irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20051222

`00:09.39`	`Cleft`	`looks like I need to find that site with the globalstring.lua files. Global vars don't help me`
`00:09.58`	`Cide`	`can you accept DCC?`
`00:10.03`	`Cleft`	`yup`
`00:10.28`	`Cide`	`it is rather old however, it might not help you`
`00:10.35`	`Cide`	`like, 5 patches or something, hehe`
`00:10.41`	`Cleft`	`one sec, it's ignore DCCs`
`00:10.48`	`Cleft`	`should be new enough`
`00:10.49`	`Cide`	`let me know when to resend`
`00:11.04`	`Cide`	`5 major patches, so 1.3ish or so`
`00:11.52`	`Cleft`	`there we go`
`00:12.17`	`Beladona`	`the site that used to have them is apparently down`
`00:14.20`	`Tain`	`Just out of curiosity why don't the globals work for what you're doing? Not that they always do, but it's so much easier when you can so you don't have to worry about localizing yourself, or a specific string changing.`
`00:14.44`	`Cleft`	`well, let me set up some pastepin stuff to show you`
`00:16.38`	`Cleft`	`http://wow.pastebin.com/474397 I need to extract the xp and bonus info from a CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_XP_GAIN event`
`00:17.25`	`Cleft`	`and I can't use the global you told me about as a search string`
`00:18.07`	`Beladona`	`heh`
`00:18.36`	`Cleft`	`heh?`
`00:23.58`	`Tain`	`Something in my head is saying there's a simpler way to do it. Let me see if it speaks to me more.`
`00:24.07`	`Beladona`	`can't you do something like (%w+)(%d+)(%w+)`
`00:24.21`	`Beladona`	`not w hang on`
`00:24.31`	`Beladona`	`%a instead of %w`
`00:25.00`	`Tain`	`The game is already sending the info to the global string, it seems like there should be some way to grab the args it's giving.`
`00:25.26`	`Beladona`	`this is for what?`
`00:25.31`	`Beladona`	`xp values?`
`00:25.36`	`Tain`	`Yeah.`
`00:25.51`	`Beladona`	`do they HAVE To be aprsed from chat?`
`00:26.54`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Natasem (n=Natasem@63.197.112.216)`
`00:27.02`	`Beladona`	`I was thinking more along the lines of registering for the PLAYER_XP_UPDATE, and PLAYER_UPDATE_RESTING events`
`00:27.33`	`Natasem`	`this makes me sad it looks like Norganna ideas got stolen again and this person is claiming to be the first to make it http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1473`
`00:28.30`	`Cleft`	`Beladona, those events don't nescesarily come when you gain xp from a mob, and those are the only ocations I want to grab`
`00:29.24`	`Beladona`	`there should be a way`
`00:30.42`	`Tain`	`Well whenever I'm in need of some hints I look at how other addons are doing it. Plenty of exp collecting addons out there.`
`00:33.31`	`Beladona`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:33.52`	`Beladona`	`might return when you finish a quest too`
`00:33.55`	`Beladona`	`worth experimenting with`
`00:34.46`	`Beladona`	`do a flag`
`00:36.56`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge Ratbert_CP (n=KCummins@204.128.192.5)`
`00:39.28`	`Cleft`	`nope, it doesn't fire on quest completion`
`00:39.40`	`Beladona`	`it returns the message though doesn't t`
`00:39.42`	`Beladona`	`it`
`00:39.46`	`Beladona`	`not the number =(`
`00:39.59`	`Cleft`	`Tain, that is how other addons are doing, except less elegently ;']`
`00:40.05`	`Cleft`	`yes, only the message`
`00:40.28`	`Cleft`	`doing it*`
`00:40.34`	`Tain`	`Ah they're all a bunch of hacks!`
`00:40.34`	`Beladona`	`wasn't there a function in 1.9 that let you determine the client?`
`00:40.38`	`Tain`	`:)`
`00:40.45`	`Beladona`	`like enGB`
`00:40.47`	`Beladona`	`etc...`
`00:40.59`	`Cleft`	`Ibelieve so...`
`00:41.23`	`Beladona`	`if you can wait for 1.9, you could do a localization for the search string, and only set the one for the client they use`
`00:41.55`	`Beladona`	`but then you are back to figuring out what the string is from each GlobalStrings`
`00:41.59`	`Beladona`	`=P`
`00:42.46`	`Cleft`	`my own localized search string? that's what I'm going to do now.`
`00:43.12`	`Cleft`	`that's why I needed the localized globalstring.lua files`
`00:43.25`	`Beladona`	`right`
`00:56.04`	`Tain`	`heh which brings you asked for in the first place, Cleft. Sorry for the wild goose chase.`
`01:02.25`	`Cleft`	`no problem. I was hoping you would find an easier way myself`
`01:23.43`	`Cleft`	`what do you think about this new code? http://wow.pastebin.com/474466`
`01:24.14`	`Cleft`	`nt sure the tonumber is nesesary with coersion`
`01:42.36`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Depherios (n=Deph@67.189.88.161)`
`01:50.10`	`Depherios`	`Anybody in here use a Nostromo for WoW?`
`01:50.45`	`Depherios`	`or period I guess`
`01:51.35`	`Cairenn`	`not I Depherios, sorry`
`01:58.06`	`Cairenn`	`night [Matryx]`
`01:59.02`	`Cairenn`	`Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours :)`
`02:12.29`	`pagefault`	`I eat gnomes for breakfast!`
`02:14.01`	`Cairenn`	`3 days to Christmas eve, and he still doesn't know when he's coming home =(`
`02:14.17`	`Cairenn`	`or how`
`02:14.27`	`pagefault`	`:(`
`02:14.39`	`Depherios`	`:P`
`02:15.17`	`pagefault`	`new X is out`
`02:15.18`	`pagefault`	`woohoo`
`02:17.07`	`Cleft`	`I don't either Cair, my gf is frustrated too`
`02:19.05`	`Cairenn`	`may I ask what you do that you are away from home?`
`02:20.01`	`Cleft`	`oops, on with the wrong nick...`
`02:20.13`	`Cairenn`	`ahhhh, hey futrtrubl`
`02:20.20`	`futrtrubl`	`;']`
`02:20.22`	`Cairenn`	`heh, was wondering who clef was`
`02:20.22`	`futrtrubl`	`indeed`
`02:20.59`	`futrtrubl`	`my nick on another irc network`
`02:21.06`	`Cairenn`	`nod`
`02:21.26`	`Cairenn`	`so, I say again, may I ask what you do that causes you to be away from home and not knowing when/how you'll get home?`
`02:24.24`	`Lebannen`	`Uhh. Weird. I'm checking to see if talents are readable, and they are - except for if a player just launched their client. The first load, no talents return any points in them. If I do a console reloadui, all works fine from then on. I'm checking for talents on both ADDON_LOADED and PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, and neither is sufficient on the first load... is there something else I should be using? Is there a talents-change`
`02:24.24`	`Lebannen`	`d event (I couldn't see one)?`
`02:24.39`	`futrtrubl`	`ahh, the loosing of my passport manily ;']`
`02:24.46`	`Cairenn`	`right, duh, I remember now`
`02:24.48`	`Cairenn`	`sorry`
`02:25.05`	`futrtrubl`	`mainly*`
`02:25.09`	`Kolth`	`Passport loss is bad!`
`02:25.10`	`futrtrubl`	`no problem`
`02:25.31`	`futrtrubl`	`yeah, kinda sucks`
`02:30.04`	`Cairenn`	`still not getting any help from the Embassy?`
`02:31.19`	`Beladona`	`well damn`
`02:31.26`	`Cairenn`	`uh oh`
`02:31.28`	`Beladona`	`I got the wow starting movie to play`
`02:31.34`	`Beladona`	`now to get the rest to work`
`02:31.39`	`Cairenn`	`cool`
`02:36.28`	`Kremonte`	`lol, i see the house of my friend in brazil using nasa world wind, this is crazy`
`02:36.47`	`Cairenn`	`huh?`
`02:36.50`	`futrtrubl`	`not from the Embassy handling the State that I am in. I went around them to the NY Embassy I got a very helpful person and I should get the documents I need on Friday, to fly home on X-mass eve`
`02:37.06`	`Cairenn`	`futrtrubl: YAY! good to hear!`
`02:37.35`	`futrtrubl`	`;'] had to change my flight twice for a total of $200 extra dollars`
`02:37.50`	`Cairenn`	`which rather sucks, but at least you're going :)`
`02:37.57`	`futrtrubl`	`exactly`
`02:38.55`	`futrtrubl`	`that's IF I get the documents on Friday. They are being FedExed to me tomorow, so they may get here on time`
`02:39.17`	`Cairenn`	`well, they should, if they are going FedEx express`
`02:39.26`	`Cairenn`	`you are where?`
`02:39.28`	`Cairenn`	`(approx)`
`02:39.37`	`futrtrubl`	`yup. Prescott Arizona`
`02:39.57`	`futrtrubl`	`if I'm away for periods of time it's because I am still packing`
`02:40.11`	`Cairenn`	`shouldn't be a problem, stuff FedEx'd to me from hubby in NY makes it in 1 day, and mine gets to cross international border, so ...`
`02:40.59`	`futrtrubl`	`cool, it's being sent from Wahington DC but same difference`
`02:41.06`	`Cairenn`	`nod`
`02:41.30`	`Cairenn`	`well, (if time allows) be sure to let us know if they arrive in time :)`
`02:42.47`	`Beladona`	`woo, got into the Draka queue`
`02:42.55`	`Cairenn`	`cool Bela`
`02:42.55`	`Beladona`	`not to see if it is actually playable`
`02:42.58`	`Beladona`	`now*`
`02:43.24`	`Beladona`	`likely going to need some patches to make it work fully`
`02:46.40`	`Depherios`	`Getting WoW to run on Linux Bela?`
`02:47.10`	`Beladona`	`pretty darn close`
`02:47.14`	`Depherios`	`heh`
`02:47.22`	`Beladona`	`it crashed when I logged into the world, but I know there are fixes`
`02:47.24`	`Kremonte`	`./cheer bela`
`02:48.34`	`Depherios`	`have to tell me how it works`
`02:51.01`	`Beladona`	`I ran wine in winxp emulation, and they recommend win98`
`02:51.07`	`Beladona`	`so trying that next`
`02:51.19`	`futrtrubl`	`will do Cairenn`
`02:51.26`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Gryphen (n=masked@c-67-183-238-150.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`02:54.24`	`Beladona`	`WOO`
`02:54.26`	`Beladona`	`in the world`
`02:54.51`	`Beladona`	`have that mouse click bug though`
`02:56.44`	`Kremonte`	`Beladona - can't interact with NPCs or items in the world?`
`02:57.55`	`Beladona`	`yes, can't interact`
`02:57.59`	`Beladona`	`there is a patch I need to apply`
`02:58.01`	`Beladona`	`to wine`
`02:58.16`	`Beladona`	`it is actually not wine`
`02:58.19`	`Beladona`	`that causes that`
`02:58.22`	`Beladona`	`it is using opengl`
`02:58.29`	`Beladona`	`you can do the same in windows and get the same bug`
`02:58.36`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`02:58.41`	`Depherios`	`ouch`
`02:59.07`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Kremonte_ (n=help@ool-18bba4ea.dyn.optonline.net)`
`02:59.15`	`Kremonte_`	`grr`
`02:59.25`	`Kremonte_`	`so Beladona, you can't interact with NPCs etc?`
`02:59.29`	`Beladona`	`correct`
`02:59.33`	`Kremonte`	`>_<;`
`02:59.39`	`Kremonte`	`i may go with Gentoo then..hm`
`02:59.44`	`Beladona`	`it isn't gentoo`
`02:59.48`	`Beladona`	`or linux period`
`02:59.52`	`Kremonte`	`huh?`
`02:59.57`	`Depherios`	`opengl`
`02:59.58`	`Beladona`	`run wow.exe with the -opengl switch`
`03:00.02`	`Beladona`	`in windows`
`03:00.03`	`Kremonte`	`oh, then it works eh`
`03:00.04`	`Beladona`	`you get the same issue`
`03:00.10`	`Kremonte`	`ohh`
`03:00.14`	`Beladona`	`its a blizz issue`
`03:00.35`	`Beladona`	`there is a fix that can be done to wine, but it shouldn't be necessary`
`03:01.10`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge zespri (n=andrews@202.180.89.59)`
`03:06.21`	`Kolth`	`Bela, what brand of video card do you have?`
`03:08.04`	`Beladona`	`Nvidia`
`03:08.07`	`Beladona`	`6800`
`03:08.14`	`Beladona`	`Go on the laptop I am running this on`
`03:10.07`	`Kolth`	`ah, dang`
`03:29.40`	`Beladona`	`this has a pretty good writeup for getting it to work with anything other than gentoo`
`03:29.42`	`Beladona`	`https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraftHowto`
`03:33.18`	`Beladona`	`and building wine seems to be a good idea`
`03:36.01`	`Cairenn`	`b4youdie`
`03:36.05`	`Cairenn`	`crap`
`03:36.18`	`Beladona`	`?`
`03:36.23`	`Cairenn`	`nothing :p`
`03:47.06`	`futrtrubl`	`wtf?`
`03:47.33`	`Beladona`	`wdb!`
`03:48.25`	`futrtrubl`	`~wtf wdb`
`03:50.29`	`futrtrubl`	`damn, purl isn't identified with nickserv`
`03:56.36`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge cladhaire (n=jnwhiteh@cpe-24-59-51-225.twcny.res.rr.com)`
`04:00.03`	`Kremonte`	`grrr`
`04:00.08`	`Kremonte`	`my ubuntu install keeps locking up`
`04:00.17`	`Kremonte`	`at loading partitioner at 52%`
`04:03.15`	`Beladona`	`doh`
`04:03.18`	`Gryphen`	`sit ubuntu, sit. good dog`
`04:03.25`	`Beladona`	`I gave up for tonight on wow`
`04:03.26`	`Kremonte`	`ubuntu will not sit ;_;`
`04:03.31`	`Kremonte`	`what happened ,bela?`
`04:03.38`	`Beladona`	`mouse selection and map bug still prevail`
`04:03.47`	`Beladona`	`even after patching`
`04:03.51`	`Kremonte`	`x.x`
`04:04.19`	`Beladona`	`oh well, maybe given time blizz wil sort it out`
`04:04.31`	`Beladona`	`but I doubt it is high on their priority list`
`04:05.00`	`Kremonte`	`Priority: More level 60 raids`
`04:05.05`	`Kremonte`	`Nerf more classes (except Shaman)`
`04:05.14`	`Beladona`	`so now I get to go back to windows`
`04:05.42`	`Beladona`	`and run linux as dual boot or a vm`
`04:05.47`	`Beladona`	`grrr`
`04:06.30`	`Depherios`	`"The Ignore command will now ignore emotes." YAY! THANK GOD~`
`04:06.53`	`Kremonte`	`:(`
`04:06.57`	`Kremonte`	`my macro wont work now!`
`04:07.45`	`Kremonte`	`if((UnitRace("player") == "Undead") and (UnitClass("player") == "Rogue")) then for i = 1,100 do DoEmote("SPIT"); end end`
`04:09.43`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`04:15.02`	`Depherios`	`good point`
`04:57.33`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge AnduinLothar (n=KarlKFI@207.215.249.71)`
`04:58.20`	`AnduinLothar`	`moo`
`04:59.57`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge kremonte (n=root@ool-18bba4ea.dyn.optonline.net)`
`05:00.03`	`kremonte`	`yay irssi`
`05:00.19`	`kremonte`	`i have reason to say that this is the ugliest IRC client in the history of everything`
`05:00.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`05:01.07`	`kremonte`	`time to break my computer installing Gentoo`
`05:03.11`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`05:05.50`	`kremonte`	`yes! already broke it`
`05:12.27`	`futrtrubl`	`Disclaimer: I have no experience doing stuff with strings. Problem: local xp = tonumber(string.gfind(arg1, "dies, you gain (%d+) experience.")) doesn't extract the xp from the message. What am I doing wrong?`
`05:17.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol @ kremonte`
`05:17.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`What'd you do?`
`05:18.09`	`kremonte`	`ScytheBlade1: broke my HD`
`05:18.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`How so?`
`05:18.23`	`kremonte`	`used the wrong filesystem for /root`
`05:18.26`	`ScytheBlade1`	`gfg`
`05:18.43`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Which one did you use?`
`05:18.52`	`kremonte`	`ext2 instead of ext3, no biggie`
`05:18.58`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And actually, use lilo, and you can use any fs you want period`
`05:19.24`	`kremonte`	`i'mgrr`
`05:19.33`	`kremonte`	`hold on, realoading lol`
`05:21.52`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge slouken (n=slouken@68.5.42.243)`
`05:22.12`	`slouken`	`~spam`
`05:22.14`	`purl`	`ACTION sings, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, Wonderfull spam!`
`05:23.24`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Kremonte (n=root@ool-18bba4ea.dyn.optonline.net)`
`05:23.28`	`Kremonte`	`mmmkay.`
`05:23.34`	`Depherios`	`Damn, even fully 3D with WASD myst controls horribly`
`05:23.37`	`Kremonte`	`ctrl+c during fdisk = bad.`
`05:23.44`	`slouken`	`lol`
`05:24.10`	`Depherios`	`lost that bet`
`05:24.37`	`Tain`	`~rlart`
`05:24.54`	`slouken`	`Aha!`
`05:25.01`	`Tain`	`I guess purl's random is about as good as.. well any computer. :)`
`05:25.14`	`slouken`	`I figured out how to stop decursive!`
`05:25.16`	`Tain`	`~rlart`
`05:25.21`	`slouken`	`Thanks purl. :)`
`05:25.47`	`Tain`	`I know how to stop decursive!`
`05:26.01`	`slouken`	`Yes Tain?`
`05:26.02`	`Kremonte`	`slouken: how? =X`
`05:26.13`	`Tain`	`First, you need an army of trained ninja monkeys.`
`05:26.21`	`Kremonte`	`Blizzard is just going to break everything until the only mods are Scrolling Combat Text and AllInOneInventory`
`05:26.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol @ Kremonte`
`05:26.40`	`Tain`	`But I don't use either of those. :(`
`05:26.41`	`slouken`	`Just SCT`
`05:26.50`	`Kremonte`	`okay then. SCT!`
`05:27.14`	`AnduinLothar`	`New toy (for those that missed it) - ChatBar: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4422`
`05:27.17`	`slouken`	`Okay, I'll be good.`
`05:27.26`	`ScytheBlade1`	`You'd better`
`05:27.33`	`Tain`	`No no, there will also be the, "Tem mod"`
`05:27.34`	`ScytheBlade1`	`;)`
`05:27.34`	`Kremonte`	`what's ChatBar do?`
`05:27.46`	`Kremonte`	`i don't want to open up lynx...the hideousness...`
`05:27.58`	`Tain`	`use links!`
