| 00:00.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm hearing rumors of a "Wrath of Cenarius" |
| 00:06.30 | id` | http://www.whataboutpp.com/ |
| 00:06.53 | id` | 2. Wrath of Cenarius (epic) – ring Use: Increase +132 damage for 10 secs |
| 00:07.02 | id` | not spell dmg |
| 00:07.10 | id` | still... thats mighty |
| 00:07.11 | id` | :p |
| 00:07.30 | id` | 1. Fist of Cenarius (epic) – 62.6 Mace 3.5 spd +40 damage/heals +2 crit spells |
| 00:07.31 | id` | my god |
| 00:07.43 | id` | spd+40 thats alot init |
| 00:07.55 | id` | oh, im reading it wrong |
| 00:09.23 | id` | can someone test my addon please? |
| 00:09.38 | id` | deps: ace, optional deps: IsMounted |
| 00:11.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Mmmmm |
| 00:11.17 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/data/idAutoAttack-1.8-3.zip |
| 00:11.25 | id` | what it does: auto attacks. |
| 00:11.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm a mage. |
| 00:11.41 | id` | thats good |
| 00:11.42 | id` | :p |
| 00:11.54 | id` | if you get aggro, it turns on meelee mode |
| 00:12.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 00:12.28 | id` | everyone shoud have meelee mode on during aggro |
| 00:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | That's bad ;) |
| 00:12.56 | id` | because you can cast and it will stop, and go on the second you finish |
| 00:13.04 | id` | and it also wont attack when you use Shoot |
| 00:13.15 | id` | and start attacking when you stop using Shoot |
| 00:13.29 | id` | gimme one reason to no have meelee out when you get aggro |
| 00:13.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I have mana? |
| 00:13.59 | id` | so? |
| 00:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | It's better off used than regenerating? |
| 00:14.27 | id` | ? |
| 00:14.39 | ScytheBlade1 | If I get aggro (as a mage), and have mana, I'd rather use that mana than...melee. |
| 00:14.56 | id` | if you use a spell meele attack is still active |
| 00:15.00 | id` | it wont stop being active |
| 00:15.03 | id` | thats normal |
| 00:15.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Triggers global cooldown |
| 00:15.36 | id` | doesnt |
| 00:15.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Meleeing doesn't trigger global cooldown? |
| 00:15.48 | id` | no |
| 00:15.52 | id` | its not a 'spell' |
| 00:15.59 | id` | its in your abilities pane sure |
| 00:16.05 | id` | but its not a 'spell' |
| 00:16.21 | id` | so, |
| 00:16.25 | ScytheBlade1 | k then, I'll give you an example as to why not ;) |
| 00:16.29 | id` | everyone shoud have meelee mode on during aggro |
| 00:16.31 | id` | :p |
| 00:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | A friend had DefendYourself! enabled once |
| 00:16.52 | ScytheBlade1 | walked near an opposing faction civilian :P |
| 00:17.07 | id` | do they aggro? |
| 00:17.22 | ScytheBlade1 | This one sure did |
| 00:17.28 | id` | well then it was his fault |
| 00:17.31 | id` | besides |
| 00:17.36 | id` | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.37 | ScytheBlade1 | It flagged him, and he was really quickly ganked |
| 00:17.38 | id` | and its off |
| 00:18.14 | id` | i just want to know if the addon tries to attack when you are mounted |
| 00:18.20 | id` | (and you get aggro) |
| 00:18.43 | id` | cause i have no mount :< |
| 00:19.30 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:19.33 | ScytheBlade1 | on any char? |
| 00:19.35 | id` | no |
| 00:19.44 | id` | my highest char is lvl 15 |
| 00:19.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ...lol |
| 00:19.49 | id` | i just did my first instance |
| 00:19.52 | Codayus | Heh |
| 00:19.58 | id` | DM |
| 00:20.00 | id` | :< |
| 00:20.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Good ol' Dead Mines |
| 00:20.14 | id` | we were on the ship and the fuckers leave cause two people die |
| 00:20.19 | id` | (and we had no-one to res) |
| 00:20.20 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:20.31 | ScytheBlade1 | What server? |
| 00:20.33 | id` | we like were at the alst boss |
| 00:20.39 | Codayus | Heh |
| 00:20.44 | Codayus | What class are you? |
| 00:20.56 | id` | warlock |
| 00:21.31 | id` | Codayus: wanna test it for me? :< |
| 00:21.48 | Cide | grr, two new stat rings threads |
| 00:21.58 | Codayus | Mmm, VC drops in there for locks. Lots of stamina... |
| 00:22.03 | Cide | it's SCT on drugs :( |
| 00:22.21 | id` | VC? |
| 00:22.24 | Codayus | Naaa, I'm technically studying. |
| 00:22.28 | id` | oh ic |
| 00:22.38 | id` | Cide: wanna test an addon for me? youll need a mount :< |
| 00:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7573/uiquestionmark9mq.png |
| 00:22.45 | ScytheBlade1 | That's good |
| 00:22.53 | Codayus | VC = Van Cleef (the last boss). Although a lot of people call the instance VC to distinguish it from Dire Maul. |
| 00:23.19 | id` | haha @ pic |
| 00:23.22 | ScytheBlade1 | That's good |
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| 00:33.55 | MoonWolf | happy new year and shiz |
| 00:40.27 | Cide | id`: not really :) |
| 00:40.33 | Cide | I do have a mount though |
| 00:40.44 | id` | k :( |
| 00:40.46 | Cide | I would test it but I'm working on our new site |
| 00:41.02 | id` | ow ok |
| 00:43.40 | pagefault | how do you shut off that pvp sound from playing over and over when you are flagged |
| 00:44.28 | id` | hmm someone the wowi forums dont mark unread posts? |
| 00:44.33 | id` | somehow* |
| 00:48.58 | ScytheBlade1 | pagefault, I just edited the FrameXML :) |
| 00:49.13 | pagefault | ScytheBlade1, ah I can turn it off in there somehow? |
| 00:49.41 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 00:49.53 | ScytheBlade1 | download the thing that allows you to extract it all, and go poking |
| 00:49.55 | ScytheBlade1 | it's in there somewhere |
| 00:50.04 | pagefault | ah cool |
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| 00:55.49 | Tain | You won't be able to do that in the future, I think in 1.10. slouken said overwriting Blizzard xml and lua won't be accepted. |
| 00:57.55 | Codayus | Yeo |
| 00:57.59 | Codayus | Er... |
| 00:58.00 | Codayus | Yeo |
| 00:58.04 | Codayus | WTF? |
| 00:58.06 | Codayus | Yep |
| 00:58.18 | Codayus | The keys move when I'm not looking. :-( |
| 01:01.09 | id` | what's the addon that sorts your inventory again? |
| 01:01.34 | id` | Codayus: haha |
| 01:01.44 | id` | Tain: so no-one can change fonts anymore? |
| 01:02.37 | Codayus | Through modfying the xml? No. |
| 01:02.40 | Codayus | But you won't need to. |
| 01:02.41 | Tain | Dunno exactly, id. Just that you won't be able to do it in the Blizzard xml. You still might be able to create an addon that overlays or replaces it. |
| 01:02.43 | Codayus | So that's okay. |
| 01:03.40 | Codayus | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=284479 |
| 01:04.00 | Codayus | That discusses some of the new font stuff slated for 1.10. |
| 01:05.20 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn|afk -> Happy New Year! |
| 01:07.38 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Tem (n=matt@ip70-177-40-169.br.br.cox.net) |
| 01:08.31 | id` | modwatcher.com pretty cool |
| 01:08.42 | id` | it had to come sometime |
| 01:08.43 | id` | :p |
| 01:08.49 | id` | hi tem |
| 01:08.53 | id` | happy new year |
| 01:08.54 | Tem | hey |
