| 00:00.08 | krka | my suggestion: /script for i=1, GetNumRaidMembers() do if GetGuildInfo(GetRaidRosterInfo(i)) ~= ourGuildName then UninviteFromRaid(i) end end |
| 00:00.58 | Iriel | I should have moved the GetNumRaidMembers to the for loop in mine, it'd be a bit shorter |
| 00:01.08 | krka | I'm assuming that the script wasn't supposed to use "name" as parameter |
| 00:01.13 | AnduinLothar | if you want to call it when there's a possibility of not being in a raid: /script local n=GetNumRaidMembers();if(n>0)then for i=1,n do if(GetGuildInfo(GetRaidRosterInfo(i))~=ourGuildName)then UninviteFromRaid(i);end end end |
| 00:01.40 | krka | what is the difference? |
| 00:01.54 | AnduinLothar | good point |
| 00:01.57 | AnduinLothar | my bad |
| 00:02.23 | AnduinLothar | for i=1, 0 do does nothing as intended |
| 00:02.38 | Iriel | Actually, that's wrong anyway |
| 00:02.47 | Iriel | It shoul dbe GetGuildInfo("raid"..i) |
| 00:02.51 | Iriel | We dont even need GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 00:03.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | hmmm... huh? |
| 00:03.12 | AnduinLothar | true |
| 00:03.27 | AnduinLothar | just use the raidIDs |
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| 00:04.07 | Nomad_Wanderer | Oh, the raid ID's are acceptable units? |
| 00:04.32 | Nomad_Wanderer | I thought I needed to pass in a name. Like it says here : local guildName, guildRankName, guildRankIndex = GetGuildInfo("player"); |
| 00:04.32 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 00:04.42 | Iriel | for i=1,GetNumRaidMembers()do if GetGuildInfo("raid"..i)~=GetGuildInfo("player")then UninviteFromRaid(i)end end |
| 00:04.44 | AnduinLothar | "player" is a unitID |
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| 00:04.57 | Iriel | What AnduinLothar just said. |
| 00:05.36 | Nomad_Wanderer | That looks cleaner.. If I'm reading that correctly, it removes people from the raid that are not in the same guild as the caller of the script. |
| 00:05.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is that what it does? |
| 00:05.46 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 00:05.46 | krka | yes |
| 00:05.59 | Nomad_Wanderer | That's useful for BG's.. |
| 00:06.06 | Nomad_Wanderer | you guys might want to have it too.. |
| 00:06.20 | Iriel | It's a bit rude |
| 00:06.22 | Iriel | isn't it? |
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| 00:06.45 | Iriel | Nothing says "this guild is full of assholes" like that kind of thing |
| 00:06.50 | AnduinLothar | be counter productive to team work is would seem |
| 00:07.16 | Nomad_Wanderer | Nope, we say something after the match about thanks for the group, and then say Dropping Raid... |
| 00:07.24 | Iriel | Ah, so it's AFTER the BG |
| 00:07.25 | Beladona | <- silently laughing ass off |
| 00:07.27 | Iriel | That's not so bad |
| 00:07.33 | Tain | Sounds like a good idea to me. |
| 00:07.52 | Nomad_Wanderer | OF course it's AFTER :) |
| 00:07.58 | Iriel | Well, you didn't SAY that! |
| 00:08.13 | Nomad_Wanderer | hehehe that is funny! |
| 00:08.18 | Beladona | after, but it can always be used during, for those times when being an asshole is ok |
| 00:08.29 | Iriel | and given the rabid spew of half the guild-crazies in the forums, i wouldn't jump to that conclusion 8-) |
| 00:08.30 | Nomad_Wanderer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm.. that didn't work right.. it deinvited everyone.. :) |
| 00:12.17 | Beladona | lol |
| 00:13.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | including me :) |
| 00:13.26 | Nomad_Wanderer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:14.22 | Beladona | you know |
| 00:14.36 | Beladona | doing xsl tranforms on complex xml data an be a real biotch |
| 00:14.36 | Tain | haha you know for my own amusement I hope you're testing this during a live raid. ;) |
| 00:14.53 | cladhaire | They shouldn't.. they'd be different tables, with the same information imo |
| 00:14.55 | AnduinLothar | ya, that will check all of the returned attributes |
| 00:15.00 | AnduinLothar | u only want the firts one |
| 00:15.14 | cladhaire | yeah, what he said |
| 00:15.42 | krka | really? didn't think LUA did pairwise comparisons |
| 00:16.04 | krka | so you can do: if 1,2==1,3 and stuff? |
| 00:16.18 | Nomad_Wanderer | hm... so that wouldn't work.. Do I have to go back to the original way of getting everything in seperate vars then comparing? |
| 00:16.28 | krka | here's my fix then: |
| 00:17.51 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.18 | krka | that last local might be unnecessary |
| 00:18.22 | kergoth | AnduinLothar: that isnt correct. in that context only teh first of the return values is used. |
| 00:18.45 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:24.57 | Guillotine | haha. you guys want to hear something intersting? when you set your hearthstone, its saved as the actual location you were standing when you talked to the guy. e.g. if you were on top of a globe when you set your hearthstone, you will be on top of that globe when you use your hearthstone. well, a horde came into darkshore and made all the guys chase after him. my hearthstone is now set for the middle of the darkshore forest |
| 00:25.31 | AnduinLothar | O.o ? |
| 00:26.18 | AnduinLothar | this sounds like it could be useful if u had a friendly grou of horde availbiel .. |
| 00:26.23 | Nomad_Wanderer | Bad news Krka That doesn't work either :) |
| 00:26.47 | AnduinLothar | maybe get the IF guy into the auctionhouse or the bank and HS there.. |
| 00:27.36 | AnduinLothar | or get the tanaris guy next to the fp.. |
| 00:27.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | Have to make some dinner BBL :) |
| 00:35.45 | Stylpe | Yay, I made WoW run out of memory trying to collect every function in one table! |
| 00:35.57 | Stylpe | Or maybe my code is just bad |
| 00:37.28 | Xiphoris | hmmm |
| 00:37.39 | Xiphoris | does anyone know where I could get an archive of all the WoW item/spell/etc icon images? |
| 00:37.58 | AnduinLothar | the images or a table of what they are used for? |
| 00:38.04 | Xiphoris | just the images |
| 00:38.09 | AnduinLothar | i can send um to u |
| 00:38.15 | Xiphoris | how many are there? |
| 00:38.37 | Xiphoris | that's awesome. I'm planning on printing some out and using them for a boardgame/RPG thing (D&D style) my friends and I are developing |
| 00:38.47 | AnduinLothar | it's about 100megs |
| 00:38.54 | Xiphoris | wow |
| 00:39.02 | AnduinLothar | might not have some of the most recent ones |
| 00:39.04 | Xiphoris | if you could do that I would be grateful... is there anything I could do in return? |
| 00:39.21 | AnduinLothar | KarlKFI will send it |
| 00:40.12 | Xiphoris | awesome, thanks |
| 00:40.14 | Xiphoris | DCC? FTP? |
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| 00:40.39 | AnduinLothar | dcc |
| 00:42.08 | KarlKFI | blocked brb |
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| 00:46.49 | Xiphoris | having problems? :[[ |
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| 00:47.45 | AnduinLothar | silly ns... |
| 00:47.46 | Xiphoris | thanks a lot, AnduinLothar :) |
| 00:48.51 | AnduinLothar | dont think it has anything newer that 1.6 but it's most of them |
| 00:49.18 | Iriel | Stylpe : Your code is bad 8-) |
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| 00:50.23 | pedropenguin | anyone familiar with the addon Gatherer? |
| 00:50.33 | Iriel | Moderately |
| 00:50.53 | pedropenguin | i have it set to show nodes on worldmap but it doesnt show anything |
| 00:50.59 | pedropenguin | shows on minimap tho |
| 00:51.00 | AnduinLothar | works fo rme |
| 00:51.03 | AnduinLothar | default setup |
| 00:51.09 | AnduinLothar | but i haven't updated ina while |
| 00:51.10 | Iriel | Did you click the button in the lower left corner of the world map? |
| 00:51.21 | pedropenguin | what button? |
| 00:51.27 | Xiphoris | oh no |
| 00:51.31 | Xiphoris | what happened, AnduinLothar |
| 00:51.58 | AnduinLothar | DCC SEND InterfaceArt.zip to Xiphoris failed. Connection reset by peer |
| 00:52.01 | Iriel | The 'show items' button (or whatever it's called) |
| 00:52.11 | pedropenguin | do you need mapnotes addon? |
| 00:53.30 | pedropenguin | guys? |
| 00:55.32 | AnduinLothar | ## OptionalDeps: myAddOns |
| 00:55.40 | pedropenguin | does gatherer cooperate with cosmos? |
| 00:56.46 | Xiphoris | thanks a lot, AnduinLothar |
| 00:58.01 | AnduinLothar | did it finish or abort? |
| 00:58.38 | Xiphoris | it finished :) |
| 01:01.55 | Xiphoris | AnduinLothar, where are item images in the structure? |
| 01:02.23 | AnduinLothar | Icons |
| 01:02.29 | Xiphoris | aha, thanks |
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| 01:14.04 | MentalPower|AFK | pedropenguindoes gatherer cooperate with cosmos? <--- It should |
| 01:15.07 | Osagasu | He's gone |
| 01:15.18 | MentalPower|AFK | yeah I noticed after I posted |
| 01:18.14 | Codayus | Hmm, anyone know offhand of a mod to allow making the font in the chatframe smaller? |
| 01:22.58 | cilo | Anyone have a suggestion for a way to make an element wrap depending on the size of the frame it's relative to? ie i have a unit frame that's variable width and i have a buff frame that needs to wrap to 2 lines once it exceeds the unit frame width. |
| 01:30.02 | Iriel | Other than setting up an OnSizeChanged handler, not |
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| 01:38.41 | Cair | Beladona: you there? |
| 01:38.46 | Beladona | yes |
| 01:38.59 | Cair | okay, try talking to me now ;) |
| 01:43.40 | cladhaire | Evening all |
| 01:44.00 | Cair | hey cladhaire |
| 01:44.24 | Osagasu | I just scared myself |
| 01:44.48 | Beladona | I am drawing a blank so maybe someone can help me with something |
| 01:44.59 | Beladona | I have a table that spans 100% of the browser width |
| 01:45.16 | Beladona | then I have code in each cell, some of which is longer than the width |
| 01:45.24 | Beladona | I need to force it to word-wrap |
| 01:45.37 | Beladona | instead of pushing the table width |
| 01:45.48 | Iriel | long words? |
| 01:45.51 | Iriel | You want them to break? |
| 01:45.53 | Beladona | very |
| 01:45.55 | Beladona | aye |
| 01:46.01 | Beladona | its lua code basically |
| 01:46.11 | Iriel | You can't force that in the current CSS spec, without resorting to IE specific hacks |
| 01:46.15 | Iriel | (And it doesn't work in non-IE) |
| 01:46.24 | Beladona | yeah, the word-wrap css |
| 01:46.29 | Iriel | I believe CSS3 fixes it |
| 01:46.30 | Beladona | well that sucks |
| 01:46.46 | Beladona | what gets me |
| 01:46.56 | Beladona | the html that my compare program generates does it |
| 01:47.08 | Beladona | but I can't seem to replicate the same behavior in an xslt |
| 01:47.22 | Iriel | Well, you CAN break them manually, or insert thin spaces here and there |
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| 01:48.41 | Guillotine | rawr |
| 01:48.52 | Osagasu | ~stab Guillotine |
| 01:48.54 | purl | ACTION runs at Guillotine with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 01:49.05 | Guillotine | i had an idea for an addonk, but im not sure if its made yet. i want to make something that will allow ppl to access the API remotely |
| 01:49.44 | Guillotine | basically, if I whisper my gf's computer "remotelua: message("hello"); it will pop up a textbox saying hello on her comp |
| 01:49.54 | RasmusKL | that sounds dangerous. |
| 01:49.58 | Osagasu | very |
| 01:50.07 | Guillotine | yet fun |
| 01:50.09 | Guillotine | :) |
| 01:50.10 | Osagasu | imagine... |
| 01:50.15 | Codayus | REALLY dangerous... |
| 01:50.20 | RasmusKL | what if I write a few lines that will make her destroy all her eq? |
| 01:50.24 | Osagasu | forcing someone to send you all their gold in the mail |
| 01:50.32 | Guillotine | osagasu: exactly |
| 01:50.39 | RasmusKL | don't ever do that :-P please. |
| 01:50.40 | Osagasu | >:) |
| 01:50.47 | Guillotine | osagasu: i can package it into my guild's addon package |
| 01:50.52 | RasmusKL | ... |
| 01:50.57 | Guillotine | then reel in the profits |
| 01:51.03 | Osagasu | one copper at a time |
| 01:51.06 | Guillotine | err- i mean. help them with their addons |
| 01:51.07 | Osagasu | ;) |
| 01:51.13 | Guillotine | i can check problems with addons |
| 01:51.15 | Guillotine | ya. thats it |
| 01:51.31 | Cair | bad plan, would imagine that even *if*, and I do stress *if*, there is currently any loopholes in the API that would allow that to happen, Blizz would close them in one hell of a hurry |
| 01:51.31 | RasmusKL | Well, just join a guild you don't like, get it installed, then chain trigger an event that will destroy everyone in the guilds eq :-P |
| 01:51.51 | Guillotine | cair: theres nothing at ALL that prevents it |
| 01:52.04 | Guillotine | its really simple to do |
| 01:52.13 | Guillotine | you just need the addon on the victim's computer |
| 01:52.23 | RasmusKL | you can't really write a script that will make people go to the mailbox anyways, but ofc you could register an event that'd make them send you gold whenever they came to a mailbox. |
| 01:52.30 | Guillotine | exactly |
| 01:53.01 | Guillotine | actually, before you guys mentioned it, i didn't even think about how dangerous that would be... |
| 01:53.07 | RasmusKL | but really, i'm pretty sure Blizz will find it a banable |
| 01:53.07 | Beladona | is Guill trying to hack again? |
| 01:53.17 | Cair | Okay smart coding peoples (ie everyone other than me) ... get in on this convo, please? |
| 01:53.22 | Codayus | Well, there are mods that destroy junk automatically already. |
| 01:53.24 | Guillotine | convo? |
| 01:53.29 | Cair | conversation |
| 01:53.51 | Guillotine | cair: its not hard at all. register for incoming chat messages and use RunScript(arg2) on them |
| 01:53.54 | Codayus | So, imagine one that destroyed epics automatically when it received a special command. |
| 01:54.09 | Guillotine | but you'd need to unsuspectlingly get this on other people's computers |
| 01:54.18 | Guillotine | which i guess isn't too hard if you provide addons for your guild |
| 01:54.28 | Beladona | do it |
| 01:54.38 | Beladona | then make a new account |
| 01:54.42 | Guillotine | do what? right the addon? or distribute it to my guild? |
| 01:54.43 | Beladona | because yours will be banned |
| 01:54.48 | Guillotine | obviously |
| 01:54.55 | Guillotine | i wasnt actually talking about using it to take over ppls |
| 01:54.59 | Guillotine | that was Osagasu's idea |
| 01:55.08 | Beladona | seriously though |
| 01:55.08 | Guillotine | i really did mean it to help my gf with her addons. since she lives hours away |
| 01:55.18 | Beladona | that kind of talk would ensure Blizz locking down the api |
| 01:55.29 | Codayus | The remote access part of Guillotine's idea makes it sound much more insideous than it actually is; the REAL point is that people should remember than any addon they install can do horrible damage to their character. :-) |
| 01:55.39 | Guillotine | right |
| 01:55.47 | RasmusKL | Yep |
| 01:55.55 | Guillotine | i mean, how hard would it be to just put in an addon that deleted purple items? |
| 01:56.02 | Cair | which is why WoWI has the policies in place that we do |
| 01:56.03 | RasmusKL | I remember one popular addon that included an innocent easter egg at some point |
| 01:56.08 | RasmusKL | people were outraged. |
| 01:56.12 | Guillotine | yup. i remember that too RasmusKL |
| 01:56.15 | Beladona | and lkely why Blizz is working to setup signed addons |
| 01:56.16 | Cair | we all do |
| 01:56.27 | Cair | it was DefendYourself |
| 01:56.28 | Guillotine | for a while a LONG time ago cosmos made you /bow when you targeted certain ppl |
| 01:56.44 | RasmusKL | uh oh :) |
| 01:56.45 | Guillotine | this was in late beta |
| 01:57.01 | Cair | and it had people suddenly randomly start saying things in chat when you were idle for too long in a city |
| 01:57.06 | Guillotine | yup. lol |
| 01:57.15 | Codayus | That was amusing... |
| 01:57.17 | Cair | that one, Guillotine, was in Cosmos, yes, back in Beta |
| 01:57.33 | Cair | Along with a couple other really dumb things they did |
| 01:57.49 | Guillotine | but what if i put in something so that it asked "Do you want to execute "message("hello")" recieved from player Guillotine? |
| 01:58.07 | Guillotine | that way I could still help her set it up, but it gets rid of the potential for abuse |
| 01:58.17 | Cair | Codayus: it *would have been* amusing if the author had told people that it was there, had it turned *off* by default, and told them how to turn it on if they wanted |
| 01:58.18 | Osagasu | any person packaging addons could remove that |
| 01:58.33 | Guillotine | right. but if they can remove that, they can easily right this addon |
| 01:58.35 | Osagasu | well almost any |
| 01:58.35 | Cair | Guillotine: okay, what are you wanting to do to "help her"? |
| 01:58.44 | Codayus | Cair: Well, I think it was still amusing. :-D I agree, however, that it wouldn't have been a very stupid idea if he'd done that. :-) |
| 01:59.00 | Guillotine | she's having problems with CTRA |
| 01:59.04 | Guillotine | its messing with her chat log somehow |
| 01:59.20 | Osagasu | you can write an addon that sends 1s to someone every time tou near a mailbox |
| 01:59.26 | Osagasu | *you |
| 01:59.29 | Osagasu | ^_^ |
| 01:59.37 | Guillotine | Osagasu: yes. you could. thats kind of random though |
| 01:59.50 | RasmusKL | would only work on your own server :-) |
| 02:00.00 | RasmusKL | But I guess if it was something like... CTRA that did it. |
| 02:00.03 | Osagasu | I have a character on every server, remember? |
| 02:00.06 | Guillotine | lol |
| 02:00.10 | RasmusKL | What'd you need it for? |
| 02:00.18 | RasmusKL | a lot of money on a server which you don't play, yay. |
| 02:00.27 | Osagasu | I might wanna play that charactrer someday. :P |
| 02:00.39 | Guillotine | seriously guys, i didn't mean anything sinister by this |
| 02:00.46 | Codayus | On a completely unrelated and much more positive note, I just ran across a nifty looking guild calendar addon called GroupCalendar |
| 02:00.46 | Osagasu | I don't think you did |
| 02:00.49 | Codayus | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2718 |
| 02:00.49 | Cair | okay, so what are you wanting it to do? |
| 02:00.57 | Codayus | Anyone messed with it? Looks cool. |
| 02:01.03 | Guillotine | i looked at it a bit |
| 02:01.11 | Guillotine | becomes kind of useless with 1.9 though |
| 02:01.24 | Guillotine | at least its no longer the most efficient way |
| 02:01.30 | Codayus | Oh, right, Bliz is adding stuff to the guild interface, aren't they.... |
| 02:01.35 | Osagasu | what happens in 1.9? :? |
| 02:01.36 | Guillotine | yup |
| 02:01.48 | Codayus | I really should get around to looking at the test server... |
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| 02:02.39 | Guillotine | I'm trying to think of a way blizz could lock down things like the remote addon without ruining the interface, but I can't think of it |
| 02:02.42 | Beladona | woot, got the auto-wrapping to work |
| 02:02.48 | Beladona | kind of a sloppy hack though |
| 02:02.53 | Guillotine | auto wrapping? |
| 02:02.58 | Guillotine | you mean using lots of spaces? |
| 02:03.08 | Beladona | yeah, making text wrap inside a table that is set to 100% width |
| 02:03.16 | Guillotine | ahh |
| 02:03.50 | Beladona | had to insert a div with float set to left, and then a span that floats left and width set to auto |
| 02:04.00 | Beladona | like I said, a hack |
| 02:04.18 | Osagasu | whatever works |
| 02:04.43 | Beladona | yup, and no all my compares are xml, and the xslt's work perfectly |
| 02:04.45 | Beladona | now* |
| 02:05.30 | RasmusKL | guess it's time to try the Benediction quest again on my friends account. |
| 02:05.40 | RasmusKL | it's actually not that easy :-P |
| 02:08.13 | cladhaire | The first part of it |
| 02:08.22 | cladhaire | It can be a pain.. but jsut when you think your'e screwed.. you get it =) |
| 02:08.40 | cladhaire | Fun fact.. if you have two priests in your party that need it.. and one of you does it.. you both get credit |
| 02:08.51 | RasmusKL | hehe |
| 02:08.51 | RasmusKL | nice |
| 02:09.12 | RasmusKL | trying to do it with oil of immolation for the skellies |
| 02:09.16 | RasmusKL | and then renew |
| 02:11.12 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 02:11.15 | cladhaire | don't use full rank renew |
| 02:11.17 | cladhaire | use a lower rank |
| 02:11.30 | cladhaire | and switch between having "V' up.. and not.. cause with "V" up.. you can't see which ones are diseased |
| 02:11.51 | RasmusKL | nod |
| 02:11.58 | RasmusKL | V is annoying when they get close |
| 02:12.14 | cladhaire | aye |
| 02:13.02 | Osagasu | for some innane reason I made a myspace account today. >.< |
| 02:13.33 | cladhaire | eew |
| 02:13.44 | cladhaire | I mean.. "I support you fully in your endeavor" |
| 02:13.56 | Osagasu | I think I was drunk |
| 02:15.43 | RasmusKL | atleast i'm not drunk for this try :-) |
| 02:16.28 | RasmusKL | clad, did you actually go to the entrance and follow the wave? |
| 02:16.37 | RasmusKL | and then go back to get the next wave? |
| 02:17.01 | cladhaire | Yeah |
| 02:17.02 | cladhaire | basically |
| 02:17.09 | cladhaire | once they get close to the end.. just let them go |
| 02:17.28 | cladhaire | took me two tries.. the first one I died from something as the 50th crossed the line =( |
| 02:17.33 | cladhaire | it said i succeeded.. then failed. |
| 02:17.36 | cladhaire | so depressing. |
| 02:17.42 | cladhaire | bring mana and health pots =) |
| 02:17.45 | RasmusKL | arg |
| 02:18.53 | RasmusKL | well |
| 02:18.56 | RasmusKL | only got mana pots atm. |
| 02:19.05 | cladhaire | then heal yourself if you need to =) |
| 02:19.07 | RasmusKL | how many waves are there? |
| 02:19.17 | cladhaire | as many as there need to be for you to get 50 before enough die |
| 02:19.22 | cladhaire | im not sure exactly |
| 02:19.26 | RasmusKL | 4-5? |
| 02:19.45 | RasmusKL | i'm betting i could write an addon that'd make it so much easier :-) |
| 02:19.52 | RasmusKL | cycling targets :-P |
| 02:20.11 | cladhaire | hahaha |
| 02:20.13 | cladhaire | its true. |
| 02:21.31 | RasmusKL | :-) |
| 02:21.38 | RasmusKL | I'll do that if I fail this time. |
| 02:22.50 | RasmusKL | should i ever use flash heal? on the mobs that is. |
| 02:22.52 | cladhaire | haha |
| 02:22.56 | cladhaire | i used rank 3 or 4 |
| 02:22.58 | cladhaire | on occasion |
| 02:23.15 | RasmusKL | nod |
| 02:23.25 | cladhaire | i used a different page to make it easier.. but i'm lazy |
| 02:23.46 | RasmusKL | i am too :) |
| 02:23.57 | RasmusKL | got fh, renew, immolation mostly |
| 02:23.59 | RasmusKL | and cure disease |
| 02:25.57 | RasmusKL | problem with the char is that it's not mc geared |
| 02:26.05 | RasmusKL | so it's probably harder :-) |
| 02:29.04 | cladhaire | a little bit |
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| 02:38.54 | Cair | ~botsnack |
| 02:38.54 | purl | Cair: aw, gee |
| 02:39.32 | futrtrubl | ~shut up |
| 02:39.33 | purl | yes, Master futrtrubl |
| 02:39.49 | Cair | *blink* |
| 02:40.01 | futrtrubl | who set that? |
| 02:40.20 | Beladona | ~literal shut up |
| 02:40.22 | purl | "shut up" is "<reply> yes, Master $who" |
| 02:40.29 | Beladona | hmmm |
| 02:40.35 | futrtrubl | ~info shut up |
| 02:43.25 | futrtrubl | hmm, can't find the command to look at the info |
| 02:44.09 | futrtrubl | ~listauth shut up |
| 02:44.11 | purl | factoid author list by 'shut up' returned no results. |
| 02:44.43 | futrtrubl | ~factinfo shut up |
| 02:44.43 | purl | shut up -- created by doughecka <~rooot@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net> at Thu Apr 1 03:00:43 2004 (611 days); it has been requested 50 times, last by futrtrubl, 5m 10s ago. |
| 02:45.30 | RasmusKL | Aw man, is there no good way to cycle through targets anymore? |
| 02:49.26 | MentalPower|PC | ~botsnack |
| 02:49.26 | purl | MentalPower|PC: :) |
| 02:49.29 | MentalPower|PC | geesh almost two years ago |
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| 02:54.25 | Cair | hey Rowne :) |
| 02:56.08 | Rowne | H'lo Cair. |
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| 03:05.11 | Cair | hey Slouken :) |
| 03:05.15 | slouken | Hey. :) |
| 03:06.03 | Osagasu | ow. |
| 03:06.07 | Beladona | hiya Slouken |
| 03:06.14 | slouken | Hey Bela |
| 03:06.30 | slouken | Doesn't Beladona mean "beautiful lady"? |
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| 03:06.39 | Beladona | or poisonous plant |
| 03:06.43 | Beladona | hehe |
| 03:06.43 | slouken | that too. :) |
| 03:07.11 | Osagasu | Bela is a man. |
| 03:07.13 | Osagasu | its a trap! |
| 03:07.16 | cladhaire | Heyas Slouken |
| 03:07.26 | slouken | Hey Cladhaire |
| 03:07.31 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | hey slouken |
| 03:07.36 | Beladona | supposedly it is also the name of a porn star, but I swear I didn't know that at the time |
| 03:07.37 | slouken | Hey Kael |
| 03:07.41 | cladhaire | (the channel wakes up when you show up) |
| 03:07.51 | Plorkyeran | what isn't the name of a porn star? |
| 03:08.00 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | slouken: have you had a chance to consider giving FontStrings GetParent() |
| 03:08.02 | Beladona | is* |
| 03:08.08 | Beladona | my name |
| 03:08.08 | slouken | I imagine there aren't porn stars named Plorkyeran |
| 03:08.14 | cladhaire | I've seen porn with Belladonna in it.. and a documentary =) |
| 03:08.15 | RasmusKL | muahaha, cladhaire, this is going to be great :-P |
| 03:08.19 | Cair | OKAY,WHO TOLD HIM MY BD? |
| 03:08.20 | Plorkyeran | there could be... |
| 03:08.32 | Beladona | BD? |
| 03:08.56 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | BD? |
| 03:09.02 | slouken | Kael, stick it in the 1.9 changes thread, I keep seeing it and forgetting about it |
| 03:09.24 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | I did slouken |
| 03:09.30 | RasmusKL | Got my little benediction addon now, so I can repeatedly spam a key, it'll check the mouseover targets health (and check for the disease debuff) and cast the appropriate spell, if any :-P |
| 03:09.31 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | both of them |
| 03:10.16 | cladhaire | hahaha your'e evil |
| 03:10.16 | RasmusKL | dunno how much it helps though :-) but it might. |
| 03:10.16 | cladhaire | why didn't you just show up and say "Hey Slouken.. you knwo those uses for addons that we're not supposed to do.. well i'm getting my priest epic cause of one =)" |
| 03:10.43 | Beladona | lol |
| 03:10.47 | RasmusKL | I'm on the EU servers :-P |
| 03:10.50 | Beladona | good thing he wasn't here earlier with Guillotine |
| 03:11.02 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | clad: hows the AceHook stuff going? |
| 03:11.03 | Guillotine | what? |
| 03:11.04 | slouken | ... not |
| 03:11.07 | Guillotine | i heard my name |
| 03:11.21 | RasmusKL | Hehe, well, anyways, it's mostly a proof of concept addon. |
| 03:11.22 | Beladona | nothing Guill, go back to sleep |
| 03:11.26 | RasmusKL | Not one I plan to release anyways. |
| 03:11.43 | cladhaire | Kael: Looked at it yesterday.. likely won't see anythign until Tuesday.. but it should be done by then |
| 03:11.47 | Guillotine | you made the addon i was talking about rasmusKL? |
| 03:12.07 | Cair | Oh god no |
| 03:12.14 | Beladona | lets not go there |
| 03:12.15 | Cair | I'm telling you, just don't go there |
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| 03:12.18 | RasmusKL | No, I made an addon to help me with the Benediction quest. |
| 03:12.19 | Beladona | again |
| 03:12.26 | Cair | *especially* not with Slouken in channel! |
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| 03:12.44 | RasmusKL | So I can press a key repeatedly, and it'll cast the appropriate spell/cure debuffs easier :-) |
| 03:12.52 | Beladona | not that we are keeping things from you Slouken, its just -- well -- things are best to not be advertised |
| 03:12.55 | cladhaire | haha you people are evil |
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| 03:13.09 | RasmusKL | Have to do it with mouseover target though, can't find a proper way to cycle through targets :-( |
| 03:13.16 | Cair | hey tragywydd :) |
| 03:13.24 | tragywydd | yo =) |
| 03:13.50 | AnduinLothar | uh oh. giving all ur auto-logic secrets to slouken? |
| 03:14.04 | slouken | I know them all... |
| 03:14.10 | Guillotine | ok. slouken. heres what they don't want me to tell you. I had an idea for an addon thats a kind of remote control. Basically, it would let me execute any API command that doesn't require a keypress on anybody else's WoW with the addon |
| 03:14.11 | RasmusKL | He proably knows :-) |
| 03:14.18 | AnduinLothar | oh yeah? ALL of them, eh? |
| 03:14.33 | Guillotine | all someone needs is to stick it into a guild addon pack and they ahve full control of everyone else |
| 03:14.34 | slouken | Tell me one I don't know, and I'll give you a cookie. |
| 03:14.40 | slouken | Guillotine, yep, it's trivial. |
| 03:14.48 | AnduinLothar | and give away my secrets? never |
