| 00:00.05 | Cide | if ( this:GetParent():IsVisible() == 1 ) then <-- ... |
| 00:00.48 | Cairenn | what do you mean by "look right" futrtrubl? |
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| 00:01.18 | futrtrubl | I hate how they do Checkbuttons, they make me have to do mysavedvar = not (not this:GetChecked()) |
| 00:01.27 | futrtrubl | if it looked fixed Cair |
| 00:01.36 | Cairenn | seems fine to me |
| 00:01.40 | futrtrubl | great |
| 00:01.49 | Cide | why do you have to do that futrtrubl? |
| 00:02.10 | futrtrubl | it returns nil or true, and nils won't save |
| 00:02.19 | krka | why not just this:GetChecked ~= nil? |
| 00:02.23 | Tem | futrtrubl: you don't want to do that |
| 00:02.31 | futrtrubl | maybe nil or 1, can't remember |
| 00:02.41 | Cide | well, if it isn't saved, it would call SetChecked(nil) which would still result in the same as SetChecked(false) |
| 00:02.43 | Tem | not always returns a bol |
| 00:02.46 | Tem | bool* |
| 00:02.54 | Tem | nil is better in savedvars because it makes the file smaller |
| 00:02.55 | krka | so does ~? |
| 00:02.58 | krka | ~= |
| 00:03.00 | krka | afaik |
| 00:03.09 | Tem | yeah I think so |
| 00:03.16 | krka | sometimes you want true/false/nil though |
| 00:03.18 | futrtrubl | krka, that's a comparison not an assignment I thought |
| 00:03.26 | Cide | ya krka |
| 00:03.34 | krka | local a = b ~= c won't work? |
| 00:03.49 | futrtrubl | yeah, I don't want nils as that makes me try to assign a default value |
| 00:03.55 | Cide | it works krka |
| 00:04.06 | Cide | futrtrubl: ah, I guess |
| 00:04.22 | Tem | oh |
| 00:04.31 | cladhaire | set your defaults. |
| 00:04.33 | krka | yes, nil needs to be the same thing as "i don't recognize this option, do the default" |
| 00:04.39 | Cide | I worked around that by using the opposite of the variable |
| 00:04.44 | cladhaire | then true if the default isn't true |
| 00:04.44 | Tem | aye me too |
| 00:04.46 | krka | like if you're upgrading your addon and have old config |
| 00:04.49 | cladhaire | false if the default isn't false |
| 00:04.52 | cladhaire | and nil for the default |
| 00:04.56 | cladhaire | still saves ton of space |
| 00:05.01 | Cide | SetChecked(not variable) instead of SetChecked(variable) depending on the default value |
| 00:05.54 | krka | time to sleep |
| 00:05.58 | Cide | night :) |
| 00:06.04 | futrtrubl | I also dislike functions that return 0 or 1, they should have just returned bools |
| 00:06.38 | Cide | I like true/nil for the reasoning above |
| 00:07.07 | futrtrubl | true/nil would have been better than 0/1 for sure |
| 00:07.12 | Cide | ya |
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| 00:07.52 | Cide | anyone good at (my)sql btw? |
| 00:08.03 | cladhaire | yes |
| 00:08.40 | cladhaire | whats up Cide? |
| 00:09.06 | Cide | I'm trying to copy a record, and instead of using a select query to get the data, and then an insert query to insert all the data by looping through all the fields |
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| 00:09.21 | Cide | I found that you can use insert into tbl select * from tbl where id = X |
| 00:09.26 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 00:09.31 | Cide | thing is, I would want to do that but change one of the fields |
| 00:09.42 | cladhaire | and its just one row? |
| 00:09.57 | Natasem | lol http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3447 |
| 00:10.00 | cladhaire | i'd do two queries.. just to save your sanity.. do the insert into tbl select * from tbl where id = X then |
| 00:10.02 | Cide | ya, so I want to pull all the fields from record X but one, and then copy them and insert a new value for the one record |
| 00:10.11 | cladhaire | update tbl set column = (select column from tbl where id = x) |
| 00:10.33 | Cide | was thinking about that, but I hoped there was an easier way :) thanks though, I'll use that |
| 00:10.40 | cladhaire | you could do it in one query |
| 00:10.43 | cladhaire | but that's the easier way =) |
| 00:10.44 | Cide | or a better way rather, that's probably the easiest way |
| 00:10.58 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 00:11.15 | cladhaire | oddly SQL is very well structured and straightforward |
| 00:11.20 | cladhaire | all the speed comes in query optimization :P |
| 00:11.38 | Cide | hehe ya |
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| 00:11.53 | Cide | you can get very different performance measurements from two queries that do the same thing in different ways |
| 00:12.00 | cladhaire | yep =) |
| 00:19.08 | Cide | mysql is pretty quick though |
| 00:19.28 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 00:19.28 | Ktron | ChatCast is a neat idea |
| 00:19.33 | cladhaire | and 5.0 brings it up to standard |
| 00:19.38 | cladhaire | with triggers, etc. |
| 00:19.47 | Cide | I just updated 6700 rows in less than one second |
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| 00:20.30 | cladhaire | =P |
| 00:20.37 | Cide | thought it would take longer at least |
| 00:21.42 | cladhaire | inserts are expensive |
| 00:21.55 | Cide | I would assume so |
| 00:22.07 | Cide | since there is a lot more going on than just adding a line in a text file, hehe |
| 00:22.47 | cladhaire | I should eat something.. perhaps spaghetti |
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| 00:23.39 | Tem | I have to drive an hour to pick up some stuff |
| 00:23.44 | Cide | ouch, fun |
| 00:23.55 | Tem | I keep putting off leaving |
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| 00:24.46 | Esamynn | evening all |
| 00:25.15 | Cide | hey Esamynn |
| 00:26.03 | Esamynn | anyone active that is familiar with the Guild API behaviour? |
| 00:26.26 | Esamynn | I'm having a difficulty with GetGuildRosterInfo |
| 00:27.23 | Cide | how come? |
| 00:27.40 | Cide | or well, what's the problem? |
| 00:28.02 | Esamynn | I have access to the officer notes, but it is having an annoying tendency to return blank officer notes for all players until I call GuildRoster a few times |
| 00:28.36 | Cide | a few times, or until the GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE event fires (I believe that is the name of it anyway)? |
| 00:28.51 | Cide | you only have the info after that event |
| 00:28.53 | Esamynn | I'm definately waiting for the event to fire |
| 00:29.16 | Cide | that's weird, since as far as I know, the GuildRoster call only requests the info, it doesn't do any processing other than that |
| 00:29.48 | Esamynn | ok, so its not something that is known that I just haven't heard of, or at least you haven't heard of such a problem |
| 00:29.57 | Esamynn | I think I will go back and double check everything then |
| 00:30.36 | Cide | not as far as I know anyway.. |
| 00:30.49 | Esamynn | The wierd part is that its only the officer note return value that isn't coming back properly, i'm getting data for all of the other fields |
| 00:31.23 | Cide | hey cladhaire, mind helping me with another query? :) |
| 00:31.42 | Cide | Esamynn: could it be because it isn't aware that you have access to it at first? |
| 00:31.43 | Tem | Esamynn: the way that stuff works is that GuilRoster asks for the info from the server |
| 00:31.55 | Tem | Esamynn: you don't get the info immediately |
| 00:32.10 | Tem | Esamynn: the GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE event signifies that you have the data |
| 00:32.48 | Tem | so if you need to read officer notes, you need to call GuildRoster and scan the notes AFTER the GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE event |
| 00:32.57 | Cide | he/she does |
| 00:32.59 | Cide | read up :) |
| 00:33.03 | Tem | sorry |
| 00:33.20 | Esamynn | I'm getting data for all the other fields, including the player notes, that is the odd part |
| 00:33.20 | Tem | I dunno |
| 00:33.21 | Cide | haha, don't say sorry to me, and I doubt it's a problem that you're being helpful |
| 00:33.51 | Tem | I'm going to head out... make that hour drive |
| 00:33.57 | Esamynn | have fun |
| 00:33.58 | Tem | good luck with that |
| 00:34.05 | Tem | let me know if you figure out the problem |
| 00:34.21 | Tem | it might help me fix a bug in something I have that does similar things |
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| 00:40.17 | Esamynn | ok, here is another one, well a couple actually, first, anyone know how to make a ScrollingMessageFrame so that you can click things under it, like you can do with the 6 default chatframes? |
| 00:42.39 | Cide | is EnableMouse set on the frame? |
| 00:42.46 | Cide | try Frame:EnableMouse(nil) |
| 00:48.00 | Esamynn | hmm, the XML tag has enableMouse="false" but that doesn't work |
| 00:49.03 | Esamynn | the other question was, setting movable="false" in the xml should make it so I cannot drag the frame around with the mouse, correct? |
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| 00:49.08 | Cide | yes |
| 00:50.21 | Esamynn | hmm, something wierd is going on then, i've got resizable="true" and movable="false" but I can still drag the frame around, anyways, thanks for the answers, its likely something thats conflicting with it |
| 00:51.17 | Cide | try setting resizable to false |
| 00:51.25 | Esamynn | tried that |
| 00:51.27 | Cide | also, do you have setAllPoints="true" in the xml? |
| 00:51.49 | Cide | <setAllPoints="true"/> I believe it is |
| 00:51.54 | Cide | if so, remove that |
| 00:52.53 | Esamynn | ok, i'll double check that, wat does setAllPoints do btw? |
| 00:52.57 | Esamynn | what* |
| 00:54.05 | Cide | I'm not actually sure, but it allowed me to drag the frame without having to call StartMoving |
| 00:54.41 | Esamynn | interesting, ok, thanks Cide, I'll be back later |
| 00:54.48 | Cide | actually |
| 00:54.58 | Cide | it's not setAllPoints="true" |
| 00:55.06 | Cide | it's <TitleRegion setAllPoints="true"/> that does it |
| 00:55.14 | Esamynn | oh, heh |
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| 00:55.37 | Cide | if you have it, try removing it |
| 00:56.29 | Esamynn | ok, will do, i'm going to have to dig through the xml code a bit more carefully, I really cut/pasted most of the FloatingChatFrameTemplate out of the default and now i'm playing with it ;) |
| 00:57.20 | Esamynn | thanks again |
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| 00:58.20 | Cide | you're welcome |
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| 01:11.32 | Guillotine | omg. i was just running to burning steppes from thorium point and I went and pressed my old key binding for auto-travel |
| 01:17.33 | Cide | I never bothered with that |
| 01:17.42 | Cide | I sit in org and code, or do MC/BWL :P |
| 01:18.07 | Tain | I never saw Autotravel |
| 01:24.58 | norganna | autotravel was great for making a bot... |
| 01:26.29 | Tain | Ah, WoWSharp was better for making a bot. :) |
| 01:28.12 | norganna | nah - i munged together autotravel, mobhealth and onehitwonder together with a bit of custom logic code. all you needed was to feed it keypresses and go along every so often and loot the dead mobs. |
| 01:28.49 | norganna | it was cool, but a pain in the ass to run it. |
| 01:29.40 | norganna | this was like back in the WoW 1.3.x patch era tho. |
| 01:29.50 | norganna | dunno if it'd still be possible |
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| 01:37.36 | Tain | A lot of things are possible still using hardware devices that send keypresses. |
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| 01:47.48 | Cide | weak, mysql is being stupid now |
| 01:47.59 | cladhaire | whats it doing? |
| 01:48.13 | Cide | the INSERT INTO tbl SELECT ... syntax |
| 01:48.22 | Cide | it doesn't support selecting from the same table as you're inserting into |
| 01:48.32 | cladhaire | nope, have to copy to a temp table |
| 01:48.37 | Cide | that's weak |
| 01:48.48 | Cide | so I went from three queries to... 5? |
| 01:49.13 | Cide | one query turns into: copy to temp table, copy from temp table, delete from temp table (preferred? or should I leave it?) |
| 01:50.12 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 01:50.16 | cladhaire | never tried to do what you're doing =) |
| 01:50.25 | cladhaire | but is it a one-time query |
| 01:50.40 | Cide | what do you mean? |
| 01:51.35 | cladhaire | is this something going into an applicatino.. or is it a matterof .. you need to do it once? |
| 01:52.29 | Cide | I'm having a webpage where the user submits stuff, and I review it before I add it to the database |
| 01:52.53 | Cide | so it will execute whenever I accept a record |
| 01:52.53 | cladhaire | k.. why do you need to do an insert from the same table? |
| 01:53.05 | Cide | because I'm duplicating the data but changing some values slightly |
| 01:53.20 | cladhaire | why are you duplicating it.. why not just chage the columns? |
| 01:53.27 | cladhaire | (i'm big on database design, so its tough for me not to think abou tit) |
| 01:53.45 | Cide | because I need both records :) |
| 01:53.58 | Cide | it's one "base" record, and then users submit variations on the base one |
| 01:54.14 | Cide | and it has to store all variations |
| 01:54.30 | cladhaire | do you ever need to go back to a previous revision.. or just have the history |
| 01:54.40 | Cide | what do you mean? |
| 01:54.58 | Cide | I could have the alternative records in a separate table, but it would make searches more complex |
| 01:55.47 | cladhaire | hrm.. its tough to visualize.. but i'll go with it. |
| 01:55.54 | cladhaire | multiple queries aren't really a horrible problem |
| 01:56.05 | cladhaire | unless you're doing them as often as an OnUpdate =) |
| 01:56.14 | Cide | no, only on my request |
| 01:56.22 | cladhaire | for something like a one time, user-activated request.. be as dirty as you need to be to make it work =) |
| 01:56.40 | Cide | well, right now it's more the fact that it copies the auto_increment ID.. which I have no idea why it does |
| 01:56.55 | cladhaire | is it set to unique? |
| 01:57.11 | Cide | it's set to primary key |
| 01:57.35 | Cide | which I believe gives it the unique characteristics as well? |
| 01:57.46 | cladhaire | it should |
| 01:57.47 | cladhaire | hrm |
| 01:59.48 | Cide | can I do like |
| 01:59.58 | Cide | SELECT <all but field "ID">? |
| 02:00.17 | Cide | SELECT not ID would be sweet :P |
| 02:00.19 | cladhaire | yeah just list the columns |
| 02:00.34 | Cide | ya, but there are like 106 of them, it looks ugly :P |
| 02:00.39 | cladhaire | select name, user, password |
| 02:00.40 | cladhaire | oh |
| 02:00.40 | cladhaire | haha |
| 02:00.41 | cladhaire | well |
| 02:00.46 | cladhaire | not much of a choce there |
| 02:00.51 | Cide | weak |
| 02:01.15 | Cide | oh well, at least they are named identically |
| 02:01.18 | cladhaire | :P |
| 02:01.21 | cladhaire | 106 columns? |
| 02:01.29 | cladhaire | i bet your table isn't in 3NF =) |
