| 00:00.03 | kremonte | i did it 5 minutes ago to install CTRA |
| 00:00.06 | Plorkyeran | every time I get stuck back in the server queue |
| 00:00.09 | kremonte | you have 1min or something |
| 00:02.10 | pagefault | that group bug is really annoying |
| 00:02.12 | pagefault | I hope 1.9 fixes it |
| 00:02.17 | pagefault | when it says you are in a group but you aren't |
| 00:02.22 | cladhaire | kremonte: he's talking about server queues.. not bg queues |
| 00:02.36 | Plorkyeran | staying in BG queues just requires getting back within 5 minutes |
| 00:04.59 | kremonte | cladhaire... i know |
| 00:05.04 | kremonte | i do that all the time for server queues -_- |
| 00:07.25 | cladhaire | *ponder* |
| 00:09.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any reason why I can't use /2 as a channel? I'm not in anything that should be taking /2, and /chatinfo 2 confirms this, but... |
| 00:09.31 | Osagasu | err, /2 is Trade |
| 00:09.36 | Osagasu | it saves it |
| 00:09.45 | Plorkyeran | Trade continues to occupy 2 even outside of zones with it |
| 00:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Bah |
| 00:09.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I killed /1 through /4 completly |
| 00:09.59 | ScytheBlade1 | But /2 persists |
| 00:10.08 | Plorkyeran | you have to get in a city to leave it |
| 00:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | That's rather agitating |
| 00:15.51 | ScytheBlade1 | That worked, thanks |
| 00:22.32 | Guillotine | so. are we ever going to make a WoWI Vent server? |
| 00:22.42 | Guillotine | :) |
| 00:22.44 | groll | hmm anyone know if there is a command to get the regular combat log chat back as it was from start? :P |
| 00:23.02 | Guillotine | ya. its called delete chat-cache.wtf |
| 00:23.04 | Guillotine | :) |
| 00:23.10 | groll | meh i dun want to :P |
| 00:24.03 | kremonte | uh |
| 00:24.09 | kremonte | then you can't? lol |
| 00:25.24 | futrtrubl | is titan panel v2 now "the" titan panel to use? |
| 00:26.03 | kremonte | titan panel v2? |
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| 00:26.21 | futrtrubl | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1442 |
| 00:27.29 | ForgottenLords | is there an easy way of retrieving the time? as a string? |
| 00:27.56 | Cide | time() ? |
| 00:28.02 | Cide | or tostring(time()) I guess |
| 00:28.09 | ForgottenLords | hmmm |
| 00:28.13 | Cide | GetTime() is for server time I believe |
| 00:28.34 | futrtrubl | nope GetTime() is the number of seconds since you started your comp |
| 00:28.39 | ForgottenLords | that gave me 17516.553. |
| 00:28.56 | Cide | ah, GetGameTime() is server time |
| 00:29.01 | ForgottenLords | I was hoping for [5:28] or something |
| 00:29.08 | Cide | local hour, minute = GetGameTime() |
| 00:29.20 | futrtrubl | there is a UI function for converting seconds to time. SecondsToTime(seconds) I believe |
| 00:29.22 | Legorol | Question about US subscription: does my credit card have to be registered to a US address to subscribe? |
| 00:29.24 | ForgottenLords | SWEET |
| 00:29.27 | ForgottenLords | you guys own! |
| 00:30.12 | Cide | ForgottenLords: use tonumber(date("%I")) .. date(":%M") for [5:28] |
| 00:30.17 | Cide | that will be local time |
| 00:30.29 | Iriel | Legorol : I'm not sure, but there's a reasonable chance it would |
| 00:30.39 | Cide | nope |
| 00:30.49 | Cide | I play in the US with a swedish CC |
| 00:31.36 | Legorol | excellent |
| 00:31.40 | Legorol | i will try, thanks |
| 00:41.39 | GenNMX | Does anyone know the slot number for the first BonusActionButton? |
| 00:44.43 | Legorol | I need suggestions for character pair names on Horde and Alliance side on Draka |
| 00:44.53 | Legorol | does Uiparent and Worldframe sound too lame? |
| 00:44.58 | Legorol | or are they taken already? |
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| 00:45.45 | Codayus | No, they don't sound too lame, but they probably are taken. :-) |
| 00:45.55 | GenNMX | OK, I think it's 73 |
| 00:48.53 | Heifeng | Is it against the forum rules to make a BLP viewer and make a thread about it? |
| 00:49.16 | cladhaire | Which forums? |
| 00:49.18 | cladhaire | and it shoudln't be. |
| 00:49.30 | Heifeng | The official WoW forums. |
| 00:49.35 | Codayus | Can't think why they'd care. |
| 00:50.00 | Heifeng | Wasn't sure if BLP viewers were allowed. Thanks for your advice. |
| 00:50.44 | Plorkyeran | whoops |
| 00:50.55 | Plorkyeran | we just won AB in 4 minutes by just sending 3 people to each node |
| 00:51.30 | Plorkyeran | 3 people should not be able to beat an entire graveyard zerg :/ |
| 00:56.12 | Tem | Cide: Why not use dat("%I:%H")? |
| 00:57.33 | Cide | %I returns it with format %.2d, and I couldn't think of a better way to change it |
| 00:57.48 | Cide | (ie 02 instead of 2) |
| 00:58.07 | Osagasu | </3 RFC |
| 00:58.10 | Tem | oh |
| 00:58.24 | Legorol | Cair, you areound? |
| 00:58.34 | Tem | I didn't read far enough back to see that he didn't want the extra digit |
| 00:58.45 | Legorol | or anyone with invite ability on Draka |
| 01:03.07 | Legorol | Ok I have Uiparent on Horde side and Worldframe on Alliance side, if someone can toss me an invite at some point that'd be great |
| 01:03.25 | Codayus | I would, but I don't believe I've got invite authority. :-( |
| 01:06.20 | pagefault | wow |
| 01:06.22 | pagefault | I love my succubus |
| 01:06.28 | pagefault | it saved the node from being capped |
| 01:06.30 | pagefault | due to lack of defense |
| 01:06.31 | Legorol | careful, you'll get seduced |
| 01:06.48 | pagefault | nothing like being polymorphed while the mage stands there with hearts coming out of his head :) |
| 01:07.42 | cladhaire | lol |
| 01:07.55 | pagefault | I don't think you are supposed to polymorph people at 30% health though |
| 01:07.58 | pagefault | because he healed me :P |
| 01:08.04 | Tem | Iriel: I found a way to move the caret, but it's hackish and dirty |
| 01:08.21 | Tem | /script local c,ot = ChatFrameEditBox ot = c:GetScript("OnTabPressed")c:SetScript("OnTabPressed",function()c:HighlightText(2,3)c:Insert("|")return ot()end) |
| 01:08.38 | Iriel | So insert does replace the highlight? |
| 01:08.42 | Tem | yes |
| 01:08.51 | Iriel | so you can do that with pretty much any character |
| 01:08.57 | Tem | yeah |
| 01:09.00 | Iriel | cool. |
| 01:09.10 | Tem | but you can't move the caret easily |
| 01:09.27 | Iriel | ? |
| 01:09.32 | Tem | nevermind |
| 01:09.39 | Tem | I'm having trouble forming thoughts |
| 01:09.49 | Iriel | surely you can just insert any character over itself? |
| 01:09.58 | Legorol | Iriel, can you toss me a bone on Draka? Or a guild invite will do too... |
| 01:10.03 | Iriel | Does inserting "\0" replace the highight with nothing |
| 01:10.09 | Tem | I'm not sure |
| 01:10.12 | Tem | let me try |
| 01:10.19 | Iriel | Legorol : I can hop over there, which side? H or A? |
| 01:10.27 | Legorol | both, pick which one first ;-) |
| 01:10.36 | Legorol | I'm Uiparent on Horde, Worldframe on A |
| 01:11.04 | Iriel | Which one are you on as NOW? |
| 01:11.11 | Legorol | sitting at char select :-) |
| 01:11.14 | Legorol | ok, A first |
| 01:11.33 | Iriel | in queue |
| 01:11.36 | Iriel | 12 left |
| 01:11.37 | Legorol | i'll message Mr. Lua |
| 01:11.41 | Legorol | that's the one, right? |
| 01:11.42 | Iriel | Ms Lua |
| 01:11.44 | pagefault | queue :( |
| 01:11.45 | Iriel | actually |
| 01:11.46 | Legorol | Ms, sorry |
| 01:11.55 | Legorol | i apologise, your ladyship |
| 01:12.17 | pagefault | haha |
| 01:16.27 | GenNMX | Ugh! These BonusActionButtons are SO frustrating! |
| 01:17.08 | GenNMX | I can't figure out if they have a valid Slot number or not |
| 01:18.57 | Iriel | Can't you just call the UI function to figure out slot number from a button? |
| 01:19.02 | Legorol | Thanks Iriel |
| 01:19.14 | Iriel | GetPagedID or whatever it is (I forget) |
| 01:19.25 | Legorol | ActionButton_GetPagedID |
| 01:19.29 | GenNMX | Iriel: Hmmm |
| 01:20.11 | Osagasu | I am OFFICIALLY A DORK! |
| 01:20.57 | pagefault | congrats? |
| 01:21.30 | Osagasu | :P |
| 01:21.41 | Legorol | whatabout unofficially |
| 01:21.57 | Tem | Iriel: inserting \0 inserts nothing but still moves the caret, however, you still delete whatever is there already |
| 01:22.07 | Iriel | yeah, btu that lets you move to pos 0 |
| 01:22.11 | Legorol | Hm, this is scary.. I think i may just have found out a way to exploit a loophole in Blizz's billing system to play for free |
| 01:22.14 | Iriel | You SetText with an extra char at front, then remove it |
| 01:22.25 | Iriel | Legorol : I bet you haven't |
| 01:22.25 | Tem | aye |
| 01:22.26 | Osagasu | tell us Leg! |
| 01:22.31 | Iriel | Legorol : But tell us! |
| 01:22.31 | Osagasu | :P |
| 01:22.33 | Legorol | Iriel, i'd be surprised too |
| 01:22.39 | Tem | I'm going to write a few methods for editboxes |
| 01:22.49 | Legorol | I am not sure it's a good idea to discuss this |
| 01:22.50 | Tem | GetCarot |
| 01:22.53 | Tem | SetCarot |
| 01:22.57 | Legorol | It probably isn't even true |
| 01:23.01 | Iriel | I figured it wouldnt take long before you created an editbox enhancement metatable |
| 01:23.11 | Tem | hehe |
| 01:23.11 | Legorol | Anyway, here goes my story: |
| 01:23.16 | Legorol | i took an inactive account, added a CC to it |
| 01:23.29 | Legorol | i could log into the game immediately, but the payment state was "Pending" as opposed to "Active" |
| 01:23.33 | Tem | Iriel: did you see my pastebin to memoize every frame method? |
| 01:23.34 | Legorol | i presume it was clearing my CC or whatnot |
| 01:23.49 | Legorol | i didn't realise this, and i thought ok, the 1 month payment has gone through, so i cancelled it |
| 01:23.57 | GenNMX | Iriel: Well thanks for that, now I know that it can be either 73 or 97 for a Druid (uggggh) |
| 01:24.03 | Iriel | Tem: Assuming it's the one from this channel a week or two ago when we were all discussing it, yes. |
| 01:24.05 | Legorol | as soon as i did that, the CC entry was removed, didn't even show up in the payment history |
| 01:24.08 | Iriel | Tem: Otherwise, no 8-) |
| 01:24.11 | Legorol | but between the two, i could play |
| 01:24.20 | Legorol | of course once i removed the CC i couldn't log in anymore |
| 01:24.31 | Legorol | so that's a sign that the 1 month hasn't gone through yet |
| 01:24.37 | Legorol | but whilst it was Pending, i could play |
| 01:24.49 | Iriel | Their CC updates are a bit odd. |
| 01:24.50 | Legorol | so how about every evening when i want to play, i add a CC, when i'm finished i cancel it |
| 01:25.01 | Iriel | Now, question is, whether they've got a queued authorization against your card |
| 01:25.13 | Legorol | if they do, then i'm screwed, as i'll be billed twice :D |
| 01:25.14 | Iriel | and how much 'account management interest' that is going to generate if you keep doing it |
| 01:25.26 | Legorol | that's probably true as well |
| 01:25.28 | Iriel | well, not necessarily, auths dont mean you're billed |
| 01:25.29 | Codayus | Of course, A) They might be already in the process of billing you, and B) No telling how long you've got in the "pending" state before it goes through. |
| 01:25.33 | Legorol | i'm fairly sure it's not a long-term solution |
| 01:25.46 | Legorol | Codayus, that's true as well |
| 01:25.47 | Codayus | But interesting. |
| 01:25.48 | Iriel | It just means they CAN settle the amount from your account later |
| 01:25.49 | Legorol | it was just weird |
| 01:25.56 | Codayus | Their billing system is so *totally* broken. :-( |
| 01:26.03 | Legorol | i like it actually |
| 01:26.09 | Legorol | it lists everything very very clearly |
| 01:26.12 | Codayus | You can't post on the forums on the monthly renewal date... |
| 01:26.16 | Legorol | what's pending, what's cancelled, what's active |
| 01:26.22 | Legorol | Codayus, that's bad :( |
| 01:26.22 | Iriel | The only brokenness is the fuzzy 'pending' state |
| 01:26.25 | Iriel | everything else works |
| 01:26.26 | Codayus | Then again, maybe that's an issue with their forums, which are even more totally broken... |
| 01:26.52 | Codayus | Actually, since "total" is an aboslute, I guess that means the billing system is actually just partially broken. |
| 01:26.53 | Legorol | i am hoping that by readding my CC i won't be billed twice |
| 01:26.56 | Legorol | i will find out in a few days, i guess |
| 01:27.13 | Legorol | i'd be surprised if they did though.. |
| 01:27.22 | Legorol | since i did in fact just cancel it without realising it hadn't gone through yet |
| 01:27.28 | Legorol | and charging me twice for that would be insane |
| 01:27.28 | Codayus | So yeah, I retract my statement that the billing system is totally broken, unless Leg does get billed twice. |
| 01:27.32 | Tem | Iriel: I don't think I was here when that discussion was made... http://wow.pastebin.com/457970 |
| 01:28.04 | Iriel | Tem: Well, then someone else and I did this already, a week or more ago -- Nice FPS boost |
| 01:28.22 | Iriel | Though not very 'safe' if people like you or I are adding funky metatables to override things. |
| 01:28.44 | Tem | really adds an FPS Boost? |
| 01:28.50 | Iriel | 2-3 fps |
| 01:28.54 | Iriel | for whoever it was who was testing it |
| 01:28.55 | kergoth | yep |
| 01:28.55 | Tem | is their C function /that/ slow? |
| 01:28.57 | kergoth | it was me |
| 01:28.58 | Iriel | Yes |
| 01:29.00 | kergoth | apparently |
| 01:29.00 | Iriel | it's REALLY slow |
| 01:29.01 | Tem | wow |
| 01:29.04 | Tem | that's horrible |
| 01:29.05 | Iriel | I benchamrked it a while back |
| 01:29.14 | Tem | yeah I remember those tests |
| 01:29.21 | Legorol | Codayus, it's also broken if i can play for any length of time without getting billed ultimately |
| 01:29.23 | Tem | most interesting |
| 01:29.23 | Iriel | the __index dispatch is an order of magnitude slower than the functions themselves |
| 01:29.35 | kremonte | huh? fps boost? |
| 01:29.41 | Codayus | Legorol: True, but not THAT bad if it's on the order of an hour or two... |
| 01:30.07 | Legorol | well if i can play for 2 hours each night for free.. |
| 01:30.10 | Legorol | that's quite a lot |
| 01:30.18 | Legorol | but you are right, it would probably flag my account sooner or later |
| 01:30.31 | Tem | Iriel: as long as any metatable enhancements go on AFTER that is installed I think it will work fine |
| 01:31.58 | Iriel | Other way around |
| 01:32.02 | Iriel | But yes |
| 01:32.19 | Iriel | Actually.. no. |
| 01:32.22 | Iriel | It's kind of a mess both ways |
| 01:32.29 | Iriel | it has to be APPLIED first, but EXECUTED last |
| 01:33.31 | Iriel | A 'safer' version would store the memoized versions in a different table |
| 01:33.44 | Iriel | it'd have worse overhead, because it'd still call the metahandler every time |
| 01:33.54 | Iriel | but it would allow a later metatable to replace a function |
| 01:34.36 | kergoth | oh, a proxy table? |
| 01:35.07 | Iriel | yeah, but it'd have to be a per-object proxy table |
| 01:35.11 | Iriel | so it's a bit of a beast |
| 01:35.48 | Iriel | but still not THAT awful 8-) |
| 01:35.59 | Tem | hmm, I see what you mean now |
| 01:36.23 | Tem | I was forgetting that the way I usually mess with metatables on frames is to kill the old one |
| 01:36.56 | Tem | no, wait |
| 01:37.03 | Tem | what I said still stands |
| 01:37.18 | Iriel | no it doesn't |
| 01:37.39 | Iriel | suppose I write an index method which returns a different SetText than the default one |
| 01:38.11 | Iriel | If I call SetText on the object BEFORE installing my metatable |
| 01:38.13 | Iriel | I'll break my code |
| 01:38.23 | Tem | local mt = getmetatable(edit) setmetatable(edit,{__index = function(t,k) return self[k] or mt.__index(t,k)end}) |
| 01:38.26 | Iriel | I can almost certainly come up with more perverse examples also |
| 01:38.44 | kremonte | so wait, what increases FPS? i get like 20fps idle and any bit helps =X |
| 01:38.50 | kergoth | Tem: you dont need to do that |
| 01:39.05 | Tem | kergoth: how then? |
| 01:39.23 | Iriel | kergoth : You're seeing that code out of context |
| 01:39.28 | Iriel | kergoth : Dont assume you know what 'self' is |
| 01:39.38 | kergoth | hm? |
| 01:39.39 | kergoth | i'm not |
| 01:39.44 | Tem | self is the class that is overriding |
| 01:39.45 | kergoth | the point is, you dont need to replace the metatable at all |
| 01:39.52 | kergoth | you can just replace the __index function in the existing one, cant you? |
| 01:39.55 | kergoth | unless i'm missing something |
| 01:39.55 | Tem | no |
| 01:39.57 | Iriel | No |
| 01:40.01 | pagefault | hmm |
| 01:40.02 | kergoth | which i am, clearly |
| 01:40.03 | Tem | all frames have the same metatable |
| 01:40.03 | Iriel | Every frame shares ONE metatable |
| 01:40.08 | kergoth | ahh right |
| 01:40.09 | Tem | so if you change one |
| 01:40.10 | pagefault | defiler's cloth belt or dreadmist |
| 01:40.15 | Tem | it changes them all |
| 01:40.26 | Tem | like http://wow.pastebin.com/457970 |
| 01:40.47 | Tem | makes all frames use the memoizing thing |
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| 01:40.57 | kergoth | right yeah, thats what i did when playing with it before |
| 01:41.04 | kergoth | just spaced it for a minute there |
| 01:43.17 | Tem | Iriel: as long as the __index changing goes on before we set the frame to memoize, it should be fine |
| 01:43.26 | Tem | unless you can think of some corner case? |
| 01:43.54 | Iriel | Tem: If you replace the metatable with the code you pasted earlier, it works |
| 01:44.11 | Iriel | Tem: If you capture the __index reference adn call that directly, it doesn,t the overloaded frame isn't memoized |
| 01:44.22 | Iriel | Tem: but since they'll be the minority, i think it's still "safe" |
| 01:44.30 | Iriel | So essentially you could make a "Turbo" macro that installs that code |
| 01:44.39 | Iriel | Once your UI is all loaded, hit the button and see what happens |
| 01:45.00 | Iriel | I believe kergoth's observation was that everything slows down for a bit and then is faster after it's all cached |
| 01:48.13 | Tem | Ol |
| 01:48.15 | Tem | Ok |
| 01:48.16 | AnduinLothar | wow, that movie messes with you. a lot better than I expected. either that or i'm justa huge softy |
| 01:48.24 | cladhaire | What mvie? |
| 01:48.31 | AnduinLothar | war of the worlds |
| 01:48.31 | Tem | I follow you |
| 01:48.37 | cladhaire | heh |
| 01:48.46 | cladhaire | haven't seen it |
| 01:48.48 | kergoth | that the new one or hte old one? |
| 01:49.05 | AnduinLothar | like i even knew the plot line and i'm like gripped the whole movie.. |
| 01:49.07 | AnduinLothar | newest |
| 01:49.13 | AnduinLothar | 2005vers |
| 01:49.22 | Cair|afk | the *old* one was a radio play |
| 01:49.22 | AnduinLothar | spielburg |
| 01:49.34 | AnduinLothar | ya, i've read the radio play |
| 01:50.07 | kergoth | i've read the book, thats about it |
| 01:50.13 | Iriel | There's a musical version too |
| 01:50.16 | AnduinLothar | but man. in full 5.1 surround by yourself on a couch with the base up so you can feel the tripods steps... |
| 01:50.21 | Iriel | Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds |
| 01:51.01 | Nomad_Wanderer | Thought you were talking about the BBC Tripods.. (Joined the conversation late) |
| 01:51.01 | AnduinLothar | has got to be one of the best movies for surround i've seen in a long time |
| 01:51.18 | AnduinLothar | heard* |
| 01:51.43 | Iriel | Hm.. I guess i'll have to try it now |
| 01:51.43 | AnduinLothar | better than top gun and private ryan by leaps and bounds |
| 01:51.49 | Iriel | I'm fairly fussy on my sound. |
| 01:52.14 | AnduinLothar | cause those ones you can tell they were deliberatly put into other speakers |
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| 01:52.52 | Iriel | I dont recall anything audiably memorable on either Top Gun or Ryan, so you're probably right. |
| 01:52.53 | AnduinLothar | there's one part in WotW where there a giant storm and you can feel the lightening and the laundry on wires is flapping all around you |
| 01:53.43 | AnduinLothar | top gun had the flight combat scenes in surround so you could hear which direction the planes were |
| 01:54.02 | AnduinLothar | and private ryan has good burning and bullet whizzing sound effects |
| 01:54.06 | Iriel | The Game is one of the better movies, sound wise, even today. |
| 01:54.25 | Iriel | I seem to recall Master and Commander being well done also |
| 01:54.29 | AnduinLothar | sad. i have a cheep non-surround copy of the game. love it, might have to pay for it |
| 01:54.55 | AnduinLothar | haven't seen MaC |
| 01:55.47 | AnduinLothar | course maybe cause i was so into the movie i wasn't purely critical |
| 01:55.56 | AnduinLothar | but that's part of what makes it good |
| 01:56.06 | Iriel | I may watch it later adn see what I think |
| 01:56.14 | Iriel | It's sitting in the 'unwatched' pile at present |
| 01:56.15 | AnduinLothar | you're not sposed to be listening for the surround when you're watching a movie |
| 01:56.33 | Iriel | is it in DTS:ES or DD:Ex ? |
| 01:56.37 | Iriel | Or just 5.1? |
| 01:56.56 | AnduinLothar | i mean plot wise the stoy's old, but all the special effects are pretty beleavable |
| 01:57.02 | cladhaire | I prefer DTS |
| 01:57.21 | Iriel | cladhaire : All things being equal I do also, unless they've screwed it up 8-) |
| 01:57.23 | cladhaire | and I haven't seen the game in SS.. so I may have to pick that up |
| 01:57.59 | AnduinLothar | it's dts i believe |
| 01:58.03 | pagefault | wtf is that some kind of exploit, if I am unflagged and they attack my pet I become flagged? |
| 01:58.16 | cladhaire | was your pet flagged? |
| 01:58.27 | pagefault | my pet would have a different flag than me? |
| 01:58.29 | cladhaire | i dunno |
| 01:58.31 | AnduinLothar | but it's in both i think, so whatever u support |
| 01:58.34 | cladhaire | its possible.. never played a hunter =) |
| 01:58.39 | pagefault | because I for sure was never flagged |
| 01:58.42 | pagefault | i'm a warlock |
| 01:58.48 | AnduinLothar | DVD, Widescreen, Aspect Ratio 1.85:1, Dolby Digital (5.1), DTS 5.1, Dolby Surround Sound, English, French, Spanish Subtitled |
| 01:58.49 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 01:59.02 | pagefault | that sort of pisses me off |
| 01:59.16 | pagefault | I don't think my pet can be flagged and not me though |
| 01:59.46 | cladhaire | I'm not sure.. was wondering if they follow the same rules. |
| 01:59.59 | pagefault | oh well I just better keep it passive mode |
| 02:00.03 | pagefault | when I am not in bg |
| 02:00.04 | Iriel | AnduinLothar : heh, I just went and looked 8-) |
| 02:01.10 | Iriel | pagefault : once your pet attacks them back, you get flagged |
| 02:01.52 | Iriel | I think they are separate flags, but I dont think it's possible to have them with different values |
| 02:02.20 | pagefault | but I am wondering how they attacked my unflagged pet? |
| 02:02.48 | Iriel | now that I dont know. |
| 02:03.33 | AnduinLothar | think i liked about WotW was that it was pure tension. It's not like a horror or suspense where the whole purpose is to surprise you and use shock value to scare you |
| 02:04.19 | pagefault | dunno |
| 02:04.23 | pagefault | I just know this isn't the first time it's happened |
| 02:04.26 | pagefault | i'm not sure if it's a bug or what |
| 02:05.37 | AnduinLothar | mmm, Batlefield Earth's almost done downloading too. heard it was pretty much a joke from most of my friends |
| 02:05.53 | Iriel | That's pretty consistent with what I heard also |
| 02:06.53 | AnduinLothar | well i'll prolly watch it later and give my review. I'm a fan of classic sci-fi tho and inclined to enjoy things that other people dislike, just because... so i'm not really a reliable source |
| 02:08.12 | pagefault | man the wow forum is slow |
| 02:09.04 | kergoth | battlefield earth is .. entertaining if you dont take it too seriously |
| 02:09.10 | Tain | All games should have rested experience. |
| 02:09.15 | kergoth | course i liked Wing Commander and other movies most dont |
| 02:09.44 | AnduinLothar | i'm pretty much going for entertainment |
| 02:10.16 | AnduinLothar | it's hard for me to be too critical of old movies, just cause they did it without the tech we have now |
| 02:10.37 | Iriel | I believe you'll find BF:E bad for other reasons |
| 02:11.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Is there any way to completly disable the trade channel? When I turn it off and /leave it, then restart WoW, it simply bumps all of the other channels down (what was /1 is now /2), and doesn't even join the trade channel. |
| 02:11.30 | AnduinLothar | it just hurts my brain to think of spielburg chopping and splicing single frames in film reels in his spare time.. |
| 02:11.48 | Iriel | ScytheBlade1 : What do you mean by 'disable' then? |
| 02:12.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I've turned off all of the general channels, completly. I don't display them anywhere, and then /leave them all |
| 02:12.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Say I /join blahblahblah, it gets /1 |
| 02:12.24 | AnduinLothar | that's the way the channels work. if you aren't in them the rest get bumped down the index |
| 02:12.35 | Cair | jibbajabba |
| 02:12.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I logout, exit |
| 02:12.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Start it up again |
| 02:12.48 | ScytheBlade1 | blahblahblah is at /2 and /1 is empty, completly |
| 02:13.04 | AnduinLothar | where you in a city when you left the trade channel? |
| 02:13.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 02:13.08 | ScytheBlade1 | IF |
| 02:13.20 | kremonte | whats the cmd to find if a target is hostile? |
| 02:13.27 | kremonte | UnitIsFriend? |
| 02:13.32 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 02:13.35 | kremonte | kk |
| 02:13.41 | AnduinLothar | no |
| 02:13.46 | AnduinLothar | UnitIsEnemy |
| 02:13.46 | kremonte | ;( |
| 02:13.50 | AnduinLothar | i think |
| 02:13.59 | kremonte | well yar, i want to know if the target isn't nice then to heal myself, else heal target =O |
| 02:14.03 | kremonte | level 10 druid ftw |
| 02:14.19 | AnduinLothar | dont u have the damn wiki bookmarked? |
| 02:14.24 | ForgottenLords | does anyone know what Orc, Tauren, Undead and Troll translate into for the WoW French and German clients? |
| 02:14.31 | kremonte | no firefox open ^_~ |
| 02:14.35 | ScytheBlade1 | The funny part is, if I /leave blahblahblah and then re-join it |
| 02:14.36 | ScytheBlade1 | It'll get /1 |
| 02:14.56 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:14.58 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.15 | kremonte | i was just confirming if it was the function, calm down =O i'm just lazy |
| 02:15.19 | Bela|AFK | Scythe, I believe you join channels by default when you start wow, and then it reads your rpeferences to see that you left them |
| 02:15.26 | Bela|AFK | and it leaves them |
| 02:15.31 | Bela|AFK | that is why those numbers are empty |
| 02:15.35 | AnduinLothar | mmm, dont think so bela |
| 02:15.39 | kremonte | opening firefox and opening wiki takes a whole 10 seconds |
| 02:16.00 | Bela|AFK | do some testing and prove the cause then |
| 02:16.03 | AnduinLothar | pretty sure it reads in your chat-cache.txt before joining anyhting |
| 02:16.27 | Bela|AFK | it would explain his problem if it didn't |
| 02:16.38 | AnduinLothar | tell me what your first CHANNELS - END block says in your chat-cache scyth |
| 02:17.18 | pagefault | ugh |
| 02:17.19 | AnduinLothar | Example (Spam): |
| 02:17.21 | AnduinLothar | CHANNELS |
| 02:17.23 | AnduinLothar | Sky |
| 02:17.23 | AnduinLothar | CTAChannel |
| 02:17.23 | AnduinLothar | endgame |
| 02:17.23 | AnduinLothar | END |
| 02:17.23 | AnduinLothar | ZONECHANNELS 8388611 |
| 02:17.24 | pagefault | they want to charge $40 to move characters |
| 02:17.27 | pagefault | what a cash grab |
| 02:17.37 | kremonte | $40? wtf |
| 02:17.50 | pagefault | still better than SOE |
| 02:18.10 | kremonte | there are no transfers in FFXI, and ireally wanna transfer my toon T_T |
| 02:18.42 | pagefault | at least thats what the current rumour is |
| 02:18.48 | Tain | Ah damnit, nothing on tv and there's a DVD stuck in my DVD player that won't come out. |
| 02:18.58 | Cair | where do you see that pagefault? |
| 02:19.07 | Tain | I should have spent more than $30 on the player for my bedroom. :/ |
| 02:19.11 | Bela|AFK | Anduin, how does that block show anything about channel joining at loadtime? |
| 02:19.20 | AnduinLothar | heh, tain... sound sliek a tapedeck.. |
| 02:19.24 | Bela|AFK | yours only has custom channels listed |
| 02:19.43 | Cair | ah, rumour, not confirmed ... why bitch about it then? it isn't confirmed yet |
| 02:19.45 | AnduinLothar | bela: zonechannels are hashed listing of you server channels |
| 02:19.49 | Bela|AFK | right |
| 02:20.05 | Bela|AFK | this is a question of how the load order works though |
| 02:20.19 | AnduinLothar | for you it is. i just want to fix his problem |
| 02:20.25 | Tain | Pooh's Heffalump movie is on "On-Demand".. |
| 02:20.29 | kremonte | 1 more question, how do i know whether or not i have a target? |
| 02:20.44 | Bela|AFK | good luck |
| 02:20.48 | AnduinLothar | UnitExists("target") |
| 02:20.51 | kremonte | thanks |
| 02:21.28 | pagefault | Cair http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6128672&p=1&tmp=1#post6128672 |
| 02:23.56 | kergoth | grrrr.. downloading this torrent at 0.37K/s |
| 02:24.16 | Bela|AFK | $40 seems fine |
| 02:24.20 | Bela|AFK | I would pay that |
| 02:24.32 | Bela|AFK | but then I paid Sony more than that to move characters |
| 02:26.16 | AnduinLothar | Anyone got an answer: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=278164&p=1&tmp=1#post278164 |
| 02:27.16 | Tain | Ah heck, The Rundown is on. I'll wach that. |
| 02:27.48 | kremonte | AnduinLothar - thats cool, i would love to know that too o_o |
| 02:28.16 | AnduinLothar | if you can make it that shape, why not others... only thing i can think of is liek what Yatlas does |
| 02:28.33 | kremonte | what does yadlas do? o.o |
| 02:28.57 | AnduinLothar | minimap detail map |
| 02:29.10 | Bela|AFK | interesting concept |
| 02:29.20 | kremonte | he still has tracking info on it though |
| 02:29.21 | AnduinLothar | pretty cool, but the implimentation doesn't |
| 02:29.22 | Bela|AFK | deserves testing, hacking, and client crashing |
| 02:29.26 | Bela|AFK | Tem? |
| 02:29.31 | kremonte | lol |
| 02:29.31 | Bela|AFK | lol |
| 02:29.34 | Tain | I think it's just a frame placed, with the normal minimap outline frame hidden. |
| 02:29.34 | AnduinLothar | make it very useful yet |
| 02:29.39 | pagefault | damn |
| 02:29.46 | pagefault | this bugged mob in blasted lands won't stop chasing us or die |
| 02:29.47 | pagefault | :( |
| 02:29.48 | kremonte | but it has tracking, i thought you couldnt get that info |
| 02:29.51 | AnduinLothar | well the corners seem to be there.. |
| 02:30.23 | Bela|AFK | yeah, it could be a black backgroud underneath the default minimap, with the outline hidden and a new outline |
| 02:30.25 | kremonte | that doesnt look like full zoomed out, maybe its clipped |
| 02:30.27 | Bela|AFK | hmm... |
| 02:30.38 | Tain | You can hide the rest of the minimap outlines. |
| 02:30.53 | Tain | And show just the map. |
| 02:31.15 | Tain | Just not sure about how it's sized/clipped |
| 02:31.58 | Bela|AFK | whatever it is, I like it |
| 02:32.11 | Tain | Moving it half off the screen is easy, it's the bottom I'm not sure about. |
| 02:33.56 | pagefault | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=6190328&s=new&tmp=1#new |
| 02:33.56 | pagefault | ooh |
| 02:34.00 | pagefault | I might have opened up a can of worms |
| 02:34.33 | pagefault | it's a pretty lame exploit if thats what it is |
| 02:34.43 | pagefault | heh |
| 02:36.19 | kremonte | oh god |
| 02:36.21 | kremonte | that's how.. |
| 02:37.07 | kremonte | lol, time to go have some fun on hunters in xroads! |
| 02:37.11 | pagefault | haha |
| 02:37.17 | pagefault | so I assume it has happened to you before as well |
| 02:37.20 | pagefault | mysteriously being flagged |
| 02:37.29 | kremonte | many times |
| 02:37.38 | kremonte | i normally dont have pets on defensive |
| 02:37.46 | pagefault | it's probably a "feature" for rogues |
| 02:37.49 | kremonte | but like, i put them on defensive/aggresive and dueling rogues |
| 02:37.55 | kremonte | when* |
| 02:38.07 | kremonte | sometimes i forget, afk in IF, and suddenly die to a rogue |
| 02:38.20 | pagefault | I know the guy did it on purpose |
| 02:38.24 | pagefault | because he was like laughing at me |
| 02:38.26 | pagefault | then I was flagged |
| 02:38.35 | ScytheBlade1 | How did he do it though? That's the question |
| 02:38.36 | kremonte | yup |
| 02:38.38 | Tain | Oh the minimap is new frame graphics copied to the data folder |
| 02:38.42 | kremonte | by attacking hte pet on defensive |
| 02:38.48 | kremonte | pet bug. |
| 02:38.51 | ScytheBlade1 | How'd he do that though? |
| 02:38.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 02:38.58 | ScytheBlade1 | You "just can"? |
| 02:39.01 | pagefault | yes |
| 02:39.03 | pagefault | go have fun :( |
| 02:39.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Fun |
| 02:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:39.09 | ScytheBlade1 | It's sorely tempting |
| 02:39.15 | ScytheBlade1 | But it's also quite likely reportable |
| 02:39.20 | Iriel | I sthat because the minimap is really a ssquare textuer with a round mask? |
| 02:39.22 | pagefault | it's a huge issue |
