irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20051216

00:00.04Kremontei didn't use it
00:00.08Guillotinewhats different between turtle and guilbot?
00:00.12Kremontewrote pseudocode in math class today
00:00.15Kremonteturtle is GREEN
00:00.15Guillotinewe could make them interface together somehow
00:00.18Guillotinehaha
00:00.24Kremonteill upload it to pastebin
00:00.31futrtrublBOT WARS!!!
00:00.47Kremontehttp://wow.pastebin.com/466004
00:00.48Guillotineare you planning on having it do pretty much the same thing as guilbot or will it be more for whispers?
00:01.05Kremonteits flexibile
00:01.12Kremonteyou can change it say/party/yell/guild
00:01.22Kremontethe prefix statements are more random
00:01.23futrtrublraid?
00:01.28Guillotinecheater
00:01.32Kremontethat too futrtrubl
00:01.32Guillotineit was my idea first :(
00:01.33Kremontecheater? ;_;
00:01.42Kremonteyeah, sux2bu man!
00:01.48Guillotinethey stole it from us... my... PRECIOUS!!!
00:02.07Guillotinebut I wanted to have a monopoly
00:02.10Guillotineso it would get really popular
00:02.15Guillotineand I could put in secret stuff
00:02.19Guillotineto make ppl send me their money
00:02.23Kremontewe can have our own easter eggs
00:02.26Kremonte=O
00:02.27Guillotineyou ruined my plan :(
00:02.58Guillotineseriously though, it would be pretty cool if we made them interface. like have mine be more for guild leaders and yours for interfacing for everyone else
00:02.59Guillotineor something
00:03.00Kremontelike my one three three seven source?
00:03.10futrtrubldo what I do, if (UnitName("player") == Kremonte) then while false do; end end
00:03.27Guillotinehaha
00:03.33Kremonteim coding on Kremsmule right now
00:03.34Kremonte=D
00:03.44futrtrubloops, while true
00:04.09Kremontedo what i do, ctrl+h Kremonte tab Guillotine enter
00:04.25Guillotinehuh?
00:04.30Kremontein notepad :D
00:04.32Kremontefind&replce
00:04.36Guillotineoh. haha
00:04.43futrtrublahh ;']
00:05.24Guillotineill do that same thing wtih your source. it will then be MY source! muhaha!
00:05.49Guillotinewait. that won't work. Kremonte doesn't appear once in your script...
00:05.51Guillotinedang
00:06.04Kremonte=D
00:06.19futrtrublsomebody did that in BEB to make it there own, problem is the changed the name of the folder but not the name of the files so it wouldn' even load ;']
00:06.25Guillotinehaha
00:06.26Kremontehaha
00:06.45futrtrublstupid ass
00:06.46Guillotineoh well kremonte. I guess imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery...
00:06.54Kremontei wasn't imitating you
00:06.57Kremontei was imitating purl ;)
00:06.58Guillotineyes you were
00:07.01Guillotineit was me
00:07.05Kremonteso if anyone , TimRiker should be the flattered one
00:07.06KremonteHAH!
00:07.06GuillotineI ported purl to WoW first
00:07.10Kremontenope
00:07.13Kremonteyours isnt done ;o
00:07.14Guillotineso you imitated me who imitated TimRiker
00:07.26futrtrubloh boy
00:07.37Guillotinehaha. i win :P
00:08.12futrtrublso, who wants to test my chatbot BCB, BasicChatBot?
00:08.12Guillotineand you didn't comment your script NEAR as well as I did
00:08.17Guillotine:/
00:08.21Guillotinelol futrtrubl
00:08.53futrtrublthough I used Kremonte's code
00:09.14KremonteGuillotine:  - those weren't comments
00:09.14futrtrublused= imitated
00:09.23Kremontethose were saying what everything did in depth
00:09.27Guillotineexactly
00:09.31Kremontewe don't need to know every attribute of strsub
00:09.35Kremonteevery time you use it =O
00:09.38Guillotinelol
00:09.46Guillotinei actually made my script mainly for ppl to learn from
00:09.52Kremonteyar. i don't do that
00:09.52Kremonte=O
00:09.55Kremontei never learned like that
00:10.05Guillotinewell thats your fault, isn't it
00:10.28Kremonteyep
00:10.29Kremonte:)
00:11.56Guillotinewell, let me know if you need anything with your script. Though, seriously, I don't think we need 2 seperate projects that do the same thing. Why not just combine them?
00:12.15GuillotineThey each have their own advantages.
00:12.16Kremontebecause i'm selfish and impatient
00:12.21Guillotinebesides that
00:12.30Kremontethat's the only good reason, and it's damn valid too =D
00:12.34Guillotinelol
00:12.49Kremontewe don't code alike (not that it's bad) but i hate using standards when it's not xml/xhtml/yadda
00:13.28Guillotinestandards?
00:14.22Kremontethe same way for easier modification/addition/readibility
00:14.33Kremontelike if i use 4 spaces and you use tab, no good, crappy looking code =O
00:14.37Guillotinealthough you're right. we don't code alike. I use tons of functions. The advantage to that is that its easy for people to make plugins (which was my goal for GuilBot)
00:14.56Kremonteah
00:15.03Kremontei am more interested personally in configuration
00:15.19Guillotinefor example, it would take about 3 seconds to make a plugin for guilbot that would show how much ammo the user has
00:15.19Kremontewhere you can just do like, /turtle mode say and it makes it say, etc
00:15.38Kremonteguilbot, how many friends does Guillotine have?
00:15.39Guillotinewhy not combine them a bit? make one configurable AND plug-in friendly
00:15.41Kremonte~~0
00:15.51Kremontebecause i'm selfish and impatient!
00:15.53cladhairewait
00:15.58cladhairedid you just suggest collaboration?
00:16.00cladhairewe don't do that here.
00:16.11cladhaire=)
00:16.15Cairennwe don't?
00:16.19cladhaire*shake*
00:16.24Guillotinesee! Cairenn is on my side!
00:16.26cladhairewe insult each other and make snide comments
00:16.28cladhairewe never collaborate
00:16.31Cairennsilly me, what was I thinking!
00:16.34Guillotineor not
00:16.37cladhairesilly you indeed.
00:18.03Kremonteits not collaborating
00:18.05Kremonteit's combining
00:18.09Kremonteomg peer, that asshole
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00:18.59KremonteGuillotine: kick peers ass!
00:20.02Esamynn~lart cladhaire
00:20.13Cairennhahahhaa
00:20.21Esamynnwhoa
00:20.34Esamynn~botsnack
00:20.34purlEsamynn: thanks
00:20.35Cairennthat's a lot of donuts!
00:20.48TainWith Krispy Kream?  Nah, it's probably about 4.
00:20.52Cairenngod, that's more than I weigh, total
00:21.57pagefaultfun
00:22.02pagefaultheavy snowfall warning
00:22.06pagefault25-30 cm expected overnight
00:22.07Esamynnhehehe, stealth larting ;)
00:22.28Cairennpagefault: I informed the world of that yesterday :p
00:22.32CairennI *hate* winter!
00:22.43Esamynnits only because of where you live
00:22.45Cairennhate hate hate hatehatehatehatehahteHATE
00:22.56Esamynnits been 0-3 degrees here for 2 weeks
00:23.01KremonteEsamynn: how do you stealth lart? =O
00:23.16KolthWinter rules!
00:23.21EsamynnKremonte its a secret, purl and I are buddies ;)
00:23.25Kremontegrr
00:23.27Kremonteass ><
00:23.47Esamynndon't make me lart you ;)
00:23.48pagefaultrhttp://www.weatheroffice.ec.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=ONT
00:23.49pagefaultwow
00:23.51pagefaultthats nasty
00:24.09Kremontei hate you
00:24.30OsagasuDuuuude
00:24.34Kremontei still hate you :D
00:24.37Osagasusomeone is making a roguelike game for WoW
00:24.39Esamynn:P
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00:25.18Esamynnhey who here didn't see the New Class posting in the general forums last week, the spoof one ;)
00:25.26OsagasuI didn't
00:25.29Kremontei didnt'
00:25.37Esamynni'll post you the link
00:25.56Esamynnhttp://www.wowgoodness.com/farmer.html
00:25.58Esamynnhttp://www.wowgoodness.com/talents.html
00:26.16Kremonteoh that
00:26.18Kremonteyeah i saw that
00:26.28Esamynndamnit, they took it down
00:26.36Kremonteit was on another site
00:26.39Kremonteforghot what tho
00:26.49Esamynnoh well, I made a copy for myself
00:27.26Osagasuwoot for 404
00:27.51Osagasuor 404 4tl
00:28.03Kremonte404tl
00:28.09Osagasuthwere we go
00:28.11Esamynnfound some good links, just a sec
00:28.13Osagasu*there
00:28.36Esamynnhttp://wow.boom.net/ggfarmer/
00:28.38Esamynnhttp://wow.boom.net/ggfarmer/talents.html
00:29.47CairennGrandma got run over by a reindeer
00:30.15TainI think she got run over by Father Winter
00:30.26Esamynn~give Cairenn a pie
00:30.30purlACTION gives Cairenn a home-baked cherry pie with ice cream on the side
00:30.36Kremonte~give Esamynn a pie
00:30.38purlACTION gives Esamynn a home-baked lemon meringue pie
00:30.42Kremontenice
00:30.59Esamynn~botsnack
00:30.59purlEsamynn: :)
00:31.02Cairennis listening to weird christmas songs for some reason
00:32.04Tainthat they exist is reason enough
00:32.38Esamynnso I was disappointed to hear you cannot get the snowman costume this year :(
00:34.42Guillotineyou can't get the snowman costume this year? !!!!! nooo!
00:34.53Esamynnso i'm told :'(
00:34.56Cairennyou think you are confused? trying living in *my* brain!
00:35.09Esamynnno thanks, i'm already quite wacky enough
00:35.25Guillotineis there any script to talk to the targetted NPC or do you have to right click?
00:35.34Esamynnhave to right click
00:35.40Guillotineb/c theres too many ppl near this smokywood pastures guy...
00:35.45Guillotineits impossible to talk to him
00:35.54Esamynngoto Stormwind
00:36.18Esamynnor Thunderbluff as the case may be
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00:40.57Guillotineyou can't get the quests in SW or TB
00:41.14Guillotinenow I can talk to him, but its too laggy to buy anything or get quests... *sigh*
00:47.47CairennHAH!  Remember; for every mile of road, there are two miles of ditch!
00:48.15TainRemember!  Before you judge someone walk a mile in their shoes.
00:48.21TainBecause then you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
00:52.46Cairennokay, where are the spoof masters? I need a script please
00:56.04Guillotineyes?
00:56.19Guillotinescript for what?
00:56.24Cairenngive me the script to spoof a link, please?
00:56.29Guillotineok. ill email it
00:56.39Cairenndanke
00:56.53Cairenncairenn@wowinterface.com
00:57.12Guillotinei know :)
00:57.20Cairenn:)
00:58.05CairennROFL
00:58.20CairennThe Night Santa Went Crazy!
00:58.21Guillotinewait- why do you want this anyway? are you going to spoof innapropriate things?
00:58.34CairennI'm not going to spoof a single thing
00:58.49Cairennewww, Reindeer sausage!
00:58.51CairennROFL
00:58.55CairennI *love* this song!
00:59.51Guillotineohhh. are you emailing this to slouken or something?
01:01.05CairennIf I tell you that, will you then refuse to send it to me?
01:02.23Guillotineof course not
01:02.26GuillotineI already sent it
01:02.36Cairennyes, I am.  He asked for it.  He thinks he's got it taken care of, but wants to make sure
01:02.41Guillotineahhh. ok
01:02.48Guillotinegreat. did we cause a bunch of lag :/
01:03.34Guillotinealthough it wasnt just us. Ive seen alot of spoofed links lately
01:03.41Cairennwell, he's shutting it down
01:03.45Guillotinethats good
01:03.47Cairennas we knew he was going to
01:03.52Guillotinepeople have been starting to abuse it...
01:03.59OsagasuI wanna spoof once before it does! ;_;
01:05.08KremonteGuillotine:  you still around
01:05.14Guillotineno
01:05.21Kremontek, later then! :P
01:05.26Cairennhehehehe, you guys really need to listen to this, even if you aren't Christian and celebrating Christmas:  http://www.cairenn-mmorpg.com/music/Christmas/20%20the%20night%20santa%20went%20crazy.m4a
01:05.42GuillotineI'll release the spoofer the day before its fixed. so you can at least have 1 day of fun...
01:05.47Guillotineif its ok with cairenn
01:06.25Cairenn...
01:06.37Cairenndepends what you mean by "release"
01:06.51Cairennpost it on WoWI? not a chance
01:07.09Osagasujust e-mail it to me. ^^
01:07.28Cairennpost it here, with everyone agreeing that they won't share it ... weeeelllll ..... I won't stop you
01:08.02Osagasuhmm
01:08.10Kremontewhat if i don't agree but don't not agree? :D
01:08.13Osagasuwhat does it actually do, anyways? O.o
01:08.14Kremontelol
01:08.25OsagasuI know it spoofs enchantments
01:08.45Kremontelink names, enchants, and some stats
01:08.53Cairennif you abuse things you've learned/gotten via this channel, then you won't be welcome in the channel any longer
01:08.58TainIt'll be everywhere within an hour.
01:09.04Cairennthink that's clear enough?
01:09.05Kremontehahahs sweet! alliance vs horde snowball fight in alterac
01:09.11Kremonteyup Cairenn =X
01:10.42OsagasuWe know Cair doesn't play
01:10.52Osagasuwell she does, just not that... gah, you know what I mean
01:11.15CairennYeah, I'm such an old stick in the mud, I know
01:11.44Osagasua wha?
01:12.06EsamynnCair has been level 51 for as long as I can remember :P
01:13.16OsagasuLess than an hour left on the DDO download... I changed servers and it works fine now
01:13.25EsamynnCair: what format is that song in?
01:13.33CairennITunes
01:13.36Cairennmp4
01:14.25Esamynnmight i ask what you are talking about Guill, or shall I just read back? ;)
01:15.02Esamynnnever mind, i was scrolled up, i need to pay attention
01:16.56Guillotineok reading back: ya. i didn't mean post in on WoWI. just msg ppl in this channel that I trust not to abuse it
01:17.12Cairennthat I would not object to
01:17.47Cairennmind you, there is arguement that using it at all is an "abuse" in and of itself, but meh
01:18.05Esamynnahhhh, I get it
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01:18.25EsamynnCair, why are you trying to spoof a link?
01:18.43CairennEsamynn: you obviously didn't read all of it, did you
01:19.01Esamynnsigh nope, i'm being bad, i'll go read all of it :P
01:19.12Guillotinehaha
01:19.38Osagasushe's sendint it to Blue.
01:19.40Osagasu*sending
01:19.51Cairennsent* past tense
01:20.17Esamynnahh ok
01:20.34EsamynnI wouldn't have thought that would be an easy thing to shut down
01:21.05GuillotineI'd think the text would be. but not shutting down spoofing enchantments
01:21.39CairennGuillotine: he says thanks
01:21.44Esamynncome again Guill?
01:22.04GuillotineI would think that stopping the spoofing of text would be easy, but not stopping of spoofing enchantments
01:22.14Kremonteenchants, maybe
01:22.21Kremontelimit enchants to weapons/head/wand etc
01:22.55Esamynnoh, you mean spoofing of links for stuff you can't actually do?
01:23.12Kremonte[Zomg Blacksmith Hammer of teh Roxr0z]
01:23.28Kremontewith +72AP and scope +7 damage
01:23.33OsagasuWTS [Wang], PST
01:23.38Osagasu:P
01:23.44Kremonte<3shirts
01:23.54EsamynnI thought you meant spoofing the the sense of sending a legitimate link, without actually having the item
01:23.59OsagasuMine is better than their [Wang]
01:24.10Esamynnin* the sense
01:24.33OsagasuDamnit, send it to me! ><
01:24.38GuillotineEsamynn: no. we meant spoofing [Hearthstone of the Gorilla] with +27 strength and intellect
01:24.46Esamynnyes, I understand now
01:24.49Depherios[Wang] just isn't as funny when you can't see it's epic XD
01:24.52EsamynnI wasn't even aware that was possible
01:25.07KremonteEsamynn:  hm?