| 03:15.02 | slouken | lol |
| 03:15.04 | Plorkyeran | I actually coded that up as a joke |
| 03:15.16 | Plorkyeran | and told them it was for our dkp tracking |
| 03:15.31 | Plorkyeran | it was more amusing before moving required a keypress |
| 03:16.00 | Guillotine | haha |
| 03:16.03 | tragywydd | you guys and your hax0ring |
| 03:16.05 | Guillotine | <3 Plorkyeran |
| 03:16.07 | Codayus | ... |
| 03:16.08 | Codayus | Heh. |
| 03:16.17 | Cair | so tragywydd, you gonna be a good boy tonight or do I have to yell at cladhaire again to get you to behave? |
| 03:16.24 | Guillotine | ya. thats what I was saying slouken. It's trivial, but has the potential for so much damage |
| 03:16.35 | tragywydd | what did I do last time? |
| 03:16.42 | Plorkyeran | eh, most useful things require a keypress |
| 03:16.42 | Beladona | its the same idea that is present in the Magical Trevor Addon |
| 03:16.45 | slouken | I imagine if it came to common use/abuse, it would be banned |
| 03:16.47 | Cair | you hurtededed my feelings! |
| 03:16.55 | tragywydd | i did? |
| 03:16.57 | Plorkyeran | toggling autoattack is about the only thing left that doesn't |
| 03:17.00 | tragywydd | what did I do? |
| 03:17.00 | Cair | yes |
| 03:17.12 | Cair | last night, you was meen to me |
| 03:17.20 | Guillotine | when you were drunk? |
| 03:17.22 | Plorkyeran | and botting someone to autoattack a mob doesn't seem that useful |
| 03:17.32 | Cair | I was not drunk Guillotine, that was wishful thinking on your part |
| 03:17.36 | Beladona | that reminds me, have you heard / seen the Magical Trevor addon Slouken? |
| 03:17.40 | Guillotine | i know |
| 03:17.42 | Guillotine | lol |
| 03:17.44 | Guillotine | its awesome :D |
| 03:17.44 | Cair | oh god Bela |
| 03:17.44 | slouken | Nope, what's that? |
| 03:17.46 | Cair | ROFL |
| 03:17.53 | Beladona | its cute! |
| 03:17.54 | Beladona | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4370 |
| 03:18.01 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4370 |
| 03:18.02 | Plorkyeran | perhaps being able to remotly stop people from attacking would be useful when you have idiots that don't stop attacking when the tank loses aggro |
| 03:18.03 | Cair | lol |
| 03:18.03 | Guillotine | although I don't think that's quite what bliz had in mind for their API |
| 03:18.17 | AnduinLothar | slouken, do you know why where's a UIMenu? it's only used for the chat button. why doesn't it use UIDropDownMenu ? |
| 03:18.24 | Beladona | its not malicious, but in effect it does what Guillotine is talking about |
| 03:18.27 | tragywydd | I think we've derailed from the original topic. If I bugged you, etc. I apologize |
| 03:18.41 | Cair | tragywydd: I was just teasing, no worries ;) |
| 03:18.47 | slouken | Heh |
| 03:18.50 | tragywydd | What I don't apologize to is fucking GTK for fucking up my keyboard layout |
| 03:18.59 | tragywydd | *bitches* |
| 03:19.01 | Codayus | GTK? |
| 03:19.04 | Cair | gack |
| 03:19.08 | Cair | not good |
| 03:19.10 | slouken | Okay, dinner and baby bedtime... |
| 03:19.17 | Beladona | seeya! |
| 03:19.18 | AnduinLothar | we were kinda wondering why it uses UIMenu at all.. |
| 03:19.22 | cladhaire | night Slouken |
| 03:19.22 | Codayus | Oh, right. |
| 03:19.34 | AnduinLothar | ... |
| 03:19.44 | Codayus | Heh |
| 03:19.57 | tragywydd | Gaim just doesn't like the international keyboard layout |
| 03:19.59 | tragywydd | at all.... |
| 03:20.06 | tragywydd | well, gaim/GTK |
| 03:20.22 | Guillotine | i think we scared him away |
| 03:20.25 | Guillotine | again |
| 03:20.34 | Cair | nope, it's dinner and baby bedtime |
| 03:20.41 | Codayus | I blame Guillotine anyhow. |
| 03:20.42 | Guillotine | or that |
| 03:20.46 | Codayus | On principle. |
| 03:20.47 | Cair | remember, he's got a 20-month old baby |
| 03:21.26 | tragywydd | Theyŕe so high maintenance at that age. |
| 03:21.31 | tragywydd | before it theyŕe so easy. |
| 03:21.55 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=356 |
| 03:21.58 | cladhaire | Well all, I'm headed to go watch Apprentice.. then some Charmed. |
| 03:22.00 | cladhaire | it'll be sexy. |
| 03:22.06 | cladhaire | and then maybe I'll try to get some work done on AceHooks. |
| 03:22.09 | cladhaire | *pant* |
| 03:22.13 | cladhaire | so much to get done. |
| 03:22.14 | tragywydd | and will someone please tell me WHAT POSSIBLE USE DOES Å” HAVE IN AN LANGUAGE?!?? |
| 03:22.16 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=334 |
| 03:22.20 | Osagasu | That baby is going to be so geeky when he grows up |
| 03:22.30 | Cair | she |
| 03:22.42 | Cair | and she's an absolute little doll, so sweet |
| 03:23.09 | Osagasu | That baby is going to be so geeky when *s*he grows up then |
| 03:23.10 | tragywydd | dude, that baby will jam packed with as much infomration as possible |
| 03:23.28 | Beladona | I would agree, but I am not sure what you said |
| 03:23.35 | Cair | lol |
| 03:24.09 | AnduinLothar | ok quick. i need a macro to invite every 60 in the guild to a raid |
| 03:24.38 | Osagasu | you're the macro guy |
| 03:24.39 | Osagasu | make one |
| 03:24.44 | Beladona | ping! |
| 03:24.51 | tragywydd | pong? |
| 03:25.14 | Codayus | I think the code needed is kind of ugly. CTRA has the functionality built in though, IIRC. Could see how they did it. |
| 03:26.24 | Codayus | tragywydd: What use does a Å? Looks like the unit for angstroms to me. Quite useful, especially if you're an elec engineer... :-) |
| 03:26.42 | Codayus | s/a Å/an Å have/ |
| 03:26.43 | tragywydd | oh, must display different in yoru char set |
| 03:26.52 | clad|tv-sleep | Night all =) |
| 03:26.56 | Codayus | Probably. What's it look like to you? |
| 03:26.57 | tragywydd | it shows up as an accutely accented R to me |
| 03:27.16 | Cair | night Clad :) |
| 03:27.16 | Codayus | Oh, well, that's not very helpful then, is it? |
| 03:27.22 | Codayus | Night clad |
| 03:27.26 | tragywydd | which is, imo, one of the more useless diacritical markings |
| 03:27.58 | tragywydd | (clad just referred to this convo as my "Diatribe on diacritical markings") |
| 03:28.22 | tragywydd | and if heÅ› leaving then so am I, since I'm watching apprentice with him |
| 03:28.24 | tragywydd | g'night, all |
| 03:28.31 | Cair | night tragywydd|away |
| 03:28.51 | Codayus | Night tragywydd |
| 03:35.56 | Kolth | What's the best Load-On-Demand manager out there? |
| 03:36.12 | AnduinLothar | Khaos + AddonManager |
| 03:37.54 | Cair | so now that my head isn't trying to explode from the pressure within ... how is everyone this evening? |
| 03:39.10 | Kolth | Karl: That does per-character AddOn profiling? |
| 03:40.27 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 03:42.18 | Kolth | Oh, I must've done it wrong when I just tried. |
| 03:42.32 | AnduinLothar | heh, i just used CancelTrackingBuff for a quick exit |
| 03:42.40 | Kolth | hah |
| 03:43.38 | AnduinLothar | bah... wait queue to get back in |
| 03:43.45 | AnduinLothar | guess that means it's food time |
| 03:44.49 | AnduinLothar | so, what's the best ZG strat guide? |
| 03:45.01 | Kolth | Nurfed's is good |
| 03:45.23 | AnduinLothar | link? |
| 03:45.24 | Kolth | You don't really need a writeup for ZG spare Hakkar. |
| 03:45.30 | Kolth | http://www.whataboutpp.com |
| 03:45.37 | AnduinLothar | u do with a newb guild |
| 03:45.50 | Kolth | Word. |
| 03:45.58 | AnduinLothar | spider boss is hard |
| 03:46.06 | Kolth | I suppose. |
| 03:46.17 | Kolth | Your Warriors wipe you. |
| 03:46.52 | AnduinLothar | we're aliance witha ton of pallies and wars we should be good cycling freedom |
| 03:48.15 | AnduinLothar | link to nurfed guide? |
| 03:48.48 | Kolth | forget |
| 03:48.49 | Kolth | sec |
| 03:48.56 | Kolth | http://www.whataboutpp.com/old_zgs/ |
| 03:49.00 | Kolth | History ftw |
| 03:49.19 | AnduinLothar | thx |
| 03:58.32 | AnduinLothar | why the hell is it taking me 5 min to load.. |
| 03:59.01 | Cair | Blizz hates you? |
| 03:59.21 | Beladona | forgot to feed the hamsters? |
| 03:59.32 | AnduinLothar | i'm leading a ZG raid. i log out to zap an undead channel. queue to get back in... 10 min loading .. |
| 03:59.57 | AnduinLothar | and my damn vent's not working |
| 04:01.49 | AnduinLothar | pmfg 150 man queue.. |
| 04:02.03 | AnduinLothar | *%&^#%^#$*^%&$&^^%(&*^)*^*(_(*_()!!!!!! |
| 04:02.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge RedcXe (i=RedcXe@cpe-72-225-160-49.si.res.rr.com) |
| 04:02.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=Matt@host3.renaissancehotels.com) |
| 04:03.29 | Cair | hey Tem :) |
| 04:03.36 | Tem | hey |
| 04:03.48 | Cair | what's wrong? |
| 04:05.41 | Cair | okay |
| 04:05.53 | Tem | (but anyone who watched CBS in the last couple of hours will know why) |
| 04:06.21 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | sports? |
| 04:06.30 | Cair | ah |
| 04:07.38 | AnduinLothar | ucla or usc? |
| 04:13.33 | Tem | <-- LSU |
| 04:13.46 | Tem | (FUSC) |
| 04:17.08 | Osagasu | poor colorado. ;_; |
| 04:35.30 | *** join/#wowi-lounge zeeg (n=wguru@63.147.183.137) |
| 04:37.12 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Esamynn (n=chatzill@d207-216-176-153.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 04:37.22 | Cair | hey Esamynn :) |
| 04:37.35 | Esamynn | Hi Cair |
| 04:37.39 | Esamynn | how goes it? |
| 04:38.01 | Cair | good, you? |
| 04:38.23 | Esamynn | good, thanks |
| 04:38.29 | Cair | cool :) |
| 04:46.17 | kergoth | hey |
| 04:46.41 | Cair | hey kergoth :) |
| 04:48.13 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | hate school work! |
| 04:48.17 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | sorry I'll stop now |
| 04:48.19 | Kaelten|Schoolwo | hehe |
| 04:48.41 | Cair | ~give Kaelten a cookie |
| 04:48.42 | purl | ACTION gives Kaelten a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up. |
| 04:50.29 | Codayus | Kaelten|Schoolwo: What class? |
| 04:51.56 | kergoth | wow, my realm is full for the first time |
| 04:51.57 | kergoth | i'm in queue |
| 04:51.58 | kergoth | :( |
| 04:53.10 | Esamynn | Yah, Dragonblight has had queues during primetime since we were the target of a server transfer :( |
| 04:53.26 | Cair | ~give kergoth a cookie |
| 04:53.28 | purl | ACTION gives kergoth a home-baked oatmeal raisin cookie to cheer him up. |
| 04:53.29 | Esamynn | server has been having problems since the transfer too, probably due to the high population ;( |
| 04:54.13 | Esamynn | aww, purl is so sweet :D |
| 04:55.49 | Cair | don't believe it |
| 04:55.54 | Cair | ~lart |
| 04:56.03 | Cair | ~lart Esamynn |
| 04:56.34 | Esamynn | ~slap Cair |
| 04:56.36 | purl | ACTION slaps Cair, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 04:56.42 | Cair | ~smack Esamynn |
| 04:56.43 | purl | ACTION smacks Esamynn upside the head. |
| 04:56.57 | Cair | ;) |
| 04:57.17 | Esamynn | i think i'll stop before I get humiliated :P |
| 04:58.07 | Cair | ~apologize Esamynn |
| 04:58.21 | Cair | hrm |
| 04:58.25 | Esamynn | lol |
| 04:58.30 | Cair | ah well |
| 04:58.48 | Beladona | ~sorry Esamyn |
| 04:58.51 | Esamynn | can those commands be programmed as well, or only the definitions? |
| 04:59.13 | Cair | they can be programmed |
| 04:59.24 | futrtrubl | ~literal lart |
| 04:59.25 | purl | "lart" is "Luser Attitude Re-adjustment Tool" |
| 04:59.32 | Cair | ~lart futrtrubl |
| 04:59.45 | futrtrubl | ~literal lart cair |
| 04:59.47 | purl | shut up cair |
| 04:59.53 | Cair | ! |
| 04:59.55 | Cair | >< |
| 05:00.01 | Beladona | what the |
| 05:00.17 | futrtrubl | literal doesn't show lart's stuff |
| 05:00.20 | *** join/#wowi-lounge slouken (n=slouken@ip68-5-42-243.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 05:00.25 | Cair | wb Slouken |
| 05:00.26 | Esamynn | hmm, purl is rebelling |
| 05:00.31 | Beladona | its supposed to |
| 05:00.33 | Esamynn | hey Slouken |
| 05:00.33 | Codayus | Hiya slouken |
| 05:00.37 | Beladona | ~literal cow |
| 05:00.38 | purl | "cow" is "<reply> I am a cow, hear me moo. I eat grass and weigh twice as much as you." |
| 05:00.38 | slouken | Heya |
| 05:00.40 | futrtrubl | hola Slouken |
| 05:00.40 | AnduinLothar | it's really hard to raid ZG at .5 fps.. |
| 05:00.46 | Cair | ~lart Slouken |
| 05:00.52 | slouken | ouch! |
| 05:00.53 | Cair | HA! |
| 05:00.55 | slouken | ~poke Cair |
| 05:00.56 | purl | but then who will poke the pokers, slouken? Tain? |
| 05:00.56 | futrtrubl | purl, you're fat |
| 05:00.58 | purl | No I'm not! I'm just big boned. |
| 05:01.04 | Cair | HA! |
| 05:01.06 | Cair | ~lart Slouken |
| 05:01.20 | Codayus | .5? Dude! |
| 05:01.22 | Cair | bah |
| 05:01.24 | Cair | ~lart Slouken |
| 05:01.34 | slouken | ~lart purl |
| 05:01.40 | slouken | take that! |
| 05:01.43 | Beladona | hehe |
| 05:01.43 | Esamynn | ~lart cair |
| 05:01.47 | Cair | NOOOOOOO |
| 05:01.56 | Beladona | ~smack everyone |
| 05:01.57 | purl | ACTION smacks everyone upside the head. |
| 05:02.02 | Esamynn | hmm, that one needs a spelling correction :P |
| 05:02.07 | Cair | Oh yeah Bela? |
| 05:02.16 | Cair | ~whaleslap Beladona |
| 05:02.17 | purl | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap Beladona over the head with it..... |
| 05:02.17 | Beladona | LOL |
| 05:02.24 | Beladona | ~lart Cair |
| 05:02.35 | Cair | ~stab Beladona |
| 05:02.37 | purl | ACTION runs at Beladona with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 05:02.37 | Esamynn | ~inigo |
| 05:02.39 | purl | He's right on top of us. I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using. |
| 05:02.40 | Beladona | ~shoot Cair |
| 05:02.41 | purl | ACTION shoots Cair in the eye with a phase pistol! |
| 05:02.47 | Cair | YAY inigo! |
| 05:02.56 | Esamynn | ~literal inigo |
| 05:02.57 | purl | "inigo" is "<reply>Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father: prepare to die.||<reply>He's right on top of us. I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using.||<reply>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.||<reply>Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.||<reply>Fezzik, tear his arms ... |
| 05:03.10 | futrtrubl | ~literal emulate inigo |
| 05:03.21 | Beladona | ~emulate inigo |
| 05:03.22 | Cair | no emulate for him, just quotes |
| 05:03.33 | kergoth | ~inigo |
| 05:03.35 | purl | He's right on top of us. I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using. |
| 05:03.35 | futrtrubl | ;'[ |
| 05:03.43 | kergoth | ~emulate stewie |
| 05:03.44 | purl | Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. |
| 05:03.52 | futrtrubl | ~stewie |
| 05:03.56 | Beladona | ~emulate Cair |
| 05:03.57 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 05:03.57 | Cair | typically only emulates for channel members, whereas there are quotes for lots, members and other |
| 05:04.03 | Esamynn | lol |
| 05:04.11 | Beladona | ~emulate Beladona |
| 05:04.18 | Beladona | need to make one |
| 05:04.20 | slouken | lol |
| 05:04.21 | Cair | you haven't ... yeah |
| 05:04.23 | Esamynn | ~emulate slouken |
| 05:04.24 | purl | ACTION pokes some little piece of code.... "I wonder what this does?" ...fiddle fiddle.... *SNAP* |
| 05:04.25 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 05:04.26 | purl | ACTION hacks on bitbake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus, and other projects |
| 05:04.34 | slouken | oops. :) |
| 05:04.35 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 05:04.37 | purl | ACTION hacks on bitbake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus, and other projects |
| 05:04.37 | Cair | purl, Beladona? |
| 05:04.38 | purl | one of the moderators at WoWI, owner/creator of wdn.wowinterface.com and all around cool guy |
| 05:04.39 | kergoth | bah |
| 05:04.50 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 05:04.52 | purl | ACTION wields a mean polished, spiked cluebat |
| 05:04.53 | slouken | ~emulate Cair |
| 05:04.54 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 05:04.56 | kergoth | thats better |
| 05:05.00 | Cair | careful kergoth, you're going to get ignored again ;) |
| 05:05.13 | kergoth | ~herring Cair |
| 05:05.16 | purl | ACTION whacks Cair on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 05:05.21 | Cair | ~lart kergoth |
| 05:05.26 | kergoth | now thats just mean |
| 05:05.29 | Esamynn | ok, so how do you program those commands? ;) |
| 05:05.31 | Cair | HAH! |
| 05:05.36 | Cair | I LIKE that one! |
| 05:05.39 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:05.53 | Esamynn | same way you program definitions? |
| 05:05.59 | futrtrubl | yup |
| 05:06.09 | Cair | not that I would ever, like, spam the damn bot or anything though |
| 05:06.16 | futrtrubl | ~literal emulate futrtrubl |
| 05:06.18 | purl | "emulate futrtrubl" is "<reply> what DOES my name mean anyway? the world may never know" |
| 05:06.18 | Esamynn | ~lart cair |
| 05:06.23 | Beladona | everytime I get somewhere with my wdn update, this channel starts to get fun |
| 05:06.37 | Esamynn | lol |
| 05:06.50 | Cair | yeah, and I'm not even drinking tonight! |
| 05:07.24 | Cair | ~trout Esamynn |
| 05:07.25 | purl | ACTION slaps Esamynn around a bit with a large trout! |
| 05:07.26 | Beladona | now I know what is wrong with this night |
| 05:07.34 | Cair | no booze? |
| 05:07.37 | Beladona | I don't have alcohol |
| 05:07.44 | Cair | *shock* |
| 05:08.02 | Beladona | I went AFK last night, and well, never came back |
| 05:08.02 | Cair | I can't have alcohol tonight ... or at least, I probably really shouldn't |
| 05:08.08 | Cair | hehehhe, we noticed |
| 05:08.11 | Beladona | you can guess where the alcohol went |
| 05:09.31 | Beladona | ~party |
| 05:09.33 | purl | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 05:09.33 | kergoth | ~emulate gir |
| 05:09.34 | purl | dooom doooom doom |
| 05:10.21 | Cair | ~dance |
| 05:10.22 | purl | "ah, ah, ah, ah, stayin' alive, stayin' alive" |
| 05:10.29 | Cair | *shudder* |
| 05:11.27 | Esamynn | bad purl |
| 05:11.45 | Cair | lol, careful what you say to purl, (s)he sometimes fights back |
| 05:11.50 | Beladona | ~emulate Guillotine |
| 05:11.52 | purl | woohoo! spoofing links is fun! |
| 05:11.56 | Cair | lol |
| 05:12.00 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:12.02 | kergoth | ~emulate me |
| 05:12.03 | purl | Ooh look, shiny! Erm, I know I was supposed to be doing something. I wonder what it was |
| 05:12.44 | Beladona | we need an emulate for Guillotine that says "Hey Cair, whats your admin password?" |
| 05:12.51 | Beladona | since he likes to say that one a lot |
| 05:13.06 | Cair | and an auto response for me that says "not fucking likely" |
| 05:13.10 | Esamynn | ~literal emulate Guillotine |
| 05:13.11 | purl | "emulate guillotine" is "<reply> woohoo! spoofing links is fun!" |
| 05:13.11 | Beladona | hehe |
| 05:13.58 | Cair | purl, no, emulate guillotine is <reply> woohoo! spoofing links is fun! || <reply> Hey Cair, what's your admin password? |
| 05:14.00 | purl | okay, Cair |
| 05:14.11 | Beladona | ~emulate Guillotine |
| 05:14.12 | purl | Hey Cair, what's your admin password? |
| 05:14.16 | Cair | lol |
| 05:14.18 | Beladona | hehe |
| 05:14.36 | Beladona | I am sure he will love that |
| 05:14.57 | Cair | undoubtedly |
| 05:19.31 | Cair | duh |
| 05:20.42 | Esamynn | lol |
| 05:21.00 | Beladona | he wants to do jack? |
| 05:21.02 | Cair | Honestly, I'm sorry, but some days ... coders are just as bloody stupid as end users :p |
| 05:21.31 | Cair | lol, I don't know Bela, I didn't ask ;) |
| 05:21.41 | Beladona | hehe |
| 05:22.35 | Cair | It's like everything else ... take a <insert occupational title here> out of their usual habitat, and they are just as stupid as everyone else |
| 05:23.30 | Cair | You think, "Wow, (s)he must be so smart, (s)he is a <insert occupational title here>" and then they go and prove you wrong |
| 05:24.03 | Cair | and your faith in humanity and hope for the future is destroyed yet again |
| 05:24.05 | Beladona | I didn't do it, I swear! |
| 05:24.16 | Cair | ~stab slouken |
| 05:24.17 | purl | ACTION runs at slouken with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 05:24.25 | Beladona | nice |
| 05:24.55 | Cair | you ever paper cut your tongue? that HURTS! (or so I've been told) |
| 05:25.05 | Mondinga | ive seen it |
| 05:25.07 | Mondinga | and it hurts seeing it |
| 05:25.09 | Cair | hey Mondinga :) |
| 05:25.13 | Beladona | heh |
| 05:25.22 | Mondinga | paper cuts hurt more to watch in general tho |
| 05:25.39 | Cair | actually, I lie, I have done it before, licking envelopes, son of a BITCH |
| 05:25.48 | futrtrubl | Mandingo |
| 05:26.03 | Cair | like, paper cut your finger, that's ouchie and annoying ... paper cut your tongue? geeeeez! |
| 05:26.26 | Cair | don't eat anything sour afterward, I can tell you |
| 05:26.31 | futrtrubl | paper cuts under a nail... ;'[ |
| 05:26.38 | Cair | eww, yeah, that's bad too |
| 05:27.00 | Cair | paper cut the inside of your elbow/arm |
| 05:27.08 | Cair | (carrying files) |
| 05:27.18 | futrtrubl | paper cut on your... oops going too far with this |
| 05:27.19 | Beladona | possibly the worst is inside the webbing between your fingers |
| 05:27.26 | Cair | ewwww futrtrubl |
| 05:27.40 | Cair | ~lart futrtrubl |
| 05:27.59 | futrtrubl | I wqas going to say "ear". What were you thinking? |
| 05:28.30 | kergoth | i was thinking "ow" |
| 05:28.34 | kergoth | thta about sums it up |
| 05:32.27 | futrtrubl | homemade ear horn |
| 05:32.34 | Cair | rofl |
| 05:32.53 | futrtrubl | ehh? speak up sonny! |
| 05:34.07 | Esamynn | ~sorry |
| 05:34.08 | purl | ACTION appologizes profusely to everyone, points at the spammers, and says: IT WAS THEM, THEY MADE ME DO IT!!! |
| 05:34.20 | Cair | lol |
| 05:34.24 | futrtrubl | what's a good bittorrent client? |
| 05:34.42 | Kolth | MuTorrent! |
| 05:34.47 | Esamynn | still trying to puzzle out how to program the commands like lart |
| 05:34.55 | Cair | I use BitTornado *shrug* |
| 05:35.15 | Cair | no idea if it's "good" or "bad", but it works fine for me |
| 05:35.21 | futrtrubl | same here Cair, was wondering if there was anything better, I haven't really looked to hard |
| 05:35.36 | futrtrubl | too* |
| 05:35.37 | Cair | it downloads pr0n just fine, what more do you need? |
| 05:35.53 | futrtrubl | and the internet is for porn |
| 05:36.37 | Cair | http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi |
| 05:36.44 | Beladona | and playing wow |
| 05:38.40 | Mondinga | been using utorrent recently |
| 05:43.36 | Cair | ~for porn |
| 05:43.37 | purl | http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi |
| 05:43.40 | Cair | hah! |
| 06:18.38 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Stylpe (n=Stylpe@98.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 06:32.11 | Esamynn | finally figured it out! :) |
| 06:32.13 | Esamynn | ~sorry cair |
| 06:32.14 | purl | ACTION appologizes to cair |
| 06:32.29 | Cair | cool, now fix your spelling! ;) |
| 06:32.38 | Esamynn | haha :P |
| 06:33.28 | Esamynn | didn't even notice, I was so excited ;) |
| 06:33.36 | Cair | ~applaud Esamynn |
| 06:33.38 | purl | ACTION gives Esamynn a standing ovation |
| 06:33.38 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@c-66-229-214-105.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:33.50 | Cair | :) |
| 06:33.53 | Esamynn | purl, no, sorry $1 is <action> apologizes to $1 |
| 06:33.55 | purl | okay, Esamynn |
| 06:34.02 | Esamynn | ~sorry me |
| 06:34.03 | purl | ACTION apologizes to esamynn |
| 06:34.11 | Cair | cool |
| 06:34.41 | Esamynn | i've been playing with it all this time trying to figure out how to code that in :) |
| 06:34.48 | Cair | really? |
| 06:34.49 | Esamynn | purl was being stubbern |
| 06:34.53 | Esamynn | ~sorry |
| 06:34.54 | purl | ACTION appologizes profusely to everyone, points at the spammers, and says: "IT'S THEIR FAULT, I DIDN'T WANNA DO IT!!!" |
| 06:35.04 | Cair | wow, you're ... persistent |
| 06:35.09 | Esamynn | that I am |
| 06:35.17 | slouken | ~lick me |
| 06:35.19 | purl | ACTION licks slouken *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 06:35.24 | Cair | ! |
| 06:35.26 | Esamynn | avoiding studying ;) |
| 06:35.28 | Esamynn | haha |
| 06:35.30 | slouken | ~herring purl |
| 06:35.31 | purl | ACTION whacks purl on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 06:37.21 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 06:39.41 | Esamynn | mean slouken |
| 06:39.45 | Esamynn | ~mean slouken |
| 06:39.46 | purl | ACTION thinks slouken is mean :( |
| 06:42.57 | futrtrubl | purl, you're fat |
| 06:42.59 | purl | No I'm not! I'm just big boned. |
| 06:46.57 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Stylpe (n=Stylpe@98.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 06:47.08 | sini | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:47.37 | Cair | *purr* |
| 06:48.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dukeku (i=dukeku@c-67-160-162-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:48.31 | Cair | dukeku: you seem to be having problems with your connection tonight ... |
| 06:48.50 | dukeku | i seem to be having problems with xchat crashing when i do...anything :P |
| 06:48.56 | Xiphoris | Does Blizzard have any TOS about people using art from their games? |
| 06:49.05 | Xiphoris | for example, item images from the game are all over thottbot.com |
| 06:49.09 | dukeku | depends on where you use it |
| 06:49.13 | Xiphoris | certainly copyright, but ... |
| 06:49.17 | Cair | and how |
| 06:49.28 | dukeku | Xiphoris: blizzard hosts the icons on their FTP server for use in sites like that |
| 06:49.28 | Cair | and whether or not you try to make money from it |
| 06:49.36 | dukeku | not for them to hotlink, but just for convenience i guess :P |
| 06:49.42 | Xiphoris | dukeku, where at? |
| 06:49.44 | Cair | aye, it's part of the FanSite Kit |
| 06:49.46 | Cair | sec |
| 06:49.52 | dukeku | yeah i don't have the link handy |
| 06:49.53 | Xiphoris | do they publish the whole set of ther WOW item icons? |
| 06:49.57 | dukeku | one of the CMs mentioned it a week or so ago |
| 06:50.00 | dukeku | yeah, they do |
| 06:50.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge dukeku (i=dukeku@c-67-160-162-146.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:50.42 | Cair | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/other-downloads.html |
| 06:50.51 | Xiphoris | thank you |
| 06:50.51 | dukeku | uhhh |
| 06:50.53 | dukeku | okay, not trying that again |
| 06:50.53 | Cair | bottom of the page |
| 06:54.33 | Esamynn | ~emulate slouken |
| 06:54.34 | purl | ACTION picks up a bug swatter ... *splat* ... *splat* ... Ewww, that was a big one... |
| 06:54.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Stylpe (n=Stylpe@98.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 06:54.55 | Esamynn | I figured that one was appropriate for him too :D |
| 06:55.05 | Cair | yup |
| 06:55.20 | Cair | hope you added it though, instead of replacing |
| 06:55.29 | Esamynn | yes |
| 06:55.33 | Esamynn | ~emulate slouken |
| 06:55.34 | purl | ACTION pokes some little piece of code.... "I wonder what this does?" ...fiddle fiddle.... *SNAP* |
| 06:55.41 | Cair | cool |
| 06:56.22 | futrtrubl | ~emulate bevis |
| 06:56.34 | Beladona | beavis |
| 06:56.41 | futrtrubl | ahh |
| 06:56.46 | dukeku | ~emulate butthead |
| 06:56.49 | futrtrubl | ~emulate beavis |
| 06:56.55 | Cair | ~beavis |
| 06:56.57 | purl | Mail poller for Enlightenment. URL: http://saturn5.locnet.net/epplets/ |
| 06:57.02 | Cair | ~butthead |
| 06:57.03 | purl | rumour has it, butthead is a smelly prick |
| 06:57.08 | slouken | ewww |
| 06:57.08 | Esamynn | rofl |
| 06:57.30 | dukeku | haha |
| 06:57.32 | Cair | blech |
| 06:59.26 | Esamynn | ~emulate tem |
| 06:59.27 | purl | Dammit, that's it. I'm breaking a new [something]! |
| 06:59.38 | Cair | lol, so very very true of tem |
| 07:00.15 | dukeku | awww, they changed the booty bay transporter quest in orgrimmar from ratchet to orgrimmar faction |
| 07:00.23 | dukeku | now i can't let my alts get the transporter :( |
| 07:00.39 | Codayus | ? |
| 07:01.03 | dukeku | you used to be able to run into org as alliance and grab the quest to use the booty bay transporter into gnomeregan |
| 07:01.21 | Cair | really? |
| 07:01.23 | Codayus | Really? |
| 07:01.27 | Codayus | Hmm. |
| 07:01.28 | dukeku | yeah, it rocked |
| 07:01.29 | Esamynn | lol |
| 07:01.37 | dukeku | back in the booty bay pvp days my friend abused it all the time |
| 07:01.40 | Codayus | Damn, didn't know that. :-) |
| 07:01.42 | dukeku | too many guards and he'd just port to gnomeregan |
| 07:02.43 | dukeku | i still have my goblin transponder but i'm not much of a lowbie-ganking kind of guy |
| 07:05.13 | Codayus | Hmm, position in queue: 733. Estamted time: 42 min. |
| 07:05.25 | Codayus | Well, okay, so maybe I didn't want to play on that server anyhow. |
| 07:05.42 | Esamynn | ack! |
| 07:05.49 | Cair | ewwww |
| 07:06.12 | Esamynn | which server is that? |
| 07:06.18 | Codayus | (Was thinking of rolling an alt there; I know a couple people on the server. But then again, maybe I won't...) |
| 07:06.21 | Codayus | Frostmourne. |
| 07:06.36 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 07:06.41 | Codayus | My normal server never has a queue. (Now position 713 eta 61 min.) |