| 02:39.23 | Iriel | And they just replace the mask? |
| 02:39.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It would be too |
| 02:39.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow |
| 02:39.34 | kremonte | all a GM would say is that you were flag and didnt realize it |
| 02:39.57 | kremonte | in fact, thats what GM said to me on two occasions |
| 02:40.21 | Tain | Yep, Minimap border and a mask. |
| 02:40.47 | kremonte | it has a mask? |
| 02:40.56 | kremonte | word ._. |
| 02:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | Wow, that's....so abusable |
| 02:41.12 | Tain | Textures\MinimapMask.blp |
| 02:41.16 | pagefault | yep |
| 02:41.20 | pagefault | confirmed exploit/bug |
| 02:41.23 | pagefault | I just reproduced it |
| 02:41.24 | pagefault | lame |
| 02:41.56 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 02:42.28 | pagefault | let the fun begin |
| 02:42.56 | ScytheBlade1 | You may want to delete that thread :/ |
| 02:43.03 | pagefault | no |
| 02:43.06 | pagefault | I want them to fix it |
| 02:44.08 | pagefault | just keep your pet on passive mode when you aren't doing anything and you should be fine |
| 02:44.25 | ScytheBlade1 | On passive - can you still kill the pet? |
| 02:44.32 | pagefault | no |
| 02:44.39 | pagefault | the pet doesn't try to attack back |
| 02:44.42 | pagefault | which causes you to be flaggee |
| 02:44.44 | pagefault | err flagged |
| 02:44.54 | ScytheBlade1 | huh |
| 02:45.01 | pagefault | well actually |
| 02:45.04 | pagefault | I don't know if the pet can be killed |
| 02:45.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah :P |
| 02:45.07 | pagefault | I didn't test that |
| 02:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | You really should, refine the bug a bit more |
| 02:45.26 | pagefault | damn |
| 02:45.40 | pagefault | I will have to later when my alliance friend is out of his guild instance thingy |
| 02:46.27 | kremonte | someone posted "probably another root kit deal." rofl |
| 02:46.32 | pagefault | yeah |
| 02:46.34 | kremonte | someone doesn't know what a root kit is |
| 02:46.34 | pagefault | sure... |
| 02:46.39 | ScytheBlade1 | haha |
| 02:46.44 | pagefault | rootkit can do amazing things |
| 02:46.44 | ScytheBlade1 | That's almost funny |
| 02:46.47 | pagefault | like balance your checkbook |
| 02:46.51 | kremonte | lol |
| 02:46.54 | kremonte | ~rootkit |
| 02:46.55 | purl | it has been said that rootkit is a set of tools that replace the standard Unix utilities like ls and ps in order to hide certain files and processes from the admin. It is a good thing to have a copy of these tools on disk, but that only helps against the weaker rootkits (that don't modify the kernel in place). |
| 02:47.03 | Tain | There is a texture called, "WaterPoop02" |
| 02:47.06 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:47.09 | kremonte | lol |
| 02:47.13 | pagefault | thats awful |
| 02:47.17 | ScytheBlade1 | It's accurate |
| 02:47.26 | pagefault | is that like sludgefen water? |
| 02:49.17 | pagefault | this is awful |
| 02:49.28 | pagefault | I went into a nightelf town and just killed 3 of the hunters |
| 02:49.31 | pagefault | they gotta fix this |
| 02:49.54 | kremonte | jeez |
| 02:50.01 | kremonte | it would be more fun for me, but i'm on a pvp server |
| 02:50.08 | kremonte | what tree should i start out in as druid? =X |
| 02:50.17 | kremonte | natures grasp looks nice, but so does furor |
| 02:50.53 | pagefault | i've been interested in playing a rogue for a while |
| 02:50.55 | pagefault | looks good |
| 02:51.01 | pagefault | err |
| 02:51.03 | pagefault | druid |
| 02:51.04 | pagefault | not rogue |
| 02:51.19 | pagefault | when you play a warlock long enough everything is a rogue |
| 02:51.21 | kremonte | lol |
| 02:51.23 | kremonte | so true |
| 02:51.42 | kremonte | whenever someone says "yeah but i dont like [warlock, mage, priest]" i know they are a rogue |
| 02:51.48 | kremonte | or a warrior |
| 02:51.52 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:52.01 | kremonte | 60warlock 33warrior 19hunter and an 11 druid, hehe |
| 02:52.19 | Guillotine | 60 Druid, 39 Rogue, ~20 of everything else |
| 02:52.31 | pagefault | since deathcoil was fixed I can usually win against rogues |
| 02:52.40 | kremonte | i can sometimes win against rogues |
| 02:52.46 | kremonte | everyone and their mother has nightslayer now -.- |
| 02:52.49 | pagefault | with soul link I win 90% of the time |
| 02:52.52 | pagefault | unless they have some BWL gear |
| 02:53.02 | kremonte | cant stand soul link anymore, i love ruin too much =O |
| 02:53.07 | kremonte | 7/31/33 |
| 02:53.09 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:53.12 | kremonte | 7/21/23* |
| 02:53.12 | pagefault | yeah that was hard for me |
| 02:53.18 | pagefault | but I wanted the extra survivability :) |
| 02:53.23 | kremonte | just got my nemesis boots today ^^ |
| 02:53.43 | pagefault | master demonologist is a must though |
| 02:53.54 | kremonte | nah |
| 02:54.01 | kremonte | i cant live without demonic sac |
| 02:54.13 | pagefault | I usually only use that in AV |
| 02:54.16 | pagefault | or farming |
| 02:54.22 | kremonte | succubus sac is beautiful |
| 02:54.33 | pagefault | well it's almost the same with soul link |
| 02:54.34 | pagefault | 13% |
| 02:54.35 | pagefault | hehe |
| 02:54.39 | pagefault | on all, not just shadow |
| 02:54.40 | kremonte | yup, but then no ruin =/ |
| 02:54.49 | kremonte | i dont really use fire |
| 02:54.55 | kergoth | meh, i'm torn, i cant decide how to spec my rogue |
| 02:54.58 | pagefault | I like to spam searing pain |
| 02:55.19 | kremonte | lol, when i was 19/32/0 i did that, tanked DM runs very often |
| 02:55.21 | pagefault | with the pvp gear it's beautiful |
| 02:55.44 | pagefault | 50% to avoid interruption of searing pain cast |
| 02:55.54 | kremonte | im not into pvp enough to get that |
| 02:56.46 | pagefault | hehe oh well |
| 02:56.50 | pagefault | I ain't going to MC anytime tsoon |
| 02:56.53 | pagefault | so pvp is where I am going |
| 02:57.27 | kremonte | tbh, i dont like either much |
| 02:57.32 | kremonte | hate grinding, hate farming |
| 02:57.36 | Tain | If you're just starting with a rogue do combat, it'll be easier to level. |
| 02:57.38 | kremonte | but thats all there is to do now.. |
| 02:57.45 | Tain | You can always respec later. |
| 02:58.26 | Tain | The Minimap is interesting, it is masked out, the minimap itself is a little bigger than what you get to see. |
| 02:58.51 | kremonte | interesting |
| 03:00.02 | kremonte | ...lol |
| 03:00.17 | kremonte | level 10 warlock duels me in darkshore, fears me into ashenvale, a 60 hunter kills me |
| 03:00.43 | pagefault | damn |
| 03:00.45 | pagefault | I see my crts |
| 03:00.52 | pagefault | err crits and I just imagine it with ruin |
| 03:00.54 | pagefault | I gotta try it out sometime |
| 03:01.15 | kremonte | so fun in BWL |
| 03:01.19 | kremonte | i got a 9k crit^^ |
| 03:01.22 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 03:01.24 | pagefault | nerf |
| 03:01.48 | pagefault | I am so glad they didn't nerf ruin |
| 03:01.48 | kremonte | lol, think, 250% or something dmg +100% |
| 03:01.53 | kremonte | actually with the latest updates on test i am fine with the cos change |
| 03:01.54 | pagefault | would have made our class worthless |
| 03:02.00 | kremonte | no way o_o |
| 03:02.01 | pagefault | same |
| 03:02.08 | pagefault | well |
| 03:02.11 | kremonte | its more balanced |
| 03:02.13 | pagefault | I get even more damage now with the 10% bonus |
| 03:02.21 | pagefault | on mobs that had huge resistance before |
| 03:02.21 | kremonte | you always get an effect instead of sometimes no vuln bonus |
| 03:02.27 | kremonte | and no more +800 |
| 03:03.02 | Guillotine | ROFL kremonte! im getting 40g from someone for the original version of the spoofer. with just the added name on it |
| 03:03.26 | kremonte | omg |
| 03:03.35 | Guillotine | and did you spoof stuff on my server on Sulfuras? a bunch of spoofed links are traveling around that I didn't make... |
| 03:03.46 | kremonte | sulfuras? |
| 03:03.50 | kremonte | oh draenor |
| 03:03.53 | kremonte | havent been on |
| 03:03.58 | kremonte | since forever o_O |
| 03:07.35 | pagefault | I want my epic mount |
| 03:07.39 | pagefault | but I can't find a 5 man scholo group |
| 03:10.06 | kergoth | Tain: yea, i'm assassination/combat atm, leveling like a madman |
| 03:10.33 | kergoth | not sure what to do long term though |
| 03:13.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 03:13.34 | Tem | Iriel: http://wow.pastebin.com/459098 |
| 03:15.55 | Iriel | Can you just do self:Insert("") |
| 03:15.59 | Iriel | Instead of "\0" ? |
| 03:17.15 | Tem | maybe |
| 03:17.17 | Tem | I didn't try |
| 03:21.42 | *** join/#wowi-lounge RasmusKL (i=RasmusKL@wnpgmb09dc1-92-60.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 03:21.48 | Tem | anyway, it works |
| 03:23.18 | Guillotine | wow. im getting payed to dl addons for this guy and email them to him so he doesn't have to do the work himself of finding them... |
| 03:23.37 | Iriel | Taboo is saved!? |
| 03:26.57 | Tem | I'm just calling it "tab" |
| 03:27.10 | Tem | but yes, that little bit of code saves it |
| 03:29.00 | *** join/#wowi-lounge SP|Sorren (i=astrayca@adsl-63-205-196-201.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 03:29.15 | SP|Sorren | hello. |
| 03:32.55 | Guillotine | Cide: are you there? |
| 03:33.10 | Guillotine | got a question |
| 03:35.40 | Cide | ya |
| 04:01.14 | SP|Sorren | quick question: If i don't enablemouse a frame can i still show tooltips on mouseovers? |
| 04:02.16 | Iriel | Hm, I dont think it gets OnEnter events |
| 04:02.29 | Iriel | So you COULD, but you'd have to monitor for mouse entry actively |
| 04:02.58 | SP|Sorren | ahh, ic :/ |
| 04:03.28 | SP|Sorren | is there any way to tell if you're moving or not? |
| 04:04.49 | kergoth | jesus |
| 04:05.12 | kergoth | an l60 i've done runs with on my main escorts a guildie through SM cath. my alt comes along, and 2 pickups |
| 04:05.23 | kergoth | one of the pickups tries to PICKPOCKET mograine, before we've cleared the cathedral |
| 04:05.28 | kergoth | we all died for a couple silver. |
| 04:05.48 | Codayus | ...you...he... |
| 04:05.50 | Codayus | ...he... |
| 04:05.53 | Codayus | !!!!! |
| 04:06.05 | Codayus | Okay, that's funny. I'm sorry. But it is. :-) |
| 04:06.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 04:10.41 | Tem|MC | oh Cide are you here? |
| 04:11.02 | Tem|MC | I need to talk to you about your minimap buttons... |
| 04:11.06 | Tem|MC | They are too high |
| 04:11.16 | Tem|MC | (stratum wise) |
| 04:11.25 | Tem|MC | they poke through stuff all the time |
| 04:20.26 | Tem|MC | Wow Domo is fun |
| 04:23.56 | pagefault | kergoth, what is the name of that HUD you use |
| 04:31.27 | Tekkub | DayQuill: It doesn't really cure anything, just make you so happy you don't care that you're sick! |
| 04:36.23 | kremonte | hrm, i made a little function so when i have something non-friendly or no target, i autocast spells on myself, but i want to use it for all of my spells and there's not enough macro slots... any solution? >< |
| 04:36.53 | Iriel | Hook UseAction? |
| 04:37.34 | Codayus | A.) That's more-or-less what Telo's Selfcast does, right? |
| 04:37.44 | Codayus | B.) He hooked UseAction, as Iriel said. |
| 04:37.58 | *** join/#wowi-lounge norganna (n=chatzill@CPE-60-231-93-153.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 04:38.08 | Cair|afk | norganna! |
| 04:38.10 | Cair|afk | YAY! |
| 04:38.12 | norganna | :) |
| 04:38.20 | Cair|afk | bout freaking time |
| 04:38.27 | norganna | You're not AFK! :) |
| 04:38.33 | Cair|afk | nope, just got back |
| 04:38.37 | Codayus | Yay, norganna! |
| 04:39.02 | kremonte | oh, it does! |
| 04:39.42 | norganna | apparently i need to create a char on draka also |
| 04:40.07 | kremonte | hm. selfcast hasnt been updated in forever |
| 04:40.08 | Cair | if you want to :) |
| 04:40.31 | Codayus | kremonte: Not much to add to it I guess. |
| 04:40.38 | kremonte | omg teh toc number |
| 04:40.50 | Cair | actually, I'm afk again for a few, need a shower |
| 04:41.04 | kremonte | yeah, you did smell a tad :O |
| 04:41.10 | Cair|shower | fu kremonte |
| 04:41.18 | kremonte | oh wait, it's just being in the barrens |
| 04:41.21 | kremonte | <3 |
| 04:44.48 | Beladona | hi |
| 04:46.13 | norganna | Hmmm |
| 04:46.33 | norganna | So, who do I talk to about getting in the UI Author's guild? |
| 04:46.50 | Beladona | which side? |
| 04:46.51 | kergoth | pagefault: look in svn. kergoth.com/websvn iirc |
| 04:46.54 | Beladona | Alliance or Horde |
| 04:46.58 | Beladona | or both |
| 04:47.01 | norganna | Horde |
| 04:47.05 | norganna | argh |
| 04:47.19 | Beladona | I will log on now, send a tell to Anodaleb |
| 04:47.20 | norganna | i didn't realize there was sides |
| 04:48.10 | Beladona | ? |
| 04:48.18 | Cair|shower | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=278268 |
| 04:48.32 | kremonte | anyone remember that guild name that owned the guy who planned on getting his loot and running? |
| 04:48.55 | Cair|shower | and now I *really* need that shower, to help calm me down, too. |
| 04:48.57 | Cair|shower | afk |
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| 04:51.56 | Codayus | Hey, random question for people on Draka - is anyone able to post on the forums with their Draka char? |
| 04:52.50 | Beladona | mine isn't showing up as a choice |
| 04:52.55 | Beladona | not Draka anyway |
| 04:53.03 | Codayus | Same. |
| 04:53.18 | Codayus | Pity. :-) |
| 04:54.18 | kremonte | argh, wth is that guilds name >< |
| 04:54.39 | Guillotine | which guilds? |
| 04:55.37 | kremonte | the one that owned that warlock in MC who tried to get loot then leave the guild |
| 04:55.49 | kremonte | like "cmon you arent supposed to loot that just because youre my brother" |
| 05:04.31 | Osagasu | O.o |
| 05:05.23 | AnduinLothar | ur ircign from teh shower.. while naked O.o |
| 05:05.36 | AnduinLothar | ah, that was 115 min ago |
| 05:05.41 | AnduinLothar | 15/ |
| 05:05.43 | AnduinLothar | grr |
| 05:14.09 | pagefault | kergoth, how do I stop buffbot from using a buff of mine |
| 05:14.28 | Osagasu | Loooobsteeer? |
| 05:15.24 | kergoth | pagefault: at the bottom of /bb help should be a list of abilities it can do |
| 05:15.31 | Cair|lobster | yeah, lobster ... by the time I got the shower hot enough to help ease my breathing and dispel my chills, I'm now rather red |
| 05:15.36 | kergoth | pagefault: before each is a letter identifying it |
| 05:15.38 | pagefault | yeah I am trying to tell it to not use soul link which seems to be l |
| 05:15.39 | Beladona | Cair feels like a lobster after her hot shower? |
| 05:15.44 | Beladona | or is eating lobster? |
| 05:15.49 | kergoth | pagefault: if you wanted 'f' and 'w' to be cast, you do /bb warlock=fw |
| 05:15.52 | Osagasu | pfft |
| 05:16.21 | pagefault | ah fixed |
| 05:16.22 | pagefault | thx |
| 05:17.10 | kergoth | np |
| 05:17.20 | kergoth | its weird syntax |
| 05:17.21 | kergoth | but it works |
| 05:19.22 | norganna | Beladona: Inv plz :) |
| 05:19.30 | Beladona | k |
| 05:20.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Which slot is the upper trinket? 0 or 1? I've tried both, but I just can't get it to fire off |
| 05:20.55 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.57 | Osagasu | Must be the mom gene |
| 05:21.01 | Beladona | people aren't respecting each other? |
| 05:21.12 | Cair | still fuming about that post is all |
| 05:21.14 | Beladona | point me at em, I have a dead trout handy |
| 05:21.18 | Guillotine | that guy was so rude... |
| 05:21.19 | Beladona | oh |
| 05:21.23 | kergoth | i'm far too much of a realist to actually expect pepople to respect each other |
| 05:21.28 | Codayus | Rude *and* stupid. |
| 05:21.36 | Codayus | Two great tastes that taste great together! |
| 05:21.45 | Cair | I went back and edited my post to add a bit |
| 05:21.46 | Cair | :p |
| 05:22.04 | Codayus | I was going to post, but I decided telling him what I really thought of him probably wasn't called for... |
| 05:22.13 | Codayus | ...their are children who read the forums, after all. |
| 05:22.16 | Cair | I think I covered it fairly well ;) |
| 05:22.36 | kergoth | Cair: sorry to say, but you're probably gonna end up getting used to it. that sort of thing is incredibly common in the free software community, open source has been dealing with it as long as its existed |
| 05:22.37 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:22.50 | kergoth | people coming in making demands despite it being entirely volunteer work |
| 05:22.56 | Cair | kergoth, I already am, I've been dealing with this community for 5 years now |
| 05:23.05 | kergoth | :( |
| 05:23.06 | Guillotine | hehe. check out my post there |
| 05:23.09 | Codayus | I would have focused more on his apparent intelligence and probably ancenstry, vis a vis his failure to understand the purpose of updating a mod... |
| 05:23.10 | Cair | and I slap people down for it when they deserve to be slapped down |
| 05:23.13 | Beladona | nono |
| 05:23.14 | kergoth | good good |
| 05:23.17 | Beladona | you NEVER get used to it |
| 05:23.22 | Beladona | you just choose to ignore it |
| 05:23.23 | Guillotine | I like being able to post what I think without being restricted by having to put on a good face for a site |
| 05:23.39 | Beladona | "yeah, I read your email" |
| 05:23.42 | Beladona | =P |
| 05:23.47 | Codayus | His rudeness, to my mind, was overshadowed by the depth and breadth of his stupidity. |
| 05:23.47 | kergoth | i'm used to it, i expect it, but that doesnt make it any less frustrating |
| 05:24.12 | Tain | Ok, made my own custom Minimap. I cleared away the rest of my UI so I could work on placing everything. |
| 05:24.14 | Tain | http://www.crushingdreams.com/images/CustomMinimap.png |
| 05:24.32 | Codayus | Hmmm. |
| 05:24.36 | Cair | nifty Tain |
| 05:24.37 | Beladona | not bad |
| 05:24.39 | Codayus | That's actually very nice. |
| 05:24.44 | Beladona | howd you manage it? |
| 05:24.45 | Cair | yeah, I like |
| 05:24.46 | Osagasu | pretty cool |
| 05:24.56 | Tain | I ripped off someone else's idea, of course. |
| 05:24.58 | kergoth | neat |
| 05:24.58 | Beladona | I can see that at the top, overtop of a titan bar |
| 05:25.02 | Tain | But I like mine better. |
| 05:25.03 | Beladona | in the middle |
| 05:25.17 | Cair | now do me a favour and actually release it on WoWI instead of just at the ace forums :p |
| 05:25.26 | Beladona | ~trout |
| 05:25.29 | purl | ACTION slaps Gryphon around a bit with a large trout! |
| 05:25.29 | Tain | Replace a couple of the Minimap files in the Data\ forum. |
| 05:25.30 | Beladona | doh |
| 05:25.42 | Beladona | ~trout Tain |
| 05:25.43 | purl | ACTION slaps Tain around a bit with a large trout! |
| 05:25.45 | Codayus | I could see something very much like that fitting into my current UI. |
| 05:25.46 | Tain | Now now, Visor isn't ready for full public consumption. |
| 05:25.49 | kergoth | ~herring cair |
| 05:25.50 | purl | ACTION whacks cair on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred |
| 05:25.58 | Cair | ~lart kergoth |
| 05:25.58 | Tain | I'll put anything else I do on WoWI though. |
| 05:26.02 | kergoth | ~whaleblock kergoth |
| 05:26.03 | purl | ACTION shields kergoth with a freakishly huger whale named ollywag |
| 05:26.11 | Tain | Can't speak for the rest of those Ace freaks though. |
| 05:26.31 | Beladona | its like a cult |
| 05:26.32 | Tain | And... release it? I just did it for myself. ;) |
| 05:26.34 | Guillotine | tain, you ARE posting that somewhere though? I'd like to see how you did it |
| 05:26.37 | kergoth | hehe, i like that lart. totally a freenode joke |
| 05:26.49 | Cair | yeah, very cool one kergoth ;) |
| 05:26.50 | Codayus | Are you just masking the parts of the map that don't fit the shape? Or...yeah, what Guillotine said. |
| 05:26.56 | Cair | god we're such geeks :p |
| 05:27.08 | Guillotine | I've been interested in making a square minimap for a while now... |
| 05:27.08 | kergoth | yep :) |
| 05:27.10 | Tain | It's two things, the normal Minimap has a mask already which makes it a circle shape. |
| 05:27.20 | Codayus | What shape is it "raw"? |
| 05:27.21 | Tain | You could actually just remove the mask entirely and you'd have a full square. |
| 05:27.21 | norganna | who can invite me into LoadOnDemand? |
| 05:27.23 | Guillotine | right. but how did you add that part to the top? |
| 05:27.26 | Guillotine | ohhh |
| 05:27.28 | Guillotine | really? |
| 05:27.31 | Codayus | It's a square? |
| 05:27.32 | Tain | But then you have to change the Minimap frame. |
| 05:27.37 | Tain | Yes, the Minimap is a square. |
| 05:27.40 | Guillotine | I'd still like to see your code if possible though |
| 05:27.49 | Tain | It's two graphic files. That's it. |
| 05:27.50 | Codayus | Hmm. I obviously suck at life. I poked at it, and decided it was a circle. :-) |
| 05:27.52 | Tain | I'll upload them though. |
| 05:27.58 | Codayus | Yay! |
| 05:27.58 | Beladona | Cair, could you grab norganna on Alliance side? |
| 05:28.09 | Beladona | trying to finish my addon so I can upload it |
| 05:28.39 | Cair | will do |
| 05:28.41 | Osagasu | wow, its Norganna |
| 05:28.53 | Beladona | thanks hon |
| 05:29.01 | norganna | yeah, i decided to be social for a change :) |
| 05:29.02 | Cair | norganna, logging in to alliance side, send tell to Cairenn |
| 05:29.38 | norganna | actually legorol threatend me with gbh if i didn't |
| 05:29.39 | kergoth | damn, there's a lot of people in here now |
| 05:29.44 | Cair | norganna, I'm in |
| 05:29.56 | Guillotine | kergoth: much less than usual |
| 05:30.01 | Tain | http://www.crushingdreams.com/WOW/Tain_Minimap.zip |
| 05:30.14 | kergoth | Guillotine: yeah, i just havent actually looked at the user list in a long time :) not been paying attention |
| 05:30.17 | Tain | Those just have to go into the World of Warcraft\Data folder |
| 05:30.26 | Tain | Instead of Interface |
| 05:30.32 | Guillotine | kk |
| 05:30.55 | Tain | But! If you have the custom WoW interface files installed, the ones that unpack all of the WoW files into your Interface folder, it won't work. |
| 05:31.10 | Cair | oh damn tain |
| 05:31.18 | Cair | this is gonna bugger up Tom's, isn't it? |
| 05:31.31 | Tain | Oh yeah. |
| 05:31.50 | Cair | damnit :( |
| 05:32.02 | Osagasu | does the minimap automatically know where the mask is and adjust the arrows? |
| 05:32.18 | Tain | Which arrows? The zoom arrows? |
| 05:32.55 | Tain | Unless you want to edit Tom's minimap frame to a new shape, Cair. :) |
| 05:32.57 | kergoth | i dont remember the last time i actually had those unhidden. /me hugs scroll wheel zooming |
| 05:33.03 | Tain | Yeah me too, kergoth. |
| 05:33.10 | Tain | I have nothing around my Minimap. |
| 05:33.19 | Osagasu | no |
| 05:33.23 | Osagasu | the direction arroes |
| 05:33.27 | Osagasu | *arrows |
| 05:33.40 | Cair | so are folks actually playing on either side atm? |
| 05:33.48 | Beladona | yes and no |
| 05:33.50 | Beladona | =P |
| 05:34.03 | Tain | It really doesn't have to know anything. The Minimap itself is always a square, you only see what's unmasked. |
| 05:34.04 | Beladona | I am online on Horde, but I am kind of alt tabbing frequently |
| 05:34.04 | Cair | horde side, I'm gathering, since I didn't see anyone on Alliance |
| 05:34.12 | Beladona | and there are others |
| 05:39.00 | Tain | Horde, Alliance, all this back and forth I think my highest level character is 6 so far. |
| 05:39.15 | Beladona | get Kracken captain Nemo! |
| 05:39.19 | Tain | Well, besides the fact that I haven't played much. |
| 05:39.29 | Tain | ButI'm so busy moddificating. |
| 05:40.05 | Cair | lemme see, I've got 14 & 11 on Horde, 11 on Alliance, 10 on Alliance that I deleted |
| 05:40.16 | Cair | c |
| 05:40.18 | Tain | hehe I'm such a slacker. |
| 05:40.33 | Cair | naw, I just have no life :p |
| 05:41.08 | Tain | Well, I did also teach myself a bunch about WoW's xml, and built the first vesion of the VisorGUI. |
| 05:41.18 | Cair | cool |
| 05:41.59 | Tain | And my head still hurts. :( |
| 05:42.11 | Cair | from trying to learn XML? |
| 05:43.02 | kremonte | i like xml more than lua tbh |
| 05:43.05 | kremonte | i think i'm the only one |
| 05:43.06 | SP|Sorren | hey, if i have a table that has an entry of table["blue"] = green, how would i delete the blue entry? |
| 05:43.17 | Cair | kremonte: nope ... same here |
| 05:43.17 | SP|Sorren | would table.remove( table, "blue" ) work? |
| 05:43.20 | kremonte | its bigger, longer to make, and more irritating to get things right.. but it's not complicated! |
| 05:43.41 | Iriel | SP|Sorren : table["blue"] = nil; |
| 05:43.48 | Tain | I've had a bad headache all day. I took two vicodin today and that didn't even help. |
| 05:43.51 | Iriel | SP|Sorren : Remove doesn't work for non-integer keys |
| 05:44.05 | SP|Sorren | ah, okay |
| 05:44.18 | Tain | I definitely like Lua better, but I understand the XML files better now. |
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| 05:45.05 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 05:45.16 | Cair | hey Kael |
| 05:45.20 | Kaelten | ello |
| 05:46.24 | Tain | Kael! Bask in the glory of my Minimap! |
| 05:46.25 | Tain | http://www.crushingdreams.com/images/CustomMinimap.png |
| 05:46.33 | SP|Sorren | if I call table.remove does it shift everything down? |
| 05:46.50 | Cair | I SO like that Tain, but not *quite* enough to replace Tom's |
| 05:46.54 | Kaelten | spiffy tain |
| 05:46.57 | Iriel | SP|Sorren : Yes, if you've been using table.insert/table.remove |
| 05:47.10 | SP|Sorren | cool, thx |
| 05:47.45 | kremonte | Cair, which one of tom's |
| 05:47.48 | kremonte | i can modify it ;) |
| 05:47.58 | kremonte | all it is is a shape modification |
| 05:48.39 | Cair | I'll probably get around to it at some point |
| 05:48.53 | kremonte | lol, i'll do it right now if you'd like |
| 05:50.13 | Cair | kremonte: it isn't that easy |
| 05:50.21 | Tain | Actually I do need to redo the Minimap frame graphic, it isn't really that smooth. |
| 05:50.24 | kremonte | is not? how so? |
| 05:50.56 | Cair | when I say "Tom's", I am talking about Tom King's |
| 05:51.03 | kremonte | je sais ^^; |
| 05:51.11 | kremonte | i'm using his NE-based theme right now |
| 05:51.43 | Cair | that's the one I'm using too |
| 05:52.41 | Beladona | you accept an agreement when you download that, so it isn't a matter of editing it. Which I believe Cair was getting at |
| 05:53.05 | Tain | I know I was more thinking about the difficulty in editing and making it look good. :) |
| 05:53.14 | Cair | both |
| 05:53.17 | Beladona | although Tom might be interested to see what you did |
| 05:53.24 | Beladona | hint hint |
| 05:53.31 | Cair | tom is likely to be very interested ;) |
| 05:53.46 | kremonte | so sho'i not do it? |
| 05:54.01 | Beladona | you can do it, but you can't release it |
| 05:54.03 | Cair | if you do, kremonte, don't release it |
| 05:54.05 | Cair | to *anyone* |
| 05:54.08 | kremonte | oh, i know that of course |
| 05:54.26 | kremonte | i never really make anything for release, i hate dealing with people either way |
| 05:55.18 | Cair | I should be telling you that you shouldn't be editing it *at all*, but I'm enough of a realist ... |
| 05:55.38 | kremonte | things are made to be modified, hey, TKing modified the bliz UI ;p |
| 05:55.38 | Cair | just don't pass it around |
| 05:55.51 | Tain | Well, I'd say it could just fall under "fair use" but I'm not that knowledgeable of copyright laws. |
| 05:56.24 | GenNMX | Was it ActionButton_GetPagedID( button ) ? |
| 06:00.26 | GenNMX | Ah, was using a string |
| 06:01.58 | Cair | hey Kaelten |
| 06:02.58 | Cair | ~poke Kaelten |
| 06:03.00 | purl | but then who will poke the pokers, cair? MentalPower|PC? |
| 06:03.28 | Tain | Who will poke the pokers indeed. |
| 06:04.44 | kergoth | lkgajslkghrstlashdogajxc |
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| 06:05.29 | Guillotine | haha |
| 06:05.33 | kremonte | World server is down :( |
| 06:06.02 | kergoth | our net has been down for about an hour a day, every day, for weeks. and for months, its been down at least once a week |
| 06:06.36 | kergoth | they've replaced the modem, had numerous techs come out and test the lines, etc |
| 06:06.37 | kergoth | and every time i call, we go through this "have you rebooted the modem?" crap |
| 06:06.37 | kergoth | cant these fuckwits read the call history before wasting my time? |
| 06:06.50 | kergoth | </rant> |
| 06:07.01 | Tain | Nope. |
| 06:07.04 | Codayus | kergoth: Of course not. |
| 06:07.10 | Codayus | Why would you think they could? |
| 06:07.15 | kergoth | thanks |
| 06:07.26 | Codayus | :-) |
| 06:07.49 | kergoth | clearly i've made the mistake of assuming that tech support has clue |
| 06:07.54 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 06:07.58 | Codayus | That sounds likely. |
| 06:08.00 | kergoth | ~bad kergoth |
| 06:08.01 | purl | Bad kergoth, bad! No cookie for you! |
| 06:08.23 | Cair | ~mock kergoth |
| 06:08.24 | purl | ACTION pulls kergoth's pants down and shows the world kergoth's pink spotted underwear |
| 06:08.25 | kergoth | there, the net just dropped again for about a minute |
| 06:08.31 | Cair | hahahahhaa |
| 06:08.32 | Anduin|MC | O.o |
| 06:08.33 | kergoth | now its back |
| 06:08.44 | Cair | wasn't sure that mock was actually in there! |
| 06:08.45 | Cair | lol |
| 06:08.48 | kergoth | lol |
| 06:08.51 | kergoth | ~praise purl |
| 06:08.53 | purl | All hail purl! |
| 06:09.03 | Anduin|MC | ~botsnack |
| 06:09.03 | purl | :), Anduin|MC |
| 06:10.03 | Osagasu | purl, stab yourself |
| 06:10.04 | purl | ACTION runs at yourself with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 06:10.14 | Kaelten|AFK | off to play guys |
| 06:10.25 | clad|bed | ~lick Cair |
| 06:10.27 | purl | ACTION licks Cair *SHLUUURRRRPPP* |
| 06:10.47 | Cair | later Kael |
| 06:11.14 | Anduin|MC | moo |
| 06:11.19 | Cair | *purr* |
| 06:11.41 | clad|bed | ~emulate Cair |
| 06:11.43 | purl | ACTION *purrs* |
| 06:11.50 | clad|bed | night all |
| 06:11.55 | Cair | sweet dreams clad|bed |
| 06:12.01 | Guillotine | bye clad |
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| 06:14.23 | Cair | ~tabard |
| 06:14.24 | purl | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2563 - vote for your tabard! |
| 06:14.39 | Tem|MC | Can someone help me figure out this regex? |
| 06:14.43 | Cair | (just a random reminder) |
| 06:14.52 | Tem|MC | I have a position in a string |
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| 06:14.57 | Beladona | sure we can try |
| 06:15.08 | Tem|MC | and I need to pull the "word" that string is in |
| 06:15.36 | Guillotine | Tekkub, you there? |
| 06:15.54 | Tem|MC | I was previously assuming that the position I had was at the end of the word, but that's not cutting it |
| 06:16.42 | Beladona | let me get this straight |
| 06:16.45 | Beladona | you ave a string |
| 06:16.47 | Beladona | like banana |
| 06:16.57 | Beladona | but you want the whole word |
| 06:17.03 | Beladona | like bananasplit |
| 06:17.10 | Beladona | ? |
| 06:17.43 | Tem|MC | I have a string like "The brown fox jumps..." |
| 06:17.54 | Tem|MC | and a position in that string |
| 06:18.01 | Tem|MC | like 6 |
| 06:18.24 | Beladona | ahh |
| 06:18.28 | Tem|MC | I need to grab the word "brown" |
| 06:18.42 | Beladona | my memory is rusty, but I have used what you are talking about before |
| 06:18.46 | Beladona | one sec |
| 06:19.10 | Tem|MC | I'm afraid what I need is the bit that lua's regex is missing |
| 06:19.30 | Beladona | you have that whole phrase in a string right? |
| 06:19.45 | Beladona | as a variable I mean |
| 06:20.10 | Iriel | Tem|MC | I think you need to substring on both sides of the point |
| 06:20.15 | Beladona | first thing you need to do |
| 06:20.17 | Iriel | Tem|MC | And use a pair of re's - one on each one |
| 06:20.21 | Beladona | is to get the letter at position 6 |
| 06:20.29 | Beladona | that too |
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| 06:21.59 | Beladona | I was thinking you could use word boundaries in your regex, but that might return both brown and fox |
| 06:22.10 | Beladona | unless you got more than the o |
| 06:25.06 | Tem|MC | Iriel: I that's what I was thinking, I was just hoping I wouldn't need to>< |
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| 06:41.52 | norganna | why would you regex at all? |
| 06:42.37 | kergoth | it takes me 3 seconds to cast an instant cast spell just now |
| 06:47.36 | futrtrubl | damn, forgot Enginventory wouldn't do the bank as well. Anyone know a good bank addon? |
| 06:49.53 | kergoth | i'm using EI with mybags (with the myinventory component removed) |
| 06:50.00 | kergoth | works pretty well |
| 06:50.11 | futrtrubl | cool, good idea |
| 06:50.20 | kergoth | though the bank version of onebag would probably work too, but i like to be able to view the bank contents away from teh bank |
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| 06:52.48 | Anduin|MC | still using bankstaement here |
| 06:56.09 | pagefault | damn |
| 06:56.14 | pagefault | I saw a really nice wand |
| 06:56.27 | pagefault | it was like 72 dps |
| 07:02.05 | Guillotine | g2g guys |
| 07:02.06 | Guillotine | ttyl |
| 07:02.50 | norganna | nite |
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| 07:04.53 | Tem|MC | the generic for iterates until the iterator returns nil? |
| 07:06.00 | futrtrubl | yes |