| 02:01.31 | Cide | 115 actually |
| 02:01.36 | Cide | 3NF? |
| 02:01.40 | cladhaire | third normal form |
| 02:01.46 | Cide | probably not |
| 02:01.49 | cladhaire | =) |
| 02:02.03 | cladhaire | lets play a game.. explain what you're trying to do.. and i'll give you a databse structure =) |
| 02:02.04 | Cide | I'm not very experienced with database design as you probably notice |
| 02:02.14 | cladhaire | hehe |
| 02:02.58 | Cide | well there isn't much choice as to how that database should look, I'm importing a CSV file into sql, and I need all of the values it holds |
| 02:03.08 | Cide | and it holds 115 values per record |
| 02:03.29 | cladhaire | well we can manipulate the data once its there. |
| 02:03.32 | cladhaire | hrm. |
| 02:03.55 | cladhaire | You only have one table? |
| 02:04.08 | Cide | for those records? yes |
| 02:04.25 | groll | hmm i wonder if this is what i will turn into if i dont get a job soon O_o http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/numa.php |
| 02:04.27 | cladhaire | what do the records describe? |
| 02:04.38 | cladhaire | (sorry i'm asking so many questions) |
| 02:04.56 | Cide | items in wow, no problem, I don't mind you helping me :) |
| 02:05.01 | Cide | groll: most likely |
| 02:05.10 | cladhaire | and what are the columns? |
| 02:05.13 | cladhaire | just a sampling =) |
| 02:05.23 | Cide | what they hold, or the names of them? |
| 02:05.38 | groll | cide :p |
| 02:05.53 | cladhaire | either |
| 02:06.23 | Cide | well, from i_0 to i_115 (so 116 columns actually), and they hold different item related data (armor, item level, item name) |
| 02:07.35 | cladhaire | k |
| 02:08.02 | cladhaire | and what does the user modify that you need to approve? |
| 02:08.42 | Cide | random property id, which isn't submitted through the normal means |
| 02:09.14 | cladhaire | ok |
| 02:09.30 | cladhaire | there are a few different ways you could do that.. but I'm gonna keep with what you have so we dont need to mess much |
| 02:09.47 | cladhaire | it sounds like you're duplicating a lot of data that will never change tho |
| 02:10.00 | cladhaire | which tends to hurt databases |
| 02:10.46 | Cide | well yeah, only that one field will change really.. do you think I should have a separate field instead? |
| 02:10.51 | Cide | err, separate database |
| 02:10.56 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 02:11.01 | cladhaire | a seperate table, that contains two columns |
| 02:11.04 | cladhaire | the property id |
| 02:11.11 | cladhaire | and theunique id of the row |
| 02:11.15 | Cide | might go with that, but I might have to rewrite some stuff, let me see |
| 02:11.29 | cladhaire | it makes your approval one query |
| 02:11.30 | cladhaire | in theory |
| 02:11.54 | Fanook | wouldnt the second table need 3 cols? row id, property id, and new value? |
| 02:12.13 | cladhaire | yep |
| 02:12.15 | cladhaire | i always forget that |
| 02:12.24 | cladhaire | cause i alwayse have a primary key auto increment column =) |
| 02:12.28 | cladhaire | i dont use composite keys |
| 02:13.05 | Cide | same |
| 02:13.06 | Fanook | course that assumes each row only has one update per property |
| 02:13.14 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 02:13.31 | Cide | the item:property combination will be unique |
| 02:13.39 | Cide | item itself and property itself obviously won't |
| 02:14.41 | Fanook | right, but remember that using item+property as a key means you can only save one update per combination |
| 02:15.37 | Cide | yes, but I won't need duplicate records of the same item+property combination.. but wouldn't it be faster to use an auto_increment field as the ID, since you wouldn't have to mess with strings to concatenate the item and property? |
| 02:15.37 | cladhaire | i'd give it a unique column either way |
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| 02:17.13 | Fanook | it's not a concat, it's using 2 columns combined as the key |
| 02:17.21 | Cide | still, what is faster? |
| 02:17.38 | Fanook | but yeah, it is better to use an autoincrement as the key and just add a where to the select |
| 02:17.54 | Fanook | as to faster, you'll just have to test |
| 02:18.04 | Fanook | cause i'm not entirely sure :) |
| 02:18.16 | Cide | hehe |
| 02:27.22 | Legorol | g'evening |
| 02:27.30 | Legorol | so, what do you all think about the reopened test server |
| 02:27.33 | Legorol | PR ploy? ;-) |
| 02:27.50 | Legorol | carrying on from earlier discussion, i think they went with best of both worlds: |
| 02:28.02 | Legorol | they didn't release patch on live to avoid problems during christmas, |
| 02:28.16 | Legorol | but they put the new content up on the test server to retain customers who want to play it |
| 02:28.35 | Legorol | i think that's pretty clever |
| 02:28.52 | Guillotine | does anyone feel like making an addon that will de-target your target if they are afflicted by sleep (from green whelp armor)? or linking me to one that already exists? |
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| 02:40.06 | norganna | heheh - there's a guys standing beside me on the ah bridge called cide :) |
| 02:40.19 | norganna | Knight Lieutennant Cide |
| 02:40.38 | Cide | heh, I chose another name :) |
| 02:41.35 | norganna | me too :) |
| 02:42.17 | Cide | we're so smart :P |
| 02:45.30 | pagefault | the alliance needs some better pvp rank names if you ask me |
| 02:45.40 | Depherios | lol |
| 02:46.34 | pagefault | i'd rather be a blood guard than knight-capatain |
| 02:46.37 | pagefault | err captain |
| 02:47.14 | pagefault | should be like Orc Smasher |
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| 03:03.19 | cladhaire | WB Kael |
| 03:03.25 | Kaelten | hey clad |
| 03:03.38 | cladhaire | <-- i was sitting here.. and I had that queued up and ready to go |
| 03:03.38 | Kaelten | I hope this server move goes smothly. |
| 03:03.42 | cladhaire | =) |
| 03:03.46 | cladhaire | it'll be fine |
| 03:03.56 | Kaelten | ya, should be anyway <g> |
| 03:07.01 | Kaelten | I'm kinda curious as to how much of a speed improvement or slowdown we will experiance |
| 03:07.32 | cladhaire | what are we moving from and to? |
| 03:07.44 | cladhaire | bbias.. dog |
| 03:07.52 | Kaelten | a shared account on a good server to a vps on a good server |
| 03:08.05 | Kaelten | on the vps we are guarenteed a certain amount of ram and processing power |
| 03:10.22 | Kaelten | so I'm not sure if we'll actually get any speed gains out of it because we aren't guarenteed that much ram and processing |
| 03:10.28 | Kaelten | if I want to pay more I can get more allocated though |
| 03:10.46 | cladhaire | *nod* |
| 03:12.08 | Tain | Just have to wait and see what happens. |
| 03:29.31 | Guillotine | so does this mean we won't have the ogaming bar? or will we still have that? |
| 03:32.34 | Kaelten | oh no I'm talking about wowace.com guillotine |
| 03:32.40 | Guillotine | oh. nm |
| 03:32.42 | Guillotine | hehe |
| 03:32.44 | Kaelten | I run that site independently of wowi |
| 03:32.56 | Kaelten | woot cheap computer upgrades for the win |
| 03:33.09 | Kaelten | I got my GF's POS dell doing 35 frames in IF |
| 03:33.47 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:33.49 | pagefault | what does it have in it? |
| 03:34.18 | Kaelten | well its a 2.2GHz centron |
| 03:34.29 | pagefault | eek |
| 03:34.31 | Nomad_Wanderer | What type of videocard? |
| 03:34.42 | Kaelten | was running onboard intel graphics |
| 03:34.52 | pagefault | 16 fps in org for me right now |
| 03:34.57 | Nomad_Wanderer | How much ram.. This sounds not feasible. |
| 03:35.15 | pagefault | the xmas stuff didn't help the lag |
| 03:35.17 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:35.18 | Kaelten | I put a GB of pc2700 ram in it for 80 dollars and a pci 5200 FX in it for 60 |
| 03:35.28 | Nomad_Wanderer | That will help :) |
| 03:35.34 | Kaelten | hehe, we got it up to 13 or 14 frames a second before the 5200 |
| 03:35.41 | Kaelten | its doing pretty well for a pci card |
| 03:35.50 | Kaelten | was able to bump up the graphics options too. |
| 03:36.09 | pagefault | WoW is too pretty with FSAA on |
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| 03:38.14 | pagefault | hehe |
| 03:39.09 | Kaelten | hehe, I need to play with my card some. my 6800 GT should be doing better. |
| 03:39.20 | Kaelten | I think I need to clean up my system |
| 03:40.04 | pagefault | I need a new system |
| 03:40.07 | pagefault | Video Card: ATi Radeon 9800 PRO |
| 03:40.09 | pagefault | showing it's age |
| 03:40.14 | pagefault | my brother is using a geforce 4 though |
| 03:40.18 | pagefault | and still plays mostly everything |
| 03:40.20 | pagefault | but at low detail |
| 03:40.32 | Kaelten | ya, my old system had a geforce 3 in it, was doing ok, but its age was showing as well |
| 03:40.46 | Kaelten | I got 17 fps on the geforce3 |
| 03:41.07 | Tain | I still have an original GeForce in my Linux system. |
| 03:41.09 | pagefault | thats not bad |
| 03:41.16 | pagefault | I get 30 fps on my 9000 in my laptop |
| 03:41.19 | pagefault | 1024x768 |
| 03:41.42 | Kaelten | I've gotten 100 on my new machine |
| 03:41.49 | Tain | By the way, let me just say that I abso-freakin-lutely love playing WoW in 1280x768 |
| 03:41.57 | pagefault | yeah I use 1280x1024 |
| 03:42.04 | Kaelten | I've been playing at 1600x1280 |
| 03:42.04 | pagefault | I could use a lower res but it just looks too good with 2x FSAA |
| 03:42.05 | pagefault | :) |
| 03:42.30 | pagefault | I should try a higher res |
| 03:42.39 | pagefault | might not be much slower |
| 03:42.58 | Kaelten | one of the biggest things I found is the sampling on the color depth |
| 03:43.00 | Codayus | I use 1856x1392. Lower resolutions seem to waste so much screen real estate... |
| 03:43.14 | pagefault | what size is your screen? |
| 03:43.23 | Kaelten | thats an odd screen size coday |
| 03:43.35 | pagefault | nah thats standard max res for some 19" |
| 03:43.49 | Codayus | It's a standard res... |
| 03:43.52 | Codayus | But not too common |
| 03:43.58 | pagefault | my 19" does 2048xsomething |
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| 03:44.05 | pagefault | but it's too low refresh |
| 03:44.07 | pagefault | and way too small |
| 03:44.09 | Codayus | 22" monitor. |
| 03:44.19 | pagefault | ah thats why |
| 03:44.21 | pagefault | 22" :P |
| 03:44.29 | Tain | Widescreen |
| 03:44.30 | Codayus | But it does this res at a very nice refresh rate and crisply. |
| 03:44.34 | Tain | Widescren is the way to go. |
| 03:44.41 | Codayus | It can go higher. |
| 03:44.55 | pagefault | yeah but I find all monitors, even CRT's have a sweet spot |
| 03:44.58 | pagefault | they look best at one res |
| 03:45.07 | Codayus | 2048x1536 is max. |
| 03:45.22 | Codayus | Indeed |
| 03:45.40 | Tain | Yeah there is usually in my experience a res that just looks best on crts between the resolution and refresh rate. |
| 03:45.41 | pagefault | I think that is max for SVGA anyway |
| 03:45.48 | pagefault | or whatever the standard is called for analog displays |
| 03:46.09 | Codayus | Yeah, I've got a CRT. Higher and it goes a bit...fuzzy. |
| 03:46.37 | Codayus | Not *horrible*, but... |
| 03:46.52 | Tain | I never bought into the LCD hype as "better" but goddamn I don't want to ever give up widescreen gaming now. |
| 03:47.06 | pagefault | LCD is almost there |
| 03:47.33 | pagefault | I mean for completely replacing CRT |
| 03:47.44 | pagefault | they just need to get the refresh rate issues out of the way |
| 03:48.31 | Codayus | For some stuff, the color accuracy isn't quite there... |
| 03:48.44 | Codayus | Graphic design stuff...fine for games though |
| 03:48.52 | pagefault | yeah that stuff too |
| 03:49.08 | Tain | They're getting there, it's really just a matter of time because no one's going to be making crts. |
| 03:49.40 | pagefault | it's weird plasma is still around |
| 03:49.45 | pagefault | I guess it's still cheaper than LCD |
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| 03:56.01 | Tain | It's just a natural evolution. Different technologies are cheaper, as better ones become less expensive the industry moves to it |
| 04:03.18 | Beladona | lcd is supposed to drop by 50% next year |
| 04:03.23 | Beladona | in price |
| 04:03.28 | Beladona | due to a new manufacturing process |
| 04:03.49 | Beladona | you should see large LCD televisions in the $500 price range |
| 04:04.44 | pagefault | haha |
| 04:04.50 | pagefault | I went afk for a second while I was guarding the mine in AB |
| 04:04.57 | pagefault | and my succubus had a rogue in seduction when I got back |
| 04:07.26 | Codayus | Heh |
| 04:10.31 | pagefault | improved succubus owns |
| 04:18.01 | Legorol | Ingenious: http://www.kidsprogramminglanguage.com/ |
| 04:18.09 | Legorol | Probably the perfect solution I was looking for |
| 04:18.43 | Tain | I was thinking of doing three different things tonight. |
| 04:18.46 | Tain | At least I got one. |
| 05:11.13 | Guillotine | OMG. mistwalk still hasn't been banned |
| 05:11.27 | Guillotine | how do you get away with running faster than an epic mount 24/7? |
| 05:11.27 | Ktron | ? |
| 05:12.02 | Guillotine | its a stupid 29 priest on our server that hacks |
| 05:12.02 | Ktron | really? heh |
| 05:12.02 | Guillotine | been doing it for weeks |
| 05:14.51 | Ktron | which server? |
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| 06:21.23 | Guillotine | ktron: Draenor |
| 06:22.41 | Ktron | ah |
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| 06:52.08 | pagefault | hey |
| 06:56.10 | Depherios | stupid WoW, allowing NPCs to properly have apostraphes in Orc spellcaster names... but not in MY Orc spellcaster's name |
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| 07:03.34 | pagefault | oh well |
| 07:03.36 | pagefault | :) |
| 07:03.50 | Depherios | eh, I named him Thurge |
| 07:04.00 | Depherios | it's like Thaumaturge.... but short |
| 07:05.19 | Depherios | and Misnomer and Benign (my usual favorite spellcaster/warlock names) don't sound like good Orcs XD |
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| 07:17.09 | Tem | rawr! |
| 07:24.24 | Guillotine | does anyone know the name of the frame with breath? |
| 07:28.33 | Kolth | CastTime has it |
| 07:28.41 | Kolth | I'd actually check but I'm heading out. |
| 07:29.07 | Cairenn | night Kolth |
| 07:29.08 | Kolth | Night? haha |
| 07:29.10 | Kolth | It's early morning. |
| 07:29.23 | Cairenn | okay, "later Kolth" ;) |
| 07:29.32 | Kolth | Sorry. That's misleading. |
| 07:29.49 | Cairenn | naw, it wasn't, I just forgot |
| 07:29.51 | Kolth | I'm just off to run some errands. G'bye! |
| 07:30.01 | Kolth | It's 10:30PM here. |
| 07:30.16 | Cairenn | 2:30am here |
| 07:33.11 | Tem | Since we're all sharing, it's 1:30 here |
| 07:33.17 | Guillotine | 11:30 pm here |
