| 00:05.52 | futrtrubl | later guys, gone to eat |
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| 00:06.27 | Flisher_Coding | Got a new tip when logging to the game, it seem that the "Alt" self cast is a builtin feature now |
| 00:06.41 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.16 | GenNMX | Tip: A Priest, a Paladin, and Varithimas walk into a bar... |
| 00:08.45 | GenNMX | And that's from the default tips ;) |
| 00:09.11 | cladhaire | Maldivia: Did you post yet? |
| 00:09.27 | Maldivia | cladhaire: not yet |
| 00:09.31 | Maldivia | was testing some mor |
| 00:09.33 | Maldivia | e |
| 00:10.24 | Maldivia | tested all the ranks of buff spells, castable on other, on my mage - now trying the same on my priest :) |
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| 00:15.14 | Flisher_Coding | is it possible that some API call return different stuff on a original load, and a reloadui? |
| 00:17.46 | Maldivia | such as? |
| 00:17.53 | zespri | i guess nobody but blizz can answer that, but I think you can create a small sample with the function in question and test it |
| 00:19.04 | Flisher_Coding | Gonna test it |
| 00:19.13 | Maldivia | well, which API call are you refering to ? |
| 00:19.43 | Maldivia | cladhaire: and yes - posted now |
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| 00:20.44 | Flisher_Coding | Anyone know a tga viewer? |
| 00:21.01 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:21.15 | Maldivia | if you want a freeware: irfanview |
| 00:21.31 | zespri | Flisher, I normaly use ac/dc for all image formates. it's not freeware though |
| 00:21.48 | Maldivia | ACDSee is nice, yes |
| 00:22.05 | ToastTheif | hmm |
| 00:22.13 | ToastTheif | Kael or Industrial need to show up |
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| 00:29.41 | Flisher_Coding | Anyone got the ingame tip: "A priest, a Paladin, and a varimathas get into a bar..." |
| 00:29.44 | Flisher_Coding | I don't get it |
| 00:33.05 | Flisher_Coding | OnLoad even, allwo you to retrive your name, but sometime not your IsInRaid and UnitFaction.... but you get them on a reloadui... Blizzard is impressive |
| 00:34.10 | Flisher_Coding | what event is called lather than Onload? Loaded Variable? |
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| 00:35.06 | Maldivia | variables loaded, player entering world, or addon loaded might be good events to use instead |
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| 00:36.21 | Flisher_Coding | gonna try them. This one is very boring to test since it imply loging in / out instead of a reloadui :-P |
| 00:36.29 | Maldivia | and well, on a reloadui - all the states about your character are already present in the client, so the API have access to the info... where as in first load, it has to be fetched from the server |
| 00:36.50 | Flisher_Coding | yep |
| 00:36.58 | pagefault | wow |
| 00:37.01 | pagefault | soul burn is SO sexy in 1.9 |
| 00:37.08 | pagefault | err |
| 00:37.10 | pagefault | shadow burn |
| 00:37.30 | Flisher_Coding | But I think I'll workaround this by turning the Widget off by default, soo you need to "activate" it to be displayed, soo the widget can initialise according to the faction. |
| 00:38.19 | Maldivia | at player entering world - your faction should be available |
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| 00:38.33 | Shouryuu | can't sleep =( |
| 00:38.34 | Maldivia | just remember, that player entering world fires everytime you zone |
| 00:39.14 | Gryphen | Flisher never heard the multitude of "...walk into a bar" jokes? |
| 00:39.27 | Flisher_Coding | yeah, but as a Blizzard tip.... |
| 00:40.28 | Guillotine | Help: is there any way to force the xp for a kill to continue appearing even after you are level 60? If not, does anyone know the formula for how much xp you get? |
| 00:40.29 | Shouryuu | ohh gryphen is here |
| 00:40.30 | Shouryuu | rawr |
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| 00:41.09 | Gryphen | i only have that on my work comp |
| 00:41.25 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 00:42.31 | Shouryuu | arghh I have a dl stuck at 99.6% |
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| 00:48.29 | Osagasu | Did Bela even show his mug today? |
| 00:48.46 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 00:48.55 | Shouryuu | I was thinking the exact same thing |
| 00:49.02 | Shouryuu | but it seems like he has a life |
| 00:49.04 | Shouryuu | loser... |
| 00:49.23 | Osagasu | Lives are overrated |
| 00:49.34 | Osagasu | If I had a life I wouldn't have met you guys |
| 00:49.37 | Shouryuu | agreed |
| 00:51.13 | Shouryuu | ~emulate shouryuu |
| 00:51.17 | purl | hi. im shouryuu. hehe. shouryuu |
| 00:53.55 | Maldivia | could have fooled me.. |
| 00:54.00 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 00:55.15 | Shouryuu | well gonna try and sleep |
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| 00:58.51 | AnduinLothar | omg, that movie is so f***ed up |
| 00:59.40 | AnduinLothar | Swimming with Sharks |
| 01:04.48 | Tain | Gah finally found my Kill Bill vol1 DVD. Been looking for it for two days. |
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| 01:24.03 | GenNMX | Does WatchDog have an "Efficient Heal" custom function? |
| 01:25.57 | cladhaire | no |
| 01:26.06 | cladhaire | someone just sent me a bunch of code tho |
| 01:26.14 | cladhaire | i'm not planinng on putting it in.. but i could put it up on the wiki for ya |
| 01:26.35 | GenNMX | Cool, that's the only reason I was using CastParty. |
| 01:27.09 | cladhaire | you can just use AceHeal for those functinos, they're really low overhead |
| 01:27.10 | Codayus | Another alternative would be to use AceHeal, which already does, and works fine with Watchdog. <shrug> |
| 01:27.13 | Codayus | .... |
| 01:27.20 | cladhaire | exactly |
| 01:27.22 | Codayus | pwned! I'm too slow. :-( |
| 01:27.32 | GenNMX | Oh yeah, forgot AceHeal can do that. |
| 01:27.45 | cladhaire | http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=403 |
| 01:27.55 | GenNMX | Or I should say, forgot about AceHeal even though I have it installed... |
| 01:27.59 | Codayus | Heh |
| 01:28.27 | GenNMX | Does it work with WatchDog? It doesn't have the lua file for it. |
| 01:28.37 | Codayus | You don't need that. |
| 01:28.51 | Codayus | Watchdog clickcasting will call any function you want |
| 01:29.00 | GenNMX | Oh right, duh. |
| 01:29.14 | Codayus | http://www.wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=5809#5809 |
| 01:29.36 | Corrodias | hmm, efficient heals |
| 01:29.38 | Corrodias | an interesting concept |
| 01:30.06 | Corrodias | if he has only 500 health missing, you only cast the 500-health heal. unfortunately, he's being pounded by mobs, and in the time it takes you to cast the spell, he loses another 800 |
| 01:31.16 | GenNMX | Well, there's Efficient Heals, and there are Normal Heals, Corrodias. You use what's appropriate. |
| 01:31.28 | Codayus | <shrug> That's the downside, yes. There's upsides as well. |
| 01:31.57 | GenNMX | I can usually use Efficient Heals without a problem, since most health fluctuation in a group with a good tank comes from crits or multiple crits. |
| 01:32.47 | GenNMX | That's why I also throw Rejuvination on the tank, in case they get hit too badly multiple times in a row. |
| 01:38.53 | Corrodias | iriel and legorol were discussing framexml before... which reminds me that i still don't know if you can modify a frame at runtime with a LUA script after 1.10, to remove layers and unregister it for events |
| 01:39.27 | AnduinLothar | you can unregister, and derefrence, but you cant actually remove frames or layers |
| 01:41.00 | Corrodias | which means that, if i want to be rid of the experience bar, which is a layer or frame inside the mainmenubar, i'd have to Hide() the whole mainmenubar and replace it with my own? |
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| 01:41.25 | Corrodias | at least you can unregister the mainmenubar for events so it doesn't take as much cpu time, if that's correct |
| 01:42.28 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 01:47.17 | Legorol | in the case of the exp bar, you are even more screwed.. |
| 01:47.29 | Legorol | the actual artwork for the mainmenubar is in one piece, glued together |
| 01:47.44 | Legorol | the XML object that is the exp bar is only the blue statusbar bit |
| 01:48.04 | Legorol | the "ticks" or "bubbles" or whatever you want to call them is one texture glued together with the rest of the main menu bar |
| 01:49.33 | Corrodias | i don't believe you are correct |
| 01:49.58 | Corrodias | i have a modified mainmenubar.xml right now that completely removes the experience bar, which i have replaced with Basic Experience Bar |
| 01:50.33 | Corrodias | the rest of the artwork is still intact, but if i move BEB out of the way, there's just a hole where the experience bar used to be |
| 01:53.43 | Legorol | ok, what i am trying to say is that the actual texture is in one piece |
| 01:54.06 | Legorol | you can get rid of just the bubbles of the exp bar by changing the TexCoords in mainmenubar.xml |
| 01:54.16 | Legorol | which is what i presume you've done, correct me if i'm wrong |
| 01:54.24 | Legorol | but this requires framexml editing |
| 01:54.29 | Legorol | i don't know of a way of doing this from Lua |
| 01:55.11 | Corrodias | right. you'd have to copy the xml to your addon's directory, make your own barless frame out of it, unregister the original bar for all events and Hide() it, and Show() your own bar in its place, i suppose |
| 01:55.36 | Maldivia | Legorol: Texture:SetTexCoord(...) ? |
| 01:55.44 | Legorol | Maldivia, that might be a solution |
| 01:55.47 | Corrodias | a bit more wasteful of resources than th.. |
| 01:56.01 | Legorol | i am not very familiar with textures, so didn't know about that method ;-) |
| 01:56.31 | Corrodias | i don't know exactly what the changes required are, because i didn't write the changes to the xml, i only copied them from another addon, so i don't know if that would help. it will be very nice if it does. |
| 01:58.10 | Legorol | from what I can see of UI-MainMenuBar-Dwarf.blp (which is what has the texture including exp bar) all you need is to change the texcoords |
| 01:58.19 | Legorol | so Maldivia's solution would probably work |
| 01:59.19 | Legorol | btw, it's interesting to note that it appears that Blizz was planning to have "themes" for the UI, one for each race |
| 01:59.28 | Legorol | the current UI is Dwarf "themed" |
| 01:59.41 | Legorol | there are remnants of Human, NightElf etc. themed interface textures in hte .mpq |
| 01:59.53 | Legorol | i wonder if they will ever finish it |
| 02:00.10 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 02:00.29 | Legorol | e.g. there is a UI-MainMenuBar-Human.blp and UI-MainMenuBar-NightElf.blp |
| 02:00.39 | Corrodias | well, now we know for sure who their favorites are |
| 02:00.39 | Legorol | not used by the current XML anywhere, afaik |
| 02:00.45 | Legorol | lol |
| 02:00.55 | Corrodias | my troll weeps |
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| 02:33.11 | AnduinLothar | my guess is they started making one for each race and gave in when one was finished |
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| 02:34.39 | Cairenn | hey Beladona! Happy Birthday! |
| 02:35.31 | Beladona | hehe |
| 02:35.48 | Beladona | thank you |
| 02:35.49 | AnduinLothar | poor couch |
| 02:37.30 | GenNMX | Grrr, [difficulty] still doesn't work with WD |
| 02:38.04 | AnduinLothar | why are the mods on http://www.wowinterface.com/list.php?skinnerid=18098&sb=date&so=desc&page=1 limited to 10 per page? |
| 02:38.48 | Cairenn | because that is what Dolby has it set at? I can ask him to change it |
| 02:39.14 | AnduinLothar | or make it changable. my prefrence would just be to see them all |
| 02:39.31 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 02:39.43 | AnduinLothar | don't spose it's a frequently complained about issue tho |
| 02:40.19 | Beladona | I imagine it cuts down on db queries |
| 02:40.39 | AnduinLothar | right, but i'm just gonna check page two... means more load ;) |
| 02:41.00 | Beladona | lol |
| 02:41.38 | Cairenn | someone say something, pretty please? |
| 02:41.45 | AnduinLothar | something? |
| 02:42.11 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 02:42.42 | Flisher_Coding | pretty please |
| 02:43.13 | Beladona | monkeys? |
| 02:43.47 | Cairenn | brb |
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| 02:44.27 | Beladona | the queue on draka is really peeving me off |
| 02:50.23 | Corrodias | draka. that's a good name. |
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| 02:50.28 | Corrodias | eldre'thalas is a crap name |
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| 02:51.32 | Beladona | wb Cair |
| 02:52.27 | Corrodias | yet ET is full again. i hadn't seen this since 1.9 came out. how sad. position 200 |
| 02:52.30 | futrtrubl | Happy B-day Beladona |
| 02:53.37 | Beladona | thanks |
| 02:58.04 | Corrodias | a monkey with a watch could estimate the queue time better than WoW can |
| 02:58.31 | Guillotine | haha |
| 02:58.42 | Corrodias | at 180, it estimated 5 minutes. at 100, it still estimates 5 minutes. |
| 02:58.58 | Guillotine | oh. you don't know the formula they use? |
| 02:59.06 | Corrodias | guess and check? |
| 02:59.06 | Guillotine | its a static text box. set to display 5 minutes |
| 02:59.13 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 02:59.44 | Guillotine | i was thinking of making a better que estimator for the BG ques |
| 02:59.49 | Guillotine | would work only on AB |
| 02:59.55 | Guillotine | b/c in AB you can estimate the time left |
| 03:00.09 | Corrodias | i could make a box that says "any minute now..." |
| 03:00.17 | Guillotine | so it would require some people in the game to be using it, but it would likely be accurate within 1 minute |
| 03:00.49 | Tain | At least your position in the queue isn't going up instead of down. |
| 03:00.56 | Corrodias | so far i've only played in WSG. AB is the really big one, with the tower capture points, isn't it? or is that AV? |
| 03:01.33 | Guillotine | thats AV |
| 03:01.38 | Guillotine | AB is the really fun one |
| 03:01.39 | Guillotine | with resources |
| 03:01.55 | Corrodias | i'll figure it out some day~ |
| 03:02.08 | Guillotine | question: is there any event called when you or your group kill a mob? |
| 03:02.21 | Corrodias | as i understand, 10-39 people play WSG, then they play something else until 60, at which point they largely switch to the third |
| 03:02.29 | Guillotine | I'm making an addon that will let you progress to level 70 (though stats will stay the same of course) |
| 03:02.29 | Corrodias | i don't know! |
| 03:02.55 | Guillotine | on our server, nobody does the third (AV). wait time is usually around 6 hours |
| 03:07.31 | Corrodias | and WoW crashes while i'm creating a new character. beautiful. |
| 03:07.38 | Corrodias | my fucking AGP aperture is fine. |
| 03:08.17 | Corrodias | cool, at least it doesn't make me wait through the queue again |
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| 03:10.25 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.34 | Guillotine | ROFL. MAJOR conflicting ads on WoWWiki. http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/448/conflictingads8ca.jpg |
| 03:10.55 | Guillotine | one for a keylogger, one for a keylogger killer |
| 03:11.11 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 03:11.39 | Guillotine | so... anyone know of any event called when you kill a creature? |
| 03:11.49 | Guillotine | I used to use xp gain, but it does't work now that I'm level 60... |
| 03:12.07 | Guillotine | and I was using CHAT_MSG_HOSTILE_DEATH, but it would also trigger when other people around me killed a mob |
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| 03:12.52 | Guillotine | nobody knows? |
| 03:13.01 | Guillotine | I've looked on WoWWiki, but can't find anything... |
| 03:13.02 | kremonte | Guillotine: there are no args for the player? |
| 03:13.38 | kremonte | does UNIT_HEALTH fire for 0%? that could be done for target, but wouldn't be accurate for multiple targest... |
| 03:14.11 | Beladona | yeah |
| 03:14.16 | Guillotine | right |
| 03:14.21 | Guillotine | happy birthday Bel :D |
| 03:14.25 | Beladona | I was thinking along the same lines actually |
| 03:14.27 | Corrodias | uh oh. LA's wardrobe icon ain't appearing. *screws around with layout-cache.txt* |
| 03:14.27 | kremonte | happy birthday bel =P |
| 03:14.34 | Beladona | thanks |
| 03:14.50 | AnduinLothar | i assume u mean Al's |
| 03:14.57 | Corrodias | yeah, that's the one >_> |
| 03:15.00 | Guillotine | lol |
| 03:15.02 | Corrodias | sorry, i'm so distracted |
| 03:15.11 | Guillotine | there HAS to be some event called... I just can't find it |
| 03:15.12 | AnduinLothar | do you have titan? |
| 03:15.17 | Corrodias | i do |
| 03:15.33 | Guillotine | can anyone think of an adon that might use it? |
| 03:15.40 | AnduinLothar | check the titanWardrobe options |
| 03:15.53 | Corrodias | i'll see what i can see |
| 03:16.22 | Guillotine | oh ya. lets check that Book of the Dead and see how it does it... |
| 03:16.24 | AnduinLothar | there's an option to hide the duttob enabled by default if you have titan |
| 03:16.53 | Corrodias | ..button, i take it. but thanks, now i have it. |
| 03:17.37 | Corrodias | i don't suppose it will use old outfits? |
| 03:17.41 | Cairenn | hahahhaaha |
| 03:17.42 | Cairenn | http://www.fontempire.com/cgi-bin/preview.pl/themes/devilmsf.zip |
| 03:18.43 | Beladona | Guill: there isn't a really easy way to only trigger when a mob dies you are interested in. You either get ALL deaths, even ones you don't care about, or you get only the one you have targetted |
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| 03:19.09 | kremonte_ | grrr |
| 03:19.30 | Beladona | CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_HOSTILE_DEATH works for anything within range, but as you know that includes anything someone else is killing |
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| 03:20.29 | kremonte | SOL when it comes to an untargeted death then, i suppose |
| 03:20.57 | Beladona | it makes sense though |
| 03:21.11 | Beladona | the client doesn't know which mobs you care about |
| 03:21.19 | kremonte_ | grrrr |
| 03:21.23 | kremonte_ | ghosts dont know how to leave |
| 03:21.25 | Beladona | with the exception of the one you targetted |
| 03:21.56 | Beladona | you ok kremonte? |
| 03:22.03 | kremonte | lol |
| 03:22.12 | kremonte | im using irc on my laptop |
| 03:22.16 | Beladona | I coulda just kicked your ghost ya know |
| 03:22.17 | kremonte | so i ghosted my nick on my desktop |
| 03:22.18 | Beladona | =P |
| 03:22.23 | kremonte | dude its 3ft away |
| 03:22.29 | kremonte | im not THAT lazy >< |
| 03:22.43 | Beladona | didn't know that till just now |
| 03:23.05 | kremonte | yea, my room is lie 15ftx15ft |
| 03:23.13 | kremonte | so my bed+desk are pretty cramped |
| 03:23.31 | Guillotine_ | Beladona: I just wish that the XP gained event worked when you were level 60 |
| 03:23.39 | Guillotine_ | then it was easy to do it |
| 03:23.53 | Guillotine | or does it? |
| 03:23.57 | Guillotine | I'm pretty sure it doesn't though |
| 03:24.18 | kremonte | welll |
| 03:24.21 | kremonte | nevermind |
| 03:24.22 | End | well, internally it still notices when you kill things that "give you exp" |