| 07:11.42 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 07:12.15 | Codayus | Anyone tried MDX? Great drink, I think. |
| 07:12.45 | Beladona | its not bad |
| 07:12.58 | Codayus | Wish it was easier to find around here. |
| 07:13.20 | Beladona | there is one I prefer though, that has all the energy drink stuff, plus alcohol |
| 07:13.32 | Beladona | and the taste alone will knock you awake |
| 07:15.17 | Codayus | Not all that interested in alcoholic beverages. |
| 07:16.03 | Codayus | I just want a case of MDX. Or two. |
| 07:18.30 | Anduin|MC | whee: /z TargetUnit(CT_RA_EmergencyFrame1ClickFrame.unitid);CastSpellByName("Flash of Light(Rank 6)"); |
| 07:19.43 | Anduin|MC | macro = FlashSpam |
| 07:22.37 | Codayus | Hmm, interesting. |
| 07:22.51 | Iriel | Hm.. how can I track whether a slider has the mouse |
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| 07:24.49 | Tem|MC | wow I hate domo |
| 07:24.51 | Tem|MC | this si gay |
| 07:25.03 | Anduin|MC | lol, this newb grp cant even down luci |
| 07:25.26 | Tem|MC | Anduin|MC: why the hell are you in MC with a pickup? |
| 07:25.39 | Anduin|MC | it's not pickup. it's 2 small guilds |
| 07:25.49 | Tem|MC | close enough |
| 07:25.54 | Anduin|MC | only slightly better |
| 07:25.58 | Tem|MC | guild alliances don't work IMO |
| 07:26.09 | Anduin|MC | because i cant get in a good guild cause no one will take me |
| 07:26.52 | Anduin|MC | all the good guilds on my server are farming bwl and require mc loot |
| 07:27.09 | Codayus | I've seen alliances do well...but the organizing is a lot harder, I think. |
| 07:27.27 | Anduin|MC | it's not the organization. it's that both guilds and newb |
| 07:27.36 | Anduin|MC | items and peeps both suck |
| 07:28.20 | Tain | It's just so much easier with one guild. I'd never want to to any joint raids again. |
| 07:28.56 | Tain | Not because I don't like other guilds, but because you're used to fighting with your guildmates. You know who's going to do their job. |
| 07:29.09 | Tain | You know who you need to keep an extra eye out for because they slack off. |
| 07:29.14 | Codayus | Tain: Not always an option. And when it does work, I think it's helped if one of the two is much larger than the other. |
| 07:29.28 | Tain | For me it's the only option though. I just won't do it. |
| 07:29.40 | Anduin|MC | i dont have the option of one guild |
| 07:29.43 | Codayus | An MC raid with 30 from guild A and 10 from guild B is a *lot* more likely to work than an even split. |
| 07:30.07 | Tain | Yeah it is. |
| 07:30.09 | Anduin|MC | ya, it's about even |
| 07:30.41 | Codayus | I was running MC raid last night with was 35 of one, 5 of the other. I was in the 5 faction, and given our size, unless we disband or merge, we ally or we don't run MC. <shrug> |
| 07:30.44 | Tain | But that's the thing, just me personally, if I wanted to do MC or anything else I would just quit if I couldn't do it with a single guild of people I (mostly) liked. |
| 07:31.37 | Anduin|MC | i was in a guild that ran mc but it disbanded after summer. now i applied to 3 guilds and all turned me dont |
| 07:31.40 | Anduin|MC | down |
| 07:31.57 | Anduin|MC | i was invited to this one, but i'm basicly the best or 2nd most experienced player |
| 07:32.20 | Anduin|MC | onyl one who's downed 4 ZG bosses and 4 MC bosses |
| 07:32.27 | Tain | Then again I'm just soured against big raids anyway. Burned out on doing it constantly, it's so tedios doing the same things over and over agian. |
| 07:32.46 | Tain | And I don't get as excited about the loot at other people seem to. |
| 07:33.45 | Tain | It's just the dangling carrot to keep people going. |
| 07:33.45 | Anduin|MC | i go in burnsts |
| 07:33.46 | Codayus | I get a bit excited at the thought of epics. :-) |
| 07:33.46 | Anduin|MC | i've been playing for 20 hours minus 4 hrs sleep |
| 07:34.00 | Tain | hah never again will I do that |
| 07:34.10 | Anduin|MC | not all in mc |
| 07:34.12 | Tain | I'll game for 20 hours straight. But different games. :) |
| 07:34.21 | Anduin|MC | just 4 hrs in mc so far |
| 07:34.35 | Codayus | It really depends who you're playing with, I think. Over the summer tried a big 4-5 guild alliance. It was poorly run, and full of fools, idiots, and jerks. After a week of tries and a dozen wipes, we got Luci, and I said screw it and started lvling an alt. |
| 07:34.36 | Anduin|MC | i did all of strat last night |
| 07:34.47 | Anduin|MC | then grinded from neutral to honored thorium |
| 07:35.11 | Anduin|MC | then ran dm west |
| 07:35.13 | Anduin|MC | slept |
| 07:35.15 | Codayus | Current alliance is small, full of competent people with a similar outlook towards the game, and it's actually enjoyable. <shrug> |
| 07:35.22 | Anduin|MC | mc |
| 07:35.41 | Anduin|MC | i like these people, they just aren't great.. |
| 07:35.45 | Codayus | Also helps that we're actually killing bosses. Getting epics is much better than a repair bill. :-) |
| 07:35.58 | Tain | Yeah I've played with the same people mostly since EverQuest. |
| 07:36.09 | Anduin|MC | but i've been auctioneering so i'm sorta making money |
| 07:37.54 | pagefault | wow |
| 07:38.04 | pagefault | the shard bag isn't going to suck after all maybe |
| 07:39.05 | Codayus | pagefault: Did they get around to adding an effect to it? |
| 07:39.12 | pagefault | I don't know |
| 07:39.14 | Codayus | Oh? |
| 07:39.16 | pagefault | I just read there is some "bonus" |
| 07:39.25 | pagefault | but I think they are just making it up as they go along to stay happy with people |
| 07:39.34 | Codayus | Ah, right. But they don't seem to have decided what yet, and it isn't on the PTR last I checked. |
| 07:39.46 | pagefault | how about a free shard ever hour |
| 07:39.47 | Codayus | But it should be getting one before it goes live. It needs one, I think... |
| 07:40.21 | pagefault | they could fix the entire problem by just letting us drain shards off anything |
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| 07:40.42 | Codayus | Sure. Or maybe a small stamina bonus - that'd be pretty nice |
| 07:40.51 | pagefault | I don't see how that would be overpowered |
| 07:40.55 | pagefault | you still have to go obtain them |
| 07:41.17 | Codayus | Hunters get a +ranged attack speed bonus from quivers. Maybe a 0.1s reduction in shadowbolt cast time? :-P |
| 07:41.28 | pagefault | haha I wish |
| 07:42.24 | pagefault | or some siphon soul spell |
| 07:42.27 | pagefault | so you get a guaranteed drain |
| 07:42.33 | pagefault | channelling spells suck |
| 07:42.37 | Codayus | A variation of the effect of http://thottbot.com/?i=52072 wouldn't be bad. |
| 07:43.36 | pagefault | yeah |
| 07:43.38 | kremonte | i still like my idea |
| 07:43.39 | pagefault | thats crap though |
| 07:43.41 | pagefault | VW? why VW |
| 07:43.46 | pagefault | I want a succy at least |
| 07:43.46 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 07:43.47 | kremonte | conjuring shards 8) |
| 07:44.00 | kremonte | like, 1min cooldown, uses half your HP and mana, 15 second cast |
| 07:44.03 | kremonte | and they go away after 15mins |
| 07:44.13 | pagefault | yeah |
| 07:44.16 | pagefault | like make water |
| 07:44.19 | kremonte | so i can conjure a shard for a pet if i want to duel without sucking |
| 07:44.20 | pagefault | but for shards |
| 07:44.21 | Codayus | That's why I said a variation. Maybe activate core leather shard bag, and next pet summoned doesn't consume a shard. |
| 07:44.42 | kremonte | soulfire, shadowburn, summoning, /yawn |
| 07:44.45 | pagefault | or give us shards back for stupid stuff |
| 07:44.51 | pagefault | like pet wandering off and being unsummonned |
| 07:44.58 | kremonte | the fact of the matter is, it's not about USING shards |
| 07:45.06 | kremonte | it's about obtaining them when you're not in friggin MC |
| 07:45.06 | Codayus | kremonte's idea isn't bad either though. <shrug> |
| 07:45.07 | pagefault | it's about obtaining them |
| 07:45.29 | kremonte | i wanna be like a mage, where i can duel in arathi for an hour while i wait for hte q |
| 07:45.47 | pagefault | it sucks having to like think |
| 07:45.51 | pagefault | oh wait should I use the shard |
| 07:45.52 | pagefault | or wait |
| 07:45.52 | pagefault | or what |
| 07:46.00 | kremonte | and if town raids ever come back,cant get shards off pvp mobs |
| 07:46.02 | Beladona | . |
| 07:46.24 | kremonte | , |
| 07:46.25 | pagefault | they had an idea that warlocks could get souls from gy's |
| 07:46.31 | pagefault | dunno what happened to that though |
| 07:46.33 | Tem|MC | god damnit! I hate domo |
| 07:46.38 | kremonte | but how would that work? |
| 07:46.40 | Beladona | lol, sorry, was cleaning something off my keyboard |
| 07:46.46 | kremonte | like fountains in WC3? |
| 07:46.50 | pagefault | well there would be souls around gy's and you somehow captured them |
| 07:46.52 | kremonte | you stand by it, and get a shard every 1 min |
| 07:47.06 | pagefault | still doesn't really address the farming issue |
| 07:47.20 | kremonte | blizzard said its like so we dont hoard them |
| 07:47.26 | pagefault | hahaha |
| 07:47.29 | kremonte | so we either have 5, or we...hoard them |
| 07:47.37 | pagefault | yeah well you shouldn't need them to be functional |
| 07:47.40 | pagefault | they should be optional |
| 07:47.50 | kremonte | like for shadowburn / soulfire |
| 07:47.55 | pagefault | yeah |
| 07:47.58 | pagefault | or health stones |
| 07:48.00 | pagefault | demons should be free |
| 07:48.02 | kremonte | well |
| 07:48.15 | kremonte | today for vael i made 23 healthstones |
| 07:48.15 | Codayus | Removing the shard cost for summoning and the void/suc/felhunter wouldn't be bad... |
| 07:48.24 | Codayus | Oh, and healthstones. |
| 07:48.27 | kremonte | oh, that was 23 in one attempt |
| 07:48.32 | pagefault | I don't even care if they put like a 2 min cooldown on my next summon |
| 07:48.33 | kremonte | + soulstone |
| 07:48.35 | pagefault | if it means I don't need a shard |
| 07:48.36 | pagefault | thats fine |
| 07:48.43 | kremonte | well that depends pagefault |
| 07:48.44 | Codayus | Then make the infernal actually useful, and make it cost, I dunno, 10 shards or something. :-) |
| 07:48.54 | kremonte | i summoned 4 people to MC today |
| 07:48.58 | kremonte | cooldown owuld have sucked lol |
| 07:49.02 | pagefault | I mean on demons |
| 07:49.08 | kremonte | oh |
| 07:49.15 | kremonte | feldom resets the cooldown? :b |
| 07:49.22 | pagefault | yeah I would assume |
| 07:49.26 | pagefault | it rocks to sac a VW |
| 07:49.29 | pagefault | then whip out the succubus |
| 07:49.41 | kremonte | i dont use that much |
| 07:49.48 | kremonte | tbh all i see myself using feldom for |
| 07:49.53 | pagefault | i've won many duels with fel dom |
| 07:49.54 | pagefault | they kill my pet |
| 07:49.54 | kremonte | is saccing imp, fel dom, imp, sac |
| 07:49.59 | pagefault | and a new one comes out of no where |
| 07:50.01 | pagefault | and they are like ??? |
| 07:50.07 | kremonte | yeah but thats another shard,heh |
| 07:50.10 | Codayus | I saw a 'lock using sacing a VW and AoEing the trash in DM North... |
| 07:50.16 | Codayus | ...worked really really amazingly well. |
| 07:50.25 | kremonte | unnecessary..lol |
| 07:50.32 | kremonte | warrior charge in and aoe taunt |
| 07:50.32 | Codayus | Oh yeah. |
| 07:50.34 | Codayus | But it was cool! |
| 07:50.50 | kremonte | i was aoeing at broodlord today, was the best |
| 07:50.51 | pagefault | make the endgame pets usable too |
| 07:50.54 | Codayus | I was on my priest, just got to stand around and watch him. :-) |
| 07:50.58 | kremonte | aoe hitting 50+ mobs at once |
| 07:50.59 | pagefault | I am not going to summon something that is going to attack my party |
| 07:51.05 | kremonte | lol |
| 07:51.20 | Codayus | Heh, last time I was in ZG, a lock summoned an infernal in the bat boss fight. |
| 07:51.26 | pagefault | "yeah we almost beat onyxia but the warlock's pet wiped us" |
| 07:51.31 | Anduin|MC | should be able to summon a deathknight |
| 07:51.42 | kremonte | infernals have their moments |
| 07:51.56 | kremonte | doomguards moment is when youre farming demons in winterspring |
| 07:51.59 | kremonte | and you have 2 at a time |
| 07:52.02 | pagefault | I usually just summon one in AB sometimes to piss people off |
| 07:52.09 | Codayus | When things turned bad, we ran back to reset the encounter. The infernal broke free and followed us, and nearly wiped the survivors. oO |
| 07:52.10 | kremonte | one dies and a DG spawns, and they both /rofl as they pound you |
| 07:52.21 | pagefault | it sucks you can't soul link with it as of 1.9 |
| 07:52.22 | pagefault | no fun |
| 07:52.26 | kremonte | ... |
| 07:52.29 | kremonte | wtf? |
| 07:52.36 | pagefault | they got rid of that |
| 07:52.37 | kremonte | you cant sl with a DEMON that YOU summoned? |
| 07:52.43 | kremonte | no more soul linking after MC cap, lol |
| 07:52.45 | Codayus | Apparently it isn't a demon. |
| 07:52.45 | pagefault | you can't soul link with an infernal or doomguard |
| 07:52.52 | kremonte | that was so fun |
| 07:52.54 | pagefault | making it even more useless |
| 07:52.59 | kergoth | Codayus: haha, that sucks (re: zg bat fight) |
| 07:53.05 | pagefault | man |
| 07:53.09 | pagefault | I hate that batgirl in ZG |
| 07:53.12 | kremonte | sac a pet, MC someone, soul link him, as a rogue beats on me he gets owned |
| 07:53.14 | pagefault | and her stupid bombs |
| 07:53.21 | kremonte | bat boss is boring ;( |
| 07:53.27 | Codayus | kergoth: Yeah. It was funny though. The 'lock died early, and was begging for a rez so he could try to re-enslave. :-) |
| 07:53.28 | kremonte | i like the bloodlord fight |
| 07:53.34 | pagefault | annoying though |
| 07:53.42 | kremonte | [xxx] whispers: BLOODLORD IS WATCHING YOU |
| 07:53.44 | pagefault | what is the point of curse of doom btw |
| 07:53.47 | Codayus | "No! Don't kill it! |
| 07:53.50 | pagefault | I mean yes it summons a doomguard sometimes |
| 07:53.53 | pagefault | but you can't charm it |
| 07:53.54 | kremonte | sustained fights |
| 07:54.14 | kremonte | mine does 3500dmg; 3500/60 = an added 59DPS |
| 07:54.15 | pagefault | it seems like it's a spell to piss off people more than anything |
| 07:54.20 | pagefault | put it on a critter and run away laughing |
| 07:54.27 | kremonte | critter would deaggro by then. heh |
| 07:54.28 | kergoth | Codayus: haha |
| 07:54.33 | Codayus | Honestly, how hard would it be to make the endgame pets usable? |
| 07:54.38 | pagefault | I have to still try if I can use it on hunter's pets |
| 07:54.40 | pagefault | you can't use it on players |
| 07:54.46 | pagefault | but it doesn't say anything about pets |
| 07:54.52 | kremonte | doesnt work |
| 07:54.56 | pagefault | bah |
| 07:54.56 | pagefault | lame |
| 07:55.31 | kremonte | its nice on bosses when we arent using much debuff slots, or farming multiple mobs at once, etc |
| 07:55.35 | Codayus | 5min timer? I mean, who thought up the bright idea of an endgame pet that doesn't last for the length of an endgame fight? |
| 07:55.51 | kremonte | Codayus - blizzard |
| 07:55.54 | pagefault | well at least in 1.8 you have a chance to re-enslave it |
| 07:55.56 | Codayus | :-( |
| 07:55.57 | pagefault | 1.9 completely breaks that |
| 07:56.14 | pagefault | diminishing returns for the loss |
| 07:56.15 | kremonte | wait wah? you cant reenslsave? |
| 07:56.17 | kremonte | omg |
| 07:56.18 | Codayus | Number of times I've seen an infernal in IF? About 50. |
| 07:56.28 | pagefault | you can but it sucks now |
| 07:56.31 | Codayus | Number of times I've seen an infernal in a raid? About uh...1. |
| 07:56.39 | Codayus | Number of times I've seen an infernal help the raid? 0. |
| 07:56.44 | pagefault | because the infernal is 10% better |
| 07:56.49 | pagefault | it means you can't control it for as long |
| 07:56.53 | pagefault | according to blizzard's logic |
| 07:57.57 | pagefault | at least they fixed nightfall |
| 07:57.59 | pagefault | that was great |
| 07:58.03 | kremonte | 1.10: The Doomguard pet hits for 300% more damage than previously. Now immune to Banish, Enslave, and the Sense Demons tracking skill. |
| 07:58.10 | pagefault | you lose it if you are already casting or facing the wrong direction |
| 07:58.14 | kremonte | gg, i use nightfall since 1.5 till 1.8 |
| 07:58.17 | kremonte | now they fix it |
| 07:58.19 | kremonte | f you bliz |
| 07:58.56 | pagefault | that drain soul talent is still busted from day 0 too |
| 07:59.03 | pagefault | when you are supposed to get a 100% mana regen rate |
| 07:59.12 | kremonte | yup |
| 07:59.49 | pagefault | but we g0tz the bagz! |
| 07:59.53 | pagefault | and updated succubus art |
| 07:59.55 | pagefault | $#@@#$ |
| 08:00.13 | kremonte | zxopmg |
| 08:00.25 | kremonte | gr8est upd8 |
| 08:00.33 | pagefault | because the bigger tits makes your spells more powerful |
| 08:00.35 | pagefault | it's a known fact |
| 08:00.52 | Anduin|MC | damn, my spells must suck.. |
| 08:01.11 | kremonte | [ 03:00 ] [pagefault] because the more bugs you have, the more your powerful spells need to be nerfed |
| 08:01.12 | kremonte | fixed |
| 08:01.13 | pagefault | that was the most pointless warlock update ever |
| 08:01.40 | pagefault | they really gotta redo affliction |
| 08:01.42 | pagefault | corruption is so crappy |
| 08:01.48 | kremonte | corruption is great |
| 08:01.58 | pagefault | it's great for the 0.2 seconds it's on the guy |
| 08:02.00 | pagefault | then he dispells it |
| 08:02.07 | kremonte | lol |
| 08:02.10 | kremonte | anti-rogue =) |
| 08:02.25 | pagefault | yeah |
| 08:02.35 | pagefault | usually with rogues I just hold them in a long seduce |
| 08:02.45 | pagefault | so they can't go anywhere while I cast my extremely long corruption |
| 08:02.50 | kremonte | you're horde |
| 08:02.53 | kremonte | welcome to the alliance :) |
| 08:03.07 | kremonte | everyone has a trinket or two and their good ole' wotf -_-" |
| 08:03.08 | pagefault | you have pally's |
| 08:03.12 | pagefault | I think we are even |
| 08:03.17 | kremonte | you have shaman |
| 08:03.19 | kremonte | you win :D |
| 08:03.29 | kremonte | shaman + wotf > pally^2 |
| 08:03.43 | kremonte | i bet my escape artist will win the fight against you, warlock |
| 08:03.57 | pagefault | haha |
| 08:04.06 | pagefault | I have too many trinkets/rings to extend my life another 2000 hp |
| 08:04.25 | kremonte | it's just that, so much of the horde are undead |
| 08:04.36 | kremonte | tauren are coming close, but war stomp isn't too nice either -.-; |
| 08:04.42 | pagefault | there is actually a shortage of undead warlocks on my server |
| 08:04.51 | kremonte | and an overload of undead rogues? X) |
| 08:04.51 | pagefault | people want them to roll more |
| 08:04.56 | pagefault | nah |
| 08:05.00 | pagefault | we have a ton of warriors |
| 08:05.01 | kremonte | orc warlock plx |
| 08:05.01 | pagefault | and shamen |
| 08:05.04 | pagefault | shaman |
| 08:05.07 | kremonte | PVE or PVP? |
| 08:05.12 | pagefault | pve |
| 08:05.19 | kremonte | that explains it. X) |
| 08:05.29 | pagefault | warlock is useless on pvp |
| 08:05.31 | Osagasu | <,< |
| 08:05.32 | pagefault | I wouldn't attempt that :) |
| 08:05.35 | Osagasu | ZPE ftl. ;_; |
| 08:05.38 | kremonte | ZPE? |
| 08:05.42 | kremonte | pagefault - how so? |
| 08:05.48 | Osagasu | Zero Point Energy |
| 08:05.51 | Osagasu | :P |
| 08:05.54 | pagefault | well until you get death coil you are pretty much screwed |
| 08:06.04 | kremonte | what do you mean, Osagasu? ._> |
| 08:06.09 | kremonte | pagefault - nah |
| 08:06.12 | Osagasu | Cair will know |
| 08:06.13 | kremonte | you have undead! ^_^ |
| 08:06.26 | pagefault | really I don't find wotf that much of an advantage |
| 08:06.29 | Osagasu | hopefully |
| 08:06.32 | pagefault | I still get hit with the sleep/charm shit |
| 08:06.39 | pagefault | even with wotf + horde trinket |
| 08:06.42 | Anduin|MC | could even down luci in 4 hrs |
| 08:06.48 | Anduin|MC | couldn't |
| 08:07.03 | Cair | will know what? |
| 08:07.07 | kremonte | pagefault - i've replaced my fear key with howl of terror. it's different for everyone, but you REALLY notice it on alliance |
| 08:07.29 | pagefault | wotf is so nerfed it's not really useless anymore, only lasts 5 seconds |
| 08:07.35 | kremonte | it's not the immunity |
| 08:07.37 | pagefault | in that time it has already worn off and you can cast fear/seduce again |
| 08:07.37 | kremonte | it's that it breaks fear |
| 08:07.40 | kremonte | (and seduce) |
| 08:07.45 | kremonte | DR's, pagefault |
| 08:07.57 | pagefault | I have improved succubus |
| 08:07.58 | kremonte | fear 1-> WotF, fear 2-> trinket, fear 3-> 2sec max |
| 08:07.59 | pagefault | I don't notice DR |
| 08:08.13 | pagefault | i've held UD rogues in duels for a long time |
| 08:08.13 | kremonte | so instead of 4sec max, you get 14... |
| 08:08.20 | pagefault | close to 30 seconds |
| 08:08.26 | kremonte | duels are different =/ |
| 08:08.35 | pagefault | it's the same thing |
| 08:08.44 | kremonte | against a warlock in world pvp, it is not the same thing |
| 08:08.50 | Osagasu | Cair: Will know what a ZPE Generator is |
| 08:08.50 | ForgottenLords | *sigh* who would have thought that that maintaining a UI mod would be so diffiuclt after only two days |
| 08:08.51 | Osagasu | :P |
| 08:08.52 | kremonte | people have their hands over their wotf and trinket keys |
| 08:09.07 | pagefault | if they are smart they have an addon that automatically runs it :) |
| 08:09.08 | Cair | SG:1 woohoo! |
| 08:09.14 | Osagasu | nono |
| 08:09.16 | kremonte | that too |
| 08:09.20 | Osagasu | Stargate is a ZPM |
| 08:09.21 | kremonte | and that makes it easier? -_-" |
| 08:09.22 | Cair | ;) |
| 08:09.25 | pagefault | well |
| 08:09.27 | kremonte | see there' also a difference |
| 08:09.28 | Cair | I know :p |
| 08:09.31 | pagefault | even with wotf |
| 08:09.34 | Cair | was being silly :p |
| 08:09.34 | kremonte | i don't run around seduce nuke seduce nuke omg i have skillz |
| 08:09.36 | pagefault | the alliance still kicks our ass |
| 08:09.44 | Osagasu | which is basically a ZPE Generator... just a different name. |
| 08:09.45 | pagefault | unfortuneatly |
| 08:09.51 | kremonte | it is really different on a pve server=/ |
| 08:10.06 | pagefault | pally HoJ is the most annoying thing in the game |
| 08:10.09 | pagefault | next to their sheild |
| 08:10.11 | kremonte | agreed |
| 08:10.14 | kremonte | i cannot beat pallies in duels |
| 08:10.28 | kremonte | but, a shaman gives me a run for my money every single time |
| 08:10.33 | pagefault | I never tried if the felhunter can remove HoJ |
| 08:10.36 | pagefault | it is a magic effect |
| 08:11.12 | Osagasu | g'night |
| 08:11.24 | pagefault | best thing I do with pally's is try to drain all their mana |
| 08:11.27 | pagefault | so they are gimped warriors |
| 08:11.27 | kremonte | you know what it's like getting windfuried for half your HP, then stunned on your fear, grounding down, and helpless as the shammy melees off the last of your hp? |
| 08:11.35 | kremonte | drain mana can be cleansed |
| 08:11.59 | kremonte | shammies don't have the stuns though, so i can beat them occasionaly |
| 08:12.05 | kremonte | since shaman general don't have anything to break fear |
| 08:12.10 | kremonte | generally* |
| 08:12.38 | pagefault | I think it's BS the warlock gets a anti-fear trinket |
| 08:12.39 | pagefault | like hello |
| 08:12.43 | pagefault | where is anti-stun |
| 08:12.45 | kremonte | lol |
| 08:12.47 | pagefault | what does a warrior need that for |
| 08:13.24 | pagefault | I think on some wall at blizzard |
| 08:13.28 | pagefault | they have a foodchain of classes |
| 08:13.30 | pagefault | shammy is at the top |
| 08:13.51 | kremonte | then warrior and rogue tied for second X) |
| 08:14.18 | kremonte | now, here's a question |
| 08:14.23 | kremonte | what's more frightening |
| 08:14.28 | pagefault | I wish we could at least get some talent that would stop interruption to fear casts |
| 08:14.51 | kremonte | a warrior with a spinal reaper charging over a hill in shiny silver armour, laced with spikes and black glows reaking of death |
| 08:15.20 | kremonte | or a rogue you spotted, but don't know is there now, lurking in the shadows, waiting for you to move so he can catch you by surprise, with daggers sharper than the sharpest metal |
| 08:15.32 | pagefault | rogue |
| 08:15.39 | pagefault | btw shadowmeld needs to be nerfed so bad |
| 08:15.45 | kremonte | shadowmeld is OK imo |
| 08:15.53 | kremonte | all that really uses it is hunter |
| 08:16.09 | pagefault | yeah too bad 90% of alliance hunters are night elves |
| 08:16.10 | kremonte | nerf berserking |
| 08:16.28 | kremonte | lol, but now, take the amount of alliance hunters and compare it to all undead |
| 08:16.30 | pagefault | they already did |
| 08:16.33 | pagefault | it's in the 1.9 patch :) |
| 08:16.37 | kremonte | i know, i lol'ed |
| 08:17.04 | pagefault | they roll a dice |
| 08:17.06 | pagefault | see who gets nerfed |
| 08:17.10 | pagefault | pick a random talent |
| 08:17.13 | pagefault | and do it |
| 08:17.49 | pagefault | there dosn't seem to be any strategy to their nerfs |
| 08:17.58 | kremonte | lol yup |
| 08:18.05 | kremonte | okay, warlocks... |
| 08:18.09 | kremonte | conflagrate wins |
| 08:18.12 | kremonte | lets make it instant cast |
| 08:18.19 | pagefault | I was happy with that |
| 08:18.23 | pagefault | same with instant demonic sac |
| 08:18.28 | kremonte | but it was uncalled for, heh |
| 08:18.32 | kremonte | ok, warlock time again |
| 08:18.36 | kremonte | and here goes the dice... |
| 08:18.41 | pagefault | I thought the death coil thing was fake |
| 08:18.43 | pagefault | when I read about it |
| 08:18.44 | kremonte | Dev_003: we should address the shard issue |
| 08:18.55 | kremonte | the winner is death coil... let's make it useful! |
| 08:19.06 | kremonte | Dev_003 was fired from <Blizzard> |
| 08:19.19 | pagefault | Dev_002: I think we made a game back in 1993 that had something called a death coil, lets use that as an example |
| 08:19.36 | kremonte | http://dan-rouse.com/whatreallyhappened_blizzcon.jpg |
| 08:19.52 | Cair | oh ... dear ... *wonders whether to click or not* |
| 08:19.57 | pagefault | aoe corruption would be the best |
| 08:20.05 | kremonte | lol, i posted that on the forums awhile ago, when someone asked for a pic of slouken |
| 08:20.20 | Cair | oh, that :p |
| 08:21.03 | pagefault | that mage must need magic to keep her clothes on |
| 08:21.12 | kremonte | XD |
| 08:21.18 | pagefault | seriously :) |
| 08:21.43 | pagefault | how can you call that armor |
| 08:21.43 | kremonte | the magic of money |
| 08:21.53 | kremonte | lol, i really should go to sleep...gotta be up in... 3.5hrs |
| 08:22.04 | pagefault | haha |
| 08:22.15 | kremonte | my brother is auditioning for berkeley college |
| 08:22.22 | pagefault | nice |
| 08:22.50 | pagefault | I feel bad for eyonix or whatever his name was |
| 08:22.54 | kremonte | lol |
| 08:22.57 | pagefault | he was pretty much flamed out of the warlock forum |
| 08:23.16 | pagefault | at least we finally have someone who knows whats going on |
| 08:23.21 | kremonte | all CMs are flamed out of everywhere =/ |
| 08:23.36 | pagefault | eoynix didn't even play a warlock as his main |
| 08:23.38 | pagefault | he had a shammy or something |
| 08:23.39 | Anduin|MC | mats for tribute, bolts, widget, oil, leather. i missing anything? |
| 08:23.41 | kremonte | mages were like "yay tseric i love you", a week later i'm seeing posts "tseric sucks, we need a new CM" |
| 08:23.58 | pagefault | so it was pretty obvious he didn't see the problem with warlocks |
| 08:24.02 | pagefault | he pry played shammy and was like |
| 08:24.04 | pagefault | wow this game is perfect |
| 08:24.11 | kremonte | lol |
| 08:24.39 | kremonte | and now they say, "our class is complete... we need plate armor to be like pallies" |
| 08:24.42 | kergoth | shammy isnt overpowered, its just one of the few classes that isnt broken, imho |
| 08:24.55 | kremonte | there are some things that are unfair |
| 08:24.57 | Codayus | Along with rogues. |
| 08:25.04 | kremonte | 6cd on shocks? |
| 08:25.07 | pagefault | I just think it's stupid |
| 08:25.09 | Codayus | But since both sides get rogues, you don't see QUITE as much whining. |
| 08:25.13 | pagefault | they won't remove shards because it's some decision someone made |
| 08:25.15 | kremonte | earthbind is BS too |
| 08:25.19 | pagefault | and they don't want to look like they made a mistake |
| 08:25.21 | pagefault | heh |
| 08:25.31 | kergoth | everyone who starts downing shamans starts listing things off that no one shaman can have |
| 08:25.37 | kergoth | it depends on how they're spec'd |
| 08:25.47 | kremonte | arent all shocks 6sec cd? |
| 08:25.56 | kremonte | i dont know anything about shaman really =/ |
| 08:26.07 | pagefault | I think it's bullshit they use rank 1 earthshock to interrupt spells |
| 08:26.12 | kremonte | yep. |
| 08:26.18 | kergoth | the cd depends on the talent points |
| 08:26.25 | kremonte | what is the BASE cd though? |
| 08:26.29 | kergoth | and rank 1 doesnt interrupt a lot of spells, at least in pve. dunno about pvp |
| 08:26.31 | pagefault | although |
| 08:26.36 | kergoth | i had to bump mine up to rank 4 to be useful |
| 08:26.36 | pagefault | I used to spam rank 1 corruption for nightfall |
| 08:26.38 | kremonte | sure works in PVP -_- |
| 08:26.49 | kergoth | if you've never played a shaman, you have no idea what rank earth shock they're using |
| 08:26.55 | kremonte | um |
| 08:26.58 | kremonte | the one that does 33 damage? |
| 08:26.59 | kergoth | so you can stop making those claims anytime now |
| 08:27.11 | kremonte | i sure hope their rank 4 ES doesnt do 33 damage. |
| 08:27.22 | Codayus | Heh |
| 08:27.27 | pagefault | does aoe knock their totems out |
| 08:27.31 | kremonte | nope |
| 08:27.33 | pagefault | wtf |
| 08:28.03 | pagefault | I think shamens need like |
| 08:28.05 | pagefault | totemshards |
| 08:28.09 | pagefault | they gotta cut down trees or some shit |
| 08:28.10 | pagefault | and make them |
| 08:28.30 | Codayus | pagefault: No, no, what we need is to fix warlocks, not to break all the other classes just as badly. |
| 08:28.36 | kremonte | lol |
| 08:28.38 | pagefault | well |
| 08:28.50 | kremonte | but |
| 08:28.50 | pagefault | what is more likely to happen |
| 08:28.53 | kremonte | that's not going to happen |
| 08:28.53 | pagefault | thats what I am going for |
| 08:28.53 | Codayus | Next you'll be saying rogues should farm their own poison reagents off of snakes or something. :-P |
| 08:29.04 | kremonte | o noes, rogues + effort = ???????!@!##$%^*YGHb |
| 08:29.04 | pagefault | well it's basically a valid comparison |
| 08:29.06 | kremonte | the world just ended |
| 08:29.14 | pagefault | we are the only class that has to farm something to work |
| 08:29.16 | Codayus | kremonte: I know, it's just completely nonsensical. |
| 08:29.32 | pagefault | even hunters don't even have to farm bullets or food for their pets |
| 08:29.33 | Codayus | pagefault: Hey! Priests have to farm too! |
| 08:29.34 | kremonte | Rogue: WE HAVE 2 FARM 4 MONEY 2 BUY POISONS TO W0RK |
| 08:29.34 | pagefault | they just buy it |
| 08:29.40 | Codayus | We have to farm feathers from westfall! |
| 08:29.45 | pagefault | oh big deal |
| 08:29.49 | kremonte | o noes ;(( |
| 08:29.49 | Codayus | .....to cast levitate, I admit, but let's not get picky... |
| 08:29.52 | kremonte | lol Codayus |
| 08:30.02 | pagefault | priests and their instant cast aoe fear |
| 08:30.05 | pagefault | bleh |
| 08:30.10 | Codayus | The important thing is that we have to farm. SO there. :-P |
| 08:30.19 | kremonte | can you do if i % 2 then i = even in lua? |
| 08:30.31 | kergoth | kremonte: math.mod() |
| 08:30.32 | kremonte | Codayus, those are all grays, not level 48+'s :( |
| 08:30.34 | kremonte | arigatou |
| 08:30.36 | kergoth | kremonte: the % operator wasnt added until lua 5.1 |
| 08:30.44 | kremonte | upgrade WoW or nerf lua omg |
| 08:30.50 | pagefault | it's funny those pigs outside org don't have a soul after you level up |
| 08:30.53 | pagefault | it's sad |
| 08:30.59 | kremonte | i'm posting on the lua forums that lua needs to be nerfed |
| 08:31.11 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MoonWolf (i=MoonWolf@ip51ccaa81.speed.planet.nl) |
| 08:31.11 | pagefault | also |
| 08:31.12 | pagefault | it's sad |
| 08:31.16 | pagefault | you can't get a shard off of a DK |
| 08:31.22 | pagefault | a kill is a kill in my book |
| 08:31.24 | kremonte | or a pvp flagged green |
| 08:31.28 | kergoth | poor pigs, soulless |
| 08:31.29 | Cair | hey MoonWolf :) |
| 08:31.37 | MoonWolf | hey people, and cair. |
| 08:31.41 | pagefault | oh well |
| 08:31.47 | Cair | oh, nice, I'm not people? |
| 08:31.47 | pagefault | I just want that pet bug exploit fixed |
| 08:31.48 | pagefault | that is VERY lame |
| 08:31.54 | kremonte | how would i use math.mod? |
| 08:32.20 | pagefault | very carefully |
| 08:32.24 | kremonte | gasp |
| 08:32.29 | kremonte | it wont crash me jeux tho ;) |
| 08:32.32 | Codayus | Hmmm. |
| 08:32.34 | pagefault | very carefully |
| 08:32.36 | pagefault | is the answer |
| 08:32.50 | Iriel | what do you mean, how woul dyou use it? |
| 08:32.54 | MoonWolf | op's are not people. |
| 08:32.55 | Iriel | oh.. I see |
| 08:33.08 | Iriel | if (math.mod(i,2) == 0) then i is even end |
| 08:33.12 | pagefault | kergoth, hey is there a version of depositbox that doesn't look like ass |
| 08:33.19 | kergoth | not that i know of |
| 08:33.31 | pagefault | well |
