| 00:00.13 | Iriel | The size difference on that one makes it less problematic |
| 00:00.20 | Iriel | Yours has the 2 pieces of information far too close |
| 00:00.26 | Iriel | size-size |
| 00:00.33 | zeeg | hrm |
| 00:00.38 | zeeg | ill try just the same size |
| 00:00.39 | Iriel | This is of course just my opinion 8-) |
| 00:00.57 | Iriel | If you made the class info a bit smaller, and the name a bit bigger, it might work better? |
| 00:01.20 | Iriel | (Also, you should probably use something other than .jpg, .png for example) |
| 00:01.53 | zeeg | this is just an example :P |
| 00:02.00 | zeeg | itll be .gif |
| 00:02.09 | Iriel | Why .gif instead of .png? |
| 00:02.26 | zeeg | gif transparency is accepted more than png |
| 00:02.44 | Crispix | gif is lossful though... |
| 00:02.53 | zeeg | in this situation it works best |
| 00:02.54 | zeeg | :) |
| 00:02.55 | Crispix | PNG has a lossless quality about it that makes it fantastic |
| 00:04.03 | Iriel | gif is SO not lossful |
| 00:04.09 | Iriel | it's indexed, but it's not lossy |
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| 00:05.45 | Crispix | mmm good point |
| 00:08.03 | Crispix | erm... |
| 00:08.22 | Crispix | Titan Honor + only shows a rank once you acchive something Higher than Scout.. right? |
| 00:12.24 | Iriel | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/random/long2.png |
| 00:12.34 | Iriel | zeeg: Something like that, perhaps |
| 00:12.59 | Iriel | Though with your font, obviously |
| 00:13.17 | zeeg | ah |
| 00:13.18 | zeeg | i like it |
| 00:13.28 | Iriel | 24 point for the name, 12 point for the others |
| 00:13.38 | Iriel | (for the font I used, YMMV) |
| 00:13.52 | zeeg | it wont look quite as good once its generated so fonts not a huge deal |
| 00:14.08 | Iriel | Why not? You should find yourself an anti-aliasing generator |
| 00:14.13 | zeeg | i use GD |
| 00:14.18 | zeeg | i havent a clue about anti aliasing :) |
| 00:14.33 | Iriel | Well, can you generate it at double size, then reduce before saving? |
| 00:14.39 | Iriel | Or do you generate on-the-fly always? |
| 00:14.42 | zeeg | probably |
| 00:14.46 | zeeg | but it would be a pain in the ass :P |
| 00:14.50 | zeeg | and that might not work too good |
| 00:14.54 | Iriel | But it'd look much better |
| 00:14.56 | zeeg | fonts seem to mess up a lot of the time when doing that |
| 00:15.14 | Iriel | The only thing you may run into issues with is alpha |
| 00:15.24 | Iriel | since so many programs get it wrong when scaling |
| 00:15.27 | zeeg | well these specific ones wont use any transparency |
| 00:20.43 | Iriel | zeeg: It looks like GD provides stringFT which can do truetype and antialiasing, if your libgd has truetype support |
| 00:21.28 | zeeg | hrm it does |
| 00:22.15 | Iriel | Something to try if you want it to look better 8-) |
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| 00:38.07 | Iriel | Welcome back |
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| 00:38.25 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 00:40.07 | Cairenn | anything of note happen while I was afk that I need to attend to? |
| 00:40.36 | Iriel | not that I recall |
| 00:41.18 | Cairenn | k |
| 01:12.43 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.48 | Cairenn | can I get an opinion here, please? |
| 01:14.22 | Cairenn | if you had a mod you'd created, but pulled it because it was so hopelessly out of date, and you had folks asking you to put it back up ... would you? |
| 01:18.54 | Fanook | does it work? |
| 01:19.29 | Cairenn | more or less ... what is there still works, but the new stuff that's been added to the game since I've quit aren't in it, obviously |
| 01:20.30 | Fanook | if the functionality in the mod works, i'd put it back up with a notice saying it's never going to be updated by you |
| 01:20.35 | Cairenn | I've still got folks bugging me to get it ported over for WoW and EQ2, as well |
| 01:21.14 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.13 | Cairenn | I'm actually considering getting caught up on expansions, so that I can bring it up to date for them ... |
| 01:25.23 | Iriel | Maybe add a note asking for a volunteer from the user community to assume maintainence responsibilities? |
| 01:25.51 | Cairenn | well, that's what they are all saying .... put it back, we'll get it caught up for you .... |
| 01:26.17 | Cairenn | but, just sits wrong with me to have something with my name on it floating around out there that isn't working properly |
| 01:26.40 | Cairenn | and frankly, there are much much nicer mods out there, I've no idea why they want mine back |
| 01:28.14 | Cairenn | in order to get it caught up properly is going to involve quit a bit of graphics work, not just code |
| 01:29.23 | Cairenn | if it were nothing but code work that needed catching up, I'd likely not be quite so hesitant, but I don't want someone messing up my graphics |
| 01:30.22 | Cairenn | nothing like taking something that all fits together nicely, and throw something that just doesn't fit well on top of it :p |
| 01:35.49 | Crispix | woah. |
| 01:35.56 | Cairenn | ? |
| 01:36.17 | Crispix | Greys anatomy.,.. blipped around for a couple minutes then it recovered. |
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| 01:47.08 | Crispix | omg.. rofl |
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| 02:16.37 | WobSleep | ... |
| 02:16.59 | Wobin_ | Okay, who had info about rerouting the connection to WoW? |
| 02:17.08 | Wobin_ | Cause I'd really go for that =) |
| 02:22.18 | Codayus | What are you trying to do? |
| 02:22.42 | Wobin_ | Trying to access the game from China =P |
| 02:23.09 | Wobin_ | I can connect maybe one in every fifty or so attempts |
| 02:23.15 | Codayus | Really? |
| 02:23.17 | Codayus | That's odd. |
| 02:23.36 | Wobin_ | no no, not odd, bloody irritating =P |
| 02:25.39 | Crispix | Could someone answer me a question? |
| 02:25.39 | Crispix | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?862049 <-- whats giving me the +1% Critical Hit chance? |
| 02:26.32 | Crispix | Anyone know? |
| 02:26.52 | Codayus | I'll go with...hmm. Bug? |
| 02:27.11 | Codayus | Had a weird buff on when you submitted last? |
| 02:27.13 | Shadowd | Maybe the feature doesn't work and it just adds a random number to your profile? |
| 02:27.23 | Tain | Maybe your mom did it? |
| 02:27.25 | Codayus | Ya, bug seems most likely. |
| 02:27.31 | Crispix | nope.. because it's been there since level 19 |
| 02:27.32 | Wobin_ | I'd have said Killer Instinct, but you don't have that talent =P |
| 02:28.01 | Codayus | I checked your talents first thing, but you don't have anything +crit talents... |
| 02:28.15 | Crispix | yeah... I know.... thats what makes it so odd |
| 02:28.16 | Codayus | s/anything/any/ |
| 02:28.43 | Shadowd | Maybe it's applying the crit from AGI? |
| 02:29.03 | Codayus | Uh...very much doubt it. |
| 02:29.08 | Crispix | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-hunter&ThreadID=1034398 |
| 02:29.08 | Crispix | lol |
| 02:30.12 | Wobin_ | Base: 1 Items: 1 |
| 02:30.20 | Wobin_ | so it is applying it from your ag+ |
| 02:31.00 | Codayus | Wobin_: Uh...base 1, items 0, right? |
| 02:31.22 | Codayus | The calculation is off in any case. |
| 02:31.38 | Codayus | I'm pretty sure lvl 20 hunter will get > 1% crit from 59 agility. <shrug> |
| 02:32.10 | Codayus | But yeah, I guess that's what it's doing. |
| 02:32.16 | Shadowd | *will check once server lets me in* |
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| 02:32.33 | Wob | sorry, did you get that reply? |
| 02:32.34 | Codayus | Ah, yes, that *is* what it's doing. |
| 02:32.39 | Codayus | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?85135 |
| 02:32.50 | Crispix | What? |
| 02:32.59 | Crispix | Whats doing the crit chance? |
| 02:33.04 | Wob | Your Ag |
| 02:33.10 | Codayus | See that profile? +18% crit? That's coming from agility. |
| 02:33.21 | Wob | Well +5 from items too |
| 02:33.26 | Codayus | Or rather, 13% of it is, and 5% from items. |
| 02:33.27 | Codayus | Which is right. |
| 02:33.54 | Crispix | Codayus,.. How do you get your rank to stay? |
| 02:34.01 | Codayus | ? |
| 02:34.13 | Crispix | I'm a scout right now....... but my rank.. won't stick |
| 02:34.18 | Codayus | Stick? |
| 02:34.23 | Crispix | see how it says corpral? |
| 02:34.36 | Shadowd | It'll randomly show and not show the icon when you upload your profile? |
| 02:35.16 | Crispix | I'm a scout ... and yet.. when I have Honor + on titan.. it won't show that rank either. |
| 02:35.29 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 02:35.32 | Codayus | I don't have that issue. |
| 02:35.35 | Codayus | <shrug> |
| 02:35.36 | Crispix | is it because i'm so low? |
| 02:35.55 | Shadowd | Shouldn't be |
| 02:36.05 | Codayus | AFAIK, rank decays to private/scout, but will never drop below that. Lvl shouldn't matter. |
| 02:36.09 | Shadowd | Rank cap is 3 at 20, so that shouldn't make a difference |
| 02:37.08 | Crispix | maybe its because I haven't 'reached' private yet |
| 02:37.36 | Shadowd | ? |
| 02:37.58 | Crispix | I haven't killed enough orcs, yet.... |
| 02:38.04 | Crispix | to get to private :) |
| 02:38.20 | Wob | Go! |
| 02:38.21 | Shadowd | You mean you don't actually have the rank, you'll get it tomorrow? |
| 02:38.23 | Wob | Kill more horde! |
| 02:38.55 | Codayus | Oh, right. |
| 02:39.05 | Codayus | Have to qualify one week, and then your a private for life. |
| 02:39.39 | Wob | Hehe, once you join the army, you can never get out =) |
| 02:40.51 | Codayus | BTW, if anyone is interested in tunneling games across the net, I'd recommend hamachi as a starting place. |
| 02:40.56 | Codayus | http://www.hamachi.cc/ |
| 02:41.09 | Wob | woo |
| 02:41.10 | Wob | ta |
| 02:41.49 | Wob | who wants to test this thing out with me? =) |
| 02:42.19 | Crispix | what.. thing? |
| 02:42.28 | Shadowd | hamachi |
| 02:42.37 | Crispix | oh |
| 02:42.41 | Crispix | its ... odd |
| 02:51.09 | Crispix | erm |
| 02:51.16 | Crispix | Is Sargeras down? |
| 02:52.26 | Fanook | hamachi rocks |
| 02:53.05 | Wob | Does it work for WoW? |
| 02:53.15 | Fanook | dont know, i dont need it for WoW :) |
| 02:53.22 | Crispix | what exactly is it? |
| 02:53.35 | Fanook | i use it to punch through the firewalls i've got set up at home while i'm at school |
| 02:53.53 | Tain | Not as good as Heihachi though. |
| 02:54.25 | Wob | yes but he has that chi-punch thing going for him |
| 02:55.23 | Crispix | wow.. servers are laggy tonight |
| 02:59.03 | Iriel | I can't see how Hamachi would be useful for wow |
| 02:59.14 | Iriel | it's for peer-to-peer pseudo lan connections |
| 03:00.32 | Iriel | Other than possibly routing over it |
| 03:00.39 | Iriel | and doing some kind of NAT at the other end |
| 03:10.31 | Wob | That would still solve my issues |
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| 03:29.05 | Cairenn | Iriel, getting the impression we should both be taking a break from the Blizz UI forums for a while |
| 03:29.36 | Cairenn | you're getting almost as terse as I am |
| 03:30.48 | Tain | I knew better tonight than to even look at them. |
| 03:33.59 | Tain | I know that I'm usually a happy sunshine rainbow of helpfulness on the forum, but I'm not quite feeling it today. |
| 03:34.35 | Cairenn | "off the top of your head, can you think of what kind of site I should look into for information on the success/failure of the Declaration of the Rights of the Child? Don't go to any lengths, just anything popping up besides UNICEF and the United Nations website?" |
| 03:36.01 | Tain | If you're asking people on a WoW forum for help with child welfare you forfeit your parental rights. |
| 03:37.49 | Cairenn | my daughter is looking for info on the success/failure of the Declaration ... I'm not asking for help for myself :p |
| 03:38.35 | Tain | Oh that's different then. :) |
| 03:40.56 | Wob | http://www.canadiancrc.com/UN_CRC_webpage/UN_CRC.htm ? |
| 03:41.54 | Cairenn | "besides UNICEF and the United Nations website?" ;) |
| 03:42.48 | Wob | I can't help besides a generic google search then =) |
| 03:43.12 | Cairenn | no worries, appreciate the thought :) |
| 03:43.34 | Cairenn | I'm going through the google search too, helping her sort the chaff from the wheat |
| 03:43.58 | Tain | I alwasy forget, which is the good part, the chaff or the wheat? |
| 03:44.04 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:44.05 | Wob | wheat =) |
| 03:44.30 | Tain | I mean it's easier with some things. "I'm separating the chocolate from the wheat." |
| 03:44.44 | Wob | depends on if you want to bake bread or not |
| 03:44.48 | Codayus | Top of my head thoughts - what does sucess or failure mean, in context? How would you measure it? What kind of professional journals would the kind of person who is trained to measure that sort of thing publish in? Then go track them down and look through a db of that journal. |
| 03:45.26 | Iriel | Cairenn : Is that because they're full of the same old crap again and again and again? |
| 03:49.50 | Cairenn | Iriel: well, she already has the UN and UNICEF sites as references, she was looking for other *reputable* sites to source as well. I was just helping her sort through the ones that would be considered as such and those that would make her teacher scoff for her taking data from it. |
| 03:50.06 | Codayus | Erm, also, did you mean the Declaration or Convention? They appear to be different documents. |
| 03:50.26 | Codayus | Heh, Wikipedia has some info. But that's obviously *not* reputable. :-P |
| 03:50.33 | Wob | I think Iriel was referring to the WoW forums, Cair =) |
| 03:50.46 | Wob | But you may be onto something there =) |
| 03:51.48 | Cairenn | when you (Iriel) respond with "no" ... the rest of us know that you are getting fed up |
| 03:53.41 | Cairenn | (the "no" being the sum total of your response, that is) |
| 03:54.39 | Codayus | Hmm, the RCW project may be helpful. It's related to the Convention, it looks reputable, and it has some data. It's a bit narrowly focused though. |
| 03:54.44 | Codayus | http://www.law.yale.edu/rcw/ |
| 03:55.18 | Cairenn | Codayus: nice, thanks |
| 03:56.16 | Cairenn | heh, she says "no more for right now, I've got lots to go through now" |
| 03:56.27 | Codayus | Heh |
| 03:56.30 | Codayus | I know the feeling. :-) |
| 03:58.23 | Iriel | As much as i'm tempted to make macro responses to FAQ's, I think 'No.' is more polite than "Go read the FAQ thread you lazy retard" |
| 03:58.38 | Cairenn | *hug* |
| 03:59.00 | Cairenn | you're a good person Iriel |
| 04:00.17 | Cairenn | besides which, I'm not sure you would be physically capable of actually going ahead and saying something like that ... you might think it real hard, but I don't think you could ever actually say it |
| 04:00.26 | Iriel | Oh, try me! |
| 04:00.44 | Iriel | I may be nice, but I have little tolerance for those who are too feeble to help themselves. |
| 04:00.59 | Iriel | (feeble through lack of effort, not inability) |
| 04:01.07 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 04:01.17 | Cairenn | but still, you'd say it much more politely than that |
| 04:01.33 | Codayus | Hey, at least you actually answer questions in that forum. I'm not a good person, and don't. :-/ |
| 04:03.27 | Cairenn | Codayus: just because you don't subject yourself to that forum doesn't mean you aren't a good person |
| 04:03.33 | Codayus | Heh |
| 04:05.03 | Codayus | Well, on the plus side, when I checked Iriel's recent posts to see what you guys were talking about, I actually found a question I could sort of answer. Wee... |
| 04:05.12 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 04:08.50 | Codayus | Arg, urge to cry rising. I think I'll stop reading the UI forums agin. :-( |
| 04:10.07 | Cairenn | heh |
| 04:10.12 | Codayus | The G15 Mod thread pushed me over the edge. How many times will people read obviously correct things, then refuse to believe it? *mutter* |
| 04:10.31 | Cairenn | yup, you definitely aren't masochistic enough Codayus ;) |
| 04:10.46 | Wobin_ | hrm, where is the hosts file stored in a windows box? |
| 04:10.52 | Codayus | XP? |
| 04:10.55 | Wobin_ | yeah |
| 04:11.09 | Codayus | Really insane path. Let me check... |
| 04:11.10 | Fanook | windows/system/hosts.txt? |
