irclog2html for #wowi-lounge on 20060117

00:02.03Ktronwhat category on WoWI do you think I'd find an addon like loadit? (an addon that lets me turn on/off other addons in game)... Trying to find one with a working gui
00:03.35GuillotineI use the one from cosmos
00:03.39Guillotineonly thing I still use from cosmos
00:04.07clad|afk./ace disable addonName /ace enable AddONName =)
00:04.31Ktroncladhaire, that has no gui
00:05.28MentalPowerloadit works fine for me
00:06.04Ktronin 1.9 the gui bit doesn't load a list of addons for me anymore
00:06.18Ktronheh, I really like being able to use checkboxes over text commands
00:06.43Ktronthe loadit text commands work fine
00:06.50cladhaire*shrug*
00:06.54cladhaireGUI's are amateurish
00:07.00cladhaire~emulate saien
00:07.02purlSlash commands are ameturish.
00:07.06cladhaireI WIN
00:07.33Ktronthere are times were gui's aren't appropriate
00:07.49Ktronfor finding and turning on one addon in a list of like 30, a gui imo is
00:07.59cladhairethats personal preference
00:08.06cladhairei know every name of ever of the 30 addons i use
00:08.15cladhairebut thats just me
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00:27.02Depheriosooooh
00:27.07Depheriosdown to 77 actually
00:35.33cladhairehehe
00:43.54Depherios75 now
00:43.58Depherios^_^
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01:04.48Fanookhey Bela, what tool do you use for your WDN diffs?
01:05.17BeladonaI use Araxis Merge for the reports, with a custom teplate that I created
01:05.22Beladonatemplate
01:05.51Beladonaand then I run some find/replace scripts on some of the data
01:08.54cladhairehttp://www.markus-inger.de/wow/drathals_hud.html  REALLY nice.. but i need to clean up lots of things before i'll use it.
01:08.59cladhairejust look at the onUpdate =)
01:09.38Depheriosme <3s bubbly bars XD
01:09.51Beladonanice
01:10.06Depheriosthinking of doing that effect myself for my own... but I dislike repetitive patterns... so I'd have to do seperate ones... and...... yeah D:
01:10.26Beladonaits a nice look
01:10.53cladhaireits really well done.. the bars are animated for loss ...
01:10.56cladhairejust very nice overall
01:11.03cladhairethe layout is exactly what wanted =)
01:11.18cladhairethe bubbles are only at the bottom
01:11.19cladhaire=)
01:11.34Beladonahe has clean textures
01:11.48Beladonaits the way I like to do my stuff
01:13.08Depherioswild hare... hair? -- whatever
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01:40.14Te1sucky internet for the win
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01:49.03Natasemis anyone updateing PvPLog
01:49.14Natasemi can't find a "wokring" version of it
01:49.34GenNMXWhat does PVPLog do?
01:49.59Gryphenwww.wowprofilers.com
01:50.40Tem[Flask of Supreme Girl Power]
01:50.48Maldiviaheheh
01:53.51Natasemthanks http://www.wowprofilers.com/viewtopic.php?t=1859
01:54.29Gryphencurrent 0.4.7f works for me
01:56.20cladhaireZOMG Syracuse versus UConn at 9:00pm
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02:19.10NatasemGryphen: i thought it wasn't logging wins
02:28.28Natasemnight ya'll
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02:30.14Cairennwb Iriel
02:30.58Guillotine... is anyone else having problems logging into the game?
02:36.02OsagasuYes
02:36.19OsagasuQuite a few realms are dead
02:36.54Guillotineahhh. mine is not dead. just a 2 hour que >_<
02:37.02Guillotinewhat has happened to my beloved low-population server?
02:37.31IrielIt's been sleeping around with thousands of other people
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02:51.44TainTime to play server roulette and tryto find one to log in to to test.
03:00.59somethingleselet's see if ET is on
03:01.20somethingleseseems to be, with a short queue of 120
03:02.27Corrodiasfor all its reputation as an unstable server, lately it sure seems to be doing pretty well
03:08.45MaldiviaTain: ohh, you have chars on 20 different reals aswell ? :)
03:12.26TainMost of them are level 1, Maldivia  :)
03:12.42MaldiviaUhh... Ihave level 2 on some of them!
03:31.23clad|basketballnight all
03:31.29Cairennnight clad|sleep
03:43.36Guillotinethe channel topic is seriously wierd...
03:43.52Guillotinelike, even for kael
03:45.58*** topic/#WoWI-lounge by Cairenn -> Yay for weird channel topics
03:55.19Guillotinelol
04:08.03MaldiviaI really hope they fix the damn fake item links... it's really annoying to see Giantstalker's Helmet of the Falcon linked over and over again
04:08.44GenNMXYeah, LootLink would save that as a "real link"
04:08.51GenNMXNot sure about KCI
04:09.01Maldiviaevery item-database mod would
04:09.33GenNMXKCI might not, since it only saves links, and prunes invalid links
04:09.57Maldiviait's not an invalid link
04:09.59Maldiviathat's the problem
04:10.16GenNMXInvalid links = links not valid on your server
04:10.21Maldiviaand there's no way of knowing it's fake, from a coding POV
04:11.00Maldiviawell, unless you have a complete database of all item-id's that can have a suffix, and what those suffixes are
04:11.05GenNMXOuch, didn't know it went that far
04:11.27Maldiviaand as far as I know... only Blizzard has such a database..
04:11.31GenNMXMaldivia: You'd have to talk to Kaelten. All I know about KCI is that you can import databases which contain items that aren't on your server yet, and those items are removed when you prune
04:11.47GenNMXSo he manages to do it somehow...
04:12.19MaldiviaGenNMX: well, that can't be done either - since there's NO way for the client to know which items has been seen on the server, beside a trial-and-error approach (ie, link them... disconnect = not loaded)
04:13.46GenNMXWell, I'd have to double-check the code to give an informed answer to that.
04:13.52Maldiviatrust me :)
04:14.03Maldiviawell, you can check the local cache... but that's all it is... a cache
04:14.46GenNMXMaldivia: No offense, but I like to remain skeptical until I find out for myself, or am told otherwise by someone I know ;)
04:15.13MaldiviaWell, I've made and maintained an item-database mod since March 2005...
04:15.19IrielMaldivia is correct
04:16.30TainKaelten uses the Force.
04:17.08Cairennin Soviet Russia, the Force uses Kaelten
04:17.32GenNMX"LinkView will NEVER disconnect you for browsing the linkview pane. To do this I just don't show invalid items. You can see how many items are not being shown in LinkView by looking at the two numbers in the LinkView pane's header."
04:18.03GenNMXI'll ask how he determines an item link is "invalid".
04:18.23IrielI'd imagine he's keeping track of which items have been seen that play session
04:18.40Irielwhich is the other way of doing it, but a much smaller list than the item cache
04:18.54IrielBut the filtering criteria is far stricter than "valid on server" in that case
04:19.11MaldiviaGenNMX: the keyword here is "Browsing" - all items in your local cahce can be shown in a tooltip, without asking the server
04:19.24Maldiviabut as soon as you try to link it, it has to be verified by the server
04:20.22AnduinLotharya.. i dont remmeber going to be... and i wake up and it's 8pm..