| 01:24.33 | krka | too bad it requires .net :/ |
| 01:25.02 | id` | boo-ya like you dont have that already |
| 01:30.04 | krka | nope I don't |
| 01:37.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 01:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | why not? |
| 01:38.47 | id` | .net is the future of microsoft |
| 01:38.52 | id` | --^ fact |
| 01:39.18 | ScytheBlade1 | fact indeed |
| 01:42.55 | krka | well, .net doesn't really work in linux |
| 01:43.15 | ScytheBlade1 | heh, sure it does! |
| 01:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | gogo wine! |
| 01:43.58 | krka | assuming you're using an x86 |
| 01:44.06 | ScytheBlade1 | vmware! |
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| 02:51.16 | Tain | .net doesn't work in linux? Don't tell the Mono or DotGNU people. |
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| 03:28.01 | pfault | GANKD! |
| 03:28.04 | pfault | lol |
| 03:33.28 | id` | heh |
| 03:33.29 | id` | :p |
| 03:33.34 | id` | 04:33 im out |
| 03:33.36 | id` | later |
| 03:49.49 | Tem | someone say my name please |
| 03:49.57 | Deph|AFK | Tem |
| 03:50.04 | Tem | thanks |
| 04:00.08 | MentalPower | Happy new year! |
| 04:00.29 | Tain | Yes happy new thingamajig |
| 04:01.23 | Deph|AFK | Merry Easter |
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| 04:01.51 | AnduinLothar | why look, iriel came on to user the new year in with us |
| 04:02.03 | Tain | I had Chinese food today to celebrate. |
| 04:02.25 | AnduinLothar | we always for fondu |
| 04:02.42 | Tain | Not to celebrate the New Year, to celebrate Iriel coming into the channel. |
| 04:02.46 | Iriel | Happy approximate new year to everyone (+/- 24 hours or so anyway) 8-) |
| 04:02.48 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 04:02.57 | Iriel | Coincidentally I made stir fry for lunch. |
| 04:03.03 | Tain | Yeah one of my friends was asking me what she should serve with the cheese fondue she was making. |
| 04:03.10 | AnduinLothar | iriel's not Pacific time, is he? |
| 04:03.17 | Iriel | I am pacific time |
| 04:03.28 | AnduinLothar | ya, we do beef fondu |
| 04:03.39 | Iriel | but since I wont be here at pacific time midnight, I figured i'd do it earlier 8-) |
| 04:04.21 | AnduinLothar | right, I plan on being in a blizzard game, which ironicly I've ushered every new year in with since jr. high |
| 04:04.29 | AnduinLothar | kinda weird |
| 04:04.48 | AnduinLothar | me and a friend always play a net game |
| 04:05.35 | AnduinLothar | might push a FriendsFacts update before then if people dont get here soon to play party |
| 04:05.56 | Tain | They were doing a Narutu Year's Eve marathon tonight. |
| 05:00.30 | pagefault | HAPPY NEW YEAR EST TIMEZONE! |
| 05:03.18 | Tain | Yay |
| 05:09.23 | pagefault | afk reason: afk |
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| 05:10.09 | pagefault | hello |
| 05:10.14 | pagefault | HAPPY NEW YEAR EST TIMEZONE! |
| 05:10.20 | pagefault | HAPPY NEW YEAR EST TIMEZONE! |
| 05:10.28 | kremonte | you're so 10 minutes ago |
| 05:10.30 | pagefault | oops |
| 05:10.31 | pagefault | haha |
| 05:10.34 | pagefault | yeah |
| 05:10.45 | kremonte | they skipped a friggin number |
| 05:10.53 | kremonte | 5.... 4..... 3.... 1.... HAPPY NEW YEAR |
| 05:10.58 | dvorakkey | anyone made the anti-ui? |
| 05:11.04 | kremonte | anti-ui? |
| 05:11.07 | pagefault | huh |
| 05:11.27 | dvorakkey | your worldframe is as small as possible, but your ui takes up all the space |
| 05:11.29 | pagefault | HAPPY NEW YEAR EST TIMEZONE! |
| 05:11.38 | pagefault | damnit |
| 05:12.27 | Tain | I think pagefault has been hitting the celebration sauce |
| 05:12.31 | pagefault | I was trying to get a lua script to work on irc |
| 05:12.44 | pagefault | to announce new year according to timezone |
| 05:12.53 | dvorakkey | make a joke screenshot, and ask people how to recover your ui |
| 05:12.57 | pagefault | haha |
| 05:13.01 | pagefault | brb |
| 05:13.43 | kremonte | good idea |
| 05:13.54 | kremonte | now what's a game whose UI i can steal |
| 05:17.48 | dvorakkey | UO or AC would match |
| 05:18.09 | dvorakkey | make UO bags textures and character screen |
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| 05:18.35 | pagefault | and yes I have been into the sauce too |
| 05:20.19 | pagefault | new years stuff on WoW |
| 05:20.20 | pagefault | oooh |
| 05:21.16 | kremonte | where? |
| 05:21.29 | pagefault | according to the main page there should be |
| 05:21.38 | kremonte | theres just winterveil crap |
| 05:22.10 | Iriel | hourly fireworks shows |
| 05:22.12 | Iriel | dancers |
| 05:22.13 | Iriel | booze |
| 05:22.33 | Tain | Now if they were in my living room I might be more interested. |
| 05:29.35 | dvorakkey | anyone ever use CHATOPENSLASH binding |
| 05:29.46 | kremonte | what's that? o.o |
| 05:30.06 | dvorakkey | opens chat with / |
| 05:30.20 | dvorakkey | check your keybinding options |
| 05:31.00 | Deph|AFK | it's the same API function as regular.. but with something added..... I forget the details though |
| 05:40.18 | dvorakkey | ChatFrame_OpenChat("/"); |
| 05:40.38 | dvorakkey | i'm gonna make some new ones, like ; and /script |
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| 06:46.35 | Ktron|2007 | woot, greetings from 2006, west coasters |
| 06:46.46 | Ktron|2007 | heh, not 2007 |
| 06:47.07 | Ktron | where are you Deph|AFK ? |
| 06:47.21 | Deph|AFK | Oregon... West Coast US, Pacific |
| 06:47.29 | Ktron | ah |
| 06:47.40 | Ktron | so only 1:13? or 1:12 more for you |
| 06:47.47 | Deph|AFK | yah |
| 07:05.03 | Cairenn | Happy New Year guys |
| 07:05.50 | Kolth | Thanks! You too. |
| 07:12.59 | Cairenn | Sláinte |
| 07:15.09 | Kolth | Maybe I'll go get another merengue cake! |
| 07:20.27 | Cairenn | I hope everyone has a wonderful New Year's eve and that if anyone is drinking they please don't drive. We'd like to see you around over the upcoming year. Be safe all |
| 07:53.56 | Cairenn | Aaaand ... Happy New Year's to the West Coast in 7 minutes according to my computer ... night all |
| 07:54.07 | Kolth | Only part of the West coast. |
| 07:54.08 | Ktron | night Cairenn|sleep |
| 07:54.36 | Cairenn|sleep | Kolth: only part? |
| 07:55.14 | Kolth | I'm West Coast and GMT-9 |
| 07:55.17 | Kolth | It's 10:54 here |
| 07:57.09 | Cairenn|sleep | ah well, Happy New Year when it gets to you, unfortunately don't think I can stay awake much longer here, the scotch is making me sleepy |
| 07:58.16 | Cairenn|sleep | so, g'night all |
| 08:00.21 | dvorakkey | it's gmt-8 |
| 08:02.19 | Kolth | It's also gmt-9 |
| 08:02.25 | Kolth | and lower |
| 08:02.32 | Kolth | But I'm talking USA |
| 08:06.27 | dvorakkey | ya its 12 already |
| 08:06.32 | Kolth | 55min togo! |
| 08:07.09 | dvorakkey | where you at |
| 08:09.49 | Kolth | Alaska |
| 08:12.17 | Deph|AFK | yaaay look it feels just like last year... but it's not |
| 08:15.15 | dvorakkey | its not like you jumped into another world |
| 08:17.41 | Kolth | Or did he? |
| 08:17.42 | Deph|AFK | curse you dvorak! |
| 08:17.53 | Deph|AFK | why do you have to have a similar name to my Main XD |
| 08:28.07 | kremonte | wow what an ass. "if you want to get banned from this fake general trade me 5g at mailbox in IF and i will ban anyone who do that so you dont have problem :))" |
| 08:28.16 | kremonte | when you can just clear your chat cache >.> |