| 07:33.31 | Guillotine | wow. there must be a strange time anomoly |
| 07:33.36 | Guillotine | either that or time zones really do exist... |
| 07:33.43 | Guillotine | and I though they were just a myth |
| 07:34.30 | Tem | lol Cairenn |
| 07:34.38 | Ktron | heh, first time I've heard MoveAnything mentioned on General |
| 07:36.47 | Tem | hehe |
| 07:38.48 | Guillotine | hey cair, it seems like WoWI doesn't have many simple addons... is that b/c you'd rather not have them or just don't get many? I made a simple one that deselects my target when their afflicted by my Green Whelp Armor. should i submit that? |
| 07:39.03 | Cairenn | please do |
| 07:39.11 | Guillotine | ok :) |
| 07:39.50 | futrtrubl | Want me to submit RememberMyGoddamnNameplates? |
| 07:40.01 | Tem | lol! |
| 07:40.05 | Cairenn | without one word in the name, sure |
| 07:40.30 | Depherios | ... futrtrubl what exactly does that do? XD |
| 07:40.51 | futrtrubl | ummm.... I'm not sure, made while sleep typing one night ;'] |
| 07:41.05 | futrtrubl | Want me to submit RememberMyGodlikeNameplates? ;'] |
| 07:42.41 | futrtrubl | ie, it remembers whether you want to show nameplates or not and automatically sets them to shown (or not) on loggin (instead of the hastle of always hitting v on loggin |
| 07:43.01 | futrtrubl | to BE shown... |
| 07:43.37 | Cairenn | so futrtrubl, did you confirm that the papers went out today so you'll get them tomorrow? |
| 07:44.02 | futrtrubl | Cairenn, I'll tidy the code up (currently every frame/variable is named the above) and submit tomorow |
| 07:44.09 | Cairenn | okay |
| 07:44.33 | futrtrubl | they are on their way, fingers crossed they get here in time (they should) |
| 07:44.45 | futrtrubl | plus I finally got the car sold... that's a relief |
| 07:44.56 | Cairenn | good |
| 07:45.29 | futrtrubl | oh.. anyone know Lozareth's real name? |
| 07:47.11 | Guillotine | Lozareth is his real name |
| 07:47.29 | Guillotine | cairenn: this dosn't really do anything visible. what should i do for the screenshot? |
| 07:47.33 | Tem | Anyone speak fluent french? |
| 07:47.37 | Guillotine | si |
| 07:47.43 | Guillotine | wait. thats spanish |
| 07:47.45 | Guillotine | no |
| 07:47.49 | Tem | that is spanish |
| 07:48.12 | Tem | This is really a question that only someone who lives in france could answer |
| 07:48.22 | Tem | and they're all asleep right now anyway |
| 07:48.44 | Cairenn | Guillotine: random filler image |
| 07:48.51 | Guillotine | nice |
| 07:49.20 | Tem | do something creative |
| 07:49.27 | futrtrubl | Tem, looking for French localization? me too |
| 07:49.39 | Tem | not really looking for localization |
| 07:49.52 | Tem | I'm just looking for clarification on what they call traffic lights |
| 07:50.12 | Tem | I'm fairly sure the "propper" way is "Fue rouge" |
| 07:50.23 | futrtrubl | red fire? |
| 07:50.27 | Cairenn | I believe you are correct Tem |
| 07:50.47 | Tem | However, I think mostly they just call it "un feu" |
| 07:50.54 | Guillotine | ok. g2g |
| 07:50.57 | Guillotine | i uploaded the addon |
| 07:51.00 | Cairenn | later Guillotine |
| 07:51.00 | Guillotine | with a funny filler image |
| 07:51.07 | Guillotine | gn |
| 07:51.15 | futrtrubl | I've forgotten all my O-Level French, I should be distressed |
| 07:51.16 | Tem | "Arrete au feu" |
| 07:51.34 | Tem | futrtrubl: that was an accurate direct translation |
| 07:52.41 | futrtrubl | it's not just that, I used to be quite good at it, good enough at least to localise my own mod, but I can't anymore |
| 07:53.00 | Tem | oh |
| 07:53.04 | Tem | I don't trust myself to do that |
| 07:53.35 | futrtrubl | same |
| 07:53.37 | Tem | I've seen some english localizations by french people that tell me to __NOT__ attempt to localize |
| 07:54.04 | oxman | :) |
| 07:54.07 | oxman | i'm french :p |
| 07:54.23 | Tem | can you answer my question about traffic lights? |
| 07:54.36 | Tem | do you just call it "un feu"? |
| 07:54.58 | oxman | which traffic light ? |
| 07:55.03 | oxman | put the context |
| 07:55.23 | Tem | any traffic light |
| 07:55.27 | Cairenn | red, yellow, green |
| 07:55.37 | oxman | oh |
| 07:55.37 | Cairenn | I'm presuming |
| 07:55.40 | oxman | "un feu rouge" |
| 07:55.43 | oxman | "un feu vert" |
| 07:55.44 | futrtrubl | traffic lights in general |
| 07:55.45 | oxman | "un feu orange" |
| 07:55.47 | oxman | is that you want ? |
| 07:55.48 | Tem | oh! |
| 07:55.57 | Cairenn | and all 3 together, the traffic signal? |
| 07:56.06 | Tem | just un feu I would guess |
| 07:56.07 | oxman | "les feux" |
| 07:56.14 | Tem | oh really? |
| 07:56.16 | oxman | yes |
| 07:56.22 | oxman | but, often we said : |
| 07:56.24 | oxman | "les feux rouges" |
| 07:56.26 | futrtrubl | ya rly |
| 07:56.29 | oxman | i don't know why xD |
| 07:56.56 | Cairenn | for example, you get to a 4-way intersection with the 3-colour traffic signals for each direction, those are called ... |
| 07:57.03 | futrtrubl | well, I call the stop lights, so pretty similar |
| 07:57.07 | futrtrubl | them* |
| 07:57.16 | oxman | we said : "il y a des feux rouges" |
| 07:57.17 | Tem | so if you are describing an intersection an want to mention that it has a traffic signal, you would say (and excuse my grammer) "il y a les feux"? |
| 07:57.32 | oxman | "feux rouges" is better |
| 07:57.41 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.42 | oxman | ;) |
| 07:57.51 | Tem | yeah you got it off right before me |
| 07:57.53 | Tem | thanks |
| 07:58.02 | oxman | you're welcome |
| 07:58.02 | oxman | :) |
| 07:58.21 | Tem | See the reason I'm asking is because I'm writing a mod that acts like a traffic signal for dps |
| 07:58.27 | oxman | lol ok |
| 07:58.34 | oxman | it's good to make a translation |
| 07:58.37 | Tem | and I was toying with using a french name |
| 07:58.43 | Tem | as the name of the mod |
| 07:58.44 | oxman | i hate developper don't do a french localisation ;) |
| 07:58.59 | Tem | I don't trust myself to do a full localization |
| 07:59.04 | oxman | so.. if you want kick ass of developper "hitsmod" do it :] |
| 07:59.23 | Tem | but I can handle simple stuff like "Arrete!" |
| 07:59.26 | oxman | a functionnal localisation is good |
| 08:00.11 | oxman | <futrtrubl> Tem, looking for French localization? me too |
| 08:00.14 | oxman | you need some help ? |
| 08:01.35 | futrtrubl | I would love help |
| 08:02.04 | oxman | I'm here ;p |
| 08:02.29 | futrtrubl | well then. Have you done localizations before? |
| 08:02.38 | oxman | yes |
| 08:02.58 | futrtrubl | cool, let me send you my localizations file |
| 08:03.01 | oxman | ok |
| 08:06.50 | Tem | wow this is pretty sad... inc spam |
| 08:06.52 | Tem | Main Entry:Â Â red light Part of Speech:Â Â noun Definition:Â Â stop light Synonyms:Â Â traffic signal |
| 08:07.16 | Tem | Main Entry:Â Â red light |
| 08:07.16 | Tem | Part of Speech:Â Â noun |
| 08:07.16 | Tem | Definition:Â Â stop light |
| 08:07.16 | Tem | Synonyms:Â Â traffic signal |
| 08:07.28 | Tem | that's what's in the dictionary under "red light" |
| 08:09.18 | Ktron | Any of you using GTK with windows much? I had this really useful program that installed a bunch of themes for windows and let me preview and pick which I wanted, but I can't find it again |
| 08:11.48 | oxman | It's a wow ui question ? :] |
| 08:12.02 | oxman | take the dcc futrtrubl |
| 08:12.40 | futrtrubl | not getting one |
| 08:13.23 | futrtrubl | you registered with nickserv oxman? |
| 08:13.37 | oxman | lol no |
| 08:13.37 | oxman | ;p |
| 08:13.42 | oxman | wait |
| 08:14.29 | oxman | you receive the notice ? |
| 08:14.36 | futrtrubl | not a thing |
| 08:14.41 | oxman | http://www.c-lafrance.com/futrtrubl.Localization.lua |
| 08:14.43 | oxman | sorry for the spam |
| 08:14.44 | oxman | :] |
| 08:14.59 | oxman | Show, Hide = Montrer, Cacher |
| 08:15.03 | futrtrubl | wierd, I'm not even getting mIRC saying it's ignored the dcc... |
| 08:15.17 | Cairenn | oxman, are you registered with nickserv? |
| 08:15.22 | oxman | no Cairenn |
| 08:15.26 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.35 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.42 | oxman | i know very well irc server |
| 08:15.43 | oxman | thanks |
| 08:15.43 | oxman | ;) |
| 08:15.46 | Cairenn | then /msg nickserv identify <password> |
| 08:15.48 | Cairenn | okay |
| 08:16.02 | oxman | i never register my nickname :) |
| 08:16.04 | Cairenn | not trying to be insulting, just helpful, sorry |
| 08:16.06 | futrtrubl | I have one more file to send you oxman, it's bigger than the last |
| 08:16.11 | oxman | i know it Cairenn :) |
| 08:16.25 | oxman | more work ;p |
| 08:16.43 | futrtrubl | what? More work? |
| 08:16.56 | oxman | "it's bigger than the last" |
| 08:16.57 | oxman | :] |
| 08:17.14 | futrtrubl | I warned you ;'] |
| 08:17.35 | oxman | "infinitif" for action is better |
| 08:17.39 | oxman | "Fermez" -> "Fermer" |
| 08:17.39 | oxman | ;) |
| 08:17.40 | futrtrubl | and less of this is even atempted to be localized |
| 08:18.22 | oxman | you're good in french |
| 08:18.23 | futrtrubl | don't blame me, another person tried to localise the French part for me ;'] |
| 08:18.30 | oxman | oh ok, he's good |
| 08:18.30 | oxman | ;p |
| 08:18.50 | futrtrubl | I'll pass that on |
| 08:19.28 | oxman | BEB_MainAttachToFrame_Label = "sur l'armature" |
| 08:19.32 | oxman | what do you want say ? |
| 08:20.04 | oxman | Hum forget :p |
| 08:20.35 | futrtrubl | It's sort of part of the sentence Attach <point> to <point> on frame <frame> |
| 08:20.49 | oxman | yes i've read the name of variable :] |
| 08:22.06 | oxman | BEBOPTIONS.VARIABLE_FUNCTIONS_DESCIPTIONS = { |
| 08:22.12 | oxman | i need to translate this too ? :] |
| 08:22.26 | futrtrubl | the stuff in it, but not the line itself |
| 08:22.37 | oxman | uh ? |
| 08:22.42 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.42 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:22.45 | oxman | like that ? |
| 08:22.48 | futrtrubl | yup |
| 08:23.05 | oxman | what's the mod ? |
| 08:23.11 | oxman | what's the mod is design to ? |
| 08:23.15 | futrtrubl | an XP bar mod |
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| 08:23.47 | oxman | an other xp bar mod :] |
| 08:23.57 | oxman | like the 100 other xp bar mod ? ;) |
| 08:23.58 | id` | url? |
| 08:24.00 | futrtrubl | those $plv and others are things you can add to the text on the bar, and will show the actual values they represent |
| 08:24.07 | Tem | night everyone |
| 08:24.10 | id` | url? |
| 08:24.11 | id` | night tem |
| 08:24.13 | Cairenn | night Tem |
| 08:24.13 | id` | morning tem |
| 08:24.17 | id` | morning all |
| 08:24.20 | id` | ^_____^ |
| 08:24.27 | futrtrubl | better than the other 100 mods ;'] http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4353 |
| 08:24.36 | futrtrubl | g'night Tem |
| 08:24.39 | Tem|sleep | silly Europeans... |
| 08:24.41 | oxman | lol |
| 08:24.42 | Tem|sleep | it's nighttime |
| 08:24.47 | id` | 09:24 |
| 08:24.49 | oxman | bonne nuit Tem|sleep ;) |
| 08:24.56 | id` | gode nacht tem ;) |
| 08:24.58 | Tem|sleep | au revoire |
| 08:24.58 | futrtrubl | ~beb |
| 08:25.01 | purl | hmm... beb is BasicExperienceBar, a highly configurable WoW XP bar addon. Find it at your favorite WoW addon site. |
| 08:25.01 | id` | goede* |
| 08:25.19 | oxman | (-e Tem|sleep "au revoir") |
| 08:26.40 | oxman | i'm not very good in english futrtrubl |
| 08:26.42 | oxman | "$pdl Percent of the way through the current level." |
| 08:26.49 | oxman | mean (if i'm level 37) |
| 08:26.56 | oxman | 37% ? |
| 08:27.02 | futrtrubl | no... |
| 08:27.05 | Cairenn | how much of 37 do you have done already |
| 08:27.12 | Cairenn | how close to 38? |
| 08:27.14 | oxman | "$ptl Percent of the level left to complete.", |
| 08:27.17 | oxman | and that so ? :] |
| 08:27.48 | Cairenn | 73% finished 37, 23% left to finish until 38 |
| 08:28.04 | futrtrubl | say the level needs 400 xp, and you have 40xp, that's 10% for $pdl, or 90% for $ptl |
| 08:28.05 | oxman | oh ok thanks |
| 08:28.23 | futrtrubl | Cairenn beat me ;'] |
| 08:28.34 | Cairenn | no baby, you just wish I did ;) |
| 08:28.52 | futrtrubl | mmmmmmmm..... floggers |
| 08:29.15 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 08:29.26 | Cairenn | sorry, was just there, had to take it |
| 08:29.55 | futrtrubl | no need to be sorry, conjured wonderful thoughts.... |
| 08:31.43 | id` | ...right |
| 08:32.14 | oxman | "$Mxp Xp to go until you can earn no more." |
| 08:32.15 | oxman | and |
| 08:32.22 | oxman | "$Txp Xp pour atteindre le level 60." |
| 08:32.24 | oxman | what the difference ? |
| 08:32.39 | oxman | "earn no more" = level 60 no ? |
| 08:33.10 | Ktron | I'd think so |
| 08:33.11 | futrtrubl | earn no more is to the end of lvl 60 |
| 08:33.22 | Ktron | the end of 60?? |
| 08:33.27 | futrtrubl | $Txp is to the start of lvl 60 |
| 08:33.34 | oxman | oh ok... |
| 08:34.11 | futrtrubl | I beleive you can still earn xp at lvl 60, it's just that it doesn't help you currently |
| 08:34.23 | Kolth | You can also learn experience into level 60. |
| 08:34.33 | Kolth | I know people that are 5% into it. |
| 08:34.51 | futrtrubl | 5% into 60? or 61? |
| 08:34.58 | Kolth | through 60 |
| 08:35.09 | futrtrubl | ahh, that's what I was saying |
| 08:35.30 | Kolth | Well, current total XP is unique for every character. |
| 08:35.41 | futrtrubl | yup |
| 08:37.19 | oxman | "$prt Percent of the way to being fully rested." |
| 08:37.21 | oxman | and that ? |
| 08:37.41 | oxman | if total rested = 10000xp and i have rested 3000 $prt = 30% ? |
| 08:37.48 | oxman | heu 70% ? |
| 08:38.08 | futrtrubl | 30% |
| 08:38.24 | oxman | "to being fully rested" |
| 08:38.26 | oxman | are you sur ? |
| 08:38.53 | id` | im not in a good mood |
| 08:38.53 | id` | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1754#comments |
| 08:38.59 | oxman | (damn'it, i help an alliance man :]) |
| 08:39.24 | futrtrubl | the max amount of rest bonus you can have is 1.5x the max xp for the lvl, so it's the current amount of rest bonus over that |
| 08:40.07 | oxman | so it's 70% :] |
| 08:40.14 | futrtrubl | take control of it id` |
| 08:40.23 | futrtrubl | nope, 30% |
| 08:40.24 | id` | ? |
| 08:40.32 | oxman | i don't understand really :| |
| 08:40.37 | id` | take control of what? |
| 08:40.43 | oxman | you're english sentence is wrong ;p |
| 08:40.52 | id` | no your's is |
| 08:40.56 | id` | haha |
| 08:40.57 | id` | mine too |
| 08:40.59 | Kolth | hahah |
| 08:40.59 | id` | xD |
| 08:40.59 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 08:41.13 | oxman | "Pour cent de la manière entièrement à l'repos." |
| 08:41.16 | oxman | systran don't translate very good |
| 08:41.16 | oxman | ;p |
| 08:41.21 | futrtrubl | you way would be Percent left to becoming fully rested |
| 08:41.43 | oxman | so it's 70% |
| 08:41.51 | id` | Cairenn: i love your sig :< |
| 08:41.52 | futrtrubl | nope, 30% |