`05:28.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`05:28.12`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sticky chat and other semi-useful stuff`
`05:28.12`	`Kremonte`	`fine!`
`05:28.25`	`Tain`	`I already have sticky chat.`
`05:28.30`	`AnduinLothar`	`Button Bar for chat types/channels`
`05:28.31`	`Tain`	`IT comes from eating BBQ chicken at the compute.r`
`05:29.05`	`slouken`	`The Tem mod crashes, darn it`
`05:29.16`	`Ktron`	`mmm sticky chat`
`05:29.17`	`Tain`	`:(`
`05:29.34`	`Cairenn`	`Bah, Tem thinks you don't love him any more, you haven't responded to his latest "I crashed WoW" thread`
`05:29.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hmm k, so, could anyone point me to a page on "how to watch the combat log and extract data"? The wiki isn't being all that helpful`
`05:29.48`	`Tain`	`Oh AnduinLothar, you run WoW on a Mac, correct?`
`05:29.50`	`AnduinLothar`	`speaking of chrashing i have a non-crashing wow error about CLayoutFrame.cpp any idea why that would error?`
`05:30.13`	`AnduinLothar`	`yes tain`
`05:31.11`	`slouken`	`Cair, that's because he didn't actually crash Wow. It crashed all by itself.`
`05:31.12`	`Tain`	`I am mostly Mac illiterate, but I want to put together some manner of automated installer for a mod as well as a SIT archive.`
`05:31.12`	`Kremonte`	`grr, i686 or x86 >_<`
`05:31.13`	`futrtrubl`	`ScytheBlade1, I need that too. I'm having probs extracting xp numbers from the combat chat, but I thinks it's my expressions fault`
`05:31.18`	`slouken`	`Now if he could reproduce it... grin`
`05:31.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`futrtrubl, I just need a way to start doing it :)`
`05:31.33`	`Ktron`	`Is google down?`
`05:31.47`	`Tain`	`If google is down then the world is about to end.`
`05:32.27`	`AnduinLothar`	`tain, do you want it to be mac only?`
`05:32.40`	`Ktron`	`Ho slouken, how's the season treating you?`
`05:33.18`	`Tain`	`Anduin: I have a Windows install exe already as that's what I'm familiar with. So I was figuring on just making two, one Windows, one Mac, and then the archive for anyone who would rather extrat it out themselves.`
`05:33.41`	`Tain`	`I wonder if slouken is on the "naughty" or "nice" list.`
`05:34.01`	`Cairenn`	`slouken is ... nm`
`05:34.02`	`AnduinLothar`	`what'd u write the pc one in?`
`05:34.28`	`Tain`	`I used Nullsoft Installer to package the install.`
`05:35.22`	`AnduinLothar`	`never heard of it`
`05:35.42`	`Tain`	`It's an open source free install packager.`
`05:35.55`	`AnduinLothar`	`if you have a mac availible the apple installer is cake to learn`
`05:36.05`	`Tain`	`I do like cake.`
`05:36.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`AnduinLothar, nsis.sf.net`
`05:36.10`	`Tain`	`But I don't have a mac.`
`05:36.14`	`slouken`	`The season is treating me well. I think Santa has already gotten me lots of treats. I know that because he used my credit card, darn it. :)`
`05:36.14`	`Tain`	`Unless..`
`05:36.19`	`Kremonte`	`grrr`
`05:36.20`	`Tain`	`No, that's not an option.`
`05:36.23`	`slouken`	`What was that, Cair?`
`05:36.37`	`AnduinLothar`	`ah, then you'll need something you can program and convert... like rb or python`
`05:36.48`	`Beladona`	`having fun Kremonte?`
`05:36.52`	`Kremonte`	`how well can i get WoW to work on Ubuntu?`
`05:37.00`	`Kremonte`	`gentoo is being mean`
`05:37.10`	`Beladona`	`I got it running faster than I did on gentoo`
`05:37.11`	`Tain`	`Yeah I got the call from my bank, "Are you aware of the unusally high activity from your account?" "Errr yes unfortunately."`
`05:37.28`	`Kremonte`	`Beladona: i can't even untar the stage tarball`
`05:37.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Kremonte, I can help with gentoo. That said, WoW runs fine under most anything`
`05:37.35`	`Beladona`	`????`
`05:37.36`	`Kremonte`	`i'm getting flooded with errors`
`05:37.40`	`Beladona`	`wtf`
`05:37.47`	`Beladona`	`how did you do it`
`05:37.53`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Installed wine`
`05:37.54`	`Kremonte`	`i can barely read IRC because all my terminals are getting pwned x.x`
`05:37.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ran wow with -opengl`
`05:38.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Tada`
`05:38.07`	`Kremonte`	`o.O`
`05:38.12`	`Kremonte`	`no mouse error?`
`05:38.15`	`Beladona`	`yeah, and it runs Scythe`
`05:38.22`	`Beladona`	`but try clicking an npc`
`05:38.25`	`Beladona`	`or going indoors`
`05:38.30`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Works just fine here`
`05:38.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Gogo gentoo :P`
`05:38.34`	`Kremonte`	`hrm`
`05:38.36`	`Beladona`	`crash, kapow, thank you come again`
`05:38.39`	`Beladona`	`hehe`
`05:38.42`	`Kremonte`	`well, i'd rather use ubuntu then =/`
`05:38.48`	`Tain`	`~today`
`05:38.49`	`purl`	`"This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent)`
`05:38.58`	`Kremonte`	`lol o.O`
`05:39.12`	`Kremonte`	`~sex`
`05:39.13`	`purl`	`updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/`
`05:39.14`	`Beladona`	`gentoo was not nice to me`
`05:39.27`	`Beladona`	`I got all the way through it, and X refused to load`
`05:39.31`	`Kolth`	`uhhhh`
`05:39.33`	`Kremonte`	`yeah, i'm going to go on windows and re-download Ubuntu`
`05:39.40`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Then your xorg.conf isn't setup properly`
`05:39.40`	`Kremonte`	`it may just be that Linux hates me`
`05:39.51`	`Kremonte`	`YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED TO THE XORG`
`05:39.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`05:40.15`	`Beladona`	`hehe`
`05:40.18`	`Kremonte`	`well, I used to have gentoo running fine, but it crapped out`
`05:40.21`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Agreed`
`05:40.21`	`Tain`	`I can't get my illegal WoW server emulator running on linux!`
`05:40.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`..lol`
`05:40.32`	`Beladona`	`~lart Tain`
`05:40.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I've still got the beta linux WoW client binaries around`
`05:40.45`	`Cairenn`	`purl, give Slouken a cookie`
`05:40.46`	`purl`	`ACTION gives Slouken a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.`
`05:40.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`They shipped them with one of the beta pushes`
`05:40.58`	`Beladona`	`heh`
`05:41.18`	`Beladona`	`Scythe, did you compile wine or use the binary?`
`05:41.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Compile`
`05:41.32`	`Beladona`	`yeah same here`
`05:41.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And note, wine, not cedega`
`05:41.42`	`Tain`	`I'm going to try my hand at this sleep stuff.`
`05:41.43`	`slouken`	`Mmm, cookies. I made some tonight.`
`05:41.47`	`Beladona`	`yeah, wine here too`
`05:41.47`	`Tain`	`Goodnight all.`
`05:41.53`	`Beladona`	`I may try again`
`05:41.56`	`Tain`	`slouken, keep up the good work. :)`
`05:41.59`	`Cairenn`	`night Tain, sweet dreams`
`05:42.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Do it, I can help ;)`
`05:42.17`	`Beladona`	`happen to know which version you compiled Scythe?`
`05:42.20`	`Beladona`	`0.9.3?`
`05:42.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`moment`
`05:42.45`	`Depherios`	`Myst 4`
`05:42.47`	`Depherios`	`oop`
`05:42.49`	`Depherios`	`wrong channel`
`05:42.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`20050725-r1`
`05:42.57`	`Beladona`	`k`
`05:43.12`	`Beladona`	`and you made no changes?`
`05:43.18`	`Beladona`	`just default compile?`
`05:43.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yup`
`05:44.02`	`Beladona`	`ALSA or OSS?`
`05:44.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ALSA`
`05:44.09`	`Beladona`	`hmm`
`05:44.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`OSS can suck it`
`05:44.13`	`Beladona`	`so can ALSA`
`05:44.15`	`Beladona`	`hehe`
`05:44.48`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Kremonte (n=help@ool-18bba4ea.dyn.optonline.net)`
`05:44.56`	`Kremonte`	`i can't help but think that maybe it's my HD =/`
`05:45.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hey, curious, what's my hostmask atm?`
`05:45.12`	`Kremonte`	`Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1`
`05:45.14`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Woot`
`05:45.18`	`Beladona`	`yup`
`05:45.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Good, I've got xchat working right then`
`05:45.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ty`
`05:45.45`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Ktron (n=Ktron@24.128.236.179)`
`05:45.50`	`Ktron`	`heh, this is weird`
`05:46.11`	`Beladona`	`hmmm`
`05:46.19`	`Ktron`	`My computer is acting like the internet is down, and yet, irc works`
`05:47.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Okay, question. I need to capture the text in the combat log whenever someone casts Remove Lesser Curse`
`05:48.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`But have no clue just what's needed`
`05:55.36`	`Ktron`	`can anyone check real quick for me whether google is up?`
`05:55.45`	`Cairenn`	`huh?`
`05:55.57`	`Cairenn`	`google.ca is :p`
`05:55.57`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yes, google is up.`
`05:56.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`google.com is up, I should say`
`05:56.26`	`Ktron`	`for some reason, the only site I seem to be able to access is del.icio.us (my homepage)`
`05:56.34`	`Cairenn`	`man, wouldn't that be weird? google (or yahoo or msn or) not being up?`
`05:56.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`You're not using IE, are you?`
`05:56.47`	`Ktron`	`firefox`
`05:56.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That's odd then`
`05:56.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`IE has had issues like that`
`05:57.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`try a ping?`
`05:57.15`	`Ktron`	`profusion I can get too... pinging might be a decent idea`
`05:57.43`	`Ktron`	`oh, I can get to at least one other, made it to profusion...`
`05:58.12`	`Ktron`	`and I think lifehacker... this is weird`
`05:58.36`	`Ktron`	`ping request could not find host www.google.com Please check the name and try again.`
`05:58.41`	`Ktron`	`I'm assuming a dns error?`
`05:58.58`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sounds like it`
`05:59.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`http://64.233.187.99/ try that`
`06:00.26`	`Ktron`	`yep, works`
`06:00.31`	`Ktron`	`damn dns`
`06:00.40`	`Ktron`	`the real question is now, can I fix it?`
`06:01.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Wait on your ISP, or run your own`
`06:02.47`	`Ktron`	`Well, I don't think winXP comes with a dns server, so I guess I'm waiting and hoping that heh, battle.net doesn't require dns`
`06:03.18`	`futrtrubl`	`anyone good with string.gfind? need help with a capture`
`06:03.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`....well, yeah, it does... ;)`
`06:06.35`	`Ktron`	`damn, and so does WoW... hopefully they don't keep it down too long`
`06:06.51`	`ScytheBlade1`	`209.210.176.8`
`06:06.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Try that as a DNS server`
`06:07.35`	`Ktron`	`how do you change your DNS server? sorry, I'd normally look it up`
`06:07.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`XP?`
`06:07.45`	`Ktron`	`yep`
`06:07.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Classic start menu or XP style?`
`06:08.14`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge pagefault (i=pagefaul@pdpc/supporter/active/pagefault) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]`
`06:08.24`	`Ktron`	`I can switch it and get to the other if necessary, using XP style right now, are you sending me to the control panel?`
`06:08.34`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Heh, yes, I am`
`06:08.37`	`futrtrubl`	`can someone please check http://wow.pastebin.com/474466 and tell me what I am doing wrong? xp is'nt being captured, and restedxp too most likely`
`06:08.54`	`Ktron`	`here, let's move off the channel`
`06:12.44`	`Legorol`	`futrtrubl, the problem is with the return args of string.gfind`
`06:13.27`	`Legorol`	`gfind doesn't just simply return the captures`
`06:13.42`	`Legorol`	`it returns an iterator function, because gfind is intended to be used in for loops`
`06:13.50`	`Legorol`	`what you want to use there is string.find instead`
`06:15.37`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge pagefault (i=pagefaul@69.156.39.120) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]`
`06:20.29`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge purl (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)`
`06:20.29`	`*** topic/#wowi-lounge is This channel is for dev discussion only. Be respectful. No spamming the bot, and no bothering Slouken about work. Get along. Have fun.`
`06:23.29`	`Beladona`	`apt-get isn't working for some weird reason`
`06:23.38`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Ktron\|alt (n=Ktron@c-24-128-236-179.hsd1.nh.comcast.net)`
`06:24.54`	`norgs\|homepc`	`Legorol: u around?`
`06:26.38`	`Legorol`	`y`
`06:27.26`	`Legorol`	`not for long though`
`06:29.07`	`norgs\|homepc`	`hi :)`
`06:29.11`	`Legorol`	`hoi`
`06:29.21`	`Beladona`	`ping! pong!`
`06:29.27`	`Legorol`	`i love that game`
`06:29.32`	`Legorol`	`also known as table tennis`
`06:29.32`	`Beladona`	`0.o`
`06:29.35`	`Legorol`	`:D`
`06:29.45`	`norganna`	`I'll PM u`
`06:29.50`	`Legorol`	`you do dat`
`06:30.20`	`futrtrubl`	`thanks legorol, everything works fine now`
`06:30.20`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge krka (i=krka@c80-216-103-22.cm-upc.chello.se)`
`06:31.48`	`Beladona`	`Lego is da man`
`06:32.21`	`Beladona`	`purl, give Legorol a cookie`
`06:32.22`	`purl`	`ACTION gives Legorol a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up.`
`06:32.22`	`Cairenn`	`no`
`06:32.27`	`Beladona`	`?`
`06:32.30`	`Kremonte`	`purl, give Legorol a pie`
`06:32.31`	`purl`	`ACTION gives Legorol a home-baked lemon meringue pie`
`06:32.41`	`Cairenn`	`Dolby is THE man! Lego is a man`
`06:32.47`	`Beladona`	`haha`
`06:32.55`	`Beladona`	`rawr`
`06:33.17`	`Legorol`	`now now, don't fight over me`
`06:33.20`	`Legorol`	`plenty of me to go around`
`06:33.34`	`Legorol`	`"In keeping with Blizzard's aggressive stance against cheating in World of Warcraft, we have permanently closed more than 18,000 accounts over the past three months for participating in activities that violate the game's Terms of Use. "`
`06:33.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yup`
`06:33.42`	`Legorol`	`that's a lot of accounts for 3 months`
`06:34.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`They just lost $270,000 a month for that`
`06:34.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And considering that they just did it, heh`
`06:34.12`	`Legorol`	`200 accounts a day`
`06:34.14`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Says things about their player base ;)`
`06:34.26`	`Beladona`	`also says things about their aggressive stance on cheating`
`06:34.42`	`Beladona`	`~praise Blizzard`
`06:34.44`	`purl`	`All hail Blizzard!`
`06:35.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It's true`
`06:36.39`	`norganna`	`nup - it say blizzard are making a token effort`
`06:36.54`	`Osagasu`	`They are by no means wiping it out though.`
`06:37.01`	`Beladona`	`I have this plugin for trillian that automatically tags words with tooltips that show their wikipedia meaning, its pretty neat`
`06:37.03`	`norganna`	`they don't really want to`
`06:37.30`	`Beladona`	`and it saw Blizzard correctlyt`
`06:37.33`	`Beladona`	`as the game company`
`06:38.12`	`Legorol`	`norganna, 200 accounts a day is more than just a token effort me thinks`
`06:38.22`	`Legorol`	`how many manhours does it take to doublecheck an account for botting?`
`06:38.26`	`Beladona`	`especially mid production on the expansion`
`06:39.15`	`norganna`	`yeah, but it's easy to kill the idiot botter's accounts`
`06:39.23`	`Legorol`	`gd night folks and folkettes`
`06:39.27`	`Osagasu`	`Their GM team and Hack team doesn't have their paws in the XP stuff, I hope.`
`06:39.28`	`norganna`	`nite lego`
`06:39.34`	`Depherios`	`I <3 wikilinks`
`06:39.40`	`Legorol`	`what stuff Osagasu?`
`06:39.47`	`Osagasu`	`the XP content`
`06:39.58`	`Legorol`	`oh expansion pack`