| 04:11.31 | Fanook | or something like that, i think |
| 04:11.42 | Codayus | Like that, but it's a bit weirder. |
| 04:11.58 | Tain | windows\system32\drivers\etc |
| 04:12.06 | Wobin_ | brilliant |
| 04:12.13 | Wobin_ | (and yes... weird =)) |
| 04:12.17 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:12.25 | Wobin_ | Thank you =) |
| 04:12.47 | Wobin_ | Which other channel, Cair? =) |
| 04:12.54 | Codayus | The etc part makes a little bit of sense. The drivers part confuzzels me. |
| 04:13.32 | Cairenn | cosmos |
| 04:14.11 | Wobin_ | hrm, you folk may be able to help =) |
| 04:14.45 | Wobin_ | I can never seem to resolve img.photobucket.com files on my firefox, but if I change the address to www.photobucket, it works fine |
| 04:14.55 | Cairenn | " i got a problem with rougehelper." .... did you make sure you were applying it with the proper brush? if you use a foundation sponge, it will be all big and blotchy, whereas if you use a q-tip, it'll be streaky ... you have to make sure you are using the rouge brush |
| 04:15.02 | Codayus | Heh |
| 04:15.03 | Wobin_ | (however, for some reason, img.photobucket resolves to a 192 ip...) |
| 04:15.28 | Wobin_ | rougehelper sounds like a Japanese contraption that holds your face still with robotic arms =) |
| 04:16.03 | Codayus | 192.168.*?, you mean? The 192.* class A is generally routable. |
| 04:16.16 | Wobin_ | true.. it's 192.67 |
| 04:16.51 | Wobin_ | oh wait |
| 04:16.57 | Wobin_ | it's resolving as a different ip now |
| 04:17.19 | Codayus | That being said, it doesn't resolve to that for me. |
| 04:17.33 | Codayus | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.45 | Wobin_ | anyway, I can't seem to see the img.photobucket files as an image |
| 04:17.56 | Wobin_ | I have to copy/paste the address and replace the img with www |
| 04:18.34 | Wobin_ | Which can be problematic when I'm viewing LJ comic community posts =P |
| 04:19.08 | Wobin_ | Is there any way I can have the img.photobucket addresses redone into www.photobucket ones? |
| 04:19.18 | Iriel | Sounds like wacky routing in your organization, or a broken DNS cache upstream of you |
| 04:19.21 | Iriel | Or your hosts file |
| 04:19.35 | Iriel | OR you've accidently blocked images from img.photobucket in firefox |
| 04:19.41 | Iriel | It's easier to do than you'd think |
| 04:19.58 | Iriel | Actually, I suspect the latter is the most likely |
| 04:20.34 | Codayus | Let's see... looking at the two domains, they do resolve to different ip addresses. But a hosts file, proxy, or firefox extension is all probably the most likely culperate. |
| 04:20.37 | Wobin_ | one sec, I'll try in IE |
| 04:20.49 | Wobin_ | My hosts file is essentially empty atm |
| 04:21.11 | Codayus | I assume you aren't doing anything funky like running your own DNS. :-) |
| 04:21.21 | Wobin_ | nope =) |
| 04:21.49 | Iriel | In firefox, go to Tools -> Options -> Images: Exceptions |
| 04:21.53 | Wobin_ | Just getting red 'x's in IE |
| 04:22.07 | Iriel | Sorry, that last part is [Web Features] Load Images -> Exceptions |
| 04:22.30 | Iriel | And check that you dont have "For the originating web site only" checked |
| 04:23.19 | Wobin_ | no change, Ir =( |
| 04:26.07 | Iriel | By 'no change' do you mean "I looked and all my settings are fine" |
| 04:26.12 | Iriel | Or do you mean "I changed something" |
| 04:26.19 | Iriel | .."but it didn't fix my problem" |
| 04:26.20 | Wobin_ | erm, the former =) |
| 04:27.00 | Iriel | So it's not listed as an exception, and the checkbox isn't checked - hm. |
| 04:27.23 | Codayus | If it was me, I'd try using wget on a URL firefox is choking on, and see if it fetches the image correctly. |
| 04:27.44 | Codayus | That'd help narrow it down. You probably don't have easy access to wget though... |
| 04:27.58 | Wobin_ | I can try for a windows version of it... |
| 04:28.08 | Codayus | They're fairly easy to find, yeah. |
| 04:30.39 | Codayus | Uh...didn't you mention earlier you were in China? Any chance you're running afoul of any national-level firewalls or filtering? |
| 04:31.05 | Wobin_ | Possibly... |
| 04:31.18 | Wobin_ | but again, it's only for the img.photobucket |
| 04:31.30 | Wobin_ | once I change it to www.photbucket it works fine |
| 04:31.36 | Codayus | My understanding is that it triggers on some pretty random stuff, and if memory serves, it'd look a little bit like your problem. I'm really not familiar with the technical details though. |
| 04:31.49 | Wobin_ | And I don't think the chinese are silly enoug to miss that in their filtering |
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| 04:34.01 | Codayus | Actually, I understand that the filtering often does tend to be pretty random and patchy. But I really have no information on that. |
| 04:34.28 | Wobin_ | So is there any method on my end to like permanently redirect any img request to www? |
| 04:35.03 | Iriel | Wobin - I suspect greasemonkey could do it |
| 04:35.48 | Iriel | it's a firefox plugin |
| 04:37.02 | Cairenn | Wobin_: were you able to bring it up in the IE browser? |
| 04:37.14 | Wobin_ | no =\ |
| 04:38.00 | Codayus | Depending on the nature of your problem, a line added to your hosts file could fix it. A more comprehensive solution would be to run a proxy on your machine that rewrote requests on the fly. I'm sure I ran across a program that did that (in an effort to block ads, rather than to make images appear) but I can't recall it now... |
| 04:38.34 | Codayus | Oh! |
| 04:38.40 | Codayus | I should have just googled to start with. |
| 04:38.42 | Codayus | http://www.matthewstinson.net/blog/archives/2005/08/11/greasemonkeying-the-great-firewall/ |
| 04:39.20 | Codayus | Yeah, img.phootbucket is being blocked by the Great Firewall. |
| 04:39.46 | Wobin_ | hehe brilliant! |
| 04:41.02 | Cairenn | oh lord ... "Oh" is back ... |
| 04:41.07 | Codayus | ? |
| 04:41.27 | Codayus | Hmmm |
| 04:41.29 | Codayus | I see. |
| 04:42.23 | Shadowd | He left? |
| 04:42.24 | Codayus | What a depressing individual. |
| 04:44.04 | Cairenn | sowwy |
| 04:50.52 | Wobin_ | Woohoo! |
| 04:51.05 | Wobin_ | I have photobucket images! |
| 04:53.46 | Wobin_ | now to see if I can do the anonymouser prepend to stuff |
| 05:11.24 | Cairenn | cladhair1: you awake and here? |
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| 05:26.29 | Kaelten | anyone have a second to try to help me figure out a annoying bug? |
| 05:26.37 | Cairenn | nevah! |
| 05:26.47 | Kaelten | nevah on you too! |
| 05:27.57 | Cairenn | gimmah stupid mod :p |
| 05:29.08 | Cairenn | fine then, don't! no help for you! come back 1 year! |
| 05:29.22 | Kaelten | huh? |
| 05:29.59 | Cairenn | the only sienfield episode ever worth watching :p |
| 05:30.04 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:30.05 | Tain | haha |
| 05:30.11 | Cairenn | soup nazi! |
| 05:30.33 | Kaelten | tain you got a min man |
| 05:30.38 | Kaelten | this bug is driving me bonkers |
| 05:30.41 | Tain | No mod for you! One year! |
| 05:31.00 | Kaelten | ... |
| 05:31.02 | Kaelten | arg |
| 05:31.10 | Tain | Oh yeah I'm good at bug squishing after a long night of heavy drinking. |
| 05:31.16 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:31.16 | Kaelten | lol |
| 05:31.23 | Kaelten | well this is the whats not working |
| 05:31.25 | Kaelten | return( hex .. "|H" .. self:GetHyperlink(code).. "|h[" ..data["name"].. "]|h|r") |
| 05:31.39 | Tain | What's not working about it? |
| 05:31.49 | Kaelten | the link it returns kicks me off line everytime |
| 05:31.54 | Kaelten | even items that are in my inventory |
| 05:32.00 | Cairenn | it's cause it's you ... Blizz hates you |
| 05:32.21 | Tain | if GetUser() == Kaelten then wow.exit() |
| 05:32.22 | futrtrubl | I'll go with Cairenn on this one |
| 05:32.28 | MentalPower | gnight guys |
| 05:32.36 | Cairenn | night MentalPower :) |
| 05:32.45 | futrtrubl | g'night! |
| 05:32.59 | Cairenn | awww futrtrubl, that's sweet, you want to go with me ... does that mean I get your class ring and everything?! |
| 05:33.36 | Tain | I don't know, item links alwyas kick my ass. |
| 05:33.36 | futrtrubl | ;'], no that's some silly North American tradition |
| 05:33.53 | Cairenn | fine then, be that way! |
| 05:33.55 | Tain | I got some silly North American traditions you can do. |
| 05:34.06 | Cairenn | ! |
| 05:34.12 | futrtrubl | ;'] |
| 05:34.33 | futrtrubl | going to the look out point always seemed fun though |
| 05:34.56 | Cairenn | poor Kaelten, here he is, trying to get serious help (and boy, does he need it, believe you me), and we're all being silly |
| 05:35.17 | Iriel | Well, kaelten, have you tried dumping the resulting string (Just replace | with || and then output it) |
| 05:35.28 | Tain | Gaah I'm in so much stupid pain right now, repetative stress nonsense with my arm. |
| 05:35.50 | Cairenn | Tain: then you obviously haven't drunk enough yet |
| 05:37.17 | Cairenn | not that I'm advocating using alcohol as a pain reliever or anything |
| 05:37.30 | Tain | I'm trying but it isn't helping. :( |
| 05:38.09 | Kaelten | checking iriel |
| 05:43.09 | Kaelten | thanks iriel, didn't know you could escape | like that |
| 05:43.13 | Kaelten | I see the error now. |
| 05:51.55 | Kaelten | well I'm off to bed, night guys, thanks again iriel |
| 05:57.43 | futrtrubl | and he just left us hanging, without an explanation of the problem...... now I can't sleep |
| 06:07.09 | Cairenn | sleep time, night folks |
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| 06:28.04 | AnduinLothar | FYI test realm should be availible in the next couple of days I believe.. |
| 06:29.12 | Iriel | That'd be nice |
| 06:30.09 | AnduinLothar | not confirmed officially, but they renamed the internal servers appropriately |
| 06:31.16 | Cairenn|sleep | the folks in this channel all know better than to speak out of turn, imo |
| 06:31.40 | AnduinLothar | and i have super powers on that server so if you need something for testing purposes let me know |
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| 06:32.25 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 06:35.28 | Iriel | Can you turn tem into a newt? |
| 06:35.38 | Wobin_ | omg |
| 06:35.40 | Wobin_ | He's a witch! |
| 06:35.51 | Cairenn|sleep | but will he get better? |
| 06:35.58 | Cairenn|sleep | hi Shouryuu |
| 06:36.31 | Iriel | yay, my work code works, so I can go to bed! |
| 06:36.45 | Cairenn|sleep | night Iriel, sweet dreams |
| 06:36.55 | Iriel | cya, have fun all. |
| 06:45.57 | Tem|Nap | A newt? |
| 06:46.16 | Cairenn|sleep | better than smelling of elderberries |
| 06:46.27 | Wobin_ | Or being a hamster |
| 06:48.54 | futrtrubl | with big pointy... |
| 06:49.28 | Cairenn|sleep | aaaagh! run away run away! |
| 06:50.01 | Shouryuu | lol |
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| 06:55.10 | Shouryuu | ='( |
| 06:55.23 | Shouryuu | i hate my internet connection... |
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| 06:58.33 | Tem | wtf is wrong with my neighbors? |
| 06:58.39 | Tem | They are playing bongo drums |
| 06:58.41 | Tem | at 1 AM |
| 06:59.16 | Tem | oh well... |
| 06:59.20 | Tem | night people |
| 06:59.21 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 06:59.23 | Shouryuu | night |
| 06:59.27 | Cairenn|sleep | night Tem, sweet dreams |
| 06:59.38 | Tem|Sleep | night Cairenn|sleep |
| 07:00.22 | Cairenn|sleep | added to your thread, Crispix |
| 07:00.27 | Cairenn|sleep | :p |
| 07:01.52 | Shouryuu | ohh crispix is here :p |
| 07:06.42 | Cairenn|sleep | script to reload ui .. /script ReloadUI(); ... correct? |
| 07:06.53 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.09 | Cairenn|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.28 | Shouryuu | seriously? |
| 07:07.39 | Cairenn|sleep | naw, making it up :p |
| 07:08.10 | Cairenn|sleep | they took /console out waaaaay back |
| 07:08.21 | Shouryuu | I'm sure I've been using it |
| 07:08.29 | Shouryuu | And I mean sure |
| 07:08.32 | Cairenn|sleep | *blink* |
| 07:08.43 | Cairenn|sleep | does it still bring down the console? |
| 07:08.47 | Shouryuu | nope |
| 07:08.56 | Shouryuu | but /console reloadui works |
| 07:09.02 | Cairenn|sleep | okay, that's what I was talking about, and I *know* they took that out |
| 07:09.07 | Cairenn|sleep | okay |
| 07:09.20 | Shouryuu | hummmm |
| 07:09.23 | Shouryuu | can you try? |
| 07:09.41 | Cairenn|sleep | back in CB, you could ~ and it would drop down the console for you |
| 07:10.13 | Shouryuu | yeah I heard abot that |
| 07:10.26 | Shouryuu | I think it's still in their "how to take good screenshots" faq |
| 07:10.34 | Shouryuu | they'd tell you to do ~ and take off the name plates |
| 07:10.39 | Shouryuu | via the console |
| 07:10.44 | Shouryuu | bu that never worked for me :p |
| 07:11.08 | Cairenn|sleep | hmm, well, both work |
| 07:11.18 | Shouryuu | ./script reloadui() works? |
| 07:11.24 | Cairenn|sleep | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.31 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 07:11.56 | Cairenn|sleep | yeah, I knew it did, that's the one I've been using, was just trying to verify exact without logging in :p |
| 07:12.57 | Cairenn|sleep | not that I have many occasions where I'm reloading my ui |
| 07:13.24 | Shouryuu | unless I'm working on and add-on, it shouldn't happen :p |
| 07:14.39 | Cairenn|sleep | well, given that I don't write mods ... |
| 07:14.55 | Cairenn|sleep | at least, not for WoW |
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| 07:34.13 | ForgottenLords | Im back |
| 07:34.24 | ForgottenLords | Im not leaving for a while |
| 07:34.41 | Cairenn|sleep | cool |
| 07:45.45 | dukeku | SODA POP! |
| 07:45.52 | dukeku | Oh boy am I thirsty! |
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| 07:59.24 | Shouryuu | my internet is making go cwazzy |
| 08:07.57 | Wobin_ | ... there's a /spoon emote |
| 08:08.47 | zeeg | relaly? |
| 08:08.54 | Corrodias | IN THE NAVY |
| 08:09.09 | zeeg | no there isnt |
| 08:09.09 | zeeg | :s |
| 08:09.21 | krka|work | yes, you can sail the seven seas |
| 08:09.59 | Shouryuu | in the navy! |
| 08:10.30 | Shouryuu | arghhhh my godam internet is going boink again |
| 08:10.41 | zeeg | my emotes page is somewhat broken (will be fixed later) but |
| 08:10.43 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/emotes/ |
| 08:10.44 | zeeg | :P |
| 08:10.45 | zeeg | no /spoon :( |
| 08:11.32 | id` | There is no /spoon :-) |
| 08:11.52 | Shouryuu | if I were to tell my wireless to go to hell, and go cable, and my internet connection was still jumpy, would that mean my *router* is the source of my problems? |
| 08:12.22 | id` | welll does it do the same on a different computer? |
| 08:12.27 | Shouryuu | arghhhh my roomate is listening to blink 182 |
| 08:12.29 | id` | have you got the latest drivers for your hardware? |
| 08:12.33 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 08:12.33 | id` | slap him |
| 08:12.35 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 08:12.41 | Shouryuu | it's a she =( |
| 08:12.43 | id` | dude! its blink 182! |
| 08:12.46 | id` | yea so? |
| 08:12.47 | id` | dude! its blink 182! |
| 08:12.48 | id` | yea so? |
| 08:12.48 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 08:12.49 | id` | dude! its blink 182! |
| 08:12.52 | id` | etc |
| 08:13.18 | id` | i'd get the CD out and put in a cd of Dimmu Borgir or Children of Bodom |
| 08:13.27 | Shouryuu | and it does the same on a different computer, but not at the same time, or the same frequency |
| 08:13.30 | id` | here's guitars, none'o'dat pussy shit |
| 08:13.50 | id` | :P |
| 08:13.58 | Corrodias | then it probably is the router. |
| 08:14.02 | Corrodias | it's easy to try another router |
| 08:14.03 | id` | ya |
| 08:14.24 | Shouryuu | and it could be my computer, because I have the same probably on another wireless conection, while every other computer works flawlessly on it |
| 08:14.37 | Corrodias | could be both. |
| 08:14.39 | zeeg | omg |
| 08:14.42 | zeeg | i love blink 182 |
| 08:14.48 | Shouryuu | ~lart zeeg |
| 08:14.48 | zeeg | you all suck |
| 08:14.50 | zeeg | burn in hel |
| 08:14.52 | zeeg | burn in hell |
| 08:14.53 | Wobin_ | EMOTE112_CMD1 = "/cuddle"; 919 EMOTE112_CMD1 = "/cuddle"; |
| 08:14.54 | Wobin_ | 919 EMOTE112_CMD2 = "/spoon"; 920 EMOTE112_CMD2 = "/spoon"; |
| 08:14.54 | Wobin_ | 920 EMOTE112_CMD4 = "/spoon"; |