04:20.28AnduinLotharbed*
04:21.28GenNMXMaldivia: And the new linking bugs allow people to circumvent proper verification?
04:21.44Maldiviaold bug... been there always
04:21.51Maldiviapeople just started to realise it now
04:21.55GenNMXAhh
04:22.53GenNMXWell, then, I retract my earlier statements.
04:22.54MaldiviaBlizzard doesn't check at their end, if the item can actually have a suffix or the one specified
04:23.14Maldiviaso basically, you can put any suffix on any item
04:24.14GenNMXYeah, so I heard.
04:24.41Maldiviaalso, you can write the item-name in any locale you like :)
04:25.09Maldiviabut that'll most likely always be there :)
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04:59.32Corrodiaslately, lootlink added a "generated from cache" tag in tooltips so you can see if it's safe to link or not
05:00.44GenNMXGood idea
05:28.11MaldiviaStill, there's no way of knowing if it's safe to link or not, without actually linking it
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05:38.15Guillotinehey guys. its depressing seeing all the views of my weekly column on WoWGuru being my own... so if you have the time, check out http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11536 and plz comment on it ;)
05:38.46Guillotineat least say something. even if its 'you suck'
05:38.48Guillotine:D
05:38.50Guillotinelol
05:38.53TainAw, you should post it on a site that people would go to.
05:38.57Guillotinehaha
05:39.25Guillotinethe community at wowguru is kind of lacking... i don't know why though. its a great site
05:40.22Guillotineanyway, g2g guys. ttyl
05:51.42Depheriosis there a way to REMOVE a texture from a frame?
05:52.21IrielDepherios : no, but you can just hide the texture
05:54.20Depherios... howso?
05:54.35IrielTextureName:Hide()
05:54.43Depheriosthat hides the whole frame
05:54.55IrielIt shouldn't.
05:55.07Depherioshave the left and right sides gone
05:55.09IrielIs it a backdrop? or a texture?
05:55.20Depheriostexture according to the XML
05:55.24IrielTry doing TextureName:SetAlpha(0) ?
05:55.48Depherioshides the whole editbox
05:56.11IrielWhat frame name are you using?
05:56.16IrielI mean, what texture name?
05:56.31DepheriosChatFrameEditBox the ChatFrameEditBoxLeft and Right are named... but the other background just goes like this
05:56.32Depherios<Texture file="Interface\ChatFrame\UI-ChatInputBorder-Right">
05:56.32Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.32Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.33Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.35Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.37Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.39Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.41Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.43Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.45Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.47Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:56.52Depherioswoah sorry copied too much
05:56.59IrielYou can't remove that one without editing the FrameXML code
05:57.01Depherios<PROTECTED>
05:57.15IrielYou need to ask slouken to give it a name
05:57.31DepheriosI'll do that...
05:58.52IrielYou could just swap out the whole edit box
06:02.19DepheriosI'm betting that's how confab does it... I'll just change the texture to be a blank transparent image
06:05.16Depheriosyah, they just replace
06:13.54GenNMXGrrr, does anyone use BugSack?
06:14.10Depherioshaven't even heard of it, is it neat? XD
06:14.58GenNMXYeah, it consolidates multiple WoW UI error messages into one frame, and has the ability to surpress them automatically, just giving an error sound
06:15.12Depheriosso it's IEF?
06:15.22TainI use BugSack
06:15.25GenNMXIEF?
06:15.33DepheriosImproved Error Frame
06:15.33TainAn improved improved error frame. ;)
06:15.58Depheriosahh... I shall look into it *googles it right now*
06:15.59GenNMXAh
06:16.15GenNMXWell don't bother Depherios, its download page is down right now
06:16.25GenNMXBut then I remembered I never delete my addon downloads
06:16.40Depherioslol, I don't either, one huge folder
06:16.45GenNMXI'd throw it up on my widdle website for Rowne, but I don't know how he'd feel about it
06:17.04TainI only keep current versions, unless its things I'm working on.  Then I have about every history version on hand.
06:17.10Depheriosit's in some compilations
06:17.16Depherioslol
06:17.17TainBugSack is in trac cvs
06:17.38GenNMXOh yeah...the link Rowne gave was some server in the Netherlands I think
06:18.10TainHis own server which is up an ddown.  We're going to get everything off of there as soon as we can.
06:18.19AnduinLotharhow is bugsack better than ief?
06:18.38Tainyou can at least right now get the individual files from here:  https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/browser/trunk/%21BugSack
06:18.46TainOr download with an SVN client
06:19.02Depheriosthat's what I'm wondering Anduin, I was just going to Download it... but... oh n/m
06:19.05TainActually I have no idea, AnduinLothar.  Never used IEF.
06:19.28TainIt does let you play any custom sound file you like when an error occurs!
06:19.32TainOr none at all, of course.
06:19.55DepheriosI removed it, and made it a compy error noise on my laptop
06:19.57Depherioslol
06:19.59AnduinLotharcustom sound isn't hard... just replace the ief ping in the folder..
06:20.14GenNMXYeah I'm looking for a better sound for BugSack right now, it's default sound sucks ;)
06:20.17TainOk, I wasn't actually being serious about that as a big feature.
06:20.20GenNMX"Vitality!"
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06:20.42AnduinLothari like the ief ping, btu then i picked it, heh
06:20.52Depherios^_^
06:21.07Depherios... is IEF yours anduin? -- god I run a lot of your addons
06:21.24AnduinLotharI wrote the last few revisions
06:21.32Depheriosahh
06:21.34TainTakes all error messages and redirects them to a single window.  Notifes you of the error when it happens.
06:21.40KtronAnduinLothar, I know you're a GUI person
06:21.47AnduinLotharya, ief does that
06:21.53TainYou can open a window with all errors it's saved and copy/paste out of the game
06:22.00AnduinLotharyup
06:22.02Depheriosyup
06:22.15KtronDo you know of a mod that has a gui for enabling disabling mods besides LoadIT? LoadIT wasn't working right for me
06:22.23DepheriosKhaos?
06:22.24DepheriosXD
06:22.26Depheriosno um
06:22.36Depheriosmyaddons is the most popular, AFAIAA
06:22.43AnduinLotharKhaos or there's an addon manager on uiwow that i forgot the name of
06:22.45DepheriosAFAIAAA
06:22.46GenNMXKtron: myaddons or MCP by Saien
06:22.50AnduinLotharya mcp
06:23.04DepheriosMCP?
06:23.07KtronMyAddons is only for LOD addons though...
06:23.32AnduinLothari like the MCP gui, been thinking of stealing it and slapping it on Legorols AddonManager and including it in khaos
06:23.58KtronMCP looks solid...
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06:24.11KtronCSAddOnOrangizer looks okay too
06:24.39KtronMCP looks more to the point though
06:25.03TainJust hope you never have a problem or god forbid a feature request.
06:25.18AnduinLotharbut for the most part i use Legorol's AddonManager with a different set of addons for each Khaos config. then i just set a diff config as default and reload to a whole new set of addons
06:40.51Ktronhow hard would it be to make a mob to move the tabs for chat windows to the bottom?