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| 03:24.38 | kremonte | yeah, level 48+ but |
| 03:24.52 | kremonte | you cant tell whgo killed it |
| 03:24.57 | End | hmm |
| 03:25.07 | Guillotine | thats ok |
| 03:25.09 | Guillotine | that will work |
| 03:25.15 | Guillotine | if it really does call it |
| 03:25.17 | kremonte | unless post-mortem, youcan see who has a mob tapped |
| 03:25.19 | Guillotine | I'll have to check |
| 03:25.31 | Guillotine | but you'd have to target them |
| 03:25.47 | kremonte | quiet! T_T |
| 03:26.49 | kremonte | hmm. what's a good way to sabotage my father's cigarettes so he stops smoking? |
| 03:26.57 | kremonte | he hasn't gotten a clue for 12 years >_< |
| 03:27.04 | End | start smoking them |
| 03:27.08 | End | oh |
| 03:27.10 | End | you mean good way |
| 03:27.11 | Guillotine | end: :/ |
| 03:27.17 | kremonte | hahahaha |
| 03:27.18 | kremonte | no |
| 03:27.31 | End | I thought you meant bad way or something |
| 03:27.33 | Guillotine | how about replacing the insides with dog doo? that can't taste too good... |
| 03:27.39 | kremonte | i have really adverse reactions to them |
| 03:27.53 | kremonte | i cough from cigarette smoke 40ft+ away |
| 03:28.03 | kremonte | Guillotine: i don't want to make him sick :( |
| 03:28.14 | Guillotine | kremonte: then boil it first. kill all the germs |
| 03:28.17 | kremonte | i was thinking maybe some really horrid mixture |
| 03:28.24 | kremonte | BOILING DOG DOO? |
| 03:28.26 | kremonte | dude |
| 03:28.27 | Guillotine | haha |
| 03:28.28 | kremonte | i just like |
| 03:28.28 | End | o_O |
| 03:28.30 | kremonte | threw up |
| 03:28.39 | kremonte | like |
| 03:28.40 | Guillotine | can you imagine what someone would think if they came in and saw you putting it into a pot? |
| 03:28.45 | End | haha |
| 03:29.31 | kremonte | orange juice + ? + potato buds (make it more solid) + nutrigrain bar (it looks flaky like cigarette tobacco |
| 03:29.33 | Guillotine | kremonte: why not just buy him a pack of those nicotine gums (the ones to help you stop smoking) |
| 03:29.46 | kremonte | Guillotine: i did, more than a dozen times, over the last 4 years |
| 03:29.57 | Guillotine | ahh |
| 03:30.08 | Guillotine | like I said, I'm sure dog doo tastes pretty horrid... |
| 03:30.10 | kremonte | he chews dentyne and says he's chewing that -.- |
| 03:30.15 | kremonte | again |
| 03:30.19 | kremonte | boiling dog shit? wtf? |
| 03:30.35 | End | Guillotine, seriously man, you have some issues |
| 03:30.58 | kremonte | here's my problem though |
| 03:30.59 | Guillotine | cat doo is probably pretty bad too if you don't want to use dog doo |
| 03:31.06 | End | haha |
| 03:31.19 | kremonte | how do i compress OJ+?+potato buds+nutrigrain bar |
| 03:31.34 | kremonte | ooh, for the ?, i'll use hot sauce |
| 03:31.41 | kremonte | that sounds notorious |
| 03:31.54 | kremonte | but then he'd probably vomit? and he'd get a new pack and smoke them |
| 03:32.00 | Guillotine | right |
| 03:32.05 | Guillotine | I don't think its going to stop him from smoking |
| 03:32.09 | kremonte | hm, writing all the horrid things 1st+2nd hand smoke can do |
| 03:32.12 | kremonte | in chalk or something |
| 03:32.14 | kremonte | on his wall? |
| 03:32.18 | zeeg | hrmm |
| 03:32.36 | Guillotine | tell him you have crohn's. I can't even go near second hand smoke or I have to go to the hospital :/ |
| 03:32.37 | kremonte | or on the floor, or on his car..but the car and floor are brand new, and he uses really nice paint |
| 03:32.43 | zeeg | Can anyone recommend a good firewire HDD enclosure? Basically I want it as a laptop accessory so I can stick one of my huge drives in it just for data storage |
| 03:32.48 | kremonte | i have crohn's |
| 03:32.50 | kremonte | hahahaha |
| 03:33.52 | kremonte | boo, the channel suddenly went silent |
| 03:34.21 | Guillotine | on the bad side, crohn's sucks. on the plus side, I never have to deal with peer pressure for smoking |
| 03:34.33 | kremonte | peer pressure my ass |
| 03:34.38 | kremonte | i almost had all my bones broken |
| 03:34.54 | kremonte | when some scum after classes handed me a cigarette |
| 03:35.11 | Guillotine | and you refused so he beat you up? |
| 03:35.17 | kremonte | no no |
| 03:35.22 | kremonte | i threw it into the mud (it had just rained) |
| 03:35.29 | kremonte | then i tossed it onto his face |
| 03:35.48 | kremonte | i can run like a hooker with heels though ;) |
| 03:35.51 | Guillotine | :/ |
| 03:36.02 | Guillotine | that wasn't too smart. why not just say no? |
| 03:36.12 | kremonte | coz i dont think he spoke english |
| 03:36.16 | Guillotine | lol |
| 03:36.27 | Guillotine | no is in spanish too |
| 03:36.34 | kremonte | he was one of those types where he thought he was cool because he wrote SLIPKNOTTTTT on his bookbag |
| 03:36.39 | kremonte | then huffed the whiteout ;) |
| 03:36.40 | Guillotine | lol |
| 03:37.18 | Corrodias | nothing wrong with getting a high. then he's nice and offers you a free cigarette and you have to be like that? |
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| 03:37.36 | kremonte | Corrodias: am i supposed to lol or be disgusted at you? |
| 03:37.41 | Guillotine | ok. CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_XP_GAIN does not fire on kills when you're level 60 |
| 03:37.47 | kremonte | Guillotine: darn |
| 03:37.52 | AnduinLothar | making a tauren druid... need a name |
| 03:38.00 | Guillotine | Beefsalot |
| 03:38.01 | Corrodias | either one works, but being an ass about free stuff doesn't help anybody |
| 03:38.01 | kremonte | AnduinLothar: Mooid |
| 03:38.08 | End | something with hoof, horn or moo in it |
| 03:38.18 | Guillotine | Bearburger |
| 03:38.19 | End | bonus points for all three |
| 03:38.22 | End | or beef |
| 03:38.25 | AnduinLothar | my skin and face and horns are all black |
| 03:38.33 | Guillotine | Blackburger |
| 03:38.35 | kremonte | Corrodias: being an ass about something tht is hazardous to not only themselves but to everyone around them is definitely warranted imho |
| 03:38.36 | End | lol |
| 03:38.40 | AnduinLothar | wonder if black hole is avail |
| 03:38.48 | kremonte | blackhole..haha |
| 03:38.57 | Corrodias | o.O |
| 03:39.04 | AnduinLothar | sweet, got it |
| 03:39.09 | kremonte | nice |
| 03:39.10 | Guillotine | iriel: I require your assistance. is there any event called when you kill a mob? |
| 03:39.13 | Corrodias | is this a male or female tauren? >_> |
| 03:39.27 | Guillotine | I've tried CHAT_MSG_HOSTILE_DEATH but it also fires when ppl around you kill something |
| 03:39.31 | Iriel | Guillotine : No, but I have a little document on it |
| 03:39.42 | Guillotine | oooo. that could be useful |
| 03:40.04 | Iriel | Guillotine : Download KillCounter from my site |
| 03:40.15 | Guillotine | you have a site? |
| 03:40.19 | Guillotine | :/ |
| 03:40.28 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/ |
| 03:40.28 | Guillotine | what is it? lol |
| 03:40.58 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:41.00 | Iriel | Within the KillCounter zip file is a notes.txt file |
| 03:41.35 | Iriel | I own iriel.org too, just haven't had the energy to do anything with it |
| 03:41.59 | End | all it says is iriel.org on it |
| 03:42.23 | Iriel | exactly 8-) |
| 03:42.40 | End | hey, I wasn't even expecting it to -point- anywhere |
| 03:42.50 | Iriel | Ah, I at least point them at a dead page |
| 03:42.51 | End | :P |
| 03:43.10 | Iriel | Means that when I do have the energy, I dont have to reconfigure apache |
| 03:43.22 | End | hehe |
| 03:44.44 | Guillotine | but Iriel, won't this not work if you are in a party (in UBRS for example) and you are not targetting the dieing enemy? |
| 03:45.06 | Iriel | Guillotine : It really depends, my general conclusion wa sthat there's no reliable way to catch all death types |
| 03:45.17 | Iriel | You run the risk of over or undercounting, no matter what you do. |
| 03:45.37 | Iriel | I wish there was a "You would have gotten XP for this death if the creature wasn't grey to you" event |
| 03:45.50 | Guillotine | we have to ask slouken for that |
| 03:45.55 | Guillotine | its seriuosly needed |
| 03:46.06 | Iriel | I think it's been asked before, but I could try asking again 8-) |
| 03:46.19 | Guillotine | I'm going to ask right now on the ui & macros board :) |
| 03:46.39 | kremonte | you know what's also needed, as with group members a precise map loc of your pet |
| 03:46.43 | kremonte | i mean cmon |
| 03:47.03 | kremonte | if they aren't going to fix pet speed while mounted + in combat at least let me make something to warn me!>< |
| 03:47.13 | Iriel | The only reason we get precise locations of ourselves is the world map |
| 03:47.42 | Iriel | Even then it's not in a useful unit, any to-yards conversion is calibrated by users |
| 03:47.53 | kremonte | yap. but why not pets? |
| 03:48.06 | Iriel | Pets aren't shown on the world map. |
| 03:48.14 | kremonte | thats my point >< why not? |
| 03:48.22 | kremonte | not like they are hostile |
| 03:48.31 | Iriel | Presumably because they can't get THAT far away from you |
| 03:48.37 | Iriel | so they didn't think it necessary |
| 03:48.58 | kremonte | yar, tired of having to dismount, cast for 6+sec and use a shard coz i couldnt tell where my pet was =/ |
| 03:49.18 | Iriel | Your pet must have some issues (maybe it's a lock thing) |
| 03:49.50 | Iriel | Guillotine : Have you asked yet? I want to chime in on your thread |
| 03:50.01 | Guillotine | I'm writing it up right now |
| 03:50.06 | Guillotine | I'll post link here when I'm done |
| 03:50.11 | Corrodias | hunter pets ARE shown on the map. warlock pets aren't, you say? |
| 03:50.26 | Iriel | No |
| 03:50.27 | kremonte | nope |
| 03:50.28 | End | not minimap, main map |
| 03:50.33 | kremonte | oh, ya |
| 03:50.35 | Iriel | I'm just saying I've never had THAT much difficulty finding my pet |
| 03:50.41 | End | and by that I mean |
| 03:50.47 | End | they -are- shown on minimap |
| 03:50.47 | Corrodias | oh, main map? well, they are dismissed if they get beyond the minimap's range anyway, so... |
| 03:50.54 | Corrodias | i don't know about warlock pets though |
| 03:50.56 | kremonte | Corrodias: exactly |
| 03:51.00 | End | but the issue is they aren't shown on main |
| 03:51.11 | End | so you can't get coords |
| 03:51.15 | kremonte | for hunters its an instant blow of a whistle, i have to waste a shard and cast for 6-8 secs >.> |
| 03:51.16 | Corrodias | oooh. |
| 03:51.26 | End | hmm |
| 03:51.27 | kremonte | so since my pets slow down when mounted+in combat, it becomes a real issue |
| 03:51.30 | Corrodias | did i hear that shards don't stack? |
| 03:51.34 | kremonte | they sure don't |
| 03:51.37 | Legorol | I have just finished debugging an interesting tooltip behaviour change for the Auctioneer guys |
| 03:51.41 | Corrodias | wtf are they thinking? |
| 03:51.47 | Legorol | it potentially has an implication for anyone who operates with tooltips |
| 03:51.57 | kremonte | Legorol: ? |
| 03:51.59 | Corrodias | that you can't move the default item tooltip any more? |
| 03:52.03 | End | maybe they should refund the shard if you lose a pet in the same ways hunter pets don't lose happiness |
| 03:52.16 | Legorol | The usual way to set up a tooltip is to do: |
| 03:52.21 | Legorol | tooltip:SetOwner(blah blah) |
| 03:52.26 | Legorol | tooltip:SetXXX(blah) |
| 03:52.32 | Legorol | and potentially anchor it |
| 03:52.34 | Corrodias | SetPosition |
| 03:52.43 | Corrodias | no, SetPoint |
| 03:52.55 | Legorol | The SetXXX is e.g. SetBagItem or SetInventoryItem or anything |
| 03:53.02 | Legorol | Ok, the important change is this: |
| 03:53.04 | Guillotine | Link to request for new event: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=296842 |
| 03:53.06 | Corrodias | ah, okay, guess that's not the only way then :o |
| 03:53.07 | kremonte | End: still a good deal of mana + long cast. being caught by surprise while mounted is non-issue for most any class, but if you're in travel-mode and (like myself) quite often lose track of whether or not your pet has disappeared, it can be the deciding factor between whether or not you get crushed in said pvp encounter |
| 03:53.13 | Guillotine | ^^ everyone plz support it :D |
| 03:53.20 | kremonte | Guillotine: will do |
| 03:53.29 | Legorol | If you have an ANCHOR_XXX string specified in the SetOwner call, which isn't ANCHOR_NONE, |
| 03:53.30 | End | kremonte: that's true.... |
| 03:53.31 | Guillotine | and offer suggestions |
| 03:53.33 | Legorol | then the tooltip remembers that anchor |
| 03:53.46 | End | kremonte: I don't play a warlock, so I can only theorize on the sticking points |
| 03:53.47 | Corrodias | "remembers"? |
| 03:53.57 | End | and I know shard usage is one of the problems |
| 03:53.58 | Legorol | on any subsequent tooltip:Show, tooltip:SetXXX or tooltip:AppendText calls it will reanchor the tooltip according to that anchor |
| 03:54.08 | kremonte | End: warlock is the second least played class endgame from my experiences =( |
| 03:54.10 | Legorol | so if you have changed the anchoring with SetPoint calls, those SetPoint calls will become invalidated |
| 03:54.13 | Legorol | Example: |
| 03:54.23 | Corrodias | can you use a new setowner call to change it to ANCHOR_NONE? |
| 03:54.35 | Corrodias | good job figuring out the cause of the problem, by the way |
| 03:54.45 | Corrodias | or the next cause up the cause-effect chain, anyway |
| 03:55.04 | Legorol | GameTooltip:SetOwner(ContainerFrame1, "ANCHOR_LEFT") |
| 03:55.04 | Legorol | GameTooltip:ClearAllPoints() |
| 03:55.04 | Legorol | GameTooltip:SetPoint("TOP", UIParent) |
| 03:55.04 | Legorol | GameTooltip:Show() |
| 03:55.14 | Legorol | this piece of code, you would expect the tooltip to end up at the top |
| 03:55.17 | Corrodias | i believe my realm just disconnected me |
| 03:55.21 | Legorol | but it ends up left of Container 1 |
| 03:55.31 | Corrodias | and the authentication server is also incommunicado |
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| 03:55.42 | Legorol | Iriel, this is particularly for you, if you could add something to this effect to the 1.9 changes post that'd be great |
| 03:56.11 | Corrodias | we knew there was a problem with using SetPoint but we weren't sure exactly what it was |
| 03:56.30 | Legorol | One line summary: tooltip:SetXXX, tooltip:Show, tooltip:AppendText etc. calls revert the anchors to that specified in hte last SetOwner call, overriding any SetPoint calls you did |
| 03:56.35 | Corrodias | is there a way to get around it? can you SetOwner(something, "ANCHOR_NONE"); again before moving it and make it work? |
| 03:56.47 | Legorol | if you use ANCHOR_NONE, this is not an issue |
| 03:56.58 | Corrodias | but what if it already has used an anchor? |
| 03:57.01 | Legorol | it's only an issue if you use any other ANCHOR_XXX in SetOwner |
| 03:57.24 | Legorol | there is no easy way around this issue |
| 03:58.22 | Legorol | you need to be able to call SetOwner with ANCHOR_NONE, then fill in the tooltip's content, then move it with SetPoints |
| 03:58.33 | Flisher_Coding | Anyone got a trick to know spell texture that aren't your spell besside asking a friend to debug is spellbook? |
| 03:58.36 | Legorol | you can't just simply call SetOwner to change the "remembered" anchor |
| 03:58.43 | Legorol | calling SetOwner wipes the tooltip |
| 03:58.46 | Corrodias | i believe you have answered my question, now |
| 03:59.18 | Corrodias | so for EnhTooltip, you might have to locate and hook the function that creates the original tooltip and make it not execute the SetOwner line with the anchor point? |
| 03:59.29 | Legorol | The best you can do is to make sure you do any SetPoint calls after you finished with any tooltip:SetXXX or tooltip:Show calls |
| 03:59.51 | Legorol | that's the approach the auctioneer team took, and i told them not to |
| 03:59.58 | Legorol | instead i told them to do SetPoints as the last step |
| 04:00.12 | Corrodias | i'm not aware that works |
| 04:00.24 | Legorol | it does work |
| 04:00.32 | Legorol | you set everything up except anchoring |
| 04:00.42 | Legorol | then you do tooltip:ClearAllPoints(); tooltip:SetPoint(blah blah); |
| 04:00.42 | Corrodias | it is already anchored! |
| 04:01.05 | Legorol | if you do this last, it does override the anchoring specified in SetOwner |
| 04:01.25 | Legorol | all i am saying is that if you follow this with a tooltip:Show(), you revert it back to the anchoring specified in SetOwner |
| 04:01.38 | Legorol | this last bit is what changed in 1.9 |
| 04:01.44 | Corrodias | hmm. okay. lets see if i can reorder the code in Tooltip.lua to make it do that... |
| 04:01.46 | Legorol | tooltip:Show() didn't used to revert the anchoring |
| 04:01.52 | Legorol | Corrodias, i already did that |
| 04:01.59 | Legorol | just commited it to the auctioneer svn |
| 04:02.14 | Corrodias | well, that's cool, where do i get that? |
| 04:02.28 | Corrodias | i don't know what an svn is. maybe i'd already know if i knew that >_> |
| 04:02.57 | Iriel | svn = Subversion - a revision control system |
| 04:03.04 | End | svn is neat-o |
| 04:03.12 | Corrodias | (having a hell of a time logging back in to my realm) |
| 04:03.42 | Tain | A one eyed, one legged, hook-handed pirate walks into a bar. The bartended asks how he lost his leg. The pirate replies that a shark bit it off. The bartender asks the same of his hand, to which the pirate replies that he lost it in an epic swordfight. |
| 04:03.42 | Tain | Finally the bartender asks how he lost his eye, and the pirate says that a seagull shat in it. The bartended seems confused and asks how seagull shit could take out an eye. The pirate says, "It was my first day with the hook." |
| 04:04.03 | Corrodias | cute |
| 04:04.38 | Corrodias | they still pack these in .zip files? heh |
| 04:06.04 | Legorol | Corrodias, http://www.auctioneeraddon.com/trac/browser/trunk/enhtooltip/ |
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| 04:08.58 | Corrodias | thanks a bunch, by the way |
| 04:09.04 | Corrodias | i wish they wouldn't call it "unstable" >_> |
| 04:09.38 | End | what would you like them call it? not quite stable? |
| 04:09.43 | End | er, like them to |
| 04:10.27 | Corrodias | "not proven to be stable" maybe |
| 04:10.27 | Iriel | "WereNotSureIfThisIsStableYet" |
| 04:10.39 | Corrodias | "could be bunk" |
| 04:10.51 | Iriel | Any queues on Draka this evening? |
| 04:10.53 | Legorol | "our first stab in the dark at getting this thing working" |
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| 04:11.34 | Legorol | Iriel, if you scroll up, you can read my comments on a stealth-change to tooltips that has already messed up auctioneer mods a bit, and can affect others too |
| 04:12.11 | Tain | There was 300 or so queue about an hour ago on Draka, Iriel. |
| 04:12.15 | End | it affected mine slightly |
| 04:12.42 | End | I was just doing :SetOwner(myframe), and suddenly it wasn't going in the right corner |
| 04:12.53 | End | fortunately my fix was simple |
| 04:13.00 | End | just give it "ANCHOR_NONE" |
| 04:13.11 | Iriel | Is this the anchor change stuff lego? |
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| 04:13.47 | Depherios | brb mystery lag, restarting |
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| 04:14.05 | Corrodias | yes |
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| 04:14.56 | kremonte | grr news channels make me sad |