01:25.11Guillotinemost people aren't
01:25.35GuillotineI figured it out and kremonte and I made the addon (he figured out spoofing stats was possible actually. and enchants)
01:25.45Esamynninteresting
01:25.52Guillotineoh. cair: tell slouken "any time" :)
01:26.01Kremonteturtle pwns
01:26.05Esamynni'd love to see the code for it (because i'm just curious, I wouldn't use it)
01:26.21Esamynnwould you send it to me once its been fixed?
01:26.23Guillotinewe'll release the code to the public once its fixed. so you can see what was once possible
01:26.27Guillotineyes
01:26.31Esamynnok :)
01:26.47OsagasuBut but
01:26.52OsagasuI wanna plaaaaay!
01:26.53Esamynn~lart Osagasu
01:26.59Esamynnlol
01:27.55Esamynnthat was too perfect ;)
01:28.06Esamynn~botsnack
01:28.06purl:), Esamynn
01:28.15Osagasu~lart purl
01:28.19Guillotinekrem: give you a cookie to stop the development of turtle
01:28.34Guillotinemy addon won't look near as cool if another one that does the exact same thing comes out at the same time :(
01:28.36Osagasu~rlart
01:28.48Esamynnturtle?
01:28.59Osagasu~rlart
01:29.01KremonteGuillotine: mine will do more and come out earlier
01:29.02OsagasuOkay, done
01:29.03Kremonte;)
01:29.12Guillotine:P
01:29.18OsagasuI still wanna play!
01:29.31GuillotineI'd stop development if you added in support for plug-ins to yours...
01:29.51OsagasuHow'd you do that?
01:29.55Guillotineb/c so far yours is more featurific
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01:29.58Esamynn;)
01:30.03Guillotinebut mine has plugin support
01:30.28Kremonteso? :O!
01:30.35OsagasuWhy don't you two get Gobby and work together?
01:30.38KremonteEsamynn is a haxor
01:30.42KremonteGobby?
01:31.12Esamynnwhy thank you Kremonte :P
01:31.24KremonteEsamynn: i meant it in a bad way ;)
01:31.24Osagasuhttp://gobby.0x539.de/
01:31.43Kremontebecause, i'm more nerdy than Guillotine'
01:32.11Kremonte(in other words, i'm impatient and selfish and online more (generally))
01:32.15EsamynnI only use my powers for good, never evil ;)
01:32.24Kremonte~lart Esamynn
01:32.25Osagasu;_;
01:32.41Esamynnoops, that one is misspelld
01:32.48Esamynnmisspelled*
01:33.00Kremonteyeah, Esamynn is a crappy developer of purl!
01:33.09Guillotineya. kremonte is impatient and selfish :( I asked him if he wanted to work together but he doesnt want to. and I am kind of offended that you were helping with my addon then just took it on yourself to rewrite the exact same thing
01:33.11Cairennwhich one is misspelled?
01:33.19Kremonte**purl whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that Esamynn is stuck to the floor
01:33.19Esamynnthat last lart action
01:33.27Osagasua hot glue gun <--fixed
01:33.34Cairennno, it wasn't
01:33.35Esamynnbut you can't re-program the lart command its hard coded as far as I can tell
01:33.42Kremontelol
01:33.42Cairennhot CLUE gun, duh :p
01:33.52Kremontethat one requires more thinking though, cair
01:33.53EsamynnI suppose
01:34.14EsamynnI saw that as a possiblity but I chose to believe it was misspelled
01:34.20kergothwoot, my desktop wallpaper is now the evil monkey that lives in Chris's closet on family guy
01:34.21Esamynn;)
01:34.29Esamynnlol
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01:34.52Esamynn~monkey kergoth
01:34.54purlACTION flings poo at kergoth
01:35.01kergothhehe
01:35.05KremonteGuillotine: it's not really selfish though, i'm just really impatient and wouldn't want to break your code or remove omsething you want
01:35.13Osagasu~sith code
01:35.18purlrumour has it, sith code is There is no fear, there is power. / There is no death, there is immortality. / There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side. / I am the Heart of Darkness. / I know no fear, / But rather I instill it in my enemies. / I am the destroyer of worlds. / I know the power of the Dark Side. / I am the fire of hate. / All the Universe bows before me
01:35.19Osagasu~sith code2
01:35.21purlmethinks sith code2 is I pledge myself to the Darkness. / For I have found true life, / In the death of the light.
01:35.44Osagasu<3
01:36.22kergothCairenn: http://www.ubernet.org/
01:36.25kergothCairenn: check it out
01:36.29Cairenns/busying/busily/
01:36.47Cairennyeah, I really need to start using that
01:37.10Depherioslol
01:37.33Esamynnok, later guys, i need to make myself useful
01:37.41kergoth~productivity
01:37.43purlyay! i mean.. boo.
01:37.49Esamynnhaha
01:38.01kergoth~botsnack
01:38.01purlkergoth: :)
01:39.03kergoth~work
01:39.05purlit has been said that work is punishment for failing to procrastinate effectively.
01:39.07Cairennand yes, I know, I'm a contradiction, since you guys are used to me being a complete metal head and I'm now yattering away about listening to Brandenburg Concerto No. 3 in G major
01:39.22Kremonteboo g major
01:39.24Kremonteyay d minor
01:39.29Cairennit's called having eclectic tastes
01:39.44kergothhehe, cair, i'm the same way.  i listen to everything.  a random jaunt through my music collection hits everything from icelandic death metal to tori amos to classical
01:39.49OsagasuYou're not just a contradiction, you're an oxymoron.
01:39.51Osagasu^^
01:40.01pagefaultI listen to anything that sound sgood
01:41.39Malivilare curse-gaming's download counters accurate?
01:41.54CairennI'm just to the point that I'm so sick I can't even concentrate enough to play WoW, let alone do anything useful, so I'm importing CDs, since that requires no brainwave pattern on my part
01:41.57Malivilor staged like ui.worldofwar?
01:42.02kergothsick? :(
01:42.07Cairennno idea Malivil
01:42.12Malivilk
01:42.24MalivilCair is sick?
01:42.26Maliviloh noez
01:42.35MalivilGet better... now!
01:42.36Cairennoh yeah, my daughter gave me her strep, I've been sicker than a dog for the last week, hence part of my shitty mood
01:42.38Malivil=-P
01:42.38LegorolMalivil, accurate from what i can tell
01:42.46MalivilOk, thanks
01:42.55kergothugh, sorry to hear that
01:42.57kergothstrep is no fun
01:43.05MalivilPoor cair =-/
01:43.34CairennI'm currently sitting here with the temp in the house being about 23C (73-ish F), in a majorily bukly sweatshirt, wrapped in 2 blankets, and shivering so hard my chair is vibrating
01:43.52Kolth73 is hot
01:44.10CairennI'm just hoping it doesn't turn into my usual bronchitis or pneumonia
01:44.37Cairennthis is a first for me though, I've never had strep before
01:45.14pagefaultno kissing for you
01:45.31TainI just walked past two Trolls named Leella and Fryy
01:45.45kergothhaha
01:45.47kergothnice
01:45.57pagefaulthaha
01:46.12pagefaultthats a nice get back present
01:46.14TainYou better get your rest!
01:46.16pagefaultthe plague!
01:47.02pagefaultyou should go kiss the winter veil npcs
01:47.08kergothhehe
01:47.09pagefaultstart another zul'gurub thing
01:47.18pagefaulteveryone in the game will get strep
01:47.58TainIf you kiss someone standing under the mistletoe in game you get a prize.
01:48.10pagefaultyep
01:48.16pagefaultand a lot of hearts
01:48.28TainYeah like you're being tamed.  hah hah
01:48.43pagefaultif it's that female orc thats probably the case
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02:04.21Osagasusomeone come online and seperate me and Loz... we're getting childish with each other. xD
02:05.11Cairennas long as it's "amusing each other" childish, not "pissing each other off" childish
02:06.39Osagasuonly 400 megs left in my DDO download! =D
02:07.36futrtrublwhat faction?
02:07.42futrtrublI'll come on
02:07.56OsagasuWhat's the only faction Loz plays on? :P
02:08.02futrtrublHorde
02:08.05OsagasuHorde! ^^
02:08.07futrtrublI'll be right htere
02:11.42futrtrubldamn queues
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02:13.09Osagasuwell I'm about to log for a bit now. xD
02:13.35futrtrubldamn your impatience, damn everything! ;']
02:15.30futrtrublnow what horde char should I make....
02:15.41Cairennwhatever one you will enjoy playing
02:16.01futrtrubland why is my queue position going UP?
02:16.05Osagasulol
02:16.19TainA Troll Priest with face number 4, skin 6, and hairstlye 2
02:16.22OsagasuI was wondering why my position would jump from 160 to 40
02:16.29futrtrublwill do Tain
02:16.40TainAnd let me know if those options actually exist.
02:16.46futrtrubl;']
02:17.28TainI don't think I've ever actually seen my queue position go up.
02:17.32TainThat's sorta funny.
02:17.40TainLike someone has a VIP pass to cut in line.
02:17.41futrtrublwell, I'll have to guess at those since it doen't tell you which number option it is..
02:18.10futrtrublI don't understand it myself
02:18.21Osagasustill 20 in my DL, futr
02:18.33TainIf they charged an extra $10 a month to skip queues how many do you think would pay it? I bet a lot.
02:19.02Osagasuso much you'd have to make queues for the people who paid extra
02:19.03OsagasuxD
02:19.11Tainhaha I know I just thought about that too
02:19.31TainThey should have a pvp waiting room.  If you beat your opponent you get to log in.
02:20.46TainWhat I'd love to see in WoW is one of the funnest things (in my opinion) that EverQuest ever did.
02:21.10TainFor a very short time on the test server you could log in and you'd actualy be playing a random mob in the world under level 10
02:21.40Osagasuo.O
02:21.44Osagasu...wow.
02:21.46Osagasujust... wow.
02:21.49TainIt was so awesome.
02:22.00futrtrublso, could DarkBob get an invite to the guild please?
02:22.01TainBut they only did it for like a couple of weeks, maybe a month at most.
02:22.30CairennDarkBob? what the heck sort of WoW UI Code name is that? :p
02:23.00futrtrublgood point, time to reroll my troll
02:23.00TainNo guild for you!  Come back one year!
02:25.46TainI got some mistletoe.
02:27.25CairennGuillotine, and I quote ... "Yup, the text spoofing on this won't work in 1.10"
02:27.30futrtrublhokay, so... Ipairs is now ready for an invite. Pretty please
02:27.42Guillotinecairenn: nice
02:27.44Cairennhave to wait for me to get through the queue
02:27.53futrtrublwill do
02:28.08Legorolwhat's the easiest place to get eggs at on Alliance side?
02:28.11TainI feel sorta... dirty.
02:28.15TainI gave my pet some mistletoe.
02:28.20Guillotinehaha
02:28.23Legorolooh, how do i get a mistletoe
02:28.25Osagasu:3
02:28.38Osagasukiss one of the revelers under mistletoe
02:28.43Legorolhehe
02:28.44TainLegorol: You /kiss someone standing under the mistletoe in towns
02:28.51Legoroldoes it have to be a PC?
02:29.02TainNo, there's npc holiday revelers
02:29.17Legorolbut... but.. there are 2 of them already!
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02:29.21Legorolthey must be kissing each other
02:29.28Legorolso i can't possibly kiss them too!
02:29.29TainNah, they're just flirting.
02:29.39TainYou can still slide in and make your move.
02:29.49zespriLegorol, hello, what's the topic? ;)
02:30.22Osagasuonly 200 megs left!
02:30.42Tain200 megs, is that the size of the queue you have to download to find out what spot you're in?
02:31.05Cairennname again?
02:32.57TainAww you're not staying on, Cair?
02:33.00Cairennnot atm
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02:39.08Temahahaha
02:39.14Temdid anyone see what gello posted?
02:39.17Cairenn?
02:39.29Cairennwhich thread?
02:39.53Tem"You call out for healing"
02:40.07TemI'm so installing that on my druid
02:40.34CairennROFL
02:40.38TemWow my "I crash wow" thread went un responded to all day
02:40.38CairennI love Gello :)
02:40.50TemI don't know how to respond to this
02:40.59Legorolwhich forum is this? US UI or wowi?
02:41.20Temhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=280440&s=new&tmp=1#new
02:41.32kergothman, i really feel sorry for the reindeer i'm riding, given i'm a tauren
02:41.33kergothhttp://kergoth.com/images/screenshots/WOW/wow_sshot72.jpg
02:41.55kergothshould break its back
02:42.40Temhehe
02:44.44LegorolTem, and where's your crash thread?
02:44.48Legorol(btw Gello roxxors)
02:45.06Legoroland the person asking if all that goes in his FrameXML deserves to be shot
02:45.15Temhehe
02:46.14Temhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=280418&tmp=1#post280418
02:46.56TemDid someone just stealth bump my thread?
02:47.14TemBecause I was looking for it all the way to page 6 before I noticed at the top....
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02:48.17kremontegobby is really cool :X
02:48.17kremontelooks like a must-have for development groups
02:48.17Temis that the collaberative editing thing?
02:48.21kremonteyeah
02:48.27Temcollaborative*
02:48.36kremonteme and Guillotine are using it for the chatbot now, it's cool
02:48.48Temit's an interesting piece of work
02:52.09Cairennlol, Wish Liszt
03:04.56LegorolI absolutely *love* seasonal quests/events!
03:05.23Legorolespecially since this is the first time Winter Veil came to the EU servers
03:05.36kremonteow
03:06.48Legorol*snicker*
03:10.32Osagasusometimes.
03:10.39Cairenn;)
03:10.40Temhaha
03:10.44OsagasuRobin Williams is a wise man
03:10.59TemRobin Williams is probably the funniest man on the planer
03:11.15Osagasu"God gave men a brain and a penis, but only enough blood to run one at a time."
03:11.22Osagasuso only sometimes.
03:12.46Osagasu...
03:12.50Osagasuupdate,
03:12.58Cairennlol
03:13.02Tem?
03:13.03Cairennsorry, shouldn't laugh
03:13.20OsagasuI've been waiting over 48 hours to play this stress
03:13.31OsagasuI finish downloading... installing...
03:13.38Osagasuthen it starts updating,
03:14.18Osagasubrb
03:14.45zespriWhat did he download?
03:16.28CairennDDO
03:16.35zespriWhat is ddo?
03:16.53CairennDungeons & Dragons OnLine
03:17.00CairennD&D MMO
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03:17.22zespriright... is it wizard od  the coast's stuff?
03:17.39KolthIt's Turbine.
03:17.50Cairennhttp://www.ddo.com/
03:18.05FanookDDO's not too bad, just stopped playing
03:18.21zesprilol, I asked and then I googled. Son't pay attention to me, thank you =)
03:18.37CairennEveryone I've talked to so far said they were actually rather disappointed Fanook
03:19.00Fanookwell, this is coming from someone who doesn't have a big D&D background
03:19.21KolthI thouht DDO was a horrible game.
03:19.36Fanookthe only thing i really didnt like was the interface
03:19.40zespriCair, tell me more, did they say what they were disappointed in particular?
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03:20.05Osagasu><
03:21.04OsagasuDamnit.
03:21.44Fanooki will say that playing with frequent 6-10 second lag really sucks
03:24.15OsagasuIt says I get an API error when I try to run it
03:24.23OsagasuThis game doesn't want me to play.
03:27.17OsagasuI guess I'll do standard procedure. shut down all programs. bai
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03:31.15Osagasunope.
03:37.01OsagasuOooh, got it to work finally
03:37.09zesprigrats
03:39.20CairennYes, I'm babbling, sorry
03:42.40kremonteyeesh, gobby is REALLY cool
03:42.50kremonteGuillotine fixed my typos
03:42.58Guillotineyup. lol
03:43.02Guillotine:)
03:43.23GuillotineI can't believe we can write this complex of an addon this fast. its all thanks to Gobby :D
03:43.51kremonteyeah, one on XML and one on lua, as opposed to going from one to the other =D
03:43.52TemWhat did you write?