| 08:29.00 | Depherios | lol |
| 08:29.17 | kremonte | ..omg |
| 08:29.24 | kremonte | so many people are giving him the money -.- |
| 08:29.30 | Depherios | oi :P |
| 08:29.41 | kremonte | and i cant speak so i cant use my macro |
| 08:29.54 | Depherios | yell it across IF? XD |
| 08:30.04 | kremonte | im in arathi atm =( |
| 08:30.11 | Depherios | ouch |
| 08:30.23 | Depherios | BOOYEAH! |
| 08:30.26 | Depherios | Logitech Fixed it! |
| 08:30.34 | Depherios | you can BIND KEYS to the left and right scroll tilt XD |
| 08:30.46 | Kolth | What'sa fake general? |
| 08:30.47 | Depherios | that gives my mouse 10 extra functinos XD |
| 08:31.36 | kremonte | jeez Depherios |
| 08:31.38 | kremonte | :( |
| 08:31.48 | Depherios | MX 1000 Laser XD |
| 08:31.53 | Depherios | I'm already using 8 |
| 08:32.29 | Depherios | strafe left and right, jump, backwards, mount, next/previous targets and a "shiftclick" button |
| 08:32.43 | Depherios | now I have two more :F |
| 08:33.08 | Depherios | next/previous friendly targets without a shiftkey? *considers* |
| 08:33.14 | kremonte | hahaha! |
| 08:33.28 | kremonte | i whispered the guy asking 5g for people to be banned from the fake general channekl |
| 08:33.42 | kremonte | and im like "and i can remove my cache file anytime for free on all of my characters" |
| 08:33.46 | kremonte | he tells me "omg tell me how" |
| 08:33.51 | Depherios | ROFL |
| 08:34.05 | kremonte | and i reply to him "for 10g i'll tell you how :-)" |
| 08:34.11 | kremonte | "wow u r a scammer" |
| 08:34.16 | Depherios | ROFL * 3 |
| 08:39.15 | dvorakkey | logitech mouse programs never work right for me |
| 08:39.50 | dvorakkey | i use autohotkey anyway, works for any mouse and joystick |
| 08:40.03 | Depherios | yeah |
| 08:40.12 | Depherios | that's why I'm happy logitech got it right (I use autohotkey too) |
| 08:40.53 | Depherios | their new software (setpoint) is MUCH better for gaming |
| 08:40.53 | Depherios | it actually sends proper UP/DOWN signals |
| 08:41.03 | Depherios | instead of just sending DOWN-UP when you push it down |
| 08:41.38 | Depherios | and now they made it so I can set keys to the wheel's left and right function... which there's no way to bind by default in the game |
| 08:42.24 | Depherios | nor have autohotkey read |
| 08:45.17 | kremonte | wooh, lua is good for one thing |
| 08:45.20 | kremonte | ghetto macros! |
| 08:45.21 | dvorakkey | autohotkey can be window-specific, so a macro could work for wow and not for other programs |
| 08:45.27 | Depherios | yup |
| 08:45.54 | Depherios | hence why my windows key, and alt+tab don't work in wow XD |
| 08:46.14 | Depherios | and my pedals control winamp when I'm out of wow, but are run foreward/backwards in wow XD |
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| 08:48.31 | kremonte | pedals o.O |
| 08:48.33 | kremonte | jeez |
| 08:48.35 | kremonte | wsad is dead |
| 08:48.40 | Depherios | lol |
| 08:49.00 | Depherios | nostromo, ergodex DX1, pedals, mouse... all have movement keys on them |
| 08:49.29 | Depherios | I got sick of doing it the hard way, and added another set of movement keybindings |
| 08:49.40 | Depherios | (so I don't get conflicting up/down signals) |
| 08:49.48 | Depherios | as easily :P |
| 08:50.15 | kremonte | grr |
| 08:50.21 | kremonte | im going to make a php script |
| 08:50.25 | kremonte | that removes the general channel |
| 08:50.37 | kremonte | so people dont have to lose their full chat-cache |
| 08:52.31 | MoonWolf | a php script to edit local files ? |
| 08:52.37 | kremonte | upload -> edit ->download |
| 08:53.32 | kremonte | hm, someone beat me to it |
| 08:53.35 | kremonte | ./shrug |
| 09:13.23 | dvorakkey | you know you can click on chat frame and have stuff popup and do other weird stuff |
| 09:13.55 | Ktron|sleep | purl, night |
| 09:13.57 | purl | G'night ktron|sleep, get out of here. |
| 09:14.16 | dvorakkey | shoo |
| 09:16.22 | dvorakkey | your combat log says mindless zombie hits you for 1 |
| 09:16.57 | dvorakkey | but i won't go on if no one's listening |
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| 09:57.54 | kremonte | lalaloolala |
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| 10:52.08 | kremonte | anyone around right now that uses cedega? |
| 10:55.05 | krka | <-- |
| 10:55.13 | buckaroo_banzai | there's always #cedega :D |
| 10:55.42 | kremonte | well, coz i've never really used linux much before (besides breaking gentoo) |
| 10:55.51 | kremonte | i'm at the cvs root |
| 10:55.56 | kremonte | what do i do now o_O |
| 10:56.14 | krka | dunno, I just installed the .deb |
| 10:56.21 | krka | isn't there a README or something? |
| 10:56.26 | krka | or INSTALL |
| 10:56.29 | kremonte | the compiled package you pay for? |
| 10:56.40 | krka | you probably need to compile it I guess |
| 10:56.40 | krka | yeah |
| 10:56.44 | kremonte | :-( |
| 10:56.46 | kremonte | k then |
| 10:57.31 | krka | ./configure ; make ; make install |
| 10:57.36 | krka | or something :) |
| 10:59.30 | kremonte | hwa? this is for installing wine |
| 10:59.49 | kremonte | bleh. google ftw |
| 11:05.16 | buckaroo_banzai | use debian! apt-get install wine @_@ |
| 11:05.23 | kremonte | i'm on ubuntu |
| 11:05.31 | buckaroo_banzai | ubuntu works as well |
| 11:05.34 | kremonte | and you have to break wine to get WoW to run, apparently |
| 11:05.37 | buckaroo_banzai | just sudo apt-get install wine |
| 11:05.41 | buckaroo_banzai | or use synaptic |
| 11:05.43 | kremonte | wine is installed already =P |
| 11:05.54 | buckaroo_banzai | well =P |
| 11:06.16 | kremonte | :-( |
| 11:06.30 | buckaroo_banzai | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92367 |
| 11:06.36 | buckaroo_banzai | dunno if you've seen that or not |
| 11:06.58 | kremonte | yar. compiling things scare me :-( |
| 11:07.27 | kremonte | well i gotta learn sometime! |
| 11:07.28 | buckaroo_banzai | just check out the wiki link :O |
| 11:07.30 | kremonte | off i go |
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| 13:26.19 | Kremonte | anyone on right now that's run WoW from the cedega CVS? :Q |
| 13:27.36 | buckaroo_banzai | ask in #cedega u_u |
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| 15:11.11 | id` | Cairenn|sleep: the wowi search is borked |
| 15:11.25 | id` | when i search for 'KC_Items' KC_Items does not come up |
| 15:11.36 | id` | But it is there |
| 15:11.37 | id` | :| |
| 15:11.42 | id` | (there, on the site) |
| 15:12.40 | kremonte | o.O |
| 15:12.44 | kremonte | you broke WoWi |
| 15:30.10 | id` | Can anyone help me with KC_Items? |
| 15:30.15 | id` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/preview.php?id=1139 |
| 15:30.18 | id` | I want this |
| 15:30.28 | id` | the info on for howmuch things are seen |
| 15:30.56 | id` | I am relatively new to wow and very new to trade skills |
| 15:31.06 | id` | i want to start making profit with tailoring/enchanting |
| 15:31.17 | id` | but i need to know the market for that |
| 15:37.00 | Tain | Well in kci you can turn on and off the different auction reporting items. |
| 15:37.31 | Tain | It will only see them if you scan the Auction House with KCI regularly, it builds a database of things it sees. |
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| 15:45.48 | Kaelten | hello |
| 15:45.52 | kremonte | heya kael |
| 15:48.01 | id` | trying auctioneer :< |