| 04:15.04 | Corrodias | paging AnduinLothar if that sort of thing works! |
| 04:15.08 | kremonte | "Will blogs be the key to catching criminals in the future?" |
| 04:15.12 | Beladona | Iriel, I had a queue on draka (sorry just saw your question) but hopefully it has lessened |
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| 04:17.05 | Iriel | Even Silver Had has queues, I suspect every realm is that way |
| 04:17.24 | kremonte | jeez, at 11pm on a sunday night? |
| 04:17.26 | Legorol | Iriel, yes the anchor change stuff |
| 04:17.35 | kremonte | WoW is a sick, sick addiction! D: |
| 04:17.43 | Iriel | Legorol : It wasn't ENTIRELY stealthy, there were some API changes around anchors. |
| 04:17.50 | Legorol | oh? |
| 04:17.52 | Iriel | Legorol : Well, one I can think of 8-) |
| 04:18.05 | Legorol | what kind of changes? |
| 04:18.09 | Iriel | anchorType = GameTooltip:GetAnchorType() - Returns the current anchoring type. |
| 04:18.20 | Legorol | ohh |
| 04:19.13 | Legorol | well, it could be related |
| 04:19.22 | Legorol | doesn't help solve the issue though |
| 04:19.29 | Legorol | maybe it's actually an unintended bug? |
| 04:19.36 | Legorol | should ask slouken, mayheps |
| 04:19.40 | Iriel | Or it's an intended feature |
| 04:19.49 | Legorol | btw, can anyone explain to me the usefullness of EquipCursorItem? |
| 04:19.56 | Depherios | yeah |
| 04:20.00 | Iriel | Maybe you're not supposed to be able to re-anchor tooltips that dont have ANCHOR_NONE |
| 04:20.03 | Legorol | how is it different from PickupInvItem or AutoEquipCursorItem? |
| 04:20.19 | Depherios | you can use pickupinvitem then use equipcurosoritem......... |
| 04:20.22 | Iriel | Is't that the one that equips to a specific slot? |
| 04:20.56 | Iriel | Hm, no, that doesn't appear to be it 8-) |
| 04:22.44 | Legorol | yes EquipCursorItem equips to a specific inv slot |
| 04:22.50 | Legorol | but that can also be done with PickupInvItem |
| 04:23.16 | Legorol | i guess EquipCursorItem is callable even if there is nothing on the cursor, |
| 04:23.27 | Corrodias | this wardrobe doesn't show the icon until loaded in titan. :( |
| 04:23.27 | Legorol | but with PickupInvItem you risk picking something up if there is nothing on the cursor |
| 04:24.03 | Legorol | Iriel, you may be right about the intended use of tooltip anchors |
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| 04:24.14 | Legorol | one of the last changes they did to UI code on test was to go from |
| 04:24.18 | Legorol | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.20 | Legorol | to |
| 04:24.24 | Legorol | ShoppingTooltip1:SetOwner(GameTooltip, "ANCHOR_NONE"); |
| 04:24.41 | Legorol | since they are anchoring ST1 manually |
| 04:26.36 | Iriel | I know slouken cleaned up a bunch of the anchoring code |
| 04:26.40 | Tain | Is GetAnchorType() only on tooltips or is that something that was added to frames in general? |
| 04:26.48 | Iriel | so I'm guessing his cleanup made anchoring suddenly start working right |
| 04:26.50 | Iriel | Just tooltips |
| 04:26.53 | Tain | DAmn. |
| 04:26.57 | Iriel | Though slouken hinted at a more generic one in 1.10 |
| 04:27.21 | Tain | That would really be nice, I was trying to find a way to determine where a frame's current anchor point was. |
| 04:28.00 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 04:31.02 | Legorol | i'm not sure you'd call this as "working right" |
| 04:31.22 | Legorol | if i do ClearAllPoints and SetPoint, i expect that tooltip to behave according to this new anchor |
| 04:31.36 | Legorol | calling tooltip:Show() should have absolutely no effect on the layout of the tooltip if it's already visible |
| 04:31.37 | Iriel | But you're assuming that SetAnchor is removed by ClearAllPoints |
| 04:31.47 | Iriel | What if the tooltip anchor is a different kind of constraint altogether |
| 04:31.59 | Iriel | and the reason wierd things happen is that the set point introduces a constraint conflict |
| 04:32.12 | Legorol | the tooltip anchor is a different one |
| 04:32.18 | Iriel | (I'm not claiming any kind of deep internal understanding of this stuff tho) |
| 04:32.24 | Legorol | the set of ANCHOR_XXX strings are totally different constraints than the usual anchors |
| 04:32.33 | Iriel | (Just hypotheticals which explain why you can't mix and match) |
| 04:32.41 | Legorol | i agree with that logic |
| 04:33.30 | Legorol | to be honest, i never liked tooltip anchors |
| 04:33.43 | Legorol | it seems very hackish in the sense that they just wanted a quick and dirty method to anchor tooltips, |
| 04:33.58 | Legorol | without having to go via the usual anchoring methods used for any other object |
| 04:35.02 | Legorol | well, g'night |
| 04:36.51 | Legorol | btw, has slouken commented before on whether they are willing to give us API methods so we don't have to scan tooltips? |
| 04:36.58 | Iriel | he's said 'no' |
| 04:37.02 | Legorol | even something as simple as GameTooltip:GetItemLink() would be enough |
| 04:37.02 | Iriel | Several times |
| 04:37.05 | Legorol | hmm |
| 04:37.07 | Legorol | any idea why? |
| 04:37.30 | Legorol | because there is nothing you can't do at the moment, it's just hellishly complciated |
| 04:37.35 | Iriel | Along the lines of "you CAN do it now with a tooltip scan, and we'd rather focus our development efforts on things you can't do" |
| 04:38.03 | End | that's understandable I guess :-/ |
| 04:38.24 | Legorol | heck, i think i will make a GameTooltip:GetItemLink() |
| 04:38.38 | Legorol | all i need to do is hook any GameTooltip method that sets content, |
| 04:38.51 | Legorol | and record the link of the item being fed into the tooltip |
| 04:39.00 | Legorol | then people can use the link with GetItemInfo |
| 04:39.04 | Legorol | no more need for scanning |
| 04:39.21 | Legorol | does that sound like a useful library function? |
| 04:40.40 | Iriel | I know some folks want it |
| 04:42.09 | Corrodias | Archaeologist requires "MCom", eh... okay... |
| 04:55.53 | Corrodias | wow. it's a lot more annoying than i expected. |
| 04:58.30 | Gryphen | ? |
| 04:59.10 | Corrodias | all the configuration is done through slash commands, the help list of slash commands appears to truncate at the max text length, and it uses the big annoying text on your bars instead of the little good text |
| 05:02.40 | Legorol | GUI configuration of Archaeologist is done via Khaos |
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| 05:03.41 | Guillotine | great... looks like this dl is stuck at 98% :/ |
| 05:04.40 | Guillotine | yay! its not stuck! just going at .2kb/sec... |
| 05:05.33 | Depherios | better than stopped ^_^ |
| 05:06.45 | Guillotine | somebody triple posted on the UI&Macros forum for a macro that would dispel ghostwolf then mount them... |
| 05:07.00 | Guillotine | anyone mind If i tell him the macro is "while 1 do end"? |
| 05:07.06 | Depherios | lol |
| 05:08.22 | Guillotine | theres no way to hook a console command, is there? |
| 05:08.39 | End | just replace the function in table |
| 05:08.45 | AnduinLothar | not unless you use SKy to hook the slahs command /console |
| 05:09.15 | AnduinLothar | well, you can do it manually too if you hook incomming text parsing |
| 05:09.32 | End | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.35 | End | er |
| 05:09.38 | End | wrong thing |
| 05:09.54 | End | SlashCmdList |
| 05:10.04 | End | oh |
| 05:10.07 | Guillotine | but what if the console command is not being called through chat? |
| 05:10.08 | End | wait, -console- command? |
| 05:10.14 | End | nvm |
| 05:10.21 | End | that's kinda hard to do |
| 05:10.32 | End | well |
| 05:10.59 | Iriel | Not really |
| 05:11.02 | Iriel | just hook ConsoleExec |
| 05:11.07 | End | you can hook it in chat, yes, but hooking SlashCmdList.CONSOLE, but I can't think of any way outside of chat |
| 05:11.30 | Iriel | That wont work if people have enabled the console key tho |
| 05:11.33 | End | I'm making a big assumption on what the entry is called in SlashCmdList btw |
| 05:11.34 | End | yeah |
| 05:11.44 | End | that's the problem I didn't realize |
| 05:11.51 | Iriel | But why would you even want it |
| 05:12.21 | Corrodias | interesting, trackertoggle's menu shows up on the right side of the cursor, and so goes off the screen :o |
| 05:12.46 | AnduinLothar | that's titan's fault |
| 05:13.14 | AnduinLothar | it overridded the menu function, disabling my hook to keep it on screen |
| 05:13.15 | Guillotine | Iriel: I don't really want it. I was just wondering |
| 05:13.31 | Corrodias | *eyebrow* they really shouldn't go breaking functions. that's not clean code. |
| 05:13.55 | AnduinLothar | you can probably add Titan as an optionalDep in the TT toc and bypass the problem |
| 05:14.13 | AnduinLothar | but no guerentees |
| 05:14.18 | Corrodias | ought to. thanks |
| 05:14.28 | AnduinLothar | I know MenuOnScreen fixes it the hard way |
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| 05:21.22 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:21.29 | End | need some duct tape? |
| 05:21.35 | End | :P |
| 05:21.47 | End | apparently, duct tape didn't help |
| 05:22.05 | AnduinLothar | http://www.humorass.com/pictures/view/26-dont-worry-man |
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| 05:29.54 | Cairenn | *sigh* again again |
| 05:30.15 | Flisher_Coding | Anyone got a pal level 34? |
| 05:30.25 | AnduinLothar | 60.. |
| 05:30.43 | Flisher_Coding | You can find the texture path of Divine Shield? |
| 05:31.05 | Flisher_Coding | My addons could easily get it, but I don't have a level 34 pal :-P |
| 05:31.30 | Guillotine | I think he meant 34+ |
| 05:31.34 | Flisher_Coding | yeah |
| 05:32.29 | AnduinLothar | gimme a macro to print it from my actionbar |
| 05:35.51 | Flisher_Coding | Hum, wait a few sec |
| 05:36.44 | Ktron | futrtrubl, you up? |
| 05:39.22 | Corrodias | hmm. that's strange. whoever said before that the default experience bar's overlay thing is still there was right |
| 05:39.31 | Corrodias | but i don't remember it being there before |
| 05:39.57 | kremonte | grr what's that word, a shift in the general way of thinking |
| 05:40.04 | kremonte | i'm a bad writer :( |
| 05:40.04 | Corrodias | paradigm |
| 05:40.07 | kremonte | yay! |
| 05:40.08 | kremonte | thanks |
| 05:40.43 | Flisher_Coding | AnduinLothar: you use an ingame debuging tool like phoenix devpad allowing you to pase some code / run it? |
| 05:40.51 | AnduinLothar | ya |
| 05:46.09 | Flisher_Coding | Anyone got an easy way to convert second to mm:ss |
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| 06:03.08 | End | qwxyr: sorta. you can't do all those steps at once though. |
| 06:03.21 | End | the thing is, you only get to dump to a saved variables file |
| 06:03.59 | Flisher_Coding | End: I know, but I don't master format() |
| 06:04.01 | qwxyr | but I'd get a actual text representation of what is says in a file on my HD? The parsing I can do with some other language afterwards |
| 06:04.08 | futrtrubl | string.format |
| 06:04.32 | AnduinLothar | format is the global shortcut in wow |
| 06:04.52 | qwxyr | is this info for me? |
| 06:05.29 | End | no |
| 06:05.40 | End | it's in response to Flisher_Coding's question |
| 06:05.50 | qwxyr | ah ok :-) I'll wait in queue |
| 06:07.24 | End | qwxyr: Basically, you have to figure out how to get what they are saying, stick that into a variable you have flagged as saved (in the toc file probably), and then read the blah.lua file that gets saved when you exit the game or reload ui |
| 06:07.27 | Flisher_Coding | anyone got a clue or doc on format? cause official lua doc say: The options c, d, E, e, f, g, G, i, o, u, X, and x all expect a number as argument, whereas q and s expect a string. The * modifier can be simulated by building the appropriate format string. For example, "%*g" can be simulated with "%"..width.."g". |
| 06:07.31 | Flisher_Coding | but don't describe them |
| 06:07.46 | End | qwxyr: you are going to have to do write an addon to do it |
| 06:08.10 | End | Flisher_Coding: hold on a sec |
| 06:08.11 | qwxyr | yeah, I figured, but the hard part, I guess, is actually figuring out how to get what they are saying? |
| 06:09.37 | qwxyr | I'm helping updating one of the AQ status pages, and now we have to write all the status they're saying by hand.. I thought I'd help out by providing some way of automation to it |
| 06:09.44 | End | Flisher_Coding: you'll want something like format("%.2d:%.2d:%.2d",h,m,s) to do 02:04:22 |
| 06:11.10 | Flisher_Coding | Great!! Thank alot |
| 06:11.11 | End | qwxyr: you'll probably want to watch for the gossip event or whatever and save any relevant output. it'll..probably take you a while to figure all the details out. I suggest wowwiki.com |
| 06:11.15 | End | np |
| 06:11.25 | qwxyr | :-) |
| 06:11.35 | qwxyr | Yeah, it will. And at this hour, it's not going to happen. |
| 06:11.40 | qwxyr | But tomorrow, I'm all over it |
| 06:11.49 | AnduinLothar | isn't there a blizz page that tracks all that? |
| 06:11.59 | qwxyr | just the US |
| 06:12.02 | AnduinLothar | ah |
| 06:12.03 | End | format() is almost identical to the behavior of sprintf() :) |
| 06:12.10 | End | sprintf() in C I mean |
| 06:12.15 | qwxyr | we euro cowboys are not important enough |
| 06:12.49 | qwxyr | so we have to do it manually |
| 06:13.16 | qwxyr | I'll pick your brains tomorrow End :-) Time to sleep |
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| 06:14.48 | Iriel | What's this then? http://www.m3arts.com/aqdata/index.php |
| 06:14.57 | Iriel | It's linked from the wow-europe homepage |
| 06:16.02 | AnduinLothar | any good way to tell if ur incapacitated or silenced easily? |
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| 06:16.36 | futrtrubl | nope |
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| 06:17.12 | Iriel | Sleep time. |
| 06:17.14 | Iriel | Bye all |
| 06:17.23 | futrtrubl | people using discord have been looking into that for a while, best bet is to scan buff descriptions for "stun" "silenced" etc |
| 06:20.15 | Corrodias | does the bliz default UI load before any addons? |
| 06:20.32 | AnduinLothar | all but the blizz addons |
| 06:21.02 | Corrodias | the MainMenuBar will exist by the time addons get going, then |
| 06:21.24 | futrtrubl | yup |
| 06:22.56 | Flisher_Coding | Note that some blizz addons doesn't load on startup, like raid/auction |
| 06:23.01 | Flisher_Coding | talent maybe too |
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| 06:23.16 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 06:23.23 | End | rwar |
| 06:23.27 | futrtrubl | hiss |
| 06:23.29 | End | moo |
| 06:23.47 | Shouryuu | *purrrrr* |
| 06:23.48 | futrtrubl | kakaaw |
| 06:23.54 | Shouryuu | ribit |
| 06:24.00 | End | ROFFLE MY WAFFLE? |
| 06:24.04 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 06:24.20 | Tain | I like waffles. |
| 06:24.30 | futrtrubl | _murloc noise_ |
| 06:24.47 | End | noooo, not the murloc noise! |
| 06:24.50 | Shouryuu | awww man I need 400b till my dl finishes but the seeder didn't connect AT all for the night |
| 06:25.07 | Tain | Can't you just guess at what the last 400b are? |
| 06:25.11 | Tain | I mean that's not a LOT of data.. |
| 06:25.20 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 06:25.30 | Shouryuu | I want to truncate that file |
| 06:25.35 | Shouryuu | but dunno how 0_o |
| 06:25.58 | futrtrubl | what type o' file is it? |
| 06:26.29 | Shouryuu | it's a .zip |
| 06:27.11 | futrtrubl | pity, I would suggest holding out for the end then |
| 06:27.22 | Shouryuu | dang |
| 06:27.28 | Shouryuu | uncool |
| 06:27.32 | Tain | Yeah, zips are a pain in the ass to try to "fix" with anything missing. |
| 06:28.09 | Shouryuu | that really sucks |
| 06:28.39 | Shouryuu | great I'm late again |
| 06:28.54 | Shouryuu|School | laters |
| 06:29.02 | Flisher_Coding | and the first 5 minutes of your porno film won't be interesting |
| 06:29.10 | Corrodias | let's see if my NoXPBar works |
| 06:29.10 | Shouryuu|School | they never are |
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| 06:36.29 | GenNMX | I feel stupid...how do you check if the player is currently casting a spell? |
| 06:37.43 | futrtrubl | set a var when he starts and clear when he fails, quits or succeeds |
| 06:37.57 | GenNMX | Wait, so there's no function to check? |
| 06:38.03 | GenNMX | Not even channeling? |
| 06:38.07 | futrtrubl | don't think so |
| 06:39.39 | Guillotine | you can check if the casting frame is showing... |
| 06:39.45 | Guillotine | but that can be messed up by addons that replace it |
| 06:39.53 | futrtrubl | not for other chars |
| 06:39.57 | GenNMX | Yeah that's all I can think of... |
| 06:40.06 | futrtrubl | oh wait, for the playr, yeah |
| 06:40.09 | GenNMX | Wait, why does the CastingBarFrame appear in the first place? |
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| 06:41.59 | futrtrubl | wb Cairenn |
| 06:42.01 | Cairenn | hi, again again again again again a.... |
| 06:42.16 | Cairenn | thank *god* for restore points |
| 06:42.29 | futrtrubl | I'll get my "bye" in now before you dissapear again |
| 06:42.49 | Cairenn | no more disappearing, restored my computer to a previous save and fixed the problem |
| 06:43.13 | futrtrubl | I've put up the avatars you sent me |
| 06:43.23 | futrtrubl | and thank you again |
| 06:43.34 | Guillotine | haha. latency just went up to 10s |
| 06:43.34 | Cairenn | you're quite welcome :) |
| 06:43.43 | Guillotine | yes, thats right, 10 seconds |
| 06:43.55 | End | I've had 24 seconds |
| 06:43.57 | futrtrubl | not too bad Guillotine |
| 06:44.05 | End | I counted, and it really was 24 seconds |
| 06:46.51 | GenNMX | OK, checking for CastingBarFrame.casting or CastingBarFrame.channeling seems like a good idea, unless a mod actually hooks the CastingBarFrame and unregisters its events or something. |
| 06:49.00 | Guillotine | you can tell you're a geek when you actually draw an area on a piece of graph paper and calculate the fastest farming run pattern |
| 06:49.12 | Guillotine | of course, b/c I'm following this same pattern, I've been reported twice for botting |
| 06:49.20 | Guillotine | I've been farming oozes in felwood 10 hours today, 8 yesterday |
| 06:49.57 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 06:53.11 | Corrodias | futrtrubl: messages |
| 06:53.45 | Guillotine | not that I condone it at all, but I'm beginning to see why people use bots |
| 06:53.52 | Guillotine | farming can become tedious |
| 06:54.00 | Corrodias | damn straight |
| 07:00.20 | Cairenn | okay, I lied, gonna poof and reconnect again :p |
| 07:05.50 | pagefault | you guys know of an addon that blocks you from breaking a sheep/shackle/etc? |
| 07:05.57 | AnduinLothar | defend urself |
| 07:07.03 | GenNMX | pagefault: SheepDefender, by the maker of DefendYourself |
| 07:07.33 | pagefault | thanks |
| 07:10.28 | Corrodias | damn thing |
| 07:10.33 | Corrodias | set the texture, don't make it all green! |
| 07:11.41 | End | is your texture in the write place? |
| 07:11.43 | End | did you restart? |
| 07:12.32 | Corrodias | triple-checking |
| 07:12.52 | Corrodias | MainMenuBarTexture0:SetTexture("Interface\AddOns\UI-NoXPBar.tga"); |
| 07:13.09 | Corrodias | silly me, forgot part of the path. can it load a tga? |
| 07:14.37 | Guillotine | yes, but you don't put the extension |
| 07:14.51 | Guillotine | g2g guys |
| 07:15.12 | Corrodias | still green.. no extention? okay |