06:41.05IrielIt's fiddly
06:41.10Irielnone of the FCF code is very pretty
06:41.38AnduinLotharmmm, actually moving to the bottom wouldn't be too hard
06:42.18AnduinLotharyou'd have to invert the textures
06:42.58Ktroninverting textures is easy
06:42.59Irielmaking them WORK at the bottom requires changing all the FCF drag code tho
06:43.00AnduinLotharhook the onupdate code, which is a pain
06:43.07Ktronyeah
06:43.08Ktronhm....
06:43.13Ktronso a fairly major project
06:46.56KtronAnother quick question-- is there a list or such of all the current button textures?
06:47.16KtronI'd like to be able to find one I'd like without counting in the macros list heh
06:47.22Ktron(for flexbar)
06:59.10GenNMXif not Local.totals[ unit ][ spell ] then Local.totals[ unit ][ spell ] = {} end <-- is this a useless statement? I just want to make sure Local.totals[unit][spell] is valid before I do the third hash.
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07:13.13IrielI think you need:
07:13.23Irieloh, never mind, it's okay.
07:13.29Irielthough i'd do it this way:
07:13.49Iriellocal tu = Local.totals[unit]; if (not tu[spell]) then tu[spell] = {}; end
07:13.50IrielOR
07:14.20Iriellocal tu,tus = Local.totals[unit]; tus=tu[spell]; if (not tus) then tus={}; tu[spell]=tus; end;
07:14.32Irielin the last case, tus ends up as tu[spell]
07:14.50Irielso you save yourself a bunch of extraneous hash dereferences
07:14.59GenNMXYeah I'm going to change that next.
07:15.35IrielSleep time, bye all
07:17.50Ktronis there a way to get the texture on a button?
07:20.32Endok
07:20.36EndI got off my ass
07:20.37TainNew VisorGUI to go along with the new Visor.
07:20.40TainYeah ktron
07:22.40AnduinLothari was just eligable for the same AB twice...
07:22.52AnduinLotharit popped up a 2nd "Enter Battle" popup
07:23.32KtronHeh, hoping for something like /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(FlexBarButton1:GetTexture(1));
07:24.11Tainktron: you can, except the FlexBarButton1 itself doesn't have the texture, it's layers of the button that do.
07:24.35KtronSo I'll have to thumb through flexbar's code to figure out what the name of the layer with the texture is
07:24.39TainFlexBarButton1Icon, FlexBarButton1NormalTexture
07:24.43GenNMXHmmm
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07:25.13TainI think those are the two main ones, from memory.
07:25.17Ktronawesome, you are right
07:25.18Ktronheh
07:25.52GenNMXRight now I'm doing this: if not Local.totals[ unit ] then Local.totals[ unit ] = {} end; if not Local.totals[ unit ][ total ] then Local.totals[ unit ][ total ] = 0 end
07:26.11GenNMXI thought with Lua you could hash into an empty table and it would add the key for you?
07:26.40GenNMXSince I'm getting "index is nil" error with Local.totals[ unit ][ total ] = 0
07:26.53GenNMXWait...stupid me
07:26.58GenNMXNevermind
07:27.35TainIt won't create nested tables automatically
07:27.37KtronTain, you are the MAN
07:27.43TainYes, yes I am.
07:27.47Tain:) thanks ktron
07:29.05GenNMXTain: That's why I initialize each iteration
07:29.07TainI've done so much work on frames and layers over the last couple of weeks it's all pretty fresh in my mind.
07:29.23GenNMXMy problem was that "total" was undefined, should have been CombatotronLocale.TOTAL, stupid me
07:30.55KtronThere's a Trade skill icon for 'Engraving'
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07:33.16TainEvening slouken
07:33.20Endhey slouken
07:33.30sloukenHeya
07:36.09Endslouken was here for a VERY long time ;P
07:36.10Kalrothlol
07:37.46TainUFC is just entertaining.  I can't help myself.
07:39.19KalrothUFC?
07:41.23AnduinLotharUFC!
07:42.00Kalrothoh, user friendly? :)
07:43.11Endthat's my guess
07:44.37TainUltimate Fighting Championship
07:46.54GenNMX"(.-) (.-) (.-) (.-) for (%d+) (.-) damage%.(.*)" <--how do I specify a capture that may include 1 or more whitespaces?
07:47.10GenNMXThat's the non-working regex for spell damage
07:47.15AnduinLothar%s+
07:48.43GenNMXAnduinLothar: It's a little more complicated then that. The 1st, 3rd, or 4th capture may have 1 or more whitespaces. Each capture point will have 1 whitepsace inbetween.
07:48.56GenNMXI should say, 0 or more whitespaces
07:51.08AnduinLothardunno if u can do it all at once
07:51.29AnduinLotharmight clump the first 4 captures together and parse them sepperately
07:51.57AnduinLotharlooking for crits or hits
07:52.14AnduinLotharand maybe you
07:54.05AnduinLotharor just look at recap or damage meters and use their method
07:55.02Legorolg'morning
07:55.23LegorolI have food question: what type of food is Bean Soup, Versicolor Treat and Steamed Mandu?
07:55.33LegorolI have established that it's not Meat, Fish, Fruit or Fungus
07:55.49Legoroland it seems to be liked by my bear, which in addition to those, also likes Bread and Cheese
07:56.00Legorolsomehow i doubt that those are Bread or Cheese though
07:59.08Ktronnight everyone
07:59.10Ktronpurl, night
07:59.14purlG'night ktron, get out of here.
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08:28.15GenNMXAnyone still awake?
08:28.23Endnot for long!
08:32.31Maldiviamorning
08:46.04krka|workI am still awake!
08:46.13krka|workhave been awake for two hours now!
08:50.33Corrodiashmm
08:50.37Corrodiaswhat does a "wreckage" look like?
08:51.25Corrodiasmy god, this is one of the worst songs ever... Knack - My Sharona
08:52.24krka|workhttp://images.google.se/images?hl=sv&q=wreckage
08:55.48Corrodiasin WoW, does a "wreckage" have the swirling circle effect that a "school" has?
09:06.16krka|workinteresting: http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-en&t=29753&s=new&tmp=1#new
09:10.28Maldiviahehe... ups :)
09:25.53GenNMXDoes anyone know how exactly string.gfind works? For example, if I do string.gfind(msg, pattern1), will string.gfind(msg, pattern2) pick up where pattern1 left off?
09:28.13krka|workthe third parameter is starting point
09:28.20krka|workno wait, it says gfind
09:28.48GenNMXOh yeah, I could save the iterator from string.find
09:29.03krka|workstring.gfind returns an iterator
09:29.22krka|workhttp://www.lua.org/manual/5.0/manual.html
09:29.50GenNMXNo, string.gfind returns an "iterator function"
09:30.35GenNMXAnyway, I'll just use the second return from string.find
09:36.57krka|workhaha thenoob comic rocks
10:39.50DepheriosTrying to learn math online sucks
11:12.18Corrodiasthis is strange...