`06:40.06`	`Legorol`	`i don't want no expansion :(`
`06:40.08`	`Legorol`	`anyways, night`
`06:40.16`	`norganna`	`i know people who were hard grinders who got "banned" in that wave of bannings`
`06:40.35`	`norganna`	`if you call a 72 hour suspension a "ban"`
`06:41.05`	`Beladona`	`hmmm`
`06:41.09`	`norganna`	`although they did say "permenantly closed"`
`06:41.15`	`Beladona`	`yeah`
`06:41.45`	`norganna`	`but seriously, i question their accuracy when they can get it wrong`
`06:43.06`	`norganna`	`i've worked in fraud departments before`
`06:43.10`	`Beladona`	`this is the first ban of this scale I have seen`
`06:43.19`	`norganna`	`it's all guessing and statistical analysis`
`06:43.20`	`Beladona`	`likely they have been investigating a specific program for months`
`06:43.34`	`Beladona`	`and was able to finally track it by user`
`06:43.47`	`Beladona`	`it is no coincidence that this is not long after the launcher`
`06:43.58`	`Beladona`	`I doubt the launcher ONLY checks for viruses`
`06:44.23`	`norganna`	`it actually said it checks for "unauthorized third party programs"`
`06:44.27`	`Beladona`	`aye`
`06:44.33`	`Beladona`	`which includes hack programs`
`06:44.59`	`Beladona`	`I wouldn't be surprised if at least a good chunk of those that got banned were due to the launcher scans`
`06:45.44`	`norganna`	`yeah, but i don't think they really tried to get rid of the problem`
`06:45.53`	`norganna`	`just enough to look good`
`06:46.05`	`Depherios`	`yup`
`06:46.38`	`Depherios`	`and enough to scare people`
`06:46.42`	`norganna`	`i bet the farmers are still botting away happily`
`06:47.12`	`norganna`	`and lets face it, that's where the problem in botting lies`
`06:47.12`	`Beladona`	`sure`
`06:47.26`	`Beladona`	`it isn't something that they can just wipe out`
`06:47.29`	`Depherios`	`not going to make it XD I like fishing`
`06:47.30`	`Ktron\|alt`	`losing dns has to be one of the more frustrating problems`
`06:47.32`	`Depherios`	`but yeah :P`
`06:47.38`	`Beladona`	`all they can do is make it harder`
`06:48.15`	`norganna`	`it's actually a catch-22 situation`
`06:48.36`	`norganna`	`because by catching botters, you are actually teaching them how to be smarter.`
`06:48.43`	`Beladona`	`yea`
`06:48.51`	`Beladona`	`and losing money while doing it`
`06:49.17`	`norganna`	`i know from my work in affiliate fraud, they keep coming back smarter, and smarter.`
`06:49.47`	`Depherios`	`they don't want to catch, as much as SCARE`
`06:50.06`	`Depherios`	`they want to scare people into not using hacks for fear they'll get perm-banned, while doing it by banning as few people as possible`
`06:50.51`	`Depherios`	`the same thing the RIAA did to p2p`
`06:51.14`	`Beladona`	`the RIAA is a joke`
`06:51.19`	`Depherios`	`WE know that`
`06:51.22`	`futrtrubl`	`they did? seems like p2p is still booming`
`06:51.22`	`Beladona`	`they only catch casual p2p users`
`06:51.29`	`Beladona`	`mostly women and chicldren`
`06:51.32`	`Depherios`	`but it worked, they really did scare a lot of people into buying their music again`
`06:51.35`	`Depherios`	`yup`
`06:51.50`	`Kolth`	`Beladona, or grandparents of women and children!`
`06:51.54`	`Beladona`	`aye`
`06:52.10`	`Kolth`	`They put my grandpa in prison for six months and I dont' even have a grandpa!`
`06:52.19`	`Beladona`	`someone needs to smack the RIAA with a serious case that just destroys their purpose`
`06:52.27`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`06:52.29`	`Beladona`	`I would love to see them go down`
`06:53.06`	`krka`	`ewww`
`06:53.18`	`krka`	`oh, you meant RIAA, not grandparents`
`06:53.30`	`futrtrubl`	`;']`
`06:53.35`	`Beladona`	`only krka`
`06:53.43`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`06:53.44`	`Beladona`	`~lart krka`
`06:53.52`	`norganna`	`ok, so we're anti-botting, but pro-p2p?`
`06:53.57`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`06:54.27`	`Beladona`	`I see them as 2 different things`
`06:54.37`	`krka`	`p2p isn't the same thing as copyright infringement`
`06:54.37`	`norganna`	`or are we just anti-botting cause we miss out on it?`
`06:54.53`	`Beladona`	`and yeah, I know my ideals are weird. I don't believe in all software being free. Games for instance. I prefer to support the gaming industry`
`06:55.12`	`Beladona`	`but some software companies can do without the extra profits`
`06:55.14`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=matt@adsl-212-53-30.lft.bellsouth.net)`
`06:55.34`	`Beladona`	`although I don't download music`
`06:55.42`	`Beladona`	`just as easy to stream it`
`06:55.48`	`Beladona`	`and buy what you can't live without`
`06:56.25`	`Beladona`	`lol`
`06:56.35`	`Depherios`	`-as +have`
`06:57.14`	`norganna`	`well, just fyi, all my software is either free, or paid for. all my music, i have the original disks for, i pirate tv shows, but only cause we never get them on tv here in australia, and i have written a bot in lua using just a hardware keystroke generator (just for the fun of it, not to actually bot) :)`
`06:57.46`	`Depherios`	`i.e. Jrock, Anime Soundtracks (some, I buy the ones that are easy to find), game soundtracks (you can never find) ... and a few other things... I downloaded Farscape too... but only because they only sell it ways that make it a pain to aquire`
`06:58.17`	`Beladona`	`same here`
`06:58.20`	`Depherios`	`if I ever use it for profit, or gain, I'll buy it then and there`
`06:59.04`	`Beladona`	`I have one system running an unlicensed copy of windows, ot of like 5, the others being licensed`
`06:59.39`	`Depherios`	`oh! I have 3DSMax I think too`
`06:59.42`	`Depherios`	`... I used it... once`
`07:00.01`	`Depherios`	`I dunno if I still have it`
`07:00.24`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`07:01.07`	`Depherios`	`I own a lot of software I think deserves support... Object Desktop and Painter for example`
`07:01.28`	`Ktron\|alt`	`so I don't use photoshop because there's GIMP... I don't use OpenOffice though because I need some of the MS Office features`
`07:01.38`	`Ktron\|alt`	`Object Desktop? bleh`
`07:01.41`	`futrtrubl`	`don't ask me how I did it, but I have a 2 litre bottle of 100% clear ice.`
`07:02.00`	`Depherios`	`heh, I use Object Desktop on my DESKTOP... my gaming/performance machine is clean of it`
`07:02.06`	`Depherios`	`I get sick of the same old windows`
`07:02.13`	`Ktron\|alt`	`I learned how to hack XP to install visual styles without windowblinds ;)`
`07:02.21`	`Ktron\|alt`	`futrtrubl: lol`
`07:02.25`	`Depherios`	`yeah, but windowblinds is so much easier to make skins for`
`07:05.15`	`Ktron`	`I got rid of Windowblinds in favor of just hacking windows, though the Icon Packager program doesn't have any good equivalent`
`07:05.37`	`Depherios`	`eh, I don't change icons anymore`
`07:05.41`	`Ktron`	`Partition Magic I think is the most necessary program I have, and the one I'd be most likely to buy if it wasn't too expensive`
`07:05.45`	`futrtrubl`	`I think the increasing pressure while it froze kept the disolved gasses from coming out of solution`
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`07:06.33`	`Depherios`	`futrtrubl, I had one that was ALMOST clear, I actually cut it out of the bottle, to see it more clearly... was really neat`
`07:07.20`	`futrtrubl`	`it is really neat, never seen it before. and believe me, I've tried to make totally clear ice`
`07:07.56`	`futrtrubl`	`never thought to try pressure beofre, though now I see it it makes sense`
`07:08.56`	`Beladona`	`qtparted ftw`
`07:09.19`	`Ktron`	`Maybe I should go to sleep and hope tomorrow my dns server is up`
`07:09.46`	`Beladona`	`yea I am gonna go sleep too`
`07:09.54`	`Ktron`	`Beladona: unfortunately I couldn't get qtparted working off of my knoppix disc... Oh, I remember, doesn't support ntfs partitions yet`
`07:10.08`	`Bela\|SLEEP`	`the one I use does`
`07:10.14`	`Bela\|SLEEP`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:10.40`	`Bela\|SLEEP`	`ScytheBlade1: will find you tomorrow to help me get wine running wow`
`07:11.44`	`Ktron`	`Bela\|SLEEP: where'd you get your parted?`
`07:12.09`	`Ktron`	`(ie, what distrib?)`
`07:12.15`	`Ktron`	`ah well, I must have missed you`
`07:16.17`	`Ktron\|zzz`	`purl, night`
`07:16.19`	`purl`	`G'night ktron\|zzz, get out of here.`
`07:17.10`	`futrtrubl`	`any strata I should NOT let my users set a frame to?`
`07:17.54`	`Cairenn`	`futrtrubl: stop coding`
`07:18.02`	`Cairenn`	`get ready to go home man!`
`07:18.17`	`Cairenn`	`the bloody mod(s) can wait!`
`07:18.22`	`futrtrubl`	`stopped packing for the night, I need to relax now ;']`
`07:19.08`	`futrtrubl`	`the travel docs aren't going to get here any faster with me worying about them ;']`
`07:19.32`	`Cairenn`	`no, but making sure that you've got everything done that you need to do so that you can actually make use of them ...`
`07:19.54`	`futrtrubl`	`everything is set up, and ready to go`
`07:19.56`	`Cairenn`	`so is this a permanent "move" back home (comment about selling car) or just a vacation or?`
`07:20.41`	`futrtrubl`	`permanent. I hate the desert ;'] I've been boiling pans off water to humidify the house`
`07:20.47`	`futrtrubl`	`of*`
`07:21.09`	`Cairenn`	`nod`
`07:21.19`	`futrtrubl`	`plus I've been going to school abroad since I was 9, so I'm ready to move back home`
`07:21.27`	`Cairenn`	`I'll bet`
`07:22.25`	`futrtrubl`	`that's now... 16 years I have been spending the greater part of each year away from home...`
`07:22.40`	`Cairenn`	`nod`
`07:23.02`	`futrtrubl`	`plus, it's Jamaica ;']`
`07:23.10`	`Cairenn`	`yeah well, bonus`
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`07:32.20`	`futrtrubl`	`WTS 1x[Wang]`
`07:32.43`	`Kolth`	`Isn't the format [Item Link]x# ?`
`07:33.00`	`SP\|Sorren`	`does color work here?`
`07:33.04`	`SP\|Sorren`	`oh cool`
`07:33.15`	`SP\|Sorren`	`shouldnt it be [Wang]? :P`
`07:33.24`	`futrtrubl`	`not sure about the convention on ad formatting`
`07:34.29`	`futrtrubl`	`I'm missing something in your last line SP\|Sorren`
`07:35.30`	`SP\|Sorren`	`?`
`07:35.59`	`futrtrubl`	`did you color your Wang, 'cuz I don't see it...... that sounded wierd`
`07:36.14`	`SP\|Sorren`	`yah its colored lol`
`07:36.38`	`futrtrubl`	`maybe mIRC is stripping control codes...`
`07:37.04`	`Kolth`	`Servers can strip.`
`07:37.42`	`futrtrubl`	`did you see my colored Wang... there I go again ;']`
`07:38.02`	`futrtrubl`	`strip.... heh`
`07:38.25`	`Depherios`	`my wang is purple`
`07:38.27`	`Depherios`	`....`
`07:38.38`	`futrtrubl`	`it's epic`
`07:39.01`	`Depherios`	`epic sounds like a good thing... purple just sounds..... creepy`
`07:39.34`	`Depherios`	`you should be able to use an item like the "Foreman's Blackjack" on other players`
`07:39.47`	`futrtrubl`	`yeah, not as good as my [Wang]`
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`07:43.25`	`Cairenn`	`OMG! NSFW (NOT Safe For Work): http://www.break.com/articles/nudewow.html`
`07:43.45`	`Cairenn`	`O.O`
`07:45.12`	`Kremonte`	`that was out almost half a year ago =X`
`07:45.20`	`Kremonte`	`but it is indeed funny`
`07:45.36`	`Cairenn`	`O.O`
`07:45.49`	`Tem`	`lame`
`07:49.19`	`Depherios`	`Agreed... although I think the song is pretty funny`
`07:50.01`	`Cairenn`	`funny isn't what I'd call the movie, the song is ... different ;)`
`07:50.08`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`07:50.17`	`Cairenn`	`lame is getting closer`
`07:50.28`	`Kremonte`	`anyone on that knows anything about dbc files?`
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`08:26.08`	`Kalroth`	`lala`
`08:28.18`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`yay for drama!`
`08:28.31`	`futrtrubl`	`;']`
`08:28.50`	`futrtrubl`	`anyone know off the top of their head what the highest strata is?`
`08:28.59`	`Depherios`	`tooltip`
`08:29.21`	`futrtrubl`	`damn, was hoping it was FULLSCREEN_DIALOG ;']`
`08:30.05`	`futrtrubl`	`I'll dump them both, one's too high the other is too long`
`08:30.12`	`Depherios`	`lol`
`08:30.40`	`futrtrubl`	`yes, I'm being arbitrary. But I'm the author, so I can be like that ;']`
`08:30.40`	`Depherios`	`Tooltip can't register mouse events yet either... or can it? -- Is that a 1.9 thing? or ... eh... doesn't matter`
`08:31.09`	`futrtrubl`	`thanks, another excuse... ummm, "reason" to leave it out`
`08:31.49`	`Depherios`	`and you don't want things on fullscreen dialog anyway, lol... well not YOU but your end USERS don't want things that high XD`
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`08:33.10`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`wb cair`
`08:33.10`	`futrtrubl`	`;']`
`08:33.40`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`thanks, and good night :)`
`08:34.36`	`futrtrubl`	`I can't find this on the wiki, but the the ones I am using from lowest to highest are BACKGROUND, LOW, MEDIUM, HIGH, DIALOG, FULLSCREEN. That is the correct order?`
`08:35.14`	`futrtrubl`	`oh, and PARENT, but am I right in thinking that's not a strata in itself, just a command to use the parent's strata?`
`08:35.25`	`Depherios`	`not a strata`
`08:35.47`	`futrtrubl`	`cool`
`08:37.48`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`actually, I think FULLSCREEN is probably the highest you ever want to use`
`08:38.17`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`TOOLTIP is technically higher, but I can't think of a reason to have somthing cover a tooltip`
`08:39.14`	`Depherios`	`fullscreen is below fullscreen_dialog, which is below tooltip... but yeah, the last three are pretty much only needed in the circumstances they're called`
`08:43.14`	`futrtrubl`	`worldmap is FULLSCREEN right? I doubt anyone wants their xp bar higher than that ;']`
`08:43.35`	`Depherios`	`doesn't matter, the worldmap hides UIParent`
`08:43.44`	`futrtrubl`	`ahhh`
`08:44.24`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`I /hate/ flame packs`
`08:44.33`	`Depherios`	`?`
`08:45.44`	`futrtrubl`	`hmmm, SetFrameStrata doesn't like PARENT`
`08:45.47`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`2 lava elementals 1flamewalker and 1 flame guard`
`08:46.07`	`Depherios`	`oh... I was thinking flame as in flamewar`
`08:46.23`	`futrtrubl`	`flamenwafer?`
`08:53.14`	`Kolth`	`Flame packs aren't hateable.`
`08:53.19`	`Kolth`	`They drop maddddd cores`
`08:59.14`	`futrtrubl`	`you really asleep Cair?`
`08:59.23`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`yeah well.. I hate them`
`08:59.26`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`because I'm cloth`
`08:59.31`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`cloth doesn't get to use fores`
`08:59.33`	`Tem\|MC\|Trash`	`cores*`
`08:59.55`	`Kolth`	`You don't like Flarecore gear?`
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`09:08.44`	`Tem\|Golemagg`	`I want the flarecore pants`
`09:08.52`	`Kolth`	`"cloth doesn't get to use fores"`
`09:09.24`	`Tem\|Golemagg`	`but we're somewhat new to MC so MTs and melee have priority`
`09:09.36`	`Tem\|Golemagg`	`wow lame`
`09:09.47`	`Tem\|Golemagg`	`MT died and everything went to hell at 3%`
`09:09.56`	`Tem\|Golemagg`	`gayness...`
`09:10.32`	`Tem\|Golemagg`	`and it was hella smooth up to then`
`09:11.08`	id`	`"forst i space out for about an hour"`
`09:11.10`	id`	`~mornings`
`09:11.11`	`purl`	`Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/)`
`09:11.25`	id`	`takes, even`
`09:15.57`	`MatryxWrk`	`.o/`
`09:18.39`	id`	`~emulate Industrial`
`09:18.40`	`purl`	emulate industrial is, like, I suck at lua and rip other peoples code. <id`> o. FOR THE HORDE <id`> I'm a horde nazi
`09:18.59`	id`	`:\|`
`09:20.02`	`Kolth`	`wow`
`09:20.08`	`Kolth`	`~emulate Kolth`
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`09:21.44`	`groll`	`morning`
`09:21.47`	`Kolth`	`Morning!`
`09:21.51`	`Kolth`	`Wait a sec...`
`09:22.16`	id`	`~emulate Industrial`
`09:22.17`	`purl`	emulate industrial is, like, <id`>\o. FOR THE HORDE<id`> I'm a horde nazi
`09:22.27`	id`	`yess! :)`
`09:22.35`	`krka\|work`	`daamn it, i forgot to ignore purl on this computer`
`09:22.41`	id`	`ha ha :-)`
`09:22.54`	`krka\|work`	`can't someone please get rid of it?`
`09:22.58`	`krka\|work`	`completely useless`
`09:23.01`	id`	`no wai!`
`09:23.01`	`krka\|work`	`only adds spam`
`09:23.10`	id`	`~botsnack`
`09:23.10`	`purl`	aw, gee, id`
`09:23.13`	`groll`	`~emulate Groll`
`09:23.20`	`groll`	`hmm ok didnt work :P`
`09:23.38`	`krka\|work`	`otherwise I'll be force to make a bot that replies to purls statements with a ~something`