| 07:15.13 | Corrodias | bye |
| 07:15.30 | Guillotine | ill stay until you tell me its working ;) |
| 07:15.35 | Tain | You need double \\ |
| 07:15.37 | GenNMX | Corrodias: Double-escape the path. Interface\\Addons\\UI-NoXPBar.tga |
| 07:16.03 | Corrodias | ah |
| 07:17.00 | Corrodias | ah, it worked! |
| 07:17.59 | Guillotine | yay :D |
| 07:18.27 | Corrodias | i seem to have made it upside down or something, but i can fix that |
| 07:20.45 | Tain | If you extracted it from a blp some of the extracters do grab it upside down. You can just flip it and it'll work fine. |
| 07:21.05 | Corrodias | rotate 180 or actually flip? |
| 07:21.18 | Tain | rotate 180 works fine |
| 07:26.14 | Corrodias | is there a way to hide a particular layer of a frame? |
| 07:26.24 | Corrodias | MainMenuExpBar has a layer "BACKGROUND" that's just a color |
| 07:26.35 | Corrodias | er, no |
| 07:26.37 | Corrodias | BACKGROUND is the level |
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| 07:27.36 | Corrodias | it's a StatusBar that contains two layers and all the rest of the frames of the thing. i can't hide it or it all disappears. |
| 07:28.52 | GenNMX | Corrodias: A very cheap method is to just move it off screen. |
| 07:29.09 | GenNMX | Thankfully that doesn't make WoW crash anymore. Heh. |
| 07:29.43 | Corrodias | move the layer? |
| 07:30.03 | Corrodias | ah, i've got it |
| 07:30.08 | GenNMX | Move the entire exp bar frame. The layer is a part of this frame, so it'll come with it. |
| 07:30.10 | Corrodias | Frame:DisableDrawLayer |
| 07:30.20 | Corrodias | yeah, but so is the rest of the menu bar, including all the art :/ |
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| 07:31.20 | GenNMX | Corrodias: Nothing is relative to MainMenuExpBar |
| 07:31.48 | GenNMX | I've successfully set its points to something like x=10000 y=0 |
| 07:31.58 | Corrodias | it contains the art frame |
| 07:32.15 | Corrodias | ah, but nothing is anchored.. |
| 07:32.55 | GenNMX | Yeah those are relative to MainMenuBar, not MainMenuExpBar |
| 07:35.17 | Corrodias | i wish i had some documentation for DisableDrawLayer(); |
| 07:35.24 | Corrodias | got it |
| 07:37.58 | Corrodias | one call to MainMenuExpBar:DisableDrawLayer(); and one call to MainMenuExpBar:DisableDrawLayer("BACKGROUND"); |
| 07:39.00 | GenNMX | cellflirt is the craziest company I've ever seen...like a fox. Are guys pathetic enough to PAY to text message someone they THINK is a real, hot girl? The answer is...yes! |
| 07:39.41 | Corrodias | people pay to play alliance in WoW, don't they? |
| 07:42.10 | Corrodias | NE chicks |
| 07:42.41 | GenNMX | Soon to be a distinction without a difference with Blood Elves ;) |
| 07:43.22 | Corrodias | the horde will be ruined, they say. |
| 07:45.15 | Depherios | every jackass I know playing WoW (people I've met, personally know, or have just run across in game) -- play alliance... either human or NE >_< -- because the horde is ugly... 3 are ricers, another has a ton of glowing crap in his PC case, and the remainder are pretty much idiots XD |
| 07:45.33 | Corrodias | i was using the wrong texture file. the old one. |
| 07:46.04 | Depherios | but yeah... with BEs... I'll be able to play alliance ^_^ all the jerks will split up |
| 07:46.10 | Depherios | lol |
| 07:46.18 | Depherios | So, I don't care too much |
| 07:53.23 | Corrodias | god |
| 07:53.25 | Corrodias | i am NOT an image editor |
| 07:53.48 | Corrodias | there's no way i can make this look decent and natural! :o |
| 07:55.46 | End | finally! (I think) |
| 07:55.51 | Corrodias | maybe i can! :O |
| 07:55.57 | End | code isn't suppose to take that long to fix |
| 07:59.14 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 07:59.51 | Depherios | Problem with images? |
| 08:01.35 | Corrodias | i'm just not normally patient enough to edit images decently |
| 08:01.38 | Corrodias | but i'm making good progress now |
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| 08:06.33 | Corrodias | the fact that my eyes are still a little tired so i'm slightly seeing double isn't helping me edit this image, let me tell you |
| 08:13.10 | futrtrubl | removing the xp bar area from the mainbar art? |
| 08:18.44 | Corrodias | and i have succeeded, finally |
| 08:18.48 | Corrodias | yes |
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| 08:19.13 | Corrodias | ...well, i'm close |
| 08:19.15 | Depherios | Aww should have let me ^_^ -- I'm bored and want to photoshop something |
| 08:19.20 | End | :( :( :( |
| 08:19.25 | End | my code still doesn't work! |
| 08:19.28 | Corrodias | i'm still not quite getting the alpha channel right, it seems |
| 08:19.35 | Kalroth | Like code, like code! |
| 08:19.37 | Corrodias | can't see the latency indicator |
| 08:19.40 | Kalroth | err, like coder |
| 08:19.41 | End | unfortunately, I really should go to bed |
| 08:19.48 | Depherios | G'nighter |
| 08:19.53 | End | night everyone |
| 08:20.18 | Depherios | PEBKAC Kalroth? |
| 08:20.18 | Kalroth | End-sleep? So is that like to finish sleeping? |
| 08:20.25 | Cairenn | night End-sleep |
| 08:20.29 | End-sleep | heh |
| 08:20.32 | End-sleep | night Cairenn |
| 08:20.34 | Depherios | lol |
| 08:20.37 | Corrodias | i flipped the image back but forgot to flip the alpha channel |
| 08:21.18 | Kalroth | Depherios: Yup, 10 inch error! |
| 08:21.30 | Kalroth | (No you perverts, not that) |
| 08:21.30 | Corrodias | sigh, unfortunately, it's still not perfect. at some point in my editing, the image got lighter for some reason |
| 08:21.58 | Depherios | Just darken it with code? ^_^ |
| 08:22.37 | Corrodias | nah, i'd be losing information |
| 08:22.51 | Corrodias | i think it's a problem with my use of loading and editing the alpha channel |
| 08:23.19 | zeeg | hm |
| 08:24.11 | Corrodias | when i load the alpha channel into the mask, it gets lighter. damnit. |
| 08:26.07 | Corrodias | seems to be a slight transparency that screws it up.. okay, i can fix it! |
| 08:29.45 | Depherios | it was easier to image edit unit graphics in STARCRAFT than it is to do this WoW stuff XD |
| 08:29.58 | Depherios | and that was custom building 256 color palletes to have a first color to be the transparency XD |
| 08:32.04 | Corrodias | uhhh okay! |
| 08:32.36 | zeeg | Cairenn, do you have cide on IM? |
| 08:32.53 | Cairenn | currently, or at all? |
| 08:36.04 | zeeg | at all |
| 08:36.22 | Cairenn | yup |
| 08:36.26 | zeeg | I want to go over some specs with him for revisions to the aptcher, that are specifically targeting compilations like UUI, CTMod, and Nurfed. Cide's the only one I dont have direct contact to :) |
| 08:36.41 | zeeg | and i havent seen him here for a few days :| |
| 08:37.23 | Cairenn | he's not logged in though, and I don't like handing out info without permission from the person in question |
| 08:37.30 | zeeg | k |
| 08:37.33 | zeeg | thats fine |
| 08:37.35 | Cairenn | and no, it's NOT because it's you, I won't do it for anyone |
| 08:37.44 | zeeg | if you see him on, could you talk to him and let him know Im looking for him? |
| 08:37.49 | zeeg | my contact info should be in my WoWI prof |
| 08:37.52 | Cairenn | that I can and will do |
| 08:37.52 | zeeg | if not its on wowguru |
| 08:37.58 | zeeg | thanks |
| 08:38.02 | Cairenn | np |
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| 08:41.52 | Depherios | and I have USB ports... without things plugged into them! |
| 08:42.13 | Depherios | still using 8 though >_< but not 11 anymore! |
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| 08:44.20 | Depherios | dayum |
| 08:44.35 | Depherios | the ability to pick what to use ^_^ I can finally keep DFM |
| 08:44.39 | Depherios | ... mabye |
| 08:44.47 | Depherios | *maybe |
| 08:45.13 | tom__ | DFM |
| 08:45.16 | tom__ | *twitch* |
| 08:45.25 | Depherios | lol, I move a LOT around |
| 08:45.33 | id` | so? use visor |
| 08:45.34 | id` | :p |
| 08:45.38 | Depherios | and my compy has the resources to run big addons |
| 08:45.40 | id` | if you only move stuff around |
| 08:45.46 | id` | o then its ok |
| 08:46.32 | Depherios | (drag it, or nudge it around, then look at the numbers and use those) |
| 08:46.54 | Depherios | ... but now it won't use EVERY option, just the ones you activate for that object (i.e. it won't scale everything you try to move lol) |
| 08:54.26 | pagefault | is disenchant info build into the game now? |
| 08:54.49 | id` | grab Periodic Table and Mendeleev |
| 08:55.01 | id` | no wait, those dont do that (yet) |
| 08:55.03 | id` | i think |
| 08:55.05 | id` | :| |
| 08:57.09 | Corrodias | one more reloadui and... |
| 08:57.42 | Corrodias | NoXPBar is complete |
| 08:58.13 | id` | Its an xp bar, without XP! Get your copy today! |
| 08:58.38 | id` | special frame for sall you level 60 nutcases! |
| 08:58.41 | id` | all* |
| 09:00.18 | Corrodias | even ought to work with 1.10, if they don't change the mainmenubar much |
| 09:01.31 | Corrodias | the perfect complement to Basic Experience Bar |
| 09:05.18 | Corrodias | Silver's MiniZoneMap appears to do nothing |
| 09:06.52 | Corrodias | uh oh, i'm not quite finished, looks like. it doesn't draw the experience bar, but it still exists in that mouseover makes text and a tooltip appear |
| 09:08.52 | Corrodias | i can set enablemouse(false), good, although i still can't click through it |
| 09:09.22 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/wgp/#support |
| 09:09.22 | zeeg | :D |
| 09:19.11 | id` | eww |
| 09:19.56 | id` | typo |
| 09:19.57 | id` | The WGP Protocl works much like the standard HTTP protocol. |
| 09:21.58 | zeeg | oops |
| 09:22.16 | zeeg | fixed |
| 09:22.17 | zeeg | :P |
| 09:23.53 | AnduinLothar | sounds like minimalism at it's worst. I jsut made use of the space with GoToBar to count rep or colelction items |
| 09:23.53 | AnduinLothar | saves me from looking a rep screen and bags every few min |
| 09:24.33 | AnduinLothar | cant you decrease the height of the bar and rescale the children? |
| 09:25.11 | Kalroth | Ick, it's made in VB >< |
| 09:26.05 | zeeg | Kalroth, I know.. i was informed it was being done in C#.. I don't know what happened |
| 09:26.10 | zeeg | supposably there's vb->c# converters for .NET |
| 09:26.14 | zeeg | as soon as i find one.. |
| 09:26.22 | Kalroth | don't bother looking :) |
| 09:27.00 | Kalroth | it's two different languages, even if you could convert it, the result would be horrible |
| 09:28.12 | zeeg | they're not that much dif tho |
| 09:28.32 | Kalroth | Trust me, it's more than just the syntax :) |
| 09:29.01 | zeeg | they're both on the same framework though |
| 09:29.13 | zeeg | there's converters out there :) |
| 09:29.22 | zeeg | tho i refuse to waste time learning vb.net |
| 09:37.58 | Corrodias | futrtrubl should talk to me when he or she gets here again |
| 09:46.38 | Cairenn | he |
| 09:48.12 | zeeg | what are we blaming Cairenn for? :P |
| 09:48.19 | Cairenn | what'd I do this time? |
| 09:51.03 | zeeg | http://de.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?p=61814#post61814 |
| 09:51.59 | Kalroth | Cairenn: I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure you did something! |
| 09:52.07 | Cairenn | nevah! |
| 09:54.57 | id` | ^__________________^ |
| 09:55.18 | id` | Cairenn, i wanna live where you live :< |
| 09:56.09 | Cairenn | it's NICE in this little fantasy world of mine! |
| 09:56.29 | id` | i wanna snowboard all day long :( |
| 09:56.44 | id` | instead im becoming an office clerc |
| 09:56.47 | id` | *twitch* |
| 09:56.49 | Depherios | lol |
| 09:57.07 | id` | stupid flat netherlands :( |
| 09:57.33 | id` | really, the name says it all |
| 09:57.40 | Depherios | lol |
| 09:57.46 | id` | Het Koningkrijk der nederlanden |
| 09:57.52 | id` | the kingdom of lower lands |
| 09:57.57 | id` | :| |
| 09:58.12 | Depherios | well.. how much of the netherlands is below sea level now? XD |
| 09:58.14 | id` | highest hill we have is like 300 metres above sea level |
| 09:58.21 | Depherios | oh... all of it? XD |
| 09:58.26 | id` | :P |
| 09:59.04 | id` | i wanna snowboard with my friends |
| 09:59.14 | id` | convince them i really _can_ do 360's |
| 09:59.36 | id` | (they never believe it but are too chicken to go to a snowboard hall with me) |
| 09:59.54 | id` | (we do have indoor snowboarding but it kinda sucks) |
| 10:00.28 | id` | BAAAAAAAAKA |
| 10:00.34 | id` | ~slap Depherios |
| 10:00.40 | purl | ACTION slaps Depherios, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 10:00.52 | Depherios | not in the the years and years i've lived here XD |
| 10:00.56 | id` | where do you live? |
| 10:01.09 | Depherios | Portland Oregon, with Mt Hood just over yonder |
| 10:01.19 | id` | *really sad face* |
| 10:01.21 | Depherios | I even live on the side of portland closest to Hood XD |
| 10:01.37 | id` | why man, why! |
| 10:01.51 | Depherios | my GF lived on Mt St Helens for years |
| 10:02.55 | Depherios | about the only place I really GO go to (that's out of my way) is Powells Books |
| 10:03.09 | Depherios | ..... and that's just because nobody who likes books can resist powells books |
| 10:05.43 | Depherios | now I want to go to powells.... might have to go tomorrow....... Thank god I don't drive |
| 10:05.55 | Corrodias | i have two minor fixes to wardrobe. i feel special. |
| 10:06.04 | Corrodias | more tweaks than fixes i guess |
| 10:07.04 | Depherios | ..... grrr.... Why did you have to remind me about Powells? XD |
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| 10:07.40 | Depherios | This is all yor fault... now I'm thinking about Powells! |
| 10:07.40 | id`` | go wireless :| |
| 10:07.53 | id`` | what did i miss? |
| 10:08.13 | Depherios | [02:02] Depherios: about the only place I really GO go to (that's out of my way) is Powells Books |
| 10:08.26 | Depherios | ..... now I want to go D: |
| 10:08.28 | Depherios | oh... yeah |
| 10:08.33 | Depherios | http://www.powells.com/info/places/burnsideinfo.html |
| 10:08.37 | Depherios | heh, none of you know what it is XD |
| 10:08.44 | Depherios | Largest New and Used Bookstore in the world :F |
| 10:08.57 | id` | i dont like books :( |
| 10:09.04 | id` | except for some fantasy books |
| 10:09.07 | Depherios | lucky... unless you buy DVDs or something |
| 10:09.18 | id` | the times that i HAD to read a book for school ive read some fantasy thingies |
| 10:09.24 | Depherios | but sometimes I get art books, or technical books |
| 10:09.31 | Depherios | there's a whole store filled with technical books >_< |
| 10:09.38 | id` | o ya i have programming books too |
| 10:09.46 | id` | but on DVD :E |
| 10:09.55 | id` | like 20GB of books lol |
| 10:10.04 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:10.07 | Depherios | Once just a small corner of the City of Books, Powell's Technical Books has grown into its own location, covering some 10,000 square feet of retail floor space. |
| 10:10.19 | Depherios | over 80,000 volumes XD |
| 10:10.24 | Depherios | of just technical books XD |
| 10:10.34 | id` | lol |
| 10:10.36 | id` | sick |
| 10:10.43 | Depherios | it has a computer museum build into it XD |
| 10:11.49 | Depherios | but yeah.... powells has a whole room for scifi, fantasy, and mystery novels... and it's not a small room XD |
| 10:12.46 | id` | cewl |
| 10:12.47 | id` | :P |
| 10:13.01 | id` | <id`> i have skated skateboarded snowboarded surfed wakeboarded kitesurfed skii'd freestyle-bmx'ed flatland-bmx'ed and probably more things that i cant think of that fast right now |
| 10:13.20 | Depherios | I used to mountain bike, and hike.... |
| 10:13.27 | id` | i'd so be waking up in a few hours and pulling on my gear and go up the mountain :O |
| 10:13.38 | id` | if i lived where you live |
| 10:13.40 | Depherios | now I just walk and ride everywhere I have to go anyway... |
| 10:13.48 | Depherios | so, hiking isn't much fun XD |
| 10:13.55 | Depherios | although my climbing legs suck now XD |
| 10:14.28 | id` | find a kickbox school and go kickboxing :P |
| 10:14.47 | Depherios | lol... that sounds like work... not fun XD |
| 10:15.01 | id` | lol its fun getting beat up :P |
| 10:16.15 | Depherios | or about 180 cm and uh.... I forget kilos :P |
| 10:16.18 | Depherios | ... buah |
| 10:16.57 | Depherios | everybody but my GF hates me because I measure in metrics |
| 10:17.11 | Kalroth | metrics ftw |
| 10:17.14 | id` | --^ |
| 10:17.19 | Depherios | QFT |
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| 10:17.45 | id` | 126 pounds = 57.1526386 kilograms |
| 10:17.50 | Depherios | heh |
| 10:17.56 | Depherios | ..... does purl do that? XD |
| 10:18.05 | Kalroth | "Hi, I measure stuff in feet, hands, shoeboxes and left thumbs. Guess where I'm from!" |
| 10:18.12 | id` | 6 feet = 1.8288 meters |
| 10:18.13 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:18.14 | id` | no google |
| 10:18.15 | id` | :p |
| 10:18.36 | Depherios | I knew purl didn't do It, I was wondering if purl COULD XD |
| 10:18.46 | Depherios | yeah 182 cm XD -- I know my height in metrics, lol |
| 10:19.02 | id` | im exactly the same length |
| 10:19.13 | id` | but i weigh 83 kilograms :| |
| 10:19.15 | Kalroth | my, you're a short one! |
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| 10:19.26 | id` | 83 kilograms = 182.983678 pounds |
| 10:19.29 | Cairenn | funny, I use metric for most stuff, but I still use imperial for height & weight |
| 10:19.40 | Kalroth | Cairenn: Blame your parents |
| 10:19.41 | id` | and thats too much |
| 10:19.46 | id` | not that im fat though |
| 10:20.01 | id` | but, i need to train it off to not be in the heavyweight category :| |
| 10:20.34 | id` | if im going to step in the ring with this wight ill stand against some brute o_O |
| 10:20.39 | Depherios | Cair: I use 6' because nobody knows metrics... I don't use kilos EVER though :P |
| 10:20.48 | Cairenn | ROFLMAO |
| 10:20.53 | Cairenn | sorry, not about that |
| 10:20.53 | Depherios | I need to start...but yeah |
| 10:21.17 | Cairenn | I'm playing with Firefox atm ... I just "Bork"ed WoWI |
| 10:21.19 | Depherios | ... or nobody |
| 10:21.24 | Kalroth | Cairenn: meanie! |
| 10:21.46 | Cairenn | as in the Swedish chef from the muppets |
| 10:21.50 | id` | like the swedish shef :P bork bork bork |
| 10:21.51 | id` | hahaha |
| 10:21.52 | id` | :D |
| 10:21.54 | Cairenn | funny! |
| 10:22.07 | Kalroth | oh, I did something like that |
| 10:22.08 | Cairenn | Veet zee Getes ooff Ehn'Qurej, noo Ermur Mudels, Leenked Oocshun Huooses, Mooltiple-a Bettlegruoond Qooeooes und mooch mure-a, zee iegerly eveeeted 1.9 Cuntent Petch is noo leefe-a! |
| 10:22.17 | Kalroth | I pornolized our company website :p |
| 10:22.21 | id` | lol Cairenn |
| 10:22.30 | Kalroth | Boss thought it was funny, CEO didn't like it :P |
| 10:22.37 | Cairenn | lol Kalroth |
| 10:22.40 | krka | as a swede, I am offended |
| 10:22.47 | Kalroth | krka: bork booork! |
| 10:22.54 | Cairenn | Lugged in. Bork Bork |
| 10:22.59 | Kalroth | lol |
| 10:23.47 | Depherios | Well... after years of watching the stereotypical americans in anime XD -- I'm proud to be an american...... ROFL |
| 10:23.57 | id` | lol |
| 10:24.13 | Depherios | but then again, that's because I fit the loud, obnoxious sorta stupid bastardly american profile |
| 10:24.16 | id` | Depherios, like the bwahahahaaaaa guy in Bleach? |
| 10:24.25 | id` | xD |
| 10:24.57 | Depherios | the only american profiles I don't fit, are the rich pretty boy, and the lazy fat guy |
| 10:25.41 | Kalroth | you're a rich fat guy? :P |
