| 00:07.20 | Tem | ok it's time for me to head out |
| 00:07.22 | Tem | later people |
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| 00:14.44 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 00:16.35 | AnduinLothar | and no, I didn't know the icon wasn't orig. We were considering having an icon contest for a new one anyway |
| 00:49.48 | wereHamster | it seems that an addon can't bind keybindings to MOUSE4 and MOUSE5.. can anyone else confirm that? |
| 00:49.55 | wereHamster | in PTR.. |
| 00:57.05 | Osagasu | I dunno |
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| 01:03.25 | wereHamster | it's BUTTON4 and not MOUSE4 .. sorry |
| 01:04.05 | wereHamster | hm.. all my addons seem to work fine on PTR :-) |
| 01:07.58 | End | finally! |
| 01:08.02 | End | I got a new gamecard |
| 01:12.20 | Cairenn | grats |
| 01:17.46 | wereHamster | what exactly was changed in the GameTooltip? does it need an anchor now to work properly? |
| 01:20.46 | Iriel | Currently I think so, that appears to be a bug tho, Slouken seemed surprised by it |
| 01:23.06 | wereHamster | a simple this:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_NONE"); in the OnLoad() handler seemed to fix this bug.. |
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| 01:32.34 | Iriel | For anyone who was around for yesterday's discussion of Embeddable Shared Libraries: http://www.iriel.org/wow/addondev/embedlibrary1.html |
| 01:34.23 | AnduinLothar | i onyl came in on the tail end, what was the convo about? |
| 01:34.46 | AnduinLothar | spose i can read the site.. |
| 01:35.08 | Iriel | The convo was about different approaches to it (Mostly Shared versus Non-Shared) |
| 01:35.26 | Iriel | Anyway, I've written up a framework for doing robust shared embedded libraries, with sample code |
| 01:38.07 | AnduinLothar | your code looks twice as long as code I'm implimented for the same purpose... I'm wondering what the diff is. Only thing I can see is sort of the drag and drop aproach |
| 01:38.25 | Iriel | You can strip out a lot if you dont have to worry about transforming data etc |
| 01:38.59 | Iriel | My goal was to come up with something that would 'just work' |
| 01:39.07 | AnduinLothar | right |
| 01:39.23 | AnduinLothar | what do you mean by transforming data? |
| 01:39.43 | Iriel | Well, suppose your library caches the contents of the spellbook |
| 01:39.54 | Iriel | Actually a cache is a bad example, they're easily rebuilt |
| 01:40.02 | AnduinLothar | you mean conversion to a newer format |
| 01:40.08 | Iriel | Basically, yes |
| 01:40.24 | AnduinLothar | for svaed vars mostly |
| 01:40.35 | Iriel | Well, not really |
| 01:40.43 | Iriel | Libraries rarely manage saved variables directly |
| 01:40.51 | Iriel | though I guess that's a possibility |
| 01:41.12 | AnduinLothar | then what would you have to convert? |
| 01:41.31 | Iriel | Maybe data that's been collected in-game during the session for something |
| 01:41.53 | AnduinLothar | mmm, most of that would be caches that could be rebuilt onload... |
| 01:42.31 | AnduinLothar | can't think of any libs that collect data but dont save it.. |
| 01:42.47 | AnduinLothar | mobhealth for player data, maybe |
| 01:43.01 | Iriel | Think about 1.10 |
| 01:43.12 | Iriel | And libraries that might create on-demand frames |
| 01:43.16 | Iriel | for event collection, etc |
| 01:43.37 | AnduinLothar | ok.. |
| 01:43.47 | AnduinLothar | so using precreated frames.. |
| 01:47.45 | AnduinLothar | anyway. looks nifty. I'm an example kinda guy tho. i only read the docs when I have to :P |
| 01:48.11 | Iriel | Page 4 has plenty of examples, but the docs are handy for some rationale behind a couple of things |
| 01:52.34 | AnduinLothar | so, while I'm adding input options to khaos, got any suggestions? |
| 01:52.51 | AnduinLothar | just added multi-line editbox support |
| 01:53.26 | AnduinLothar | trying to figure out how to add drag&drop actionbutton |
| 01:54.05 | AnduinLothar | ooh, I could jsut scale it down, that'd fit |
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| 02:31.24 | MentalPower | anyone else watching the oscars? |
| 02:31.31 | Cairenn | nope |
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| 02:32.33 | Cairenn | you are the only person in the entire world who is watching them |
| 02:40.02 | Gryphen | w00t viewer ratings up to 2 |
| 02:40.56 | clad|dinner | THanks for posting that Iriel |
| 02:41.04 | clad|dinner | I'll take a deeper look at it tomorrow at work |
| 02:44.27 | Cairenn | rofl, I like Malreth's response to your thread about it on the Blizz forum, Iriel |
| 02:46.39 | Cairenn | night clad|sleep, sweet dreams |
| 02:47.08 | clad|sleep | sorry guys.. bad night tonight |
| 02:47.15 | clad|sleep | have a good evening. |
| 02:47.18 | sancus | haha you know you're in a quality raid dungeon when someone gets a world first kill and posts a big fuck you to the dev team |
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| 02:50.13 | Tain | Generally people who post a big fuck you to the dev team are beneath warranting my attention. |
| 02:56.48 | sancus | It's kind of a tradition for the top players to do that. |
| 02:57.09 | sancus | It got Furor and Tigole their jobs, after all! |
| 02:57.28 | Tain | Ah, that's a whole other discussion that gets people all up in arms. |
| 02:57.54 | sancus | I wasn't saying they do bad jobs, they don't, but it IS very very much what got them the jobs in the first place, you can't argue that. |
| 02:58.10 | Tain | I'm still of the opinion that they got offered jobs so they wouldn't complain as much. Others say they earned them. etc. etc. |
| 02:58.11 | sancus | So they should be quite capable of taking the bitching now that they're on the other side |
| 02:58.38 | sancus | That doesnt really make any sense, at least with regards to Tigole |
| 02:58.46 | Tain | See what I mean. |
| 02:58.49 | sancus | If you want to shut people up you hire them and stick them in meaningless corner jobs |
| 02:58.54 | sancus | You don't make them your lead designer. |
| 02:59.29 | sancus | He's obviously earned that |
| 02:59.32 | Tain | It doesn't make sense to stick someone in a meaningless corner job if you want them to be quiet. They'd bitch about that. |
| 02:59.53 | sancus | Not if they want to keep the job, they wouldn't. |
| 02:59.56 | sancus | And most likely they would. |
| 03:00.03 | Tain | But like I said, it gets people all up in arms. |
| 03:00.31 | sancus | eh I'm not up in arms, I just see that Tigole is doing a better job than most people in his position in the industry so however he got the job, he's not doing too badly |
| 03:01.15 | Tain | Blizzard generally makes good business and PR decisions. |
| 03:01.33 | sancus | though honestly |
| 03:01.39 | sancus | the back off of AQ40 is a pretty big fuck up |
| 03:01.42 | Tain | Not always of course, they could be running almost a perfect record if not for the bnet emulator debacle. |
| 03:01.42 | sancus | er back half |
| 03:09.01 | sancus | sigh @ ouro |
| 03:44.26 | Osagasu | Yet another bug added to my list in the 1.10 Addon bug list |
| 03:46.32 | Cairenn | not sure whether anyone's even bothering to read it Osagasu, dunno whether it's doing any good or not |
| 03:46.52 | Cairenn | and, Blissfulpain has started a page on the wiki, as well, so /shrug |
| 03:47.04 | Iriel | I suspect things will be slow to update until the queues are rational |
| 03:47.24 | Cairenn | whole reason I had started it on WoWI instead of the Blizz forums or the Wiki is because of the ability to attach screenshots at WoWI |
| 03:47.35 | Tain | Get those other test servers up and running! |
| 03:48.04 | Cairenn | yeah, really |
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| 03:50.34 | Iriel | Yeah, I think WoWI is a better place than either of the others |
| 03:51.13 | Tain | I'll sing the praises of wowwiki all day long. But it isn't really the best place for something like that, in my opinion. |
| 03:51.31 | Cairenn | the Wiki rocks for some things, undoubtedly |
| 03:51.48 | Wobin_ | whazzat? |
| 03:51.54 | Cairenn | there is no question of that |
| 03:53.14 | Iriel | The wiki's good for stuff which is intended to last |
| 03:53.22 | Iriel | Not something ephemeral like a conversation or discussion |
| 03:53.23 | Cairenn | we were talking about the thread(s) from authors (and reasonable end users) to help other authors track down bugs in their mods for 1.10 |
| 03:54.02 | Cairenn | and that for various reasons, it makes more sense for it to be on WoWI than on either the Blizz forum or the Wiki |
| 03:54.18 | zeeg | ya know, thats kind of sad.. |
| 03:54.19 | zeeg | http://www.bahamutns.com/guruzoom2.jpg |
| 03:54.25 | zeeg | thats ugly as shit, but its easier to navigate/read than the site |
| 03:54.26 | Cairenn | (or some other similar site as WoWI) |
| 03:55.10 | zeeg | you can attach images to wkis i thought |
| 03:55.17 | Iriel | You can yes |
| 03:55.23 | Iriel | but you can't easily DELETE them afterwards |