`09:23.46`	`groll`	`lol do it do it`
`09:23.50`	id`	`purl, emulate groll is <reply>groll like squash tiny gnome, ha ha :-)`
`09:23.51`	`purl`	okay, id`
`09:23.56`	`krka\|work`	`of course, I'd have both bots on ignore`
`09:23.58`	id`	`~emulate Groll`
`09:23.59`	`purl`	`groll like squash tiny gnome, ha ha :-)`
`09:24.04`	id`	`;)`
`09:24.07`	`krka\|work`	`cair would kickban me though`
`09:24.10`	`Kolth`	`Okay, now I hate purl.`
`09:24.13`	`futrtrubl`	`~emulate me`
`09:24.14`	`purl`	`what DOES my name mean anyway? the world may never know`
`09:24.52`	`MatryxWrk`	`futrtrubl: er, future-trouble?`
`09:24.58`	`futrtrubl`	`indeed`
`09:24.59`	`groll`	`omg ur so gonna get bashed for that one id!`
`09:25.03`	`MatryxWrk`	`\o/`
`09:25.26`	`futrtrubl`	`congratulations MatryxWrk, you win a cookie`
`09:25.33`	`MatryxWrk`	`:9`
`09:25.37`	`futrtrubl`	`~give MatryxWrk a cookie`
`09:25.38`	`purl`	`ACTION gives MatryxWrk a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up.`
`09:26.32`	`MoonWolf`	`nerf cookies`
`09:26.39`	`futrtrubl`	`well, I'm off to bed now that BEB 0.84 is ready to release ;']`
`09:27.18`	`groll`	`purl, emulate industrial is <reply>Industrial has a poor musictaste and would rather spend his day listening to farting Taurens wrapped in plastic than..oh gee never mind..`
`09:27.19`	`purl`	`...but emulate industrial is already something else...`
`09:27.29`	`groll`	`~emulate industrial`
`09:27.31`	`purl`	somebody said emulate industrial was <id`>\o. FOR THE HORDE<id`> I'm a horde nazi
`09:27.34`	`groll`	`baaaah`
`09:27.38`	`groll`	`:P`
`09:28.41`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`btw, yes, yes I would, krka\|work`
`09:28.52`	`groll`	`lol morning Cairenn\|sleep :D`
`09:29.06`	`groll`	`or hmm wtf.. it's like laaate over there`
`09:29.09`	`krka\|work`	`go back to sleep!`
`09:29.10`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`not morning yet, I haven't slept yet, thus it can't be morning`
`09:29.24`	`groll`	`ya so go sleep! :D`
`09:29.25`	`krka\|work`	`can't you please get rid of purl though cair?`
`09:29.29`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`it's ... 4:30am`
`09:29.30`	`krka\|work`	`pretty please?`
`09:29.42`	`MoonWolf`	`more talking on irc is done with sleeping people then wakingo ones.`
`09:29.54`	`MoonWolf`	`s/wakingo/waking`
`09:29.57`	`krka\|work`	`wakingo... is that some african tribe or something?`
`09:30.07`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`most of the time it isn't that bad, since most people have the courtesy to only play with him when the channel is dead anyway`
`09:30.19`	`groll`	`krka it's just because it says silly things about you you want it gone :D`
`09:30.25`	`krka\|work`	`it does?`
`09:30.32`	`groll`	`ok ok it will :D`
`09:30.37`	`krka\|work`	`i haven't ever seen it write anything about me actually`
`09:30.54`	`MoonWolf`	`~emulate krka`
`09:30.56`	`purl`	`ACTION has no idea how to use krka...`
`09:31.07`	`futr-sleep`	`;']`
`09:31.22`	`krka\|work`	`this is why it's good to have it on ignore`
`09:31.37`	`groll`	`lol`
`09:31.39`	id`	`~emulate Industrial`
`09:31.41`	`purl`	well, emulate industrial is <id`>\o. FOR THE HORDE<id`> I'm a horde nazi
`09:31.48`	id`	`^____________^`
`09:31.55`	id`	`right, work time`
`09:33.26`	`krka\|work`	`~emulate krka`
`09:33.28`	`purl`	`ACTION has no idea how to use krka...`
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`10:27.59`	`Cairenn\|sleep`	`okay, off to see the kiddo out the door to school then sleep time for me, see folks in a few hours`
`10:28.20`	`MatryxWrk`	`.o/`
`10:29.08`	`Kolth`	`cyas Cair`
`10:29.22`	`Kolth`	`MatryxWrk: .o/ Isn't a valid salutation, please try again!`
`10:29.41`	`MatryxWrk`	`Kolth: it's a stick man waving`
`10:29.51`	`MatryxWrk`	`or at least, the top half`
`10:38.06`	`Kalroth`	`\o/`
`10:38.21`	`MatryxWrk`	`indeed`
`10:38.31`	`Kalroth`	`________}\_____\o/____`
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`11:17.59`	`Cide`	`hm, is there a lua function to search a string for a substring, without having to use the "regexp" engine?`
`11:19.56`	`oxman`	`string.find ?`
`11:20.12`	`Cide`	`which uses the "regexp" engine`
`11:20.28`	`oxman`	`Why you want that ?`
`11:20.34`	`oxman`	`string.find is the more easy way`
`11:20.37`	`MatryxWrk`	`cide - there is`
`11:20.42`	`Cide`	`easier, but probably not the fastest way`
`11:20.46`	`MatryxWrk`	`just a substr match?`
`11:20.51`	`MatryxWrk`	`no pattern matching?`
`11:20.52`	`oxman`	`substr = string.find`
`11:20.53`	`oxman`	`:)`
`11:20.56`	`Cide`	`ya, with no fancy matchhes`
`11:21.05`	`MatryxWrk`	`gimme a sec`
`11:21.34`	`MatryxWrk`	`string.find(string,phrase,0,true)`
`11:21.36`	`Cide`	`oxman: that uses lua's pattern matching engine, which would lead me to believe it is slower than a straight pattern match`
`11:21.39`	`MatryxWrk`	`that turns off the fancy matching`
`11:21.40`	`oxman`	`string.find("Hello Lua user", "%su", 1, true) -- turn on plain searches, now not found`
`11:21.47`	`oxman`	`true = no regex engine`
`11:21.47`	`oxman`	`:)`
`11:21.48`	`MatryxWrk`	`er, 1,true even`
`11:21.54`	`Cide`	`oh, I never knew about that argument. sweet, thanks :)`
`11:21.59`	`MatryxWrk`	`http://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html#5.3`
`11:22.04`	`oxman`	`I have just read wowwiki ;)`
`11:22.08`	`oxman`	`http://www.wowwiki.com/API_strfind`
`11:22.51`	`Cide`	`thanks guys, I'm a newb`
`11:24.54`	`oxman`	`me too ;)`
`11:32.27`	`Kolth`	`hah @ Cide`
`11:32.29`	`Kolth`	`CTRA ftw`
`11:32.50`	`Cide`	`:)`
`11:34.12`	`oxman`	`CTRA sux`
`11:34.13`	`oxman`	`:p`
`11:35.36`	`Cide`	`ctra is for newbs`
`11:37.43`	`Kolth`	`It's unfortunate that CTRA improves the game so much :(`
`11:37.52`	`Kolth`	`What would I do w/o the Ragnaros knockback timer?`
`11:38.08`	`Depherios`	`make one`
`11:38.14`	`Depherios`	`^)^`
`11:41.06`	`oxman`	`count in your head`
`11:41.07`	`oxman`	`;p`
`11:41.22`	`oxman`	`that's the challenge :]`
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`12:17.58`	`wowguru-8669`	`dose anyone know the webcite for the funny WoW movies plz?`
`12:18.30`	`MoonWolf`	`www.warcraftmovies.com`
`12:18.55`	`wowguru-8669`	`is that the one where they have been made by the gamers?`
`12:19.19`	`MoonWolf`	`go there and find out yourself`
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`12:22.12`	`wowguru-6012`	`nahh that aint it that just brung up gamefuroms`
`12:22.58`	`Kolth`	`http://www.mmotheathre.com`
`12:23.09`	`wowguru-6012`	`ok cheers i will try it`
`12:23.25`	`Kolth`	`It's by the same guy that did WoWGuru :)`
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`12:25.59`	`wowguru-2653`	`nope still not it brung somthink different m8t dont worrie i will find it sooner or laters`
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`12:37.01`	`Kolth`	`Oops for misspellings.`
`12:46.03`	`groll`	id` http://www.ebm-radio.de ftw :P
`12:49.55`	id`	`im more an industrial/noise fan :<`
`12:50.02`	id`	`the hard stuff \o/`
`12:50.22`	id`	`s/d/d$er$/`
`12:55.05`	`MatryxWrk`	`meh - ebm :P`
`12:55.24`	`MatryxWrk`	`"Electro Bouncy Music" ;) - note: not real definition`
`12:56.39`	id`	`ha ha :D`
`13:13.24`	`groll`	`lmao!!! what a scam i just got handed hahaha`
`13:13.43`	`groll`	`phone rings bla bla woohoo you won a trip to the us and bahamas`
`13:13.49`	`Kolth`	`WOW`
`13:13.51`	`Kolth`	`ONCGRATS`
`13:13.54`	`groll`	`press 9 to be connected to an operator`
`13:14.11`	`groll`	`bla bla bla bla bla bla trip bla bla nice hotel bla bla bla disneyland bla bla bka`
`13:14.27`	`groll`	`trip will only cost you 800 euros instead of 1400 bla bla`
`13:14.30`	`groll`	`looool`
`13:14.57`	`Kolth`	`WowzA!`
`13:14.57`	`groll`	`and they wanted me to pay now :P`
`13:15.05`	`groll`	`nice winnings :P it cost me 800 euros haha`
`13:15.15`	`Kolth`	`You mega missed out.`
`13:15.34`	`groll`	`um not really or what the heck u mean? :P`
`13:15.57`	`Kolth`	`ONLY 800 EUROS`
`13:16.00`	`groll`	`lol`
`13:37.47`	id`	`Overdose infusion, comatose diffusion! Overdose illusion, comatose delusion!`
`13:37.53`	id`	`gotta love this music`
`13:41.08`	`MoonWolf`	id`, wtf are you listening too.
`13:41.15`	`MoonWolf`	`go listen to this.`
`13:41.20`	`MoonWolf`	`http://www.youtube.com//player.swf?video_id=yJQdMBG9ZeY&l=203`
`13:42.05`	id`	`resist, resisttt!!`
`13:42.11`	id`	`X_X`
`13:42.25`	id`	`x\|~`
`13:42.41`	`MoonWolf`	`you cannot resist the evil Jpop`
`13:43.32`	id`	`my god moonwolf`
`13:43.44`	id`	`the goggles, they do nothing`
`13:43.49`	`MoonWolf`	`indeed`
`13:45.30`	id`	`wouldnt mind finding the chicks in my bed when i get home from work though`
`13:46.46`	`MoonWolf`	`you and me both, although i would prefer them also learning english/dutch first.`
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`13:48.13`	id`	`To moan is a multilingual concept, i dont mind.`
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`13:49.35`	`MoonWolf`	`mom i found 4 japanese girls in my bed, can i keep them ?`
`13:50.39`	`Kalroth`	`Sure son, but make sure to share with dad`
`13:50.54`	`MoonWolf`	`hahaa`
`13:52.20`	id`	`stap them up tight, you dont want those limbs flying all over the place`
`13:58.25`	`MoonWolf`	`turns out`
`13:58.27`	`MoonWolf`	`its a love song`
`13:58.28`	`MoonWolf`	`http://www.animelyrics.com/jpop/dream/nightoffire.htm`
`14:25.18`	`Codayus`	`Hmm, was DM East changed in 1.8.4? Anyone know?`
`14:27.15`	`Beladona`	`if it was, it wasn't announced`
`14:31.24`	`Codayus`	`Nope, worked this time.`
`14:31.39`	`Codayus`	`Jumped down, and then got wiped by a wave of demons and trees.`
`14:31.49`	`Codayus`	`Tried it again, and we just left combat...`
`14:31.51`	`Codayus`	`<shrug>`
`14:32.09`	`Codayus`	`Was wondering if they'd nerfed speed runs again`
`15:09.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Beladona, re: [00:10] <Bela\|SLEEP> ScytheBlade1: will find you tomorrow to help me get wine running wow`
`15:09.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Sure`
`15:13.41`	`groll`	id` that was wumpscut right<?
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`15:19.32`	`Kaelten`	`Hi All!`
`15:19.56`	`Kolth`	`Heyas1`
`15:20.00`	`Kolth`	`-1+!`
`15:36.17`	`Beladona`	`doh`
`15:36.50`	`Beladona`	`hey Scythe, I got wine compiled, and used default settings, but still not getting world interaction`
`15:36.58`	`ScytheBlade1`	`mmkay`
`15:37.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`How are you starting wow?`
`15:37.15`	`Kolth`	`Bela: One of my guildies runs WoW on Linux. Maybe I'll have to bug him.`
`15:37.18`	`Beladona`	`wine wow.exe -opengl`
`15:37.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`real quick, what's the default value of realmlist.wtf?`
`15:37.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`and what distro?`
`15:37.56`	`MoonWolf`	`depends on where you are.`
`15:38.05`	`ScytheBlade1`	`US, heh`
`15:38.08`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Good point`
`15:38.14`	`MoonWolf`	`then i do not know.`
`15:38.25`	`Beladona`	`us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com`
`15:38.27`	`Cide`	`set realmlist us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com`
`15:38.28`	`Beladona`	`(example)`
`15:38.39`	`Beladona`	`my distro is ubuntu`
`15:38.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`There we are`
`15:38.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ty`
`15:38.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ah, ubuntu`
`15:39.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Gentoo pushes newer CVS versions of wine every so often`
`15:39.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`+ many many patches`
`15:39.14`	`Beladona`	`yeah`
`15:39.22`	`Beladona`	`I got the latest wine release`
`15:39.25`	`Beladona`	`build`
`15:39.28`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hmm`
`15:39.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Lemme see if I have the patches around`
`15:39.39`	`Beladona`	`they also have an ubuntu specific one`
`15:39.41`	`Beladona`	`that I tried`
`15:40.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I don't have them around still, one sec as I grab them all`
`15:41.46`	`Beladona`	`ALSA did seem to work better this time around though`
`15:43.03`	`Beladona`	`and before you ask, I am using the nvidia-glx`
`15:43.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`nvidia-glx? That the ubuntu packages NV drivers?`
`15:44.18`	`Beladona`	`no`
`15:44.21`	`Beladona`	`it is nvidia`
`15:44.24`	`Beladona`	`official`
`15:44.42`	`Beladona`	`but it is a package located on the ubuntu repository`
`15:46.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`*packaged`
`15:46.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`k`
`15:47.14`	`Beladona`	`it seems to be an opengl issue more than linux`
`15:47.28`	`Beladona`	`and there is supposed to be a patch that fixes it`
`15:47.30`	`Beladona`	`but`
`15:47.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Okay, I declare that's whack`
`15:48.00`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Nothing has changed, it was working perfectly`
`15:48.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Now it isn't`
`15:49.06`	`groll`	`hmm doh Beladona help me come up with a good domain for a guild called amnesia`
`15:49.15`	`groll`	`amnesia.com is taken ofcourse :p`
`15:49.15`	`MoonWolf`	`amnesia.org`
`15:49.20`	`MoonWolf`	`amnesia.xxx`
`15:49.23`	`Beladona`	`or amnesia-guild`
`15:49.43`	`Kolth`	`amnesia-wow`
`15:49.44`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol @ amnesia.xxx`
`15:49.48`	`Beladona`	`could try without the - if you wanted`
`15:49.56`	`Tain`	`I thought I had amnesia.org, but I forgot.`
`15:50.06`	`Beladona`	`I wouldn't do -wow, because if you ever end up going to another game, you might want to reuse the domain`
`15:50.19`	`Kolth`	`True.`
`15:50.39`	`Kolth`	`Oo, oo... Do a-m-n-e-s-a.org`
`15:50.48`	`Kolth`	`a-m-n-e-s-i-a.org`
`15:50.50`	`groll`	`haha`
`15:50.58`	`groll`	`amnesia.cc?`
`15:51.21`	`groll`	`gah 19.95 a year no thanks :p`
`15:51.34`	`Beladona`	`lol`
`15:51.43`	`groll`	`org taken :(`
`15:51.58`	`Beladona`	`I do 12.95 at dnsexit.com and get full control over the dns pointers`
`15:52.04`	`Beladona`	`but then I host it myself so`
`15:52.54`	`Beladona`	`not working Scythe?`
`15:53.32`	`Beladona`	`mine crashes when I go inside a guilding too`
`15:53.35`	`Beladona`	`see if that happens to you`
`15:53.41`	`Beladona`	`building*`
`15:58.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That doesn't happen to me`
`15:58.19`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Thankfully`
`15:58.34`	`Beladona`	`I think I need to get the latest cvs`
`15:58.39`	`Beladona`	`where do you pull yours from?`
`15:58.42`	`groll`	`hmm amnesiaguild.com?`
`15:58.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Gentoo repository`
`15:59.09`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Want me to tar.bz2 the sources it pulls + patches applied?`
`15:59.23`	`Beladona`	`nah`
`15:59.45`	`Beladona`	`says online that the latest wine cvs supposedly has the patches by default now`
`15:59.54`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Which patches?`
`15:59.56`	`Beladona`	`just gotta find the cvs, and get it`
`16:00.02`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Gentoo ships several outside of the WINE tree`
`16:00.11`	`Beladona`	`the opengl patch that is supposed to fix the targetting bug, and the minimap bug`
`16:00.33`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I've never had the minimap bug, nor the "enter building = doom" bug`
`16:00.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And it seems like just now the targeting bug hit... :/`
`16:01.34`	`Beladona`	`the entering building bug involves the minimap`
`16:01.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ah`
`16:01.41`	`Beladona`	`when it switches to an indoor map`
`16:02.09`	`Beladona`	`supposedly you can prevent it by hiding your minimap`
`16:02.16`	`Beladona`	`not that I want to do that`
`16:02.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yeah, that's mildly retarded`
`16:04.07`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge lolpatrol\|Kay (n=simop@ti211310a081-2849.bb.online.no)`
`16:05.40`	`norganna`	`Beladona: cedega didn't work?`
`16:05.49`	`Beladona`	`couldn't get it running`
`16:05.51`	id`	<groll> id` that was wumpscut right<?