| 15:48.10 | id` | (and alot of stuff by fizzwodget) |
| 15:48.13 | id` | widget, even |
| 15:49.34 | Tain | Yeah I like the Fizzwidget stuff, I use a few of them. |
| 15:49.49 | MoonWolf | why auctioneer ? |
| 15:50.47 | Tain | I'm sure Kael has heard it a million times, but a lot of people use Auctioneer just because of the broker/bidbroker functions. |
| 15:52.40 | MoonWolf | ever since auctioneer had those functions my ah profiting has gone down a LOT. |
| 15:52.50 | MoonWolf | i wish they got rid of it again. |
| 15:53.27 | kremonte | what functions? |
| 15:53.32 | Tain | Yeah, it made huge profits for people for a short time, and then everyone was using it basically killing it's functionality. |
| 15:53.33 | kremonte | i'm not familiar with auctioneer :Q |
| 15:53.52 | MoonWolf | do you know kci ?] |
| 15:53.58 | kremonte | nope =P |
| 15:54.12 | Tain | It keeps track of auction prices on items over time, and you can run a report on what is currently in the auction house to tell you if there's something that's selling for lower than usual. |
| 15:54.23 | Tain | So you buy it, re-list it higher, and make a profit. In theory. |
| 15:54.40 | kremonte | theorycraft ftl! |
| 15:54.59 | MoonWolf | however, because auctioneer is so wide spread it killed all the profit to be made off. |
| 15:54.59 | Tain | It worked amazingly well, too well. Now a lot of people use it and you can't count on it. |
| 15:55.17 | MoonWolf | including for the people who were doing this by hand before actioneer came. |
| 15:55.18 | Tain | For a time I was using it and turning around about 500 gold a day. |
| 15:55.21 | MoonWolf | I.E. Me. |
| 15:56.11 | Tain | Now I just have my sweatshop of kids I pay five cents an hour to farm gold for me 12 hours a day. |
| 15:56.37 | id` | hehe |
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| 15:59.08 | kremonte | gday Cide |
| 15:59.11 | MoonWolf | Tain, only 12 hours, you are way to soft. |
| 15:59.18 | Tain | I know. :( |
| 15:59.24 | Tain | I can't help it, I'm a humanitarian. |
| 16:00.10 | kremonte | grr, wine hates WoW |
| 16:00.56 | MoonWolf | cedega likes wow. well not really , but it works. |
| 16:01.14 | kremonte | i don't understand cvs's though :-( |
| 16:01.17 | kremonte | google is no help at all |
| 16:01.46 | MoonWolf | i used this |
| 16:01.46 | MoonWolf | http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 |
| 16:02.26 | Ktron|sleep | define:cvs-- a convience store. |
| 16:02.35 | Kaelten | for anyone thats interested Ace 1.3 RC2 is up in our forums. |
| 16:02.43 | Ktron|sleep | don't think that really helps....hm, maybe Kaelten |
| 16:02.59 | Kaelten | I've also posted how to fix the issues with Ace 1.3 |
| 16:03.03 | Kaelten | yes Ktron? |
| 16:03.20 | Ktron | Kaelten: ie I may be interested in Ace 1.3rc2 |
| 16:03.41 | Kaelten | ah |
| 16:03.54 | Kaelten | ya the new hook system is introduced in this one. |
| 16:07.45 | Tain | Yay hooking! |
| 16:09.25 | Cide | hi kremonte (fast answer eh?) |
| 16:10.15 | kremonte | Cide is a speedy one |
| 16:10.19 | kremonte | hurray MoonWolf ! |
| 16:10.27 | Cide | you are correct |
| 16:11.32 | MoonWolf | kremonte, usefull ? |
| 16:11.55 | kremonte | wait, boo |
| 16:12.01 | kremonte | error in Make |
| 16:12.05 | kremonte | and nothing in the troubleshooting |
| 16:12.18 | MoonWolf | it worked without errors for me |
| 16:15.53 | kremonte | grr |
| 16:24.34 | kremonte | woot, found my problem, it doesn't like gcc 4.0 |
| 16:27.48 | MoonWolf | "I'm paper, rock is fine, nerf scissors. And the mushrooms!" |
| 16:28.22 | kremonte | NERF SCISSORS |
| 16:28.45 | kremonte | MoonWolf - thanks for the link :-) compiling now |
| 16:29.24 | Cairenn|sleep | well, noon hour, guess I should actually try to like sleep or something |
| 16:29.36 | kremonte | nah |
| 16:29.43 | kremonte | =P |
| 16:35.38 | Cide | what's that? |
| 16:36.01 | kremonte | 9mb program taking 100minutes to compile ... *mumble* |
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| 17:16.32 | Ktron | Alright, I think its time to try to ultraconfig my flexbar |
| 17:17.31 | Ktron | or maybe play around with Visor a little more first |
| 17:19.00 | Ktron | AceTimer is definitely one of the more useful addons for a shammy |
| 17:19.01 | Tain | oh good the Ace trac wiki is back up. There's a few really good Visor scripts under the Recipies page |
| 17:19.03 | Tain | https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/wiki/Visor |
| 17:19.16 | Tain | Create buttons/bars for you. |
| 17:20.17 | Ktron | heh, that's hardcore stuf |
| 17:20.19 | Ktron | *stuff |
| 17:20.37 | Tain | It's power! Power in the palm of your hands! |
| 17:20.41 | Ktron | heh |
| 17:20.56 | Ktron | the biggest power I'd like is the ability to make things draggable, I need to figure that out heh |
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| 17:31.01 | kremonte | grr, i am about to commit a sin |
| 17:31.10 | kremonte | gotta buy cedega since i'm lazy :-( |
| 17:35.35 | Ktron | so, visor question... why doesn't '/visor reset confirm' get rid of my visor changes? |
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| 17:36.30 | Tain | Good question. It should. |
| 17:36.39 | Tain | Let me check it. |
| 17:37.13 | Ktron | I ran the bar script, then wanted to get rid of it |
| 17:37.19 | Ktron | and the reset thing didn't make it disappear |
| 17:37.26 | Ktron | to my dismay |
| 17:40.49 | Tain | Oh did you reload after that? |
| 17:41.07 | Tain | The configs can only reset after a reload so it can let the frames go back to game default. |
| 17:41.57 | Ktron | ah |
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| 17:48.16 | Ktron | lol |
| 17:48.20 | Ktron | I deleted the worldframe |
| 17:48.40 | Ktron | this is quite possibly the best thing to do to someone ever |
| 17:48.48 | Ktron | it disabled my chat prompt, and all of my keybindins |
| 17:48.51 | Ktron | *keybindings |
| 17:49.01 | Ktron | I think I have to control-alt-delete WoW |
| 17:49.22 | MoonWolf | yes you will have to ktron |
| 17:50.09 | krka | just pkill wine |
| 17:50.10 | krka | :P |
| 17:53.32 | kremonte | krka- just bought cedega :( |
| 17:53.42 | kremonte | is there any way to just drop my WoW/ into .cedega and get it to work? |
| 17:53.59 | krka | kinda |
| 17:54.00 | kremonte | coz installing all 4 cds, patching to 1.8.4, getting all my addons and settings again is such a hassle :( |
| 17:54.13 | krka | i just copied my brothers directory :P |
| 17:54.21 | kremonte | cedega dir? |
| 17:54.22 | kremonte | >< |
| 17:54.24 | krka | no, wow dir |
| 17:54.31 | kremonte | yar, i have my WoW dir |
| 17:54.33 | krka | ok, in .cedega I have /wow/ |
| 17:54.46 | krka | in there, I have c_drive/ |
| 17:54.53 | krka | in c_drive I have the wow directory |
| 17:55.15 | krka | so WoW.exe is in: ~/.cedega/wow/c_drive/wow/WoW.exe |
| 17:55.29 | krka | now just startup cedega and set it up from there |
| 17:55.52 | kremonte | wierd. thanks :-) |
| 17:56.17 | krka | let me know if anything goes wrong |
| 17:56.29 | krka | i might know the solution to some things |
| 17:57.51 | kremonte | nothings showing up in cedega >< |
| 17:57.56 | kremonte | just wow on the left hand bar |
| 17:58.17 | krka | hmm |
| 17:58.35 | krka | right click on it and do add icon |
| 17:58.46 | kremonte | there we go! |