| 03:57.17 | Wobin_ | I would have to agree with Iriel, for a discussion on bugs that occur for a change in codebase, that will only effectively happen once, it's better off not using the wiki, which is more of a medium for static information... |
| 03:57.19 | zeeg | gotcha |
| 03:58.03 | Wobin_ | Unless you're discussing methodolgies to track down bugs |
| 04:00.39 | zeeg | IMO sticking bugs in ocmments for files works best |
| 04:00.43 | zeeg | unless that site has ticketing |
| 04:01.55 | Wobin_ | Isn't the discussion more revolving around authors who have found bugs, giving advice as to how to find issues in current code for the current changes to other authors? |
| 04:02.55 | Cairenn | zeeg: we're not talking about bugs in mods that are currently live, we are talking about a heads-up to authors that X bug has been found in their mod on Test, since there are such ridiculous queues to get logged in |
| 04:03.22 | zeeg | isnt that the same thing? |
| 04:03.27 | Cairenn | no |
| 04:03.32 | zeeg | a bugs a bug IMO |
| 04:03.36 | zeeg | that was a rhetorical question |
| 04:03.37 | zeeg | :P |
| 04:03.46 | Iriel | I know of very few addons that have been released for 1.10 |
| 04:03.51 | Iriel | Thus, very few actually have bugs |
| 04:03.58 | Iriel | Since a problem on 1.10 for a 1.9 addon isn't a bug per se |
| 04:04.00 | Wobin_ | proto-bugs =) |
| 04:04.06 | Iriel | It's a "problem which needs to be addressed" |
| 04:04.15 | Wobin_ | before it becomes a bug =) |
| 04:04.27 | Iriel | In some (possibly even MANY) cases, the authors already know what they'll be changing |
| 04:04.29 | zeeg | Iriel, i still dont see the reasoning it cant just be stuck in the comments |
| 04:04.31 | zeeg | or pm spam the author |
| 04:04.42 | Iriel | But since it takes 4 hours to get onto the test server, you wont see much action in terms of fixing things. |
| 04:05.22 | Tain | It doesn't help a single author, it's letting authors know in general that a certain type of funciton may not work properly in the future patch. |
| 04:06.13 | zeeg | so post on some boards |
| 04:06.15 | Wobin_ | I certainly would prefer to see a central list of functions that I can check off from... |
| 04:06.16 | Tain | And it's all in flux anyway since it is in test and can change. |
| 04:06.31 | Gryphen | explaining it wont help anything lol |
| 04:06.37 | Gryphen | may as well end it |
| 04:06.41 | zeeg | and wouldnt that help the wiki imo? |
| 04:06.47 | Wobin_ | /dramaquit? =P |
| 04:06.47 | Tain | Nope. |
| 04:06.52 | zeeg | Patch 1.10 changed these functions |
| 04:06.53 | zeeg | i think it would |
| 04:06.55 | zeeg | but who knows |
| 04:07.03 | zeeg | how about authors just learn to read the patch notes? |
| 04:07.05 | zeeg | and sotp being lazy |
| 04:07.10 | Tain | You're not paying attention. We're talking about patches in progress, not after they're final. |
| 04:07.17 | zeeg | so? |
| 04:07.21 | zeeg | wiki's can be amended |
| 04:07.25 | zeeg | most things wont change |
| 04:07.35 | zeeg | once its released to ptr the only addres bugs |
| 04:07.41 | zeeg | they dont make drastic changes |
| 04:07.43 | Tain | heh |
| 04:09.21 | zeeg | either that or the WoW forums would probably the best the most exposed places for this kind of thing |
| 04:09.47 | Wobin_ | huh. I've never encountered an anti-virus program that referred to fixing viruses as 'healing' =P |
| 04:10.04 | zeeg | pc-cillin? |
| 04:10.06 | zeeg | :P |
| 04:10.16 | Wobin_ | "3 files healed" =P |
| 04:10.58 | Tain | Wait.. what? Did I just read that right? zeeg suggested that someplace other than wowguru might be the best place for something? There is hope for the human race afterall! |
| 04:11.14 | Cairenn | ... |
| 04:11.56 | zeeg | Tain, why are you such an annoying piece of shit? |
| 04:12.04 | zeeg | and why havent you banned him Cairenn? |
| 04:12.07 | zeeg | i never start any of the crap |
| 04:13.38 | Tain | I have hope for humanity and that's annoying? That's sad. :( |
| 04:13.50 | Cairenn | Tain |
| 04:16.47 | Guillotine_ | w000000000000t! rag down on our first try! |
| 04:16.50 | Guillotine_ | I love my guild <3 |
| 04:16.55 | Cairenn | grats Guillotine_ |
| 04:16.59 | Tain | Congratulations, Guillotine! |
| 04:17.26 | Shadowd | grats |
| 04:18.37 | Iriel | I wonder how long it'll be before the 'Dungeons & Dragons Offline' jokes will start flying (They apparently just lost all of their servers again) |
| 04:19.19 | Cairenn | oh lord, again? |
| 04:19.35 | Iriel | Yup, again. |
| 04:19.43 | Wobin_ | That's really.... unprofessional =P |
| 04:19.48 | Iriel | "All servers are currently down or coming down. We'll post more information once it's available" |
| 04:20.10 | Iriel | that was 22 minutes ago |
| 04:20.13 | Iriel | they're all still down |
| 04:22.01 | Cairenn | fun |
| 04:22.02 | Tain | They could just say, "The DMs had to go on a Mountain Dew and Doritos run." and then at least people would understand. |
| 04:22.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:22.21 | Wobin_ | Hehe I'd be fine with that =P |
| 04:23.06 | Wobin_ | "D&D Online suggest that you spend at least 5 minutes in every hour walking about away from the computer. To facilitate this, we have brought the servers down for a short while. Please play the appropriate thinking music while you wait." |
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| 04:23.21 | Cairenn | hahahaha |
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| 04:24.29 | Tem | Any news on hidden tooltip parsing? |
| 04:24.56 | Tain | Wasn't anything new as of about an hour ago when I looked through. Anyone newer? |
| 04:25.41 | Cairenn | last thing from him was saying he needed a test case so he could cook up the fixie dust |
| 04:27.01 | Iriel | Hey there's a Gello on the DDO forums, I wonder if it's ours. |
| 04:27.13 | Tem | I would bet that it is |
| 04:27.22 | Cairenn | wouldn't surprise me |
| 04:27.31 | Wobin_ | fixie dust =) |
| 04:27.44 | Cairenn | Iriel coined that |
| 04:27.47 | Cairenn | I like it |
| 04:28.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:28.20 | Wobin_ | creative osmosis? |
| 04:28.24 | Iriel | Magic Fixie Dust 8-) |
| 04:28.31 | Tain | hehe fixie dust. |
| 04:28.32 | Cairenn | go poke him on WoWI Tem |
| 04:28.41 | Tem | I have before Cairenn |
| 04:28.45 | Cairenn | I've poked him before to come play with us |
| 04:28.53 | Tem | oh, not about IRC |
| 04:29.01 | Tem | I should... |
| 04:29.05 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 04:29.08 | Tain | Yeah actually I've learned so much through osmosis it would only help everyone. |
| 04:29.22 | Cairenn | he and Ty both need to hang with us more |
| 04:31.23 | Tain | Yeah we have Cide... well.. most of the time. |
| 04:31.44 | Tem | so, last night on the test server I got one of those Addon Blocked messages |
| 04:31.54 | Tem | but I was using the Default UI |
| 04:31.54 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 04:31.57 | Tem | and I was unable to reproduce it |
| 04:31.57 | Cairenn | no mods at all? |
| 04:32.02 | Tem | not a one |
| 04:32.06 | Cairenn | lol |
| 04:32.12 | Cairenn | that's sad |
| 04:32.31 | Tem | I wish I had read more of it before I just hit the "go away" button |
| 04:32.38 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 04:32.38 | Tem | (I was in AB when it happened) |
| 04:32.52 | Tem | All I read was "This macro or script has been blocked..." |
| 04:32.55 | Cairenn | real fast print screen |
| 04:33.16 | Tem | I think it got mad at me for trying to do a UseInventoryItem |
| 04:33.36 | Tem | (I made a macro for firing a trinket |
| 04:33.38 | Tem | ) |
| 04:34.10 | Tain | I lost a few of those messages at first because they're fire but BugSack would swallow them and not know what to do with them. |
| 04:35.06 | Tain | Although since they're interactive messages BugSack is going to have to ignore them. blah.. going to try to look at that if I get my computer back up tomorrow. |
| 04:42.02 | Kaelten | I wonder how many addons this is going to break |
| 04:42.16 | Cairenn | 1.10? or KCI? :p |
| 04:42.40 | Kaelten | lol, both |
| 04:42.54 | Kaelten | is it ClearLines() to reset a tooltip? |
| 04:44.03 | Cairenn | now don't you go sounding like a stupid end-user Kaelten, we already have enough of them around, don't need more :p "ZOMG BLIZZ BROK MI UIZ" |
| 04:44.39 | Tain | I got my account banned for third party software and the only thing I run is KCI! |
| 04:44.45 | MentalPower | OMG, Test server OWNZ! |
| 04:45.13 | MentalPower | I had all three battleground queues pop up at the same time 3seconds after joining them |
| 04:45.16 | Tem | Kaelten: tooltip:ClearLines() is probably what you are looking for, but don't expect it to behave like you think |
| 04:45.40 | Tem | Kaelten: ClearLines will SetText(nil) on all the TextLefti lines |
| 04:45.53 | Tem | Kaelten: but it only :Hide()s the TextRighti lines |
| 04:46.08 | Wobin_ | Clearly, it 'clears' the lines well =P |
| 04:47.16 | Tem | well the odd part of the behavior is that if you show a tooltip and the ClearLines, the TextRighti lines could still have data in them |
| 04:47.29 | Tem | s/and the/and then/ |
| 04:48.39 | Iriel | Amusing, not only are the DDO servers offline, but the DDO server status service is offline 8-) |