`16:05.59`	id`	`no combichrist`
`16:06.02`	`Beladona`	`may try again shortly though, that was a distro ago`
`16:06.15`	id`	`hey Beladona, tried arch?`
`16:07.28`	`MoonWolf`	id`, is alway's pushing arch
`16:07.45`	`Beladona`	`no`
`16:07.47`	`norganna`	`Beladona: want a .deb of it?`
`16:07.48`	`Beladona`	`I am happy with ubuntu`
`16:07.57`	`Beladona`	`that would help norg`
`16:08.39`	`End`	`interesting, newegg lists the WoW expansion`
`16:09.00`	`End`	`listed as out of stock, no eta, $36.90`
`16:09.07`	`End`	`http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832127115`
`16:09.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Huh`
`16:09.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`That's the kinda thing you purchase now, so when the price skyrockets..`
`16:12.42`	`groll`	`http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/ashbringer-id13262/`
`16:12.51`	`groll`	`WWTF!! O_o`
`16:13.19`	`norganna`	`Beladona: i put it in http://norganna.org/cedega/`
`16:13.22`	`MoonWolf`	`Scarlet High Lord <- more scarlet crusade ?`
`16:13.35`	`Beladona`	`thanks norg`
`16:13.56`	`End`	`Ashbringer has been "around" for a while`
`16:14.40`	`groll`	`End it has? never even heard of it`
`16:14.57`	id`	<MoonWolf> id`, is alway's pushing arch
`16:14.58`	id`	`yep`
`16:14.59`	id`	`:p`
`16:15.05`	id`	`and sorry =(`
`16:15.07`	`End`	`yeah. I'm not sure if you can actually acquire it yet though.`
`16:15.17`	id`	`bbl goin home`
`16:16.01`	`groll`	`hmm 45$ for a nice domain and webhosting for a year sounds quite nice :D`
`16:16.11`	`digix`	`ive been trying to find info on Ashbringer for months since i first saw it and have found nothing but more of the same`
`16:16.11`	`ScytheBlade1`	`The Ashbringer is another Legendary that no one can touch quite yet.`
`16:16.54`	`digix`	`so far, everything centers around killing Nefarion and then talking to the elf prince guy in CM`
`16:16.58`	`digix`	`err, DM*`
`16:18.39`	`Kolth`	`The Ashbringer was around in beta.`
`16:18.46`	`Kolth`	`They just didn't implement it.`
`16:19.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ah`
`16:19.14`	`Beladona`	`norganna: I need to apply the 5.0.3 patch ?`
`16:19.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Hence why my brother refers to it now as a 'GM Weapon' ;)`
`16:20.16`	`End`	`....druid piece? http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/band-of-unending-life-id21408/`
`16:20.25`	`digix`	`Kolth: so it was in beta, but then removedd? and the data is just left in the game files?`
`16:20.26`	`Kolth`	`Nah, Hunter weapon.`
`16:20.32`	`End`	`I wouldn't have thought so until I read the set bonus`
`16:20.38`	`Kolth`	`digix: Never removed.`
`16:20.58`	`norganna`	`Beladona: i think you do it once you install cedega`
`16:21.12`	`digix`	`ahhh, so they just havent put a quest line in for it?`
`16:21.18`	`Kolth`	`Yeah.`
`16:21.28`	`Kolth`	`And they probably haven't really finished the graphics.`
`16:21.33`	`norganna`	`it says: "The manual update for Cedega 5.0.3. Download this package and install using TransGaming -> Install Local Update. Released Dec 16 2005"`
`16:21.37`	`Beladona`	`the Draka economy suck atm. I got my leatherworking up to 150 or so last night, and am stuck until I can get some stuff that either drops randomly, or is rarely sold in the AH`
`16:21.47`	`Tain`	`Draka economy does suck. :)`
`16:22.17`	`Tain`	`And you can tell it sucks because there aren't even any of the big gold sellers listing Draka yet!`
`16:22.25`	`Beladona`	`lol`
`16:23.10`	`Beladona`	`I put something like 20 leather items up for auction, hopefully most of them sold today`
`16:24.10`	`Beladona`	`I got a blue leather belt on a drop the other day, and priced it at 2g buyout. It sold in less than 2 minutes`
`16:24.59`	`Tain`	`Yeah most blue stuff seems to sell pretty good.`
`16:25.03`	`Kolth`	`Blues go for 100g and up!`
`16:25.06`	`Kolth`	`No matter how cruddy it is!`
`16:25.12`	`MoonWolf`	`blue is instant buy for some people`
`16:25.14`	`Kolth`	`Farmer Rule #20037`
`16:25.14`	`MoonWolf`	`i care not.`
`16:25.20`	`Tain`	`Yeh it is.`
`16:25.41`	`Tain`	`Ok, why would something work fine after reloadui but not on initial login?`
`16:30.35`	`Kolth`	`What is it that's not working?`
`16:30.40`	`Beladona`	`I usually work after a good reloadui`
`16:30.44`	`Beladona`	`....`
`16:33.04`	`Tain`	`Trying to help someone, he's grabbing the "note" for guildmembers.`
`16:33.32`	`Kolth`	`And not waiting for PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD?`
`16:33.44`	`Kolth`	`Maybe that info doesn't come until GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE`
`16:33.49`	`Kolth`	`or whatever the event is`
`16:34.02`	`Tain`	`Already set for PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD (checked that first)`
`16:34.11`	`Tain`	`It works fine after a reloadui, but doesn't work on initial login.`
`16:34.17`	`Tain`	`Doesn't make sense to me.`
`16:34.53`	`Kolth`	`Guild info only updates if the panel is showing`
`16:35.52`	`Tain`	`But if that's the case why can you get it after reloadui without opening the panel?`
`16:36.08`	`Kolth`	`Did he (or you) check the guild tab after login?`
`16:36.46`	`Beladona`	`norganna, is there a way to install wow under cedega without installing from the cdroms? I have a directory ready to go`
`16:40.35`	`Tain`	`Ah well, I'll take a look again later.`
`16:41.42`	`End`	`Beladona: You can probably just copy the WoW directory I think...registry entries don't really matter`
`16:42.04`	`Beladona`	`I know that`
`16:42.08`	`Beladona`	`I need cedega to see it`
`16:42.10`	`End`	`oooh`
`16:42.19`	`End`	`hrm`
`16:42.47`	`Beladona`	`nm it found it`
`16:42.59`	`Beladona`	`just copied it into the program folder for cedega, and it added it`
`16:43.53`	`End`	`ah`
`16:53.30`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Legorol (i=legorol@cpc3-cmbg6-6-0-cust238.cmbg.cable.ntl.com)`
`16:53.39`	`End`	`hmmmmm`
`16:53.46`	`End`	`the test server copy page is up`
`16:54.29`	`End`	`but apparently they aren't resetting your copy limit from the last round of 1.9 testing to this one`
`16:54.38`	`End`	`or`
`16:54.40`	`End`	`they haven't yet`
`16:57.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Do they have a 1.8.4 --> test patch?`
`16:57.41`	`End`	`yes`
`16:57.44`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Whoo hoo`
`17:02.08`	`Beladona`	`PACHING`
`17:02.13`	`Beladona`	`WOW working on cedega`
`17:02.17`	`Beladona`	`no bugs`
`17:02.35`	`Beladona`	`now to remove bloody windows`
`17:04.10`	`Beladona`	`please tell me there isn't a new test build`
`17:04.58`	`Kolth`	`Dang, Bela. That's awesome.`
`17:05.36`	`Beladona`	`yeah thanks to norganna`
`17:05.49`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Gryphen (n=gryphon@63-228-96-74.tukw.qwest.net)`
`17:06.15`	`Kolth`	`Any differences between Windows WoW?`
`17:06.20`	`Kolth`	`Or doesit feel just the same?`
`17:06.20`	`Beladona`	`not at all`
`17:06.26`	`Beladona`	`same`
`17:06.27`	`Kolth`	`Sweet`
`17:06.45`	`Beladona`	`runs in windowed mode, but that doesn't bother me`
`17:07.04`	`Beladona`	`I have a 1900x1200 res anyway, so a smaller window isn't bad`
`17:08.23`	`norganna`	`good to hear bel :)`
`17:08.52`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yeah, I recieve nearly identical performance under linux and win32 also`
`17:09.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Points to blizzard for that`
`17:09.07`	`Beladona`	`hehe`
`17:09.14`	`Beladona`	`well`
`17:09.34`	`Beladona`	`you are running windows emulation, so that makes sense, if not impresses you`
`17:10.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`17:10.10`	`Beladona`	`I need to make a desktop command line to run it now`
`17:10.11`	`ScytheBlade1`	`What does WINE stand for? ;)`
`17:10.23`	`norganna`	`Wine Is Not an Emulator`
`17:10.28`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ding ding`
`17:10.40`	`Beladona`	`right`
`17:10.49`	`Beladona`	`whatever you want to call it`
`17:11.15`	`norganna`	`its an implementation of the windows api`
`17:11.32`	`Beladona`	`which is why it runs better than say QEMU`
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`17:34.52`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge pfault (i=pagefaul@69.158.160.41)`
`17:47.39`	`krka`	`i didn't manage to sell a blue when I got one :/ (skeleton shoulders I believe)`
`17:51.00`	`MoonWolf`	`perhaps someone here can help me im looking for some free webhosting with php`
`17:54.05`	`Kolth`	`Try http://www.1and1.com -- See if they're still offering.`
`17:54.21`	`Gryphen`	`http://www.free-webhosts.com/free-php-webhosting.php`
`17:54.25`	`Kolth`	`http://www.asmallorange.com can get you near-free hosting with a lot more than just PHP. $30/yr`
`18:04.52`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge Cairenn\|sleep (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`18:06.00`	`digix`	`i have 1and1 and theyve been pretty good`
`18:06.18`	`digix`	`dont know if they still offer the free package though`
`18:06.47`	`Kolth`	`Mine's still active and it's free.`
`18:07.00`	`Kolth`	`I got it a long time ago though.`
`18:07.11`	`digix`	`same here`
`18:08.24`	`digix`	`quick change of subject (sorry Moon): im looking for some sort of package to put my character profile on my site`
`18:08.54`	`MoonWolf`	`its fine. i got something from the second link.`
`18:08.57`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge groll (n=hoho@62.119.159.41)`
`18:09.02`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Natasem (n=Natasem@63.197.112.216)`
`18:09.16`	`Kolth`	`digix, google rpgo character profiler`
`18:09.46`	`digix`	`ive seen it on curse but havent googled it yet.... hmmmm`
`18:10.03`	`Kolth`	`You use CharacterProfiler with Roster.`
`18:11.24`	`Natasem`	`or go here`
`18:11.26`	`Natasem`	`http://www.rpgoutfitter.com/`
`18:12.20`	`Tain`	`If you want to you can also do an embedded link to Allakhazam and have your profiles there.`
`18:12.53`	`Natasem`	`where is cairenn?`
`18:13.33`	`Natasem`	`she has a "direct link" to the Hacks @ blizzard contact`
`18:13.54`	`Natasem`	`i need to report a new "program" and i want to make sure it get there to them`
`18:14.02`	`digix`	`well, rpgoutfitter hosts all profiles on their does it not? and im a fledgling when it comes to php/xml parsing`
`18:14.19`	`Kolth`	`digix: Download Roster`
`18:14.29`	`Natasem`	`ya they not only hose them but rpgoutfitters is also the Mod authors`
`18:14.39`	`Natasem`	`hose = host`
`18:15.35`	`Ktron`	`Alright, time to try to write a new mod`
`18:16.21`	`digix`	`Kolth: i dont see a roster, unless your talking about the guild roster on curse`
`18:16.37`	`Kolth`	`sec, I'll link`
`18:17.45`	`Kolth`	`They moved it.`
`18:18.15`	`Gryphen`	`http://www.wowprofilers.com is hosting your own guild roster`
`18:18.43`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Cairenn (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM014500004571.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`18:18.44`	`*** mode/#wowi-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ`
`18:19.41`	`MoonWolf`	`talk about the devil`
`18:21.37`	`Tain`	`I wonder if I should get anyone this $300k+ gold plated, 80 carot diamond laptop.`
`18:21.44`	`Tain`	`Mornin Cair`
`18:21.49`	`Cairenn`	`hey`
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`18:27.33`	`Natasem`	`hey cairenn, i was just talkin about you`
`18:27.41`	`Natasem`	`were yer ears ringing?`
`18:27.48`	`Cairenn`	`nope`
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`18:28.18`	`groll`	`anyone wanna pop my webradio :D`
`18:28.24`	`groll`	`Cairenn i know u want to :P`
`18:28.52`	`groll`	`in that case i wanna be your personal illel`
`18:28.52`	`groll`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:28.57`	`groll`	`oops lol`
`18:29.13`	`futr-sleep`	`a scope question. A local in function should be available in any functions called in that function?`
`18:29.23`	`groll`	`http://www.heffe.mine.nu:8000 into winamp`
`18:30.42`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge MentalPower\|ZZzz (n=void@host-70-45-80-48.onelinkpr.net)`
`18:31.52`	`Tain`	`The local won't be available to functions called inside a function unless you pass it to that function.`
`18:32.20`	`futrtrubl`	`damn`
`18:32.51`	`futrtrubl`	`is there anyway to pass extra args when using foreach(table,func)?`
`18:33.11`	`Natasem`	`what kinda music groll?`
`18:34.56`	`krka`	`the function knows about all the locals that exist where it is defined`
`18:35.15`	`groll`	`natasen my great music taste :P`
`18:35.43`	`groll`	`ebm etc`
`18:36.04`	`groll`	`and a tiny bit of goth`
`18:36.09`	`groll`	`hehe :D`
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`18:37.16`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Hello.`
`18:38.59`	`groll`	`ellu`
`18:39.31`	`futrtrubl`	`hola`
`18:39.45`	`Cairenn`	`Natasem: got back a "thanks"`
`18:42.24`	`groll`	`Cairenn bounce to my radio!! :D`
`18:45.55`	`Tain`	`No you didn't get my hacks disabled did you? Nooooo!`
`18:50.04`	`Natasem`	`@ TainI wonder if I should get anyone this $300k+ gold plated, 80 carot diamond laptop.???? where is this laptop?`
`18:50.42`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Tsurani (n=Tsurani@63.197.112.216)`
`18:52.01`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Natasem (n=Natasem@63.197.112.216)`
`18:52.09`	`Natasem`	`test`
`18:52.22`	`Natasem`	`good now i got my chat back`
`18:52.52`	`Natasem`	`i keep getting this from teh beta of chatzilla`
`18:52.54`	`Natasem`	`[WARNING]ChatZilla has detected a potential abnormality in its internal data. You will not be able to send any form of communication at this time, although it might appear you can. The most likely cause is Mozilla Bug 291386 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291386>. You are strongly advised to restart the host application (Firefox) to prevent further problems.`
`18:53.13`	`Natasem`	`i'm tired of makin bug reports on the new version lol`
`18:53.28`	`*** part/#wowi-lounge Tsurani (n=Tsurani@63.197.112.216)`
`18:54.40`	`Tain`	`Natasem: http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=2615`
`18:54.57`	`Natasem`	`anyone else haveing issues connectiong to game?`
`18:55.14`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Nope.. actually am now running two instances on the same bos :)`
`18:55.19`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`^^Box`
`18:55.31`	`futrtrubl`	`pos?`
`18:56.18`	`Cairenn`	`unh, Beladona?`
`18:56.38`	`Cairenn`	`hate to tell you this ... Test Server patch`
`18:57.13`	`Beladona`	`yeah`
`18:57.13`	`Natasem`	`test server patch?`
`18:57.17`	`Natasem`	`YaY`
`18:57.19`	`Beladona`	`will take care of it when I get home`
`18:57.24`	`Beladona`	`=P`
`18:57.25`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`You guys didn't know? for the fear desync`
`18:57.27`	`Natasem`	`i like to see test server patches`
`18:57.42`	`Cairenn`	`just figured I'd let ya know`
`18:57.46`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Don't you use a forum shredder?`