11:12.41Corrodiasthe weekly maintenance is supposed to start at 5am, which was an hour ago. but it didn't.
11:14.34Corrodiasoh. PST, not server time... that explains it
11:18.25Depherioswhew... still have almost 2 hours then
11:18.29Depherioswe... 1:45
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11:28.15Depherios*well
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12:59.19pagefaultugh mornings
12:59.28Kalrothmoin pagefault!
12:59.40pagefaultbleh
12:59.43pagefaultmorning
12:59.48KalrothI hope you dreamt of crashing many desktops while asleep!
13:00.35pagefaultehhhh nah
13:01.30Kalrothoh, so you're one of them good pagefaults?
13:06.07pagefaultyep
13:06.52pagefaultoh yeah no WoW
13:06.54pagefaultdoh
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15:44.14id`HOW I MINE FOR FISH?
15:46.48TainWith a goblin fishing pole
15:47.16End-sleephha
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16:14.50Corrodiasyou must throw the one Yatlas update into the fires of mount WoWI
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16:50.17Eraphine|Discodoes ief use onupdates?
17:08.27krkawhat is ief and can't you just check yourself?
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17:18.08TainImproved Error Frame
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17:34.22subsonic-What's l2p?
17:34.37Cairennlearn to play
17:34.44subsonic-ahh
17:35.14subsonic-I hate it when people use u for you, 2 for to, and so on...
17:35.30subsonic-But yeah
17:35.34Cairennaka, an annoying and immature response abused on an all too frequent basis by the bnet kiddy crowd
17:35.39subsonic-there's some lame players out there
17:35.50subsonic-Cairenn, exactly!
17:35.55Tainlern2rede
17:35.57krkao rly?
17:36.13subsonic-:)
17:36.15Cairenndo that with a ~ in front of it krka :p
17:36.27krkawhy?
17:36.32Cairenntrust me
17:36.58pagefaultI want the servers to come back up so I can work more on my code
17:36.59pagefaulthehe
17:37.20subsonic-What are you making?
17:37.22Cairennhas anyone seen futr any time recently? haven't seen him around, kinda concerned
17:37.55subsonic-Any of you in the Los Angeles Area?
17:37.55pagefaultsubsonic-, just some macros to help with spells
17:38.01subsonic-pagefault: cool
17:39.30krka~o rly?
17:39.31purlACTION slaps krka several times across the face before kidney punching them and pulling out a shotgun to blow their brains out: "Ya rly!"
17:41.11krkacan you explain now cair?
17:41.42Cairennthat's pretty much the response I want to give every time someone uses that stupid orly expression :p
17:41.48subsonic-~bot
17:41.49purlI ain't no stinkin' bot.  I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool.  Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse).
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17:42.02subsonic-haha :)
17:42.03Cairennother than you guys, of course ;)
17:42.06subsonic-How old are you Cairenn?
17:42.25Cairennwell that's rather personal, don't you think subsonic-?
17:42.39Cairennand shame on you, you should know better than to ask a lady her age
17:42.56subsonic-Most older people complain about the short typing youth.
17:43.00subsonic-25+
17:43.08subsonic-I didn't know you were female!
17:43.09Eraphine|DiscoI checked Krka ;)
17:43.14Eraphine|DiscoThanks
17:43.20Cairennold enough to know better, young enough to go ahead anyway ;)
17:43.26subsonic-haha
17:43.40CairennI just turned 39
17:43.47subsonic-!
17:43.52Eraphine|Discoold enough to know better, but still too young to care?
17:43.55subsonic-/gratz
17:43.57Eraphine|DiscoYou did NOT Cairenn.
17:43.59Cairennyeah yeah, I know, I'm old
17:44.02CairennI didn't?
17:44.03Eraphine|DiscoI saw your pic
17:44.06Eraphine|DiscoYou look 26
17:44.13Eraphine|DiscoWeren't you at blizzcon?
17:44.13subsonic-Well, I'm 32
17:44.13Cairennawww, you're so sweet
17:44.23Eraphine|DiscoI thought I saw your pic with Slouken.
17:44.27Cairennyou did
17:44.28Cairennthat's me
17:44.32CairennI just turned 39
17:44.32subsonic-Who went to blizzcon?
17:44.32Eraphine|Discoyeah - you don't look 39 at atll.
17:44.47Eraphine|Discoman relink that picture, am I going nuts?
17:44.54Eraphine|Discowoman rather :) lol
17:45.54CairennJan 11, 1967
17:45.54Ktronthere an API function to toggle the display of npc/player names?
17:45.55Bela|LUNCH0.o
17:45.59subsonic-Where's pics from blizzcon?
17:46.12subsonic-Do all of you have several 60's?
17:46.26Cairennthe one and only picture of me from BlizzCon that I like at all:  http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=349
17:46.32Beladonaanyone know of a simple single user SCM solution?
17:46.38Cairenn(and yes, I'm the female :p )
17:46.42Beladonalocal not server based
17:47.08Cairennwb Bela, hope you had a yummy lunch
17:47.23Cairennsubsonic-: I don't have a single 60
17:47.29Beladonayeah
17:47.34Beladonawife brought me lunch
17:47.48Cairennyes, but did you have any food?
17:47.50krkawhat response? I have purl on ignore
17:47.51Cairenn;)
17:47.53ForgottenLords*gasp* she's short! ;)
17:48.00Cairenn5'2"
17:48.34Eraphine|DiscoRed head!
17:48.39Cairennthat too
17:48.53Cairennkrka: ***purl slaps krka several times across the face before kidney punching them and pulling out a shotgun to blow their brains out: "Ya rly!"
17:49.03krkaoh
17:49.50subsonic-That's disneyland not blizzcon
17:50.13Cairennyeah, we did Disney on Sunday
17:50.26subsonic-Where are you from?
17:50.31subsonic-Like disneyland?
17:50.36Cairennhttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2320
17:51.09Eraphine|DiscoKtron, I think it can only be done through Cvars right now.
17:51.13Cairennwould you like my social security number now too?
17:51.20ForgottenLordswoot for canuckedness!
17:51.50pagefaultanyone know how to check if you are in combat?
17:52.17subsonic-I run a streaming radio site that plays music from the disney parks.
17:52.19Cairennpagefault: see if someone/thing is beating on you
17:52.21subsonic-www.subsonicradio.com
17:52.26subsonic-might interest you.
17:52.29pagefaultCairenn, haha
17:52.35pagefaultI need to know how to check in code
17:52.44pagefaultto see if I am in combat
17:53.09CairennEraphine|Disco: believe me now?
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17:57.49Eraphine|DiscoYour age? No Way.
17:57.53Eraphine|DiscoYou may look.. 30
17:58.10Eraphine|DiscoI'm 28 myself, you look my age.
17:58.15Cairennyou really are much too sweet
17:58.22Cairennlying through your teeth, but sweet
17:58.32Eraphine|DiscoMaybe someone touched up the picture!