| 04:49.11 | Cairenn | bleh, they're really having a rough time |
| 04:49.41 | Iriel | Yeah, they've dropped off the face of the earth both nights this weekend |
| 04:49.52 | Wobin_ | ee. worst time |
| 04:51.31 | Kaelten | well I'm just wondering if I clear the tooltips will it not randomly show double info |
| 04:53.14 | Iriel | Kaelten : It should behave properly, if you clear it. The weird behavior is just if you're doing scanning |
| 04:55.06 | Kaelten | k |
| 05:00.31 | Kaelten | Cair can I get you to do me a favor? |
| 05:00.35 | Cairenn | no |
| 05:00.45 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 05:01.05 | Kaelten | could you delete my Feature Requests and Bug report sub forums? |
| 05:01.06 | Cairenn | 'sup? |
| 05:01.11 | Cairenn | you got it |
| 05:01.23 | Kaelten | portals kinda outdated those |
| 05:01.30 | Cairenn | okay with the fact all the threads in them are gonna poof? |
| 05:01.35 | Kaelten | yep |
| 05:01.41 | Cairenn | or want them all dumped into the main forum first, then delete? |
| 05:01.48 | Kaelten | just poof em all |
| 05:01.52 | Cairenn | done |
| 05:01.56 | Kaelten | thanks much |
| 05:02.00 | Cairenn | np |
| 05:02.19 | Cairenn | have been leaving those up to the individual authors, whether they want to keep them in addition to the portals or not |
| 05:02.27 | Cairenn | what about the Ace sub-forums? |
| 05:02.57 | Kaelten | I think those should be deleted, but dump those into the main forum |
| 05:03.30 | Kaelten | I'm going to make a post in both areas about how to go about doing those things |
| 05:05.02 | Cairenn | just like we've left the option to have comments on the download pages, authors can turn on or off as they choose |
| 05:07.03 | Kaelten | cool |
| 05:08.29 | Cairenn | posts move for Ace, all 4 sub forums poofed |
| 05:08.55 | Kaelten | all 4? what where the other two? |
| 05:09.06 | Cairenn | 2 KC and 2 Ace :p |
| 05:09.19 | Kaelten | ah |
| 05:09.21 | Kaelten | kk |
| 05:09.23 | Kaelten | thanks much |
| 05:12.56 | Osagasu | nini |
| 05:13.07 | Cairenn | night os... already gone |
| 05:38.37 | Crispix | Anyone awake? |
| 05:38.43 | Cairenn | nope |
| 05:38.49 | Crispix | ! |
| 05:38.52 | Crispix | Cairenn.. |
| 05:38.55 | Cairenn | no one else in the entire world is awake, only you |
| 05:39.02 | Crispix | http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?862049 <-- you see anything that I can improve? |
| 05:39.18 | Cairenn | rofl, like I'm a person to ask? |
| 05:39.31 | Crispix | -_- |
| 05:39.37 | sancus | lol? |
| 05:39.39 | sancus | it's a level 28 |
| 05:39.47 | Cairenn | wrong person, believe me :p |
| 05:39.51 | Crispix | its ... MY level 28 |
| 05:39.58 | sancus | What you can improve is get 60 :P |
| 05:40.00 | Cairenn | level 1 or level 60, I"m the wrong person to ask |
| 05:40.13 | Iriel | I'm also here, and have no idea |
| 05:42.35 | Cairenn | too many variables, depends on your play style, and what you have a reasonable chance of getting your hands on, etc etc etc |
| 05:44.21 | sancus | no seriously "get 60" is what you want to do |
| 05:44.35 | Cairenn | well, that much is a given :p |
| 05:44.38 | sancus | theres really no point in worrying about gear pre-60 |
| 05:44.51 | sancus | because if you're going at any reasonable pace you level up too fast for it to much matter |
| 05:44.57 | Wobin_ | feh. |
| 05:44.59 | Wobin_ | +ag |
| 05:45.01 | sancus | unless you can buy junk on the AH with a 60 |
| 05:45.04 | Wobin_ | go for more +ag |
| 05:45.16 | Wobin_ | Although you're BM spec... |
| 06:02.39 | Cairenn | tempting though, isn't it? bloody queues |
| 06:02.48 | MentalPower | indeed |
| 06:02.56 | sancus | psht |
| 06:03.09 | MentalPower | I hope it gets better once the other servers come online |
| 06:03.11 | sancus | an autoit script that loops a few key presses is hardly an "anti-afk tool" |
| 06:03.27 | Cairenn | MentalPower: as are we all |
| 06:04.35 | Iriel | sancus : Perhaps not, but you'd get banned for using all the same. |
| 06:04.59 | MentalPower | banned for using it on the test server? |
| 06:05.04 | Iriel | MentalPower : While that'd be nice, it'd suck for those of us who're stuck in the queue waiting for your slot, while you'er not there |
| 06:05.05 | Iriel | I'd hope so. |
| 06:05.20 | Iriel | Anti-AFK is many times more antisocial on a server with queues than one without. |
| 06:05.25 | sancus | no I wouldn't |
| 06:05.30 | sancus | there's no gms on the test server |
| 06:05.31 | MentalPower | I guess you're right |
| 06:05.38 | Iriel | Either way |
| 06:05.45 | sancus | and autoit isn't detected by WoW |
| 06:05.48 | Iriel | I'd hope anyone who uses anti AFk on test gets suspended or banned |
| 06:05.51 | Iriel | period. |
| 06:05.55 | sancus | not that I care enough to bother |
| 06:06.48 | MentalPower | on another note, I'm currently swimming upwards to try to get my body back after a zoning accident |
| 06:07.06 | Iriel | that sounds fun |
| 06:07.11 | MentalPower | indeed |
| 06:07.32 | MentalPower | RepopMe() should port you back to the graveyard |
| 06:08.20 | MentalPower | and the Un-Stuck command doesn't work either |
| 06:09.27 | MentalPower | anyways I guess I'll keep swimming for the next half hour or so |
| 06:09.31 | MentalPower | goodnight guys |
| 06:09.47 | Cairenn | night MentalPower |
| 06:13.08 | Qzot|Lunch | G'night. |
| 06:15.23 | Qzot | Grr. My code is overdue for a rewrite. |
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| 06:23.02 | Shouryuu | rawr |
| 06:23.08 | Cairenn | *purr* |
| 06:23.13 | Crispix | RWARRRRRRRRR!! |
| 06:23.22 | Shouryuu | *gasp* |
| 06:23.29 | Crispix | *cough cough* rwoar? |
| 06:23.32 | Shouryuu | :P |
| 06:24.43 | Qzot | ?? |
| 06:25.33 | Shouryuu | dang |
| 06:25.40 | Shouryuu | I cant post on the forums anymore... |
| 06:25.40 | Wobin_ | wuff? |
| 06:25.48 | Shouryuu | my accounts expired =( |
| 06:26.20 | Wobin_ | =( |
| 06:26.28 | Cairenn | uh oh, I know what that means |
| 06:26.43 | Qzot | If you can't post on the forums, you should leave in-game mail for the GMs. |
| 06:26.44 | Shouryuu | you, 1.10, alone :P |
| 06:27.07 | Cairenn | more like, you, my boards, aw crap |
| 06:27.34 | Cairenn | :p |
| 06:27.40 | Shouryuu | haha |
| 06:27.51 | Shouryuu | meanie |
| 06:27.55 | Iriel | That's mean -- funny, but mean |
| 06:28.03 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 06:28.24 | Cairenn | I mean, woot, now you'll spend more time on my forums, yayayay |
| 06:28.44 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 06:28.52 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 06:28.54 | Cairenn | *hug* |
| 06:28.56 | Shouryuu | well time for school here =( |
| 06:29.01 | Shouryuu | awwww, gee, ahug :p |
| 06:29.07 | Shouryuu | rawr out |
| 06:29.11 | Cairenn | later Shouryuu |
| 06:29.56 | Qzot | Hmm. It's 10:30pm here. I wonder what time zone has school now...? |
| 06:30.58 | Cairenn | Shouryuu|School is currently in ... Singapore, iirc? |
| 06:30.59 | Iriel | Think Paris. |
| 06:31.15 | Cairenn | from Paris, yeah, but think he's in Singapore atm |
| 06:31.37 | Wobin_ | it's... around 2:30pm in Beijing |
| 06:31.43 | Wobin_ | so the same in Singapore |
| 06:31.51 | Qzot | Yup. |
| 06:31.54 | Cairenn | *shrug* |
| 06:32.17 | Crispix | LMAO.... |
| 06:32.20 | Crispix | LMAO..... |
| 06:32.24 | Crispix | http://simplythebest.net/sounds/WAV/events_WAV/event_WAV_files/answer.wav |
| 06:33.21 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 06:43.36 | Cairenn | night folks |
| 06:43.50 | Iriel | night |
| 06:46.55 | SP|Sorren | Crispix: lol |
| 06:47.00 | SP|Sorren | where'd you find that? |
| 06:50.24 | Qzot | G'night, Cairenn. |
| 06:58.46 | Qzot | All right. *grump* My code is too messy to clean up tonight, so off to bed with me... |
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| 07:15.38 | Codayus | Heh. Funny sig seen on the WoW forums: "Just say not to new servers! Save the hampsters!" |
| 07:15.52 | Codayus | er... s/not/no/ |
| 07:16.35 | Crispix | uber long url... but funny as hell: http://www.ilovewavs.com/comedy/AnsMach/AnsMach%20-%20Operator,%20that%20number%20has%20been%20changed.wav |
| 07:18.12 | namxo | bof |
| 07:20.35 | Wobin_ | www.tinyurl.com =) |
| 07:22.28 | Crispix | o |
| 07:22.48 | Crispix | o_O has anyone watched Surviorman on discovery channel? |
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| 07:37.15 | namxo | no |
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| 08:32.57 | id` | mornin |
| 08:35.39 | namxo | morning |
| 08:37.20 | Wobin_ | mornin |
| 08:47.10 | namxo | anyone use pcall ? |
| 08:47.32 | Wobin_ | Isn't that the catch function? |
| 08:47.59 | namxo | yep it's that |
| 08:48.16 | Wobin_ | I've not actually used it in any code. |
| 08:48.25 | namxo | i think make a nice dialog when my addon crash will be good, for user |
| 08:48.43 | Wobin_ | You're expecting that to happen? =) |
| 08:48.55 | namxo | you can know all case :) |
| 08:48.58 | namxo | can't |
| 08:49.00 | Wobin_ | Are you going to drop the whole code in it? |
| 08:49.12 | namxo | no, each function |