| 08:41.54 | oxman | if i can have 10000xp rested |
| 08:41.57 | id` | avatar* |
| 08:42.00 | oxman | and i have 3000xp rested |
| 08:42.08 | oxman | the percent left to becoming fully rested is 70% |
| 08:42.10 | oxman | and not 30% |
| 08:42.13 | Cairenn | oxman: (damn'it, i help an alliance man :]) - in here there are no classes and no sides, only UI Mod devs ;) |
| 08:42.15 | futrtrubl | (3000/10000)*100 |
| 08:42.19 | Cairenn | id`: thanks |
| 08:42.26 | futrtrubl | but this is not the percent left |
| 08:42.27 | oxman | Cairenn: but... :p |
| 08:42.36 | oxman | it's the actuel percent that |
| 08:42.37 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 08:42.51 | oxman | actuel/actual |
| 08:43.12 | futrtrubl | yes, it's percent you have done, not the percent left |
| 08:43.16 | oxman | yes |
| 08:43.19 | oxman | so percent left = |
| 08:43.29 | oxman | (1000-3000)/10000*100 |
| 08:43.31 | oxman | so it's 70% |
| 08:43.32 | oxman | xD |
| 08:43.39 | oxman | 10000 not 1000 sorry ;) |
| 08:43.52 | futrtrubl | 70%, but that isn't $prt |
| 08:43.53 | oxman | or basically, percent left = 100-percent ;) |
| 08:44.00 | futrtrubl | $prt is 30% |
| 08:44.06 | Ktron | alright, time to sleep for me, night everyone |
| 08:44.13 | futrtrubl | night Ktron |
| 08:44.16 | Cairenn | night Ktron :) |
| 08:44.20 | oxman | to being fully rested |
| 08:44.24 | oxman | = to be fully rested |
| 08:44.25 | oxman | not ? |
| 08:44.31 | oxman | bonne nuit Ktron|sleep |
| 08:44.41 | Ktron|sleep | I'll work on the fully rested thing |
| 08:44.48 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 08:44.48 | id` | coolio: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4422 |
| 08:44.52 | Ktron|sleep | futrtrubl, oxman, Cairenn |
| 08:44.52 | futrtrubl | the WAY to being fully.... |
| 08:45.09 | Kolth | id`, Anduin made ChatBar super! |
| 08:45.14 | oxman | ok |
| 08:45.17 | Cairenn | aye, he did |
| 08:45.23 | Kolth | DropDownMenu omg! |
| 08:45.27 | futrtrubl | I need to make the english version better though |
| 08:45.32 | oxman | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:45.34 | Cairenn | oh how he cursed that dropdown menu |
| 08:45.50 | futrtrubl | DDM, are not fun |
| 08:46.17 | oxman | "$pre Percent of the way to the end of the level that's rested" |
| 08:46.18 | oxman | tada :p |
| 08:46.33 | oxman | It's more complicated now :] |
| 08:46.47 | oxman | I have 3000/1000 of my actual xp |
| 08:46.51 | oxman | I have 3000/10000 of my actual xp |
| 08:47.02 | oxman | i have 15000 of rested |
| 08:47.10 | oxman | so $pre =70% ? |
| 08:48.16 | futrtrubl | say you have 5000 xp, max xp for the level is 10000, and you have 2500 rested bonus, it's 50% |
| 08:48.33 | futrtrubl | 2500/(10000-5000) |
| 08:49.40 | oxman | So, it's represent the percent of xp_rested for the xp_rest of this level ? |
| 08:50.05 | futrtrubl | it's how much of what's left to do till you level that can be done while rested. I never wanted to make that one |
| 08:50.13 | futrtrubl | yup |
| 08:50.24 | oxman | ok thanks |
| 08:50.44 | id` | I think ill go for wdnExpBarMod and make my own off of that |
| 08:51.07 | futrtrubl | make your own XP bar mod? |
| 08:51.20 | id` | yep |
| 08:51.38 | id` | no menus no popups no configurability. personal use, minimal ram usage. |
| 08:52.03 | futrtrubl | yeah, Beladonas xp bar is made to be slim |
| 08:52.07 | id` | if i make my own it means im configuring it already |
| 08:52.17 | oxman | (flat bar = barre plate, say that at your friend) |
| 08:52.21 | futrtrubl | mines made to be the bloated swiss army knife, despite the name |
| 08:52.40 | id` | i cant us emods like that |
| 08:52.44 | oxman | xp bar is useless, i'm 60 and the addon will come later, very later :] |
| 08:52.46 | id` | when i start wow i have 20MB ram left |
| 08:52.52 | futrtrubl | will do oxman. speaking of Shouryu, anyone seen him around? |
| 08:52.54 | id` | and i have 10fps ingame |
| 08:52.57 | id` | ;\ |
| 08:53.02 | Cairenn | not lately futrtrubl |
| 08:53.18 | futrtrubl | k |
| 08:53.21 | Kolth | If I have a function that returns a lot of things when I only want one, how do I best save resources? |
| 08:53.56 | futrtrubl | oxman, I'm going to make it so you can change BEB into a reputation or honor bar at 60 |
| 08:54.00 | oxman | BEBOPTIONS.STRATAS = { -- |
| 08:54.05 | oxman | i need to translate too ? |
| 08:54.22 | futrtrubl | _,_,interestingvar,_,_=func() |
| 08:54.26 | oxman | oh it's will be great futrtrubl and i will use it :] |
| 08:54.26 | futrtrubl | yes |
| 08:54.29 | oxman | ok |
| 08:54.32 | Kolth | futrtrubl, thanks |
| 08:54.53 | id` | ugh, i just clicked on the compilations link and viewed some compilations. remind me to never do that again |
| 08:55.10 | futrtrubl | unless it's the first return value, in which case interestingvar = (func()) |
| 08:56.59 | oxman | yeah ! |
| 08:57.00 | oxman | finish ! |
| 08:57.01 | oxman | ;p |
| 08:57.12 | futrtrubl | it was bigger than the last ;'] |
| 08:57.20 | oxman | get it from the previous url |
| 08:57.20 | oxman | :) |
| 08:58.00 | futrtrubl | thank you so much oxman |
| 08:58.10 | oxman | you're welcome |
| 08:58.15 | futrtrubl | can I bother you when I get more stuff to translate? |
| 08:58.16 | oxman | but "les feux rouges" is more easy :p |
| 08:58.24 | oxman | i think :] |
| 08:59.09 | futrtrubl | yes, that is much easier |
| 09:00.25 | oxman | " |
| 09:00.25 | oxman | Healthbar mod to display health as a circle? |
| 09:00.25 | oxman | wandering_monk |
| 09:00.36 | oxman | why people want stuff like that ? :] |
| 09:01.01 | oxman | oh "around you're character" it's ok :p |
| 09:01.23 | futrtrubl | yup, looks nice |
| 09:01.38 | oxman | i use discord art for that |
| 09:02.44 | oxman | anyone use combatsentrygizmo ? |
| 09:03.15 | futrtrubl | no, what does it do? |
| 09:03.38 | oxman | Description : |
| 09:03.38 | oxman | CombatSentryGizmo keeps a visual, clickable list of current and potential attackers, buffers and healers. |
| 09:03.42 | oxman | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1338 |
| 09:04.55 | futrtrubl | a decursive mod? |
| 09:05.09 | oxman | no |
| 09:05.14 | oxman | (i don't like decursive) |
| 09:05.41 | futrtrubl | me niether |
| 09:05.43 | oxman | when a player cast a spell/attack around you, the mod add the player in the list |
| 09:05.50 | oxman | (hostile player) |
| 09:05.54 | oxman | (mob too if you want) |
| 09:05.54 | futrtrubl | k |
| 09:06.01 | oxman | so you've a list of hostile player near you |
| 09:06.40 | futrtrubl | well, I still have some packing to do tomorow before the shippers come by, so I'm going to go to bed to get up early |
| 09:07.13 | oxman | good night ;) |
| 09:07.16 | futrtrubl | thank you again oxman for the translation, you will get credit in my readme file ;'] |
| 09:07.24 | oxman | cool :] |
| 09:07.31 | Cairenn | night futrtrubl :) |
| 09:07.32 | futrtrubl | least I could do |
| 09:08.02 | oxman | yes, you can pay me |
| 09:08.02 | oxman | :p |
| 09:08.02 | futrtrubl | how about a free copy of BEB? |
| 09:08.04 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:08.08 | oxman | beuh :( |
| 09:08.11 | oxman | it's gpl compliant ? :] |
| 09:08.12 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 09:08.26 | futrtrubl | not exactly |
| 09:08.39 | oxman | bsd compliant ? :p |
| 09:08.47 | futrtrubl | bdsm compliant |
| 09:08.52 | oxman | lol |
| 09:09.05 | oxman | Who like CT_Raid here ? Who use other raid addon ? |
| 09:09.10 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 09:09.18 | futrtrubl | rawr |
| 09:09.21 | oxman | (CT_RaidAssist) |
| 09:09.34 | oxman | Who use minigroup ? :] |
| 09:09.48 | oxman | Who don't sleep ? |
| 09:09.50 | oxman | Ok. :p |
| 09:10.01 | oxman | So answer |
| 09:10.01 | oxman | lol |
| 09:10.03 | futrtrubl | g'night all, I am expecting very pleasant dreams Cairenn ;'] |
| 09:10.32 | futrtrubl | oh, wait, one thing to do before I go to bed |
| 09:11.35 | Cairenn | oxman, you have yet to say one that I use, so I haven't answered, besides which I tend not to say what mods I do or don't use |
| 09:12.02 | oxman | Wait i get my translator (it's too long to me) |
| 09:12.32 | oxman | why ? |
| 09:12.33 | oxman | :] |
| 09:12.48 | Cairenn | so that I don't upset anyone by saying that I prefer someone else's mods |
| 09:12.50 | futrtrubl | what category should I put RememberMyNameplates in Cair? |
| 09:12.58 | oxman | Say they name please |
| 09:13.00 | Cairenn | I've no idea, what does it do? |
| 09:13.10 | oxman | I don't use CT_RaidAssist (but i use Minigrou) |
| 09:13.11 | oxman | p |
| 09:13.39 | futrtrubl | remembers if you want nameplates shown or not and shows them (or not) on loggin, so you don't have to hit v everytime |
| 09:13.48 | Cairenn | errrr |
| 09:13.53 | Cairenn | O.o |
| 09:14.00 | futrtrubl | quite |
| 09:14.18 | Cairenn | toss it up in general for now |
| 09:14.27 | futrtrubl | ok |
| 09:14.27 | Cairenn | I'm just ... not sure why it's needed (no offense) |
| 09:14.37 | oxman | UI Interface futrtrubl |
| 09:14.51 | oxman | or something like this |
| 09:14.53 | oxman | ;) |
| 09:15.22 | futrtrubl | it's just a convenience mod I made for myself, I hate having to hit v everytime I get in the game to get the nameplates to show |
| 09:15.51 | Cairenn | okay |
| 09:15.58 | futrtrubl | it's only 2kb |
| 09:16.02 | Cairenn | I didn't know that they didn't stay on automatically |
| 09:16.20 | oxman | because basically you need it only in instance ? |
| 09:16.20 | oxman | ;) |
| 09:16.21 | futrtrubl | I wish they did, and I don't understand why they don't |
| 09:16.36 | oxman | and not in all instance :] |
| 09:37.13 | SP|Sorren | you only need them when a billion giant cows are sitting on the ab npc :( |
| 09:37.44 | SP|Sorren | i had to rebind the nameplates thing for that 8) |
| 09:39.54 | Cairenn | fun |
| 09:47.45 | Kolth | What's a W Buffer vs. a Z Buffer? :| |
| 09:48.57 | Kolth | It seems more advanced? |
| 09:49.07 | oxman | where ? |
| 09:49.20 | Kolth | Another game. |
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| 11:02.20 | AnduinLothar | morning |
| 11:02.31 | id` | morning |
| 11:02.55 | AnduinLothar | I made a simple MenuOnScreen mod, anyone wanna test it? |
| 11:03.50 | id` | at work |
| 11:07.34 | id` | children* |
| 11:08.31 | Kolth | I will, Karl. |
| 11:09.55 | AnduinLothar | ah, it's kolth, my trusted guinepig |
| 11:10.04 | Kolth | You know it, honey. |
| 11:11.00 | Cairenn | I would Karl, but I'm heading for sleep, sorry =/ |
| 11:11.27 | Cairenn|sleep | Kolth, I made a couple more suggestions for that guy *shrug* |
| 11:11.32 | Kolth | Saw 'em. |
| 11:11.34 | Kolth | Who knows. |
| 11:11.57 | Kolth | My ability to help someone ends above \Interface, \WTF and \WDB. |
| 11:12.03 | Cairenn|sleep | anyway, I'm out, night/morning/afternoon folks ;) |
| 11:12.08 | Kolth | Night, Cair. |
| 11:12.08 | Cairenn|sleep | see everyone in a few hours time |
| 11:14.20 | AnduinLothar | sweet dreams cair |
| 11:14.44 | Kolth | Karl... Can I use 'is' instead of == in LUA? |
| 11:14.57 | AnduinLothar | not that i know of |
| 11:20.44 | AnduinLothar | sily, gm... i said it dropped off emp when i meant the princess and 2 days later i get an email saying that item doesn't srop off emp and can i provide more details |
| 11:21.31 | Kolth | haha |
| 11:21.40 | Kolth | Reply: "Thottbot.com" |
| 11:21.51 | AnduinLothar | ya, gg gm |
| 11:22.16 | AnduinLothar | i was gonna send him a thottbot link of the princess and the item, but i decided not to |
| 11:23.02 | Kolth | Let me know what's up with this uber new AddOn. |
| 11:23.10 | AnduinLothar | zipping now |
| 11:23.15 | Kolth | I'm just looting Arcane Crystals like dandilions. |
| 11:23.16 | AnduinLothar | do you use tracker toggle? |
| 11:23.21 | Kolth | Nope. |
| 11:23.23 | Kolth | Can enable it though. |
| 11:23.33 | AnduinLothar | k |
| 11:23.44 | AnduinLothar | got any tracking skills? |
| 11:23.56 | Kolth | Minerals |
| 11:24.16 | AnduinLothar | enable the mod and tell me if the menu goes offscreen when you right click the minimap |
| 11:25.08 | AnduinLothar | heh, this char has 74 days play time |
| 11:25.13 | Kolth | Damn. |
| 11:25.18 | Kolth | Go AddOn Testing :) |
| 11:25.39 | AnduinLothar | wonder how much i have clocked on my tester chars combined |
| 11:25.42 | AnduinLothar | this is my main |
| 11:25.58 | AnduinLothar | and i only have 1 epic, heh |
| 11:26.14 | Kolth | Logging in with a fresh Tracker Toggle |
| 11:26.17 | Kolth | Which epic? |
| 11:26.27 | AnduinLothar | Hide of the wild i farmed mats for |
| 11:26.30 | Kolth | Oi. |
| 11:26.42 | Kolth | Alexander needs to buy you a Foror's Compendium |
| 11:26.54 | AnduinLothar | not on my server |
| 11:27.07 | AnduinLothar | tho if i had control of the donations... |
| 11:27.08 | Kolth | Gold Buying services then. |
| 11:27.44 | Kolth | TrackerToggle is enabled |
| 11:28.02 | Kolth | But Right-clicking the minimap doesn't give a menu. It pings. |
| 11:28.14 | AnduinLothar | error? |
| 11:28.30 | Kolth | No errors. |
| 11:28.57 | AnduinLothar | does it cast it? |
| 11:29.02 | Kolth | I've never used this. |
| 11:29.09 | Kolth | No. |
| 11:29.09 | Kolth | It just pings the minimap. |
| 11:29.12 | AnduinLothar | right click does? |
| 11:29.19 | AnduinLothar | do you have it enabled in khaos? |
| 11:29.27 | Kolth | Didn't find it in Khaos. |
| 11:29.51 | AnduinLothar | good point.. |
| 11:30.29 | Kolth | Right-clicking my minimap is supposed to open a menu of tracking abilities? |
| 11:30.41 | AnduinLothar | ya.. |
| 11:30.51 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.02 | AnduinLothar | should just say (table) |
| 11:31.09 | Kolth | I don't have /print |
| 11:31.25 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.31 | Kolth | nawp |
| 11:31.35 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.36 | Kolth | What gives those? |
| 11:31.42 | Kolth | nope |
| 11:32.15 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:32.44 | Kolth | Good, I don't any of those :) |
| 11:33.22 | Kolth | Reports "(table)" |
| 11:34.26 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:35.07 | AnduinLothar | see anyhting that says TrackerToggle? |
| 11:35.07 | oxman | <AnduinLothar> I made a simple MenuOnScreen mod, anyone wanna test it? |
| 11:35.10 | oxman | what's doing ? |
| 11:35.12 | Kolth | Shows some hooks for TrackerToggle |
| 11:35.29 | AnduinLothar | it keeps menus on screen |
| 11:36.08 | oxman | (i've /dump, and a french client) |
| 11:36.16 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.26 | Kolth | (true) |
| 11:36.31 | AnduinLothar | there u go |
| 11:36.40 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:36.52 | Kolth | k |
| 11:36.58 | AnduinLothar | now do you get a menu? |
| 11:37.05 | Kolth | Menu does not go offscreen |
| 11:37.30 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:37.41 | Kolth | 0.75 |
