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| 00:00.34 | Kremonte | someone shoot me plz |
| 00:00.42 | Cairenn | ~shoot Kremonte |
| 00:00.44 | purl | ACTION shoots Kremonte in the eye with a phase pistol! |
| 00:00.47 | Kremonte | thanks |
| 00:00.53 | Cairenn | glad to help |
| 00:01.04 | Kremonte | so AQ opened this morning, and my internet would go down every time i got down to 100 left in queue |
| 00:01.20 | Kremonte | so i went to play CS after a while, and i see my account has been compromised |
| 00:01.29 | Cairenn | :( |
| 00:01.35 | Kremonte | i finally got on WoW about 30 minutes ago, and we're about to engage the first boss in AQ40 |
| 00:01.36 | ckknight | compromised? |
| 00:01.45 | Cairenn | hacked into |
| 00:01.47 | Kremonte | at 50% i disconnected, and couldn't log back on because of server lag |
| 00:01.53 | ckknight | hrm |
| 00:01.57 | Kremonte | so i say "screw it, i'll play CS until it calms down" |
| 00:01.59 | Kremonte | oh, can't. |
| 00:02.25 | Kremonte | bad day >< |
| 00:04.45 | kaiden | Is there anyway to return multiple values, like you get from functions where you something1,something2 = moo(); and something1 is given the first return and something2 is given the second |
| 00:05.02 | Kremonte | yes |
| 00:05.06 | Kremonte | function() return a,b end |
| 00:05.34 | kaiden | lol should have guessed it was the same way you get the info :P |
| 00:05.37 | kaiden | sorry just learning |
| 00:06.18 | Kremonte | ah, reading helps take off the stress of lack-of gaming =D |
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| 00:11.20 | Guillotine | yes? |
| 00:11.28 | Kremonte | you're fun to tickle |
| 00:11.49 | Guillotine | is that a good thing? |
| 00:11.58 | Kremonte | i don't know :-) |
| 00:12.50 | Guillotine | ok... |
| 00:13.02 | Kremonte | Guillotine not happy? |
| 00:13.09 | Guillotine | kremonte, I just got 3 more people to use getlink. our plan is working! now all you need to do is put in that malicious code |
| 00:13.09 | Kremonte | you seem bummed out ^________^ |
| 00:13.16 | Kremonte | haha |
| 00:13.36 | Guillotine | wait. pretend I said that in a private msg everyone... |
| 00:13.38 | Kremonte | i'm actually working on a new version of getlink right now ;) |
| 00:13.56 | Kremonte | i have !getlink xxx working, and basic config. hehehe |
| 00:15.18 | Kremonte | sooo lalala. any events going on that i can partake in? |
| 00:16.57 | Guillotine | I just made a dkp addon for a guild yesterday |
| 00:17.17 | Guillotine | thought about making it keep stable dkp values for Guillotine... but decided against it |
| 00:17.28 | Guillotine | though it would be nice to ALWAYS have 3000 dkp |
| 00:17.32 | Kremonte | lol |
| 00:18.11 | Shadowd | Thats not how you cheat the system, it just needs to add 10% more for you every time |
| 00:23.00 | ckknight | yea |
| 00:23.12 | ckknight | or randomly add a few points between raids |
| 00:23.33 | Kremonte | have a 1/2 chance to not remove DKP for buying an item |
| 00:23.47 | ckknight | naw, people might notice that |
| 00:23.48 | Shadowd | That'd be easy to track |
| 00:24.07 | Kremonte | mmm i guess |
| 00:24.31 | Shadowd | You could add 50% to peope you hate and get them kicked! |
| 00:24.41 | Kremonte | lol |
| 00:24.48 | Kremonte | my guild doesn't kick for low DKP |
| 00:24.58 | Kremonte | i have the lowest MC and BWL dkp and i'm not even a full member ;D |
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| 00:34.08 | kaiden | And i'm done! :) a macro system that conjures water / food / gems each from 1 single button and also uses the items if you are over a certain set level of the item and only conjures more if you are under a certain percentage of available items from that type |
| 00:35.03 | Cairenn | nice |
| 00:35.16 | Cairenn | feel free to toss it up on WoWI if you want to |
| 00:41.35 | Tuatara | Looking for some help with the inspect frame and the honor tab. Need to understand the events that occur to get an inspect. |
| 00:42.21 | Tuatara | I see there is a NotifyInspect("target"); that needs to be called and then a RequestInspectHonorData(); which will eventually fire an event saying the INSPECT_HONOR_UPDATE. Once that is done then you can do a GetInspectHonorData() to get that honor. |
| 00:47.29 | Tuatara | my problem is that I can't seem to get the NotifyInspect("target"); to run or don't understand what that function does. |
| 00:53.39 | GenNMX|Thrae | WoW is down? |
| 00:54.37 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ah, it's just impossibly slow. |
| 00:57.05 | Corrodias | BOY IS THAT A SURPRISE |
| 01:01.14 | Shadowd | It's not slow, just giving you a history lesson |
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| 01:15.18 | Tuatara | Figured it out... the NotifyInspect("target") just is something to setup the InspectFrame so you can do a RequestInspectHonorData() right after to get the event to fire. |
| 01:21.43 | zespri | Thottbot shows two levels for an item: requred - that one that we see in the tooltip and some "real" level. Anyone knows where this "real" level comes from? |
| 01:24.50 | GenNMX|Thrae | Perhaps the "real" level is the first level you can actually obtain the item? |
| 01:29.51 | zespri | could be... then I guess it;s kind of statistics info you can't really get it from within the game |
| 01:31.09 | zespri | actually doesn't look like this guess is correct. there are items listed as level 76 =) |
| 01:31.22 | zespri | so it couldn't possible be the first level you can obtain |
| 01:32.04 | zespri | item level is more then "required" level there |
| 01:32.10 | zespri | for example http://www.thottbot.com/?i=1880 |
| 01:32.29 | GenNMX|Thrae | Huh, dunno then. |
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| 02:00.59 | Tain | No, there's an explanation about the "level" of an item, somewhere. I forget, I think it has to do with the amount of overall stats, or function, or something that an item can have. |
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| 02:01.43 | zespri | what I'm after is where ic comes from within the game. is it API call or something... |
| 02:02.26 | zespri | if you could remeber where it was it would be awesome |
| 02:04.07 | kaiden | you can get the text of an items tooltip and scrape it from that |
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| 02:12.44 | WobSleep | omg |
| 02:12.47 | WobSleep | I'm in the queue |
| 02:12.54 | WobSleep | I've never been so happy to be in the queue |
| 02:13.30 | Shadowd | Because it beats the server being down? |
| 02:13.52 | WobSleep | because I' haven't been able to connect at all for the last week or so |
| 02:16.18 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 02:16.24 | Codayus | Where *does* the item level come from? |
| 02:16.41 | Codayus | I would have thought GetItemInfo() would return it, but apparently not... |
| 02:26.46 | zespri | kaiden, no you can't. this info is not in the tooltip |
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| 02:27.29 | zespri | yeah, that's the mistery I want unveiled |
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| 02:28.53 | futrtrubl | hola |
| 02:34.38 | Tuatara | Anyone have a link to a blp2tga converter? The vjeux link that I have isn't working. |
| 02:35.00 | Cairenn | there's one on Curse |
| 02:38.01 | Tuatara | thx |
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| 02:45.02 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 02:45.44 | Codayus | Log on to test some code. About 60 seconds later...disconnected. Try to log back on and "world server is down". GG Bliz? :-/ |
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| 03:14.58 | Cairenn | hey Kaelten |
| 03:15.04 | Kaelten | hey cair |
| 03:22.54 | futrtrubl | damn it, every site I go to times out |
| 03:23.44 | Cairenn | :( |
| 03:28.06 | Kaelten | doh |
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| 03:30.36 | Tuatara | damn I am rusty... does Lua have div and mod functions or is always dealing with real numbers? |
| 03:30.52 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 03:30.56 | Wobin_ | math.mod |
| 03:31.11 | Wobin_ | for div there was something... but I can't recall offhand |
| 03:32.20 | Tuatara | is the math library part of the WoW lua? |
| 03:32.30 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 03:33.23 | Tuatara | hmmm looks like mod is there. |
| 03:33.30 | Tuatara | now to find out what the div function is. |
| 03:34.11 | Tuatara | ah |
| 03:34.18 | Tuatara | ... math.floor(7/2) |
| 03:34.23 | Wobin_ | That's the one =0 |
| 03:34.25 | Wobin_ | ) |
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| 03:37.56 | Eraphine | Hey has anyone beat Huhuran here? |
| 03:45.36 | Guillotine | anyone mind if I use the name 'Function Hookers' for a guild? I'm just asking b/c we DID make up the name together. Probably won't be anyone else in my guild that knows to program, but I love the game |
| 03:46.20 | Wobin_ | You put out for code? |
| 03:49.28 | Guillotine | huh? |
| 03:49.35 | Guillotine | oh. lol |
| 03:57.49 | Codayus | ZOMG, world server down again. That's like 4 times in 40 minutes. |
| 03:57.50 | Codayus | ... |
| 03:57.56 | Codayus | Maybe I should move to the other continent. |
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| 04:04.17 | Codayus | Quick lua question - I'm trying to check whether a function is returning ANY non-nil values or not. Something like: if myFunc() then ... end only seems to check if the first value returned is non nil? |
| 04:04.53 | Codayus | What's the easy way to do that? :-) |
| 04:06.02 | futrtrubl | tablize the returns and check through the key/val pairs? |
| 04:06.31 | futrtrubl | oh eazy... hmm |
| 04:06.37 | Codayus | hrm |
| 04:11.39 | WobSleep | How many returns are you dealing with? |
| 04:12.01 | Codayus | An unknown number between uh...one and twenty? |
| 04:12.41 | Wobble | I guess do what fut suggested... although there must be a better way in the function itself? |
| 04:12.50 | Wobble | What happens when you find a nil value? |
| 04:13.20 | Codayus | Okay, basically, I pass the function a table of things, it does a check on each one, then returns either a nil or a non nil value - one for each element in the table. |
| 04:13.27 | Codayus | And it's not my function... |
| 04:13.44 | Codayus | So, I'll just call the function one element of the table at a time... |
| 04:14.47 | Wobble | although I don't know if doing multiple calls as compared to iterating through the table of results would be more efficient |
| 04:15.11 | futrtrubl | time to do a speed text ;'] |
| 04:19.38 | futrtrubl | sometimes I think my brain has an automatic spell checker that pics a random word, that should have said test. |
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| 04:24.20 | Guillotine | uhh... yay? |
| 04:24.34 | Cairenn | *shrug* |
| 04:25.19 | Wobin_ | shenme? |
| 04:26.07 | Cairenn | shenanigans? |
| 04:26.21 | Wobin_ | mandarin for "What?" =) |
| 04:27.08 | Guillotine | Utway? |
| 04:27.13 | Guillotine | piglatin for "What?" |
| 04:27.16 | Guillotine | Mah? |
| 04:27.20 | Cairenn | wot? you've never had someone call shenanigans on you? |
| 04:27.21 | Guillotine | hebrew for "What?" |
| 04:27.46 | Guillotine | if anyone here is bored and wants to hijack a vent server with me, let me know |
| 04:27.56 | Wobin_ | hijack it? |
| 04:28.08 | Guillotine | actually... never mind that. my guild master might get mad if we fill up all the spaces |
| 04:28.18 | Guillotine | I mean as in all use it ;) |
| 04:28.27 | Guillotine | since WoWI doesn't have one yet even though it needs it |
| 04:28.31 | Wobin_ | Then we cruise down the main strip hollering at women? |
| 04:28.34 | Guillotine | I'm too bored in WoW |
| 04:28.47 | Guillotine | ahhh... maybe not that |
| 04:28.56 | Cairenn | omfg Guillotine, we don't already offer enough? |
| 04:29.06 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 04:29.11 | Guillotine | more is always better |
| 04:29.18 | Cairenn | would you like my first born, too? |
| 04:29.30 | futrtrubl | oh, could I? |
| 04:29.31 | Wobin_ | Only if you name it Tinky |
| 04:29.37 | Wobin_ | Cause that'd be funny =) |
| 04:29.54 | Cairenn | no, wait, forget I asked that, she's 18 and any number of you have already asked for her :p |
| 04:29.54 | futrtrubl | she already has a first born |
| 04:30.00 | Guillotine | Cairenn: not me! |
| 04:30.23 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 04:30.39 | Guillotine | can you rename your child without their permission? |
| 04:30.43 | futrtrubl | oh, didddddddn't know you had an older daughter |
| 04:30.45 | Wobin_ | Well at least she's legal now *nods* |
| 04:30.58 | Wobin_ | Probably as long as they're under... what... 16? 18? |
| 04:31.01 | futrtrubl | damn sticky ddddddddd key |
| 04:31.19 | Cairenn | depends on for what you are referring? |
| 04:31.34 | Wobin_ | Or rather, chances are you could -technically- change their name |
| 04:31.54 | Wobin_ | But wouldn't be able to due to precedent and stuff |
| 04:32.14 | Cairenn | Guillotine: depending on their age, yes you can, at least in Canada |
| 04:32.18 | Wobin_ | (ie you'd get strange looks at the registry) |
| 04:32.38 | futrtrubl | "yes, I |
| 04:32.42 | Wobin_ | . o O ("You want to rename your child, what?!") |
| 04:32.43 | Cairenn | why anyone *would* is a whole 'nuther story |
| 04:32.53 | futrtrubl | ld like to change my sons name from Osama..." |
| 04:35.52 | Guillotine | well, it would be funny to threaten your kid that if they don't get back by curfew, you're renaming them 'Latey McLateLate |
| 04:36.21 | Wobin_ | Of the Clan McLate =P |
| 04:36.27 | Wobin_ | (Late) |
| 04:36.30 | Cairenn | if your child is old enough that they have a curfew, they should have some say in in any name changes |
| 04:37.01 | Guillotine | its probably below 18 that the parent doesn't need permission from the child though |
| 04:37.12 | Guillotine | so at 17... |
| 04:37.41 | Cairenn | legal and what's right aren't necessarily the same thing |
| 04:37.58 | Guillotine | I never said it was right ;) thats why its just fun to laugh at |
| 04:38.07 | Guillotine | and why my kids are probably going to hate me |
| 04:38.27 | Cairenn | I mean, not like I'm opinionated or anything ;) |
| 04:38.45 | Wobin_ | Perish the thought Cair =) |
| 04:45.01 | Cairenn | so any luck on getting in, Wobin_? |
| 04:45.23 | Wobin_ | Alas |
| 04:45.29 | Wobin_ | I got in the queue for a bit earlier today |
| 04:45.45 | Wobin_ | but any further attempts have met with failure =( |
| 04:45.45 | Cairenn | well, that's a step in the right direction, at lease |
| 04:45.49 | Cairenn | least* |
| 04:46.12 | Wobin_ | True... |
| 04:46.21 | Wobin_ | If only it happened more than once a week though =) |
| 04:46.35 | Cairenn | it's further than you've managed thus far ... |
| 04:46.48 | Wobin_ | Indeed =) |
| 04:47.48 | Wobin_ | I just wish I could figure out just where the problem lies |
| 04:47.58 | Cairenn | yeah =/ |
| 04:48.13 | futrtrubl | with Blizzards policy |
| 04:48.27 | Cairenn | I can't believe you were such a dodo head as to not check for your CDs first though ;) |
| 04:49.15 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 04:49.27 | Wobin_ | I had this thought I'd copied them to this laptop |
| 04:49.40 | Wobin_ | Except it was the -old- laptop I had them on =P |
| 04:50.02 | Cairenn | as I said .. dodohead |
| 04:50.14 | Cairenn | ;) |
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| 04:51.34 | Wob | Watch out for those giant Anubi |
| 04:51.36 | Tem|AQ | Anyone here been in AQ20 yet? |
| 04:51.44 | Wob | I hear the first step (on you) is a doozy |
| 04:51.55 | Shadowd | Kill stuff before you die basically |
| 04:52.34 | Tem|AQ | Theres this event that you have some npcs to help you with |
| 04:52.44 | Tem|AQ | but... they died |
| 04:52.50 | Tem|AQ | so... we're boned |
| 04:52.59 | Shadowd | 30 minute soft reset? |
| 04:53.33 | Tem|AQ | about to try that |
| 05:00.20 | futrtrubl | g'night all |
| 05:00.59 | Cairenn | night futr-sleep |
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| 05:07.15 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 05:07.26 | Codayus | The boats are no longer going to Kalimdor. |
| 05:07.40 | Codayus | They leave Booty Bay, sail out a ways, stop for a few minutes...then sail back. |
| 05:08.34 | Codayus | World Server...Down. Hmmm. ZOMG, I can't escape the continent! |
| 05:08.45 | Wob | They've issued a Quarantine on Kalimdor =) |
| 05:09.00 | Codayus | And it keeps crashing. |
| 05:10.08 | Codayus | Since the world server crahsed with me on a boat in the middle of the ocean...wonder where I'll be when it comes back up? And whether I'll be living... |
| 05:13.59 | Guillotine | but its night time... |
| 05:14.08 | Osagasu | The Link spoofing code isn't fixed in 1.10 |
| 05:14.08 | Guillotine | that guy doesn't know the difference between AM and PM |
| 05:14.10 | Osagasu | err |
| 05:14.11 | Osagasu | 1.9 |
| 05:14.20 | Guillotine | Osagasu: noone ever said it was |
| 05:14.22 | Guillotine | its fixed in 1.10 |
| 05:14.26 | Kremonte | mmm |
| 05:14.31 | Kremonte | did i see link spoofing somewhere |
| 05:14.32 | Kremonte | :] |
| 05:14.35 | Osagasu | People were saying the other day they thought it was |
| 05:14.39 | Kremonte | hey Guillotine, want a minor spoofer update? |
| 05:14.46 | Osagasu | I just saw it in a mara group |
| 05:14.47 | Osagasu | :P |
| 05:15.05 | Cairenn | Osagasu: and how would you know that it isn't fixed for 1.10? |
| 05:15.14 | Guillotine | it was a typo |
| 05:15.17 | Cairenn | bah, nm |
| 05:15.19 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 05:15.19 | Guillotine | he meant 1.9 |
| 05:15.27 | Guillotine | Kremonte: and what is that update? |
| 05:15.31 | Kremonte | PM ;) |
| 05:15.35 | Cairenn | it poofs in 1.10 |
| 05:16.57 | Osagasu | I still want that spoofer |
| 05:17.07 | Wob | write it then =P |
| 05:17.15 | Cairenn | so go download it from CG :p |
| 05:17.22 | Osagasu | CG? |
| 05:17.24 | Osagasu | o.o |
| 05:17.24 | Shadowd | Curse-gaming |
| 05:17.25 | Wob | curse |
| 05:17.26 | Osagasu | oh |
| 05:17.30 | Kremonte | that one sucks though |
| 05:17.31 | Kremonte | :} |
| 05:17.32 | Cairenn | but don't be surprised if you get a warning |
| 05:17.46 | Shadowd | It looks like it works though Kremonte :p |
| 05:17.52 | Tain | Or a knock on the front door from a large man named Sal. |
| 05:17.58 | Cairenn | lol Tain |
| 05:17.59 | Kremonte | Shadowd: pfft |
| 05:18.22 | Wob | *knockknock* Who's there? Hired Goons. |
| 05:19.53 | Guillotine | as long as you pretend you're just linking something you saw in your lootlink, you're ok with GM's |
| 05:20.00 | Guillotine | can't be punished for relinking something... |
| 05:20.04 | Guillotine | hehe. j/k |
| 05:20.12 | Guillotine | as long as you don't do anything offensive, you're fine |
| 05:21.40 | Osagasu | I just got someone linking "Chuck Norris' Darkmoon Card: Twisting Nether of a roundhouse kick to your face" |
| 05:21.56 | Shadowd | At least they could be original |
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| 05:23.15 | Cairenn | well, someone *in this channel* actually saw with their own eyes a GM warning for someone to stop abusing the api |
| 05:23.57 | Cairenn | the usual "my friend's brother's cousin's gf's little brother" doesn't wash with me, you know that ... but someone in this channel? that I'm more inclined to believe |
| 05:24.55 | Kremonte | Cairenn: huh? |
| 05:25.07 | Cairenn | Cairenn: but don't be surprised if you get a warning |
| 05:25.26 | Kremonte | well of course |
| 05:25.32 | Kremonte | {n}{c=e071df}<GM>[Ooogaboooga| whispers: YOU ARE BANNED! GOODBYE |
| 05:25.37 | Kremonte | now i would never do that :} |
| 05:30.50 | Kremonte | wow |
| 05:30.56 | Kremonte | already one of my guildies got the best caster ring in the game |
| 05:32.00 | Codayus | ? |
| 05:32.18 | Kremonte | ritssyn's ring of choas |
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| 05:37.40 | Cairenn | someone verify I got this correct, please? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=322870 |
| 05:38.28 | Shadowd | Though it was said that it's just something left over that they never fixed? |