03:44.01kremontewe're working together making a chatbot
03:44.09kremonte(purl clone +some -some ;))
03:44.09Tema replacement?
03:44.20kremonteplacement for? :X
03:44.21Temoh chatboT
03:44.25pagefaulthahaha
03:44.29pagefaultthe filter in WoW filters milf
03:44.30TemI read chatboX
03:44.31pagefaultthats hillarious
03:44.38kremontelol pagefault
03:44.45Temwhy do you have that filter on?
03:44.54pagefaultI wiped my config and someone was saying that
03:44.57pagefaultso I wondered what it was
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03:57.37pagefaultdamn everyone is farming swoops
04:03.06Guillotinehow do I get the default language? and why the heck is that parameter before who to whisper it to?
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04:05.00RedcXe?
04:05.09kremontemsg me ><
04:05.16kremonteGuillotine -> gobby
04:10.54kremonteanyone on that knowsh xml?
04:11.07kremontei need help on how to make a UIDropDownMenuTemplate
04:11.25TemDon't bother
04:11.36Temthat's my advice for UIDropDownMenuTemplate
04:11.40TemDon't waste you time
04:12.01kremontethanks for the help
04:12.02kremontehttp://cosmosui.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=17516 ;)
04:12.30Temwow the cosmos site doesn't look like crap anymore
04:13.11Temah nevermind
04:13.17Temit's only the forums that look nice
04:13.37kremontehow do i set a parent
04:13.42kremonte<Frame parent="UIParent"> ?
04:13.57Cairennhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahhhhhhhhhahahahhahaha
04:13.58Cairennhttp://www.illwillpress.com/xmas.html
04:14.41Cairennoh, sorry ... NSFW - foul language
04:14.59Fanookfoamy rocks
04:15.06CairennFoamy OWNS
04:17.17Legoroldoes anyone know how i get engineering schematics for the winter veil items like snowball gun?
04:18.30Cairennhahahaha http://www.illwillpress.com/zenanger.html
04:19.56TainLegorol: They're random rewards from doing the Winter Veil quests.
04:21.19Legorol:( i got 4xbolts of linen
04:22.23TainYeah, I got leather
04:23.18Legorolwaaaaa, i am collecting all engineering schematics, and you are telling me i can't have these unless i get lucky?
04:24.00TainYep.  or if someone sells it.  I'm pretty sure they're not soulbound
04:24.24TainI know I've seen either the schematic or the machine on the AH before, just not sure which it was.
04:27.44Legoroli guess time to tap into my cash reserves and bribe some people into selling me one
04:28.25Legorolgood thing i have 500g stashed away on an alt for emergencies
04:28.31Legoroli call this an emergency!
04:30.18Fanookwow, people are actually auctioning snowballs
04:31.07Cairennuhhh, why?
04:32.43Fanookcause Lothar is full of idiots
04:34.32Cairennkavorkian scarf!
04:36.59TainEverywhere is. :)  People just don't know that snowballs are being vendor sold.
04:38.14zespriWell where else people would think one can get a snowball? Sure it's not a quest reward and not a crafted item
04:38.45Tainwell, it is a crafted item.
04:38.59TainI'm not sure if they were sold at vendors last year.  They might have been, but I don't remember seeing them.
04:38.59Legorolhello, maybe you could check out these mysterious green goblins under a massive christmas tree? one even offering a quest? ;-)
04:39.09Legorolit's being sold on vendor all right
04:39.32Legorolby one of the two goblins giving out some of the winter veil quests
04:39.34TainOh yeah I know they are this year.
04:39.57TainThey might have last year too, I just don't remember them being.
04:40.05TainBut people will buy anything.
04:40.24Legorolwhat category does it go under in auction house?
04:40.25TainThat's why you can buy a recipe a few buildings away from the AH and sell it for a profit.
04:40.27zesprithey have to much gold =)
04:40.38Legorolyou know, what surprises me is that i never ever go to AH and look in the miscellaneous category
04:40.43Legorolfor that matter i never just browse
04:40.49TainThere's too much in misc.
04:40.50Legoroli'd go there to search for specific items
04:40.58TainAnd you almost can't browse.  If there was a better browsing system I would.
04:41.11Legorolso i would never notice snowball up on the AH
04:41.16TainOn some servers misc is just full of those darkmoon deck cards
04:41.26Legorolso does snowball go in misc?
04:41.35TainAh.. I don't know.  heh
04:41.52Legoroli'll find out!
04:42.11Legorolunfortunately in EU people are more clued up :(
04:42.15Legorolthey don't buy rubbish
04:42.37zespriin my times ungoro soil didn't go in any category as well as ungoro crystals. I gues they put them to misc now to fix that
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04:43.30Legorolah it goes into consumable
04:44.00Legorolhehe, no deposit
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04:45.23Beladonatooky tooky!
04:45.33Cairenntoaky toaky
04:45.39Beladonahehe
04:45.51Beladonadid I miss anything good?
04:46.25CairennI'm laughing at Foamy
04:46.28Legorolselling snowballs on AH
05:02.44Cairenngod I love Gello!  http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4412
05:03.53pagefaultinteresting
05:04.13Beladonanice
05:04.31Beladonathink that would apply to my shaman as well?
05:04.32Cairennhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=280440&p=1&tmp=1#post280440
05:04.34Beladonahehe
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05:06.12End-foodhmm
05:06.23Endapparently in ZG my 300 fishing will actually come in useful
05:07.06Fanookheh, that's a brilliant addon
05:11.46Beladonawow looks seriously sexy in 1920x1200 widescreen
05:13.11pagefaultI bet
05:14.34TainI run 1280x768 with my little widescreen, it's great.
05:39.23GuillotineOMG! my gf just noticed the craziest thing. On the holiday vendor, the icons are messed up. [Blue Wrapping Paper] is Green, [Green Wrapping Pape]r is red, and [Purple Wrapping Paper] is blue :/
05:41.36Cairennyou're right, it's messed up on my screen too
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05:48.28Cairennwb Norque
05:48.57Norquethanks... *grumbles about kicking switch power supplies*
05:51.13Cairennactually, Guillotine ... no, it isn't messed up ... look at it closer ... it is "Blue *Ribboned* Wrapping Paper" ... the *Ribbon* is blue
05:51.20Cairennnot the paper
05:51.59Guillotineahhhh
05:53.26Cairennyeah, took me a bit too
05:53.55Beladonamaybe the vendor is color blind?
05:54.05Beladonaoh
05:55.17Cairennso, I'm seeing a ton of folks running around in Santa costumes ... where are they getting them?
05:57.51Cairennanyone have any idea? or are they one of the random quest rewards from GreatFather Winter?
06:09.52Cairennnm
06:12.50futrtrublwhat lvl is your Azjol Cairenn?
06:12.59Cairennhuh?
06:13.40Cairennhang on, brb, need to reboot the system
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06:19.42Temmmm there is just something special about being free for a month
06:19.52Cairenn?
06:20.05Cairennfree from/of?
06:20.08Temclass
06:20.11Cairennahhh
06:20.45Fanooknot just free from class, free from class with presents in the middle of the month
06:21.03Temah yes, free stuff is good too
06:21.15Guillotineis the command this:UnRegister or this:Unregister?
06:21.31TemUnregister
06:27.57TemCairenn: have I ever told you how nasty a color "Cairenn" comes out to in gaim?
06:28.20CairennIt's the same colour for my Gaim as Cair is
06:28.28Temand similarly, how nice a color "Cair" is.
06:28.44TemWell that's because it always shows you as blue, silly
06:28.45Cairennwell, a very *very* slightly lighter blue than the Cair
06:28.48Cairenn:p
06:29.03Cairennand no, you haven't
06:29.32TemOh, don't worry about it, I've just fixed it
06:29.42TemYou are aliased as "Cair" now
06:31.24CairennI mean, you've mentioned you didn't like the colour, but never told me what it was :p
06:34.15Temit was this sickly teal
06:34.22Tembut it's all better now
06:34.52Temgood lord, how is gello so good at making randomly awesome and useful mods?
06:35.14GuillotineCairenn, how do you set two people to be equal authors for an addon on WoWI?
06:35.31Temhahaha! He uploaded Sympathy
06:35.32CairennYou don't
06:35.45CairennTem: yeah, I linked it earlier :)
06:35.53CairennI adore Gello, he is so funny
06:36.07Guillotinecairenn: you can't? :'(
06:36.32CairennOne of you uploads, and give both of you credit in the write-up.  *shrug*
06:37.00Guillotinedang. but curse can have two authors...
06:37.28CairennWell then, go post it at Curse :)
06:37.29TemJust be patient
06:38.10Temthe most awesomest of awesomes is coming, but one must be patient.
06:38.28Temthat came off kinda cult-like, didn't it?
06:39.28Cairennonly if you have any inkling of that which you allude to, Tem, which most don't
06:40.12TemThings must be kept that way for a reason
06:40.30CairennStop teasing hun
06:40.33Cairenn:)
06:41.34TemI'm supposed to be working on my AUF setup
06:41.44TemI have the hardest time getting started on things
06:42.09Beladonahow many people know of the unknown?
06:42.15Beladona0.o
06:42.23kremonte:o
06:42.32Cairennmost of the Ace team, since they helped with the concept
06:42.32kremonteyou cant give me author too on wowi ? :(
06:42.43Cairennso go post it on Curse
06:42.46Beladonawell, I can see why
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06:43.23Cairennit's been discussed in depth in the Ace channel previously, but isn't here or elsewhere for obvious reasons
06:43.32Beladonayeah
06:43.54Beladonaand the more we bait the hook, the more nibbles we will get so lets just reel in for now =P
06:44.25Cairennand isn't even discussed there any longer, since that channel has become more popular of late and I no longer know everyone in there well enough to trust to their discretion
06:44.26BeladonaI wish I was in bed
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06:45.03CairennI wish I could get warm
06:46.08BeladonaI am at work, and debating whether I should do a little more, or save it for tomorrow night
06:47.00Temwhat
06:47.06TemBeladona: where do you live?
06:47.11Tem(a time zone will do)
06:47.14BeladonaFL
06:47.18BeladonaEST
06:47.23Beladona1:47 am
06:47.30Temwhy the hell are you at work at 1:47 in the morning?
06:47.40Temor do you not go in until noonish?
06:47.52Beladonabecayse people get cranky when I shut servers down while they are here
06:47.54CairennBela = IT
06:47.57Beladona0.o
06:48.08Temflexible hours == Good Thing (tm)
06:48.11Guillotinehaha. Kremonte and I both had our bots create an infinite response loop trying to crash ourselves
06:48.20Guillotinetom, crash us is <reply> panda, crash us
06:48.23Beladonaand?
06:48.23Temthat's funny
06:48.28Guillotinepanda, crash us is <reply> tom, crash us
06:48.31Guillotinetom, crash us
06:48.38Guillotineit went on until we restarted
06:48.40Guillotinebut it didnt crash us :(
06:48.40Tempanda crash us
06:48.42Guillotinenot fast enough
06:48.56Guillotinei thought we'd be kicked for flood error
06:48.58Beladonadid you create a minimum delay?
06:49.13GuillotineBeladona: nope
06:49.17Beladonahmmm
06:49.33Beladonapurl has a minimum delay
06:49.34Temdo like purl does if you request a factoid too often
06:49.40Tem~emulate stewie
06:49.41purlDamn you, damn the broccoli, and damn the Wright Brothers!
06:50.04Tem(I just got a pm saying that someone else just said that)
06:50.27Beladonayou could cache the last 5 requests, and if the next request matches any of those 5, it doesn't return
06:50.39kremonte~friday
06:50.40purlFriday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway.
06:50.45Tem~today
06:50.46purlFriday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway.
06:50.54Osagasu~yesterday
06:50.55purlYesterday? it sucked.
06:50.59Osagasu~tomowwo
06:51.02Beladonahaha
06:51.03Osagasu~tomorrow
06:51.05purlTomorrow will probably suck too.
06:51.10OsagasuxD
06:51.14Beladona~suck
06:51.16purl:(
06:51.16Temlol nice
06:51.19Beladonahaha
06:51.22Cairenn~life
06:51.24kremonte~saturday
06:51.26purlSaturday is the day that sucks the least!
06:51.36Tem~unproductivity
06:51.37purlyay!
06:51.41kremonte~sunday
06:51.42purlSunday sucks, because tomorrow is monday (See monday).  Also, sunday is the day we do all the stuff we should've done Saturday, but didn't.
06:51.52Depherioslol
06:51.54Tem~distractions
06:52.16Cairennpurl, life is <reply> Life sucks.
06:52.17purl...but life is already something else...
06:52.20Osagasu~saturday
06:52.22purlSaturday is the day that sucks the least!
06:52.22Tem~emulate kergoth
06:52.23purltem: Why don't you leave, and come back when you've got some clue?
06:52.25kremontepurl, literal life
06:52.26purl"life" is "so wonderful, or like a box of chocolates.  A cheap, thoughtless, perfunctory gift that nobody ever asks for. a terminal, sexually-transmitted disease, or apt-get install sex and wine, or life is a long turt you are forced to take a bite of every day."
06:52.51Depherios~today
06:52.52purlFriday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway.
06:53.10Depheriosaww... I wanted today as in yesterday in tomorrow... oh well... it sucks
06:55.31Tem~today
06:55.33purlsucks.
06:55.46Tem~yesterday
06:55.48purlYesterday? it sucked.
06:55.55Tem~tommorow
06:56.01Tem~tomorrow
06:56.03purlTomorrow will probably suck too.
06:56.08Tem~today
06:56.09purlsucks.
06:56.14Cairenn~42
06:56.15purlmethinks 42 is the answer to life the universe and everything, see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_answer_to_life,_the_universe,_and_everything
06:56.18Tem~today
06:56.19purlsucks.
06:56.27Temgah! purls randomness is terrible
06:56.28Tem~today
06:56.30purlsucks.
06:56.35Tem!!
06:56.47Depherios~now
06:56.48purlhmm... now is a good time to tell you that I have 6 gigabytes of data
06:56.56Tem~today
06:56.57purlsucks.
06:57.04Tem~literal today
06:57.05purl"today" is "<reply> see $day || <reply> sucks."
06:57.20Depherioswtf lol
06:57.25Tem~today
06:57.27purlFriday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway.
06:57.30Temfinaly
06:57.33Depherioslol
06:57.52Temanyway... back to what I'm supposed to be doing
07:08.28DepheriosROFL @ W3C
07:08.33Cairennanyone here use iTunes?
07:08.35Depherioshttp://www.w3.org/2001/tag/issues.html#ultimateQuestion-42
07:11.26Depherioshow many pages of junk will Blizz let you stack up in your mailbox?
07:11.52DepheriosI have 5 pages of expired and won auctions I'm too lazy to deal with... or I'm just keeping there
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07:15.26FanookI use iTunes
07:19.21CairennFanook: is your user name registered with nickserv?
07:19.33Fanookaye
07:19.40Cairennsent you a PM
07:20.30TemI too, use iTunes
07:20.38Temwell, sort of
07:21.28Guillotinehey Cairenn, could you approve panda?
07:21.33Guillotinejust submited it
07:21.45Guillotinebut now I lose my cool title :( I have to become an addon developer on WoWI instead
07:21.58Cairenn?
07:22.18GuillotineI was a Wyrmkin Dreamwalker
07:22.41Guillotinenow it will say Addon dev or something, won't it?
07:23.10Guillotineor was the ? about what panda is?
07:23.22Guillotineits Kremonte and my port of Purl to WoW
07:23.40Beladonayou will have a button that says that
07:23.46BeladonaI don't believe it changes your title
07:23.55Guillotinereally? cool!
07:24.50Cairennapproved, Guillotine
07:24.55Guillotineyay!
07:25.41kremonteyay
07:25.43Beladonachange the text
07:25.50BeladonaI think you were half drunk when you typed it
07:26.07Beladona"Panda, Guillotine" will recieve the result "~~As far as I know, Arenai is awesome".
07:26.12Beladona.......