17:58.53Cairenngo look at some of the others in the thread
17:59.09Cairennas some people like to point out, I'm old
17:59.33Eraphine|Discooh PLEASE
17:59.42Eraphine|Discohttp://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=287
17:59.57Cairennugh
18:00.07Cairenngod I look horrid in all of them :p
18:00.18Eraphine|Discolol you look great in that one lol
18:00.27Eraphine|Disconice shoes.
18:00.34CairennEraphine|Disco: I'm female, I never think I look good in pictures :p
18:00.41Eraphine|DiscoThat's true.
18:00.47Eraphine|DiscoThe women looking good part..
18:00.54Eraphine|Discothe women thinking they good part.
18:01.04Cairennhehehehehe, I impressed Iriel with those boots ... he was impressed with how fast I could walk in them
18:01.26Eraphine|DiscoThey look comfortable.
18:01.30Cairennwe were running late, and I was all but running in them ... they're 4" stillettos
18:01.34Eraphine|Discoomg.
18:02.10Cairennyes, that's what I call them :p
18:03.29Eraphine|Discolol
18:03.32Eraphine|Discotime for lunch
18:03.44Cairennenjoy
18:05.31Cairennso, are we all done embarrassing me for today, or is there anything else?
18:06.40KtronCAIRENN U R T3H PWNTX0RZ!!
18:07.00KtronI'm all done now.
18:07.04Cairennthanks
18:17.08Beladonaanyone know if they pushed a new build today?
18:17.20Cairennthey didn't seem to Bela, I logged in with no patch
18:17.24Beladonadarn
18:17.35CairennI can check the file for sure, if you'd like
18:19.38Beladonanah
18:20.32Cairennwow.exe = Tuesday Jan 10, same as before
18:20.43Cairennversion 1.9.2.4996
18:20.58Cairenntoo late :p
18:21.44Cairennincoming files :p
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18:24.25Beladonayou didn't need to send them
18:24.28BeladonaI have that version
18:24.46Beladonathanks for the effort though
18:24.48Cairennthought so, but meh, like it's a big deal to make sure?
18:24.48[MoonWolf]Did anything get patched on us ?
18:24.51Cairennnope
18:24.57Cairennthat's what Bela and I were just confirming
18:25.02Cairennand hi [MoonWolf]
18:25.18Beladonaright now I am trying to find a software solution to use for local revisioning
18:25.23[MoonWolf]yes, hello everybody.
18:36.14Cairennlalala
18:40.10krkasubversion would work fine
18:48.40Beladonathats why I said local
18:48.46Beladonatrying not to go the server route
18:49.15Beladonajust want single user version control
18:50.19Natasemhey ya'll is there a macro that will target Priests when they heal?
18:50.35Natasem</=- Priest
18:50.45TainYou can create a local repository with svn.
18:50.58ForgottenLordsoh gods... I just thought of a way to do that in a UI mod...
18:51.21Natasemcuz i keep getting wtfpwned in AV even when i am hideing from people, they will charge around a corner or come over a hill and basicly land on me
18:52.14BeladonaI know I can Tain, but svn is a bit more than I am looking for
18:52.24Beladonaits like killing a bug with an uzi
18:54.35MentalPower|ZZzz"Never use a cannon to kill a mosquito"
18:55.46BeladonaI sort of have this idea for the perfect tool for my needs, but nothing meets it
18:58.30krkaif you find a better local version control than svn let me know
18:58.35BeladonaI found one that comes pretty damn close, but it doesn't allow me to edit the version numbers
18:58.47TainI don't see it as overkill at all.  I'd use it locally for any source.
18:59.04Beladonathats fine
18:59.15BeladonaI just view it differently
18:59.37TainWell, there's always batch files then. :)
18:59.52Beladonayou should be shot for that
18:59.55Beladonahaha
19:00.25TainThat's what someone else said the last time I had a svn discussion here.
19:00.36Tain"My batch files to copy work fine for me."
19:00.58Beladonathis is very VERY similar to what I want
19:01.00Beladonahttp://www.qumasoft.com/screen.html
19:01.17Beladonabut I can't seem to edit the version numbers
19:01.20BeladonaI can label them though
19:02.25krkawhy would you want to edit version numbers?
19:02.42Beladonaso that I can use my own versioning scheme
19:02.43TainWhat do you mean by edit the version numbers?  Incrementing them, or just being abl eto change them arbitrarily when you want to?
19:02.52TainOh I see.
19:03.10Beladonaall my addons follow a minor and a major revision
19:03.22Beladonathe major revision is always the version of the wow clients toc number
19:03.34BeladonaI guess I could do that with a label
19:03.51Beladonaexample: 1.2.10900
19:04.03subsonic-CVS is nice
19:04.12Beladonacvs lacks some things
19:04.26Beladonathat svn picks up
19:04.30subsonic-But the concept
19:04.39TainRight.  You could do it with a label just fine.
19:04.39Beladonaif I wanted to go taht route, I would definitely do svn
19:05.04Beladonawhat about this Tain? I want to track official wow client versions in it too
19:05.09Beladonalike on wdn
19:05.20Beladonato do that I need 3 number subsets
19:05.23subsonic-I also heard about  subversion
19:05.25Beladonaplus the label
19:05.49Beladonaand technically wow developers do it the other way around
19:05.57Beladonathe last numbers are the version
19:06.00Beladonainternally
19:06.05subsonic-I was starting to make a mod, but it got too hard :)
19:06.06TainYeah.
19:06.07Beladonaand first 3 would be the label
19:06.09krkahmm... ClassTrainerFrame seems to be internal :(
19:06.24Beladonaso annoying
19:06.31subsonic-discord party bars has some cool stuff, but it's way overkill.
19:06.33TainBut you could just make separate branches for each version, and branch under each as you need for subversion numbers.
19:07.02Beladonathat makes it messy though
19:07.19TainOh, I was seeing it as organized.
19:07.19Beladonaand not sure that program lets me do cross branch compares
19:07.21TainA tree structure.
19:07.32Beladonano I agree
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19:09.33Beladonamaybe I need to build my own tool
19:09.40Beladonaand release it as an addon versioning program
19:10.19TainSure, put the exact things you need in it.
19:10.56Beladonahave all the basics we all need, plus version index customization, among other things
19:12.06Cairennand then get Dolby to integrate it with WoWI
19:12.20Cairenn;)
19:12.29Beladonait wouldn't be web based
19:12.48Cairennit was a joke :p
19:12.57Beladonabut I could include something that allows automatic zip packaging and upload to wowi
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19:18.42Beladonamaybe my problem is I am looking for something that doesn't totally exist. by definition SCM's are designed for group access rather than individual. When you start looking for something that is only meant for single users to track changes, and control versions / releases, it might be called something else
19:20.16Cairenncould be
19:24.18Natasemlol
19:24.36NatasemI like to go in to the Peoples' Republic of Tyr's Hand armed with my handy chinese swearing dictionary.
19:24.38Natasemhttp://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/mandarin.htm
19:24.39Natasemhttp://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/cantonese.htm
19:24.51Natasemgot that out of the Gen forums
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19:36.53TemCairenn: are you around?