| 05:39.56 | Cairenn | nope, it's deliberate |
| 05:41.07 | Cairenn | I may not have it worded quite properly (hence my asking someone else to verify how I worded it), but it is deliberate |
| 05:44.21 | Iriel|NotHere | You are indeed correct |
| 05:45.34 | futr-sleep | so a newline will be stripped from any editbox and not just chat? |
| 05:45.55 | Cairenn | thanks iriel :) |
| 05:45.55 | iriel | No, a newline will get you disconnected if sent in chat |
| 05:46.18 | iriel | If you type \n into the edit box, that's a literal \n ("\\n" in a lua string) |
| 05:46.27 | iriel | Why that gets you disconnected is overzealous filtering in the server |
| 05:46.27 | futr-sleep | he wasn't talking about being disconnected |
| 05:46.52 | futr-sleep | he was saying newlines get stripped when pasted into editboxes |
| 05:49.54 | iriel | I'm editing my response to be a bit more detailed 8-) |
| 05:50.07 | Kremonte | oh i get it |
| 05:50.24 | Kremonte | if you have "abc<br>defg" in html, copy the stuff out (abc\ndefg), it shows in chat as abcdefg |
| 05:50.25 | Guillotine | kremonte just found a way around that... |
| 05:50.27 | Kremonte | wierd. |
| 05:50.33 | Kremonte | around what? |
| 05:50.42 | Guillotine | it getting rid of linespaces |
| 05:50.56 | Kremonte | eh? say it then lol |
| 05:51.15 | Guillotine | the thing that its possible inside links... |
| 05:51.19 | Kremonte | lol |
| 05:51.23 | Guillotine | {n} in the addon |
| 05:51.28 | Kremonte | duh |
| 05:51.31 | Kremonte | we're not talkin about exploiting |
| 05:51.44 | Kremonte | they still haven't fixed the 2x Miscellaneous in engineering :| |
| 05:51.45 | iriel | I'm not sure which editbox he pasted into |
| 05:51.52 | iriel | there are 2 types |
| 05:51.53 | Kremonte | chat frame edit box |
| 05:51.55 | iriel | those that are single line, and those that are multiline |
| 05:52.04 | iriel | the chat frame one is not multiline |
| 05:52.10 | Kremonte | oh, i see |
| 05:57.00 | Kremonte | hm |
| 05:57.23 | Kremonte | linkerator keeps a database huh |
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| 06:08.15 | zespri|log | Iriel, do you know what is "Item Level" displayed by thottbot as oposed to "Required Level" (this is one that we see in the tooltips)? |
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| 06:12.40 | Corrodias | i beleive they are equal. |
| 06:12.58 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.04 | Wobin_ | There are plenty of level 65 items |
| 06:13.16 | Corrodias | ah |
| 06:13.18 | iriel | There's a difference |
| 06:13.22 | iriel | but it's fixed, I think |
| 06:13.28 | iriel | I'm trying to find slouken's post about it |
| 06:13.29 | Wobin_ | http://www.thottbot.com/?i=52964 |
| 06:13.33 | Wobin_ | is a 73 item |
| 06:13.41 | Kremonte | level of the enemy that drops? |
| 06:13.47 | iriel | No. The item level is typically 5 levels higher than the required level, which is already returned. |
| 06:13.50 | iriel | That's his quote |
| 06:14.18 | Kremonte | why won't this work? |
| 06:14.19 | Kremonte | ItemRefSetLinkOLD = ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink |
| 06:14.27 | iriel | Because you did : and not . |
| 06:14.40 | Kremonte | ahhh |
| 06:14.47 | Kremonte | classes, those silly things. thanks |
| 06:14.50 | iriel | : is only valid when calling things |
| 06:15.53 | Cairenn | mayhap it's something like back in EQ ... there is a "required" level that you absolutely must be, and then there is a "recommended" level whereafter you get max benefit from the item |
| 06:16.22 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.10 | Cairenn | that's pure supposition |
| 06:17.38 | futr-sleep | Itemlvl has to do with the enchants/armor patches that can be aplied |
| 06:18.28 | Kremonte | http://wow.pastebin.com/563953 |
| 06:18.32 | Kremonte | why won't that work :-( |
| 06:18.40 | Kremonte | saying invalid use of SetHyperlink() |
| 06:18.49 | iriel | you forgot to pass self |
| 06:18.55 | Kremonte | huh? |
| 06:18.59 | iriel | You need ItemRefSetLinkOLD(self, link) |
| 06:19.06 | iriel | And you need function ItemRefSetLinkNEW(self, link) |
| 06:19.14 | iriel | And you should call self:IsVisible(), etc |
| 06:19.32 | iriel | You hooked a method, but forgot about self |
| 06:19.36 | Kremonte | i don't get it :S |
| 06:19.42 | Kremonte | i really don't understand methods and whatnot |
| 06:19.44 | Guillotine___ | g2g guys. ttyl |
| 06:19.47 | Kremonte | see yah |
| 06:20.01 | iriel | When you do X:Method(A) |
| 06:20.06 | iriel | Lua actually calls |
| 06:20.12 | iriel | X.Method(X,A) |
| 06:20.13 | futr-sleep | if you can call a func with :func() then it expects it's first argument to be self |
| 06:20.35 | iriel | http://wow.pastebin.com/563956 |
| 06:20.36 | Tain | I decided that "Saw" is a stupid ass movie. |
| 06:20.39 | Kremonte | so how do i do ItemRefSetLinkOLD(self, link)? |
| 06:20.41 | Kremonte | mm |
| 06:20.43 | iriel | That's how it should look |
| 06:20.47 | Kremonte | thanks |
| 06:22.01 | Kremonte | woohoo, it works now |
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| 06:43.09 | zespri|log | Iriel, no required level will give 73 if you add 5 to it... I'm confused |
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| 07:22.32 | Shadowd | Any suggestions on what can be done to get permission from an author? They havn't updated in about 7-8 months, have some bits of copyright on the header of the lua/xml file and no method of contacting them. |
| 07:22.54 | Cairenn | who's the author / what's the mod? |
| 07:24.19 | Shadowd | TargetOfTarget (http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1161). |
| 07:24.37 | Shadowd | er http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=1161 |
| 07:25.51 | Cairenn | send him a PM on WoWI: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=3988 |
| 07:26.06 | Cairenn | click his name by "author" , then hit PM |
| 07:26.13 | Shadowd | Thanks |
| 07:26.25 | Cairenn | whether he'll respond or not ... /shrug |
| 07:26.32 | Shadowd | Yeah, i'm guessing he wont respond :/ |
| 07:26.56 | Cairenn | I need to go through and prune again soon |
| 07:27.07 | Cairenn | his will be included |
| 07:27.55 | Shadowd | It works fine for 1.9 just a small issue with hunter pets and raids if they have duplicate names. He just has about 2,600 lines of code and i'm not sure what 90% of it's for. |
| 07:30.58 | Shadowd | Oh well, sent PM. Hopfully he'll respond |
| 07:42.13 | Cairenn | Shadowd: if he is no longer going to be maintaining it, are you wanting to take it over? |
| 07:42.48 | Shadowd | Well, I'm not exactly taking over what he has. I basically grabbed most of the XML and pulled some of the logic out of the LUA. |
| 07:43.28 | Cairenn | okay, was just curious ... if you ever take over a mod, have the original author send one of the WoWI staff a PM, authorizing us to put it in your name |
| 07:43.51 | Shadowd | Alright, chances are i'll submit it as a new addon if he gives permission |
| 07:44.25 | Corrodias | and if he doesn't? |
| 07:44.46 | Shadowd | Then i'll just keep using it for myself |
| 07:45.02 | Shadowd | Mostly did it so I have something else to play around with, just couldn't understand his code. |
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| 08:04.52 | id` | Cairenn|sleep, purl, nn |
| 08:04.56 | id` | .. |
| 08:05.00 | id` | purl: nn |
| 08:05.02 | purl | nini |
| 08:05.04 | id` | ^^ |
| 08:05.21 | [MoonWolf] | hehe |
| 08:05.31 | id` | morning moon |
| 08:05.37 | [MoonWolf] | morning |
| 08:05.47 | id` | ga vrijdag weer op wintersport :P |
| 08:05.55 | id` | 2e keer :D |
| 08:06.02 | [MoonWolf] | Eikel... |
| 08:06.07 | [MoonWolf] | Ik ga mijn kamer verven. |
| 08:06.19 | id` | Ik werk er wel voor hoor :P |
| 08:08.16 | [MoonWolf] | skies of snowboard ? |
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| 10:30.24 | id` | http://orlyowl.com/upload/files/!NUB_LOL.jpg |
| 10:30.26 | id` | AWWWWW |
| 10:30.30 | id` | CUUUUUUUTEEEEEEE |
| 10:30.38 | id` | ^__________________________^ |
| 10:31.37 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 10:38.53 | Wobin_ | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8045498200799857981&q=WoW |
| 10:46.12 | id` | woah |
| 10:46.14 | id` | nice |
| 10:47.04 | Wobin_ | I wonder how they triggered it |
| 10:47.14 | Wobin_ | one of the guys is afk, so it must be some coded method =P |
| 10:47.29 | Wobin_ | (And now I'm listening to the whole Michael Jackson Best of =P) |
| 10:48.02 | zespri|log | I think it's this item that makes you dance |
| 10:48.12 | Wobin_ | oh the flute |
| 10:48.18 | zespri|log | yeah |
| 10:48.18 | Wobin_ | or pipes or whatever |
| 10:48.29 | Wobin_ | Does it work so perfectly? |
| 10:49.01 | zespri|log | I wouldn be surprised. You cast it it affect everybody at the same time |
| 10:49.32 | id` | cool :p |
| 11:02.43 | Codayus | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=7196714&p=1&tmp=1#post7196714 |
| 11:02.54 | Codayus | I should stop looking at the general forums. |
| 11:03.19 | Codayus | They appear to have an AoE int debuff effect. |
| 11:05.09 | Wobin_ | Blizzard really needs to have custom avatars of the actual poster's faces |
| 11:05.42 | Wobin_ | Having intelligent conversation come from the seemingly same avatar as the most idiotic is confusing =P |
| 11:28.11 | id` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7194325320504854395&q=WoW+pvp |
| 11:28.16 | id` | sickest shit i have _ever_ seen |
| 11:28.23 | id` | 5k crits |
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| 12:04.30 | id` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3886014257029030214&q=WoW+pvp |
| 12:04.32 | id` | 7k crit |
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| 13:05.23 | [MoonWolf] | Good afternoon mortals |
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| 13:21.28 | id` | Mondinga: |
| 13:21.36 | id` | [MoonWolf]: * |
| 13:21.49 | id` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7194325320504854395&q=WoW+pvp |
| 13:21.58 | id` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3886014257029030214&q=WoW+pvp |
| 13:22.02 | id` | feck'n mages |
| 13:24.19 | [MoonWolf] | that guy has nice armor |
| 13:25.38 | [MoonWolf] | also , h has a baron mount |
| 13:25.53 | id` | look at what he does |
| 13:25.56 | id` | hes rank 14 |
| 13:26.06 | id` | S I C K |
| 13:26.07 | id` | :P |
| 13:26.32 | [MoonWolf] | is that hwo rank 14 mage armor looks |
| 13:26.34 | [MoonWolf] | COOL! |
| 13:26.43 | id` | I hit for like 20-40 |
| 13:26.51 | id` | that bitch hits 7k! |
| 13:26.53 | id` | :P |
| 13:27.34 | [MoonWolf] | he is a pvp only mage though |
| 13:27.47 | [MoonWolf] | arcane fire build is not getting into most high end guilds |
| 13:28.01 | id` | yep |
| 13:30.20 | [MoonWolf] | I wonder how high he could crit with trinkets, and negative resistances on his target... |
| 13:30.49 | Wob | I thought negative resists weren't possible anymore? |
| 13:30.58 | Wob | Or was that just specifically for certain spells |
| 13:30.59 | [MoonWolf] | i mean when they still were |
| 13:31.26 | id` | she hits for 120 though |
| 13:31.27 | id` | :D |
| 13:32.08 | [MoonWolf] | so does a lvl 21 hunter |
| 13:32.12 | [MoonWolf] | from range |
| 13:32.26 | id` | no i mean normal hits |
| 13:32.34 | id` | no action, just meelee |
| 13:32.47 | [MoonWolf] | damn |
| 13:32.48 | id` | i get like 400-500 crits :P |
| 13:32.53 | id` | keke |
| 13:32.54 | [MoonWolf] | that IS nice |
| 13:33.07 | id` | ya got that 2h hammer from DM |
| 13:33.23 | id` | ill take shots ^^ |
| 13:34.37 | Wob | Oh |
| 13:34.44 | Wob | For a minute I read that as Dire Maul =P |
| 13:34.47 | id` | no wait, i lied about the crits |
| 13:34.51 | Wob | But you mean Mr Smite's hammer =) |
| 13:34.59 | id` | lol no Deadmines |
| 13:34.59 | id` | yes |
| 13:35.03 | id` | 237 crit* |
| 13:35.10 | id` | :> |
| 13:35.57 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/WoWScrnShot_021906_221459.jpg |
| 13:35.59 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/ |
| 13:36.01 | id` | :P |
| 13:36.18 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/WoWScrnShot_021706_214037.jpg |
| 13:36.20 | id` | lol @ chat |
| 13:36.25 | id` | that's what you get on EU servers |
| 13:39.30 | [MoonWolf] | brb shower |
| 13:39.52 | Wob | meh |
| 13:40.01 | Wob | I so want to get working on my needylist replacement |
| 13:40.09 | id` | whats needylist? |
| 13:40.10 | id` | ^^ |
| 13:40.29 | Wob | my favourite healer mod |
| 13:40.39 | Wob | with Aceheal tied in naturally |
| 13:41.07 | Wob | shows an ordered list of your partymembers in terms of who needs heals/buffs/decursing/etc |
| 13:41.15 | Wob | and you click to cast the appropriate spell |
| 13:43.30 | id` | ic |
| 13:43.41 | id` | and aceheal does? |
| 13:43.52 | id` | (im not a helaer, so i donteven look at those mode) |
| 13:43.54 | id` | mods* |
| 13:43.57 | id` | addons** |
| 13:44.41 | Wob | selects the best heal for the amount required |
| 13:44.43 | Wob | on click |
| 13:44.55 | id` | nice |
| 13:44.58 | Wob | tis =) |
| 13:45.49 | id` | per spell or does it choose the spell (heal/heal-over-time) |
| 13:45.57 | id` | goess per spell |
| 13:45.58 | id` | :P |
| 13:46.00 | id` | guess* |
| 13:46.03 | Wob | yeah |
| 13:46.05 | Wob | kinda |
| 13:46.17 | Wob | you setup for normal/quick/instant spelltypes |
| 13:46.20 | id` | ive been meaning to try out a healer class... hmm.. |
| 13:46.21 | Wob | to differnt mousekeys |
| 13:46.53 | Wob | I usually have normal bound to left, quick to right, instant hot to middle and shield to alt-left or something |
| 13:47.54 | Wob | yes, well some people are overcompensating =P |
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| 13:48.04 | id` | ^^ |
| 13:48.18 | id` | i broke my middle one though |
| 13:48.22 | id` | (mouse3) |
| 13:48.33 | id` | used it too much in FF to open stuff in tabs :( |
| 13:48.41 | Wob | heres an NICE idea for someone to make a TravelMusic type addon but for rogues and propably druids too, that when we go into stealth it turns on Mission Impossible theme... |
| 13:48.46 | Wob | hehe what a great idea =) |
| 13:48.56 | id` | nooo |
| 13:49.00 | Wob | Dun dun dundun dun dun dundun |
| 13:49.00 | id` | not mission imossible |
| 13:49.07 | id` | pink panther! |
| 13:49.13 | [MoonWolf] | jaws theme |
| 13:49.14 | Wob | pfeh =P |
| 13:49.20 | id` | dum dum, dum dum, dum dum dum dum dum dum tah tah TAH TAHHHHH |
| 13:49.28 | id` | :D |
| 13:49.39 | Wob | The problem with Jaws theme is if you stick around in stealth too long =P |
| 13:49.50 | Wob | You hit the climax.... and you're still stealthed =) |
| 13:50.00 | [MoonWolf] | yeah, okay. but still |
| 13:50.08 | [MoonWolf] | really going now |
| 13:50.12 | id` | tam tam tam, tam tam tam tam, TAM TAM TAM |
| 13:50.20 | id` | haha fun |
| 13:54.55 | ckknight | where's the giant list of strings that are provided by WoW? |
| 13:55.03 | ckknight | can't find it on wowwiki, but I've seen it there before |
| 13:55.11 | Wob | list of strings? |
| 13:55.17 | ckknight | yea |
| 13:55.19 | Wob | for languageisation? |
| 13:55.23 | ckknight | it's a list of strings localized for the client |
| 13:55.27 | Wob | (man, I'm so tired =P) |
| 13:55.31 | ckknight | localization |
| 13:55.35 | Wob | ta =P |
| 13:55.38 | id` | languageisation ^^ |
| 13:55.42 | ckknight | if you ever don't know how to spell that, say l10n or i18n |
| 13:56.20 | Wob | Oh I knew how to spell it, just couldn't remember the word =P |
| 13:56.48 | ckknight | it's either localization or internationalization |
| 13:58.06 | Wob | http://www.wowwiki.com/Localization_Info |
| 13:58.13 | ckknight | thanks |
| 13:58.49 | Wob | That's only zones though it appears |
| 13:59.15 | ckknight | I've seen a ginormous list of constants before |
| 14:00.43 | ckknight | got it: http://www.wowwiki.com/WoW_Constants |
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| 14:05.43 | Legorol^ | what you are looking for is GlobalStrings.lua, part of the default Blizz UI |
| 14:05.55 | Legorol^ | use the Blizz toolkit to extract the default UI and find it in there |
| 14:06.01 | Legorol^ | the wiki is likely not up-to-date |
| 14:07.49 | ckknight | cool, you're a pimp |
| 14:08.47 | id` | -_^ |
| 14:10.14 | ckknight | aw, there isn't one that has "The Horde flag has been picked up by %s!" |
| 14:11.44 | Wob | hm |
| 14:11.53 | Wob | Anyone play a warrior here? Id? |
| 14:12.11 | ckknight | sorry, Druid |
| 14:12.11 | id` | me |
| 14:12.22 | Wob | I understand that rage generation occurs when you hit and are hit, right? |
| 14:12.24 | id` | 21 warrior, 23 warlock |
| 14:12.28 | id` | yes |
| 14:12.37 | id` | less when you are hit |
| 14:12.41 | Wob | How does PW:Shield affect the getting hit rage gen? |
| 14:12.55 | id` | its still a hit |
| 14:12.58 | id` | just on the shield |
| 14:13.02 | Wob | So you still generate rage |
| 14:13.04 | id` | yes |
| 14:13.07 | Wob | good good |
| 14:13.30 | id` | seems logical ;) |
| 14:40.11 | Wob | Tem: Satellite? |
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| 14:47.57 | Tem | Wob: Satelite is something I want to do |
| 14:48.04 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.23 | Wob | Ah =) |
| 14:48.28 | Wob | Cause it's a very cool concept =) |
| 14:48.43 | Wob | (and very much needed for Ace) |
| 14:49.51 | ckknight | what's Satellite? |
| 14:50.09 | Wob | Something similar to Sky |
| 14:50.19 | ckknight | what was Sky? |
| 14:50.20 | Wob | interclient transmission |
| 14:50.24 | ckknight | ah |
| 14:50.34 | ckknight | I'd be interested in that |
| 14:51.37 | ckknight | I like making libraries |
| 14:53.05 | ckknight | why not call it something simple, though |
| 14:53.14 | ckknight | like AceCommunication |
| 14:53.21 | ckknight | or whatever |
| 14:53.21 | Wob | Because that's boring |
| 14:53.22 | Tem | no |
| 14:53.26 | Tem | not going to happen |
| 14:53.40 | ckknight | why not? |
| 14:53.45 | ckknight | I find simplicity to be beautiful |
| 14:53.48 | Tem | because #1 |
| 14:53.50 | Wob | I'm more for witty addon names than boring ones |
| 14:53.58 | ckknight | of course, if it's independent of Ace, then it's cool |
| 14:53.58 | Tem | I HATE names that are *Ace* |
| 14:54.08 | ckknight | but it's a library! |
| 14:54.14 | Wob | So? =P |
| 14:54.19 | Tem | But I don't care |
| 14:54.27 | Tem | and #2, I hate names like that |
| 14:54.33 | Beladona | addon names don't matter half as much as the addon itself. People will remember the name regardless if the addon is good |
| 14:54.53 | Wob | And if the name is an interesting one, they're likely to keep it in mind also |
| 14:55.03 | ckknight | yea, yea a rose by any other name would smell as sweet |
| 14:55.09 | Beladona | I disagree |
| 14:55.29 | Beladona | there are plenty of addons out there I have seen that never stick in my mind |
| 14:55.30 | ckknight | I guess if you call em stinkblossoms</simpsons> |
| 14:55.37 | Beladona | except the ones that I use |
| 14:55.41 | Beladona | or have used |
| 14:55.46 | Ktron | yeah, but giving the one you love a handful of "OMGZT3HSMELLZORS!' probably wouldn't work out so well |
| 14:55.50 | Wob | Anyway, for whatever I'm coding, I'd prefer to be looking constantly (and using variable names) with a name that amuses me, rather than a boring one |
| 14:56.03 | Wob | eg Mr Plow |
| 14:56.12 | Beladona | I am the exact opposite |
| 14:56.13 | ckknight | I think Mr. Plow was stupid, technically |
| 14:56.16 | Beladona | I for for function over form |
| 14:56.17 | ckknight | and I hated it talking to me |
| 14:56.20 | ckknight | just do the damn job |
| 14:56.26 | ckknight | stop with the simpsons references |
| 14:56.30 | ckknight | so I stopped using it |
| 14:56.38 | Wob | Good for you =) |
| 14:56.39 | ckknight | I agree, Beladona |
| 14:56.46 | Wob | I'm glad you asserted yourself. |
| 14:58.05 | Beladona | wdnExpBarMod |
| 14:58.10 | Beladona | is that an itneresting name for you? |
| 14:58.16 | Tem | well.. |
| 14:58.21 | Wob | wdn? |
| 14:58.24 | Tem | for my unreleased stuff it's pretty normal |
| 14:58.25 | Beladona | not many people would recognize that immediately |
| 14:58.32 | Tem | "TardTweaks" |