| 07:07.08 | Esamynn | my server never had a queue until we were the target of a server transfer :( |
| 07:07.17 | futrtrubl | my normal server never had a queue.. till recently |
| 07:07.34 | Codayus | Yay! Under 700 slots to go! |
| 07:07.36 | futrtrubl | what Esamynn said |
| 07:08.14 | Cair | I lucked out, sort of |
| 07:08.20 | Codayus | I guess Frostmourne is just popular or something... |
| 07:08.20 | Esamynn | Dragonblight has had problems ever since that transfer :( |
| 07:08.25 | Esamynn | never had problems before that |
| 07:08.33 | Codayus | Cair: Yeah? |
| 07:09.09 | Cair | I transfered from IceDown to Azjol-Nerub ... |
| 07:09.09 | Cair | still no wait queues ... but AN has worse lag than IceDown |
| 07:09.18 | futrtrubl | damn you Cair, your the reason my server has queues now! |
| 07:09.29 | Cair | You're on AN? |
| 07:09.38 | futrtrubl | Azjol has queues now. Yeah |
| 07:09.55 | Cair | Never has when I've gone to log in |
| 07:10.13 | Codayus | Positoon: 644 ETA 26 min. Umm...yay... |
| 07:10.17 | futrtrubl | we liked the lag, stopped people from playing on it ;'] |
| 07:10.24 | Esamynn | probably only has queues right around 6-8pm PST right? |
| 07:10.40 | futrtrubl | abouts |
| 07:10.57 | futrtrubl | usually 15 min queues |
| 07:11.01 | Esamynn | or maybe only 7-9, thats what Dragonblight gets |
| 07:11.25 | Esamynn | its a real pain because we often get a person or 3 stuck in the queue when we are trying to raid :( |
| 07:11.29 | futrtrubl | thank god Kalecgos is still underpopulated |
| 07:12.21 | Esamynn | they need to pick some lower pop servers for transfer targets, they need to avoid servers developing queues as a result of a transfer |
| 07:12.51 | futrtrubl | azjol was a lower pop server before the transfer |
| 07:13.49 | futrtrubl | never had it show as higher than medium, even at peak |
| 07:14.06 | Esamynn | I think the problem is there is no limit on the number of accounts that can transfer |
| 07:14.48 | futrtrubl | they can end the transfer period early, and have done that beforew |
| 07:15.16 | Esamynn | obviously not soon enough though :( |
| 07:15.30 | futrtrubl | yup ;'[ |
| 07:15.49 | Cair | A lot of the problem is that instead of just getting new servers and moving the terrible 20 to them, they instead tried to fix it the "cheap" way of letting players opt to move to existing servers |
| 07:16.12 | Cair | so, the existing, formerly okay, servers are now high pop |
| 07:16.18 | Esamynn | exactly! |
| 07:16.26 | Cair | yet the terrible 20, are *still* the terrible 20 |
| 07:16.31 | Esamynn | they need to move people to new servers |
| 07:16.46 | Esamynn | not existing ones |
| 07:16.49 | futrtrubl | should do server splits, split a whole new server off the overpopped ones |
| 07:17.08 | Esamynn | yah, pretty much |
| 07:17.28 | futrtrubl | though I can see why they don't |
| 07:17.41 | Esamynn | but the splits need to be voluntary |
| 07:18.21 | futrtrubl | brand new server with instant 60s. granted, some people grind to 60 pretty fast anyway |
| 07:18.29 | Cair | just now, it's the terrible 40, instead of just the terrible 20 |
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| 07:18.41 | Esamynn | so, low levels will transfer as well |
| 07:19.01 | futrtrubl | I think they want people to lvl together |
| 07:19.29 | Esamynn | why? |
| 07:19.44 | futrtrubl | community |
| 07:21.06 | Esamynn | in my mind though, transfers to a new server wouldn't really be any different than transfers to an existing one, except that a transfer to a new one would allow more people to move |
| 07:21.34 | Beladona | the difference is a matter of backend cost |
| 07:21.48 | Esamynn | they are bringing up new servers all the time though |
| 07:21.49 | Beladona | a) distribute users among existing servers |
| 07:21.58 | Beladona | b) eat the cost of a new server |
| 07:22.20 | Beladona | yeah but they do both |
| 07:22.32 | futrtrubl | but they don't distributed users, they just move the problem from one server to another |
| 07:22.32 | Beladona | maks the most sense to me |
| 07:22.33 | Esamynn | they really need to just bite the bullet and buy a dozen or 2 dozen servers, they'd be better off for it in the long run |
| 07:22.51 | Beladona | not true futr |
| 07:23.00 | Beladona | it causes problems sure, but not everyone moves |
| 07:23.19 | Esamynn | ok, they don't move the problem, but they spread it around :( |
| 07:23.57 | Beladona | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.59 | Esamynn | which annoys people like me who had a server with a good population level before |
| 07:24.08 | futrtrubl | I think it would be better if they offered a selection of targets for transfer. |
| 07:24.27 | Esamynn | people never like to bite the bullet, even when they'd be better off for it :( |
| 07:24.32 | Esamynn | companies more so |
| 07:24.48 | Beladona | playing with money isn't always safe |
| 07:25.50 | Esamynn | meaning? |
| 07:27.08 | Beladona | I mean that a company can't always afford to just throw money at problems |
| 07:27.08 | Beladona | alternatives are always worth exploring |
| 07:27.39 | Beladona | I know from experience that technical cost is a bottomless pit |
| 07:27.39 | Cair | oh god yes |
| 07:27.45 | Esamynn | yes, I know |
| 07:28.52 | Beladona | 2 hours to finish uploading my compares |
| 07:28.55 | Beladona | my god |
| 07:29.12 | Codayus | Position: 371 ETA: 55 min. Umm...dude, not cool! |
| 07:29.17 | Esamynn | I don't hate the idea of server transfers, in my mind, they just need to be more careful with them, and avoid causing queues on the transfer target servers |
| 07:29.41 | Codayus | ETA back down to 30 min. I guess that's better...sort of... |
| 07:31.25 | Esamynn | and I have a hard time believing that they couldn't easily justify 6 or 12 servers to alliviate the queue problems, nailing that problem would be a great plus from a customer service view |
| 07:31.45 | Beladona | agreed |
| 07:31.58 | Beladona | I sure wouldn't want to pay for it though |
| 07:32.22 | Beladona | lets put it this way |
| 07:32.28 | Beladona | if they just put up servers all the time |
| 07:32.42 | Beladona | our subscription rates would likely go up |
| 07:32.43 | Esamynn | exactly the problem, it all comes down to biting the bullet when you have to, and people (and companies) generally hate to do it |
| 07:33.59 | Esamynn | well they could do it one at a time, for instance, the group of servers that came up last week, instead of having them all new, use 1 or 2 for aliviating queue problems |
| 07:35.15 | Esamynn | but they seem to have something against allowing transfers to an empty server, which simply don't understand |
| 07:36.42 | Esamynn | if they are afraid of an imbalance level wise, they could do signups for transfers prior and pull the right accounts to get some sort of balance |
| 07:37.02 | Tain | It's the imbalance economy-wise. |
| 07:37.44 | Esamynn | I would think that if you put in a spread of levels then the economy would balance itself out |
| 07:37.53 | Tain | You start on a brand new empty server, throw a bunch of max level and tradeskill characters on there, and they control the economy from day one. |
| 07:38.14 | Esamynn | nah, i'm not proposing they allow it to be only max levels that move |
| 07:38.31 | Tain | And then deal with the complaints from people because you normalized across levels of who could and couldn't move? |
| 07:39.00 | Esamynn | they'd have to control the transfer process more directly, and allow people to sign-up for transfer as a group, etc. |
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| 07:39.37 | Tain | I'm just not sure how all of those extra layers of work actually helps anything. |
| 07:40.44 | Esamynn | I don't know, i'm just rambing on really, the only thing I am sure of is that the current way of doing it is not being executed well enough, servers that are the target of a transfer should NOT end up with a queue because of said transfer |
| 07:40.44 | Tain | Or even works. It sounds good, but accounts are not spread equally across levels. So you're still going to end up with mostly level 60s. |
| 07:41.25 | Tain | As opposed to other games that have simply not let you log in at all in the past when servers are too congested. :) |
| 07:42.31 | Esamynn | don't take me wrong, i'm not saying that we don't have it pretty good, but there is room for improvement and the need imo |
| 07:43.12 | Esamynn | take my server for example, say the let 1500 active accounts transfered, we now get queues of 200-350 people sometimes, to me, they should have cut that transfer off around 1000 instead of 1500 |
| 07:44.35 | Tain | Maybe so, hopefully they would learn from that if that is the case and cut off lower in the future. |
| 07:45.13 | Tain | It's still a more positive sign that things are attempted to be done rather than ignoring it entirely. |
| 07:46.10 | Esamynn | still leaves us with Queues though, and other problems, until that transfer, my server was one of those that was almost never down |
| 07:46.30 | Codayus | Hey, my server is now only the 2nd worst alliance:horde ratio! |
| 07:46.46 | Esamynn | ours is pretty bad too |
| 07:46.46 | Osagasu | heh |
| 07:46.57 | Osagasu | Dark Iron has a pretty even one |
| 07:47.11 | Codayus | Lightbringer is ~2.7 : 1. |
| 07:47.11 | Esamynn | only 2 horde guilds in BWL that I can think of, compared to at least 5 or 6 on the alliance side |
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| 07:47.53 | Beladona|sleep | night guys |
| 07:47.54 | LedMirage | Good evening :) |
| 07:48.01 | LedMirage | hi and bye Bela |
| 07:48.02 | Cair | hey hey LedMirage! |
| 07:48.05 | Cair | night Bela |
| 07:48.08 | Esamynn | night Bela |
| 07:48.17 | LedMirage | hola Cair :) |
| 07:48.59 | LedMirage | Just taking a break from Everquest 2, forum tweaking and mod sorting |
| 07:49.42 | Esamynn | sorry, make that 5 alliance: 2 horde guilds in BWL on my server, with 13 alliance and 4 horde at or beyond Ragnaros |
| 07:49.55 | LedMirage | Do you guys know if WoW 1.9 is coming out this coming Tuesday for sure? |
| 07:50.03 | Esamynn | i'm pretty sure it is not |
| 07:50.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I doubt it, they have another patch for the test realm soon |
| 07:50.12 | LedMirage | that is GOOD hehehe |
| 07:50.42 | LedMirage | gives me sometime to actually sleep :) |
| 07:51.03 | Esamynn | the reason I say that is because slouken added something new into 1.9 on Friday, which NEVER happens in the last week before release |
| 07:51.09 | Cair | ~sleep |
| 07:51.11 | purl | rumour has it, sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 07:51.45 | Esamynn | lol, i'm very tempted to correct purl on that one :P |
| 07:52.08 | LedMirage | sleep... mixed feelings about it still :P |
| 07:52.24 | Tain | Sleep is for those who can't handle insomnia. |
| 07:52.28 | Cair | sleep is for the weak |
| 07:52.55 | Osagasu | sleep is also for the weak |
| 07:53.02 | Osagasu | ~sleep is also for the weak |
| 07:53.03 | purl | ACTION sends is also for the weak to bed without supper |
| 07:53.03 | Osagasu | :P |
| 07:53.05 | LedMirage | Caffeine doesn't work, playing games keeps me up all night |
| 07:53.52 | Osagasu | Sleep is for people who don't get enough sex. |
| 07:54.03 | futrtrubl | Cair, what's your char on Azjol? |
| 07:54.18 | Cair | gee, I wonder |
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| 07:54.32 | Osagasu | Cairenn |
| 07:54.34 | futrtrubl | ahh |
| 07:54.34 | Cair | hey Eraphine| |
| 07:54.56 | Cair | grats kergoth! |
| 07:55.14 | LedMirage | Man i do miss playing WoW |
| 07:55.56 | kergoth | LedMirage: not playing anymore? |
| 07:56.01 | LedMirage | I really wish WoW had somekind of mentor system |
| 07:56.20 | LedMirage | not actively, my account has always been up and I do roam every other day, but not play no |
| 07:56.52 | LedMirage | I don't like to solo at all, and trying to keep up a group of players at around the same level is pretty much mission impossible! |
| 07:56.57 | LedMirage | we tried :( |
| 07:57.39 | kergoth | ah |
| 07:57.43 | Esamynn | you guys have no idea how hard it is to restrain myself from telling purl that caffine is for the weak and a *very* poor subsitute for sleep :P |
| 07:57.44 | LedMirage | I mean we maxed out our initial characters, but our other friends and relatives who play less could never catch up, made new characters tried to keep up but when it's more than one person it just won't happen |
| 07:58.05 | Codayus | Yay, through the queue! That only took 53 minutes! |
| 07:58.05 | LedMirage | I think you just die ;) |
| 07:58.06 | kergoth | LedMirage: been there, done that. you just need a good guild |
| 07:58.20 | AnduinLothar | lil easier to stick together once u get to 60 |
| 07:58.41 | LedMirage | see that's the thing, we have a good group been around since 1996, our problem is we are so close that we are not large in numbers |
| 07:58.45 | Esamynn | I've done scholo a grand total of once |
| 07:58.53 | Esamynn | and i'll probably never go there again |
| 07:59.37 | Esamynn | I did strath baron too many times and never did get Wildheart kilt |
| 07:59.55 | LedMirage | We joined a bigger guild and did raids, just not happy with a lot of l33t phat lewt monkeys treating you as class and level and not who you are |
| 07:59.59 | Esamynn | but then I got in with an up and coming Raiding guild and I haven't looked back since |
| 08:00.29 | LedMirage | Just had no luck with larger guilds in Whisperwind |
| 08:00.48 | Esamynn | my guild is no bigger than it has to be, less than 200 characters I think, don't remember how many accounts |
| 08:00.57 | Esamynn | we like to keep our group close knit |
| 08:01.30 | Esamynn | working on the drakes in BWL atm |
| 08:01.46 | kergoth | i like strat & scholo, course i've never done mc, bwl, or zg :\ |
| 08:01.47 | kergoth | need to fix that |
| 08:01.48 | LedMirage | It doesn't help that we change games like we change underwear, right now playing Everquest 2, two weeks ago City of Villains :O |
| 08:01.54 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:02.06 | Kaelten|Releasin | hey led hows it goign |
| 08:02.10 | LedMirage | hey hey |
| 08:02.51 | LedMirage | going good, totally out of a *normal* sleeping schedule now after staying up till 6am two days in a row :O |
| 08:03.01 | Kaelten | hehe, been there doing that |
| 08:03.16 | LedMirage | wake up and I'm thinking oh yeah it's about 11am... look at the clock 7pm gah! |
| 08:03.20 | LedMirage | i hate that hehe |
| 08:03.24 | Kaelten | lmao |
| 08:03.37 | Kaelten | I have a 2 year old that can't happen to me any more |
| 08:03.51 | Esamynn | well, i'll catch you all later |
| 08:03.56 | LedMirage | like right now, it feels like it's 9pm or so... nah 3am |
| 08:04.04 | LedMirage | laters Esa, good talking with you |
| 08:04.05 | Kaelten | Iwak up and I'm thinking oh ya it's about 11 am ... look at the clock 6am |
| 08:04.20 | Kaelten | how can you play eq2, I Could never get into that one at all |
| 08:04.28 | Kaelten | only game I've played since beta (mmo wise) is wow |
| 08:04.31 | LedMirage | Really having fun with it right now |
| 08:04.54 | Kaelten | thats cool |
| 08:05.01 | LedMirage | I've played every major MMO released from day one except Shadowbane, started with Ultima Online |
| 08:05.18 | Kaelten | ever get tired of people saying OMG yer so keel, wheres the update? |
| 08:05.54 | LedMirage | oh on the forums... man it got crazy, were you around for the server crashing due to traffic ? :( |
| 08:06.06 | LedMirage | that had something to do with the slow down lol |
| 08:06.06 | Kaelten | I played UO, a little, then EQ, then I took a break, and tried AO and a few others |
| 08:06.13 | Kaelten | lmao, ya I saw that |
| 08:06.16 | Kaelten | was kinda funny |
| 08:06.18 | LedMirage | AO was good when it came out |
| 08:06.27 | Kaelten | it was different which was neat |
| 08:06.34 | Kaelten | I played SWG for about a year and a half |
| 08:06.39 | LedMirage | yeah we were shocked at the mass traffic on patch day, just insane |
| 08:06.42 | Kaelten | then left it for wow |
| 08:07.02 | LedMirage | oh don't remind me about SWG, i was a shuttle 3 beta tester |
| 08:07.12 | Kaelten | Tried Horizons and Lineage II |
| 08:07.22 | Codayus | !!!!! Crashed wow. |
| 08:07.22 | LedMirage | beta tested for close to a year, you all know how SWG ended up |
| 08:07.29 | Tain | AO had new and good ideas when it came out. It was not a good game when it came out. :) |
| 08:07.35 | Kaelten | hehe I was a weaponsmith, had net worth of around 250 m credits |
| 08:07.44 | LedMirage | It was buggy as heck (AO) |
| 08:07.46 | Codayus | Back into the queue. Position 771, estimated time: 26 minutes. |
| 08:07.59 | Kaelten | Tain: if memory servers most of their issues had to do with the transfer protocal they used |
| 08:08.13 | Kaelten | oh Led, I've been meaning to say thanks. |
| 08:08.20 | LedMirage | really, second worse MMO release i've experienced, the absolute worse MMO release was WWII online |
| 08:08.38 | Kaelten | my friend said WWII wouldn't even install on his machine. |
| 08:08.49 | LedMirage | For what? *looks around with a guilty face* |
| 08:08.57 | Tain | Nah, Kaelten. That was just something that got jumped on because someone posted a big technical sounding explaining of why UDP was bad. |
| 08:09.17 | LedMirage | oh man it was hideous, they had ONE server for WWII online with a cap of 2,000 players, there were over 11k people trying to play |
| 08:09.29 | Kaelten | lol, for the compilation, beforeI stumbled across that I was using cosmos. It kick started me into learning more about mods and becoming a mod author. |
| 08:09.38 | LedMirage | they had a 79mb patch on day one and the best you could get from them was under 1kb/sec |
| 08:09.53 | Kaelten | wow thats bad |
| 08:10.14 | Kaelten | Tain: ya that was it, don't remember too much about that. although he may have made some valid points <shrugs> |
| 08:10.43 | LedMirage | cool, I actually have the same to say to Mondinga, I started using GypsyMod when WoW came out and that got me started :) |
| 08:10.54 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 08:10.54 | Cair | okay guys, sleep time for the rangerette |
| 08:11.02 | LedMirage | nite Cair! |
| 08:11.04 | Kaelten | ya, Turan actually had Trimble Epic to blame |
| 08:11.07 | Kaelten | night Karen. |
| 08:11.12 | Cair | errr, okay, where the hell did that come from? god, I haven't said that in like 2 years now |
| 08:11.25 | LedMirage | rangerette? |
| 08:11.30 | Cair | yeah |
| 08:11.34 | Kaelten | lol |
| 08:11.38 | Cair | female ranger, eq |
| 08:11.38 | LedMirage | hmm Everquest 2 perhaps? |
| 08:11.50 | LedMirage | cool :) what server did you use to play in? |
| 08:11.55 | Cair | it should be "huntress" now |
| 08:12.09 | Cair | I just seem to have stepped back a couple of years |
| 08:12.16 | LedMirage | i was in Xegony, had a lot of funny moments there hehe like ... killing a GM |
| 08:12.33 | LedMirage | March 19th, 1999 |
| 08:13.11 | LedMirage | I am sure if I go to EQ1 right now that I'll find most of my old guildmates still playing :O |
| 08:13.29 | Kaelten | lol |
| 08:13.29 | LedMirage | I could never get them to play other games! |
| 08:13.39 | Cair | I was on E'ci |
| 08:13.58 | Kaelten | heard the author of benecast is going to update it sometime in the next month or so. |
| 08:13.59 | Tain | Most of the guild I played with moved to WoW en masse. |
| 08:14.03 | Kaelten | not sure if it will actualyl happen. |
| 08:14.17 | Tain | But I had quit EQ long before, just kept in touch with the good people. |
| 08:14.28 | LedMirage | If any of you were there on the early days, nothing beats having the whole zone in the Oasis running for their life along the beach with LOCKJAW killing everyone |
| 08:14.39 | Kaelten | lol, I don't know about that. |
| 08:14.45 | Kaelten | it was stressfull |
| 08:15.01 | Kaelten | I had a friend who's poor mage got logged out on the third pillar never to be seen again |
| 08:15.06 | LedMirage | a long trail of corpses along the beach towards north rho, lockjaw undefeated, everyone running for their lives, it was hillarious |
| 08:15.19 | Tain | Once I started WoW and it didn't take long for them to all start again with the guild raids three nights a week, MC over and over again, I remembered why I quit EQ. |
| 08:15.26 | Kaelten | hehe, don't forget the giant when someone would pull him to the beach |
| 08:15.40 | LedMirage | Yeah the "end game" is not that much fun for me either |
| 08:16.02 | Cair | there really *is* a reason why I'm not 60 yet, and it's not the one everyone thinks |
| 08:16.06 | LedMirage | oh LOL, someone afk or staring at their book on that pier then sand giant walks by STOMP |
| 08:16.43 | Cair | I got *so* burned out on the high end game in EQ, that I refuse to even *get to* the high end in WoW |
| 08:16.51 | Kaelten | lol |
| 08:16.54 | LedMirage | I like to have fun in the game, never like rushing to level up, but i just play so much it kinda happens anyways hehe |
| 08:17.09 | Cair | it's got nothing to do with the mods or the forums or anything |
| 08:17.19 | Cair | contrary to what everyone thinks |
| 08:17.38 | Tain | I do think that the pinnacle of the worst example of people having to compete for a single spawn was people trying to get JBoots in Najena. |
| 08:17.39 | LedMirage | I don't blame ya Cai, the end game is... i don't know, a refusal to accept a characters final goal, at least to me |
| 08:18.02 | Tain | That's why I quit playing my 60 Mage and started over on a new server, Cair. |
| 08:18.09 | Kaelten | well when the expansion comes out you can finally hit 60 |
| 08:18.15 | Cair | yeah |
| 08:18.32 | Cair | anyway, right, I was going to bed ... |
| 08:18.33 | Tain | I felt like I had to rush to 60 to be with the guild doing MC, and whenI got there realized I missed all the fun in the game. |
| 08:18.39 | Cair | *wanders off in a daze* |
| 08:18.40 | LedMirage | I made level 60 with my hunter back in December last year, I am looking to start over with a good guild but they're hard to find |
| 08:18.47 | LedMirage | nite Cair :) |
| 08:19.07 | Cair | Led, you have your nick registered? |
| 08:19.15 | LedMirage | where on IRC? |
| 08:19.16 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:19.25 | LedMirage | oh i'll do that, probably smart |
| 08:19.27 | Cair | then /msg nickserv identify <password> |
| 08:19.56 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.04 | Cair | not on all clients AnduinLothar |
| 08:20.14 | Cair | example, won't work on Gaim, as I'm using |
| 08:20.34 | Cair | depends on the irc client |
| 08:20.35 | LedMirage | done - me thinks :O |
| 08:20.41 | Cair | log out and back in |
| 08:20.46 | LedMirage | okkies brb |
| 08:20.53 | *** part/#wowi-lounge LedMirage (n=LedMirag@cpe-65-189-243-48.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 08:21.30 | Tain | On the other hand I can't get past the "sub-game" of creating character costumes in City of Villians. |
| 08:21.31 | *** join/#wowi-lounge LedMirage (n=LedMirag@cpe-65-189-243-48.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 08:21.35 | Cair | if you did it right, it should have asked you to identify when you logged back in ... |
| 08:21.43 | LedMirage | hmm it didnt |
| 08:21.54 | Iriel | Heh, I have that problem in CoV to an extent also |
| 08:21.57 | LedMirage | oh it did one sec |
| 08:22.06 | LedMirage | I LOVE COH/COV!!! |
| 08:22.26 | LedMirage | ah yes Cair it worked |
| 08:22.29 | Cair | good |
| 08:22.33 | LedMirage | i'm sooo rusty with IRC |
| 08:22.43 | LedMirage | you guys made me reinstall it ;) |
| 08:22.45 | Tain | I was just saying how I've been too enthralled with creating new characters/costumes to even play that much of CoV, Led. |
| 08:22.59 | LedMirage | I just love fighting in CoV |
| 08:23.23 | LedMirage | it is fun as heck for me, full group difficulty cranked up, baddies flying all over the place, i laugh so much i hurt when i play that game |
| 08:23.35 | Tain | I have a 38ish (forget exactly) Fire Controller from when I used to play. |
| 08:23.41 | Cair | heh, tell me about it Led, they sucked me back in too, I hadn't been on IRC in like 5 years :p |
| 08:23.50 | Tain | Fights were so fun, so chaotic. |
| 08:23.51 | LedMirage | I have a level 50 hero and 2 level 20+ villains |
| 08:24.09 | kergoth | "I'm taking your sister under my protection here. If anything happens to her..... I'll get very choked up. Honestly. There could be tears." |
| 08:24.09 | LedMirage | yeah same Cair, I can't even remember when I used IRC last :O |
| 08:24.13 | kergoth | Serenity is such a good movie |
| 08:24.23 | Tain | But everyone I played with left and I could never get really good groups after that, even though I tried. |
| 08:24.35 | Cair | Led, check your windows, I sent you a Private message :p |
| 08:24.41 | LedMirage | looking |
| 08:25.12 | Tain | I was the last holdout... the SuperGroup I joined disbanded, joined another one, they merged into yet another, and then made it mandatory for all members to have TeamSpeak. |
| 08:25.22 | Tain | That was the last straw for me. |
| 08:25.33 | Cair | HEADS UP - WoWI is coming down shortly for about 10 minutes while we get it switched over to the new db |
| 08:25.49 | Osagasu | :O |
| 08:25.56 | LedMirage | Team Speak is nice, we've been using voice comms since 98 |
| 08:25.58 | Cair | so if you try to hit the site up and it's down, just give it a few minutes and it should be back |
| 08:26.51 | Tain | It is nice, but the mandatory guild rules are just too much like having a job to me. Not worth it. |
| 08:28.33 | Cair | Bela, Kael, don't try to post anything, site's down (Dolby talking to me on another channel) |
| 08:31.12 | Cair | yo, you didn't have to stop talking! |
| 08:31.28 | Tain | I had to pee. |
| 08:31.31 | Cair | tmi |
| 08:31.55 | Kaelten | I see that.... |
| 08:32.01 | Cair | CoH/CoV - so cool, yadda yadda *restarts the conversation* |
| 08:32.03 | Kaelten | dang it and here I was prepairing patch notes |
| 08:32.35 | Tain | That's what notepad is for, Kael! |
| 08:32.51 | Kaelten | Tain: ya well they're done I was going to post em... ok go post em somewhere else first |
| 08:33.05 | LedMirage | sorry had to go afk :O |
| 08:33.12 | Cair | >< Kael |
| 08:33.27 | Cair | the only other place you'd better be postin' em is Ace :p |
| 08:33.49 | Cair | or are you still being a traitor and using the other sites? hmmmm? :p |
| 08:34.20 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 08:34.25 | Tain | There are other sites? |
| 08:34.32 | Kaelten | lol |
| 08:34.43 | LedMirage | hmm am i a traitor? I kinda run another site :O |
| 08:34.45 | AnduinLothar | ya, u know. the ones with users that downlaod mods? |
| 08:34.50 | Kaelten | I run another site too. |
| 08:35.02 | Cair | www.curse-gaming.com , www.wowguru.com , www.ui.worldofwar.net |
| 08:35.12 | Ktron|Night | hey hey hey |
| 08:35.14 | Tain | Nope, never heard of them. |
| 08:35.20 | AnduinLothar | world of war isn't a site. it doesn't count |
| 08:35.22 | Cair | hey Ktron|Night |
| 08:35.30 | Ktron|Night | Isn't it just ui.worldofwar.net? |
| 08:36.09 | LedMirage | www.insomniax.net on-line since 1996! :P |
| 08:36.36 | LedMirage | (that means we had a lot of really bad HTML) |
| 08:36.43 | Cair | and if I really had a major problem with the other sites, do you honestly think I'd have staff members from them in here, a special private multi-site forum set up at wowi so we can talk to each other privately about you loser coders, and have all their addies memorized, hmmm? |
| 08:36.52 | AnduinLothar | mmm aparently for upper division writting req at UCI one of the offered courses is "GAY & LESBIAN DRAMA" |
| 08:37.19 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MoonWolf (i=MoonWolf@ip51ccaa81.speed.planet.nl) |
| 08:37.31 | Tain | Don't worry, it won't be long before one of the reqs is, "MMORPG Drama" |
| 08:37.40 | MoonWolf | ? |
| 08:37.45 | Cair | lol |
| 08:37.54 | Cair | site's back up |
| 08:38.13 | AnduinLothar | well the upper div one i have to take is lame "TECHNICAL WRITING " |
| 08:38.27 | Ktron | and language studies majors will have to take 'OMGPWNT h4><0rz 1337sp34k!!!1!' |
| 08:38.30 | Tain | A must have for any aspiring coder! |
| 08:39.11 | AnduinLothar | hmmm i could take "MULTIMEDIA IN EDUCATION" for a multicultural requirement.. |
| 08:39.24 | LedMirage | lol that OMGPWNT thing reminded me of something... any of you guys watch G4's X-play at all? |
| 08:39.50 | MoonWolf | how about "Bad Commenting: Puns, spleling and In jokes" |
| 08:40.09 | LedMirage | they had this silly segment about the Atari ET game and they had this photo of a 5 year old with big fat bold letters saying "I CAN STILL TASTE THE SUX!" for some reason it just cracks me up hehe |
| 08:40.11 | Tain | No, but I actually stopped watching G4 soon after the merge with TechTV. For some reason I felt like they took some of the bad parts of both instead of the best of each. |
| 08:40.12 | Osagasu | G4 deserves to DIE |