| 11:38.12 | AnduinLothar | ok, go into the lua, to the openMenu function |
| 11:38.26 | AnduinLothar | comment out TrackerToggle.moveMenuOnScreen(); |
| 11:38.45 | Kolth | Already is |
| 11:38.49 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
| 11:38.50 | AnduinLothar | odd |
| 11:38.53 | Kolth | openMenu = function()ToggleDropDownMenu(1, nil, TrackerToggleDropDown, "cursor", 0, 0);--TrackerToggle.moveMenuOnScreen();end; |
| 11:39.21 | AnduinLothar | wonder why it stays on screen... i had the sme issue, it would work, then it wouldn't |
| 11:39.27 | AnduinLothar | ok... try this |
| 11:39.42 | AnduinLothar | move your chatframe button to the right side of the screen |
| 11:39.53 | AnduinLothar | and right click it |
| 11:40.27 | Kolth | Doesn't go offscreen |
| 11:40.32 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
| 11:40.49 | AnduinLothar | wonder what addon you have that fixes it already |
| 11:40.55 | Kolth | oh |
| 11:41.31 | Kolth | nvm, thought I was using the drop down fixer |
| 11:41.37 | AnduinLothar | oxman, do your menus go off the right side of the screen? |
| 11:42.29 | AnduinLothar | just the 1st level ones. the 2nd and 3rd lvls should be fine and stay on screen |
| 11:43.14 | AnduinLothar | what was that kolth? |
| 11:43.20 | oxman | which menu ? |
| 11:43.27 | AnduinLothar | any menu |
| 11:43.28 | Kolth | Iriel's thingy that makes clicking outside a manu close it |
| 11:43.40 | Kolth | TrackerToggle disabled itself, btw |
| 11:43.43 | AnduinLothar | oh? didn't know he made one |
| 11:43.49 | oxman | game menu or addon menu ? |
| 11:43.53 | oxman | i haven't your addon |
| 11:44.01 | AnduinLothar | ya, it auto disables if you have less than 2 trackers |
| 11:44.29 | Kolth | Maybe Iriel didn't write it. |
| 11:44.31 | AnduinLothar | game menu oxman, like drag a chatframe button to the right side of the screen |
| 11:45.36 | oxman | game menu ? with esc ? or panel menu ? like as character frame ? guild frame ? |
| 11:45.49 | AnduinLothar | DropDownMenu |
| 11:46.03 | AnduinLothar | liek the one that open when you right click the chat tabs |
| 11:46.09 | oxman | which dropdown menu... |
| 11:46.10 | Kolth | I'm fresh-installing, Karl, one sec. |
| 11:46.35 | AnduinLothar | any one... |
| 11:46.52 | oxman | i don't see any dropdown menu ;p |
| 11:47.19 | AnduinLothar | do you have simple chat enabled? |
| 11:47.31 | oxman | no |
| 11:48.04 | AnduinLothar | ... and nothing happens when you right click a chat tab? |
| 11:48.11 | oxman | ah ! |
| 11:48.32 | oxman | i see a dropdown menu ;p |
| 11:48.48 | Kolth | Erm, I can't fresh-install, apparently. |
| 11:48.58 | AnduinLothar | ok, now unlock the chat tab from the menu and drag the tab to the right side of the screen |
| 11:49.47 | oxman | then ? |
| 11:50.05 | AnduinLothar | when you right click it does the menu appear half off screen? |
| 11:50.15 | oxman | yes |
| 11:50.24 | AnduinLothar | good, it's sposed to |
| 11:50.25 | oxman | it's left align to border of chat frame |
| 11:50.33 | AnduinLothar | my addon fixes that |
| 11:50.42 | oxman | fixe ? it's not a bug :| |
| 11:51.30 | Kolth | Karl, I just fresh-installed Cosmos and my ChatFrame drop-downs stay on screen. |
| 11:51.52 | AnduinLothar | it's not a bug, but it's an oversight. If you attach anythign to cursor and use a dropdownmenu and then click on the right side of the screen half of it goes off screen, making it useles |
| 11:52.14 | AnduinLothar | hmm, kolth. something in cosmos must fix it |
| 11:52.21 | Kolth | Checking that statement, sec. |
| 11:52.35 | AnduinLothar | i'm virtually positive that a vanilla interface goes off screen |
| 11:52.42 | Kolth | No, even without AddOns it stays on screen. |
| 11:52.49 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
| 11:52.54 | oxman | i'm not english, so i'm don't understand very well xD |
| 11:53.02 | oxman | but i've no problem |
| 11:53.08 | Kolth | I dragged my ChatFrame1's tab so half of it was off the right edge of the screen |
| 11:53.11 | Kolth | Right-clicked. |
| 11:53.20 | Kolth | Menu went left, 100% on screen. |
| 11:53.36 | AnduinLothar | ok, drag it so that the frame is onscreen |
| 11:54.11 | Kolth | It's as far as it can go right w/o me losing it. |
| 11:54.21 | oxman | when my chat frame is 90% out of the screen the dropdownmenu is shown at left of the chatframe, and i see fully the dropdownmenu |
| 11:54.33 | Kolth | Oh, *rereads |
| 11:54.47 | Kolth | Frame is 100% on screen. |
| 11:55.05 | AnduinLothar | ChatFrame or ChatTab? |
| 11:55.13 | Kolth | Both. |
| 11:55.31 | AnduinLothar | what happens if the frame is off screen but the tab is on? |
| 11:55.42 | oxman | it's happen what i have said ;p |
| 11:56.09 | Kolth | I just pulled the chat tab so 90% of the tab is offscreen |
| 11:56.15 | Kolth | (right edge) |
| 11:56.16 | AnduinLothar | oxman, how did you get it to be half off screen? |
| 11:56.21 | Kolth | Menu goes left, all the way on screen. |
| 11:56.38 | oxman | i push my frame at right of my screen |
| 11:56.39 | oxman | :) |
| 11:56.44 | oxman | yes Kolth, me too |
| 11:57.11 | Kolth | Karl, know the Say bubble button? That guy's menu goes offscreen. |
| 11:58.07 | AnduinLothar | the one rendered int he world frame? |
| 11:58.33 | Kolth | The Say, Party Chat, Guild Chat, etc menu |
| 11:59.19 | AnduinLothar | oh, right. that one uses it's one menu system, it's dumb. no idea why it exist |
| 11:59.26 | Kolth | hah |
| 12:00.20 | AnduinLothar | ok, so now i'm confused.. cause mine goes off screen.. all of my menus |
| 12:00.29 | Kolth | Want video? :) |
| 12:00.42 | AnduinLothar | no, i believe you |
| 12:00.50 | AnduinLothar | u on vanilla interface now? |
| 12:01.06 | Kolth | If by Vanilla you mean I let WoW create \Interface and \WTF at client load, then yes. |
| 12:01.19 | AnduinLothar | scale still .75 |
| 12:01.21 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 12:01.25 | Kolth | default |
| 12:01.28 | AnduinLothar | ahhh |
| 12:01.38 | AnduinLothar | ok, so 1 |
| 12:01.45 | AnduinLothar | set scale to .75 again |
| 12:02.35 | Kolth | k |
| 12:05.15 | AnduinLothar | menus still on screen? |
| 12:05.24 | Kolth | 100% |
| 12:05.30 | AnduinLothar | ... |
| 12:05.44 | AnduinLothar | ok... so maybe it's jsut me |
| 12:06.27 | id` | yay for work http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9028/untitled7va.png |
| 12:06.32 | AnduinLothar | and looking at the code it doesn't account for it, so i dunno what freak of nature client you're playing on |
| 12:06.32 | id` | >_> |
| 12:07.24 | Kolth | Maybe someone else will be of more use. |
| 12:08.21 | AnduinLothar | heh, thx for trying |
| 12:08.29 | Kolth | Sorry my client is uber. :( |
| 12:08.38 | id` | haha :> |
| 12:08.41 | AnduinLothar | ya, i dunno what that deal is |
| 12:09.24 | AnduinLothar | i'm looking at the drop down code here and it specificly says if it's level one then you dont need to account for going off the right side of the screen |
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| 12:11.39 | AnduinLothar | it's even in a comment: |
| 12:11.40 | AnduinLothar | -- If level 1 can only go off the bottom of the screen |
| 12:11.56 | Kolth | Yeah. Definitely can't get menus to go off the bottom |
| 12:12.06 | Kolth | They render North of the cursor if they originate low. |
| 12:12.16 | AnduinLothar | right, it's sposed to do that |
| 12:13.18 | AnduinLothar | are u in full screen when testing or windowed? |
| 12:13.22 | Kolth | Windowed. |
| 12:14.16 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.11 | oxman | 960 1297 |
| 12:15.11 | oxman | ;p |
| 12:15.30 | oxman | fullscreen for me :] |
| 12:15.59 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.38 | oxman | 0.74 |
| 12:16.56 | AnduinLothar | sounds right |
| 12:17.08 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:17.23 | oxman | same, 0.74 |
| 12:30.38 | AnduinLothar | fine, w/e i'll just use it myself if it's not a problem for anyone else |
| 12:34.47 | krka | can someone send me the latest framexml folder if it's not too much work? |
| 12:42.09 | AnduinLothar | could send you the test patch folder.. |
| 12:44.30 | oxman | the hack of framexml must be prohibited |
| 12:48.02 | krka | agreed |
| 12:48.14 | krka | I just want to look at it and see what can be improved |
| 12:48.22 | krka | like maybe actionbuttons |
| 12:50.37 | AnduinLothar | dunno, they made a bunch of improvements to speed in 1.9 |
| 12:52.03 | AnduinLothar | DCC SEND FrameXML.zip to krka failed. Connection reset by peer |
| 12:52.08 | oxman | why do you want improve with actionbutton ? :p |
| 12:56.27 | krka | hmm... oops |
| 12:56.34 | krka | my upload dir is set to a non-existant one |
| 12:56.46 | AnduinLothar | gj |
| 12:56.57 | oxman | :p |
| 12:57.18 | krka | and _now_ it's fixed :) |
| 12:57.30 | oxman | "tada" |
| 12:58.55 | krka | which units do you get UNIT_AURA /AURA_STATE from? |
| 12:59.04 | krka | target, player, party? |
| 12:59.11 | krka | raid even? |
| 13:00.57 | AnduinLothar | yes, and mouseover |
| 13:02.21 | AnduinLothar | well here's my small addon if you ever have any problems with your menus being offscreen: http://www.wowguru.com/ui/menuonscreen/ |
| 13:03.02 | AnduinLothar | no idea if it actually works for anyone else.. |
| 13:04.56 | AnduinLothar | anyway.. sleep time |
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| 13:05.23 | Kolth | Night! |
| 13:06.22 | oxman | it's work without your addon for me AnduinLothar ;) |
| 13:06.31 | oxman | you've an addon that broke that :) |
| 13:06.40 | AnduinLothar | guess so.. |
| 13:07.12 | AnduinLothar | w/e... easier than debugging for now.. |
| 13:07.41 | AnduinLothar | and my shameless plug for those who still haven't seen chatbar: http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2884 |
| 13:08.18 | AnduinLothar | zzz |
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| 14:13.42 | krka | can someone remind me - how do I best check if a tooltip is empty? |
| 14:13.50 | krka | IsShown? IsVisible? |
| 14:14.32 | krka | hmm.. or numlines? |
| 14:15.03 | krka | like, if I set the tooltip to a UnitDebuff that doesn't exist |
| 14:24.50 | Tain | Dunno, I haven't done anything at all with tooltips as of yet. |
| 14:27.29 | krka | yay works now |
| 14:27.36 | krka | had to use UnitBuff(unit, index) though |
| 14:31.12 | krka | yay, Wishlist is working |
| 14:34.38 | Tain | Will it make all of my wishes come true? |
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| 14:35.32 | Nomad_Wanderer | Howdy ppl. |
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| 14:37.53 | Tain | Mornin |
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| 14:39.08 | Cide | oops, and morning Tain |
| 14:40.15 | MoonWolf | eveining |
| 14:40.17 | MoonWolf | evening* |
| 14:48.22 | Nomad_Wanderer | I'm still being beaten by the Blizzard UI... Sorted Selectable lists that have frequent updates are going to be the death of me. |
| 14:48.45 | Nomad_Wanderer | I wish there was a selectable ItemList Component.. Like there is for buttons/textareas.. |
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| 15:56.42 | Tain | I've more or less trained myself to just ignore ads on webpages. But now I'm really sad that I hadn't installed AdBlocker before. |
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| 16:36.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Hehe |
| 16:36.43 | ScytheBlade1 | AdBlocker is amazing |
| 16:40.06 | krka | any way to get the mana cost for a spell? |
| 16:40.54 | MoonWolf | read the tooltip ? |
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| 16:41.26 | krka | hm |
| 16:41.52 | krka | thanks |
| 16:42.05 | krka | GameTooltip:SetSpell(spellId,spellbookTabNum) |
| 16:42.12 | krka | is that the same tooltip as when looking in spell book? |
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| 16:50.45 | id` | ActionBarButtonTemplate |
| 16:50.54 | id` | i need to know all the methods i can use |
| 16:51.27 | id` | wowwiki returns me nothing |
| 16:51.27 | id` | :| |
| 16:52.25 | id` | there is the Button object though |
| 16:52.28 | id` | let me go try :> |
| 16:56.08 | Tain | id: basically with wowwiki you look at the object they list methods for, and the frames that it's derived from. |
| 16:56.31 | Tain | So for example the button method says it includes all methods from Frame and LayoutFrame |
| 16:56.36 | Tain | That's the best I've been able to do. |
| 17:38.50 | Ktron | xchat has a jallion features |
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| 17:50.22 | krka | hmm... my addon is probably way too hard to handle for the average user |
| 17:51.40 | ScytheBlade1 | What does it do? |
| 17:52.04 | krka | it lets you set up different "wishlists" |
| 17:52.15 | krka | each wishlist is a list of spells to cast, combined with conditions |
| 17:52.37 | krka | when you hit the perform button for the wishlist, you cast the first spell on the list that satisfies the conditions |
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| 17:57.44 | digix | hey Bela, got a question for ya :) |
| 17:58.49 | digix | now that im knee deep in this XSLT stuff.... i have a problem with one of the xml values and the formatting i need and i cant seem to find a way to take care of it on w3schools |
| 17:59.14 | Beladona | ok |
| 17:59.22 | digix | the money value is all one string |
| 17:59.36 | Beladona | and you need it separated? |
| 17:59.41 | digix | yep |
| 18:00.00 | digix | just cant seem to figure out how :-/ |
| 18:00.02 | Beladona | paste the string here |
| 18:00.07 | Beladona | or an example of one |
| 18:00.10 | digix | 222181 |
| 18:00.18 | Beladona | hmm |
| 18:00.23 | Beladona | and that is what? |
| 18:00.23 | digix | translates to 22g 21s 81c of course |
| 18:00.28 | Beladona | ahh |
| 18:01.27 | Beladona | gimme a sec, will have what you need momentarily |
| 18:01.52 | digix | awesome, thanks so much for your help and for showing me XSLT in the first place :) its exactly what i needed |
| 18:05.37 | Beladona | digix: what is the name of the element that the value resides in |
| 18:05.53 | Beladona | like <money>######</money> ? |
| 18:07.07 | Beladona | better yet, can you paste an xml file into pastebin so I can see it |
| 18:07.15 | Beladona | that way I can test if what I am about to give you actually works |
| 18:08.00 | Tain | Testing is for the weak! |
| 18:10.49 | digix | its <coin>######</coin> |
| 18:11.01 | digix | oh sure |
| 18:12.14 | digix | you want the whole xml doc? |
| 18:13.44 | Beladona | please |
| 18:13.48 | Beladona | if it isn't too large |
| 18:14.36 | digix | its somewhat large, im just using the allah xml from my profile for the time being |
| 18:14.43 | digix | http://pastebin.com/476832 |
| 18:18.38 | Beladona | bad alla |
| 18:18.45 | Beladona | poorly formed xml |
| 18:18.47 | Beladona | hehe |