| 14:58.33 | ckknight | um, is it an Experience bar or what? |
| 14:58.35 | Beladona | but it makes "sense" to me |
| 14:58.36 | Tem | "TardUnitFrames" |
| 14:58.42 | Tem | "TardBuffFrame" |
| 14:58.43 | Beladona | so that is what I use |
| 14:58.43 | Tem | ect... |
| 14:58.48 | ckknight | etc |
| 14:59.14 | Beladona | guess I could make it fancier |
| 14:59.18 | Beladona | but why? |
| 14:59.25 | Beladona | most people will only care that it does as advertised |
| 14:59.33 | Wob | No one said you had to =) |
| 14:59.34 | ckknight | yea |
| 14:59.51 | Wob | This whole conversation is about personal naming preferences =) |
| 14:59.56 | Beladona | I know |
| 15:00.21 | Beladona | just saying, as far as users are concerned, you can call it genitalherpes, and they will still only remember it if its something useful to them |
| 15:00.37 | Wob | I dunno. I'd definitely recall an addon named GenitalHerpes |
| 15:00.49 | Beladona | a year from now? |
| 15:00.51 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/stuff/siggys-060220/ |
| 15:00.52 | id` | :P |
| 15:00.55 | id` | beware |
| 15:00.56 | Wob | If, for only hoping it didn't do as advertised =P |
| 15:00.56 | id` | :D |
| 15:01.03 | Ktron | I think all addons should end with 'ftw'... aceftw, flexbarftw, opiumftw... |
| 15:01.13 | ckknight | having addons that are just the names of STDs would be interesting |
| 15:01.23 | Wob | Careful Ktron, that way leads to Orly suffixes =P |
| 15:01.39 | Tem | My personal preference for addon naming is a name that will interest a user to say "what does that do?" |
| 15:01.45 | Ktron | orly suffixes are to be used for 2.0 releases |
| 15:01.52 | Tem | but makes complete sense once the user knows what the addon does |
| 15:01.55 | Wob | "So, what addons do you have?" "Well, I contracted GentialHerpes, and the Clap..." |
| 15:02.00 | Tem | For example: Satellite |
| 15:02.13 | Ktron | aceftw --> aceorly --> aceomg --> acepwnsu |
| 15:02.20 | Tem | lol |
| 15:02.20 | Beladona | suffixes, in my opinion should only be used to tie several addons together, like in the caase of CTmod |
| 15:02.26 | Wob | Aceroflcopter |
| 15:02.39 | Tem | acerofflehouse |
| 15:02.45 | Beladona | back soon |
| 15:02.46 | ckknight | rofl kartoffle |
| 15:02.47 | Wob | Acelollerskates |
| 15:02.47 | Ktron | and finally, acelmaonade |
| 15:02.59 | Tem | lol, good stuff |
| 15:03.11 | krka|work | boring names FTW |
| 15:03.20 | krka|work | i am the master of boring and descriptive names! |
| 15:03.21 | Wob | no no |
| 15:03.28 | Wob | Boring names For The Win |
| 15:03.58 | krka|work | Bela|AFK, isn't CTmod an example of prefixes, not suffixes? :) |
| 15:04.20 | Tem | don't play Bill Clinton |
| 15:04.23 | Tem | it's not cool |
| 15:04.37 | Wob | I guess an example for that would be FuBar, with ClockFu, BankFu etc |
| 15:04.53 | id` | My personal preference for addon naming is a name that will exactly say what it is. |
| 15:05.03 | Tem | Well.... |
| 15:05.08 | Tem | all my released addons do that |
| 15:05.10 | Wob | ..With 'id' tacked on somewhere =) |
| 15:05.15 | id` | true |
| 15:05.16 | id` | :p |
| 15:05.22 | id` | idAutoAttack, it attacks! |
| 15:05.25 | id` | for example |
| 15:05.26 | Tem | it's just my 'in progress' stuff that has the cool names |
| 15:05.35 | ckknight | id, can I get idAutoAttack? |
| 15:05.36 | krka|work | my list of addons: RangeMelee, AutoTravel, MapLibrary, TitanSpeed, Game Reactive Action Buttons... very easy to guess what it does |
| 15:05.50 | id` | ckknight: sure |
| 15:05.55 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shouryuu (n=Shouryuu@75.239.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 15:05.56 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 15:06.00 | Tem | ono |
| 15:06.00 | id` | ckknight: be home in 2 hours gotta finish it |
| 15:06.12 | id` | it will have a dep; SPecialEvents |
| 15:06.14 | ckknight | ah, okay |
| 15:06.20 | ckknight | why? |
| 15:06.39 | id` | tee hee |
| 15:06.42 | id` | ^^ |
| 15:06.42 | Shouryuu | hey! |
| 15:06.44 | Shouryuu | bully |
| 15:06.57 | id` | ckknight: because um.. because :X |
| 15:06.59 | Tem | you're the one making the unwanted advances and you call ME the bully? |
| 15:07.07 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 15:07.11 | Shouryuu | you started the ono thing |
| 15:07.14 | Shouryuu | I was expecting the |
| 15:07.25 | Tem | yes I know |
| 15:07.26 | Shouryuu | ono i escared teh rawr, i need a huggle |
| 15:07.30 | Tem | I lured you into my trap |
| 15:07.37 | id` | ckknight: because i wont need an XML frame (tooltip) and i wont have to scan it every time |
| 15:07.41 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 15:08.00 | ckknight | what is there to scan? |
| 15:08.04 | id` | SPECIAL_TARGET_DEBUFF_GAINED |
| 15:08.10 | ckknight | okay |
| 15:08.10 | id` | buffs and debuffs |
| 15:08.15 | ckknight | alright, then |
| 15:08.31 | id` | dont want to break cc's or stuff like bandis instantly :P |
| 15:09.40 | id` | i should put it on wowi, because Retaliate isnt going to be there.. i think... |
| 15:10.14 | krka|work | specialevent handles buffs and stuff? |
| 15:10.29 | id` | more, tekkub made it to 'fix' certain events |
| 15:10.43 | id` | with ace you just registerevent for it and it works like it should ^^ |
| 15:10.52 | Wob | pass more info also, I think |
| 15:11.00 | id` | sometimes yes |
| 15:11.09 | id` | for example the difference between AH mail and MAIL mail |
| 15:11.44 | id` | so you can say, Zee Ohh Myy Gee, ah mail! |
| 15:11.54 | ckknight | it's Emm' |
| 15:12.56 | krka|work | ouch ouch ouch: |
| 15:12.56 | krka|work | function SpecialEventsMovement:OnUpdate() |
| 15:12.56 | krka|work | SetMapToCurrentZone(); |
| 15:13.20 | id` | never said it was pretty :P |
| 15:13.27 | id` | (slap tekkub, btw) |
| 15:13.56 | krka|work | not so much unpretty as it is potentially a performance killer |
| 15:14.16 | krka|work | use specialevents and speedometer at the same time and .... SUFFER |
| 15:14.46 | Wob | speedometer is the one that tracks your speed from the minimap? |
| 15:14.59 | krka|work | no, not minimap |
| 15:15.10 | id` | why would you want to track your speed.. |
| 15:15.15 | Wob | Ah, I'm misrecalling |
| 15:15.17 | id` | you know homuch each buff gives you |
| 15:15.28 | id` | or debuff |
| 15:16.04 | krka|work | it's fun to know! |
| 15:16.28 | krka|work | default runspeed is 6.4 yards/seconds, as a ghost it's 8.0, with mount it's 10.2 |
| 15:16.50 | Shouryuu | Is gello the one who did Flexbar? |
| 15:16.55 | Shouryuu | or was it durhango? |
| 15:17.16 | krka|work | i don't want to know! *covers ears* |
| 15:17.26 | id` | :P |
| 15:17.49 | Wob | Dagar |
| 15:18.32 | krka|work | because flexbars code makes me die a little inside everytime i look at it |
| 15:18.47 | Shouryuu | so you're the one |
| 15:19.23 | Shouryuu|work | rawr out for a bit |
| 15:19.32 | krka|work | the one what? |
| 15:19.50 | krka|work | didn't write it if that's what you mean |
| 15:19.56 | krka|work | just looked at it once |
| 15:20.17 | WobSleep | Night all |
| 15:21.06 | Shouryuu|work | krka no you're the one who didn't like the code... I knew someone here didn't like and I just couldn't rememeber who :p |
| 15:21.23 | WobSleep | I found Flexbar to be horribly bloaty.... |
| 15:21.30 | Shouryuu|work | meh I liked it |
| 15:21.36 | Shouryuu|work | I'm no an expert coder |
| 15:21.39 | WobSleep | Oh I liked it =) |
| 15:21.40 | Tain | I still say Flexbar is better code than a lot of things I've looked at. |
| 15:21.44 | Shouryuu|work | watch my addon and you'll die a tousand times over |
| 15:21.49 | Shouryuu|work | tain - yeah I agree |
| 15:21.55 | Shouryuu|work | and it works very well |
| 15:21.56 | Tain | Mind you I don't run it. |
| 15:22.05 | WobSleep | But when I figured out Visor, I switched to that |
| 15:22.07 | Tain | But I've seen a lot worse. |
| 15:22.11 | Shouryuu|work | I used to, I just don't see the use of it |
| 15:22.27 | Shouryuu|work | I'm more of a keyboard man now, so where the butons are... couldn't care less |
| 15:22.45 | WobSleep | I hate laptop keyboards =( |
| 15:22.49 | Shouryuu|work | lol |
| 15:22.53 | WobSleep | (which is why I'm such a mouser) |
| 15:23.01 | Shouryuu|work | on a laptop? |
| 15:23.04 | WobSleep | yeah |
| 15:23.05 | Shouryuu|work | you use you're touchpad? |
| 15:23.07 | Tain | Flex does what it has to, unfortunatly the nature of actionbuttons means you have to duplicate a lot of existing blizzard code with your own. |
| 15:23.15 | WobSleep | miniopticalusbmouseftw |
| 15:23.21 | Shouryuu|work | haha |
| 15:23.28 | Shouryuu|work | I hate those |
| 15:23.42 | Shouryuu|work | my hand aches after 10 mins of those |
| 15:23.42 | WobSleep | too small? =) |
| 15:23.45 | Shouryuu|work | aye |
| 15:23.49 | Shouryuu|work | I have big hands |
| 15:23.59 | WobSleep | hehe, imagine trying to use the touchpad/mousenipple =P |
| 15:24.22 | Shouryuu|work | I've played with touchpad |
| 15:24.32 | Shouryuu|work | I've acutaly done Starcraft marathons with it |
| 15:24.33 | WobSleep | I have a nice mousepad with one of those gelwristrests |
| 15:24.44 | Shouryuu|work | like 14 hours straight of mousepad |
| 15:24.47 | WobSleep | I just get frustrated with a touchpad =) |
| 15:24.49 | Shouryuu|work | aaahh luicky you |
| 15:24.51 | Shouryuu|work | hehe |
| 15:25.00 | Shouryuu|work | well I really gtg this time :p |
| 15:25.03 | Shouryuu|work | so rawr out |
| 15:25.05 | WobSleep | ditto |
| 15:26.57 | krka|work | well... in flexbar there is stuff like: function healthbelow20 and function healthbelow30 ..... etc |
| 15:27.13 | krka|work | gets annoying to look at all that bloat |
| 15:27.51 | Tem | and instead of using a sloppy event system like flexbar |
| 15:28.00 | Tem | use one like ItemRack's |
| 15:28.37 | ckknight | write me better unit frames |
| 15:28.49 | ckknight | or at least a better BeneCast |
| 15:28.51 | krka|work | i already kind of have a bar mod for authers |
| 15:28.53 | krka|work | authors |
| 15:28.53 | Tem | I'm not touching unitframes |
| 15:28.57 | ckknight | anyone have any ideas? BeneCast is bloated and buggy |
| 15:29.13 | ckknight | but I need the pictures, so stuff like AceHeal doesn't cut it |
| 15:29.20 | krka|work | what does ItemRack do with events? |
| 15:29.29 | krka|work | and what do you mean by sloppy? |
| 15:29.51 | Tem | FB's event system checks a buttload of events |
| 15:30.19 | krka|work | isn't that necessary though? |
| 15:30.21 | Tem | I haven't looked at the internals of ItemRack's yet, but I imagine it's cleaner for a start |
| 15:30.26 | Tain | I do agree that flexbar as too much duplicated code, I just undertand better now why they did it, it's all in an attempt to try to make things easier for users. |
| 15:30.51 | Tem | but, the real thing I'd go for is the interface ItemRack has for events |
| 15:31.00 | Tem | one sec lemme find it... |
| 15:31.17 | Tem | damn, he doesn't have a SS of it up |
| 15:31.44 | Tain | Oh actually you're damn right Tem, I never even thought about using anything like the idea ItemRack does. |
| 15:31.58 | Tain | Make it so you're creating button sets to swap in and out rather than equipment sets. |
| 15:32.06 | Tem | aye |
| 15:32.33 | krka|work | button sets? |
| 15:33.00 | Tem | check out ItemRack |
| 15:33.05 | Tem | it's crazy awesome |
| 15:34.25 | Legorol^ | someone on the US UI called Iriel clueless and said Iriel doesn't know what he is talking about... |
| 15:34.33 | Legorol^ | I think I could've strangled the person |
| 15:35.30 | krka|work | ... |
| 15:35.35 | krka|work | iriel clueless? O_o |
| 15:35.40 | krka|work | link please |
| 15:36.54 | krka|work | man... when i see xml files that are 5000 lines long, it's really disencouraging :/ |
| 15:37.06 | krka|work | like... is that how much you need to do to make a decent gui? |
| 15:38.13 | Tain | A lot. heh |
| 15:38.51 | Tain | Building a GUI in XML for WoW takes a lot of XMl code. |
| 15:38.53 | id` | * Tem is tempted to write a bar mod for authors |
| 15:38.55 | id` | hmmmm |
| 15:38.57 | id` | :P |
| 15:39.37 | Tem | yeah... GUI's suck monkey balls |
| 15:39.48 | krka|work | hopefully it will be easier with 1.10 |
| 15:40.04 | krka|work | first of all, i haven't managed to make my emacs handle xml in any sort of friendly way |
| 15:40.06 | Tain | Someone asked me to add a single button to VisorGUI, and I couldn't help but twitch. |
| 15:40.37 | id` | meh i do websites all day |
| 15:40.39 | Tem | krka|work: honestly |
| 15:40.39 | id` | im used to XML |
| 15:40.44 | Tain | "Please don't make me go into the XML I promise I'll be good!" |
| 15:40.54 | id` | really making a GUI to render the UI wouldnt be hard |
| 15:40.56 | krka|work | yeah |
| 15:41.00 | Tem | Using dynamic Frames to build GUIs completely in lua is going to be REAL hard |
| 15:41.00 | id` | well |
| 15:41.06 | id` | _that_ hard |
| 15:41.09 | Tem | harder than straight XML I would guess |
| 15:41.09 | krka|work | you can't compare using xml for websites and for wow uis |
| 15:41.22 | id` | krka|work: yes i can, it depends on the scheme |
| 15:41.25 | krka|work | i am currently a html monkey... kinda... and that's not hard at all |
| 15:41.29 | Tain | I'm really holding out to see what it looks like in reality, Tem. |
| 15:41.31 | id` | wich is pretty straightforward in WOW UI'd case |
| 15:41.42 | Tem | however, if someone gets a library written that makes it easy.... |
| 15:41.48 | krka|work | Tem, no mindless repetition though |
| 15:41.50 | id` | *cough* aceGUI *cough* |
| 15:41.51 | Tain | Then do it, id. Let us know how you make out. :) |
| 15:41.55 | krka|work | that's what I am getting sick off |
| 15:42.05 | Tem | that's what copy/paste is for! |
| 15:42.14 | krka|work | copy/paste and changing ids manually is a pain |
| 15:42.20 | krka|work | i absolutely hate it |
| 15:42.29 | Tem | lol I usually write scripts to do that |
| 15:42.37 | Tem | lua -i |
| 15:42.50 | Tem | > io.open("temp.txt","w") |
| 15:42.51 | krka|work | yes, but writing scripts also take time |
| 15:43.03 | krka|work | i would still prefer doing it in lua code |
| 15:43.30 | Tain | One thing that I would like is some form of handling virtual templates where you can easily add to something in the template rather than have to replace it entirely if it's a tag that is there already. |
| 15:43.39 | Tem | > for i=1,120 do io.write("\t <<Insert pasted one liner with the ID replaced by i >> \n") end |
| 15:43.43 | Tem | > io.close() |
| 15:43.53 | Tem | > os.exit() |
| 15:44.06 | krka|work | how's pretty much how i generated 1000 lines and 1000 points for autotravel |
| 15:44.18 | Tem | hehe yeah |
| 15:44.43 | Tem | god I miss that |
| 15:44.54 | Tem | I never really used it for actual travel |
| 15:45.12 | Tem | but I had paths going from every graveyard to every instance portal |
| 15:45.14 | krka|work | would be much prettier now with iriels smart lines :) |
| 15:45.35 | krka|work | isn't that "actual travel"? |
| 15:45.41 | Tem | well |
| 15:45.48 | krka|work | i also mostly used it for graveyard walking |
| 15:46.22 | Tem | I mean to say that I never used it for stuff like "run to booty bay" |
| 15:46.22 | Tem | I used it for corpse runs |
| 15:46.22 | krka|work | yesterday i got killed 5-6 times in a row by alliance... that walk sucked (half way through STV) |
| 15:46.33 | Tem | though, the BB run is an EXCELLENT idea now that I think about it |
| 15:46.50 | krka|work | btw, can we still do the "infinite loop to perform lots of stuff"? |
| 15:47.04 | Tem | hmm? |
| 15:47.25 | krka|work | i think previously someone made an infinite loop in order to cast several spells in a row |
| 15:47.40 | krka|work | since the code would be running longer than the cooldown |
| 15:47.41 | Tem | I think you are mistaken |
| 15:47.55 | clad|sick | but its possible. |
| 15:47.55 | krka|work | really? |
| 15:47.55 | clad|sick | hrm |
| 15:47.56 | Corrodias | well, that's an "interesting" method... |
| 15:48.10 | Tem | I think you can cast a spell after a timer |
| 15:48.14 | Tem | with blocking code |
| 15:48.17 | krka|work | not really practical for spells, since it locks up the UI |
| 15:48.17 | Corrodias | does WoW-LUA have the thread library? |
| 15:48.18 | Tem | but not multiple spells |
| 15:48.24 | krka|work | _would_ be practical for corpseruns though |
| 15:48.34 | Tem | yeah |
| 15:48.35 | krka|work | break on arrival or stuck |
| 15:48.44 | krka|work | (or ctrl key being pressed) |
| 15:48.44 | Tem | that's an interesting idea |
| 15:48.55 | Tem | the keystates aren't updated |
| 15:48.58 | Tem | so that doesn't work |
| 15:49.01 | krka|work | ah, ok then |
| 15:49.10 | krka|work | will have to do it with a timer then |
| 15:49.16 | krka|work | maximum 30 sec or something |
| 15:49.18 | Corrodias | because it would be great with the thread library... |
| 15:49.29 | clad|sick | Corridias: thats why its not included =) |
| 15:49.29 | krka|work | no it wouldn't Corrodias :) |
| 15:49.32 | Tem | Corrodias: no wow's lua is completely single threaded |
| 15:49.44 | krka|work | i like that it's threadsafe (since there's only one thread) |
| 15:49.46 | Corrodias | thanks |
| 15:49.50 | clad|sick | you could emulate ghetto threads with coroutines tho |
| 15:49.51 | krka|work | considering thread safety would be a real bitch |
| 15:50.09 | Tem | but we don't have coroutines either |
| 15:50.17 | clad|sick | i know |
| 15:50.19 | clad|sick | =) |
| 15:50.31 | krka|work | we don' |
| 15:50.31 | Tain | But you could emulate coroutines with multiple monkeys with their own typewriters. |
| 15:50.36 | krka|work | t need multithreads |
| 15:50.54 | clad|sick | So my guild is all sorts of dicks.. some rogue applied.. and this is his app., and the response |
| 15:50.54 | clad|sick | http://silent-transcendence.net/node/6139 |
| 15:51.38 | krka|work | i watched my brother play ZG before... and his guild apparently had the rule that the leader rolled "need" on some stuff, and everyone else had to pass |
| 15:51.47 | Corrodias | lmao |
| 15:51.48 | krka|work | and apparently you'd get in trouble if you hit greed |
| 15:52.06 | krka|work | which i totally don't get, since it would be equivalent if anyone rolls need |
| 15:52.21 | Corrodias | my god, how could a bunch of people so noobish manage to sign a guild charter? |
| 15:52.31 | clad|sick | ? |
| 15:53.09 | cladhaire | still sick tho |
| 15:53.23 | Tain | I stand in the middle of major cities and hold up a signs that say, "will sign guild charter for gold." |
| 15:54.20 | Ktron | have you seen the Something Awful page on guilds? |
| 15:54.49 | Ktron | http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3532 first two images, they break me just a little |
| 15:55.52 | Ktron | if you keep flipping through the pages, the stuff on how to use the GM system is pretty funny too |
| 15:57.53 | Bela|AFK | I haveth returnedeth |
| 16:03.50 | Tem | behold! |
| 16:04.09 | Tem | wow jokes crack me up |
| 16:04.23 | Tem | s/wow/world of warcraft/ |
| 16:05.25 | Tem | You might play too much wow if... |
| 16:05.35 | Tem | ... You've ever said "ding" on your birthday |
| 16:05.44 | cladhaire | OMG |
| 16:05.49 | cladhaire | I have a funnier one |
| 16:05.55 | cladhaire | we were at commencement 2004 at SU |
| 16:06.12 | Tem | ... you can't wait until you are 40 so you can ride an animal |
| 16:06.13 | cladhaire | the RoTC guys were being announced as candidates and they all stood up and saluted |
| 16:06.26 | cladhaire | I turned to my friend and said "Ding.. and it looks like they went up in PVP rank too" |
| 16:06.46 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shouryuu (n=Shouryuu@75.239.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 16:06.56 | Tem | hehe |
| 16:06.58 | Tem | oop |
| 16:08.13 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 16:08.26 | Beladona | you know you play wow too much.... |
| 16:08.38 | Shouryuu | ono.. not that.. |
| 16:08.39 | Beladona | if when you go to the store, you only buy purple clothes |
| 16:08.50 | cladhaire | lol |
| 16:09.05 | Shouryuu | when each time you see a movie, and people are fights, you think, fear, shield renew, dot run |
| 16:09.11 | Shouryuu | *fighting |