| 10:25.46 | id` | :P |
| 10:26.03 | Depherios | no... I DON'T fit those profiles... I'm a spaztic skinny guy, and poor |
| 10:26.22 | Kalroth | oh darn, was about to ask you out |
| 10:26.28 | id` | lmao |
| 10:26.45 | id` | less funny! im at work, im scaring coworkers |
| 10:26.52 | id` | :X |
| 10:26.58 | Kalroth | sorry :( |
| 10:27.08 | Kalroth | I'll go and get some more coffee then! |
| 10:27.12 | id` | its like really quiet and i have headphones |
| 10:27.16 | id` | and all of a sudden |
| 10:27.19 | id` | BWAHAHAA |
| 10:27.27 | Depherios | ROFL |
| 10:27.39 | id` | :P |
| 10:27.44 | Depherios | which is why I can't have a desk job XD |
| 10:27.48 | Depherios | holding still = not possible |
| 10:27.49 | Kalroth | And then all the coworkers wants to see whatever you're laughing at |
| 10:27.59 | Kalroth | I got some pr0n movies running in the background for that |
| 10:28.05 | id` | yeah and then i tell them i made a really dumb coding error |
| 10:28.09 | id` | ;< |
| 10:28.10 | Corrodias | is there a way to determine which addons are consuming memory the quickest? |
| 10:28.19 | id` | the quickest? |
| 10:28.20 | Kalroth | So I can quickly switch away from IRC and watch some titties bounce when the come looking |
| 10:28.28 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:28.28 | Kalroth | Don't want them to think I'm some sort of geek! |
| 10:28.29 | id` | lol Kalroth |
| 10:28.36 | Corrodias | well, i just peaked at 60KB/s increasing UI memory usage |
| 10:28.40 | Corrodias | i'm starting to get annoyed |
| 10:28.50 | Kalroth | Corrodias: at login or? |
| 10:28.51 | id` | Corrodias, use less addons |
| 10:29.02 | id` | im at 13MB |
| 10:29.05 | id` | :) |
| 10:29.06 | Depherios | Ouch |
| 10:29.17 | Kalroth | I'm at 24-26mb or so, I think |
| 10:29.18 | Cairenn | anyway, later all, gonna go do that "try to sleep" thing |
| 10:29.20 | Corrodias | no, while running across the countryside, i checked at one point and it was going up at 60 |
| 10:29.23 | id` | nn Cairenn |
| 10:29.24 | Kalroth | g'night Cair |
| 10:29.29 | Depherios | I'm at 5... without auctioneer |
| 10:29.33 | Corrodias | i am at about 38MB at start |
| 10:29.33 | Depherios | wtf are you guys running? XD |
| 10:29.39 | Kalroth | Cosmos :P |
| 10:29.43 | id` | sdjkf;lsdkfg;sdfj |
| 10:29.46 | Depherios | ALL of it? |
| 10:29.52 | Kalroth | hell no |
| 10:29.54 | id` | dump it |
| 10:29.56 | id` | :p |
| 10:29.56 | Corrodias | i gave the UI 64mb to use but the GC threshhold doesn't want to go above 49mb |
| 10:30.08 | Depherios | 0 |
| 10:30.10 | Depherios | lol |
| 10:30.16 | id` | khaos pff |
| 10:30.18 | id` | pussy |
| 10:30.18 | id` | :p |
| 10:30.22 | Depherios | XD |
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| 10:30.31 | id` | cmdline ftw |
| 10:30.32 | id` | :p |
| 10:30.36 | Depherios | I wouldn't run Khaos if the Cosmos addons had proper command linds |
| 10:30.37 | Depherios | lines |
| 10:30.38 | Corrodias | but yes, is there a way to determine which addons are responsible for increasing memory usage, not just what they are using at startup? |
| 10:30.49 | Depherios | I don't even use command lines to /sit, or /logout lol |
| 10:30.52 | Depherios | err |
| 10:30.58 | Depherios | I don't even use UI to /sit or /logout |
| 10:30.59 | id` | gui should be built to drive on top of command line functions |
| 10:31.25 | Depherios | Corrodias: good old fashioned disable half? XD |
| 10:31.27 | id` | it should be an extra, not a standard |
| 10:31.43 | Corrodias | aw, i hate doing that |
| 10:31.45 | Depherios | id, they have command lines, but it's just TOO MANY for some of them |
| 10:32.11 | Depherios | I do too ... bah how to shorten your name XD oh well AUTO COMPLETE IT IS Corrodias |
| 10:32.23 | Depherios | ........ I really need to stop talking like that online, in text.... |
| 10:32.55 | id` | :p |
| 10:32.59 | Depherios | online I do crap that can't be followed without the tone change... and in RL I studder like an idiot, and get everything all backwards XD |
| 10:33.13 | id` | heh |
| 10:33.43 | Corrodias | Update on Auctioneer and EnhTooltip: the original tooltip doesn't always get moved on the first try, when mousing over items in the quest rewards section |
| 10:34.15 | id` | kci ftw \o/ |
| 10:34.50 | Corrodias | i'll probably restore my old workaround version of enhtooltip |
| 10:35.32 | Depherios | figured I might as well update to 2.0.... hadn |
| 10:35.36 | id` | i really feel like im going to have to rewrite all addons i dont like and use |
| 10:35.40 | Depherios | Hadn't realized how much I'd changed |
| 10:35.45 | id` | but, im already doing that :] |
| 10:35.57 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial |
| 10:35.59 | id` | \o/ |
| 10:36.00 | Depherios | what's a good utility for comparing two documents? |
| 10:36.10 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/ui/42/atlas/ |
| 10:36.11 | zeeg | new atlas |
| 10:36.14 | Depherios | GASP.... COLOR! |
| 10:36.25 | id` | i know sorry |
| 10:36.27 | id` | i suck at design |
| 10:36.28 | Depherios | what happened!? |
| 10:36.32 | Depherios | lol XD |
| 10:36.39 | id` | oh, ok |
| 10:36.40 | id` | ;p |
| 10:36.42 | Depherios | although the links would look better red too ^_^ |
| 10:36.47 | id` | zeeg any tips mr webdev? |
| 10:36.53 | id` | ya havent done that yet |
| 10:37.12 | id` | look @ the source |
| 10:37.14 | id` | ;) |
| 10:37.54 | Depherios | too many years on dial up >_< |
| 10:37.57 | id` | right, scanlines! thats what i fergot |
| 10:38.09 | id` | gunna add a little image for shadow to elft and right |
| 10:38.15 | id` | it will be 5 pixels big \o/ |
| 10:38.41 | id` | but not now |
| 10:39.10 | Depherios | thank god I don't have to use tables anymore |
| 10:39.14 | Depherios | YAY FOR THAT |
| 10:39.28 | Depherios | although I can still do highly complex table layouts in my head ^_^ |
| 10:39.46 | id` | :p |
| 10:39.54 | id` | i used to use tables to make 1px borders |
| 10:40.04 | Depherios | 3 years of helping people do web design back before the stupefaction of the intarweb |
| 10:40.09 | Depherios | ditto id |
| 10:40.57 | Kalroth | zeeg: does wowguru got a list of AQ items (after they got updated in 1.9)? |
| 10:42.36 | id` | anyone have any tips for my addons? |
| 10:42.38 | id` | http://industrial.tadalist.com/lists/public/185167 |
| 10:42.46 | id` | thats the tada list i have ATM |
| 10:43.44 | zeeg | Kalroth, i got everything! :D |
| 10:43.48 | zeeg | www.wowguru.com/patches/patch-1-9-0.html |
| 10:44.40 | Kalroth | sexy! |
| 10:46.25 | id` | no-one? |
| 10:47.04 | id` | i guess i need to make a quick form for people to fill in so i can get feedback really easy |
| 10:47.11 | zeeg | my tip, is host it on wowgur :D |
| 10:47.20 | zeeg | but ya, a contact form would be helpful im sure |
| 10:47.26 | id` | no thx i like my host |
| 10:47.44 | id` | i wont release anything on any wow site because that would involve me in the whole community |
| 10:47.49 | id` | (including wowi) |
| 10:47.53 | zeeg | hrm |
| 10:47.54 | zeeg | ok |
| 10:47.58 | zeeg | www.mmofiles.com/add-file.php |
| 10:47.58 | zeeg | :) |
| 10:48.02 | id` | i'd have to browse alot of forums and reply to users etcetc |
| 10:48.11 | id` | dont have the time |
| 10:48.19 | id` | maybe ill releasy all the little bits as a pack some time |
| 10:48.23 | zeeg | this'll just point them to your site and make people know about it a bit more |
| 10:48.24 | id` | release* |
| 10:48.32 | zeeg | mmofiles dont host anything, just lists files |
| 10:49.20 | id` | k |
| 10:49.59 | zeeg | its not completely done, but it works :) |
| 10:50.24 | id` | nice editboxes |
| 10:50.28 | id` | ont eh register form |
| 10:50.34 | zeeg | ya, the whole sites like that |
| 10:50.52 | id` | you made it? |
| 10:50.53 | zeeg | like I said, not done though :) |
| 10:50.54 | zeeg | ya |
| 10:54.41 | id` | You are currently at level 0. You need 35 experience points to gain a level. |
| 10:54.43 | id` | lol |
| 10:54.55 | Depherios | O_o |
| 10:56.33 | Depherios | buah! |
| 10:56.38 | Depherios | worst combination ever :P |
| 10:56.39 | Depherios | You smash at the barricade. Part of it collapses. The last few sections of it fall away. |
| 10:56.39 | Depherios | You have run out of Action Points. |
| 10:57.31 | id` | MUD? :p |
| 10:57.45 | id` | http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=GLO8GZE |
| 10:57.46 | id` | woot |
| 10:57.49 | id` | ;x |
| 10:57.54 | id` | my double match \o/ |
| 10:58.30 | id` | need to put some money on my paypal go go and get membership and send her an email |
| 10:58.30 | id` | ;x |
| 10:58.40 | zeeg | :P |
| 10:58.42 | id` | cause she lives in the same city |
| 10:58.44 | id` | \o/ |
| 10:58.47 | zeeg | id`, like the site so far then? |
| 10:59.13 | id` | zeeg, yes |
| 10:59.28 | id` | zeeg, when i make a link does it directly link to my own host? |
| 10:59.40 | zeeg | ya itll name it whatever from whatever.com |
| 10:59.44 | id` | ok |
| 11:00.10 | id` | because when it will get a bit more popular (doubt it) ill need to get a different host ;) |
| 11:00.22 | zeeg | ah, ya you can edit mirrors too |
| 11:00.24 | id` | my current one is a RL friend that gave me a shell account |
| 11:00.30 | zeeg | on the actual files page, you'll see the links |
| 11:00.31 | id` | to irc from and stuff |
| 11:00.35 | id` | k |
| 11:00.47 | zeeg | you should be able to pretty much edit all info |
| 11:00.52 | zeeg | from the files page itself |
| 11:00.59 | zeeg | as long as you're logged in, otherwise you can only edit mirrors/tags |
| 11:01.10 | zeeg | you might not be able to edit tags, i dont think i fixed that yet so if you're the author you dont have to be level 1 |
| 11:02.19 | id` | zeeg, one thing though, the site seems to be aimed at movies |
| 11:02.23 | id` | Automatically give props to this movie after submission |
| 11:02.28 | id` | but im submitting a wow addon :) |
| 11:02.33 | zeeg | whoops |
| 11:02.33 | zeeg | ya |
| 11:02.38 | zeeg | www.mmotheatre.com <- base of the portal |
| 11:02.41 | zeeg | mmofiles was the new "dev site" |
| 11:02.45 | zeeg | until the patch released, i decided to go live |
| 11:02.56 | id` | k |
| 11:03.13 | zeeg | fixed |
| 11:03.14 | zeeg | :) |
| 11:03.42 | id` | http://wow.mmofiles.com/ui-mods/497/idminimap.html |
| 11:04.49 | zeeg | :) |
| 11:09.13 | id` | i like that it has RSS |
| 11:09.19 | id` | thats what i miss with the UI sites |
| 11:09.44 | id` | RSS telling me theres a new version of my interface enhancement |
| 11:09.58 | id` | and/or showing the last 10 as they get updated |
| 11:15.03 | zeeg | wowguru has rss |
| 11:15.11 | zeeg | and xml per-file |
| 11:15.14 | zeeg | so will mmofiles |
| 11:16.56 | Corrodias | hey, what events are happening practically all the time? |
| 11:16.56 | zeeg | i think WOWI might too |
| 11:16.59 | zeeg | not sure about any of the other sites |
| 11:17.03 | zeeg | onupdate |
| 11:17.35 | Corrodias | anything else that's really frequent? |
| 11:18.25 | zeeg | couldnt tell ya, maybe someone else can :) |
| 11:19.33 | Corrodias | thanks for that at least |
| 11:19.42 | Corrodias | i'm going to see which of my addons are listening for that event, later |
| 11:21.56 | zeeg | id`, http://www.wowguru.com/syndicate/rss.php |
| 11:25.51 | Corrodias | balls, lots of my addons use onupdate |
| 11:37.16 | id` | Corrodias, boo |
| 11:38.53 | Depherios | what did you use to find out? just looking through the code? |
| 11:41.30 | Corrodias | is onupdate called every frame? |
| 11:42.14 | Corrodias | yes |
| 11:42.23 | Corrodias | (yes to Depherios, not my own question) |
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| 11:42.44 | id`` | faggot wireless |
| 11:42.46 | id`` | :| |
| 11:42.47 | Corrodias | is onupdate called every frame? |
| 11:43.06 | id`` | yes |
| 11:45.35 | id`` | Corrodias, what addons did you make? :O |
| 11:46.48 | Corrodias | i've only written a little one to remove the xp bar. i'm looking through the ones i'm using |
| 11:46.55 | id`` | oic |
| 11:47.12 | id`` | devastating ones are button mods |
| 11:47.31 | id`` | i think even blizzard registers 30 events or so per button and does stuff onupdate |
| 11:47.51 | id`` | monkey, even |
| 11:48.09 | Corrodias | bgbuddy or channelmanager has a significant impact, i will save those for later |
| 11:48.18 | Corrodias | on the order of 11KB/s |
| 11:53.14 | id`` | *yawn* better get some work done |
| 12:01.13 | id`` | why cant you see what they are doing to what we believe in we rise through the paaaaiiiiin |
| 12:01.19 | id`` | ride with the steel and the power of the sword |
| 12:01.25 | id`` | stand op and fight now and forever more |
| 12:01.30 | id`` | lah alh lah |
| 12:01.31 | id`` | :p |
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| 12:02.27 | id`` | oh noes, it r the Cairenn |
| 12:02.34 | id`` | shh shes back shhh all hide shhh |
| 12:03.14 | id`` | haha its so fun how little kids think |
| 12:03.26 | id`` | 'if i close my eyes i cant see you so im not here anymore' |
| 12:04.14 | id`` | unfortunately i cant support myself yet and still live at home :| (im 18) |
| 12:13.04 | id`` | ow cmon everyone asleep? |
| 12:13.19 | Kalroth | I'm not! |
| 12:13.29 | Kalroth | but I can't think of anything to say, so I'm lurking |
| 12:13.40 | Kalroth | (yes, rare moment, enjoy it!) |
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| 12:17.47 | id`` | Proud and so glorious, standing before of us. Our swords will shine bright in the sky. When united we come, to the light of the sun. With the heart of a dragon we riiiiide! |
| 12:17.54 | id`` | NANA NANANANA NANA NANANANA |
| 12:18.01 | id`` | \m/ >_< \m/ |
| 12:18.27 | id`` | oops s/light/land/ |
| 12:19.52 | id`` | when united we come and divided they fall, tonight you will witness it allllll |
| 12:19.59 | id`` | :p |
| 12:20.13 | id`` | Dragonforce - Heart of a dragon |
| 12:20.21 | id`` | power metal \o/ |
| 12:21.54 | id`` | *wicked sick double guitar solo* |
| 12:23.02 | id`` | too bad i cant directly express music and joy over irc :< |
| 12:24.30 | id`` | (don;t you love monologues) |
| 12:37.14 | Corrodias | well, i know the addons that were using so much memory, now |
| 12:37.34 | Corrodias | 1) BGBuddy2 used between 13 and 20 KB/s |
| 12:38.06 | Corrodias | 2) Auctioneer/EnhTooltip tends to use 20 or 30 KB/s if you quickly mouse over some items |
| 12:38.25 | Corrodias | (such as when looting a corpse manually) |
| 12:47.39 | Corrodias | i see DamageMeters has had many updates since my version |
| 12:47.48 | Corrodias | ah, it no longer uses RegisterForSave ^_^ |
| 12:49.21 | id`` | when i see an addon that i like and use for a while i am going to want to make my own |
| 12:49.30 | id`` | unless its too difficult liek Visor o_O |
| 13:01.50 | Corrodias | i don't understand |
| 13:02.01 | Corrodias | you will want to remake it, or it will inspire you to go out and make some unrelated addon? |
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| 13:10.47 | id`` | remake it |
| 13:11.16 | id`` | usually without any chat options or configurability, because im already doing that by making it |
| 13:11.28 | id`` | drastically shrinking it in size |
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| 13:19.49 | id` | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=14439#14439 |
| 13:19.53 | id` | haha im so childish |
| 13:34.00 | id` | http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/149/untitled5sb.png |
| 13:34.18 | id` | <id`> we are the ace monkey ninjas |
| 13:34.18 | id` | <id`> we fling poo at noobies then disappear in a shroud of mist |
| 13:34.19 | id` | <Tekkub> fling poo in their eyes, take their good ideas, and hearth out |
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| 13:45.50 | Corrodias | i wonder what bgbuddy was doing in EVERY FRAME that took so much memory |
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| 14:50.51 | Beladona | mmm |
| 14:50.59 | Beladona | today I try to builod my own linux distro |
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| 15:01.04 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 15:03.05 | Shouryuu | fine |
| 15:03.08 | kremonte | Beladona.. build your own distro? |
| 15:03.11 | kremonte | RAWR |
| 15:03.13 | kremonte | quiet frenchie |
| 15:03.14 | Shouryuu | My rawrs aren;t good enough for you |
| 15:03.14 | Beladona | aye |
| 15:03.16 | Shouryuu | oh |
| 15:03.17 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 15:03.31 | kremonte | Beladona: why? O_o |
| 15:03.32 | Beladona | got a virtual environment running, and going to compile linux from scratch |
| 15:03.36 | Beladona | because I want to |
| 15:03.38 | Beladona | because I can |
| 15:03.40 | Beladona | =P |
| 15:04.03 | kremonte | pfft, compiling linux is no big deal |
| 15:04.17 | kremonte | ive compiled dozens of kernels for gentoo >_< |
| 15:04.23 | Beladona | right |
| 15:04.25 | kremonte | speaking of which, i may install it on this notebook... |
| 15:04.28 | kremonte | ubuntu won't work :'( |
| 15:04.38 | Beladona | but have you downloaded, chosen, and compiled everything from scratch |
| 15:04.44 | kremonte | only problem is, atop that it's 64bit, it has an ATI card -.- |
| 15:04.52 | kremonte | Beladona: pretty much =P |
| 15:04.58 | Beladona | gentoo isn't the same thing |
| 15:05.02 | kremonte | i know |
| 15:05.14 | Beladona | I am talking doing wgets on each component and manually sourcing it |
| 15:05.18 | kremonte | i've started with a completely blank system though |
| 15:05.18 | Beladona | hehe |
| 15:05.24 | kremonte | oh, compiling everything? |
| 15:05.28 | Beladona | aye |
| 15:05.29 | kremonte | no, i don't have the patience =) |
| 15:05.37 | Beladona | the kernel, gnome, xorg, everything |
| 15:05.42 | kremonte | compiling the gimp made me cry |
| 15:05.47 | Beladona | I want to test out a completely xorg7 system |
| 15:05.49 | kremonte | took me like 3 hours |
| 15:05.53 | kremonte | ooh, xorg7 |
| 15:06.13 | kremonte | i still dont understand any big features with it :( |
| 15:06.20 | kremonte | i just want xgl working, that thing is crazy |
| 15:06.24 | kremonte | or at least luminosity |
| 15:06.45 | Beladona | yeah |
| 15:07.00 | Beladona | supposedly the compositor in xorg7 is super stable though |
| 15:07.05 | kremonte | i showed my dad a video of the boogly windows, he was shattered |
| 15:07.07 | Beladona | on nvidia cards anyway |
| 15:07.15 | kremonte | i think his head turned completely upside down |
| 15:07.25 | Beladona | yeah I cant wait for a working version of luminosity |
| 15:07.34 | kremonte | yeah, my next step is learning how to replace a video card on a notebook >.> |
| 15:07.46 | Beladona | it runs almost completely via gls |
| 15:07.47 | Beladona | glx |
| 15:07.55 | kremonte | my last endeavours opening a laptop ended in.... well, just just say i have a spare 30gb hd |
| 15:07.58 | Beladona | it may as well be a gaming engine for your os |
| 15:08.32 | kremonte | omgomgomgg , make a special glx distro called StretchyLinux |
| 15:10.15 | Beladona | lol |
| 15:10.44 | Beladona | wish they would just hurry up and release the next ubuntu release |
| 15:10.53 | Beladona | it has xorg 7 in it |
| 15:10.57 | kremonte | april...20? |
| 15:11.01 | Beladona | think so |
| 15:11.13 | kremonte | i just figured out the form of version #'s in ubuntu |
| 15:11.16 | kremonte | like 15 minutes ago |
| 15:14.05 | End | hrmm |
| 15:14.59 | Beladona | I might just download dapper and test it out |