07:26.17Guillotineoops
07:26.19Guillotinehehe
07:26.20Beladona"panda, Kremonte is <reply> What? who? where?" will result in Panda saying (when someone asks for info on Guillotine) "~~What? who? where?"
07:26.23kremontelol
07:26.33Guillotinehehe. i changed some names on the readme...
07:26.36Cairennpost a thread in the Released forum, hey ...
07:26.37Guillotineand not others apparently
07:26.42Beladonahehe
07:27.15Guillotineis there any way to change that text?
07:27.21Guillotinenm. i got it
07:28.14Guillotinehow do I add screenshots?
07:28.14Beladonamy only problem is, what if multiple people have the bot installed?
07:28.21Beladonawill all of their bots reply?
07:28.22Guillotinethen they both respond
07:28.30Guillotineunless they have different names
07:28.33Beladonaok so what if you have an entire guild with it
07:28.34Guillotineif i could upload screenshots, it would show that the name is easily changable
07:28.42kremonteyou should change names, Beladona
07:28.45Guillotinethen they better all have different names
07:28.47kremontelike on draenor, mine was tom
07:28.47Guillotinelol
07:29.09Beladonaso it really isn't a channel bot
07:29.13Beladonaits a personal bot
07:29.18kremontehuh
07:29.24kremonteoh
07:29.32kremontewell, personal channels arent widespread enough
07:29.39Beladonanot what I meant
07:29.48kremontehm?
07:29.51Beladonait is local to the person who has it installed
07:29.55Guillotineno
07:29.59Guillotinenow theres a screenshot
07:29.59kremontebut everyone else can see and use it
07:29.59Beladonaother people can add stuff to it
07:30.00kremonteo
07:30.15Guillotineits like purl
07:30.17Beladonayou guys should looks into ways to make it persistent
07:30.20kremonteso if guillotine types "tom, kremonte is here"
07:30.22Guillotinepersistent?
07:30.28Beladonalike have the bots communicate on login to see who is master
07:30.32kremonteoh
07:30.34kremonteer.
07:30.36Beladonaand only have that bot rtespond
07:30.38Guillotinena
07:30.39Beladonabut they all share data
07:30.42futrtrublgot a new BEB version up
07:30.43Guillotinethey all have different names
07:30.45Guillotineand have different data
07:30.51Beladonaif a bot logs out, another becomes master
07:30.56kremontek, zz time, nn
07:30.57Guillotinebut their not all panda
07:31.00Guillotinesome are Tom
07:31.02Guillotineor Guill
07:31.06futrtrublnot the framestrata fix Cair, just getting this fix and addition out of the way before concentrating on that
07:31.07BeladonaI am just throwing ideas
07:31.08GuillotinePanda is just the addon name and default bot name
07:31.21BeladonaI don't see where having 20 bots in a channel really does anyone any good
07:31.27Beladonabut thats just me
07:31.28Depherioslol
07:31.40Cairennapproved
07:31.40Depheriosdoesn't do any bad either
07:31.51futrtrublthanks Cair
07:31.53Beladonaits akin to the "Heal Me" addon
07:31.59Depherioslol
07:32.02Depheriosactually
07:32.07Beladonapeople are gonna get sick of teh spam and start ignoring people
07:32.16DepheriosI like hunters and 'locks with a brief announcement when their pet is near death
07:32.20Depheriosfor raids
07:32.28Depheriosbut that's it
07:32.51Beladonawell, all we can do is see what happens
07:33.05Beladonait could be very well recieved, or it could piss a lot of people off
07:33.12Beladonapersonally it is a neat idea
07:33.16Beladonaimho
07:33.24Beladonabut I see potential for abuse
07:33.48Beladonaeither way, good work Guill
07:33.52Beladonaand Kremonte
07:35.03Guillotinemeh. their annoyed, they can ignore it
07:35.11Beladonayeah
07:35.15Guillotinehey, kremonte wanted to make it work on Yell
07:35.20GuillotineI said no way :/
07:35.22Guillotinelol
07:35.31Beladonalotta good that will do. I didn't know you guys were doing MC! I had the guild ignored....
07:36.42Guillotinehaha
07:37.08Guillotinemaybe we can come out with another addon. Panda Ignore. Will ignore all of Panda's responses along with anything directed at a panda bot
07:37.20Beladonabtw
07:37.22Guillotinebut charge for that one
07:37.24Beladonapeople are generally stupid
07:37.27Beladonayou know this
07:37.29Guillotineyes
07:37.36Guillotinemost ppl won't understand this bot at all
07:37.36Beladonamost people will leave Panda as the name
07:37.40GuillotineI know
07:37.47Guillotinetheir fault
07:37.54Guillotine:)
07:38.02Guillotineits rather obvious how to change the name
07:38.06futrtrublok, so the minimap is just masked to make it round, is it the same way with unit frame portraits?
07:38.28Beladonaagain, never underestimate the stupidity of the general public
07:38.33Beladona=P
07:38.49Guillotineok. g2g guys
07:38.54Depheriosyes, some of the defaults don't have alpha channels @ futrtrubl
07:38.54Guillotinehopefull SOMEONE will dl Panda...
07:39.17futrtrublso the portraits could be made square?
07:39.29Depherios...... can you make the minimap square?
07:39.38Depheriosif you have, tell me, and I will love you forever
07:39.38futrtrublyup
07:39.42DepheriosOMFG
07:39.43DepheriosHOW
07:39.46GuillotineDepherios: easily. see the addon on WoWI
07:39.49Guillotinethat chagnes the shape
07:39.50DepheriosYUSS
07:39.53Guillotinelol
07:39.54futrtrubllook up the mod "Square Minimap" ;']
07:40.11DepheriosI hate the round one, it's going to goof up my interface!
07:40.55futrtrublTain also made a half square one
07:41.03Depherios?
07:41.11BeladonaI installed then snow thing from Tom
07:41.15Beladonaand had issues
07:41.16futrtrubltop is curved
07:41.19Beladonaparts were cut off
07:41.19Depherioswhat's the one on WoWInterface?
07:41.38futrtrublnot sure, I got mine from worldofwar
07:41.51Depheriosyeah, I found the worldofwar one, but I like to check all my bases ^_^
07:42.02Beladonaanyway, time to go home and go to bed
07:42.06Beladonanight all
07:42.07DepheriosG'night
07:42.12futrtrublg'night
07:43.53Depheriosdude... *I* can do that! how did I not notice that mask...
07:44.08Depheriosmask
07:44.11Depherios... AHAHAHAHAHA
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07:44.35Depherioshere, I'll find the portrait mask for you
07:45.42futrtrublthanks Depherios
07:46.14futrtrublI use DUF, and the round portraits don't fit in with the rest of the frame
07:58.33DepheriosSorry got distracted (food was done XD)
07:58.40DepheriosNOW I'm finding the masks
07:59.51futrtrubl;']
08:00.33Depheriosnever bothered with texture.mpq before
08:01.21Depheriosbah... no wonder, killed 2 programs so far XD
08:01.40DepheriosWinMPQ better work, or I'm giving up
08:02.00Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3990
08:02.15CairennDepherios, that link was for you
08:02.20Depherioslol thanks
08:02.33DepheriosWinMPQ just died *gets that one*
08:02.39Cairennif you use the original WinMPQ, it'll stack overflow on you
08:02.58Depherioslol all my MPQ proggies are from the oldendays anyway
08:03.05Depherioseven my WinMPQ is ancient
08:03.57DepheriosI need to organize all these game utilities
08:06.16Depherioscome on new WinMPQ you can do it!
08:06.27futrtrublyou caan doo eet.
08:06.30Depheriosdon't MAKE me do it on Jack
08:06.41Depherios(Jack being my faster computer)
08:07.03futrtrublyou don't know Jack
08:07.17Cairennyou do also know that you can just use the Blizz extraction tool, right?
08:07.29Depheriosit does /textures/ ???
08:07.34futrtrublfor the artwork yup
08:07.39Temaye
08:07.40Depheriosthe blizz tool just does /interface/ doesn't it?
08:07.41Cairenn...
08:07.46Tembut they are in blp format
08:07.52futrtrublnope, artwork too, if you tell it to
08:07.54DepheriosI can handle BLP
08:07.55Cairenncode & graphics both
08:08.04DepheriosDamn... *does that* I already have it all extracted XD
08:08.19futrtrublDepherios, your entire world is being turned upside down ;']
08:08.19Cairennyou can?!  you've got a conversion tool that *works*?!
08:08.26DepheriosI have two that work
08:08.33futrtrublI can handle blps
08:08.38Depheriosincluding alpha channels
08:08.40Cairennlinks, plzkthxbai
08:08.45Temyes please
08:08.47Depherioscan't convert back INTO BLP
08:08.52Depherios.... so if it needs that, I'm screwed
08:08.52Cairennthat's fine
08:08.56Cairennit isn't
08:08.57Temall the conversion tools I have a shitty shitty shitty
08:08.57futrtrublyeah, I keep mine in tga
08:09.03CairennWoW will read tga just fine
08:09.06Depheriosyeah
08:09.08Temaye, I keep it in targa
08:09.09Depheriospreciesely
08:09.17DepheriosI was wondering about the mask thing though XD
08:09.25futrtrublthough the blp compression would be nice
08:09.27DepheriosI can convert but not with alpha (to BLP)
08:09.40CairennI've got all the graphics converted, from back when the one blp tool worked
08:09.53Cairennbut, it doesn't work any more &/or can't be found any longer
08:10.05Depheriosmine is old
08:10.07Cairennand I'd *really* like to have links to ones that do, for the "tools" thread
08:10.10TemThe best conversion tool I've been able to find messes up the alpha layer
08:10.19Depheriosto convert to or from?
08:10.19Temand flips everything upside-down
08:10.29Depheriosoh... I had that one Tem
08:10.42futrtrublBlizz may not support addons, but they implicitly support the making of addons, they need to make more tools than just the GUI extractor
08:10.47Temannoying as hell to rebuild the alpha layer
08:11.43futrtrublactually the support of the making of addons is pretty explicit
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08:11.58Cairennhey krka|work :)
08:14.06Temfutrtrubl: whatever the support, I want a blp2 -> tga that works well
08:14.24futrtrublagreed Tem
08:15.01futrtrublthey give us a way to extract the blps but not any way to do anything with them. That doesn't make sense to me
08:15.30futrtrublthey don't even give us enough info to make tools to do things with blps
08:15.45Depheriosit has NOT already been installed you silly snit!
08:15.51futrtrubl;']
08:16.04futrtrubldelete your frameXML folder
08:16.08Depheriosgive me my piccies... and not the /interface/buttons/ crap either... I need /textures
08:16.10Depheriosit is gone
08:16.11DepheriosI moved it
08:16.40futrtrublmaybe you do need to use the good WinMPQ
08:17.48Depheriosoh no, I'll just do it on the laptop, which is low on memory... and probably blow something up
08:17.50DepheriosBUT I'LL DO IT
08:18.01DepheriosBoo
08:18.05Depheriosthis is just the /interface/ stuff
08:18.11Depheriosoh... maybe not
08:18.11Depheriosgood
08:18.34DepheriosI need texture.mpq :P
08:19.08Temthen open and texture.mpq
08:19.09Temlazy
08:19.16Depheriosit dies
08:19.17Depherioslol
08:19.44TemHonestly, I only use the Interface extractor over WinMPQ because I like the sound effect
08:19.55Depheriosll
08:19.56Depherioslol
08:20.04Depheriostoo Diablo for me XD
08:20.14Depheriosthat's the Bnet click
08:20.39Depheriosor do you mean the "complete" sound?
08:21.24Depheriosyeah, no textures folder..... I knew I'd already run the kit! hah!
08:21.25DepheriosXD
08:21.36Temno, I mean the War3 trailer sound it makes when you finish
08:21.42Depherioslol
08:22.26krka|workhey
08:23.25Depheriosyay winMPQ is working fine on Jack (I think)
08:23.30futrtrublwhat do you need from texture.mpq?
08:23.45futrtrublit's working fine for me
08:23.58futrtrublso I can grab what you need, rar them and send to you
08:23.59DepheriosI've got it... dunno what I need... have to browse... I love browsing XD
08:24.07futrtrubl;']
08:24.18Depheriosbrowse yourself, beat me to it xD
08:25.36futrtrublBakedNPCTextures? what the hell are those
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08:25.57Depheriossure is a lot of them
08:26.35futrtrublyay BloodSplats ;']
08:26.43DepheriosI'm ahead of you!
08:26.50AnduinLotharmoo
08:26.58futrtrubl;'] but I'm having more fun
08:27.00Cairenn*purrs*
08:27.16Depherioscrap.... minimap mask... ..... don't... see.... portrait mask
08:27.24DepheriosOH
08:27.26Depheriosno
08:27.38Depheriosbut that's nice anyway UnitSelectTexture.blp
08:27.49Depherioswtf is WaterPoop02
08:28.14futrtrubllol
08:28.25futrtrublnot WaterPlop02?
08:28.35Depheriosno
08:28.40DepheriosWaterPoop02
08:28.44DepheriosI extracted it, viewing it now XD
08:28.55futrtrublI don't want to know, sounds contagious
08:29.28Depherios... OH
08:29.32Depheriosit's all the littel flotsam XD
08:29.36Depheriosthat goes by when you're underwater
08:29.43Depherioslol
08:30.30futrtrublWorld\Goober\ ;']
08:32.37futrtrublI wish WinMPQ had a find feature
08:33.18Depheriosditto
08:33.52Depheriosoh
08:33.53Depheriosmy
08:33.55Depheriosgod
08:34.12Depheriosthink they're all using the temp portraits alpha mask?
08:35.00futrtrublInterface\CharacterFrame\TempPortraitAlphaMask.blp
08:35.02DepheriosI was just going in to re-verify to myself that they didn't have alpha layers (the temporary portrait) and I see TempPortraitAlphaMask.blp XD
08:35.05Depheriosyeah
08:35.46futrtrublInterface\CharacterFrame\UI-Player-Portrait.blp
08:35.47Depheriosand some of the portraits do have alpha masks, but they're funny O_o
08:35.58DepheriosUI-Player-Portrait is actually the playerframe's overlay
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08:40.01Depheriosbtw, if anybody wants it, I have a "mod" that removes the ESRB logo on the login screen (by making it transparent) XD -- god I hate that thing
08:41.20Depheriosgatherer is going to be so ugly now XD -- I'll have to put a radar ring on the minimap to make it not look so out of place
08:42.42pagefaultthere is a logo?
08:42.44pagefaultI never even noticed
08:42.47Depheriosnot logo
08:42.51Depheriosthe ESRB notice... the rating
08:43.09Depheriosthat gameplay experience may change during online play XD
08:43.13pagefaultoh
08:43.17pagefaultI never noticed it until you pointed it out
08:43.18pagefaultto be honest
08:43.19pagefaulthehe
08:44.03Depheriosthat's definitely the mask it uses for the portrait
08:44.24Depheriostoo bad the minimap one isn't working right for some reason XD
08:44.53futrtrublhow so?
08:44.54AnduinLotharwhy do you hate the logo on the loading page... it's just a loading page. what're u loading in full screen for anyway?
08:45.04Depheriosnot loading... the login screen
08:45.09AnduinLotharya that
08:45.26AnduinLotharwhat're u logging in in full screen for?
08:45.37Depheriosmy monitor has uber high brightness and contrast ratio... that thing was BRIGHT
08:45.52AnduinLothar... there are controls for that..
08:45.58DepheriosXD
08:46.19DepheriosI hae them how I like them, but the monitor auto adjusts brightness up in darker areas, kicking that little logo in the corner up to BURNINATE
08:46.35AnduinLotharlol... lame monitor
08:46.38Depheriosand I accidentally leave the login screen on all the time
08:46.50DepheriosI have the option turned on...
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08:48.09TemTROGDOOOR!
08:48.24Depherioslol
08:48.43Depheriosnothing cracked me up than seeing burninate in the FF1 & 2 remake for GBA
08:49.33futrtrublwhat is your favorite blp converter?
08:49.41Depheriosdunno what it's called
08:49.52Depheriossome dinky little one
08:50.02futrtrublthe one that makes pngs?