| 08:14.54 | Wobin_ | 921 EMOTE113_CMD2 = "/duck"; 921 EMOTE113_CMD2 = "/duck"; |
| 08:14.54 | Wobin_ | 922 EMOTE113_CMD1 = "/duck"; 922 EMOTE113_CMD1 = "/duck"; |
| 08:14.54 | Wobin_ | 923 EMOTE114_CMD2 = "/insult"; |
| 08:14.55 | dukeku | wtf |
| 08:15.02 | zeeg | Wobin_, what ver? |
| 08:15.03 | dukeku | ..blink 182? |
| 08:15.05 | Wobin_ | sorry for the spam =) |
| 08:15.08 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 08:15.17 | Corrodias | Sheila & The B. Devotion - Spacer |
| 08:15.20 | Wobin_ | I dunno I was just looking at wdn.wowi |
| 08:15.25 | zeeg | hrm |
| 08:15.27 | zeeg | ill check again |
| 08:15.46 | Shouryuu | I don't want to go to school today |
| 08:16.02 | Shouryuu | I ahve exams all week, and I haven't studied at all =( |
| 08:16.15 | zeeg | ok well firefox just froze |
| 08:16.16 | zeeg | gimme a min |
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| 08:16.54 | Wobin_ | No rush zeeg |
| 08:17.09 | zeeg | there's no spoon.. |
| 08:17.10 | Wobin_ | I'm not all that concerned about it =) It just seemed a surprise emote to me =P |
| 08:17.24 | id` | http://chir.ag/stuff/sand/ |
| 08:17.28 | id` | get addicted like me |
| 08:17.30 | Wobin_ | I need to get a copy of Dog Soldiers |
| 08:17.43 | Wobin_ | Now -there- was a classy movie |
| 08:18.44 | Shouryuu | I hate France |
| 08:18.57 | Shouryuu | it's cold, rainning, snowing |
| 08:19.06 | Shouryuu | how could things get worst? |
| 08:20.01 | Shouryuu | can you parse a Frame? I mean can you parse what's written in the error frame? |
| 08:22.46 | zeeg | that's neat id` |
| 08:23.02 | Shouryuu | I can't even get it to load =( |
| 08:29.20 | id` | http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8361/untitled1ue1.png |
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| 08:30.11 | id` | http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8361/untitled1ue1.png |
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| 08:51.09 | namxo | hi |
| 08:51.16 | namxo | i need some help to find an addon ;p |
| 08:51.22 | namxo | http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot0220062230172nc.jpg |
| 08:51.27 | namxo | which is the addon for combo points ? |
| 08:52.20 | Corrodias | i can't even tell where they are |
| 08:53.10 | namxo | they're above the minimap |
| 08:53.14 | namxo | the "gold" circle |
| 08:53.27 | id` | Discord Unit Frames |
| 08:53.37 | namxo | are you sur ? |
| 08:53.39 | id` | yes |
| 08:53.45 | namxo | stupid things :( |
| 08:53.53 | namxo | i don't want a biggest addon only for that ;'( |
| 08:54.00 | id` | yep me too |
| 08:54.05 | namxo | i will make an addon so.. |
| 08:54.17 | namxo | do you know where i can find the texture file ? :D |
| 08:54.22 | id` | though i am very tempted to make my own unit frames with DUF or DFM |
| 08:54.26 | id` | lol no |
| 08:54.35 | id` | discordmods.com |
| 08:54.36 | id` | maybe there |
| 08:54.45 | namxo | MiniGroup2 is very very fine for unit frame |
| 08:55.03 | id` | dont like it that much |
| 08:55.18 | namxo | the 2 ? you've test the 2 ? |
| 08:55.21 | id` | http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/games/wow/shots/ |
| 08:55.23 | namxo | in abf style, is very nice |
| 08:55.23 | id` | yes, i use it |
| 08:55.55 | namxo | you don't use abf style for bar ;) |
| 08:56.03 | namxo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-interface-customization&T=318059&P=10 |
| 08:56.12 | namxo | could you ask Trogg here to send the file for combo points ? |
| 08:56.50 | id` | No |
| 08:56.52 | id` | i'm EU |
| 08:56.58 | namxo | oh zut :) |
| 08:57.02 | namxo | who are american here ? :D |
| 08:57.33 | Corrodias | i |
| 08:57.51 | Corrodias | but i don't understand what ou want |
| 08:57.53 | Corrodias | *you |
| 08:57.56 | namxo | go on the url |
| 08:58.10 | Corrodias | i see a thread. |
| 08:58.40 | namxo | et say "Trogg could you send me the .tga file of your combo points ? |
| 08:58.44 | id` | he wants the textures from the UI from Trogg that he made with DUF |
| 08:58.44 | namxo | or .blp |
| 08:58.53 | Corrodias | oh, i don't have that, sorry |
| 08:58.55 | namxo | only the textures of the combo points |
| 08:59.04 | namxo | i know, i want you ask them to Trogg |
| 08:59.09 | namxo | i can't post on us forum |
| 08:59.10 | namxo | :) |
| 08:59.15 | Corrodias | ah |
| 08:59.16 | id` | dont go there |
| 08:59.17 | id` | :P |
| 09:00.19 | Corrodias | login failure? |
| 09:00.23 | Corrodias | i'm still fucking paying the bill |
| 09:00.30 | namxo | oh |
| 09:00.36 | Corrodias | better not be no fucking login failure |
| 09:01.07 | Corrodias | ah, it takes account name rather than character name, which is the opposite of.. yes, i get it |
| 09:01.30 | namxo | :] |
| 09:01.33 | id` | ... |
| 09:01.38 | id` | th opposite of what |
| 09:01.39 | id` | :P |
| 09:01.45 | Corrodias | posted |
| 09:01.49 | Corrodias | of what i expected |
| 09:03.35 | Corrodias | i'm going to bed. 'ni |
| 09:04.13 | namxo | thanks for the post |
| 09:04.13 | namxo | good night |
| 09:05.24 | id` | nn Corrodias |
| 09:08.53 | Legorol | Good night US people, Good morning EU people! |
| 09:09.01 | namxo | ;D |
| 09:09.30 | id` | :) |
| 09:10.12 | Wob | Good evening ZH people =P |
| 09:10.26 | id` | ZH? |
| 09:10.33 | Wob | China |
| 09:10.40 | id` | ZHina? |
| 09:10.41 | id` | :P |
| 09:10.44 | Wob | Zhongguo =) |
| 09:10.54 | id` | ic :X |
| 09:11.00 | id` | Wob: you are chinese? :O |
| 09:11.02 | Wob | They actually use the chinese name for it, I find it quite refreshing =P |
| 09:11.15 | Wob | Well... I was born in Australia, but yes, of chinese descent |
| 09:11.23 | Wob | I'm over here to learn Mandarin |
| 09:11.23 | id` | oic |
| 09:11.28 | id` | cool |
| 09:15.39 | id` | cool :P |
| 09:16.01 | namxo | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ |
| 09:16.09 | namxo | i want see the new talent for priest |
| 09:16.10 | namxo | :') |
| 09:16.38 | Wob | yeah me too =) |
| 09:16.59 | namxo | Eyonix said the priest is up |
| 09:17.05 | namxo | but it's a little and strange up |
| 09:17.24 | namxo | so lots of people will not like that when they will see the talent simulator |
| 09:17.31 | namxo | but they will like when they will test on PTR |
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| 10:17.47 | Crispix | Too quiet in here. |
| 10:18.54 | Crispix | Wobin, would you know any Audio Combat caller stand alone mods? |
| 10:19.17 | Wobin_ | ones that ding on combat events? |
| 10:19.32 | Crispix | aye |
| 10:19.41 | Wobin_ | What sort of combat events are you after? |
| 10:19.41 | Crispix | like scream 'I NEED HEALTH' when I'm low in health |
| 10:19.46 | Wobin_ | ah... |
| 10:20.04 | Wobin_ | not off hand, the one's I've heard of ding for stuff like rogue points etc |
| 10:27.31 | namxo | how i can know on which ChatFrameNUMBER a party message is receive ? |
| 10:27.39 | Crispix | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=2094 .... kinda cool |
| 10:27.44 | Wobin_ | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=819 |
| 10:27.48 | Wobin_ | Crisp |
| 10:27.56 | Crispix | aye? |
| 10:28.01 | Crispix | (Call me Crispy) |
| 10:28.19 | namxo | Voile Mortel |
| 10:28.22 | namxo | or Low Life warning |
| 10:28.24 | namxo | is better |
| 10:28.24 | namxo | :) |
| 10:28.26 | Crispix | is it audio too? |
| 10:28.31 | Crispix | does it scream out I need health? |
| 10:28.34 | namxo | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=3355 |
| 10:28.52 | Wobin_ | it has audio apparantly =) |
| 10:29.13 | namxo | http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=3385 |
| 10:29.28 | Crispix | looking for something party members can hear |
| 10:29.39 | Wobin_ | ah |
| 10:29.42 | Crispix | during like dungeons |
| 10:30.02 | namxo | how i can found a Heartbeat sound ? |
| 10:30.56 | Wobin_ | then this http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=542 |
| 10:31.12 | Wobin_ | do a search on google for heartbeat.wav or something? |
| 10:31.22 | namxo | :D |
| 10:31.56 | Wobin_ | or http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=722 perhaps, Crisipix |
| 10:32.38 | Crispix | hrmmm |
| 10:32.45 | Crispix | does it say it, and do audio? |
| 10:33.01 | Crispix | via vocal emotes and/or chat messages) |
| 10:33.03 | Crispix | O_O |
| 10:33.04 | Crispix | might work! |
| 10:33.28 | Crispix | time to try it! |
| 10:37.05 | namxo | hum hard to find a nice heartbeat sound |
| 10:37.09 | namxo | high and clear |
| 10:37.09 | namxo | :) |
| 10:37.19 | namxo | i find realistic heartbeat |
| 10:37.27 | namxo | a more funny heartbeat will be more cool i think |
| 10:38.29 | Wobin_ | grab a stethescope and a tape recorder and go for a jog around the block |
| 10:38.45 | namxo | :p |
| 10:41.56 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Legorol^ (n=Legorol@tcmpc43.phy.cam.ac.uk) |
| 10:45.45 | id` | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18182#18182 |
| 10:52.16 | Legorol^ | well spoken.. |
| 10:52.27 | id` | ta ^^ |
| 10:52.28 | Legorol^ | now go fix your AddOn so it works with both Timex and Chronos! :p |
| 10:52.42 | id` | I won't |
| 10:52.46 | Legorol^ | hehe |
| 10:53.00 | Legorol^ | what kind of customer service is that ;-) |
| 10:53.12 | Legorol^ | you are getting PAID $$$$$ = 0 for all your hard work |
| 10:53.17 | id` | I have no customers. |
| 10:53.24 | Legorol^ | people expect, nay, demand! that you immediately obey them |
| 10:53.30 | Crispix | YAYYYYYYYYYY |
| 10:53.33 | Crispix | That mod worked! |
| 10:53.34 | id` | I have only people like me interested in what i made, to use ingame |
| 10:53.45 | id` | if you are not satisfied with it |
| 10:53.48 | id` | wll its public domain |
| 10:53.54 | id` | make it bake blueberry wafflez |
| 10:54.05 | Legorol^ | you're under an illusion... you are a slave of the WoW gamers... your mission, even if you don't expect it, is to cater to their every whim |
| 10:54.14 | Legorol^ | (note: in case you haven't realised, all my comments are jokes) |
| 10:54.29 | id` | (I mock you in parentheses - tee hee) |
| 10:54.45 | id` | ^^ |
| 10:54.57 | Legorol^ | Crispix: good for you... which mod? |
| 10:55.39 | Crispix | Legorol^ - http://www.curse-gaming.com/mod.php?addid=722 |
| 10:55.57 | Crispix | been posting in the forums I need a shout out mod... and someone helped me find one that WORKS tonight :D |
| 10:56.43 | id` | could make one.. |
| 10:56.53 | Crispix | nope |
| 10:56.55 | Crispix | I got one :D |
| 10:56.57 | Crispix | works DAMN well |
| 10:57.55 | id` | oki |
| 11:01.20 | Legorol^ | zomg, we are getting loadstring! wooot |
| 11:03.13 | Crispix | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-general&ThreadID=7209865 |
| 11:03.54 | namxo | it's useless loadstring |
| 11:03.54 | namxo | ;p |
| 11:16.44 | Crispix | hey id... |
| 11:16.58 | id` | hey Crispix |
| 11:16.59 | Crispix | got another suggestion for your automelee switch thing |
| 11:17.07 | id` | shoot |
| 11:17.13 | id` | *opens todo.txt* |
| 11:17.23 | Crispix | make it configurable so that if it switches you... you automatically start attacking |
| 11:18.43 | id` | eh? |
| 11:18.48 | Crispix | if you want a great source for music... check www.pandora.com ..listens to your 'favorite bands' you tell it, and then streams music it thinks you'd like, and if you don't like it you mark it that way and it'll never play the song again |
| 11:19.01 | id` | last.fm does that :P |
| 11:19.16 | Crispix | ok.. say you attack me when i'm not watching.. it'll switch me to melee, and automatically start attacking |
| 11:19.25 | id` | yes |
| 11:19.34 | Crispix | yes.. but does it automatically stream REAL music... to you ? |
| 11:19.39 | id` | it does |
| 11:19.49 | id` | listening to my fav industrial/noise music atm |
| 11:19.54 | Crispix | hrm |
| 11:20.03 | Crispix | try pandora ..... just for the heck of it :P |
| 11:20.09 | id` | :P |
| 11:20.22 | id` | so you start attacking, uh, good init? |
| 11:24.32 | id` | Crispix: ?:P |
| 11:25.44 | Crispix | huh? |
| 11:25.47 | Crispix | ..... |
| 11:25.48 | Crispix | oh |
| 11:25.49 | Crispix | Um |
| 11:25.52 | Crispix | just like.. |
| 11:25.55 | Crispix | If you attack me... |
| 11:26.00 | Crispix | it gets my melee out.... |
| 11:26.09 | Crispix | and will start attacking via the melee weapons |
| 11:26.12 | Crispix | automatically |
| 11:26.14 | Crispix | follow? |
| 11:26.20 | Wobin_ | unless you're sitting? |
| 11:27.00 | id` | it already does that.. |
| 11:27.08 | id` | that what it _does_ |
| 11:27.19 | Crispix | ... doesn't on mine |
| 11:27.25 | Crispix | just pulls out my melee weapons |
| 11:27.28 | id` | it puts meelee on if the target is attackable and you get aggro or you do damage to the target |
| 11:27.37 | Crispix | it actually needs me click attack |
| 11:27.43 | id` | :S |
| 11:27.50 | id` | well thats why its beta :D |
| 11:27.50 | Crispix | yeah .. :/ |
| 11:27.54 | Crispix | heheheh |
| 11:28.01 | Crispix | well.. I'm glad I'm your first beta tester :D |
| 11:28.04 | id` | ;) |
| 11:28.15 | Crispix | other than that.. works pretty damn well. :) |
| 11:28.46 | Crispix | maybe you could add an optional 'taunt' thing to it.. like something where it shouts into 'say' or something 'OHHH.. so you think you can bring the pain.... SO BRING IT!!' |
| 11:28.51 | Crispix | or something.. /laugh |
| 11:29.11 | Crispix | maybe a user configurable taunt... |
| 11:30.29 | id` | There's an addon for that |
| 11:30.59 | Crispix | well.. you can add it to yours.. can you not ? :P |
| 11:31.13 | id` | yeah, but that's not what my addon is supposed to do |
| 11:31.17 | id` | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=673 |
| 11:31.22 | id` | AceAdLibber |
| 11:31.55 | id` | shiggidy schwa |
| 11:31.56 | Crispix | o_O |
| 11:31.56 | id` | :D |
| 11:32.05 | Crispix | I think that croc just got a critical on me |
| 11:32.10 | Crispix | ...... |
| 11:32.24 | Crispix | took me from 30% health down to 15% in one bite.. *MUNCH* |
| 11:42.33 | id` | ;P |
| 11:42.39 | id` | shiggidy schwa |
| 11:42.51 | Wobin_ | hrm, I've been looking at the Timex and Chronos code |
| 11:42.59 | Wobin_ | There shouldn't be the problem that guy is having... |
| 11:43.30 | Crispix | yay |
| 11:43.40 | Crispix | my next level I get hunters mark rank 2....... |
| 11:43.47 | Wobin_ | hehe gogo hunter =) |
| 11:43.53 | Wobin_ | What pet have you? |
| 11:44.06 | Crispix | Rare uber white polar bear named Milk :) |
| 11:45.03 | id` | I'd get one of those dragon fly thing creatures |
| 11:45.08 | id` | that live in the southern barrens |
| 11:45.13 | id` | horde or not |
| 11:45.14 | id` | :P |
| 11:45.36 | Wobin_ | wind serpents? |
| 11:45.39 | id` | w/e |
| 11:45.41 | Wobin_ | They're pretty flimsy |
| 11:45.58 | Crispix | psh. |
| 11:46.02 | Crispix | I love my polar bear |
| 11:46.02 | Wobin_ | I <3 bears (even though my main pet is a cat) mostly for their garbage disposal abilities |
| 11:46.16 | Crispix | unless theres another uber white like creature out there... near 22.... |
| 11:46.36 | Crispix | I shall name them Sugar |
| 11:48.15 | Wobin_ | There's a decidedly... breakfasty theme to this =P |
| 11:48.51 | Wobin_ | Unless you just have a fetish for refined goods |
| 11:50.20 | Crispix | My girlfriend told me I should catch a turtle and call him Cornflakes |
| 11:50.27 | Crispix | At that minute.. I knew she was my soulmate.. |
| 11:50.28 | Wobin_ | You need three pets. Snap, Crackle and Pop |
| 11:50.31 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 11:50.36 | Crispix | lmao |
| 11:50.44 | Crispix | pull em out in sequence during raids |
| 11:50.59 | Crispix | mean while wondering over my head *hrm.. which do we need.* |
| 11:51.34 | Crispix | .... would any of you support a 'Track Horde' ability suggestion? |
| 11:51.47 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 11:51.50 | Crispix | like.. track horde/alliance? |
| 11:51.57 | Wobin_ | If only track undead really worked for the Undead |
| 11:52.11 | Wobin_ | (well, actually if only the Undead were really undead) |
| 11:52.22 | Wobin_ | then shackle undead and pally stuff would be more useful in raids =P |
| 11:53.11 | Crispix | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-suggestions&ThreadID=711219 |
| 11:53.16 | Crispix | support support support! :D |
| 11:53.20 | Crispix | I shall give you sugar! |