| 16:09.36 | Shouryuu | sdly enough that happens often for me... |
| 16:10.17 | Beladona | when you use the term LOL in regular conversations |
| 16:10.37 | Ktron | If you're ever said ORLY? in a conversation |
| 16:11.08 | Shouryuu | hah |
| 16:11.10 | Beladona | if you have ever gone hunting, and tried to con something before shooting it |
| 16:11.38 | Shouryuu | sit each time you eat... |
| 16:11.56 | Shouryuu | that;s never happened but it would be too much WoW |
| 16:12.24 | Shouryuu | there's actualy a You know you've been hanging around the UI forums too long when... thread going on |
| 16:12.33 | Ktron | if you have ever thought about boosting your rep with your college, professor, or or organization |
| 16:12.47 | Ktron | If you refer to your homework as 'quests' |
| 16:12.47 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 16:12.52 | Beladona | if you ever stopped a police officer in the street and asked him where the auction house was |
| 16:12.58 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 16:13.14 | Ktron | If you've ever wished you had safe fall |
| 16:13.37 | krka|work | didn't someone actually jump out a window after playing wow? |
| 16:13.59 | Ktron | If when you're asked how you're doing, you answer "I just made 57 and I picked up Devilsaur Leggings" |
| 16:14.13 | krka|work | http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=14551&hed=Youth%E2%80%99s+Death+Linked+to+Game |
| 16:14.44 | Beladona | you've played too much wow, when you think to yourself you wish you could just hearth home |
| 16:14.47 | krka|work | you know you play wow too much... if you have no friends and die a very lonely man |
| 16:15.19 | Shouryuu | bela- that actualy happens |
| 16:15.32 | Beladona | if you refuse to lend someone something, because it is BOP |
| 16:15.45 | krka|work | that makes no sense |
| 16:15.50 | krka|work | BOE would make more sense |
| 16:15.52 | Ktron | You know you play too much World of Warcraft if you expect people who are shorter and greener to be better at science than you are |
| 16:15.57 | Beladona | why? |
| 16:16.02 | Beladona | both would apply |
| 16:16.05 | Beladona | BOP more so |
| 16:16.16 | krka|work | no, you would never _have_ a BOP item, it would be soulbound |
| 16:16.25 | Ktron | You know you play too much World of Warcraft if you think Spock is a blood elf |
| 16:16.29 | Beladona | sigh.... |
| 16:16.45 | Beladona | you know you play too much wow, when you argue about the semantics of BOP vs soulbound |
| 16:16.48 | krka|work | how could you be in a position to lend out an item if it is BOP? :) |
| 16:16.56 | krka|work | that would mean no one has gotten it yet |
| 16:17.11 | krka|work | heh |
| 16:17.11 | Beladona | you win... there, no go back to your hole |
| 16:17.22 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 16:17.55 | Ktron | You know you play too much World of Warcraft when you stay on an IRC channel that talks about the game, so you can be involved with more conversations about World of Warcraft than you could by simply playing the game |
| 16:18.06 | Beladona | you play too much wow, when you ask your friend what the stats are on his new pants |
| 16:18.14 | Beladona | or to link them |
| 16:18.29 | cladhaire | THere's a UI bug where I can't link gucci irl |
| 16:19.27 | Beladona | when you go to the bathroom, you tell your friends, AFL |
| 16:19.27 | Beladona | err AFK |
| 16:20.09 | Ktron | when you are writing a paper, and using acronyms like 'fbofw' and 'ftw' |
| 16:20.14 | Shouryuu | when you fall asleep playing it... |
| 16:20.19 | krka|work | you know you play too much wow... when you avoid getting near indians because they are red to you |
| 16:20.26 | Beladona | you see a bum hanging around downtown, and you accuse him of being a farmer |
| 16:21.06 | Ktron | wouldn't it be you'd accuse rich people of being farmers? |
| 16:21.26 | Tem | yay for 15 v 5 AB matches |
| 16:21.29 | Shouryuu | enough now... |
| 16:21.29 | Beladona | most farmers I have seen aren't wearing top of the line shit |
| 16:21.35 | Beladona | quite the opposite |
| 16:21.42 | Shouryuu | eeenouuggghhhh |
| 16:21.57 | Beladona | whats wrong with you shouryuu? |
| 16:22.17 | Shouryuu | nothing =( |
| 16:22.23 | krka|work | ... when you get puzzled when people say wow in a context that doesn't make sense if interpretered as World of Warcraft |
| 16:22.33 | Beladona | hehe |
| 16:23.02 | Beladona | the microwave dings, and you say "congrats" |
| 16:23.10 | Shouryuu | haha |
| 16:23.10 | krka|work | lol |
| 16:23.37 | Beladona | you ask your boss to nerf your coworkers |
| 16:24.31 | Beladona | when you get cut off on the way to work, and you wish this was a pvp server |
| 16:24.53 | Eraphine|Disco | Anyone here take down Princess Huhuran yet? |
| 16:25.08 | krka|work | no, can't even get to second base |
| 16:25.22 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 16:25.42 | krka|work | oh... it's some instance boss? |
| 16:27.08 | Beladona | this one is more real world than wow, but it applies |
| 16:27.42 | Beladona | you consider selling your car, because you only drive it for 2 hours a day, and you need a faster comptuer to play wow |
| 16:28.47 | Beladona | OMG |
| 16:28.52 | Beladona | this one is funny |
| 16:29.08 | Beladona | Your non-WOW friend does not stop by for a week because he assumed you were asleep, since there were no lights on at your house. |
| 16:29.24 | krka|work | what is this friend you mention? |
| 16:29.33 | krka|work | the concept is alien to me |
| 16:30.10 | Beladona | my friends come over, to play.... |
| 16:30.18 | Beladona | hehe |
| 16:30.53 | Beladona | oh here is one I have actually done before |
| 16:30.58 | Beladona | a long time ago when I played EQ |
| 16:31.04 | Beladona | I was talking to a friend who also played EQ |
| 16:31.21 | Beladona | I was talking to him on the phone, and I had to hang up, so I told him I would send him a tell later |
| 16:31.32 | Beladona | but I meant on the phone |
| 16:31.37 | Beladona | o.0 |
| 16:31.38 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 16:32.09 | Beladona | I like it when people say "Catch ya later" |
| 16:32.21 | Beladona | I always reply "Why, are you going to throw yourself at me" |
| 16:32.34 | Beladona | err, got that backwards, but you know what I mean |
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| 16:35.42 | Beladona | I wonder when they are gonna start pushing 1.10 to test |
| 16:35.54 | krka|work | better to reply with "no, i am not going to throw myself at you" |
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| 16:38.47 | Shouryuu | I want the priest talents :p |
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| 17:06.51 | namxo | hop :) |
| 17:07.32 | Legorol^ | nop |
| 17:09.48 | namxo | it's possible to detect when the mouse is over a frame ? |
| 17:11.09 | namxo | ChatFrame seems do that, the tab show when the mouse is over the frame |
| 17:11.20 | namxo | but i see nothing in the code of ChatFrame.xml/lua |
| 17:12.36 | Tain | put an OnEnter() event for that frame, or constantly cycle GetMouseFocus() |
| 17:13.11 | Tain | GetMouseFocus():GetName() will tell you the name of the frame that the cursor is over, generally. |
| 17:13.57 | namxo | maybe "OnEnter" |
| 17:14.08 | namxo | yeah it's ok |
| 17:14.12 | namxo | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML_User_Interface |
| 17:14.12 | namxo | :D |
| 17:14.17 | id` | :P |
| 17:14.21 | namxo | i will test that ;p |
| 17:14.31 | namxo | i make a personnal addon "cleanUI" |
| 17:14.37 | namxo | remove all frame |
| 17:14.56 | namxo | but chat shown when i receive a whisper or a party/guild message |
| 17:15.02 | namxo | then hide after few seconds |
| 17:15.13 | namxo | no health bar, only voilemortel to know when my life is low |
| 17:15.28 | namxo | and an hack on sct to show number of combo point insted of +1 combo |
| 17:15.39 | namxo | it's will be funny to play like that :) |
| 17:15.46 | namxo | more hard, more real |
| 17:16.09 | namxo | you don't know the mob's health, your exact health |
| 17:16.09 | namxo | etc |
| 17:16.09 | namxo | :) |
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| 17:20.17 | Legorol^ | anyone has a link to a page which has the color (in RGB) of the different qualities? |
| 17:20.21 | Legorol^ | purple, blue, green white |
| 17:21.56 | Beladona | no but that would be useful for wowwiki |
| 17:22.32 | Legorol^ | yah |
| 17:22.45 | Tain | This is what I use. Depsite the fact that it's not in English. |
| 17:22.48 | Tain | http://noz.day-break.net/webcolor/ |
| 17:23.16 | Legorol^ | Tain: that doesn't tell me what the RGB for "green" "purple" etc. in WoW are |
| 17:24.59 | Legorol^ | doesn't anyone have them handy by any chance? |
| 17:25.01 | Legorol^ | meh.. |
| 17:25.05 | Tain | Then I have no idea what you're talking about. |
| 17:25.30 | Legorol^ | about the color of a link for a purple item, say |
| 17:25.30 | Tain | Green is 00FF00 |
| 17:25.43 | Legorol^ | but is that what's used for a "green" item in WoW? |
| 17:25.43 | Tain | or 0, 255, 0 |
| 17:25.52 | Legorol^ | it could be a bit lighter, e.g. 0FFF0F |
| 17:25.56 | Legorol^ | i don't know.. |
| 17:25.58 | Tain | Oh the blizzard default values, ok. |
| 17:26.01 | Legorol^ | yes |
| 17:26.03 | Tain | Nope, don't know. Sorry! |
| 17:27.17 | namxo | take a screen shot |
| 17:27.26 | namxo | and with gimp you will take the rgb color |
| 17:27.51 | Legorol^ | don't have WoW... was hoping someone has the table |
| 17:28.13 | namxo | look screenshot on website |
| 17:28.20 | namxo | thottbot |
| 17:31.33 | Tain | fonts.xml has some defined default font color codes |
| 17:32.00 | Tain | RED_FONT_COLOR_CODE, GREEN_FONT_COLOR_CODE and a few others. But only about 6 in all |
| 17:32.14 | cladhaire | they're all in an array |
| 17:32.25 | cladhaire | ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS |
| 17:32.49 | namxo | i confirm |
| 17:32.53 | namxo | in all form |
| 17:32.54 | namxo | .hex |
| 17:32.57 | namxo | or .r .g .b |
| 17:33.19 | namxo | [1] = cffffffff |
| 17:33.30 | namxo | [2] = cff1eff00 |
| 17:33.45 | cladhaire | for k,v in pairs(ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS) do DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(v.hex.."Item Quality") end |
| 17:33.47 | namxo | [3] = cff0070dd |
| 17:34.03 | namxo | [4] = cffa335ee |
| 17:34.06 | namxo | he didn't have wow cladhaire |
| 17:34.10 | cladhaire | oh |
| 17:34.12 | cladhaire | sorry =) |
| 17:34.17 | namxo | [5] = cffff8000 |
| 17:34.27 | namxo | [6] = cffe6cc80 |
| 17:34.34 | Legorol^ | thanky! |
| 17:34.41 | namxo | [-1] = cffffffff (i dunno what's this ?) |
| 17:34.44 | Legorol^ | in the meantime i realiesd i'm a dufus, as i can just use GetItemQualityColor() |
| 17:34.48 | namxo | put | before all cff :) |
| 17:34.54 | namxo | lol |
| 17:34.55 | Legorol^ | yarr |
| 17:35.01 | namxo | hum they're also : |
| 17:35.10 | namxo | [0] = cff9d9d9d |
| 17:35.16 | Legorol^ | that's grey |
| 17:35.20 | Beladona | that isn't an accurate way of doing it namxo |
| 17:35.33 | namxo | sorry Beladona ? |
| 17:35.40 | Legorol^ | Beladona: i just needed the hex codes, forgot GetItemQualityColor returns them :D |
| 17:35.46 | Beladona | taking a screenshot isn't necessarily right |
| 17:35.54 | Beladona | gamma setting can affect it |
| 17:36.00 | namxo | ok :p |
| 17:36.04 | Legorol^ | in fact, it's even better it has the |c since i will be using it for link spoo.. *cough* ... crafting |
| 17:36.12 | Beladona | therfore it can be slightly different per computer |
| 17:36.13 | namxo | i've do that for channel color (guild, raid, party) |
| 17:36.14 | namxo | ;p |
| 17:36.33 | Legorol^ | just teasing |
| 17:36.34 | Beladona | aren't they somewhere in the lua? |
| 17:36.45 | Beladona | or has anyone checked |
| 17:36.54 | Legorol^ | yah, UIParent shoves all the return values from GetItemQualityColor into ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS |
| 17:36.59 | Legorol^ | it used to be hardcoded in the .lua |
| 17:37.08 | namxo | it's hard to stop the tab shown when you hide the channel :( |
| 17:37.12 | Legorol^ | but since they added GetItemQualityColor, it's just iterating that to fill the tabe |
| 17:37.12 | Legorol^ | *table |
| 17:37.16 | namxo | i think i will set size 0 for tab |
| 17:37.18 | Beladona | can you dump it? |
| 17:37.22 | Beladona | just dump it in-game |
| 17:37.23 | namxo | if you know a better way tell me |
| 17:37.30 | Legorol^ | Beladona: sure, but don't have WoW atm |
| 17:37.35 | Beladona | ahh kk |
| 17:37.36 | Legorol^ | but it's irrelevant.. |
| 17:37.40 | Beladona | I will try to do it in a bit |
| 17:37.44 | Beladona | got a meeting to go into shortly |
| 17:37.56 | Legorol^ | all i needed was the hex codes, and was going to hard code them because i forgot about GetItemQualityColor |
| 17:38.00 | Beladona | oh |
| 17:38.03 | Legorol^ | now that i remembered that function, i can just use that instead of hardcoding it |
| 17:38.06 | Beladona | so you can get what you need from that |
| 17:38.06 | namxo | it's in gametooltip |
| 17:38.10 | Legorol^ | yes |
| 17:38.16 | Legorol^ | gametooltip? could be |
| 17:38.24 | Beladona | didn't know what you were doing, guess I shoulda read further |
| 17:38.30 | Legorol^ | nah, i never explained |
| 17:38.34 | namxo | -- Colors for item quality tooltip borders |
| 17:38.35 | namxo | ITEM_QUALITY0_TOOLTIP_COLOR = { r = 0.8, g = 0.8, b = 0.8 }; |
| 17:38.36 | Legorol^ | just asked for the hex codes of the qualities |
| 17:38.37 | namxo | etc... |
| 17:38.48 | Beladona | interesting |
| 17:38.59 | Legorol^ | do they match up with ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS :D |
| 17:38.59 | Beladona | so the tooltip border colors were never switched to the new method? |
| 17:39.09 | namxo | i've try Legorol^, see nothing, it's strange |
| 17:39.25 | Beladona | well, 0.8,0.8,0.8 would be gray |
| 17:39.28 | Legorol^ | namxo: which file's that, i don't see it |
| 17:39.33 | Beladona | off white |
| 17:39.54 | namxo | wait i do another full scan |
| 17:39.56 | Legorol^ | yeah, quality = 0 is grey (junk) |
| 17:40.01 | Beladona | yeah |
| 17:40.14 | Beladona | where is that from namxo? got me interested |
| 17:40.17 | Legorol^ | namxo: i have Blizz UI files here, i don't see ITEM_QUALITY0_TOOLTIP_COLOR anywhere in there |
| 17:40.25 | namxo | it's strange |
| 17:40.29 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:40.33 | namxo | but never define in lua file |
| 17:40.47 | Legorol^ | it is |
| 17:40.51 | Legorol^ | in UIParent.lua |
| 17:40.54 | namxo | no. |
| 17:40.56 | Legorol^ | yes |
| 17:40.56 | namxo | i've look for. |
| 17:40.58 | namxo | no. |
| 17:41.01 | Beladona | .... |
| 17:41.06 | namxo | i've the file on my eye |
| 17:41.06 | namxo | :) |
| 17:41.08 | Legorol^ | line 61 |
| 17:41.17 | Legorol^ | paste warning: |
| 17:41.19 | Legorol^ | ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS = { }; |
| 17:41.19 | Legorol^ | for i = -1, 6 do |
| 17:41.19 | Legorol^ | ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[i] = { }; |
| 17:41.19 | Legorol^ | ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[i].r, |
| 17:41.20 | Legorol^ | ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[i].g, |
| 17:41.20 | Legorol^ | ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[i].b, |
| 17:41.22 | Legorol^ | ITEM_QUALITY_COLORS[i].hex = GetItemQualityColor(i); |
| 17:41.23 | namxo | "ChatMenu", |
| 17:41.24 | Legorol^ | end |
| 17:41.27 | namxo | line 61 of UIParent |
| 17:41.27 | namxo | :) |
| 17:41.27 | Legorol^ | that's in UIParent.lua, line 61 |
| 17:41.33 | Legorol^ | then you have outdated interface files |
| 17:41.34 | Beladona | you sure you have the most recent? |
| 17:41.35 | namxo | not, a old UIParent.lua |
| 17:41.40 | Beladona | download it gtom wdn |
| 17:41.40 | namxo | yep |
| 17:41.41 | Legorol^ | well that's why then |
| 17:41.42 | Beladona | from |
| 17:41.44 | namxo | i've extrat them since the last patch |
| 17:41.59 | Legorol^ | no wonder we see different things :D |
| 17:42.21 | namxo | all that don't solve my problem ;) |
| 17:43.38 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.39 | Beladona | should be able to simply dump GetItemQualityColor(i); by replacing i with the number of the quality you want |
| 17:43.43 | namxo | ] <namxo> i think i will set size 0 for tab |
| 17:43.48 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.51 | Beladona | 0-6 |
| 17:44.07 | krka | ok, i need a way to grab the texture path of a random <texture> in the system? (like catch it when user clicks on it) |
| 17:44.20 | cladhaire | :GetTexture? |
| 17:44.39 | krka | but on what? |
| 17:44.40 | krka | and when? |
| 17:44.59 | namxo | OnClick |
| 17:45.03 | krka | basically, i want a simple way for users to grab the texture from some random element in the system |
| 17:45.05 | Beladona | you trying to do this on ANYTHING they click? |
| 17:45.06 | namxo | you've say "when user clicks on it" |
| 17:45.14 | krka | i can't OnClick on random stuff |
| 17:45.22 | namxo | you can't if you have a template |
| 17:45.24 | Beladona | right |
| 17:45.27 | namxo | an inherits random stuff from it |
| 17:45.27 | namxo | ;) |
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| 17:45.32 | namxo | can no can't sorry |
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| 17:46.36 | Beladona | so you basically want to be able to have an OnClick fire on any element, even ones you don't know about yet, without populating all OnClick events |
| 17:47.08 | krka | pretty much |
| 17:47.27 | krka | or possibly to check which frame the mouse is over |
| 17:47.32 | krka | and poll with onupdate |
| 17:47.35 | Beladona | and then populate it |
| 17:47.51 | Beladona | hmm, sounds hackish |
| 17:47.59 | krka | just need a way for a user to enter a texture, preferably without having to remember the file path |
| 17:48.32 | Beladona | so they can say "I want the same texture as this one over here on this other window" -- click, yeah that one |
| 17:48.38 | krka | yeah |
| 17:49.38 | Beladona | what about supporting all default frames, and simply populate those |
| 17:49.56 | Beladona | I know that wouldn't get you the ones from addons they have and you don't know about |
| 17:50.35 | krka | could scan the globals perhaps |
| 17:50.48 | namxo | put file in FrameXML work ? (i want to modify some file, to understand which code show the tab of channel) |
| 17:50.52 | krka | though hooking every onclick seems bad |
| 17:50.59 | futr-sleep | start at UIParent and check through is children |
| 17:51.01 | namxo | i believe it don't work since patch 1.9 |
| 17:51.05 | namxo | so it's work or not ? |
| 17:51.17 | futr-sleep | stops working in 1.10 |
| 17:51.20 | krka | works in 1.9 |
| 17:51.27 | namxo | good, i can test again :D |
| 17:51.36 | namxo | after i must modify the mpq lol |
| 17:51.51 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 17:51.58 | namxo | look : |
| 17:52.06 | Beladona | what are you trying to do, find where the tabs get created on chat frames? |
| 17:52.07 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.14 | namxo | it's hard ton understand how the tab is shown |
| 17:52.20 | namxo | i want hide the channel |
| 17:52.21 | namxo | it's easy |
| 17:52.25 | namxo | but the tab is always shown |
| 17:52.30 | namxo | i want hide the tab too |
| 17:52.39 | namxo | so i must understand which code of blizzard show them |
| 17:53.01 | namxo | if ( shown ) then |
| 17:53.01 | namxo | chatFrame:Show(); |
| 17:53.01 | namxo | FCF_SetTabPosition(chatFrame, 0); |
| 17:53.01 | namxo | else |
| 17:53.01 | namxo | chatFrame:Hide(); |
| 17:53.02 | namxo | chatTab:Hide(); |
| 17:53.04 | namxo | end |
| 17:53.06 | namxo | i think it's that |
| 17:53.09 | namxo | but i've set shown to 0 |
| 17:53.22 | namxo | and the tab is always shown when the mouse is over the chat frame :( |
| 17:59.36 | namxo | hm it's not that :( |
| 18:00.48 | Beladona | SetChatWindowShown(id, nil); |
| 18:00.56 | Beladona | replace id with chat frame id? |
| 18:00.59 | Beladona | try that |
| 18:01.07 | namxo | already try that :) |