08:50.08Depheriosno
08:50.15Depheriosit's called BLPtoTGA XD
08:50.21DepheriosBLPtoTGA.exe
08:50.26futrtrublk
08:51.02Depheriosonly one I've found that isn't REALLY buggy and does alpha channels right
08:51.40Kolthfutrtrubl: http://vjeux.grabu.free.fr/BLP2/
08:52.17futrtrublI wonder if the tga to blp2 convertor works...
08:52.21Depheriosnot well
08:52.24Depheriosit DOES
08:52.42DepheriosI'm downloading thise one to see if it's newer than mine XD
08:54.37Depherioslol, I have that one actually... in a differet folder ALREADY called newBLP to TGA -- but that's not the one I have referenced in windows...... eh, whatever XD
08:54.43Depheriosprobably a reason for that
08:57.02futrtrublsweet, those blps are the right masks. time to finnish off my ui ;']
08:57.21Depheriosyup... time for me to add one more thing to my list of things to do! WOO
08:59.10Depheriossquare portraits though... now I can actually USE portraits in my interface, I was going to ditch them... and square minimap makes it so I don't have to have a few other round elements to keep the minimap from looking silly
09:00.09Depheriosoh, and square minimap makes my interface look even more like an RTS games
09:01.26futrtrublbut you can give it any border you want now ;']
09:01.32DepheriosI will XD
09:01.58DepheriosI'll probably have an indentation in it somewhere... and one rounded corner or two
09:01.59futrtrublmaking a discord UI?
09:02.05Depheriossort of
09:02.12Depheriosnot discord, just pretty
09:02.17futrtrublk
09:02.23Depheriosusing DUF, and DAB to get it set up
09:02.35futrtrublso then it is a discord UI ;']
09:02.39Depheriosbut when I finalize it, I'll ditch them, and make those elements myself (if I ever get it concrete enough)
09:02.51Depheriosalso, TONS of the textures are already added myself XD
09:02.56Depherios(no DART)
09:03.02Depheriosso I might keep doing it that way
09:04.20Depheriosit's not a discord UI because it uses a ton of things I've made myself, or aren't discord... DUF is most of it though... couldn't do it without DUF
09:05.01futrtrublare you going to upload the SquarePortraits or shall I?
09:05.06Depheriosonly thing I'm using DART for at the moment, is horizontal life bars, and a few silly bars
09:05.12DepheriosYou go ahead, it was your idea
09:05.18futrtrublwill do ;']
09:06.56Depheriosnow, my UI has NOTHING ROUND
09:07.07Depheriosnot ... a ... thing
09:07.18Depheriosoh wait!
09:07.30Depheriosno... ONE thing.. the DepositBox button on Titan Panel XD
09:08.05Depherios...which will change when I make my UI (as I'll be taking all the yellow/gold out of Titan, oh... THAT won't be fun at all D:)
09:10.53futrtrublwhat's the artwork around the portrait called?
09:11.04Depheriosthe one you listed before
09:11.22DepheriosUI-Player-Portrait
09:11.29Depheriosfor the player
09:11.39futrtrublactually, that's too much work, it's not the only texture that would need modifying
09:11.47Depherioslol
09:11.51DepheriosI might do it tomorrow
09:12.06Depheriostarget, party, player, elite... any other frames I'm forgetting?
09:12.22futrtrublall the rare/elite/party/target/status textures would need changing
09:12.27Depheriosrelease it anyway, for Discord people
09:12.32futrtrublI am
09:12.46Depheriosflash textures... hmm
09:12.54futrtrublyup, that too
09:13.12futrtrublsquare elite/rare will not be fun to make
09:13.19Depheriosfun for me XD
09:13.25Depheriosactually
09:13.28DepheriosI already have one started
09:13.30futrtrublcool
09:13.42futrtrublyou a PS guru?
09:13.45Depherioswas going to make it for discord people with a square portrait border
09:13.50Depherioswas
09:13.58Depherios... haven't been in 3-4 years
09:14.10futrtrublwant PS CS2?
09:14.16Depheriosmy GF could just freaking draw a dragon for me though..... should have her
09:14.23Depherioslol... sure, still using 6 XD
09:14.36Depheriosno wait... GFs laptop has CS
09:14.44futrtrublyou registered with nickserv?
09:14.51Depheriosyah
09:15.06Depherioshave been since the first 5 minutes I was in here XD
09:24.13futrtrublawww, I have to have a screenshot to upload a mod to WoWI?
09:24.32Depheriosyou'd want one anyway wouldn't you? D
09:25.06futrtrublyeah, I spose
09:25.06Depheriosneed to calm down... on the XDs... just because I'm really happy... does not mean I have to end every line in an emote (almost does it this time)
09:25.21futrtrubl;']
09:26.36Depherioseh... we'll see
09:29.39futrtrublI need to do that too, especially since I'm moving out in a week
09:34.09Depherioseh... can they even go bad?
09:34.31KolthAsking that implies they can ever be good :P
09:34.39Depheriostrue
09:34.51DepheriosI don't have a particular like for them... but I'm hungry
09:34.58KolthThey are quite grand.
09:36.19AnduinLotharim hungry too, but there's nothign here
09:36.30AnduinLotharmmm, wait. i have corndogs
09:36.31Depheriosditto
09:36.42Depherios...hence why I'm eating strange fruit roll up's off my floor
09:37.06Depheriosa co-worker has another job at a Subway, and brings them in to work
09:37.23Depheriosfrom subway XD
09:37.26futrtrublmmmm, I jusr had some Jumbolaya, or whatever it's spelled
09:37.47DepheriosI had a ramen, but I ate it
09:37.54futrtrubljust* that I can spell
09:37.56AnduinLotharmmm, soup sounds good
09:44.29Temis there any way for a rogue to get a max of 120 energy?
09:44.33AnduinLothar:( no soup
09:44.49AnduinLotharsome random microwavable pad thai.. wonder if that's any good
09:45.01Ktron|niteTem yes
09:45.08Ktron|niteThere's a set bonus of +10 energy
09:45.20Ktron|niteand rogues can specialize to get another 10 extra
09:45.24AnduinLotharwonder what i can make with pasta and creem of mushroom soup..
09:45.34Ktron|niteKtron|?
09:45.36Temaha
09:45.38AnduinLothargot all sorts of spices..
09:45.57AnduinLotharsome mushrooms, maybe some diced ham..
09:46.05AnduinLotharcheese
09:52.51AnduinLotharmmm, the pad thai's not too bad
09:53.08futrtrublgot any parmasian?
09:53.34AnduinLothari might
09:54.10AnduinLotharnope, but i do have some couscous
09:57.43Temlater everyone
09:57.44Temsleep time
09:57.51Cairennnight Tem
09:59.06pagefaultah yeah
09:59.08pagefaulttylenol 3
09:59.11pagefaultthat hits the spot
09:59.14pagefaultreally bad headache
09:59.42futrtrubldamn it, Titan support is too dificult until 1.9 makes me not need my own dissabling code
10:17.09futrtrublwell, time for me to sleep too. See you guys today.
10:35.29CairennI"m out, talk to everyone in a few hours
10:36.21Kolthnight Cairenn|sleep
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14:17.19krka|worki wish the ui forums were international
14:26.43TainYeah I agree.  That would be nice.
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15:10.04MoonWolfAnybody home ?
15:16.32TainMaybe
15:18.37MoonWolfyay talking.
15:18.48MoonWolfwhat happend to all the peoples ?
15:19.20TainDunno.  Haven't seen anyone.
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16:24.29futrtrublwhat a glorious day. Mine started with a nose bleed, damn desert
16:32.19MoonWolfdeserts make your nose bleed ?
16:34.36TainDry air does it.  Sucks.
16:36.54MoonWolfkish
16:38.58kremontemornin all
16:47.46TainHey ya.
16:57.06futrtrublI hate dryness. "It's a dry heat" is NOT a good thing!
16:58.13futrtrublwell, in a week I will leave this place forever and live on my humid island.
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17:07.12Beladonahi
17:07.42futrtrublmornin
17:08.04Beladonaanyone had experience with creating an animation on a second delay?
17:08.15futrtrubllike how?
17:08.20BeladonaI got it to work, but the client slows to a crawl every time it fires
17:08.29Beladonain wow
17:08.42futrtrublyou want tit to wait a second and then animate?
17:08.50futrtrubland animate how?
17:08.53Beladonawell
17:08.56futrtrubltit=it
17:08.59Beladonabasically I need to do a timed event
17:09.13Beladonalike a function that does something every second for 10 seconds
17:09.33futrtrubldid you use some timer code in OnUpdate?
17:09.44Beladonayeah
17:09.46futrtrublactually, can you pastebin th code?
17:09.49Beladonabut its horribly slow
17:12.04Beladonahttp://wow.pastebin.com/466764
17:13.45futrtrublouch, GetTime
17:13.52Beladonayeah
17:14.08Beladonaits not that bad
17:14.16BeladonaI can make it do something based on each second
17:14.19Beladonabut
17:15.03Beladonamaybe I am doing this wrong
17:15.06futrtrublthis happens in a frames OnUpdate handler right?
17:15.09BeladonaGetTime returns in miliseconds right
17:15.20futrtrublit returns seconds
17:15.26Beladonayou sure?
17:15.34futrtrublyup
17:15.54futrtrublso this is in an OnUpdate?
17:16.05Beladonano
17:16.21Beladonait will be called from within an OnEvent that is triggered when the player levels up
17:16.22futrtrublwhen does this get called/
17:16.36Beladonathe purpose is to set the lpha level of a texture and increment it by 0.1 for 10 seconds
17:17.07futrtrublbut to do that you have to have something in an OnUpdate handler
17:17.18Beladonano, I dont
17:17.34futrtrublwierd, it shouldn't be working then ;']
17:17.46Beladonadon't think you understand
17:18.05BeladonaI am registering for the PLAYER_LEVEL_UP event
17:18.11Beladonawhen that event fires
17:18.24Beladonamy OnEvent function will fire the timer
17:18.34Beladonawhich will set the alpha levels per second
17:18.43Beladonathe purpose is to flash a custom experience bar on level
17:18.49Beladonasimilar to the casting bar
17:18.54futrtrublyes, but nothing ever calls a function to update the timer and you alpha
17:19.13Beladonawhat?
17:19.23Beladonathe function I pasted runs until the alpha is at full 1.0
17:19.32Beladonafor 10 seconds
17:19.52futrtrublthe PLAYER_LEVEL_UP event fires once, but you needsomething that calls code constantly or nothing will change.
17:19.53Beladonastep = alpha
17:20.06Beladonaomg
17:20.11Beladonawhat do you think while does?
17:20.30futrtrublahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! that's your problem
17:20.33Beladonawhile step is less than 1, it will continue to run that block of code
17:20.39Beladonait works
17:20.46futrtrublit tries to do the entire while in one frame
17:20.48Beladonait prints 10 messages to the chat frame
17:21.36Beladonahow would you do it via Onupdate?
17:22.54Beladonaok I see how
17:22.58Beladonabut here is a question
17:23.26BeladonaOnUpdate is called every 0.1 seconds right?
17:23.36Beladonahow to I restrict that to only when the player levels up?
17:24.01Fanookset a flag on PLAYER_LEVEL_UP, then check in OnUpdate to see if the second has finished
17:24.15Fanookif it has, unset the flag and stop doing the animation
17:24.17futrtrublOnUpdate is every frame. I'm making you some example code right now
17:24.24Beladonaright
17:24.29Beladonaand the default interval is 0.1
17:25.02futrtrublso is the object flashing once per second for 10 seconds?
17:25.51futrtrublas far as I know there is no default interval
17:26.23Fanookisnt it based on framerate or something like that?
17:26.24TainIf you don't do anything different OnUpdate runs at aprox every .13/.14 seconds on my system.
17:27.02TainI think it might be based on framerate, because it isn't static.  I put in a timer to see how often it runs on mine because I was curious
17:28.29futrtrublyup, the "elapsed argument
17:30.03futrtrublbeladona, actually, let me just send you my flashing code
17:31.07futrtrublhttp://wow.pastebin.com/466787
17:31.41futrtrublcall BEB.StartFlashing() when PLAYER_LEVEL_UP happens
17:32.03Beladonahttp://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Use_OnUpdate_correct
17:32.07futrtrublcall BEB.ElementFlashing() in OnUpdate
17:32.08Beladonathat is what I was looking at
17:33.06futrtrublalso start a timer on PLAYER_LEVEL_UP, decrement it in OnUpdate, and when it rechaes zero call BEB.StopFlashing()
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17:48.00futrtrubluh oh, purl is no longer wanted on freenode
18:01.26Tain~today
18:01.29purlFriday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway.
18:01.41kremonte~lart somebody
18:01.51kremontelol
18:02.08TainDamn purl you so crazy
18:05.01MoonWolfi want back the people
18:05.13kremontei love gobby ><
18:05.19kremonte~gobby
18:05.26kremonte~literal gobby
18:05.30kremontegrr purl
18:06.06MoonWolfpurl does not like gobby
18:06.37kremontepurl, Gobby is a multi-user, collaborative text editor, available on both linux and windows, with IRC-like communication and realtime editing, on a local or remote host
18:06.38purlokay, kremonte
18:06.50kremontepurl, no, Gobby is a multi-user, collaborative text editor, available on both linux and windows, with IRC-like communication and realtime editing, on a local or remote host. Gobby can be found at http://gobby.0x539.de/
18:06.52purlkremonte: okay
18:06.54kremonte~gobby
18:06.56purli guess gobby is a multi-user, collaborative text editor, available on both linux and windows, with IRC-like communication and realtime editing, on a local or remote host. Gobby can be found at http://gobby.0x539.de/
18:08.13kremonte~botsnack
18:08.13purlaw, gee, kremonte
18:08.27Beladonahey futr
18:08.45Beladonacan you think of a quick way to fire the flashing anim without levelling up?
18:09.13kremonteBeladona - on the 3d environment?
18:09.20Beladonano
18:09.39kremontewhich anim then? :x
18:09.40BeladonaI created an OnUpdate flashing animation similar to the casting abr for my xp bar
18:09.50Beladonabut it fires on level up
18:12.49Beladonanm figured it out
18:14.08futrtrublsorry, was redoing my flashing code since you got me to look at it ;']
18:14.44BeladonaI got mine working pretty damn good, and small
18:14.49Beladonaonly problem is
18:14.57Beladonait looks like 1 second interval is too slow
18:15.02Beladona=P
18:15.17futrtrublone second to do what? change by 0.1 alpha?
18:15.22Beladonayup
18:15.27Beladonaup to full 1.0
18:15.47Beladonagonna try 0.5 steps instead of 1
18:15.49futrtrubldo a full cycle over 2 seconds
18:16.10futrtrublyou want to start at 0 alpha and end at 1?
18:16.18Beladonaaye, so you think 0.2?
18:16.35Beladonaevery 0.2 seconds I mean
18:17.17futrtrublwell, was thinking more start at 0, rise to 1 over a second, drop to 0 over a second, then rise to 1 over a second
18:17.32BeladonaI am not doing flashing
18:17.38Beladonaits a single flash
18:18.06Beladonaexample: when a spell fails and your casting bar flashes once
18:18.11futrtrublok, rise to 1 over 2 secs, but do it smoothly, not every 0.2 seconds
18:18.18MoonWolfflashing what exactly, i tried to find out by reading but cannot find what you are talking about.
18:18.30Beladonaa custom xp bar
18:18.31futrtrublan element of her xp bar
18:18.39MoonWolfooh, okay.
18:18.54MoonWolfthe overhead health dipslay based one ?
18:19.08Beladonaon level up it will flash, and on xp gain a spark will show at the edge of the progress bar briefly
18:19.59Beladonahttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4396
18:20.32futrtrublBeladona, mind if I steal your idea and add it to BEB, with credits for you of course
18:20.34MoonWolfyeah, the overhead health display based one.
18:20.45Beladonaof course futr
18:20.46MoonWolfor however that stuff you activate with v is called.