| 08:40.30 | LedMirage | I do agree, the whole merge didn't make me very happy |
| 08:40.37 | Osagasu | They basically took TechTV, ripped all but one of the shows out and tossed them in the trash |
| 08:40.42 | LedMirage | but we still watch X-play on and off |
| 08:41.01 | Tain | They did about the same with the previous G4 lineup too, Osagasu. |
| 08:41.10 | Osagasu | and then added in 23.5 hours worth of ads disguised as gameing shows. |
| 08:42.11 | LedMirage | i can't believe they replaced them |
| 08:42.23 | Tain | I didn't actually realize how many Badges there were in CoV. |
| 08:42.32 | Osagasu | then they canceled the show |
| 08:42.35 | Osagasu | hah |
| 08:42.41 | Osagasu | shoulda lkept Leo, bitch! |
| 08:42.44 | LedMirage | oh there's got to be a ton, my character in CoH has close to 200 :O |
| 08:43.21 | LedMirage | Tain, not sure what server you play in but we play in Guardian, we're not there everyday though, with EQ2 and all but we have a guild there |
| 08:43.53 | Tain | I just started on Justice this week with two other people. Who knows how long they'll last though. heh |
| 08:44.08 | Tain | I think my previous characters were on Victory, from before. |
| 08:45.51 | Kaelten | New AceGUI up for anyone who is interested |
| 08:46.06 | LedMirage | I know what you mean, even in our group where we almost all know each other (family, RL friends, etc) it is hard to get everyone together to play the same game at the same time |
| 08:46.10 | Tain | With documentation? :) |
| 08:46.16 | Kaelten | nope not yet |
| 08:46.23 | Kaelten | but more and more example code is becoming available |
| 08:46.35 | Tain | hehe yeah that's what I keep telling people about Visor too. |
| 08:46.38 | Kaelten | I'll see what I can do about documentation soon. |
| 08:46.54 | futrtrubl | in a while loop, the conditions are evaluated at the end of the loop right? |
| 08:47.07 | MoonWolf | does it include the patches Rowne made for his newest addon ? |
| 08:47.23 | futrtrubl | or does it break as soon as the condition is false? |
| 08:47.26 | Cair | okay, now I really am going to bed |
| 08:47.27 | Cair | night all |
| 08:47.30 | MoonWolf | suuuure |
| 08:47.31 | Tain | while x < 4 do sort of loop? Evaluates right at the beginning of the loop. |
| 08:47.31 | MoonWolf | night. |
| 08:47.36 | futrtrubl | sleep well Cair |
| 08:47.36 | Tain | Nite Cair. |
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| 08:48.19 | LedMirage | I should *TRY* and get some sleep myself |
| 08:48.32 | futrtrubl | say I have x = 5 somewhere in the middle, will it wait till that loop finishes or will it break streight away? |
| 08:48.40 | Tain | I was thinking the same thing, but then I thought... I'd just end up waking up again tomorrow. |
| 08:48.43 | Kaelten | MoonWolf:yes |
| 08:48.48 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 08:48.53 | Tain | It'll wait until the loop finishes and tests the condition again. |
| 08:48.58 | Osagasu | I don't see any new AceGUI |
| 08:49.01 | futrtrubl | k |
| 08:49.16 | LedMirage | nite guys, was good getting to chat with you |
| 08:49.19 | Kaelten | Osa: its been uploaded at wowi and there is a new thread in the forums |
| 08:49.23 | LedMirage | i'll try to not be a stranger here :) |
| 08:49.27 | Tain | Have a good one Led |
| 08:49.31 | Kaelten | night Led. |
| 08:49.33 | LedMirage | am off! nite! |
| 08:49.37 | Kaelten | good luck sleeping |
| 08:49.47 | Cair|sleep | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4253 |
| 08:49.48 | LedMirage | lol am going to need it |
| 08:49.52 | Kaelten | I'm going to update wowace's download page soon. |
| 08:50.03 | Osagasu | almost 4 here |
| 08:50.08 | *** part/#wowi-lounge LedMirage (n=LedMirag@cpe-65-189-243-48.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 08:50.09 | Osagasu | I'll be going too after I DL |
| 08:50.41 | Osagasu | I have a feeling I'll fall asleep as my ear hits the pillow |
| 08:50.42 | Kaelten | osa: want the new KC_AutoRepair? |
| 08:50.47 | Osagasu | oh yea |
| 08:50.50 | Kaelten | I'm getting ready to post it. |
| 08:50.55 | Kaelten | I'll just dcc it to you. |
| 08:51.05 | Osagasu | DCC doesn't work for me |
| 08:51.32 | Kaelten | oh ok |
| 08:51.42 | Osagasu | my router sees to that. >.< |
| 08:51.44 | Kaelten | well if you can wait for me to write a readme file and some patch notes I'll have it out tonight |
| 08:51.55 | Kaelten | if not it'll be there in the morning |
| 08:52.03 | Osagasu | I'll just pick it up tomorrow |
| 08:52.07 | Kaelten | k |
| 08:52.10 | Osagasu | won't miss it tonight anyways |
| 08:52.13 | Osagasu | I'm off to bed |
| 08:52.14 | Osagasu | nini |
| 08:52.16 | Kaelten | I'm sure I've got a logic bug, I always miss something |
| 08:52.20 | Kaelten | night |
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| 08:54.06 | WarDar | Any one here mind if I ask some questions about LUA? |
| 08:54.14 | Kaelten | I'll answer if I can |
| 08:54.54 | Tain | I'd try to answer as well but... I'm already half-asleep so I figure I might as well just go all the way. |
| 08:54.55 | WarDar | Im writeing my own mod, I got most of it working, but it is a little cluncky right now |
| 08:55.46 | WarDar | What I am trying to do is get it to load a main core UI, then have that mod load a character page dynamically based on character name |
| 08:56.12 | Kaelten | hmm, what you mean the main core ui? |
| 08:56.29 | WarDar | the way I am doing it right now is writeing a new UI for each character and then useing if LoadAddOn("Wardar_" .. UnitName("Player")) == nil then |
| 08:56.40 | WarDar | type calls |
| 08:56.56 | WarDar | a base set of instructions all the character share |
| 08:57.15 | WarDar | but i don't want to load my healing function on my hunter character for instance |
| 08:58.04 | Kaelten | probably just be easiest to disable the ones you don't want to run |
| 08:58.15 | WarDar | right now if I try to call all the character sheets at the same time, they all assign themselves to the same buttons, and just get fouled |
| 08:58.39 | WarDar | i know, but im trying to see if there is a hard way that makes it easier |
| 08:58.59 | WarDar | (yes, I am that lazy) |
| 08:59.01 | futrtrubl | use perchar savedvars? |
| 08:59.13 | WarDar | some, not many |
| 08:59.20 | Kaelten | hmm, I'm still not sure what you are honestly trying to do, to top that off I'm tired, worked 8 hours did 6 hours of school work now I'm doing 3 hours of mod releasing. |
| 08:59.23 | WarDar | healing tables and the like |
| 08:59.47 | WarDar | lol |
| 08:59.49 | Cair|sleep | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=274458&p=1&tmp=1#post274458 |
| 09:00.28 | WarDar | yep, thats the one I started |
| 09:00.58 | MoonWolf | you are sleeping. |
| 09:00.59 | Cair|sleep | I know, that's why I linked it, thought it might make more sense to Kael if he saw the thread |
| 09:01.01 | futrtrubl | ahhh, I see |
| 09:01.10 | Cair|sleep | yeah, I know, I know :p |
| 09:01.37 | futrtrubl | I think I know what to do |
| 09:02.39 | MoonWolf | you need to wait untill 1.9 where you can set addons to be loaded per char. |
| 09:02.42 | MoonWolf | i think |
| 09:02.45 | Kaelten | ok to answer your question in post |
| 09:03.00 | Kaelten | you can take the lua from the other folders and put them in the main folder |
| 09:03.04 | Kaelten | however they will ALL load |
| 09:03.13 | Kaelten | you can only loadondemand whole addons not just files |
| 09:03.13 | WarDar | The way I currently have it, I have AddOns folders for my Core, my generic template, and several of the characters, I want to be able to put them all in the same folder, but still dynamically load them |
| 09:03.23 | futrtrubl | create a lua file with one big function containing everything, in it have if (UnitName("Player") == blah) your code for this player; end |
| 09:03.25 | WarDar | ah |
| 09:03.44 | futrtrubl | then call that func from your main lua |
| 09:04.09 | futrtrubl | then list that lua file in your xml |
| 09:04.09 | Kaelten | there is one way that comes to mind and basically its storing the code in your savedvariables files per character and then calling RunScript on it depending on which one loads |
| 09:04.24 | Kaelten | its nasty but it would work, after 1.9 comes out |
| 09:04.31 | WarDar | is there a way to add a function to the global function list after load, or only when the LUA gets loaded? |
| 09:04.46 | WarDar | Ouch |
| 09:04.49 | futrtrubl | you can add one after load |
| 09:05.46 | futrtrubl | put a function declaration within a function. then call the wrapping function when you want the function loaded |
| 09:05.46 | WarDar | thats the main root of what I am trying to do, if you can tell me how, it would help immensely |
| 09:06.36 | Kaelten | not totally sure war |
| 09:06.46 | Kaelten | basically you can run lua code in game by doing DoScript() I tink |
| 09:06.50 | Kaelten | or its RunScript() |
| 09:06.53 | Kaelten | one of the two |
| 09:07.18 | WarDar | does that look like: |
| 09:07.20 | Kaelten | you'd have to load the lua code into a variable (via you're saved variables done per character in 1.9 ) and then call that function |
| 09:07.27 | WarDar | function wraper() |
| 09:07.32 | WarDar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.37 | WarDar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.38 | WarDar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:07.40 | WarDar | end |
| 09:07.41 | Kaelten | kinda |
| 09:07.42 | futrtrubl | RunScript() but unless you are writing code ingame it doesn't make scense |
| 09:07.56 | Kaelten | fut: you can store the lua in the SV file and then pull it back out |
| 09:08.06 | futrtrubl | that's what I /msged you with WarDar |
| 09:08.39 | WarDar | ah, so I see |
| 09:09.05 | futrtrubl | yes, but if it's going to be coded by you outside the game you might as well have it as a real func |
| 09:09.24 | WarDar | let me try that, thanks for all your help |
| 09:11.45 | futrtrubl | sent you some more code WarDar |
| 09:18.23 | AnduinLothar | that's pretty nifty... fabric controler |
| 09:18.46 | AnduinLothar | here's an ipod interface integrated on the arm of a ski-jacket: http://www.pcmag.com/slideshow_viewer/0,1205,l=166561&s=26244&a=166559&po=13,00.asp |
| 09:23.44 | futrtrubl | Cair, go to sleep! |
| 09:26.46 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 09:29.50 | Iriel | Hm.. when did the test server patch again? |
| 09:35.04 | Kaelten | KC_AutoRepair is uploaded, and I'm asleep |
| 09:35.07 | Kaelten | gnight guys. |
| 09:35.15 | Kolth | *downloads |
| 09:35.22 | Kolth | Thanks Kaelten! |
| 09:37.44 | Ktron | purl, Cair|sleep |
| 09:37.45 | purl | from memory, cair|sleep is supposed to be sleeping! |
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| 09:41.05 | Ktron | purl, night |
| 09:41.06 | purl | G'night ktron, get out of here. |
| 09:41.20 | Ktron | and everyone else too |
| 09:41.37 | Iriel | nite |
| 09:43.22 | Kolth | When Kaelten says KC_AutoRepair is up, does that mean at WoWI? |
| 09:55.58 | krka | man you people talk a lot while I'm sleeping |
| 09:56.25 | Kolth | Sorray |
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| 10:19.53 | futrtrubl | damn it, why won't this damn texture show up!? |
| 10:21.05 | dukeku | o_O |
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| 10:35.35 | MoonWolf | Can someone here enlighten me on the way Crits are calculated ? |
| 10:37.34 | Kolth | I can try. |
| 10:38.16 | Kolth | I have been told Hits, Crits and Misses are taken out of 100%. |
| 10:38.30 | Kolth | But what do you want to know? |
| 10:38.36 | *** join/#wowi-lounge NDC|Sole (n=vladpa@222-152-201-243.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 10:38.37 | MoonWolf | Crit damage |
| 10:38.47 | MoonWolf | How do i calculate crit damage. |
| 10:38.49 | Kolth | Like what the damage range is? |
| 10:38.50 | Kolth | ahh |
| 10:39.48 | NDC|Sole | i believe crit dmg is basicly just double normal dmg |
| 10:40.29 | MoonWolf | hmm |
| 10:40.34 | NDC|Sole | hm anybody have any addon requests? :) Im bored >_< |
| 10:40.36 | MoonWolf | ill try a forum search |
| 10:40.44 | Kolth | NDC, I do. |
| 10:41.10 | NDC|Sole | NDC is my guild tag :P use it for my server's irc |
| 10:41.15 | Kolth | ohhax |
| 10:41.22 | Kolth | My request is a request I have recieved. |
| 10:41.34 | NDC|Sole | lets hear it :) |
| 10:41.46 | Kolth | A + and - button for the Target frame as well as a dispaly for current value. |
| 10:41.54 | Tekkub | I request AceBar gets finished ^^ |
| 10:41.55 | Kolth | THe value is a "Reputation with Me" |
| 10:42.12 | NDC|Sole | ahh |
| 10:42.13 | Tekkub | Kharma! |
| 10:42.28 | Tekkub | I liked that mod tho it was a tad bloated |
| 10:42.49 | Tekkub | I like your version, nice and slim |
| 10:43.12 | NDC|Sole | well I dont use the default target frame |
| 10:43.20 | NDC|Sole | so Id have to do it in a separate window |
| 10:43.23 | Tekkub | would they be numbur values or +/- vaules? |
| 10:43.28 | NDC|Sole | that could be docked next to the target frame |
| 10:43.36 | NDC|Sole | hmm Im thinking... |
| 10:43.36 | Tekkub | like "Joeninja" has kharma --- |
| 10:43.49 | Tekkub | but "Bobskilledplayer" is a ++ |
| 10:43.54 | Kolth | Tekk: I'm thinking entirely textual values. |
| 10:44.01 | NDC|Sole | either text based values |
| 10:44.02 | Kolth | Using WoW's noes. |
| 10:44.03 | Kolth | ones* |
| 10:44.14 | NDC|Sole | OR image based |
| 10:44.14 | Kolth | And similar levels of progress. |
| 10:44.17 | Tekkub | hrm, interesting |
| 10:44.19 | NDC|Sole | like have a heart for liked |
| 10:44.26 | Tekkub | I like that |
| 10:44.37 | NDC|Sole | i dunno :P images can be made |
| 10:44.42 | NDC|Sole | but Im pretty sure ive seen it done |
| 10:45.03 | Tekkub | so like, set a default %change... and the one click changes to 25% friendly |
| 10:45.28 | Tekkub | yea NDC there used to be a love/hate mod like that |
| 10:45.46 | NDC|Sole | call me sole >< |
| 10:45.52 | Tekkub | started as a KOS list |
| 10:45.58 | NDC|Sole | yea I remember KOS list |
| 10:46.02 | NDC|Sole | way back |
| 10:46.14 | NDC|Sole | well I guess I could whip one up |
| 10:46.26 | Tekkub | I like this rep idea, it's like kharma was but simpler |
| 10:46.41 | Kolth | Write it! :) |
| 10:46.56 | Tekkub | I need to go finish AceOff |
| 10:47.12 | NDC|Sole | heh |
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| 10:47.21 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 10:47.27 | NDC|Sole | i should try out Ace one of these days |
| 10:47.45 | NDC|Sole | looks like it relieves a lot of headaches |
| 10:47.50 | Tekkub | oh it's worth it.... |
| 10:47.53 | Tekkub | before you do |
| 10:47.58 | Tekkub | install my Warmup |
| 10:48.03 | shouryuu | would anyone know why in gods name my internet is so slow... |
| 10:48.04 | NDC|Sole | hahah |
| 10:48.08 | Tekkub | look at your load/reload times |
| 10:48.08 | NDC|Sole | I just found that addon today |
| 10:48.15 | NDC|Sole | its hella useful :P |
| 10:48.16 | Tekkub | then convert to ace |
| 10:48.39 | Tekkub | ^^ I know I'm amazed none of the Acers wrote this when they first started Ace |
| 10:48.46 | NDC|Sole | hehe |
| 10:48.53 | Tekkub | it's like, fundamental to proving Ace kicks ass |
| 10:48.58 | NDC|Sole | i think only prob will be the learning curve |
| 10:49.05 | Tekkub | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:49.06 | NDC|Sole | im so used to writing my way |
| 10:49.20 | Tekkub | I've been working on AeceOff all weekend |
| 10:49.23 | NDC|Sole | having to do it all different is gonna be a pain til I gues used to it |
| 10:49.27 | Tekkub | it's not that bad really |
| 10:49.27 | NDC|Sole | whats AceOff do/ |
| 10:49.47 | Tekkub | just gotta get yourself into OO mode |
| 10:49.53 | Tekkub | it's EZDismount |
| 10:50.04 | Tekkub | stripped down, then aced |
| 10:50.08 | NDC|Sole | ahh |
| 10:50.34 | NDC|Sole | what shoud I name this reputation addon? |
| 10:50.38 | Tekkub | I've had the stirpped version in my personal ConglomoMod for some time |
| 10:51.02 | Tekkub | RepWithMe? |
| 10:51.23 | NDC|Sole | hmm |
| 10:51.29 | NDC|Sole | again ..go over the idea |
| 10:51.33 | Tekkub | hrm... |
| 10:51.34 | NDC|Sole | just have a text display |
| 10:51.47 | Tekkub | ReputationPreceedsYou |
| 10:51.52 | NDC|Sole | and the + and - change the text |
| 10:51.52 | NDC|Sole | haha |
| 10:52.03 | Tekkub | Suck-o-meter |
| 10:52.04 | NDC|Sole | do you want it to be like +++ and -- rep |
| 10:52.19 | Tekkub | I think "%50 Honored" |
| 10:52.21 | NDC|Sole | or do you want it to be like Friendly/Neutral/Hated/Exalted |
| 10:52.26 | NDC|Sole | hmm |
| 10:52.34 | NDC|Sole | ok well..would anyone use it? :P |
| 10:52.41 | Tekkub | I would :) |
| 10:52.46 | Tekkub | I loved kharma |
| 10:52.52 | Tekkub | but it was too bulky |
| 10:53.08 | Tekkub | and had no real quick display |
| 10:53.21 | NDC|Sole | hmmpf |
| 10:53.26 | Tekkub | I'd love if it gave a quick chat output on party members too |
| 10:53.37 | Tekkub | when they join party |
| 10:53.39 | NDC|Sole | but whats the point? |
| 10:53.47 | NDC|Sole | you already know who you hate |
| 10:53.51 | Tekkub | I fouget who I like/hate? |
| 10:53.53 | NDC|Sole | and whos your forget |
| 10:53.58 | NDC|Sole | friend* |
| 10:54.02 | NDC|Sole | heh |
| 10:54.16 | NDC|Sole | you sure you want it to be % based? |
| 10:54.19 | Tekkub | yea but see, I add people to friends after one instance and never talk again... |
| 10:54.35 | Tekkub | but if I just rep'd em a tad then I'd know if I partied again |
| 10:54.48 | NDC|Sole | why not just hated/unfriendly/neutral/friendly/honored/revered/exalted? |
| 10:54.56 | Tekkub | my friends lists are massive, I forget who are people I actually talk to sometimes |
| 10:55.03 | NDC|Sole | lol |
| 10:55.05 | Tekkub | especially when switching servers |
| 10:55.21 | Tekkub | yea the % might bee too much |
| 10:55.25 | NDC|Sole | ive never had the situation..been on blackrock since day 1 |
| 10:55.45 | NDC|Sole | maybe instead of the word rep have it just as ++ and -- |
| 10:56.14 | Tekkub | well it's the same thing, but the words are more "immersive" |
| 10:56.20 | NDC|Sole | haha |
| 10:56.20 | Tekkub | you could do both |
| 10:56.29 | Tekkub | store it as a number diff |
| 10:56.36 | NDC|Sole | how bout, just create an options menu |
| 10:56.42 | Tekkub | display options for test or +/- |
| 10:57.11 | NDC|Sole | and store the rep as values from 0 to a user defined number |
| 10:57.18 | Tekkub | 0 = Neutral, no symbol... |
| 10:57.20 | NDC|Sole | and the user defines the text for each number |
| 10:57.32 | Tekkub | 1 = Friendly "+" |
| 10:57.35 | Tekkub | etc |
| 10:57.47 | NDC|Sole | well |
| 10:57.50 | NDC|Sole | just have it like this |
| 10:57.51 | Tekkub | I guess that way could work |
| 10:58.04 | NDC|Sole | rep[1] = "hated" |
| 10:58.05 | Tekkub | fill it with reps by default :) |
| 10:58.13 | NDC|Sole | rep[2] = "bastard" |
| 10:58.20 | Tekkub | heh |
| 10:58.24 | Tekkub | "At War" |
| 10:58.38 | NDC|Sole | rep[3] = "stranger" |
| 10:58.44 | Tekkub | Unfriendly, Hated, At War |
| 10:58.46 | NDC|Sole | have the player define the text |
| 10:58.56 | Tekkub | -4 could be "Dead to me" |
| 10:58.59 | NDC|Sole | instead of having it set out for the player, give em some customization |
| 10:59.17 | Tekkub | yea, do it like that and default to the rep labels :) |
| 10:59.24 | NDC|Sole | yep :P |
| 10:59.25 | Tekkub | but let the user change em |
| 10:59.43 | NDC|Sole | yea Ill just have a small visual table set up to do it...XML ftl >< |
| 11:00.00 | Tekkub | yar |
| 11:00.10 | NDC|Sole | oh well ive done tables before |
| 11:00.27 | NDC|Sole | so ill just take my earlier code and change it to fit this addon |
| 11:00.29 | Tekkub | I avoid XML like the plaguelands |
| 11:00.50 | NDC|Sole | XML aint much fun =\ |
| 11:01.17 | NDC|Sole | most of my addons are just small windows with a few numbers |
| 11:01.26 | NDC|Sole | but i did do an attendance addon for my guild |
| 11:01.34 | Tekkub | I like dropdown menus when I can use em, much simpler for options and makes a bit more sense to me |
| 11:01.39 | NDC|Sole | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1135 |
| 11:01.43 | NDC|Sole | mm |
| 11:02.04 | NDC|Sole | that addon too a lot of xml >< |
| 11:02.10 | Tekkub | heh |
| 11:03.13 | NDC|Sole | anyways I gotta go to slepe |
| 11:03.23 | Tekkub | heh |
| 11:03.26 | Tekkub | have fun |
| 11:03.28 | NDC|Sole | Ill work on this addon over the next few days after BWL/mc :) |
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| 11:56.16 | Malivil | Can anyone tell me the command to show FPS... i forgot |
| 11:56.24 | Malivil | i used to know 6 months ago, lol |
| 11:56.50 | Tekkub | atl-R? |
| 11:57.06 | Malivil | ok, ill try that |
| 11:59.02 | Tekkub | all else fails open the keybinding menu |
| 12:00.45 | Malivil | ... |
| 12:00.50 | Malivil | Why the hell didn't i think of that? |
| 12:01.25 | Tekkub | *shrug* obvious solutions are the hardest at times |
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| 12:04.26 | Malivil | You're right, lol |
| 12:15.05 | Malivil | Is it ok to base an AddOn off another AddOn if i give credit to the original author? |
| 12:15.12 | Kolth | Of course. |
| 12:15.19 | Kolth | It's okay to steal it without giving credit. |
| 12:15.39 | Tekkub | it's genearllay considered polite to credit the source |
| 12:15.56 | Tekkub | even if it's just an idea you took, give a quick comment in your code |
| 12:16.26 | Tekkub | I've seen a few fights over this *coughFeralFighter/CompeleteDruidcough* |
| 12:16.46 | Tekkub | I just stick a --Shamlessly "borrowed" form: in me code |
| 12:16.54 | duke|ib | make sure to change the author ;) |
| 12:17.33 | Malivil | I did |
| 12:17.36 | Malivil | lol |
| 12:17.46 | Malivil | I added credit in the code and changed the author |
| 12:17.57 | Malivil | This is my first addon by the way |
| 12:18.09 | Malivil | Its easy though because i didn't write most of it X.X |
| 12:18.22 | Tekkub | that's the best way to learn |
| 12:18.25 | duke|ib | imo that's good enough, some others might have a different view though |
| 12:18.31 | Tekkub | find something you want to change and do it |
| 12:18.34 | duke|ib | yeh |
| 12:18.45 | Tekkub | then move on to piecing a few features from diff mods together |
| 12:18.54 | Malivil | Uhh |
| 12:18.59 | Malivil | Lets see here |
| 12:19.12 | Malivil | ASA_ASHOT_CRIT = "(.+) Aimed Shot crits (.+)."; |
| 12:19.14 | duke|ib | i've never released an addon because i never write my own |
| 12:19.22 | Malivil | Would that detect a critted Aimed Shot? |
| 12:19.25 | duke|ib | i just keep modifying ones i already use :~( |
| 12:19.36 | Tekkub | uh.... maybe |
| 12:19.51 | Tekkub | give me the exact text of an aimed shot crit |
| 12:19.52 | Malivil | or should i add a "for (.+)." at the end? |
| 12:19.57 | Malivil | i owuldn't know |
| 12:20.01 | Malivil | *wouldn't |
| 12:20.07 | Malivil | i think it's like the crit of anything else |
| 12:20.10 | Tekkub | well then ya won't know till you test :P |
| 12:20.35 | Malivil | wait wait |
| 12:20.38 | Malivil | i found a ss of it |
| 12:20.40 | Malivil | lol |
| 12:20.42 | Tekkub | easiest way to make a regex is to get an example and change what you want to capture to (.+) |
| 12:20.53 | Malivil | Your Aimed Shot crits TARGET for #. |
| 12:20.54 | Malivil | So |
| 12:21.07 | Malivil | ASA_ASHOT_CRIT = "(.+) Aimed Shot crits (.+) for (.+)."; |
| 12:21.09 | Tekkub | if you're not capturing but just detecting it happened, you don't need the () |
| 12:21.25 | Tekkub | yea that'd work |
| 12:21.30 | Malivil | alright, cool |
| 12:21.37 | Malivil | Thats the only crit message there is write? |
| 12:21.39 | Malivil | *right |
| 12:21.47 | Malivil | So that's all i need to detect? |
| 12:21.50 | Tekkub | would return start, end. attacker, target, amount |
| 12:22.31 | Tekkub | one sec |
| 12:23.01 | Tekkub | COMBATHITCRITOTHEROTHER = "%s crits %s for %d."; |
| 12:23.01 | Tekkub | COMBATHITCRITOTHERSELF = "%s crits you for %d."; |
| 12:23.01 | Tekkub | COMBATHITCRITSCHOOLOTHEROTHER = "%s crits %s for %d %s damage."; |
| 12:23.01 | Tekkub | COMBATHITCRITSCHOOLOTHERSELF = "%s crits you for %d %s damage."; |
| 12:23.01 | Tekkub | COMBATHITCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER = "You crit %s for %d %s damage."; |
| 12:23.02 | Tekkub | COMBATHITCRITSELFOTHER = "You crit %s for %d."; |
| 12:23.25 | Tekkub | that's all the damage crits I see in GlobalStrings |
| 12:23.53 | Tekkub | oh wait another batch |
| 12:24.03 | Tekkub | SPELLLOGCRITOTHEROTHER = "%s's %s crits %s for %d."; |
| 12:24.03 | Tekkub | SPELLLOGCRITOTHERSELF = "%s's %s crits you for %d."; |
| 12:24.03 | Tekkub | SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLOTHEROTHER = "%s's %s crits %s for %d %s damage."; |
| 12:24.04 | Tekkub | SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLOTHERSELF = "%s's %s crits you for %d %s damage."; |
| 12:24.04 | Tekkub | SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER = "Your %s crits %s for %d %s damage."; |
| 12:24.04 | Tekkub | SPELLLOGCRITSCHOOLSELFSELF = "Your %s crits you for %d %s damage."; |
| 12:24.06 | Tekkub | SPELLLOGCRITSELFOTHER = "Your %s crits %s for %d."; |
| 12:24.08 | Tekkub | SPELLLOGCRITSELFSELF = "Your %s crits you for %d."; |
| 12:24.15 | Tekkub | there's ones for healing too |
| 12:24.26 | Malivil | Its only for Aimed Shot |
| 12:24.34 | Malivil | Its an alert if you crit an Aimed Shot |
| 12:24.38 | Tekkub | yea so slip "Aimed Shot" in |
| 12:25.10 | Tekkub | the game uses those strings and slips in attacker, spell, target, amount |
| 12:25.26 | Malivil | So i need to add another one? |
| 12:25.34 | Tekkub | and damage type in some cases "Fire Damage" |
| 12:25.42 | Tekkub | prolly not |
| 12:25.55 | Malivil | COMBATHITCRITSCHOOLSELFOTHER = "You crit %s for %d %s damage."; |
| 12:25.55 | Malivil | <Tekkub> COMBATHITCRITSELFOTHER = "You crit %s for %d."; |
| 12:26.20 | Tekkub | go use blizz's extract tool and look at the GsobalStirngs it's a great resoucre |
| 12:26.40 | Tekkub | school self other is if you inflict a type of damage |
| 12:26.46 | Tekkub | like "fire damage" |
| 12:26.53 | Tekkub | or "shadow damage" |
| 12:27.15 | Malivil | oh, ok |
| 12:27.19 | Malivil | So i only need one then |
| 12:27.20 | Malivil | good |
| 12:27.26 | Tekkub | yea, you'll only need one |
| 12:27.50 | Malivil | Anyone have a hunter that want's to try this out? |
| 12:27.52 | Tekkub | if you were looking for, say, a firebass crit you'd prolly need the school one |
| 12:28.05 | Tekkub | I have a hunter but not aimed shot |
| 12:28.36 | Malivil | alright, thanks for oyur help |
| 12:28.46 | Tekkub | aye |
| 12:29.22 | Malivil | wait |
| 12:29.27 | Malivil | i need to register an event for the crit |
| 12:30.01 | Tekkub | yea |
| 12:30.49 | Tekkub | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS prolly |
| 12:31.26 | Tekkub | maybe CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 12:31.43 | Malivil | No, its only for a crit |
| 12:31.45 | Malivil | COMBATHITCRITSELFOTHER |
| 12:32.15 | Tekkub | that's the globalstring, not an event |
| 12:32.29 | Malivil | oh... |
| 12:32.53 | Malivil | Where are the events? |
| 12:33.11 | Tekkub | http://www.wowwiki.com/Main_Page |
| 12:33.17 | Tekkub | you'll use that page a lot |
| 12:33.20 | Malivil | right |
| 12:35.33 | Malivil | I can't find one for citical damage, so would it just be on hit? |
| 12:35.55 | Malivil | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.58 | Malivil | *you |
| 12:38.25 | Tekkub | just try what sounds good till you find it |
| 12:39.35 | Malivil | ok |
| 12:39.40 | Malivil | now where should i host it |
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| 12:56.53 | Malivil | i can't find out how to upload to WoWi... lol |
| 13:00.58 | Malivil | aha! found it |
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| 13:02.50 | Malivil | but i can't upload |
| 13:02.55 | Malivil | becausei have no screenshot... |
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| 13:17.03 | Malivil | If anyone wants to test out my first AddOn, AimedShot Alert (Based on Interceptor's OverpowerAlert), you can get it here: http://www.freewebs.com/alaerandir/AimedShotAlert.zip |
| 13:17.21 | Malivil | If you do test it out and it works, can you please get a screenshot of it |
| 13:17.26 | Malivil | So i can upload to WoWI =- |
| 13:17.30 | Malivil | *=-P |
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| 13:54.35 | shouryuu | you sure you need to post a script? |
| 13:55.01 | shouryuu | to post an add-on |
| 13:55.03 | shouryuu | sorry :p |
| 13:55.09 | shouryuu | and I mean upload not post |
| 13:56.12 | Malivil | Uhh |
| 13:56.12 | Malivil | Yea |
| 13:56.17 | Malivil | But it doesn't work |
| 13:56.17 | Malivil | =-/ |
| 13:59.23 | Malivil | DOH |
| 13:59.27 | Malivil | I found the problem |
| 14:32.54 | Malivil | what's wrong with the toggle part of this? |
| 14:33.06 | MoonWolf | If i have a frame taht I alway's want to anchor below another frame, how do i do that ? |
| 14:33.27 | Malivil | im not going to paste it in... its too big |
| 14:34.07 | MoonWolf | pastebin |