| 18:18.50 | digix | lol |
| 18:19.29 | digix | eventually, ill have dedicated xml from one of the profile addons |
| 18:28.50 | Beladona | almost done. This xml is nasty |
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| 18:33.06 | Tain | Bad xml. Bad! |
| 18:37.22 | Ktron | purl, kill the xml! |
| 18:37.24 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited positrino gun at the xml! |
| 18:37.47 | Ktron | purl, good |
| 18:37.48 | purl | somebody said good was an adjective |
| 18:37.51 | MoonWolf | yay for excited positrino's |
| 18:38.03 | MoonWolf | ~botsnack |
| 18:38.03 | purl | thanks, MoonWolf |
| 18:38.38 | Ktron | I wish I could run an IRCbot without running cygwin |
| 18:38.42 | Ktron | or mIRC |
| 18:39.02 | Ktron | that I could extend... it'd be fun |
| 18:39.49 | MoonWolf | perl for the win. |
| 18:40.28 | Tain | ~today |
| 18:40.29 | purl | sucks. |
| 18:40.33 | Ktron | perl and php are my friends |
| 18:40.34 | Ktron | lol |
| 18:40.48 | MoonWolf | go build a perl irc bot then. |
| 18:41.12 | Tain | Just don't make a php irc bot. :) |
| 18:41.35 | futrtrubl | VB irc bot |
| 18:41.43 | MoonWolf | php irc bot. |
| 18:41.45 | Ktron | using what? I looked up and found a little on a project people were working on 'net::IRC' but I don't think it's normal, and I think they only give you sources |
| 18:41.47 | MoonWolf | i have to look into that. |
| 18:41.57 | Ktron | There is a php irc bot out there I believe |
| 18:42.09 | Ktron | is there a reason php is bad to use for it? and I've never really used VB |
| 18:43.16 | MoonWolf | to begin with, php was designed for a totally different thing. |
| 18:45.33 | Ktron | heh, that's true |
| 18:48.38 | Tain | Yeah it was designed for, "Personal Home Pages" |
| 18:48.45 | Tain | And snowballed into something else. |
| 18:49.18 | MoonWolf | yeah, but at least its good at the something else |
| 18:49.29 | MoonWolf | i dont even know how to open a damn socket in php. |
| 18:49.37 | Tain | Yeah it definitely is a lot bigger than what it was originally started as. |
| 18:56.47 | Beladona | ugh |
| 18:56.57 | Beladona | well I know how it SHOULd work but it isn't doing it |
| 18:57.53 | Beladona | all you need is to run a regex on the string as (..)(..)(..) and then get each value as regex-group(1), regex-group(2), regex-group(3) |
| 19:04.55 | digix | hmmmm, ok, ill look at it when i get home |
| 19:05.19 | digix | gives me a starting point at least :) |
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| 19:31.58 | futrtrubl | buy guys, gotta pack my comp up now |
| 19:39.23 | Beladona | digix: I did one better |
| 19:39.32 | Beladona | math equation to calculate each one |
| 19:39.57 | digix | oh? |
| 19:41.10 | Beladona | http://pastebin.com/476925 |
| 19:41.13 | Beladona | check that out |
| 19:41.28 | Beladona | it should accurately calculate gold, silver, and copper no matter how much you have of each |
| 19:42.06 | digix | damn... thats nice |
| 19:42.10 | digix | very clean too |
| 19:42.47 | Beladona | =) |
| 19:43.05 | digix | well, let me plug it in real quick |
| 19:43.18 | digix | :) |
| 19:44.01 | Beladona | did some testing as well, and changed the coin value by adding an 8 at the beginning to simulate 822 gold |
| 19:44.10 | Beladona | and it accurately output 822 gold, etc... |
| 19:44.42 | digix | very nice |
| 19:45.11 | Beladona | and just did the same thing the other way |
| 19:45.26 | Beladona | changed the number to 181, and got 0g 1s 81c |
| 19:47.16 | digix | hrm |
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| 19:47.29 | digix | i think the template line broke it.... lol |
| 19:47.40 | Kremonte | morning |
| 19:47.54 | krka | that looks weird to me |
| 19:47.59 | krka | i don't follow the math at all |
| 19:48.06 | Beladona | yeah digix, you con't need that part |
| 19:48.54 | krka | all it does is show gold, silver, copper based on coin? but what is coin in this case? |
| 19:49.03 | Beladona | the coin is total copper |
| 19:49.10 | Beladona | single number |
| 19:49.28 | Beladona | he wanted to split it out into gold, silver, copper |
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| 19:49.37 | krka | hmm.. now I see what you're trying to do |
| 19:49.39 | digix | yeah, the xml tag is <coin>######</coin> |
| 19:49.54 | Beladona | I had to divide it to get the decimal, then floor it |
| 19:50.00 | krka | if con = 1234567 then copper = 67, silver = 4500 and gold = 1230000? |
| 19:50.02 | Beladona | then multiply it again to get the number with 0s |
| 19:50.18 | Beladona | then use that new number to subtract from the total for the silver, copper, etc... |
| 19:50.41 | Beladona | yes krka |
| 19:50.46 | krka | are you really disliking modulo operator? |
| 19:50.47 | krka | :) |
| 19:51.22 | Beladona | he basically wanted it as it would appear in game |
| 19:51.40 | digix | the variables arent working |
| 19:51.44 | digix | im getting nil values |
| 19:52.03 | Beladona | paste your tempalte |
| 19:52.07 | Beladona | so I can see why |
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| 19:53.36 | Beladona | anyone know if they made a wow scite for linux? |
| 19:53.43 | krka | http://pastebin.com/476934 |
| 19:53.45 | Beladona | otherwise I have to modify the regular scite manually |
| 19:53.46 | krka | would that also work? |
| 19:54.14 | Kremonte | scite, bela? |
| 19:54.14 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.22 | krka | from http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html |
| 19:54.33 | krka | ah, _wow_ scite |
| 19:54.55 | Beladona | yeah I have scite already |
| 19:54.58 | Beladona | =P |
| 19:55.04 | Beladona | no biggy, I can edit it |
| 19:55.17 | digix | http://pastebin.com/476935 |
| 19:55.20 | krka | i use emacs for all my lua needs |
| 19:55.50 | Tain | I carve the bits by hand into the platters. |
| 19:56.38 | Beladona | I see your problem digix |
| 19:56.43 | Beladona | will take a sec to fix |
| 19:56.57 | digix | did i put something in the wrong place? cuz thats quite possible.... :P |
| 19:57.05 | Beladona | it doesn't know what coin is |
| 19:57.11 | digix | oohhhhhhh |
| 19:57.34 | digix | yeah, i was wondering about where it would try to look for that |
| 19:57.49 | Beladona | do this |
| 19:58.04 | Beladona | take out the line <xsl:for-each select="AkzWowProfile"> |
| 19:58.10 | Beladona | there is only ever going to be one |
| 19:58.15 | digix | right |
| 19:58.24 | Beladona | make sure you get rid of the closing one too |
| 19:58.28 | Beladona | then: |
| 19:58.59 | Beladona | replace <xsl:template match="/"> on line 4, with <xsl:template match="AkzWowProfile"> |
| 19:59.05 | Beladona | that should fix it |
| 19:59.43 | Beladona | lol |
| 20:00.25 | Beladona | what krka posted is worth a try as well, i didn't try it yet |
| 20:00.34 | Beladona | would make it slightly cleaner, if it works |
| 20:01.12 | digix | hmmm, ill keep that one in mind too |
| 20:07.35 | digix | excellent... http://digix.us/wow/profile/digix.xml |
| 20:07.47 | Kremonte | o.O |
| 20:07.47 | digix | the items are gonna be a pain though |
| 20:07.49 | Kremonte | that's cool |
| 20:08.05 | Kremonte | make the default font friz quadrata ;p |
| 20:08.10 | digix | lol |
| 20:08.15 | Beladona | very nice |
| 20:08.20 | Kremonte | why not? :) |
| 20:08.22 | Beladona | reminds me of magelo |
| 20:08.24 | digix | yeah, ill spruce up the character frame and stuff when i have time |
| 20:08.41 | Kremonte | i love getting little perks with the 3000 fonts i have installed |
| 20:08.45 | Beladona | question |
| 20:08.56 | Beladona | are you storing the xml locally? |
| 20:08.59 | digix | yeah |
| 20:09.08 | Beladona | the xml is on alla's site too right? |
| 20:09.13 | digix | uh huh |
| 20:09.26 | digix | :P |
| 20:09.28 | Beladona | with a php script you could allow anyone to type in their char id, and it could pull their data |
| 20:09.42 | digix | im by no means fluent at php, though |
| 20:09.51 | Beladona | I am sure people here can help |
| 20:10.04 | Beladona | I will work on it after work tonight |
| 20:10.13 | Tain | Help? Help? |
| 20:10.14 | Kremonte | i can help with the php |
| 20:10.17 | digix | awwww, you dont have to |
| 20:10.21 | Kremonte | i gots not much to do besides faaaarm /yawn |
| 20:10.24 | Beladona | I know I dont |
| 20:10.25 | digix | lol |
| 20:10.27 | Beladona | but I wanna use it |
| 20:10.28 | Beladona | =P |
| 20:10.33 | digix | hehe, okies |
| 20:10.44 | Beladona | you did an awesome job on the layout |
| 20:10.47 | digix | eventually, i think im gonna try to get the guild on with it too |
| 20:10.49 | Beladona | very impressed |
| 20:10.50 | digix | danka :D |
| 20:10.58 | Kremonte | mind if i nitpick? ;) |
| 20:11.07 | digix | dont mind at all |
| 20:11.08 | Kremonte | it's "Level %lvl %race %class" |
| 20:11.10 | Kremonte | not Lvl :P |
| 20:11.25 | Beladona | easy fix |
| 20:11.36 | digix | meh, i had "Level" in to start with, but i kinda prefer the "Lvl" |
| 20:11.38 | Kremonte | yeah but when i do that people bitch at me :P |
| 20:11.38 | digix | :P |
| 20:11.44 | Kremonte | Level is what it says in game! |
| 20:11.46 | digix | rofl |
| 20:11.57 | digix | but the whole idea is so i can customize my page!! |
| 20:11.59 | digix | :P |
| 20:12.06 | Kremonte | then make a new layout! ;) |
| 20:12.10 | digix | XD |
| 20:13.45 | Beladona | you have png images with transparency |
| 20:13.53 | digix | indeed |
| 20:13.59 | Beladona | ie may choke on that |
| 20:14.14 | Beladona | well not choke, as much as make it look like it pooped it out |
| 20:14.39 | Beladona | there are hacks that make it work |
| 20:14.41 | digix | O_o IE on my windows box only shows the xml..... |
| 20:14.53 | Beladona | mmm |
| 20:15.12 | Beladona | once you get the layout done, always comes the bug fixing and optimization |
| 20:15.17 | digix | tru.dat |
| 20:15.29 | digix | but this is one reason everyone needs to have Firefox, lol |
| 20:15.30 | Kremonte | tru.xml |
| 20:17.12 | Cide | that looks sweet digix |
| 20:17.44 | Beladona | LOL |
| 20:17.47 | digix | another problem is that the item data in the xml doesnt list an icon... the allah parser gets that from its own data |
| 20:18.23 | Beladona | <3 lhow linux uses all png images as icons. I downloaded your player image, and it is on my desktop looking like an icon |
| 20:18.33 | digix | heheh, nice |
| 20:18.38 | Beladona | you can fix that |
| 20:18.54 | digix | thats one thing i would like to do as well, have conditionals on race, etc. to display the proper icon |
| 20:19.00 | Beladona | you could make generic icons for male_nightelf_whatever.png |
| 20:19.08 | Beladona | and then parse the image name into a variable |
| 20:19.17 | digix | ive got all the icons i need ;) just need to add the code |
| 20:19.28 | Cide | what's it for anyway, digix? making a profiling site? |
| 20:19.33 | digix | kinda |
| 20:19.37 | Beladona | I think ti started as a profile for him |
| 20:19.42 | Beladona | but it is turning into one |
| 20:19.44 | digix | yup |
| 20:19.45 | digix | lol |
| 20:20.01 | digix | proof of concept to myself for the most part though |
| 20:20.05 | Beladona | see why I love xml data? |
| 20:20.05 | Cide | haha, sounds like it turned from a rock to a mountain |
| 20:20.29 | digix | hehe, im having a ton of fun with this though :D |
| 20:22.20 | Beladona | I have been using xml for most data driven sites lately |
| 20:22.26 | Beladona | xml/xsl |
| 20:23.12 | digix | hrm.... ok, on the item stuff... the item has a <div> with its id as id="i16693:0:1509" |
| 20:23.38 | digix | the 16693 is the item number on allah, dunno bout the 0, and the 1509 is the enchant |
| 20:24.05 | Beladona | hmm |
| 20:25.25 | digix | but you plug the entire 16693:0:1509 string into their item.html variable and it comes up with the proper item |
| 20:26.27 | Beladona | with the enchant too? |
| 20:26.33 | digix | no, its just the bare item |
| 20:26.38 | Beladona | interesting |
| 20:26.50 | digix | i dont think allah will display items with enchants on them |
| 20:27.11 | Beladona | I would get the items working without enchants for now |
| 20:27.19 | Beladona | can add that feature later |
| 20:27.25 | digix | yeah |
| 20:28.17 | Beladona | fyi, I just tested krka's method |
| 20:28.23 | Beladona | module generates an xpath error |
| 20:28.29 | Beladona | err, modulo |
| 20:29.59 | Beladona | too bad blizz doesn't provide xml based profiles |
| 20:30.02 | krka | yeah, wasn't sure what the function was called |
| 20:30.03 | Beladona | would rock |
| 20:30.07 | krka | mod or % might work |
| 20:30.11 | Beladona | mod |
| 20:30.13 | krka | or mod(a, b) instead of a mod b |
| 20:30.37 | digix | yeah, that would be awesome if they could provide the xml to us.... but that would be too nice of them huh? |
| 20:31.03 | Beladona | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.12 | digix | really? |
| 20:31.17 | digix | for EQ2? |
| 20:31.23 | Beladona | course I think Blizz has a lot more subscribers at this point, and has other things on their mind |
| 20:31.27 | Beladona | yea |
| 20:31.30 | digix | true |
| 20:31.42 | Beladona | when it came out I wrote a php script that got your data from their profile site and put it on your guild site |
| 20:31.47 | Beladona | that before they had xml |
| 20:31.53 | digix | nice |
| 20:31.55 | Beladona | was pretty popular |
| 20:32.07 | digix | however.... blizz already has the rank tracking on their site...... |
| 20:32.10 | digix | wouldnt take much |
| 20:32.13 | Beladona | had to include mysql caching as an option to reduce queries |
| 20:32.21 | digix | ouch |
| 20:32.45 | Beladona | it got everything though, full guild rosters, and profile for those members |
| 20:32.51 | digix | very nice |
| 20:33.07 | Beladona | was a signature script too |
| 20:33.12 | Beladona | but then I quit playing |
| 20:33.22 | Beladona | and gave someone else control of it |
| 20:35.08 | Beladona | fyi, mod works |
| 20:36.01 | digix | blah... the tags for the items are all the same and theres no order to them.... |
| 20:38.28 | cladhaire | I'm in the worst ZF group ever |
| 20:38.45 | digix | heh, those are plentiful |
| 20:38.51 | cladhaire | but its soooooo damn easy |
| 20:38.54 | cladhaire | they're just idiots |
| 20:43.01 | digix | ok, im retarded... i dont even need the <itemframes> tags.... theres a seperate tag for each slot that i didnt see at first... -_- |
| 20:46.00 | digix | ok, so each slot has 3 tags for it (using the chest for example) <ChestSlot>, <ChestSlotEnc>, and <ChestSlotSub> (not sure about the sub... but possibly temp enchant like sharpening stones?) |
| 20:46.42 | Beladona | probably |
| 20:47.07 | Beladona | sleepy dancers? |
| 20:47.10 | digix | the main tag has the allah item number and can be run through for its xml data with a php script prolly |