19:37.01Cairennnope, more like an hourglass
19:37.13TemI'm having some trouble uploading to wowi
19:37.40Temwhen I click on the manage images link it just opens an empty window
19:38.02Cairennodd
19:38.05Temoh I found it
19:38.16Cairennpebkac?
19:38.20Cairenn;)
19:38.23Temnope
19:38.29Temthere is only one table element on that page
19:38.34Temand no OGaming bar
19:38.44Temso my script killed the table element thinking it was the OGaming bar
19:38.48Cairennahhh
19:38.52TemI need to add a check for that
19:39.14Cairennstill pebkac then, since you are the one that created the script :p
19:39.40TemI would think it falls under programming oversight
19:39.41Cairennit's not an error on *our* end :p
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20:05.14Natasemw00t Cairenn is shaped like an hour glass
20:21.40krkaCairenn is teh hotzorz
20:26.15Natasemeh is editing the realmlist.wtf file against any tos,tou, eula, ect?
20:27.15Cideno
20:32.54TemMan that's depressing
20:33.22TemI've been holding off on a release of IDCard since before 1.9 because I was putting off adding a feature
20:33.42Temlast night I noticed that gello released a mod that does the exact same thing
20:34.04Temso I got all motivated and finished the feature I had been putting off
20:34.09Temand it looked crappy
20:34.24Temso I ended up reverting to the code I've had written since before 1.9 came out
20:34.31Temthen released it ><
20:34.56krkaIDCard?
20:35.17Temhttp://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4507
20:36.17krkai see
20:36.35Temthe whole thing would take your like 10 minutes to write
20:36.47Tems/your/you/
20:37.12Ktronthat's a neat trick for purl
20:37.31Temvery
20:37.34TemI like it
20:38.06KtronI wonder if it replaces more than one instance if more than one instance occurs...
20:38.08krkaa generic you or did you mean me?
20:38.14Ktrons/instance/occurance/
20:38.44krkapurl is the greatest thing ever!
20:38.57krkas/greatest thing/biggest piece of crap/
20:39.19TemExample blah of blah multiple blah replacements blah
20:39.25Tems/blah//g
20:39.30Natasemi could have sworn that emulated servers were a no no
20:39.40TemNatasem: they are
20:39.57Natasemthen why is there so many that are stll around and running?
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20:43.32CodayusThe same reason there's still murders, despite it being against the law.  Bliz works to shut them down, but more spring up.  <shrug>
20:44.13krkadon't really see how emulated servers are illegal
20:44.36krkaagainst eula sure, but you don't technically need to even own the game to create a server
20:44.49TainUS Courts have said so.
20:44.50Taimkrka: I didn't say they were.
20:45.00TainThey shutdown the bnet emulation.
20:45.29krkaTaim: I didn't say you said they were :)
20:46.03krkahmm... why is there a Taim and a Tain
20:46.06krkavery annoying
20:46.22CodayusIf you were in a different channel...you'd know.
20:46.23krkatain, you mean the bnetd?
20:46.33CodayusBut since you aren't, you're doomed to puzzlement and confusion.
20:47.26CodayusAnyhow - murder is a crime, while running an emulated server is not (or it shouldn't be, anyhow - US IP law gets weird every year, but it should be a tort, not a crime).  I believe the analogy still holds though.
20:47.30krkaoh right, that crap law DMCA
20:47.40CodayusAmong others.
20:47.40TemSee people keep "confusing" me and Tain so Codayus decided to make it worse
20:48.50krkaafaik, it was DMCA and reverse engineering and eula
20:49.49krkais taim taken from wheel of time btw?
20:49.55Temyes it is
20:50.07CodayusI'm not sure what Bliz uses for shutting down emulated severs.  There's a couple obvious approaches.
20:51.44Codayus<shrug>  I support the results, although as a matter of principle I'd prefer them to do so via arguments relating to contracts or copyrights than say, the DMCA and the reverse engineering clause...
20:52.13krkawould be a bitch if Microsoft shut down Wine
20:52.36krkaor if the case applied to any other reverse engineered product
20:52.50TemOk so the error trying to bind the mousewheel is "Can't bind mousewheel for actions with up and down states"
20:53.06TemWhat kind of action would you be able to bind the mousewheel to?
20:53.19krkathe ones without up and down states
20:53.34Tainhaha
20:53.43TainThey're talking up and down like mouse up and mouse down. :)
20:53.49TemI dunno
20:53.51Tainerr button up and down
20:54.08TemI'm just trying to shut up a user who insists that he can bind the mousewheel to stuff without myBindings installed
20:54.54Temso I need more info on how they work
20:55.36krkahe can, I think
20:55.43krkajust not to stuff like Move forward
20:56.01krka<Binding name="MOVEBACKWARD" runOnUp="true">
20:56.18krkait's the runOnUp="true" that makes mousewheel unworkable
20:56.32krkayou could bind it to jump
20:56.51id`i do that in fps games to bunnyhop :<
20:56.53krkaI haven't actually tested it though
20:57.02krkabut if I understand the error correctly
21:00.45Temthanks I'll try it
21:02.08subsonic-What's dkp?
21:02.45subsonic-oh, that instance running thing
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21:03.28ToastTheifIndus
21:03.51ToastTheifid`
21:08.35pagefaultwhats the addon that does /reload, I disabled something I can forget which it is
21:08.56TemAce does that
21:08.59Temso does DevTools
21:09.14pagefaultah thanks
21:14.23krkahmm... making my own memory manager... i wonder if this is a bad idea
21:17.19krkaanyone want to see it? :)
21:17.32ToastTheifid`
21:17.40ToastTheifget back here
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21:18.08krkanot really that advanced I suppose though
21:19.26Eraphine|Disco2Does anyone remember an addon that added Usable Class to tooltips for ZG drops?
21:42.39krkamy simple memory management: http://wow.pastebin.com/510509
21:46.27TemEraphine|Disco2:  Mendeleev
21:48.23TainYay G15 thread back on frontpage!
21:48.52Cairennyeah, forum didn't seem right without at least one
21:48.55krkayay, added container item support to krkaUtils (and krkaButtons)
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21:51.15TainOh Tem I uploaded a new VisorGUI last night.  It lets you move hidden windows without showing them by using a virtual frame of the same dimensions of the window, and applying those settings.
21:51.33Temoh cool
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21:51.55krkadamn it
21:51.55Guillotinewooow. lots of people here today...
21:51.59krkacan someone look this up for me?
21:52.04Guillotinesure. what?
21:52.06krkaGameTooltip:SetBagItem?
21:52.11krkawhat's that function called exactly
21:52.14ToastTheifTem
21:52.19ToastTheifwhat server you play on?
21:52.29TemGarona
21:52.33TainHe plays on "Crasha`Alotta"
21:52.42ToastTheifmmm
21:52.45TemI'm known as Temaile there
21:52.58Temwhy?
21:53.19ToastTheifthere is a Tem on Smolderthorn
21:53.26Temah
21:53.28Temthat's not me
21:53.49krkaseems it was SetBagItem
21:53.51krkanever mind me then
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21:56.40ToastTheifGAH
21:56.42ToastTheifwhere is id
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21:59.59Temkrka: what are going on about now?