| 15:15.23 | kremonte | from what i heard its somewhat stable |
| 15:16.36 | Beladona | the main reason they can't put it out is that X is currently in a dev cycle |
| 15:16.49 | Beladona | and won't be frozen until late February |
| 15:16.57 | Beladona | or so the X developers say |
| 15:18.37 | kremonte | gah i need something to do |
| 15:18.45 | kremonte | i dont have access to my linux machine right now :'( |
| 15:19.08 | kremonte | ooh! ill play megaman roms |
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| 15:20.42 | kremonte | hi id`! |
| 15:20.54 | id` | hi kremonte ! |
| 15:20.58 | kremonte | ^^ |
| 15:21.17 | id` | :@ |
| 15:21.21 | kremonte | :% |
| 15:21.22 | id` | windows* |
| 15:21.26 | kremonte | lol |
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| 15:22.23 | kremonte | hi Elkano and ForgottenLords! |
| 15:22.29 | kremonte | woooooooh |
| 15:22.30 | Elkano | ho :) |
| 15:23.29 | kremonte | hahahahahaha SWG commercial |
| 15:42.20 | Beladona | mmm |
| 15:42.23 | End | mmmmm? |
| 15:42.23 | Beladona | xgl is nice |
| 15:42.38 | Beladona | a pain to get installed, but it beats xcompmgr |
| 15:43.46 | Beladona | durnit |
| 15:44.05 | Beladona | I find myself using linux console commands in windows cmd now |
| 15:44.40 | End | cygwin ftw? |
| 15:44.52 | kremonte | cygwin ftl |
| 15:44.55 | kremonte | thats like reverse wine |
| 15:44.58 | kremonte | and thts not good D: |
| 15:45.08 | End | I WILL TAKE MY CYGWIN AND LIKE IT |
| 15:45.22 | End | I blame WoW |
| 15:45.32 | End | WoW got me using windows in the first place >_< |
| 15:45.42 | Beladona | screw that |
| 15:45.50 | Beladona | I made wow bow before the might of linux |
| 15:45.54 | Beladona | =) |
| 15:45.55 | kremonte | FFXI got me using windows |
| 15:46.04 | kremonte | FFXI + linux = ?lol |
| 15:46.04 | End | I couldn't get the sound to work right |
| 15:46.09 | Beladona | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:46.16 | Beladona | it seems hit or miss with most people |
| 15:46.20 | Beladona | mine thankfully was hit |
| 15:46.31 | Elkano | O-tanjobi omedetô gozaimasu Beladona :) |
| 15:46.45 | End | oh, and the lack of selection circle -really- bothered me :-/ |
| 15:46.54 | End | btw, did they actually fix that in WoW? |
| 15:46.55 | Beladona | that is fixable |
| 15:47.04 | Beladona | yes they did |
| 15:47.04 | End | or do you still have to use the opengl fix? |
| 15:47.07 | End | cool |
| 15:47.07 | Beladona | in 1.9 |
| 15:47.14 | End | that's a very good thing |
| 15:47.51 | Elkano | well, it's fixed, but sometimes you'll get two circles... but at least on the same mob ^^ |
| 15:48.05 | End | two circles? |
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| 15:48.08 | Beladona | yeah |
| 15:48.09 | End | like..where? |
| 15:48.12 | kremonte | wooohooo |
| 15:48.15 | Beladona | but I doubt anyone minds |
| 15:48.18 | kremonte | im playing rockman exe 4 in jp |
| 15:48.27 | kremonte | back in the world of eigo |
| 15:48.33 | Elkano | well, a bit over/under the position where the first one is |
| 15:48.36 | kremonte | BAREIYA GO! |
| 15:48.54 | Beladona | its basically just redering two circles instead of one, or none |
| 15:48.59 | Beladona | on the same mob |
| 15:49.45 | End | hmm |
| 15:50.30 | Beladona | its minorly annoying, but it is a better annoyance than no circle |
| 15:52.28 | End | hmm, someone actually submitted a patch for an addon of mine |
| 15:52.35 | End | and ack, it's in CRLF! |
| 15:52.44 | kremonte | q.q |
| 15:52.52 | End | tried to do a diff, and it didn't work so well |
| 15:52.56 | Beladona | gimps |
| 15:53.12 | End | diff thought the -entire- file was different |
| 15:53.17 | Beladona | hahaha |
| 15:53.55 | End | I don't like how they did it though :P |
| 15:54.11 | End | they wanted to make it so Yatlas would automatically go to player position on open |
| 15:54.17 | End | however they made the setting global |
| 15:54.22 | End | instead of per frame |
| 15:54.53 | End | I suppose in the current state that is understandable, considering there is no way to set options for the fullscreen frame >_< |
| 16:16.03 | Ktron | heh, some one should figure out how to make yatlas' frame match up under the minimap to get a bigger minimap |
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| 16:17.03 | krka | how did yatlas get those maps? |
| 16:18.12 | Ktron | painfully heh, I assume they zoomed them |
| 16:18.15 | End | the textures are all located in textures\Minimap |
| 16:18.47 | End | in other words |
| 16:19.18 | End | Texture:SetTexture("textures\\Minimap\\blahblah") |
| 16:21.17 | kremonte | happy birthday Beladona |
| 16:21.25 | Beladona | was yesterday |
| 16:21.32 | kremonte | i know |
| 16:21.37 | kremonte | but i dont remember if i said anything |
| 16:21.39 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Beladona -> Happy Coding! |
| 16:21.43 | Beladona | hehe |
| 16:21.46 | kremonte | coz im way too many drugs right now |
| 16:21.47 | End | Happy coding Beladona |
| 16:21.52 | Beladona | lol |
| 16:22.30 | End | I'm not sure if I said happy birthday, but I -KNOW- I didn't say happy coding, so I thought I'd be safe and say it |
| 16:22.43 | kremonte | happy coding End |
| 16:22.47 | End | :) |
| 16:22.52 | kremonte | if (oogabooga) then |
| 16:22.56 | kremonte | HappyCoding() |
| 16:22.56 | kremonte | End |
| 16:23.01 | kremonte | did your irc beep? |
| 16:23.02 | kremonte | :D |
| 16:23.04 | krka | oh, i thought the minimap was kinda native |
| 16:23.14 | kremonte | krka |
| 16:23.15 | End | my irc doesn't beep, it just changes the line color |
| 16:23.18 | kremonte | the minimap is evil |
| 16:23.20 | kremonte | End: aww! |
| 16:23.35 | End | hehe |
| 16:23.47 | kremonte | some guys named was Sovereign(he was an op) in a channel i was in..it beeped when people said "sov", so people would do it all night |
| 16:23.52 | kremonte | he'd get so pissed, it was cute |
| 16:24.32 | End | krka: well, it is, sorta. but the WoW client has to get it from somewhere too right? and it's available just like -any- other texture in the data files |
| 16:25.33 | kremonte | the minimap has access to a lota cool things :( |
| 16:26.26 | End | obviously I can't reproduce the minimap -entirely- using Yatlas, since some things such tracking aren't available via the api |
| 16:27.02 | End | (aside from the make the minimap really small, stick it under the mouse and check for a tooltip method of course ;P ) |
| 16:27.12 | kremonte | ie, the lag method |
| 16:27.14 | kremonte | ^_^ |
| 16:33.40 | krka | interesting... |
| 16:33.53 | krka | couldn't you superposition the minimap textures on top of the world map textures? |
| 16:33.57 | krka | that might look cool |
| 16:34.16 | End | I think I know what you mean |
| 16:34.18 | krka | can you check which texture the minimap is using btw? |
| 16:34.24 | End | no |
| 16:34.26 | End | or |
| 16:34.27 | krka | damn |
| 16:34.28 | End | I don't think so |
| 16:34.44 | End | I haven't seen any way, and I really doubt there is one :P |
| 16:34.45 | krka | so no checking indoor / outdoor :( |
| 16:35.15 | End | well, the minimap is made up of a lot of textures at once |
| 16:35.26 | End | first you have up to 4 textures for terrain |
| 16:35.39 | Tain | The minimap gets really nuts if you try doing other things with it sometimes. |
| 16:35.39 | End | and then you can have a varied number of building textures |
| 16:36.13 | End | so if you could ask for a texture, you'd get several :P |
| 16:36.26 | Tain | I tried duplicating the Minimap once so you could have two at the same time, even though it'd be the same thing. |
| 16:36.35 | Tain | Crazy, bad things resulted. |
| 16:36.53 | kremonte | what happened, tain? D: |
| 16:37.33 | kremonte | well, you could create a pseudo minimap, by duplicating the world map w/ minimap textures, then using player location |
| 16:37.46 | End | unfortunately |
| 16:37.54 | Tain | The textures for both were all messed up, out of place, not working right even on the original untouched minimap |
| 16:37.54 | End | you don't have player location in instances |
| 16:38.09 | kremonte | instances booo |
| 16:38.15 | End | well |
| 16:38.17 | Tain | I guess someone just needs to write ShowEQ for WoW. :) |
| 16:38.19 | End | unmapped instances :P |
| 16:38.26 | End | I consider BGs to be instances |
| 16:38.29 | End | but they are mapped |
| 16:42.06 | krka | I consider battlegrounds, subway, the dungeons, kalimdor and eastern continent to be instances |
| 16:46.44 | End | well, only one instance of the tram, kalimdor and the eastern continents are supposed to exist at a time, but yeah, it's really not even much of a stretch :P |
| 16:47.02 | End | sometimes I call them all zones or maps, but that usually confuses people |
| 16:47.40 | End | since when I say that usually people think of say, Ashenvale, instead of Kalimdor |
| 16:48.35 | krka | not sure what |
| 16:48.48 | krka | 's a good name for the places you can travel through without loading screen |
| 16:49.26 | End | I tend to call them areas I guess |
| 16:49.33 | End | I dunno |
| 16:49.39 | End | that is one of the problems though |
| 16:50.38 | End | well |
| 16:50.46 | End | hmm |
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| 17:26.40 | Shouryuu | I don't understand these people who ask for add-ons that notify who's turn it is to loot, because core hounds don't get looted. Can't they put it on ML? |
| 17:27.14 | Maldivia | dont think you can set ML threshold that low |
| 17:27.31 | Maldivia | all items below the ML threshold is still group loot |
| 17:27.38 | Shouryuu | true dat |
| 17:27.42 | krka | double true |
| 17:28.01 | Maldivia | FFA loot on hounds |
| 17:28.08 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 17:28.09 | Maldivia | that's about the only way to be sure |
| 17:28.15 | Tain | Why do they complain? |
| 17:28.40 | Maldivia | because people in MC dont want to loot hounds, so they can be skinned |
| 17:28.47 | Tain | Screw them vultures. |
| 17:28.51 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:29.10 | Shouryuu | anyone here know any good anime? |
| 17:29.18 | Tain | Serves them right, payback for every time someone followed me around as I was killing things skinning behind me. |
| 17:29.30 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 17:29.32 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:29.38 | Tain | Shouryuu: I just picked up M.D. Geist director's cut. Loved that one, forgot about it until recently. |
| 17:30.07 | Tain | I'm going to assume you've seen Fist of the North Star. |
| 17:30.14 | Maldivia | anyone read the rant on the raid and dungeons forum, about someone thinking that the ML was stealing from them, and asking a GM what dropped, who replied he should ask the ML instead ? |
| 17:30.21 | Shouryuu | nope I haven't |
| 17:30.37 | Tain | Oooh that's mandatory. |
| 17:30.40 | Shouryuu | and nope to mald as well |
| 17:31.06 | Tain | Fist of the North Star is one of my all-time favorites. |
| 17:31.11 | Shouryuu | I've seen most of the ghiblis |
| 17:31.11 | Tain | And Vampire Hunter D. |
| 17:31.27 | Shouryuu | never seen that neither |
| 17:32.15 | Tain | Thsoe are all movies. For series the old Ranma 1/2 were funny. Action/comedy |
| 17:32.46 | Shouryuu | meh ranma |
| 17:32.48 | Shouryuu | is like |
| 17:32.49 | Shouryuu | meh |
| 17:33.00 | Tain | hehe well it's been years since I saw it |
| 17:33.04 | Tain | I was just going on memory. |
| 17:33.08 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 17:33.10 | Shouryuu | it's old |
| 17:33.31 | Tain | Soem stuff doesn't hold up as well over time and doesn't seem as good as the first time. |
| 17:33.40 | Shouryuu | exactly :P |
| 17:33.50 | Shouryuu | is Vampire D a movie or a series? |
| 17:34.50 | Shouryuu | lol my share ration on demonoid is 752,609,238 |
| 17:36.12 | Maldivia | and that is? |
| 17:36.34 | Shouryuu | demonoid? |
| 17:36.37 | Shouryuu | a torrent site |
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| 17:36.40 | Maldivia | ok |
| 17:38.25 | Tain | Vampire Hunter D is a movie. |
| 17:38.40 | Tain | There was a new one made in the last couple of years that wasn't as good. |
| 17:38.58 | Tain | It's like Vampire Hunter D 2000 or something silly like that. |
| 17:39.02 | Tain | The original is good. |
| 17:40.34 | Osagasu | Bloodlust? |
| 17:40.41 | Osagasu | I like Bloodlust. |
| 17:41.17 | Tain | I haven't seen that. |
| 17:41.36 | Tain | There's also some of the more recent (relatively speaking) movies. Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away |
| 17:43.42 | Shoury|maths | those are cool |
| 17:44.00 | Shoury|maths | mononoke is really my favorite |
| 17:44.37 | Tain | Yeah I do love that. |
| 17:46.05 | krka | can you click on frames or do you need buttons for that? |
| 17:46.20 | Shoury|maths | I;m guessing you can |
| 17:46.25 | Shoury|maths | but I'm guessing I'm wrong |
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| 17:50.05 | Tain | You should be able to. |
| 17:50.27 | Tain | I haven't tried though, but the button definitions don't add OnClick specifically so they must be inhereted from base frames. |
| 17:52.58 | krka | thanks |
| 17:55.18 | Legorol | Button definition adds OnClick, you dont' have OnClick handler on pure frames |
| 17:55.33 | Legorol | however you do have mouseevents such as MouseDown and MouseUp which you can use to simulate a click |
| 17:56.00 | Legorol | sorry Tain ;-) |
| 17:56.38 | Legorol | == paste warning == |
| 17:56.49 | Legorol | For Frames: |
| 17:56.49 | Legorol | Events: |
| 17:56.49 | Legorol | OnEvent, OnUpdate, OnLoad, OnShow, OnHide, OnEnter, OnLeave, OnSizeChanged |
| 17:56.50 | Legorol | OnMouseDown, OnMouseUp, OnMouseWheel |
| 17:56.50 | Legorol | Note: OnMouseUp is called even if the mouse is released outside this frame |
| 17:56.50 | Legorol | if RegisterForDrag("xxButton") was called, then |
| 17:56.51 | Legorol | OnDragStart, OnDragStop, OnReceiveDrag |
| 17:56.53 | Legorol | Note: OnDragStop is called even if the mouse is released outside this frame |
| 17:56.55 | Legorol | OnMouseUp is not called once dragging has started |
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| 18:01.51 | krka | to summarize: I need Button if I want to use OnClick |
| 18:01.52 | krka | ? |
| 18:02.15 | Legorol | yes |
| 18:02.48 | krka | thanks :) |
| 18:02.56 | Legorol | For a Button, |
| 18:02.56 | Legorol | Events: |
| 18:02.57 | Legorol | Almost identical to Frame in every way, except that it also has: |
| 18:02.57 | Legorol | OnClick, OnDoubleClick |
| 18:03.03 | krka | I'm assuming OnMouseDown and OnMouseUp can't cast spells |
| 18:03.04 | Tain | Ahh I missed that Onclick was defined in the button, I even took a quick look at still missed it. :) |
| 18:03.13 | Legorol | krka, afaik they can |
| 18:03.30 | Legorol | Tain, where do you see these definitions? |
| 18:03.37 | Legorol | because i only know this from practical experience |
| 18:04.28 | Tain | haha I was lookign somewhere that wouldn't have showed those anyway. And I knew that since I'd looked to try to find lists of all the On... events before. |
| 18:04.44 | Legorol | there is a list of all Onxxxxx in UI.xsd |
| 18:04.51 | Legorol | but it doesn't say which one belongs to which frame type :( |
| 18:06.20 | Tain | But I had looked at the wowwiki page on frames and it had said: |
| 18:06.23 | Tain | "All widgets can have all of these handlers (with the exception of UI, LayoutFrame, Texture and FontString, which can't have a Scripts element)" |
| 18:06.45 | End | I wouldn't call UI a widget |
| 18:06.52 | Tain | But that doesn't really mean a lot since not all widgets have all fields. |
| 18:07.10 | Tain | Well widgets is just the name they use there. |
| 18:07.15 | End | anyways |
| 18:07.49 | Tain | And it probably is supposed to be UIParent. |
| 18:07.58 | End | can you give say..OnDoubleClick to a normal Frame without it complaining?...and it'll just be impossible to get called? |
| 18:08.05 | End | except UIParent is just a normal Frame |
| 18:08.25 | Legorol | Tain, that text on the wiki was written by me :-) |
| 18:08.28 | Legorol | and it's outdated and wrong |
| 18:08.40 | End | hehe |
| 18:08.55 | Legorol | At the moment, it works like this: you can define any <On...> in XML for any widget you like |
| 18:09.06 | Legorol | However, only those that are appropriate for that widget will ever actually fire |
| 18:09.23 | Legorol | And when you log in, you get a warning in FrameXML.log if a tag is present that is not appropriate for that type of widget |
| 18:09.53 | Legorol | So having an <OnClick> for a frame doesn't invalidate the XML, and the frame will be loaded/created, but OnClick will never fire |
| 18:10.17 | Legorol | The text is correct in calling "UI" a widget |
| 18:10.20 | Cide | cladhaire: I am farming! |
| 18:10.38 | Legorol | That text is based on UI.xsd, so it's more like rules on valid XML syntax than anything |
| 18:11.15 | End | ok, so it does notice if you have incorrect script handlers |
| 18:11.41 | End | (but barely cares) |
| 18:11.49 | Legorol | yes |
| 18:12.11 | Legorol | Which is the perfect thing for it to do, because: |
| 18:12.25 | Legorol | this allows you to see if you added a handler that will never fire, so you can correct your mistakes, |
| 18:12.46 | Legorol | but on the other hand it allows for example a virtual frame to have an OnClick handler, and you can then inherit that frame in a button's definition |
| 18:13.24 | Legorol | if it totally ignored incorrect handlers, than you couldn't define OnClick in a virtual frame than inherit it in a button |
| 18:13.45 | End | that makes sense |
| 18:14.02 | Legorol | some have argued that if you define an OnClick, you should be using a virtual button and not a virtual frame |
| 18:14.12 | Legorol | but I disagree with that |
| 18:14.21 | Legorol | for example, at the moment you can have a virtual frame with every single handler defined, |
| 18:14.30 | Legorol | and you can inherit that frame in a widget of your choice |
| 18:14.44 | Legorol | and only those handlers that are appropriate for the inheriting widget will be "active" |
| 18:15.03 | Legorol | I think that's a pretty good arrangement |
| 18:15.13 | Legorol | Even though it means you get 100 warnings for the virtual frame ;-) |
| 18:16.43 | End | hmm |
| 18:17.00 | End | slouken started saying fixed in 1.9.2 now instead of just 1.9.1 |
| 18:17.24 | Legorol | is it just me or do you guys have hte feeling that despite all the testing, 1.9 was rushed? |
| 18:17.42 | Legorol | we have now reached the point where Blizz's UI can cause red Lua errors in common situations |
| 18:17.50 | Legorol | and not just under obscure scenarios |
| 18:18.07 | End | I'm glad they didn't rush it to meet their original deadline for it |
| 18:18.16 | End | which was something like early december |
| 18:18.23 | Legorol | and that's only the UI. on top of that, you have all the game bugs |
| 18:18.27 | End | yeah |
| 18:18.31 | Legorol | This is not Blizzard :( |
| 18:18.39 | Legorol | Blizzard has always been about: we don't release until it's ready |
| 18:18.48 | Legorol | They are now doing: release it on schedule, then release a fix |
| 18:18.55 | Legorol | :( disappointing |
| 18:19.09 | End | hmm |
| 18:19.30 | Legorol | The fiasco with the 10-minute debuff when afk-ing from a BG was a prime example |
| 18:19.41 | End | I looked at a list of all the versions, and it looks like they have always been doing this for WoW...it just has been getting worse |