| 20:47.22 | digix | didnt know you could dance in your sleep :P |
| 20:47.51 | Cairenn | hubby is coming home, hubby is coming home |
| 20:48.07 | digix | lol |
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| 20:49.06 | Cairenn | 5 months since I've seen him last, I'm allowed to be happy :) |
| 20:49.13 | digix | oh wow |
| 20:49.22 | digix | he in the military? |
| 20:49.33 | Cairenn | you'd think, wouldn't you? nope |
| 20:49.38 | digix | hahaha |
| 20:49.52 | Cairenn | he lives & works in NYC, daughter and I are still up here in Ontario Canada |
| 20:49.59 | digix | ahhhhh |
| 20:51.10 | Cairenn | okay, I'll hush, back to what you guys were talking about, sorry for the interruption |
| 20:52.35 | digix | ohhhhhhh, the sub tag is for "of the <insert animal here>" items |
| 20:52.52 | Beladona | makes sense |
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| 20:53.04 | digix | sorry Cair, dont mean to interrupt your happiness :) |
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| 20:53.22 | Cairenn | you aren't |
| 20:53.23 | Beladona | would that be the center number in the item string by chance? |
| 20:53.25 | Cairenn | :) |
| 20:53.40 | digix | seems like it might |
| 20:53.49 | digix | im checking the xml on my warrior now |
| 20:54.02 | Cairenn | oh, one more interruption ... I don't see him in channel ... does anyone know if futrtrubl got his travel documents and is thus on his way home too? |
| 20:54.45 | digix | yeah, the center number in that particular string is the "of the" identifier |
| 20:59.20 | Tain | ~give Cairenn a cookie |
| 20:59.21 | purl | ACTION gives Cairenn a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up. |
| 21:01.16 | Tain | All she wants to do is dance dance |
| 21:04.43 | Cairenn | hahaha, cute ... http://netlaughter.com/boobies/boobies.cfm |
| 21:04.52 | krka | you haven't seen your husband in 5 months? how come? |
| 21:05.05 | krka | ok... I should read all of the text before I write stuff |
| 21:05.06 | krka | :/ |
| 21:05.44 | Cairenn | krka: in a good year, we see each other 3 times a year ... Christmas, March Break, and some time over the summer |
| 21:05.50 | krka | that sucks |
| 21:05.57 | krka | majorly |
| 21:06.02 | Cairenn | pretty much |
| 21:06.05 | Cairenn | 5 years now |
| 21:06.05 | krka | well, atleast if you like the guy |
| 21:06.40 | krka | any particular reason you can't move to NYC too? |
| 21:06.49 | Cairenn | we've been together (more or less) for 19 years now, just celebrated our 13th anniversary (apart, per usual =/ ) |
| 21:06.58 | Cairenn | waiting till kiddo finishes high school |
| 21:07.04 | krka | ah, I see |
| 21:07.12 | krka | how much longer is that? |
| 21:07.29 | Cairenn | graduates in June but going back for another 1/2 year to get some additional credits |
| 21:08.09 | Cairenn | and yes, there may be good schools in the US, but not for the programme that she is in |
| 21:09.47 | krka | omg you have a hot she-teen, we want picz0rz |
| 21:10.10 | krka | hmm.. maybe I shuold leave _before_ the kick ;) |
| 21:10.22 | Cairenn | the pics have already been linked before :p |
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| 21:10.51 | Tain | Yeah, but there was too much glare in the pictures from the dance pole in the middle. |
| 21:11.04 | digix | O_o |
| 21:11.58 | Cairenn | no you aren't :p ;) |
| 21:12.39 | Cairenn | http://www.cairenn-mmorpg.com/images/lyre/glamshot.jpg |
| 21:12.59 | Cairenn | that was .... almost 2 years ago now |
| 21:13.38 | Cairenn | yeah, 2 years, more or less |
| 21:13.56 | Tain | I have something wrong with my reading today. |
| 21:14.15 | Tain | I just looked through the post again saying, " The third exclusive interface by renowned interface artist Tom King" |
| 21:14.23 | Tain | And thought it said, "renowned racist" |
| 21:14.38 | Cairenn | Tain: let me fix your statement for you "I have something wrong with me" |
| 21:15.22 | digix | does anyone know where i can get good images of each race's shield? |
| 21:15.50 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/profile.php?do=editavatar |
| 21:16.42 | digix | hahah, i dont even think i have an account for wowinterface..... |
| 21:16.53 | digix | oh well, no time like the present to register |
| 21:16.57 | digix | :P |
| 21:17.02 | Cairenn | ! |
| 21:17.18 | Cairenn | fine, I won't give you the link for the original site then! hmph! |
| 21:17.39 | digix | lol, im registering though |
| 21:17.43 | Tain | I have lots of things wrong with me. |
| 21:17.55 | Cairenn | and after you are done, I'll think about it ;) |
| 21:18.02 | digix | im still such a n00bl3t when it comes to the addon/customization community |
| 21:18.12 | digix | hehe, okies |
| 21:19.06 | Cairenn | http://sonsofthestorm.com/gallery_samwise.html |
| 21:19.21 | digix | rofl, i did have an account actually.... |
| 21:19.25 | Cairenn | the originals are all there |
| 21:19.27 | digix | just dont remember ever making one |
| 21:19.56 | Cairenn | they were done by Samwise, who, btw, rocks ... he's fun irl |
| 21:20.16 | digix | oooo, very nice, thanks much Cair :D |
| 21:20.22 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 21:25.28 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Griddlebone (i=WinXP@c-24-21-49-34.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 21:26.00 | Griddlebone | Morning / day / evening. |
| 21:27.06 | Cide | evening :) |
| 21:27.40 | Griddlebone | Just making sure I had most of the time zones and sleep schedules covered. ^_^ |
| 21:30.07 | Cairenn | And for the uninitiated, Samwise is the lead singer for Level 60 Elite Tauren Chieftains. Mike Morhaime is their bass player, it was funny to watch him step up to the mic at the concert, introduce the band, step back, pause, then pick up his guitar ... |
| 21:30.18 | Cairenn | hi Griddlebone :) |
| 21:32.19 | Griddlebone | Hello Cairenn. |
| 21:34.19 | Griddlebone | Just out of curiosity... how does one define a 'Dev'? ^_^; |
| 21:34.55 | Griddlebone | Someone who write full-blown UI addons, or just anyone who takes a semi-serious poke at it? |
| 21:35.00 | Cairenn | yes |
| 21:35.04 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:35.15 | MoonWolf | im a dev i think. |
| 21:35.28 | MoonWolf | that is saying enough. |
| 21:35.35 | Cide | I would say Iam too |
| 21:35.38 | Cide | I am.. |
| 21:35.43 | Beladona | someone who can't sleep until theyr are finished with their current project - that involves an addon |
| 21:35.48 | Beladona | =P |
| 21:35.55 | Cide | sounds like a good definition |
| 21:35.57 | Cairenn | the reason we've got that there is to point out to folks coming into the channel that it isn't intended, primarily, as a "general help for end user" channel |
| 21:36.00 | Griddlebone | Okay. I've never thought of myself as a developer... more of a hack. I'm pretty good at tearing apart other addons and just taking what I want. |
| 21:36.02 | MoonWolf | Beladona, oh in that case i fully qualify. |
| 21:36.09 | Beladona | hehe |
| 21:36.17 | MoonWolf | its yust that most ot the time its something stupid/it doesnt work. |
| 21:36.33 | Cairenn | most of the folks hanging out in here "hack" around with code, to one degree or another |
| 21:37.15 | Cairenn | basic end-user support can be found all over the place ... somewhere for those working with Blizz's UI code to come together, help each other out, test addons, etc, otoh ... |
| 21:37.22 | krka | i wish i was more of a "hacker" |
| 21:37.34 | krka | i mostly come up with cool idea but get too lazy to actually finish building it |
| 21:37.38 | Cairenn | defined well enough for you know Griddlebone? |
| 21:37.44 | Cairenn | s/know/now/ |
| 21:38.31 | Griddlebone | I think so. I definately fit the "can't sleep until it finished" part. >_< |
| 21:38.37 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:38.41 | Cairenn | sleep is for the weak |
| 21:38.47 | Beladona | and the weekend |
| 21:38.47 | krka | sleep is for the week! |
| 21:38.58 | Griddlebone | No, sleep is for the blessed that don't suffer from insomnia. -_- |
| 21:39.05 | Beladona | sleep is for the dead |
| 21:39.07 | Beladona | oh |
| 21:39.10 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine (n=Guilloti@63.203.120.57) |
| 21:39.39 | Cairenn | lalalala, hubby coming home, lalala |
| 21:40.08 | MoonWolf | Alcoholic!!! :P |
| 21:40.09 | Cairenn | hey Guillotine :) |
| 21:40.15 | Kremonte | hm. |
| 21:40.17 | Cairenn | yeah, massively :p |
| 21:40.18 | Guillotine | hey :) |
| 21:40.31 | Beladona | its friday |
| 21:40.35 | Kremonte | telling someone to slit their wrists is AOK |
| 21:40.36 | Guillotine | yay friday! |
| 21:40.36 | MoonWolf | ~today |
| 21:40.39 | purl | sucks. |
| 21:40.39 | Beladona | do you know where your alcohol is |
| 21:40.47 | Kremonte | er, telling someone to slit their wrists and calling them a pussy is AOK |
| 21:40.51 | Guillotine | no, today rocks! its friday! |
| 21:40.54 | Guillotine | yay friday! |
| 21:40.54 | Kremonte | but calling someone a motherfucker in return = 3 day ban |
| 21:41.28 | Guillotine | lol krem. you got a 3 day ban? |
| 21:41.29 | MoonWolf | Kremonte, sucks |
| 21:41.30 | Tain | I know where my alcohol is going to be. |
| 21:41.37 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Iriel (n=daniel@e1h2p179.scotland.net) |
| 21:41.42 | MoonWolf | Get in ma bellly! |
| 21:41.43 | Beladona | welcome Iriel |
| 21:41.48 | Guillotine | iriel!!! |
| 21:41.55 | Guillotine | long time no see! |
| 21:41.58 | Kremonte | wb iriel |
| 21:41.59 | Cairenn | Iriel! hey :) |
| 21:42.02 | Kremonte | having fun in scotland? |
| 21:42.28 | Gryphen | chat.freenode.net/wowi-lounge |
| 21:42.36 | Gryphen | biatch |
| 21:42.38 | Gryphen | mt |
| 21:43.22 | Cairenn | it's okay Gryphen, I still love ya |
| 21:43.26 | Gryphen | w00t |
| 21:43.41 | *** join/#wowi-lounge AlexanderYoshi (n=Alexande@cpe-66-24-4-244.stny.res.rr.com) |
| 21:43.48 | Cairenn | hey Alex :) |
| 21:43.55 | Cairenn | Merry Christmas to you and yours :) |
| 21:44.05 | Guillotine | yup. happy holidays to everyone!!! |
| 21:46.14 | Iriel | Hey all. |
| 21:46.14 | Griddlebone | Iriel... who has that interesting 'Solution to drawing some of a ring' thread? |
| 21:46.26 | digix | http://digix.us/wow/profiles/digix.xml http://digix.us/wow/profiles/digix.xml |
| 21:46.27 | Cairenn | aye, that Iriel indeed |
| 21:46.34 | Iriel | England, actually.. but a scottish ISP. |
| 21:46.37 | digix | oops, that second one should be xigid.xml |
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| 21:46.45 | Iriel | (Sorry, dialup makes the forum go s.. l.. o.. w..) |
| 21:46.55 | digix | i got race detection working for the icon :D |
| 21:46.57 | Cairenn | Iriel, no problem sweetie :) |
| 21:48.04 | AlexanderYoshi | Yar, so this be where ye devvies hide these days? |
| 21:48.24 | Iriel | Mostly, except for those of us who ran away for christmas. |
| 21:48.35 | Cairenn | aye, you can find a fair few here by times |
| 21:49.22 | AlexanderYoshi | Christmas? Here on the high seas, we only have hurricane and mistletoe. Ain't so sure who we be kissin' in this mistletoe, but we have it none the same. |
| 21:51.14 | Gryphen | *poof* |
| 21:52.54 | Beladona | homeward! |
| 21:53.01 | Cairenn | later Beladona :) |
| 21:53.47 | Cairenn | okay, remind me to slap Bela when he logs back on ;) |
| 21:54.03 | digix | lol, whys that? |
| 21:54.10 | Cairenn | OMGWTFPWND :p |
| 21:54.17 | digix | XD |
| 21:54.17 | Cairenn | he put that just to tease me |
| 21:56.52 | Cairenn | purl, give Griddlebone a cookie |
| 21:56.53 | purl | ACTION gives Griddlebone a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up. |
| 21:57.19 | Griddlebone | Cookie! |
| 21:57.47 | Cairenn | yes, we are a very civilized channel, we have cookies. and pie! |
| 21:57.54 | Cairenn | purl, give Griddlebone a pie |
| 21:57.55 | purl | ACTION gives Griddlebone a home-baked pizza pie with ice cream on the side |
| 21:57.56 | MoonWolf | pie? where |
| 21:58.07 | Cairenn | purl, give MoonWolf a pie |
| 21:58.08 | purl | ACTION gives MoonWolf a home-baked blueberry pie with whipped cream on top |
| 21:58.15 | MoonWolf | YAY! pie |
| 21:59.00 | Cairenn | yeah, that's ... odd ... |
| 21:59.02 | Griddlebone | But believe me, I'll be giving it a try! |
| 22:00.31 | Cairenn | and likely to only be worse over the next week or so |
| 22:00.32 | Griddlebone | Should I try to make some more noise? |
| 22:00.37 | Iriel | It's all the christmas spirit, everyone's too drunk to talk. |
| 22:00.39 | Cairenn | naw, it's all good |
| 22:00.44 | Cairenn | lol Iriel :) |
| 22:00.51 | Iriel | Mind you, it's only afternoon there in North America isn't it. |
| 22:00.57 | MoonWolf | im not drunk, YET! |
| 22:01.01 | Cairenn | 5pm eastern |
| 22:01.08 | MoonWolf | btw tommorow is my birthday so then i will be drunk. |
| 22:01.19 | Cairenn | oh! Happy Birthday MoonWolf :) |
| 22:01.33 | Griddlebone | It's 2pm where I am, but I'm enjoying a bit of Irish Creme as I am not working tonight. :D |
| 22:01.42 | Cairenn | Griddlebone: :) |
| 22:01.50 | Cairenn | mmmm, Baileys |
| 22:02.20 | Cairenn | Griddlebone is female? |
| 22:02.35 | MoonWolf | no but you are cair. |
| 22:02.46 | Griddlebone | Is that a problem? o_o |
| 22:02.50 | Cairenn | you are? |
| 22:03.02 | MoonWolf | well Griddlebone could be too. but i dont see how you connected that setence to Griddlebone being female. |
| 22:03.03 | Griddlebone | Yes... |
| 22:03.05 | Cairenn | wooooooohoooooooo! Finally! I'm no longer the only female in channel! |
| 22:03.19 | Nomad_Wanderer | What? Women? Where? |
| 22:03.22 | Griddlebone | o_O |
| 22:03.40 | MoonWolf | <Obligatory there are no girls on the internet reference goes here> |
| 22:04.13 | Kremonte | even though ;'s aren't doing anything in lua |
| 22:04.19 | Kremonte | would s()a()b() work? |
| 22:04.20 | Nomad_Wanderer | Civ 4 anyone? I'm tired of arguing with this selectable list box imple. |
| 22:04.23 | Kremonte | instead of s() a() b() |
| 22:04.28 | *** join/#wowi-lounge groll (n=hoho@62.119.159.41) |
| 22:04.40 | Griddlebone | Evening Groll |
| 22:04.47 | Cairenn | hey groll |
| 22:04.52 | groll | elluu |
| 22:05.12 | Kremonte | anyone know? =x |
| 22:05.16 | Griddlebone | You went to BlizzCon? How was that? I had thought about attending, but am saving instead to go back to AnimeCentral. |
| 22:05.52 | MoonWolf | Kremonte, sure whitepsace means nothing |
| 22:05.58 | Kremonte | k :) |
| 22:05.59 | Cairenn | Griddlebone: it was fabulous but my reasons for going, and for enjoying myself so much, weren't necessarily the same as for most that attended |
| 22:06.01 | Kremonte | compressing macro further |
| 22:06.14 | Iriel | Kremonte : Yes. |
| 22:06.24 | MoonWolf | Don't know if that counts for macro's. |
| 22:06.39 | Griddlebone | Cairenn: *laugh* I understand, it happens to me a lot too at conventions. ^_^ |