| 14:37.31 | Malivil | can anyone help me fix something? |
| 14:37.42 | Malivil | Im trying to do a toggle command and its not working |
| 14:49.03 | shouryuu | can't you paste bin it? |
| 14:50.51 | Malivil | paste bin? |
| 14:51.21 | MoonWolf | google it |
| 14:55.57 | Malivil | o |
| 14:55.58 | Malivil | that rocks |
| 14:56.01 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6511 |
| 14:56.16 | Malivil | wait |
| 15:00.28 | Malivil | hmm |
| 15:00.36 | Malivil | the error went away but the toggle still doesn't work |
| 15:00.59 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6512 |
| 15:01.00 | Malivil | here |
| 15:05.09 | sarf|sleep | MoonWolf> use frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", "<name of other frame>", "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, 0) or something |
| 15:05.40 | MoonWolf | Oh, i figured it out myself. im using relativeTo="OHStatic" relativePoint="BOTTOM" |
| 15:05.52 | sarf|sleep | aha, that works too |
| 15:05.59 | sarf|sleep | but requires it to be there on load time |
| 15:05.59 | Malivil | And also, in WoW UI Designer, there is the red squiggle line under "<Size> |
| 15:05.59 | Malivil | <AbsDimension x="512" y="60"/> |
| 15:06.00 | Malivil | </Size> |
| 15:06.00 | Malivil | " |
| 15:06.29 | sarf|sleep | Ehm |
| 15:06.43 | sarf|food | Malivil> You haven't coded much, eh? |
| 15:06.48 | sarf|food | (not trying to be insulting) |
| 15:07.01 | Malivil | first addon =-P |
| 15:07.02 | sarf|food | in your on/off code, use ASA.on = X |
| 15:07.09 | Malivil | ok |
| 15:07.16 | sarf|food | if you do ASA = { ["on"] = 1; }; you create a new table |
| 15:07.19 | sarf|food | which is wasteful |
| 15:07.23 | sarf|food | and you destroy any other values |
| 15:07.34 | sarf|food | toggle has a bug |
| 15:07.39 | sarf|food | f ( on == "0" ) then |
| 15:07.40 | sarf|food | should be |
| 15:07.45 | sarf|food | f ( ASA.on == "0" ) then |
| 15:07.50 | sarf|food | or rather |
| 15:07.55 | sarf|food | f ( ASA.on == 0 ) then |
| 15:08.09 | sarf|food | also, change |
| 15:08.09 | sarf|food | elseif ( on == 1 ) then |
| 15:08.10 | sarf|food | to |
| 15:08.13 | sarf|food | else |
| 15:08.20 | Malivil | alright |
| 15:08.40 | Malivil | the on/off part works |
| 15:08.45 | Malivil | but you said to change it? |
| 15:08.55 | sarf|food | and do not use method calls inside table declarations unless you *really* know what you want |
| 15:08.55 | sarf|food | Yes |
| 15:09.04 | sarf|food | It's a bad habit to do it that way |
| 15:09.13 | Malivil | so cahnge ASA = { |
| 15:09.13 | Malivil | ["on"] = 1; |
| 15:09.13 | Malivil | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(ASA_TEXT_ASA_ON); |
| 15:09.13 | Malivil | }; |
| 15:09.14 | Malivil | to |
| 15:09.22 | sarf|food | by using ASA.on = X you merely change something (you will have to make sure ASA exists tho) |
| 15:09.25 | sarf|food | yes |
| 15:09.36 | Malivil | it does |
| 15:09.38 | Malivil | later in the code |
| 15:09.43 | sarf|food | ASA.on = 1; |
| 15:09.43 | sarf|food | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(ASA_TEXT_ASA_ON); |
| 15:10.25 | Malivil | alright |
| 15:10.35 | Malivil | ok, lets try this out |
| 15:10.35 | sarf|food | Also, another recommendation: |
| 15:10.38 | sarf|food | SlashCmdList["ASA"] = function(msg) |
| 15:10.52 | sarf|food | create a seperate function, called ASA_SlashCommand |
| 15:11.23 | sarf|food | and use |
| 15:11.23 | sarf|food | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.23 | sarf|food | It's a lot of changes |
| 15:11.23 | sarf|food | but they will help you later on with changing / maintaining your addons |
| 15:11.25 | Malivil | so just add |
| 15:11.34 | Malivil | function ASA_Slashcommand |
| 15:11.44 | Malivil | and then change that |
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| 15:11.57 | sarf|food | Yeah |
| 15:12.25 | sarf|food | or, to be blunt: |
| 15:12.25 | sarf|food | function ASA_SlashCommand(msg) |
| 15:12.25 | sarf|food | -- stuff here... |
| 15:12.25 | sarf|food | end |
| 15:12.25 | sarf|food | function ASA_OnLoad() |
| 15:12.29 | sarf|food | instead of |
| 15:12.33 | sarf|food | function ASA_OnLoad() |
| 15:12.49 | sarf|food | then put the stuff from the slash command function into ASA_SlashCommand |
| 15:13.12 | Malivil | wait what |
| 15:15.18 | sarf|food | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6513 |
| 15:16.29 | Malivil | ooo |
| 15:16.30 | Malivil | ok |
| 15:16.50 | sarf|food | Now, for food |
| 15:17.42 | Malivil | wait |
| 15:17.44 | Malivil | problem |
| 15:20.46 | Malivil | it's not toggling |
| 15:20.57 | Malivil | now it's just showing the status |
| 15:23.24 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6514 |
| 15:30.46 | Malivil | i figured it out |
| 15:30.48 | Malivil | haha |
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| 15:33.06 | Malivil | and now it works =-) |
| 15:34.28 | Malivil | the menus at least |
| 15:44.31 | sarf|food | :) |
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| 15:52.19 | Malivil | now i just need a hunter to test it with |
| 15:52.29 | Malivil | and a screenshot of it |
| 15:52.34 | Malivil | So i can upload it to WoWI |
| 15:57.40 | BO|Razag | hmpf another table question: |
| 15:58.08 | BO|Razag | damage ={} |
| 15:58.20 | BO|Razag | target="bunny" |
| 15:59.01 | BO|Razag | if not damage[target] then damage[target]={} |
| 15:59.22 | BO|Razag | damage[target][playername]=0 |
| 15:59.36 | BO|Razag | and that line is giving me "table index is nil" |
| 15:59.40 | BO|Razag | what am i doing wrong? |
| 16:08.09 | Beladona|sleep | it should be damage = {}; |
| 16:08.18 | Beladona|sleep | damage.target = "bunny"; |
| 16:09.08 | BO|Razag | when do i need ; and when dont i? |
| 16:09.32 | Beladona | well lua is pretty forgiving |
| 16:09.39 | Beladona | so you don't need it in the examples I game |
| 16:09.43 | Beladona | but I always use it |
| 16:09.51 | Beladona | strict coding and all |
| 16:10.17 | Beladona | you basically need it whenever you are ending a declaration |
| 16:10.21 | BO|Razag | thnx |
| 16:10.39 | Beladona | but again lua works without it |
| 16:17.21 | Malivil | what is the "or" symbol in lua? |
| 16:17.29 | Malivil | just "or" ? |
| 16:17.35 | Beladona | aye |
| 16:17.38 | Malivil | mmm |
| 16:17.41 | Malivil | im used to C++ |
| 16:17.46 | Malivil | where || means or |
| 16:17.50 | Beladona | and or |
| 16:18.10 | Beladona | its similar to php in that respect |
| 16:20.46 | Malivil | ok, thanks |
| 16:22.04 | MoonWolf | I have 4 fonstrings OH1 to OH4 and a table with 4 entries with the text those fonstrings need to have |
| 16:22.12 | MoonWolf | I figured this is a perfect job for a for loop |
| 16:22.14 | MoonWolf | but |
| 16:22.37 | MoonWolf | how do I acces OHx:SetText dynamically |
| 16:22.44 | MoonWolf | ? |
| 16:23.10 | Beladona | each of your fontstrings can be set to any of the 4 entries in your table? |
| 16:24.24 | MoonWolf | no entrie one needs to go to OH1 entry two needs to go to OH2 etc |
| 16:24.26 | MoonWolf | entry* |
| 16:24.45 | MoonWolf | I was thinking of this |
| 16:24.45 | MoonWolf | for key,value in Scroll do OHScrol :SetText(value) end |
| 16:25.08 | MoonWolf | the fonstring is actually called OHScroll(somenumber) |
| 16:25.33 | MoonWolf | Am i making sense ? |
| 16:25.47 | Beladona | yes |
| 16:25.52 | Beladona | writing one as we speak |
| 16:25.58 | MoonWolf | yay |
| 16:26.00 | Malivil | uhhh |
| 16:26.14 | Beladona | so the fontstrings are OH# or OHScroll#? |
| 16:26.14 | Malivil | was that code copied? |
| 16:26.26 | Malivil | if that code was copied i see a problem |
| 16:26.28 | MoonWolf | OHScroll# |
| 16:26.38 | Malivil | you have OHScrol |
| 16:26.41 | Beladona | and there are always only 4? |
| 16:26.43 | Malivil | not OHScroll |
| 16:26.51 | MoonWolf | in the case of scroll yes. |
| 16:26.58 | Malivil | ... |
| 16:27.21 | Malivil | Did you see what i said? |
| 16:27.25 | MoonWolf | yes |
| 16:27.32 | Malivil | Does that impact anything? |
| 16:27.43 | MoonWolf | the reason you see that is becasue i edited out some stuff (the stuff that did not work) |
| 16:27.48 | MoonWolf | its good in my code |
| 16:28.01 | Malivil | ok |
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| 16:29.20 | Beladona | for i = 1, 4 do local fontstr = (OHScroll..i):GetText(); table.i = fonstr; |
| 16:29.32 | Beladona | that puts each of your 4 fonts into your table |
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| 16:29.38 | Beladona | change table to the table name (obviously |
| 16:29.42 | MoonWolf | great thanks |
| 16:30.30 | Beladona | anyway, I gotta run, should be back in an hour or so |
| 16:31.55 | Tekkub | undocumented features FTL! |
| 16:32.06 | MoonWolf | what features ? |
| 16:32.18 | Tekkub | it's a bitch to write an addon that does something and test that it works... when some other addon is doing it too |
| 16:32.34 | Tekkub | I don't knowwhat's dismounting me af the flightmaster |
| 16:32.42 | Tekkub | but it's not my addon *growl* |
| 16:32.53 | Malivil | do u have ezdismount? |
| 16:33.09 | Tekkub | no I'm Aceing EZDismount |
| 16:33.14 | Malivil | oh... |
| 16:33.20 | Tekkub | but it seems I have another mod that does it too |
| 16:33.20 | Malivil | i dunno then |
| 16:33.25 | Malivil | uhhh |
| 16:33.33 | MoonWolf | that is annoying. |
| 16:33.35 | Malivil | How do i add a line break in an output string? |
| 16:33.44 | Tekkub | you don't |
| 16:33.45 | Malivil | ASA_TEXT_SLASHCOMMAND = "|cff20ff20/ASA off|cffffffff -Turn ASA off, |cff20ff20/ASA on|cffffffff -Turn ASA on, |cff20ff20/ASA toggle|cffffffff -Toggle ASA on/off, |cff20ff20/ASA status|cffffffff - Shows ASA's status (ON/OFF), |cff20ff20/ASA soundon or /ASA son|cffffffff - Turns on the sound notification, |cff20ff20/ASA soundoff or /ASA soff|cffffffff - Turns off the sound notification"; |
| 16:33.50 | Malivil | I want to break that up a bit |
| 16:33.50 | Tekkub | you just output twice |
| 16:34.15 | Malivil | ok then |
| 16:34.54 | Tekkub | '\n' works with some things, chat's not one of em |
| 16:37.42 | Malivil | ok, i just split it up into two outputs |
| 16:38.03 | Malivil | I started out changing like 2 things from Overpower Alert to make this addon |
| 16:38.14 | Malivil | now i nearly completely revamped it |
| 16:38.17 | Malivil | and added many more options |
| 16:39.46 | Tekkub | *growl* |
| 16:40.05 | Tekkub | what other mods will auto-dismount on TAXI_SHOW? |
| 16:42.08 | Malivil | None that i know of |
| 16:42.25 | Malivil | Can't you use WoW ui Designer to search all addon files for that? |
| 16:42.52 | Malivil | ill answer my question |
| 16:42.55 | Malivil | Yes, you can |
| 16:44.01 | Tekkub | hrm... :P |
| 16:56.55 | Malivil | hmm |
| 16:57.22 | Malivil | im trying to make it so i can have the user choose to make the sound play and the display show, or just one or the other |
| 16:58.48 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6516 |
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| 17:10.34 | cladhaire | Morning all |
| 17:10.47 | Malivil | hi |
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| 17:17.19 | Malivil | Ok |
| 17:17.23 | Malivil | According to my test subject |
| 17:17.25 | Malivil | My mod doesn't work |
| 17:17.26 | Malivil | at all |
| 17:20.17 | Malivil | ASA.lua |
| 17:20.17 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6517 |
| 17:20.23 | Malivil | local.lua |
| 17:20.23 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6518 |
| 17:20.31 | Malivil | ASA.xml |
| 17:20.31 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6519 |
| 17:35.34 | Malivil | Anyone wanna take a look at those for me please? |
| 17:36.14 | cladhaire | are you sure CHAT_MSG_SELF_HITS is the right event? |
| 17:38.25 | Malivil | What else would it be? |
| 17:38.36 | cladhaire | I have no idea.. |
| 17:38.43 | Malivil | Exactly =-P |
| 17:38.58 | Malivil | Tekkub told me to do that one |
| 17:39.11 | cladhaire | Well, It could be any number of messages |
| 17:39.31 | cladhaire | register for all CHAT_MSG events, and have it parse the string for Aimed Shot and have it send out a message.. then you kow what event |
| 17:39.45 | Malivil | Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 17:39.48 | Malivil | What did you just say? |
| 17:39.52 | Malivil | This is my first addon |
| 17:39.56 | cladhaire | heheh |
| 17:39.58 | Malivil | And i dont have a hunter to test it on |
| 17:40.03 | cladhaire | oh well thats a problem them |
| 17:40.05 | Malivil | Im using a guldie |
| 17:40.08 | Malivil | *duildie |
| 17:40.12 | Malivil | *guildie |
| 17:40.13 | Malivil | lol |
| 17:40.20 | cladhaire | gimme a sec |
| 17:40.22 | Malivil | Fired when a you hit a creature. Also called when you hurt yourself by falling, drowning or burning on a campfire. |
| 17:40.29 | Malivil | Thats the definition of the event im using |
| 17:40.47 | cladhaire | then thats likeley the wrong event. |
| 17:40.49 | cladhaire | but who knows. |
| 17:41.08 | cladhaire | Get rid of most of the logic in your code temporaily |
| 17:41.20 | cladhaire | break it down to onload and onevent |
| 17:42.03 | Malivil | or i can examine some other xode |
| 17:42.09 | Malivil | *code |
| 17:42.18 | cladhaire | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:42.49 | cladhaire | in OnEvent, just DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Event: " .. (event or "nil") .. " Message: " .. (arg1 or "nil")) |
| 17:43.29 | cladhaire | then have them tell you which event is Aimed Shot |
| 17:44.18 | Malivil | ... |
| 17:44.19 | cladhaire | The issues with event parsing come in with a.) the event, and b.) the pattern |
| 17:44.23 | Malivil | i have no idea how to do that |
| 17:44.33 | cladhaire | okay.. goto www.wowwiki.com |
| 17:44.36 | cladhaire | goto events. |
| 17:44.51 | cladhaire | in your OnLoad, where you this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SELF_HITS") |
| 17:45.01 | cladhaire | add this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_BLAHBLAH") |
| 17:45.01 | Malivil | I dont know how to do OnLoad |
| 17:45.09 | Malivil | oh tha |
| 17:45.10 | Malivil | tright |
| 17:45.12 | Malivil | *that right |
| 17:45.13 | cladhaire | Yes you do, its right here |
| 17:45.14 | cladhaire | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6517 |
| 17:45.19 | cladhaire | line 68 |
| 17:45.28 | cladhaire | then make your OnEvent the following code: |
| 17:46.38 | cladhaire | http://wow.pastebin.com/448478 |
| 17:47.19 | Malivil | and do |
| 17:47.24 | Malivil | this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS"); |
| 17:47.29 | Malivil | for EVERY chat msg? |
| 17:47.32 | Malivil | pertaining to combat |
| 17:47.34 | cladhaire | yep |
| 17:47.48 | cladhaire | you can leave out the ones that are obviously not it. |
| 17:47.54 | cladhaire | but its the best way to make sure you have the right message |
| 17:48.21 | cladhaire | if you end up having the right messgae.. then we look at your pattern |
| 17:48.56 | Malivil | i'm thinking its |
| 17:48.56 | Malivil | CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 17:49.06 | cladhaire | its definitely a spell |
| 17:49.12 | Malivil | then thats the problem |
| 17:49.13 | cladhaire | (white damage is HITS... yellow is SPELL) |
| 17:49.30 | cladhaire | yeah, but why guess? |
| 17:49.56 | cladhaire | unless you've got all day to have your guildie try it out |
| 17:49.58 | Malivil | i dunno |
| 17:50.02 | Malivil | i do |
| 17:50.03 | Malivil | =-P |
| 17:50.13 | Malivil | i still have 1 more problem |
| 17:50.17 | cladhaire | I'm just too regimented to do that.. I'd rather know a.) my event was right, and b.) my pattern is correct |
| 17:51.08 | Malivil | now, the smaller problem, but a problem nonetheless |
| 17:51.19 | Malivil | Is im trying to get it too allow me to do a slash command to turn on or off the sound |
| 17:51.23 | Malivil | and on or off the display message |
| 17:51.30 | cladhaire | ok |
| 17:52.15 | cladhaire | well we can work on that at any point |
| 17:53.54 | Malivil | yea, im just having my guildie test this fix |
| 17:55.59 | Malivil | ok |
| 17:56.04 | Malivil | he's doing some testing |
| 17:56.13 | Malivil | If you have time now, we can try and figure this out |
| 17:58.53 | cladhaire | yeah i need a few |
| 17:59.53 | Malivil | yea, i need to get food |
| 17:59.54 | Malivil | take ur time |
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| 18:04.33 | Osagasu | I LIIIIIIIIIIVEEEE |
| 18:06.02 | Industrial | ~stab Osagasu |
| 18:06.04 | purl | ACTION runs at Osagasu with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 18:07.01 | Osagasu | someone made a tetris game for WoW |
| 18:08.20 | Malivil | LOL |
| 18:08.50 | Osagasu | and mousegesture support |
| 18:18.25 | kergoth | i need to try that tetris game while fishing |
| 18:18.27 | kergoth | i get bored |
| 18:24.24 | Osagasu | oh this is cool |
| 18:24.44 | Osagasu | it seems the mousegestures addon can cast spells |
| 18:24.46 | Malivil | does an addon need an xml file? |
| 18:24.52 | cladhaire | no |
| 18:24.54 | Osagasu | no |
| 18:24.56 | cladhaire | unless you'r registering for events |
| 18:24.57 | Malivil | ok |
| 18:25.07 | Malivil | what should the xml be for that test addon? |
| 18:25.09 | MoonWolf | eeuh, no you can register events in sea or ace |
| 18:25.14 | MoonWolf | dont know any other libs |
| 18:25.52 | MoonWolf | but that ofcourse means a dependency |
| 18:25.58 | Malivil | clad |
| 18:26.07 | Malivil | what should the xml be for that test addon you were talking about? |
| 18:26.50 | cladhaire | You can just use what you're already using |
| 18:27.07 | Malivil | ok |
| 18:27.47 | Malivil | should a critical sinister strike send out the same event as a crit aimed shot? |
| 18:28.00 | cladhaire | no idea. |
| 18:28.03 | cladhaire | events are weird. |
| 18:30.24 | BO|Razag | all non autoattack combat are spells |
| 18:30.35 | BO|Razag | there is one event for spell crits and one for normal hits |
| 18:30.38 | BO|Razag | so yes |
| 18:31.11 | BO|Razag | CHAT_MSG_SPELL_CRITS or smth like that |
| 18:31.34 | BO|Razag | i lied |
| 18:31.35 | BO|Razag | sry |
| 18:31.40 | BO|Razag | same event for hits and crits |
| 18:31.54 | Malivil | makes it harder for me |
| 18:31.54 | BO|Razag | HAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 18:32.04 | Malivil | i tried that |
| 18:32.08 | Malivil | my test subject said it didn't work |
| 18:32.18 | BO|Razag | did you use a string.find? |
| 18:32.36 | Malivil | ASA.lua |
| 18:32.37 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6517 |
| 18:32.40 | Malivil | its at the bottom |
| 18:32.44 | Malivil | make sure its right |
| 18:32.48 | Osagasu | ;_; |
| 18:32.53 | Osagasu | Moonwolf, I'm not a zombie |
| 18:32.55 | Osagasu | ;_; |
| 18:33.00 | Malivil | this is the local.lua :http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6518 the bottom one is the string it looks for |
| 18:33.01 | MoonWolf | * Osagasu dies |
| 18:33.39 | Malivil | that was before i changed it from |
| 18:33.47 | Malivil | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS |
| 18:33.54 | Malivil | to C HAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 18:34.04 | Malivil | *CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 18:34.58 | BO|Razag | well the combat chat says smth like "Your aimed shot hits Honeybunny for 21929 damage." doesnt it? |
| 18:36.02 | Malivil | maybe |
| 18:36.02 | BO|Razag | then you could do just if string.find(arg1, "Your aimed shot") then <display code or function> |
| 18:36.32 | Malivil | that's true |
| 18:36.34 | BO|Razag | well add crit or hit so it doesnt fire on misses |
| 18:36.42 | BO|Razag | but thats about all you need to match it |
| 18:37.04 | Malivil | So where do i change that? |
| 18:37.57 | BO|Razag | im not too good with that for iterations (yet) :P |
| 18:38.18 | BO|Razag | if you only need it for crit and hit the code is short enough to do it just this twice |
| 18:38.59 | Malivil | It's jsut for crit |
| 18:39.03 | Malivil | *just |
| 18:39.09 | BO|Razag | well then you dont need the "for" at all |
| 18:39.15 | Malivil | ok |
| 18:39.26 | Malivil | So |
| 18:39.42 | Malivil | (This is my first addon, and most of it is just heavily modified of another addon) |
| 18:40.00 | Malivil | if (event == "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE") then |
| 18:40.04 | Malivil | do what? |
| 18:40.49 | BO|Razag | i use the ace event handling... not sure if its the same for non-ace but you can assign a function to a chat event |
| 18:40.52 | BO|Razag | or any event |
| 18:41.08 | Malivil | ok... |
| 18:41.08 | Malivil | but |
| 18:41.14 | BO|Razag | this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SPELL_DAMAGESHIELDS_ON_OTHERS", "OnChatDmgEvent"); |
| 18:41.27 | Malivil | huh |
| 18:41.30 | BO|Razag | will fire the OnChatDmgEvent() for that specific event |
| 18:41.39 | Malivil | ok... |
| 18:41.39 | BO|Razag | like that |
| 18:41.49 | Malivil | I don't want it on that event |
| 18:41.55 | Malivil | I want it on a critical aimed shot |
| 18:41.58 | BO|Razag | well change the name :P |
| 18:41.59 | Malivil | that fires that event |
| 18:42.02 | Malivil | along with liek 5000 other things |
| 18:42.14 | BO|Razag | thats CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE |
| 18:42.19 | Malivil | yes |
| 18:42.25 | Malivil | but Aimed Shot isn't the only thing that fires that event |
| 18:42.29 | BO|Razag | jep |
| 18:42.35 | BO|Razag | thats why oyu use string.find |
| 18:42.36 | Malivil | So how would it tell the difference |
| 18:42.39 | Malivil | Yea, ok |
| 18:42.45 | Malivil | but where do i PUT that, is what im asking |
| 18:42.51 | Malivil | i have no idea what im doing |
| 18:42.59 | Malivil | I know very limited amounts of programming |
| 18:43.02 | BO|Razag | well just add a function with the name after the event |
| 18:44.39 | Malivil | i dont know what you are talking about |
| 18:45.04 | BO|Razag | ok the event triggers a function |
| 18:45.26 | BO|Razag | that function matches the "aimed shot" string to the string it got off the event |
| 18:45.43 | BO|Razag | if its a match it returns "true" |
| 18:45.52 | Malivil | i know how it work |
| 18:45.53 | Malivil | s |
| 18:46.02 | Malivil | nevermind |
| 18:46.04 | BO|Razag | so? add a function for it :P |
| 18:46.53 | Malivil | it owuld be so much easier if i could test it myself |
| 18:46.55 | Malivil | *woul |
| 18:46.56 | Malivil | d |
| 18:47.07 | Malivil | I have a hunter... but i dont want to play it |
| 18:47.21 | BO|Razag | if you got a hunter why cant you test it? |
| 18:47.42 | Malivil | Because i stopped playing the hunter |
| 18:47.53 | BO|Razag | you deleted the char? |
| 18:47.55 | Malivil | and its on a very overpopulated and laggy server |
| 18:48.01 | Malivil | i dunno |
| 18:48.29 | BO|Razag | heh its easy to find out |
| 18:57.03 | Malivil | HOLY HELL |
| 18:57.06 | Malivil | It works! |
| 18:57.10 | Malivil | Well, the text part |
| 18:57.54 | Malivil | Holy hell... |
| 19:01.21 | Malivil | I THINK the sound works too |
| 19:01.24 | Malivil | but i can't really tell |
| 19:04.21 | Malivil | no, the sound doesn |
| 19:07.41 | Malivil | PlaySoundFile("Interface\\AddOns\\AimShotAlert\\Sounds\\asa.wav"); |
| 19:07.43 | Malivil | That right? |
| 19:07.47 | Malivil | O |
| 19:07.50 | Malivil | Thats why!!! |
| 19:07.54 | Malivil | DURRR |
| 19:07.58 | Malivil | Wrong folder name |
| 19:09.02 | Malivil | YEEEEEHAAA |
| 19:09.04 | Malivil | It works!!! |
| 19:09.11 | Malivil | YES! |
| 19:09.18 | cladhaire | afternoon Cair |
| 19:09.20 | Cair | hey |
| 19:09.27 | Malivil | Oh, f** yea |
| 19:09.33 | Malivil | My first addon actually works |
| 19:09.35 | kergoth | hehe, exploring the storage areas in my house |
| 19:09.39 | kergoth | i have a deep fryer! i had no idea |
| 19:09.49 | cladhaire | haha |
| 19:10.26 | Malivil | clad |
| 19:10.37 | Malivil | can you help me with the other problem im having? |
| 19:10.37 | cladhaire | yes sir? |
| 19:10.48 | cladhaire | i actually can't at the moment.. i'm working on dinner =( |
| 19:11.21 | Malivil | alright |
| 19:11.21 | Malivil | that's cool |
| 19:12.07 | Malivil | ill release this version and have the options in version .05 |
| 19:16.26 | Malivil | Cair |
| 19:16.29 | Cair | yo |
| 19:16.33 | Malivil | Can i make a suggestion for your site |
| 19:16.34 | Malivil | ? |
| 19:16.37 | Cair | yup |
| 19:16.55 | Malivil | Can you make it easier to find the upload button, please |
| 19:17.00 | Malivil | It took me a while this morning =-P |
| 19:17.23 | Cair | I ... am always completely boggled when people say that |
| 19:17.46 | AnduinLothar | because it's not intuitive |
| 19:17.55 | AnduinLothar | I told u how to fix it silly cair |
| 19:18.42 | AnduinLothar | You need to have the upload button on the main Download page and then on the upload page have a dropdown menu to pick which forum you want it in |
| 19:18.55 | Cair | so post it in the suggestion forum |
| 19:19.14 | AnduinLothar | i told u directly, didn't figure i needed to post it :P |
| 19:19.31 | Cair | sorry for being human and daring to forget :p |
| 19:19.38 | AnduinLothar | it's all ur fault |
| 19:19.43 | Cair | I know |
| 19:19.52 | Malivil | Cair |
| 19:19.58 | Malivil | I just submitted my addon to your site |
| 19:20.04 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Nomad_Wanderer (n=NomadWan@cpe-66-67-110-36.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 19:20.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | Howdy |
| 19:20.22 | Malivil | hi |
| 19:20.35 | *** join/#wowi-lounge LedMirage (n=LedMirag@cpe-65-189-243-48.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 19:20.46 | LedMirage | *BIG YAWN* |
| 19:20.50 | Malivil | morning |
| 19:20.52 | Malivil | afternoon |
| 19:20.56 | LedMirage | good morning, afternoon, something :O |
| 19:22.11 | Cair | approved Malivil |
| 19:22.20 | LedMirage | They say caffeine is for the weak or something like that, but I'm getting some to not be sooooo groggy! |
| 19:22.20 | Malivil | wow |
| 19:22.22 | Malivil | Thanks |
| 19:22.24 | Cair | posted the suggestion in the staff forums AnduinLothar, so I don't forget again |
| 19:22.25 | Cair | hi LedMirage |
| 19:22.32 | LedMirage | hola =) |
| 19:23.57 | Malivil | wait |
| 19:24.06 | Malivil | Cair, you have to approve every upload? |
| 19:24.22 | Cair | yes |
| 19:24.40 | Malivil | oi |
| 19:24.41 | Cair | there's a reason why our users trust our site implicity |
| 19:24.43 | LedMirage | I swear, the longer i sleep the more groggy I am when I wake up, there has to be a scientific corelation to it I'm telling you! :P |
| 19:25.23 | Malivil | AHH,im cionfusing myself! |
| 19:25.30 | LedMirage | yeah imagine otherwise what kind of nightmares could be found inside a zip file |
| 19:25.31 | Malivil | Okok, i think i uploaded the right one this time |
| 19:25.42 | Malivil | sorry about that Cair |
| 19:25.44 | LedMirage | like pandoras box! |
| 19:25.53 | Cair | *shrug* |
| 19:26.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge krka (i=krka@c80-216-103-22.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 19:26.20 | Cair | yo krka |
| 19:27.21 | Malivil | So now 2 of the 4 sites i submitted to have approved |
| 19:28.41 | Malivil | Now i just have to figure out why my individual shut-offs aren't working... |
| 19:37.32 | Beladona | hi guys |
| 19:37.37 | Cair | hey Bela |
| 19:39.23 | Malivil | can someone do me a favor? |
| 19:39.30 | Cair | maaaaybe |
| 19:40.26 | Malivil | Can you check this code out |
| 19:40.26 | Malivil | http://cpp.enisoc.com/pastebin/6520 |
| 19:40.44 | Malivil | And see if you can figure out why my sound toggle and diaply toggle throw an error |
| 19:40.48 | Malivil | ill get the error in a sec |
| 19:42.45 | Malivil | Interface\AddOns\AimedShotAlert\AimedShotAlert.lua:88: Attempt to index global 'ASAm' (a nil value) |
| 19:42.54 | Malivil | happens on load |
| 19:43.16 | Malivil | and when i do /asa mon |
| 19:43.28 | Malivil | and Interface\AddOns\AimedShotAlert\AimedShotAlert.lua:64: Attempt to index global 'ASAs' (a nil value) |
| 19:43.32 | Malivil | When i do /asa son |
| 19:44.02 | Malivil | *56 not 64 |
| 19:44.03 | kergoth | ? |
| 19:44.08 | kergoth | that error tells you exactly whats wrong. |
| 19:44.11 | kergoth | you cant index a nil value. |
| 19:44.21 | kergoth | ASA, ASAm, and ASAs are not defined anywhere in that code |
| 19:44.46 | Malivil | the ASA one works |
| 19:44.53 | Malivil | Which is why i dont get how ASAm and ASAs dont |
| 19:44.54 | Malivil | Well |
| 19:44.57 | Malivil | ASA may not work |
| 19:44.58 | Malivil | but it doesn |
| 19:45.04 | kergoth | ? |
| 19:45.04 | Malivil | *doesn't throw an error |
| 19:45.06 | kergoth | i just told you. |
| 19:45.14 | kergoth | ASA, ASAm, and ASAs are not defined. |
| 19:45.18 | Malivil | i know |
| 19:45.20 | kergoth | nowhere in that code do you do ASA = something |
| 19:45.23 | kergoth | now do you? |
| 19:45.24 | kergoth | no |
| 19:45.25 | Malivil | but ASA doesn't throw an erro |
| 19:45.27 | kergoth | you just try to index it with . |
| 19:45.30 | Malivil | and the other two do |
| 19:45.30 | kergoth | i dont give a shit |