| 08:33.32 | Codayus | WHat if soulshards wearn't BoP, but had the lvl of the mob you drained it from in the name? So a lvl 60 spell would require a lvl 48 or better soulshard? Then you could buy them on the AH... |
| 08:33.34 | pagefault | I put it on titanbar |
| 08:33.34 | MoonWolf | dock it in titan. |
| 08:33.36 | pagefault | it looks a bit better |
| 08:33.53 | Codayus | Then if they'd just stack or Bliz would allow really *REALLY* large shard bags, things would actually not be that bad... |
| 08:33.55 | kergoth | i never leave it up, pagefault |
| 08:33.57 | pagefault | I love that kc_repairbot though |
| 08:33.59 | kergoth | i enable the minimap icon |
| 08:34.07 | kergoth | yeah, its great |
| 08:34.10 | kergoth | ~praise kaelten |
| 08:34.11 | purl | All hail kaelten! |
| 08:34.21 | pagefault | I started using itemrack too |
| 08:34.22 | MoonWolf | i want to see a 20 30 40 bag system. |
| 08:34.23 | pagefault | that is some cool stuff |
| 08:34.36 | MoonWolf | for shardbags |
| 08:34.39 | kremonte | i found the solution to fixing the world |
| 08:34.40 | pagefault | jump in water, and you have your fast swimming stuff equipped |
| 08:34.41 | kremonte | ./script local shaman = "shaman"; for i=1,10 do if (math.mod(i, 2) == 0) then shaman = shaman .. "an"; else shaman = shaman .. "am"; end end DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(shaman); |
| 08:35.26 | MoonWolf | i fail to see why this is funny |
| 08:35.32 | kergoth | pagefault: yeah, itemrack rocks. especially with the new events |
| 08:35.38 | pagefault | oh yeah |
| 08:35.42 | pagefault | how do I reconfigure smartactionbar |
| 08:35.51 | kergoth | smartactionbar? |
| 08:35.51 | pagefault | I moved some stuff around and now lifetap is busted unless I have a target |
| 08:35.56 | pagefault | even though it's a self cast |
| 08:36.17 | pagefault | let me find the name |
| 08:37.40 | pagefault | ok I have no idea what it's called offhand |
| 08:37.46 | pagefault | i'll find out next time it gives me that error |
| 08:37.57 | kergoth | k |
| 08:38.04 | kergoth | pagefault: do a /bs show |
| 08:38.10 | kergoth | pagefault: is the error there? |
| 08:38.15 | pagefault | btw did you install some addon that makes your pet attack whatever is targetted? |
| 08:38.26 | kergoth | nope |
| 08:38.31 | kergoth | could be AQ_Servitude? dunno |
| 08:38.38 | pagefault | for some reason my pets go off on their own quests even in passive mode |
| 08:38.40 | pagefault | it's quite annoying |
| 08:38.41 | kergoth | thats been in there for a bit now |
| 08:38.44 | kergoth | dunno |
| 08:39.03 | pagefault | AQ? |
| 08:39.33 | pagefault | ah actionqueue |
| 08:39.36 | pagefault | yeah I am not sure what that even does |
| 08:39.51 | Anduin|DM | aq owns |
| 08:39.57 | kremonte | ya it does =o |
| 08:40.31 | pagefault | maybe servitude is being silly |
| 08:40.36 | pagefault | no other alternatives really though |
| 08:41.01 | Cair | ~for porn |
| 08:41.03 | purl | http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi |
| 08:41.04 | kremonte | i dont use any warlock addons =o |
| 08:41.07 | kremonte | rofl |
| 08:41.12 | pagefault | I can't stand the in-game "AI" |
| 08:41.18 | pagefault | casting spell lock on stuff with no mana |
| 08:41.22 | kremonte | ctrl+1, ctrl+2, ctrl+3 :) |
| 08:41.57 | pagefault | I like the auto VW sac |
| 08:42.01 | pagefault | the game should have that built in |
| 08:42.06 | kergoth | pagefault: AQ is what makes things happen when you move. AQ_BuffBot is what autobuffs, for example |
| 08:42.31 | Anduin|DM | Is there a Trinket addon that has a drop down of all the trinkets in ur inv? |
| 08:42.34 | pagefault | ahh |
| 08:42.46 | kergoth | Anduin|DM: trinketmenu or itemrack |
| 08:43.02 | kergoth | i use itemrack, since its like wardrobe or equipmanager and trinketmenu together |
| 08:43.04 | kergoth | works well |
| 08:43.04 | Anduin|DM | any one for titan? |
| 08:43.08 | kergoth | hmmm, dunno |
| 08:43.14 | pagefault | yeah I need it now for carrot on a stick |
| 08:43.15 | Anduin|DM | i have wardrobe all setup atm |
| 08:43.19 | pagefault | since I don't want that trinket in there |
| 08:43.36 | kremonte | i have too many trinkets |
| 08:43.39 | Anduin|DM | same |
| 08:44.06 | kergoth | i have them organized into itemrack sets. a couple rarely used ones in the bank most of hte time |
| 08:44.15 | kergoth | bah, dc'd and died |
| 08:44.18 | kergoth | hate that |
| 08:44.32 | pagefault | I like it when you connect and like 2 guys are attacking you |
| 08:44.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:45.03 | pagefault | I guess thats what you get for not logging out in an inn |
| 08:46.00 | Anduin|DM | CancelTrackingBuff quit ftw |
| 08:46.42 | pagefault | btw you should really add bginvite to the addons |
| 08:46.43 | pagefault | it's so ownage |
| 08:46.46 | Anduin|DM | howd it go tem? better than mine i hope |
| 08:46.49 | pagefault | no more "invite plz" |
| 08:46.57 | Tem | we got no where really |
| 08:47.10 | Tem | took down 5 of domo's adds every time |
| 08:47.12 | Anduin|DM | same... couldn't down luci |
| 08:47.26 | Anduin|DM | we got 2 epic boe's tho |
| 08:47.29 | Tem | but at some point one add would get free and run around eating healers |
| 08:47.31 | Tem | us too |
| 08:47.39 | Tem | Cenarion belt |
| 08:47.42 | Anduin|DM | nothing plate :/ |
| 08:47.50 | pagefault | dr00id gear |
| 08:47.50 | Tem | and some crap staff world drop |
| 08:48.11 | pagefault | it's weird they change into animals and such |
| 08:48.14 | pagefault | but the armor disappears |
| 08:48.17 | pagefault | whats with that |
| 08:48.20 | Tem | lol |
| 08:48.26 | kremonte | my guild had to leave before geddon today, lag got so bad that we need to make up 2 more bosses tomorrow :( |
| 08:48.31 | kremonte | and full to-rag run |
| 08:48.45 | kremonte | but that means since i'll be late i won't miss golemagg =X |
| 08:48.55 | krem`zz | nn all |
| 08:49.02 | Tem | later |
| 08:49.10 | pagefault | yeah good idea |
| 08:49.11 | pagefault | bed |
| 08:49.30 | kergoth | pagefault: when they transform into a beast and back to human, they shoudl end up naked |
| 08:49.32 | kergoth | :) |
| 08:49.40 | pagefault | yeah |
| 08:49.41 | Tem | ok that was awkward... |
| 08:49.44 | pagefault | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.51 | pagefault | unless it's a tauren |
| 08:49.54 | pagefault | they can keep their clothes on |
| 08:49.59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:50.08 | Tem | I just went downstairs and found my roommate and several of his friends sleeping on the floor |
| 08:50.36 | pagefault | don't ask |
| 08:51.22 | Anduin|DM | trinket menu's pretty nifty |
| 08:51.44 | Codayus | ... |
| 08:51.46 | kergoth | bliz shouldve added some more elements of fun realism. if your char is naked, it should start getting all embarrassed and trying to cover its privates |
| 08:52.00 | pagefault | raises sprit of everyone around you |
| 08:52.02 | pagefault | if you are naked |
| 08:52.05 | pagefault | err |
| 08:52.06 | pagefault | spirit |
| 08:52.10 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:52.32 | pagefault | cozy fire does that |
| 08:52.39 | kergoth | woah, bug in my graphics methinks |
| 08:52.45 | kergoth | i can see a seam between these textures |
| 08:52.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 08:53.10 | Cair | ~for porn |
| 08:53.13 | purl | http://www.infested.dk/uploads/Forporn.avi |
| 08:53.13 | pagefault | the ati drivers have a long running bug that makes a line of crap show up on the side of your screen |
| 08:53.19 | Cair | *cheers* |
| 08:53.28 | pagefault | at least on my card |
| 08:54.11 | pagefault | seems like they are more interested in squeezing more fps out of doom3 and hl2 than fixing WoW though |
| 08:54.33 | kergoth | i get _double_ the fps in wow in linux compared to windows |
| 08:54.37 | kergoth | its odd |
| 08:54.48 | pagefault | what |
| 08:54.50 | pagefault | impossible |
| 08:54.58 | kergoth | i average 50-60 in linux. 20-30 in windows |
| 08:55.03 | pagefault | wtf?! |
| 08:55.03 | kergoth | the former in emulation of course |
| 08:55.05 | kergoth | its crazy |
| 08:55.14 | pagefault | it NEVER used to be like that |
| 08:55.15 | Beladona | WITH emulation? |
| 08:55.16 | kergoth | on my card, anyway |
| 08:55.17 | kergoth | 9600xt |
| 08:55.20 | Beladona | weird |
| 08:55.20 | Iriel | Same resolution? |
| 08:55.23 | Iriel | And graphics settings? |
| 08:55.27 | kergoth | identical Config.wtf |
| 08:55.35 | pagefault | emulation? |
| 08:55.37 | kergoth | same refresh, same screen resolution |
| 08:55.38 | Codayus | kergoth: Do you use opengl or directx in linux? |
| 08:55.40 | kergoth | under cedega |
| 08:55.44 | pagefault | oh |
| 08:55.44 | kergoth | opengl in linux |
| 08:55.48 | kergoth | tried both opengl and directx in windows |
| 08:55.51 | kergoth | both equally slow |
| 08:55.53 | pagefault | d3d is garbage in cedega |
| 08:55.54 | Iriel | But are the linux drivers producing the exact same visual result? Or can they not support the same level of compatibility? |
| 08:56.01 | Iriel | Ditto sound |
| 08:56.05 | pagefault | they still haven't fixed that minimap bug in it |
| 08:56.26 | Codayus | pagefault: I think they have, actually. You sure? |
| 08:56.27 | kergoth | i've never seen a minimap bug |
| 08:56.31 | pagefault | Codayus, really? |
| 08:56.35 | kergoth | no crash, nada |
| 08:56.38 | pagefault | you don't notice the minimap bugs out when you go inside a building? |
| 08:56.42 | kergoth | nope |
| 08:56.44 | kergoth | works great |
| 08:56.53 | kergoth | do notice occasional texture quirks on the inside walls of buildings |
| 08:56.57 | kergoth | thats about it |
| 08:57.03 | pagefault | I actually noticed that winehq ran WoW faster than even cedega |
| 08:57.05 | Codayus | OTOH, my frame rate in linux is no different really, and it's a bit unstable. It also freezes for a second whenever I target someone, and I don't get targeting circles. |
| 08:57.08 | pagefault | when I was doing test a long timea go |
| 08:57.14 | Beladona | that may get me to try wow on my linux box |
| 08:57.25 | Codayus | It's certainly not HIGHER in linux. :-( |
| 08:57.34 | pagefault | thats very odd |
| 08:57.39 | pagefault | this is ati linux drivers we are talking about |
| 08:57.50 | Codayus | OTOH, a few months ago, Cedega wouldn't run on my card at *all*. |
| 08:57.56 | Codayus | ATI 9700 pro. |
| 08:58.00 | pagefault | looks like I have to try it out again |
| 08:58.04 | pagefault | transgaming hates ATI |
| 08:58.13 | pagefault | I think they are secretly funded by nvidia |
| 08:58.29 | Bela|SLEEP | night |
| 08:58.30 | kergoth | pagefault: yeah, that sucks |
| 08:58.37 | pagefault | games have been "broken" on ATI hardware for 3 years now |
| 08:58.40 | pagefault | there is no reason for it |
| 08:58.45 | Codayus | Also, I can't get ventrilo working under cedega, which is a bit of a problem. |
| 08:58.55 | pagefault | I think it's more like cedega has so much hacky code to work on nvidia cards |
| 08:59.01 | Codayus | pagefault: I think it may have more to do with ATI than transgaming. |
| 08:59.02 | kergoth | i run a vent server on my linux fileserver |
| 08:59.08 | kergoth | never tried a client though |
| 08:59.24 | pagefault | well |
| 08:59.33 | pagefault | I don't think cedega even works on a matrox card properly |
| 08:59.36 | Codayus | kergoth: There isn't a linux client, and while I sorta got vent working, as soon as anyone else's microphone turns OFF, mine stops working. |
| 08:59.40 | pagefault | anything that uses DRI in general is busted with it |
| 08:59.41 | kergoth | weird |
| 08:59.59 | kergoth | ? |
| 09:00.24 | pagefault | hmm |
| 09:00.29 | pagefault | the dx9 guy for wine is using an ati card though |
| 09:00.35 | kergoth | i should try it under the stock 'ati' xorg driver just for the hell of it |
| 09:00.44 | Codayus | Tested with a friend. If he didn't speak, it worked. If he spoke, it worked. If he ever stopped speaking, I could no longer transmit, UNTIL I hit the setup button in vent. Then it started again. oO |
| 09:00.46 | pagefault | you don't get 3d with that |
| 09:00.49 | kergoth | watch how slow software 3d is |
| 09:00.55 | kergoth | yeah you do, itll fall back to mesa |
| 09:00.55 | Tem | Cair|sleep: that movie is awesome |
| 09:01.05 | pagefault | the open source r200 driver for ati is kinda crappy too |
| 09:01.10 | pagefault | you gotta get "grey area" S3TC libs |
| 09:01.15 | pagefault | if you want to run anything useful |
| 09:01.20 | kergoth | pagefault: i did notice that radeonfb no longer conflicts with fglrx |
| 09:01.20 | Codayus | I'm going to upgrade my comp in, eh, a couple months. |
| 09:01.29 | kergoth | so you can have nice perty high rez console again now |
| 09:01.30 | pagefault | kergoth, yeah they finally put in xinerama support |
| 09:01.30 | Codayus | Anyone know how well WoW runs on a mac? |
| 09:01.32 | Codayus | :-) |
| 09:01.53 | pagefault | probably the same way any game runs on a mac |
| 09:01.54 | MoonWolf | they made a working client for mac |
| 09:02.03 | MoonWolf | not that hard i think. |
| 09:02.08 | pagefault | probably good enough to run |
| 09:02.12 | pagefault | but not the best |
| 09:02.24 | Codayus | I know I've got a couple guildies who run it on a mac. Should chase them down...if I could just remember which ones they are... |
| 09:02.25 | MoonWolf | Now only if they would the same for linux. |
| 09:02.34 | MoonWolf | would do* |
| 09:02.40 | pagefault | games seem to hate macs in general |
| 09:02.43 | pagefault | I don't know if it's a driver thing or what |
| 09:03.01 | norganna | i run on mac |
| 09:03.03 | pagefault | but it seems like mac ports of all the PC games always run slower |
| 09:03.08 | norganna | (and pc) |
| 09:03.08 | pagefault | even with similar hardware |
| 09:03.16 | kergoth | Iriel: there are definate graphical glitches, but those are driver bugs. regarding support of the technologies, i dont know enough about what the windows drivers do |
| 09:03.26 | pagefault | oh well |
| 09:03.32 | pagefault | I wouldn't buy a mac for gaming anyway |
| 09:03.36 | pagefault | it's a producitivty computer |
| 09:03.38 | MoonWolf | maybe most ports simply implement a emulator ... nah... on futher though. yeah mabye they do. |
| 09:03.39 | norganna | mac port runs good |
| 09:04.04 | pagefault | I need to try the linux version again if you say it runs that much faster |
| 09:04.08 | pagefault | then maybe I can not use windows so much |
| 09:04.17 | kergoth | does for me. worth trying it out |
| 09:04.21 | kergoth | cedega has a trial version now, fyi |
| 09:04.29 | pagefault | is this like in the middle of the barrens you are getting these numbers |
| 09:04.32 | pagefault | or in org |
| 09:04.35 | norganna | linux version seems to run faster on the same hardware than the windows one |
| 09:04.44 | kergoth | i'm talking comparison between linux and windows in the same zone |
| 09:04.49 | kergoth | both suck ass in org |
| 09:04.49 | pagefault | ah |
| 09:04.50 | pagefault | how is org |
| 09:04.59 | pagefault | that used to be almost unplayble |
| 09:04.59 | MoonWolf | sucky as alway's ? |
| 09:05.03 | kergoth | 18-20 in linux, 10-15 in windows |
| 09:05.05 | kergoth | or something like that |
| 09:05.08 | pagefault | wow |
| 09:05.10 | kergoth | have the numbers in a text file somewhere |
| 09:05.14 | pagefault | they must have really fixed some huge bottleneck |
| 09:05.22 | pagefault | or something |
| 09:05.26 | MoonWolf | i really really hope that 1.9 spreads the populos around a bit. |
| 09:05.51 | Codayus | kergoth: Incidentally, do you run WoW in a window? |
| 09:05.58 | pagefault | I was tryign WoW in linux when I had to disable the VBO extension with a prelink hack |
| 09:06.03 | kergoth | yep, i do |
| 09:06.13 | kergoth | i dont use wow's windowed support in linux though, cedega explodes if you do |
| 09:06.20 | pagefault | haha |
| 09:06.27 | kergoth | i enable cedega "desktop mode" at 1024x768 and run wow "full screen" |
| 09:06.33 | Codayus | I tried it, and got, eh, maybe 0.1 fps. In the main menu. oO |
| 09:06.34 | pagefault | crossoveroffice should run WoW |
| 09:06.50 | Codayus | AH, I was trying WoW's windowed mode. |
| 09:06.58 | MoonWolf | wow should support linux. |
| 09:07.14 | norganna | OOo is almost good enough to replace office these days |
| 09:07.21 | MoonWolf | nothing more, nothing less. but blizzard does not want too. |
| 09:07.25 | kergoth | i like cedega, then i can yell at transgaming when it doesnt work |
| 09:07.26 | norganna | sorry |
| 09:07.47 | pagefault | if they can do a macos x port they can do a linux one |
| 09:07.52 | kergoth | norganna: indeed it is. OOo 2.0 especially, it's been refined greatly |
| 09:07.53 | norganna | they did |
| 09:08.00 | pagefault | even release it as unsupported thing |
| 09:08.01 | norganna | (do a linux port) |
| 09:08.04 | pagefault | did they? |
| 09:08.15 | norganna | wow alpha had linux support |
| 09:08.26 | kergoth | /cry |
| 09:08.26 | norganna | they didn't release it tho |
| 09:08.33 | pagefault | they could easily add another 20k users by adding linux support |
| 09:08.38 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:08.50 | pagefault | with 15 million a month |
| 09:08.56 | pagefault | you think they could spend a few thounsand on a linux port |
| 09:09.35 | norganna | trouble is the maintenance cost of keeping an extra client up to date |
| 09:09.45 | norganna | vs the number of people using it |
| 09:09.52 | pagefault | they should do what epic did |
| 09:09.57 | pagefault | open source the parts that matter |
| 09:10.01 | pagefault | and keep the rest closed |
| 09:10.05 | kergoth | have em close source part of it and open source the rest, and let the community maintain the open parts |
| 09:10.05 | kergoth | yeah |
| 09:10.10 | norganna | especially when the windows client runs fine under wine |
| 09:10.17 | MoonWolf | i think that most updating happens on the information lvl and not in the executable... and tht information is the same cross platform. |
| 09:10.19 | kergoth | hell, i'd definately contribute to that personally |
| 09:10.25 | norganna | better than under windows in fact |
| 09:10.38 | pagefault | how proprietary can setting up opengl and sound be |
| 09:11.24 | kergoth | ~emulate chris |
| 09:11.25 | purl | I didn't know there was a 5 A.M. mass. I didn't even know there was a 5 A.M. What else haven't you told me!? |
| 09:11.35 | pagefault | probably worried about people h4x0ring it though |
| 09:12.08 | Cair|sleep | ~botsnack |
| 09:12.08 | purl | Cair|sleep: :) |
| 09:12.10 | pagefault | like if you had the source to the input code you could do lots of nasty things |
| 09:12.55 | kergoth | you can do lots of nasty things anyway |
| 09:13.04 | pagefault | true |
| 09:13.16 | pagefault | you could compile your version of wine with a keyboard hook |
| 09:13.17 | pagefault | :) |
| 09:13.18 | kergoth | and if you know enough to hack the code, its likely you can do them |
| 09:13.21 | kergoth | yep |
| 09:13.28 | MoonWolf | oh cair is asleep again... i think cair sleeps more when her status is normal then when she is on sleep.... |
| 09:13.39 | kergoth | or LD_PRELOAD intercept some calls |
| 09:13.42 | kergoth | lots of fun stuff |
| 09:13.53 | Cair|sleep | :p |
| 09:15.33 | Cair|sleep | it's called when I'm not sleeping, I'm busy doing other stuff, so don't always have time for the channel (although I spend enough time here, too), but when I'm getting ready to go sleep, I change my nick, check the sites a last time, make any random comments in channel, then pass out |
| 09:16.00 | Cair|sleep | have a *problem* with that? hmmmm? o.O |
| 09:16.29 | Cair|sleep | ;) |
| 09:16.32 | MoonWolf | no, i was simply observing. |
| 09:17.06 | Cair|sleep | norganna: you don't have to hide, I'm perfectly safe ... I don't bite ... much ... unless you beg real pretty |
| 09:18.58 | kergoth | eek |
| 09:19.01 | pagefault | new linux drivers for ati |
| 09:19.07 | pagefault | 68mb? |
| 09:19.07 | pagefault | wtf |
| 09:19.28 | kergoth | heh, i just built a new ubuntu package with the new bits from their tarball |
| 09:19.36 | kergoth | need the .deb? |
| 09:19.56 | kergoth | hmm, it got late |
| 09:20.16 | pagefault | the release notes say nothing about bad performance |
| 09:20.20 | pagefault | I wonder |
| 09:20.39 | MoonWolf | no they simply assume you know by now :P |
| 09:20.50 | pagefault | haha |
| 09:21.21 | pagefault | will have to use glxgears |
| 09:21.24 | pagefault | it's the best benchmark |
| 09:22.03 | pagefault | everyone should follow ubuntu's lead |
| 09:22.12 | pagefault | glxgears --glxgearsisnotabenchmark |
| 09:22.23 | pagefault | or it won't run |
| 09:22.24 | pagefault | :) |
| 09:23.42 | kergoth | heh, try fgl_glxgears |
| 09:28.48 | pagefault | CAPS LOCK: ITS LIKE THE CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME |
| 09:28.53 | pagefault | and |
| 09:28.54 | pagefault | bbl |
| 09:41.51 | Iriel | Anyone here still alive? |
| 09:44.19 | MoonWolf | me, if that is worth anything. |
| 09:44.29 | norganna | hmm |
| 09:45.56 | Iriel | anyone brave and possibly near the test server at some point? |
| 09:46.41 | MoonWolf | if people in europe would get over the omfg free lvl 60 must play, i might get on to test stuff. |
| 09:48.37 | groll | wehoo mooorning!! *bounces to feindflug* :D |
| 09:56.32 | groll | damn it was quiet in here today :P |
| 09:56.57 | Anduin|DM | it's early |
| 09:57.19 | Anduin|DM | i've played more wow in the past 30 hrs than in the last month |
| 09:57.31 | Anduin|DM | if u dont count coding/testing |
| 09:58.06 | Iriel | Ok, for anyone bored |
| 09:58.13 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/ |
| 09:58.18 | Iriel | StatRings-0.6.4dev-TestServerOnly-10900.zip |
| 09:59.08 | Ktron | Iriel: that using the new rotation stuff? |
| 09:59.19 | Iriel | Yes, though I'm aware of one bug thusfar |
| 09:59.28 | groll | Iriel is it like the nurfed hud? |
| 10:00.02 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/random/srings2.jpg |
| 10:00.06 | Iriel | It looks like that, at the moment |
| 10:00.13 | Iriel | more or less |
| 10:00.32 | groll | ah k looks kinda nice.. what is the topring and the one to the left? |
| 10:00.52 | Iriel | top is pet |
| 10:00.55 | Iriel | left is party1 |
| 10:01.01 | groll | ah |
| 10:01.05 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/random/srings3.jpg |
| 10:01.09 | Iriel | All rings active on that one |
| 10:01.13 | groll | but hehe u cant target via the rings right? |
| 10:01.27 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Ktron (n=Ktron@student2a-64.unh.edu) |
| 10:01.30 | Iriel | correct, they're visual only, I wouldnt want them to eat mouse clicks |
| 10:01.39 | groll | kk |
| 10:01.45 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Ktron (n=Ktron@student2a-64.unh.edu) |
| 10:01.49 | Ktron | Looks nice |
| 10:02.00 | Tem | Iriel: did I see you working on circle scroll bars? |
| 10:02.03 | Iriel | The real work today has been on the config GUI |
| 10:02.21 | Iriel | Tem: Not yet, but the idea sounded interesting enough I may try it some day |
| 10:03.03 | Iriel | I spent most of today fighting with a graphical configuration framework for my addon |
| 10:03.11 | Tem | psst |
| 10:03.13 | Iriel | And cleaning up some half-baked ideas |
| 10:03.15 | Tem | AceGUI |
| 10:03.31 | Iriel | I doubt AceGUI could handle it |
| 10:03.31 | Tem | I refuse to make GUI's without it |
| 10:03.45 | Anduin|DM | wonder if u can round/shape the edges.. |
| 10:03.50 | Tem | if it can't handle something I want, I write up a patch |
| 10:04.06 | Iriel | Unless AceGUI can manage things like complex mouseover management between sliders |
| 10:04.23 | Tem | Iriel: I'm not sure what you mean |
| 10:04.35 | Iriel | Tem: It's hard to explain, but i'll try |
| 10:04.38 | Anduin|DM | khaos can do sliders pretty well |
| 10:04.39 | Tem | Anduin|DM: I'm sure that would be pretty sime, but would require some texture editing |
| 10:04.57 | Iriel | First look at this: http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/random/sringsgui1.jpg |
| 10:05.25 | Iriel | Now, if I mouse over the "Full Health Alpha" window, all of the rings switch to be the alpha level of the slider, if I move the slider, they change with it |
| 10:05.39 | Iriel | When I mouse out (or stop sliding and mouse out), they revert to their old values |
| 10:05.46 | Tem | ok |
| 10:06.02 | Tem | I'm assuming that's not as easy as it sounds or else it wouldn't have taken all day |
| 10:06.03 | Iriel | That ended up being 'interesting' to implement |
| 10:06.06 | Codayus | nice trick |
| 10:06.20 | Codayus | Should make configuring that a lot easier for the end user... |
| 10:06.37 | Iriel | That's just one of many fun parts |
| 10:06.45 | Iriel | the data representation bit is quite fiddly too |
| 10:07.04 | Tem | Iriel: why can't you use just an OnEnter for the slider? |
| 10:07.07 | Iriel | since you can configure each group of rings (player,pet,target,party,partypet) separately, or make them a copy of another one |
| 10:07.12 | Iriel | Tem: I can, but LEAVING is the problem |
| 10:07.27 | Tem | because moving the slider gives you an OnLeave? |
| 10:07.34 | Anduin|DM | why do u need to go back to something after changing it? |
| 10:07.40 | Iriel | (A) OnLeave isn't reliable (B) If you're sliding while you leave it keeps focus until you let go |
| 10:08.03 | Iriel | Oh, and when you're dragging one slider, you still get OnEnters on all the others |
| 10:08.07 | Iriel | that last one was a nice touch |
| 10:08.21 | Codayus | ... |
| 10:08.23 | Codayus | lol |
| 10:08.33 | Codayus | Never underestimate Bliz. :-P |
| 10:08.34 | Tem | so while sliding you have to keep it on that one |
| 10:08.41 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 10:08.54 | Tem | that must have been frustrating |
| 10:08.55 | groll | hmm iriel suggestion.. |
| 10:08.58 | Anduin|DM | i'm confused why u need to do anythign onenter and leave of the slider.. |
| 10:08.59 | Iriel | I'm only abotu 75% happy with my current code, largely because it's messy |
| 10:09.09 | groll | move pet to bottom and target to a small one on top |
| 10:09.10 | Iriel | Anduin|DM | It wont make sense until you try it. |
| 10:09.19 | Iriel | groll : The eventual goal is to have a whole bunch of layouts |
| 10:09.37 | groll | kk |
| 10:09.53 | Iriel | groll : but so far I've been trying to get the mechanics of flipping between previews and live data working |
| 10:10.05 | Iriel | And saving/restoring settings (OK, CANCEL, etc) |
| 10:10.53 | groll | ah |
| 10:11.04 | Tem | Iriel: a suggestion. Maybe instead of health values indicating the alpha, recent activity. |
| 10:11.16 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Kolth (n=amoeba@206.174.74.130) |
| 10:11.29 | Tem | fade to "full" during activity on the bar and fade out after X seconds of idle |
| 10:11.53 | Iriel | Hm.. |
| 10:12.06 | Iriel | well, the way it is now, it fades as your health drops, and then stays visible until it's restored |
| 10:12.12 | Iriel | At which point, it goes back to fully faded |
| 10:12.47 | Tem | yeah, your method does essentially the same thing, but is a whole lot easier to implement |
| 10:13.17 | Iriel | Mine's just based on how I needed to know about stuff |
| 10:13.22 | Iriel | I.e. "By the way you're almost dead" |
| 10:13.32 | Iriel | and then something to keep my attention until i've recovered |
| 10:14.09 | Iriel | I AM thinking of adding an 'ignore mana' slider |
| 10:14.16 | Iriel | or maybe another threshold indicator |
| 10:14.33 | Iriel | so you can say 'dont unfade based on mana unless it's below 50%' or whatever |
| 10:16.02 | Tem | yeah, hunters |
| 10:16.08 | groll | u make it fade out as you are about to die? |
| 10:16.15 | Tem | fade in |
| 10:16.17 | Iriel | No, it fades IN as i'm about to die |
| 10:16.23 | groll | ah hehe :P |
| 10:16.32 | groll | sorry... me tired :P |
| 10:16.45 | Iriel | I've taken to playing with 0 (totally clear) at full health, 20%ish as soon as I take damage or use mana |
| 10:16.57 | Iriel | then solid when I get below 50% health |
| 10:17.06 | Codayus | That sounds like a pretty nice idea. |
| 10:17.08 | Iriel | as a sort of 'PAY ATTENTION' |
| 10:17.23 | Codayus | Gives a clean look for when traveling, wandering around town, etc... |
| 10:17.33 | Iriel | It's saved my low level mage a couple of times |
| 10:17.38 | Iriel | when she loses touch with her own mortality |
| 10:18.18 | Codayus | I use SCT, which does "low health" warnings...similar concept, I guess. Not as pretty though. :-) |
| 10:20.51 | Iriel | slacker 8-) |
| 10:21.34 | Tem | I know |
| 10:21.42 | Tem | I've been "working" on it all day |
| 10:21.47 | Tem | but I keep getting distracted |
| 10:21.53 | Tem | MC for like 6 hours |
| 10:22.02 | Tem | playing with EditBoxes for a few |
| 10:22.16 | Tem | oh and I stopped to eat once or twice |
| 10:22.36 | Tem | Then there was this period where I just zoned out and started at the screen for a while... |
| 10:22.44 | Anduin|DM | yay for zoning |
| 10:22.45 | Iriel | I spent some time doing that also |
| 10:22.48 | Iriel | the zoning |
| 10:23.13 | Tem | It's probably pretty common |
| 10:23.28 | Iriel | I find it happens a lot when I'm working on one thing for several hours |
| 10:23.34 | Iriel | if I mix it up, it's less common |
| 10:23.52 | Tem | one of those cases where the complexity of your own code gets away from you and it takes your brain like 10 minutes to catch up |
| 10:24.08 | Tem | "Oh, now I get why I did that" |
| 10:24.11 | Tem | >< |
| 10:24.22 | Anduin|DM | comments ftw |
| 10:24.29 | Iriel | I try and leave myself comments near those kinds of snippets |
| 10:24.39 | Iriel | or write down 'what i think I was doing' notes. |
| 10:24.49 | Anduin|DM | i need to menuize chatbar |
| 10:25.08 | Anduin|DM | gimem a list of things u do with channels |
| 10:25.32 | Iriel | If they're called "General" - I leave them |
| 10:25.42 | Iriel | Otherwise I pretty much ignore them |
| 10:25.47 | Tem | ditto |
| 10:25.49 | Iriel | other than guild and party |
| 10:26.24 | Tem | a sting.sub then a string compare would be faster than a regex, yes? |
| 10:26.37 | Iriel | dunno |
| 10:26.46 | Iriel | does the regex have any captures? |
| 10:27.09 | Tem | no |
| 10:27.10 | Iriel | if it does, then I suspect sub/compare will win |
| 10:27.17 | Iriel | if it doesn't, i'd probably want to test it |
| 10:27.40 | Iriel | pattern compilation versus string allocation |
| 10:27.48 | Anduin|DM | well what do u do with g an p? |
| 10:27.50 | Tem | it would be string.find("^"..text,name) |
| 10:28.01 | Anduin|DM | since chatbar has um all |
| 10:28.03 | Tem | (but I would probably make a local for that search string) |
| 10:28.13 | Iriel | I talk ong and p and read them 8-) |
| 10:28.14 | Tem | (to avoid repeated concatenation) |
| 10:28.30 | Anduin|DM | k, maybe i'll add visibility |
| 10:29.14 | Iriel | Anyway.. sleep for me |
| 10:29.28 | Iriel | Tem: Try using string.find in 'plain' mode |
| 10:29.36 | Ktron | enjoy Iriel, have a good one |
| 10:29.38 | Iriel | And check that the start position is character 1 |
| 10:29.41 | Tem | but I need the pattern to force it to be at the front |
| 10:29.49 | Tem | ah good point |
| 10:30.02 | Iriel | Just test the two against each other if you have time |
| 10:30.08 | Iriel | with input strings of varying annoyance |
| 10:30.17 | Iriel | (No match, match at the front, match near the end) |
| 10:30.26 | Iriel | I'd do it myself but I've gotta sleep 8-) |
| 10:30.33 | Tem | I understand |
| 10:30.48 | Tem | the dew is keeping me running for a bit longer |
| 10:31.02 | Iriel | see y'all on the flip side |
| 10:35.20 | Tem | Will UnitInRaid("player") tell you if the player is in a raid group? |
| 10:36.02 | Anduin|DM | UnitExists("raid1") |
| 10:36.16 | Tem | that's easy |
| 10:36.22 | Tem | thanks |
| 10:40.12 | Depherios | ugh... low level instances |
| 10:43.07 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:43.20 | Depherios | no tanking either then? D |
| 10:43.21 | Depherios | XD |
| 10:43.30 | Ktron | the nicest thing I'll do is get a mob off the healer |
| 10:43.32 | Ktron | heh |
| 10:44.12 | Ktron | heh |
| 10:44.16 | Ktron | either something is wrong |
| 10:44.29 | Ktron | this chatzilla plugin for firefox is using 621,416 K of memory |
| 10:44.35 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:44.38 | Depherios | wtf |
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| 10:45.13 | Tem | Is there an easy way to make string.find case insensitive? |
| 10:45.23 | Depherios | This was my best instance yet though XD... 1 good tank... 1 good healer... 3 idiots for DPS... Two who try, and one who thinks he's tough shit... |
| 10:45.24 | Tem | or do I need to go putting string.lowers in there |
| 10:45.49 | Depherios | god I need to get to endgame |
| 10:46.03 | Ktron | I don't care for endgame |
| 10:46.10 | Ktron | I don't have time to raid |
| 10:46.57 | Depherios | I do... on and off... I just want to do it, try it, have done it, go back to kicking ass in PvP |
| 10:47.19 | Ktron | PvP is fun |
| 10:47.27 | Tem | pvp sucks on my server |
| 10:47.29 | Depherios | I wish I was around before BGs :P |
| 10:47.38 | Ktron | why deph? |
| 10:47.46 | Depherios | more out of BG PvP |
| 10:47.51 | Depherios | I rarely run into it |
| 10:47.57 | Tem | the only horde that pvp are bwl geared people |
| 10:48.03 | Tem | so I die instantly |
| 10:48.08 | Depherios | lol that's what it's like on my server |