18:20.55BeladonaI am putting credit to you in mind for helping me with the animation
18:21.18futrtrubl;'] I think I hindered more than I helped on that Beladona
18:21.19Beladonamind = mine 0.o
18:21.30Beladonayou pointed me in teh right direction
18:21.46Beladonawant to see my code? It is a bit shorter than yours, although I don't need to flash as often as you
18:22.05Fanookre: original question, short of hooking a different event, the only way i can think of to test it is to add a /test slash command that does what the onEvent would do
18:22.37futrtrublsure, but yeah, mine is more general purpose, for flashing elements while resting like the player frame. and thanks to you it will now do more
18:23.39futrtrublwhat was the original question Fanook?
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18:24.10Fanook[13:08] <Beladona> can you think of a quick way to fire the flashing anim without levelling up?
18:24.18futrtrublahh, yes
18:25.02futrtrubldon't even need to do that, do /script MyEventHandler("PLAYER_LEVEL_UP")
18:25.33Fanookdidnt think that worked
18:26.15futrtrublit does, I use it to create my own special events, like 10SEC_UPDATE
18:26.27Fanooknifty
18:26.39Beladonait doesn't if you use this in it
18:26.44Beladona'this'
18:27.08futrtrublthat's true Beladona, then do /script this = MyFrame; MyEventHandler("PLAYER_LEVEL_UP")
18:27.18Beladonamy situation was easy though, I just had to update the flag, which forced an OnUpdate
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18:27.34Fanookso lua takes care of setting event to whatever you pass into it? cause my event handler doesnt have args
18:28.12BeladonaI usually pass the args anyway
18:28.22Beladonalike function(event, arg1, arg2) etc....
18:28.45futrtrublevent I think is a global that's set when an event fires, but in my xml I always call my event function with MyOnEventFunction(event)
18:29.00futrtrubllike Beladona said ;']
18:29.50Beladonalol, default timing is perfect, didn't need the delay code after all
18:29.54futrtrublmeans you can call the function differently without setting the global, which can mess things up
18:30.40Beladonaerr
18:30.48Beladonaake that back, 0.1 may be too fast
18:30.52Fanookfutr: good point
18:31.16Natasem<PROTECTED>
18:31.52futrtrublstupid people, Santa's not religious ;']
18:32.04futrtrublnot anymore at least
18:32.21Beladonathat was a bit stupid
18:32.26futrtrubland how the hell is that a negative portrayal?
18:32.30Beladonabut banning?
18:32.52Natasemi don't know i contacted Blizzard yesterday when i got my bann but they haven't replied back to me yet
18:33.18TainI guess it's negative because you basically said only Christians celebrate Christmas.
18:33.38TainI'm just trying to find whatever the mindset could be.  I have no idea.
18:33.40Fanookwhich is technically true in some fasion
18:33.48futrtrublummm, isn't that true?
18:34.01Beladonano
18:34.03Natasemor i ruined x-mass for all teh little 12 yr olds  " *sniff*...but..mom...u said Santa brought me WOW....i should have known when i found the Best Buy reciept..."
18:34.24Beladonathere are different forms of santa claus all over the world, celebrated differently, not just by christians
18:35.06Beladonabut he didn't say that
18:35.24Beladonahe specifically counted out Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, and Buddhist
18:35.38Beladonawhich may be true
18:35.56futrtrublyeah, he said Santa and Christmass which means Christianity (discounting its pagan roots)
18:37.27Natasemlol
18:38.03Natasemsorry i figured i would break ya'll of the gruleing hardship of codeing, for some fun off topic discusion
18:38.20futrtrubland it worked
18:38.23MoonWolfYay for Sinterklaas
18:40.14TainIt's not entirely true though.  Sure clasically it is, but a lot of different people still exchange gifts at Christmas because it's almost purely a retail holiday now.
18:43.24futrtrublbut "Christmas" only has religious significance to Christians
18:43.42Tainbut Santa is a holiday figure, not a Christian figure.
18:44.15TainIt wasn't the three wise men being pulled by reindeer in a sleigh to the manger.
18:44.54futrtrublSaint Nicholas is a Christian saint. and if Santa is a holiday figuer and not a religious Christian figure then he shouldn't be offending other religions
18:45.08Natasemooooo sounds like a Google adventure to find out the true orgin of Old Saint Nick
18:45.35TainThe origins of Santa Claus are not Christian.
18:46.01futrtrublactually Santa I believe was supposed to be the fourth wise man that decided not to take the journey, later relented and has been handing out gifts to children ever since either as he looks for baby Jesus or as penance
18:47.04Natasemewwwwwwwwww   "The white berries of mistletoe were believed by pagans to represent droplets of the semen of the sun god."
18:47.22futrtrublactually, that might be Saint Nicholas, Santa was a germanic or Nordic figure
18:48.12TainThat's why there's still some shall we say, "romantic" signifigance of mistletoe today. :)
18:48.22futrtrubl;']
18:48.31NatasemThe word "Christmas"itself reveals who married paganism to Christianity.
18:48.32NatasemThe word "Christmas" is a combination of the words "Christ" and "Mass.
18:48.33NatasemThe word "Mass" means death and was coined originally by the Roman Catholic Church, and belongs exclusively to the church of Rome.
18:48.35NatasemThe ritual of the Mass involves the death of Christ, and the distribution of the "Host", a word taken from the Latin word "hostiall" meaning victim!
18:48.37NatasemIn short, Christmas is strictly a Roman Catholic word.
18:48.41TainNot today it isn't.
18:49.13Fanookhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas
18:49.13TainAnd the issue isn't Christmas, it's Santa Claus, who today has no religious signifigance whatsoever.
18:49.23Fanookst nick in germany, sinterklaas from the dutch, got merged over here
18:49.38futrtrublthen why is talking about him a negative religious portrayal, that's what we are arguing ;']
18:49.51TainBecause you said only Christians could be visited by Santa claus.
18:50.00Beladonano one said that
18:50.07Beladonanot even the forum post
18:50.08MoonWolfChristmas can be with some willing should be seen as two different festivities. you have the whole religous part. and the give gifts to people part.
18:50.20Natasemewwww again  "Saint Nicholas is revered by many as the patron saint of seamen"
18:50.29Beladonauhh
18:50.47TainThe forum post did say that. Or imply it strongly.
18:50.47MoonWolf....
18:50.49Fanooksailors, nata, sailors
18:50.53futrtrublsea men, people at sea
18:50.57Natasemo ok
18:51.52TainFirst excluding most other major religions, and then saying, "This is to say that for each Christian household with a good child"
18:53.25futrtrublSanta is pagan, St. Nick is Christian, he is not a figure of other religions, so maybe the post should have included pagans but other religions have no tie to Santa
18:53.44MoonWolfsanta claus, sinterklaas, st nick, noel , saint nicholaas. has nothing to do with the religous part of chirstmas.
18:53.50TainOf course they have a tie to Santa.
18:53.58TainIt's called Sears Roebuck and Co.
18:54.14Fanookdude, i know why santa does his rounds every year
18:54.16FanookIn the United States, the tradition is to leave Santa a glass of milk and cookies; in Britain, he is given sherry and mince pies instead.
18:54.18TainNot to mention Coca Cola.
18:55.09MoonWolfin my country we have sinterklaas who's birthday we celebrate the 6th of december. children get gifts from him.
18:55.20MoonWolfhe comes from spain.
18:55.52futrtrublMoonWolf they do have to do with the religious part, they were included to make the pagan winter solstice a Christian celebration in order to more easily convert the pagans
18:56.22MoonWolfand i will hate the church for doing that the rest of my life.
18:57.06TainIt's good marketing.
18:58.07kremontehrm
18:58.12kremontewhat would be better to do:
18:58.18MoonWolfIts fucking up culture, christianity can be hypocrit and spoil itself by including pagan festivities in itself all it wants , but fucking up other cultures it a crime.
18:58.32kremontestring.find(message, "^%s*[Pp][Aa][Gg][Ee]%s")
18:58.33MoonWolfor it should be a crime.
18:58.48MoonWolfi think all white people should be shot for colonizing America.
18:58.54kremonteor string.find(strlower(message), "page")
18:59.11MoonWolfnote, i am white.
18:59.22TainI didn't colonize anything.
18:59.35TainExcept maybe some fungus.
18:59.56MoonWolfnope, but your great great great great grandfathers/mothers did. and they accidentally whiped out multiple cultures in the progress.
19:00.10TainSo?
19:00.11kremonteanyone?
19:00.39Tainstrlower adds a slight overhead
19:01.00kremontewell, we have quite a few of the [Pp][Aa][Gg][Ee] crud
19:01.18Natasemthere we have Kremonte changeing the topic on us again
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19:01.27TainLooks like the patron saint of IRC has struck down Moonwolf.
19:01.28kremonteyou're talking about colonization of america
19:01.46kremonte"This channel is meant for Dev discussions only. Off-Topic conversation is tolerated but *WILL* be policed if it gets out of hand. Show each other respect, don't spam the bot, and don't bother Slouken about work. Otherwise have fun and relax!"
19:01.46kremonte[ 09:47 ] : Topic written by Beladona on Wed Dec 14 12:06:16 2005
19:01.57Natasemna we were originaly talking about howcome i got banned for posting my santa thing
19:01.59MoonWolfokay okay kremonte have it your way.
19:02.11kremonte..you got banned?
19:02.13kremontewhat the f?
19:02.14Natasemya
19:02.29NatasemNatasem/rant grr i hate Blizzard righ now. BANNED FROM THE FORUMS! You have been banned for the following reason: Negatively portray major religions or religious figures You will be unbanned on 12/22/2005 4:33:47 PM PST all because of this post SANTA CLAUS: An Engineer's Perspective http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-gilneas&t=97315
19:02.38kremonte....
19:02.49Natasemlol
19:02.52Natasemgg blue
19:03.04kremontelol
19:03.18kremontebut you know it's so not racist that the only holiday topic blizzard puts in "WInter's Veil" is santa and christmas
19:03.20MoonWolfsomeone prolly reported you for it.
19:03.48futrtrublthere is a santa/gnome elf/snowman parade happening in IF on Azjol right now ;']
19:03.53MoonWolfguess what happens when they put in lets say.... solstice
19:04.00TainBecause Blizzard didn't say that only Christians could participate.
19:04.12MoonWolfhundreds of chirstians complaining about promoting other religions.
19:07.45kremonteanyone here know patterns?
19:08.03TainHalf-decently
19:08.11kremontehow would i get an optional space
19:09.18Fanookoptional as in 1 or 0? "%s?"
19:09.20Tain%s- will match 0 or more spaces
19:09.36TainOr ? yeah 0 or 1
19:09.51TainThat works better.
19:09.52kremonte0 or 1 or 2 or 3 etc
19:10.01Fanookon another note, and to cheer up the channel, http://usrbinw00t.keenspace.com/d/20041001.html
19:10.18TainIn that case %s*
19:10.35Tain"matches 0 or more repetitions of characters in the class. These repetition items will always match the longest possible sequence"
19:10.48kremontethanks :)
19:11.14kremontewhat does $ at the end of a pattern help?
19:11.43Fanookanchors the pattern at the end of the string, iirc
19:12.07kremontelocal _, _, ReplyInfo = string.find(infoLower, "^<reply>%s*(.*)$")
19:12.13TainYeah so if you want to look for a pattern only at the end of a string, you'd put $ at the end of the pattern match
19:12.22kremonteso that matches "<reply> -> end of string"?
19:12.51TainNo it would only match if "<reply> " was actually the end of the string
19:13.14Fanooki think (.*)$ will match the entire string past <reply>
19:13.24TainOh.  yeah.
19:13.31Tainheh I missed the .* :)
19:13.45kremonteah okay
19:14.07MoonWolfi like that comic
19:14.09MoonWolfbooksmarks
19:14.24Fanookand the $ is actually unnecessary cause .* will match everything anyways
19:15.25Fanookmoonwolf: the comic ended a while ago, but it's still a great read
19:17.53futrtrublcan someone check out my flashing code at http://wow.pastebin.com/466914 and see if it can be made more efficient?
19:19.40Beladonalooking
19:19.46TainEfficiency isn't really my strong point, I'm happy when it works. :)
19:20.04TainThe only efficiencies I know are from hearing people talk about in here over and over again.
19:20.07Beladonayou know I managed to get a single function to flash repeatedly
19:20.23Beladonaon accident mind you
19:20.33futrtrublme too tain, but this is OnUpdate code so I want it to be low impact
19:20.49Fanookjust curious, does "if (not BEB.Flashers[Element])" do a nil check (i can never remember how lua handles if(nil) )? or are you assuming that element's good
19:21.11futrtrublcan you post your stuff Beladona?
19:21.17Beladonayeah
19:22.06futrtrublyes, not var will return true when var is nil or false
19:22.30futrtrublotherwise it will return false
19:23.45futrtrublif (not BEB.Flashers[Element]) would only error if BEB or BEB.Flashers is nil
19:24.32futrtrublie only if the enclosing table doesn't exist
19:25.17Beladonahttp://wow.pastebin.com/466925
19:27.49futrtrublyou might want to Hide() the thing once it's done its flash, otherwise it will keep getting OnUpdate calls
19:28.23futrtrublif you want it to be normally invisible
19:28.24Beladonait isn't getting the update
19:28.30Beladonathe status bar is
19:28.59futrtrublahhh,
19:30.08Fanookthis is for an xp bar, right?
19:30.15Beladonaalso, an update is what triggers it for me. So if I hide it to stop getting update calls, it will never trigger =P
19:30.23Beladonaaye
19:30.50futrtrublwell, as it is, even if the frame isn't set to do its flash it's still doing local alpha = wdnExpBarFrameFlash:GetAlpha(); alpha = alpha - 0.1; if (alpha > 0) then wdnExpBarFrameFlash:SetAlpha(alpha); else wdnExpBarFrameFlash:SetAlpha(0); end
19:30.51Fanookcool, i need to replace the one i've got, doesn't always initialize itself correctly
19:31.05Beladonayeah I know
19:31.16BeladonaI guess I can move the first local
19:31.18futrtrublno Beladona, frames still get events when hidden, they don't get Onupdates when hidden
19:31.29Beladona...........
19:31.52Beladonalet me say it again...
19:31.55Beladonalol
19:32.09Beladonaall the event does is set the frame.flashing value to on
19:32.17Beladonaonce that gets set it triggers the OnUpdate
19:32.23futrtrublthen also have the event Show() it
19:37.33Beladonaso I have to give a texture an OnUpdate script
19:38.38futrtrublahh, all my textures have a parent frame
19:39.13Beladonayeah mine are in a layer within a frame I can't hide
19:39.18futrtrublif you SetAlpha on a frame all children have their alpha changed
19:40.06MoonWolflogical.
19:40.37Beladonathat would be useful if I decide to add the ability to set transparency on the entire bar
19:42.21futrtrublthinking about all this has shown me better ways of doing stuff I currently do...
19:47.06futrtrublthen Beladona check out http://wow.pastebin.com/466954
19:50.56Beladonanot bad, messing with it now
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19:52.53Fanookwell, i need to start packing up my computer to head home. If i dont see you later, enjoy the holidays!
19:53.01TainYou too, Fanook
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21:04.56ElkanoSo you will be able to look at Sulfuras tooltip if you have it in your clients db but you can't link it until you a) confirm that it may dc you or b) have seen or have been told to be known by the server this session
21:04.58kergoth~wb
21:04.59purlthx
21:05.44Elkanosure that all links from getlink are safe to post? I think they are only tooltip safe since your db isn't cleard on server restart
21:06.05kremonteElkano - yes it is
21:06.35kremonteon monday, I had link to full nemesis set, and could link all of them. on tuesday, only 6pc were visible, since they were cleared from cache
21:06.45kremontethe cache is synced with the server (i think)
21:07.19kremonteif you've seen it, it's always in your cache. but, if the server hasn't, it won't return a getiteminfo (i think)
21:07.24Elkanohmm... if that is really the case (I'll try to confirm it with sulfuras eg), I won't need the session cache ^^
21:09.35kremontegrr, all of the JP-enabled fonts i have and can find are TTC files, and WoW doesn't seem to support them
21:12.24Elkanobut it's nice, I had about 300 epic items in the db when I started :)
21:14.51Elkanobut I'm still thinking about how to propagate items between different users. I will use a chat channel and simply post links, but I've to figure out when to post which link to get the best effect...