| 19:45.33 | kergoth | i'm telling you the probelm |
| 19:45.34 | kergoth | now go fix it |
| 19:45.39 | Malivil | calm down |
| 19:45.43 | Beladona | kergoth |
| 19:45.44 | Malivil | im not doubting what your saying |
| 19:45.48 | Malivil | im thinking about something else |
| 19:45.48 | Beladona | offer help, not criticism |
| 19:45.50 | Malivil | damn |
| 19:46.02 | kergoth | nowhere have i criticized. I stated the problem. |
| 19:46.15 | Cair | easy guys |
| 19:46.33 | Malivil | =-/ |
| 19:46.46 | kergoth | i suggest that you learn something about lua, and what tables are. |
| 19:46.49 | Malivil | Ok... |
| 19:46.49 | kergoth | read programming in lua, its free online |
| 19:46.57 | Malivil | This is my first addon |
| 19:46.57 | Cair | everyone take a step back, breath, count to 10, start over |
| 19:47.16 | LedMirage | uno, dos, tres, catorce |
| 19:47.25 | Cair | kerg sweetie, you are coming across rather harsh luv |
| 19:47.26 | kergoth | sorry, people sitting on irc looking for help without doing research first is one of my pet peeves |
| 19:48.09 | Malivil | fine |
| 19:48.27 | krka | yo Cair |
| 19:48.32 | Cair | hey krka :) |
| 19:49.17 | krka | 4 char names rule! |
| 19:49.28 | Cair | heh |
| 19:50.31 | krka | today i had to boot up windows :( it was a sad day |
| 19:50.34 | Legorol | they do? |
| 19:50.36 | Cair | kergoth: we understand that, and many of us can relate, but there are ways of saying it and then there are ways of saying it ... |
| 19:51.16 | krka | change to Lego and you can join the club! |
| 19:51.19 | LedMirage | Hey I recent that! (only because I'm not only using Led) |
| 19:51.38 | Legorol | krka, am trying to |
| 19:51.50 | Legorol | it claims nick is already in use |
| 19:51.51 | Cair | Malivil: take what is said with the intent behind it, although the delivery may not be to your liking, chances are that there is value in it |
| 19:51.58 | LedMirage | *resent (too groggy!) |
| 19:51.59 | krka | Leg0 then! =) |
| 19:52.04 | Legorol | nevah! |
| 19:52.09 | Beladona | a lot of people use this IRC as a means for research |
| 19:52.16 | Legorol | purl, nickometer Leg0 |
| 19:52.21 | Beladona | experience and knowledge of peers is often worth 10 documents |
| 19:52.23 | Legorol | see? |
| 19:52.27 | Legorol | purl, nickometer Lego |
| 19:52.33 | Legorol | that's why i want that! |
| 19:52.46 | Cair | meh, you already know how I abbreviate your name Legorol, use it :p |
| 19:52.48 | cladhaire | purl, nickometer Cladhaire |
| 19:52.50 | LedMirage | lego my ego wafflers ! |
| 19:52.53 | cladhaire | woot |
| 19:52.56 | krka | purl, nickometer krka |
| 19:53.01 | krka | woohoo |
| 19:53.04 | kergoth | Beladona: and using the time of people with more experience than yourself without doing sufficient research first is a form of disrespect. they're saying that their own time is worth more than yours. |
| 19:53.16 | Beladona | then don't answer |
| 19:53.44 | kergoth | and they'll keep doing it. disrespect shouldnt be just tolerated. |
| 19:53.49 | Legorol | but using a short amount of time of someone more experienced who is willing to help and devote that time as opposed to spending long time on your own is again a waste of resources |
| 19:54.09 | kergoth | i didnt say they had to learn it all, i said /sufficient research/ |
| 19:54.21 | kergoth | tables is one of the most basic lua concepts that exists |
| 19:54.21 | Cair | ummm, then I disrespect you guys on a regular and ongoing basis |
| 19:54.27 | kergoth | and you can learn about them in one chapter of the book |
| 19:54.28 | kergoth | if that |
| 19:54.36 | kergoth | say, 20 minutes of reading time |
| 19:54.38 | krka | i like to both give an answer, an explanation to the answer and links to relevant resources |
| 19:54.39 | Legorol | kergoth, how about this: 1. you ask. if someone is willing and gives a quick answer, both are happy |
| 19:54.43 | Legorol | 2. you do your research |
| 19:54.49 | Malivil | kergoth, a person can give feedback |
| 19:54.49 | Beladona | not trying to argue. just stating that if you want to help, then help. |
| 19:54.53 | Malivil | a website can't |
| 19:54.53 | Legorol | 3. if still not succeeding, then you ask again, this time stressing you did the research |
| 19:54.56 | Legorol | is this acceptable? |
| 19:55.17 | Malivil | I figured out how to fix the problem |
| 19:55.23 | kergoth | it isn't. once again, the first is a form of disrespect. how many times do i need to explain this? |
| 19:55.29 | Malivil | I knew how to, i just didn't know what hte problem was |
| 19:55.35 | Legorol | i will never mind anyone asking without researching first. i just won't answer if i can't be bothered |
| 19:55.35 | Cair | whoa, kergoth, time out |
| 19:55.38 | Beladona | take this as you will, but I consider what you did as disrespect |
| 19:55.57 | krka | asking general lua questions in here is alright I think (but i suppose it's cairs channel so my opinion may not matter :)), it doesn't really bother anyone. querying someone privately though without an invitation is where I draw the line |
| 19:56.09 | Beladona | Cair, explain what the goal of this channel is |
| 19:56.11 | Beladona | please |
| 19:56.11 | kergoth | which it was, i dont claim otherwise. if someone disrespects me, i do what's necessary to ensure they wont continue to do so. i never claimed to be a nice guy. |
| 19:56.24 | krka | the goal is stated on the forum, I believe |
| 19:56.32 | Malivil | i wasn't trying to disrespect you kergoth |
| 19:56.40 | Beladona | asking other developers questions is one of those purposes is it now? |
| 19:56.42 | Malivil | i was just asking a question i could no figure out |
| 19:56.42 | Beladona | not* |
| 19:56.44 | Legorol | the goal is to have fun and relax and chat about Lua and non-Lua ;-) |
| 19:56.49 | Malivil | and who's to say i din't do the research? |
| 19:56.50 | Beladona | regardless of research |
| 19:56.54 | krka | from memory, I think it's about the lua coder community coming together to chat about all sorts of stuff, including interesting lua problems / solutions |
| 19:57.06 | kergoth | what a table is isnt an interesting lua problem |
| 19:57.16 | Beladona | for you |
| 19:57.18 | Cair | E.NOUGH |
| 19:57.23 | kergoth | it's a basic concept anyone who has spent 20 minutes on the web will understand |
| 19:57.25 | kergoth | its quite obvious that he did not |
| 19:57.31 | kergoth | enough, so be it |
| 19:57.31 | Cair | STOP |
| 19:57.34 | Beladona | guys |
| 19:57.37 | Beladona | lets just drop it |
| 19:57.38 | *** part/#wowi-lounge kergoth (n=kergoth@c-24-118-219-25.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 19:57.43 | Malivil | ... |
| 19:57.49 | LedMirage | tsk tsk tsk |
| 19:57.53 | Malivil | He assumed i didn't know what a table was |
| 19:57.56 | Malivil | i know what a table is |
| 19:58.01 | Beladona | I am sorry to come across harsh to him |
| 19:58.07 | Malivil | i just couldnt figure out the problem and didnt know it had anyhting to do with a table |
| 19:58.08 | krka | i use tables to place foods and other useful items on |
| 19:58.16 | krka | tables rule |
| 19:58.20 | Beladona | help shouldn't be conditional |
| 19:58.22 | Beladona | in my mind |
| 19:58.29 | Malivil | if he just told me i needed a table, then that would have been it |
| 19:58.35 | Malivil | i would have just gone and fixed it |
| 19:58.49 | cladhaire | Malivil: He was trying to.. but you were just countering everything he was saying. |
| 19:58.52 | Nomad_Wanderer | Malivil, The issue is that there isn't any more basic error than the nil error you were recieving. |
| 19:59.02 | cladhaire | I'm not saying Kergoth was right in the way he acted.. but it was not a one-sided issue. |
| 19:59.08 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yes. |
| 19:59.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.22 | Malivil | o.O |
| 19:59.23 | krka | googleisyourfriend is gone, I miss that site :( |
| 19:59.27 | Beladona | either way it got out of hand |
| 19:59.29 | cladhaire | When you're asking someone for help, its best to ask questinos, and raise problems-- not argue with the person trying to help you |
| 19:59.30 | cladhaire | *nod* Bela |
| 19:59.38 | Malivil | i wasn't arguing with him |
| 19:59.40 | krka | directing people to justfuckinggoogleit is a bit more rude |
| 19:59.41 | LedMirage | I still it isn't worth anyone getting upset, be mindful of your thoughts youd Padawan |
| 19:59.44 | Malivil | i was bringing up a DIFFFERENT point |
| 19:59.57 | Nomad_Wanderer | Try not to, if you are asking for help then. |
| 19:59.57 | LedMirage | *think (someone here isn't thinking before typing lol) |
| 20:00.10 | Beladona | my pet peeve: people that go "OMG RTFM" |
| 20:00.15 | cladhaire | haha |
| 20:00.16 | cladhaire | i agree |
| 20:00.19 | krka | thinking before typing/speaking is like wiping before taking a dump |
| 20:00.29 | Malivil | hahah |
| 20:00.29 | Cair | lol krka |
| 20:00.31 | LedMirage | thanks i feel better now krka! |
| 20:00.31 | Legorol | i don't agree, krka |
| 20:00.39 | LedMirage | hehe |
| 20:00.41 | Legorol | it's like taking a dump before pulling your trousers off |
| 20:00.45 | Cair | ewwwww |
| 20:00.49 | Beladona | oh wow |
| 20:00.55 | krka | warm soft goodness |
| 20:00.58 | Beladona | an image I didn't need |
| 20:01.01 | Malivil | lol |
| 20:01.03 | Legorol | ok that was over the top, i admit |
| 20:01.06 | LedMirage | now lego, do you speak from experience? wait... err... nvm |
| 20:01.27 | Beladona | time to make some emulates for Lego |
| 20:01.30 | Beladona | =P |
| 20:01.33 | Legorol | i always pull my pants off first, and I (almost) always think before typeing |
| 20:01.39 | Legorol | the one exception was the line above |
| 20:01.51 | LedMirage | LOL i tried /em |
| 20:01.57 | LedMirage | : test |
| 20:02.08 | Beladona | if we are speaking in metaphors, couldn't "pulling your pants off" be taken as something you shouldn't do? |
| 20:02.10 | LedMirage | how do you do that, noobtastic |
| 20:02.15 | Beladona | hehe |
| 20:02.39 | LedMirage | hey Tain :) |
| 20:02.55 | Nomad_Wanderer | Why is it we are always talking about pants. |
| 20:02.57 | Nomad_Wanderer | ? |
| 20:03.03 | LedMirage | so tell me, i'm lazy and haven't google'd for it, how do you do the emotes here on IRC? :P |
| 20:03.13 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:03.31 | Beladona | too bad /em doesn't work |
| 20:03.31 | LedMirage | aha |
| 20:03.40 | Beladona | I am used to /em from EQ |
| 20:03.54 | LedMirage | well now that's lovely, i had tried /em, but it's /me, am I implicitly dyslexic? |
| 20:03.58 | LedMirage | nod nod |
| 20:04.09 | Tain | huh.. I could have sworn /em worked, I thought /emote was the original command. |
| 20:04.39 | LedMirage | not /em, it took me to the other window with EM unknown command |
| 20:04.59 | Tain | Yeah, I'm glad I tried it before insisting it worked. |
| 20:05.03 | Tain | Uh oh. |
| 20:05.19 | LedMirage | by your command! *cylon centurion sound playing on the background* |
| 20:05.28 | *** join/#wowi-lounge digix|away (n=digix@66-90-145-10.dyn.grandenetworks.net) |
| 20:05.34 | LedMirage | what happened to Cair, Excess flood? |
| 20:05.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Cair (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 20:05.37 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Cair] by ChanServ |
| 20:06.25 | Tain | Welcome back Cair |
| 20:06.30 | Cair | danke |
| 20:06.31 | LedMirage | what he said |
| 20:06.44 | Malivil | There. |
| 20:06.46 | Malivil | It's fixed |
| 20:06.53 | LedMirage | cheers :) |
| 20:08.04 | LedMirage | oh, everyone is in EQ2 now and I'm the cleric! (waiting for phone to ring) |
| 20:08.28 | Malivil | o.O |
| 20:08.30 | LedMirage | yes, clerics do give out their phone numbers and no it isn't a good idea |
| 20:08.41 | Malivil | why? |
| 20:08.51 | LedMirage | :D |
| 20:09.06 | LedMirage | HEAL ME PLZ!!! |
| 20:09.14 | cladhaire | How did the full heal work in EQ? |
| 20:09.17 | cladhaire | that's all I hear about |
| 20:09.25 | cladhaire | (I'm a priest and a druid.. so i'm always with healers) |
| 20:09.38 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can anyone recomend a simple addon to look at to help learn the XML UI code? |
| 20:09.41 | LedMirage | I play a priest and shaman in WoW as well |
| 20:09.46 | Tain | Full Heal in EQ was (in my opinion) the worst mistake they ever made with a spell. |
| 20:09.55 | cladhaire | Nomad: Have you looked at the tutorial? |
| 20:10.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | Which tutorial? My clock? |
| 20:10.06 | Tain | Not when it was first put in, but when it could still fully heal people five (or however many) expansions later. |
| 20:10.16 | cladhaire | http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/last.html |
| 20:10.19 | LedMirage | Funny enough I was a warrior giving clerics my love in EQ1, an oogly troll warrior at that! |
| 20:10.20 | cladhaire | err http://fara.webeddie.com/frames |
| 20:10.40 | Nomad_Wanderer | ooooh.. Shiny. |
| 20:10.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks |
| 20:10.53 | Tain | Actually, there have been a few quite notable spell mistakes. They yanked the Silence spell from Paladins so fast I think they caused whiplash. |
| 20:10.57 | cladhaire | purl, wowxml is http://fara.webeddie.com/frames/last.html |
| 20:10.58 | purl | okay, cladhaire |
| 20:11.11 | cladhaire | purl, no, wowxml is http://fara.webeddie.com/frames |
| 20:11.12 | purl | cladhaire: okay |
| 20:11.14 | cladhaire | better |
| 20:11.23 | Nomad_Wanderer | heh. I was doing that too :) |
| 20:11.42 | cladhaire | <3 purl |
| 20:12.03 | LedMirage | Going to go join the gang for some EQ2 everyone, i'll be back to spam you later :) |
| 20:12.06 | Tain | Ooooh then there was the 12 hours or so that my spear was proc'ing a dragon's breath AE. That ws fun. |
| 20:12.06 | Plorkyeran | CH was a mistake of mindboggling proportions |
| 20:12.18 | LedMirage | Oh and hey Tain if you play CoV and want to meet up let me know |
| 20:12.20 | Plorkyeran | although in WoW they overreacted a bit |
| 20:12.27 | Tain | Ok Led, will do! |
| 20:12.32 | LedMirage | www.insomniax.net use the forums check them all the time |
| 20:12.44 | LedMirage | back laters all :) |
| 20:12.51 | *** part/#wowi-lounge LedMirage (n=LedMirag@cpe-65-189-243-48.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 20:12.58 | Tain | It's an example of why the original design behind EQ was never intended to go beyond level 50, Plorkyeran. |
| 20:13.35 | Plorkyeran | it was poorly designed for any level |
| 20:13.57 | Plorkyeran | the problem is it made a heal chain infinitly more mana efficient than anything else that could ever be done |
| 20:14.03 | Plorkyeran | well, one of the problems |
| 20:14.17 | Tain | Yeah, but it wasn't as bad when the limit was 50 just because people's hp was low enough that it wasn't always worth using CH. well, for individual groups I mean. |
| 20:14.27 | Tain | The heal chain is certainly a different story |
| 20:14.28 | Tain | so yeah. |
| 20:14.42 | Plorkyeran | yeah, when it would always overheal for at least 4000 it wasn't as big a problem |
| 20:14.59 | Tain | Still not quite as bad as the Cleric BP having free CH. :) |
| 20:15.42 | Plorkyeran | unfortuatly with WoW they realized that having a 7k heal cost the same amount as a 1k heal is stupid, so they made them have about the same mana efficiency |
| 20:16.15 | Plorkyeran | which makes the big heal somewhat pointless |
| 20:16.54 | Tain | They did specifically try to avoid the heal chain working the same way as well, but people just adjust tactics. |
| 20:25.20 | Cair | Stepping backward to a few minutes ago, kergoth and I have talked. |
| 20:25.20 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.20 | Cair | I appreciate the fact that he was willing to leave the channel to allow everything to calm down, instead of remaining and having the situation continue to spiral out of control. |
| 20:25.21 | Cair | End of topic |
| 20:28.38 | Beladona | I dont hold grudges |
| 20:30.32 | Osagasu | the internet is for porn! |
| 20:30.40 | Cair | ~for porn |
| 20:30.41 | purl | http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi |
| 20:30.55 | Beladona | I need to come up with a new, easier to use interface for wdn |
| 20:31.00 | Beladona | having trouble |
| 20:31.22 | Osagasu | Ready normal people? |
| 20:31.27 | Osagasu | xD |
| 20:32.29 | Xiphoris | hmmm |
| 20:32.59 | Xiphoris | thott@thottbot.com bounces |
| 20:32.59 | Xiphoris | anyone else know how to get in touch with him? :/ |
| 20:32.59 | Tain | I'm making tater tots! |
| 20:33.05 | krka | yes, the smell of tater tots will draw him in |
| 20:33.41 | Osagasu | ~tater tots |
| 20:33.45 | Osagasu | aww |
| 20:33.54 | krka | ~? |
| 20:34.02 | krka | ~_~ |
| 20:34.03 | purl | _~ is probably sour face |
| 20:34.21 | Osagasu | ~tater tots |
| 20:34.22 | purl | tater tots is, like, the best potato product in the universe! |
| 20:34.27 | Osagasu | ^_^ |
| 20:34.31 | krka | ~/bin/ls |
| 20:38.21 | Beladona | anyone know of an online application that can do on-the-fly file differencing? |
| 20:39.20 | krka | what do you mean by on-the-fly file differencing? |
| 20:39.29 | Beladona | well |
| 20:39.45 | Beladona | as it stands now, to show file differences on my website, I run the report myself in xml format |
| 20:40.01 | Beladona | and then I have an xsl transform that outputs it for you in readable format |
| 20:40.17 | Beladona | I want to put up a site that has two selection boxes, with all the versions available |
| 20:40.29 | Beladona | and you can choose to show differences between any version |
| 20:40.42 | Nomad_Wanderer | Why do you want to get in touch with thott? |
| 20:40.43 | Beladona | on-the-fly would allow me to just upload the files |
| 20:40.54 | Beladona | otherwise I have to run every report |
| 20:40.57 | Beladona | which would be hundreds |
| 20:43.48 | cladhaire | Bela: there are a bunch of php diff generators |
| 20:44.23 | Beladona | looking, but didn't see anything, will keep looking |
| 20:45.47 | cladhaire | Yeah they exist.. |
| 20:45.50 | cladhaire | you could write one too. |
| 20:45.57 | Beladona | true |
| 20:45.58 | cladhaire | just do a system call with diff and the files =) |
| 20:45.59 | cladhaire | then pretty it up |
| 20:46.01 | Beladona | was trying to avoid that |
| 20:46.09 | cladhaire | *nd* |
| 20:46.11 | cladhaire | i'll look |
| 20:46.14 | cladhaire | i use wdn religiously at work |
| 20:46.14 | cladhaire | so |
| 20:46.16 | cladhaire | =) |
| 20:46.22 | Beladona | hehe |
| 20:46.32 | Beladona | fyi, 1.90 is up |
| 20:46.40 | Beladona | both versions |
| 20:47.15 | cladhaire | drupal has a diff.php module that they use |
| 20:47.21 | cladhaire | you might get something useful from that |
| 20:48.29 | Beladona | do you think that would even be a useful feature? |
| 20:48.38 | Beladona | running your own diffs I mean |
| 20:48.48 | cladhaire | http://drupal.org/project/diff |
| 20:48.50 | cladhaire | yes |
| 20:48.51 | cladhaire | definitely |
| 20:49.06 | cladhaire | it'd make it a hell of a lot easier for you to get stuff up too |
| 20:49.17 | Beladona | aye |
| 20:49.22 | cladhaire | the only thing you'd do was make the directory diffs in theory |
| 20:49.23 | Beladona | export, upload, done |
| 20:49.27 | krka | for large files, the system diff is probably faster than a php diff |
| 20:49.34 | cladhaire | PEAR has a diff library |
| 20:49.42 | cladhaire | krka: the wow files are tiny in this regards.. |
| 20:50.04 | Beladona | the xml files that I generate are larger than the wow files that they are made from |
| 20:50.39 | Beladona | I could probably customize this diff module to output in xml with the same xsl I already use |
| 20:50.59 | krka | Ooh... diff is O(n lg n) |
| 20:51.49 | Beladona | ideal thing to have is a cvs style interface |
| 20:52.18 | cladhaire | http://pear.php.net/package/Text_Diff looks sexy =) |
| 20:52.32 | cladhaire | why don't you set up an SVN |
| 20:52.34 | cladhaire | with the web interface |
| 20:52.42 | cladhaire | and then just commit the new versions to it |
| 20:52.47 | Cair | Bela ... if you are talking about what I think you are talking about .... yes, being able to diff between any two versions could be of serious benefit. How many authors take a break and then come back "x" period of time later. If they can get the diff between when they left and current, they can make one set of changes to bring their mod up to date. Otherwise, they have to go through each individual patch, mak |
| 20:52.50 | cladhaire | viola! Instant cvs diff =) |
| 20:52.54 | Beladona | thinking about it |
| 20:53.43 | End | I was considering doing that. |
| 20:53.43 | Tain | That's why we're using svn for Ace stuff. Yay svn! |
| 20:54.01 | Beladona | never set one up honestly |
| 20:54.02 | Beladona | although I am sure I can figure it out |
| 20:54.06 | Tain | Complete history of all of your changes. |
| 20:54.09 | cladhaire | I actually dont' like svn.. not that i prefer CVS |
| 20:54.17 | Nomad_Wanderer | So I'm taking the faraframes tutorial.. Excellent stuff.. One of the examples has a frame that loads a texture out of interface/glue (from the wow mpqs).. Can I supply my own image in the addons/addonName directory and reference it? How does one use custom images in their own addons? |
| 20:54.22 | cladhaire | but i'm very picky.. and i version things very very well on my own =) |
| 20:54.29 | Beladona | same here clad |
| 20:54.36 | Tain | Why not, cladhaire? It integrates completely if you want it to. |
| 20:54.38 | cladhaire | Nomad: exactly as you said.. just give the path.. and make sure the file is there. |
| 20:54.44 | cladhaire | Tain: Integrates with what tho? |
| 20:54.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | Coolness Thanks |
| 20:55.08 | Tain | Explorer/whatever the OSX file manager is. |
| 20:55.10 | krka | damn it, just accept the buzzword and move on |
| 20:55.18 | krka | integration is the coolest buzzword today |
| 20:55.23 | cladhaire | Tain: When i get to that level I reversion the zip and send it off. |
| 20:55.36 | Nomad_Wanderer | I like the word Sultry.. Can that be tomorrow's buzzword? |
| 20:55.39 | cladhaire | but my needs are different, cause I work at home, then I work at work.. and one cycle is a new version.. and there's no possibility of overlap |
| 20:55.41 | cladhaire | ~sultry |
| 20:55.52 | cladhaire | Purl should get a word of the day |
| 20:55.54 | Tain | You can completely do that, cladhaire |
| 20:55.54 | cladhaire | that would rock |
| 20:55.56 | cladhaire | purl, wotd |
| 20:56.17 | cladhaire | Tain: but i'm already doing it is my point =) |
| 20:56.37 | Tain | Yeah I know. |
| 20:56.49 | Tain | There's just benefits to change. |
| 20:57.24 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 20:57.38 | cladhaire | I'd like a good tutorial of how you use svn.. for example. |
| 20:57.44 | cladhaire | that would help me a lot =) |
| 20:57.54 | cladhaire | purl, wowxml? |
| 20:57.55 | purl | methinks wowxml is http://fara.webeddie.com/frames |
| 20:57.59 | cladhaire | *cheer* |
| 20:58.08 | cladhaire | i thought purl hated me |
| 20:58.21 | Nomad_Wanderer | Purl, Sultry is 1.a. Very humid and hot: sultry July weather. b. Extremely hot; torrid: the sultry sands of the desert. 2. Expressing or arousing desire: a sultry look; a sultry dance. |
| 20:58.23 | purl | okay, Nomad_Wanderer |
| 20:58.51 | Tain | Here's an important question, does everyone like their tater tots more crispy, or less crispy. |
| 20:58.58 | cladhaire | more crispy |
| 20:58.58 | cladhaire | burn the shit. |
| 20:58.59 | Nomad_Wanderer | More crispy. |
| 20:59.02 | krka | Purl, is is one form of the word be |
| 20:59.05 | Cair | cripsy outside, soft inside |
| 20:59.14 | krka | ~is |
| 20:59.15 | purl | somebody said is was the country code for iceland |
| 20:59.15 | cladhaire | Cair: you said it perfectly as usual |
| 20:59.26 | Tain | Whew. My roommate was really freaking me out as he cooked tater tots soft. |
| 20:59.48 | Tain | although to get them the ideal state you really have to deep fry. |
| 20:59.51 | krka | soft outside, crispy inside FTW |
| 20:59.53 | Tain | But that's a lot of extra work. |
| 20:59.55 | Beladona | 8o |
| 20:59.58 | krka | (what is a tater tot?) |
| 20:59.59 | cladhaire | my roommate used to bake his hamburgers in the oven. |
| 21:00.08 | Beladona | uhh |
| 21:00.10 | Tain | I've broiled hamburgers. But never baked. |
| 21:00.14 | Tain | That's meatloaf. |
| 21:00.26 | Beladona | never heard of baking your burgers |
| 21:00.36 | Tain | I've pan fried them as well when I didn't have any other choice. |
| 21:00.50 | Tain | I'm not proud. |
| 21:00.54 | cladhaire | no.. he patted the meat.. put it on a cookie sheet. |
| 21:00.56 | cladhaire | OMG |
| 21:01.10 | cladhaire | when i told him "You know you can pan fry those if you're going to cook them inside" |
| 21:01.12 | cladhaire | he added oil |
| 21:01.15 | Nomad_Wanderer | I can add .gif files into the addons directory, and reloadui, and they will be available right? It's not the same as updating the toc right/: |
| 21:01.15 | cladhaire | and deep fried them |
| 21:01.19 | cladhaire | on the stove |
| 21:01.21 | Tain | ow |
| 21:01.26 | cladhaire | Nomad: Can't use .gif.. they have to be .blp or .TGA files. |
| 21:01.26 | Tain | brain go ping |
| 21:01.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | Bingo.. That's the problem.. Thanks ;) |
| 21:02.04 | Tain | TGA files saved as 32bit color depth and has to have the alpha channel. |
| 21:02.16 | Tain | I think. |
| 21:02.16 | cladhaire | What he said |
| 21:02.29 | cladhaire | its technically 24bit color depth, with an 8 bit alpha channel |
| 21:02.30 | cladhaire | but yes |
| 21:02.31 | Nomad_Wanderer | Um.. Yikes. |
| 21:02.40 | Tain | Oh right right. That's what previously confused me. |
| 21:02.43 | Tain | Now I remember. |
| 21:03.01 | Cair | krka: http://www.attention-to-details.com/newslogimg/sonic-tater-tots.jpg , http://fan.buttoneater.org/tatertots/ |
| 21:03.07 | Tain | I was looking at other tga files and they were saying 24 bit. And and it didn't work. |
| 21:03.11 | krka | and don't forget the power of two size limitation |
| 21:03.32 | Tain | Damn you 2! When will you release your hold over us! |
| 21:03.33 | Cair | ahhh, even better: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tater_tots |
| 21:03.45 | krka | so it's kinda like french^H^H^Hedom fries? |
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| 21:03.50 | Nomad_Wanderer | It's a tiny gif.. 7k. I'm just trying to figure out where the alpha channel color depth stuff is in irfanview ;) |
| 21:03.54 | cladhaire | krka: hahaha |
| 21:04.12 | Cair | hey Esamynn :) |
| 21:04.16 | Esamynn | greetings all |
| 21:04.19 | Esamynn | hi Cair :) |
| 21:04.36 | Cair | sorta kinda krka |
| 21:04.58 | krka | lol, it's french fries leftovers? :) |
| 21:04.59 | Esamynn | this is becomming a bad habit, I should be studying |
| 21:05.12 | krka | studying is a bad habit! |
| 21:05.26 | Esamynn | so is failing :P |
| 21:06.23 | Cair | krka: more like parisian potatoes in a crispy seasoned coating |
| 21:07.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | I found bit depth in irfanview... Can I set the alpha channel in irfanview? Or do I need to bring out the gimp?> |
| 21:07.12 | cladhaire | I'm not sure.. haven't used irfan |
| 21:07.23 | Tain | Not sure, Nomad. I just took a quick look and didn't see the optin in Infran, but I hae to check my tots |
| 21:07.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | np.. I'l fire up the gimp |
| 21:11.01 | Cair | oh, and by the way, you're all a bunch of heathens ... they aren't french fries, they aren't freedom fries ... they are chips, gd it |
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| 21:11.28 | Malivil | all the downstairs circuits popped off |
| 21:11.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | I think it was the vacuum. |
| 21:13.00 | Malivil | WOW |
| 21:13.11 | Malivil | My mod has over 80 downloads already |
| 21:13.20 | krka | chips is what i call what you call crisps |
| 21:13.23 | Malivil | 78 on worldofwar.net |
| 21:13.32 | Malivil | 5 on WoWi |
| 21:13.40 | Esamynn | what mod? |
| 21:13.41 | Malivil | and 1 on Guru |
| 21:13.41 | Malivil | lol |
| 21:13.45 | Cair | *no comment* |
| 21:13.47 | Malivil | AimedShot Alert |
| 21:13.53 | krka | no, that means you have ~40 on worldofwar |
| 21:13.58 | Malivil | Why? |
| 21:14.04 | krka | because they inflate download count |
| 21:14.09 | Esamynn | lol |
| 21:14.11 | Malivil | o.O |
| 21:14.19 | Malivil | well whatever |
| 21:14.21 | Malivil | 40... |
| 21:14.23 | Nomad_Wanderer | Does it matter? My download count is bigger than yours .... :P |
| 21:14.26 | Malivil | its prolly like 2 |
| 21:14.28 | krka | sorry :) |
| 21:14.35 | Malivil | Nomand, i made this mod this morning |
| 21:14.46 | Malivil | *nomad |
| 21:14.47 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thats okay.. But I jsut wonder why tell us? :) |
| 21:14.53 | krka | hmm, i wonder what my counts are |