| 10:48.13 | Tem | it's a pointless waste of my time |
| 10:48.18 | Depherios | except it's the alliance that are over equiped |
| 10:48.20 | Ktron | but, heh, there wasn't much time before battlegrounds AND before honor |
| 10:49.00 | Ktron | that's why you do PvP before endgame heh |
| 10:49.13 | Codayus | Be kind of interesting if they managed to get cross-server BGs, then did matchmaking out of that pool to form evenly matched teams... |
| 10:49.18 | Ktron | I'd rather face a twinked level 20 or 30 than a twinked 60 any day |
| 10:49.37 | Ktron | Codayus: Wasn't that on the list of planned things for 1.9 or the expansion? |
| 10:49.40 | Codayus | Not that it'll happen... |
| 10:49.55 | Ktron | I think they had it on a 'to come' list somewhere |
| 10:50.05 | Ktron | I think with the expansion, unfortunately |
| 10:50.19 | Codayus | Ktron: There were rumors floating around, and I think someone connected to Bliz mentioned they'd like to do it. |
| 10:50.28 | Depherios | Blizz mentioned they'd like to do it |
| 10:50.31 | Depherios | it's on the list of things to do |
| 10:50.32 | Codayus | But AFAIK, it's not even slated for the expansion. |
| 10:50.34 | Depherios | I think it WAS going to be 1.9 |
| 10:50.41 | Depherios | but yeah |
| 10:51.14 | Codayus | It's on the list with hero classes and siege weapons and so on. There'll be a lot of problems to work out if they try... |
| 10:51.29 | Depherios | I don't want matched by difficulty |
| 10:51.35 | Depherios | I just want the first two teams to get together |
| 10:51.41 | Depherios | to play against each other XD |
| 10:51.55 | Codayus | ...why? |
| 10:51.56 | Depherios | so your team isn't waiting for your opposite faction |
| 10:52.05 | Ktron | yeah |
| 10:52.12 | Ktron | maybe 10seconds of matching people's levels |
| 10:52.14 | Ktron | than bam, go |
| 10:52.21 | Depherios | there will literally be a whole group sitting in front of the gate at AB |
| 10:52.25 | Depherios | WHOLE GROUP |
| 10:52.25 | Codayus | Well, if they do cross-server pvp, the pool of players in the queues should be truly massive. |
| 10:52.27 | Ktron | Big thing to remember though |
| 10:52.31 | Depherios | 15-20 people, enough to get in |
| 10:52.34 | Depherios | no game starting |
| 10:52.41 | Ktron | Will groups be comprimised of cross-server groups? |
| 10:52.44 | Depherios | ... no alliance in queue |
| 10:52.53 | Depherios | no... probably not, I'd hope not |
| 10:52.55 | Ktron | ie, people on different servers on the same team? |
| 10:52.59 | Depherios | I want to play with the people I know |
| 10:53.00 | Codayus | OTOH, if there's more alliance than horde around, there will be alliance who won't get to play, so... |
| 10:53.13 | Depherios | Codayus, PvP people pick horde more |
| 10:53.24 | Depherios | it's the ally side I wait for on Hyjal and Spinebreaker |
| 10:54.04 | Codayus | Depherios: Mmm, actually, I think that there's still more alliance than horde, even on pvp servers. |
| 10:54.07 | Depherios | Hyjal not so much... but Spinebreaker, it's always us waiting on allies, even if they're winning... we'll even join as a full raid group XD |
| 10:54.11 | Codayus | It's just not quite as unbalanced. |
| 10:54.17 | pagefault | the horde is not much of a horde |
| 10:54.18 | Depherios | I'm not saying it's not that way Codayus |
| 10:54.18 | Ktron | Depherios: if you think about it though, it would drastically speed things along if they let people from different servers on the same team |
| 10:54.24 | Ktron | it'd be a TREMENDOUS increase |
| 10:54.35 | pagefault | they should rename to |
| 10:54.37 | Depherios | yes ktron, but that takes the "server" point out to a degree |
| 10:54.38 | Codayus | Depherios: Oh, you were just talking about your server? |
| 10:54.47 | Depherios | yes Codayus, and others as well |
| 10:54.49 | pagefault | "the alliance of ugly races that little kids don't like to play" |
| 10:54.57 | Depherios | when I said PvP people I didn't mean "pvp server" people |
| 10:55.02 | Ktron | Depherios: isn't that point of making BG's cross-server? making the server point irrelevant? |
| 10:55.04 | Depherios | I meant people who sit around in queue XD |
| 10:55.06 | Codayus | Depherios: Oh, right. |
| 10:55.15 | Depherios | people who want to PvE instead of PvP |
| 10:55.27 | Depherios | Alliance all want to do instances... horde wants to go kill alliance XD |
| 10:55.27 | Codayus | Yeah, cross-server pvp would A.) Completely ruin the entire point of honor and rank, as it stands. B.) Make battlegrounds work so much better I think. :-) |
| 10:55.45 | Ktron | Codayus: why would it ruin honor? |
| 10:55.48 | Depherios | I'd be happiest with my team, vs the first team to form on another server |
| 10:56.10 | Depherios | killing the same gnome mage I've killed 8 times today... will no longer happen |
| 10:56.35 | Ktron | Depherios: you could join the BG as a group and end up together |
| 10:56.37 | Codayus | Ktron: Because as it stands, it's supposed to be a measure of how good you are compared to others on your server. Gaining honor from a kill of someone on a different server wouldn't really make conceptual sense. (Of course, actually it's just a measure of how many hours per week you burn grinding BGs, but nevermind.) |
| 10:56.43 | Depherios | yup |
| 10:57.03 | Depherios | Honor + BG = dumb XD |
| 10:57.13 | Codayus | At least as I understand Bliz's stated ideas behind honor and rank, cross-server BGs break it. But the idea is already broken, so I'm not worried. |
| 10:57.30 | Depherios | I meet most the good players I know through BGs though XD |
| 10:57.37 | Ktron | Codayus: yeah, honor is much more a measure of how often you spend PvPing, and how good you are at it, not really any comparison |
| 10:57.43 | Depherios | I meet some in PvE but yeah... |
| 10:57.58 | Codayus | Ktron: Yeah. :-/ |
| 10:58.02 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:58.09 | Depherios | some of the highest ranking people I've seen... suck at WoW |
| 10:58.21 | Depherios | they're 12 year olds with nothing better to do |
| 10:58.24 | Codayus | There's a field marshal on my server who is...erm... |
| 10:58.27 | Codayus | Yeah, exactly. |
| 10:58.30 | Depherios | I had one guy... rank 10 |
| 10:58.34 | Depherios | ... ask me how I levitated |
| 10:58.46 | Ktron | if it doesn't allow for players on different servers to be on the same team, I'll be disappointed... truthfully, otherwise it'll at best be a time decrease by a factor of 2 |
| 10:59.01 | Ktron | (since you'll need to wait for 1/2 as many people on a server) |
| 10:59.20 | Codayus | He got kicked out of multiple pve raiding guilds for being an ass, so decided he'd grind BGs instead. Did it in a scarily short period of time. oO |
| 10:59.24 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:59.32 | Ktron | and since it can be hours on some server, it'll still be almost impossible to get in at certain levels |
| 10:59.55 | Codayus | *nod* really need to allow cross-server teams I think. |
| 11:00.00 | Depherios | yeah :P |
| 11:00.04 | Depherios | you're right, as much as I hate it |
| 11:00.05 | Codayus | But you'd want to seperate pve and pvp realms, of course. |
| 11:00.12 | Depherios | but I'll hate having to figure out who's an idiot in game |
| 11:00.17 | Depherios | right now, BG starts |
| 11:00.21 | Depherios | and I know who's a moron XD |
| 11:00.24 | Ktron | Codayus: maybe... I'm not sure if that'd be necessary or not |
| 11:00.26 | pagefault | can I get a PS/2 keyboard to USB adaptor |
| 11:00.30 | pagefault | and how much do they cost approx? |
| 11:00.37 | Depherios | yes, expensive though (12 bucks) |
| 11:00.37 | Ktron | Another BIG call, right now you can trade in BGs |
| 11:00.44 | Depherios | well... 8-12 |
| 11:00.45 | pagefault | damn |
| 11:00.54 | Ktron | they'll have to disable that if they're going to allow cross-server teams |
| 11:00.57 | pagefault | I want to use my wireless keyboard on the same computer as my normal one |
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| 11:01.06 | Depherios | wait |
| 11:01.08 | pagefault | but I don't have two ps/2 ports obviously :) |
| 11:01.09 | Depherios | PS2 to USB? |
| 11:01.09 | Codayus | Ktron: Oh, right. Yeah |
| 11:01.12 | Depherios | that's cheap |
| 11:01.14 | pagefault | yeah |
| 11:01.17 | Depherios | USB to PS2 is expensive XD |
| 11:01.24 | pagefault | oh yeah |
| 11:01.25 | pagefault | I don't need that |
| 11:01.34 | Depherios | PS2 to USB comes with a lot of keyboards... I have no idea how cheap it is... probably a buck or two at most |
| 11:01.44 | pagefault | well |
| 11:01.50 | pagefault | I don't think it would be good to splice the PS/2 connection |
| 11:01.55 | pagefault | even if I gave it the correct voltage |
| 11:01.56 | Ktron | heh, otherwise, everyone would give their alt like 2023902 gold, and when a new server starts, get a friend and try to end up in the same BG, and then hand it over |
| 11:02.01 | pagefault | I am sure it would not be happy |
| 11:02.08 | Depherios | or am I backwards? |
| 11:02.09 | Depherios | I FORGET |
| 11:02.25 | pagefault | no it's USB to PS/2 for mice |
| 11:02.29 | pagefault | I have like 5 of those |
| 11:02.32 | Codayus | Well, Bliz is going to allow cross-server transfers. |
| 11:02.46 | Depherios | PS/2 to USB is expensive.... but not much... 6.45 |
| 11:02.54 | pagefault | bleh |
| 11:02.54 | pagefault | pennies |
| 11:02.56 | Ktron | Codayus: really? between any server and another? |
| 11:02.56 | Depherios | oh here's 4.99 XD |
| 11:02.59 | Codayus | So cross-server trading isn't entirely weird. But still, I'm sure they'll disable it. |
| 11:03.00 | pagefault | cheaper than WoW :) |
| 11:03.07 | Codayus | Ktron: Yeah, for $40 a go, apparently. |
| 11:03.19 | pagefault | I will not transfer for $40 |
| 11:03.20 | Codayus | Cheaper than EQ did it. |
| 11:03.23 | pagefault | unless I get like 1000 bonus gold with it |
| 11:03.34 | pagefault | because thats what I can pay for a new char |
| 11:03.36 | pagefault | with that much gold |
| 11:03.57 | pagefault | they must relise this |
| 11:05.08 | Depherios | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=0&type=&description=ps%2F2+usb&Category=0&minPrice=&maxPrice=&Go.x=0&Go.y=0 |
| 11:05.11 | Depherios | yay newegg |
| 11:05.37 | pagefault | not that I would support such a thing like gold farming |
| 11:05.43 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:06.01 | Codayus | Hmm, hadn't thought of it that way. |
| 11:06.07 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:06.19 | pagefault | well i'm just saying |
| 11:06.20 | pagefault | make a level 1 |
| 11:06.22 | pagefault | pay for 1000 gold |
| 11:06.23 | pagefault | and go from there |
| 11:06.34 | Codayus | Hmm, lvl 60 druid, 7/8 wildheart, epic mount, 159 gold - $550. |
| 11:06.34 | Codayus | .... |
| 11:06.36 | Codayus | That's absurd. |
| 11:06.40 | pagefault | haha |
| 11:06.45 | Depherios | absurd how? |
| 11:06.46 | pagefault | selling actual accounts |
| 11:06.50 | pagefault | you don't even get to pick the name |
| 11:06.54 | Depherios | that's cheap for the amount of time put into it XD |
| 11:07.07 | Depherios | yeah really you're named "Analprobe" and everybody hates you because you're a dick |
| 11:07.08 | pagefault | what about all the people who know this person |
| 11:07.18 | pagefault | he's pry a ninja |
| 11:07.23 | Depherios | yup |
| 11:07.25 | pagefault | to get the gear as fast as possible |
| 11:07.30 | Codayus | I'd be amused to know the names of the chars being sold on this list. |
| 11:07.39 | Codayus | I wonder what % are already on my ignore list. |
| 11:07.45 | Depherios | a lot of the characters on those lists are sold by people just quitting XD |
| 11:07.47 | pagefault | what amuses me more is people who do this for a living |
| 11:07.54 | Ktron | I was told Zul'jin was notorious for these kinds of sales |
| 11:07.55 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:08.00 | pagefault | they must not make much cash for the amount of time they put into it |
| 11:08.01 | Ktron | (my original server) |
| 11:08.03 | pagefault | I mean think about it |
| 11:08.10 | Codayus | Lvl 37 rogue with 192 leatherworking - $149.95. oO |
| 11:08.11 | Depherios | where they come from pagefault... they do |
| 11:08.11 | pagefault | level 60 with that is about what? 20 days of work? |
| 11:08.15 | Ktron | pagefault: it depends where they live |
| 11:08.20 | pagefault | so 20 days 24 hours in a day |
| 11:08.21 | Ktron | and what game |
| 11:08.22 | pagefault | do the math |
| 11:08.24 | pagefault | how much an hour is that |
| 11:08.26 | Depherios | no page |
| 11:08.28 | Depherios | split it up |
| 11:08.29 | Ktron | at EQ, people were making __good__ money |
| 11:08.30 | Depherios | two men |
| 11:08.33 | Depherios | 12 hours each |
| 11:08.47 | pagefault | i'm going by the /timeplayed thing |
| 11:09.15 | pagefault | that is a pretty accurate representation of what time was used |
| 11:09.29 | Depherios | yah |
| 11:09.42 | pagefault | I dunno |
| 11:09.44 | pagefault | I think it's crazy |
| 11:09.49 | pagefault | whats the point of buying a complete character |
| 11:09.53 | pagefault | no fun in that |
| 11:09.59 | Depherios | nope |
| 11:10.02 | Depherios | the money isn't in it either |
| 11:10.07 | Depherios | the money is in gold |
| 11:10.09 | pagefault | someone one asked me if I bought my account |
| 11:10.12 | pagefault | because he thought my gear was good |
| 11:10.17 | pagefault | err once |
| 11:10.18 | Ktron | I've got like 3 1/2 days on my third main... I'm checking the other two... btw, did anyone ever finish the addon to add up and find a total time played? |
| 11:10.19 | Codayus | ... |
| 11:10.31 | Depherios | Iriel said she made one |
| 11:10.40 | Depherios | I'm going to make my own at some point, since I need to learn how to parse |
| 11:10.47 | Ktron | 4 1/2 days on my second main... time to check the last heh |
| 11:10.55 | norganna | i've been accused of buying my account once :) |
| 11:10.55 | pagefault | oh damn |
| 11:10.58 | pagefault | you guys are fast at leveling |
| 11:11.05 | Depherios | lol, I'm bloody slow |
| 11:11.05 | pagefault | i'm a slowpoke |
| 11:11.13 | Ktron | oh, they aren't 60 |
| 11:11.22 | Depherios | my main has I think... 18 days... level 38 XD |
| 11:11.28 | Ktron | 3 1/2 days and I'm 28, 4 1/2 days and I'm 31 |
| 11:11.31 | Codayus | Bah, now I've got to check mine. |
| 11:11.32 | Depherios | no, has to be 19 days by now |
| 11:11.34 | pagefault | I know some people get to 60 in 20 days |
| 11:11.49 | norganna | no lives |
| 11:11.50 | Depherios | you can do it really fast if you know what you're doing |
| 11:12.21 | Ktron | My highest character is 57, 24 days 20 hours |
| 11:12.38 | Tem | Depherios: just for your own knowledge, Iriel is a guy |
| 11:12.42 | Tem | ~iriel |
| 11:12.44 | Ktron | so... 3.5 + 4.5 + 25 = 33 days of my life |
| 11:12.51 | Ktron | ignoring all my alts |
| 11:12.54 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:13.02 | Depherios | Sorry Tem... habit... I know |
| 11:13.05 | Tem | hah, I'm up to like 75 days on my main |
| 11:13.27 | Ktron | what day did WoW come out? |
| 11:13.33 | Depherios | I'm the ONLY PERSON probably, online, who's more used to talking to she's than he's XD and the fem avatar everywhere + that = *sigh* |
| 11:13.36 | Codayus | Let's see...lvl 60 rogue, 17 days 10 hours /played |
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| 11:13.49 | Codayus | Er, to get to 60. |
| 11:14.05 | pfault | yay for freenode |
| 11:14.09 | Tem | lol it took me 30 days to get to 60 |
| 11:14.14 | Ktron | 11/23 WoW started, I had my account the first day |
| 11:14.15 | pagefault | so |
| 11:14.18 | pagefault | was it confirmed $40 |
| 11:14.21 | Codayus | Rogues level fast. <shrug> |
| 11:14.22 | pagefault | or is that still rumors |
| 11:14.33 | Tem | well, I spent a buttload of time dueling |
| 11:14.40 | Ktron | heh |
| 11:14.40 | Codayus | pagefault: quasi-confirmed, not officially announced. |
| 11:14.41 | Depherios | rumors... it'll be a hefty sum though, to try to stop farming |
| 11:14.50 | pagefault | the mana classes probably are the slowest to level |
| 11:14.53 | Tem | I probably could have hit 60 in half that time if I hadn't dueled so much |
| 11:14.55 | pagefault | since you have to stop for mana obviously |
| 11:15.01 | Depherios | priest and druid = slow |
| 11:15.05 | Depherios | mage = not so slow |
| 11:15.08 | Tem | Mages level fast |
| 11:15.10 | Depherios | you have to wait, but you kill fast |
| 11:15.13 | Ktron | 383 days of WoW heh |
| 11:15.14 | Tem | exactly |
| 11:15.16 | Ktron | let's see... |
| 11:15.18 | Depherios | warlocks have pets |
| 11:15.19 | Tem | wow Ktron |
| 11:15.28 | Tem | but warlocks kill slow |
| 11:15.28 | pagefault | warlock quests are insane though |
| 11:15.31 | Depherios | its' just the priests and druids... druids mostly because they end up in bear form a lot... just taking hits |
| 11:15.35 | pagefault | it's like get me 32949348 of these |
| 11:15.38 | pagefault | and 998234984 of those |
| 11:15.38 | Depherios | kill slow, but no downtime |
| 11:15.42 | pagefault | and fight a level 50 elite |
| 11:15.49 | pagefault | and then we will talk about getting that robe you wanted |
| 11:15.59 | Tem | hah |
| 11:16.04 | Depherios | priests have high spirit, and spirit tap helps... but yeah... down time :P or WANDING things to death... is usually what I do |
| 11:16.06 | Ktron | wait, time to adjust for WoWs up time |
| 11:16.23 | Ktron | we'll pretend they take 3 hours down a week? or should I say 4? |
| 11:16.24 | pagefault | I have no clue what the pally epic mount quest is like |
| 11:16.31 | pagefault | but the warlock one is really a pain |
| 11:16.40 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:16.53 | pagefault | have to 5 man scholo |
| 11:16.59 | pagefault | which is hard just finding a group for that |
| 11:17.17 | pagefault | stupid bliz |
| 11:17.22 | Depherios | which reminds me... it's 80g for mount? XD |
| 11:17.34 | pagefault | lower if you have better rep :) |
| 11:17.43 | Depherios | I mean for both |
| 11:17.44 | Ktron | approximately 374 days of uptime for WoW I believe |
| 11:17.46 | Depherios | mount+train |
| 11:17.50 | Codayus | Let's see...lvl 60 priest, 15 days even /played to get to 60. |
| 11:17.53 | pagefault | honestly I don't understand how people afford those 900g epic mounts |
| 11:17.53 | Codayus | That's interesting. |
| 11:17.58 | Tem | /sleep |
| 11:18.01 | pagefault | I have problems keeping 100g |
| 11:18.09 | Codayus | I lvled my priest much faster than my rogue... |
| 11:18.24 | Ktron | That puts me at... just over 8.8% of the time those servers were up, online, ignoring alts |
| 11:18.24 | Codayus | And I thought rogues were supposed to be fast. :-) |
| 11:18.33 | Depherios | lol... my GF has no problem with money... she's an herbalist miner... and has like... 140g at level 39 XD |
| 11:18.34 | pagefault | rogues are fast |
| 11:18.36 | pagefault | and do it from behind |
| 11:18.55 | Depherios | Priests level faster at higher levels |
| 11:18.57 | Depherios | ... so I dunno |
| 11:18.58 | Codayus | Mind you, I could use my rogue to grind for funds and stuff, so that helped. But still... I <3 shadow spec. |
| 11:19.02 | Depherios | I kill bugs dead now |
| 11:19.02 | Ktron | Tem you were at like 75 days? |
| 11:19.13 | pagefault | silly priests and their shadow |
| 11:19.21 | pagefault | I don't understand why NE priests get shadowform |
| 11:19.22 | Depherios | lol yes... Shadow Spec is why I play priest when I'm a PvP person... even though I know I'll suck at endgame XD |
| 11:19.26 | pagefault | thats like totally against anything the NE is about |
| 11:19.35 | Depherios | I might just start another priest over when I hit 60 lol |
| 11:19.53 | Codayus | Well, undead priests can heal, soo... :-) |
| 11:19.59 | pagefault | shadow magic is dipping into the evil undead magic is it not? |
| 11:20.01 | Depherios | undead priests aren't dead though |
| 11:20.11 | Codayus | But yeah, I keep fighting the urge to lvl another healer to 60. |
| 11:20.12 | Depherios | ... what I want to know is how do Trolls practice HOLY magic |
| 11:20.15 | Depherios | when they're all VOODOO |
| 11:20.15 | Ktron | tem|slee: Tem, you win! you're just over 20% with your main, ie 20% of the time WoW was up, you were on that character |
| 11:20.15 | Codayus | Er, another priest |
| 11:20.26 | pagefault | not all of them are |
| 11:20.31 | pagefault | some of them say "Stay away from the voodoo" |
| 11:20.31 | Ktron | anyone else want to get a quick calculation? |
| 11:20.33 | pagefault | while some say |
| 11:20.37 | pagefault | "Come get the voodoo" |
| 11:20.40 | pagefault | so it's split I think |
| 11:20.51 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:21.06 | Depherios | oh crap I have to sleep |
| 11:21.09 | Depherios | bad |
| 11:21.10 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:21.10 | pagefault | amount of voodoo varies from troll to troll |
| 11:21.12 | Ktron | same here |
| 11:21.41 | Ktron | I wonder what the 'oldest' any character is |
| 11:21.52 | pagefault | what do shadow priests cast in shadowform anyway |
| 11:21.59 | pagefault | besides the obvious SW:Pain |
| 11:22.24 | Ktron | night |
| 11:22.25 | pagefault | is there a shadow version of smite? |
| 11:22.26 | Ktron | purl, night |
| 11:22.28 | purl | G'night ktron, get out of here. |
| 11:22.32 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:22.39 | Depherios | mind flay is a Shadow Priest's best friend |
| 11:22.42 | pagefault | I have no idea how priests work :) |
| 11:22.45 | Depherios | XD |
| 11:22.47 | Depherios | I can tell XD |
| 11:22.53 | Depherios | I have no idea how rogues work, so... |
| 11:23.00 | Depherios | you're on the better foot |
| 11:23.08 | pagefault | I just know I can get your "shadowform" by simply saccing my succubus :) |
| 11:23.34 | Depherios | shadow spells are a priests only attacks besides smite if you're not shadow specced |
| 11:23.44 | Depherios | you should learn about shadow weaving if you don't already know ^_^ |
| 11:23.46 | pagefault | how boring |
| 11:23.58 | pagefault | so all they do is throw weak spells at them |
| 11:24.00 | pagefault | while healing> |
| 11:24.08 | Depherios | ?? |
| 11:24.14 | pagefault | if you are a holy priest |
| 11:24.18 | Depherios | yup |
| 11:24.20 | Depherios | you get smite |
| 11:24.23 | Depherios | and holy fire |
| 11:24.26 | Depherios | both of which suck |
| 11:24.28 | pagefault | no wonder so many go shadow |
| 11:24.33 | Depherios | well... smite is mediocre, but holy fire sucks |
| 11:24.44 | Depherios | well mind blast is ALWAYS there |
| 11:24.47 | Depherios | but it's a shadow spell |
| 11:24.54 | pagefault | it's crap you get an aoe shadow spell |
| 11:24.54 | Depherios | and if you're not shadow specced it has an 8 second cooldown |
| 11:25.04 | pagefault | warlocks are supposed to be the master of shadow |
| 11:25.06 | pagefault | and we got crap |
| 11:25.08 | tem|slee | holy fire is amusing |
| 11:25.11 | Depherios | we get an AoE one? |
| 11:25.16 | Depherios | ... did I miss something? |
| 11:25.22 | pagefault | well |
| 11:25.22 | tem|slee | it's like the biggest agro move in the game |
| 11:25.27 | pagefault | not aoe |
| 11:25.28 | Depherios | Priests don't have AoE O_o |
| 11:25.29 | pagefault | whats it called |
| 11:25.31 | tem|slee | and does like no damage |
| 11:25.32 | SP|Sorren | hiya all, who here knows a lot about lua tables 8) |
| 11:25.34 | tem|slee | Holy Nova? |
| 11:25.41 | pagefault | vampiric embrace |
| 11:25.44 | pagefault | that is pretty cool |
| 11:25.50 | Depherios | yes, yes it is |
| 11:25.54 | Depherios | Holy Nova, I've never tried |
| 11:25.58 | tem|sleep | SP|Sorren: what do you need to know? |
| 11:26.02 | Depherios | I hadn't even considered it, I'd forgotten it does damage XD |
| 11:26.04 | pagefault | I have a weak ass channeled drain health spell |
| 11:26.05 | tem|sleep | maybe I can help before I head off |
| 11:26.09 | pagefault | follow the green line to your easy kill |
| 11:26.09 | pagefault | :) |
| 11:26.13 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:26.17 | Depherios | that's what mind flay is page XD |
| 11:26.28 | pagefault | yeah but yours is blue |
| 11:26.29 | Depherios | follow the line... but when they come, they move at 50% speed |
| 11:26.31 | pagefault | thats a better colour |
| 11:26.34 | Codayus | Holy Nova is just...meh. |
| 11:26.39 | Codayus | Mind flay rocks though. |
| 11:26.40 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:26.45 | Depherios | Mind flay is a priests best friend |
| 11:26.46 | Codayus | Priest/lock combos can duo together well. |
| 11:26.49 | Depherios | yes |
| 11:26.53 | pagefault | yes you desire our CoS |
| 11:26.55 | Depherios | Shadow Weaving FTW |
| 11:27.03 | pagefault | I like shadow priests |
| 11:27.06 | pagefault | because our debuff's stack |
| 11:27.13 | SP|Sorren | tem: i want to know if i have a table like table[ |
| 11:27.14 | Depherios | yup |
| 11:27.14 | SP|Sorren | er |
| 11:27.19 | MoonWolf | -100 shadow resistance ftw |
| 11:27.20 | SP|Sorren | table["blue"] = {}; |
| 11:27.28 | pagefault | 10% in 1.9 |
| 11:27.32 | pagefault | :( |
| 11:27.34 | SP|Sorren | then table["blue"]["green"] = "teal"; |
| 11:27.38 | pagefault | oh well |
| 11:27.42 | pagefault | just no neg resistance |
| 11:27.44 | SP|Sorren | if i can show the blue or in a for look |
| 11:27.45 | SP|Sorren | er |
| 11:27.46 | SP|Sorren | loop |
| 11:27.53 | pagefault | I think the new one is better though |
| 11:27.54 | SP|Sorren | have it print out in the for loop |
| 11:28.00 | Codayus | Shadow Weaving can add an awful lot of damage, yeah. Now if only vampiric embrace worked on ANY shadow damage done to the target... |
| 11:28.01 | Depherios | +120 shadow resistance FTW <--? |
| 11:28.07 | pagefault | you get more consistant damage with a +dmg curse than a vulnerability bonus |
| 11:28.13 | tem|sleep | you mean a recursive traversal to hit all subtables? |
| 11:28.27 | pagefault | man |
| 11:28.27 | SP|Sorren | yah |
| 11:28.30 | SP|Sorren | and print the subtable names |
| 11:28.36 | pagefault | soul link succubus + that = 23% bonus shadow |
| 11:28.40 | tem|sleep | yeah that's pretty easy |
| 11:28.42 | Depherios | I'd just be happy if VE worked with mana burn |
| 11:28.44 | pagefault | if I was crazy and dropped all destro talents |
| 11:28.45 | SP|Sorren | really? |
| 11:28.49 | SP|Sorren | 8) |
| 11:28.55 | pagefault | and went SM in affliction that could be 33% bonus shadow damage |
| 11:28.57 | pagefault | thats crazy |
| 11:29.16 | Depherios | least you don't have to respec for PvE page XD |
| 11:29.30 | pagefault | well I was affliction before |
| 11:29.37 | pagefault | now I am all demonology and a bit of distro |
| 11:29.58 | pagefault | I don't think I could not put points in destro though |
| 11:29.59 | tem|sleep | local f = function (t) for k,v in t do if(type(t) == "table")then print(k) f(v) end end |
| 11:30.05 | pagefault | I cannot live with a 3.5 second shadow bolt |
| 11:30.20 | tem|sleep | add an end to that |
| 11:30.24 | tem|sleep | local f = function (t) for k,v in t do if(type(t) == "table")then print(k) f(v) end end end |
| 11:30.39 | pagefault | would be ganked before you cast it |
| 11:30.39 | pagefault | hehe |
| 11:30.58 | SP|Sorren | that'll only print the endvalues right? |
| 11:31.01 | SP|Sorren | not the actual table names? |
| 11:31.07 | Depherios | at least at 3.5 seconds you get the full +damage |
| 11:31.09 | tem|sleep | t = {} t.blue = {} t.blue.teal = {} f(t) |
| 11:31.13 | tem|sleep | will print |
| 11:31.19 | pagefault | man |
| 11:31.25 | pagefault | that build with MC gear |
| 11:31.25 | tem|sleep | "blue" and "teal" |
| 11:31.26 | Depherios | mine are 1.5 second cast, and channeled... no full bonus to my two main damage spells |
| 11:31.31 | pagefault | 1000+ shadow bolts |
| 11:31.45 | pagefault | but extremely slow casting |
| 11:31.46 | SP|Sorren | ooooooh |
| 11:31.52 | SP|Sorren | ive been thinking of it all wrong |
| 11:31.56 | SP|Sorren | i need another beer. |
| 11:31.59 | Depherios | slow casting good... +damage = max XD |
| 11:32.00 | SP|Sorren | thanks! |
| 11:32.07 | pagefault | sucks in pvp |
| 11:32.09 | pagefault | good for instances |
| 11:32.17 | tem|sleep | later everyone |
| 11:32.19 | SP|Sorren | <3 |
| 11:32.20 | SP|Sorren | lates |
| 11:32.23 | SP|Sorren | thanks for the help |
| 11:32.23 | Depherios | lol... my main attack is channeled... even worse XD |
| 11:32.25 | Depherios | G'night! |
| 11:32.28 | pagefault | i'm getting +dmg gear for searing pain |
| 11:32.35 | pagefault | I am going the cheezy druid way |
| 11:32.40 | pagefault | and spam moonfire but instead it is soulfire |
| 11:32.41 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:32.44 | pagefault | err searing pain |
| 11:32.58 | pagefault | it works well |
| 11:33.13 | pagefault | I almost never use SB unless it's like a ranged attack |
| 11:33.39 | pagefault | plus it's tricky too |
| 11:33.47 | pagefault | because priests will buff their shadow protection thing |
| 11:33.49 | pagefault | but I will be attacking with fire :) |
| 11:34.03 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:34.22 | Depherios | I'm like, the only priest I've seen who keeps shadow protection up all the time on myself XD |
| 11:34.26 | Depherios | saved my arse a few times |
| 11:34.30 | pagefault | silly not to |
| 11:34.38 | pagefault | I am pissed pally's can banish demons now though |
| 11:34.42 | Depherios | the worst, are priests who don't keep inner fire up |
| 11:34.55 | Depherios | well Druids have been putting hunter pets to sleep for ages XD |
| 11:34.58 | Depherios | so join the club |
| 11:35.07 | pagefault | at least they can escape them |
| 11:35.35 | pagefault | I will try to fear them off but it takes about 4 seconds to cast a 1.5 second cast because of all the damn fast attacks and auto shot |
| 11:35.47 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:35.50 | pagefault | and by that time the pet is probably a BW hunter's pet so the fear fails |
| 11:35.54 | Depherios | biggest reason I like priests... |
| 11:35.55 | pagefault | and I just sit there and get ganked |
| 11:35.57 | Depherios | PW:Shield |
| 11:36.05 | pagefault | I hate that thing |
| 11:36.20 | Depherios | I think I'll be more excited to get the -15 second debuff than I am about shadowform XD |
| 11:36.21 | pagefault | have to waste mana before I can actually get to killing you |
| 11:36.36 | pagefault | unless I have the felhunter out |
| 11:36.38 | pagefault | but normally not |
| 11:36.51 | Depherios | at least you can fear all you awnt |
| 11:36.58 | pagefault | I love how they eat buffs |
| 11:37.05 | Depherios | 26 second cooldown D: |
| 11:37.14 | pagefault | for fear |
| 11:37.15 | pagefault | ? |
| 11:37.56 | Depherios | yup |
| 11:37.56 | Depherios | my fear |
| 11:37.56 | pagefault | well devour magic is about that long too |
| 11:37.56 | pagefault | no talents to make it faster |
| 11:37.56 | pagefault | spell lock is on like a 2 minute cooldown |
| 11:37.56 | Depherios | yeah... silence is something bad... I forget |
| 11:38.19 | pagefault | I usually use the succubus for the dmg bonus and seduce |
| 11:38.25 | pagefault | but the felhuner would give me +60 to all magic |
| 11:38.27 | pagefault | resistance |
| 11:39.08 | pagefault | I just want that damn pally shield to be dispellable |
| 11:39.09 | Depherios | I still think it's funny how much using Levitate in AB freaks people out |
| 11:39.12 | Depherios | YES |
| 11:39.16 | Depherios | PLEASE DISPELL SHIELD D: |
| 11:39.22 | Depherios | want bad :F |
| 11:39.32 | pagefault | I usually devour their crappy seal buffs |
| 11:39.46 | pagefault | or whatever they are |
| 11:39.53 | pagefault | not sure, I just know the felhunter gets hungry from pally's |
| 11:39.55 | Depherios | I cast dispel on every pally I see now, before they raise the cost XD |
| 11:39.56 | pagefault | it heals a lot :) |
| 11:40.21 | Depherios | I go into PvP, and hit them with rank two dispell at least twice |
| 11:40.29 | Depherios | and be like HAH SUCKER |
| 11:40.32 | pagefault | I wish they would just give the pally a more useful ability |
| 11:40.34 | pagefault | and take away the shield |
| 11:40.37 | pagefault | make them more powerful |
| 11:40.38 | pagefault | whatever |
| 11:40.38 | Depherios | GONNA WHINE TO BLIZZ SOME MORE |
| 11:40.44 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:40.47 | pagefault | I just hate the shield, because it's so cheap and does nothing |
| 11:40.56 | Depherios | I just want it to be short enough... that they can't hearth |
| 11:40.58 | Depherios | that's all I ask |
| 11:41.09 | Depherios | I'm so... tired... of hearthing pallies |
| 11:41.10 | pagefault | hehe |
| 11:41.11 | pagefault | I just hate the shield, because it's so cheap and does nothing |
| 11:41.12 | pagefault | what |
| 11:41.13 | pagefault | in duels |
| 11:41.15 | pagefault | or on pvp |
| 11:41.23 | Depherios | pvp XD |
| 11:41.25 | Depherios | I don't duel much |
| 11:41.27 | pagefault | ah |
| 11:41.32 | pagefault | well in BG I hate it |
| 11:41.37 | Depherios | would rather join a BG or watch World Defense |
| 11:41.39 | pagefault | all they do is get to 100 hp left, shield, heal |
| 11:41.45 | pagefault | and I stand there watching them as I bandage |
| 11:41.49 | pagefault | and we start over all over again |
| 11:41.50 | Depherios | ... that's all I do XD |