`18:58.23`	`Beladona`	`am trying to edit my bootloader so that windows isn't an option`
`18:58.31`	`Beladona`	`not letting me`
`19:00.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`?`
`19:00.52`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`But how will your computer crash ever 48 days if you do that?`
`19:02.41`	`Tain`	`What bootloader, Beladona?`
`19:03.50`	`MoonWolf`	`lilo or grub`
`19:04.06`	`MoonWolf`	`im betting on grub`
`19:04.46`	`digix`	`sigh after looking into several options for the profile situation, almost all of them are either "upload your profile to our site" or "heres your profile saved to .lua, now parse it on your own"`
`19:05.17`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`There's a few out there.. None are being actively maintained digix.`
`19:05.21`	`Beladona`	`grub`
`19:05.34`	`Kremonte`	`morning y'all`
`19:05.42`	`Beladona`	`the menu.lst file doesn't contain the kernel options like it should`
`19:05.42`	`MoonWolf`	`evening Kremonte`
`19:05.47`	`Beladona`	`so I am guessing it is somewhere else`
`19:05.51`	`Beladona`	`and there isn't a grub.conf`
`19:05.56`	`ScytheBlade1`	`mount /boot`
`19:05.56`	`Kremonte`	`Beladona - hows the ubuntu WoW going?`
`19:06.11`	`MoonWolf`	`frind grub.conf`
`19:06.14`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`There was one that turned your savedVars.lua file into XML.. I can't seem to find it though`
`19:06.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`grub.conf is in /boot/grub/grub.conf`
`19:06.54`	`digix`	`yeah, there is a "WoWparse" listed on curse i think`
`19:07.12`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Then you just need some XSLT to get it out.`
`19:07.18`	`Beladona`	`like I said, there is no grub.conf in /boot/grub`
`19:08.01`	`digix`	`hmmmm, never messed with XSLT`
`19:08.18`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Ah.. That might be interesting then.`
`19:08.22`	`Beladona`	`it is using menu.lst`
`19:08.23`	`Kremonte`	`i had to make my grub.conf when i used gentoo`
`19:08.25`	`Beladona`	`weird`
`19:08.54`	`digix`	`yeah, thats part of the problem.... im a designer, not a coder (as much sense as that makes)`
`19:09.07`	`Kremonte`	`makes a lot of sense`
`19:09.10`	`Kremonte`	`:P`
`19:09.21`	`digix`	`well, i know it goes hand in hand in a lot of cases`
`19:09.26`	`Beladona`	`what do you need help with digix`
`19:09.31`	`Beladona`	`I am pretty good at xslt`
`19:09.32`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Well, can you design UI's using XML? That's the part that everyone has trouble with :)`
`19:09.41`	`Beladona`	`wdn.wowinterface is almost completely xml -> xslt`
`19:09.54`	`digix`	`trying to get my character profile on my own site`
`19:09.57`	`Kremonte`	`wait wah`
`19:10.00`	`Kremonte`	`wth is xslt`
`19:10.05`	`Beladona`	`can you post an example`
`19:10.20`	`digix`	`i have the xml from the allah profile to work with, but i want to be able to customize things`
`19:10.27`	`Beladona`	`it is a stylesheet format that can take xml data and output it in xhtml format for the web`
`19:10.43`	`Beladona`	`among other thingfs`
`19:11.00`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Yeah.. But it can actually create any text output. XML, XSLT <!!>, etc.`
`19:11.06`	`Beladona`	`aye`
`19:11.43`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`It's like one of those transmorgifier thingies from calvin and hobbs.. you put things in this end, and other stuff comes out the other end.`
`19:12.28`	`digix`	`ive also tried other addons for profiling (like rpgo and another one that i cant remember atm) but they just output .lua most of the time and leave it up to the user to create the xml or otherwise`
`19:12.39`	`Beladona`	`digix: not sure what to tell you. You can learn xslt, but if you don't like designing in code you may have issues`
`19:13.14`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Yeah.. Custom = you learn how to make it that way :)`
`19:13.35`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`or Custom = you pay someone else to make it that way... :)`
`19:13.37`	`digix`	`i have no problem learning, but itd be nice to have a template of some kind to go off of instead of starting from scratch with a piddly "hello world" :P`
`19:14.10`	`Beladona`	`ok`
`19:14.18`	`Beladona`	`http://wdn.wowinterface.com`
`19:14.23`	`Beladona`	`look at the xml source`
`19:14.27`	`Beladona`	`then`
`19:15.21`	`Beladona`	`http://wdn.wowinterface.com/module/template/index.xsl`
`19:15.26`	`Beladona`	`and get that source to`
`19:15.32`	`Beladona`	`maybe download them to your desktop`
`19:16.20`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`What engine are you going to use Digix? MSXML? Xerces?`
`19:16.24`	`digix`	`ok, hang on...... look at the xml source? of what?`
`19:16.34`	`Beladona`	`the main page`
`19:16.39`	`Beladona`	`if you ciew the source, it is xml`
`19:16.42`	`Beladona`	`view*`
`19:16.49`	`digix`	`ohhhh, sorry`
`19:16.57`	`digix`	`didnt notice the redirect to xml`
`19:17.02`	`Beladona`	`=P`
`19:17.15`	`Beladona`	`I like xml/xsl`
`19:17.31`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Yeah.. most browser now adays will transform for you.. This is the key line:<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="template/index.xsl"?>`
`19:17.36`	`Beladona`	`makes changing the template very easy`
`19:17.57`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Yes.. but can be inefficient for some things.`
`19:18.12`	`digix`	`yeah, i really like xml, but just havent delved into much`
`19:18.12`	`Beladona`	`like?`
`19:19.12`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Well, for example, static content. If you have content that is rendered 1000 times a day, and it doesn't change over 100 days, you shouldn't be using realtime xml/xslt to transform that content.`
`19:19.25`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Though, that's more of a complaint about realtimeness, than xml/xslt.`
`19:19.34`	`Beladona`	`right`
`19:19.41`	`Beladona`	`the purpose of it is to render data that changes`
`19:21.57`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`anyone know about the chat flood controller?`
`19:22.09`	`Beladona`	`he likes cookies`
`19:22.11`	`Beladona`	`oh wait`
`19:22.27`	`digix`	`interesting.... thanks for pointing in that direction Bela :) i knew you could put formatting straight to the xml instead of parsing it with php, but just didnt know how`
`19:22.54`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`That doesn't work the same for all browsers...`
`19:23.22`	`digix`	`anything of note that would render differently?`
`19:23.45`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Well, they hve to havea modenr (last 1.5 years or so browser for it to work at all..)`
`19:23.53`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`^^ modern..`
`19:24.13`	`Beladona`	`anyone using anything before that cna go to hell anyway`
`19:24.14`	`Natasem`	`YaY blue go get them http://wow.warcry.com/index.php#51145`
`19:24.24`	`digix`	`well... i would hope they arent running IE 3, lol`
`19:24.30`	`Natasem`	`dam it`
`19:24.32`	`Natasem`	`wrong room`
`19:24.36`	`digix`	`if so, then they fail at the intertrons`
`19:25.01`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Some OS's are going to have slight quirks if you are using some strange things :)... (I think apple uses a different XSLT engine right?)`
`19:25.29`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`That might be at the browser level.. not sure. I don't usually transform client side.`
`19:25.30`	`Beladona`	`it takes testing is all`
`19:25.34`	`Beladona`	`it is`
`19:25.56`	`Beladona`	`if they are using ie for mac it is pretty close to the same, not sure on safari`
`19:26.11`	`Beladona`	`it is more about the actual output you do though`
`19:26.14`	`Beladona`	`html`
`19:26.32`	`Beladona`	`stay standards compliant with that and you should be good`
`19:26.46`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`You're also giving your data away.. but for this use, I dont think you care..`
`19:26.59`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`But thott for example, is not going to be doing client side transforms anytime soon :)`
`19:35.21`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`So we have lua code libraries right?... Do we have XML widget libraries?`
`19:35.31`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Like I'm struggling to create my own list/select box.`
`19:36.10`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`I shouldn't have to right? List/select boxes are going to have the same core components... and setters/getters..`
`19:36.18`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`I shudder to say this.. but like VB.`
`19:36.28`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`or SWING.. yeah... thats it .. SWING.`
`19:37.53`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Is there anything like that? Shared widget Libraries?`
`19:38.06`	`Beladona`	`not sure I understand what you are asking`
`19:38.23`	`Beladona`	`names xml elements exist in the lua namespace`
`19:38.26`	`Beladona`	`named*`
`19:39.02`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`I'd like to be able to go somewhere and get a select Box widget. This widget is two things. An XML file and a lua file.`
`19:39.05`	`Beladona`	`or are you talking about code libraries for common xml, such as a config window`
`19:39.19`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`The XMl file has all the trimmings for a select box.`
`19:39.24`	`Beladona`	`don't think there is a central place no`
`19:39.29`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`I can inherit it in my XML file.`
`19:39.53`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`the Lua file has the setters/getters to handle the widget. I can overide/super handle them.`
`19:40.16`	`Beladona`	`I had plans to do a site kinda like hotscripts, where code samples could be uploaded, but it kinda went to the wayside with recent work`
`19:40.18`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`in other words, I guess it boils down to my not liking the amount of reusability in the XML UI space .`
`19:40.40`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`There is a lot.. but not enough to make great UI's IMO.`
`19:41.58`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Anyone remember the name of the Guild Frame? I guess I can base my select box off that one.`
`19:42.07`	`Tain`	`Sounds like AceGUI's goals. :)`
`19:42.26`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`Hmm.. What's AceGUI? Sounds shiny.`
`19:42.47`	`Beladona`	`you still have the rock?`
`19:43.01`	`Beladona`	`you know, the one you have been under for the past several months`
`19:43.04`	`Beladona`	`=P`
`19:43.34`	`Legorol`	`hi all, i have a question for those using macromedia flash authoring products`
`19:43.45`	`Legorol`	`can someone tell me what teh various versions are?`
`19:43.55`	`Legorol`	`i'm a bit confused between Flash 5, MX, MX 2004, 8`
`19:43.56`	`Tain`	`AceGUI (requires Ace) lets you specify basically just the frame name in XML, and everything else in Lua.`
`19:43.58`	`Beladona`	`how far back are we talking`
`19:44.02`	`Legorol`	`which came out first and in what order?`
`19:44.27`	`Beladona`	`Flash 5, 6, MX, MX2004, 8`
`19:44.31`	`Legorol`	`Beladona, let's say what was the last version to have a number (e.g. 4 or 5), and when was MX introduced?`
`19:44.33`	`Beladona`	`I believe was the order`
`19:44.36`	`Legorol`	`right`
`19:44.39`	`Legorol`	`so 8 is newer than MX2004`
`19:44.43`	`Beladona`	`aye`
`19:44.47`	`Legorol`	`and which one is 7?`
`19:44.50`	`Beladona`	`same with dreamweaver`
`19:44.54`	`Beladona`	`there was none`
`19:45.03`	`Beladona`	`MX was considered 7`
`19:45.20`	`Legorol`	`ok, thanks for the help`
`19:45.28`	`Legorol`	`lastly, if i want to buy MX 2004, where woudl i look?`
`19:45.32`	`Legorol`	`macromedia website only offers 8`
`19:45.34`	`Beladona`	`macromedia.com`
`19:45.36`	`Beladona`	`oh`
`19:45.46`	`Beladona`	`maybe newegg`
`19:46.02`	`Legorol`	`ok, now for an entirely different question:`
`19:46.07`	`Beladona`	`imho 8 is better`
`19:46.11`	`Beladona`	`but thats just me`
`19:46.17`	`Legorol`	`i've got a 12 year old nephew, who expressed interest in computer programming`
`19:46.27`	`Beladona`	`0.o`
`19:46.27`	`Legorol`	`i was thinking something that's fun (e.g. games), simple and very basic is needed`
`19:46.34`	`MoonWolf`	`qbasic`
`19:46.40`	`MoonWolf`	`it kept me entertained at that age.`
`19:46.41`	`Legorol`	`so i need to think about language, environment, ide, project and book`
`19:46.51`	`MoonWolf`	`qbasic and the qbasic help files.`
`19:46.55`	`Legorol`	`MoonWolf, i think he needs something with more easy access to graphics`
`19:46.58`	`Beladona`	`http://www.kickstartnews.com/reviews/education/game_prog_starterkit5.html`
`19:47.08`	`Legorol`	`is that targeted at kids?`
`19:47.26`	`MoonWolf`	`you want to start a kid of 12 of with c++ ???`
`19:47.32`	`Beladona`	`why not`
`19:47.56`	`Beladona`	`start him right`
`19:47.58`	`Beladona`	`young or not`
`19:48.15`	`Beladona`	`you would be surprised at the understanding of children these days`
`19:48.32`	`Tain`	`Start with assembly then.`
`19:49.57`	`MoonWolf`	`hah`
`19:50.13`	`Beladona`	`check google, I am sure they have a starter kit geared for kids`
`19:53.02`	`Tain`	`Starting with at least rudimentary assembly gives a better idea of how things work rather than just being told to use this function to do this.`
`19:53.14`	`futrtrubl`	`this is so anoying, SetAlpha doesn't seem to work right for me it is called on the same element onupdate and onevent`
`19:54.31`	`krka`	`uhm... starting with c++ is the worst decision ever`
`19:54.41`	`krka`	`there are so many ways you can screw up`
`19:54.48`	`krka`	`more forgiving languages FTW`
`19:55.44`	`Tain`	`I have to agree. I think c++ should be in there, but not to start off with.`
`19:56.08`	`Tain`	`Of course I think the best to start with is Pascal. :)`
`19:56.11`	`krka`	`i think I can handle c++ ok but I also know there's a 1000 things I don't know`
`19:56.24`	`krka`	`have to disagree with you there :P`
`19:56.37`	`krka`	`actually, I think Lua is a good first language`
`19:57.13`	`MoonWolf`	`but ist not really grahpical is it.`
`19:57.16`	`futrtrubl`	`not Fortran Tain?`
`19:57.32`	`krka`	`no language is graphical in it self`
`19:57.34`	`MoonWolf`	`i still vote for a basic variant.`
`19:57.56`	`MoonWolf`	`http://darkbasic.thegamecreators.com/`
`19:58.06`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i started with c++ o.O`
`19:58.13`	`MoonWolf`	`http://darkbasic.thegamecreators.com/?f=order_beginners`
`19:58.14`	`krka`	`starting with basic is a serious disfavour, imo`
`19:58.21`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i had no what idea i was doing back then, but i was as proud of my hello world as anyone else!`
`19:58.24`	`Tain`	`I don't think you should start with anything graphical.`
`19:58.43`	`krka`	`yes, simple text programs is the way to start`