| 08:49.15 | Wobin_ | or how are you determining what stuff to put in the pcall |
| 08:49.18 | namxo | then show a mesasge like that : |
| 08:49.37 | namxo | "EasyPriest, bug at line x because blabla", please press continue |
| 08:49.38 | namxo | :p |
| 08:50.32 | Wobin_ | "Please send the details to namxo@buggyaddonz.com" |
| 08:50.43 | namxo | my addon aren't buggy |
| 08:50.44 | namxo | ;) |
| 08:52.20 | krka|work | i am using it together with RunMacro |
| 08:52.27 | krka|work | or was it RunScript? |
| 08:53.12 | namxo | ? |
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| 09:27.03 | Wobin_ | best song ever =P |
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| 10:18.13 | Codayus | hmm |
| 10:18.38 | Codayus | lets see... 5am EST, 8am PST. If the test server is empty now it'll never be... |
| 10:18.49 | Codayus | woot! No queue! |
| 10:18.54 | namxo | :) |
| 10:21.42 | Codayus | Hrm |
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| 10:22.15 | Codayus | Whenever I hit a movement key: "A macro script has been blocked from an action only available to the Blizzard UI." But...I don't have any macros. oO |
| 10:22.44 | [MoonWolf] | do you have anything like autobuff running ? |
| 10:23.35 | Codayus | Hmm. Obviously so. *mutter* |
| 10:24.26 | Codayus | Not autobuff though... |
| 10:25.13 | [MoonWolf] | anything else that performs cast like things on movement ? |
| 10:25.37 | [MoonWolf] | alway's trac comes to mind |
| 10:25.40 | [MoonWolf] | stuff like that. |
| 10:26.19 | Codayus | Heh, one sec. Deciced to run to an inn to camp, but I got so distracted admiring the rain, I got lost. |
| 10:26.29 | Codayus | Brill, it seems, was in the OTHER direction. Nice rain though! |
| 10:26.51 | Codayus | wait, wtf? Where IS brill? Damn undead... |
| 10:27.02 | namxo | ? |
| 10:27.13 | Shadowd | in the middle of the map |
| 10:27.40 | Codayus | yay! I found brill. After that, everything else will be easy... |
| 10:28.01 | [MoonWolf] | is the weather really that good ? |
| 10:28.25 | [MoonWolf] | I can find brill on minimap only. |
| 10:28.57 | Codayus | That good? Hrm, dunno. I just really like weather. :-) |
| 10:29.43 | Codayus | And...hmm. No obvious mods are hooking movement. |
| 10:30.04 | [MoonWolf] | weird |
| 10:30.22 | Codayus | Time to start disabling stuff... |
| 10:31.16 | Codayus | Hmm. A discord mod was doing it. |
| 10:31.21 | krka|work | hmm... so it's illegal to do casting from movement keys now? |
| 10:32.32 | Codayus | looks like...duf dart or dab. |
| 10:32.43 | Shadowd | Well not illegal, they just blocked the ability from hooking movement functions apparently |
| 10:32.45 | Codayus | And...it's dab. Odd. Why would an action bar mod be hooking movement keys? |
| 10:33.37 | Shadowd | I think you can no longer hook whatever it was the function thats called when you left or right click a mouse, that could be why. |
| 10:33.54 | Codayus | Um. Yeah, probably. |
| 10:34.32 | krka|work | how did they block hooking? |
| 10:35.47 | Codayus | Just doesn't work. Details unclear to me just at the moment. |
| 10:36.59 | krka|work | they are probably comparing the address of "MoveForwardStart" with the one they defined it as |
| 10:37.26 | namxo | :) |
| 10:37.38 | krka|work | might be hackable though... |
| 10:37.53 | krka|work | anyone with access to test server willing to try some hook-hack? |
| 10:38.32 | namxo | ? |
| 10:38.45 | Codayus | Sure |
| 10:38.47 | namxo | it's stupid to try hook-hack |
| 10:39.22 | Codayus | Oops, I seem to have crashed the test client |
| 10:39.44 | krka|work | http://wow.pastebin.com/586706 |
| 10:40.14 | krka|work | there, that will check if blizzards hooking check is being done at the function in question |
| 10:40.18 | krka|work | if so, this will bypass it |
| 10:41.33 | Shadowd | sec trying to fit it onto one line |
| 10:41.42 | Codayus | Hmmm. |
| 10:42.09 | id` | dunno how hooking should work without ace but |
| 10:42.13 | id` | http://wow.pastebin.com/586707 |
| 10:42.15 | id` | why not like that |
| 10:42.16 | id` | :p |
| 10:42.16 | Codayus | I'd try, but test client apparently took a dislike to me standing in the undercity, and has crashed/frozen/spaltted. |
| 10:42.36 | Shadowd | krka|work: no luck |
| 10:42.46 | krka|work | interesting! |
| 10:42.55 | id` | yea |
| 10:42.55 | id` | :D |
| 10:42.56 | Shadowd | A macro script has been blocked from an action available to only the default UI |
| 10:43.05 | krka|work | must be checking for certain assignments at lua compile time |
| 10:43.07 | krka|work | or at runtime |
| 10:43.08 | krka|work | hmm |
| 10:43.43 | krka|work | id: your version doesn't set the hook back before calling |
| 10:43.46 | Codayus | zomg, stupid client. |
| 10:44.04 | namxo | krka|work it's work your hack ? |
| 10:44.19 | krka|work | please rephrase that in the form of a sentence |
| 10:48.03 | Codayus | Hmm, I seem to have crashed the client again. |
| 10:48.16 | namxo | good so |
| 10:48.16 | namxo | :) |
| 10:48.29 | namxo | no hack :) |
| 10:48.54 | Shadowd | What are you doing Codayus? |
| 10:49.21 | Codayus | Stand near the elevators in the undercity. oO |
| 10:49.43 | namxo | ? |
| 10:49.48 | namxo | for doing what ? |
| 10:50.01 | Codayus | Well, I was fiddling with tinypad. |
| 10:50.53 | krka|work | ewww, i don't want to know! |
| 10:50.58 | krka|work | keep your tiny pad to yourself |
| 10:51.21 | Shadowd | weird, I wonder why blizzard choose eskhandar's neck/cloak for Rogue's |
| 10:51.56 | Shadowd | So apparently Rogue's also got a Flask of Supreme power, weird o.O |
| 10:52.17 | Codayus | May be a reagent used for armor quest |
| 10:52.32 | Codayus | And yeah, interesting starting gear. I've got a 60 rogue, but, heh, no epics. :-/ |
| 10:52.46 | krka|work | YAY! If you're making several jumps to get to your destination, you will now be able to choose that flight path from your initial Flight Master. The costs will remain the same, but you no longer need to manually click on each path. The UI has also been improved significantly. |
| 10:53.02 | namxo | yep:) |
| 10:53.05 | Shadowd | *cry* at only having 3,000 health |
| 10:54.17 | Codayus | wtf, horde don't get given any flight locations. oO |
| 10:54.44 | namxo | ? |
| 10:54.57 | krka|work | oh right, _calling_ movement functions is disabled from addons / macros |
| 10:55.21 | krka|work | so... probably only legal from Bindings.xml |
| 10:55.21 | namxo | since the patch 1.9 |
| 10:56.00 | krka|work | yay! sepulcher - tm flightpath |
| 10:56.06 | krka|work | not that i need that anymore, but still, it's good |
| 10:56.44 | krka|work | can someone ask if the flightpath changes will mean that UC - Hammerfall will fly passed TM instead, saving a minute |
| 11:00.18 | Codayus | Hmm, seing priests with BWL +dmg trinkets just seems...wrong... oO |
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| 11:10.04 | Codayus | Hmmm. |
| 11:12.14 | Shadowd | This Rogue equipment makes me sad |
| 11:13.55 | Elkano | which one? |
| 11:15.30 | Shadowd | The test server one |
| 11:16.42 | Codayus | why? |
| 11:17.00 | Shadowd | 3,600 health :p |
| 11:17.18 | Elkano | what equip did he get? T0 + ? |
| 11:18.02 | Codayus | Full tier 0, plus Don Julions, Quickstrike, Drake Fang Talisman, Eskanders cloak/neck, Lobotomizer, Felstriker, Mandokirs sting...oh, and blackhands breadth |
| 11:18.02 | Shadowd | T0 + Drakefang + lobo/felstriker + eskhander cloak/neck |
| 11:18.33 | Elkano | *cry* |
| 11:18.46 | Codayus | Priests got some amazing DPS gear. ToEP and other goodies. |
| 11:20.01 | Elkano | hmmm, I wonder if it would be possible to have Blizzard give out some beta accounts for the addon to addon coders, too... |
| 11:20.19 | Codayus | ToEP, Neltharion's Tear, Dragonslayer Signet, Ring of Entropy, Cloak of the Broodlord, Choker of the Fire Lord, Touch of Chaos, and Benediction. oO |
| 11:20.35 | Codayus | That would be the smart thing to do. |
| 11:20.41 | Codayus | It'll never happen. :-P |
| 11:21.47 | Shadowd | I'm kind of suprised that rogue's didn't get something like GGR or CHT |
| 11:22.00 | Codayus | Hunters got a CHT. :-) |
| 11:23.13 | Codayus | And shamans, mages, druids got a Staff of the Shadow Flame -. |
| 11:23.57 | Codayus | I'd have expected a perditions, frankly. |
| 11:24.16 | Codayus | Anyhow, anyone want to give me a hint on how to get from org to silithus without a single flight point? :-( |
| 11:24.29 | Codayus | Guess I better start running towards gadget. *cry* |
| 11:25.30 | Elkano | they almost allways forget the flight paths :/ |
| 11:25.46 | Codayus | alliance got full flightpaths |
| 11:25.48 | Codayus | horde got none |
| 11:27.21 | Codayus | Have they been giving out premade 60 on the EU test server before now or something? |
| 11:29.47 | Shadowd | The insta PVP queues are fun though |
| 11:30.27 | Legorol^ | Codayus: they always have |
| 11:33.47 | Codayus | hmm, interesting |
| 11:34.00 | [MoonWolf] | they always did |
| 11:34.08 | [MoonWolf] | thats why our test server is alwasy queued up |
| 11:43.58 | Codayus | Okay, now http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v217/Hippaulz/Titanic.jpg is worth getting excited about. |