| 22:08.22 | Cairenn | Griddlebone: aye ... I've been working in this industry for 5 years now, and Blizzcon was the first time I actually got to meet all my friends/colleagues/guildmates |
| 22:10.15 | Cairenn | BlizzCon itself was cool enough, I would have enjoyed myself regardless, but it was *finally* getting to meet everyone that "made" it, for me |
| 22:11.04 | Kremonte | grr |
| 22:11.10 | Kremonte | theres a delay between ignore/unignore |
| 22:11.17 | Kremonte | ./script function Aslad(n,m)local s,l=SendChatMessage,this.language for i=1,GetNumIgnores() do if(GetIgnoreName(i)==n) then DelIgnore(n) s(m,"WHISPER",l,n)AddIgnore(n)a=1 end end if(a)then s(m,"WHISPER",l,n)DelIgnore(n)end end |
| 22:11.18 | Kremonte | won't work |
| 22:11.28 | Griddlebone | Yep, I totally understand. :D I've friends that I only see at conventions, but have chatted with via IRC for YEARS now. Even got to go to a wedding once, which was interesting because I 'knew' half the people there. |
| 22:11.35 | MoonWolf | you want to send a fake xxx is ignoring you message ? |
| 22:11.42 | Kremonte | ? o_O no |
| 22:11.53 | Kremonte | this guy "Aslad" is being a loser and circumventing the ignore |
| 22:12.03 | MoonWolf | how ? |
| 22:12.04 | Kremonte | (unignore, messaging me, ignoring again) |
| 22:12.10 | Kremonte | so i want to automate it |
| 22:12.11 | Kremonte | ^_^ |
| 22:12.35 | Iriel | Just report him |
| 22:12.39 | MoonWolf | yeah |
| 22:12.39 | Kremonte | i did |
| 22:12.39 | Cairenn | yup |
| 22:12.42 | Kremonte | i almost got banned -.- |
| 22:12.45 | MoonWolf | this is verbal harrasment for sure. |
| 22:12.45 | Iriel | it's easier, and may have lasting impact. |
| 22:12.53 | Kremonte | he's the guy that almost got me banned for calling him a motherfucker |
| 22:12.58 | MoonWolf | he is doing it to you, not the other way around. |
| 22:12.59 | Kremonte | because he told me to slit my wrists 3 times now |
| 22:13.01 | Cairenn | oh, the guy that told you to slit your wrists |
| 22:13.04 | Kremonte | and kept calling me a pussy |
| 22:13.34 | Iriel | Why dont you have HIM on ignore yet? |
| 22:13.44 | Cairenn | that would be my question |
| 22:13.46 | Kremonte | because he said only pussies hide behind ignore..ironic isn't it |
| 22:13.59 | Cairenn | and you care what he says/thinks ... why? |
| 22:14.15 | Kremonte | because they pay people on the opposite faction to grief |
| 22:14.16 | MoonWolf | Cairenn, has the best point ever. |
| 22:14.18 | Kremonte | (his guild) |
| 22:14.24 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.40 | Guillotine | or tell him to type \nice |
| 22:14.42 | Guillotine | :) |
| 22:14.45 | Kremonte | lol. |
| 22:15.11 | Guillotine | i did that to someone who was being an ass. it old him "i bet your so stupid you cant even type \nice" |
| 22:15.13 | Guillotine | and he typed it |
| 22:15.14 | Guillotine | and got d/c |
| 22:15.20 | Kremonte | lol |
| 22:15.20 | Iriel | Hm, that shouldn't work. |
| 22:15.21 | Guillotine | so i was leader of the group instead :) |
| 22:15.24 | Kremonte | meh |
| 22:15.29 | Kremonte | *puts him on ignore anyway* |
| 22:15.37 | Iriel | I mean, the \n shouldn't be interpreted as special in that context |
| 22:15.41 | Guillotine | it is |
| 22:15.42 | Guillotine | try it |
| 22:15.42 | Kremonte | it is anyway |
| 22:15.51 | Guillotine | has been forever |
| 22:15.53 | Kremonte | its trying to do newline -> ice with no whitespace |
| 22:16.03 | End | thats's what I would have thought |
| 22:16.03 | Guillotine | right |
| 22:16.05 | Kremonte | just like a lot of the texts in the game are |
| 22:16.11 | Kremonte | |nYou are dead |
| 22:16.59 | Cairenn | have you guys ever /bugged that for Slouken on the forum? |
| 22:17.05 | Valek | hello guys... I have an <OnMouseDown> and <OnMouseUp> event registred on a frame so i can make the frame movable, what i'd like to do be able is when the frame is locked and the user click on the frame the game ignore the frame, so the user can lookup around and so... Is it possible to do? :) |
| 22:17.06 | Kremonte | theres been posts |
| 22:17.08 | Kremonte | "working as intended" |
| 22:17.11 | Iriel | Interesting, that must be a special 'feature' of editboxes, or some very peculiar editing rules. |
| 22:17.16 | Iriel | Cairenn : It might well be deliberate. |
| 22:17.20 | Cairenn | Kremonte: okay |
| 22:17.24 | Iriel | Well, the "\n" in LUA disconnect is working as intended |
| 22:17.24 | Cairenn | Iriel: aye |
| 22:17.34 | Kremonte | it is in chat, too |
| 22:17.48 | Guillotine | i think its deliberate |
| 22:17.58 | Guillotine | to stop ppl from using lines to spoof names |
| 22:18.01 | Guillotine | not that you cant jsut use spaces |
| 22:18.03 | Iriel | I'm not sure the edit box behaviour here is, but i'd probably want to test and see if it interprets other \ escape codes. |
| 22:18.11 | Kremonte | i tried a few |
| 22:18.13 | Guillotine | it doesnt |
| 22:18.17 | Guillotine | for exampel \124 doesnt do | |
| 22:18.21 | Kremonte | i would test again now |
| 22:18.21 | Cairenn | oh right, I remember that, that *was* part of the reason |
| 22:18.24 | Kremonte | but theres a queue :P |
| 22:18.25 | Iriel | Valek: Toggle whether the frame has mouse enabled |
| 22:18.26 | Guillotine | it just does "\124" |
| 22:18.29 | Iriel | Valek : I think it's :EnableMouse |
| 22:19.03 | Valek | nice... thx... :) |
| 22:19.15 | Iriel | I'll just check for sure |
| 22:20.05 | Valek | i was going to "hack" this, buy creating a new frame movable and toggle the visibility of that frame... :) |
| 22:20.14 | Valek | *by |
| 22:20.15 | Iriel | Valek : Yes, FrameName:EnableMouse(0) FrameName:EnableMouse(1) should work |
| 22:20.34 | Iriel | Valek : If 0/1 doesn't work use nil/1, but most of the C based functions accept 0 as false. |
| 22:21.29 | Kremonte | 0 should be false! |
| 22:21.30 | Kremonte | damn lua |
| 22:21.56 | Iriel | Funnily enough 0-is-not-false doesn't bother me anymore. |
| 22:22.06 | Iriel | I have accepted it into my life 8-) |
| 22:22.17 | Valek | by the way, did you search this on wowwiki? or is there a better place? :) |
| 22:22.39 | Iriel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API/ |
| 22:22.48 | Kremonte | i will never accept it |
| 22:22.54 | Iriel | Though I looked at the source file (which is on my laptop) rather than waiting for the wiki to load over dialup |
| 22:22.57 | Kremonte | nil null 0 false = false |
| 22:23.27 | Griddlebone | Does someone have a moment to take a peek at the addon I'm trying to make work, and tell me what I am overlooking? |
| 22:23.33 | Kremonte | Griddlebone - sure |
| 22:23.52 | Iriel | Well everyone, time for me to wander off. |
| 22:23.55 | Griddlebone | http://www.tabyk.net/wow/MyFrames.zip |
| 22:23.55 | Iriel | If I'm not back before sunday, merry christmas to you all 8-) |
| 22:23.59 | Griddlebone | Bye Iriel. |
| 22:23.59 | Kremonte | have a good one, Iriel :) |
| 22:24.04 | Kremonte | and merry christmas to you too |
| 22:24.05 | End | cya Iriel |
| 22:24.31 | Valek | cya Iriel, and thx again :) |
| 22:24.57 | Kremonte | what error are you getting, Griddlebone? |
| 22:25.53 | Griddlebone | MyFrames[wowName] is a nil value during load. I have saved variable issues. ;_; |
| 22:26.07 | Griddlebone | er have/hate |
| 22:27.48 | Kremonte | no error, it's just defaulting it, right? |
| 22:28.14 | Griddlebone | No, that is the error it's giving me. |
| 22:28.24 | Kremonte | hrm |
| 22:28.48 | Kremonte | add near the default variables (like servername, charname etc) MyFrames = {}; |
| 22:28.55 | Griddlebone | I thought I had written it so it would check if MyFrames[wowName] existed, and if not, initialize it... but the error suggests it doesn't even like it during the check itself. |
| 22:29.13 | Kremonte | its trying to access a key of a nil table, i think |
| 22:29.46 | Guillotine | um. the problem i think (though i havn't looked at it) is most likely that your doing it on load rather than on event VariablesLoaded |
| 22:29.52 | Griddlebone | Is that a problem? I've seen a lot of other addons do it without issue (where I learned to do that). |
| 22:29.59 | Kremonte | Guillotine - oh yeah |
| 22:30.03 | Kremonte | not sure. |
| 22:30.06 | Guillotine | it is if you are trying to access a saved variable |
| 22:30.13 | Kremonte | tables always give me problems when i'm trying to access a nil table |
| 22:30.38 | Guillotine | just do it on VariablesLoaded. usually theres no problem with that and it can solve so many problems |
| 22:30.54 | Griddlebone | I do, Guillotine. |
| 22:31.03 | Guillotine | oh |
| 22:31.05 | Guillotine | nm |
| 22:31.08 | Griddlebone | ^_^ |
| 22:31.19 | Guillotine | maybe ill actually look at the code... |
| 22:31.20 | Kremonte | oh, i see |
| 22:31.46 | Kremonte | try doing MyFrames = {}; just in case? :P |
| 22:32.06 | Griddlebone | Where, Kremonte? |
| 22:32.16 | Kremonte | Near MyF_Button_Tip = "MyFrames"; |
| 22:32.31 | Griddlebone | function MyF_OnLoad() |
| 22:32.31 | Griddlebone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.31 | Griddlebone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.31 | Griddlebone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.31 | Griddlebone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.32 | Griddlebone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.34 | Griddlebone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.36 | Griddlebone | end |
| 22:32.38 | Kremonte | i know |
| 22:32.50 | Kremonte | but it's trying to access MyFrames[value] before MyFrames exists |
| 22:32.51 | Griddlebone | Wouldn't that delete any saved variables every time I loaded it then? |
| 22:33.01 | Guillotine | no |
| 22:33.02 | Kremonte | no, because it's done before the variables are loaded :) |
| 22:33.07 | Guillotine | the saved variables override it after |
| 22:33.15 | Griddlebone | O_O |
| 22:34.17 | Guillotine | so what is that addon supposed to do? doesn't look like it does much at the moment |
| 22:35.26 | Griddlebone | It just moves the Minimap a bit. I've another one that cleans it up. They're both just bit-n-pieces of CleanMiniMap that I wanted to keep since CMM isn't being supported anymore. |
| 22:35.39 | Griddlebone | I'll probably add more things later on. |
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| 22:39.07 | Griddlebone | YES! |
| 22:39.21 | Griddlebone | I got an error, but it's a different error and I just fixed it. |
| 22:39.29 | Kremonte | so it worked? :) |
| 22:40.01 | Griddlebone | So far... now for the true test. Wipe out the WTF directory contents and try from scratch. |
| 22:42.21 | Beladona | Kremonte, was it you trying to get wow working? |
| 22:44.17 | Griddlebone | Yay! It works! Now I just need to get some of the spacing right, but that's a minor bit. |
| 22:47.06 | Kremonte | Beladona, i was |
| 22:47.11 | Kremonte | but i cant get gentoo working |
| 22:47.28 | Kremonte | ScytheBlade1 helped me with a good deal of install, but now i think i broke grub |
| 22:47.38 | Kremonte | and i fear xorg.conf |
| 22:50.05 | Beladona | lol |
| 22:50.09 | Beladona | its not bad |
| 22:50.28 | Guillotine | lol. have you ever noticed that the icon for the off topic forum is a skull? coincedence? i think not |
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| 22:51.48 | Beladona | mmmm, changing graphics settings = bad in cedega |
| 22:59.51 | Griddlebone | Hmm... minimap buttons are overlapping from the two addons... I should probably just stick them together into one addon. |
| 23:01.07 | groll | MEEEERRY Christmas from sweeeden |
| 23:01.45 | Kremonte | its not even christmas in australia, mate |
| 23:01.54 | groll | it is in sweden :D |
| 23:05.08 | Guillotine | haha. nice. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-bugs&t=93316&p=1&tmp=1#post93316 |
| 23:05.15 | Guillotine | kremonte, you want to try that with me? |
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| 23:09.18 | Griddlebone | Okay, MyMinimap now incorporates MyFrames (which didn't do much anyway). All is good, and it plays well with FlexBars and ScrollCombatText. :D |
| 23:09.34 | Guillotine | toasty! |
| 23:09.47 | Griddlebone | Thank you Kremonte! |
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| 23:14.20 | ToastTheif | yarr |
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| 23:23.15 | GriddleAway | ...much better. ^^; |
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| 23:47.59 | Valek | going... thx for the help... merry christmas... :) |
| 23:48.14 | id` | 0 == false? |
| 23:48.47 | Cide | no |
| 23:49.26 | Cide | if ( 0 ) then ... evaluates to true |
| 23:49.36 | id` | k |
| 23:49.36 | Kremonte | yeah |
| 23:49.40 | Kremonte | lua stinks |
| 23:49.45 | id` | ^^ |
| 23:49.46 | Depherios | lol |
| 23:53.23 | groll | Cairenn u here? |
| 23:53.33 | groll | and Beladona u too? |
| 23:54.26 | Kremonte | ChanServ is here |
| 23:54.36 | groll | no need for him :P |
| 23:54.43 | Guillotine | lol |
| 23:54.53 | Guillotine | what do you need groll? |
| 23:54.56 | Guillotine | maybe one of us can help |
| 23:55.01 | groll | i need Beladona and Cairenn as i trust them heh :P |
| 23:55.09 | Guillotine | you don't trust me? :'( |
| 23:55.11 | Guillotine | smart |
| 23:55.15 | groll | well i dont know you hehe :P |
| 23:55.27 | groll | actually i dont know Beladona to well either hehe :P |
| 23:55.39 | groll | but there is a lil bit more trust there :D |
| 23:55.47 | Guillotine | ahhh |
| 23:55.48 | Kremonte | op means nothing =o |
| 23:56.05 | Guillotine | ya, but if cairenn trusts him, at least hes a little bit trustworthy |
| 23:56.09 | Guillotine | unless its all just a big scam |
| 23:56.11 | groll | no but Cairenn i been speaking to a bit |
| 23:56.20 | Kremonte | ah |
| 23:56.27 | groll | you could do me a lil favour though |
| 23:56.36 | groll | do a tracert to www.amnesiaguild.com |
| 23:56.46 | groll | and tell me the ~speed |
| 23:56.59 | Kremonte | loading pretty slowly =x |
| 23:57.14 | groll | well i know the website is.. but make a traceroute |
| 23:57.36 | groll | my darn ftp caps at 70k/s kinda |
| 23:57.40 | groll | and that is DAMN slow :P |
| 23:57.43 | Kremonte | it timed out o.O |
| 23:57.54 | groll | i know.. it's not the website itself i want u to check |
| 23:57.59 | groll | it aint fully up yet heh |
| 23:58.03 | groll | i need a tracert |
| 23:58.16 | Guillotine | nooooooo. I missed the AV que :'( |
| 23:58.54 | groll | ouch |
| 23:58.55 | Kremonte | tracert timed out too |
| 23:58.59 | Kremonte | :-/ |
| 23:59.05 | groll | that too? |
| 23:59.25 | Kremonte | yeah |
| 23:59.28 | groll | where u live? |
| 23:59.33 | Kremonte | New York |
| 23:59.37 | krka | if all the people you can choose to trust, you pick someone who claims to be a female online? ;) |
| 23:59.47 | Kremonte | lol! |
| 23:59.48 | krka | i mean _of_ |
| 23:59.51 | groll | haha |
| 23:59.57 | groll | krka make a tracert you too |