| 18:19.57 | Legorol | Yes they ahve been doing it for WoW more or less, but it is getting worse I think |
| 18:20.16 | Legorol | There are known bugs, some I think serious, reported on test forums both in US and EU that go unadressed before patch is released |
| 18:20.45 | End | yeah, apparently the molten core banish bug was noticed during test |
| 18:21.00 | End | but wasn't fixed until after the patch was released on lived |
| 18:21.03 | End | er, live |
| 18:21.14 | Legorol | Or how about: lack of global cooldown on weapon switch |
| 18:21.27 | Legorol | they deliberately introduced a 1 sec/1.5 sec cooldown in patch 1.7 when you switch weapon in combat |
| 18:21.32 | Legorol | it's gone in 1.9 |
| 18:21.41 | Legorol | this was noticed and reported on the test forums both in US and EU |
| 18:21.47 | End | it's gone? o_O |
| 18:21.48 | Legorol | this has potential balance implications |
| 18:21.56 | End | not that I would notice, I rarely switch weapons |
| 18:22.41 | krka | yes, i got a blizzard ui error message today :/ |
| 18:23.07 | krka | if I reload my ui, I can't attack hillsbrad mobs |
| 18:23.10 | krka | very odd |
| 18:23.13 | End | o_O |
| 18:23.28 | krka | i submitted a technical request but they said it was some ui problem on my side |
| 18:24.59 | End | figures :-/ |
| 18:25.02 | Tain | Legorol: I agree there's potential problems, but playing a Rogue and Warrior I really didn't see almost any real-life significant impact after the 1.7 change. |
| 18:25.20 | Tain | Yes, there was a difference, but it didn't to me make as much of a difference on things as it seemed it would. |
| 18:25.46 | Tain | You end up missing one swing per swap in my experience. |
| 18:26.27 | Tain | Which is compounded if you're doing multiple swaps, such as a warrior switching weapons and form for one specific attack, and then switching back. |
| 18:26.32 | krka | the problem was abusing instant spells that did damage based on weapon damage |
| 18:26.41 | krka | afaik |
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| 18:27.49 | Tain | I guess I never saw that. I thought (perhaps incorrectly) it was just that they didn't like classes that could swap weapons quickly for a single attack and then swap back quickly. |
| 18:28.03 | Tain | But you didn't lose the instant damage attack, you only lost a normal attack swing. |
| 18:31.58 | krka | i am just retelling what I've heard, never played a warrior or rogue myself (passed level 10 or so that is) |
| 18:32.26 | Tain | Yeah there's very likely things I didn't know people were able to do. |
| 18:32.38 | Tain | I did play a Rogue to 60 and a Warrior to somewhere in the 20s |
| 18:33.07 | Tain | Ooh I wonder if they accidentally removed the crossbow cooldown for Rogues and Warriors again. |
| 18:33.10 | krka | i even had thoughts of making a proof of concept addon to swap weapons based on stats just before getting attacked |
| 18:33.15 | Tain | That was cool. |
| 18:33.26 | krka | equip defense and agility weapons right before attack |
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| 18:41.50 | Tem | it feels good to get off early |
| 18:44.39 | Shoury|maths | wow shadow fall's guild website is really nice |
| 18:45.24 | Tem | link? |
| 18:45.26 | Beladona | can you link it |
| 18:46.15 | shouryuu | http://www.thefilthyfew.org/modules.php?name=coppermine |
| 18:46.27 | shouryuu | well compared to my guild's |
| 18:47.17 | Tem | I see your guild website and raise you a better one |
| 18:47.18 | Tem | http://protectorate.project51.be/index.php?show=links&category=wow |
| 18:47.41 | Tem | er, http://protectorate.project51.be/index.php?show=news |
| 18:47.51 | Beladona | the second one is better... |
| 18:47.56 | Beladona | but still |
| 18:48.02 | shouryuu | not bad |
| 18:48.26 | Tem | yeah, I agree |
| 18:48.47 | Beladona | I like to integrate forum and website into a single package |
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| 18:49.14 | Iriel | Hm, I wonder if we'll see 1.9.1 tomorrow |
| 18:49.21 | Beladona | probably |
| 18:49.30 | kremonte | 1.9.1 for what? =x |
| 18:49.34 | Beladona | I know of several coding mistakes they need to propogate |
| 18:49.34 | krka | really? looks broken for me |
| 18:50.08 | krka | let me find my screenshot :) |
| 18:51.08 | krka | http://kristofer.no-ip.info:8080/tmp/screenshot22.png |
| 18:52.02 | Beladona | looks like alignment issues |
| 18:52.14 | krka | sloppy web design :) |
| 18:52.26 | Beladona | works fine here |
| 18:52.33 | Beladona | and I am on firefox as well |
| 18:52.39 | krka | try changing scale |
| 18:53.12 | Beladona | ahh ok |
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| 18:53.15 | Beladona | bad design |
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| 18:56.15 | shouryuu | soooo tired |
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| 18:56.44 | shouryuu | maths are bad for you |
| 18:56.49 | futrtrubl | could someone go to beb.edowner.net and tell me what they see? I'm having problems |
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| 18:57.47 | shouryuu | a blue screen |
| 18:57.49 | shouryuu | text |
| 18:58.01 | shouryuu | about BasicExperienceBar |
| 18:58.07 | shouryuu | seems normal to me |
| 18:58.15 | futrtrubl | huh, so it works for everyone but me |
| 18:58.22 | shouryuu | except that looking at that screen might make my eyes bleed |
| 18:58.39 | futrtrubl | don't worry, that's only a test page ;'] |
| 18:58.54 | shouryuu | =P |
| 19:00.17 | futrtrubl | firefox is refusing to updat to the new page |
| 19:01.30 | Maldivia | Iriel - where did you find the post, where slouken said ITEM_QAUALITY_COLOR would be fixed (for your 1.9.1 changes) ? |
| 19:02.54 | Maldivia | nevermind - found it |
| 19:04.29 | futrtrubl | what's the best wysiwyg web editor out there? |
| 19:05.23 | Maldivia | ouch... that's like asking what's best: vi or emacs |
| 19:05.47 | futrtrubl | what's the best WoW addon out there? ;'] |
| 19:05.56 | Maldivia | mine - ofcourse :) |
| 19:05.58 | futrtrubl | j/k |
| 19:06.09 | futrtrubl | which is yours again? |
| 19:06.26 | Maldivia | doubt you know them :) |
| 19:06.28 | krka | mine is the best! and so is my wifes |
| 19:07.07 | Maldivia | haven't really been out with the big announcements when I make addons - most myself and my guild that use them :) |
| 19:07.19 | futrtrubl | maybe I should get to know them Maldivia |
| 19:07.47 | krka | yeah, what kind of addons are they? |
| 19:07.49 | futrtrubl | krka, mines the best and everyone knows it. Your just embarasing yoiurself ;'] |
| 19:08.31 | krka | =( |
| 19:08.40 | Maldivia | futrtrubl: you can find my public mods here: http://forums.afterglow.net/viewforum.php?f=9 |
| 19:08.54 | futrtrubl | my god there were so many mistakes in my last line of text ;'] |
| 19:10.50 | futrtrubl | I love your sig Maldivia, Serenity and Firefly rules all |
| 19:10.56 | Maldivia | :) |
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| 19:13.59 | futrtrubl | May I steal some reputationmod code for when I allow BEB to be a reputation bar? |
| 19:14.36 | shouryuu | anyone here listen to Patrice |
| 19:14.40 | Maldivia | futrtrubl: sure - but just a sec, dont think I have uploaded the latest version |
| 19:15.00 | shouryuu | oh and second question, what does the CT in CT mode stand for? |
| 19:15.54 | End | Cide and Ts |
| 19:16.03 | Cide | End wins |
| 19:16.10 | End | :) |
| 19:16.13 | shouryuu | cool =P |
| 19:16.30 | Cide | it was a nice name, because our guild was at the time called Chaos Theory |
| 19:16.38 | shouryuu | lol |
| 19:16.48 | Cide | (which I didn't know when I suggested the highly creative name) |
| 19:17.30 | Maldivia | futrtrubl: there - updated for 1.9.0 now :) |
| 19:17.39 | futrtrubl | cool |
| 19:18.45 | Maldivia | actually, forgotten to upload the new version, so glad you mentioned it :) |
| 19:19.16 | shouryuu | man even lying in my bed is getting me tired... |
| 19:19.27 | Maldivia | what did you expect? |
| 19:20.02 | shouryuu | =P |
| 19:20.08 | shouryuu | I'm such a lazy kid... |
| 19:21.18 | futrtrubl | omg, macromedia website crashed firfox. that should do better than that ;'] |
| 19:21.50 | shouryuu | arghhhhhhh |
| 19:22.19 | shouryuu | I spent all day waiting for some asshole to connect and let me get the last .4% of my album and the file is corrupt =( |
| 19:22.22 | Maldivia | CT has some nice mods -- just not too fond of CT_RaidAssist :) |
| 19:24.15 | shouryuu | souuuu, souuuuuu souuuuulstorm eve ry where, eve ry where, eve ry where |
| 19:24.30 | shouryuu | i r gud singre |
| 19:25.58 | Maldivia | what... can't hear you... |
| 19:27.23 | shouryuu | which genius wrote IsBuffActive btw |
| 19:28.46 | Natasem | hey cide ya'll figure out what is causing the sputter lag with CT_Raid? |
| 19:29.19 | Cide | not really.. do you use CT_UnitFrames? |
| 19:29.42 | Natasem | i downloaded the newest version of CT_Raid last night and did a clean install of it |
| 19:30.51 | Natasem | should i grab CT_UnitFrames as well? |
| 19:31.56 | Cide | try disabling it and see if that fixes it.. assuming you have it |
| 19:31.59 | Maldivia | have profanity filter activated - apparently that's causing lag issues (from what I could tell from sloukens post) |
| 19:32.27 | krka | what's wrong with it shouryuu? |
| 19:32.42 | Cide | what post, Maldivia? |
| 19:33.00 | Maldivia | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=296977&p=1&tmp=1#post296977 |
| 19:33.12 | Maldivia | to quote: " Try disabling the profanity filter. If this fixes it, it's not a CTRA issue, and will be taken care of in the 1.9.1 update." |
| 19:33.15 | shouryuu | what's wrong with wow? It's too damn addictive |
| 19:35.28 | Natasem | na i never have profanity filter activated |
| 19:35.39 | Natasem | i like to hear the little 10 yrs olds cuz their brains out |
| 19:36.16 | Natasem | if i don't have CT_UnitFrames should i go get it then disable it (lol) |
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| 19:38.02 | Cide | do you have enough on to form a raid with 5+ people so you can test the lag? |
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| 19:45.49 | Natasem | not now,i am at work lol |
| 19:47.36 | Cide | okay |
| 19:48.15 | krka | yay, my first test of krkaButtons works perfectly |
| 19:56.11 | Natasem | lol WTF http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance,+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html?part=rss&tag=6022491&subj=news |
| 20:01.27 | Cide | anyone has an idea where php would be installed on linux? I have absolutely no idea myself |
| 20:02.36 | futrtrubl | sucks to be an American Natasem ;'] |
| 20:02.43 | Natasem | lol |
| 20:03.16 | futrtrubl | cide, cgi-bin or some such, but usually in the folder it should be seen at |
| 20:03.43 | Tain | So it depends on where the apache (or whatever webserver) install is. |
| 20:04.02 | futrtrubl | yup |
| 20:05.03 | Cide | I know where apache is... I need to modify php.ini via ssh on our webserver, but I have no idea where it is :P |
| 20:05.41 | Cide | usually I let the guy who coded our site do it, but he's not home so I get to do it myself |
| 20:06.12 | krka | which php |
| 20:06.12 | krka | /usr/bin/php |
| 20:08.23 | Iriel | Cide: Do locate php.ini |
| 20:08.29 | Iriel | Cide: That should tell you where it is |
| 20:08.41 | Beladona | shouldn't a phpinfo tell you? |
| 20:09.13 | Cide | maybe.. hold on |
| 20:10.27 | Cide | yep Beladona, you were right |
| 20:10.31 | Cide | thanks all of you |
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| 20:20.37 | Shouryuu | rwar |
| 20:29.23 | id` | rwar indeed |
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| 20:42.39 | *** mode/#WoWI-lounge [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 20:50.13 | Cairenn | hey Cide? |
| 20:50.16 | Cide | hey |
| 20:50.45 | Cairenn | zeeg was looking for you last night ... he catch you since you've logged in? |
| 20:50.53 | Cide | nope |
| 20:51.15 | Cairenn | okay, well, he's wanting to talk to you |
| 20:51.19 | Cide | okay, thanks |
| 20:51.22 | Cairenn | do I have your permission to give him your IM info? |
| 20:51.25 | Cide | go ahead |
| 20:51.29 | Cairenn | k |
| 20:51.47 | Cairenn | he's in channel, but not responding, so afk or something |
| 20:53.38 | Cide | ya, I noticed |
| 20:59.16 | id` | I'm not a titanpanel expert. On the contrary, i'm about to face it and try it out (my poor ram) but i need to make sure this is the correct version. |
| 20:59.17 | id` | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3928 |
| 21:01.13 | Cairenn | it isn't |
| 21:01.23 | Cairenn | get it from one of the other sites |
| 21:01.34 | id` | why wont they update it here then :| |
| 21:01.45 | Cairenn | if you find out, feel free to let me know |
| 21:01.48 | id` | okay |
| 21:02.14 | id` | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1442 |
| 21:02.15 | id` | there |
| 21:02.16 | id` | :p |
| 21:02.31 | id` | that was fast :X |
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| 21:07.17 | Tain | Depends on what you mean by right version. There's still many different versions of Titanpanel out there that have been modified by different people. |
| 21:07.36 | Tain | Some swear by certain versions. |
| 21:07.52 | Legorol | there is one version, picked up by Dsanai I think, which is kind of "official" |
| 21:08.27 | Legorol | maybe i am confusing names |
| 21:08.41 | Cairenn | for the record, the one from WoWI was working fine under 1.8, haven't checked it under 1.9 |
| 21:08.43 | Tain | There are some who only use the last version by the original author, claiming that people have only added excess resource usage. |
| 21:08.50 | Cairenn | Dsanai took over FlexBar |
| 21:08.59 | Tain | Of course I have no real idea, just what I see people complain about. |
| 21:09.13 | id` | Okay, ill try the wowi one first |
| 21:09.27 | AnduinLothar | Only problem using the branches is that i can't get any changes pushed into them unless i make my own branch |
| 21:09.45 | AnduinLothar | for instance the drop down menu hook is crap |
| 21:09.45 | Tain | Yep. |
| 21:10.03 | Tain | I really think it needs to be rewritten from the ground up. |
| 21:10.07 | id` | pray for AceBar, man :-) |
| 21:10.17 | AnduinLothar | and so is the option to not move the other frames |
| 21:10.36 | Legorol | the wow.net one id` linked is what i think most people consider as the official continuation |
| 21:10.46 | Tain | heh yeah well I told Titan what to do about tryign to move my frames. |
| 21:11.03 | AnduinLothar | The frames i hacked TitanMobile.lua and got working decently, but the menu hook i made MenuOnScreen to fix |
| 21:11.17 | id` | can i delete the "included addons" if i don't like them? |
| 21:11.19 | Legorol | Cairenn, you are right, i confused Dsanai with Adsertor |
| 21:11.26 | Legorol | who can keep track of all these author names, ey ;-) |
| 21:11.28 | Cairenn | *shock* |
| 21:11.29 | AnduinLothar | yes id, just delete the toc refrence |
| 21:11.33 | Tain | Dsani, isn't that bottled water? |
| 21:11.34 | id` | okay |
| 21:11.38 | Legorol | at least if they were "real" names |
| 21:11.53 | AnduinLothar | cair, ur usually right |
| 21:11.54 | id` | go cairenn go cairenn |
| 21:11.58 | Legorol | this whole nickname business with the advent of online persona is confusing me |
| 21:11.59 | id` | ;D |
| 21:12.10 | id` | says someone named legorol |
| 21:12.11 | id` | :P |
| 21:12.13 | Tain | Just be happy that Titanbar wasn't written by, "Stinkybutt" |
| 21:12.33 | AnduinLothar | that'd be easy to remeber |
| 21:12.35 | id` | "Stinkybutt is an ass" |
| 21:13.21 | AnduinLothar | anyone had issues with Wardrobe-AL not swapping carrot on a stick with mount auto-swap? |
| 21:13.43 | Legorol | why do i get a comment from a user to update my mod 4 days after i have uploaded the updated version? |
| 21:13.44 | Legorol | go figure |
| 21:14.29 | Tain | Because users are sometimes a little slow. |
| 21:14.45 | AnduinLothar | least the ones that say it doesn't work cause the toc is outdated are slightly better than that |
| 21:15.23 | Legorol | don't you love users? |
| 21:15.27 | Legorol | noone more creative than a user |
| 21:15.51 | AnduinLothar | makes u wonder what exactly they're Using |
| 21:16.24 | Tain | I suspect copius amounts of cough medicine. |
| 21:16.43 | AnduinLothar | sounds like my kinda fun |
| 21:23.27 | Cairenn | hmmmmmmm |
| 21:23.28 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=297406 |
| 21:23.53 | Iriel | Wasn't me 8-) |
| 21:24.03 | Cairenn | did you even apply? |
| 21:24.16 | Legorol | woot, Ahn'Qiraj war effort page is now live for Europe as well |
| 21:24.22 | Iriel | No 8-) Thus my certainty that it wasn't me 8-) |
| 21:24.25 | Legorol | bah, my server is 44th... and our Horde is doing nothing :( |
| 21:25.40 | futrtrubl | the announcement that they hired me is scheduled for later this week ;'] |
| 21:28.10 | Tain | I bet it's Saien. |
| 21:32.38 | AnduinLothar | they didn't even call me back |
| 21:36.22 | Iriel | pre or post an interview? |
| 21:36.33 | AnduinLothar | post application |
| 21:37.35 | AnduinLothar | no love |
| 21:48.48 | Shouryuu | anyone here seen goodnight and goodluck? |
| 21:49.11 | Cairenn | nope |
| 21:49.30 | Shouryuu | worth seeing |
| 21:49.34 | Shouryuu | but not that good |
| 21:51.29 | kremonte | hahahahaha |
| 21:51.32 | kremonte | i don't need to use cedega |
| 21:51.56 | kremonte | mouse moves from 1 screen to another, and keyboard works on both pcs :D |
| 21:52.12 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/ |
| 21:52.14 | id` | 1.9 updated |
| 21:52.15 | Shouryuu | you use two screens? |
| 21:52.26 | kremonte | Shouryuu: 3, now :-) |
| 21:52.31 | kremonte | i have 2 monitors on my pc, running linux |
| 21:52.38 | kremonte | and i configured samba+synergy |
| 21:52.42 | kremonte | so my laptop acts like a third monitor |
| 21:52.49 | kremonte | omg this is so great XD |
| 21:53.43 | AnduinLothar | ya i use synergy on my 3 compies here |
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| 21:54.06 | kremonte | this is great |
| 21:54.23 | kremonte | haha, i should get a 3 monitor size desktop and crop it per each |
| 21:54.26 | Shouryuu | hahha nice |
| 21:55.59 | kremonte | grr, my mouse is all screwy in WoW |
| 21:56.07 | kremonte | when i'm holding it down it goes crazy |
| 21:56.28 | AnduinLothar | holy bajesus... titan calls buttonTextFunction every bazzilionth of a second |
| 21:56.43 | Shouryuu | bazzilionth? |
| 21:56.46 | Eraphine|Disco | onupdate? |
| 21:57.34 | AnduinLothar | not sure but if i turn on wardrobe debug it goes down to .5 fps cause it's checking your entire inventory every time it's called |
| 21:58.04 | AnduinLothar | ah, frequency is set to .5 |
| 21:58.21 | AnduinLothar | nemes... trying to kill people |
| 21:58.34 | AnduinLothar | bout gave me a heart attack |
| 21:58.47 | Shouryuu | what did he do |
| 21:59.06 | AnduinLothar | it's his titan code, he set it to update twice a second |
| 21:59.31 | AnduinLothar | scanning the bags multiple times |
| 22:00.14 | Tain | I was just lookign through the Titan code. |
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| 22:00.23 | Tain | It both hurts and confuses me. |
| 22:01.37 | Shouryuu | Ok am I the only one who believes that getting firebloom/purple lotus and peacebloom is about 10 000 times easier than getting artha's tears/strangle kelp and purple lotus? For the AQ quest |
