23:40.00MoonWolfJava.
23:40.04MoonWolfor
23:40.05MoonWolf.net
23:40.08kergothi dont have it, and i cant run .bat files at all
23:40.13kergothcant run them in cedega
23:40.22MoonWolfthe crossplatform programmin language that only runs on windows platforms
23:40.23TainThere's no .net in OSX.
23:40.23CodayusBesides, .bat files use the worst...scripting...language...EVER.  :-(  (Speaking of which, does it even have a name?)
23:40.26MoonWolfand a bad linux port
23:40.39kergothsince you cant run .com files
23:40.39kergoth:P
23:40.56MoonWolfits called batch Codayus
23:41.04TainShouldn't be using .BAT anyway.  Should be using .CMD files. :)
23:41.11IrielAlright, distribute a .sh version too, the point remains the same.
23:41.16AnduinLotharhow is java's cross platform file system navigation these days?
23:41.29CodayusMoonWolf: Hmm, I knew that's what .bat was short for...
23:41.33IrielThe nicer languages, like python, java, etc,are great and all but they present a rather annoying hurdle
23:41.33Beladonathere really isn't a big differend in CMD and BAT
23:41.37IrielAnduinLothar : it's been just fine for many years
23:41.43CodayusAnduinLothar: I've seen some goot bittorrent clients written in Java.  It's got to be pretty good.
23:41.54TainThe difference is the default interpreter (well, used to be)
23:42.13MoonWolfokay new project, Crossplatform installer systems
23:42.15TainWindows would run command.com for .bat files to keep backwards compatibility full, and cmd.exe for .CMD files.  On NT.
23:42.15IrielThe only challenge with java cross platform file system navigation is if the developer doesn't understand
23:42.23Beladonaall that changes are a few lesser known internal commands becoming external
23:42.42TainCrossplatform installer system?  Easy.  Create multiple installs and let people run the one for their system.
23:42.45AnduinLotharok, so is there an easy way to write java scripts or do i have to battle with the whole OO thing when i really just want to script?
23:42.58CodayusThat'd be option B, I believe.
23:43.24MoonWolfAndiun, it was a joke. you would have to support 25% of the people with installing the java runtime to begin with.
23:43.29CairBeladona: migraine, brain not working, will try to figure out what you are talking about later, after meds kick in
23:43.42Beladonakk
23:43.49AnduinLothardo you think more people have python or java?
23:43.51Beladonacan explain it in private later, when you are ready
23:43.55Beladonajust msg me
23:44.15IrielMore people probably have java
23:44.25Irielwhether they're aware of it or not
23:44.29Irielwell, that's another thing entirely
23:44.37AnduinLothari take it xp doesn't come with it pre installed
23:44.39MoonWolfjava, but do you really want to send along intermediate bytecode that is not much better then executables
23:45.03Beladonano XP had that problem with Sun a while back
23:45.13CodayusIdeally you'd use java to make platform dependent executables.  But then you have trust issues with executables...
23:45.13Beladonaso now you have to download the java VM
23:45.14AnduinLotharah
23:45.18TainXP comes with the MSJVM, but I think it only functions as part of the Internet Explorer environment.
23:45.20IrielOn the flip side, it's easier to send java source and an ant build file than it is executable source
23:45.24AnduinLotharya, i've heard thats a pain
23:45.31CodayusAnd yeah, the installed base of the java VM isn't 100% on windows.  Higher than perl or python though.  :-)
23:45.32Irielin C or whatever
23:45.40TainI don't think MSJVM can execute java files on its own.  But again I don't know that for sure, just never seen it happen.
23:45.43AnduinLotharok, well i'll stick to python so u dont have to compile
23:46.28IrielThe real solution is, write in whichever platform you can get the job done better in
23:46.34Irieland worry about support later 8-)
23:46.36AnduinLotharnever heard anyone complaina bout not wanting to isntall python, only about not having it and complainign about downloading a dep
23:46.42Beladonathe limited java functions of ie doesn't extend to websites. If you bought xp today and installed it, you would need to download the javaVM or else java wouldn't work
23:46.48Codayus*nod*
23:47.14Beladonayou usually get prompted though
23:47.51CodayusI've never tried to use java in ie, so I wouldn't know.
23:48.06TainThat's not 100% true, Beladona.  The MSJVM does run java code and is installed by default with XP.  It doesn't run all Java code by any means, and that's what the lawsuits between MS and Sun were about.
23:48.07BeladonaI only do because I have to support employees on windows platforms
23:48.11Beladonabut I use firefox
23:48.12MoonWolfI never trie to use ie
23:48.17CodayusOn a fresh install of XP, I use IE to A.) Visit Windows Update, and B.) Download Firefox.  :-D
23:48.43BeladonaTain, only older version of XP had it
23:48.47AnduinLotharnever did liek the way xp uses ie to update..
23:48.49Beladonathey were forced to remove it
23:49.23AnduinLothari like that OS X has a sepperate updater app and doesn't require u to use safari
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23:50.01BeladonaI would get rid of windows if I could
23:50.02AnduinLotharjust seems like a good way to introduce vulnerabilities into a browser
23:50.57TainA seperate updater app has to worry about the same vulnerabilities as being possible.  It's more a case of how the update system is created than the vehicle it uses to download.
23:51.00AnduinLothar'hey lets require people to update by automatic instillation through a public interface application
23:51.53Beladonanot if the separate updater is segmented so taht it cannot run scripts that would otherwise plague a browser
23:52.30AnduinLotharright, but i'm saying people use browsers a Lot. and not so much the updater. which means they're 20x more liekly to run into something that takes advantage of it's vulnerabilitys
23:52.49Beladona~party
23:52.50purlWoohoo! Bot on the loose!
23:53.40Nomad_WandererHey.. Can you guys help me convert a lua snippet to something that can fit into a macro? The lua is here, it's about 5 lines.  http://pastebin.com/447778
23:55.39Nomad_WandererI don't understand the constraints of /script
23:57.20krkajust make it all on one line
23:58.15Iriellocal N,G,n,o,g=GetNumRaidMembers()G=GuildInfo()for i=1,N do n=GetRaidRosterInfo(i)g=GetGuildInfo(n)if(g~=G)then UninviteFromRaid(i)end end
23:58.18Osagasuyep
23:58.22IrielI think that'd work
23:58.22krkawhat does this do btw? for i = 1, 0?
23:58.31Irielkrka: nothing
23:58.41krkabehaves nicely then, good
23:59.45Irielyou'd need i=1,0,-1 to go backwards

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