| 17:58.51 | kremonte | woohoo |
| 17:58.53 | kremonte | hopefully this works |
| 17:58.59 | krka | yeah hopefully |
| 17:59.06 | kremonte | what do i put under icon o.O lol |
| 17:59.20 | krka | skip ipt |
| 17:59.21 | krka | it |
| 17:59.26 | kremonte | ah |
| 18:01.13 | kremonte | wow was unable to start 3d acceleration >< |
| 18:02.53 | krka | hmm.. you don't have OpenGL+ |
| 18:03.03 | krka | try "glxgears" |
| 18:03.06 | krka | in a terminal |
| 18:03.19 | kremonte | it works, 12000 FPS too =P |
| 18:03.27 | kremonte | already set up for opengl too |
| 18:03.35 | kremonte | WoW, that is |
| 18:04.03 | krka | i didn't even need that |
| 18:04.16 | krka | then I don't know what it is |
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| 18:07.14 | Ktron | anyone here know how to fix .bat associations? |
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| 18:07.39 | Tain | Hey slouken, Happy New Year |
| 18:07.48 | slouken | You too! |
| 18:07.56 | slouken | Baby playing time! :) |
| 18:08.03 | kremonte | happy new year slouken :) |
| 18:08.12 | Cide | happy new year |
| 18:08.19 | krka | playing to be a baby or playing with a baby?.... or playing trying to make one? |
| 18:08.19 | Tain | Baby new year |
| 18:08.26 | slouken | Happy New Year everyone. ) |
| 18:08.28 | slouken | :) even |
| 18:08.40 | Cide | stop confusing me krka |
| 18:08.43 | slouken | playing WITH a baby. :) |
| 18:08.56 | slouken | well, kid anyway these days |
| 18:09.04 | krka | playing with babies rock! you almost always win! |
| 18:09.06 | Cide | starting early I see? :) |
| 18:09.08 | slouken | lol |
| 18:09.10 | krka | babies suck at almost all games |
| 18:09.16 | kremonte | lmao |
| 18:09.22 | Tain | Except for the fill the diaper game |
| 18:09.26 | krka | have fun slouken |
| 18:10.22 | krka | i would probably suck as a parent... too competative |
| 18:11.16 | Ktron | "Ha ha! once again I beat you to the dinner table, no food for you!" |
| 18:11.23 | krka | :) |
| 18:11.37 | krka | hah! I did this 9 piece puzzle like twice as fast! |
| 18:12.02 | Tain | My mother never let me or my brothers win at games. |
| 18:12.09 | Tain | She said it was better for us to learn. |
| 18:12.14 | krka | actually, I'd most likely just buy the kid lots of lego and then steal it all |
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| 19:42.25 | pfault_ | wow |
| 19:42.30 | pfault_ | that was the best WSG match ever |
| 19:48.58 | MoonWolf | how long, and score ? |
| 19:51.37 | pfault_ | 1 hour and 3/2 for us |
| 20:09.24 | Ktron | heh |
| 20:10.10 | Ktron | my favorite match, not the best but my favorite, I score all three captures, it was 3-0, heh, I didn't die and did the whole game with my troll shaman in the gnome disguise from gadgetzan |
| 20:10.27 | pfault_ | hahaha |
| 20:11.19 | Ktron | it was exceptional |
| 20:11.57 | Ktron | heh, it rocked too, ghost wolf form with the gnome disguise doesn't change your look, so I would just be a super fast running gnome |
| 20:21.25 | pfault | argh |
| 20:46.47 | id` | woot |
| 20:46.51 | id` | i was on a gryphon |
| 20:46.53 | id` | but |
| 20:46.55 | id` | i could move |
| 20:47.00 | id` | wherever i wanted |
| 20:47.02 | id` | kickass |
| 20:47.03 | id` | :p |
| 20:49.48 | krka | yeah, that happens sometimes |
| 21:04.06 | Ktron | that's way cool |
| 21:04.21 | Ktron | were you still airborne? |
| 21:06.42 | id` | no |
| 21:06.43 | id` | :( |
| 21:06.51 | Ktron | still |
| 21:06.58 | Tain | If only you could jump off whenever you want. |
| 21:09.23 | Ktron | heh |
| 21:09.24 | Ktron | maybe in the outlands |
| 21:09.26 | Ktron | heh |
| 21:09.29 | Ktron | AIR RAID!!! |
| 21:10.16 | Ktron | I just picture like 30 mages on air mounts jumping off above people and safe falling down for an attack |
| 21:10.26 | Ktron | heh |
| 21:10.34 | Ktron | frost nova, blink and air mount away |
| 21:12.08 | Tain | I'm just lazy and hate having to run back to somewhere I want to go when I fly right over it but cant' get off until town. |
| 21:19.23 | Codayus | Yeah, I want dismount abilities on gryphons... |
| 22:08.44 | Ktron | 'weee' |
| 22:10.40 | krka | hmm... the people who bitch about extreme use of OnUpdate should take a look at blizzards code... each actionbutton gets its own OnUpdate :( |
| 22:13.12 | MoonWolf | that is why we bitch about it |
| 22:13.23 | MoonWolf | take a look at the amount of onupdates spread over |
| 22:13.31 | MoonWolf | tons in the target frames too. |
| 22:14.00 | Tain | Yeah it doesn't mean anyone else should contribute to the problem. |
| 22:15.13 | krka | I think one OnUpdate per addon isn't too bad |
| 22:15.25 | krka | also, one event handler per addon |
| 22:15.35 | krka | one per action button is just silly |
| 22:16.24 | MoonWolf | one per all your addons should be enough (timex plug here) |
| 22:16.28 | Tain | It depends on what you're doing. Many people seem to use OnUpdate when they could be watching other events. |
| 22:17.07 | MoonWolf | I have not had a situation where i needed an onupdate yet. |
| 22:17.59 | krka | not sure if events always better |
| 22:18.18 | krka | some events seem to fire more often than OnUpdate |
| 22:18.18 | MoonWolf | The right tool for the right job. |
| 22:18.18 | Tain | Nothing fires more than OnUpdate. |
| 22:18.29 | krka | OnUpdate is at most once per frame |
| 22:18.32 | Tain | But your'e right that you shouldn't just grab an event and fire off of it every time. |
| 22:18.44 | krka | if you register to a couple of intense events you can easily surpass that |
| 22:18.58 | Tain | Just as an example this weekend I found out that PLAYER_AURAS_CHANGED fires 8 or 9 times every single time you change forms/stances/stealth. |
| 22:19.15 | krka | exactly |
| 22:19.30 | Tain | So you do have to have intelligent watching anyway. |
| 22:19.32 | krka | UNIT_AURA and UNIT_HEALTH for a full party should be pretty bad too |
| 22:19.40 | Tain | Yeah must be. |
| 22:19.46 | krka | ok... so where have Blizz defined their extra bars? |
| 22:19.56 | krka | right1, right2, bottomright, bottomleft |
| 22:20.59 | krka | ah... found it |
| 22:21.04 | Tain | Dunno, the only thing I ever needed to know was to make sur ethey were hidden. |
| 22:21.51 | MoonWolf | Only reason i even know the names is because of cardbars |
| 22:21.55 | MoonWolf | i love cardbars a lot. |
| 22:22.09 | Tain | Yeah I used cardbars until this weekend. |
| 22:22.15 | krka | hmm... maybe I should write my own actionbutton handling and make the builtin frames use it instead |
| 22:22.19 | Tain | I still think it's fantastic. Just a few things missing. |
| 22:22.20 | krka | and see if it's faster |
| 22:22.45 | MoonWolf | the only thing i think that needs to be done is more autohiding/showing options |
| 22:22.51 | MoonWolf | like the micro buttons and pet bar. |
| 22:22.59 | Tain | It probably will be, krka. If you just inheret ActionButtonTemplate you get the base stuff. |
| 22:23.25 | krka | no no, i won't touch the xml |
| 22:23.30 | Tain | They don't start attaching 100 events to buttons until later |
| 22:23.39 | krka | just write code that turns off some OnUpdate and OnEvent |
| 22:23.51 | Tain | Oh yeah. |
| 22:24.01 | Tain | I just have new buttons and don't turn them on in the first place. :) |
| 22:24.02 | MoonWolf | tain, so the visor buttons actually have better performance ? |