| 18:01.43 | Beladona | this the default chat frame? |
| 18:01.48 | namxo | yep |
| 18:02.16 | Beladona | ChatFrame1Tab:Hide(); |
| 18:02.24 | namxo | already try |
| 18:02.25 | Beladona | ? |
| 18:02.32 | namxo | it's hide, but show when the mouse is over |
| 18:02.55 | namxo | i try on a vanilla installation same problem |
| 18:03.01 | Beladona | you need to lock the chat |
| 18:03.06 | Beladona | it won't show when locked I believe |
| 18:03.13 | namxo | it's lock :p |
| 18:03.24 | Beladona | doesn't show on mine when chat is locked |
| 18:03.44 | namxo | on mine it's show, with no addons |
| 18:03.46 | namxo | you've addon ? |
| 18:04.06 | Beladona | nope |
| 18:04.14 | namxo | wait i try something |
| 18:04.21 | Beladona | plain jane chat frame, and the tab doesn't show when I hover over it and chat is locked |
| 18:04.32 | namxo | if i thick "messagerie simple" |
| 18:04.38 | namxo | "simple chat" in english i think |
| 18:04.39 | namxo | it's ok |
| 18:04.39 | namxo | :) |
| 18:05.18 | namxo | lock or not lock, if "simple chat" is on, no tab shown :) |
| 18:05.22 | namxo | it's the solution, thanks |
| 18:05.31 | namxo | i will force "simple chat" when i hide chat |
| 18:05.46 | namxo | hum.. |
| 18:06.05 | Beladona | index 7 in the UIOptionsFrame |
| 18:06.15 | Beladona | will get you the function name in a sec |
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| 18:06.59 | namxo | yep but i can't use that |
| 18:07.01 | namxo | it's break channel config |
| 18:07.55 | namxo | FCF_Set_SimpleChat(); |
| 18:07.55 | namxo | ;) |
| 18:08.21 | Beladona | it simple does ChatFrame1Tab:Hide(); to hide the tabs |
| 18:08.24 | Beladona | simply |
| 18:08.33 | Beladona | it may need to be undocked to work though |
| 18:08.37 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.37 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.37 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.39 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.04 | Beladona | right, I am looking at FCF_Set_SimpleChat(); and it hides that tab |
| 18:09.13 | namxo | i see that |
| 18:09.17 | Beladona | it also locks it |
| 18:09.19 | namxo | i dunno why it's don't work for me |
| 18:09.20 | Beladona | and sets alpha to 0 |
| 18:09.28 | namxo | i do all that, except the lock |
| 18:09.33 | namxo | alpha 0, hide tab |
| 18:09.45 | Beladona | try locking it after you hide the tab |
| 18:10.05 | namxo | yep |
| 18:10.16 | Beladona | it goes in this order: hidetab, lock, alpha |
| 18:10.24 | Beladona | at least that function does |
| 18:11.38 | namxo | hum don't work :( |
| 18:13.22 | Beladona | I will play with it when I get back from my meeting |
| 18:13.34 | namxo | ok |
| 18:16.25 | namxo | ah ah |
| 18:16.29 | namxo | a stupid hack :D |
| 18:16.30 | namxo | CHAT_TAB_SHOW_DELAY |
| 18:16.34 | namxo | with a big big value :') |
| 18:18.45 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 18:24.28 | namxo | CHAT_LOCKED = "1" |
| 18:24.30 | namxo | TADA !! |
| 18:24.36 | namxo | It's work fine :) |
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| 18:27.52 | Legorol^ | namxo: what were you trying to achieve? |
| 18:28.11 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.11 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.11 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.11 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.11 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.11 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.13 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.15 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.17 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.19 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.21 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.24 | namxo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.35 | Legorol^ | aha |
| 18:31.48 | Legorol^ | btw, you wont' be able to put files in the MPQ and change FrameXML taht way |
| 18:31.59 | namxo | i don't want use FrameXML |
| 18:32.08 | namxo | i've modify FrameXML to find the problem with tab on channel :) |
| 18:32.11 | Legorol^ | i know that ultimately you don't, but |
| 18:32.28 | Legorol^ | you said at some point that once 1.10 comes around, you will just have to put stuff in the MPQ |
| 18:32.36 | Legorol^ | i know it's just for testing |
| 18:32.42 | Legorol^ | unfortunately that won't be possible either in 1.10 |
| 18:32.45 | namxo | i know, i've say that |
| 18:32.45 | namxo | :) |
| 18:32.54 | Legorol^ | it's a shame really.. |
| 18:33.00 | Legorol^ | i like messing framexml files too for testing |
| 18:34.13 | Cairenn|sleep | well, you know who to thank for the ability going away ... |
| 18:34.42 | Legorol^ | really? i do? |
| 18:34.52 | cladhaire | ME ME ME I DID T |
| 18:35.01 | Cairenn|sleep | those that abused it, duh :p |
| 18:35.01 | Legorol^ | i didn't know there was a particular person to blame |
| 18:35.01 | Legorol^ | oh right |
| 18:35.04 | Legorol^ | i thought there was a specific incident |
| 18:35.16 | Legorol^ | abused it? how? |
| 18:35.24 | Legorol^ | how can you abuse FrameXML overrides? |
| 18:35.49 | Legorol^ | I can completely understand that they want to lock down FrameXML for future AddOn signing/protection/security/whatever |
| 18:35.56 | Legorol^ | but i didn't realise you can actually abuse FrameXML overrides |
| 18:36.40 | Legorol^ | Cairenn|sleep: btw, have you not happened to hear a birdy recently speak about AddOn signign? |
| 18:36.56 | Legorol^ | or rather sing about signing |
| 18:36.57 | Cairenn|sleep | there was something, I don't remember exactly what it was, at this point |
| 18:37.05 | Cairenn|sleep | nope, can't say as I have |
| 18:37.16 | Legorol^ | shame.. feed those birds, they must be hungry |
| 18:38.42 | Cairenn|sleep | meh |
| 18:39.20 | Legorol^ | good morning |
| 18:39.26 | Cairenn | hey |
| 18:39.31 | Legorol^ | i am amazed at your ability to sleep-talk |
| 18:39.41 | Cairenn | I am a woman of many talents |
| 18:39.49 | cladhaire | this is true |
| 18:40.13 | krka | agreed |
| 18:40.15 | Legorol^ | Cairenn, you will be glad to know i have completely failed to find any personal information about you on the Intarweb |
| 18:40.24 | Legorol^ | thought didn't try too hard yet... |
| 18:40.27 | krka | oooh, did you try me lego? |
| 18:40.32 | Legorol^ | nope |
| 18:40.33 | Cairenn | heh, you won |
| 18:40.35 | Cairenn | 't |
| 18:40.38 | Legorol^ | but i know your name, krka |
| 18:40.42 | Legorol^ | that's already a good start |
| 18:40.49 | krka | good point |
| 18:40.52 | krka | you don't know cairs? |
| 18:40.55 | Legorol^ | nope |
| 18:41.05 | krka | ok, i am too easy of a target i guess |
| 18:41.08 | Cairenn | I don't care how hard you look, if all you have to work with is my on-line persona, you won't find a single thing about me |
| 18:41.10 | Legorol^ | i do have one idea of where to get it from, but didn't try too hard yet |
| 18:41.15 | krka | could even google on my nick to get my name |
| 18:41.22 | cladhaire | =) |
| 18:41.38 | Legorol^ | Cairenn: there is one "source" where your name is possibly available, depending on skill |
| 18:41.48 | Legorol^ | i'm afraid i don't have the necessary skill |
| 18:41.52 | krka | i am basically actively making it easier for people to stalk me |
| 18:41.56 | krka | still doesn't work :( |
| 18:41.57 | Legorol^ | lol |
| 18:42.05 | Legorol^ | just make sure you don't get the wrong guy stalking you |
| 18:42.07 | cladhaire | googling cladhaire is scary |
| 18:42.12 | Codayus | lol |
| 18:42.14 | krka | a thin line between stalker and a new friend! |
| 18:42.31 | krka | lego, blizzard account+ |
| 18:42.37 | Legorol^ | well the funniest thing i found though was a Cairenn Boann in Ontario, Canada, who is the member of some international witchcraft organization |
| 18:42.43 | Legorol^ | I thought that was pretty close to our Cairenn ;-) |
| 18:42.47 | Legorol^ | but i'm sure it's not her |
| 18:42.56 | Codayus | ... lol |
| 18:42.56 | Cairenn | heh |
| 18:43.08 | cladhaire | =) |
| 18:43.08 | Cairenn | my online nick isn't my real name |
| 18:43.14 | Legorol^ | Cairenn: i figured that much |
| 18:43.20 | cladhaire | My nick is Jim |
| 18:43.21 | Legorol^ | that's why i discarded that person |
| 18:43.24 | cladhaire | my real name is cladhaire |
| 18:43.28 | Legorol^ | but it was still pretty funny |
| 18:43.29 | krka | discarding people is mean! |
| 18:43.35 | [MoonWolf] | I could ask someone who used to do investigations to people online to look for stuff |
| 18:43.39 | [MoonWolf] | but that would be cheating |
| 18:43.42 | Codayus | I would have used my real name on here... |
| 18:43.47 | Codayus | But the nick was already registered. |
| 18:43.48 | Codayus | Boooo. |
| 18:43.58 | Legorol^ | lol |
| 18:43.58 | Cairenn | there are a number of people that are actually named Cairenn irl, but I'm not one of them |
| 18:44.02 | Legorol^ | Cairenn is some celtic name or something? |
| 18:44.11 | cladhaire | i need to go get food.. but alterac valley keeps opening up. |
| 18:44.12 | Codayus | I doubt there's anyone named Codayus in real life... |
| 18:44.18 | krka | krka is a medicine company irl, i have learned |
| 18:44.28 | Cairenn | 11th C Gaelic |
| 18:44.28 | Legorol^ | cladhaire: i can't say i feel sorry for you ;-) |
| 18:44.38 | cladhaire | lol |
| 18:45.04 | Legorol^ | i wonder if googling Legorol connects me to myself... gotta try |
| 18:45.21 | Legorol^ | it's not like it's hard to find me |
| 18:45.28 | [MoonWolf] | moonwolf comes up with now ugly results |
| 18:46.18 | cladhaire | http://googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Cairenn&word2=Cladhaire |
| 18:46.19 | cladhaire | *cry* |
| 18:46.21 | Legorol^ | so Cairenn, want to know a potential attack vector on your RL identity? |
| 18:46.32 | Legorol^ | with some good software someone might succeed there.. |
| 18:46.33 | Codayus | Hmmm, googling Codayus *only* returns me. |
| 18:46.56 | cladhaire | well i'm the only cladhaire.. but cladhaire is an irish word.. so its not unique |
| 18:47.15 | krka | hey people, can anyone verify that you can perform many spells if you keep your script in a timed loop? |
| 18:47.28 | krka | and if so, if that also applies to movement |
| 18:47.37 | Cairenn | well, I really don't think that I have to actually worry about it overly much Legorol^ ... I'm not anywhere near known/popular enough that people are going to try to stalk me |
| 18:47.46 | Legorol^ | yep, just as i thought, someone with experience at Google cache browsing could link Legorol to my RL identity |
| 18:48.04 | Legorol^ | it's all Alex's fault! |
| 18:48.27 | [MoonWolf] | I have no need to hide anything. |
| 18:49.11 | krka | i couldn't do it, lego |
| 18:49.13 | Cairenn | [MoonWolf]: you aren't a female working in a highly visible position in an industry that is predominately male, and having an 18 year old daughter |
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| 18:49.32 | [MoonWolf] | Good point. |
| 18:49.35 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 18:49.48 | Codayus | I don't have any porblem seeing why some people want anonymity. |
| 18:49.50 | Cairenn | why do you think you *can't* find out stuff abuot me |
| 18:49.53 | [MoonWolf] | On another note, is she cute ? |
| 18:49.55 | Legorol^ | http://www.blizzard.com/support/?id=awr0698p |
| 18:50.07 | [MoonWolf] | :P |
| 18:50.09 | Legorol^ | lol @ MoonWolf |
| 18:50.21 | Legorol^ | we know that Cairenn is cute... and apples and trees and all that.. |
| 18:50.33 | krka | i think we've seen h0t pix0rz |
| 18:50.49 | Codayus | But I'm male, in my mid-20s, and a full time student. No need to wrry about stalkers, no need to worry about stuff I say reflecting on an employer... <shrug> |
| 18:51.02 | Codayus | Or on family, come to that. |
| 18:51.12 | krka | not that it matters... 1) i am engaged 2) cair + daugther is in canada 3) i am lazy 4) not quite evil enough to stalk |
| 18:51.27 | krka | wait... that's spelled daughter |
| 18:51.27 | Cairenn | Legorol^: neat |
| 18:51.39 | Legorol^ | Codayus: but when you will be mid-40s and running for presidency, what you do today will come back to haunt you |
| 18:51.40 | [MoonWolf] | The whole I'm living in europe is kinda a barrier for me. |
| 18:51.43 | Legorol^ | ty Cairenn |
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| 18:52.03 | Codayus | Legorol^: See the comment about mid-20s. If I try and think that far in the future my head explodes. |
| 18:52.15 | Codayus | :-P |
| 18:52.24 | Legorol^ | which is why you can dig something up on every president.. they didn't think ahead either :D |
| 18:52.28 | Corrodias | "you aren't a female working in a highly visible position in an industry that is predominately male, and having an 18 year old daughter" |
| 18:52.30 | Corrodias | how do YOU know? |
| 18:52.35 | krka | cool lego! |
| 18:52.42 | Corrodias | [MoonWolf] might have a whole secret life |
| 18:52.48 | krka | iriel is not on it? |
| 18:52.57 | Cairenn | that is possible Corrodias |
| 18:53.03 | [MoonWolf] | the only secret i have is.... |
| 18:53.05 | krka | and why is not Saien on it??? |
| 18:53.14 | Legorol^ | krka: they seem to put you on the list if you did something for Blizz during the beta |
| 18:53.14 | elema | Would MyMod_OnEvent("PIMPED_THAT_GUY"); call the event PIMPED_THAT_GUY, although it does not normally exist ? |
| 18:53.15 | Cairenn | unlikely, given everything he's said, but possible |
| 18:53.30 | krka | i see |
| 18:53.32 | Legorol^ | it's not for UI modding or popularity |
| 18:53.32 | Kremonte | elema: because you're calling the function =P |
| 18:53.39 | Legorol^ | unfortunately they couldn't care less about that :( |
| 18:53.48 | elema | yes, that I meant |
| 18:53.52 | krka | well, they do care to some extent |
| 18:53.54 | Cairenn | I guess I didn't send in enough bugs during CB |
| 18:53.56 | Legorol^ | I beleive I was put on there because I fixed Blizzard Europe's problem with distributing the beta client in EU |
| 18:54.01 | Legorol^ | which they couldn't fix for 3 weeks themselves |
| 18:54.02 | krka | they just dont want to do it really officially |
| 18:54.10 | krka | that would mean a lot of support issues |
| 18:54.17 | Legorol^ | yah |
| 18:54.37 | elema | must I register this event ? ( Ithink not or ?) |
| 18:54.48 | Legorol^ | oh i am sure that the UI community is quite important for them |
| 18:55.02 | Legorol^ | as far as i judge, they went: heck, we will release a simple stock UI, let's see what the users come up with |
| 18:55.05 | Kremonte | elema: if you have an outside addon that calls special events (such as ace SpecialEvents) |
| 18:55.06 | Legorol^ | then we steal their best ideas |
| 18:55.10 | krka | you can't really trigger regular events |
| 18:55.22 | Legorol^ | saves on design/development cost, and it allows them to do stuff with the UI that's really popular/needed |
| 18:55.30 | Legorol^ | i think it's a very smart approach, everyone wins |
| 18:55.31 | krka | you could fake it, by setting certain variables (event, arg1, arg2, arg3, ...) and then calling the function you want |
| 18:55.56 | Legorol^ | it's a pity it got abused so that we will get this signing business |
| 18:56.08 | Corrodias | except egomaniacal addon developers who get pissy when their addons are integrated into the UI, but i don't know if anybody... what signing business? |
| 18:56.09 | Legorol^ | i don't know how it will work, but however it will work, i am positive it will make life more difficult for us :( |
| 18:56.29 | krka | if their code would get blatantly stolen, i'd get pissy too |
| 18:56.41 | krka | not if it's just inspiration though |
| 18:56.41 | Corrodias | well, blatantly copied |
| 18:56.42 | futrtrubl | elema that will work fine without registering for that event, I use it frequently for my own pseudo events |
| 18:56.51 | krka | same thing Corrodias :P |
| 18:56.53 | cladhaire | they can't credit the original author tho |
| 18:56.56 | cladhaire | legal issues |
| 18:57.18 | Corrodias | except the original author still has his code, so the concept of theft doesn't fit completely |
| 18:57.19 | krka | can't just take other peoples code (unless it's GPL:ed or similar)... legal issues |
| 18:57.23 | elema | If my addon itself call it I've not to register, right ? |
| 18:57.24 | krka | no, it's copyright infringement |
| 18:57.38 | cladhaire | well they don't copy co.e |
| 18:57.38 | cladhaire | so |
| 18:58.24 | Codayus | In the only examples I'm aware of, someone got upset for Bliz copying an idea, not the code. By an idea can't be copyrighted. <shrug> |
| 18:58.33 | Corrodias | an idea can be patented, though! |
| 18:58.37 | krka | true, i was talking about copying code |
| 18:58.40 | Corrodias | (it's not supposed to be but it sure as hell can be) |
| 18:58.45 | Codayus | Heh, I'd love to see someone patent a WoW addon. :-P |
| 18:58.53 | cladhaire | there will be no way to get somrthing past without prior art in this case tho |
| 18:59.14 | krka | "System for performing X inside a gaming environment (World of Warcraft) by using Y" |
| 18:59.37 | krka | if you get specific enough, you could probably get a patent |
| 18:59.43 | Legorol^ | you probably could |
| 18:59.49 | [MoonWolf] | And then blizzard goes, but we OWN the y and say you cant do it anymore! |
| 18:59.52 | Legorol^ | but no addon is patented, and only ideas were copied, not code |
| 19:00.02 | Legorol^ | [MoonWolf]: actually, they can't go like that |
| 19:00.06 | krka | yeah, no problem ATM |
| 19:00.15 | Legorol^ | because a person who hasn't even bought WoW can write AddOns too |
| 19:00.16 | krka | would be kinda cool if blizzard would buy the rights to some addon |
| 19:00.19 | Corrodias | actually i don't care any more |
| 19:00.25 | Legorol^ | so someone who is not bound by the EULA/ToU can patent the idea |
| 19:00.27 | Corrodias | it's all about people being assholes about what they think they have a right to own |
| 19:00.48 | Legorol^ | i'd be the happiest person in the world if they "stole" my idea |
| 19:00.49 | krka | i pwn YOU! |
| 19:00.49 | Codayus | Bliz could make an interesting argument about derivitive works...but, meh, this conversation is exceeding my boredom threshold fast. :-P |
| 19:01.06 | cladhaire | there is no legal case for anyone |
| 19:01.10 | cladhaire | period |
| 19:01.13 | cladhaire | =) |
| 19:01.16 | [MoonWolf] | quick, lets talk about........ |
| 19:01.17 | krka | exactly Legorol^, you'd get your addon spread to everyone, and having it polished by blizzard |
| 19:01.19 | [MoonWolf] | rabits |
| 19:01.23 | [MoonWolf] | rabid rabits |
| 19:01.24 | Corrodias | if only i were a god, i could tell people what to do |
| 19:01.25 | krka | you'd enjoy the addon without having to work on it |
| 19:01.27 | [MoonWolf] | rabid zombie rabits |
| 19:01.31 | Legorol^ | krka: precisely |
| 19:01.32 | [MoonWolf] | rabid zombie rabits of doom! |
| 19:01.50 | Legorol^ | i did it because *I* needed the feature, if i don't have to worry about it breaking with major patches, better for me :D |
| 19:01.55 | krka | actually... my addons all tend to "abuse" some lua functionality exposed... blizzard never has to go that way |
| 19:02.11 | Legorol^ | and you managed to write one of the most controversial addons |
| 19:02.18 | Legorol^ | second only to Decursive, imho |
| 19:02.28 | cladhaire | :P |
| 19:02.32 | krka | i am currently writing something that will be more controversial |
| 19:02.37 | Legorol^ | the amount of discussions that AT's "nerfing" caused is a credit to you ;-) |
| 19:02.40 | [MoonWolf] | please tell. |
| 19:02.50 | krka | it's no secret, check wowi |
| 19:02.54 | Legorol^ | krka: do you mean GRAB? |
| 19:02.56 | Kremonte | whwat addon did krka write that's so controversial o_O |
| 19:02.58 | cladhaire | Legorol: But Rowne started most of those converstions =). But I agree =) |
| 19:02.59 | Legorol^ | or whatever it is called atm |
| 19:03.05 | krka | actually... never mind, that won't be controversial |
| 19:03.11 | Legorol^ | cladhaire: i don't mean KeyMinder or whatever it was |
| 19:03.17 | Corrodias | i recommended the name "SCAB" but he apparently thought it wasn't good enough >:P |