| 11:44.11 | Codayus | Steep mat cost, but...dude, wicked fury warrior legs. |
| 11:44.46 | Shadowd | wow |
| 11:46.47 | Codayus | Pity my main is a priest. There's sod all crafted epics for us. Really just Truefaith - and it's not that amazing. And it's BoP. Warriors get lionheart, stronghold, and now this... :-/ |
| 11:47.33 | Codayus | oopsie, ungoro crater is steeper than it looks. |
| 11:48.51 | Shadowd | 20% of Shadow spell damage caused by casting priest heals the priest's group |
| 11:48.54 | Shadowd | Does that make any sense? |
| 11:49.24 | Codayus | yes? |
| 11:49.38 | Shadowd | Must be the lack of sleep then |
| 11:49.51 | Codayus | Hmm. |
| 11:49.56 | Codayus | well, it's poorly worded. |
| 11:50.01 | Codayus | I believe what it means is: |
| 11:50.40 | Codayus | 20% of the shadow damage from spells cast by the same priest that cast Vampiric Embrace will heal that priests group. |
| 11:50.57 | Codayus | In other words, priest A casts vampiric embrace, and priest B mindblasts = no healing. |
| 11:54.39 | Legorol^ | hey guys, g'morning |
| 11:54.54 | Legorol^ | i see that 1.10 is out, lots of discussion on UI forums |
| 11:55.02 | Legorol^ | i haven't had a chance to try yet, but some interesting things seem to be in the air |
| 11:55.12 | Shadowd | It's out and the test server isn't queued! |
| 11:55.22 | Legorol^ | Shadowd: US or UE? :p |
| 11:55.24 | Legorol^ | *EU |
| 11:55.26 | Shadowd | US |
| 11:55.28 | Legorol^ | EU is almost always queued |
| 11:55.43 | Legorol^ | i hear that Blizz can now block AddOns from executing certain API calls? |
| 11:55.50 | Codayus | US has had 5k queues more or less constantly |
| 11:55.57 | Codayus | But it's got no queue right this moment |
| 11:56.01 | Legorol^ | can anyone elaborate on this |
| 11:56.07 | Legorol^ | Codayus: I'm EU :( |
| 11:56.17 | Legorol^ | besides i don't have WoW access atm :( :( :( |
| 11:57.04 | Shadowd | They blocked movement functions apparently |
| 11:57.11 | Codayus | Basically, if the mod tries to hook a bad thing, it pops up an error message and asks if you'd like to disable the mod... |
| 11:59.07 | krka|work | i still don't know how they did it |
| 11:59.30 | krka|work | btw, isn't it just calling the functions that has been disabled? |
| 11:59.38 | krka|work | disabled hooking is just a consequence of that |
| 12:01.57 | Legorol^ | so what? our nightmare has come true? |
| 12:02.06 | Legorol^ | Blizz UI and AddOn UI has different level access to the API? |
| 12:02.20 | Legorol^ | this was one of the possibilities we did discuss, if i remember correctly |
| 12:02.46 | Legorol^ | this is now very very intriguing to me.. |
| 12:02.55 | Legorol^ | how can they possibly detect hooking by an AddOn? |
| 12:03.43 | Legorol^ | besides, i can think of ways of getting around that, i wonder if they work.. |
| 12:04.06 | Legorol^ | for example: hook a non-movement Blizz UI Lua function, (e.g. ChatFrame_OnEvent), then do the movement hooking from there |
| 12:04.29 | Legorol^ | since ChatFrame_OnEvent would be executed in Blizz UI context, would it have elevated privileges? |
| 12:04.46 | Legorol^ | wow, now that i think about it, we have a whole new field opening up.. |
| 12:05.02 | Legorol^ | the whole idea of security contexts, privilege elevation exploits etc. can now start to be applied here :D |
| 12:05.34 | krka|work | the functions themselves probably check from which context it was called |
| 12:05.39 | krka|work | kinda like the hardware event tokens |
| 12:06.08 | Legorol^ | if that's how it works, then my work around has a chance of working.. |
| 12:06.10 | krka|work | or... they check at compile time |
| 12:06.15 | Legorol^ | the hardware event tokens are one thing.. |
| 12:06.26 | krka|work | stuff in blizzard code base get compiled to one set, stuff in user space gets compiled to other |
| 12:06.29 | Legorol^ | but if they are checking for execution context, and are trying to see if it's Blizz one, then what? |
| 12:06.44 | Legorol^ | Lua is way too convoluted.. |
| 12:06.49 | krka|work | huh? |
| 12:07.02 | Legorol^ | yeah they could have a memory based filter i guess |
| 12:07.09 | Legorol^ | what i meant is, |
| 12:07.24 | Legorol^ | with functions being first class variables, it must be very difficult to deal with this |
| 12:07.39 | krka|work | memory based filter? no, i just meant they check at compile time |
| 12:07.55 | Legorol^ | compile time checks are not enough for this sort of thing.. |
| 12:08.00 | Legorol^ | what would you be checking at compile time? |
| 12:08.05 | Legorol^ | you can later hook a global function |
| 12:08.14 | krka|work | hm, true |
| 12:08.22 | Legorol^ | you have to have run-time checks |
| 12:08.41 | Legorol^ | by memory based filter, i meant |
| 12:08.49 | Legorol^ | if Blizz code resides in different place than addon code, |
| 12:08.54 | Legorol^ | which it probably does, |
| 12:09.06 | Legorol^ | then you'd say: if i was called from Blizz code memory, i will do it, otherwise i won't |
| 12:09.19 | Legorol^ | i don't think it's easy to check based on "context" |
| 12:09.28 | Legorol^ | because of the possibility of hooking |
| 12:09.38 | Legorol^ | as i said earlier, i could hook ChatFrame_OnEvent |
| 12:09.43 | Legorol^ | wait for Blizz UI to execute it.. |
| 12:09.47 | Legorol^ | and now i'm running in Blizz UI context |
| 12:10.27 | Legorol^ | so the only possibility i can see is if they have a check based on what memory segment the call is coming from, is it from Blizz code or AddOn code? |
| 12:10.44 | krka|work | or, only allow movement calls from Bindings.xml |
| 12:10.53 | krka|work | no wait, that won't work |
| 12:10.55 | krka|work | i'm being stupid |
| 12:11.02 | Legorol^ | it could work |
| 12:11.12 | Legorol^ | it just means AddOns can't define extra bindings that allow movement |
| 12:11.24 | Legorol^ | you could restrict movement to code defined in Bindings.xml of the Blizz UI |
| 12:11.25 | krka|work | yeah |
| 12:11.33 | Legorol^ | that'd be very inflexible though |
| 12:11.45 | Legorol^ | and you can't hook handlers in Bindings.xml |
| 12:11.53 | Legorol^ | (speaking of which, i should've asked for this back at the time :D) |
| 12:12.15 | krka|work | don't see why blizzard would need to block movement |
| 12:12.18 | Legorol^ | we can hook XML handlers, but not bindings |
| 12:12.32 | krka|work | could make moving require the same token as casts |
| 12:12.36 | Legorol^ | since i haven't tried test yet i can't know, but my guess is they want to stop the movement+casting effect |
| 12:12.48 | Legorol^ | yes they could |
| 12:12.58 | Legorol^ | i agree with you that there doesn't seem to be much point.. |
| 12:13.10 | Legorol^ | it does sound like as if they are trying to stop hooking of movement in the first place |
| 12:13.14 | Legorol^ | why, is a mystery.. |
| 12:13.29 | Legorol^ | could be something to do with the underlying C code, and how the hardware token system works |
| 12:14.01 | Legorol^ | you know, there is one thing i haven't understood, even before 1.10.. |
| 12:14.14 | Legorol^ | why did those macros with the instant spells+spellstopcasting work in the first place? |
| 12:14.30 | Legorol^ | i know that the "popular" answer is that it gets around the global cooldown, but we know that that's bullshit |
| 12:14.48 | Legorol^ | what i was always surprised by is why didn't the first (instant) spell consume the hardware token |
| 12:15.04 | Legorol^ | and only the last spell in the macro did |
| 12:15.24 | Legorol^ | What i'm referring to is the fact that even before 1.10, you couldn't just call CastSpellByName, wait, CastSpellByName |
| 12:15.33 | Legorol^ | the first call would consume the token |
| 12:16.10 | Legorol^ | so i don't understand why those macros worked, the only explanation i can think of is that some of the instant cast spells didn't consume the token for some reason.. |
| 12:19.13 | krka|work | we don't have that? |
| 12:19.34 | krka|work | oh well, this change is actually good i think |
| 12:19.46 | krka|work | i wont miss moving and casting at the same time |
| 12:22.54 | Legorol^ | i will... auto-rebuff is neat |
| 12:23.09 | Legorol^ | i always forget recasting buffs |
| 12:25.12 | krka|work | easily solved by just giving visual or audio feedback |
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| 12:39.20 | Osagasu | Finally someone made a profiling addon that is actually useful in game |
| 12:40.11 | Osagasu | oh nevermind, I'm just too tired to read. carry on |
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| 12:45.12 | Kremonte | ./script Jump() /camp works as a macro, you jump and freeze midair o_O kinda like old snowman |
| 12:45.39 | Wobin_ | I've always done the flypaper effect with instance entrances |
| 12:45.52 | Kremonte | flypaper? |
| 12:46.06 | Wobin_ | Jump before entering, you look like you get stuck on the wall =P |
| 12:46.15 | Kremonte | lol yeah, but you can actually stand |
| 12:46.18 | Kremonte | like |
| 12:46.22 | Kremonte | run at a ledge |
| 12:46.23 | Kremonte | hit the macro |
| 12:46.35 | Kremonte | you stay midair like 5m off it |