`19:58.49`	`MoonWolf`	`tain, the first thing i made was printing pixels to screens, so why not ?`
`19:58.58`	`Tain`	`But the reason I say Pascal is just because it starts fairly slowly with introducing the concept of functions.`
`19:59.22`	`krka`	`there still is a lot of overhead in pascal`
`19:59.38`	`krka`	`declaring begin and end. and vars and using and ...`
`19:59.50`	`krka`	`lua is very quick to begin with`
`20:00.09`	`Tain`	`See I think it's better to learn that you normally have to define vars.`
`20:00.26`	`Beladona`	`my first language was basic, but that was when it was used`
`20:00.30`	`Tain`	`And Lua still has begins and ends, just in the form of { }`
`20:00.35`	`Tain`	`Me too, Beladona.`
`20:00.38`	`Beladona`	`I think learning it today is a waste`
`20:00.46`	`Beladona`	`you would have to unlearn a lot of it to move on`
`20:01.10`	`krka`	`no, lua uses then/while/do and end`
`20:01.13`	`Tain`	`Unless you just want to be a Visual BASIC maintenance programmer.`
`20:01.22`	`Beladona`	`Why LUA?`
`20:01.23`	`Beladona`	`HAHAHAHA`
`20:01.35`	`krka`	`but you don't need a main begin-end in lua`
`20:01.38`	`krka`	`like you do in pascal`
`20:02.00`	`Tain`	`That's sort of a bit more nit-picky than anything, krka.`
`20:02.11`	`Tain`	`We're takling overall programming concepts.`
`20:02.36`	`Tain`	`And as much as I do like Lua I'd still suggest C before Lua.`
`20:04.01`	`Beladona`	`Dreamwever 8 -- on linux`
`20:04.06`	`Beladona`	`weeeee`
`20:10.17`	`krka`	`c? with that bad memory handling and pointers and stuff?`
`20:10.29`	`krka`	`i think interpretered is better for a first language`
`20:11.36`	`*** join/#wowi-lounge Parak (n=profi@user-12hdr8d.cable.mindspring.com)`
`20:12.22`	`krka`	`i like c's syntax though`
`20:12.30`	`krka`	`but all those pointers are tricky for n00bs`
`20:18.48`	`Legorol`	`i think you guys are missing an important point ;-)`
`20:18.57`	`Legorol`	`this kid wants to have fun, not become a programmer`
`20:19.06`	`Legorol`	`so i will get something visual, graphical, clickety click`
`20:19.13`	`Legorol`	`hence thinking about flash`
`20:19.27`	`Legorol`	`BASIC is probably perfect as a starting language`
`20:19.35`	`Legorol`	`or any simple, interpreted or scripting language`
`20:19.42`	`Legorol`	`i'd leave out the whole idea of compiling to start with`
`20:19.57`	`Legorol`	`thanks for all the suggestions though`
`20:20.18`	`krka`	`fun? where's the fun in that?`
`20:20.49`	`krka`	`ok, so anyone have great cedega 5 skills?`
`20:20.56`	`krka`	`i need to get it to run wow`
`20:30.11`	`krka`	`Beladona, did you get cedega 5 running WoW?`
`20:30.41`	`Kremonte`	`cedega ew`
`20:30.44`	`Kremonte`	`cedega is sinful`
`20:30.59`	`Kremonte`	`requiring money to use something on linux is a sin =O`
`20:31.30`	`krka`	`agreed`
`20:31.40`	`krka`	`i was wondering if it was easily bypassed :P`
`20:31.51`	`Kremonte`	`supposedly it runs great under wine`
`20:31.54`	`Kremonte`	`ask ScytheBlade1`
`20:31.55`	`Beladona`	`cedega runs wow`
`20:31.57`	`Beladona`	`perfectly`
`20:32.00`	`Beladona`	`with no hacks`
`20:32.08`	`krka`	`i used to run an old version of cedega and it worked fine`
`20:32.17`	`Kremonte`	`Beladona - it's still sinful`
`20:32.18`	`krka`	`i downloaded cedega 5 and it seems weird`
`20:32.22`	`Beladona`	`YMMV, but it worked for me`
`20:32.33`	`Kremonte`	`i don't want to pay monthly`
`20:32.34`	`Beladona`	`I have both wine and it installed`
`20:32.34`	`krka`	`do you pay for it?`
`20:32.38`	`Kremonte`	`just to play a game i already pay monthly for`
`20:32.42`	`Beladona`	`I use cedega for wow, and am using wine for other stuff`
`20:32.52`	`krka`	`i use wine for starcraft :)`
`20:32.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`?`
`20:33.00`	`Beladona`	`ooh`
`20:33.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Ask me what?`
`20:33.05`	`Beladona`	`hey now.....`
`20:33.24`	`krka`	`anyone can help me get wow running under cedega 5?`
`20:33.29`	`Beladona`	`I could probably play sc in a window np`
`20:33.34`	`krka`	`cedega WoW.exe just gives me a friggin gui nu :(`
`20:33.38`	`Kremonte`	`World of Starcraft`
`20:33.41`	`krka`	`yes you could`
`20:33.47`	`Beladona`	`krka, what do you need help with?`
`20:33.47`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yeah, you can play SC windowed with WINE with about 0 effort`
`20:33.57`	`krka`	`getting cedega to start wow`
`20:34.01`	`Beladona`	`ok`
`20:34.09`	`krka`	`i am not registrered btw`
`20:34.14`	`Beladona`	`did you get wow to show up in the cedega gui?`
`20:34.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`krka, just start wow, login, and change the options in the video settings`
`20:34.17`	`Beladona`	`me neither`
`20:34.18`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It's just a checkbox`
`20:34.26`	`krka`	`nope, it isn't in the gui`
`20:34.30`	`krka`	`how do I set that up?`
`20:34.31`	`Beladona`	`ok`
`20:34.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`WoW has settings inside it to run windowed`
`20:34.41`	`Beladona`	`first you need to moce the wow folder`
`20:34.43`	`Beladona`	`move`
`20:34.44`	`krka`	`and where should I place my wow-dir?`
`20:34.55`	`krka`	`~/.cedega?`
`20:34.57`	`Beladona`	`sec, finding mine`
`20:34.59`	`Beladona`	`yes`
`20:35.16`	`Beladona`	`once you do that, close cedega and reopen it`
`20:35.24`	`Beladona`	`it should show the folder name on the left`
`20:35.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`krka, in WoW Dir/WTF/Config.wtf, add a line`
`20:35.24`	`ScytheBlade1`	`SET gxWindow "1"`
`20:35.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`And it'll run windowed mode`
`20:35.33`	`krka`	`~/.cedega/Dot Transgaming/c_drive/?`
`20:35.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Probably, yes`
`20:35.46`	`Beladona`	`hang on`
`20:36.30`	`Beladona`	`I put mine in my home/user/.cedega/Warcraft`
`20:36.43`	`krka`	`ok`
`20:37.01`	`krka`	`Dot Transgaming is old imported stuff I think`
`20:37.05`	`Beladona`	`yeah`
`20:37.15`	`Beladona`	`once you get the folder in there`
`20:37.21`	`Beladona`	`we need to create the app profile`
`20:38.05`	`krka`	`so ~/.cedega/World\ of\ Warcraft/ contains WoW.exe et.c.`
`20:38.10`	`Beladona`	`I renamed my wow folder to Warcraft for simplicity`
`20:38.14`	`Beladona`	`yeah`
`20:38.22`	`krka`	`good idea`
`20:38.27`	`krka`	`mine is now named w`
`20:38.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`20:38.31`	`Beladona`	`lol`
`20:38.34`	`Kremonte`	`descriptive.`
`20:38.37`	`ScytheBlade1`	`So, you still need it to run in a window?`
`20:38.42`	`Beladona`	`cant get any more simple than that`
`20:39.00`	`Beladona`	`mine was already set to run in a window`
`20:39.03`	`Beladona`	`so not sure`
`20:39.09`	`Beladona`	`I would`
`20:39.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<ScytheBlade1> krka, in WoW Dir/WTF/Config.wtf, add a line`
`20:39.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<ScytheBlade1> SET gxWindow "1"`
`20:39.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`<ScytheBlade1> And it'll run windowed mode`
`20:39.19`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Tada`
`20:39.36`	`Kremonte`	`don't you need to pay for cedega?`
`20:39.42`	`ScytheBlade1`	`btw, quick question: anyone know why blizz named their config files .wtf?`
`20:39.43`	`Beladona`	`you can add the opengl line there too`
`20:39.48`	`Beladona`	`supposedly`
`20:39.52`	`Kremonte`	`warcraft text file`
`20:39.57`	`Beladona`	`wow text file`
`20:39.59`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Kremonte, you pay for the binary, but they have an open CVS server`
`20:39.59`	`Beladona`	`or that`
`20:40.01`	`ScytheBlade1`	`oh, duh`
`20:40.12`	`Kremonte`	`ScytheBlade1 - wah?`
`20:40.16`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yup`
`20:40.16`	`krka`	`they must have though: "hmm... WTF also means what the fuck"`
`20:40.16`	`Kremonte`	`i don't know jack aboot cvs`
`20:40.29`	`ScytheBlade1`	`They forked WINE, so they have to have all of their stuff open sourced`
`20:40.33`	`krka`	`hmm, maybe I should dowload cedega engine`
`20:40.34`	`krka`	`whatever that is`
`20:40.39`	`Beladona`	`if you run linux you can check the cvs out and build it`
`20:40.50`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Which they do, less the things which they have purchased from other companies (which are in the binary, not the source, namely safedisc)`
`20:40.55`	`Beladona`	`are you updated krka?`
`20:40.59`	`Beladona`	`5.0.3?`
`20:41.03`	`ScytheBlade1`	`You pay if you want safedisc support, but otherwise...just grab the CVS`
`20:41.04`	`krka`	`probably not`
`20:41.14`	`krka`	`i grabbed a .deb`
`20:41.15`	`Beladona`	`try checking for updates`
`20:41.17`	`Kremonte`	`safedisc?`
`20:41.19`	`krka`	`from thepiratebay`
`20:41.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`CD copy protection`
`20:41.40`	`Kremonte`	`o_O`
`20:41.47`	`Beladona`	`norganna has the 5.0.3 patch file too`
`20:42.06`	`Kremonte`	`soo`
`20:42.18`	`Kremonte`	`any idea why my ubuntu locks up when it loads the partitioner at 52%?`
`20:42.27`	`krka`	`i have 5.0`
`20:42.29`	`krka`	`can't update`
`20:42.30`	`krka`	`it's greyed`
`20:42.51`	`Beladona`	`http://norganna.org/cedega`
`20:42.59`	`krka`	`thanks`
`20:43.12`	`Beladona`	`just download the 5.0.3 cpkg`
`20:43.25`	`Beladona`	`then in the cedega gui, choose install local update`
`20:43.30`	`Beladona`	`and browse to it`
`20:43.35`	`krka`	`yay`
`20:43.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Wow, that's illegal`
`20:43.50`	`Beladona`	`nah`
`20:44.26`	`Beladona`	`ok so you are updated`
`20:44.35`	`Beladona`	`and have w listed in cedega`
`20:44.37`	`Beladona`	`?`
`20:44.54`	`krka`	`done`
`20:44.54`	`Beladona`	`cedega w bush`
`20:44.56`	`Beladona`	`oh`
`20:45.13`	`Beladona`	`ok right click on "w"`
`20:45.16`	`Beladona`	`in cedega`
`20:45.27`	`Beladona`	`add icon`
`20:45.32`	`Kremonte`	`noone has any idea? ;_:`
`20:45.32`	`krka`	`ok`
`20:45.41`	`Beladona`	`name it whatever you want`
`20:45.45`	`Beladona`	`I named it World of Warcraft`
`20:45.49`	`Beladona`	`<duh>`
`20:46.13`	`Beladona`	`then for program, hit browse`
`20:46.19`	`Beladona`	`on the left hit ../`
`20:46.29`	`krka`	`i think it's done`
`20:46.33`	`Beladona`	`and wow.exe`
`20:46.38`	`Beladona`	`oh you got it?`
`20:46.47`	`krka`	`Could not stat /home/krka/.cedega/wow/c_drive (No such file or directory), ignoring drive C:`
`20:46.47`	`krka`	`hmm`
`20:46.49`	`Tain`	`What, you're not running the launcher? :)`
`20:46.53`	`Beladona`	`yeah`
`20:46.59`	`Beladona`	`you didn't link it right`
`20:47.12`	`Beladona`	`we will get to that Tain`
`20:47.17`	`Beladona`	`gotta make the profile first`
`20:47.40`	`Beladona`	`krka: delete the icon and start over`
`20:47.46`	`Beladona`	`=P`
`20:47.58`	`krka`	`ko`
`20:47.59`	`krka`	`ok`
`20:48.00`	`Beladona`	`here is what I have in mine`
`20:48.20`	`Beladona`	`name: World of Warcraft`
`20:48.29`	`krka`	`check`
`20:48.48`	`Beladona`	`on program hit browse`
`20:48.57`	`Beladona`	`double click ../ on left`
`20:49.04`	`Beladona`	`then choose wow.exe on right`
`20:49.18`	`krka`	`uhm... there is no wow.exe there`
`20:49.23`	`krka`	`how do you know where I put it? O_o`
`20:49.42`	`krka`	`i start in ~/.cedega/`
`20:49.44`	`Beladona`	`because it always starts in the w folder`
`20:49.48`	`Beladona`	`or should`
`20:49.50`	`krka`	`and wow is in ~/.cedega/w/`
`20:49.55`	`Beladona`	`weird`
`20:50.02`	`Beladona`	`mine started under the w folder`
`20:50.10`	`krka`	`does it matter where it starts?`
`20:50.14`	`Beladona`	`actually w/c_drive`
`20:50.17`	`Beladona`	`no`
`20:50.24`	`krka`	`i can find WoW.exe in any case`
`20:50.28`	`Beladona`	`yeah`
`20:50.38`	`krka`	`don't quite have a c_drive there`
`20:50.40`	`Beladona`	`do that for program, icon`
`20:50.43`	`krka`	`do I need to make one, and fill it with something?`
`20:50.49`	`Beladona`	`and working directory obviously is just the folder`
`20:50.58`	`Beladona`	`no`
`20:51.05`	`Beladona`	`I dont have one either, it just tries to go there`
`20:51.17`	`krka`	`it is complaining :/`
`20:51.29`	`krka`	`Could not stat /home/krka/.cedega/wow/c_drive (No such file or directory), ignoring drive C:`
`20:51.29`	`krka`	`Invalid path 'c:\windows' for windows directory: does not exist`
`20:51.29`	`krka`	`Perhaps you have not properly edited or created your Wine configuration file.`
`20:51.29`	`krka`	`This is (supposed to be) '/home/krka/.cedega/wow/config'`
`20:51.50`	`Beladona`	`uhh`
`20:52.54`	`Beladona`	`hmm`
`20:53.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Yeah, Cedega tries to be 'User Friendly.' By doing anything other than what it would do by default, it breaks, horrobly`
`20:54.18`	`Beladona`	`so where the hell is it looking for your config file`
`20:54.19`	`Beladona`	`?`
`20:55.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`If you're asking me, I have no clue. I installed WoW to ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/, and then made a script that starts WoW, placed it in ~/bin (which is in my PATH), and stopped caring about how I started it.`
`20:55.44`	`krka`	`ok, now it's not complaining yet`
`20:55.46`	`ScytheBlade1`	`wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/World of Warcraft/WoW.exe -opengl`
`20:55.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`ftw`
`20:55.51`	`krka`	`made a c_drive and a wow in c_Drive`
`20:55.53`	`krka`	`and moved everything there`
`20:55.56`	`krka`	`and remade the config`
`20:55.59`	`Beladona`	`kk`
`20:56.04`	`Beladona`	`does it like it now?`
`20:56.11`	`krka`	`well, it's starting up!`
`20:56.13`	`ScytheBlade1`	`It'll whine about registy, I'd imagine, once you start something`
`20:56.14`	`Beladona`	`cool`
`20:56.15`	`Kremonte`	`any idea why my ubuntu locks up when it loads the partitioner at 52%?`
`20:56.15`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Oh, hey, not bad`
`20:56.16`	`krka`	`slooowly`
`20:56.25`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Kremonte, what's it doing at 52%?`
`20:56.28`	`Beladona`	`you need to make some config changes`
`20:56.32`	`Kremonte`	`loading the partitioner`
`20:56.34`	`krka`	`yay, i have it in a window now`
`20:56.39`	`Kremonte`	`(talking about installing ubuntu ><)`
`20:56.41`	`ScytheBlade1`	`From...? A CD?`
`20:56.47`	`krka`	`thanks guys`
`20:56.47`	`Kremonte`	`ya`
`20:56.48`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'd make sure the CD is good`
`20:56.55`	`Kremonte`	`i burned it on 4 different cd's`
`20:57.00`	`ScytheBlade1`	`wow, gfg`
`20:57.44`	`Kremonte`	`no idea? ><;`
`20:57.50`	`krka`	`wouldn't full screen be faster?`
`20:57.53`	`Kremonte`	`i have noo idea, i think linuxh ates me`
`20:57.54`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`ugh..FriendsFrame.xml is 105kb..`
`20:58.06`	`Kremonte`	`ubuntu won't install, gentoo breaks when i untar`
`20:58.12`	`krka`	`mepis!`
`20:58.18`	`Kremonte`	`krka - no!`
`20:58.26`	`krka`	`plain debian!`
`20:58.32`	`Kremonte`	`krka - no!`
`20:58.39`	`ScytheBlade1`	`gentoo! the only thing worth using!`
`20:58.46`	`Kremonte`	`i miss gentoo ;_;`
`20:58.47`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`is that macro'd? "rkka- no!`