22:01.24krkahuh?
22:02.49Temsomething about SetBagItem
22:02.56Bela|AFKgoing home
22:03.05Temlater Bela|AFK
22:03.31krkanever mind, i found it :)
22:08.20krkathis is going to kick all kinds of ass
22:10.53krkaok, what events am I missing here?
22:11.00krkaBAG_UPDATE and BAG_UPDATE_COOLDOWN
22:11.03krkaanything else related to bags?
22:17.05Temkrka: what are you doing?
22:17.10subsonic-What are you working on?
22:17.19subsonic-I wanna see :)
22:17.23Temditto
22:17.34subsonic-cause i suck at coding this.  It didn't make sense to me
22:17.38subsonic-I prefer php :)
22:18.07krkaworking on my inventory utilities
22:18.19krkai am not getting BAG_UPDATE events it seems
22:18.32krkayou'll see when I get it working
22:20.01TemAh, you should check out Tekkub's Special Events
22:20.16Temhe did some work with BAG_UPDATE to make it not suck quite as much
22:20.23krkaah I see
22:23.10FanookI love how the BAG_OPEN event doesn't actually apply to what we consider bags
22:25.22krkahis code doesn't seem to help
22:26.38krkaBAG_UPDATE isn't triggered at all
22:26.47krkaI was assuming it would trigger if something got moved around
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22:34.35FanookDo not taunt Happy Fun Bela
22:36.13Cairennbut, taunting people is what I do best!
22:36.26krkalalala
22:36.29krkaI am a retard
22:36.56Cairennoh now see, that's just too easy
22:37.10Cairennno challenge
22:38.42krkafind my bug so nothing can stop me
22:38.48krkas/find/found/
22:45.58TemNooooo!
22:46.07TemIt's billing purgatory day!
22:46.37Maldiviaok?
22:46.45Cairenn*comforts Tem*
22:46.46Tem(I can't post on the forums today)
22:47.23TemI suppose for now that's a good thing because I was about to go swatting some flies
22:47.23Cairenn*knew what you were talking about*
22:48.01MaldiviaTem: you not being able to post on the forums... never a good thing...
22:48.13Temmeh
22:48.18TemI'll survive
22:48.27Maldiviabut will the forum ?
22:48.47Guillotinei think WoW is going to die out without Tem to crash the forums
22:48.49Guillotinepost on*
22:49.07Temlol
22:49.11Maldiviacrash the client, post on the forums :)
22:49.28Guillotinenah. he crashes the forums too. havn't you ever seen 'Forums not ready'? thats him
22:49.38GuillotineI just know it
22:49.49MaldiviaAhh...
22:50.24TemI didn't do it
22:50.29TemI swar
22:50.38Tems/a/ea/
22:50.45Cairennhate to disillusion you
22:50.55Cairennbut the forums being down are Iriel's fault
22:51.04Temdefinatly
22:51.08Guillotinecould be. I know her posts make MY head hurt
22:51.09Cairennevery time Iriel pisses Slouken off, Slouken takes the forums down
22:51.16Maldivialol
22:51.31Tem(guilloine: Iriel is not a "she")
22:51.35Guillotine... dang. iriel didn't notice that I called him a her
22:51.37Guillotinetem: i know ;)
22:51.41Temoh
22:51.50Cairennand we all know that Iriel pisses Slouken off on a regular basis, in case you hadn't noticed
22:51.57Temoh yeah
22:52.05Guillotineyup
22:52.07Maldiviawell, he's posting from a female avatar... so she :)
22:52.35Guillotinemaldivia: thats why I originally thought iriel was a she. then I realized it annoys him to call him a she. so I kept doing it :D
22:52.59Cairennactually, it doesn't annoy him at all, last I heard
22:53.05Guillotineoh
22:53.10Guillotineoh well
22:53.23Guillotineactually, I was covering up for my accident :/
22:53.24Maldiviait lets him get in touch with his feminine side? :)
22:53.38Cairennbut thank you for playing, and as a lovely parting gift we have this ...
22:53.58GuillotineI used to always call Iriel a she and got into the habit of it... so now I cover up my mistakes by saying it was on purpose :D
22:54.37Guillotineand actually, Iriel is a she. It is the player that plays Iriel that is a male (unless his real name is 'Iriel')
22:55.02Guillotinein which case Iriel is both male and female...
22:55.16Guillotineow. my head hurts
22:55.34MaldiviaGuillotine: but for some reason, I doubt he'll be glad if you call him a shemale...
22:55.43Guillotinehaha
22:55.55Endreal name isn't Iriel iirc
22:56.11GuillotineI was pretty sure
22:56.14MaldiviaDaniel, would be a good guess
22:56.18EndCairenn could probably tell you the real name, but I don't remember what
22:56.22Endthat sounds..right
22:56.28Temno it is right
22:56.30Guillotine./who iriel
22:56.36Guillotine:)
22:56.39CairennDaniel
22:56.39Tem<PROTECTED>
22:56.41Maldivia:)
22:56.44Endoh
22:56.46Endthere you go :P
22:56.50Guillotine./who works too
22:56.56Tem/who iriel
22:57.00Temnot on my client
22:57.07CairennI can tell you the RL name of a fair few in the channel
22:57.08Guillotineinteresting
22:57.13Cairennnot all, but a lot
22:57.21GuillotineI can as well. /who #wowi-lounge
22:57.30Endhmm, you could do a whois of iriel.org too :P
22:57.35Guillotinetrue
22:57.46MaldiviaThat's why I don't have my real name as userinfo :)
22:57.56Guillotineya. i checked. was going to stalk you
22:58.03Guillotinefind your phone number and everything
22:58.10Guillotine:P
22:58.21Guillotinethere ARE some creepy ppl on the internet though
22:58.24GuillotineTem for example
22:58.36krkacan someone explain why GameTooltip:SetSpell works but GameTooltip:SetBagItem does not?
22:58.48Temkrka: when?
22:58.54krkawhen I try to use it
22:58.54Tem~smack Guillotine
22:58.55purlACTION smacks Guillotine upside the head.
22:58.56krka:P
22:59.00Maldiviakrka: are you using them correctly ?
22:59.18krkausing them the same way
22:59.23krkaexcept the SetBagItem part
22:59.28krka(obviously)
22:59.41Endhmm
23:00.03EndI got results out of :SetBagItem
23:00.27EndI tried 1,1 and luckily I had something in 1,1
23:00.28Maldiviaworks fine here :)
23:00.32krkahmm
23:00.52Endif it returns nil is seems to have nothing in it
23:01.00Ender, it
23:01.08Maldiviaprobably true
23:01.31krkagah, I know i'm using it correctly
23:01.31End(I'm sure wowwiki has a better idea of the return values though, that's just my observation for 10 seconds of playing around with it)
23:01.56Maldiviawell, according to the return values is: hasCooldown, repairCost
23:02.01krkanever mind
23:02.03krkaI am a retard
23:02.04Maldiviaaccording to wowwiki
23:02.13Endah, well, there you go :P
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23:02.17krkaused the wrong tooltip :(
23:02.23Endhaha
23:02.25krka(a hidden one that I scan stuff with)
23:02.25AstrylKwak!