| 19:03.18 | krka | seeing as how flexbar has survived for so long with criticism |
| 19:03.19 | cladhaire | no i know |
| 19:03.22 | Legorol^ | i mean people on the official forums debating whether blizzard did right or wrong by disabling AT |
| 19:03.26 | cladhaire | rowne quit the game cause AT got nerfed |
| 19:03.35 | Kremonte | AT? |
| 19:03.38 | krka | i quit too, but i came back |
| 19:03.40 | krka | AutoTravel |
| 19:03.42 | Corrodias | who is rowne and should i care? lol |
| 19:03.44 | Kremonte | oh lol |
| 19:03.48 | Kremonte | why would you quit because of that =/ |
| 19:03.58 | cladhaire | it took all the fun out of the game |
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| 19:04.06 | cladhaire | it was the only thing that made the menial tasks of the game beaqrable. |
| 19:04.06 | krka | well... it was really boring to just walk around |
| 19:04.08 | cladhaire | to paraphrase |
| 19:04.18 | krka | especially corpse runs after ganking |
| 19:04.18 | Kremonte | eh |
| 19:04.24 | Legorol^ | i think the problem with AT was that it could be used AFK |
| 19:04.27 | Kremonte | game is bearable right now if you ask me :} |
| 19:04.34 | Corrodias | i admit WoW has a lot of design decisions that make you waste a lot of time |
| 19:04.38 | Legorol^ | my moral stance on AT was that if it worked whilst forced you to be there, fine |
| 19:04.41 | Legorol^ | if it worked AFK, not fine |
| 19:04.42 | krka | i admit i use flight paths way more often now |
| 19:04.51 | Kremonte | well see |
| 19:04.55 | krka | and my current char is a mage, so i can teleport too... it's not too bad now |
| 19:04.55 | Kremonte | i didn't play in the times of AT |
| 19:04.58 | Legorol^ | Kremonte: you haven't tried AT then ;-) |
| 19:05.03 | Kremonte | Legorol^: hah |
| 19:05.14 | Kremonte | i started playing in er, august or so? of last year |
| 19:05.26 | Legorol^ | hm, can't remember when AT got nurfed.. |
| 19:05.28 | Corrodias | part of why i don't want to play WoW is because i get so sick of travel |
| 19:05.33 | krka | patch 1.6 was it? |
| 19:05.40 | krka | probably around july |
| 19:05.40 | Legorol^ | but it was a pity not only because of what the game lost, but because AT's code was beautiful |
| 19:05.45 | Kremonte | yeah, i started playing in 1.6, so that explains it =P |
| 19:05.48 | Legorol^ | can someone cover krka's ears up whilst i praise his code? |
| 19:06.02 | Corrodias | 80's music can only keep your hundredth time running across the shimmering flats interesting for so long |
| 19:06.08 | Legorol^ | it's path-finding system was ingenious |
| 19:06.12 | krka | meh... the math was pretty nice, imo, the code was so-so |
| 19:06.17 | krka | my current code is better designed |
| 19:06.22 | krka | object oriented and all |
| 19:06.27 | Legorol^ | yah maybe the code could've been prettier, but |
| 19:06.35 | Legorol^ | i really liked the underlying math/set theory/concepts whatever |
| 19:06.36 | krka | and all my garbage creation in early AT |
| 19:06.39 | krka | took me a while to fix all that |
| 19:07.03 | Legorol^ | i remember when i sat there for half a day trying to figure out your "connectedness-analysis" code |
| 19:07.17 | krka | sorry for wasting your time :) |
| 19:07.22 | Legorol^ | no, that was the fun part! |
| 19:07.27 | Legorol^ | i like doing that sort of thing |
| 19:07.36 | Legorol^ | i had a real Eureka! moment when i finally got it |
| 19:07.52 | krka | anyway, anyone know if you can do a loop for 2-3 seconds and do multiple movement calls within that? |
| 19:08.04 | krka | i had to use pen and paper to get it |
| 19:08.06 | Legorol^ | movement is hardware bound |
| 19:08.19 | krka | but _how_ is it bound? |
| 19:08.25 | Corrodias | WITH ROPE AND STEEL |
| 19:08.28 | Legorol^ | one hardware event => one move |
| 19:08.30 | krka | do you get a "token" to spend on just _one_ call? |
| 19:08.31 | Legorol^ | like spells |
| 19:08.36 | krka | spells aren't like that thuogh |
| 19:08.36 | Legorol^ | yeah |
| 19:08.40 | Legorol^ | ? |
| 19:08.43 | krka | you can do StopSpellCasting and cast another one |
| 19:08.50 | Legorol^ | *boggles* |
| 19:08.52 | Legorol^ | didn't know that.. |
| 19:08.53 | krka | so i am thinking it's just because of cooldown |
| 19:08.58 | Cide | yep krka |
| 19:08.59 | Legorol^ | hold your horses.. |
| 19:09.01 | krka | well, only works on spells that has no cooldown |
| 19:09.02 | Corrodias | you can! |
| 19:09.03 | Legorol^ | how can you do two spells? |
| 19:09.09 | Cide | I noticed that too, it was a nice find |
| 19:09.11 | Corrodias | Nature's Somethingorother + Healing Touch |
| 19:09.14 | Legorol^ | then it's a bug in their "token" code |
| 19:09.20 | Legorol^ | i know for sure it doesn't work with movement, i tried |
| 19:09.29 | Legorol^ | what's the role of spellstopcasting? |
| 19:09.31 | krka | but i guess it _should_ work if you just sleep for t = Cooldown |
| 19:09.40 | Legorol^ | no, i tried that too |
| 19:09.42 | Corrodias | it "cancels" the casting of the instant-cast spell |
| 19:09.45 | krka | just a hack, i guess |
| 19:09.49 | Legorol^ | it definitely doesn't work for spells or movement |
| 19:10.01 | Legorol^ | how can you cancel an instant cast spell? |
| 19:10.11 | cladhaire | I think we all had this delision of hardware events |
| 19:10.12 | Corrodias | please hold. i'll look it up in the druid forum. |
| 19:10.14 | krka | exactly :P |
| 19:10.14 | Kremonte | Legorol^: it doesn't cancel the spell |
| 19:10.14 | cladhaire | when in reality it was only global cooldown |
| 19:10.15 | Eraphine|Disco | SpellStopCasting |
| 19:10.16 | Kremonte | it clears the hardware event |
| 19:10.20 | krka | how could you have missed that thread Lego? :) |
| 19:10.21 | Kremonte | because the hardware can only do 1 thing at a time |
| 19:10.43 | Eraphine|Disco | I just jumped in here, but are we talking about chaining spells without global cooldowns together? |
| 19:10.53 | Corrodias | okay, the wow forums are being fruity again |
| 19:11.05 | Legorol^ | ok someone clue me up here.. |
| 19:11.07 | Corrodias | blizzard should outsource their programming. |
| 19:11.09 | krka | ok, so i am screwed |
| 19:11.13 | Legorol^ | sounds like i'm not up-to-date |
| 19:11.14 | krka | can't resurrect AT that way |
| 19:11.23 | krka | currently searching for the thread |
| 19:11.26 | Legorol^ | i have tried chaining spells/movement with delay, that didn't work |
| 19:11.30 | Legorol^ | but i never tied spellstopcasting |
| 19:11.30 | krka | found it! |
| 19:11.35 | krka | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=242664&tmp=1#post242664 |
| 19:11.42 | Legorol^ | thanks krka |
| 19:11.55 | Legorol^ | so maybe SpellStopCasting combined with sleeping could work? |
| 19:11.59 | krka | i was just assuming you had read that thread |
| 19:12.03 | Legorol^ | oh, this thread! |
| 19:12.06 | krka | hmm... maybe |
| 19:12.07 | Legorol^ | i skipped this one.. |
| 19:12.15 | Legorol^ | i skip any thread with "howto chain 2+ spells" |
| 19:12.20 | krka | if it just generally clears the hardware event |
| 19:12.26 | Cairenn | except this one actually works |
| 19:12.28 | krka | heh, yeah :) |
| 19:12.34 | Eraphine|Disco | Nature's Swiftness + Healing touch? |
| 19:12.37 | krka | for ages we've all been "it can't be done" |
| 19:12.38 | Kremonte | Legorol^: you used to be able to |
| 19:12.46 | krka | then comes someone with: "yeah, it can be done, here's how" |
| 19:12.59 | krka | and blizz reps: "yeah, that's ok usage of it" |
| 19:13.01 | Eraphine|Disco | THe mages in my guild have been using these macros for weeks now |
| 19:13.01 | Kremonte | i saw a macro that did while() do castspell while time <= oldtime +3 do end spellstopcasting end |
| 19:13.02 | krka | me: O_o |
| 19:13.06 | Kremonte | cant do that anymore |
| 19:13.12 | Legorol^ | ok, so i see |
| 19:13.19 | Legorol^ | does this *only* work with instant spells? |
| 19:13.23 | Eraphine|Disco | PoM + ToEP + ZHC + Pyroblast |
| 19:13.25 | krka | yeah, seems like it |
| 19:13.28 | Eraphine|Disco | It only works with spells without cooldowns |
| 19:13.29 | Kremonte | yes |
| 19:13.31 | Corrodias | yes, and only ones that don't activate the global cooldown |
| 19:13.32 | Legorol^ | hmm |
| 19:13.40 | Eraphine|Disco | the very last spell doesn't need to be instant |
| 19:13.41 | Corrodias | that is, so you can cast the next one immediately |
| 19:13.52 | Eraphine|Disco | but, you can't be moving while casting it anyway |
| 19:13.57 | Legorol^ | ok, i still don't think the global cooldown is the key |
| 19:14.00 | Eraphine|Disco | (If it's not instnat) |
| 19:14.01 | cladhaire | It doesn't register by the client as instant cast until you cast it |
| 19:14.01 | Corrodias | it also works, as i understand, with Tiger's Fury + anything else, in cat form |
| 19:14.09 | cladhaire | forexample i can't NS/HT while running |
| 19:14.11 | Legorol^ | it must be that somehow instant spells (non-globalcooldown-activating ones) are special |
| 19:14.15 | cladhaire | if i chain it.. but if i do it manuall i can |
| 19:14.19 | Eraphine|Disco | Legorol - it is the key. |
| 19:14.24 | krka | feel free to experiment |
| 19:14.27 | Legorol^ | i will! |
| 19:14.38 | Eraphine|Disco | Since all script is run sequentially but all in the same thread ? |
| 19:14.41 | Eraphine|Disco | is that right/ |
| 19:14.46 | Legorol^ | ok, i don't see the significance of global cooldown here at all |
| 19:14.58 | Eraphine|Disco | Look at it this way Legorol |
| 19:15.00 | krka | i was considering experimenting to get AT kinda working... but blizz would just stop it |
| 19:15.02 | Legorol^ | Eraphine|Disco: yes, but that has nothing to do with global cooldown, since you can pause in a script |
| 19:15.15 | Eraphine|Disco | Yes, but you can't trigger that script to run a hardware event |
| 19:15.22 | Legorol^ | that's right |
| 19:15.24 | Corrodias | maybe pausing makes it not work.. try it |
| 19:15.25 | Eraphine|Disco | You cannot delay the result of a hardware event. |
| 19:15.32 | futrtrubl | Legorol^: how could the second spell be cast if it is cooling down (from the global cooldown) |
| 19:15.32 | Legorol^ | what i am trying to say is: |
| 19:15.32 | krka | sure you can |
| 19:15.40 | Eraphine|Disco | Do tell |
| 19:15.49 | Eraphine|Disco | How can I cast a spell 2 seconds after pressing the key to do it |
| 19:15.51 | Legorol^ | everyone always says the reason why you can't chain 2 spells is global cooldwon |
| 19:15.56 | krka | t = time() while t + Cooldown > time() end |
| 19:16.00 | Legorol^ | this is not correct, since you can easily make a script wait until the cooldown is up |
| 19:16.03 | Legorol^ | yeah, as krka says |
| 19:16.13 | Eraphine|Disco | This actually works? |
| 19:16.16 | Legorol^ | yes |
| 19:16.18 | krka | dunno, haven't tried |
| 19:16.22 | Legorol^ | but it doesn't allow you 2 spells |
| 19:16.24 | Eraphine|Disco | I don't think it does |
| 19:16.27 | krka | however! that completely locks up UI :P |
| 19:16.30 | Legorol^ | so the real restriction *is* hardware event |
| 19:16.30 | futrtrubl | the hardware event is gone by the next OnUpdate |
| 19:16.30 | Eraphine|Disco | I don't think it will allow you do do even one |
| 19:16.31 | Eraphine|Disco | exactly |
| 19:16.34 | Corrodias | well, go ahead and try making one that casts an instant spell, cancels it, waits for a while, and then casts the second spell |
| 19:16.37 | Eraphine|Disco | your ui freezes |
| 19:16.48 | Legorol^ | nothing wrong with that |
| 19:16.52 | Legorol^ | the cooldown is not done by the UI |
| 19:16.55 | Legorol^ | it's done by the engine |
| 19:17.00 | krka | ui freezing is not a problem for corpse-runs though |
| 19:17.09 | krka | it's not like you'd want to do anything then :P |
| 19:17.11 | Eraphine|Disco | you can chain an infinite number of spells without cooldowns in front of one with one. |
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| 19:17.13 | Corrodias | you're not casting Healing Touch while you're dead >_> |
| 19:17.18 | futrtrubl | but the hardware event is gone by the time the global cooldown is gone |
| 19:17.30 | Eraphine|Disco | theoretically |
| 19:17.37 | krka | is it? i thought it was bound to the event that triggered |
| 19:17.39 | krka | not time |
| 19:17.39 | Legorol^ | My theory is, but i will play with this, is that somehow the hardware event token thing is not being applied to instant spells |
| 19:17.55 | Legorol^ | futrtrubl: what do you mean by hardware event is "gone"? |
| 19:17.57 | Eraphine|Disco | Legorol you'll find that not to be true |
| 19:17.58 | Corrodias | i wish you luck! |
| 19:18.07 | Eraphine|Disco | Spells that trigger global cooldowns will not work. |
| 19:18.11 | Eraphine|Disco | instant spells |
| 19:18.13 | krka | btw, do we know if any ingame data can be updated while inside a lua code block? |
| 19:18.14 | Legorol^ | that's what i said too |
| 19:18.16 | Eraphine|Disco | let me give you an example. |
| 19:18.23 | Legorol^ | i meant instant-spells-that-dont-trigger-cooldown |
| 19:18.34 | krka | like, can loop until i get some buff? |
| 19:18.42 | Legorol^ | krka: i beleive no |
| 19:18.45 | krka | or does buff-data only change when lua is not running? |
| 19:18.47 | Legorol^ | as in |
| 19:18.51 | Legorol^ | well i am not 100% |
| 19:19.01 | futrtrubl | ie, it poofs. I think there is something that's in an OnUpdate type thing if(hardwareeventthisupdate) then continue else don't do it |
| 19:19.03 | Legorol^ | but i beleive you wont' get any new info from the API you didn't have at the start of entering the Lua thread |
| 19:19.06 | Eraphine|Disco | Legorol^ are you trying to explain why it works? |
| 19:19.10 | krka | so GetPlayerMapPosition always stays the same within lua code? |
| 19:19.20 | Legorol^ | i beleive so, but not certain |
| 19:19.29 | krka | damn it, screwed :P |
| 19:19.37 | Legorol^ | ah, i see what your problem is, hmm |
| 19:19.51 | Legorol^ | you might be lucky and i can be wrong ;-) |
| 19:20.07 | Legorol^ | surely the client does buffer network packets from the server |
| 19:20.13 | Legorol^ | but i am not sure it processes them whilst in Lua |
| 19:20.14 | krka | key-masher kinda works... would have worked better if we still had the time parameter for movement functions |
| 19:20.29 | Eraphine|Disco | Legoral, my understanding is that a single hardware press can triggler mulitple spells in the same macro |
| 19:20.43 | Eraphine|Disco | in fact, if you put 2 spells in a macro, you'll just get a "that ability is not ready yet" |
| 19:20.51 | Eraphine|Disco | the first one fires, the 2nd one does not |
| 19:20.58 | Legorol^ | Eraphine|Disco: from what people are saying here, only if all but one of those spells is instant-noncooldownactivating spells |
| 19:21.11 | Legorol^ | Eraphine|Disco: it is not true in general |
| 19:21.16 | Legorol^ | because you can put a pause between the spells |
| 19:21.22 | Legorol^ | and the second one wont' happen, in general |
| 19:21.31 | krka | can you still do movement + casting spells btw? |
| 19:21.36 | Legorol^ | only in the special cases illustrated in the thread that was linked |
| 19:21.38 | Eraphine|Disco | if the spell is instant |
| 19:21.41 | Legorol^ | krka: i don't know |
| 19:21.47 | Legorol^ | Eraphine|Disco: exacty |
| 19:21.50 | krka | so, it's different hardware event tokens |
| 19:21.51 | krka | hm |
| 19:22.06 | Eraphine|Disco | Legorol^ I just don't understand how you can delay the spell |
| 19:22.07 | Tain | Oh just buy a cheap hardware macro device. |
| 19:22.07 | Legorol^ | even for two spells that have cooldown, even if you pause in your macro and wait for the cooldown to be up, the second spell won't happen |
| 19:22.08 | krka | i'm beginning to think it ONLY matters if it was called from a hardware event or not |
| 19:22.24 | Legorol^ | Eraphine|Disco: delaying is trivial |
| 19:22.28 | Eraphine|Disco | all the code is run at the same time right? |
| 19:22.34 | Legorol^ | no |
| 19:22.35 | Legorol^ | it's not |
| 19:22.41 | Legorol^ | it's run sequentially, like any Lua code |
| 19:22.44 | Eraphine|Disco | nod |
| 19:22.51 | Legorol^ | there is no "parallel" or "multitask" in macro execution |
| 19:22.54 | Eraphine|Disco | Yeah yeah |
| 19:22.55 | Eraphine|Disco | I know |
| 19:22.58 | Legorol^ | so just do a "while" loop |
| 19:23.01 | Legorol^ | for say 3 seconds |
| 19:23.02 | Eraphine|Disco | This is how I view it |
| 19:23.03 | Tain | You can't do that, Legorol^ |
| 19:23.04 | Legorol^ | and then carry on |
| 19:23.05 | Eraphine|Disco | Imagine you have 3 macros |
| 19:23.06 | krka | hmm... maybe i could use waiting to my advantage anyway |
| 19:23.13 | Eraphine|Disco | 1, 2, 3, each with one spell in them. |
| 19:23.15 | krka | to simulate the time parameter of movement functions |
| 19:23.20 | krka | + use key mashing |
| 19:23.23 | Legorol^ | Tain: i know that won't allow me to cast 2 spells |
| 19:23.27 | Eraphine|Disco | when you put them all into one macro, it tries to run them 1,2,3 right afte each other |
| 19:23.35 | Tain | Try putting in a loop to "pause" the macro and you'll "pause" your entire game. |
| 19:23.36 | Legorol^ | that's correct |
| 19:23.41 | Legorol^ | Tain: correct |
| 19:23.44 | Eraphine|Disco | if 1 was just used and triggered a cooldown, then 2 and 3 will both give "spell is not ready" messages |
| 19:23.45 | Corrodias | there's nothing wrong with pausing the game |
| 19:23.48 | Tain | But only for you. |
| 19:23.50 | Legorol^ | yes |
| 19:23.54 | Legorol^ | there is nothing wrong with that though |
| 19:23.56 | krka | no! it pauses for ALL players on server! |
| 19:24.00 | Legorol^ | lol |
| 19:24.02 | Corrodias | THE SERVER FREEZES |
| 19:24.09 | Legorol^ | Eraphine|Disco: correct |
| 19:24.11 | krka | that's why blizzard doesn't like it |
| 19:24.14 | Legorol^ | however, if you put a pause between 2 and 3, |
| 19:24.20 | krka | server lag is because if people running bad lua code |
| 19:24.22 | Legorol^ | i mean if you put a pause between 1, 2 and 3, |
| 19:24.25 | Legorol^ | you won't get the error message |
| 19:24.26 | Corrodias | lol |
| 19:24.29 | Legorol^ | they just simply won't happen |
| 19:24.41 | Eraphine|Disco | won't your ui freeze ? |
| 19:24.46 | Legorol^ | yes it will |
| 19:24.47 | Eraphine|Disco | for the pause durations |
| 19:24.47 | krka | yes |
| 19:24.51 | Legorol^ | yes |
| 19:24.52 | Legorol^ | so? |
| 19:24.55 | Eraphine|Disco | and the spells won't actually cast in 2 and 3 ? |
| 19:24.58 | Tain | No. |
| 19:25.00 | Legorol^ | that's correct |
| 19:25.02 | Legorol^ | they won't cast |
| 19:25.25 | Legorol^ | nor will they give you error message |
| 19:25.26 | Eraphine|Disco | which is why I thought you could never delay the result of a hardware press-required event. |
| 19:25.37 | Legorol^ | oh you can delay it as much as you like |
| 19:25.37 | Eraphine|Disco | (and actually have it work) |
| 19:25.45 | Legorol^ | for example, you can delay for 10 seconds before executing the first spell |
| 19:25.46 | krka | ALL code delays |
| 19:25.53 | krka | just differently long delays |
| 19:26.13 | Tain | But not delays like you're talking about doing loops to introduce delays. |
| 19:26.18 | krka | some code delays 0.000001, legorols code delays 10 seconds :P |
| 19:26.27 | krka | a delay is a delay |
| 19:26.30 | krka | the system can |
| 19:26.33 | krka | 't tell them apart |
| 19:26.42 | Legorol^ | Tain: if, in response to a key press, i first do a while loop for 10 seconds and then i call CastSpell(), the spell *will* happen |
| 19:26.46 | Eraphine|Disco | couldn't the client tell? |
| 19:26.52 | krka | not really |
| 19:26.52 | Legorol^ | nope |
| 19:26.56 | Eraphine|Disco | your client monitors keypresses |
| 19:26.59 | Legorol^ | yes it does |
| 19:27.03 | Corrodias | there could technically be a timeout on the hardware event token thingy |
| 19:27.03 | Legorol^ | and it says: |
| 19:27.06 | Corrodias | but there may not be one |
| 19:27.11 | Legorol^ | Corrodias: could be, but there isn't one |
| 19:27.16 | krka | <keypress> <.... some code ...> <spell> |
| 19:27.29 | Eraphine|Disco | So, how exactly is blizzard preventing spells from running without keypress |