| 11:55.48 | krka|work | isn't track humanoids enough? |
| 11:56.19 | ForgottenLords | is there any way to find out when the last download of our UI mods took place? |
| 11:56.24 | Wobin_ | That's what I've always used |
| 11:57.09 | Wobin_ | Meh, noone's rating my addons =P |
| 11:57.09 | Crispix | Track Humanoid really doesn't ... track ALL of the horde though.. does it? |
| 11:57.21 | Wobin_ | sure it does |
| 11:57.23 | id` | Crispix: you are a hunter.. what has a living hunter to do with undead |
| 11:57.43 | id` | Crispix: it doesnt match in blizzards storyline |
| 11:58.54 | Crispix | ... I like to smash orcs/undead/trolls/whatever. |
| 11:59.04 | Crispix | makes hunting them easier. |
| 12:01.44 | id` | well that's not fair is it |
| 12:01.45 | id` | :P |
| 12:02.05 | Crispix | if both sides hnters had it.. sure |
| 12:02.28 | id` | i mean more comparing classes |
| 12:06.25 | Crispix | see.. what I want is a Track Horde/Alliance that doesn't include the humanoid from towns and stuff. |
| 12:06.59 | id` | no fun |
| 12:07.10 | krka|work | well... track humanoid misses hunters with aspect of the beast and druids in animal form |
| 12:07.20 | krka|work | and rogues who are stealthed |
| 12:07.21 | id` | thats good |
| 12:07.23 | id` | makes the game fun |
| 12:07.27 | krka|work | but there is track beast and track hidden for that |
| 12:07.44 | Crispix | Hrm does anyone know how to make my signature say something else that you can click on ? |
| 12:07.54 | Crispix | or does html code not work? |
| 12:07.58 | id` | eh, a link? |
| 12:08.01 | Wobin_ | Try it |
| 12:08.01 | id` | yes it does |
| 12:08.03 | id` | :p |
| 12:08.16 | Crispix | so.. I wanna change 'http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?862049' into 'My character' |
| 12:08.19 | Crispix | so how do I do that? |
| 12:08.21 | ForgottenLords | track hidden is broken |
| 12:08.35 | Crispix | or Click to see my character. |
| 12:08.36 | krka|work | it is? |
| 12:08.54 | ForgottenLords | hidden folks only appear once they have already done their 'swish' and have backstabbed you |
| 12:09.05 | ForgottenLords | appear on your minimap that is |
| 12:10.11 | krka|work | seems to increase detection range though |
| 12:11.07 | ForgottenLords | does it? I never felt like it did that... |
| 12:11.12 | ForgottenLords | I'll have to use it more :) |
| 12:11.50 | krka|work | just what i read... might be broken i guess |
| 12:17.26 | Wobin_ | er. [url=http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?862049]My Character[/url] |
| 12:17.29 | ForgottenLords | By broken, I mean that I found it useless |
| 12:17.30 | Wobin_ | I think |
| 12:17.36 | ForgottenLords | laterz |
| 12:17.49 | Wobin_ | Easier to sit on a freezing trap and numb your balls off |
| 12:19.06 | Legorol^ | krka, are you actually playing nowadays? |
| 12:23.58 | id` | krka|work: HAH YOU LOST! |
| 12:24.10 | id` | (@ icehockey) :P |
| 12:24.11 | krka|work | lost what? |
| 12:24.21 | krka|work | that was yesterday, you're slow |
| 12:24.29 | krka|work | Legorol, yes |
| 12:24.31 | id` | hey, i read news papers.. |
| 12:25.19 | Crispix | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-suggestions&ThreadID=711253 did I ramble? |
| 12:26.54 | Wobin_ | hrm |
| 12:26.58 | Wobin_ | nope |
| 12:27.03 | Wobin_ | Maybe I should try EVE again |
| 12:27.15 | Crispix | EVE just had wayyy too much going in the first few minutes.. |
| 12:27.35 | Wobin_ | yeah, but once you got a general grip on things, it wasn't so bad |
| 12:27.43 | Crispix | my brain, with an iq of 144 had difficulty understanding it, and I felt like the game was trying to make me feel .. small |
| 12:27.49 | Wobin_ | Well... |
| 12:27.51 | Wobin_ | It was =) |
| 12:28.03 | Wobin_ | Cause, y'know, you're like tiny in the universe =) |
| 12:28.03 | Crispix | I suppose.. but.. damn.. make the intro tutorial easier!!! |
| 12:28.22 | Wobin_ | I fucked that up cause I skipped something important in the tute =) Had to start again =P |
| 12:28.26 | Crispix | even Project Entropia (gawd waht a bad game).. had a better tutorial |
| 12:28.43 | Wobin_ | I really disliked Guild Wars though |
| 12:28.48 | Crispix | Then there matrix online... |
| 12:28.49 | Wobin_ | (after playing WoW) |
| 12:29.02 | Crispix | you aim for someones head and you hit their crotch.. fricking AWFUL hit detection |
| 12:29.03 | Wobin_ | It just seemed so... airy fairy after WoW |
| 12:29.17 | Crispix | yeah.. I know.. WoW is beautiful |
| 12:29.23 | Crispix | yet.. masculine in an odd way |
| 12:29.32 | Wobin_ | I mean, sure, WoW has it's issues... |
| 12:29.38 | Crispix | but they fix em! |
| 12:29.42 | Wobin_ | but there isn't anything on the market that beats it so far, imo |
| 12:29.50 | Crispix | City of Heroes keeps patching and making itself worse.. MUCH worse |
| 12:30.48 | Crispix | I feel like I'm being pompus in that reply.... |
| 12:31.09 | Crispix | 'I've tried every mmo known to man and you've only played THIS many..' BWHAHAHAA *hangs head low.* |
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| 12:32.04 | krka|work | wow... masculine? |
| 12:32.07 | Wobin_ | Maybe take out from "What other..." to "...I played" |
| 12:32.12 | krka|work | i totally don't see that |
| 12:32.13 | Wobin_ | and put in "I've played" |
| 12:32.20 | krka|work | the graphics is kinda cartoony |
| 12:32.36 | Wobin_ | yeah, very cartoony |
| 12:32.45 | Wobin_ | But then again, it's hard to have realistic models |
| 12:32.46 | Crispix | they're still a lot more masculine than the Clay Aiken gayness that is Guild Wars... |
| 12:32.51 | Wobin_ | that move realistically etc |
| 12:33.06 | Crispix | (No offense to any gays or clay aiken fans in here) |
| 12:33.25 | Wobin_ | or gay Clay Aiken fans |
| 12:33.32 | Crispix | indeed |
| 12:33.40 | Crispix | or as they like to be called.. |
| 12:33.42 | Crispix | 'Claymates' |
| 12:33.48 | Crispix | *Shudders remembering his ex...* |
| 12:34.02 | Wobin_ | ... |
| 12:34.06 | Wobin_ | Scary |
| 12:34.10 | Crispix | someone comfort me or stab with me a spork so I can get this bitch out of my head and memorys.. please |
| 12:40.47 | krka|work | motion capture can produce pretty good movement |
| 12:41.16 | Crispix | .. that was random? |
| 12:41.53 | Wobin_ | not particularly |
| 12:41.59 | Wobin_ | It was in response to my comment |
| 12:42.48 | Crispix | ooh |
| 12:46.18 | Crispix | wow... |
| 12:46.37 | Crispix | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-suggestions&T=692194&P=1 read this whole thread.. (speed read it..) take a look at all the bumping.. and my final response to it |
| 12:49.29 | Legorol^ | Crispix, which one is your response? |
| 12:49.39 | Legorol^ | by the way, i am surprised the OP's company hasn't gone bankrupt yet.. |
| 12:49.50 | Legorol^ | with the clueless people they employ :D |
| 12:50.02 | Crispix | you'll see me.... |
| 12:50.19 | Crispix | i'm crispix.. just look for a level 21 hunter with orangish hair :) |
| 12:50.33 | Crispix | page 2 btw |
| 12:54.58 | id` | still on 1 |
| 13:00.47 | [MoonWolf] | here go the servers |
| 13:20.27 | Crispix | wooo: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-suggestions&ThreadID=711330 |
| 13:20.37 | Crispix | best idea i've had in a while |
| 13:26.00 | id` | http://wowace.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=18184#18184 |
| 13:26.00 | id` | so was his comment directed at me or the user? |
| 13:27.19 | Crispix | er.. did http://ui.worldofwar.net go down for anyone else? |
| 13:27.36 | id` | nope |
| 13:29.47 | id` | its quite slow tho |
| 13:29.56 | Crispix | http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1854 LOL |
| 13:29.59 | Crispix | thats fantastic! |
| 13:34.49 | Crispix | I think I might install it |
| 13:37.15 | Crispix | ok.. wow.. |
| 13:37.20 | Crispix | forums.. going slow |
| 13:38.20 | Crispix | I think http://ui.worldofwar.net/ went down |
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| 13:47.46 | Legorol^ | Don't you love it how everyone and their mom is suddenly server, database, streaming, bandwith, bunny and wolf experts all at once when it comes to WoW realms? |
| 13:49.07 | Crispix | If I could understand what you just said, I'd probably agree or disagree with you according to the standpoint of which you'd like me to take on the subject you just said Legorol... |
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| 13:52.49 | Legorol^ | lol |
| 13:53.03 | ckknight | hey all |
| 13:53.07 | Legorol^ | ok, i am talking about how the suggestion forums are crowded about "suggestions" on how Blizzard should run their servers |
| 13:53.18 | Crispix | ah |
| 13:53.20 | Crispix | yeah |
| 13:53.21 | Legorol^ | and what technical steps they should take to fix the lag, latency, crashes, disconnects, bunnies and wolves |
| 13:53.21 | ckknight | hrm |
| 13:54.05 | Crispix | I made a thread in Off Topic that thread needs to be locked and I got called a n00b because I didn't suggest it in the suggestions forum.. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-off-topic&t=1332470&p=1&tmp=1#post1332470 see? |
| 13:54.12 | Legorol^ | suddenly everyone is an expert on Blizzard's infrastructure, and have magical telepathic abilities with which they can scan said infrastructure from their homes, and point out its weaknesses, never having been anywhere near the data centers |
| 13:56.29 | id` | Legorol^: ignore them |
| 13:56.34 | id` | Legorol^: like blizzard |
| 13:57.45 | krka|work | i am gonna take a guess too: my guess is that the bottleneck is in database accesses. pretty much every request would need a db lookup and possibly locking tables |
| 13:58.03 | krka|work | not at all the same sort of problems that a media distributer faces |
| 14:01.41 | Tain | The problems are obviously because the WoW servers are running MSDOS 5.0 and DESQView and thought they could regulate performance better by using a token ring network internally. |
| 14:02.09 | Crispix | If anyone could, please keep this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-suggestions&t=711330&p=1&tmp=1#post711330 alive.. I really hope blizzard sees it.. I've gotta go lay dow nfor a bit before I goto work.... |
| 14:02.16 | Crispix | I'm about to pass out as is |
| 14:02.33 | Beladona | anyone that even begins to understand how they have things set up wouldn't begin to presume to tell them how to fix it |
| 14:03.12 | Beladona | because any of us with any real application and server experience knows it is never as easy as it "looks" |
| 14:03.36 | id` | :P |
| 14:03.52 | Beladona | which is why the people that own the company I work for think I can work miracles |
| 14:04.00 | Beladona | and I wish I could |
| 14:04.02 | Beladona | hehe |
| 14:04.09 | namxo | no new priest talent ? |
| 14:04.14 | Tain | Thankfully most people never bother with such silly things like, "logic" and "reason" and "reality" Beladona. :) |
| 14:04.24 | Beladona | true |
| 14:06.23 | Tain | Oh and Crispix if someone actaully wanted it it would be pretty difficult to keep your thread alive without the login servers being up. |
| 14:06.51 | namxo | what's the minimal .xml to have an OnUpdate event ? |
| 14:07.22 | ckknight | <Frame><Scripts><OnUpdate>DoSomething()</OnUpdate></Scripts></Frame> |
| 14:07.36 | namxo | strange |
| 14:07.37 | namxo | <Frame> |
| 14:07.37 | namxo | <Scripts> |
| 14:07.37 | namxo | <OnUpdate>CleanUI:OnUpdate</OnUpdate> |
| 14:07.37 | namxo | </Scripts> |
| 14:07.37 | namxo | </Frame> |
| 14:07.39 | namxo | don't work |
| 14:07.40 | namxo | :( |
| 14:07.46 | namxo | my god |
| 14:07.48 | namxo | forget the () |
| 14:07.49 | namxo | i'm stupid |
| 14:07.50 | namxo | :) |
| 14:07.58 | ckknight | no disagreements here |
| 14:08.04 | Tain | OnUpdate causes cancer in laboratory animals. |
| 14:08.31 | ckknight | ? |
| 14:08.46 | namxo | lol |
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| 14:23.38 | JoshBorke | hello |
| 14:23.55 | namxo | lu |
| 14:23.58 | ckknight | hey |
| 14:24.42 | JoshBorke | i have a quick question :-) i'm creating a static-popup to accept an itemlink, unfortunately, i can't shift-click an item into the editbox like I can the chatbox-editbox |
| 14:24.45 | JoshBorke | if that makes any sense :-) |
| 14:26.09 | JoshBorke | what i'm asking is 1) is it possible, 2) how? |
| 14:28.04 | namxo | detect the shift click |
| 14:28.10 | namxo | copy the link item in your editbox |
| 14:29.54 | JoshBorke | you mean like, hook into the click-function for the bags, the bank, the chatframes? or is there a single function I can hook? |
| 14:30.00 | JoshBorke | btw, i'm still a newbie at LUA coding |
| 14:30.10 | JoshBorke | so, bear with my stupid/uninformed questions |
| 14:33.21 | namxo | i dunno, look the blizzard FrameXML |
| 14:33.21 | namxo | :) |
| 14:41.38 | JoshBorke | mmk :-) do you have the link that provides the differences between versions |
| 14:42.00 | namxo | which versions ? |
| 14:42.19 | JoshBorke | ah, yes, of the patches. the one that compares the changes between blizzard patches |
| 14:42.30 | namxo | no |
| 14:42.45 | Tain | http://wdn.wowinterface.com |
| 14:43.14 | JoshBorke | danke |
| 14:51.31 | Legorol^ | JoshBorke: unfortunately yes, to detect shift+left click, you have to hook into every single place in the UI code that adds a link to the chat box |
| 14:51.40 | Legorol^ | there is no single central function to hook into |
| 14:52.13 | Legorol^ | for example, for items in your bag, shift+left-click handling happens in the ContainerFrameItemButton_OnClick() function |
| 14:52.25 | Legorol^ | it has a section of code like this: |
| 14:52.28 | Legorol^ | if ( button == "LeftButton" ) then |
| 14:52.28 | Legorol^ | if ( IsControlKeyDown() and not ignoreModifiers ) then |
| 14:52.28 | Legorol^ | DressUpItemLink(GetContainerItemLink(this:GetParent():GetID(), this:GetID())); |
| 14:52.28 | Legorol^ | elseif ( IsShiftKeyDown() and not ignoreModifiers ) then |
| 14:52.28 | Legorol^ | if ( ChatFrameEditBox:IsVisible() ) then |
| 14:52.29 | Legorol^ | ChatFrameEditBox:Insert(GetContainerItemLink(this:GetParent():GetID(), this:GetID())); |
| 14:52.30 | Legorol^ | else |
| 14:52.59 | Legorol^ | there are many places in the Blizzard UI code where there is a code similar to this, the one i just pasted only handles clicks on items in bags |
| 14:53.12 | Legorol^ | As a workaround, what you could do however is this: |
| 14:53.37 | Legorol^ | when your static popup is showing, also show the chat edit box as well |
| 14:53.51 | Legorol^ | then hook into the Insert function of the edit box |
| 14:54.18 | Legorol^ | with that, if the user shift+clicks on an item, you can intercept the resulting call to the edit box's Insert function |
| 14:54.41 | Legorol^ | it's not the best solution, but it's the one that would give you the least work |
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| 15:02.37 | JoshBorke | mmmm, thank you for the idea :-) |
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| 15:07.15 | JoshBorke | i think that while the chatframeedit box isn't the cleanest solution, i think it is perhaps a more futureproof solution because anytime blizzard adds another window, i won't have to update my mod |
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| 15:24.28 | Legorol^ | whoaaaah, someone just totally enlightened me |
| 15:24.44 | Legorol^ | i will never ever accept any arguments about Paladin's not having a ranged weapon for pulling |
| 15:24.47 | Legorol^ | the answer lies in: |
| 15:24.50 | Legorol^ | ... drum rolls ... |
| 15:24.56 | Legorol^ | EZ-Throw dynamites! |
| 15:25.48 | Legorol^ | i'm going to have to start touting this |
| 15:26.25 | JoshBorke | lol. i like the linken's boomerang myself |
| 15:29.35 | id` | Legorol^: palas cant use guns/bows? |
| 15:30.12 | JoshBorke | no they can't |
| 15:30.31 | JoshBorke | though we like to carry around Egan's Blaster so something is in that slot |
| 15:31.23 | Elkano | well, look out for 1.10's librams |
| 15:31.41 | JoshBorke | new librams? |
| 15:31.51 | Elkano | btw: anybody here kapable of Korean language? |
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| 15:34.12 | Elkano | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=7025805&P=1 <- post 8 |
| 15:35.31 | JoshBorke | oooo, nifty |