| 11:42.02 | Depherios | well no |
| 11:42.07 | Depherios | I heal earlier, because yeah :P |
| 11:42.11 | Depherios | my shield sucks in comparison |
| 11:42.27 | pagefault | I mean the only thing it does it make them last longer |
| 11:42.28 | pagefault | only to lose anyway |
| 11:42.30 | Depherios | I just try to mana burn them before their health gets low XD |
| 11:42.37 | Depherios | if they're dumb I can mana burn their whole pool away XD |
| 11:42.44 | pagefault | haha |
| 11:42.54 | Depherios | then they go to sheild and go WTF and they die |
| 11:42.57 | pagefault | sometimes rogues hit me with something (I think rogues) it drains all my mana |
| 11:42.59 | pagefault | it's nasty |
| 11:43.11 | Depherios | O_o never gotten that, but I'm only 38 |
| 11:43.18 | pagefault | it's some poison or something |
| 11:43.23 | Depherios | ouch |
| 11:43.31 | pagefault | only had it used a few times on me |
| 11:43.39 | pagefault | but it drained like almost all my mana |
| 11:44.03 | Depherios | mana burn is so useful on pallies and shaman... only useful on dumb druids though :P |
| 11:44.12 | pagefault | druids are the hardest for me to kill as of 1.8 |
| 11:44.18 | Depherios | ditto >:P |
| 11:44.34 | pagefault | they just do their animal shifty thing and there goes all my nice curses/dots |
| 11:44.34 | Depherios | too survivable... they shift into bear, and I can't do any damage, then when I finally do they shift out and heal |
| 11:44.49 | Depherios | DoTs stay through a shfit... O_o |
| 11:44.54 | Depherios | they can remove your curses though |
| 11:44.55 | pagefault | thats new |
| 11:45.03 | pagefault | oh |
| 11:45.13 | pagefault | I can't seduce them either in their animal form |
| 11:45.17 | Depherios | no... always have... they're taking otu all your curses... the magic debuffs stay though |
| 11:45.38 | pagefault | can they heal in dire bear form? |
| 11:45.43 | pagefault | it looks like they can use rage to heal or something |
| 11:45.46 | Depherios | yeah |
| 11:45.49 | Depherios | there's a talent |
| 11:45.53 | pagefault | rage to heal sucks |
| 11:45.54 | Depherios | that lets them burn rage to heal |
| 11:46.04 | Depherios | I just give up |
| 11:46.09 | Depherios | know what I do against a druid? |
| 11:46.15 | pagefault | run? |
| 11:46.20 | norganna | hehe run :) |
| 11:46.32 | Depherios | ... I hit them with my staff... and heal, fear, and shield, until they get tired of me and go away |
| 11:46.48 | pagefault | on my server there is this really annoying drui |
| 11:46.50 | pagefault | druid |
| 11:46.54 | pagefault | it's like she is entirely scripted |
| 11:47.10 | pagefault | as soon as I place a curse on her, shapeshift to something and then back again |
| 11:47.19 | pagefault | and she heals like instantly as soon as I hit her with something |
| 11:47.26 | Depherios | my GF plays a damn good Druid... so I know if they know what I'm doing I'm screwed... |
| 11:47.34 | Depherios | no... just druid :P |
| 11:47.39 | Depherios | she does the same shit |
| 11:47.43 | pagefault | it's annoying |
| 11:47.47 | Depherios | shifts out to heal so fast I can't even silence her |
| 11:47.56 | pagefault | they need some cooldown |
| 11:47.57 | Depherios | and of course I can't silence the rage heal :P |
| 11:48.06 | pagefault | i'd feel pretty messed up if I changed form like that |
| 11:48.12 | Depherios | lol |
| 11:48.20 | pagefault | oh well |
| 11:48.22 | pagefault | I don't mind druids |
| 11:48.23 | Depherios | they have troubles with non spellcasters page, don't worry XD |
| 11:48.25 | pagefault | I just hate pally's |
| 11:48.30 | pagefault | just like the alliance hates shaman |
| 11:48.30 | Depherios | PvP in WoW is like paper rock scissors XD |
| 11:48.42 | Depherios | some classes are cake, others are hard XD |
| 11:48.54 | MoonWolf | keep telling yourself that dep, keep telling yourself that. |
| 11:49.04 | pagefault | I might roll my next char on a pvp serverf |
| 11:49.06 | Depherios | lol, it's true... depending on your class |
| 11:49.11 | pagefault | but it will be something that I can survive with |
| 11:49.22 | pagefault | like a rogue or like shaman |
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| 11:50.09 | Depherios | only classes I have trouble with are warlocks with felhunters... druids who know what they're doing, warriors who know what they're doing, and rogues with good equipment, or a higher level than me... |
| 11:50.23 | pagefault | if you can get rid of the pet warlocks are easy |
| 11:50.35 | pagefault | unless it's a demonology warlock |
| 11:50.38 | pagefault | they are screwed without a pet |
| 11:50.43 | Depherios | fear... 26 second cooldown... that's it |
| 11:51.39 | pagefault | I have aoe fear but it's a 2.5 second cast |
| 11:52.28 | pagefault | fear is so crappy these days |
| 11:52.32 | pagefault | everything is immune to it |
| 11:52.33 | Depherios | yup :P |
| 11:52.38 | Depherios | and it's all we've got |
| 11:52.41 | pagefault | sometimes I like being feared |
| 11:52.45 | Depherios | well XD |
| 11:52.47 | pagefault | if I am low on health I don't both to dispell it |
| 11:52.49 | Depherios | I MC people sometimes |
| 11:52.51 | pagefault | it's like an escape |
| 11:52.57 | Depherios | not if you're against a priest Page |
| 11:53.03 | Depherios | ... preist = fear + mind flay |
| 11:53.05 | pagefault | well usually they aoe fear |
| 11:53.13 | Depherios | mind flay you won't leave the range of the attack XD |
| 11:53.15 | pagefault | and there is too much going on for other people to notice |
| 11:53.23 | pagefault | well if I survive the mind flay |
| 11:53.27 | pagefault | usuaully I can get away |
| 11:53.44 | pagefault | shadow ward for the win |
| 11:53.56 | pagefault | it absorbs an amazing 400 damage |
| 11:54.28 | pagefault | are there 1.10 notes somewhere |
| 11:54.36 | Depherios | oh yeah! I get http://www.wowwiki.com/Shadowguard |
| 11:54.55 | Depherios | does an amazing 300 or so damage :P |
| 11:55.08 | Depherios | at level 60 |
| 11:55.21 | pagefault | so it's like that shammy skill |
| 11:55.23 | pagefault | whats it called |
| 11:55.26 | Depherios | but suckier |
| 11:55.33 | Depherios | lightning shield (sp) |
| 11:56.57 | Depherios | at 60 mine does a whole 348... |
| 11:57.12 | pagefault | haha |
| 11:57.15 | pagefault | wowwiki is funny |
| 11:57.20 | pagefault | about the banishing thing |
| 11:57.22 | Depherios | shaman... without talents... 594 |
| 11:57.31 | pagefault | I used to group with people that got so pissed off when I banished stuff |
| 11:57.37 | pagefault | because they couldn't attack it |
| 11:57.46 | pagefault | but they don't relise I just saved them |
| 12:01.46 | pagefault | wtf |
| 12:01.50 | pagefault | I just learned something new about my class |
| 12:15.36 | Codayus | ? |
| 12:16.25 | pagefault | curse of recklessness stops mobs from running |
| 12:17.23 | Codayus | heh |
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| 12:44.58 | norganna | So what do we think the chances of 1.9 patch are this tuesday? |
| 12:45.05 | Kolth | 0% |
| 12:45.07 | Kolth | A bird told us. |
| 12:45.44 | norganna | patch days are so stressful |
| 12:46.00 | Kolth | I can't imagine your pain. |
| 12:46.39 | norganna | you can't? |
| 12:46.54 | Kolth | I've never written Auctioneer, Gatherer and Informant |
| 12:47.05 | Kolth | (If thats the right name) |
| 12:47.19 | norganna | yup - that's them |
| 12:47.40 | Kolth | You happen to be the father of some of the most oft-run code for WoW! :P |
| 12:47.44 | Anduin|DM | oh norg, i was just musing about progress bars behind the name of the catigory your searching for auc |
| 12:47.56 | norganna | it's mostly that the maintenance starts at about 9pm my time, and ends at 3 or 4 in the morning |
| 12:48.42 | norganna | anduin - that's pretty kewl actually |
| 12:48.49 | Kolth | Ingame progress bars? |
| 12:49.00 | norganna | scan progress bars |
| 12:49.08 | Kolth | That sounds gorgeous. |
| 12:49.35 | norganna | kolth: all by accident really |
| 12:49.40 | Anduin|DM | rip aparty APB or ArcaneBar for the progress stuff if u want |
| 12:50.20 | norganna | i got progress code in one of my "in development" addons |
| 12:50.30 | Anduin|DM | that works |
| 12:50.47 | Anduin|DM | behind the names so that they're still visible preferably |
| 12:50.58 | norganna | :) |
| 12:51.17 | Anduin|DM | flash when they finish |
| 12:51.33 | Anduin|DM | total progress bar on the center |
| 12:52.04 | Anduin|DM | maybe a minimizable frame.. |
| 12:52.18 | Anduin|DM | can u still run scans with the window hidden? |
| 12:52.28 | norganna | i don't think so |
| 12:52.48 | SP|Sorren | is there any way to tell if your character is moving? :P |
| 12:52.49 | norganna | i'm not sure how blizzard do that "you're at the auction house" check |
| 12:53.27 | Anduin|DM | well u could make the frame invisible or rescale it to nil |
| 12:53.38 | Anduin|DM | and make ur own mini frame |
| 12:53.43 | norganna | if it's just a proximity check with an enable on the window open and disable on window closem then it should be ok just to hide() it |
| 12:55.08 | Anduin|DM | why does it take so long to scan each page anyway? insisible tooltip scanning? |
| 12:55.28 | norganna | blizzard only allow one reques every 5 seconds |
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| 12:55.58 | norganna | 50 results per page = 10 requests per second maximum |
| 12:55.58 | Anduin|DM | ah |
| 12:56.15 | Anduin|DM | ok, that makes sense then |
| 12:56.29 | norganna | so wehn you're getting 9.98/s that 0.02 is processing / network latency |
| 12:56.46 | Anduin|DM | can u somehow make it remember all the currently scanned items and then scan in the bg? |
| 12:57.16 | norganna | huh? |
| 12:57.27 | norganna | like while you are browsing yourself? |
| 12:57.34 | Anduin|DM | so it starts scannign when you open the page, and when u scan it sends an interupt and saves that info for browsing and resumes scanning |
| 12:58.23 | norganna | yes, it's possible, but it makes buying / bidding difficult |
| 12:58.41 | Anduin|DM | do u have to rescan the same page before bidding? |
| 12:58.57 | norganna | because once you "leave" the page/search, the positions of the items may change |
| 12:59.19 | Anduin|DM | can't you remember the current search locally? |
| 12:59.50 | norganna | yes, but bids are made by position |
| 13:00.17 | norganna | and the blizzard client maps the results to the auction-item-id on the server |
| 13:00.47 | Anduin|DM | so you'd have to rescan, update id code against info and then bid? |
| 13:01.02 | norganna | when you initiate a new search request, the client replaces all the positional informatuion with the new results |
| 13:01.52 | Anduin|DM | u coudl just save id/buyer/prince and match |
| 13:01.56 | norganna | so there's no way to place a bid, except by redoing the original search, but there's no guarantee that the item will be the same place in the new scan |
| 13:02.29 | norganna | it starts to get complicated :) |
| 13:02.54 | Anduin|DM | of course |
| 13:03.02 | Anduin|DM | remove the 'just' ;) |
| 13:03.51 | norganna | one of the new features is going to be a snapshot "browser" |
| 13:04.12 | Anduin|DM | :) |
| 13:04.43 | norganna | which will let you do searches over the current search (even while scanning) and tag items for buying |
| 13:05.27 | Anduin|DM | ah, tagging works too |
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| 13:12.26 | Anduin|DM | wb |
| 13:21.41 | Anduin|DM | mtter butter? |
| 13:23.07 | Iriel | Well, i'd just about gotten to sleep comfortably when I get called from work.. about an issue that started 5 HOURS ago, that was generating meaningful failure logs in all the right places, but which nobody could figure out. |
| 13:23.21 | Iriel | Why they couldn't have called before I went to bed is beyond me. |
| 13:23.24 | Iriel | But now i'm awake again |
| 13:23.31 | Anduin|DM | :( |
| 13:31.30 | krka | ouch |
| 13:46.54 | Legorol | hurts |
| 13:46.58 | Legorol | 5 ours sleep => pain |
| 13:47.02 | Legorol | *hours |
| 13:47.12 | Iriel | well, I'd only been asleep 2 hours |
| 13:47.20 | Iriel | which is what makes it more annoying |
| 13:47.29 | Anduin|DM | i might get 6 hrs if i go to sleep now.. |
| 13:47.29 | Iriel | they had 3 hours to call me when I would have been awake |
| 13:47.38 | Legorol | Anduin|DM, do |
| 13:47.47 | Legorol | 6 hours just makes you sleepy but functioning |
| 13:47.51 | Legorol | any less and i'm a zombie ;-) |
| 13:47.51 | Anduin|DM | i'm making dropdown menus instead |
| 13:48.02 | Anduin|DM | dunno, got 4 last night and been ok |
| 13:48.09 | Legorol | fell for you, Iriel |
| 13:48.14 | Legorol | *feel |
| 13:49.02 | Legorol | Anduin|DM, you have Draka chars? |
| 13:49.57 | Anduin|DM | Whiletrue |
| 13:50.03 | Anduin|DM | alliance |
| 13:50.33 | MoonWolf | yay for endless loops |
| 13:50.46 | Legorol | and for H side? |
| 13:50.49 | Legorol | whilefalse? |
| 13:50.59 | Anduin|DM | no got |
| 13:51.38 | Anduin|Menuing | Loopie, maybe.. |
| 13:52.09 | Anduin|Menuing | fori=1,1,-1do |
| 13:52.52 | Legorol | are you allowed numbers in names? |
| 13:53.03 | Legorol | you could do: foriellmldo |
| 13:53.06 | Anduin|Menuing | doubt it |
| 13:53.18 | Anduin|Menuing | unreadable |
| 13:53.23 | Legorol | hehe, but it's code! |
| 13:54.54 | Anduin|Menuing | so.. |
| 13:55.16 | Anduin|Menuing | Editme |
| 13:55.35 | Anduin|Menuing | AddonGod |
| 13:56.37 | MoonWolf | nil and notnil ? |
| 13:57.48 | krka | what are you on about? |
| 13:58.01 | krka | or to rephrase it: what are you on? |
| 14:00.03 | MoonWolf | eeeuh, californian poppie based relaxation pills, but only at night. |
| 14:00.44 | Anduin|Menuing | illegal opium? |
| 14:00.54 | MoonWolf | very legal |
| 14:01.05 | MoonWolf | its for sleeping.... i have trouble getting sleep at times. |
| 14:01.06 | Anduin|Menuing | esp since calf popies are protected |
| 14:01.23 | MoonWolf | go to local farmacy look up correct shelf, pay 5 euros |
| 14:04.17 | krka | i only slept like 12 hours tonight :P poor me! |
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| 14:21.00 | SP|Sorren | does lua have modulus? |
| 14:21.05 | Iriel | math.mod |
| 14:21.09 | SP|Sorren | hot |
| 14:21.10 | SP|Sorren | <3 |
| 14:21.36 | Iriel | theres an integer one in bitlib too, if you're working on 1.9 |
| 14:22.20 | SP|Sorren | ill stick with 1.8 for now 8) |
| 14:22.39 | SP|Sorren | bitlib does the bitwise operators and stuff? |
| 14:23.44 | Iriel | yup |
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| 14:50.56 | Iriel | off to bed again |
| 14:51.04 | Anduin|Menuing | same |
| 14:53.41 | krka | also, you can define your own modulus: mod = function(a, b) return b * floor(a / b) end |
| 14:54.04 | krka | oops.... wrong |
| 14:54.29 | groll | loool http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5393904704265757054 |
| 14:55.28 | Kolth | I remember that vid, lol |
| 14:55.58 | Kolth | So freaking unsafe. |
| 14:56.01 | Kolth | Smart people! |
| 14:56.17 | krka | mod = function(a, b) return a - b * floor(a / b) end |
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| 15:22.07 | norganna | sleep time |
| 15:22.10 | norganna | nite |
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| 15:34.58 | groll | bah no industrial when one needs him :( |
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| 16:01.59 | Legorol|alt | splendid... all EU realms down |
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| 16:30.50 | krka | sure Legorol? my brother is playing right now |
| 16:31.01 | krka | (and have been for a long while) |
| 16:32.11 | Tain | Uploaded my custom Minimap to WoWI |
| 16:32.20 | cladhaire | Morning |
| 16:32.29 | Tain | Mornin clad |
| 16:32.41 | MoonWolf | custom minimap ? |
| 16:32.42 | MoonWolf | links |
| 16:34.47 | Tain | Here's a screenshot. |
| 16:34.49 | Tain | http://www.crushingdreams.com/images/CustomMinimap.png |
| 16:35.14 | MoonWolf | awsome... are you simply clipping out part the original minimap ? |
| 16:35.41 | Tain | It's something someone else did first, so I won't take credit. But I made my own shape. |
| 16:35.52 | Tain | The Minimap itself is actually a square. |
| 16:36.05 | Tain | And what you see in game is masked to a circle. |
| 16:36.38 | Tain | Plus the border. You can modify the mask, and make a new border, and put them in the World of Warcraft\Data directory to override. |
| 16:36.52 | Tain | There's another cool corner one too. |
| 16:40.21 | Tain | Here's the corner one someone else made. |
| 16:40.21 | Tain | http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/7978/wowscrnshot1210051205368nt.jpg |
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| 16:47.48 | krka | hmm... so why don't people just want to see the full minimap? |
| 16:49.38 | Tain | You're seeing less of the full minimap by default, actually. |
| 16:52.26 | krka | yes, I understood that |
| 16:52.46 | Tain | The rest is aesthetics then. |
| 16:52.48 | krka | why not just have a square frame around the minimap though, to see all of it? |
| 16:52.59 | Tain | Pure looks. |
| 17:19.47 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 17:19.50 | zeeg | idk what to buy my gma for xmas |
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| 17:24.50 | Kolth | buy her a 61" LCD |
| 17:26.07 | Ktron|afk | then tell me where your gma lives, so I can get myself a 61" LCD for xmas |
| 17:34.36 | zeeg | lol |
| 17:34.48 | zeeg | i just ordered her some moving picture frmae dealy |
| 17:38.08 | zeeg | god damn |
| 17:38.20 | zeeg | i have like, level 60 money spending skills |
| 17:38.20 | zeeg | :P |
| 17:38.29 | zeeg | just dropped 1,000 in less than an hour :| |
| 17:40.13 | Kolth | damn |
| 17:40.59 | Tain | zeeg, why do you prefix downloads? |
| 17:43.49 | zeeg | ? |
| 17:43.51 | zeeg | huh |
| 17:44.00 | Maldivia | zeeg, got your Material Calculator fixed yet :) |
| 17:44.04 | zeeg | Maldivia, nope :P |
| 17:44.09 | zeeg | i found another prob tho in spell's |
| 17:44.15 | Maldivia | do tell |
| 17:44.17 | zeeg | theres one thats like $13446; or something |
| 17:44.18 | Tain | The numbers that are prefixed to every download file. |
| 17:44.18 | Legorol | gmas are always hard, zeeg |
| 17:44.27 | zeeg | Tain, to make sure it's a unique file |
| 17:44.28 | Legorol | get her a nice, painted ceramic mug |
| 17:44.32 | zeeg | Legorol, i got her a moving picture frame thing :) |
| 17:44.44 | Legorol | O.o sounds interesting |
| 17:44.46 | Legorol | what's one of those? |
| 17:44.50 | zeeg | wait |
| 17:44.53 | zeeg | what numbers |
| 17:45.01 | Ktron | I'm assuming the picture moves, not the frame |
| 17:45.01 | zeeg | Balance: $1,056.84 USD |
| 17:45.02 | zeeg | e4rr |
| 17:45.04 | zeeg | http://www.spencersonline.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.detail/categoryID/7726f081-e258-4273-b368-4829e6044e71/productID/7186eba5-8f1e-4e14-95cd-6843b627e9ff/ |
| 17:45.29 | zeeg | i wanted to get the dolphin one |
| 17:45.31 | zeeg | but its sold out |
| 17:45.48 | Tain | This stuff. 1134186097dLx_minimap.zip |
| 17:45.57 | zeeg | where do you see that at Tain |
| 17:45.59 | Legorol | Tain, it's not doing that to me |
| 17:46.00 | Maldivia | looks like a timestamp |
| 17:46.01 | zeeg | oh |
| 17:46.13 | zeeg | err ya i still dont see it |
| 17:46.14 | zeeg | :| |
| 17:46.29 | zeeg | the new ui section's files are a lot dif looking |
| 17:46.36 | Tain | Well, it happens to me always. Any computer, any browser. |
| 17:46.44 | zeeg | strange |
| 17:46.49 | Legorol | Tain, what's the link to the page of dlx_minimap? |
| 17:46.51 | zeeg | they look like name-version.zip to me |
| 17:46.54 | Tain | Well, IE, Opera, Firefox. Not *any* browser. |
| 17:46.58 | zeeg | new ones are like atlas-42-13.zip |
| 17:47.00 | Tain | And any file. |
| 17:47.14 | zeeg | 42 being the unique id, 13 being the "safe" version # |
| 17:47.15 | Tain | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1685 |
| 17:47.17 | zeeg | and atlas being the name |
| 17:47.19 | zeeg | im not worldofwar |
| 17:47.20 | zeeg | :P |
| 17:47.23 | zeeg | im wowguru :) |
| 17:47.28 | Legorol | zeeg, are you naming the downloads yourself, or letting the dev uploading it name it? |
| 17:47.31 | Tain | hah that would explain it. |
| 17:47.36 | Tain | I wasn't paying attention. |
| 17:47.39 | MoonWolf | lol |
| 17:47.49 | zeeg | Legorol, it renames it |
| 17:47.54 | Legorol | :( |
| 17:47.55 | zeeg | err well |
| 17:47.59 | Tain | Ehn those other sites are all the same to me. |
| 17:48.01 | Maldivia | zeeg: the ; in description/biff texts? |
| 17:48.02 | zeeg | when they upload, it unzips into a "release" directory for their mod |
| 17:48.18 | Maldivia | zeeg: isn't that only when there's a multiplier attached to the value? |
| 17:48.24 | zeeg | it then rezips, only allowing selected files into the new zip file, adding files that are needed according to settings (WGP, Cosmos, etc.), and names it like i said |
| 17:48.29 | zeeg | err well sec Maldivia |
| 17:48.37 | Maldivia | ok.. |
| 17:48.38 | zeeg | look up spell #.. |
| 17:48.42 | zeeg | 3827 |
| 17:48.48 | zeeg | Ward of Laze |
| 17:49.15 | Maldivia | yeah... don't see a ; |
| 17:49.19 | zeeg | wel i mean |
| 17:49.21 | zeeg | just the $1341324 |
| 17:49.24 | zeeg | there's no letter.. |
| 17:49.29 | zeeg | $3826 i think |
| 17:49.33 | zeeg | then a % |
| 17:49.34 | Maldivia | ohh... hmm... |
| 17:49.41 | Maldivia | bug perhaps ? |
| 17:49.45 | zeeg | idk if 6 is supposed to be the letter or what |
| 17:49.45 | zeeg | maybe |
| 17:49.50 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/spells/id3827/ |
| 17:49.51 | zeeg | lol |
| 17:50.08 | Maldivia | usually there's the variable-type letter |
| 17:50.25 | zeeg | ya |
| 17:50.35 | zeeg | is that spell actually in-game? |
| 17:51.03 | Maldivia | you're the one with the database to check if it's on an item |
| 17:51.14 | zeeg | it would show on that page |
| 17:51.17 | zeeg | i was talking castable |
| 17:51.26 | Maldivia | never heard of it |
| 17:51.34 | Maldivia | so perhaps a mob spell? |
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| 17:51.52 | zeeg | that might be |
| 17:51.58 | zeeg | it has to be in-game |
| 17:52.02 | zeeg | as the mob "Ward of Laze" has been seen |
| 17:52.13 | zeeg | so i wonder how you're supposed to get the # for that $ value |
| 17:52.43 | Maldivia | checkked mob-id 2667 ? |
| 17:52.53 | krka | anyone want to see my queue class in LUA? :) |
| 17:53.06 | zeeg | Maldivia, not much associated with the mobcache |
| 17:53.18 | zeeg | all i get out of mobcache is name, desc, type flag, family flag, and display info |
| 17:53.27 | Maldivia | zeeg, ok - just noticed that the spell spawn 3 such mobs :) |
| 17:54.09 | Maldivia | hmm, is there a mob named Laze... |
| 17:54.23 | zeeg | nope |
| 17:54.31 | Maldivia | there's a Lazee in STV |
| 17:54.41 | Maldivia | according to thott... |
| 17:54.54 | zeeg | hrm |
| 17:54.59 | Maldivia | but that might be a player.. that database is a bit weird sometimes :) |
| 17:55.01 | zeeg | might be wrong |
| 17:55.04 | zeeg | ya |
| 17:55.05 | zeeg | i dont have it |
| 17:55.12 | zeeg | so its prob nonexistent |
| 17:55.34 | Maldivia | thott also lists Ward of Laze as spotted in STV |
| 17:55.44 | zeeg | hrm |
| 17:55.51 | MoonWolf | thott needs to clear its database and start from scratch |
| 17:56.01 | MoonWolf | it has the most stupid shit under disenchants into. |
| 17:56.04 | zeeg | MoonWolf, there's more problems than just that |
| 17:56.17 | MoonWolf | mob spawn locations out of zones |
| 17:56.24 | MoonWolf | all of that stuff |
| 17:56.25 | krka | queues in LUA: http://wow.pastebin.com/459694 |
| 17:57.02 | Maldivia | cute :) |
| 17:57.46 | Osagasu | Kael works? o.o |
| 17:57.59 | zeeg | i need to go buy a huge giant cardboard box |
| 17:58.05 | zeeg | to put this gift certificate in |
| 17:58.07 | zeeg | :| |
| 18:01.14 | Maldivia | krka, ahh queue... got confused a bit by looking at the code, through stack when I saw push and pop :) |
| 18:01.47 | Maldivia | (gladly ignoring all the references to queue in the code :) |
| 18:07.08 | Maldivia | zeeg, btw - having trouble with your item database... notice all the newly added items dont have the usual "first seen in xxx" "last update ..." etc fields |
| 18:08.39 | zeeg | im probably missing the patch version |
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| 18:09.50 | Maldivia | latest test is build 4894 |
| 18:12.08 | zeeg | k |
| 18:15.53 | Maldivia | btw, what time does your item maintenance run ? |
| 18:16.04 | Maldivia | where you parse the uploaded files |
| 18:18.05 | zeeg | dk its early morning |
| 18:18.07 | zeeg | US time |
| 18:18.09 | zeeg | 4am my time i think |
| 18:19.03 | Maldivia | 4am, hmm ,ok |
| 18:19.38 | Maldivia | you should have said somthing before you started it, and I'd uploaded my data ) |
| 18:20.33 | Maldivia | holy shit... 102.2 dps wand... |
| 18:20.50 | MoonWolf | gimmi gimmi |
| 18:24.44 | zeeg | bahaha i bought my sis a flying ufo :P |
| 18:24.55 | zeeg | O.o |
| 18:25.19 | MoonWolf | how many people have sisters that apreciate things like that.... |
| 18:25.24 | Kolth | Isn't that redundant to say such a thing? |
| 18:25.31 | zeeg | idk |
| 18:25.32 | zeeg | lol |
| 18:25.37 | Kolth | Flying Flying Object? |
| 18:25.38 | zeeg | the mexican guy who sold me it was hitting on me :| |
| 18:25.42 | zeeg | i think i got it cheap |
| 18:25.42 | zeeg | lol |
| 18:25.46 | Kolth | uh |
| 18:25.58 | zeeg | i just walk up to him to ask him how much they cost |
| 18:26.05 | zeeg | and he touches me shirt and he's like i like your shirt |
| 18:26.06 | zeeg | no im serious! |
| 18:26.09 | zeeg | it was $35 |
| 18:26.10 | Ktron | anyone else use 'SqueakWheel? |
| 18:26.12 | zeeg | i paid less than $30 |
| 18:26.15 | zeeg | :P |
| 18:26.23 | Ktron | *'SqueakyWheel' |
| 18:26.23 | Kolth | Ever thought he just wanted to have sex with your wallet? :) |
| 18:26.36 | zeeg | prolly not :P |
| 18:26.58 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 18:27.02 | zeeg | wonder ho long i gotat charge it |
| 18:27.04 | zeeg | i dont wanna take this back |
| 18:27.06 | zeeg | it best work |
| 18:28.04 | zeeg | oh there's an on switch |
| 18:28.04 | zeeg | :P |
| 18:30.09 | zeeg | shit |
| 18:30.17 | zeeg | i go9tta buy a mem card for this ps2 yet :| |
| 18:30.28 | zeeg | they dont come w/ one do they? |
| 18:34.22 | Osagasu | I dunno |
| 18:34.26 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/articles/10610/grind-levels-1-to-60-in-2-days--power-leveling.html |
| 18:34.42 | MoonWolf | is that two day's /played ? |
| 18:35.03 | Osagasu | but don't bother with a standard card... get one of the MAX memory cards |
| 18:35.07 | Osagasu | 32 or 64 megs |
| 18:35.16 | Osagasu | a lot of saves won't FIT on an 8 meg card |
| 18:35.26 | Depherios | depends on what games you're playing |
| 18:35.39 | Depherios | sports games, or RPG maker and stuff.. lol huge saves |
| 18:35.48 | Osagasu | I mean there are some games that have saves in the 9+ meg range |
| 18:36.44 | Depherios | personally I dislike any memory cards that aren't made by Sony or liscensed to use magic gate, because they get funky... as much as I hate sony... although it's probably sony's fault XD |
| 18:36.59 | Depherios | never had a customer complain of a defective magic gate card... |
| 18:37.00 | zeeg | MoonWolf, not sure exactly, taken from paysites |
| 18:37.07 | MoonWolf | okay |
| 18:37.08 | zeeg | the MAX ones that require a cd? |
| 18:37.13 | Depherios | oh the other hand... offbrands... *shudders* |
| 18:37.14 | zeeg | my sisters like 7 y/o :P |
| 18:37.18 | zeeg | ill buy a sony one |
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| 19:25.01 | MoonWolf | weeee |
| 19:26.21 | Maldivia | zeeg ? |
| 19:29.04 | zeeg | ya |
| 19:29.05 | Maldivia | A few bug reports for your site: "item-tooltips" on frontpage doesn't list type (sword, dagger, cloth, leather etc) - and wands doesn't list what type of damage they deal (shadow, fire etc) |
| 19:29.05 | zeeg | alright, they also break on the faction |
| 19:29.05 | zeeg | most tooltips break on factioN :P |
| 19:29.34 | zeeg | i gotta make it query for the info if its not already in the data being sent |
| 19:30.36 | Maldivia | well, the missing type just seems to be a slip, since it's on the actual item-pages, just not the "tooltips" |
| 19:30.36 | zeeg | ya, its on some |
| 19:30.36 | zeeg | my tooltips are like |
| 19:30.37 | zeeg | 7 tables joined together :| |
| 19:31.03 | Maldivia | ouch |
| 19:31.04 | zeeg | items, classes, subclasses, factions, icons, reputation i think, maybe thats it |
| 19:31.31 | Maldivia | btw, like my latest upload? |
| 19:31.54 | zeeg | oh |
| 19:31.54 | zeeg | + spells |
| 19:31.54 | zeeg | ya |
| 19:31.54 | zeeg | haha |
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| 19:36.47 | krka | question: is local f(...) ... end ... obj.f = f better than obj.f = function(...) ... end ? |
| 19:37.13 | krka | i.e. does the latter create more functions? |
| 19:37.30 | kergoth | create more functions? |
| 19:37.40 | zeeg | use more resources i believe is what he's asking |
| 19:38.03 | kergoth | the former uses an additional register to hold the local reference to the function |
| 19:38.53 | kergoth | thats about it |
| 19:38.53 | krka | hm ok |
| 19:38.53 | kergoth | only a function() end block creates a function. lua operates by reference, not by value |
| 19:38.55 | krka | seems like everything you find a function() ... end you need to create a closure |
| 19:39.05 | kergoth | a = {} b = a does not create a second table, just two vars pointing at the same table |
| 19:39.12 | kergoth | i think you're confused about what a closure is |
| 19:39.13 | krka | agreed |
| 19:39.19 | krka | perhaps |
| 19:39.31 | kergoth | every function in lua binds the current locals into the function as upvalues. thats what a closure is |
| 19:39.52 | kergoth | local foo function bar() print foo end foo = 5 bar() |
| 19:39.54 | kergoth | that prints 5 |
| 19:40.00 | ForgottenLords | Is there a way to retrieve information about a character without doing a /who? |
| 19:40.37 | zespri | closures are used to preserv calues of locals when "parent" function finishes it execution but called function is still active. this locals are passes as so-called 'upvalues' |
| 19:41.25 | krka | hm ok, then maybe I misunderstood |
| 19:41.39 | kremonte | purl, lava? |
| 19:41.46 | krka | http://wow.pastebin.com/459694 http://wow.pastebin.com/459852 |
| 19:41.53 | krka | these two show two contrary styles |
| 19:41.55 | kremonte | omg, purl doesnt know that lava sucks =o |
| 19:41.58 | krka | but they both should be equal? |
| 19:42.03 | krka | and the second one is preferred? |
| 19:43.41 | Maldivia | ForgottenLords: if the person is in your guild, then the GetGuildRosterInfo function can be used... if you're in group/raid or has as target, then the Unit* functions |
| 19:44.01 | ForgottenLords | I'm looking for something a little more general. |
| 19:44.15 | Maldivia | there's is no GetInfoAboutPlayer(playerName) functions |
| 19:44.26 | ForgottenLords | if I'm trying to get the race, class, level and guild of anyone that can Whisper me |
| 19:44.39 | ForgottenLords | so the only way is with /who? |
| 19:44.43 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 19:44.50 | ForgottenLords | cripes |
| 19:45.12 | kergoth | krka: in the first, you have to pass the queue table to the functions when calling them. myqueue:clear(). in the second, the queue is bound into the functions, which means, its creating new instances of the functions each time you create a graph. |
| 19:45.40 | kergoth | krka: so the second is going to be less memory efficient |
| 19:45.51 | krka | actually, my tests showed that they use the same function |
| 19:45.57 | krka | local g1 = newGraph() |
| 19:45.57 | krka | local g2 = newGraph() |
| 19:45.57 | krka | print(g1.isEdgeBetween == g1.isEdgeBetween) |
| 19:46.01 | krka | that showed True |
| 19:46.32 | kergoth | yes, g1.isEdgeBetween == g1.isEdgeBetween |
| 19:46.38 | kergoth | test again, but comparing g1 to g2 :P |
| 19:46.45 | krka | yes, I know that they differ |
| 19:46.48 | MoonWolf | kergoth has a good point. |
| 19:46.48 | krka | hmm |
| 19:46.49 | krka | doh |
| 19:46.57 | kergoth | ;) |
| 19:47.01 | krka | false |
| 19:47.04 | krka | copy-paste FTL |
| 19:47.07 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:47.19 | krka | seriously, 99% of all my bugs are due to copy-paste |
| 19:47.31 | krka | thus, the first method is definitely better |
| 19:47.42 | krka | thanks kergoth |
| 19:47.48 | kergoth | no problem |
| 19:48.53 | Maldivia | zeeg: *grumble* I should stop uploading to wowguru... you've catched up to me in number of items in dbase :) |
| 19:49.20 | zeeg | :P |
| 19:50.23 | Maldivia | Do you have a list of all the item ids you have, so I can see what I'm missing / what you are missing ? |
| 19:50.29 | zeeg | oh |
| 19:50.35 | zeeg | on e sec |
| 19:50.44 | zeeg | god damn |
| 19:50.44 | zeeg | /db/spells/reindeer-transformation-id25860/ |
| 19:50.44 | zeeg | |
| 19:50.44 | zeeg | 12,074 |
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| 19:50.53 | zeeg | (thats inbound link count on that page) |
| 19:50.58 | zeeg | entrance page that is |
| 19:51.02 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 19:51.23 | Maldivia | someone linked it on the forums ? |
| 19:51.43 | zeeg | dk probably |
| 19:51.58 | Maldivia | I get so confused everytime you write dk :) |
| 19:52.50 | zeeg | dont know :D |
| 19:52.58 | zeeg | who runs this wowinsider site |