| 19:27.37 | Eraphine|Disco | or movement. |
| 19:27.42 | Legorol^ | by assigning a token to each keypress |
| 19:27.43 | Corrodias | this discussion is stimulating, but is somebody going to try writing something in the game to prove the premise one way or another? |
| 19:27.44 | Legorol^ | imagine this: |
| 19:27.57 | Legorol^ | when you press a key: keyWasPressed = true |
| 19:28.02 | Tain | No Corrodias, because people already have using the sae assumptions and it doesn't work. |
| 19:28.07 | Guillotine | Cairenn, I need an approval on my new version of SKP :) |
| 19:28.24 | Legorol^ | when you call CastSpell: function CastSpell() if (keyWasPressed) then .. do the spell; keyWasPressed = false; else .. do nothing .. end |
| 19:28.44 | Legorol^ | Corrodias: i already have written stuff to try these |
| 19:29.04 | Legorol^ | the only thing i haven't tried is playing with StopSpellCasting |
| 19:29.06 | krka | we just need to figure out which variable is really "keyWasPressed" |
| 19:29.08 | Legorol^ | everything else i have tried |
| 19:29.13 | Corrodias | i mean, an instant cast spell, wait two seconds, cast another spell |
| 19:29.21 | Legorol^ | that doesn't work |
| 19:29.22 | krka | has anyone tested StopSpellCasting combined with delaying? |
| 19:29.25 | Legorol^ | nope |
| 19:29.26 | Corrodias | with the cancelspell after the instant one |
| 19:29.31 | Legorol^ | that could be possible |
| 19:29.38 | Kremonte | can't |
| 19:29.39 | Eraphine|Disco | It's SpellStopCasting() btw |
| 19:29.40 | Kremonte | used to be able to |
| 19:29.42 | Eraphine|Disco | and yes - it's been tried |
| 19:29.47 | krka | whateva! |
| 19:29.48 | Kremonte | you could in 1.7 i think |
| 19:29.51 | Eraphine|Disco | and it doesn't work :( |
| 19:29.52 | Kremonte | can't now, just crashes you |
| 19:30.00 | Legorol^ | gotta go , bye |
| 19:30.03 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Legorol^ (n=Legorol@tcmpc43.phy.cam.ac.uk) |
| 19:30.04 | Eraphine|Disco | buh bye |
| 19:30.21 | Corrodias | guess i'll go play freelancer now |
| 19:30.22 | krka | whoa... didn't leave a lot of time to say goodbye |
| 19:30.26 | krka | then again, neither do i |
| 19:30.38 | Cairenn | that's for sure krka :p |
| 19:30.38 | id` | Anyone wanna help me? weird problem |
| 19:30.43 | id` | http://rafb.net/paste/results/1O5HuH10.html |
| 19:30.51 | id` | WHen i Fear a mob it tells me its the debuff Fear |
| 19:30.59 | id` | and the unit 'target' |
| 19:31.13 | id` | but then its not present in the debuff table |
| 19:31.18 | id` | but it is |
| 19:31.19 | id` | :| |
| 19:31.32 | id` | and it fetches both args so i know i am calling the fonction with self |
| 19:32.42 | krka | what is the debuff table? |
| 19:33.24 | krka | self.Spells.Crowdcontrol[strDebuff] |
| 19:33.45 | id` | yes |
| 19:33.46 | krka | this indicates that you want to do Crowdcontrol = { ["Fear"] = 1, [".... |
| 19:34.02 | id` | hmm |
| 19:34.04 | krka | have the strings as keys instead of values |
| 19:34.25 | id` | that makes sense >_< |
| 19:34.28 | krka | am I right or what? |
| 19:34.32 | krka | YAY |
| 19:34.37 | id` | but isnt it kinda ugly? :( |
| 19:34.43 | krka | nope |
| 19:34.48 | krka | kinda pretty actually |
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| 19:35.01 | krka | anyway, you can create that working table from your table |
| 19:35.22 | krka | workingTable = {} for k, v in Crowdcontrol do workingTable[v] = 1 end |
| 19:35.32 | krka | i do that trick a lot |
| 19:35.59 | krka | time to watch Sweden kick Canadas ass |
| 19:36.17 | Cairenn | :P |
| 19:37.31 | krka | you have to watch it too cair, you're canadian! |
| 19:37.53 | Cairenn | no TV handy to my computer |
| 19:40.18 | krka | crap |
| 19:40.23 | krka | 1-0 canada after 3 minuets |
| 19:42.21 | cladhaire | lol |
| 19:42.21 | Eraphine|Disco | does anyone remember/know, does mana regen get interupted at the end of the cast of a spell or the beginning? |
| 19:42.30 | cladhaire | end |
| 19:42.34 | Eraphine|Disco | thank you |
| 19:42.38 | cladhaire | when the mana is spent |
| 19:42.45 | cladhaire | so keep inner focus in mind =) /clearcasting, etc. |
| 19:43.42 | krka | end of the cast i think |
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| 19:45.42 | Cairenn | morning Iriel |
| 19:47.43 | Iriel | lo |
| 19:50.27 | Osagasu | I hate Blizzard. >.< |
| 19:50.36 | Osagasu | They're killing Twisting Nether, I know it |
| 19:57.22 | Cairenn | 2-0 |
| 19:59.06 | krka | :( |
| 20:08.05 | Beladona | yum |
| 20:08.34 | Beladona | so um, cladhaire, when are we gonna get to play wow together? =P |
| 20:10.01 | Ktron | Anyone hear about the WoW routing thing? |
| 20:10.09 | Cairenn | ? |
| 20:10.13 | Codayus | ? |
| 20:10.51 | Ktron | Someone was talking about a way somebody devising of routing World of Warcraft in europe through a computer in the US to access the US WoW servers |
| 20:11.04 | Cairenn | oh really? |
| 20:11.06 | Ktron | and I hadn't heard of this before |
| 20:11.10 | Iriel | That's not really very hard |
| 20:11.15 | Codayus | Hrm. |
| 20:11.17 | Iriel | Or for that matter, original. |
| 20:11.22 | Codayus | A) That's trivial to do... |
| 20:11.30 | Iriel | I have to play similar tricks to get into wow from work |
| 20:11.45 | Codayus | B) Is that needed? I thought the issue was the client was different in EU. |
| 20:11.49 | Ktron | I think there was a little more to it that kept lag from being too high, but I really hadn't heard of it though |
| 20:12.21 | Ktron | It has to be more than client, because otherwise we could just send people in EU our client and they could join our server |
| 20:12.23 | Ktron | *servers |
| 20:12.25 | Iriel | Question B is a worthy one, did blizzard recently change their login rules? |
| 20:12.32 | Iriel | Well, there are different account databases |
| 20:12.39 | Iriel | You need a US account |
| 20:12.46 | Iriel | There's no way around THAT |
| 20:13.03 | Codayus | Ktron: I thought that was in fact how it worked. AFAIk, all you need is a copy of the US client and a US key... |
| 20:13.04 | Iriel | but I wasn't aware that blizzard blocked EU machines from getting to US servers, unless they started that recently |
| 20:13.12 | Iriel | But i'm pretty sure lego would have mentioned it |
| 20:13.24 | Ktron | ah, I didn't know that... I didn't actually see the article, I just heard of someone doing this routing thing, maybe he was doing something ridiculous |
| 20:13.50 | Codayus | Trying to work out the geographical location of an IP is a dark art, and tend to be unreliable. I'd be surprised if Bliz was trying to do that. |
| 20:14.13 | Codayus | Hmm, not sure what the routing would be used to acomplish. If you hear anything more, I'd be interested. |
| 20:14.50 | Iriel | I suspect 'routing' is being used in a very general sense |
| 20:15.01 | Codayus | Incidentally, I believe the barrier to entry for CGFs getting on US servers is they need a supply of US keys and, IIRC, a US credit card to pay for them. |
| 20:15.08 | Iriel | generally you create some kind of VPN tunnel from your game location to another machine... |
| 20:15.35 | Iriel | then you route traffic to blizzard's servers over the VPN, and do some kind of NAT to get the traffic back again |
| 20:16.03 | Codayus | *nod* |
| 20:16.30 | Codayus | I've seen various applications designed to do that sort of thing to allow for mutliplayer play acrross the intenet for games which only allow LAN play... |
| 20:16.40 | Codayus | Although no names spring to mind offhand. |
| 20:16.47 | Beladona | sorry, late in the conversation. Can't you just set up a proxy? |
| 20:16.55 | Iriel | Yeah, I'm dimly aware of some of those. |
| 20:17.09 | Iriel | Beladona: Essentially that's all you're doing, yes |
| 20:17.11 | Beladona | although the vpn solution Iriel describes is sort of the same thing |
| 20:17.17 | Beladona | heh |
| 20:17.22 | Codayus | Beladona: Probably not, since that requires client support for SOCKS or whatever. |
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| 20:17.47 | Guillotine | tape |
| 20:17.48 | Beladona | I wasn't referring to the same thing you were Codayus |
| 20:17.53 | Guillotine | hot glue gun |
| 20:17.54 | Beladona | I know of what you speak |
| 20:17.56 | Codayus | Well, okay, in a general sense, yeah, we're talking about proxies I guess. :-) |
| 20:18.05 | Beladona | I use something like that to play wc3 lan games over the net |
| 20:18.37 | Beladona | damn, I can't wait till March |
| 20:18.41 | Codayus | ? |
| 20:18.46 | Beladona | Battle for Middle Earth 2 is awesome |
| 20:18.53 | Beladona | kills any other RTS I have played |
| 20:19.01 | Beladona | and thats saying a lot |
| 20:19.07 | Codayus | Cool |
| 20:19.23 | Beladona | they have a single player demo |
| 20:19.27 | Beladona | should try it |
| 20:19.56 | Beladona | try one game against a medium computer opponent, and you will pee your pants from the difficulty |
| 20:20.02 | Codayus | Hmm, I should... |
| 20:20.27 | Beladona | it has 5 races.. if I recall |
| 20:20.43 | Beladona | elves, men, dwarves, goblins, mordor, and isegard |
| 20:21.02 | Beladona | make that 6 |
| 20:21.05 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 20:21.29 | Ktron | goblins separate from mordor? that's different |
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| 20:21.55 | Beladona | yeah |
| 20:22.00 | Beladona | goblins kick but though |
| 20:22.12 | elema | does anyone of you use photoshop CS 1 (v 8.0.1) ? |
| 20:22.59 | Beladona | Inot for some time now |
| 20:23.02 | Cairenn | I used to, have C2 now |
| 20:23.08 | Beladona | same |
| 20:23.29 | Beladona | all the cool kids use cs2 |
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| 20:23.39 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:23.45 | elema | and all of them have payd for it ....? |
| 20:23.48 | elema | ;) |
| 20:23.49 | AnduinLothar | C2 ftw |
| 20:24.05 | Beladona | I cannot answer that question |
| 20:24.10 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 20:24.14 | AnduinLothar | I did |
| 20:24.15 | Beladona | it is against my religion |
| 20:24.39 | Cairenn | I'd like to =/ |
| 20:24.40 | Beladona | I pay for games... |
| 20:24.43 | Beladona | thats about it |
| 20:24.48 | elema | I changed from 7.0.1 to cs 1 and somehow it doesn't create working tga file ( normal, was in 7 so too) but is doesn't create working .bmp filess too |
| 20:25.13 | Cairenn | say again, over? |
| 20:25.16 | Beladona | working as in not working for wow? |
| 20:25.47 | elema | beladona: yes, right |
| 20:25.50 | AnduinLothar | lol cair.... enjoying your non 3day weekend? |
| 20:26.06 | Cairenn | non 3day weekend? |
| 20:26.10 | Beladona | are the dimensions a power of 2, and are they RLE compressed? |
| 20:26.21 | AnduinLothar | president's day in the US |
| 20:26.22 | elema | I create them like the normal ones, with alpha layer and so and they have also the 2 power size |
| 20:26.26 | Cairenn | ah |
| 20:26.32 | Cairenn | meh, whatever /shrug |
| 20:26.49 | Codayus | It's not exactly much of a 3-day weekedn in the US, at least for me. |
| 20:26.54 | Beladona | today is a holiday? |
| 20:26.56 | Codayus | Universities still run. |
| 20:26.58 | AnduinLothar | that 12 hours of sleep was so good it almost hurt |
| 20:27.09 | Beladona | I don't work at a bank, so I had to work |
| 20:27.13 | Codayus | Who actually gets the day off? |
| 20:27.15 | AnduinLothar | not the state run ones :) |
| 20:27.20 | Codayus | AnduinLothar: Lies. |
| 20:27.26 | AnduinLothar | UCI has the day off |
| 20:27.34 | elema | I save them and wanna convert to tga with alphaconv, but it won't convert them ( the only with alpha mask and 32-bit button is checked ) |
| 20:27.37 | AnduinLothar | and i had yesterday of work |
| 20:27.39 | Codayus | I attend a state school that still has classes. |
| 20:27.42 | Codayus | :-( |
| 20:27.47 | AnduinLothar | neener neener |
| 20:28.28 | Codayus | ...of course, I don't have classes today ANYHOW, but I worked very hard to ensure I didn't have classes on Mon or Fri, so Presidents day isn't helping me here. |
| 20:28.38 | AnduinLothar | :P |
| 20:28.45 | Codayus | I already have 4-day weekedns every week. Couldn't they schedule the holidays for the middle of the week? |
| 20:29.31 | Beladona | then the rest of us wouldn't have 3 day weekends |
| 20:29.34 | Beladona | so no |
| 20:30.11 | Cairenn | krka: still 2-0 |
| 20:30.18 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 20:30.31 | Cairenn | and s.o.g. 11-2 :p |
| 20:30.53 | Codayus | I have fallen into apostasy. |
| 20:30.59 | Codayus | Vault is better than Mountain Dew. |
| 20:31.06 | Codayus | I'm sorry, but it's true. |
| 20:31.31 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
| 20:31.52 | AnduinLothar | what's vault? |
| 20:32.57 | Codayus | New soda from Coke. |
| 20:33.05 | AnduinLothar | hmmm |
| 20:33.11 | AnduinLothar | is it green? |
| 20:33.13 | Codayus | Citrus flavored, highly caffinated. Green bottle. |
| 20:33.15 | krka | s.o.g? |
| 20:33.16 | krka | damn it! |
| 20:33.18 | krka | 3-0 |
| 20:33.33 | Cairenn | oh, ooops! |
| 20:33.39 | Cairenn | shots-on-goal |
| 20:33.51 | Beladona | elema, everything I read suggests CS1 has an issue with 32bit TGA files |
| 20:33.58 | Codayus | http://www2.coca-cola.com/presscenter/newproducts_vault.html |
| 20:34.00 | krka | oh well... atleast got to teh finals |
| 20:34.08 | krka | it used to only be about usa and canada |
| 20:34.19 | krka | think this is the first time someone else made it to the finals |
| 20:34.20 | elema | hm |
| 20:34.25 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 20:34.33 | Cairenn | I'm glad to see it, don't get me wrong |
| 20:35.14 | Cairenn | but yeah, "time to watch Sweden kick Canadas ass", mmmhmmm, indeed! |
| 20:36.05 | Ktron | purl, cheer canada |
| 20:36.09 | krka | damn it! |
| 20:36.10 | krka | 4-0 |
| 20:36.19 | Ktron | purl, what good are you? |
| 20:36.21 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Ktron |
| 20:36.21 | Cairenn | oh, ooops, again! |
| 20:36.32 | krka | i wouldn't have been so annoying about it if i thought we stood a chance :P |
| 20:36.33 | Beladona | elema: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=1544 |
| 20:36.48 | Beladona | that explains the problem |
| 20:36.52 | Beladona | but not the solution for CS |
| 20:36.56 | Beladona | still looking for it |
| 20:36.58 | krka | i wouldn't go on like this if it were football or anything :P |
| 20:38.10 | Cairenn | rofl: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3298669/ |
| 20:39.04 | Cairenn | krka: neither would I |
| 20:48.15 | elema | good night guys |
| 20:48.24 | Cairenn | night elema |
| 20:48.34 | Cairenn | sheesh, no one follows the 5 second rule |
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| 20:51.32 | Cairenn | *purr* |
| 20:51.35 | Beladona | I do |
| 20:51.40 | Astryl | Kwakw! |
| 20:51.42 | Beladona | or I dont say anything |
| 20:51.42 | Astryl | -w |
| 20:51.45 | Beladona | one or the other |
| 20:51.47 | krka | what is the 5 second rule? |
| 20:52.03 | Beladona | say goodbye and wait, so people can reply |
| 20:52.06 | Beladona | =P |
| 20:52.07 | Astryl | krka, mana only regens if you haven't finished casting a spell that costed mana in the last 5 seconds. |
| 20:52.21 | Cairenn | when entering a channel, wait 5 sec to see what's going on before jumping in .... when leaving, wait 5 sec after saying bye so people can respond |
| 20:52.48 | Astryl | that's a differeny 5 sec rule. |
| 20:53.11 | Beladona | you have 5 seconds before you aren't allowed to eat something that fell on the floor |
| 20:53.15 | Astryl | There's another one too: To be safe, pull out 5 seconds before you think you'll... Err, you probably meant one of the first 3. |
| 20:53.17 | Beladona | that too |
| 20:53.21 | Cairenn | there's that one too, Beladona |
| 20:53.30 | Cairenn | Astryl: ROFL |
| 20:53.37 | Astryl | :) |
| 20:53.51 | Astryl | So I' |
| 20:53.57 | Astryl | So I'm preparing to localize my addon... |
| 20:54.13 | Astryl | Anyone know anyone fluent in any of the foreign languages wow supports, that would be willing to do some translations? |
| 20:54.31 | Codayus | Hmm, the food version of the 5-second rule - I always hear that as the 5-minute rule. |
| 20:54.37 | Beladona | Babelfish! |
| 20:54.41 | Codayus | Perhaps I hang out around college students too much. :-P |
| 20:54.52 | Cairenn | Codayus: ewww, 5 *minutes*? That's gross |
| 20:55.07 | krka | what's the difference? |
| 20:55.15 | AnduinLothar | well technically bacteria transfers immediately upon contact.. |
| 20:55.23 | Astryl | Well, I gotta run, but if anyone knows any willing translators, please have them e-mail me, cnervig@hotmail.com! |
| 20:55.42 | Cairenn | krka: s.o.g. 22-5 |
| 20:55.53 | Cairenn | they'd best get hustling |
| 20:55.59 | krka | i have given up |
| 20:56.10 | Cairenn | hey, they |
| 20:56.24 | Cairenn | they're getting silver, at the minimum, and that means something |
| 20:56.35 | Cairenn | just, they need to hustle, can't score without sog |
| 20:56.45 | Cairenn | more sog, better chance at goals |
| 20:59.09 | Cairenn | I think they are just overwhelmed at a) being in the finals and b) facing Canada a second time, after Canada wiped the floor with them the first time, so they are choking |
| 20:59.11 | krka | yeah i know, i have just given up on them winning gold :P |
| 20:59.45 | krka | can't realistically win it with this goal difference |
| 20:59.55 | Cairenn | it's *possible* |
| 21:00.07 | krka | almost sounds like you are comforting me, i assure you it's not necessary :) |
| 21:00.07 | Cairenn | but unlikely, you are correct |
| 21:00.30 | Cairenn | naw, just giving credit where credit is due - they did good to beat US and get in finals |
| 21:02.13 | krka | yes, i am impressed by that, swedens female hockey team has come a long way |
| 21:02.30 | krka | good for female hockey in general to have several competing nations too |
| 21:02.49 | Cairenn | agreed, completely |
| 21:03.40 | krka | note that i am only a sports geek when there is olympics or football/hockey (soccer for you?) world championship |
| 21:04.16 | Cairenn | hockey is the only one that I really follow ... I can enjoy other sports, but hockey rocks |
| 21:04.46 | Cairenn | what can I say? I'm Canadian ;) |
| 21:05.30 | krka | hockey is a fun sport to watch though |
| 21:05.53 | Cairenn | painful by times though |
| 21:06.03 | krka | you're playing too? |
| 21:06.08 | krka | or have played |
| 21:06.32 | Cairenn | not any more, played some back in High School, got one of the standard injuries that is so common in it |
| 21:06.46 | Cairenn | still causes problems now |
| 21:06.50 | krka | yeah, seems like a injure prone sport |
| 21:06.53 | krka | that sucks :/ |
| 21:07.17 | Cairenn | hockey, you don't get dislocated shoulder, you get separated shoulder ... that's what I got |
| 21:08.11 | krka | is that worse than dislocated? |
| 21:08.15 | krka | i really wouldn't know |
| 21:08.17 | Cairenn | and soft tissue injuries never fully heal, there's always a weakness left behind |
| 21:08.43 | Cairenn | in some ways ... dislocated, you just pop it back into the socket |
| 21:08.59 | krka | so worse long term, possibly better short term |
| 21:09.35 | Cairenn | oh, not better short term either ... wouldn't actually say either is "better" or "worse", they are just different |
| 21:11.08 | Cairenn | if you really care: http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/shouldersurgery/a/separation.htm |
| 21:12.44 | krka | no, don't really care about the specifics |
| 21:13.23 | krka | the less i know of things that can go wrong with my body, the better :P |
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| 21:14.11 | Iriel | You are aware that not knowing about something doesn't make it any less likely? right? |
| 21:14.31 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 21:15.27 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:24.08 | krka | but it makes me less worried |
| 21:24.43 | AnduinLothar | did they hotfix links to not work from macros recently? |
| 21:26.18 | krka | ooh... we have a goal against canada |