| 21:14.55 | Malivil | Because like 5 people in here helped me fix it |
| 21:15.03 | Malivil | and its my first mod |
| 21:15.07 | Cair | krka: thank you, I wasn't going to say it |
| 21:15.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm happy others are finding your addon useful |
| 21:15.35 | Cair | I try not to be a *complete* cat *all* the time ... |
| 21:16.06 | Esamynn | I think the download counter is fun, I always feel a little pride when I notice mine has gone up again :) |
| 21:16.10 | Nomad_Wanderer | Um. Okay. I've forgotten the right ways to use the gimp.. Anyone know how to set the colordepth to 24 with an 8 bit alpha? |
| 21:16.18 | krka | whoa... how come that the latest version of my addon that doesn't even work any more has almost 18000 downloads? |
| 21:16.32 | cladhaire | magic =) |
| 21:16.35 | Cair | lol |
| 21:16.36 | Cair | where? |
| 21:16.46 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. I named mine MulrocPetGetter, and it's got 25k! |
| 21:16.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | Mulroc = Murloc |
| 21:16.56 | Esamynn | hahaha |
| 21:17.25 | krka | watching the download counter go up and people giving feedback is a real ego boost |
| 21:17.27 | krka | you gotta love it |
| 21:18.22 | Beladona | Nomad, 32 bit depth is the same as 24bit depth with 8 alpha |
| 21:18.32 | Nomad_Wanderer | oh :) |
| 21:18.50 | cladhaire | Sorry I missed that .. thanks Bela |
| 21:19.01 | Cair | 32 bit means it's got the alpha channel |
| 21:19.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | You guys are all GD's huh? |
| 21:19.19 | Cair | GDs? |
| 21:19.21 | cladhaire | ? |
| 21:19.24 | krka | Generally Dumb? |
| 21:19.29 | krka | Greedy Dwarves? |
| 21:19.33 | Nomad_Wanderer | I shoulda known.. I forgot you were all talking about wacoms the other day. |
| 21:19.35 | Cair | generally dumb |
| 21:19.39 | cladhaire | I am a greedy generally dumb dwarf =) |
| 21:19.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | Graphic Designers |
| 21:19.50 | Cair | Nomad_Wanderer: gds? |
| 21:19.52 | Cair | ahhhhh |
| 21:19.56 | cladhaire | haha no. |
| 21:19.59 | krka | graphic designer... not really :/ |
| 21:20.00 | cladhaire | far from it |
| 21:20.06 | Cair | *pouts* I sooooo want a wacom tablet! |
| 21:20.10 | krka | i can make a 1x1 image go ugly :( |
| 21:20.28 | Cair | I also want a few million dollars and a harem |
| 21:20.35 | Tain | I'm just naturally brilliant. |
| 21:20.40 | Beladona | if it can be done with a computer, I tend to eventually get around to learning it |
| 21:20.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | I could go for a harem |
| 21:20.49 | Beladona | code, graphics, etc... |
| 21:21.18 | Cair | Nomad_Wanderer, graphic designer? hah! I take it you haven't looked at my pathetic avatars :p |
| 21:21.40 | Nomad_Wanderer | Well, I can't even find how to set the color bit depth in the gimp ! :) |
| 21:21.45 | Beladona | none of these version control systems really seem to "fit" my tastes |
| 21:21.49 | Industrial | Cair: i like your avatar :> |
| 21:21.55 | Beladona | I have a feeling I am gonna end up writing my own |
| 21:22.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | Stay away from rational CC BTW. |
| 21:22.08 | Cair | that's part of your problem right there, nomad ... you're using gimp :p |
| 21:22.15 | Esamynn | lol Beladona, I know how you feel |
| 21:22.19 | krka | what's wrong with the gimp? |
| 21:22.25 | krka | and what |
| 21:22.28 | krka | 's wrong with SVN? |
| 21:22.34 | cladhaire | Cair: making wow friendly graphics in photoshop is much worse than gimp |
| 21:22.49 | Cair | not! |
| 21:22.52 | Cair | http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel3/Products/Display&pfid=1047024307383 |
| 21:22.54 | Tain | erm I've never had a problem, cladhaire |
| 21:23.12 | Cair | Nomad_Wanderer, that link was for you |
| 21:23.26 | Cair | use the trial version of PaintShopPro |
| 21:23.27 | Beladona | I prefer paint shop pro when it comes to creating alpha |
| 21:23.28 | cladhaire | Tain: I know.. it can be done quite well.. but it never got along with me. |
| 21:23.29 | Nomad_Wanderer | :) What do Iwant with PSP? |
| 21:24.01 | Cair | It's a whole fuck of a lot more capable than GIMP, and a lot more affordable than PhotoShop |
| 21:24.16 | Cair | I *hate* GIMP |
| 21:24.17 | Tain | It's not more capable than GIMP, it's just more user friendly. |
| 21:24.21 | Cair | talk about a non-intuitive program |
| 21:24.25 | Nomad_Wanderer | Oh.. I just want to convert 1 gif to 32 bit tga. |
| 21:24.25 | krka | i thought gimp was very capable, only some people find it hard to use |
| 21:24.43 | Beladona | in what program Nomad? |
| 21:24.45 | Tain | Nomad_Wanderer: You need an elephant gun. |
| 21:24.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | Gimp.. I'm starting to think I do need an elephant gun. |
| 21:25.13 | Cair | Nomad_Wanderer: cairenn@wowinterface.com |
| 21:25.26 | Cair | send it through, I'll alpha it for you in PS and send it back :p |
| 21:25.30 | Nomad_Wanderer | hehehe is it really that bad? You guys are scaring me! |
| 21:25.45 | krka | convert a.gif a.tga |
| 21:25.51 | krka | linux FTW! |
| 21:25.52 | Esamynn | <-- not a graphics person, I'd rather work on a compiler or OS than do anything more than basic graphics |
| 21:26.14 | cladhaire | krka: ./agree |
| 21:27.08 | Industrial | http://www.xaraxtreme.org/about/ |
| 21:27.09 | Industrial | :] |
| 21:27.25 | Industrial | that reminds me to go and try it |
| 21:27.29 | Industrial | brb reboot |
| 21:28.08 | krka | damn linux is intuitive... I just _guessed_ that that would be the syntax for converting and when I tried it, it actually worked perfectly |
| 21:29.22 | cladhaire | hahaa |
| 21:29.47 | Beladona | Xara Xtreme looks like a nice vector program |
| 21:29.51 | Esamynn | lol |
| 21:29.52 | Beladona | no windows version though |
| 21:30.18 | Beladona | oh wait maybe there is |
| 21:30.19 | Tain | krka: that won't add an alpha channel to the .tga automatically. |
| 21:30.44 | Beladona | I believe he has to use Color2Alpha in GIMP to do that |
| 21:31.05 | krka | hm, it won't? |
| 21:32.34 | Tain | If the file has an alpha channel already then convert can keep it, but if there isn't one there, which gifs and jpgs don't have, it won't add one. |
| 21:32.54 | Cair | Nomad_Wanderer: which parts are supposed to be transparent? the grey? |
| 21:32.57 | Tain | I don't know if it can add one, I don't see an option but I might just not see it. |
| 21:33.22 | krka | i think it should add an alpha channel if the png/gif has a transparent colour |
| 21:35.07 | Beladona | cladhaire: this looks promising -- http://www.rjk-hosting.co.uk/programs/prog.php?id=3 |
| 21:35.26 | Beladona | bare necessities more or less |
| 21:36.02 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 21:36.10 | cladhaire | let me know what you find out =) |
| 21:36.17 | Beladona | kk |
| 21:36.21 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. bare :).. Do you have workflow requirements? |
| 21:36.29 | Beladona | no |
| 21:36.31 | Nomad_Wanderer | Does look nice for the price though! |
| 21:36.41 | Beladona | its strictly for monitoring changes in the blizzard ui files |
| 21:37.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | I don't see the diff capabilities. |
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| 21:37.13 | Verlaine | rawr |
| 21:37.17 | cladhaire | yeah i didn't either |
| 21:37.18 | cladhaire | (looking now) |
| 21:37.23 | Beladona | thats what I am looking for |
| 21:37.30 | Tain | Create a workflow and you'll work more effeciently. |
| 21:37.39 | Nomad_Wanderer | It'll.. um flow. |
| 21:37.41 | Esamynn | I have a question about WoWI, is there a perfered method for uploading a beta for the next version of an AddOn? |
| 21:38.11 | Beladona | cvs and svn just seem like TOO much for my needs |
| 21:38.20 | Beladona | trying to get a happy medium |
| 21:38.34 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm. what about RCS? |
| 21:38.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | I know that has diff |
| 21:38.50 | Tain | They don't have to be too much. Both have a lot of functionality, but that doesn't mean you have to use it all. |
| 21:38.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | Let me see if I can dig up an implementation I've used before |
| 21:39.06 | Verlaine | could anyone with inviting privileges in a guild help me test my add-on? |
| 21:39.21 | Beladona | would like to see a working version |
| 21:39.25 | Beladona | before I settle on one |
| 21:39.35 | Nomad_Wanderer | http://www.componentsoftware.com/csrcs/ |
| 21:39.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | I've used this to track changes in ToEE addon development |
| 21:40.27 | Beladona | web based? |
| 21:40.59 | Nomad_Wanderer | Open Source? |
| 21:41.23 | Nomad_Wanderer | I believe the Open source version is multi-user. I only used it single user. |
| 21:41.42 | Beladona | what you linked me is a client application |
| 21:41.52 | Beladona | I am looking for a web based version control |
| 21:42.16 | Beladona | wiki "almost" has what I need |
| 21:42.24 | Beladona | but not enough in the diff department |
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| 21:43.22 | Verlaine | ok what's the command to kick your ghost again? |
| 21:43.34 | cladhaire | hrm? |
| 21:43.39 | Tain | Here's an example of one of the web interfaces for the SVN we're using. |
| 21:43.40 | Tain | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/log/trunk/InformaTips/ |
| 21:43.42 | cladhaire | ./script RepopMe()? that one? |
| 21:43.50 | Verlaine | no I mean ghost on chat server |
| 21:44.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | Ouch.. I've gotten to the meaty part of the tutorial... I can now build a text box! Hurray! But how can I build a textbox that I can Shift-link itemtext into? |
| 21:44.13 | Beladona | let me show you what kind of output I am looking for |
| 21:44.25 | Tain | ./msg nickserv ghost <nickname> password |
| 21:44.29 | cladhaire | oh |
| 21:44.33 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/module/reports/1.9.0.4851/summary_files/FileComparisonReport1.xml |
| 21:44.34 | cladhaire | haha sorry.. was so confused. |
| 21:45.02 | Cair | Nomad_Wanderer: incoming |
| 21:45.10 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks! |
| 21:45.21 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can you do that? shift click link items into a text box? |
| 21:45.23 | Cair | check it, been a while ;) |
| 21:45.25 | Tain | You woulnd't want to see just the differences, Beladona? |
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| 21:45.56 | cladhaire | I LOVE the output that your current method provides Bela |
| 21:46.04 | Beladona | would prefer to elave it as an option |
| 21:46.13 | Beladona | to show full file with changes highlighted, or just changes |
| 21:46.35 | Verlaine | rawr |
| 21:46.42 | Cair | *purr* |
| 21:46.43 | *** join/#wowi-lounge shouryuu (n=nicolass@25.239.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 21:47.03 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Iriel (n=daniel@adsl-66-123-190-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 21:47.26 | Beladona | maybe I am trying to get too sophisticated with it. A simple diff script could do it, and then I can customize it from there |
| 21:47.41 | Iriel | Afternoon all |
| 21:47.49 | Beladona | hiya Iriel |
| 21:48.03 | Beladona | maybe Iriel would have some good ideas for me |
| 21:48.09 | Iriel | Beladona : You'll know this, when did the current (Dec 1 build) WoW patch go up on test? |
| 21:48.10 | Cair | hey Iriel :) |
| 21:48.23 | Iriel | Did you finally sleep Cair? |
| 21:48.27 | Cair | yup yup |
| 21:48.45 | Beladona | ehh, lemme look |
| 21:49.35 | Iriel | Good, you were still pretending to be asleep (but not) when I left last night |
| 21:50.04 | Cair | heh |
| 21:50.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hmm.. I might have to rethink how I'm doing things if I can't shift link an item into a textbox.. |
| 21:50.13 | Beladona | talking about the absolute latest build right? 1.9.0.4869? |
| 21:50.23 | Esamynn | hi Iriel |
| 21:50.37 | Cair | it's not that I pretend to be asleep, it's that I have all these good intentions of going to sleep, then keep getting distracted into not |
| 21:50.47 | Iriel | let me just check.. |
| 21:50.51 | Iriel | 4879 |
| 21:50.54 | Iriel | or so the login page says |
| 21:51.00 | Esamynn | I think the lastest test patch was on Friday |
| 21:51.02 | Iriel | Cair: I know EXACTLY how that goes. |
| 21:51.04 | Beladona | oh then thats new |
| 21:51.08 | Beladona | I don't even have that one yet |
| 21:51.14 | Iriel | Friday makes sense, thanks. |
| 21:51.38 | Esamynn | there were updates to the bug threads and a post about maintenence in the test forums on friday |
| 21:51.57 | Beladona | great, another compare, another day lol |
| 21:52.04 | Esamynn | lol |
| 21:52.22 | Esamynn | I think its great they are doing builds more often this round |
| 21:53.07 | Kolth | They kinda pushed to Test way too quickly. |
| 21:53.09 | Beladona | Iriel: need some suggestions. I am looking for some type of web based diff that will generate my reports for me from a source directory. Basically the reports I do now are hard coded, but I am looking into making it automated so someone can just go to my site, pick a starting version, and the ending version, and see a report |
| 21:53.21 | cladhaire | Kolth: IMO they can never push to test too quickly |
| 21:53.28 | Kolth | cladhaire: I hear ya. |
| 21:53.33 | Beladona | don't need a full cvs or svn |
| 21:53.34 | cladhaire | I personally wish there was a test server up 24/7 for the mod developers |
| 21:53.45 | Kolth | btw, Watchdog is nifty :P |
| 21:54.02 | Esamynn | with testing powers you mean right cladhaire? :) |
| 21:54.06 | cladhaire | lol thanks..I can't take too much credit for it |
| 21:54.17 | cladhaire | Esamynn: Just so we have another testbed for development |
| 21:54.33 | cladhaire | Esamynn: there's no lag... its a seperate UI environment, etc. |
| 21:54.37 | Nomad_Wanderer | hmm... is this right? <Texture name="$parentTexture" file="Interface\AddOns\FaraFrames\gendkplogo2.tga"> |
| 21:54.45 | Esamynn | yes, that would be nice |
| 21:55.30 | Cair | cladhaire: you mean the way EQ did? There was an actual *test* server, that people had as their home server, it was a 24/7 just like all the rest, but it was a test server |
| 21:55.32 | Esamynn | I don't see it happening though |
| 21:55.59 | cladhaire | Cair: Doesn't need to be for everyone.. or something like that-- but it would be nice. |
| 21:56.11 | Iriel | Beladona : Hm, I've not really played with any, but there are a bunch of web CVS interface scripts out there, using one of those and mutating it may be the best bet. |
| 21:56.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | What was that rule of 2 thing you guys were talking about before with images/ |
| 21:56.39 | cladhaire | I can't rebuild WatchDog without a.) changing all teh frames/functions/namespace or b.) swapping out my WTF and Interface directories.. which makes it tough to go back and forth between raiding, and developing =) |
| 21:56.42 | Iriel | Beladona : I tend to just call the diff command then do my own highlighting, but I haven't had to do that in quite a while either. |
| 21:57.03 | Beladona | yeah |
| 21:57.08 | Beladona | thats sort of what I do now |
| 21:57.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | diff? or xdiff? |
| 21:57.19 | Tain | Pork chops and tater tots. mmm |
| 21:57.28 | Iriel | The only problem with a 'stable' test server is that the people who decide that's their normal home sometimes become annoyed by actual 'testing' |
| 21:57.45 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 21:57.48 | Beladona | ie, everquest tried that |
| 21:57.59 | Iriel | But that's a community issue rather than a technical one.. I'd be much happier of test was always "up" (Maintainence windows notwithstanding) |
| 21:58.09 | Tain | hee hee that was funny when they finally announced a test server wipe in EQ. |
| 21:58.13 | cladhaire | if they whitelist mods.. then I think its a good way to give us a place to work |
| 21:58.16 | Beladona | =P |
| 21:58.20 | Tain | Ooooh the uproar. |
| 21:58.27 | Nomad_Wanderer | I concur. A normal test server would be nice. |
| 21:58.29 | Iriel | Nomad_Wanderer : The size of each side of an image must be a power of 2 (pixels) |
| 21:58.40 | Nomad_Wanderer | Aha! |
| 21:58.53 | Iriel | Nomad_Wanderer : But they dont have to be the same, so 16 x 128 is fine |
| 21:59.10 | Nomad_Wanderer | But 33x291 probably isn't ;) |
| 21:59.52 | Beladona | 32x256 |
| 22:00.09 | MoonWolf | cladhaire keep two wow folders around one play one test |
| 22:00.37 | cladhaire | MoonWolf: That's what I've ended up doing in the time being |
| 22:00.58 | MoonWolf | works fine for me. i have the space though |
| 22:01.10 | Cair | Nomad_Wanderer: duh, I didn't even check your dimensions when I edited for you |
| 22:01.12 | cladhaire | me too |
| 22:01.15 | Iriel | Or you can just keep two copies of the addons, and a script to switch between them. |
| 22:01.33 | cladhaire | Iriel: Well its settings too.. so its a matter of my WTF/account and the addons |
| 22:01.54 | Tain | But you could write a Lua script to do that for you! |
| 22:01.56 | Iriel | Your script can copy/rename those |
| 22:01.59 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 22:02.04 | MoonWolf | plus, because my testing folder has like 5 addosn in it it reloads faster |
| 22:02.08 | cladhaire | I've got ways around it now, and I work just fine =) |
| 22:02.19 | cladhaire | but I'd like to haev a test environment.. i think there are a lot of advantages to it. |
| 22:02.25 | MoonWolf | and you have less interference from other addons |
| 22:02.28 | cladhaire | but I see the issues from their end as well |
| 22:02.46 | cladhaire | What I really want is a server where the mod developers have a guild.. so we can help each other out =) |
| 22:02.49 | cladhaire | getting raid invites can be a pain :P |
| 22:02.50 | MoonWolf | a real addon testing server would be cool, but not really practical for them |
| 22:02.59 | cladhaire | *nod* exactly |
| 22:03.17 | MoonWolf | a server where you could go, poof lvl 60 wahterver you need |
| 22:03.33 | MoonWolf | but then people rush in a go, i want to do that becasue i can and it would be cool |
| 22:03.41 | Tain | Yeah, but the entire guild should be pvp enabled against each other. It would help resolve arguments over code quickly. ;) |
| 22:03.52 | Cair | ROFL Tain |
| 22:03.57 | MoonWolf | hehehe |
| 22:04.01 | cladhaire | Moonwolf: I wouldn't let people create characters.. we would just be able to copy ours over.. its more about having us all in one place =) |
| 22:04.10 | cladhaire | Danboo wanted to make a UI mod guild.. i'd love that |
| 22:04.19 | MoonWolf | talk code in the gurubashi arena |
| 22:04.24 | Beladona | we should have a wowi guild |
| 22:04.27 | Beladona | lol |
| 22:04.34 | cladhaire | I support that |
| 22:04.39 | Tain | I don't know, I might just go the Rowne route. Write addons without ever logging into WoW. |
| 22:04.42 | Cair | it's been suggested, I'm all for it if folks want |
| 22:04.47 | Beladona | yeah |
| 22:04.55 | Beladona | just for fun though, not hardcore raiding and stuff |
| 22:04.58 | cladhaire | The problem is.. we'd need to level our characters |
| 22:05.03 | cladhaire | in order to test =) |
| 22:05.18 | Iriel | You have to actually play |
| 22:05.20 | Cair | and do we go PvE or PvP (ugh, shudder) |
| 22:05.26 | Beladona | PvP |
| 22:05.27 | Iriel | Rowne's world view is going to become less and less relevant over time |
| 22:05.27 | cladhaire | PvP |
| 22:05.33 | MoonWolf | i have enough alts already |
| 22:05.36 | Beladona | I don't do PvE |
| 22:05.37 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:05.37 | Beladona | period |
| 22:05.39 | cladhaire | come on Kael'thas |
| 22:05.41 | cladhaire | I already have gold. |
| 22:05.43 | Cair | and I loathe PvE |
| 22:05.46 | cladhaire | its PvE tho =( |
| 22:05.47 | Iriel | Which is fine for 'plumbing/libraries' but not for user-facing addons |
| 22:06.02 | MoonWolf | wich is why he has a testing account |
| 22:06.15 | Beladona | what server would we do it on |
| 22:06.28 | Beladona | that isn't dying from population overdose |
| 22:06.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm in :) |
| 22:06.39 | cladhaire | Do one of the new Christmas servers |
| 22:06.40 | Tain | I think that rules them all out, Beladona |
| 22:06.41 | cladhaire | the real questino: |
| 22:06.44 | cladhaire | Horde or Alliance |
| 22:06.52 | Tain | Horde |
| 22:06.55 | cladhaire | I agee. |
| 22:06.57 | Iriel | Well, you need both |
| 22:07.04 | cladhaire | Iriel: Good point. |
| 22:07.08 | cladhaire | *ponder* |
| 22:07.11 | Iriel | otherwise you (a) can't kill each other and (b) cant' test Shaman/Paladin |
| 22:07.13 | Cair | seriously, PvE or PvP? |
| 22:07.17 | cladhaire | PVp |
| 22:07.19 | Cair | gah |
| 22:07.24 | Tain | I don't care if my addons don't work for those goody goody Paladins! |
| 22:07.40 | shouryuu | palladins are like goldlike healer in pvp |
| 22:07.41 | Tain | PVP is not a good idea if we're going to be doing any actual testing of things. |
| 22:07.42 | Iriel | You really need a PvP server to test SOME things |
| 22:07.47 | Nomad_Wanderer | So you have 2 guilds. Though it would have to be PVE if the two guilds are on the same server. |
| 22:07.53 | shouryuu | I almost want to reroll want for that reason |
| 22:07.58 | cladhaire | Can't we just simulate PVP on a PVE server tho? |
| 22:08.00 | shouryuu | make a badass healedin |
| 22:08.08 | Beladona | not fully |
| 22:08.21 | Tain | "Ok just going to see if my automount macro works... AAAAH killed again!" |
| 22:08.30 | MoonWolf | half the guild chat would be, hang on what did you say i ysut reloaded |
| 22:08.36 | Beladona | maybe this is why we haven't done a wowi guild yet |
| 22:08.39 | Beladona | hehe |
| 22:08.48 | Tain | Even better, Teamspeak or somesuch. |
| 22:08.55 | Beladona | yeah |
| 22:08.59 | Beladona | I have a teamspeak server |
| 22:09.11 | Nomad_Wanderer | CLASSIC : "Thhalf the guild chat would be, hang on what did you say i ysut reloaded" |
| 22:09.11 | Tain | Oooh I can't wait to hear the discussions between certain people when you can actually *hear* them. |
| 22:09.21 | cladhaire | haha |
| 22:09.25 | Beladona | heh |
| 22:09.40 | Beladona | oh damn, check out what I just found: http://www.iconv.com/diff.htm |
| 22:09.50 | Beladona | online unix diff |
| 22:09.53 | Tain | I'm not sure if it's a good thing that this is all sounding more like a source of amusement for me than anything. |
| 22:10.00 | cladhaire | If you're looking for a low-pop low latency server that is PVE.. I have a base on Kael'thas horde already.. could finance the horde guild |
| 22:10.12 | Beladona | now if I can get that and rewrite it for my needs |
| 22:12.58 | Nomad_Wanderer | Does anyone know of an addon that allows shift click item linking into a text box? Or does anyone know how the chat text box allows it, but "<EditBox name="$parent_InputBox" inherits="InputBoxTemplate" id="15">" doesn;t see to allow it? |
| 22:13.02 | Cair | right, we can't have both horde and alliance characters on the same PvP server, so how the fuck do we do that? and the two sides can't talk to each other anyway? |
| 22:13.23 | Nomad_Wanderer | If you wanted the same server it owuld have to be PVE |
| 22:13.26 | Beladona | we would either need to pick one side, or go PvE |
| 22:13.27 | Cair | It's gotta be PvE |
| 22:13.49 | Tain | Still wouldn't be able to communicate with each other. |
| 22:13.49 | Cair | so that we can have both sides, to check Pally vs Shammy |
| 22:13.59 | Cair | TeamSpeak or Vent |
| 22:14.09 | Tain | Oh yeah. |
| 22:14.15 | Cair | or here :p |
| 22:14.18 | Tain | hehe |
| 22:14.21 | Beladona | aye |
| 22:14.23 | Beladona | irc is fine |
| 22:14.30 | Tain | I want to try my Barry White voice changer though. |
| 22:14.59 | Cair | It's gotta be PvE though, so you can have chars on both sides ... right? |
| 22:15.04 | Tain | "Oh yeah baby.. can't get enough of your Lua." |
| 22:15.19 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:15.26 | Esamynn | ................ |
| 22:15.30 | cladhaire | Cair: correct.. |
| 22:16.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | Is there a part of the wow wiki that talks about the xml? not http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API but the actual tags/schema? |
| 22:16.27 | Tain | I think we're all missing the most imporant thing. |
| 22:16.31 | Tain | What's the guildname going to be? |
| 22:16.38 | cladhaire | WowI-Pimps imo |
| 22:16.41 | Beladona | wowinterface? |
| 22:16.44 | Nomad_Wanderer | Developer |
| 22:16.50 | Nomad_Wanderer | :P |
| 22:16.55 | cladhaire | YourMoms-an-Addon |
| 22:16.56 | Iriel | Nomad_Wanderer : I dont think so |
| 22:17.04 | Beladona | lol! |
| 22:17.09 | shouryuu | that rocks clad |
| 22:17.24 | cladhaire | Maybe slouken will come and roll a rogue =) |
| 22:17.26 | Esamynn | Oh, I just remembed I had a question about Lua, is the "this" keyword that is used in the Blizz default ui actually a global variable or is "this" equivalent to "self" ? |
| 22:17.27 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:17.30 | Iriel | Nomad_Wanderer : Though FrameXML\UI.xsd at least gives you the whole structure. |
| 22:17.31 | Tain | Well, one guild can be WoWI-Pimps, and the other can be WoWI-Hos |
| 22:17.36 | Iriel | Esamynn : Global |
| 22:17.44 | Esamynn | I suspected as much, ty |
| 22:17.48 | Iriel | Esamynn : Unless it's passed as a local to a function (they do that sometimes) |
| 22:17.50 | Nomad_Wanderer | I was hpoing for some comments.. Actually ALOT of comments along with the XSD.. |
| 22:17.51 | Esamynn | Tain: .................. |
| 22:18.09 | MoonWolf | foolish |
| 22:19.18 | Iriel | Question: Does anyone read my 'Actual API changes' thread and find it useful (Or, to put it another way, should I updated THAT, or my Addons first) ? |
| 22:19.32 | Tain | Yes Iriel, it's very useful. |
| 22:19.41 | Beladona | aye |
| 22:19.45 | Esamynn | definately |
| 22:19.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | VERY USEFUL |
| 22:19.56 | Esamynn | or in other words: HELL YES! |
| 22:20.04 | Nomad_Wanderer | Please dont stop. |
| 22:20.07 | shouryuu | I don't understand a quarter of what;s written but that's because I'm ignorant. I doubt the smart people find it useless |
| 22:20.34 | Iriel | It wasn't so much whether I stop, but whether I should do that before I do my own addons.. I'm taking this as a yes tho, so I'll get to it now 8-) |
| 22:21.06 | Nomad_Wanderer | cool found it on the wiki: http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface |
| 22:22.53 | Nomad_Wanderer | pooey. Can't shift link items into the wiki editbox example either /cry. |
| 22:23.57 | Esamynn | you know, sometimes I think it would be nice if you could register some events for a specific unit |
| 22:24.17 | Beladona | putting my cvs thing on hold too so I can get to the new test compare |
| 22:25.14 | clad|dinner | Esamynn: That would be a spectacular thing |
| 22:25.48 | Esamynn | or in the case of SPELL_UPDATE_COOLDOWN, specific spells |
| 22:25.49 | Nomad_Wanderer | Anyone know how the Chatbox editbox works? |
| 22:25.49 | Iriel | Does anyone know whether in pre-0.9(Nov29) Model:SetScale(scale) changed the frame's scale or the model inside it? |
| 22:26.06 | shouryuu | would this http://pastebin.com/448811 create a table such as MyTable.MyNamesTable.MyValueTalbe ? |
| 22:26.14 | Iriel | Nomad_Wanderer : Maybe you should check the shift click code instead? I believe it's part of SetItemRef |
| 22:26.28 | Esamynn | for units, you could do that yourself if you have a lot of frames (ie. a raid ui) but for the cooldowns, not much point |
| 22:26.39 | shouryuu | ok neglet my question |
| 22:26.41 | shouryuu | it was dumb |
| 22:26.44 | Iriel | shouryuu : You didn't create the tables, you just declared their names local |
| 22:27.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can you give me a hint where the shfit click code is? I've got the interface extracted. |
| 22:27.27 | Beladona | was just thinking that |
| 22:28.10 | shouryuu | and my code is all wrong anyways :p |
| 22:28.16 | shouryuu | man I really suck :P |
| 22:28.54 | Iriel | Nomad_Wanderer : ItemRef.lua |
| 22:29.13 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thanks. |
| 22:29.55 | cladhaire | Ok.. my Druid hit 40.. and my guild broke up. That means more time for addon development |
| 22:30.07 | Beladona | doh |
| 22:30.08 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 22:30.14 | Beladona | that is kind of where I am |
| 22:30.19 | Beladona | my main char is guildless atm |
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| 22:30.38 | shouryuu | I'm in a cool guild :P |
| 22:30.43 | shouryuu | MC almost weekly |