| 12:46.40 | Wobin_ | Doesn't camp log you out though? |
| 12:46.47 | Kremonte | you have 20 secs =D |
| 12:46.52 | Wobin_ | (I guess if you're outisde =) |
| 12:46.52 | Osagasu | not if you cancel. :P |
| 12:47.00 | Wobin_ | interesting =) |
| 12:47.18 | Kremonte | if you have some nice timing you can spam it |
| 12:48.29 | Kremonte | LOL |
| 12:48.34 | Kremonte | i am logging out while moving |
| 12:58.23 | Kremonte | omfg |
| 12:58.26 | Kremonte | you can wallwalk with this |
| 12:58.54 | Kremonte | rather, skywalk |
| 12:59.27 | Osagasu | only until 1.10 |
| 12:59.28 | krka|work | can anyone test if we can access RunBinding to move? |
| 12:59.41 | namxo | i want CastSpellByName(spellname, onself) :( |
| 12:59.45 | Osagasu | If I'm not too tired again |
| 13:00.16 | Kremonte | Osagasu: eh? |
| 13:00.20 | [MoonWolf] | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.23 | Kremonte | why wouldn't this work in 1.10 |
| 13:00.50 | Osagasu | I'm probably just too tired again |
| 13:03.03 | krka|work | just target yourself namxo |
| 13:03.43 | namxo | it's a new function |
| 13:03.49 | namxo | a very good function to make a nice bestspell |
| 13:03.55 | namxo | but the new function don't work |
| 13:03.55 | namxo | :( |
| 13:04.43 | krka|work | just target yourself, cast spell, target previous target |
| 13:05.36 | namxo | IT'S A NEW FUNCTION |
| 13:05.39 | namxo | you read me ? |
| 13:06.02 | Kremonte | /script MoveForwardStart() ToggleGameMenu() |
| 13:06.02 | Kremonte | /script if(GameMenuFrame:IsVisible()) then GameMenuFrame:Hide() end Jump() |
| 13:06.02 | Kremonte | /camp |
| 13:06.04 | Kremonte | pwnage |
| 13:06.11 | Kremonte | can someone confirm that for me |
| 13:06.40 | Kremonte | chagnge that GameMenuFrame:Hide() to ToggleGameMenu() |
| 13:06.42 | Kremonte | otherwise it b0rks it |
| 13:06.50 | krka|work | a new function, but it seems we can only do that |
| 13:06.54 | krka|work | err... |
| 13:06.57 | krka|work | s/only/already/ |
| 13:07.58 | Osagasu | Kremonte: I just tested it |
| 13:08.04 | Kremonte | et? |
| 13:08.07 | Kremonte | eh? |
| 13:08.07 | Osagasu | You don't jump, you just sit down and log. |
| 13:08.13 | Kremonte | works for me, hm |
| 13:08.21 | Kremonte | try running and hitting it |
| 13:08.22 | Osagasu | I'm on the test |
| 13:08.34 | Kremonte | i dont get why test would change it ._. |
| 13:08.37 | Kremonte | is there any q atm? |
| 13:08.48 | Osagasu | no |
| 13:08.59 | Kremonte | kk |
| 13:09.18 | Osagasu | Jump() is only acessible from blizzard addons and functions |
| 13:10.13 | Kremonte | wft! |
| 13:10.16 | Kremonte | why ._. |
| 13:10.44 | Kremonte | that's wierd =( |
| 13:10.52 | krka|work | so you cant jump-evade arrows and spells automatically of course |
| 13:11.03 | krka|work | spelling weird wierd is weird! |
| 13:11.04 | Kremonte | eh? how does jump do that ._> |
| 13:11.55 | Kremonte | theres no jump log delay anymore either T_T |
| 13:12.06 | Kremonte | but wait, couldn't i put that in a blizzard addon? =P |
| 13:12.30 | krka|work | j/k |
| 13:14.43 | Kremonte | i'm sad |
| 13:14.50 | Kremonte | i just found a 1337 sploit and it doesnt work |
| 13:15.23 | [MoonWolf] | so you did not actually find a sloit |
| 13:15.31 | Kremonte | it's a 1.9sploit! |
| 13:15.42 | Kremonte | i wonder if they fixed the release at 1sec left on /camp in instances |
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| 13:45.46 | Kremonte | 1.10 makes me sad :( no more sploitz |
| 13:46.52 | Beladona | the damn test copy page is down |
| 13:47.02 | Beladona | anyone have a link to the test patch? |
| 13:50.11 | Kremonte | crashed ;( |
| 13:50.16 | Kremonte | damn test client |
| 13:51.51 | Beladona | well it is the first one |
| 13:52.29 | Kremonte | meh, they fixed too much |
| 13:52.40 | Kremonte | no more skywalking cause you can't use jump() in macros |
| 13:53.23 | Kremonte | no more link or localdefense spoofing |
| 13:53.34 | Kremonte | no more evading afk |
| 13:53.39 | Kremonte | ./sulk |
| 13:55.16 | krka|work | sounds good to me |
| 13:55.27 | Kremonte | i will find more sploitz! |
| 13:55.30 | Kremonte | you just watch me! |
| 13:55.33 | Kremonte | wait, don't watch me |
| 13:56.21 | Legorol^ | Kremonte: there *were* working anti-afk methods? |
| 13:56.22 | Legorol^ | whoa |
| 13:56.28 | Legorol^ | i thought those were urban legends |
| 13:56.47 | Kremonte | ^_^ |
| 13:57.02 | Beladona | cool, fileplanet has it |
| 13:57.12 | Beladona | too bad I missed the copy cutoff though |
| 13:57.25 | Beladona | oh well, they will probably do a test update tomorrow |
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| 14:31.05 | zeeg | Can everyone here do me a favor |
| 14:31.25 | zeeg | if you have a UI mod on wowguru, go in to your edit versions tab, and update (at least the latest version) it with compatible/translation info |
| 14:32.20 | namxo | ? :) |
| 14:33.28 | zeeg | namxo |
| 14:33.37 | zeeg | http://fr.wowguru.com/patches/patch-1-10-0/spells.html |
| 14:40.42 | krka|work | done! |
| 14:42.21 | zeeg | thanks :) |
| 14:43.08 | krka|work | it was no problem, since i don't have any mods on wowguru :) |
| 14:43.30 | zeeg | >< |
| 15:28.41 | namxo | someone can up the post about CastSpellByName on the us forum ? |
| 15:29.00 | namxo | zeeg maybe ? |
| 15:30.52 | zeeg | im banned |
| 15:30.52 | zeeg | :P |
| 15:31.01 | namxo | lol |
| 15:31.06 | namxo | silly :) |
| 15:31.07 | zeeg | for posting released unreleased content |
| 15:31.08 | zeeg | :) |
| 15:31.09 | namxo | :D |
| 15:31.16 | namxo | oh really ? |
| 15:31.17 | zeeg | not my fault gm's use the items |
| 15:31.20 | zeeg | >< |
| 15:31.24 | namxo | about what exactly ? |
| 15:31.34 | zeeg | foror's fabled steed was the final blow |
| 15:31.35 | zeeg | :P |
| 15:31.51 | namxo | sorry i don't understand |
| 15:31.54 | zeeg | basically |
| 15:31.58 | zeeg | an item was seen on test server |
| 15:32.02 | zeeg | and my site auto collects this stuff |
| 15:32.08 | zeeg | and i linked it in the forums and got banned for it |
| 15:32.19 | zeeg | saying it was "unreleased" (although its imposible for me to get the data of unreleased items now) |
| 15:32.36 | namxo | lol ok:) |
| 15:32.39 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/db/items/forors-fabled-steed-id20221/ |
| 15:32.40 | zeeg | that specifically |
| 15:32.41 | namxo | silly gm :) |
| 15:33.10 | namxo | who have ban you ? slouken ? :p |
| 15:33.12 | zeeg | mmhmm |
| 15:33.13 | zeeg | nah |
| 15:33.16 | zeeg | im not sure who it was |
| 15:33.19 | namxo | ok |
| 15:33.23 | zeeg | i dont think it was slouken or caydiem |
| 15:33.30 | zeeg | but they started enforcing the rule very strict because of stuff I had done |
| 15:33.44 | zeeg | i swear, half the posts (outside the UI forum) that even linked to wowguru got smacked |
| 15:33.48 | namxo | ok |
| 15:34.07 | namxo | why i'm alone about CastSpellByName ? |
| 15:34.14 | namxo | it's an interesting modification |
| 15:34.18 | zeeg | :( |
| 15:34.18 | zeeg | idk |
| 15:34.29 | namxo | look EasyPriest on curse-gaming, specially the EP_BestSpell addon |
| 15:34.43 | namxo | find the way i use, it's not very clean :( |
| 15:34.53 | namxo | with CastSpellByName(name, onself) it will be very clean |
| 15:35.03 | namxo | (specially the way about spell cast onself) |
| 15:35.23 | namxo | i must use TargetUnit("player") then TargetLastTarget, etc |
| 15:35.28 | namxo | if the previous unit isn't player |
| 15:35.36 | namxo | with "onself" arg, is very easy, very clean |
| 15:38.20 | zeeg | ya |
| 15:39.34 | krka|work | what's wrong with TargetUnit("player") CastSpellByName(spellName) TargetLastUnit() ? |
| 15:39.46 | namxo | we've a clean way |
| 15:39.51 | namxo | but it's broke |
| 15:40.00 | namxo | nobody's tell that to slouken :( |
| 15:40.00 | Qzot|awaitingcof | What's the clean way? |
| 15:40.13 | namxo | CastSpellByName(spellName, onself) |
| 15:40.16 | Qzot|awaitingcof | krka: Doesn't work if your current target is another player. |
| 15:40.16 | krka|work | don't see how the other way is unclean |
| 15:40.20 | namxo | the function take now an optional argument onself |
| 15:40.28 | krka|work | are you sure about that? |
| 15:40.56 | Corrodias | onself or "onself"? |
| 15:40.56 | namxo | onself |
| 15:40.56 | namxo | so 1 or 0 |
| 15:40.56 | namxo | or nothing |
| 15:40.56 | krka|work | not 1 or nil? |
| 15:40.56 | namxo | it's on the iriel post about 1.10 |
| 15:40.56 | namxo | Slouken have say that |
| 15:40.58 | namxo | in fact it's : |
| 15:41.05 | Corrodias | oh, onself is boolean |
| 15:41.06 | namxo | CastSpellByName(spellName [, onSelf]) |
| 15:41.23 | Corrodias | therefore, true is anything that isn't nil or false. |
| 15:41.34 | Corrodias | 0 is true |
| 15:41.51 | Corrodias | except... WoW may not take it as such |
| 15:41.51 | Qzot|awaitingcof | Is this supposed to be in 1.10?? Ooooo. |
| 15:42.21 | Corrodias | if it were a purely LUA check, then 0 would be true, but if it's being passed along to the WoW engine, i guess it could be false |
| 15:42.21 | namxo | like UseAction(etc...) |
| 15:42.33 | namxo | with UseAction onSelf can be 1 or 0 or nothing |