| 21:26.19 | krka | coo |
| 21:26.20 | krka | cool |
| 21:26.27 | Cairenn | nice |
| 21:27.28 | Iriel | AnduinLothar : Not that they've publicized anywhere |
| 21:27.55 | AnduinLothar | can't get any to work |
| 21:28.03 | Iriel | did they used to? |
| 21:28.42 | Guillotine | hehe. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=7202570&p=1&tmp=1#post7202570 |
| 21:28.44 | Guillotine | wasn't me |
| 21:28.55 | Guillotine | I think it was kremonte though. does'nt he play on bleeding hollow? |
| 21:30.36 | AnduinLothar | dunno.. |
| 21:37.48 | krka | gold for canada then |
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| 21:59.33 | Beladona | going home, seeya soon |
| 21:59.38 | Cairenn | later Beladona |
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| 22:05.02 | Cairenn | hi Crispix, I see you found us |
| 22:05.43 | id` | wasted another avening watching tv |
| 22:05.43 | Cairenn | ~unproductivity |
| 22:05.44 | purl | yay! |
| 22:05.49 | AnduinLothar | yay |
| 22:05.58 | id` | no! i wanna make stuff! |
| 22:05.59 | id` | :( |
| 22:06.05 | Iriel | I wasted most of my weekend playing xbox games, dont feel so bad |
| 22:06.07 | Cairenn | ~productivity |
| 22:06.08 | purl | yay! i mean.. boo. |
| 22:06.11 | AnduinLothar | I got 12hrs of sleep and have been sitting around in darn killing squirels and deer |
| 22:06.59 | Crispix | Cairenn indeed ^_^ |
| 22:07.13 | id` | But when i get to making things I stop at the first problem i encounter, and it takes like 2 days to 2 weeks. Only to do the same at the next minor problem. |
| 22:07.24 | Cairenn | :( id` |
| 22:07.32 | Iriel | well, this channel's here to get over those problem humps |
| 22:07.42 | Crispix | My friends going to crack up laughing... He mocks me how I change my UI every other day.. but.. *hangs head low* I haven't changed it in two days because I'm not sure how to move my mini-maps buttons location without Move Anything... |
| 22:08.02 | AnduinLothar | MobileMinimapButtons |
| 22:08.07 | id` | Visor! |
| 22:08.08 | id` | :p |
| 22:08.18 | Crispix | Does it move ... -any- mini-map button AnduinLothar? |
| 22:08.38 | id` | Visor does, but it has a very steep learning curve for end users |
| 22:08.39 | Crispix | because I have calculator buttons on my mini map now :) |
| 22:08.40 | AnduinLothar | any that are registered. If not you can register your own with a little scripting love |
| 22:08.45 | id` | but hey, go are on irc.. cant be hard then :P |
| 22:08.58 | Crispix | 'registered' ok.. does this mean, that the game recognises ? |
| 22:08.59 | id` | s/go/you/ |
| 22:09.24 | AnduinLothar | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=2340 |
| 22:10.02 | AnduinLothar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.05 | Crispix | Anduin, what if I've got a square minimap? |
| 22:10.11 | AnduinLothar | you lose |
| 22:10.15 | Iriel | So, Id' - what are you stuck on anyway? |
| 22:10.30 | AnduinLothar | square minimap goes byebye for 1.10 |
| 22:10.44 | Iriel | Err, no it doesn |
| 22:10.48 | Crispix | o_O. |
| 22:10.50 | Iriel | it gets easier for 1.10 |
| 22:10.54 | Iriel | We get official API support for it |
| 22:11.01 | Cairenn | it goes byebye? huh? news to me |
| 22:11.12 | AnduinLothar | well the current way goes bye bye. |
| 22:11.20 | AnduinLothar | they'll make an addon i'm sure |
| 22:11.30 | Crispix | make it a check box :) |
| 22:11.33 | Iriel | It'll be better in 1.10 since it wont require file overloading |
| 22:11.33 | Cairenn | I was starting to wonder if my little birdies were letting me down .... |
| 22:11.38 | Iriel | though I dont think the current way goes bye bye |
| 22:11.41 | Crispix | Square Minimap-Yes, No. |
| 22:11.42 | Iriel | It'll just be the 'wrong way' |
| 22:11.46 | Crispix | That'd be pretty spiffy |
| 22:11.54 | id` | Iriel: I made this thing that makes you enter meelee mode when you should and stops you from doing so when you shouldnt. But then Tekkub convinced me into using one of his addons to support mine (ApecialEvents), but i find that it's broken and my way was efficient enough to do the job. (killing a dependency effectively, wich was technically doing the same thing.) |
| 22:12.02 | AnduinLothar | framexml overridding goes bye bye, does it not? |
| 22:12.18 | Iriel | For .lua and .xml, yes |
| 22:12.21 | Iriel | for images, no |
| 22:12.28 | id` | The problem is that i didnt make a backup of the working thing, and i haven't released it. I did overwrite it and threw away 40 lines of (important) code. |
| 22:12.32 | Iriel | (And .toc - it goes away tehre too) |
| 22:12.35 | AnduinLothar | i'll take your word on it |
| 22:12.41 | Iriel | Ugh 8-( |
| 22:12.43 | Crispix | id` theres a 'Defend Me' mod, that when a mob attacks you, it places you in Melee mode.. not sure if it works.. you could probably gut the code and use it.. /laugh |
| 22:12.44 | id` | So now i'm going to hack that together again |
| 22:12.44 | AnduinLothar | till tonight anyway |
| 22:12.54 | Iriel | Now would be a good time to suggest you install subversion 8-) |
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| 22:13.07 | id` | Crispix: defendyourself, its rather horrible coded. it's my effort to redo it better :-) |
| 22:13.09 | Iriel | AnduinLothar : If you find out otherwise, tell slouken he's misleading us 8-) |
| 22:13.11 | AnduinLothar | DefendYourself |
| 22:13.22 | Codayus | id`: That's why you need a versioning system. |
| 22:13.29 | AnduinLothar | mmk, I'm behind on the ui board these days |
| 22:13.30 | Codayus | Even if it's only just you working on it. |
| 22:13.36 | id` | Codayus: probably |
| 22:13.44 | Codayus | SVN = teh win. |
| 22:13.45 | Crispix | id` Kinda figured that it was horribly written, hence my wondering if it worked... Btw. when you get yours working.. please tell me :) |
| 22:13.46 | AnduinLothar | i was under the impression all replacing was going bye bye |
| 22:13.48 | Iriel | id': subversion, it's not that hard. 8-) |
| 22:13.53 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/ |
| 22:14.01 | id` | thats all my releases |
| 22:14.07 | Crispix | but.. it works.? |
| 22:14.09 | id` | (I'm talking about idAutoAttack) |
| 22:14.10 | Crispix | Like.. as of .. right now? |
| 22:14.14 | Iriel | id': I use one for all of my code. |
| 22:14.15 | Codayus | I'm starting to wonder if it wouldn't be helpful to use SVN for term papers and stuff too... |
| 22:14.41 | id` | Codayus: we do that in the company i work. |
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| 22:14.45 | Iriel | I used to have most of the useful bits of my home directory in RCS (back in university) |
| 22:14.51 | Iriel | Very handy |
| 22:14.54 | id` | Codayus: but its not SVN but a dumber system, so the sales people understand |
| 22:15.08 | Codayus | Hrm, please tell me not Sourcesafe. :-P |
| 22:15.22 | id` | who did what when why how and for howlong |
| 22:15.27 | id` | no, its called Synergy |
| 22:15.32 | id` | *shrug* |
| 22:15.36 | Codayus | Not familar with it. |
| 22:15.39 | Iriel | Hm, is that source control or something more time tracking ish? |
| 22:15.51 | id` | all-in-one company thing |
| 22:15.56 | Codayus | Not sure how you'd manage to get something easier than TortoiseSVN for sales droids though... |
| 22:16.01 | id` | its badly coded dont wanna touch the code hehe |
| 22:16.14 | Codayus | ...ah, integration with various workflow/groupware/whatever stuff...that could be fun. |
| 22:16.21 | Crispix | id` check your pms :) |
| 22:16.43 | id` | Crispix: i didn't receive any. You need to register to send PM's on this network (due to bots) |
| 22:16.50 | id` | Crispix: /msg nickserv help register |
| 22:17.16 | Crispix | bah. |
| 22:17.22 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.22 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.26 | Crispix | I hate registering with nick serve. -_- |
| 22:17.55 | id` | Codayus: these people molest their PC by mistaking the UTP input for the USB input |
| 22:17.55 | Cairenn | only have to if you want to PM |
| 22:17.57 | Crispix | Anyway.. whats the slash command to activate your mob attacks me I auto gointo melee and whats your mini map does? |
| 22:18.08 | Codayus | *snerk* |
| 22:18.19 | Crispix | *Do .. (Does? wtf?) |
| 22:18.31 | id` | Crispix: As of now the auto attack thing does it automatically. but it breaks Bandi's, food and crowd control |
| 22:18.45 | Codayus | "...and what does your mini map do?" perhaps? :-) |
| 22:18.52 | Crispix | hehe :D yeah. |
| 22:19.02 | id` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4564 |
| 22:19.22 | id` | <commercial> http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4595 </commercial> |
| 22:19.25 | id` | ^^ |
| 22:20.45 | Cairenn | Codayus: only when I stop to think about it |
| 22:21.13 | Crispix | Spomeone else care to mention this on the 'addict; thread? 'You know your a UI design addict when: Your Winzip opens its 'extract to directory' command line (always to) c:\program files\World of Warcraft\interface\Addons\ |
| 22:21.48 | Crispix | *is ashamed to admit his does*... |
| 22:22.41 | Codayus | Ah ha! Found it on my PDA! Victory! |
| 22:22.49 | Cairenn | lol Codayus |
| 22:23.28 | Codayus | I should get some business cards printed up. Or...are they still business cards if your a student? |
| 22:23.42 | Codayus | Crispix: Hmm, actually, I don't think I've got anything about Ui design on my PDA. |
| 22:23.50 | Crispix | :O |
| 22:23.54 | Cairenn | you know you are a UI Design Addict when your UIs are the first thing you transfer from your old computer to your new one |
| 22:24.02 | Codayus | A couple dozen pages of discussion and calculation about priest fear, talents, and tactics though. |
| 22:24.09 | Codayus | er...gear |
| 22:24.24 | Iriel | You know you're a wow ui design addict when you can do: |
| 22:24.27 | Iriel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.29 | Crispix | ... Cairenn, when I get my new machine.. I -fully- plan do this. |
| 22:24.32 | Iriel | On your linux command prompt |
| 22:24.36 | AnduinLothar | when you have a copy of wow, multiple Interface folders and your fav code editor on your ipod |
| 22:24.38 | Iriel | and have it work 8-) |
| 22:24.42 | Codayus | Iriel: You win. |
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| 22:24.57 | Crispix | [17:24] AnduinLothar: when you have a copy of wow, multiple Interface folders and your fav code editor on your ipod -- THAT needs to go in the thread Anduin... |
| 22:24.59 | Cairenn | Iriel always wins |
| 22:25.18 | Iriel | I dont really think 50% of what I do is "UI Design" per se tho |
| 22:25.26 | Crispix | ! |
| 22:25.37 | Iriel | It's more ui-subsystem-abuse |
| 22:25.44 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:26.12 | Cairenn | careful now, you get into abusing the ui too much and you're gonna make Tem jealous .. you know that's his venue |
| 22:26.13 | Crispix | Y ou know your a WoW UI Design Addict when: You design your entire interface on an IPod.. you know via that little touch sensitive scrolly wheel? |
| 22:26.26 | AnduinLothar | mmm. no |
| 22:26.32 | Crispix | haven' |
| 22:26.36 | Crispix | t done that yet ? :P |
| 22:26.45 | Iriel | Tem breaks it, I just abuse it |
| 22:27.10 | Cairenn | point |
| 22:29.23 | futrtrubl | anyone bored and want to vote on something they know nothing about? ;'] |
| 22:29.30 | id` | me |
| 22:29.38 | Cairenn | mrh? |
| 22:29.44 | id` | almost got itAutoAttack working with CC/Busy spells again |
| 22:29.53 | futrtrubl | ;'] then please head to http://forums.edowner.net/viewtopic.php?t=7 |
| 22:29.57 | id` | hurray for remembering |
| 22:29.59 | Crispix | futrtrubl I voted in the last United States Presidential election and my last vote got thrown away (voted Bush), so.. why not :) |
| 22:30.08 | Crispix | err.. voted Kerry |
| 22:30.18 | Crispix | *smacks self incredibly hard with a spoon* |
| 22:30.34 | futrtrubl | that's quite a spelling mistake Crispix ;'] |
| 22:30.41 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:30.55 | Crispix | yeah.. talking to the gf about Bush.. why I hate him so much... |
| 22:30.56 | id` | keys are right next to eachother |
| 22:31.10 | id` | *bash.org deja-vu* |
| 22:31.13 | Crispix | just woke up.. and well.. yeah.. brain is still fried.. was working on the UI until 5 IM |
| 22:31.29 | Crispix | im.. see? mistakes all over the damn place... |
| 22:31.32 | Crispix | AM. |
| 22:31.40 | id` | testing the addon |
| 22:31.44 | id` | might release it if it works :p |
| 22:32.00 | futrtrubl | 5 instant messagaes don't take too long ;'] |
| 22:32.02 | Crispix | id` I'm about to go 'test' your Mob attacks me I jump into melee mode :) |
| 22:34.18 | id` | Crispix: thats what it does, just dont waste bandi's with 1.9-1 in battle |
| 22:35.03 | Crispix | WHATS IT DO? |
| 22:35.07 | Crispix | err... |
| 22:35.15 | Crispix | sorry.. was registering for a website |
| 22:36.02 | id` | ^^ |
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| 22:36.06 | Crispix | had to have caps for WoWInterface's auto-bot registering control thing.. you know where it asks you to enter several letters? |
| 22:36.15 | Crispix | like YHQTHISSUCKS |
| 22:36.18 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 22:36.25 | Crispix | had to put those in :) |
| 22:36.31 | Crispix | forgot to turn off my caps :) |
| 22:38.17 | Crispix | Cairenn does a 'Hi' thread work in off topic for WoWInterface.com? |
| 22:38.22 | Crispix | or should I just blend in? |
| 22:38.33 | Cairenn | you can "hi" in the ChitChat if you want to |
| 22:38.41 | Crispix | ok :) |
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| 22:42.02 | id` | Anyone here have a crowd contol spell? |
| 22:42.07 | id` | on his char? |
| 22:42.12 | id` | need you to test my addon for 1 sec |
| 22:42.26 | Cairenn | poly on my mage ... |
| 22:42.30 | Crispix | You didn't say what kinda crowd control spell :) |
| 22:42.34 | id` | cause it works on my warlock |
| 22:42.39 | id` | lol Crispix |
| 22:43.35 | Crispix | erm |
| 22:44.00 | Crispix | WoW is having issues authenticating |
| 22:44.25 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/beta/idAutoAttack.zip |
| 22:44.29 | Crispix | anyone know why that'd be the case? |
| 22:44.43 | id` | Please see how the meelee attacking goes with CC'ing and while eating in combat etc |
| 22:44.55 | id` | Crispix: doing fine on EU :-) |
| 22:45.15 | Crispix | *shakefist* :P |
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| 22:45.59 | Crispix | ok wtf.... |
| 22:46.02 | Kremonte | anyone around not hardware-retarded? |
| 22:46.04 | Crispix | mines not authenticating? |
| 22:46.09 | Kremonte | i need hewp ; ; |
| 22:46.19 | Crispix | Krem I can try to help.... |
| 22:46.31 | Crispix | COME ON connect .. |
| 22:46.32 | Crispix | wtf? |
| 22:46.33 | Kremonte | my wow is broken too |
| 22:46.35 | Kremonte | i cant get on at all lol |
| 22:46.39 | Kremonte | anywaysh |
| 22:46.46 | Crispix | Yours hanging on the Authenticate screen too? |
| 22:46.57 | Kremonte | either that or dc'ing before i get on, multitude of errors |
| 22:47.00 | Kremonte | but yea cant get on whatsoever |
| 22:47.14 | Crispix | I'm having the same issue right now |
| 22:47.18 | Crispix | I don't think its us |
| 22:47.22 | Kremonte | anyways, i need a new video card, and i'm pretty much settled on an XFX geforce 7800gt PCIE |
| 22:47.23 | Cairenn | service unavailable on the forums |
| 22:47.34 | Kremonte | so i need a new mobo that can handle PCIE, since my current one is AGP |
| 22:48.11 | Kremonte | but i have a socket 478 CPU, and i cant find any boards that are 478/pcie compatible :S |
| 22:48.23 | Kremonte | is my only hope to get a new CPU too, on top of card + mobo? |
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| 22:49.00 | id` | So anyone tried idAutoAttack yet? :P |
| 22:49.09 | id` | bedtime soon, wanna upload it .. or not.. |
| 22:49.12 | Crispix | id` I'll be trying it as soon as I can get into game :) |
| 22:49.19 | id` | kay |
| 22:49.23 | Crispix | YAY |
| 22:49.28 | Crispix | we're handshaking now .. |
| 22:49.31 | Crispix | AND..... I'm in! |
| 22:49.42 | Crispix | time to go check this :) |
| 22:49.51 | id` | :-) |
| 22:50.36 | Crispix | do I get a 'Thanks to Crispix (the one w/his white polar bear Milk) for testing it.. in the text file ? |
| 22:50.37 | Crispix | :D |
| 22:51.07 | Cairenn | well, at the very least, you get the honour of being the first to use it |
| 22:51.22 | Crispix | indeed... |
| 22:52.08 | Cairenn | and on that note, afk for a bit |
| 22:52.25 | Crispix | hows you? |
| 22:52.42 | Crispix | oops |
| 22:54.58 | Crispix | erm |
| 22:54.59 | Crispix | Id.. |
| 22:56.00 | Crispix | IT WORKS! :D |
| 22:56.07 | Crispix | and incredibly well... too. |
| 22:56.52 | id` | kool |
| 22:57.41 | Crispix | Anyone wanna do me a favor? |
| 22:58.10 | Crispix | I don't expect anyone to know this.. but it'd be nice to know.. |
| 22:58.21 | Crispix | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?862049 on my Toon.. why do I have a +1% chance to critical? |
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| 23:00.05 | Crispix | hey id`... |
| 23:00.16 | Crispix | I have a really.. really spiffy idea for you |
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| 23:01.24 | Crispix | id' ? |
| 23:01.26 | Crispix | you there? |
| 23:05.56 | futrtrubl | I am |
| 23:08.50 | id` | right sorry was leveling |
| 23:08.50 | id` | :p |
| 23:08.53 | id` | ding 24, btw |
| 23:09.02 | Crispix | ok.. heres an idea |
| 23:09.04 | Crispix | (Congrats) |
| 23:09.26 | Crispix | Since it auto sets you into melee mode... can you make it take you out of melee mode too? |
| 23:09.32 | Crispix | like.. when your done killing something? |
| 23:09.38 | Crispix | it'll sheeth your weapons? |
| 23:10.08 | id` | it will take it out of meelee mode when the fight ends or your target is CC'ed or you are busy with more important stuff |
| 23:10.16 | id` | it wont sheeth your weapon |
| 23:10.18 | Crispix | indeed |
| 23:10.19 | Crispix | but.. |
| 23:10.24 | Crispix | can you make it sheeth your weapon? |
| 23:10.38 | Crispix | like .. after your done with combat? |
| 23:10.50 | Crispix | it'd be kinda nice to have that function |
| 23:11.44 | id` | mm maybe |
| 23:12.20 | id` | but not today :( |
| 23:12.23 | id` | 00:12 |
| 23:12.28 | id` | *adds it to todo list* |
| 23:13.09 | Crispix | *hopes he gets credit for the idea .. because he's never seen a mod do that before and it'd be REALLY nice to have..* |
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| 23:16.40 | id` | heh ^^ |
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| 23:19.53 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/addons/todo.txt |
| 23:19.54 | id` | :P |
| 23:20.21 | Crispix | O_O |
| 23:20.25 | Crispix | your going to digipen? |
| 23:20.37 | id` | thats where i IRC from |
| 23:20.44 | id` | <-- here |
| 23:21.19 | id` | It's a friend's server. I got unlimited webspace and bandwitdh there, only 1 SQL DB :P |
| 23:21.28 | id` | (not like i use much) |
| 23:23.24 | id` | o well gotta go |
| 23:23.28 | id` | purl, nn |
| 23:23.30 | purl | nini |
| 23:39.35 | Fanook | oh good, my server melts tonight |
| 23:42.29 | futrtrubl | melts? |
| 23:46.01 | Fanook | AQ is opening |
| 23:46.53 | Kremonte | aq opened yesterday morning for us |
| 23:46.55 | Kremonte | that was nice |
| 23:46.56 | Kremonte | slept thru it.. |
| 23:47.30 | Fanook | i plan on staying away from WoW until like wed |
| 23:47.36 | Kremonte | ya |
| 23:47.40 | Kremonte | cant get on WoW right now |
| 23:47.42 | Kremonte | still packed to hell |
| 23:49.21 | Corrodias | pack..oh. aq. yeah. |
| 23:52.10 | zeeg | www.wowguru.com/small.jpg www.wowguru.com/long.jpg |
| 23:52.14 | zeeg | how do those look |
| 23:56.58 | Iriel | Why is the # bold on one and not the other? |
| 23:57.19 | Iriel | Personally i'd put the name on the first line too |
| 23:57.26 | Iriel | i.e. swap top and bottom lines on both |
| 23:57.46 | zeeg | hrm |
| 23:58.39 | Iriel | I'm also not sure I like the L60NED centered on small.jpg |
| 23:58.41 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/sig/129047.gif - thats why i had it setup that way |