| 22:30.49 | shouryuu | ZG like everytime we can |
| 22:30.50 | Esamynn | almost? |
| 22:30.54 | shouryuu | i'm happpy :D |
| 22:31.04 | Esamynn | i love my guild, BWL weekly, ;) |
| 22:31.08 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:31.21 | shouryuu | smartass |
| 22:31.27 | shouryuu | I'm on a low pop server :P |
| 22:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Hmm |
| 22:31.33 | Tain | We were doing MC 3 times a week and it drove me insane. I quit. |
| 22:31.38 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:31.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there an event that'll fire if you target something different, drop the current target, or acquire a new one? |
| 22:31.47 | shouryuu | we're just starting |
| 22:31.54 | shouryuu | we're starting to handle luci :P |
| 22:31.54 | cladhaire | (this is just my alt on another server).. my main guild is fine.. |
| 22:32.10 | Esamynn | we used to take 3 nights for MC too, once you get it down, you can do it in under 5 hours though |
| 22:32.16 | Beladona | the more and more I look at these online diff tools, the more it looks like they can only see whole lines that have changed, but not specifics within that line |
| 22:32.31 | Beladona | which kind of reduces the accuracy that my reports already provide |
| 22:33.10 | shouryuu | ok would this do as commented http://pastebin.com/448828 ? |
| 22:33.14 | Tain | I couldn't deal with it. 5-6 hours a night after working 8 hours a day? That's another almost full-time job that I don't get paid for. |
| 22:33.28 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:34.05 | Tain | So now I spend sometimes the same amount of time coding. :/ |
| 22:34.30 | shouryuu | hehe |
| 22:34.39 | shouryuu | at least you have no obligations toward anyone |
| 22:34.49 | shouryuu | you can stop, not pay attention, IRC whenever you want :P |
| 22:35.00 | Esamynn | yes, i've ended up as the UI person in my guild |
| 22:35.22 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:35.31 | shouryuu | My server is UI illeterate I think |
| 22:35.52 | shouryuu | *illiterate |
| 22:35.53 | Esamynn | I'll get a demand for a timer or other boss mod, and then they complain when I ask for a few extra minutes to finish coding it :P |
| 22:36.03 | shouryuu | haha |
| 22:36.55 | Esamynn | there is nothing like running MC and coding/debugging at the same time (I'm not crazy enough to try that in BWL........yet ;)) |
| 22:37.16 | cladhaire | We have Satrina and myself.. so we're able to split the time and get stuff done =) |
| 22:37.51 | shouryuu | I'm just the "how do I install UI" whore :P |
| 22:37.54 | Esamynn | I just wish there was some way to get the /combatlog output to include the chat events :( |
| 22:38.05 | shouryuu | once CTRA got mandatory for MC I got like 5 tells every 15 mins |
| 22:38.52 | Esamynn | CTRA, nice AddOn, but soo many inefficiencies :( |
| 22:39.25 | shouryuu | such as? |
| 22:40.47 | Esamynn | they often endup re-computing the same thing over and over or not reusing code, etc. Its decently done, but they don't seem to pay too much attention to efficiency |
| 22:41.02 | Esamynn | I won't even start on their awful use of memory |
| 22:41.27 | shouryuu | I have absolutely no idea how memory is actualy used so I won't comment :P |
| 22:41.49 | Esamynn | well take this for example, you know about the Sets in CTRA right? |
| 22:41.58 | shouryuu | the sets.... |
| 22:42.12 | Esamynn | for the postions, and other settings |
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| 22:42.30 | shouryuu | nope I don't |
| 22:43.09 | Esamynn | oh well, you can set up different sets of settings and then switch quickly between, them, for instance I have a by group grouping for raids up to 20 people and a by class one for 40 man raids |
| 22:43.35 | shouryuu | wow cool :P |
| 22:43.39 | shouryuu | I'll have to try that someday |
| 22:43.42 | Esamynn | those sets also store settings for the heal-cancel system (for saving mana) |
| 22:44.06 | shouryuu | yeah the mana conserve thin |
| 22:44.23 | Esamynn | the bad thing is, each one of those sets you create contains a copy of all the healing spell names, AND their translations, instead of just storing one copy and referencing it |
| 22:46.07 | Esamynn | but then, I don't think a single one of the AddOns have downloaded (and use) hasn't been modified in some fashion |
| 22:46.31 | Esamynn | this one will get Iriel, did you know DamageMeters STILL uses RegisterForSave()? :( |
| 22:46.37 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:46.42 | shouryuu | iriel is going to kill himself |
| 22:46.44 | Esamynn | its true |
| 22:47.22 | Esamynn | I couldn't believe it, I modified the toc so I could make all the variables percharacter, but now it doesn't save some of the data between ui reloads |
| 22:47.47 | Esamynn | It uses so many different variable names that I'm wondering if there is a limit on the number of variable names you can list in the toc |
| 22:47.57 | Iriel | Sad sad. 8-( |
| 22:48.12 | Iriel | But the reason I STILL have that signature (Not directly, just that it's still out there) |
| 22:48.23 | Esamynn | yah :( |
| 22:48.38 | Iriel | WoWInterface should scan LUA and XML code for RegisterForSave and pop up a confirmation box to authors who use it. |
| 22:48.52 | Esamynn | any idea if there is actually a limit on the number of variable names you can list in a toc SavedVariables entry? |
| 22:49.15 | Iriel | "You are using RegisterForSave, do you know what you are doing (Note: Iriel will kill you if you say yes when you dont): [YES] [NO] |
| 22:49.30 | Iriel | Esamynn : none that I know of , but if you have to ask, you should be using a table |
| 22:49.42 | Esamynn | not my addon :( |
| 22:49.42 | Beladona | if it was up to me, files would always get scanned for things like that |
| 22:49.56 | Tain | Add a stealth hook of RegisterForSave in one of your addons. ;) |
| 22:49.57 | Beladona | but we can't tell people how to code their addons |
| 22:50.01 | Iriel | Ok.. If you have to ask THEY should be using a table. |
| 22:50.13 | Esamynn | indeed they shouldd |
| 22:50.36 | Beladona | hey Tain, I like that |
| 22:51.12 | Esamynn | I maybe i'll recode DamageMeters to use a table and give the code to the author, just on principle |
| 22:51.16 | Beladona | RegisterFOrSave(); spams Delete <AddOnName> immediately! Non Recoverable Error! in the chat boxs |
| 22:51.43 | Esamynn | rofl |
| 22:52.40 | Beladona | purl, RegisterForSave() is <reply> RegisterForSave is the tool of satan! Begone you hethen! |
| 22:52.42 | purl | okay, Beladona |
| 22:52.53 | Beladona | ~RegisterForSave() |
| 22:52.54 | purl | RegisterForSave is the tool of satan! Begone you hethen! |
| 22:52.59 | Esamynn | nice! :) |
| 22:53.00 | Beladona | hehe |
| 22:53.06 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:53.11 | Iriel | I actually use RegisterForSave in one of my addons, but it's not a public one, and I know why i'm using it |
| 22:53.27 | Beladona | lol |
| 22:53.29 | Esamynn | eww, I just noticed, DamageMeters has translations, but it isn't even properly localized, has different copies for the translations :( |
| 22:53.38 | Beladona | Kaeltan changes his name for everything |
| 22:53.47 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Parak (n=profi@user-12hdr8d.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:53.49 | Beladona | Kaeltan|TakingADump |
| 22:53.53 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:54.01 | Esamynn | ~walmart |
| 22:54.13 | Esamynn | hmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 22:54.13 | Beladona | ~kmart |
| 22:54.25 | Beladona | ~emulate Kaeltan |
| 22:54.31 | Beladona | doh |
| 22:55.07 | Esamynn | purl, walmart is the giant box store of the Devil, beware all who shop there! |
| 22:55.09 | purl | Esamynn: okay |
| 22:55.12 | Esamynn | ~walmart |
| 22:55.14 | purl | i heard walmart is the giant box store of the Devil, beware all who shop there! |
| 22:55.22 | Esamynn | hehehe |
| 22:55.38 | Beladona | how do you make purl do an emote again? |
| 22:55.45 | Beladona | program it I mean |
| 22:55.49 | Esamynn | <action> |
| 22:55.52 | Beladona | ahh |
| 22:56.08 | Esamynn | ~literal emulate slouken |
| 22:56.09 | purl | "emulate slouken" is "<action> pokes some little piece of code.... "I wonder what this does?" ...fiddle fiddle.... *SNAP*||<action>picks up a bug swatter ... *splat* ... *splat* ... Ewww, that was a big one..." |
| 22:56.15 | Esamynn | like that |
| 22:56.47 | shouryuu | ~emulate slouken |
| 22:56.49 | purl | ACTION pokes some little piece of code.... "I wonder what this does?" ...fiddle fiddle.... *SNAP* |
| 22:56.56 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:57.10 | Esamynn | I finally figured out how to program commands like slap <nick> last night, took me an hour |
| 22:57.32 | Esamynn | ~emulate slouken |
| 22:57.33 | purl | ACTION picks up a bug swatter ... *splat* ... *splat* ... Ewww, that was a big one... |
| 22:57.38 | Esamynn | I added that one last night :) |
| 22:57.54 | Beladona | purl, emulate Kaeltan is <action> changes his name to purl|Breathing||<action> changes his name to purl|Typing||<action> changes his name to purl|Toilet |
| 22:57.56 | purl | Beladona: okay |
| 22:58.03 | Beladona | ~emulate Kaeltan |
| 22:58.05 | purl | ACTION changes his name to purl|Typing |
| 22:58.31 | Esamynn | ~lart beladona |
| 22:58.37 | Beladona | lol |
| 22:58.41 | cladhaire | =) |
| 22:58.48 | Beladona | thats a funny one |
| 22:58.52 | Esamynn | ~inigo |
| 22:58.54 | purl | Fezzik, tear his arms ... |
| 22:58.54 | shouryuu | kek |
| 22:59.00 | shouryuu | haha |
| 22:59.01 | shouryuu | my god |
| 22:59.05 | shouryuu | the princess bride |
| 22:59.09 | Esamynn | literal inigo |
| 22:59.17 | Esamynn | ~literal inigo |
| 22:59.18 | purl | "inigo" is "<reply>Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die.||<reply>He's right on top of us. I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using.||<reply>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.||<reply>Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.||<reply>Fezzik, tear his arms ..." |
| 22:59.31 | shouryuu | inconveivable! |
| 22:59.32 | krka | hm, threshold seems kinda interesting |
| 22:59.41 | shouryuu | *inconceivable! |
| 22:59.47 | Industrial | ~literal emulate Industrial |
| 22:59.48 | purl | "emulate industrial" is "<reply>:X||<reply>:(||<reply>:O||<reply>:D||<reply>:S||<reply>:/||<reply>oh noes the hordes! lololol!!!eleven111oneone||<reply>cant we all just get along?||<reply>I'm project-less for like 2 years now :| I'm like. not making monies at all lately if you know what i mean :|" |
| 22:59.58 | shouryuu | ~emulate industrial |
| 22:59.59 | purl | cant we all just get along? |
| 23:00.03 | Industrial | hehe |
| 23:00.05 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:00.09 | Industrial | that last one was about girls |
| 23:00.10 | Industrial | :> |
| 23:00.15 | shouryuu | ~emulate industrial |
| 23:00.16 | purl | oh noes the hordes! lololol!!!eleven111oneone |
| 23:00.23 | Iriel | I've updated the Wiki Widget API for 0.9 |
| 23:00.24 | shouryuu | cool :p |
| 23:00.33 | Beladona | nice |
| 23:00.46 | Esamynn | purl, no, inigo is <reply>Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die.||<reply>He's right on top of us. I wonder if he is using the same wind we are using.||<reply>You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.||<reply>Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up.||<reply>Fezzik, tear his arms off. |
| 23:00.47 | purl | okay, Esamynn |
| 23:00.51 | Esamynn | ~inigo |
| 23:00.53 | purl | You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. |
| 23:01.09 | Esamynn | ~inigo |
| 23:01.10 | purl | Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up. |
| 23:01.21 | Esamynn | bah, 5 second rule :( |
| 23:01.23 | Esamynn | ~inigo |
| 23:01.25 | purl | Let me 'splain. No, there is too much. Let me sum up. |
| 23:01.37 | Beladona | stop spamming lol |
| 23:01.46 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 23:02.02 | Esamynn | ~literal fezzik |
| 23:02.12 | Esamynn | only does inigo |
| 23:02.15 | Esamynn | :( |
| 23:02.29 | Esamynn | and I can't remember any good lines for other characters |
| 23:03.10 | shouryuu | inconceivable is one |
| 23:03.17 | shouryuu | he says it like 15 times in 10 mins |
| 23:03.22 | Iriel | And the changes thread |
| 23:03.38 | shouryuu | I can't beleive people know that movie |
| 23:03.59 | shouryuu | I thought it was some obscure dumb useless movie that people like me watched |
| 23:04.12 | Esamynn | lst time I saw it was years ago, but it sticks with you I think |
| 23:04.16 | Esamynn | ~emulate stewie |
| 23:04.17 | purl | I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. |
| 23:05.23 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:05.33 | shouryuu | it came out in 1987 I think |
| 23:05.45 | shouryuu | I saw it when I was like 7 with friends |
| 23:05.51 | shouryuu | and it just stuck :P |
| 23:06.00 | shouryuu | Especialy the |
| 23:06.06 | Esamynn | its one of those movies |
| 23:06.06 | shouryuu | asss youuuu wwwiiisssssshhhhhhh |
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| 23:07.04 | Esamynn | omg, there are none for yoda |
| 23:07.21 | SP|Sorren | hello. |
| 23:07.26 | Esamynn | hi Sorren |
| 23:08.01 | SP|Sorren | how're you all 8) |
| 23:08.21 | shouryuu | 18 |
| 23:09.08 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Verlaine (n=nicolass@25.239.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 23:09.11 | Verlaine | rawr? |
| 23:09.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge shouryuu (n=nicolass@25.239.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 23:09.41 | shouryuu | rawwr |
| 23:10.21 | SP|Sorren | you're (mostly) all mod authors right 8) |
| 23:11.30 | shouryuu | dunno |
| 23:15.14 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57) |
| 23:15.15 | Tain | Some :D |
| 23:15.22 | Guillotine | rawr |
| 23:16.15 | Esamynn | ~yoda |
| 23:16.17 | purl | Named must your fear be before banish it you can. |
| 23:16.18 | Esamynn | much better |
| 23:16.18 | Iriel | I just exist to ask slouken annoying questions and crusade against RegisterForSave |
| 23:16.42 | Esamynn | ~emulate iriel |
| 23:16.43 | purl | ACTION is beyond emulation. |
| 23:16.43 | SP|Sorren | what's wrong with registerforsave? |
| 23:16.55 | Esamynn | ~registerforsave() |
| 23:16.57 | purl | RegisterForSave is the tool of satan! Begone you hethen! |
| 23:17.03 | SP|Sorren | lol |
| 23:17.12 | Esamynn | ~tell SP|Sorren about registerforsave() |
| 23:17.36 | SP|Sorren | haha :) |
| 23:17.49 | SP|Sorren | so other than being the tool of satan, what makes it so bad? |
| 23:17.50 | krka | ~tell krka about registerforsave() |
| 23:17.55 | Guillotine | it works evilly now |
| 23:18.01 | Guillotine | if the addon doesn't completely load you lose all data |
| 23:18.14 | krka | that's a feature |
| 23:18.14 | Iriel | 1) It saves into the 'global' file not the 'addon specific' one. 2) It only works when it gets executed, so if the addon is disabled, or has a bug (or is broken by another one) it doesn't happen and your data is lost |
| 23:18.15 | Esamynn | anything you save with it is saved to the original savedvaraibles file, not to the file for your AddOn |
| 23:18.26 | Guillotine | and theres no reason to not just use #SavedVariiables |
| 23:18.30 | shouryuu | RAWR IS MY WORD! |
| 23:18.30 | Iriel | (2) is far more insidious than (1) |
| 23:18.31 | krka | the perfect way to delete unwanted data! |
| 23:18.41 | SP|Sorren | ah |
| 23:18.47 | Esamynn | ~#savedvariables |
| 23:18.50 | Iriel | Well, you spelled it wrong, so that's a perfect reason not to use #SavedVariiables. |
| 23:18.55 | Iriel | But ## SavedVariables: would work fine 8-) |
| 23:18.58 | SP|Sorren | so thats why nymbia's perl frames exploded that one time |
| 23:18.59 | Guillotine | ahh |
| 23:19.01 | Guillotine | lol |
| 23:19.04 | Guillotine | you know what i meant :{ |
| 23:19.09 | SP|Sorren | and my petfeed keeps forgetting what a fish is :/ |
| 23:19.12 | Beladona | hey Guillotine |
| 23:19.18 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:19.20 | Guillotine | hey beladona :) |
| 23:19.21 | Beladona | ~emulate Guillotine |
| 23:19.22 | purl | woohoo! spoofing links is fun! |
| 23:19.35 | Beladona | ~emulate Guillotine |
| 23:19.37 | purl | Hey Cair, what's your admin password? |
| 23:19.40 | Guillotine | haha |
| 23:19.44 | Beladona | =P |
| 23:19.49 | Guillotine | <3 |
| 23:19.50 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:19.51 | krka | ~emulate krka |
| 23:20.01 | krka | damn, purl hates me |
| 23:20.03 | shouryuu | lol <\3 |
| 23:20.09 | shouryuu | ~emulate shouryuu |
| 23:20.10 | purl | why am i a troll priest?" |
| 23:20.14 | shouryuu | haha |
| 23:20.20 | Esamynn | purl, ## SavedVariables is the work of the Gods and is the devine alternative to RegisterForSave() |
| 23:20.22 | purl | Esamynn: okay |
| 23:20.33 | shouryuu | I'd thought it was the "hi, hihi,hehe. I'm shouryuu. hihi" |
| 23:20.47 | Guillotine | ~emulate shouryuu |
| 23:20.48 | purl | hi. im shouryuu. hehe. shouryuu |
| 23:21.02 | Guillotine | much better :) |
| 23:21.34 | krka | ok, who are allowed to update purl, and how do they do it? |
| 23:21.49 | shouryuu | nooo |
| 23:22.27 | Guillotine | me |
| 23:22.30 | Guillotine | and I can't tell you how to do it |
| 23:22.45 | shouryuu | He's lying |
| 23:22.51 | shouryuu | he's a mean, insecure bully |
| 23:22.53 | Esamynn | ~update purl |
| 23:22.54 | purl | No one updates me! I'm my own person, Thank you! :P |
| 23:23.00 | Guillotine | ~emulate krka |
| 23:23.02 | purl | ACTION has no idea how to use purl... |
| 23:23.11 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:23.17 | shouryuu | ~emulate guillotine |
| 23:23.19 | purl | Hey Cair, what's your admin password? |
| 23:23.20 | krka | ~apt-get update purl |
| 23:23.35 | Guillotine | purl, tell krka about help |
| 23:23.37 | Esamynn | ~purl |
| 23:23.38 | purl | it has been said that purl is the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and jbot, or at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/, or dashingly handsome |
| 23:24.02 | Beladona | purl, no, emulate krka is <action> has no idea how to use krka... |
| 23:24.03 | purl | okay, Beladona |
| 23:24.07 | Guillotine | haha |
| 23:24.09 | Beladona | ~emulate krka |
| 23:24.10 | purl | ACTION has no idea how to use krka... |
| 23:24.27 | krka | O_o |
| 23:24.36 | Esamynn | krka: see this link http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=249&group_id=8794 |
| 23:24.51 | Esamynn | thats a short example, but play nice |
| 23:25.12 | shouryuu | will this work? http://pastebin.com/448828 |
| 23:25.50 | Beladona | anyone want to be drafted into service by wdn? I need to get some files for versions that I am missing |
| 23:26.03 | Iriel | shouryuu : No, it wont |
| 23:26.06 | shouryuu | wdn? |
| 23:26.08 | shouryuu | arrgghh |
| 23:26.17 | Beladona | my ebsite |
| 23:26.21 | Beladona | website even |
| 23:26.28 | Esamynn | I think I get what you are trying to do, just a sec shouryuu |
| 23:26.28 | shouryuu | actualy I don't need the third table... |
| 23:26.35 | Guillotine | whats wdn? |
| 23:26.42 | Iriel | shouryuu : Without some example of what the 'stuff' is, it's tricky to validate your logic |
| 23:26.48 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 23:26.54 | Iriel | shouryuu : Well, i should say, tricky to 'correct' it. |
| 23:27.01 | Guillotine | ohhh yaaaa. ill be drafted :D |
| 23:27.02 | Iriel | Beladona : What files do you need? |
| 23:27.18 | krka | working is kinda hard to tell without knowing the intention |
| 23:27.55 | Esamynn | for k,v in ipairs(MyNamesTable) do |
| 23:27.57 | Esamynn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.58 | Esamynn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.00 | Esamynn | end |
| 23:28.00 | Beladona | anything prior to 1.1.2 |
| 23:28.02 | Esamynn | should be |
| 23:28.04 | Esamynn | for k,v in ipairs(MyNamesTable) do |
| 23:28.05 | Esamynn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.07 | Esamynn | end |
| 23:28.08 | Esamynn | I think |
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| 23:28.26 | Beladona | and there are a few patches post- 1.1.2 that are elusive |
| 23:28.32 | Beladona | 1.2.2 |
| 23:28.34 | Esamynn | oh, oops, the for loop should be |
| 23:28.35 | Guillotine | Esamynn: plz use pastebin if you are going to post that many lines |
| 23:28.36 | Esamynn | for k, v in MyNamesTable do |
| 23:29.01 | Esamynn | yah, sorry, was being lazy and not figuring out how to use it |
| 23:29.19 | shouryuu | an example of the stuff http://pastebin.com/448921 |
| 23:30.03 | Beladona | missing 1.2.0 as well |
| 23:30.50 | Iriel | do you remember their TOC numbers? |
| 23:30.57 | Beladona | no |
| 23:31.05 | Iriel | pre 1.5 I indexed my files by toc |
| 23:31.10 | Beladona | that was back when they were using the minor versions |
| 23:31.14 | Guillotine | Beladona: ppl shouldn't need old version files anyway |
| 23:31.33 | Beladona | anything pre 1.1.2 would be smaller numbers than toc 4116 |
| 23:31.42 | Beladona | has nothing to do with that GUillotine |
| 23:31.43 | Guillotine | the only reason they'd be using an old version of WoW (that I can think of at least) would be on an emu server... which we don't cater to |
| 23:31.55 | Beladona | ....... |
| 23:32.05 | Guillotine | hehe. that capitalization gave me an idea. I can be GUIllotine |
| 23:32.17 | Guillotine | get it? GUI? like graphical user interface? hehe |
| 23:32.22 | Guillotine | ya. im not funny |
| 23:32.43 | Beladona | Iriel: making a list of versions I need now, I will shoot it to you in a /msg |
| 23:32.44 | Guillotine | everyone's quiet... |
| 23:33.20 | shouryuu | we're hunting wabits |
| 23:33.42 | Guillotine | <3 shouryuu |
| 23:34.06 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 23:34.14 | shouryuu | you're the funniest GUIllotine |
| 23:34.16 | shouryuu | no worries |
| 23:35.43 | Esamynn | shouryuu: http://pastebin.com/448936 should work for that first for loop in function UberNameHere() |
| 23:36.35 | shouryuu | ok cool thanks :P |
| 23:36.57 | Esamynn | mind if I modify yours directly? |
| 23:38.06 | shouryuu | go ahead : |
| 23:38.13 | Esamynn | I don't follow the purpose of the 2nd loop in that function though |
| 23:38.29 | shouryuu | don't need it :P |
| 23:38.34 | shouryuu | you can just ditch iti |
| 23:38.40 | Esamynn | lol, k |
| 23:39.31 | Esamynn | ok, I think http://pastebin.com/448941 is what you are looking for |
| 23:40.24 | shouryuu | rawr <3 |
| 23:41.22 | Guillotine | just a tip guys: you can use wow.pastebin.com Our own little private pastebin place :) |
| 23:41.54 | shouryuu | wow.pastebin.com? |
| 23:42.06 | Esamynn | purl, emulate elmer fudd is <reply> Be wery, wery quiet. I'm hunting wabits! |
| 23:42.08 | purl | Esamynn: okay |
| 23:42.17 | Guillotine | yup. wow.pastebin.com |
| 23:42.43 | Guillotine | you can see all of the recent posts are from us (cladhaire, tekkub, ect.) |
| 23:43.38 | Beladona | purl, no emulate elmer fudd is <reply> Be wewy, wewy, qwuiet, I am hunting wabbits! |
| 23:43.39 | purl | okay, Beladona |
| 23:43.49 | Esamynn | ~elmer fudd |
| 23:43.50 | purl | Be wewy, wewy, qwuiet, I am hunting wabbits! |
| 23:43.54 | Esamynn | I like that better :) |
| 23:43.56 | Beladona | he can't say rs |
| 23:44.13 | Esamynn | good point |
| 23:44.14 | Guillotine | ~emulate Beladona |
| 23:44.30 | Beladona | ~who Beladona |
| 23:44.32 | purl | one of the moderators at WoWI, owner/creator of wdn.wowinterface.com and all around cool guy |
| 23:44.51 | shouryuu | ~who shouryuu |
| 23:44.52 | purl | i heard shouryuu is an annoying forum troll |
| 23:44.57 | shouryuu | hahahaha |
| 23:44.58 | Esamynn | lol |
| 23:44.59 | Beladona | ! |
| 23:45.02 | shouryuu | that HAS to be guillotine |
| 23:45.08 | shouryuu | or maybe cair |
| 23:45.15 | Guillotine | no. that was me :) |
| 23:45.17 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:45.20 | Beladona | ~getinfo emulate shouryuu |
| 23:45.27 | Guillotine | it was the first piece of info i put into purl |
| 23:45.28 | Beladona | doh |
| 23:45.33 | shouryuu | hahha |
| 23:45.34 | Esamynn | ~literal emulate shouryuu |
| 23:45.35 | purl | "emulate shouryuu" is "<reply> hi. im shouryuu. hehe. shouryuu" |
| 23:45.37 | shouryuu | I feel so special :P |
| 23:45.47 | Beladona | ~info emulate shouryuu |
| 23:46.04 | Beladona | can't remember the command |
| 23:46.06 | Esamynn | the keyword you want is literal I think Beladona |
| 23:46.09 | Beladona | no |
| 23:46.11 | Guillotine | its factinfo |
| 23:46.14 | Beladona | that shows what it means |
| 23:46.16 | Beladona | not who set it |
| 23:46.18 | Guillotine | factinfo! |
| 23:46.21 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 23:46.24 | shouryuu | factinfo! |
| 23:46.32 | Guillotine | ~factinfo who shouryuu |
| 23:46.32 | purl | there's no such factoid as who shouryuu, Guillotine |
| 23:46.40 | Guillotine | ~factinfo shouryuu |
| 23:46.40 | purl | shouryuu -- created by Guillotine <n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57> at Mon Nov 14 23:12:51 2005 (20 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by shouryuu, 1m 48s ago. |
| 23:46.43 | Beladona | !factinfo emulate shouryuu |
| 23:46.46 | Guillotine | there :) |
| 23:46.46 | Beladona | oops |
| 23:46.52 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 23:46.56 | shouryuu | ~who guillotine |
| 23:46.57 | purl | rumour has it, guillotine is really cool. And he makes avatars |
| 23:47.01 | Guillotine | oh ya! |
| 23:47.02 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:47.08 | Beladona | keyword, rumour |
| 23:47.11 | Beladona | oh |
| 23:47.12 | Esamynn | ok, i'll be back later |
| 23:47.13 | shouryuu | haha |
| 23:47.13 | Guillotine | cair added on that last part |
| 23:47.27 | shouryuu | yeah there are capital letters after each "." |
| 23:47.36 | shouryuu | has to be cair :p |
| 23:47.44 | Guillotine | lo |
| 23:47.47 | Guillotine | lol* |
| 23:48.35 | shouryuu | I so don't want to go to school tomorow |
| 23:48.49 | Guillotine | where do you go? |
| 23:49.05 | *** join/#wowi-lounge malreth (n=malreth@cpe-70-113-94-7.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 23:49.10 | Guillotine | wait- high school or college? |
| 23:49.13 | shouryuu | it's french school |
| 23:49.20 | shouryuu | you wouldn't understand :P |
| 23:49.34 | Guillotine | i know french good |
| 23:49.41 | Guillotine | i mean, my name is french for heaven's sake |
| 23:49.44 | shouryuu | you don't know the french system |
| 23:49.46 | shouryuu | lol :P |
| 23:49.54 | Guillotine | yes I do |
| 23:50.00 | Guillotine | I'm the prime minister of french |
| 23:50.04 | Guillotine | er, france |
| 23:50.08 | Tain | Il va aller a l'ecole de hors |
| 23:50.26 | Guillotine | ~x fr en Il va aller a l'ecole de hors |
| 23:50.35 | Tain | hah |
| 23:50.40 | Tain | Oh yeah de hors is outside |
| 23:51.09 | Tain | ~x en fr tomorrow |
| 23:51.26 | Tain | I couldn't remember. It's been so many years. |
| 23:51.27 | shouryuu | ~x fr en fils de pute |
| 23:51.36 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:51.38 | Guillotine | ~x en fr Shouryuu is a stinky toilet monkey |
| 23:51.47 | shouryuu | hahaha |
| 23:51.49 | Guillotine | yay! |
| 23:51.56 | shouryuu | ~x fr en fil |
| 23:52.08 | Tain | You mean fille? I think |
| 23:52.14 | shouryuu | I need to teach purl french |
| 23:52.15 | shouryuu | fils is son |
| 23:52.19 | Tain | Oh |
| 23:52.23 | shouryuu | but it's also wires |
| 23:52.24 | Guillotine | ~x en fr Guillotine is the cooliest awesomest guy ever |
| 23:52.47 | Guillotine | why did it switch the order of awesomest and cooliest? |
| 23:52.53 | Guillotine | interesting... |
| 23:53.14 | Beladona | because they made so sense |
| 23:53.21 | Beladona | dork |
| 23:53.30 | Tain | It didn't translate those, it thinks that awesomest is a noun, and that cooliest is describing it. |
| 23:53.31 | Beladona | no* |
| 23:53.34 | Tain | Plus it made no sense. :) |
| 23:53.49 | Guillotine | ~x fr en fils d'une putain |
| 23:53.58 | Guillotine | hm. oh well |
| 23:54.04 | Guillotine | i guess wire = son |
| 23:54.26 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:54.26 | Tain | Guillotine is going to get a knock on his door and it's going to be purl showing up to smack him in person. |
| 23:54.34 | shouryuu | looool |
| 23:54.35 | Guillotine | lol |
| 23:54.39 | Guillotine | ~x en fr lol |
| 23:54.48 | Guillotine | even purl thinks its funny! |
| 23:54.50 | Tain | ~lol |
| 23:54.51 | purl | lol is, like, stands for Laughs Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 23:56.51 | Guillotine | how do you say rawr in french? |
| 23:58.25 | shouryuu | rawr |
| 23:58.33 | Tain | la rawr |
| 23:58.37 | shouryuu | le |
| 23:58.44 | Tain | No I decided it was la |
| 23:58.45 | Guillotine | la rawr is spanish |
| 23:58.49 | Guillotine | le rawr is french |
| 23:59.04 | Tain | You know that doesn't make any sense either, right? |
| 23:59.11 | Guillotine | yup |
| 23:59.21 | Tain | Ok, just checking. |