| 19:53.22 | MoonWolf | Phnglui mglwnafh Cthulhu Rlyeh wgahnagl Ftagn! |
| 19:53.23 | Maldivia | dk = Denmark :) |
| 19:53.28 | zeeg | that have like |
| 19:53.31 | zeeg | 20 people posting constantly |
| 19:53.47 | zeeg | ok 5 |
| 19:55.20 | zeeg | *goes back to ddr* |
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| 20:02.01 | sweede | hey quick question. |
| 20:02.37 | sweede | you know the battlefield frame where it shows everyones score and whos playing ? |
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| 20:08.01 | sweede | anyone know what the name of the battlefield frame where it shows everyones score and whos playing ? |
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| 20:15.58 | Maldivia | bring it up and /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() while the mouse is over it ? |
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| 20:19.01 | sweede | well, none of us are in bgs heh |
| 20:22.12 | Maldivia | hmm, just a sec |
| 20:22.36 | Maldivia | WorldStateScoreFrame ? |
| 20:23.06 | Osagasu | <,< |
| 20:23.08 | Osagasu | Zot! |
| 20:24.23 | Osagasu | brb |
| 20:26.56 | sweede | thanks ! |
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| 20:31.30 | Osagasu | I didn't know Slouken actually played WoW. o.o |
| 20:32.34 | kremonte | devs play wow? wtf |
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| 20:33.10 | shouryuu | Yata! |
| 20:33.16 | kremonte | yokuyatta~ ^^ |
| 20:33.25 | shouryuu | :P |
| 20:33.31 | shouryuu | Philosphy papper = done! |
| 20:33.37 | sweede | how about the AB resource score frame? |
| 20:33.38 | kremonte | papper! yatta! |
| 20:34.12 | shouryuu | or was it paper? |
| 20:34.56 | Osagasu | pepper? |
| 20:35.25 | kremonte | c'est paper ;o |
| 20:35.35 | kremonte | mmm food |
| 20:35.47 | Tain | I have tuner fish. |
| 20:36.05 | kremonte | argh im hungryyy |
| 20:36.33 | Tain | I was trying to have a relatively health(ier) lunch so when my roommate went to get sandwiches I got tuna. |
| 20:36.38 | Tain | Then he comes in with a large steak and cheese. |
| 20:36.45 | Tain | And my tuna feels inadequate. :( |
| 20:36.56 | kremonte | lol |
| 20:37.15 | Tain | If I had known he was going to do that I would have gotten a steak bomb! |
| 20:37.32 | Tain | Shaved steak with ham, salami, and cheese! |
| 20:37.43 | Beladona | make sure you bring that up at his next cornoary |
| 20:37.47 | Beladona | coronary* |
| 20:38.07 | Tain | Yeah and this is after we both just about keeled over shovelling the 30 foot driveay |
| 20:38.08 | Tain | driveway |
| 20:38.21 | kremonte | ,_, |
| 20:38.24 | kremonte | big driveway.. |
| 20:38.27 | Tain | 30 feet is uh.. 66 meters? Hell if I know |
| 20:38.52 | Tain | No it's the other way, meters are bigger |
| 20:38.59 | kremonte | lol |
| 20:39.10 | Tain | Stupid logical math systems. |
| 20:39.28 | Tain | In my day we got 12 hogshead to the mule and we liked it. |
| 20:40.16 | MoonWolf | .... |
| 20:40.35 | Maldivia | sweede: WorldStateAlwaysUpFrame |
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| 20:44.26 | Guillotine | rawr |
| 20:45.04 | Guillotine | hehe. I just realized that I've been logging our chat from the time of the channel creation... |
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| 20:45.17 | Guillotine | hey! the troll is here! hey shouryuu! |
| 20:45.28 | Guillotine | wow. went AFK already? |
| 20:45.41 | Guillotine | I'm just talking to myself b/c nobody else is answering |
| 20:45.45 | Guillotine | at least you guys know I'm alive |
| 20:45.52 | Guillotine | if I ever stop talking |
| 20:45.53 | kremonte | lol |
| 20:45.56 | Guillotine | you know somethings wrong |
| 20:45.59 | kremonte | haha |
| 20:46.03 | Guillotine | :) |
| 20:46.05 | kremonte | i do it too =o |
| 20:46.12 | kremonte | i honor all druids |
| 20:46.20 | kremonte | it's SO SLOW , and i'm level 13 ._. |
| 20:46.20 | sweede | maldivia , where's the xml file with that ? |
| 20:46.36 | Guillotine | whats so slow? leveling? |
| 20:46.37 | Maldivia | WorldStateFrame.xml |
| 20:46.45 | kremonte | yea. at least without cat form =X |
| 20:46.49 | Beladona | in the FrameXML folder |
| 20:46.52 | sweede | heh, thast so obvious isnt it :) |
| 20:47.04 | Guillotine | its slow with cat form too. unless you're fully feral specced and have some really good feral gear |
| 20:47.11 | Maldivia | :) |
| 20:47.13 | Guillotine | which most ppl don't get until they've been 60 for a while... |
| 20:47.31 | kremonte | =( |
| 20:47.31 | Maldivia | sweede: might I suggest you get a hold of grep, or a similar util :) |
| 20:47.32 | Guillotine | druids and warlocks seem to be the slowest to level. priests would be too, but its jsut so easy to find instance groups with them |
| 20:47.54 | Guillotine | and shadow priests kill fast anyway |
| 20:48.03 | kremonte | warlock is really fast to level |
| 20:48.07 | kremonte | ._. |
| 20:50.39 | zeeg | anyone here have vanguard or ddo beta? |
| 20:50.54 | Maldivia | is ddo good ? |
| 20:51.01 | zeeg | dk yet : |
| 20:51.03 | zeeg | its downloadin |
| 20:51.49 | Guillotine | kremonte: oh. well not for me... and I've heard its slow from other people too |
| 20:53.00 | kremonte | well imo, there's 2 good ways to level |
| 20:53.10 | kremonte | #1 dark pact/succubus, which is really fast |
| 20:53.19 | kremonte | or demonic sac VW and drain tank solo |
| 20:54.52 | Tain | Mornin Cair |
| 20:55.19 | Cair | actually mid-afternoon, damn near evening, but yeah, anyway, hi :) |
| 20:55.39 | Tain | Whenever you wake up is morning for that day as far as I'm concerned. ;) |
| 20:56.11 | Cair | true enough |
| 20:56.24 | Cair | :) |
| 20:58.29 | Guillotine | I just woke up too. and its 1pm... |
| 20:58.44 | Plorkyeran | I've heard bad things about ddo |
| 20:59.04 | Plorkyeran | mainly that it just isn't very fun and has some design flaws |
| 20:59.08 | Plorkyeran | never played it myself, though |
| 20:59.55 | zeeg | wewt my graph thing still works in mirc |
| 21:02.08 | zeeg | bandwidth:[382.93KB down; 27.06KB up] |
| 21:02.10 | zeeg | hrm |
| 21:02.27 | zeeg | bandwidth:[128.87KB down; 2.89KB up] |
| 21:02.30 | zeeg | O.o |
| 21:02.35 | zeeg | wtf |
| 21:03.40 | zeeg | bandwidth:[468.98kb/s down; 46.99kb/s up] |
| 21:03.41 | zeeg | muaha |
| 21:04.06 | Guillotine | lol |
| 21:04.20 | zeeg | i remember making this junk |
| 21:04.22 | zeeg | it was a pain in the ass |
| 21:04.30 | Maldivia | mirc scripts ? |
| 21:04.33 | zeeg | ya |
| 21:04.35 | Maldivia | eww... |
| 21:04.37 | zeeg | it has a graph which does a bunch of stuff |
| 21:04.39 | zeeg | its sexy |
| 21:05.02 | Maldivia | xchat is more fun... perl scripts :) |
| 21:05.08 | zeeg | boo perl |
| 21:05.21 | zeeg | im surpised mys tuff still works flawlessly it seems |
| 21:05.24 | zeeg | after like 2-3 years |
| 21:05.43 | zeeg | www.davidcramer.net/xstats.zip - for anyone who's interested, just extract to mirc dir and /load -rs xstats/main.mrc :) |
| 21:05.44 | ForgottenLords | I doubt Mirc has changed in the last 2-3 years |
| 21:05.45 | Maldivia | mirc's "scripting" language is so... messy and illogical |
| 21:05.47 | Guillotine | whos this "Ishtar" thats posting in the UI forums? they keep replying to threads with just about exactly what I wrote... |
| 21:05.57 | zeeg | Maldivia, ya i know :) |
| 21:06.02 | zeeg | ForgottenLords, you'd be suprised |
| 21:07.13 | zeeg | i made this awesome file serving system back when too :P |
| 21:07.16 | zeeg | set the standard :) |
| 21:07.22 | zeeg | still works better than the others im sure |
| 21:08.07 | Guillotine | I love it when ppl whisper me saying "you know, your name is french". ya. tnx. I had no idea. |
| 21:08.44 | krka | lol |
| 21:09.16 | Maldivia | well... it's a bit morbid name :) |
| 21:09.31 | Guillotine | i know |
| 21:09.32 | pagefault | ugh |
| 21:09.41 | pagefault | 45 days wasted in WoW on my main |
| 21:09.48 | Guillotine | haha pagefault |
| 21:09.52 | Maldivia | only 45? |
| 21:10.00 | Guillotine | its just wierd that ppl expect me to not know the origin of my char name... |
| 21:10.52 | Maldivia | well, unless you pressed the "Generate random name", then yeah :) |
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| 21:13.45 | Tain | I thought it was from Kentucky. |
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| 21:13.57 | Tain | "Geeel-oh-teeen" |
| 21:14.18 | zeeg | LOL |
| 21:14.19 | zeeg | You are banned from posting here. |
| 21:14.19 | zeeg | Reason: don't make the admins mad |
| 21:14.20 | zeeg | sounds liek me |
| 21:14.26 | kremonte | lol where from |
| 21:14.34 | zeeg | mircscripts.org |
| 21:14.39 | kremonte | XD |
| 21:14.45 | zeeg | i wanted to say "yay it still works" :( |
| 21:14.47 | zeeg | http://mircscripts.org/comments.php?cid=1843 |
| 21:15.45 | shouryuu | RRAWRRRR!!! |
| 21:16.02 | Tain | You know if you're going to post in here every place that you're banned from you're going to trigger people's flood protection. |
| 21:16.15 | zeeg | O.o |
| 21:16.18 | zeeg | I'm only banned from two places |
| 21:16.35 | zeeg | mircscripts.org obviously, and wow forums |
| 21:17.38 | shouryuu | full metal alchemist is really cool :P |
| 21:17.47 | Maldivia | zeeg: hehe, like your website listed there... now links to GoDaddy |
| 21:17.51 | Tain | Yeah it is, shouryuu |
| 21:17.54 | shouryuu | I'm still recuperating from my 20hour marathon |
| 21:17.58 | Tain | haha |
| 21:18.11 | zeeg | Maldivia, i still own it i think |
| 21:18.29 | zeeg | :P |
| 21:18.48 | zeeg | reminds me, gotta go renew my blog domain |
| 21:19.02 | shouryuu | anyone know any other cool anime? |
| 21:19.23 | shouryuu | something I can watch in a day, not samurai X that has 170 episodes 0_o |
| 21:19.44 | shouryuu | ohhh |
| 21:19.45 | shouryuu | halucard |
| 21:19.55 | shouryuu | I'll have to see those again |
| 21:21.24 | Tain | mmm let me think |
| 21:21.27 | Tain | Seen Lain yet? |
| 21:22.29 | shouryuu | yeah |
| 21:22.35 | shouryuu | 5hours marathon only |
| 21:22.37 | shouryuu | but saw it |
| 21:22.46 | shouryuu | fucked my mind up for a while |
| 21:22.57 | shouryuu | zomg queu on draka? |
| 21:22.59 | shouryuu | wtf |
| 21:23.02 | pagefault | w00t |
| 21:23.02 | shouryuu | *queue |
| 21:23.07 | Tain | haha yeah |
| 21:23.08 | pagefault | I finally got a 5 man scholo group |
| 21:23.11 | shouryuu | lol |
| 21:23.12 | pagefault | mount here I come |
| 21:23.22 | shouryuu | and page why did you waste 42 days on your char? |
| 21:23.31 | zeeg | ouch |
| 21:23.36 | zeeg | The gallery on wowguru is 20% of its hits |
| 21:23.42 | pagefault | well it just says that |
| 21:23.43 | zeeg | ui section is only 15% :( |
| 21:23.51 | shouryuu | lol |
| 21:24.05 | shouryuu | if you're refering to time playes it's not wasted :D |
| 21:24.20 | pagefault | same thing? |
| 21:24.20 | pagefault | hehe |
| 21:25.12 | Cair | hey Cide, you here? |
| 21:26.04 | Cide | yup my lady |
| 21:26.14 | zeeg | lol, urchin has interesting info |
| 21:26.39 | Cair | you guys need to make mini-map movable as well :) |
| 21:26.40 | shouryuu | hummmm can anyone send me an invite on the alliance side guild? |
| 21:26.54 | Cair | shouryuu: 2 sec, I'll switch over |
| 21:27.10 | zeeg | guild? |
| 21:27.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Stylpe (n=Stylpe@98.84-48-162.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:27.48 | Tain | Use Visor and you can move it! |
| 21:27.55 | Tain | You can't make it movable without an addon, right now. |
| 21:28.12 | shouryuu | My name is readthefaq |
| 21:28.13 | Beladona | thats why she told Cide |
| 21:28.22 | Cide | what did I miss? |
| 21:28.30 | Stylpe | The target |
| 21:28.34 | Cair | zeeg: if you're gonna cater to the UI community, you really need to keep up with what the UI community is doing :p |
| 21:28.35 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2563 |
| 21:28.35 | pagefault | man I will be so pissed off if this group can't get to the lab |
| 21:28.38 | Stylpe | Chuuu! |
| 21:28.39 | pagefault | I want my epic mount so bad |
| 21:28.42 | Beladona | nothing, Cair was suggesting you guys at the MiniMap as a movable object |
| 21:28.46 | Beladona | add* |
| 21:28.49 | Cair | *nod* |
| 21:28.50 | Tain | I'll just keep talking without worrying about whether or not I know what's going on! |
| 21:28.56 | Cair | what bela said :) |
| 21:29.06 | Tain | I don't let things like knowing the topic stop me. |
| 21:29.09 | Tain | :) |
| 21:29.12 | zeeg | Keeping up w/ the community doesn't involve me joining some guild from another website.. :| |
| 21:29.14 | zeeg | I host TFI.. |
| 21:29.18 | Cair | it's okay, we love you anyway |
| 21:29.23 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/tfi/ |
| 21:29.24 | zeeg | :| |
| 21:29.32 | Kolth | Is it considered common practice to release Nightly builds when you don't update your code base for weeks at a time? |
| 21:29.34 | Cair | that was to Tain :p |
| 21:29.41 | zeeg | 40% of wowguru's users are using firefox, woot |
| 21:30.17 | Cair | shouryuu: send tell to Cairenn |
| 21:30.35 | zeeg | 98% of our users have over a 1024x728 resolution |
| 21:30.35 | zeeg | woot |
| 21:30.53 | Cide | I might, but I'm lazy |
| 21:31.26 | Anduin|zzz | who the heck is using under 1024x728 ? |
| 21:31.28 | Malivil | 1im one of gthem |
| 21:31.31 | Beladona | back in a bit, be good! |
| 21:31.34 | Malivil | in voth those categories |
| 21:31.34 | Cair | Cide: :) |
| 21:31.37 | Malivil | *bote |
| 21:31.39 | Malivil | *both |
| 21:31.40 | Malivil | lol |
| 21:31.57 | Bela|AFK | Cair: we should just accept the tabard vote and move on to colors |
| 21:32.09 | Cair | meh, will give it till tomorrow |
| 21:32.12 | Bela|AFK | k |
| 21:32.13 | Tain | Mauve and Orange! |
| 21:32.25 | Bela|AFK | I can post the pictures I put in Staff yesterday |
| 21:32.30 | Bela|AFK | if we use wrench |
| 21:32.34 | Tain | Maybe Burnt Sienna. |
| 21:32.43 | Anduin|zzz | my 8 yr old iMac is even running 1024x728 |
| 21:32.56 | zeeg | Anduin|zzz, crazy people |
| 21:33.16 | Cair | wb AnduinLothar |
| 21:33.16 | zeeg | but considering people still design at 800 width, just a nice number to know |
| 21:33.58 | Bela|AFK | that high res ddo client is huge |
| 21:33.58 | Tain | People who like 800x600, people with limited sight, people who don't know they can change it, lots of people. |
| 21:34.05 | Bela|AFK | gonna have to let it download while I am gone |
| 21:34.25 | Tain | Dance Dance Ovulation? |
| 21:34.26 | AnduinLothar | half blind is a good reason i spose |
| 21:34.29 | zeeg | ya bela |
| 21:34.31 | zeeg | im at 700mb of it |
| 21:34.31 | Tekkub | I run 1024x768x3 ^^ |
| 21:34.39 | zeeg | 1124 here |
| 21:34.51 | zeeg | does anyone have vanguard beta? |
| 21:34.53 | Bela|AFK | 1280 here, 1920 on my laptop |
| 21:34.58 | zeeg | hopefully ill have an account within the next couple days, but i dont yet |
| 21:35.05 | AnduinLothar | 1680x1050 woot |
| 21:35.38 | Tekkub | I guess mine's really 3072x768 when you look at the desktop coords |
| 21:35.46 | Tain | Yeah I'm 1280x768 |
| 21:36.05 | Tekkub | widescreen eh? |
| 21:36.08 | shouryuu | is leveling/playing a paladin a REAL pain? |
| 21:36.12 | Tain | Mmm it's nice. |
| 21:36.19 | AnduinLothar | not really shou |
| 21:36.23 | zeeg | shouryuu, not at all |
| 21:36.26 | Tain | Levelling with a Paladin is a pain if you hate having no challenge at all and blowing through things. |
| 21:36.35 | Tekkub | I'd like widescreen, but all in all I'm not gonna give up dual |
| 21:36.38 | Maldivia | Right click a mob, go fetch coffee... rinse repeat.. |
| 21:36.43 | Tain | Yeah I'd do the same, Tekkub. |
| 21:36.49 | Tekkub | if I were buying a monitor and could afford one, wide all the way |
| 21:36.55 | AnduinLothar | once you get the lvl 20 hammer you fly through the next 20 lvls |
| 21:36.56 | shouryuu | ok should I go druid or pally? |
| 21:37.01 | Tain | Dell is releasing a 30" LCD to compete with the Apple Cinema display though. |
| 21:37.04 | zeeg | when this breaks, ill buy something fancy, til then i have no reason :) |
| 21:37.06 | Tekkub | but since I'm "establised" with my 3, meh on it all |
| 21:37.20 | zeeg | 1124 fits everythin for me :) |
| 21:37.32 | AnduinLothar | i love my widescreen |
| 21:37.53 | pagefault | argh |
| 21:38.01 | pagefault | why do people join an instance group and say they only have an hour |
| 21:38.13 | shouryuu | haha |
| 21:38.14 | Tekkub | cause they only have an hour? |
| 21:38.25 | *** join/#wowi-lounge RedcXe (i=RedcXe@cpe-72-225-160-49.si.res.rr.com) |
| 21:38.31 | AnduinLothar | u coudl do it with a good 10 man grp |
| 21:38.33 | pagefault | i'm just glad we are getting this sorted out BEFORE we get to the instance |
| 21:38.51 | Tekkub | what you don't like surprizes? |
| 21:38.59 | AnduinLothar | or a grp with all epics |
| 21:39.00 | pagefault | not really |
| 21:39.08 | pagefault | this is a 5 man scholo run |
| 21:39.14 | AnduinLothar | 4manning fd strat is fun |
| 21:39.14 | pagefault | so expect 3 hours or more |
| 21:40.35 | pagefault | someone though WC = water closet |
| 21:40.39 | pagefault | and asked why they needed a group for that |
| 21:40.43 | pagefault | err thought |
| 21:40.52 | shouryuu | lol |
| 21:40.56 | ForgottenLords | hehe |
| 21:41.14 | Cair | "zeeg: Keeping up w/ the community doesn't involve me joining some guild from another website.. :|" and the difference between that and being on "some irc channel from another website" is ... what, precisely? |
| 21:45.44 | zeeg | im already on like 50 channels |
| 21:45.46 | zeeg | 1 more dont hurt |
| 21:45.47 | zeeg | + i dont play wow |
| 21:46.17 | zeeg | Tekkub, i had dual monitors at one point, it was nice, but ill survive :) |
| 21:46.26 | Tekkub | :P |
| 21:47.36 | Tekkub | There's something... odd about not playing the game yet running a site for it... |
| 21:47.37 | Maldivia | zeeg: so that's why I see you in the sargeras channel ? |
| 21:48.22 | zeeg | ya im in a lot |
| 21:48.29 | zeeg | usually if they request the bot ill either temp idle or perm idle there |
| 21:48.38 | zeeg | Tekkub, i do a good job at it, so it works for me :) |
| 21:48.53 | zeeg | i find more entertainment in working on the website than i do playing the game so :) |
| 21:49.00 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=Matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 21:49.23 | Tem | rawr! |
| 21:49.39 | shouryuu | rrawr! |
| 21:49.47 | Cair | *purr* |
| 21:50.48 | Cair | ~tabard |
| 21:50.49 | purl | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2563 - vote for your tabard! |
| 21:51.28 | shouryuu | I hate |
| 21:51.35 | shouryuu | people who hate microsoft |
| 21:51.38 | shouryuu | and love mac |
| 21:51.55 | shouryuu | because it's suposed to be less monopistic and business oriented |
| 21:52.12 | shouryuu | *monopolistic |
| 21:52.14 | AnduinLothar | mmm, who ever claims that as a reason? |
| 21:52.29 | AnduinLothar | apple would be a monopoly too if they could |
| 21:52.39 | shouryuu | I know |
| 21:52.47 | AnduinLothar | thats what they did with the ipod |
| 21:52.52 | shouryuu | I know |
| 21:53.08 | zeeg | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/module/reports/4879-4886/summary.xml |
| 21:53.09 | zeeg | thats neat and all |
| 21:53.13 | shouryuu | that's why I hate people who think that mac doesn't want to control everything they can like microsoft does |
| 21:53.16 | zeeg | but a bit of a pain in the ass to find whats changed |
| 21:53.20 | AnduinLothar | well i don't think i've ever heard anyone say "i liek apple cause they aren't a monopoly" |
| 21:53.34 | Tain | You don't have to use it if it's a pain in the ass. |
| 21:53.41 | Tain | I find it easy, and very informative. |
| 21:53.46 | zeeg | Tain, that was constructive criticism. |
| 21:53.50 | zeeg | i dont use it.. |
| 21:54.16 | zeeg | the links (firefox/ie links up top) are extremely screwy in ie5 too |
| 21:54.39 | shouryuu | Well I think that most people who say "I hate microsoft because they are a monopoly! Mac is so cool!" are saying "I like apple cause they aren't a monopoly" |
| 21:54.59 | Tain | hmm nope, all looks good to me. |
| 21:55.02 | zeeg | also a test server version, wouldnt it not have "live changes", and live versions dont have "test changes" so whats the point of having both links? |
| 21:55.05 | AnduinLothar | cool ~= monopoly, but w/e |
| 21:55.05 | krka | hm, i gotta know: how do you take something that's rendered as a square, and draw transparency on top of it? |
| 21:55.11 | krka | if that's how the minimap works |
| 21:55.21 | cladhaire | zeeg: its important to know whats change dbetween different live versions and different test versions, and between the two |
| 21:55.22 | zeeg | all links = buggy actually |
| 21:55.24 | cladhaire | wow. |
| 21:55.25 | zeeg | the underline breaks |
| 21:55.28 | cladhaire | just stop |
| 21:55.40 | cladhaire | your criticism is less than constructive, and that's being nice. |
| 21:55.42 | cladhaire | i'm checking out. |
| 21:55.45 | zeeg | uhh |
| 21:55.49 | zeeg | ok? |
| 21:55.51 | Tain | What links are buggy? |
| 21:55.53 | clad|afk | heading to the mall, i'll be back in a bit. |
| 21:55.57 | zeeg | Any link, is breaking in ff1.5 |
| 21:56.05 | zeeg | and my criticism should be welcomed, it will better your site |
| 21:56.12 | Tem | zeeg, seriously, stop |
| 21:56.15 | zeeg | if you dont want it, thats problem, ill remember to not take the time to help anyone next time |
| 21:56.15 | Tain | Constructive criticism will be accepted. |
| 21:56.23 | clad|afk | zeeg: You're being the equivalent of the user who walks in and says "My computer is broke, fix it" |
| 21:56.29 | Tem | I have more patience that most people and you are getting on my nerves |
| 21:56.35 | Tain | To suggest that you somehow know how to better a site is... open to opinion. |
| 21:56.40 | krka | hm, one problem with object orientation in WoW: how do you store the objects in SavedVariables? the functions can't be written, I think |
| 21:56.43 | zeeg | I tell you what's wrong, what should be changed, i dont tell you how to change it. |
| 21:56.51 | zeeg | Tain, except i do it for a living. |
| 21:57.01 | Tain | Lots of people do lots of things for a living. |
| 21:57.07 | clad|afk | Zeeg: saying "Shit's broken" doesn't help. The links work beautifully for us. |
| 21:57.09 | Cair | zeeg: post your *suggestions* here: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1245 |
| 21:57.12 | Tain | I've worked in the tech industry long enough to know tha tyou don't have to know what you're doing ot get paid for it. :) |
| 21:57.21 | zeeg | clad|afk, mousing over the links the underline flashes on and off in ff1.5 |
| 21:57.25 | Tem | krka: what I do is make a separate table for my SV |
| 21:57.35 | clad|afk | Zeeg: then post constructively.. you know who made the site, and if you didn't take 2 seconds and find out. |
| 21:57.42 | clad|afk | make a thread for Bel aon the forums.. and be constructive. |
| 21:57.44 | Tem | krka: (like a different table than my object table) |
| 21:57.47 | zeeg | I know its part of WoWI, that's all I know |
| 21:57.54 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1245 |
| 21:57.55 | Cair | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1245 |
| 21:58.05 | krka | yes, but that kinda breaks the OO, doesn't it? |
| 21:58.17 | Tem | krka: not really |
| 21:58.27 | krka | or I suppose you could construct the objects with a reference to the data source |
| 21:58.28 | zeeg | just post what i said, i cba to make a reply |
| 21:58.50 | Tain | Then don't bother saying it here if you're not actually interested in contributing. |
| 21:58.52 | Tem | ##SavedVariables: TemDB |
| 21:58.57 | Tem | TemDB = {} |
| 21:58.59 | AnduinLothar | what're u talkign about? just make a sepperate database table |
| 21:59.09 | Tem | Tem = {} -- My addon object |
| 21:59.11 | AnduinLothar | ^^ tem |
| 21:59.16 | Cair | zeeg, if you can't be bothered to post it where the site author will see it, then don't cause an arguement in the channel |
| 21:59.18 | Tem | Tem.db = TemDB |
| 21:59.26 | zeeg | dont cause arguement? |
| 21:59.27 | zeeg | seriously |
| 21:59.32 | Cair | that's what I said |
| 21:59.34 | zeeg | i honestly dont know why I'm in this channel |
| 21:59.39 | Tem | then leave |
| 21:59.39 | Tain | That makes a lot of us. :) |
| 21:59.44 | zeeg | might as well |
| 21:59.45 | Cair | guys, enough |
| 21:59.58 | Tem | good riddance |
| 21:59.59 | Tain | Yay! |
| 22:00.08 | Cair | guys .... |
| 22:00.10 | Cair | stop it |
| 22:00.42 | Tem | now, where was I? |
| 22:00.54 | Tain | Tem.db - TemDB |
| 22:00.58 | Tain | = |
| 22:01.06 | Tem | oh yes, krka, does what I just suggested "break" in your opinion? |
| 22:01.22 | krka | ok, but let's say I have a "point"-object (very simple example, but it gets the point through) |
| 22:01.23 | Tem | s/"break"/"break" OO/ |
| 22:01.33 | krka | point = {x = ... y = ...} |
| 22:01.38 | shouryuu | what does "break" do exactly? |
| 22:01.41 | krka | how do you convert that? |
| 22:01.43 | Tem | oh I see, how do you save variables for different instances? |
| 22:01.46 | shouryuu | I always though break just ended the function |
| 22:01.49 | Tem | is that what you're asking? |
| 22:01.53 | krka | point = { db = ... } |
| 22:01.55 | krka | seems silly |
| 22:02.14 | krka | break as a lua keywords ends the current "nesting" level |
| 22:02.14 | Tain | I think they're talking about breaking things, not break the function. |
| 22:02.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge MoonWolf (i=MoonWolf@ip51ccaa81.speed.planet.nl) |
| 22:02.22 | krka | if / while / function |
| 22:02.31 | krka | yup, that's what I meant |
| 22:02.33 | MoonWolf | ? |
| 22:02.38 | MoonWolf | what did i get into now ? |
| 22:02.54 | Tain | What do you mean? |
| 22:03.05 | MoonWolf | if / while / function |
| 22:03.11 | krka | I'm wondering how to do OO in Lua and still be able to save stuff in SavedVariables |
| 22:03.20 | krka | never mind the if / while / function |
| 22:03.22 | krka | wasn't anything important |
| 22:03.33 | shouryuu | I just hate the kind of web site that make you go through all the crap products you don't want to see before being even remotly able to find yhe one you want to |
| 22:04.34 | Tem | krka: are you wondering about saving variables for multiple instances of your class? |
| 22:04.50 | krka | basically, yes |
| 22:04.57 | krka | but also for just one instance |
| 22:05.15 | Tem | the only way I can think of for a single instance is what I already suggested |
| 22:05.22 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 22:05.31 | shouryuu | Ok I feel illetrate... I can't find a price for the mini Ipod on apple.com.sg |
| 22:05.43 | Tain | haha |
| 22:05.46 | Tain | Well there's so many ipods |
| 22:05.47 | Tem | for multiple instances it gets messy |
| 22:05.53 | Guillotine | hey guys. i have a question. would it be 'legal' to charge in-game money to make a guild a custom addon? |
| 22:05.56 | Tain | It can't be surprising. |
| 22:06.01 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:06.02 | krka | would this be a correct guess: if I try to save a table in SavedVariables, it simply ignores all the functions to save? |
| 22:06.10 | Guillotine | this guild offered to pay me 40g to make them an addon :0 |
| 22:06.17 | shouryuu | There are HUGE adds for ipod shuffle, ipod nano, and ipod video |
| 22:06.20 | Tem | I think it puts [key] = <function> |
| 22:06.21 | Tain | Real money would definitely be no. In-game money? That's an interesting idea. |
| 22:06.22 | shouryuu | but nothing for mini ipod |
| 22:06.26 | Tem | or something |
| 22:06.33 | krka | huh? |
| 22:06.35 | shouryuu | guillotine what add-on did they want? |
| 22:06.40 | shouryuu | and what did ou answer? |
| 22:06.45 | krka | i have never seen it being able to store functions |
| 22:06.48 | Tain | Yeah what add-on do they want? |
| 22:06.57 | Tem | in the Saved Variables I don't remember how it tries to seralize functions |
| 22:06.59 | krka | Guillotine: why wouldn't it be legal? |
| 22:07.01 | Guillotine | an addon that has a little panel displaying the 5-second rule and counts it down to improve healer efficiency |
| 22:07.09 | Tem | I know that it just ignores metatables |
| 22:07.16 | Guillotine | and I said I'd probably do it |
| 22:07.21 | Guillotine | they also want some other things included in it |
| 22:07.22 | krka | hmm... though gold selling breaks the EULA I suppose |
| 22:07.34 | Guillotine | right. its not really gold selling though... |
| 22:07.39 | MoonWolf | so cast the last sucsesfull spellcast and start counting down, reset at sucsefull spellcast. |
| 22:07.41 | Tem | and it doesn't do too well with cylces |
| 22:07.42 | krka | which is basically the same thing as exchanging outside world services for ingame gold |
| 22:07.43 | MoonWolf | i could do that. |
| 22:07.45 | Guillotine | their paying for a 'kind of' in game service |
| 22:07.52 | krka | no, coding is not in-game |
| 22:07.54 | krka | imo |
| 22:08.00 | Guillotine | thats why I said kind of |
| 22:08.02 | shouryuu | imo it's perfectly ethical |
| 22:08.08 | MoonWolf | yes. |
| 22:08.15 | krka | imo it's ethical, but I'm not so sure what the EULA says |
| 22:08.19 | Guillotine | exactly |
| 22:08.26 | Tain | Yeah. |
| 22:08.33 | krka | i say go ahead, won't be a problem most likely |
| 22:08.35 | MoonWolf | But ehtical and legal don't mean the same thing as krka pointed out. |
| 22:08.36 | Tem | damnit! where is the "always on top" option in winamp? |
| 22:08.40 | krka | unless bliz hears of it and throws a tantrum |
| 22:08.43 | Guillotine | lol |
| 22:08.45 | shouryuu | yeah |
| 22:08.50 | Tain | Just keep it on the low-low |
| 22:08.54 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:08.59 | Guillotine | I know. only the guild master is handling it... |
| 22:09.04 | Guillotine | hell just distribute it to othre people |
| 22:09.07 | shouryuu | aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrghhhhhh this is KILLING me |
| 22:09.13 | krka | btw, is it coding so _just_ they can have it, or is it to be released in the public too? |
| 22:09.30 | Guillotine | mainly for them. although the guild master said he didn't mind if i released it to the public too |
| 22:09.51 | Guillotine | he has tons of money and said he'd be more than happy to pay for it to be made |
| 22:09.59 | Guillotine | *shrug* |
| 22:10.03 | Tain | Should have told him 100g then |
| 22:10.06 | Guillotine | lol |
| 22:10.11 | Tem | 100g? |
| 22:10.13 | Tem | too little |
| 22:10.17 | Tain | You're right. |
| 22:10.22 | Guillotine | haha. don't want to be greedy |
| 22:10.22 | shouryuu | for a 5second rule fram? |
| 22:10.31 | Guillotine | if it was something like CTRA maybe... |
| 22:10.36 | shouryuu | Right now I'd take about anything |
| 22:10.37 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:10.37 | Tem | I can farm 100g in less time than I takes me to write something |
| 22:10.37 | Guillotine | but not for a 5 second rule frame |
| 22:10.38 | Tain | Timexbars, five minutes, done. |
| 22:10.55 | Tain | From scratch yourself, maybe an hour including testing? |
| 22:10.55 | krka | this seems like a fairly easy addon |
| 22:10.57 | Tem | what's it do again? |
| 22:11.06 | Guillotine | krka: it is |
| 22:11.06 | Tain | And an hour being max. |
| 22:11.08 | Tem | I wasn't paying attn |
| 22:11.08 | krka | just needs a frame to show the counter and keeping track of when the last spell was cast |
| 22:11.17 | shouryuu | Tem, what class are you and where do you farm? |
| 22:11.21 | Tem | mage |
| 22:11.23 | MoonWolf | yeah, its simply and handy... |
| 22:11.24 | Tem | tyr's hand |
| 22:11.45 | shouryuu | Humm what do you farm there? |
| 22:11.50 | MoonWolf | money |
| 22:11.50 | Tain | Hands |
| 22:11.55 | Tem | the praetorians |
| 22:11.57 | shouryuu | lol? |
| 22:12.04 | Guillotine | Now, do I want to use the WoW UI Designer to do this? Itll improve development time by a ton, but will really bloat the xml file... |
| 22:12.21 | Tem | lots of green drops, plush usually 20s+ on each corse |
| 22:12.26 | Tain | I personally would say no, Guillotine. It's an easy enough thing. |
| 22:12.26 | Tem | plus* |
| 22:12.30 | krka | can't you trim it down manually later? |
| 22:12.36 | MoonWolf | Guillotine, grab timex, put in a timex bar for it. |
| 22:12.38 | Tain | Or, use the designer and edit manually. |
| 22:12.41 | Tain | LIke, krka says. |
| 22:12.51 | Guillotine | ya. I could |
| 22:12.52 | shouryuu | What's your average gold/hour? |
| 22:12.55 | Tain | You can just rip out entire sections. |
| 22:13.25 | Tain | I started the VisorGUI with it, went from 15k down to 5k when I went in myself. |
| 22:13.54 | Tem | Tain: you should play with AceGUI |
| 22:14.11 | Tem | it's crazy easy to make stuff once you get the feel for it |
| 22:14.39 | Guillotine | ok. now I need some info on 5-second rule. it counts from the time the spell STOPS casting, right? |
| 22:14.45 | Tem | aye |
| 22:14.51 | Guillotine | and same with channeled spells? |
| 22:14.56 | Tain | Tem: I will, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to make it another dependancy. But part of it is just that I learned so much about the xml layouts already. |
| 22:14.59 | Guillotine | when it either runs our or is interrupted? |
| 22:15.07 | shouryuu | doesn't muse do that for you? |
| 22:15.32 | Tain | Which of course means I learned some of the limitations of the XML too. Setting most of the stuff in Lua does make certain things easier. |
| 22:16.25 | Tain | Ok I've been putting it off long enough and the temperature has dropped four degrees since I first thought about it. |