| 15:42.57 | namxo | UseAction(slotid, dontrememberthename [, onSelf]) |
| 15:43.02 | zeeg | 0 shouldnt be true |
| 15:43.03 | Qzot|awaitingcof | I guess it would have been too much to get CastSpellByName(spellName, unit), huh? |
| 15:43.04 | namxo | onSelf can be 1 or 0 look the wowwiki |
| 15:43.05 | namxo | :) |
| 15:43.09 | zeeg | 0 counts as false is most interpreted languages |
| 15:43.15 | zeeg | *in |
| 15:43.17 | namxo | it's not that Qzot|awaitingcof it's onSelf |
| 15:43.18 | Corrodias | perhaps, but not in LUA |
| 15:43.22 | namxo | yep zeeg :) |
| 15:43.26 | zeeg | well LUA is silly then |
| 15:43.27 | namxo | Codayus in lua true |
| 15:43.35 | Qzot|awaitingcof | Exactly. I would have preferred unit. Much more powerful. |
| 15:43.43 | Corrodias | still, if it's being passed to the WoW engine, it will probably take it as false. |
| 15:44.08 | zeeg | (!$int) vs (!($int != 0)) |
| 15:44.22 | Corrodias | what is $int? |
| 15:44.29 | zeeg | an integar |
| 15:44.37 | zeeg | idk how lua works, its been a while |
| 15:44.40 | namxo | Qzot|awaitingcof it's true, ask it to slouken :') |
| 15:44.50 | namxo | and ask it to correct the function for the 1.10 |
| 15:44.52 | zeeg | (!int) vs (!(int != 0)) i believe would be correct lua |
| 15:44.52 | zeeg | :P |
| 15:44.55 | namxo | and ask your function for the 1.11 ;) |
| 15:45.08 | Corrodias | i read in the LUA thingy that it's "nil and false" that count as false and anything else is true |
| 15:45.16 | zeeg | did he fix GetLocale() yet? |
| 15:45.28 | zeeg | for EU clients |
| 15:45.37 | zeeg | enGB showing enUS |
| 15:45.42 | zeeg | if not, post about that too |
| 15:45.58 | Corrodias | here it is, "In Lua, both nil and false make a condition false; any other value makes it true." |
| 15:46.32 | krka|work | including empty tables and 0 length strings |
| 15:46.57 | zeeg | ya a 0 length string would be translatable to nil :) |
| 15:47.36 | Qzot|hascoffee | namxo: Are you saying that the onself was supposed to be in 1.10, but appears to not work properly? |
| 15:47.39 | krka|work | no it wouldn't zeef |
| 15:47.44 | Corrodias | well, it's not explicitly "nil"... i am not certain but i think that no-length string is also true |
| 15:47.53 | krka|work | yes it is |
| 15:48.24 | namxo | yep Qzot|hascoffee |
| 15:48.35 | namxo | look the Iriel post about 1.10 |
| 15:48.51 | Qzot|hascoffee | Will do. |
| 15:49.06 | Qzot|hascoffee | I should prolly use the next 40 minutes to take another whack at my code, tho. |
| 15:49.54 | krka|work | hmm... no onself for CastSpell() ? |
| 15:50.11 | namxo | no krka|work |
| 15:50.21 | krka|work | damn... i'd much rather have that |
| 15:50.31 | krka|work | CastSpellByName is always highest rank :/( |
| 15:51.22 | krka|work | The condition expression of a control structure may return any value. Both false and nil are considered false. All values different from nil and false are considered true (in particular, the number 0 and the empty string are also true). |
| 15:51.27 | krka|work | (stolen from lua.org) |
| 15:51.41 | Cide | CastSpellByName can take a rank |
| 15:51.51 | Cide | CastSpellByName("Flash Heal(Rank 5)") |
| 15:52.06 | krka|work | hmm... true |
| 15:52.18 | krka|work | still, easier to do it from CastSpell :) |
| 15:52.26 | Cide | if you say so :) |
| 15:52.50 | krka|work | hm, then again maybe not |
| 15:53.13 | zeeg | hey Cide |
| 15:53.56 | zeeg | would you adopt something like this for CTMod: http://www.wowguru.com/forums/showthread.php?p=65482#post65482 |
| 15:54.04 | zeeg | (revised version of the patcher) |
| 15:58.41 | Cide | I already stated my opinion :) |
| 15:58.56 | zeeg | well rethink it! :D |
| 15:59.07 | zeeg | this version is geared more towards a community than helping wowguru |
| 15:59.11 | zeeg | wowguru does fine w/o the patcher honestly |
| 16:14.17 | Qzot | Has anyone developed a small-but-simple JUnit-style testing framework for addon code? |
| 16:15.21 | Wobin_ | LUnit? =) |
| 16:15.34 | zeeg | ZUnit? |
| 16:15.45 | zeeg | dont download gaim, its a trick! |
| 16:15.49 | Wobin_ | No, Zeeg, that would be egotastic |
| 16:16.05 | Qzot | Are those WoW-specific, or Lua-specific? |
| 16:16.15 | Wobin_ | Man, I haven't thought of eXtreme programming in a while =P |
| 16:16.33 | Qzot | I'm having enough pains devving WoW code, I'm tempted again. |
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| 16:27.46 | namxo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=331280&p=1&tmp=1#post331280 |
| 16:28.00 | Qzot | Off to work. Later. |
| 16:28.41 | namxo | zunit ? |
| 16:28.52 | Qzot | Pointer? |
| 16:29.11 | Qzot | And, as asked previously, is ZUnit Lua-specific, or WoW-specific? |
| 16:29.43 | Wobin_ | I don't think Zeeg was serious |
| 16:29.50 | Wobin_ | Nor was I |
| 16:29.51 | namxo | what's zunit ? :p |
| 16:30.07 | Qzot | Ah. Sorry. Thought you were re-recommending it... hehe |
| 16:30.12 | Wobin_ | Sorry =) |
| 16:30.16 | namxo | up the post |
| 16:30.22 | namxo | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=331280&p=1&tmp=1#post331280 |
| 16:30.34 | Wobin_ | He wanted a JUnit equivalent for Lua |
| 16:30.54 | namxo | what's junit ? |
| 16:31.18 | namxo | java unit ? |
| 16:33.44 | Beladona | its a testing framework |
| 16:33.52 | Wobin_ | It's a pre-test system that allows you to develop software tests for code that you can run for projects that have a fast development cycle |
| 16:34.14 | namxo | it's java unit ok |
| 16:34.15 | namxo | :p |
| 16:34.40 | Beladona | that is getting too specific |
| 16:34.46 | Wobin_ | probably |
| 16:34.49 | Beladona | we just need a testing framework for wow |
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| 16:34.59 | namxo | useless i think :) |
| 16:35.03 | Beladona | probably a load on demand blizzard addon |
| 16:35.11 | Wobin_ | What, like debug stuff? |
| 16:35.11 | Kirkburn | Hullo ... has someone played WoW Tic Tac Toe? |
| 16:35.26 | Beladona | debug, runtime testing, expression dumping, etc... |
| 16:35.33 | Wobin_ | stacktracing =) |
| 16:35.36 | Beladona | yeah |
| 16:36.14 | namxo | useless |
| 16:36.14 | namxo | :) |
| 16:36.17 | Kirkburn | My eyes aren't deceiving me ... they've actually added mini-games? |
| 16:36.17 | Beladona | you could just have a line of code at the beginning that loads the debug addon, and then run tests. Comment out the loader, and no more debug mode |
| 16:37.10 | Wobin_ | Thank you naxmo, for the totally unhelpful comment =P |
| 16:37.20 | namxo | :p |
| 16:37.22 | Wobin_ | But yeah, that'd be useful |
| 16:38.54 | zeeg | what's the wow font again |
| 16:39.18 | Kirkburn | frizqt? |
| 16:39.38 | Kirkburn | There are four |
| 16:39.42 | zeeg | thanks |
| 16:40.05 | Kirkburn | That's not the exact name ... |
| 16:40.45 | Kirkburn | FRIZQT__.TTF |
| 16:40.56 | zeeg | hrm |
| 16:40.59 | zeeg | i cant find it wth |
| 16:41.08 | Kirkburn | Also ARIALN.TTF |
| 16:41.17 | Kirkburn | MORPHEUS.ttf |
| 16:41.37 | zeeg | i swear i had the frizqt font |
| 16:41.41 | zeeg | what else is it called |
| 16:41.42 | Kirkburn | skurri.ttf |
| 16:41.57 | Kirkburn | The actual name is something weird |
| 16:42.13 | Kirkburn | I forget what |
| 16:45.54 | Kirkburn | Why does the addition of Tic Tac Toe to WoW not surprise anyone? Old news? Inevitable? |
| 16:48.35 | Wobin_ | Hehe |
| 16:48.49 | Wobin_ | I'm pretty blase about it =P |
| 16:50.56 | Kirkburn | :) Something for the raiders to busy themselves with |
| 16:53.27 | Wobin_ | Got to have something to pass the queue time =) |
| 16:53.48 | Wobin_ | I wonder if I could code up something like Connect4 |
| 16:56.29 | Shouryuu | namxo t la? |
| 16:57.09 | namxo | oui |
| 16:57.27 | Shouryuu | il unclu, inclu ca se termine comment? |
| 16:57.35 | namxo | hein ? |
| 16:57.50 | Shouryuu | lol la terminaison de "il inclu" |
| 16:57.52 | namxo | inclus ? |
| 16:57.57 | Shouryuu | cimer :P |
| 16:58.06 | namxo | :p |
| 16:58.08 | Shouryuu | desole j'ai du mal en orthographe... |
| 16:58.35 | namxo | dit à slouken que la barre sans exp est pas belle :p |
| 16:59.42 | Shouryuu | je peux plus poster sur les forums, mon accont est expire |
| 16:59.53 | namxo | roh |
| 16:59.57 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 17:08.50 | Shouryuu | is dust damagin to DVDs? |
| 17:09.28 | Shouryuu | dumb question I know but I need an answer |
| 17:10.45 | Wobin_ | Not really. |
| 17:10.51 | Wobin_ | unless it scratches the surface |
| 17:10.56 | Wobin_ | But if you have rewritable dvds |
| 17:11.05 | Wobin_ | it may be better not to leave them in the light |
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| 17:11.09 | Wobin_ | since the dye may degrade |
| 17:11.23 | Wobin_ | And I need to stop talking in short phrases. |
| 17:11.27 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 17:11.53 | Shouryuu | My brother half killed me the other day because there was dust on my DvDs... |
| 17:12.20 | id` | removable media is evil |
| 17:12.34 | id` | hey guys |
| 17:12.35 | Wobin_ | If they're sitting data side up enough to gather dust, it could be damaged from exposure, or stuff landing on it to scratch it |