`20:58.55`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Mmmmm gentoo`
`20:58.57`	`Nomad_Wanderer`	`^^^krka - no!`
`20:59.03`	`Kremonte`	`Nomad_Wanderer - i type :-)`
`20:59.10`	`ScytheBlade1`	`[OS] Gentoo Base System 1.12.0_pre11; Kernel 2.6.13 (114 processes)`
`20:59.11`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Mmmm gentoo`
`20:59.19`	`Kremonte`	`ScytheBlade1, you're making me cry`
`20:59.29`	`krka`	`Linux Moiraine 2.6.12-1-k7 #1 Tue Sep 27 13:22:07 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux`
`20:59.30`	`ScytheBlade1`	`So go install it!`
`20:59.37`	`Kremonte`	`it won't work!`
`20:59.40`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Heck, pop the live CD in, set the root pw, start SSH`
`20:59.43`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I'll install it for you`
`20:59.50`	`Kremonte`	`o.O`
`20:59.51`	`krka`	`wow, I'm almost using the same kernel`
`20:59.55`	`Kremonte`	`would SSH work with my router?`
`20:59.57`	`krka`	`i thought gentoo was cutting edge`
`21:00.02`	`krka`	`i haven't updated kernel in ages`
`21:00.03`	`Kremonte`	`no, krka`
`21:00.04`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Forward :22 tcp --> that computer`
`21:00.06`	`Kremonte`	`gentoo is bleeding edge`
`21:00.11`	`ScytheBlade1`	`krka, I hand-compile my kernel. :)`
`21:00.18`	`Ktron`	`mm... bleeding edge`
`21:00.20`	`ScytheBlade1`	`I don't let my distro touch that part of my OS`
`21:00.28`	`krka`	`i print out the kernel source from school and enter it manually`
`21:00.28`	`Kremonte`	`touch;`
`21:00.31`	`Kremonte`	`purl, sex?`
`21:00.32`	`purl`	`updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep, or super extractor, http://sf.net/projects/sex/`
`21:00.32`	`ScytheBlade1`	`-.-`
`21:00.34`	`krka`	`i even compile it in my head`
`21:00.56`	`ScytheBlade1`	`Kremonte, just forward 22/tcp to the comp you want it installed on, and sure, it'll work`
`21:01.15`	`Kremonte`	`k, hopefully dchp doesnt break my ip`
`21:01.23`	`Kremonte`	`tho it's been x.x.x.100 for a while now :-)`
`21:01.27`	`ScytheBlade1`	`hehe`
`21:01.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`check with ifconfig`
`21:01.36`	`ScytheBlade1`	`If not, just set it to that`
`21:01.47`	`Kremonte`	`oh yeah, ill be 1337 and manage my router via links`
`21:01.56`	`krka`	`linux ht fr lng nm ftw`
`21:02.19`	`Kremonte`	`and by 1337 i mean sadface`
`21:02.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`21:02.35`	`Kremonte`	`oh, before i go, if you break my windows install i will skin you ;-)`
`21:02.38`	`ScytheBlade1`	`lol`
`21:02.43`	`ScytheBlade1`	`just pop in IRC`
`21:02.45`	`ScytheBlade1`	`We can go from there`
`21:04.54`	`krka`	`anyone remember how to fix the cant-click-on-stuff-bug?`
`21:10.16`	`Beladona`	`you are getting that?`
`21:10.57`	`krka`	`yeah`
`21:11.01`	`krka`	`i found the fix now though`
`21:11.18`	`krka`	`now to fix fullscreen at correct size`
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`21:14.12`	`krka`	`is the auth server slow or what?`
`21:14.22`	`Beladona`	`sometimes`
`21:14.29`	`krka`	`:/`
`21:15.34`	`Natasem`	`this is funny, But i guess you may have to know someone white trash to enjoy it http://www.toonedin.com/movies/WhiteTrashXmas.html`
`21:15.43`	`Natasem`	`ya alot of folks haveing same issue`
`21:15.56`	`krka`	`my level 49 is still intact! yay`
`21:18.27`	`Osagasu`	`Nata, that's just wrong`
`21:18.32`	`Osagasu`	`I love it`
`21:18.43`	`Natasem`	`lol`
`21:18.57`	`Natasem`	`it brings a tear to my eye`
`21:19.02`	`Natasem`	`remids me of home`
`21:19.40`	`Beladona`	`hmm`
`21:19.56`	`Beladona`	`I went and screwed with the way I had it installed, and now I have no sound`
`21:20.17`	`Kaelten\|AFK`	`Just want to give a heads up to anyone who may be interested, wowace.com is going to be moving servers soon so the site may be down for a short amount of time.`
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`21:21.20`	`kremonte`	`well that was wierd`
`21:21.23`	`ScytheBlade1`	`?`
`21:21.27`	`kremonte`	`i kept getting disconnected as soon as i got onto freenode`
`21:21.49`	`ScytheBlade1`	`They're having issues with bots`
`21:22.05`	`kremonte`	`wasn't there another server i could connect to? =X`
`21:22.17`	`ScytheBlade1`	`zelazny.freenode.net`
`21:26.21`	`kremonte`	`grr`
`21:26.26`	`kremonte`	`how do i make query windows show in irssi`
`21:26.43`	`kremonte`	`oh, alt`
`21:29.25`	`krka`	`damn, that fix didn't help`
`21:29.29`	`krka`	`i want to be able to click on stuff`
`21:31.51`	`krka`	`yay!`
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`21:44.37`	`Beladona`	`back soon, going home`
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`22:03.01`	`Guillotine`	`http://badgerbadgerbadger.com/`
`22:03.03`	`Guillotine`	`hehe`
`22:03.21`	`Guillotine`	`thats the new big idea of what the alliance race is :/`
`22:03.39`	`SP\|Sorren`	`ooooh its a snaaaake~`
`22:03.50`	`SP\|Sorren`	`i like the harry potter version`
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`22:41.34`	`Natasem`	`theres a HP version?`
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`22:54.02`	`Tem`	`Where did KalrKFI go?`
`22:54.08`	`Tem`	`he's _always_ here`
`22:54.17`	`Cide`	`hehe, not right now`
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`22:54.41`	`Tain`	`I heard he was in a near fatal accident with a SeaHook.`
`22:57.10`	`MoonWolf`	`there was ?`
`22:57.12`	`MoonWolf`	`what happend ?`
`22:58.29`	`Ktron`	`lol`
`22:58.35`	`Guillotine`	`that was a joke moonwolf`
`22:58.37`	`Guillotine`	`lol`
`22:58.51`	`MoonWolf`	`that as sarcasm`
`22:58.52`	`MoonWolf`	`lol`
`22:58.56`	`MoonWolf`	`was*`
`22:59.42`	`Natasem`	`isn't seahook a library hoock for WoW mods?`
`22:59.52`	`Ktron`	`yeah ;)`
`23:00.01`	`Natasem`	`ooooo i am learning`
`23:00.10`	`Natasem`	`now i know why my brain hurts`
`23:00.31`	`Guillotine`	`haha`
`23:01.24`	`MoonWolf`	`also look at this.`
`23:01.25`	`MoonWolf`	`http://www.youtube.com//player.swf?video_id=yJQdMBG9ZeY&l=203`
`23:01.37`	`Guillotine`	`SFW?`
`23:02.06`	`Guillotine`	`moonwolf, is it SFW?`
`23:02.07`	`ScytheBlade1`	`shockwave flash`
`23:02.17`	`MoonWolf`	`i think it is.`
`23:02.17`	`Guillotine`	`no. SFW = Safe For Work`
`23:02.19`	`Guillotine`	`lol`
`23:02.22`	`ScytheBlade1`	`oh lol`
`23:02.30`	`MoonWolf`	`its a music video, so yeah kinda SFQ`
`23:02.31`	`ScytheBlade1`	`yeah I just can't read`
`23:02.36`	`MoonWolf`	`SFW*`
`23:02.45`	`Guillotine`	`just as long as it isn't innapropriate :)`
`23:02.58`	`groll`	`hmm what is it one writes in the meta to refresh a page?`
`23:02.59`	`MoonWolf`	`not really`
`23:03.03`	`MoonWolf`	`only WEIRD`
`23:03.06`	`groll`	`or any other way to do it`
`23:03.06`	`MoonWolf`	`and japanese.`
`23:03.26`	`Guillotine`	`lol. that is wierd...`
`23:04.35`	`Ktron`	`I think it's time for another GIMPing of WoW`
`23:04.44`	`Guillotine`	`<3 GIMP`
`23:04.55`	`Guillotine`	`if you mean Graphic and image manipulation program`
`23:05.17`	`Ktron`	`yep`
`23:05.18`	`Guillotine`	`GIMP > Photoshop`
`23:05.27`	`Guillotine`	`so what are you going to gimp?`
`23:06.16`	`MoonWolf`	`gimp owns simply because of the name.`
`23:06.43`	`Guillotine`	`ya. that too`
`23:06.51`	`Guillotine`	`and b/c its free`
`23:06.55`	`Guillotine`	`and the mouse gy`
`23:06.58`	`Guillotine`	`guy*`
`23:08.18`	`groll`	`can someone try http://www.amnesiaguild.com and see if it works`
`23:09.27`	`groll`	`doh!`
`23:09.34`	`groll`	`nevermind`
`23:09.53`	`Guillotine`	`it doesnt work`
`23:09.58`	`Guillotine`	`oh`
`23:09.59`	`groll`	`ya and i know why heh`
`23:10.13`	`groll`	`got the wrong db path :P`
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`23:14.24`	`Beladona`	`woo`
`23:15.00`	`futrtrubl`	`anyone know a good source of statusbar and bar textures? I want to add more to BEB`
`23:16.17`	`Beladona`	`could make some more`
`23:16.49`	`Guillotine`	`theres lots on www.discordmods.com`
`23:17.00`	`Guillotine`	`ugh. i just joined #math. too many smart people`
`23:17.19`	`futrtrubl`	`I have not the skillz. ;'] Yup looking through the custom stuff there`
`23:17.45`	`Beladona`	`gaim on windows sucks. gaim on linux, pwns`
`23:17.49`	`Cairenn`	`hahahaha Cide`
`23:17.49`	`Beladona`	`me likes`
`23:18.03`	`Cide`	`do you like my alternate slash command Cairenn? :)`
`23:18.08`	`Cairenn`	`ahahhahahahaah`
`23:18.18`	`Cairenn`	`you knew exactly what I was laughing at`
`23:18.20`	`groll`	`Beladona u knew php right?`
`23:18.26`	`Beladona`	`no`
`23:18.28`	`Beladona`	`I know php`
`23:18.30`	`Beladona`	`=P`
`23:18.33`	`groll`	`yaya ;O`
`23:18.36`	`Cide`	`hehe, I thought it was fitting`
`23:18.59`	`groll`	`ok i got a site that i moved from my other host and created a new db etc.. a nuke evo site if u know what it is.. but it dont seem to be able to load :S`
`23:19.16`	`Beladona`	`any errors?`
`23:19.20`	`groll`	`the db stuff should be correct but would i need to re chmod the files or such?`
`23:19.29`	`groll`	`no just never ending loading heh`
`23:19.42`	`groll`	`thing is dkp.amnesiaguild.com works but not www.amnesiaguild.com`
`23:19.44`	`Beladona`	`if there are files to chmod in the base install, then yes`
`23:19.54`	`groll`	`aah oke me fixing`
`23:22.43`	`Ktron`	`http://img473.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thenewracerevealed0wm.jpg <--- check it`
`23:23.45`	`Beladona`	`haha`
`23:25.15`	`Cairenn`	`gaha; cat ooon ltybord`
`23:25.58`	`Tem`	`Cairenn: hmm?`
`23:26.02`	`Tem`	`What are you laughing about?`
`23:26.12`	`Cairenn`	`http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=281605&p=1&tmp=1#post281605`
`23:28.01`	`Guillotine`	`haha cide. thats hilarious`
`23:28.05`	`Guillotine`	`<3`
`23:28.08`	`Cide`	`:)`
`23:30.11`	`Beladona`	`nice`
`23:30.14`	`groll`	`meeeh whyyyy is it so darn slow??? :S`
`23:30.17`	`Beladona`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:30.29`	`groll`	`Beladona how fast does it load for you? www.amnesiaguild.com`
`23:30.41`	`Tem`	`hahahahah!`
`23:30.42`	`Beladona`	`it isn't`
`23:30.45`	`Tem`	`lol!`
`23:30.45`	`Beladona`	`loading at all`
`23:30.53`	`groll`	`it is.. just incredibly slow`
`23:30.58`	`Tem`	`Cide: that's awesome`
`23:31.03`	`Beladona`	`does it pull from a database?`
`23:31.03`	`Cide`	`hehe`
`23:31.05`	`Cairenn`	`grin`
`23:31.17`	`Tem`	`so doesn anyone know where the UIFrameFlash function is defined?`
`23:31.44`	`Tem`	`And a second question, what is the easiest way to to find in multiple files?`
`23:31.54`	`Tem`	`like say an entire folder`
`23:32.04`	`Cide`	`I use SCiTe or what the hell it's called`
`23:32.14`	`Cide`	`has "Find in Files"`
`23:32.47`	`Beladona`	`I can usually find that stuff quickly, but I haven't set up my respoitory on this system yet`
`23:32.49`	`Cide`	`which has a pattern match for file name, searches all files that match the file name pattern in the given directory and subdirectories`
`23:33.12`	`Beladona`	`have you checked the UIPanelTemplates?`
`23:34.04`	`Cide`	`I couldn't find any definition of it in my framexml files`
`23:34.31`	`Cide`	`might be because the file has never been updated, so it hasn't been pulled from the patch.mpq, and only resides in interface.mpq (has happened to me a few times)`
`23:34.51`	`Cide`	`UIParent.lua defines the UIFrameFlash function though`
`23:35.51`	`Tem`	`Thanks`
`23:36.13`	`Tem`	`I wonder if grep would do what I need`
`23:36.45`	`Beladona`	`are you trying to create your own flashing animation?`
`23:37.23`	`Tem`	`I just found out that it existed`
`23:37.30`	`Tem`	`and I want to see how they defined it`
`23:37.51`	`Beladona`	`futr and I experimented a lot with ways to do that`
`23:38.01`	`Beladona`	`we both managed to come up with a pretty decent method`
`23:40.28`	`Tem`	`I'm thinking about writing a simple DPS commander`
`23:41.03`	`Tem`	`it's basically just a button that appears on screen and graphically notifies the user how they should be attacking`
`23:41.12`	`Tem`	`Red -- No DPS`
`23:41.18`	`Tem`	`Yellow - Light DPS`
`23:41.23`	`Tem`	`Gree -- High DPS`
`23:41.30`	`Tem`	`er, Green*`
`23:42.04`	`Tem`	`and I was thinking of using UIFrameFlash or my own animation for transitions`
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`23:46.48`	`Tem`	`something tells me they wrote UIParent.lua first`
`23:46.56`	`Tem`	`like before they knew lua`
`23:49.26`	`futrtrubl`	`Cairren, did I forget to upload a file fow BEB 0.84?`
`23:49.31`	`Tem`	`I wonder how slouken would respond to rewrites of frameXML files`
`23:49.32`	`Cairenn`	`yup`
`23:49.37`	`futrtrubl`	`damn`
`23:49.43`	`Cairenn`	`haven't seen any uploads from you`
`23:50.07`	`Cide`	`Tem: I don't think they would accept any rewrites from other people`
`23:50.09`	`futrtrubl`	`now it won't let me since I already updated the version number`
`23:50.17`	`Cide`	`I know I almost never do, just because it's hard to ensure compatibility`
`23:50.22`	`Tem`	`It's so tempting`
`23:50.31`	`Tem`	`so so tempting`
`23:50.39`	`Cairenn`	`futrtrubl: stick an "a" on the end of it :p`
`23:50.47`	`Cairenn`	`v?.?a`
`23:50.55`	`Tem`	`Especially when I see things like using a while to loop through a table instead of a generic for`
`23:51.03`	`Tem`	`or "return nil"`
`23:51.06`	`futrtrubl`	`people will be so confused ;']`
`23:51.09`	`Cide`	`while FLASHFRAMES[index] do!`
`23:51.48`	`Tem`	`if( not variable ) then variable = defaulevalue end`
`23:52.12`	`Cide`	`hehe ya`
`23:52.24`	`Tem`	`frame.finishedArg1 ... frame.finishedArg4`
`23:52.26`	`Cairenn`	`no, because after you upload it with a, you can then go in and delete the old one, then change the version number to get rid of the a :p`
`23:52.36`	`futrtrubl`	`ahhhh`
`23:52.40`	`futrtrubl`	`done`
`23:52.52`	`Tem`	`that's when an unpack would have been useful`
`23:52.58`	`krka`	`ooh... playing as a mage is pretty fun!`
`23:53.32`	`Cairenn`	`approved, go make your changes`
`23:53.33`	`futrtrubl`	`variable = variable or defaultvalue`
`23:53.37`	`futrtrubl`	`roger`
`23:54.43`	`Tem`	`I'm tempted to write a library for frame animations`
`23:55.05`	`krka`	`hmm... how well written is the default ui?`
`23:55.08`	`krka`	`like the action buttons`
`23:55.09`	`Cide`	`and then use it to reanimate WoWTrevor!`
`23:55.15`	`krka`	`isn't there like one onupdate per button?`
`23:55.16`	`Tem`	`haha`
`23:55.36`	`Tem`	`the action buttons make me sick`
`23:55.40`	`futrtrubl`	`that look right Cairenn?`
`23:55.42`	`Tem`	`very very sick`
`23:58.07`	`Tem`	`Rofl!`
`23:58.26`	`Tem`	`The further I go into "UIParent.lua" the more it looks like "myFirstAddon.lua"`
`23:58.35`	`Tem`	`this is pretty funny`
`23:58.39`	`kremonte`	`rofl`
`23:58.40`	`Cide`	`see CT_BagMod for fun stuff`
`23:58.54`	`kremonte`	`now i want to mount my WoW partition and look at it while i break my computer :L`
`23:59.14`	`Cide`	`hahaha, I like it already`
`23:59.27`	`Cide`	`line 28: if ( not text or strlen(text) == 0 ) then text = ""; end`
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`23:59.38`	`kremonte`	`lmao`
`23:59.42`	`Cairenn`	`whatever that last message to me was, I didn't see it`
`23:59.59`	`futrtrubl`	`that look right Cairenn?`

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