| 22:01.42 | AnduinLothar | you get better fps by disabling the fps display on titan.. |
| 22:02.21 | Tain | That could be what you call irony. |
| 22:02.48 | [MoonWolf] | AnduinLothar, but how much better ? |
| 22:03.29 | AnduinLothar | dunno, it fluctuates too much to tell |
| 22:03.35 | AnduinLothar | about 1 maybe |
| 22:07.20 | AnduinLothar | lol no wonder... titan templates make an onupdate for each of the buttons |
| 22:07.40 | AnduinLothar | and has a counter in each button to count to the frequency |
| 22:07.50 | krka | ouchie |
| 22:08.03 | AnduinLothar | that would be so much better using chronos or timex and only one counter.. |
| 22:08.09 | krka | that's why I only use addons written or inspected by me personally :) |
| 22:08.14 | AnduinLothar | but still, it's not event driven |
| 22:08.19 | Shouryuu | When you Mind Vision someone, are you coordinates your current body's coord, ore the mind visioned mob's coord? |
| 22:08.34 | krka | probably your own body |
| 22:08.40 | krka | since it's map coordinates |
| 22:08.51 | Shouryuu | well the minimap changes with you |
| 22:09.03 | krka | well, what coordinates are you talking about? |
| 22:09.12 | Shouryuu | X,Y I'm guessing |
| 22:09.33 | krka | no, what coordinates? actual position, map position, minimap position? |
| 22:10.00 | Shouryuu | map position I'm guessing |
| 22:10.25 | Shouryuu | I was just wondering if you could get the X,Y of the ennemy flag carrier with Mind Vision |
| 22:10.30 | Shouryuu | in WSG |
| 22:10.46 | AnduinLothar | ... it uses TitanUtils_GetButtonID in Every onupdate for every button... which does at least one concatonation |
| 22:10.54 | krka | don't think it would affect your map position |
| 22:11.18 | Shouryuu | yeah you're probably right |
| 22:12.53 | AnduinLothar | i really shouldn't be lookign at titan's code... it'll make me want to rewrite it |
| 22:13.03 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 22:13.59 | AnduinLothar | and btw, whoever decided to have a bottom bar was a moron |
| 22:14.08 | AnduinLothar | worst idea ever |
| 22:14.28 | Tain | Maybe, but a lot of people asked for it. |
| 22:14.35 | AnduinLothar | dumb |
| 22:14.47 | Shouryuu | vhy? |
| 22:14.55 | sharkhat | LOOOOOTHAAAAAR, of the HIIIIIIILLLL people... |
| 22:15.30 | Tain | haha sharkhat |
| 22:15.42 | Tain | NOONE has gotten that |
| 22:15.46 | sharkhat | haha |
| 22:15.49 | Shouryuu | that made no sens to me |
| 22:15.50 | Shouryuu | yup |
| 22:15.50 | sharkhat | it is kinda old now.. |
| 22:15.59 | Tain | Yeah but still! |
| 22:16.01 | sharkhat | mike meyers budding days... |
| 22:16.12 | Tain | I figured a whole server named Lothar someone would get it. |
| 22:16.27 | sharkhat | Greetings for I am Lothar, of the Hill people, and I too walk with a woman... |
| 22:16.38 | sharkhat | haha |
| 22:22.50 | krka | i got it! |
| 22:23.30 | sharkhat | lol |
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| 22:28.07 | Legorol | where is that ItemRef tooltip? |
| 22:29.39 | [MoonWolf] | in the newest mendeleev tooltip ? |
| 22:29.44 | [MoonWolf] | version i mean |
| 22:33.58 | krka | what do warlock pets use for mana? |
| 22:34.06 | krka | focus? mana? energy? |
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| 22:34.23 | [MoonWolf] | mana |
| 22:34.27 | Guillotine | health |
| 22:34.40 | Guillotine | I mean, hi |
| 22:35.06 | Shouryuu | dumb question |
| 22:35.19 | Shouryuu | what's the quickest way to check if someone is online via code? |
| 22:36.21 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Guillotine_ (n=Guilloti@ns.motek-services.com) |
| 22:36.45 | Guillotine | Shouryuu: can it be someone on the other faction? |
| 22:36.54 | Guillotine | or just on your faction? |
| 22:37.05 | Shouryuu | my faction |
| 22:37.16 | Guillotine | add them to your friends list, check if their oline, remove them |
| 22:37.25 | Shouryuu | I said via code =P |
| 22:37.36 | Guillotine | actually, easiest way is to whisper them or invite them, but that's invasive |
| 22:37.50 | Guillotine | ya. do that via code |
| 22:37.50 | Shouryuu | true |
| 22:37.55 | Shouryuu | dang |
| 22:38.03 | Guillotine | theres no other non-invasive way |
| 22:38.07 | Shouryuu | wouldn't just /who name be better? |
| 22:38.21 | Guillotine | maybe, but then you have a problem if their name is part of another person's name |
| 22:38.37 | Shouryuu | true dat |
| 22:38.55 | Shouryuu | I'm an idiot I think |
| 22:39.06 | Guillotine | you're setting yourself up for something there... |
| 22:39.10 | Shouryuu | I need to check for guildmembers |
| 22:39.14 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 22:39.19 | Guillotine | ... |
| 22:39.23 | Guillotine | check the guild tab maybe? |
| 22:39.51 | Shouryuu | name, rank, rankIndex, level, class, zone, group, note, officernote, online = GetGuildRosterInfo(index); |
| 22:39.59 | Shouryuu | and get the online 0_o |
| 22:40.01 | Shouryuu | I feel dumb |
| 22:40.17 | Guillotine | ya |
| 22:40.22 | Guillotine | I can see why :P |
| 22:40.27 | Guillotine | its ok. we all have stupid days |
| 22:40.34 | Guillotine | purl, stupidity? |
| 22:40.36 | purl | Never underestimate the power of stupidity in large groups. Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. <BluefoxIcy> Every PC here has a burner |
| 22:40.45 | Shouryuu | too bad mine are never ending |
| 22:40.50 | Guillotine | haha |
| 22:41.53 | cladhair1 | s/a/e |
| 22:42.03 | cladhair1 | damn.. i thought i could trick her |
| 22:44.30 | krka | can't you just do a /who and then verify that the returned results is an exact match? |
| 22:46.54 | Shouryuu | yeah Iguess so |
| 22:46.57 | Shouryuu | Wow! |
| 22:46.58 | clad|shower | and oddly enough, my laptop is in the bedroom with me |
| 22:47.03 | Shouryuu | she can nod from here shower! |
| 22:47.08 | Shouryuu | *her |
| 22:47.10 | clad|shower | krka: but then you have to wait for the /who event to return from the server |
| 22:47.17 | clad|shower | Shouryuu: He |
| 22:47.20 | Shouryuu | and is clad a she? |
| 22:47.22 | Shouryuu | exactly |
| 22:47.36 | clad|shower | why would i be a she? |
| 22:47.45 | Guillotine | b/c Cladhaire is a girl name |
| 22:47.48 | Guillotine | :) |
| 22:47.50 | clad|shower | umm |
| 22:47.53 | clad|shower | Cladhaire is irish for rogue. |
| 22:47.55 | Guillotine | lol. j/k |
| 22:47.55 | [MoonWolf] | this is the internet |
| 22:47.57 | clad|shower | == not a girls name |
| 22:48.01 | Cairenn | Iriel is a female name, too |
| 22:48.01 | [MoonWolf] | name means nothing. |
| 22:48.01 | Shouryuu | consider me dislexike |
| 22:48.11 | Shouryuu | But I read Claire |
| 22:48.13 | Shouryuu | more or less |
| 22:48.13 | clad|shower | i'm a rouge |
| 22:48.15 | [MoonWolf] | Beladonna sounds very girly too. |
| 22:48.21 | Shouryuu | agreed |
| 22:48.21 | Cairenn | yup |
| 22:48.22 | Guillotine | yup |
| 22:48.24 | Shouryuu | it's the bella |
| 22:48.26 | Guillotine | I actually thought Iriel was a girl... |
| 22:48.27 | Shouryuu | *bela |
| 22:48.28 | Guillotine | b/c of the toon |
| 22:48.31 | Shouryuu | same |
| 22:48.33 | clad|shower | lol |
| 22:48.34 | Cairenn | but there's only one RL female in the channel ... |
| 22:48.41 | Guillotine | and its not you |
| 22:48.43 | AnduinLothar | there's friendsfacts code to catch /whos and siphon data |
| 22:48.44 | [MoonWolf] | hahaah |
| 22:48.44 | Shouryuu | hahah |
| 22:48.45 | Guillotine | :P |
| 22:48.49 | clad|shower | there are two at the moment imo |
| 22:48.51 | Guillotine | there was one other |
| 22:49.08 | Guillotine | I don't remember who, but there was one other person in here that was a r/l female... |
| 22:49.18 | Shouryuu | a r/l female... |
| 22:49.22 | Shouryuu | those thing exists? |
| 22:49.54 | Shouryuu | wow, weird post https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=297473&p=1&tmp=1#post297473 |
| 22:50.21 | Guillotine | ./script UnitSex(everyone); |
| 22:50.48 | Guillotine | thats really wierd... |
| 22:50.50 | Guillotine | and who is skurel? |
| 22:50.56 | Shouryuu | no idea |
| 22:51.00 | [MoonWolf] | Cairenn, how is populatiry of an addon caculated on wowi ? |
| 22:51.03 | Guillotine | isn't that the euro UI&Macros person? |
| 22:51.12 | Shouryuu | on how cool the author is |
| 22:51.24 | Shouryuu | guil - no idea |
| 22:51.48 | Shouryuu | hijack it with me |
| 22:53.42 | Guillotine | WOW!! an official answer to the model-changing question. http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-en&t=26969&p=1&tmp=1#post26969 |
| 22:53.46 | Guillotine | too bad its SUPER vague |
| 22:53.51 | Guillotine | and he doesn't clearly say yes or no |
| 22:55.15 | Shouryuu | ok that guy has mastered the art of not taking position |
| 22:55.19 | kremonte | wow |
| 22:55.23 | kremonte | my mind just went like |
| 22:55.33 | kremonte | "yes" "no" "yes" "no" "haha you suck" "no you suck" "boo" "yay" |
| 22:55.38 | Cairenn | it's been stated over and over that it *can* be abused |
| 22:55.57 | kremonte | the illegalize guns in everywhere!!!! |
| 22:56.00 | Guillotine | right. but he answers the question, but does not clearly say wether it was illegal or not |
| 22:56.09 | Shouryuu | maybe they aren't going to do anything until it is abused |
| 22:56.24 | Shouryuu | IMO they are just going to wait and see |
| 22:56.49 | Shouryuu | no need to prevent honest players from having fun and changing the weapons model |
| 22:57.11 | Guillotine | interesting... on WoW euro, they actually call it a Christmas contest rather than a Holiday contest |
| 22:57.14 | Shouryuu | and no need to strictly enforce a rule that would bother a *handful* of players of abuse of it |
| 22:57.23 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 22:57.44 | kremonte | that was kinda what i was getting at with the guns comment |
| 22:58.06 | kremonte | like, guns can be abused but that doesn't mean they are illegal..only for the people that misuse them :) |
| 22:58.26 | Shouryuu | =P |
| 22:59.12 | Shouryuu | you put it so much more elloquently... |
| 22:59.22 | kremonte | eloquent is a strong word |
| 22:59.41 | Guillotine | so is stupid |
| 22:59.42 | Guillotine | stupid |
| 22:59.43 | Shouryuu | especialy with two l |
| 22:59.53 | kremonte | yes, Shouryuu |
| 22:59.55 | kremonte | Guillotine: stupid! |
| 23:00.05 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:01.21 | Shouryuu | is posting in all caps an actual forum offense? |
| 23:01.22 | AnduinLothar | lol, these guy in my guild are all comparing days played... |
| 23:01.27 | AnduinLothar | i'm jsut laughing... |
| 23:01.43 | AnduinLothar | then i post mine... 76d 2h 23m |
| 23:02.25 | Guillotine | what were theres? |
| 23:02.25 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:02.33 | kremonte | Shouryuu: I DO NOT KNOW MAYBE TRY AND SEE WHAT THEY SAY I MEAN IT CANT BE THAT BAD CAN IT LOL BUT REALLY POST AND SEE IF THEY GET ANGRY OR SOMETHING IF YOU POST IN ALL CAPS IM NOT SURE YOUR GUESS GO AHEAD AND TRY AND TELL ME AND EVERYONE IF IT IS OR NOT |
| 23:02.33 | Guillotine | their's* |
| 23:02.36 | AnduinLothar | 3...4...10... |
| 23:02.42 | Guillotine | haha kremonte |
| 23:02.45 | AnduinLothar | a few 20s |
| 23:02.45 | kremonte | 3 days played? wtf? |
| 23:02.48 | kremonte | oh |
| 23:03.03 | AnduinLothar | newb guild... i'm leaving |
| 23:03.44 | Shouryuu | wow |
| 23:03.45 | Shouryuu | that's... sad =( |
| 23:03.49 | Shouryuu | *theirs? |
| 23:03.54 | kremonte | Cairenn: what? :( |
| 23:03.56 | kremonte | that hurts |
| 23:04.02 | Cairenn | the all caps thing :p |
| 23:04.23 | Shouryuu | lol krem |
| 23:04.31 | kremonte | Cairenn: WHAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH USING ALL CAPS? IM NOT EVEN USING CAPS LOCK, BECAUSE SHIFT OWNS LIKE OWNSAUCE> |
| 23:04.40 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:04.48 | Maldivia | Guillotine: a problem with the model-swappings is that, if they clearly say no, they have to implement a way to prevent it :) |
| 23:04.51 | Cairenn | you just want me to slap you around some more ;) |
| 23:04.59 | kremonte | no thx cair |
| 23:05.04 | kremonte | my face hurts |
| 23:05.10 | Guillotine | Maldivia: not really. they've said no to a couple things before impelmenting a way to prevent it |
| 23:05.19 | Shouryuu | no but seriously |
| 23:05.20 | Shouryuu | can I report someone for opsting in all caps? |
| 23:05.21 | kremonte | well, time to unplujg my keyboard |
| 23:05.33 | kremonte | Shouryuu: I DONT KNOW TRY IT AND FIND IT HAHAHAHA BUT I DONT REALLY THINK SO |
| 23:05.44 | Shouryuu | fine |
| 23:05.50 | Shouryuu | I'll read the forum guid lines |
| 23:06.40 | Maldivia | Guillotine: yeah - but in most situations they've changed the game to prevent those things |
| 23:06.54 | kremonte | it's simple |
| 23:07.03 | kremonte | restrict it so it doesn't load custom m2's and textures |
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| 23:07.12 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 23:07.43 | Maldivia | kremonte: well, people would be smart enough to put them in patch2.mpq then, most likely |
| 23:08.07 | kremonte | Maldivia: which is already a direct violation of the TOS, and is risky |
| 23:08.12 | kremonte | as per corrupting your data |
| 23:08.19 | kremonte | gah, 300 q |
| 23:08.21 | Guillotine | they could do something with the mpqs like they do with WoW.exe that makes it EXTREMELY hard to modify and still load |
| 23:08.34 | Maldivia | not if they patch2.mpw file doesn't exist when they do - since it's only there after minor patches :) |
| 23:08.36 | kremonte | yup. not to mention the patch mpqs are huge so 1 switch would take an hour =/ |
| 23:08.51 | kremonte | Maldivia: it's still a pain in the ass |
| 23:09.14 | Maldivia | kremonte: how so... making a mpq files takes 2 seconds.. |
| 23:09.15 | kremonte | but again, that's already a tos violation |
| 23:09.31 | Maldivia | I'm not talking about altering a mpq file - I'm talking about making a second one |
| 23:09.33 | kremonte | Maldivia: then it wouldn't work most of the time :) only right after each major release |
| 23:09.49 | kremonte | and regardless, people can do that already |
| 23:09.53 | Depherios | people patched the hell out of Starcraft (including myself) with the camsys utilities |
| 23:10.00 | kremonte | Depherios: camsys? O_o |
| 23:10.07 | Depherios | Camelot Systems |
| 23:10.15 | kremonte | i dont even know what that is =( |
| 23:10.28 | Depherios | used to be at www.camsys.org... but blizzard shut them down...... by HIRING their two best developers |
| 23:10.45 | kremonte | rofl |
| 23:10.53 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 23:11.13 | Depherios | they hacked starcraft to the point where you could patch any MPQ data and use GUIs to modify game information like cooldowns, graphics, you could do a complete rework with their tools |
| 23:11.22 | Depherios | one guy was making a star wars RTS using starcraft |
| 23:11.38 | Maldivia | kremonte: unless the client just checks for the existens patch-%d.mpq, in order ? |
| 23:11.45 | Shouryuu | well g'niight people |
| 23:11.49 | kremonte | Maldivia: you're really missing the point |
| 23:11.52 | AnduinLothar | wow, someone just finished a quest that triggered a wall of text in sithilus cenariun hold, story line about a war between the Quiraji and the night elves |
| 23:11.54 | kremonte | that's not near specific to models |
| 23:12.30 | Maldivia | well, I know what you're saying... I'm just pointing out, that it can be curcumventet, without modifiying files |
| 23:12.33 | kremonte | Maldivia: it's like frameXML , for example. it's being restricted off, but people can still use the MPQs |
| 23:12.46 | kremonte | Maldivia: make that against the TOS too then, simple |
| 23:13.09 | Maldivia | yeah - that's the only way |
| 23:13.31 | AnduinLothar | people have been editing mq's since diablo2 |
| 23:13.43 | AnduinLothar | mqp* |
| 23:13.44 | kremonte | d2 makes me sad |
| 23:13.46 | AnduinLothar | mpq |
| 23:13.49 | kremonte | lol |
| 23:14.04 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 23:14.05 | Depherios | feh anduin, I edited mpqs with Starcraft XD |
| 23:14.19 | Depherios | and D1 |
| 23:14.30 | krka | i edited .war in warcraft! |
| 23:14.39 | Depherios | XD |
| 23:14.41 | krka | but after that, it wouldn't start anymore :( |
| 23:14.45 | Depherios | lol |
| 23:15.20 | AnduinLothar | D1 didn't use mpq's afaik |
| 23:15.38 | [MoonWolf] | AnduinLothar, correct |
| 23:15.40 | id` | does KCI get faster over time |
| 23:15.42 | Depherios | no... |
| 23:15.44 | id` | or is it just fast |
| 23:15.44 | id` | ? |
| 23:15.48 | [MoonWolf] | to mo d1 you would mostly edit the d1 exes |
| 23:15.49 | Depherios | it used them |
| 23:16.02 | Depherios | no wait |
| 23:16.04 | Depherios | ..... |
| 23:16.10 | Depherios | it used somethind different... you're right |
| 23:16.14 | Depherios | but very similar |
| 23:16.26 | AnduinLothar | no, not really similar at all |
| 23:16.40 | AnduinLothar | u had to hex edit the exe |
| 23:16.47 | [MoonWolf] | like i said. |
| 23:16.51 | Depherios | no... it had data stores... I know I edited sound |
| 23:16.53 | kremonte | like moonwolf said |
| 23:18.31 | Depherios | it might also be though, that I edited that third party expansion... the one where you got the Monk XD |
| 23:18.57 | [MoonWolf] | Hellfire |
| 23:19.02 | Depherios | yes ^_^ |
| 23:19.14 | Guillotine | dang. my new avatar for WoWI is just too big to upload... |
| 23:19.17 | Guillotine | by 18kb |
| 23:19.34 | [MoonWolf] | Guillotine, use some image editing program to reduce teh colours in it. |
| 23:19.46 | Guillotine | by half? |
| 23:19.51 | Guillotine | it won't look good |
| 23:20.06 | Depherios | it will if you're careful ^_^ |
| 23:20.13 | Depherios | unless it's one big gradient >_< |
| 23:20.22 | Guillotine | I have an idea... maybe I'll use this image to replace the image in one of the addons that don't need an image. then I'll just link to that |
| 23:20.34 | [MoonWolf] | lol |
| 23:20.37 | Depherios | lol |
| 23:21.17 | Guillotine | its so awesome though: http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/642/avatar0bc.gif |
| 23:21.24 | kremonte | Guillotine: photoshop? |
| 23:21.29 | kremonte | you can manually edit the palette |
| 23:21.35 | Guillotine | don't have photoshop |
| 23:21.38 | Guillotine | too expensive :/ |
| 23:21.38 | kremonte | oh, boo |
| 23:21.49 | kremonte | i have a legal version of photoshop too, one of the few |
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| 23:22.06 | kremonte | hey bela |
| 23:22.19 | Beladona | alo |
| 23:22.53 | kremonte | i don't even need cedega =D |
| 23:23.22 | Guillotine | hey bela... I have an avatar for WoWI but its just a bit too big to upload (its 37.4 kb). Do you have any suggestions of how to get it up? Should I just replace one of the filler images in one of my addons with it? |
| 23:26.02 | Beladona | too big to upload? |
| 23:26.51 | AnduinLothar | they fixed my DeathGrips bug :) |
| 23:27.18 | Beladona | well either find a way to shrink it or, not sure what to tell ya |
| 23:27.33 | AnduinLothar | you can now equip them while mounted and you don't get the "Cannot do that while mounted" error |
| 23:30.31 | Beladona | getting food, then playing |
| 23:30.36 | Beladona | anyone up for some draka? |
| 23:30.44 | AnduinLothar | what lvl? |
| 23:32.08 | id` | nn |
| 23:32.24 | AnduinLothar | oo, and they added EquipCursorItem |
| 23:35.15 | Beladona | sorry, my char is 29 |
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