| 22:24.11 | krka | visor? |
| 22:24.27 | Tain | I don't know, MoonWolf. I don't know how to quantify that. |
| 22:24.43 | Tain | But I do know that Blizzard ActionButtons register over 30 events for every button. |
| 22:25.00 | Tain | VisorActionButtons do not, they only register the events you script them to. |
| 22:25.03 | MoonWolf | think moveanything then think more coplicated add some flexbar. |
| 22:25.12 | MoonWolf | then add rowne to the mix. |
| 22:25.24 | krka | too be far, most of them are triggered very seldom |
| 22:25.46 | krka | flexbar is horribly implemented imo |
| 22:26.03 | krka | (last I saw of it anyway) |
| 22:26.11 | MoonWolf | visor buttons are pretty good. i think. i never used them, because card bars does everything i want. |
| 22:26.21 | Ktron | heh, I'm trying to read up on keybindings, I'd like to make an add to allow combo bindings for every in game action... then probably add a small gui, think like when you change channels, that shows what keys are currently entered, and shows when it 'clears' by itself or something |
| 22:26.41 | Ktron | MoonWolf: does card bars do changes on Stance (like stealth?) |
| 22:26.56 | MoonWolf | Ktron, card bars takes your bars and moves them. that is all |
| 22:27.03 | Ktron | MoonWolf: that's what I thought |
| 22:27.07 | MoonWolf | no new bars only takes away the art and stuff |
| 22:27.25 | MoonWolf | if you addon works without other addons, it works with cardbars. |
| 22:27.27 | Ktron | MoonWolf: I've used it enough to see that and to see what it looks like, just didn't play aroudn with many options |
| 22:27.31 | krka | what do you mean by that Ktron? |
| 22:27.35 | Tain | These events are all registered on every ActionButton by Blizzard |
| 22:27.37 | Tain | http://ace.pastebin.com/486432 |
| 22:28.12 | MoonWolf | pastbin is getting hammered ? |
| 22:28.22 | MoonWolf | ah there it is. |
| 22:28.22 | Tain | Actually Cardbars is a little different because it doesn't register all those events on every butotn either. |
| 22:28.25 | krka | ouch... register on UNIT_HEALTH? |
| 22:28.30 | krka | big ouch |
| 22:28.41 | Tain | Which is why things like going red on raged abilities doesn't happen with CardBars |
| 22:28.47 | Tain | ranged that is |
| 22:28.50 | MoonWolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.56 | MoonWolf | why the hell on craft close ? |
| 22:29.10 | krka | hmm... UNIT_HEALTH seems to only be the bonus bar |
| 22:29.12 | MoonWolf | Tain, I like that better anyway. |
| 22:29.17 | Tain | I found a spot, oh I hope I can remember where it is, that they were registering like this |
| 22:29.43 | Tain | And one of the event lines had a comment, by a blizzard person because it was in the production lua, at the end of the line: |
| 22:29.46 | Tain | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.15 | Tain | Because of these kinds of events. |
| 22:30.19 | MoonWolf | some error handlings are simply --error handeling |
| 22:30.53 | Tain | heh actually it was in BonusActionBarFrame.lua |
| 22:32.08 | Ktron | krka: I'd like to add, either commandline or a replacement gui, to allow ordered key bindings-- like, bind 'c' then '1' to character screen, 'c' then '2' to say honor, or so on... also I'm sure I'd like binding to action bars, but I think it'd be nice to clear up the keyboard's bindings some... maybe b 1, b 2, b 3,... to bags (though I'd probably keep 'shift+B' to all bags)... you get the idea now? |
| 22:32.54 | MoonWolf | you want to make normal key' s modifiers ? |
| 22:33.11 | Tain | A two button press hotkey. So press c, let go, press 2? |
| 22:33.39 | MoonWolf | ah, like that. should be doable |
| 22:34.11 | krka | i see |
| 22:35.00 | Tain | I think so, I think you could make an empty frame to register the first hotkey to, and then have it handle the next hotkey press. |
| 22:35.11 | Tain | Interesting idea. |
| 22:35.50 | MoonWolf | hmm, interesting indeed, i would never use it but it sounds fun. |
| 22:36.08 | MoonWolf | kind a like the way tv's handle two digit channel numbers. |
| 22:37.13 | krka | do any of you know what frames are at the bottom? |
| 22:37.18 | krka | like the names of all of them |
| 22:37.22 | krka | I want to hide them |
| 22:37.32 | krka | (and show them) |
| 22:39.44 | Tain | I've only ever bothered with the microbuttons, and hide the MainMenuBar entirely. |
| 22:39.48 | Tain | Which is everything. |
| 22:40.00 | krka | ah thanks! |
| 22:40.09 | Tain | You have to either use a framefinder or look through the xml, or both. :) |
| 22:40.18 | Tain | Usually both. |
| 22:40.34 | krka | cool, then I could just hook mainmenus onleave |
| 22:42.22 | krka | hmm... we can hook OnLeave through Lua now right? |
| 22:42.25 | krka | or was that 1.9? |
| 22:42.57 | Tain | Yes you can hook them. |
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| 22:44.51 | Ktron | sorry I went afk for a little bit, MoonWolf and Tain you got the idea... I think for some of the less used functions I'd use it |
| 22:45.02 | Ktron | maybe more common too |
| 22:45.11 | Ktron | but stuff like... idk, targetting party pets |
| 22:45.27 | Ktron | maybe, P then F2-F4 or something |
| 22:45.42 | Tain | Yeah, I think it's a good idea Ktron. |
| 22:46.25 | Tain | At initial passthrough my own head I think it would be not that hard to do. But usually when I think that it means I don't understand it enough. :) |
| 22:47.58 | krka | you'd have to bind all those keys... and then just remember the previous key press, if any |
| 22:48.03 | Tain | I am going to think about it though because it's something I'd use. |
| 22:48.09 | krka | if previous = nil then previous = "p" end |
| 22:48.19 | krka | else do stuff and previous = nil |
| 22:48.46 | Tain | You actually should be able to bind just one key (to start out) to a frame, and have that frame's events grab the next key pressed. |
| 22:49.13 | krka | as long as that frame has focus yeah |
| 22:49.56 | Tain | Yeah I think I'm going to look int oit. :) |
| 22:50.46 | Ktron | heh |
| 22:51.13 | Ktron | I'm sure if you do you'll beat me to the solution, as I've no experience with keybindings yet |
| 22:51.30 | Tain | Me neither, it just sounds like fun. |
| 22:51.31 | krka | keybindings are easy, just look at someones Bindings.xml |
| 22:51.51 | Ktron | krka: but I don't really want to make a Bindings.xml that lists every key ;) |
| 22:51.58 | Ktron | well, has a binding for every key separately |
| 22:52.15 | Ktron | but that might be a must |
| 22:52.16 | Tain | Yeah the first keybinding is simple. It's registering the second one. |
| 22:52.23 | Tain | I don't know, I dont' think so. |
| 22:52.37 | Tain | But I shouldn't say without knowing. |
| 22:53.07 | Ktron | Yeah, my simple understanding of event handling makes me think that's there's a way to do it-- heh, I'm searching for a way to getkey or such for a key-based event |
| 22:53.59 | Tain | There's an "OnKeyDown()" you can have for any frame. |
| 22:54.23 | Tain | And it sends the key that was pressed as an argument. |
| 22:54.36 | krka | don't think OnKeyDown will be able to cast spells and stuff |
| 22:54.43 | Ktron | hm... |
| 22:54.53 | Ktron | well, maybe we need to receive the order |
| 22:54.59 | Ktron | and use onkeydown for the first key |
| 22:55.07 | Ktron | and use the second key to trigger events |