| 22:16.29 | Tain | I'm going to shovel out my car. |
| 22:16.29 | Tem | Tain: yeah, I know that. Took me a while to get used to XML in general and I didn't start playing with AceGUI until I was comfortable with XML |
| 22:16.58 | Tem | like had been comfortable with it for a few months |
| 22:17.04 | Guillotine | Wait- according to http://www.wowwiki.com/5_second_rule, the 5-second rule starts when you spend mana |
| 22:17.14 | Guillotine | so does this mean that it is at the begining of a spell cast? |
| 22:17.18 | Guillotine | or is it still at the end? |
| 22:17.20 | Tem | end |
| 22:17.38 | Guillotine | great. now I have to put in checkng for clearcasting (5-second rule doesnt apply) |
| 22:17.44 | krka | sorry for being kinda dumb but... is 1.9 out now or not? |
| 22:17.52 | Guillotine | only on test servers |
| 22:17.53 | Tem | nope |
| 22:18.09 | Tem | Aparently all the "lose control of your character" effects are seriously bugged |
| 22:18.22 | Tem | sheep,fear ect |
| 22:18.34 | Guillotine | well, thats nothing new |
| 22:18.36 | shouryuu | bugged? |
| 22:18.39 | shouryuu | how? |
| 22:18.40 | Guillotine | their bugged on live servers too... |
| 22:18.46 | Tem | Guillotine: not like this |
| 22:18.51 | Guillotine | oh |
| 22:18.59 | Tem | shouryuu: they cause the player to be unable to move after the effect breaks |
| 22:19.02 | futrtrubl | how bugged? |
| 22:19.07 | futrtrubl | oops |
| 22:19.08 | Tem | but they think they can move |
| 22:19.18 | Tem | so you get this weird effect where you run around |
| 22:19.19 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:19.22 | Tem | but really to the server |
| 22:19.27 | Tem | you aren't moving at all |
| 22:19.29 | krka | i need some good info on how the new SetTexCoord works, can anyone point me to some decent documentation, if there is any? |
| 22:19.48 | Tem | krka: you best bet is to read Iriel's post in the 1.9 thread asking for it |
| 22:19.54 | shouryuu | and I thought it couldn't get worst |
| 22:19.57 | futrtrubl | no documentation but I think I understand it if you want |
| 22:21.36 | krka | gah, stupid blocked private messages |
| 22:21.48 | krka | hm |
| 22:21.50 | krka | maybe I should register |
| 22:22.05 | AnduinLothar | wow, i get prosuctive when i'm leaving the house for a week.. cleaned half the apt already |
| 22:22.27 | shouryuu | ~productivity |
| 22:22.28 | purl | yay! i mean.. boo. |
| 22:22.38 | Cair | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.39 | pagefault | damn a mage with 8000k mana |
| 22:22.44 | pagefault | err 8k |
| 22:22.45 | pagefault | :P |
| 22:22.57 | futrtrubl | 8M mana, woot ;'] |
| 22:24.21 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:24.34 | shouryuu | mana is overrated |
| 22:24.54 | Tem | mana /is/ overrated |
| 22:25.01 | Tem | regen is where it's at |
| 22:25.07 | shouryuu | ok Mac is going to be the death of me |
| 22:25.15 | shouryuu | I still can't find the price of a mini ipod |
| 22:25.20 | shouryuu | on THEIR web site |
| 22:25.26 | Tem | I can cast frostbolts for 20 minutes without stopping before I go oom |
| 22:25.33 | Tem | (not kidding) |
| 22:25.56 | shouryuu | How much spirit you got? |
| 22:26.01 | Tem | not spirit |
| 22:26.10 | Tem | mana /5s regen gear |
| 22:26.25 | shouryuu | how much of hat? |
| 22:26.27 | shouryuu | *that |
| 22:26.31 | Tem | I don't actually remember |
| 22:26.38 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:26.39 | Tem | but the last time I added it all up and did the math |
| 22:26.41 | MoonWolf | some pretty decent amount |
| 22:26.48 | Tem | I could cast frostbolts for 20 minutes |
| 22:27.05 | Tem | (now that includes my mana ruby and the use ability on my robe) |
| 22:27.08 | MoonWolf | try it sometime.... on an evade bugged mob, good thing to waste time on |
| 22:27.14 | shouryuu | I'm so happy!! |
| 22:27.19 | Tem | oh I did try it |
| 22:27.19 | shouryuu | going back to singapor in 5 days! |
| 22:27.21 | Tem | oh Ony |
| 22:27.25 | Tem | on* |
| 22:27.28 | shouryuu | leaving gloomy france in 5 days! |
| 22:27.28 | shouryuu | rrawrr! |
| 22:27.41 | Tem | hah |
| 22:27.50 | MoonWolf | singapor / frane ... ill take france. |
| 22:27.52 | Tem | france is in that gray gray rainy gray part of the year? |
| 22:27.56 | MoonWolf | france* |
| 22:28.26 | shouryuu | Well I'm in paris |
| 22:28.41 | shouryuu | Paris is always in that gray gray gray rainy part of year |
| 22:28.45 | shouryuu | and if it isn't |
| 22:28.50 | pagefault | when I went to paris |
| 22:28.52 | pagefault | I had a hot dog |
| 22:28.55 | pagefault | and it was the best one I ever had |
| 22:29.12 | shouryuu | there's always a dog shit ready to be steped on or some ass hole waiting to be impolite and waste your day |
| 22:29.13 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:29.20 | Tem | shouryuu: lol |
| 22:29.26 | shouryuu | and Singapore = equator = heat = gooood |
| 22:29.30 | Tem | I went to paris a few summers ago |
| 22:29.33 | Tem | I enjoyed it |
| 22:29.37 | shouryuu | Yeah |
| 22:29.40 | shouryuu | but living there |
| 22:29.41 | Tem | I only ran into one of those assholes |
| 22:29.47 | shouryuu | is different |
| 22:30.04 | shouryuu | You don't notice but people there are just all stressed out |
| 22:30.05 | Tem | oh and there was a japanese family in the elevator to the top of the tower that had bad BO |
| 22:30.15 | shouryuu | and that stresses yo out |
| 22:30.25 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:30.57 | shouryuu | but singapore = the ro><><orz |
| 22:31.07 | Tem | It was fun... I got to feel what it must feel like for people in the US who can't speak english very well |
| 22:31.18 | Tem | my french is ~ok |
| 22:31.23 | shouryuu | bonjour? |
| 22:31.24 | shouryuu | :p |
| 22:31.33 | shouryuu | HEHE |
| 22:31.37 | shouryuu | whoops caps |
| 22:31.48 | Tem | I took it in school for like 9 years |
| 22:31.54 | Tem | but then I didn't use it at all for a while |
| 22:31.58 | Tem | so then I got to france |
| 22:32.06 | Tem | and I had trouble forming a damn sentence |
| 22:32.25 | MoonWolf | no habla french... :P |
| 22:32.26 | shouryuu | I've been taking spanish classes for like 5 years |
| 22:32.30 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:32.41 | shouryuu | I couldn't even order a pizza when I got there |
| 22:32.43 | Tem | (Tem is from Louisiana. French is a big deal around here) |
| 22:33.00 | shouryuu | louisiana was french' |
| 22:33.12 | shouryuu | so shouryuu understands why :P |
| 22:33.13 | krka | ~ok = about ok or not ok? |
| 22:33.22 | Tem | (but it's not parisian french it's cajun french) |
| 22:33.30 | Tem | about ok |
| 22:33.32 | shouryuu | hehe |
| 22:33.36 | Tem | krka: you need to stop thinking in LUA |
| 22:33.45 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:33.50 | Tem | think of it as a hand signal |
| 22:34.08 | krka | I can't :( |
| 22:34.56 | shouryuu | I am never setting foot in my IT class for a while |
| 22:35.00 | shouryuu | we are learning Pascal |
| 22:35.11 | MoonWolf | okay whenever we are not talking lua try to use ! for not. |
| 22:35.15 | MoonWolf | it confuses the hell out of me. |
| 22:35.26 | shouryuu | and took two hours to explain what "if/while/for/reapeat" were |
| 22:35.32 | shouryuu | <=== died a bit that day |
| 22:35.33 | groll | does anyone know what ui this is? and mainly the one up to the left? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/richterscale54/nurfedHUD1.jpg |
| 22:35.46 | Tem | yeah I don't get why they used ~ instead of ! for now |
| 22:35.49 | Tem | er, not* |
| 22:35.51 | krka | Haskell uses /= for not equal, :) |
| 22:35.55 | shouryuu | top left dunno |
| 22:36.05 | MoonWolf | I have no clue groll, new to me. |
| 22:36.14 | shouryuu | The rings are the modifeid ver of stats ring by DAB i think |
| 22:36.21 | MoonWolf | or pascal uses := for asingments |
| 22:36.25 | shouryuu | yeah |
| 22:36.32 | MoonWolf | damn that annoyed the hell out of me a LOOONG time |
| 22:36.36 | groll | well it's nurfed and some more stuff :P |
| 22:36.47 | shouryuu | then viewport and propably titan bar |
| 22:36.54 | shouryuu | hits mod is the combat log |
| 22:36.56 | groll | but i want that top left thing.. it's cute :P |
| 22:37.09 | MoonWolf | clear font too |
| 22:37.10 | shouryuu | Yeah it's nice |
| 22:37.14 | shouryuu | yeah agreed |
| 22:37.17 | Tem | groll: what top left thing? |
| 22:37.36 | MoonWolf | clean minimap |
| 22:37.37 | Tem | you mean the unit frame? |
| 22:37.41 | groll | yep |
| 22:37.42 | shouryuu | yeah |
| 22:37.45 | Tem | probably DUF |
| 22:37.51 | groll | duf? hmmmm |
| 22:37.58 | Tem | Discord Unit Frames |
| 22:37.59 | shouryuu | discord unit frames |
| 22:38.01 | shouryuu | damn |
| 22:38.02 | groll | ahaa |
| 22:38.04 | shouryuu | beat me to it! |
| 22:38.28 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:38.28 | shouryuu | http://www.sublimeserpent.com/ui.jpg |
| 22:38.30 | shouryuu | is like |
| 22:38.31 | pagefault | AQ is so ownage |
| 22:38.43 | shouryuu | ZOMG what cluttered my screen when I entered combat 0_o |
| 22:39.08 | groll | shouryuu eheeeew i almost barfed at that ui :P |
| 22:39.23 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:39.29 | shouryuu | yeah it's just wring |
| 22:39.31 | shouryuu | *wrong |
| 22:39.34 | Tem | I threw up in my mouth a little |
| 22:39.55 | groll | waay to cluttered :P |
| 22:39.57 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:40.01 | Tem | clearly using DAB too |
| 22:40.04 | shouryuu | the names fonts on this one are cool |
| 22:40.04 | shouryuu | http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3338/ui5qn.jpg |
| 22:40.12 | Tem | because it's got those hiddeous yellow borders |
| 22:40.30 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:40.40 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Ktron (n=Ktron@student2a-64.unh.edu) |
| 22:40.49 | shouryuu | I don't really like DAB |
| 22:40.51 | shouryuu | never used it |
| 22:40.57 | Tem | I've said this before, but I'll reiterate: Lozareth needs to get over his fetish for yellow and red. |
| 22:41.04 | shouryuu | but each time I saw a screenie of someusing using it I was like EEEKKK |
| 22:41.08 | shouryuu | yeah agreed |
| 22:41.13 | Tem | I go blind when I open his configs |
| 22:41.13 | shouryuu | the red is just |
| 22:41.17 | Tem | and the site is worse |
| 22:41.20 | groll | eeeeew |
| 22:41.21 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:41.25 | MoonWolf | okay, somone explain this to me |
| 22:41.27 | shouryuu | agreed |
| 22:41.28 | MoonWolf | i have this line |
| 22:41.28 | MoonWolf | if(Static[1][1] ~= nil) then OHStatic1:SetText(Static[1][1]) end |
| 22:41.53 | MoonWolf | and i get a attempt to index field ? (a nil value) error |
| 22:42.05 | shouryuu | got that a while ago |
| 22:42.06 | shouryuu | dunno why |
| 22:42.10 | shouryuu | same problem |
| 22:42.10 | Tem | then Static is nil |
| 22:42.14 | Tem | or rather |
| 22:42.19 | Tem | Either Static is nil |
| 22:42.20 | shouryuu | yeah but there's an if statement |
| 22:42.23 | Tem | or Static[1] is nil |
| 22:42.35 | shouryuu | but the conditional? |
| 22:42.45 | Tem | the error is from the conditional |
| 22:42.52 | Tem | rewrite it like this |
| 22:42.59 | shouryuu | I've had that error before |
| 22:43.02 | shouryuu | simila error |
| 22:43.08 | shouryuu | and it passed the conidional fine |
| 22:43.24 | Tem | if(Static and Static[1] and Static[1][1]) then OHStatic1:SetText(Static[1][1]) end |
| 22:43.59 | MoonWolf | but why does it error, i am only accessing Static[1][1]... i dont get WHY |
| 22:44.13 | Tem | Ok lets break down what happens there |
| 22:44.27 | Tem | If(Static[1][1]) then ... |
| 22:44.45 | Tem | if trys to index some table named Static at index 1 |
| 22:44.51 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 22:44.55 | Tem | if Static is nil then you get that error |
| 22:45.10 | MoonWolf | but something is in there... the subtabel is in there. |
| 22:45.27 | Tem | however, the error message would have been different if it was Static that was missing |
| 22:45.52 | Tem | so after it finds something in Static[1] it trys to index it at field 1 |
| 22:46.12 | Tem | if what lies in Static[1] is not a table (nil, string, number ect...) you will get an error |
| 22:46.22 | Tem | in this case the error you get is attempt to index a nil value |
| 22:46.30 | Tem | because Static[1] is nil |
| 22:46.43 | MoonWolf | okay |
| 22:47.03 | Tem | so if you rewrite your if to check if stuff is there before indexing it you won't get the error |
| 22:47.10 | MoonWolf | indeed |
| 22:47.12 | MoonWolf | thank you tem |
| 22:47.16 | Tem | if(Static and Static[1] and Static[1][1]) then ... end |
| 22:47.23 | Tem | np |
| 22:48.12 | shouryuu | I get an error onl line 4 here http://wow.pastebin.com/460143 Is it for the same reason? |
| 22:48.51 | Cide | hmm, is it true that UnitName("raid" .. GetNumRaidMembers()) always will be the player? |
| 22:48.58 | Tem | that pastebin isn't loading for me |
| 22:49.19 | MoonWolf | it is for me... |
| 22:49.32 | shouryuu | mind if I paste here then? |
| 22:49.32 | MoonWolf | this is the line that bugs him |
| 22:49.38 | shouryuu | it's 6 lines? |
| 22:49.43 | Tem | Cide: I have no idea |
| 22:49.49 | MoonWolf | editBox = nil; |
| 22:49.49 | MoonWolf | if ( editBox )then |
| 22:49.49 | MoonWolf | for index=ListNumberStart, min(m,GetNumGuildMembers()) do |
| 22:49.49 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.49 | MoonWolf | n = n + 1; |
| 22:49.50 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:49.52 | MoonWolf | end |
| 22:50.00 | Tem | what error do you get? |
| 22:50.21 | Tem | wait, it will /never/ get into that if block |
| 22:50.33 | Tem | is that your intention? |
| 22:50.41 | shouryuu | An error saying that editBox[index] was nil and SetNumber worked the following way SetNumber(number) |
| 22:50.58 | MoonWolf | setnumber should never be called..... |
| 22:51.01 | Cide | heh, that code can never ben run if it looks like that |
| 22:51.13 | MoonWolf | it wont get past the if........ |
| 22:51.14 | shouryuu | yeah the editBox = nil happens in another function |
| 22:51.15 | Tem | shouryuu: go get the error again and paste it exactly here |
| 22:51.20 | AnduinLothar | if nil than play games end |
| 22:51.32 | MoonWolf | hahaha |
| 22:51.42 | shouryuu | ok I'll explain |
| 22:51.46 | Tem | if true then AnduinLothar = "Can't spell" end |
| 22:51.55 | shouryuu | lol |
| 22:51.56 | AnduinLothar | pretty much |
| 22:51.56 | Tem | (me either) |
| 22:51.56 | shouryuu | meannie |
| 22:51.58 | shouryuu | 2 sec |
| 22:52.13 | Tem | but I have gaim to tell me I spelled shit wrong |
| 22:52.33 | Ktron | I have concluded that its time to find a new irc client |
| 22:52.37 | Tem | Cide: I'll test that |
| 22:52.40 | AnduinLothar | isn't it more like AnduinLothar:EnableSpelling(nil) |
| 22:52.45 | Tem | haha |
| 22:53.00 | Cide | Tem: as far as I can tell, the player is always the last raidX id |
| 22:53.29 | Tem | I'm gonna try |
| 22:53.30 | shouryuu | doh I'm an idiot |
| 22:53.35 | shouryuu | I did editBox = {} |
| 22:53.40 | shouryuu | instead of editbox = nil |
| 22:53.51 | MoonWolf | that is something COMPLETELY different, as im sure you know. |
| 22:53.55 | shouryuu | yeah :p |
| 22:54.24 | krka | the empty set and nil can look alike to mathematicans or computer scientists |
| 22:54.29 | shouryuu | I r gud programer |
| 22:54.39 | shouryuu | I'm none of those |
| 22:54.43 | shouryuu | But sill |
| 22:55.05 | shouryuu | *still |
| 22:55.05 | Tem | Cide, I just tested and UnitName("raid" .. GetNumRaidMembers()) == UnitName("Player") |
| 22:55.54 | MoonWolf | shouryuu, im assuming that at some point in the loop editBox[index] is nill. |
| 22:56.11 | shouryuu | is there a mod that will say things like "Need help at Stables!" in AB depending on your position> |
| 22:56.26 | MoonWolf | hmmm, good idea |
| 22:56.44 | MoonWolf | could work for AV too. |
| 22:56.52 | MoonWolf | simply read out the minimap location.... |
| 22:57.21 | shouryuu | Is there a minimap position for AB? |
| 22:57.28 | shouryuu | I don't go there often so Don't know |
| 22:57.46 | MoonWolf | There is alway's a text above your default location... you can read that I am sure. |
| 22:58.05 | Tem | why would SendChatMessage(UnitName("raid" .. GetNumRaidMembers()) == UnitName("player"),nil,"RAID") cause an error? |
| 22:58.44 | shouryuu | humm |
| 22:58.54 | MoonWolf | what error ? |
| 22:59.12 | shouryuu | I don't understand what UnitName("raid" ..GetNumRaidMembers()) does |
| 22:59.18 | MoonWolf | i don't know much about the raid, but can you do a comparison there ? |
| 22:59.35 | MoonWolf | GetNumRaidMembers()) == UnitName("player" |
| 22:59.39 | Tem | nevermind I fixed it |
| 23:00.20 | shouryuu | lol |
| 23:01.20 | Tem | Cide, I just got a 10 man raid to do test it |
| 23:01.22 | Tem | and yes |
| 23:01.28 | Tem | in all cases it was true |
| 23:02.06 | shouryuu | tem how do you find 10 people to join a raid an test something |
| 23:02.22 | shouryuu | It took me an hour to find someone to join my guild and leave it right away |
| 23:02.34 | shouryuu | I really mean an hour |
| 23:02.44 | shouryuu | I even got insulted in the process |
| 23:02.55 | Tem | shouryuu: I'm an officer in a guild |
| 23:03.06 | Tem | when I say join my raid, people do it |
| 23:03.24 | shouryuu | ah :P |
| 23:03.49 | shouryuu | rawr :P |
| 23:04.38 | kremonte | firemaw down^^ |
| 23:04.46 | Tem | grats kremonte |
| 23:04.50 | kremonte | thanks, hehe |
| 23:04.57 | kremonte | our first day of attempts too |
| 23:10.04 | pagefault | crap |
| 23:10.06 | pagefault | soul fire resisted |
| 23:10.10 | pagefault | wasted shard |
| 23:10.11 | pagefault | gg bliz |
| 23:10.21 | kremonte | do you know how often shadowburn gets resisted |
| 23:10.25 | kremonte | Answer: Very Often |
| 23:10.41 | kremonte | and like, when something kills the mob before shadowburn goes off, you lose shard + cooldown |
| 23:12.49 | pagefault | working as intended |
| 23:14.12 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Iriel (n=daniel@adsl-66-123-190-42.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 23:14.14 | Tain | Holy crap I'm going to be sore tomorrow. I can feel it already, and that means tomorrow is going to be bad. |
| 23:15.18 | kremonte | death talon overseers walk like they're turtles walking on 2 legs |
| 23:15.38 | pagefault | I am about ot get my epic mount |
| 23:15.41 | pagefault | as soon as I release this damn imp |
| 23:15.43 | kremonte | :D cheer |
| 23:15.49 | Tain | Yay epic |
| 23:16.36 | pagefault | yes it will be even better in 1.9 when it only costs 150 mana to summon |
| 23:16.46 | AnduinLothar | woot |
| 23:16.55 | pagefault | pally whining got warlocks a buff |
| 23:16.56 | pagefault | :P |
| 23:17.41 | AnduinLothar | a fren |
| 23:18.32 | kremonte | Fun Fact: Linking a wand with windfury enchant in Ironforge will make you lol. |
| 23:18.47 | MoonWolf | kremonte, past me the stuff you do that with. |
| 23:18.58 | kremonte | i'd have to ask Guillotine first |
| 23:19.08 | Guillotine | what? |
| 23:19.15 | AnduinLothar | heh |
| 23:19.20 | kremonte | [ 06:18 ] [kremonte] Fun Fact: Linking a wand with windfury enchant in Ironforge will make you lol. |
| 23:19.21 | kremonte | [ 06:18 ] [MoonWolf] kremonte, past me the stuff you do that with. |
| 23:19.24 | Guillotine | my chatzilla makes a sound when someone says my name |
| 23:19.34 | kremonte | Guillotine Guillotine Guillotine |
| 23:19.40 | pagefault | yay for 1 second imp |
| 23:19.45 | pagefault | machine gun imp fireball |
| 23:19.53 | kremonte | i dont use that fker |
| 23:19.57 | Guillotine | sure. you can give it to him. as long as he doesn't make slouken put in checking |
| 23:20.01 | pagefault | I use him |
| 23:20.06 | pagefault | because he gives me +54 stam to the goup |
| 23:20.07 | pagefault | group |
| 23:20.14 | Guillotine | and as long as cair doesnt find out and kill us |
| 23:20.14 | kremonte | i only use that on boss fights, heh |
| 23:20.18 | kremonte | lol |
| 23:20.33 | pagefault | well when you 5 man a 10 man dungeon you tend to keep him out more |
| 23:20.37 | kremonte | MoonWolf, if I link it to you, you don't link it to anyone else, k? >.>; |
| 23:20.46 | MoonWolf | promise |
| 23:20.53 | Iriel | well, if you're linking items in IF, you'll almost certainly end up causing some updated checking. |
| 23:21.04 | Iriel | It's just a question of WHEN |
| 23:21.20 | Guillotine | probably true |
| 23:21.28 | Guillotine | I usually just do it in whispers to friends |
| 23:21.37 | Guillotine | but they need updated checking anyway |
| 23:21.46 | pagefault | anyway |
| 23:21.49 | pagefault | back to WoW |
| 23:21.52 | pagefault | we are gonna wipe in a second |
| 23:21.55 | Guillotine | someone else on my server figured out how to spoof items too and was exploiting it to get money |
| 23:21.56 | pagefault | :) |
| 23:22.00 | Guillotine | charging ppl for these 'fake' items |
| 23:22.01 | AnduinLothar | krem, if you try not to leak it someone's just gonna duplicat eit |
| 23:22.28 | Guillotine | yup |
| 23:22.29 | Tain | Remeber, three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. |
| 23:22.39 | Iriel | You're an idiot if you dont check the tooltip in the trade window before you hit 'ok' |
| 23:22.49 | Iriel | or else, you dont care about the money 8-) |
| 23:22.51 | Guillotine | are you saying I should kill kremonte and Slouken tain? |
| 23:23.00 | MoonWolf | indeed, its something to make jokes with.. not to extort people. |
| 23:23.01 | Guillotine | iriel: i agree |
| 23:23.07 | kremonte | then no link it 8) |
| 23:23.11 | Tain | I'm not saying you should. But if you don't want anyone to find out... |
| 23:23.14 | Guillotine | thats why were not just linking it to anyone |
| 23:23.15 | kremonte | sorry, heh |
| 23:23.21 | Cair | Guillotine: report his ass |
| 23:23.22 | MoonWolf | no problem. |
| 23:23.24 | Guillotine | tain: lol |
| 23:23.26 | Guillotine | cair: i did |
| 23:23.30 | Cair | good |
| 23:23.32 | Guillotine | and he no longer exists |
| 23:23.47 | Guillotine | he dissapeared from my friends list (a good way to watch ppl you report to see what happens) |
| 23:23.48 | kremonte | owned X) |
| 23:23.55 | kremonte | hah |
| 23:25.53 | Guillotine | as I see it, the only point of spoofing links is to say "Hey, look what I figured out how to do". bragging rights :) |
| 23:26.24 | kremonte | yup =D |
| 23:26.29 | kremonte | Guillotine - 1669 = windfury 4 ;) |
| 23:26.36 | Guillotine | nice |
| 23:26.43 | kremonte | [Stormrager] with windfury, hehehe |
| 23:26.55 | Guillotine | did you know that there is a set of pants in the game that actually says "rockbiter 1" on it? |
| 23:27.12 | kremonte | rockbiter 3 ;p |
| 23:27.17 | kremonte | and yeah, its enchant id #1 |
| 23:27.17 | Guillotine | right |
| 23:27.20 | Guillotine | but isnt that wierd? |
| 23:27.21 | kremonte | which would explain it, heh |
| 23:27.35 | kremonte | instead of making it xxxx:0:0:0, they made it xxxx:1:0:0 |
| 23:28.08 | Iriel | where did you see these pants, and could it be cache corruption in your client? |
| 23:28.15 | Iriel | or in the server? |
| 23:28.15 | kremonte | nope, lots of people have seen them |
| 23:28.22 | Tain | I see pants. |
| 23:28.22 | kremonte | its abyssal leather leggings of striking, i THINK |
| 23:29.10 | AnduinLothar | i love subwoofers |
| 23:29.13 | MoonWolf | i'll work on my own spoofer tommorow...I still want to link a friend of mine a Sulfuras, hand of ragnaros of the boar. |
| 23:29.15 | Iriel | Time to put my computer to work -- gotta fill up the iPod before my trip. |
| 23:29.22 | kremonte | =X |
| 23:29.24 | Cair | NO PANTS! MINE! |
| 23:29.27 | Tain | Pants!~ |
| 23:29.36 | Cair | ;) |
| 23:29.46 | AnduinLothar | where u headed ir? |
| 23:29.46 | Tain | Brainiac what is it! I just want a decent pair of pants! |
| 23:30.00 | Iriel | England (Seeing the parents for christmas) |
| 23:30.08 | Tain | Whose parents? |
| 23:30.16 | Iriel | Which means i'll be a little slower on my forum updates (Though I wont abandon y'all) |
| 23:30.19 | Iriel | Mine! |
| 23:30.20 | Osagasu | Cair, you know I always go commando |
| 23:30.24 | AnduinLothar | koolness. ya, I'm jsut taking my compy wil me to see the 'rents |
| 23:30.26 | Tain | Well you didn't specify.. |
| 23:30.43 | Cair | when are you heading out Iriel? |
| 23:30.49 | Cair | and when do we get you back? |
| 23:30.59 | groll | evening Cair :D |
| 23:31.06 | Tain | What movie is playing on the flight? |
| 23:31.09 | Cair | hey groll :) |
| 23:31.10 | Iriel | My laptop always travels with me, but they only have dialup, and it's in another country, so it gets fiddlier to be online.. Plus I have to of course be sociable there 8-) |
| 23:31.24 | krka | anyone interested in a general line-drawing-template or will I have to do it myself? |
| 23:31.27 | pagefault | this shammy quest is crazyu |
| 23:31.30 | Iriel | I'm actually hoping to make some inroads into the book i'm reading (Democracy in America) on the flight. |
| 23:31.34 | AnduinLothar | socialble ftl |
| 23:31.48 | Iriel | Cair: Leaving thursday, back on the 28th-ish |
| 23:31.59 | Cair | will miss you :( |
| 23:32.32 | groll | pagefault which one? |
| 23:32.39 | pagefault | some one in scholomance we are doing |
| 23:33.10 | groll | ah that sucky one |
| 23:33.14 | groll | reward totally suck |
| 23:33.25 | pagefault | I want to get lab |
| 23:33.35 | pagefault | so I can finally get my epic mount |
| 23:33.53 | kremonte | you get epic mount in DM west o_O |
| 23:34.04 | pagefault | you do? |
| 23:34.04 | pagefault | not me |
| 23:34.11 | pagefault | I release an imp in scholomance |
| 23:34.14 | kremonte | yup |
| 23:34.17 | kremonte | thats part 1 |
| 23:34.22 | pagefault | wtf |
| 23:34.26 | pagefault | I have to go to DM west? |
| 23:34.26 | kremonte | then you release imp in a jar in DM west in immol'thar's circle |
| 23:34.30 | pagefault | oh |
| 23:34.35 | kremonte | then theres a long event |
| 23:34.35 | pagefault | well it's scholomance for horde I guess |
| 23:34.38 | kremonte | nope =/ |
| 23:34.42 | pagefault | uh |
| 23:34.46 | pagefault | my quest says scholomance dude |
| 23:34.48 | kremonte | you release the imp in 5man scholo |
| 23:34.52 | kremonte | theres more parts X) |
| 23:35.05 | pagefault | man |
| 23:35.07 | pagefault | fuck you bliz |
| 23:35.11 | kremonte | he does some stuff, then you spend 250g to get black lodestone/imp in a jar/something else |
| 23:35.12 | pagefault | getting 900g is easier |
| 23:35.17 | kremonte | do DM west, yadda yadda |
| 23:36.01 | pagefault | I already did that other 250g crap |
| 23:36.04 | AnduinLothar | if you want it to be easy why are you playing a game? |
| 23:36.07 | pagefault | imp is the only thing left to do |
| 23:37.00 | AnduinLothar | i would MUCH rather do a quest than grind for 900g |
| 23:37.01 | kremonte | are you talking about the items you have to buy at AH, pagefault? |
| 23:37.01 | kremonte | like the dark iron ore? |
| 23:37.01 | pagefault | I did that |
| 23:37.01 | kremonte | AnduinLothar - you spend more than 600g |
| 23:37.04 | kremonte | that's not the 250g i was talking about pagefault |
| 23:37.04 | pagefault | I also got the special item off that NPC |
| 23:37.04 | pagefault | that was 250g |
| 23:37.08 | kremonte | not that one |
| 23:37.08 | kremonte | heh. |
| 23:37.18 | kremonte | NPC in burning steppes, after you do that, you buy from the goblin there |
| 23:37.32 | kremonte | black lodestone, another imp in a jar, and xorothian glyphs |
| 23:37.46 | AnduinLothar | so, i would still much rather grind on two occations for half as much with 2 goals than once with one goal |
| 23:37.50 | kremonte | you can have another warlock bring you thru DM west and use them to summon the dreadsteed |
| 23:38.01 | kremonte | AnduinLothar - its not half as much.. |
| 23:38.19 | kremonte | 250g + 250g + 150g + 50g... |
| 23:38.30 | kremonte | + 5man scholo, dm west, farming for 3 hours in winterspring |
| 23:38.40 | pagefault | blizzard sucks |
| 23:38.54 | kremonte | just makes it more rewarding in the end, IMO |
| 23:38.56 | AnduinLothar | .... |
| 23:39.03 | pagefault | it should be FREE CAST |
| 23:39.06 | pagefault | after all that BS |
| 23:39.11 | kremonte | *sneeze* |
| 23:39.18 | pagefault | oh wait that would make sense |
| 23:39.20 | pagefault | and I am a warlock |
| 23:39.23 | pagefault | that doesn't go together |
| 23:39.37 | AnduinLothar | you guys whine about such crap. It's a game. It's spose to take up your time and entertain you. |
| 23:39.43 | pagefault | I am going to have pvp mount before I have my "class" mount I can see it |
| 23:39.53 | kremonte | AnduinLothar, i'm not whining =O you just said it was half the price |
| 23:40.03 | kremonte | which i explained that it was, in fact, not ;) |
| 23:40.14 | pagefault | pvp mount is only 90g |
| 23:40.17 | pagefault | discount bin |
| 23:40.19 | kremonte | rank 11 though |
| 23:40.20 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.24 | pagefault | rank 11 is easier than this crap |
| 23:40.35 | kremonte | wtf AnduinLothar? |
| 23:40.38 | pagefault | and costs no mana |
| 23:41.04 | pagefault | it's not like I am a pally have the EZ mode |
| 23:41.10 | pagefault | warlocks got it up the ass in this game |
| 23:41.19 | kremonte | uh, now you are whining tbh =/ |
| 23:41.41 | pagefault | well it's silly how much work you have to go through |
| 23:41.42 | *** join/#wowi-lounge philr (n=phil@59.167.154.171) |
| 23:41.49 | pagefault | no casual player could ever do this quest |
| 23:41.52 | kremonte | wtf did anduinlothar ignore me... |
| 23:42.03 | kremonte | pagefault, yes they can.. |
| 23:42.08 | pagefault | you must have insulted his honor |
| 23:42.10 | kremonte | that's like saying no 'casual' player can get an epic mount |
| 23:42.24 | pagefault | with the help of ebay a casual player can get an epic mount |
| 23:42.28 | kremonte | .... |
| 23:43.04 | pagefault | i'm just going to get the pvp mount |
| 23:43.10 | pagefault | it's way more obtainable at this point |
| 23:43.24 | kremonte | if you're already on the 5man scholo part, you would have wasted your time more than anything |
| 23:43.33 | pagefault | perhaps |
| 23:43.42 | pagefault | i'm still getting gold either way |
| 23:46.21 | groll | ok THAT is a nice ui |
| 23:46.25 | pagefault | oh well |
| 23:46.28 | groll | url comming |
| 23:46.31 | pagefault | I am just pissed of |
| 23:46.38 | pagefault | I thought I was going to get my epic mount like tonight |
| 23:46.40 | pagefault | but obviously not |
| 23:47.17 | groll | http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=11519 |
| 23:47.31 | MoonWolf | eeueh, screenshots ? |
| 23:47.43 | groll | heh nope :P |
| 23:47.54 | groll | but it's niice :D although could get some improvements |
| 23:49.29 | groll | 5man ubrs run :P |
| 23:49.44 | kremonte | i have 5manned ubrs before ._. |
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| 23:53.10 | kremonte | WOOOT |
| 23:53.14 | Guillotine | stupid server... |
| 23:53.21 | Guillotine | what kremonte? |
| 23:53.32 | kremonte | http://www.thottbot.com/index.cgi?i=44692 |
| 23:53.33 | Guillotine | did you crash WoW? |
| 23:53.33 | kremonte | i just got that |
| 23:53.48 | Guillotine | niiiiiiice |
| 23:53.55 | Cair | congrats |
| 23:54.02 | kremonte | all the other warlocks didnt show up |
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| 23:54.40 | Cair | ho Lawjoskar |
| 23:54.44 | Cair | hi, even |
| 23:54.45 | kremonte | hi ho! |
| 23:54.46 | Cair | sheesh |
| 23:54.50 | kremonte | it's off to work we go |
| 23:55.22 | Cair | later kremonte |
| 23:56.28 | kremonte | oh i'm not leaving, i was just singing |
| 23:56.41 | Cair | ah |
| 23:56.56 | kremonte | yknow, hi ho, hi ho, its off to work we go |
| 23:57.08 | Guillotine | lol |
| 23:57.11 | Guillotine | ROFL |
| 23:57.20 | Guillotine | but if I was rolling on the floor laughing, how could I be typing? |
| 23:57.28 | Guillotine | unless my keyboard was on the ground rolling along with me |
| 23:57.36 | kremonte | slaptop |
| 23:57.41 | kremonte | laptop* lol |
| 23:57.54 | Guillotine | slaptop is better. cause its like knee slapping funny! |
| 23:58.12 | Guillotine | g2g guys. seeing the narnia movie. it better be good >.> |
| 23:58.20 | kremonte | heh, cya, have fun :) |
| 23:58.38 | Guillotine | don't worry. I'll repeat the entire movie in this channel when I get back |
| 23:58.42 | Guillotine | word for word |
| 23:58.45 | kergoth | spoilers EVIL |
| 23:58.46 | Guillotine | :) |
| 23:58.47 | kergoth | :) |
| 23:58.49 | kremonte | k! |
| 23:58.51 | Guillotine | lol. ttyl guys |
| 23:58.53 | Cair | if you do, you'll get smack |
| 23:58.58 | Cair | ed |
| 23:59.03 | Guillotine | you mean snack? |
| 23:59.12 | Iriel | I owned all of the narnia books |
| 23:59.13 | Guillotine | don't worry. I understood your typo |
| 23:59.22 | Iriel | like, 20+ years ago |
| 23:59.24 | Guillotine | if I repeat the movie in the channel, you'll give me a snack :) |
| 23:59.24 | Cair | Iriel: I still do :) |
| 23:59.28 | Guillotine | I still do too |
| 23:59.33 | Guillotine | though I havn't read them in a long time |
| 23:59.36 | Guillotine | long |
| 23:59.39 | Guillotine | time |
| 23:59.40 | kergoth | i actually never read them |
| 23:59.41 | Iriel | I left them in the UK when I moved here |
| 23:59.43 | Legorol | narnia? i just got back from watching narnai! |
| 23:59.46 | kergoth | though i've read a TON of other fantasy |
| 23:59.48 | Guillotine | is it good? |
| 23:59.48 | kergoth | i should fix that |