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| 15:40.58 | JoshBorke | ok, new question. currently i'm using a 'function mymod.foobar()' for most of my functions. I would like to change that to a 'function mymod:foobar()' but i don't understand the steps I need to go through in order to do that. (i like the : more than . for readability purposes) |
| 15:41.26 | JoshBorke | if i just replace the . with a :, i get an error when i run the xml file, function mymod:OnLoad could not be found |
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| 15:48.44 | Legorol^ | JoshBorke: whilst I understand that ":" is more readable than ".", the two mean different things in Lua |
| 15:48.57 | Legorol^ | unless you really need the ":", I suggest you stick with "." |
| 15:50.08 | Legorol^ | ":" is usually used when attempting to write object oriented code in Lua. It's meaning is defined in the Lua manual |
| 15:50.32 | JoshBorke | ok, but for me edification, can you explain them to me? i read the post made by rowne on wowinterface, and the subsequent thread, but i couldn't quite understand it |
| 15:50.53 | JoshBorke | i understand the '.' means it is an item in the mymod table |
| 15:51.04 | JoshBorke | a key as it were, i guess |
| 15:51.07 | Legorol^ | yes |
| 15:51.12 | Legorol^ | ok, i can explain |
| 15:51.54 | Legorol^ | first of all, it's very important for you to know that ":" is just syntactic sugar, meaning it is an element of the Lua language just made to make something else easier to write |
| 15:51.59 | Legorol^ | it doesn't fundamentally add to the language |
| 15:52.16 | Legorol^ | it is a shorthand notation, if you like |
| 15:52.26 | Legorol^ | so the next thing is for me to try and explain what it is a shorthand for |
| 15:53.28 | Legorol^ | technically, the function definition: |
| 15:53.28 | Legorol^ | function table:name() ... end; |
| 15:53.28 | Legorol^ | is equivalent to |
| 15:53.29 | Legorol^ | function table.name(self) ... end |
| 15:53.59 | Legorol^ | Please note that "self" has no special meaning here, it is just an ordinary argument like any function argument would be |
| 15:54.35 | Legorol^ | it simply is the case that if you use ":" in the function definition, it automatically adds "self" as the first argument of the function |
| 15:54.45 | Legorol^ | it is used inside the function as any other argument would be |
| 15:55.01 | JoshBorke | ah, i see |
| 15:55.02 | Legorol^ | Ok, so that's the meaning of ":" when you are defining a function. Next follows its meaning when you *call* a function |
| 15:55.24 | Legorol^ | the function call: |
| 15:55.24 | Legorol^ | table:name(); |
| 15:55.24 | Legorol^ | is equivalent to |
| 15:55.24 | Legorol^ | table.name(table); |
| 15:55.49 | Legorol^ | in other words, when calling the function, the table that the function is in is automatically added as the first argument in the call |
| 15:56.20 | JoshBorke | so when i write MyMod:OnLoad(), my function should be 'function MyMod:OnLoad(self)' |
| 15:56.31 | Legorol^ | In practice, what this means is that if you have a function definition like this: |
| 15:56.31 | Legorol^ | function mytable:name(a, b, c) .. can use self, a, b and c... end |
| 15:56.36 | JoshBorke | er |
| 15:56.43 | Legorol^ | and you call the function like this: |
| 15:56.50 | Legorol^ | mytable:name(d, e, f); |
| 15:57.09 | Legorol^ | then inside the function, self will be equal to mytable, a = d, b = e, c = f. |
| 15:57.26 | JoshBorke | oh, ok |
| 15:57.35 | Legorol^ | no, if you are calling it as MyMod:OnLoad(), you have to define it as "function MyMod:OnLoad()" |
| 15:57.39 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 15:57.49 | JoshBorke | what i said was wrong :D |
| 15:58.00 | JoshBorke | i realized it after i said it, but didn't want to interrupt |
| 15:58.06 | Legorol^ | ok |
| 15:58.24 | Legorol^ | now if you like, i can also explain *why* this shorthand notation exists and when it's useful to use it |
| 15:58.29 | JoshBorke | ok, so really, there is no reason to use the ':' over the '.' |
| 15:58.33 | JoshBorke | and that would be excellent |
| 15:58.34 | Legorol^ | exactly |
| 15:58.37 | JoshBorke | <-- giddy like a school boy |
| 15:59.04 | Legorol^ | i don't know how much experience you have with high level languages and Object Oriented programming, i don't want to be patronising |
| 15:59.11 | Legorol^ | if i say something that's obvious, do stop me |
| 15:59.31 | Legorol^ | the idea behind OO programming is usually that you have an object, which has properties and methods |
| 15:59.39 | JoshBorke | yea, i've taken a semester on java |
| 15:59.41 | Legorol^ | ok |
| 15:59.45 | Legorol^ | in that case i will skip the intro |
| 15:59.46 | JoshBorke | so i understand the basics behind inheritance etc |
| 16:00.10 | Legorol^ | ok, so Lua doesn't have an inherent concept of OO, but it has elements that allow you to write like if it had |
| 16:00.25 | Legorol^ | a Lua table can be considered an instance of a class, |
| 16:00.31 | Legorol^ | (i am going to use Java analogies) |
| 16:00.43 | Legorol^ | and the functions in that table can be considered as the methods of the class |
| 16:01.20 | Legorol^ | let's say you want to have an object with a property called "a", and you want a method that increments this |
| 16:01.33 | Legorol^ | in Lua, you would write it like this: |
| 16:02.08 | Legorol^ | mytable = { a = 1; }; function mytable:inc() self.a = self.a+1; end |
| 16:02.45 | Legorol^ | this syntax means you have an object called mytable, which is analogous to an instance of a class in Java |
| 16:03.09 | Legorol^ | it has the property a, and the method inc() |
| 16:03.22 | Legorol^ | i can now call mytable:inc() and it will increment the value "a" in mytable |
| 16:03.34 | Legorol^ | now you may ask, why didn't i just write the inc() function like this: |
| 16:03.44 | Legorol^ | function mytable.inc() mytable.a = mytable.a + 1; end |
| 16:04.09 | Legorol^ | the answer is that the way i have written it, the function can be copied to other tables too and it will work fine |
| 16:04.26 | Legorol^ | i will throw up an example on pastebin, hang on |
| 16:04.41 | JoshBorke | that makes sense to me |
| 16:06.25 | Legorol^ | http://wow.pastebin.com/565139 |
| 16:06.34 | Legorol^ | see if that example makes sense or if anything's confusing |
| 16:06.49 | Legorol^ | there are more advanced features in Lua that allow you to imitate the notion of Classes |
| 16:07.08 | Legorol^ | so that you can do things like instantiation (like the "new" operator in Java) and inheritance |
| 16:07.39 | Legorol^ | where most people get confused at this point though is to confuse tables in Lua with classes |
| 16:07.53 | Legorol^ | i will reiterate for good measure: tables are not classes, tables are like instances |
| 16:08.05 | Legorol^ | if you have any questions, feel free |
| 16:08.44 | JoshBorke | yea, that all makes sense |
| 16:08.51 | JoshBorke | thank you for taking the time to type all that out |
| 16:09.13 | Legorol^ | no prob, i am bored right now ;-) |
| 16:09.15 | Legorol^ | here is another paste: |
| 16:09.17 | Legorol^ | http://wow.pastebin.com/565141 |
| 16:09.25 | Legorol^ | it's the exact same example as before, but without the ":" |
| 16:09.35 | Legorol^ | this illustrates that ":" is just a syntactic shorthand |
| 16:10.36 | JoshBorke | yea, that really cleared things up |
| 16:10.56 | Legorol^ | in the 2nd example, where i am not using ":", i could've called the variable "self" anything else i like |
| 16:11.08 | Legorol^ | it's just simply the case that if you use ":", it gets called "self" |
| 16:11.11 | Legorol^ | nothing special about it |
| 16:11.34 | Beladona | it is useful, but only in certain circumstances |
| 16:11.40 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 16:11.41 | Beladona | and some people use it when it isn't necessary |
| 16:11.49 | Legorol^ | if you can still bear with me and willing, i want to explain why you will see code that explicitly has the variable "self" in the declaration |
| 16:11.55 | JoshBorke | it definitely would not be useful for me |
| 16:12.01 | JoshBorke | yea, sure |
| 16:12.24 | Legorol^ | it is neccessary to explicitly have self when you are defining a function in a table structure, in place |
| 16:12.31 | Legorol^ | let me throw up a variation of the previous example |
| 16:12.49 | ckknight | s = { Alpha = function(self, thing) DoSomething(thing) end } |
| 16:13.00 | ckknight | s:Alpha('boom') |
| 16:13.43 | Kolth | Can anyone think of a good way to figure out if a server is PST? |
| 16:13.59 | Legorol^ | http://wow.pastebin.com/565162 |
| 16:14.17 | Legorol^ | JoshBorke: in the example i just linked, "self" has to be explicitly written on the declaration side |
| 16:14.27 | Legorol^ | because i am not using the "." syntax in the first place, so i can't replace it with ":" |
| 16:14.34 | Legorol^ | on the calling side, i can still use ":" |
| 16:14.54 | Legorol^ | Kolth: none that I know of, short of doing a traceroute to the server |
| 16:15.33 | Kolth | Thanks. |
| 16:15.37 | krka|work | lua is really more like a prototype based oo language than java |
| 16:15.49 | Kolth | I'm looking for a new server and I can't easily find good possibilities fast. |
| 16:15.52 | Legorol^ | Lua is like any language you want it to be, Lua is great :D |
| 16:16.04 | Legorol^ | and also, Lua is like no other language ;-) |
| 16:16.11 | Legorol^ | it's my favourite language (atm) |
| 16:16.22 | krka|work | actionscript and javascript have similarities to lua imo |
| 16:16.26 | krka|work | lua is my favorite of them though |
| 16:16.37 | Legorol^ | if you say so, didn't use much of either |
| 16:16.44 | Elkano | could so try a ping/tracert on eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com ? |
| 16:16.55 | Legorol^ | you can try, but what for? |
| 16:17.03 | Tain | Kolth I'd suggest looking at servers with the lowest populations, it isn't going to matter as much how close you are to that server if you have to sit in a queue every time you log in. |
| 16:17.08 | Legorol^ | that is just the logon server, nothing to do with the realms, Elkano |
| 16:17.29 | Elkano | I know, but I can't even reach thisone atm :( |
| 16:17.29 | Kolth | Tain: Do you play WoW? :P Time zone indicates when people will raid. That's what I'm looking for. |
| 16:17.41 | Legorol^ | Elkano: you will not get a ping response from eu.logon.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 16:17.43 | Fulgrin | Yea I find I ping better on low pop(as it should.) then on local servers. |
| 16:17.57 | Tain | Well gosh golly gee, we've never heard of actually playing woW 'round these parts. I'm just a simple country boy. |
| 16:18.10 | Kolth | That's apparent. |
| 16:18.13 | Legorol^ | then get outta here, Tain! |
| 16:18.17 | Elkano | I won't? oh... |
| 16:18.28 | Legorol^ | no blizzard servers respond to pings |
| 16:18.33 | Tain | I've never been in a guild that paid attention to the time zone. Raiding time was set, you joined or you didn't. |
| 16:18.38 | Legorol^ | as it should be, no sane service provider shoudl |
| 16:18.41 | Legorol^ | otherwise you can DOS them |
| 16:18.54 | Legorol^ | use a traceroute instead, it will terminate a hop or two before the actual realms |
| 16:19.01 | Elkano | ah, working again :) |
| 16:19.02 | Legorol^ | the EU logon servers are in Paris |
| 16:19.06 | Legorol^ | as are half the realms |
| 16:19.25 | Legorol^ | the other half are in Frankfurt |
| 16:19.28 | JoshBorke | Legorol: i see, that makes sense to me |
| 16:19.45 | Legorol^ | but even if you are on a Frankfurt realm, you go via eu.logno.worldofwarcraft.com first, when you type your username/pass |
| 16:20.17 | Tain | If the rest of the server doesn't know what time zone the server is in (they don't, it's mostly guesswork) it doesn't matter all that much. |
| 16:21.16 | Legorol^ | it was funny, i once posted a complete breakdown of the EU English realms, listing their location (which data center), opening date, opening purpose (fresh/migration) and IP addresses |
| 16:21.27 | Legorol^ | my post got deleted like no tomorrow |
| 16:21.34 | Legorol^ | never seen a post get deleted that fast :D |
| 16:21.50 | krka|work | heh |
| 16:22.17 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 16:22.21 | Beladona | you dind't see the joke posted about the two blizz employees walking into a bar then |
| 16:22.27 | Beladona | oh... |
| 16:22.32 | Legorol^ | and the funniest part was: except for the IP addresses which i got from ping, all the other information was obtained from publically available knowledge, i.e. past Blizzard official posts and news archives |
| 16:22.49 | Legorol^ | in EU, there are 4 data centers |
| 16:22.57 | Legorol^ | Blizz is very careful to not say which realm is in which one |
| 16:23.09 | Legorol^ | but in practice, by going over all official Blizzard posts, you can figure out which one is in which |
| 16:23.29 | Legorol^ | i then checked it (just as a doublecheck) against IP addresses, but it matched perfectly |
| 16:23.38 | Legorol^ | so i didn't even need to know their IPs to know which one is in which data center |
| 16:24.10 | Legorol^ | if you collect the Blizzard posts, it's like those puzzles: |
| 16:24.20 | Legorol^ | the guy with the cat is in the house next to the one with the blue roof etc. |
| 16:24.51 | krka|work | i hate those |
| 16:24.53 | krka|work | <-- stupid |
| 16:25.12 | Legorol^ | for example, they'd make a post: "we are performing maintenance on realms X, Y and Z". As a precaution, realms "C, D and E" will be taken down as well as they are also affected by the maintenance |
| 16:25.24 | Legorol^ | so then you know that C, D, E, X, Y and Z are in same data center |
| 16:25.25 | Legorol^ | etc. |
| 16:25.38 | Legorol^ | i love these kinds of puzzles |
| 16:25.43 | Tain | Unless it's just a bluff to throw you off. |
| 16:25.49 | Legorol^ | so at one point i collected all the official posts and figured the thing out |
| 16:25.54 | krka|work | except that lego verified with ip checks |
| 16:25.59 | Legorol^ | yep |
| 16:26.03 | Legorol^ | and also, there was redundant info |
| 16:26.18 | JoshBorke | heh, i loved those puzzles too |
| 16:26.36 | JoshBorke | have you done that for the US servers? |
| 16:26.38 | Legorol^ | nope |
| 16:26.47 | Legorol^ | wouldn't bother though.. |
| 16:26.47 | krka|work | no no, you said it wrong: "and also, there was redundantly redundant info which was redundant" |
| 16:26.49 | Legorol^ | jut go with IPs |
| 16:26.52 | Tain | Saying it was a bluff to throw you off was .. er never mind. My humor is being lost in the ether before it reaches anyone today. |
| 16:26.55 | Legorol^ | lol @ krka |
| 16:27.05 | Legorol^ | Tain: yes we realized it was a joke |
| 16:27.09 | Legorol^ | but we always take you seriously ;-) |
| 16:27.19 | krka|work | i have take anything seriously |
| 16:27.19 | Legorol^ | even though you don't play WoW |
| 16:27.44 | krka|work | whoa.... i just read what i wrote |
| 16:27.46 | krka|work | i must be tired |
| 16:27.59 | krka|work | i wrote "have" instead of "never" |
| 16:28.24 | krka|work | time to go home |
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| 17:42.13 | krka | whoa... cool, no one wrote anything after i left work :) |
| 17:44.35 | id` | :P |
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| 18:11.32 | JoshBorke | lol |
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| 18:16.51 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 18:16.56 | Gryphen | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 18:17.50 | Shouryuu | heeeyyy |
| 18:17.54 | Shouryuu | where's my huggle! |
| 18:18.26 | Shouryuu | bastard... |
| 18:18.43 | Shouryuu | and I thought we had something special going on... |
| 18:18.54 | Gryphen | try it again |
| 18:19.56 | ckknight | lies, Cairenn! you aren't afk! |
| 18:19.58 | Gryphen | hrm |
| 18:20.47 | Shouryuu | well cairenn speaks in her sleep |
| 18:20.53 | Shouryuu | so I guess she can speak while afk |
| 18:20.58 | Cairenn|afk | I decided to be nice and wait for you to get them uploaded ... now I really am gone, I'm late for my appointment |
| 18:21.05 | ckknight | aw |
| 18:21.06 | ckknight | cya |
| 18:21.08 | ckknight | and thanks |
| 18:23.10 | Shouryuu | that's a bit late |
| 18:24.23 | Shouryuu | lol |
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| 18:40.14 | Konstant | lol kinda dead in here |