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21:15.22Guillotinefinally....
21:15.33Guillotinestupid thing was refusing my connection all morning
21:16.01futrtrublhola Guil
21:16.30futrtrublthey've been having trouble with infobots spamming, some servers went down
21:16.57futrtrubl-lilo- [Global Notice] Hi all. We momentarily opened up irc.freenode.net, but as you may have noted, we're still seeing heavy spambot activity. We're reverting again. If you're running an infobot here, or are having trouble connecting, please take a look at http://freenode.net/news.shtml .... thank you for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!
21:18.33Guillotinei know
21:18.41Guillotinebut chat.freenode.net was refusing my connections
21:18.45Guillotineand thats the open one
21:19.35Beladonashould dump purl
21:19.39TainIf it does anything like that again go to freenode.net webpage, there's a link to all of the individual irc servers.
21:19.59GuillotineCairenn: On your post on WoWI you might want to specify for the IRC server, not WoW server
21:21.47Guillotinedid you guys see http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2844 ? thats just hilarious...
21:22.10Guillotinealmost as good as gello's addon
21:22.12Guillotinelol
21:22.26kremontelmao
21:25.09BeladonaI actually had a hunter like that
21:25.12Beladonayesterday
21:25.53Beladonahe kept rolling need on stuff that was obviously shaman / priest
21:30.06CairennBela ... getting closer!
21:30.28Beladonahuh?
21:30.35Cairenn*huge smile*
21:30.41Beladonaoh
21:30.41Cairennthat which is going to rock
21:30.46Beladonacool
21:30.56Cairennchatting with him now :)
21:31.01CairennSO going to rock
21:31.45ElkanoI hope 1.9 comes soon so I can add the textures to the mod :)
21:32.08MoonWolfCairenn, dont you go talk about things that rock without actually telling us.
21:32.20MoonWolfkeep it to pm's then instead of teasing us like that.
21:32.58Cairennah, but teasing keeps the interest level up, so you keep coming back hoping that that which is going to rock is unveiled :)
21:33.11BeladonaI will give you a hint
21:33.15Beladonait will rock
21:33.17Cairennit will rock!
21:33.18Beladona.......
21:33.19CairennROFL
21:33.48MoonWolf....
21:34.10MoonWolfIf whatever it is, img going to make wowguru my primary addon hosting site :P
21:34.24MoonWolfi dropped a whole sentence part there...
21:34.34MoonWolfif whaterever it is does not rock, etc.
21:34.39Cairenn*cries*
21:34.40Beladonatrust me
21:34.46Beladonayou will NOT be dissapointed
21:35.41Beladonaugh
21:35.54Beladonamigrating data so I can set up a dual boot -- wow files are too large
21:36.14ElkanoWoW Client for Linux finnaly?
21:36.21Beladonano
21:36.28Beladonawouldn't that be nice
21:37.09ElkanoIsLinux() - allways returns false <-- still remember me laughtig when they added thisone :)
21:37.21Kiliekhaha
21:37.25Kiliekthere's an IsLinux()?
21:38.07MoonWolfwtf, you are kidding.... RIGHT ?
21:38.55Beladonanever heard of it, but you could always do a dump of it to make sure
21:39.02Beladonadev tools ftw
21:39.07Elkanoat least I think I remember having it read in one of the changelog threads once
21:39.13Kilieki need to setup devtools
21:39.37Cairennwell, given that there *was* originally a Linux client ...
21:40.37futrtrublso what's going to rock?
21:40.38Cairennthey just never carried through on it, much to the disappointment of many
21:40.46Cairennincluding many of their own
21:45.36Elkanohmm.. Beladona, if GetItemInfo is really linksafe, I think I'll go for an X-mas release of a beta version :)
21:45.56Beladonasweet
21:46.46Cairenn:)
21:47.20Elkanothe search interface itself seems to be running fine, item propagation via a chat channel will be put a bit back on my list so there isn't that much work left :)
21:48.20ElkanoBut I still got a few problems with my buildin sell value part (which is also based on the item's id). Price doesn't show up in loot tooltips :/
21:48.38Beladonahmm
21:49.43ElkanoI hooked GameTooltip.SetLootItem, but it doesn't seem to be called downwards to the hook on my system.. maybe it's only a conflict with some other addon
21:55.18ElkanoI was thinking about spliting this part into another addon and supporting multiple addons that return you the sell value, but all the addons I know are based upon namesinstead of ids so ther would be problems with '... of the ...' items :/
21:56.34ElkanoBTW: anyone knows if there is a formular to calculate the best price possible for an item? since the price you get with scanning the vendor is modified by durability and wether the item is soulbound or still 'free'.
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22:01.03Cairennewwwwwwwwww
22:01.05Guillotinek. need help with something in Panda. Is there any way to capture a non-set number of data? E.g. in (hello || hi || hiya) it will catch "hello", "hi", and "hiya" and in (hello || howdy) it will catch "hello" and
22:01.09Guillotine"howdy"
22:01.25Guillotinecairenn: what?
22:01.35Cairenn24 cm of snow since midnight last night
22:03.02Guillotinei was thinking the pattern would be "%((.*)%s*%|%|%s*(.*)%)" but that would only catch 2
22:03.20Guillotineand I could easily make it catch 3
22:03.22Guillotineor 4
22:03.28Guillotinebut I want it to catch however many there is
22:04.28Guillotineanyone have any ideas?
22:05.42Elkanohmmm... for match in string.gfind(text, "[^%(%)%| ]") do ?
22:05.59Elkano... for match in string.gfind(text, "[^%(%)%| ]+") do ...
22:07.11Guillotinethat would look for "(" or ")" or "|" though, wouldn't it?
22:07.17Guillotinewait. that gives me an idea
22:07.24Elkanonotice the small ^ in front of them
22:07.44Guillotinewell that would only apply to the first (
22:07.59Guillotineahh. i see what you mean though
22:08.08Guillotinebut the order is slightly messed up
22:09.02Elkano-> http://lua-users.org/wiki/PatternsTutorial
22:09.29Elkano[^abc] -> neither a nor b nor c
22:10.08Guillotineahhh. I didn't know about that :) I assumed it was the same as when it was outside the brackets (beginning of the string)
22:10.23Elkanobtw: %s is space, isn't it?
22:10.29Guillotineya
22:10.42Guillotinethat will eat up all the spaces
22:10.44Guillotineif there are any
22:10.56Guillotinethe %s* i mean
22:11.10Elkanoah, k, my eyes ;) (.*) is the scope ^^
22:11.57Elkanoso if you know that text holds you ( com1 || com2 || ... ), > for match in string.gfind(text, "[^%(%)%|%s]+") do < should work
22:12.23Elkano(as long as they don't match ()|<space>
22:13.05Guillotineok. but thats just the for. now how do I have an arbitrary number of variables?
22:13.43Guillotinewait... duh. concatinate variable names
22:13.44Elkanowell, this for will iterate over all matches
22:13.45Guillotinehehe
22:13.56Elkanoor use a table
22:15.13Guillotinecan you use string.rep with a pattern?
22:15.29Guillotinepretty sure you can, but...
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22:22.01MoonWolfcairenn clones everywhere
22:22.45KolthOh golly!
22:23.53Guillotinewhats the difference between find and gfind?
22:24.20Cairen2:O!
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22:27.21Elkanoaccording to http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial find returns start, end and match of the first match, gfind returns an itterater for all matches, that might be used in a for loop
22:28.16kremontehuh;
22:28.16kremontePandaUserLevels = {
22:28.16kremonte"admin" = 100,
22:28.20kremonteoh wait
22:28.23kremontei just saw my own problem
22:28.49Elkano["admin"] = 100, <--? :)
22:28.49Guillotinewhat?
22:28.54kremonteyup, Elkano
22:28.55Guillotineah. lol
22:28.56kremonteforgot the []'s
22:29.25kremontebugfixing is my favorite part of coding
22:29.31kremontethings work 1 by 1 :D
22:29.56Guillotinedammit. lua-users.org isn't responding :/
22:30.05TainBugfixing annoys me a lot just because I always find stupid bugs that I shouldn't have made in the first place.
22:30.13Elkanowell, I mostly got to fix forgotten 'then's :)
22:30.24TainFinding and fixing the not-so-obvious stuff is challenging, and fun.
22:30.36Depheriosditto Tain
22:36.08futrtrublI find I always for get the second "=" in if comparisons
22:36.24futrtrublfor get=forget
22:38.01DepheriosI just mess up a lot because I have the crappiest memory in exsistence
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22:42.27TainOh I'm good for forgetting at least one = a session
22:45.43MoonWolfi have a habit of using == for asignments in ifÅ›
22:45.44kremonteanyone ever experience this?:
22:45.50kremontewhen i turn UI off (alt+z) and am shapeshifted
22:45.55kremonteit tries to use abilities from my caster form bar
22:46.09futrtrublfortunately, that's a lua syntax error and gets caught on load, spelling errors for vars are more insidious
22:47.19futrtrublnever tried that kremonte, since stances work the same as shapeshifts I would imagine it does the same for warriors.
22:47.30kremontenot exactly
22:47.33kremontewarriors are always in a stance
22:47.39kremontedruids not quite so
22:48.21Depherioskremonte: wouldn't know.. only used the default bars for a couple days before I had flexbar up and running
22:48.44Depherioswhen my GF wakes up, I'll ask her though, she has 4 different druids XD
22:48.47kremonteflexbar lags me a lot, so i dont use it anymore :(
22:48.57Depheriosdid you turn off all the crap you aren't using?
22:49.08Depherios(the new ones do it automatically)
22:49.19kremontehum?
22:49.31Depheriosthere's a "performance" gui, that lets you turn off all the checks you aren't using
22:49.34kremontei used the newest ver of flexbar, as of 1wk ago
22:49.46Depherioshuh...
22:49.48kremonteduno
22:49.56kremontemeh, im fine with the bars atm
22:50.09kremontebut even so its a UI bug, if it aint just me
22:50.21Depheriosyah
22:50.34Depheriosactually *logs into one of his druids on his blank install*
22:50.57Depherioswell... mostly blank (it has whatever I was last tinkering with XD)
22:51.26Depheriosaww... I have to patch it
22:52.30kremontecant you just disable all addons? =x
22:52.41kremonteand why the heck is your gf sleeping at this time of day
22:53.03Depheriosshe's always napping
22:53.14MoonWolfkremonte, its easyer to keep a pay and a work/test copy of the game.
22:53.34Depherioshuh? -- I just have a second install XD
22:54.14kremontelocal blank, blank, RandomString[incremental] = string.find(word, "[%(%|+]%s*(.*)%s*[%|+%)]");
22:54.17kremonteany idea why that wont work?
22:54.47Depherioslol
22:54.50kremonte(lua says unexpected symbol near [
22:56.51Depherioskremonte: have my problem of always forgetting the closing perenthesis?
22:57.03Beladonahe closed it
22:57.06Depheriosor was that just a slip?
22:57.11Depheriosno, I mean in the line:
22:57.14Depherios(lua says unexpected symbol near [
22:57.23Depheriosnot code, just.... talking XD
22:57.26kremonteDepherios - yes.
22:57.26Beladonalol
22:58.46kremontefor word in string.gfind(Message, "[%(%|+]%s*%a*%s*[%|+%)]") do
22:58.46kremontelocal blank, blank, RandomString[incremental] = string.find(word, "[%(%|+]%s*(.*)%s*[%|+%)]");
22:58.47kremonteend
22:58.47kremontegrr
22:58.48Depheriosanybody know where wow keeps the data of what version it currently is? (i.e. if I just copy patch.mpq and patch-2.mpq will that do the trick? XD
22:58.50kremontewhy wont that work!
22:59.12Beladonano
22:59.20Beladonayou need the executable as well
22:59.26Beladonand possibly some dll files
22:59.29Depheriosahh...
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22:59.43Depherioswell... I'll copy over the mpqs and all the misc in the main folder and see what we get
22:59.44AnduinLotharthat's better
22:59.59kremontenoone has any idea? :(
23:00.59Beladonaare you using [ as something to search for or as a special character?
23:01.11AnduinLotharoh btw cairenn, that post you linked to the guy willing to pay for a coder. I went through a couple emails with him/her. as it turns out he wants an addon to one click spam an entire server through whispers and mails
23:01.18kremontespecial character
23:01.22kremontesplitting the string by ||'s
23:01.33Cairennah. gold seller huh?
23:01.43AnduinLotharhe claimed he didn't want to sell gold, but advertize a site
23:01.50Cairennhope you told him/her to go fuk
23:01.54kremontelol
23:02.01Beladonahim/herself
23:02.03DepheriosI'm assuming so, since he told you about it XD
23:02.18TainYes of course!  Tell him to f-off (How much was he offering?)
23:02.24AnduinLotharI told him, either way no one wants to get spam in wow and that there are plenty of other ways to advertize legally.
23:02.28Cairenn$50, Tain
23:02.35TainPssh
23:02.38Cairennyeah
23:02.42TainHe needs to add a couple zeros on the end of that
23:02.43Beladonahe would get banned post haste
23:02.43Cairenn*nod*
23:02.46BeladonaI would do it
23:02.51Depherioslol
23:02.55AnduinLotharI was tempted to tell him that spammers make millions a year and that i'd make it for $million
23:02.59Beladonayou get the money, he gets banned
23:03.06TainI'd do it for $5k
23:03.13AnduinLotharright, but then the software's also out in public
23:03.24AnduinLotharwhich i do not want
23:03.24Depheriosyeah, nothing says
23:03.27Depherioshis website
23:03.30Depheriosisn't going to SELL
23:03.32Depheriosthat addon XD
23:03.36DepheriosTO gold farmers
23:03.54Depheriospardon me using 5 lines to say that
23:03.57AnduinLotharor anyone for that matter
23:03.58Depherios... 6
23:04.00Beladonanothing says lovin like a spambot!
23:04.03TainOh good point though, once it happens once either someone else will get his code ffrom him (Pay him for it) or someone will make their own to do the same thing.
23:04.05TainOoooh messy.
23:04.16Tainit would be like a virus spreading everywhere.
23:04.19DepheriosI'm surprised they're not already doing it
23:04.25DepheriosEven *I* could make something to do it
23:04.27Depheriosand I SUCK
23:04.29AnduinLothari get 3k spam emails a day. i don't want to have to make a spam filter for wow..
23:04.41TainI'll be right back, I have to go talk to some people at playerauctions.com...
23:04.47Depherioslol
23:04.57Beladonaheh, the first bayesian spam filter for wow
23:05.04Depheriosoi
23:05.27TainOh shoot Beladona.  I make the addon to spam and then charge people for an addon to block it.
23:05.29Beladonasometimes I wish I could make a bayesian spam filter for real life
23:05.41Depherioshave to make it not block things with items attached though :P I send people I like random GOLD! emails with gold attached XD
23:06.02*** join/#wowi-lounge Gryphen (n=gryphon@63-228-96-74.tukw.qwest.net)
23:06.08TainDo you send people, "P3n1s 3nlarger! Guarnteed works!"
23:06.14AnduinLotharthen u could spam with 1bronze attached..
23:06.23Depheriosyeah, precisely Anduin
23:06.32TainI send people stuff cod 1cp.
23:06.37TainReally gets them mad.
23:06.39DepheriosBela: I send people gold when they give me stuff... or if they let me roll on things and stuff, to show I noticed
23:06.45Beladonahaha
23:07.04AnduinLotharyup, buying friends
23:07.06TainAlso because you can't leave it on the pillow when you leave for the night.
23:07.08Beladonabe back ina  sec, need to reboot, my system keep lagging or something
23:07.19Depherioshad a guy randomly give me Prayer of Fortitude II's Codex when I was level 17, so when I had a few G saved up, I gave it to him... never even seen him again, he could have been quitting the game for all I know XD
23:08.31TainCair, I'm a little disappointed. Some of the animals I want to tame you're not allowed to. :(
23:08.34TainIt's not fair.
23:08.50Guillotineholy cow. on my server, we have over 100 people mounted on reindeer in a line
23:08.55*** join/#wowi-lounge cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-51-225.twcny.res.rr.com)
23:08.55Guillotinetaking screenshots for the contest
23:08.58Depherioslol!