| 22:55.45 | Tain | Wouldn't be able to cast spells or anything that needs a hardware event, I dn't think. But opening menus, bags, anything you can script normally. |
| 22:56.29 | krka | yeah, need the bindings for spells |
| 22:56.43 | krka | or OnClick, that works too |
| 22:57.15 | Ktron | I think that this would be much better to fire on the second button press |
| 22:57.24 | Ktron | hm |
| 22:59.34 | Ktron | heh, I think having a hardware event limitation would drastically cut back on the usefulness... hm... let me think and poke a little |
| 23:00.54 | krka | well, you could just register for all keys :) |
| 23:02.04 | Tain | What it would buy you though is grouping together game keys. All the hotkeys to open different menus, etc. |
| 23:02.53 | krka | i am thinking of eliminating those hotkeys, seems unnecessary |
| 23:03.02 | krka | just have a small icon with a popup menu |
| 23:03.28 | Tain | Ah, I use the keyboard more than mouse. |
| 23:03.48 | Tain | In fact I'd barely use the mouse at all if I could. |
| 23:04.05 | krka | really? |
| 23:04.05 | Tain | As it is it annoys the hell out of me that you can't do certain things with the keyboard, only mouse. |
| 23:04.10 | krka | I play with one hand on the mouse and one of the keyboard |
| 23:04.15 | krka | you can't move very well with keyboard |
| 23:04.50 | Tain | I move ok |
| 23:04.58 | krka | you can't turn as fast as with a mouse |
| 23:05.15 | Tain | You can't do a 180 turn with the mouse as fast as I can with one hotkey. :) |
| 23:05.24 | Tain | But you're right, in general you can swing around with the mouse quickly. |
| 23:05.35 | krka | you can do a 180 with a hotkey? |
| 23:05.44 | krka | I tried to make such a hotkey but failed miserably |
| 23:05.56 | Ktron | krka: there's addons that do it |
| 23:06.10 | krka | mouse turning is really easy though |
| 23:06.14 | Ktron | I'm not sure if you can do it with just a script |
| 23:06.25 | krka | and 90 degree turns are really all you need |
| 23:07.07 | Tain | I can just do everything else faster with hotkeys than moving the mouse, clicking on something. |
| 23:07.32 | Tain | The only things I use the mouse for really are looting, which it's necessary and annoying, and targetting a specific target. |
| 23:07.58 | Tain | Or clicking on something I don't use much and so don't see the need to set up keys for it. |
| 23:07.59 | krka | and flying? |
| 23:08.12 | Tain | Yeah flying, mail |
| 23:08.14 | krka | tradeskills too, right+ |
| 23:08.16 | Tain | Vendors |
| 23:08.20 | krka | and buying |
| 23:08.24 | Tain | All that crap. |
| 23:08.32 | Ktron | there's no way to loot current target with a keybinding? |
| 23:08.35 | krka | nope |
| 23:08.36 | Tain | No. |
| 23:08.44 | krka | well, only if your cursor hovers the loot |
| 23:09.06 | Ktron | I'm surprised |
| 23:09.09 | krka | it's not the click that's needed, only that the cursor hovers |
| 23:09.27 | Ktron | so you have to hover the cursor over the target? weird |
| 23:09.27 | Ktron | heh |
| 23:09.35 | Ktron | scan the screen with the mouse heh |
| 23:09.44 | krka | hmm... or maybe it was just vendors |
| 23:09.56 | krka | no, I think it's all "right click special actions" |
| 23:09.59 | Tain | There are programs that can do that. But very ugly and slow. |
| 23:10.16 | Ktron | I know there's a 'scan' addon on for the minimap |
| 23:10.39 | Ktron | shrinks the minimap and moves it around under the mouse with alpha set to 0 to check for tracking targets |
| 23:11.08 | krka | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TurnOrActionStart |
| 23:11.14 | krka | this is what looting and vendors etc use |
| 23:11.30 | Tain | heh yeah it doesn't actually move it around under the mouse, it shrinks it down to tiny size so the map is small but your tracking icons are normal size |
| 23:11.50 | Tain | Basically they trigger tooltips even tiny, and you don't have to do anything but have the mouse over the frame. |
| 23:11.54 | Ktron | ah... I thought it moved it around |
| 23:12.03 | krka | ooooh! clever |
| 23:12.08 | krka | that's really ingenius |
| 23:12.12 | Tain | Thanks, that's why I wrote it. :D |
| 23:12.16 | Ktron | lol |
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| 23:12.25 | krka | np :) |
| 23:12.31 | Ktron | telling a author about their own addon |
| 23:12.33 | Ktron | heh |
| 23:12.57 | Tain | hehe it was something that didn't get a lot of use because it needs Ace, Visor, and Timex as dependancies. |
| 23:12.58 | krka | hmm... that could be used to remember where herbs and veins are too |
| 23:13.05 | Tain | But it really does work well with resource gathering. |
| 23:13.24 | Tain | It doesn't work well for hunters. Too many things on the tracking frame. |
| 23:13.28 | Elkano | happy new year everybody :) |
| 23:14.14 | Ktron | you too Elkano |
| 23:14.30 | krka | wow what timezone are you in? |
| 23:15.12 | Ktron | it'd be interesting to have it change tracking just before too, and see if you could get a mild PvP early warning system |
| 23:15.14 | Elkano | well, it's 2.1. for me allready, but I haven't been here this year before ^^ |
| 23:15.30 | Ktron | That was what I was guessing |
| 23:15.54 | krka | would be nice to automatically switch tracking modes and remember if anything was close by |
| 23:16.02 | krka | then have a frame that showed what stuff was closeby |
| 23:16.03 | Ktron | I am... GMT-5, and I'm over 18 hours... so I don't think there's any time zones left |
| 23:16.16 | krka | then you could toggle off the addon to view the minimap normally |
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| 23:21.08 | Ktron | I prefer pwn... and the question of the day, to yield much debate: pwn: mispelling of own, or derived from pawn? pronounced 'poand' (or 'powned') or 'pond' (or 'pawned')? |
| 23:21.34 | id` | own, keys are next to eachother |
| 23:21.35 | Codayus | Just a mispelling. |
| 23:21.35 | Ktron | I also heard it was pound + own |
| 23:21.43 | Codayus | I thought everyone knew that? :-) |
| 23:21.53 | Ktron | And I've heard that pwn is pronounced 'own' too |
| 23:22.03 | Codayus | (Obviously I have no proof. But I've heard that frequently.) |
| 23:22.09 | Tain | Who pronounces this stuff? |
| 23:22.23 | Ktron | heh |
| 23:22.25 | Elkano | btw: is there a way to 'abort' events? In my case I want to prevent specific whispers beeing displayed but the only way I would know is to hook the chat frame and have it just pass by. But this wouldn't work with unknown other addons also looking for the event (eg an improved whisper interface) |
| 23:22.35 | Tain | Is there a guide? I always wanted to know how to prounounce, "LOL" and "WTF" |
| 23:22.36 | id` | There's also the less used 'rwnt' and 'zwnt' that are deliberate misspellings of 'pwnt' -> 'ownt' -> 'ownd' -> 'owned' |
| 23:22.48 | Ktron | I through a snowball in someone's face before I went on break, and yelled 'POWNED!' upon impact |
| 23:22.58 | Ktron | my friend said 'slash agree' |
| 23:23.14 | Codayus | Heh |
| 23:23.26 | Codayus | That's either funny, or sad. Or both. Not sure which. :-) |
| 23:23.46 | krka | it's "power owned" |
| 23:23.51 | id` | Tain: i tend to pronounce 'lol' just as a word in english. and 'wtf' as something like 'dubbyewteeheff' |
| 23:23.57 | Ktron | Tain: I figured LOL and WTF were just pronounced each letter but itself |
| 23:24.00 | id` | hope that helps |