| 18:42.06 | Gryphen | 5 minutes of no talk is dead :o |
| 18:43.46 | Konstant | lol |
| 18:48.59 | Shouryuu | well here's how you can kill time! |
| 18:49.09 | Shouryuu | http://chir.ag/stuff/sand/ |
| 18:50.25 | Konstant | lol |
| 18:51.25 | Shouryuu | it |
| 18:51.26 | Shouryuu | 's |
| 18:51.28 | Shouryuu | really cool :p |
| 18:52.42 | Konstant | man |
| 18:52.48 | Konstant | I had to turn that off |
| 18:52.53 | Konstant | I'll lose 3 hours |
| 18:53.02 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 18:53.33 | Konstant | I need to figure out this new Visual Studio's 2005 compiler |
| 18:54.27 | krka | O_o why do you need to worry about how a compiler works? |
| 18:59.17 | Konstant | Just upgraded from 2003, so I need to figure out if anything has changed before I start recompiling |
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| 19:10.43 | Tain | If I remember right, and I might not, 2003 links against .NET 1.x by default, and I know 2005 links against .net 2.x by default. |
| 19:11.57 | Konstant | yes that is true Tain |
| 19:12.21 | Konstant | But I wrote some nice extended provider components |
| 19:12.29 | krka | isn't that the linker though, not the compiler |
| 19:13.47 | Konstant | The 2003 language/compiler had some strange errors and odd ways of handling arrays and such, I'm hoping I wont have the same issues |
| 19:14.39 | id` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4223635641067304203&q=dragonforce |
| 19:14.39 | Konstant | I had to regress some of my latest code which of course blurred the Business logic and Data access logic of the component |
| 19:14.41 | id` | kick |
| 19:14.41 | id` | ass |
| 19:14.49 | id` | Dragonforce > many |
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| 19:16.56 | id` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4754272039537090546&q=dragonforce |
| 19:16.57 | id` | :p |
| 19:22.57 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Shouryuu (n=Shouryuu@26.239.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 19:23.03 | Shouryuu | how can you listen to that id' |
| 19:23.51 | Shouryuu | my ears just went boom in about a split second |
| 19:25.05 | [MoonWolf] | Shouryuu, because it owns! |
| 19:25.09 | Shouryuu | the guy *knows* how to play the guitar |
| 19:25.13 | Shouryuu | I have to agree'but ouch |
| 19:25.56 | Shouryuu | I can talk, I know |
| 19:26.00 | Shouryuu | I like psychedelic trance |
| 19:26.07 | Shouryuu | but that still is painfull |
| 19:26.20 | Konstant | Trance is always nice |
| 19:26.31 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.34 | Konstant | I had a new system installed into my car and I can finally appeciate it properly |
| 19:26.38 | Shouryuu | it is just a series of loud noise |
| 19:26.42 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 19:26.48 | id` | i didnt sy it was pretty |
| 19:26.48 | Shouryuu | the sound system does a lot |
| 19:26.51 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 19:26.55 | id` | its just S I C K |
| 19:26.57 | id` | :p |
| 19:27.11 | Tain | Gah Konstant you just reminded me that I've bee putting off getting my system installed in my car, had everything removed from my last one when I sold it, but never put it all in the new one yet. |
| 19:27.19 | id` | and i happen to like sick |
| 19:27.24 | Konstant | My poor 6 channel bose system in my house wasnt cutting it |
| 19:27.38 | Tain | And flash locks up my firefox for some reason and it makes me want to cry. |
| 19:27.47 | id` | deinstall it |
| 19:27.48 | Konstant | Tain: Installed a full JL Audio with 10inch W6 w/ 900 watt amp |
| 19:28.11 | Shouryuu | no idea what that means |
| 19:28.24 | Konstant | It kicks ass and is a show quality system |
| 19:28.40 | Tain | Ah nice. I'm so pissed, I have a two JL sub carpet box and I punctured one of the subs. |
| 19:28.40 | Shouryuu | thhhatt's better |
| 19:29.02 | Konstant | Basically my little car sounds great and doesnt rattle to fuck yet |
| 19:29.21 | Tain | Now I have to decide if it's worth buying 2 new subs, since really they're a few years old anyway, or a new box for the one sub and move it over. |
| 19:29.27 | Konstant | I think I'll own Nissan for life |
| 19:29.48 | id` | i think ill never drive a car |
| 19:29.54 | id` | :p |
| 19:29.57 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 19:30.09 | Konstant | A single w6 is good enough for anything, unless you want to be obnoxiously loud |
| 19:30.27 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 19:30.34 | Konstant | Also depends on your car, mine is a two seater coupe |
| 19:30.48 | Shouryuu | I WANT THE PRIEST TALENTS ALREADY! |
| 19:31.08 | Tain | I'm running two Esclipse amps and an Eclipse deck, and Boston Acoustics Z5s |
| 19:31.44 | Tain | I used to have the two subs in the back of a Grand Cherokee. :) |
| 19:32.00 | Tain | So I know it's overkill for my car now. |
| 19:32.35 | [MoonWolf] | So this is how it feels if i compare my pc with someone else and a third person has no idea wtf we are talking about. |
| 19:32.52 | MentalPower | indeed |
| 19:32.54 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 19:32.59 | Tain | hee :) |
| 19:33.08 | Tain | Like L.L. said, I couldn't survive without my radio. |
| 19:33.49 | Shouryuu | w00t, you won't be having any of the "John dies' "you heal john for 5031" messages" in 1.10 |
| 19:34.36 | Tain | Stupid John. |
| 19:35.01 | Shouryuu | ass hole! |
| 19:35.05 | Shouryuu | Burn him! |
| 19:35.12 | Tain | Why'd you have to go die on me, John! |
| 19:35.41 | Tain | The amount of foce that I have to hit my monitor with to snap it into visibility is getting scary. |
| 19:35.45 | Tain | It's not long for this world. |
| 19:36.03 | Bela|AFK | I have a request, and I fully expect some people to go "huh?" when I ask it... but here goes |
| 19:36.10 | [MoonWolf] | shoot |
| 19:36.14 | Beladona | crap one sec |
| 19:36.36 | Konstant | Tain: I have a 350Z with even less room then you |
| 19:36.55 | Konstant | But i have a Boston Amp also |
| 19:38.24 | Konstant | Its interesting how the side windows on the Z are installed. They give a lot more flex then in a normal car |
| 19:38.54 | Beladona | ok sorry about that |
| 19:38.54 | Konstant | Could be bad though in the rain if you bump it to hard. Haven't dared test it |
| 19:38.56 | Beladona | someone needed me |
| 19:39.19 | Beladona | request: I need people who are good at brainstorming ideas. I am trying to revamp the code view on wdn, but I am running out of ideas. |
| 19:40.01 | Beladona | things to consider: |
| 19:40.02 | Beladona | a) side by side view works well for most people, but I am open to other ideas that combine them into a single pane somehow |
| 19:40.24 | JoshBorke | i think side-by-side is best, easiest to compare |
| 19:40.33 | Beladona | yeah |
| 19:41.08 | Beladona | also, people are a bit torn on whether they want word wrap or not. I am inclined to keep word wrap though |
| 19:41.59 | Beladona | just because no word wrap is hard to get into something that is viewable without tons os scrolling |
| 19:41.59 | Beladona | of* |
| 19:41.59 | Konstant | wdn? |
| 19:43.12 | Beladona | 0.o |
| 19:43.15 | JoshBorke | who, i just pulled up the globals file on the current release, lots of scrolling |
| 19:43.30 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/ |
| 19:43.39 | Beladona | yeah, see what I mean |
| 19:43.54 | JoshBorke | could you make it an option? |
| 19:44.08 | Beladona | I also plan to get the code view into the main site layout, instead of a second page |
| 19:44.35 | Beladona | I could make an option, but imho it would be more work than it is worth |
| 19:45.03 | Beladona | especially since I plan to have a separate section of the site just for viewing all files in the current release |
| 19:45.08 | Beladona | and that one will not be word wrapped |
| 19:45.14 | JoshBorke | mmk |
| 19:45.31 | JoshBorke | the initial page could use a little more explanation i think. the first time i pulled it up i was very confused as to what was going on |
| 19:45.49 | Beladona | how so? |
| 19:45.56 | JoshBorke | and could there be an option to compare 2 radically different versions? |
| 19:46.17 | Beladona | eventually, but that requires dynamically creating compares |
| 19:46.22 | Beladona | and right now it is manual |
| 19:46.35 | Beladona | I do all the comapres each patch and then upload the results |
| 19:47.11 | Shouryuu | why does everyone like TLA? |
| 19:47.27 | JoshBorke | well, at the time i was a complete novice (still am) and what confused me is live server releases have test changes, and test server releases having live changes. i was under the impression that changes on test are only on test |
| 19:47.29 | id` | tla sucks nuts |
| 19:47.31 | id` | what's tla |
| 19:47.52 | Shouryuu | three letter acronyms |
| 19:47.58 | Konstant | anyone know what MS Visual InterDev 6.0 is for lol? It just showed up randomly in my Visual Studio's Order |
| 19:48.17 | Shouryuu | 90% of acronyms are made of 3 letters, and those that aren't feel unaturall |
| 19:48.40 | JoshBorke | imho, imho works well |
| 19:48.54 | Beladona | at the bottom is an explanation Josh |
| 19:48.58 | Beladona | I will move it up top though |
| 19:49.03 | Beladona | so people see it first |
| 19:50.19 | JoshBorke | see, to this day i never noticed that :-D |
| 19:50.32 | Konstant | Hell I dont even know what WDN does lol |
| 19:50.45 | JoshBorke | lol, it provides you a change-log between releases |
| 19:51.00 | JoshBorke | so you can quickly look up to see if anything in your mod was broken |
| 19:51.12 | JoshBorke | well, that's what i WOULD use it for |
| 19:52.20 | Konstant | Ah |
| 19:52.48 | Konstant | Well Blizzard prob is on a mission to break my mod |
| 19:53.02 | Beladona | hehe |
| 19:53.03 | Konstant | or break it along with decursive |
| 19:53.23 | Beladona | it mainly shows ANY change between releases, but only in interface files |
| 19:53.29 | AnduinLothar | not quite as functional as a good old gui'd opendiff of the two files, but a good refrence if you don't have both builds extracted or are on a pc or aren't on your home compy or don't like commandline.. |
| 19:53.30 | Beladona | not necessarily mod breaking ones |
| 19:53.55 | Beladona | eventually I would like to have diffs of the executable too |
| 19:54.03 | Beladona | or namely the globa api |
| 19:54.11 | Beladona | but that is a bit harder |
| 19:54.15 | [MoonWolf] | Beladona, I am quite keen on this view https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/changeset/795 , https://opensvn.csie.org/traccgi/Ace/trac.cgi/changeset/764 |
| 19:54.18 | JoshBorke | i think the diff between say 1.9 and 1.7 would be awesome though |
| 19:54.53 | JoshBorke | because it would make it easier for older mods to be updated or brought current |
| 19:54.56 | Beladona | [MoonWolf] that works for people like me or you, but I feel as though most people wouldn't understand taht output |
| 19:55.16 | [MoonWolf] | kk, only trying to show you what i like. |
| 19:55.35 | JoshBorke | ah, good ole diff view. i like it too, but i think side-by-side is better for quick-viewing |
| 19:56.19 | AnduinLothar | ya diff view always hurts my head. i much prefer side by side |
| 19:56.45 | AnduinLothar | tho diff view loads twice as fast |
| 19:57.02 | AnduinLothar | and isn't that bad depending on the colors or outline scheme |
| 19:57.53 | Shouryuu | well WDN looks fine to me =( |
| 19:58.26 | Beladona | side by side view is harder to code |
| 19:58.37 | Beladona | but looks better for newbie users |
| 19:58.38 | AnduinLothar | I find side by side a lot easier for large complicated changes |
| 19:58.43 | AnduinLothar | to read* |
| 19:59.08 | AnduinLothar | but for small changes the inline works |
| 19:59.26 | Konstant | anyone else have a boss that makes him update his personal webpages? |
| 19:59.37 | AnduinLothar | lol |
| 20:00.08 | AnduinLothar | I attempted to make the Cosmos Team update their wiki author pages.. didn't wor too well |
| 20:00.19 | Beladona | heh |
| 20:00.59 | AnduinLothar | maybe if I could withhold pay... |
| 20:01.11 | AnduinLothar | not really anything u can do to the poor volenteers |
| 20:01.18 | AnduinLothar | need positive motivation.. |
| 20:01.34 | AnduinLothar | I should offer cash rewards |
| 20:01.50 | Konstant | lol |
| 20:02.38 | Shadowd | You could just make stuff up on their author pages |
| 20:02.49 | Shouryuu | bela - Side by side is definatly the best for newbies. That's one of the cleanest site I've seen |
| 20:03.17 | Shouryuu | info just pops up,intuitively |
| 20:03.52 | Beladona | JoshBorke -- http://wdn.wowinterface.com -- is that better? |
| 20:08.38 | id` | Beladona: it is, but it reads like the font of the small black letters in the middle left of the header picture have been cut off on the bottom. I had to get my head close to the screen to tell they weren't. (meybe it's because of the slant, dunno) |
| 20:09.08 | JoshBorke | i like it |
| 20:09.22 | id` | And i'd say swap the live/test colors :P but that's personal preference i think |
| 20:09.48 | Beladona | I was thinking green and red |
| 20:09.52 | Shouryuu | come to think about it same here :P |
| 20:09.55 | Beladona | instead of orange and purple |
| 20:09.56 | Shouryuu | yeah green/red |
| 20:10.18 | Tain | I'd actually suggest green and orange, maybe. Have to see it side by side, but red sometimes is a little much. |
| 20:10.21 | Shouryuu | well actualy green/orange |
| 20:10.22 | JoshBorke | not to play devil's advocate, but what about yellow? |
| 20:10.24 | Shouryuu | I like that orange |
| 20:10.24 | Beladona | I can get the same shade, just different colors |
| 20:10.27 | AnduinLothar | isn't green/red used for the changes? |
| 20:10.37 | id` | yeh, how about grey/blue |
| 20:10.44 | Beladona | lemme throw some screenshots of them with different colors and you can vote |
| 20:10.49 | id` | ^^ |
| 20:10.55 | Shouryuu | eek grey... We wored on colour screens for a reason! |
| 20:11.02 | Shouryuu | *worked |
| 20:11.14 | Tain | Someday we'll find it, the rainbow connection. |
| 20:11.15 | JoshBorke | so we can have more shades of grey of course! |
| 20:11.21 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 20:11.28 | Tain | I like a whiter shade of pale. |
| 20:11.56 | Shouryuu | a plaer shade of pale maybe/ |
| 20:12.08 | Shouryuu | and what can be whiter than pale... |
| 20:12.17 | Tain | Ah kids today. |
| 20:12.32 | JoshBorke | perhaps something paler than pale can be whiter than pale? |
| 20:13.16 | Shouryuu | "Ah kids today" What did I do? |
| 20:13.26 | Tain | Ipso facto, qed, quid quo pro. |
| 20:13.36 | Tain | You don't know your roots! |
| 20:13.41 | id` | Tain: yes the one in the middle |
| 20:13.46 | Tain | Procal Harem "A Whiter Shade of Pale" |
| 20:13.54 | Tain | s/Procal/Procol/ |
| 20:14.07 | Shouryuu | Procol Harem... |
| 20:14.09 | Shouryuu | is? |
| 20:15.12 | Konstant | ? |
| 20:15.26 | id` | Hi Tem! |
| 20:15.31 | Konstant | I hate dreamweaver noob kids |
| 20:15.39 | Tem | hey |
| 20:15.44 | id` | tee hee Konstant |
| 20:15.46 | Shouryuu | it's Harum btw |
| 20:15.51 | Beladona | why do you say dreamweaver noob kids? |
| 20:15.57 | id` | Beladona: ^^ |
| 20:16.10 | Beladona | I use dreamweaver, and I am far from a noob |
| 20:16.14 | Konstant | This moron has at least 25 to 50 open and closed <font></font> tags with nothing between them |
| 20:16.32 | Konstant | full of random filler font information |
| 20:16.38 | Beladona | that has nothing to do with dreamweaver |
| 20:16.47 | Beladona | in fact dreamweaver cleans those out if you use it right |
| 20:16.58 | Konstant | excatly if you know how to use it lol |
| 20:17.01 | Konstant | this idiot doesnt |
| 20:17.01 | id` | It is true that when learning XHTML and CSS, one should grab notepad |
| 20:17.06 | Beladona | which is true for any program |
| 20:17.09 | Beladona | including notepad |
| 20:17.32 | id` | Beladona: dreamweaver has too many ''oo what does this one do' buttons |
| 20:17.34 | id` | for new people |
| 20:17.36 | Tain | Damnit! I got too busy correcting one typo that I missed the other. |
| 20:17.38 | Beladona | but yeah I agree. My first website was notepad created =P |
| 20:17.46 | id` | ^^ |