23:09.23*** join/#wowi-lounge Beladona (n=Beladona@115-60.124-70.tampabay.res.rr.com)
23:09.23*** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Beladona] by ChanServ
23:09.28Tainby the way, Draka's economy is really completely different from where I came from.
23:09.35Beladonabetter?
23:09.42cladhaireevening all
23:09.45TainToo different to compare.  I'm so confused.
23:09.48Beladonahiya Clad
23:09.55Depheriosit's bad
23:09.56TainFor example, Recipe for Deviate Fish
23:10.02Depherioslow values seem nice, except for you have no money
23:10.19Depheriosbut things low levels need can be overpriced :P
23:10.36Beladonatypical with new servers
23:10.39TainOn the server I was just on before, Stormrage I think, Deviate Fish recipe was rare, sold on the AH for 50-75 gold sometimes.
23:10.43Beladonait will even out over time
23:10.48Depherioslol
23:10.50Depheriosreally?
23:10.54TainSeriously.
23:10.55Depheriosit's 7g on Spinebreaker
23:11.32TainIt's 80sp on Horde side on Kraka
23:11.37TainAnd there were about 8
23:11.41BeladonaKraka!
23:11.44BeladonaHAHAHAHAHA
23:11.50DepheriosROFLMAO
23:11.57TainWhatever the hell server we're on. :)
23:12.03Beladonawhat did you call me?
23:12.07BeladonaKraka!
23:12.15Depherioslol
23:12.37Beladonaits Krakalacken
23:12.47TainNow I have to head to Ironforge and see what it's like there.
23:13.26AnduinLotharif i had any $ id be auctioneering on Draka
23:13.27Eraphineanyone here speak what they speak in denmark?
23:13.32futrtrublAzjol  was fun a few hours ago, about 50 red/green santa gnomes and snowmen on parade ;']
23:13.37TainDenmarkian?
23:13.43Eraphinedanish :)
23:13.52Tainmmm I love a little danish
23:13.59Depheriosmost fun I've had was a huge Red vs Green war... bunch of gnomes in a snowball fight XD
23:14.00AnduinLothari have poptarts
23:14.10Beladona0.o
23:14.14TainI'd love a little danish to bring me pop tarts
23:14.22TainAlthough I do have Brown Sugar and Cinnamon Pop Tarts right now.
23:14.23Depheriosall yelling things like "DEATH TO THE GREENIES"
23:14.26futrtrublA Danish on each ear.... ahh the songs of StarWars, act now and get......
23:14.32TainWhich are of course at the top of the Pop Tarts food chain.
23:14.48AnduinLothars'mores ftw
23:14.57TainI do like s'mores a lot as well
23:15.03Tainthey're in my top 5
23:15.09Cairenndouble chocolate fudge
23:15.16TainI'd probably say number 3 behind Frosted Srawberry.
23:15.34futrtrublwish I had seen that Depherios
23:15.35AnduinLotharnew carmel chocolate are excelent too
23:15.44TainAh, I haven't seen those yet!
23:16.07TainI like the chocolate chocolate chocolate ones for one reason that someone told me to try.  Frozen.  They were fabulous.
23:16.18Depheriosstart one futrtrubl... lol... that's what I did, bunch of gnomes in front of the transformer by the zep tower in org, and I just randomly yelled RED VS GREEN! and started pelting red gnomes
23:16.18AnduinLothari also have some new ciniman roll ones that are pretty decent
23:16.47Cairenncarmel chocolate?
23:16.53AnduinLotharpoptarts
23:16.59AnduinLotharya, really good
23:17.13AnduinLothari'm gonna have to buy more at work today
23:17.30Cairennhi cladhaire :)
23:17.57futrtrublI'll try that Depherios, is it a quest to get transformed?
23:18.17pagefaultI wish I could mount as a snowman
23:18.39AnduinLotharwonder if i save the riendeer holly till expansion comes out if I can use it on a flyign mount..
23:18.49Beladonaoh ok I almost read that wrong pagefault
23:18.56pagefaulthaha
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23:19.08pagefaultso whats on your mind? :P
23:19.15Beladonanot snowmen
23:19.23AnduinLotharheh
23:19.38TainShrinkage
23:19.45AnduinLotharhey. none of that
23:19.47Cairennewww, shrinkage bad!
23:19.54pagefaultthe cold will do that
23:20.06CairennKarl, it's Friday night and I know that at least a couple of us plan on drinking, so  :p
23:20.11BeladonaTain has been awarded the UCD -- Ultimate Conversation Derailment award
23:20.32AnduinLothar? what about poptarts
23:20.54Beladonadip them in rum and lets talk
23:20.58Beladonaoh
23:21.03Cairennwhat about poptarts? I'm sure they'll go just fine with my mudslides
23:21.12TainI'm not dipping my..
23:21.13TainOH.
23:21.26CairennTain: more the loss you :p
23:21.37Tainuh uh no way
23:21.40Beladonanow now Tain, keep your hands to yourself.... oh wait you are
23:21.40AnduinLotharthat reminds me of something i found on deviant art...
23:21.52TainAlcohol burns.
23:22.07AnduinLotharbut i wont link it here
23:22.50Beladonahaving large drives is great, but it seriously sucks when it comes time to defrag them
23:22.57Beladonawhich I am doing atm
23:23.04AnduinLotharget a mac. auto-defragging
23:23.40TainI do use Diskeeper.  Runs continuous defrags when the system is idle.
23:23.49TainAnd then you can schedule a full anytime you want.
23:24.08Beladonayeah I have that on systems at work
23:24.21BeladonaI hate to have services running all the time though
23:24.56TainYeah, I just found that shutting off some of them, like that, didn't make any noticible difference in my free memory.
23:25.17Beladonareally?
23:25.24BeladonaI notice
23:25.33TainI disable things that I absolutely don't use.
23:25.51TainI'd like to call someone at Apple and tell them to stop installing the ipodhelper service.
23:25.53Beladonabut then I tend to be using somewhere around 480mb PF during normal operation at work
23:26.37TainMy memory utilization hoovers between 80-85% while I play WoW, or City of Villains, or whatever.
23:26.40Beladonanot like it matters, I have tons of memory
23:26.52Beladonadownloading dk right now
23:27.08TainI'm actually using up a decent amount of memory with an app to display things on my keyboard LCD.
23:27.17Beladonalol
23:27.18TainBut I decided it was worth it.
23:27.27Beladonayou have that pgotech kb?
23:27.29Beladonaerr
23:27.32Beladonalogitech
23:27.41TainYeah, I picked it up as soon as it went on sale.  I love it.
23:27.51BeladonaI am planning on buying it this month
23:28.09Beladonathe macro keys work pretty well?
23:28.40TainThey do, the macro recording software sorta sucks.  You have to tweak it yourself a fair amount.
23:29.08TainBut the macros will send hardware keypresses.
23:29.15Beladonasweet
23:29.27Beladonadid you pick yours up local?
23:29.36TainTo test it I set one up to do Rogue, SS, delay, SS, delay, SS, longer delay, SS, longer delay... Evis
23:29.48TainI got it local at a Best Buy.
23:29.57Beladonaworks for me
23:30.18TainI of course haven't actually used it to automate things in the game as that would be against the ToS.
23:32.29Kiliekwhat's the name of the keyboard?
23:32.50Beladonahttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2166,CONTENTID=10717
23:32.58BeladonaG15 Gaming Keyboard
23:33.00Kiliekthanks
23:33.05Kiliekwow
23:33.07Kiliekthat fucker is a beast !
23:33.11Beladonayeah
23:33.19Depherioslol
23:33.21Depheriosawesome
23:33.51BeladonaI love the fact that they did the backlighting through the letters and not the whole keys
23:33.52Kiliekhow much?
23:33.58TainThe backlighting is awesome.
23:34.04TainI love it so much now.
23:34.14Kilieki see $80msrp
23:34.17TainI paid $70 US
23:34.21Kiliekok
23:34.26Kilieki think i'll snag it tonight
23:34.28Kiliekit looks dope
23:34.45TainThe LCD doesn't do much right out of the box, right now can't interact with WoW at all.
23:34.49BeladonaI gotta go to bestbuy tomorrow anyway for one last crhistmas gift
23:34.53Eraphineany danes here?
23:34.57Beladonaguess I am getting myself a christmas gift too
23:35.01TainBut I found a couple of LCD software sites that have cool applets you can run.
23:35.15Kiliekkeep us posted tain
23:35.23Kiliekif you find anything super cool
23:35.24Kiliekfor the lcd
23:35.27Kiliekthat looks neat
23:35.43Beladonait is one of those things the dev would need to add to the game
23:35.51Kiliekyeah
23:35.56Beladonaor someone make a third party program / addon to monitor
23:35.56Kiliekand they probably won't in wow
23:36.06Kiliekexternal communication and all
23:36.42Beladona69.95 on NewEgg
23:36.53Kilieki'm thinking something that will show who is talking on teamspeak or vent
23:36.54Kiliekin the lcd
23:37.01Kiliekcoz most people complain they can't tell who is talking
23:37.03Kiliekthat'd be handy
23:37.06Beladonathat would rock
23:37.13BeladonaOOOOOH
23:37.16Beladonapipe irc to it
23:37.19Kiliek!
23:37.20Beladona0.o
23:37.21Kiliek:)
23:37.27Kiliekyou'd never pay attention in game ;)
23:37.31Beladonahaha
23:37.35Depheriosyeah... they make that already for teamspeak
23:37.39Kiliekwow
23:37.43Beladonawould be cool if you could do a keybind that lets you respond too
23:37.44Kilieki'm so owned(
23:37.48Beladonadespite not having focus
23:37.55Kiliekthat would be neat bela
23:38.02Kiliekor something like xfire
23:38.07Kilieki love how xfire will draw on top
23:38.48Cairennlike I pay attention to the game now?  I play in windowed mode so I can see this channel at the same time
23:38.57Beladonahaha
23:39.06Beladonaspeaking of which, I am logging in
23:40.29Cairennbah, wish the roads were better, would go to the city christmas party tonight if for no other reason than to get the fresh hot maple syrup on snow
23:40.31Cairennmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
23:41.04BeladonaI need to make a custom keybindable cast macro that casts ghost wolf
23:41.17Beladonashould be easy
23:41.52Tainthat sounds really tasty
23:42.03Cairennit's amazing, Tain
23:42.25Beladonajust dont eat it if it is yellow
23:42.51Cairennfreshly tapped from the trees, heated, then drizzled over the snow ... *classic* Canadian winter treat, and SO yummy
23:43.25Beladonaice and sugar
23:43.37Beladona2 of the major food groups
23:44.09Tainmm mmm amazing
23:44.30Cairennyeah yeah, I know, none of you get it, since you've never had it, but omg it's good
23:46.33Beladona...... Call of Water absolutely sucks
23:46.38Beladonastupid quest
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23:46.49Guillotinefor word in string.gfind(Message, "[%(%|+]%s*[^%|]%s*[%|+%)]") do
23:46.52Guillotineoops
23:46.57Guillotinefor word in string.gfind(Message, "[%(%|+]%s*[^%|]%s*[%|+%)]") do
23:46.59Guillotinelocal blank, blank, randomstring = string.find(word, "[%(%|+]%s*([^%|])%s*[%|+%)]");
23:47.01GuillotineRandomString[incremental] = randomstring;
23:47.02GuillotineDEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(incremental .. " " .. word);
23:47.04Guillotineincremental = incremental + 1;
23:47.05Guillotineend
23:47.07Guillotineanyone have any idea why its not working?
23:47.10Cairennpastebin ftw
23:47.20Guillotinepastebin is giving a 404 for me at the moment...
23:47.59Cairennworking for me:  http://pastebin.com/
23:48.21Guillotine404 >_<
23:48.30Cairennweird
23:48.34Guillotinei thought it was down...
23:48.41Cairennnope, I just hit it fine
23:48.45Guillotinehmm
23:48.50norganna__those regexps look plain dodgy
23:48.54Cairenntry doing a hard refresh?
23:48.59Guillotinenorganna: how so?
23:49.05Guillotinecairenn: im not even getting it on ping
23:49.21AnduinLotharhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5430343841227974645
23:49.41norganna__well, i'm not sure what you're trying to do, but at least some of those ('s should be escaped i think
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23:49.54Guillotinedoesnt %( escape it?
23:50.25Beladonayou escaping the s as well?
23:50.27norganna__ahh, maybe it does
23:50.47norganna__i usually use the other form of regexps
23:50.58Tain%s is space characters
23:51.22Guillotinetain: i know
23:51.33Guillotinei want it to eat up all space characters
23:51.36norganna__[%(%|+]  do you mean [%(%|]+ ?
23:51.46TainYeah, I was saying it for Beladona
23:51.48kremonte(string1%s*||string2%s*||string...)
23:51.52Guillotineno. only one ( allowed, bu tmultiple | allowed
23:51.52kremonteis what we want
23:51.57Guillotinelike for purl
23:52.00kremonteand to split it into string1, stirng2
23:52.01Guillotine~literal shoot
23:52.03purl"shoot" is "<reply> bang!"
23:52.10Guillotineor not
23:52.11kremonte~literal emulate kergoth
23:52.12purl"emulate kergoth" is "<action> wields a mean polished, spiked cluebat||<action>hacks on bitbake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus, and other projects||<reply>Ooh look, shiny!  Erm, I know I was supposed to be doing something.  I wonder what it was || <action> hmmms. || <reply> $who: Why don't you leave, and come back when you've got some clue?"
23:52.16kremontelike that
23:52.17Guillotineya. like that
23:52.23Guillotinebut ours will be in ()
23:52.35norganna__hmm - then you would want (%(|%|+) wouldn't you?
23:52.51Fanooklua doesnt do or's in sets
23:52.57Fanookat least our version doesnt
23:53.01Guillotineit doesnt?
23:53.06Guillotineyes it does...
23:53.07Fanookdont think so
23:53.10Guillotineits always worked for me before
23:53.16Fanookignore that then
23:53.47Beladonathat regex still looks a lot mroe complicated than it should
23:54.01Guillotineit IS working though, when rather than doing [^%|] I do .*
23:54.06Guillotineit just captures extra strings
23:54.29kremontewish it was as easy as php :(
23:54.34Beladonayeah
23:54.37norganna__I dont think %|+ in a set is valid
23:55.13kremontearray = split(string, "||"); foreach (array) { str_replace("(", "", ")", "");
23:55.14kremonte:(
23:55.30Tain<PROTECTED>
23:55.33Tain<PROTECTED>
23:55.45norganna__but not in a set []
23:56.05Beladonawhy do one or more?
23:56.07Tainer you're right
23:56.09norganna__a set defines a list of characters that will match
23:56.10Beladonawhy not require 2?
23:56.44norganna__so [%(%|+]   means 1 (, |, or + character
23:57.45FanookFrom the lua 5.0 manual: [set] --- represents the class which is the union of all characters in set. All classes %x described above may also be used as components in set. All other characters in set represent themselves.
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23:58.13TainYes but also:
23:58.16Tain"Any punctuation character (even the non magic) can be preceded by a `%´ when used to represent itself in a pattern"
23:58.22norganna__Fanook: so you agreeing or disagreeing with me?
23:58.49norganna__a set is not a pattern
23:58.49Fanookright, but lua doesn't count | as a magic character
23:58.55Fanooknorg: agreeing
23:58.55SP|Sorrenwhat're the chances of the patch coming out next week? :P
23:59.17TainRight, but you can still use %| to represent | if you want to.
23:59.32Cairennslim to nil, given that there's been updates to Test server within the last week and it still isn't frozen
23:59.38Fanookyeah, but it doesnt mean anything different in this context
23:59.39TainRegardless, + IS a magic character and so it's going to interpret that set wrong anyway.
23:59.40norganna__Fanook: "|" is a seperator in a group tho
23:59.41SP|Sorrenits down
23:59.49SP|Sorrentoday it was shut down, this phase of ptr over
23:59.55norganna__(a|b|c)  right?
23:59.57Fanookhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#Patterns

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