| 23:24.10 | Ktron | *by |
| 23:24.14 | Tain | At least i know how to pronounce "ROFL" |
| 23:24.23 | Ktron | power owned I could see too |
| 23:24.36 | Ktron | 'rofl' I think it definitely rof-ell |
| 23:24.41 | Codayus | I normally say "wtf" has "what the ef", usually not on purpose but because I've started saying the words, then decided I don't want to say it out loud about halfway through. <shrug> Works well enough. |
| 23:24.47 | krka | I pronounce WTF: Whatef with a very short e |
| 23:24.48 | Codayus | I don't say it often though. |
| 23:24.54 | Tain | I prefer to consider it, "illiteracy" |
| 23:24.55 | krka | more like whatf |
| 23:25.11 | Codayus | I'd never even consider trying to pronounce "rofl", but then, I never type it either. |
| 23:25.15 | Codayus | I have standards. :-P |
| 23:25.39 | Ktron | yeah, I don't use rofl... I'm deriving rofl mostly from hearing roflcopter pronounced |
| 23:25.45 | krka | rofl is pronounced rofl |
| 23:25.46 | Ktron | heh, just like lmaonade |
| 23:25.46 | krka | easy |
| 23:26.03 | Codayus | I've never heard "lol" pronoucned letter my letter...always more like "lawl". |
| 23:26.04 | Ktron | lmaonade is my favorite to date |
| 23:26.15 | Codayus | ? |
| 23:26.19 | Ktron | Codayus: yeah, I've heard that time to time |
| 23:26.22 | krka | lollerskates! |
| 23:26.43 | Codayus | Now, pronouncing "zomg" is trickier. |
| 23:26.54 | id` | not in dutch :-) |
| 23:27.01 | Codayus | Oh? |
| 23:27.06 | krka | n00b is hard... I say enzerozerobee |
| 23:27.23 | Ktron | zomg I say 'Zo em gee' |
| 23:27.34 | Codayus | I just pronounce it "noob". |
| 23:27.34 | Ktron | or sometimes 'zom g' |
| 23:27.49 | Ktron | and that's a g sound not, 'gee' |
| 23:27.57 | Ktron | and n00b is noob is newb in pronouncation for mer |
| 23:27.58 | Ktron | *me |
| 23:28.16 | Codayus | My tendency is to try and pronounce it with a hard g sound, but that just sounds weird. |
| 23:28.25 | Ktron | Codayus: yeah |
| 23:28.30 | Codayus | Like you got halfway trhough a normal word and swallowed your tongue or something. |
| 23:28.33 | Ktron | sometimes I go for 'Zo my god' too |
| 23:28.47 | krka | Oh my Earth Mother FTW |
| 23:28.52 | Codayus | Yeah, that kinds works, but it sounds weird. Kinda french, or something. |
| 23:29.00 | Tain | I hate you all |
| 23:29.05 | Codayus | ? |
| 23:29.11 | Ktron | I don't ever say 'eff tee double u' or 'eff tee ell' though |
| 23:29.15 | krka | omg lolzorz @ tain! |
| 23:29.21 | Codayus | Naaa, that just sounds silly. |
| 23:29.31 | id` | it pwnzorz teh big-one!!111111-eleventy-one |
| 23:29.34 | id` | with that |
| 23:29.37 | id` | i am off to bed |
| 23:29.40 | Ktron | lol |
| 23:29.47 | krka | if the abbreviation takes longer to pronounce to say than the original, say the original |
| 23:29.50 | krka | which is almost always |
| 23:29.56 | Codayus | Yep. |
| 23:30.01 | id` | work at 9 |
| 23:30.04 | id` | boss's BMW |
| 23:30.05 | id` | T_T |
| 23:30.21 | krka | Being a Mean Weirdo? |
| 23:30.21 | Ktron | nah, most letters are 1 syllable, just W |
| 23:30.32 | krka | so are most words :P |
| 23:30.34 | krka | oh <-- 1 |
| 23:30.37 | krka | my <-- 1 |
| 23:30.39 | krka | god <-- 1 |
| 23:31.18 | Ktron | laughing out loud, rolling on the floor laughing, laughing my ass off... |
| 23:31.26 | Codayus | Besides, trying to say out loud to someone "zomg wtf bbq that pwnzored!!11!" is really kind of fun...well, fun to watch, anyhow. :-) |
| 23:31.38 | Ktron | yeah, slash agree with Codayus |
| 23:31.57 | krka | hmm.. I will try to start the trend "LOL out loud!" |
| 23:32.09 | krka | then people will start shortening it to lolol |
| 23:32.11 | Codayus | It just works better in print, somehow... |
| 23:32.20 | Ktron | heh, and pwn isn't even a real word heh |
| 23:32.33 | Ktron | yeah, obviously they are meant to be typed |
| 23:32.56 | Codayus | Hmm, WoW needs leets. :-) |
| 23:32.58 | krka | or ROFL on the floor! |
| 23:33.16 | Ktron | roflof? |
| 23:33.32 | Ktron | heh |
| 23:34.00 | Ktron | what we should really do, is take words that are typed frequently and replace them with easily typed letters |
| 23:34.09 | krka | this is probably just a swedish thing, but here people type lal and lel and lael and laeaeaeael and stuff |
| 23:34.12 | krka | very weird |
| 23:34.21 | Ktron | like, 'z' from now on should be a viable substitute for all conjagations of the verb 'to be' |
| 23:34.31 | krka | z or not z |
| 23:34.37 | krka | that z the q |
| 23:34.59 | Ktron | heh krka z right on |
| 23:35.12 | Ktron | and negatives, we'll use x |
| 23:35.17 | Ktron | so... z or x z |
| 23:35.42 | krka | y does x this seem z such a good idea? |
| 23:35.47 | Ktron | z || x z si a little bit too hard to type |
| 23:36.00 | krka | or -> o, and -> a |
| 23:36.23 | krka | z o x z, that z t q |
| 23:36.24 | Ktron | krka you mean 'y does this x seem like it z a good idea?' |
| 23:36.39 | krka | does x = doesn't |
| 23:36.47 | krka | hmm |
| 23:36.48 | krka | never mind |
| 23:37.08 | Ktron | krka: I got it, that works |
| 23:37.26 | krka | I will short it to dox |
| 23:37.31 | Ktron | I think if we were going to take this seriously, than there would z x place for words like 'the' |
| 23:37.39 | Ktron | maybe use 'p' for possession |
| 23:37.52 | Ktron | Sallie z going to store in p car |
| 23:37.57 | krka | the is an unnessecary word |
| 23:38.05 | Ktron | yeah, exactly krka |
| 23:38.11 | krka | just skip it entirely |
| 23:38.25 | Ktron | we need a 'positive' character too |
| 23:38.29 | krka | + |
| 23:38.39 | Ktron | + is a pain to type |
| 23:38.45 | krka | uhm no |
| 23:38.58 | Ktron | it takes 2 key presses |
| 23:39.01 | krka | one for me |
| 23:39.05 | Ktron | on the keypad?? |
| 23:39.06 | krka | i can + all night long |
| 23:39.08 | krka | +++++ |
| 23:39.09 | krka | no |
| 23:39.16 | krka | women all love my + skillz |
| 23:39.34 | Ktron | heh, well, most keyboards don't have a + key besides the keypad and shift with = |
| 23:39.37 | krka | my + is above the o and p |
| 23:39.42 | krka | together with ? and \ |
| 23:39.49 | krka | shift + = ? |
| 23:39.49 | Ktron | heh, dvorak keyboard? |
| 23:39.55 | krka | swedish |
| 23:40.06 | Ktron | hold shift and hit the '=' key and on us keyboards you get + |
| 23:40.11 | krka | \ and / is a bitch for me though :( |
| 23:40.16 | Ktron | ah, swedish would do it |
| 23:40.27 | krka | shift 0 is = to me |
| 23:40.45 | krka | alt-gr 0 is } |
| 23:40.47 | Ktron | maybe 't' for a positive |
| 23:40.56 | krka | y t? |
| 23:41.03 | Ktron | [t]rue? |
| 23:41.08 | krka | i sug p |
| 23:41.52 | Ktron | and t is well placed on us and dvoraks... p is a little more out of the way, and if we're going to choose p, we need a new possession character |
| 23:42.10 | Elkano | my + ist right next to my ü ;) |
| 23:42.11 | krka | why do we need one? |
| 23:42.30 | krka | ewww groß |
| 23:43.08 | krka | ü is " + u |
| 23:43.16 | krka | alt-gr + s = ß |
| 23:43.22 | krka | alt-gr + e = ¤ |
| 23:43.22 | Ktron | 'my' 'his' 'her' 'your' 'their' 'our'... they're pretty comming works |
| 23:43.53 | Ktron | *words |
| 23:44.25 | Ktron | maybe we should leave them alone |
| 23:44.47 | krka | heh |
| 23:44.50 | Ktron | I'm all for t and x though for positive and negative, though I guess p and x is okay |
| 23:47.17 | Ktron | I'm also lefthanded heh |
| 23:47.23 | Ktron | let's go with p and x |