| 20:18.07 | Konstant | <div id="text" style="position:absolute; left:220px; top:128px; width:574px; height:532px; z-index:10; visibility: visible;"> |
| 20:18.07 | Konstant | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.15 | Konstant | multiply that by 10 |
| 20:18.25 | Tain | I used to agree, but I don't anymore. At least not with notepad, specifically. People should start out but learn to use more development orented editor. |
| 20:18.40 | Beladona | if you really want to rag on a web development suite though, rag on frontpage |
| 20:18.41 | Tain | SCiTE, UltraEdit, etc. One of those types. |
| 20:18.45 | Beladona | I mean my god |
| 20:18.53 | Tem | wewt 36th on my server this last week |
| 20:18.58 | JoshBorke | i love using vim |
| 20:19.04 | Codayus | emacs! And yeah, a bit of context highlighting and indenting goes long way, even for noobs. |
| 20:19.16 | Codayus | maybe even especially for noobs... :-) |
| 20:19.22 | Tain | I'm not cruel enough to tell someone to use either vim or emacs starting out. |
| 20:19.26 | Konstant | I hate frontpage more |
| 20:19.43 | Codayus | well, ideally they'll already know one or the other. |
| 20:19.47 | Konstant | I'm ragging on the guy who says "I'm an engineer and I can micky mouse my way through dreamweaver" |
| 20:19.54 | id` | JoshBorke: good, vim ftw tbh ;) |
| 20:20.16 | Tain | And by cruel I don't mean that they can't learn either editor, I mean it's cruel for one person to have so much power over another to make a decision for them that will shape the rest of their lives. |
| 20:20.24 | JoshBorke | i just need to get my scripts working in it again |
| 20:20.39 | JoshBorke | collapsing function blocks etc |
| 20:20.42 | Beladona | I use dreamweaver because I am proficient with it |
| 20:20.45 | id` | JoshBorke: http://digigen.nl/~Industrial/linux/vim/ |
| 20:20.48 | Beladona | thats pretty much it |
| 20:20.52 | Tain | No matter which path you set someone down, the path of vi, or the path of emacs, you have doomed them to never return. |
| 20:20.56 | id` | JoshBorke: :h 'folding |
| 20:20.58 | Codayus | Tain: untrue. it'ss only cruel if you tell them to use vim. |
| 20:21.00 | Codayus | :-) |
| 20:21.12 | Konstant | View this source and tell me your eyes dont bleed: http://www.conejodemocrats.com/events.htm |
| 20:21.28 | id` | its htm, sot thats bad |
| 20:21.34 | id` | html |
| 20:21.34 | id` | :p |
| 20:21.41 | Tain | hah! |
| 20:21.46 | id` | who ever invented 'hyper text meta' |
| 20:21.49 | JoshBorke | Codayus: no, no, telling them not to use vim is cruel and unusual punishment |
| 20:21.59 | Tain | You want eyebleedy do like there rest of us do an hit up http://www.thedailywtf.com/ every day |
| 20:22.02 | Shadowd | It could be worst Konstant |
| 20:22.33 | id` | hehe thedailywtf |
| 20:22.34 | id` | fun |
| 20:22.54 | Tain | yay for: string docOwnerUsername = "null"; |
| 20:22.57 | Codayus | if only it WAS daily |
| 20:23.04 | Codayus | the domain lies. |
| 20:23.07 | Codayus | :-( |
| 20:23.26 | Tain | It's fairly close to daily, Codayus |
| 20:23.33 | Tain | Well, I guess not weekends as much. |
| 20:24.32 | Tain | I do know that I miss out on a lot since I don't known the nuances of SQL as much as other languages. |
| 20:25.24 | id` | if you are going into web developement taky my advice, learn SQL. It's going to help if you get to know things like Inner and outer joins |
| 20:25.58 | Codayus | yeah, they're sometimes anoyingly sql centric. |
| 20:26.01 | id` | you can go and work at a company in an unknown language, all scripting languages for webservers are almost alike.. its not a big deal to re-learn in another syntax |
| 20:26.08 | id` | but SQl is gunna be quite the same |
| 20:26.35 | Konstant | I'm quoting an error message in Dreamweaver: "Tags are to deeply nested, so Dreamweaver is giving up." |
| 20:26.36 | Tain | You need to know SQL for virtually any client-server development. It's just that I know enough SQL to be functional, but don't have to use it enough to understand the implications of some of the more complex queries. |
| 20:26.38 | id` | and being SQL guru can pay :P |
| 20:26.49 | id` | (not that i am) |
| 20:27.26 | Konstant | heh i'm running a few servers with SQL, bang your head against the wall in an VPN environment |
| 20:27.43 | id` | :P |
| 20:28.11 | id` | i mean thats one thing that microsoft did good. its really stable |
| 20:28.24 | krka | learning relation algebra is a good idea too |
| 20:28.42 | id` | but ... i have to make SELECT FROM WHERE NOT IN (SELECT FROM WHERE) queries wich aren't fun |
| 20:28.55 | Beladona | learning math in general is nice. You would be surprised how many techs I have had that can't math their way out of kindergarten |
| 20:28.56 | id` | to get paginated content, for example |
| 20:29.06 | Beladona | needless to say, they didn't last |
| 20:29.09 | Tain | 2 + 2 = 5 |
| 20:29.13 | Tain | For very large values of 2 |
| 20:29.18 | id` | lol |
| 20:29.38 | id` | while im working (internship) i usually have a wikipedia page open |
| 20:29.49 | id` | today i learnt about lambda functions and closures |
| 20:29.52 | id` | :P |
| 20:30.14 | id` | (was already using them but didnt name them differently..) |
| 20:30.17 | id` | :O |
| 20:30.19 | Konstant | 2 + 2 = 5 Is where a whacky liberal social experiement on childhood self esteem went wrong |
| 20:30.28 | id` | hahahah Konstant |
| 20:30.40 | Elkano | 2 + 2 = 5 is 100% correct, if the syntactic symbol 2 equals 2 and the syntactic symblo 5 equals 4 ;) |
| 20:30.52 | Beladona | ok, green/red looks gay as hell on wdn |
| 20:30.58 | Beladona | got Christmas? |
| 20:31.01 | Konstant | my highschool in Washingston State was harder then any college class I took in California |
| 20:31.11 | Codayus | don't forget operater overloading. |
| 20:31.21 | id` | Codayus: wow took the words out of my mouth |
| 20:31.42 | Konstant | I dont think your average highschool student in california knows what a synatactic symbol is |
| 20:31.53 | id` | a what? |
| 20:32.27 | Konstant | grr this website uses frames |
| 20:32.28 | id` | :p |
| 20:32.36 | Konstant | i might as well rewrite the entire thing |
| 20:32.37 | JoshBorke | id`: exactly |
| 20:33.40 | id` | this so fits with wow |
| 20:33.41 | id` | ;) |
| 20:36.34 | Konstant | anyways I gotta nice to meet you all |
| 20:37.01 | id` | Konstant: byebye, stop by more, idle , etc |
| 20:40.53 | Beladona | ok guys, tell me what you think |
| 20:40.55 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/images/set1.jpg |
| 20:41.10 | id` | like the color |
| 20:41.12 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/images/set2.jpg |
| 20:41.41 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com/images/set3.jpg |
| 20:41.42 | id` | nah |
| 20:41.44 | Beladona | thats it |
| 20:41.46 | JoshBorke | i don't really like the green |
| 20:42.01 | id` | last one :p |
| 20:42.09 | JoshBorke | lol, yea, last one i like best :-P |
| 20:42.13 | Beladona | thought you might say that |
| 20:42.26 | id` | but id make red grey, but thats just me ^^ |
| 20:42.38 | id` | <-- loves grey |
| 20:42.52 | JoshBorke | i think the color difference isn't enough between the text and background on the red though |
| 20:43.42 | JoshBorke | the 'Patch Notes' on the test versions stands out more than the 'Test changes' does on the live versions. but that's just me nit-picking |
| 20:43.43 | Beladona | really? |
| 20:43.55 | Beladona | I would think the blue would be the one that needs to be darker |
| 20:44.00 | JoshBorke | i think i said the first sentence wrong |
| 20:44.00 | Beladona | the text I mean |
| 20:44.21 | JoshBorke | i think the blue does fairly well, maybe a shade darker |
| 20:44.25 | Beladona | that is because those are disabled |
| 20:44.36 | Beladona | disabled links are supposed to be super light but still fairly visible |
| 20:44.54 | Beladona | I don't have patch notes for the text versions |
| 20:45.03 | Beladona | test* |
| 20:45.10 | JoshBorke | i mean, the disable text should be lighter :-) |
| 20:45.15 | Beladona | ahh kk |
| 20:45.37 | JoshBorke | i should really say what i mean rather than what i think i should |
| 20:47.01 | MentalPower | I've come to the conclusion that :AddMessage() is extremely expensive. Inspecting someone goes from ~300ms (printing all the items) to ~20ms (only printing a completion report) |
| 20:48.31 | krka | :AddMessage in general or to a visible textframe? |
| 20:48.45 | MentalPower | to a visible textframe |
| 20:48.54 | MentalPower | haven't tried to a hidden one |
| 20:50.28 | Beladona | hidden text frames don't recieve updates anyway do they? |
| 20:50.55 | JoshBorke | does the Debug.xml file still exist? |
| 20:50.59 | Beladona | no |
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| 20:51.13 | Beladona | you mean DebugUI.xml |
| 20:51.17 | JoshBorke | yea |
| 20:51.35 | JoshBorke | what was the last version it was in? because that would be awesome while making my mod |
| 20:51.41 | Beladona | http://wdn.wowinterface.com -- make sure you refresh |
| 20:51.45 | Beladona | new colors |
| 20:51.50 | JoshBorke | i like |
| 20:52.24 | MentalPower | I like too |
| 20:52.33 | Beladona | =D |
| 20:53.16 | JoshBorke | why did they take out DebugUI.xml? |
| 20:53.17 | MentalPower | oh, and inspecting and printing all items to a hidden chatframe is ~2ms |
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| 20:57.34 | Iriel | I love the smell of shortened macros in the afternoon. |
| 20:57.46 | Tem|Pvp | fun stuff |
| 20:57.59 | krka | what if you hide the frame, print, show the frame? |
| 20:58.02 | krka | would that be faster? |
| 20:58.26 | Iriel | ? |
| 20:58.51 | GenNMX|Thrae | Does using a Lua file that give abbreviations to often-used WoW API functions count? |
| 20:59.18 | Legorol | count for what? |
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| 21:00.16 | Iriel | GenNMX|Thrae : No, in fact, I even consider compat.lua (or equivalent) cheating |
| 21:00.52 | JoshBorke | id`: I like your vim changes |
| 21:01.00 | Iriel | krka: If that question I come in to see (I missed the conversation before it) is related to wow, then I'm pretty sure that hide/draw/show is always going to be slower than just draw |
| 21:01.34 | Shadowd | <MentalPower> I've come to the conclusion that :AddMessage() is extremely expensive. Inspecting someone goes from ~300ms (printing all the items) to ~20ms (only printing a completion report) |
| 21:01.47 | id` | JoshBorke: good :-) ASk kergoth he went mental lately on his vim stuff (vim 7) |
| 21:01.52 | id` | hmm hes not here |
| 21:01.58 | id` | ##ace :p |
| 21:01.59 | Shouryuu | vim? |
| 21:02.03 | id` | an editor |
| 21:02.05 | JoshBorke | the >-- had me a little confused for a second :-D |
| 21:02.06 | id` | vim.org |
| 21:02.14 | Legorol | what about vim... |
| 21:02.16 | id` | JoshBorke: hehe, that's just for out-of-gvim |
| 21:02.19 | Legorol | is he making a version of vim for WoW? |
| 21:02.29 | JoshBorke | that would be awesome |
| 21:02.35 | id` | no Legorol, his vimrc is 700 lines or so |
| 21:02.39 | id` | :P |
| 21:02.41 | Iriel | Ah, yes, that doesn't surprise me. AddMessage has font rendering and scrolling and stuff. |
| 21:02.42 | JoshBorke | i keep finding myself hitting 'i' when using tinypad |
| 21:02.45 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.52 | id` | Iriel: scrolling? |
| 21:03.08 | id` | JoshBorke: so true, i leave :w's etc everywhere |
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| 21:05.22 | Shouryuu | is there a how-to somewhere out there that explains how to "supress" some chat messages. For instance send a tell, but not see it in your chat log (don't ask why this is just a crazy example)? |
| 21:06.12 | Shadowd | Hook ChatFrame_OnEvent, check if it's the event you want, check if it's the arguments you want, return;. At the bottom of the hook call the original? |
| 21:06.17 | JoshBorke | OH! i DO have a real question. Is there a way to tell if you are sitting or standing? I know there is "SitOrStand()" but that just sits or stand, right? |
| 21:06.38 | Shouryuu | I don't think there is |
| 21:07.06 | Shouryuu | I guess you can just count the number of times you've pressed the "sit" button and when you've gone afk and see according to that |
| 21:07.24 | JoshBorke | you'd also have to check for drinking/eating |
| 21:07.28 | Shouryuu | aye |
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| 21:07.46 | JoshBorke | i'll just stick with don't try to cast anything while sitting |
| 21:07.51 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:07.58 | Iriel | id': Yes, scrolling -- When you add new messages, all the old ones move up. |
| 21:08.10 | id` | oh, that scrolling |
| 21:08.17 | JoshBorke | Iriel: would that not happen to a hidden window though? |
| 21:08.27 | id` | Iriel: pm :p |
| 21:08.36 | krka | yes, but wouldn't have to do anything until it's actually visible |
| 21:08.53 | Iriel | JoshBorke : It still has to scroll the contents in the buffer |
| 21:08.59 | Iriel | It doesn't have to render until it's visible |
| 21:09.08 | Iriel | but it's only RENDERED once per frame |
| 21:09.08 | Shouryuu | shadowd - gimme an addon that does what I'm asking and I'l try to figure it out from there :P |
| 21:09.21 | JoshBorke | shouryuu: whispercast |
| 21:09.21 | Iriel | so if you hide/add/show, you're adding all the OnHide/OnShow visibility crap on top of rendering |
| 21:09.25 | Shadowd | Well SSPVP does it, i can go post the code quickly one sec. |
| 21:09.46 | Shouryuu | thanks :p |
| 21:10.01 | Shadowd | http://pastebin.com/565661 |
| 21:10.05 | id` | Iriel: pm? :P |
| 21:10.25 | Shouryuu | arghhhh clutttter =( http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avpic2hk.jpg |
| 21:10.35 | Shouryuu | thanks |
| 21:11.35 | Shouryuu | actualy there's a HOW to at wowwiki. I knew I saw those first two lines somewhere :p |
| 21:11.48 | Shouryuu | although the one on wiki is sea depended |
| 21:12.08 | Shadowd | I just figured out how to do it using the CT code :p |
| 21:12.44 | JoshBorke | shouryuu: no, the wiki is just showing how you can do it using sea also, but it gives how to do it without sea (i was looking at it earlier :-D) |
| 21:12.56 | Shouryuu | <== is not a very good programmer |
| 21:13.15 | JoshBorke | shouryuu: me neither :-) i just ask a lot of questions |
| 21:13.28 | Shouryuu | Josh- Well the first line said it needed sea, so I just guessed it did :P |
| 21:13.29 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 21:17.09 | Tain | gaaaaaaah billing day, no forum for me. |
| 21:17.17 | Iriel | You have my profoundest sympathies |
| 21:17.35 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:17.54 | Tain | I am starting to believe it is a conspiracy to force people to 6 month or longer subscriptions so that they don't have to see it happen as often. |
| 21:20.12 | Shouryuu | arghhh login servers down |
| 21:20.15 | Shouryuu | damn you tain! |
| 21:20.17 | Shouryuu | you did that |
| 21:21.45 | Tain | My fury at reading the lasted G15 post must have done it. |
| 21:21.49 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:21.54 | Shouryuu | I just skip those |
| 21:21.57 | Tain | lasted? |
| 21:22.05 | Tain | What the hell kind of word is that. |
| 21:22.12 | Shouryuu | lol I read latest |
| 21:22.13 | Tain | In this context. |
| 21:22.26 | Tain | My fingers are rebelling. |
| 21:26.33 | JoshBorke | yay for the heal messages coming after the heals land |
| 21:29.28 | Shouryuu | ya |
| 21:29.31 | Shouryuu | I read that earlier |
| 21:29.41 | Shouryuu | and went whipee! |
| 21:30.29 | JoshBorke | does that mean they've gotten rid of the 'bob dies; your fireblast hits bob for 1031' too? (play a paladin so I never kill anything) |
| 21:30.38 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:30.39 | Shouryuu | dunno |
| 21:30.52 | Shadowd | It's just making sure he stays dead |
| 21:30.57 | Shadowd | Helpful against shamans |
| 21:30.57 | Shouryuu | but the "you heal bob for 5k" "bob dies" made me angry! |
| 21:31.03 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 21:31.09 | Shouryuu | says the paladin :p |
| 21:31.18 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 21:31.29 | Shouryuu | Paladin can actualy dish out some DPS now, it isn't fun |
| 21:31.38 | JoshBorke | i know, but i spec'd out of that |