23:02.28AstrylCairenn!
23:02.28krkaof course i didn't see it
23:02.42Cairenn*purr*
23:02.45EndI just moused over something that shows the tooltip, and then did it on GameTooltip
23:02.56AstrylWhen can we get updated TKing skins for 1.9?
23:03.02Cairennltns Astryl, how are you?
23:03.08Cairennthey should still work fine
23:03.13krkathis is almost presentable now
23:03.19AstrylPretty good.
23:03.26End<3 /dump
23:03.32AstrylNope, they're missing a few elements.
23:03.44Cairennthey've always been missing a few elements
23:04.00AstrylAll bags beyond the backpack have default graphics, as does the bank from, and all bank bags.
23:04.08Cairennyup
23:04.13AstrylI'm 95% sure that all the bags at least worked pre 1.9
23:04.24AstrylSo, when can we get an updated version? :)
23:04.31Cairennask him :p
23:04.40Cairennyou know where his forum is
23:04.45Astryl...
23:04.47AstrylNuh uh.
23:04.57Cairennnuh uh?
23:05.29Astrylugh, fine, make me actually go to wowi.com...
23:05.48Cairenn*such* a hardship, I know
23:06.18Endit is
23:06.36Cairennno love
23:07.12Endhey, I did you wanted of me!
23:07.17Ender
23:07.28Endhey, I did what you wanted of me!
23:07.50Cairennnope, still empty
23:07.55krkaanyone have a mage here?
23:08.01Endheh]
23:08.03krkawould be easiest to show off then :)
23:08.08EndI have a level 17 mage
23:08.10krkasince I could just use my current settings
23:08.20End:P
23:09.24AstrylMy gf has a 51 mage...
23:12.03Endhmm
23:12.17Endmaybe I should rewrite more than I wanted to
23:15.14krkaok, ready to show, do you want to test this end?
23:15.18krkai would really appreciate it :)
23:16.18MaldiviaI'm starting to get really tired of all those "how do I make a macro that does everything for me" threads...
23:16.25Endhmm?
23:16.27Endsure
23:17.21krkahttp://kristofer.no-ip.info:8080/krkaPack.zip
23:17.31AstrylMald, I made one for my feral druid.
23:17.37Astryl(A macro that does everything for me)
23:17.38krkastuff that may be good to know: /krkab reset resets the buttons in case you misplace them
23:17.40Cidethe forum was better in the old days! :)
23:17.49krka<PROTECTED>
23:17.52Cidewhen it was "Interface Customization" and not "UI & Macros" :P
23:17.52Cairenn<PROTECTED>
23:17.58krkayou can set up keybindings as normal
23:18.09krkaother than that... it should Just Work(tm)
23:18.23EndOK
23:18.25Endooops
23:18.27Endcaps
23:18.30krkaif you really like it and want to customize it, take a look inside Settings.lua
23:18.39krkahmm
23:18.45krkayou need to do that anyway
23:18.47AstrylSo I'm on my feral druid the other day...
23:18.51krkamy characters name is hardcoded there
23:18.55krka:p
23:19.07krkaalso, I haven't updated the toc in a long time :)
23:19.10AstrylAnd my gf and I round up 3 people, and go to ST.
23:19.12krkaversion number that is
23:19.24AstrylI'm the main tank, in bear form.
23:19.32End"Lobnaz"? :P
23:19.40krkayup
23:19.45AstrylAnd Warden Staff drops on the first ooze outside the instance.
23:19.54EndAstryl: nice!
23:19.59krkayou can't tease someone who calls himself "krka" about nicknames :p
23:20.22AstrylI think that was the hardest item I've ever had to soulbind.
23:20.32Endhmm
23:21.25krkasomething not working?
23:21.36EndI have to customize a little
23:21.47Endbeing pre-level 20 means I don't even have blink yet!
23:22.01krkaah
23:22.04krkais it complaining?
23:22.08End(obviously not my main))
23:22.09Endit was
23:22.17krkaoh right, it expects it to be somewhere
23:22.21krkaI should fix that :
23:24.02TemAnyone know where I can find moveanything?  I need to look at it's interface
23:24.05krka(every time you see me write a single colon on the end of the line, it's a broken smiley btw)
23:24.17Tems/it's/its/
23:24.45id`Cairenn, I have one tip for WOWI; The prieview.php that shows you the image whan you click on the image to enlarge it when having read the AddOn's description now opens in a new window (target="_blank"). I'd like it better when it would open in the same window.
23:24.53krkaEnd, just removing add-lines with spells you dont have should be enough
23:24.59id`when*
23:25.09Endkrka: already did that :P
23:25.27FanookTem: ui.worldofwar.net
23:25.33Temthanks
23:26.28Endhahah
23:26.35End<PROTECTED>
23:26.40Endwasn't showing anything before that
23:26.59krkaheh
23:27.08krkabtw, shouldn't alt-z hide all frames?
23:27.39Endyes
23:27.47Endtry parenting to uiparent
23:28.18Endchanging uiscale probably won't affect you either :P
23:28.22Enduntil you do that
23:28.34krkahm
23:29.19Endah
23:29.27End<PROTECTED>
23:29.40krkayeah
23:29.42Endnow it actually shows some icon textures
23:29.46krkayay!
23:30.19Endoh, that's mana cost?
23:30.24krkaI think I need to work on making my addon friendlier if I want it usable to joe user
23:30.27krkayes
23:30.35krkaor item count if it's an item
23:31.08Endpretty neat...still needs work though ;P
23:31.12krkaagreed
23:31.22krkamoving them should be simpler
23:31.26Fanookkrka: got a problem with Find Herbs. my mage don't have it and it's spamming the chat frame
23:31.40EndFanook: find Settings.lua and edit
23:31.43krkayou have to remove that spell from Settings.lua
23:31.53Endcomment out the offending lines
23:31.54krkain the future, I'll make it behave nicer
23:32.24End(by offending lines I mean comment out the line that says Find Herbs in the function at the end)
23:32.54krkayou may want to do that for all spells you don't have
23:33.14krkaI was smarter when I wrote the code that handles items so that is a bit more clever
23:33.24krkait automatically hides stuff you don't have
23:34.30Fanookhmmm, water and white rice do not help ease spicy chinese food :)
23:34.54krkaspicy food doesn't need help, it's already fixed
23:35.42TainThe only thing that calms spicy hot is dairy.
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23:36.07GaldocHey folks.
23:36.59Galdochttp://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9041/wowscrnshot0117061451310rz.jpg
23:37.15GaldocFor those that would like to take a look at the UI I just finished screwing around with for today.
23:38.00FanookTain: yeah yeah yeah
23:39.33krkanow sleep, tomorrow making addon friendlier
23:39.47Fanooknice touch adding the mana cost
23:40.09krkathanks
23:45.45Galdocany comments? :P
23:47.04Fanookit's very...colorful
23:47.21GaldocYeah
23:47.28GaldocI've got a lot of graphics work left to do on it
23:48.54Galdocanyhow, I'm off. be wellfolks.
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