| 21:31.43 | Shouryuu | I can get killed by them! |
| 21:31.49 | Shouryuu | You're healing/ |
| 21:32.12 | JoshBorke | it's kinda bad for me too. 1 week after I respec'd to do healing/buffing, I get a Halberd of Smiting from ZG :-/ |
| 21:32.14 | Shouryuu | Paladins are just the *best* pvp healers, no questions asked |
| 21:32.18 | JoshBorke | yea, i'm a healerdin |
| 21:32.19 | Shouryuu | haha |
| 21:32.30 | ckknight | Shaman > Paladin |
| 21:32.30 | Shadowd | Paladin + Priest is a great combo too |
| 21:32.33 | ckknight | <cough /> |
| 21:32.41 | JoshBorke | oh man, paladin+priest rox |
| 21:32.43 | Tain | Rogues make great healers. |
| 21:32.43 | Shouryuu | priest just get two shotted by rogues |
| 21:32.45 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:32.48 | JoshBorke | especially a shadow priest |
| 21:32.50 | Shadowd | It's not actually that bad |
| 21:32.52 | Shouryuu | Julie's dagger! |
| 21:33.03 | Shouryuu | it is that bad |
| 21:33.07 | Shouryuu | being a priest is bad |
| 21:33.11 | JoshBorke | BoP a priest and that rogue is dead |
| 21:33.13 | Shadowd | Paladin, Priest, Druid and Warrior and you have a solid flag defence. |
| 21:33.16 | Shouryuu | hunters and rogue and warrior just kill you |
| 21:33.18 | Tain | Just look at it. Rogue kills you quick, you're at graveyard, boom heal back to full with one button. |
| 21:33.24 | Shadowd | can't forget BoS either |
| 21:33.31 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 21:33.35 | Shouryuu | Tain- I use that for mana |
| 21:34.13 | JoshBorke | someone in my guild said that if 2 paladins BoSac each other, they can DI without dieing |
| 21:34.14 | Shadowd | You'd be suprised. A Priest can last a fair bit of time if they have good support |
| 21:34.25 | Shouryuu | yeah I know |
| 21:34.33 | Shouryuu | And priest are master escapists |
| 21:34.45 | Shouryuu | they can really survive lots of shit if they play properly |
| 21:34.54 | Shouryuu | but there is no such thing as support in AV |
| 21:35.02 | Tain | Anyway you think the Blizzard forums are bad with G15 posts, you should see a couple of the G15 forums with WoW posts. The dumbest thing you've seen in a G15 thread on the WoW board is a candidate for mensa on some of the G15 boards. |
| 21:35.18 | JoshBorke | i support in AV |
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| 21:35.26 | Shouryuu | mensa? |
| 21:35.32 | JoshBorke | guard the flags with Consecrate(Rank 1) |
| 21:35.33 | Shouryuu | I never get supported |
| 21:35.36 | Shadowd | AV is only interesting for intimidating shouting a group, shield wall then spamming /dance |
| 21:35.36 | Shouryuu | haha |
| 21:35.45 | Shouryuu | shadowd- lol |
| 21:35.58 | Shouryuu | AV is interesting for EZ rep |
| 21:36.07 | Shouryuu | 1/3 of the way till exhalted |
| 21:36.13 | Tain | Oh Mensa is an organization of people who only allow people of a certain high intelligence level. Allegedly. |
| 21:36.13 | Shadowd | And then you never want to touch the place after exalted |
| 21:36.18 | Shouryuu | then I get a +33healing 5mana/5sec off hand :P |
| 21:36.29 | Shouryuu | yeah I know |
| 21:36.46 | JoshBorke | mmm, i can't wait until i get exhalted |
| 21:36.49 | Shouryuu | same |
| 21:36.53 | Shouryuu | I want that offhand |
| 21:36.53 | JoshBorke | Lei of the Lifegiver |
| 21:36.56 | Shouryuu | my first epic |
| 21:36.57 | Shadowd | Just roll on IC, we get AV up daily. |
| 21:36.59 | JoshBorke | i currently have +300 healing |
| 21:36.59 | Shouryuu | *droooolll* |
| 21:37.05 | Shouryuu | wowwww |
| 21:37.13 | Shouryuu | a guy in my guild is aiming for +1k |
| 21:37.17 | JoshBorke | WOW |
| 21:37.32 | Shouryuu | he has some nice equip |
| 21:37.41 | Shouryuu | he's a druid and heals better than I do, or at least for more |
| 21:37.48 | JoshBorke | i've got Judgement helm, and LB Chest,bracers,pants,boots |
| 21:38.24 | Shouryuu | I need to ask him to post his profile somewhere |
| 21:38.43 | Shouryuu | ARGH I WANT PRIEST TALENTS |
| 21:38.54 | JoshBorke | but when i go for all out +healing, i have +51 from gloves and +59 from pants |
| 21:39.10 | Shouryuu | I love Blizzard http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/basics/chat.html |
| 21:39.10 | Shadowd | Trade you DS for BOP |
| 21:39.24 | Osagasu | So do I Shour... I wanna see if there'll be a reason for me to play my priest again |
| 21:39.55 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 21:40.00 | Shouryuu | I love my priest! |
| 21:40.12 | JoshBorke | so i have a WoW question, not UI related. what exactly does it mean when it's AV weekend? does that mean whenever we win, we get 3 tokens, and lose gets 2 tokens? |
| 21:40.24 | Shadowd | It means you get double bonus honor and more rep. |
| 21:40.34 | Shadowd | No you still get the same amount of tokens |
| 21:40.53 | Shouryuu | it means for each guard you kill, you don't get +1rep but +2 |
| 21:41.28 | JoshBorke | i see |
| 21:41.33 | Shadowd | Holiday/weekend just means that you get more rep/bonus honor. Like non holiday WSG is about 1,400 bonus honor and 14 rep per a capture. WSG holiday means you get around 2,300 bonus honor and 14 + 14 rep for a capture. |
| 21:41.50 | JoshBorke | excellent |
| 21:42.15 | JoshBorke | i've been in 1 WSG/AB :-X |
| 21:42.23 | Shadowd | Get to start somewhere! |
| 21:42.28 | Shadowd | s/Get/Got/ |
| 21:43.07 | Shouryuu | I want that badass healing dagger from AB |
| 21:43.19 | Shouryuu | but you need exalted with them, which is impossible |
| 21:43.24 | JoshBorke | yea, i was drooling over that for a week, then it dawned on me that it was a dagger and not a sword :-( |
| 21:43.42 | Shouryuu | haha paladins can't use daggers? |
| 21:43.52 | JoshBorke | no, no dagger and no stave |
| 21:43.54 | Shadowd | It's going to be easier to get exalted with AB though then WSG, depending on your server. |
| 21:44.08 | Shouryuu | exalted with AB is impossible |
| 21:44.13 | Shouryuu | you get so little rep |
| 21:44.19 | Shadowd | You get more rep with AB then WSG |
| 21:44.31 | Shouryuu | but sooo much less rep in AB than AV |
| 21:44.51 | JoshBorke | my goal is Jin'do's hexxer, just have to convince my guild to go after Jin'do |
| 21:44.57 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 21:45.12 | JoshBorke | we finally cleared through arlokk this past weekend |
| 21:45.14 | Shadowd | Well the idea behind the amount of rep in AV is that you'll either be there a while 2-3+ hours instead of 20-30 minutes in WSG/AB, or it wont come up as often. |
| 21:45.38 | JoshBorke | shadowd: yea, and everyone hates the long drawn out AV games |
| 21:46.04 | JoshBorke | on my server at least |
| 21:46.07 | Shouryuu | same |
| 21:46.12 | Shadowd | Everyone hates AV on every server :p |
| 21:46.20 | Shouryuu | although there is this tendancy to lose in less than 2hours right now |
| 21:46.35 | Shouryuu | AV is fun when it seems like everyone is playing together |
| 21:46.37 | JoshBorke | most of the matches i've been in have been under 1hour |
| 21:46.50 | Shouryuu | haha i've been in like 10hour matches |
| 21:47.15 | JoshBorke | what do you think of the ability to switch between battlegrounds? |
| 21:47.23 | Shadowd | Eh |
| 21:47.42 | Shouryuu | only to get kicked out because I was bitching about how told them not to summon lok to cap SP because he'd get trained to the general... And no one listed, and he got trained =( |
| 21:48.13 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 21:48.16 | Shouryuu | Josh - It's useless and dumb |
| 21:48.23 | Shadowd | It's nice because it does bring up the battlegrounds that don't come up as often, but the fact that you can lose half your team when AB pops is annoying. |
| 21:48.31 | JoshBorke | yea, i agree |
| 21:48.33 | Shouryuu | I spent 6 hours in one AV, got d/ced and could never join again |
| 21:48.38 | Shadowd | Or, you can get bad luck and have AB and AV pop at the same time while in WSG. |
| 21:49.04 | JoshBorke | i don't think you should be able to switch between battlegrounds because it doesn't seem fair to those in the battlegrounds |
| 21:49.11 | Shouryuu | because when I got d/ced, we were starting to win =( So everyone wanted in! |
| 21:49.25 | Shadowd | Well if they hadn't done that, then the feature would have been worthless or people could just AFK out and then join. |
| 21:49.29 | Shouryuu | the deserter thing sucks =( |
| 21:49.34 | Shadowd | But yeah, deserter has to go |
| 21:49.40 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 21:50.03 | Shadowd | It was poorly implemented, and you just need to have one friend to get around it anyway. |
| 21:50.09 | Shouryuu | if a guy afk's out, he isn't joining in anytime soon |
| 21:50.25 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 21:50.32 | GenNMX|Thrae | Shouryuu: I think you should be able to d/c or AFK out and have ~5 minutes to rejoin if you spent over 1 hour in the BG. |
| 21:50.54 | Shadowd | You can get around deserter buff Shouryuu. Just have one friend who isn't debuffed. Join raid, move the deserter guy out of your party and group queue. |
| 21:50.59 | JoshBorke | the debuff ticks while you are not logged in, right? |
| 21:51.20 | Shadowd | nope |
| 21:51.21 | JoshBorke | i think that is the worst part |
| 21:51.26 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 21:51.29 | Shadowd | If you're in AV, AFK out and go to sleep it'll still be up when you wake up the next day |
| 21:51.44 | JoshBorke | i don't understand why you have to be logged in to tick the debuff |
| 21:52.18 | Iriel | Otherwise it's no challenge |
| 21:52.28 | Shadowd | ? |
| 21:52.31 | Iriel | If you have just a couple of high level alts you can be an ass as long as you want. |
| 21:52.57 | Iriel | The whole point of the debuff is for folks to not leave during a battle. |
| 21:53.38 | Shadowd | But basically all it's done is cause more problems for the legitimate players and doesn't hinder any of the people who leave if they have a high level friend or second account. |
| 21:53.38 | Shouryuu | believe me, if I want to leave a BG, it's not to join it within the next 15 mins |
| 21:53.53 | Shouryuu | that may be the whole point of it, but it just prevents people from entering it |
| 21:54.01 | Iriel | Well, I agree that the friend thing you listed above is an exploit that needs to be fixed |
| 21:54.17 | Shadowd | The whole thing needs to be fixed, it's just buggy |
| 21:54.45 | Shadowd | Like, maybe a WSG game will end in 20 seconds and AB pops. So you think "Oh great, I can go right into AB", but in that 20 seconds the AB game ended and you joined a finished game (mark/bonus honor given out), you're now deserter debuffed and can't rejoin for the next 15 minutes. |
| 21:55.05 | JoshBorke | can you que with the debuff? |
| 21:55.07 | Shadowd | Yes |
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| 21:55.18 | Shadowd | Not solo queue, you can queue if you have a friend whos in your bracket though. |
| 21:55.47 | Shouryuu | is that considered an exploit? |
| 21:56.06 | JoshBorke | so, because I have to log-out mid battle for a real life reason, the next time i come back, i have to wait 10 minutes before i can join a battleground, even if i was gone for 8 hours |
| 21:56.10 | JoshBorke | that doesn't make any sense to me |
| 21:56.18 | Shadowd | Well, the error message says party not raid. So I guess technically not |
| 21:56.55 | Shadowd | But i can't imagine they want it to only apply to yourself and your party |
| 21:57.19 | JoshBorke | but i suppose the multiple high level toons can fit in so that people can just get each toon with a debuff |
| 21:57.37 | Shouryuu | but who does that... |
| 21:57.44 | Shouryuu | it just causes more porblems than it solves |
| 21:58.32 | GenNMX|Thrae | I think AV should be redesigned to never end -- it can last a ridiculously long time. |
| 21:58.37 | Shouryuu | who actually voluntarely joins multiple BGs with multiple alts to just leave and piss ppl off... |
| 21:58.43 | Shadowd | AV should randomly give area death spells to people |
| 21:58.48 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 21:58.58 | Beladona | back soon |
| 21:59.02 | GenNMX|Thrae | Shadowd: Randomly turn them into Mages? |
| 21:59.17 | Shadowd | I said area death, not "50,000 frost bolts on a single person" :p |
| 21:59.26 | Shadowd | *50,000 damage |
| 21:59.31 | JoshBorke | later :-) |
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| 22:04.33 | Shouryuu | well goodnight |
| 22:30.36 | MentalPower | ok, here's a very technical Lua question, what takes less memory in Lua, true or 1? |
| 22:37.54 | Iriel | true |
| 22:38.06 | Iriel | BUT |
| 22:38.19 | Iriel | all 'plain lua objects' are represented by the same amount of memory |
| 22:38.37 | Iriel | so even though true is 'shorter', there's padding up to the space that a '1' would have taken |
| 22:38.53 | Iriel | I should say, a 1 would have taken |
| 22:39.02 | Iriel | a '1' is a string and thus another beast altogether |
| 22:39.17 | Iriel | So you have something like |
| 22:39.24 | Iriel | <type><boolean><padding> |
| 22:39.43 | Iriel | <type>< double > |
| 22:40.04 | Iriel | (The boolean is actually an int, but that's getting far further than you wanted to go) |
| 22:40.16 | Iriel | Did I overanswer your question yet? |
| 22:40.22 | ckknight | hey, are there numbers and integers or just numbers? |
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| 22:41.14 | *** join/#wowi-lounge Ktron (i=Khamer@student2a-64.unh.edu) |
| 22:41.32 | Ktron | Hey everyone |
| 22:41.33 | futr-sleep | both, there are probably ints but they'll act like floats if you let it |
| 22:41.41 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:41.58 | futr-sleep | don't believe me though, I know nothing about lua ;'] |
| 22:42.00 | ckknight | alright, now do ints grow from 32-bit to 64-bit to bigints or what? |
| 22:42.35 | Iriel | all numbers are doubles |
| 22:42.40 | ckknight | okay |
| 22:42.56 | ckknight | so does it change to bigreals or what? |
| 22:42.58 | Iriel | no |
| 22:43.01 | Iriel | they're just doubles |
| 22:43.05 | ckknight | 32-bit or 64-bit? |
| 22:43.13 | Iriel | That depends on how slouken compiled it. |
| 22:43.20 | Iriel | I'd imagine 64 bit or more |
| 22:43.29 | Ktron | Anyone online right now who has experience with getting World of Warcraft to work under linux? |
| 22:43.32 | ckknight | it'll either be 32-bit, 64-bit, or 80-bit |
| 22:49.17 | digix | Ktron: I can get to my character screen, but mine locks up on login for some reason.... thats as far as Ive gotten |
| 22:49.48 | AnduinLothar | Gates are open on Kil'Jaeden |
| 22:51.23 | Ktron | heh... I know that there's at least one person who frequents this channel who runs WoW under linux |
| 22:51.43 | Ktron | just not who :) |
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| 22:55.16 | Iriel | I think Beladona does |
| 22:55.19 | Iriel | but there's at least one more |
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| 23:02.54 | MentalPower | thanks for the answer Iriel :) |
| 23:03.46 | MentalPower | and since you're here, bookworm is yours right? |
| 23:06.16 | Ktron | big chatting guide out from WoW |
| 23:06.19 | Ktron | heh |
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| 23:12.30 | MentalPower | ok, a little searching told me it was so... http://norganna.org/bb/index.php?showtopic=1356&st=0&#entry6066 |
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| 23:39.48 | Iriel | Yes, bookworm is mine. |
| 23:40.11 | Iriel | I'm aware of the scrollbar issue, i've been distracted of late and haven't fixed it yet tho |
| 23:45.30 | MentalPower | ok, thanks |
| 23:54.23 | Osagasu | Hey Cair |
| 23:54.29 | Cairenn | yo |
| 23:55.21 | MentalPower | great, forums are down |
| 23:55.34 | Cairenn | yup |
| 23:56.36 | AnduinLothar | cair, is there a way to add an addon+deps download zip or do i have to enable patches and add one myself? |
| 23:57.07 | Cairenn | not following, explain further, please? |
| 23:57.50 | AnduinLothar | on wowi. Say I have ArcanePartyBars and i want to have an ArcanePartyBars.zip and a ArcanePartyBars+Dependancies.zip |
| 23:58.29 | Cairenn | either 2 seperate, or yah, turn on patches & plugins and then post there |
| 23:59.05 | AnduinLothar | meh |
| 23:59.47 | Cairenn | can post in the suggestion forum, asking Dolby if there is some other way he can set it up |