| 17:12.39 | Wobin_ | mornin id |
| 17:12.40 | Shouryuu | He was like "DUST!Zomg! You need to take care of things you fucking idiot!" |
| 17:12.43 | id` | wanna see this REALLY REALLY REALLY hot chick? |
| 17:12.47 | Shouryuu | no |
| 17:12.52 | Wobin_ | is she on fire? |
| 17:12.55 | Shouryuu | I fear the worst |
| 17:12.55 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:13.02 | id` | no shes wet, btw |
| 17:13.05 | Shouryuu | ah |
| 17:13.08 | Wobin_ | with gasoline? |
| 17:13.12 | id` | if you can guess who she is, you watch too much pron |
| 17:13.14 | id` | sec |
| 17:13.17 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:13.21 | Shouryuu | I hope id |
| 17:13.24 | Shouryuu | ' didn't guess |
| 17:13.53 | Wobin_ | Jenna Jameson? =P |
| 17:14.18 | id` | http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5907/102un.jpg |
| 17:14.22 | id` | i removed the watermark |
| 17:14.23 | id` | ke ke |
| 17:14.37 | id` | :P~~~ |
| 17:14.47 | Wobin_ | oh |
| 17:14.54 | Wobin_ | When you said wet, I expected soaked =P |
| 17:14.59 | id` | ;) |
| 17:15.00 | Wobin_ | +white clothing |
| 17:15.16 | Wobin_ | She looks very dutch |
| 17:15.20 | Wobin_ | but that could be the lace |
| 17:15.28 | id` | shes my current desktop babe :-) |
| 17:15.43 | Wobin_ | She appears to have difficulty drinking =) |
| 17:16.26 | id` | hehe |
| 17:16.31 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:20.33 | Wobin_ | anyway |
| 17:20.35 | Wobin_ | night! |
| 17:20.38 | Wobin_ | must sleep =( |
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| 17:36.14 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/ vs (something similar to) http://www.wowguru.com/wowguru-new.jpg |
| 17:36.59 | id` | http://www.se-5.com/chap4.htm |
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| 17:38.03 | id` | zeeg: jpg wins. One navigation for the win. |
| 17:38.06 | id` | Shouryuu: |
| 17:38.07 | id` | http://www.se-5.com/chap4.htm |
| 17:38.09 | id` | read |
| 17:38.10 | id` | :D |
| 17:38.15 | zeeg | id`, there will still be top nav |
| 17:38.17 | zeeg | :P |
| 17:39.27 | id` | zeeg: boo |
| 17:39.44 | id` | Shouryuu: that paper tells you how information and gravity are the same o.O |
| 17:43.15 | Shouryuu | lol I'll take a look later |
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| 18:04.55 | namxo | http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5907/102un.jpg |
| 18:05.01 | namxo | UPS /P |
| 18:05.36 | namxo | # CastSpellByName("Spell Name" [,onSelf]) -- Now takes optional onSelf parameter similar to UseAction. |
| 18:11.51 | Kirkburn | zeeg, why the half american/half english flag? You don't speak American, y'know :P |
| 18:13.59 | Kirkburn | Got a really nice and gratifying comment on http://ui.worldofwar.net/ui.php?id=1424 yesterday ... look at the first comment |
| 18:14.50 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: nice :) |
| 18:15.07 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 18:15.23 | Cairenn | namxo: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=331280&s=new&tmp=1#new |
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| 18:25.09 | Cairenn | Slouken is busy handing out presents again |
| 18:30.03 | [MoonWolf] | cool |
| 18:30.06 | [MoonWolf] | what kind ? |
| 18:30.31 | Cairenn | "I'm adding the following editbox functions: |
| 18:30.31 | Cairenn | EditBox:SetAltArrowKeyMode(enabled) |
| 18:30.31 | Cairenn | enabled = EditBox:GetAltArrowKeyMode() |
| 18:30.31 | Cairenn | You'll be able to do this to get what you want: |
| 18:30.32 | Cairenn | editbox:SetAltArrowKeyMode(false)" |
| 18:30.41 | Cairenn | "Sure, I'm adding: |
| 18:30.41 | Cairenn | ScrollFrame:SetScrollChild(frame or "framename") |
| 18:30.41 | Cairenn | frame = ScrollFrame:GetScrollChild()" |
| 18:31.04 | [MoonWolf] | is this making it into 1.10 or for 1.11 ? |
| 18:31.14 | Cairenn | 1.10 |
| 18:31.22 | [MoonWolf] | presents indeed |
| 18:31.27 | Cairenn | that's the thread he's posting them in |
| 18:32.36 | Cairenn | he spoils us |
| 18:34.14 | zeeg | Kirkburn, because its EU and US |
| 18:34.44 | [MoonWolf] | And we love him for it. |
| 18:35.17 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 18:35.27 | Kirkburn | zeeg, then shouldn't it be an EU flag ;) |
| 18:35.47 | zeeg | Kirkburn, but its US also |
| 18:35.48 | Kirkburn | I'm joking ... I like the design btw |
| 18:36.30 | Kirkburn | Christmas all year round, eh |
| 18:36.42 | Kirkburn | Bet he wears a Santa constume every time he posts that stuff |
| 18:36.50 | zeeg | christmsa?O.o |
| 18:36.52 | zeeg | christmas? |
| 18:37.07 | Kirkburn | And he's got an elf too |
| 18:37.41 | Kirkburn | zeeg, refer to what Cairenn said :) |
| 18:39.31 | Kirkburn | Perhaps we should have bets on which part of the UI they'll 'do up' next |
| 18:40.21 | Cairenn | Kirkburn: ? |
| 18:40.50 | Kirkburn | Guild last time, Rep this time ... |
| 18:40.53 | Cairenn | ah |
| 18:41.35 | Kirkburn | Perhaps 'do up' it an englishism (anglism?) |
| 18:41.43 | Kirkburn | s/it/is/ |
| 18:42.13 | Cairenn | oh, I knew what you meant by "do up", I just wasn't quite following what the reference was |
| 18:43.52 | Kirkburn | I have a random mind, haven't you noticed? |
| 18:44.39 | Cairenn | not saying a word |
| 18:45.10 | Kirkburn | You just did. Four! (the old ones are the best) |
| 18:45.16 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 19:01.41 | namxo | Cairenn so it's buggy CastSPellByName |
| 19:04.22 | Cairenn | namxo: if you want to make a reply to the thread, PM it to me on WoWI again |
| 19:04.28 | Cairenn | precise text |
| 19:05.55 | Beladona | how is the new flightmap changes? |
| 19:06.05 | Beladona | does it replace the need for that flightmap addon? |
| 19:07.09 | Cairenn | well, that's a bit better today ... only 352 ahead of me |
| 19:07.19 | Cairenn | better than 4.5k+ |
| 19:07.35 | Cairenn | Beladona: let you know when I log in and can take a look |
| 19:09.57 | Cairenn | yup, replaces it nicely |
| 19:10.29 | Cairenn | pretty nifty, actually |
| 19:11.33 | JoshBorke | now they just need to incorporate flight times :D |
| 19:11.56 | namxo | :) |
| 19:12.11 | Cairenn | yeah, that's the one thing missing |
| 19:12.22 | Cairenn | but at least it shows you all the jumps and the total cost |
| 19:13.12 | JoshBorke | i wonder what it would do for auberdine->silithus |
| 19:14.22 | Tem | about an hour ago I logged in to no queue at all |
| 19:14.37 | Tem | Be warned if you are waiting now: The world server is down. |
| 19:14.39 | Cairenn | Aub >Theremore > Gadget > Sith |
| 19:17.25 | Tem | Cairenn: how long is that flight? |
| 19:17.32 | Cairenn | no timer |
| 19:17.35 | Cairenn | just total cost |
| 19:17.36 | Tem | I'm just going to answer it for you then |
| 19:18.14 | Tem | Survey says.... |
| 19:18.25 | JoshBorke | the first trip is going to put you afk |
| 19:18.49 | Tem | That flight is go-do-your-shopping-for-the-next-year long |
| 19:18.58 | Cairenn | lol, yeah |
| 19:19.10 | namxo | :) |
| 19:19.39 | Tem | speaking of which... |
| 19:19.51 | Cairenn | later Tem |
| 19:19.57 | Tem|Class | +e |
| 19:20.11 | Cairenn | I logged in in under 1 min |
| 19:20.26 | Cairenn | queue is basically non-existent atm |
| 19:21.51 | Kirkburn | Until someone mentions that on the forums ... |
| 19:21.57 | Cairenn | shhh |
| 19:21.58 | Tem|Class | is it actually up now? |
| 19:22.05 | Tem|Class | I was just on a few minutes ago |
| 19:22.06 | Cairenn | yeah, I was on |
| 19:22.11 | Cairenn | I just logged out now |
| 19:22.14 | Tem|Class | but the world server died before I could finish what I was doing |
| 19:22.27 | Cairenn | which continent were you on? |
| 19:22.30 | Cairenn | I was over in Auberdine |
| 19:28.46 | JoshBorke | aren't the numbers that scroll above enemies done by WoW? |
| 19:28.58 | JoshBorke | damage YOU do TO enemies that is :-D |
| 19:33.14 | *** part/#wowi-lounge JoshBorke (n=Josh@jak-579.stl.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 19:35.15 | Beladona | yes it is part of the world, and can't be modified |
| 19:35.19 | Tem|Class | I was in UC |
| 19:35.47 | Tem|Class | I rolled a horde mage to see what it would be like... |
| 19:35.56 | Tem|Class | and I regret not doing that a year ago |
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| 19:38.33 | MentalPower | Woot! Kalimdor world server down (PTR) |
| 19:39.59 | namxo | http://shatteredminds.net/testrealm/ |
| 19:40.04 | namxo | i love this music :) |
| 19:41.16 | Shouryuu | I am eating the biggest man made steak |
| 19:41.19 | Shouryuu | hummm deliiiciiiouuus |
| 19:44.23 | Cairenn | Shouryuu: you realize that there are so many things that are just plain wrong with that statement, right? |
| 19:44.53 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 19:44.55 | Shouryuu | sowy |
| 19:46.05 | Shouryuu | no for desert... whiped cream! (ok just pushing it there :P ) |
| 19:46.10 | Shouryuu | *now |
| 19:46.22 | Beladona | wish lilo would stfu |
| 19:46.25 | Beladona | lol |
| 19:46.26 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 19:47.23 | Shouryuu | lilo? |
| 19:49.02 | Cairenn | it's like, unh, we heard you the first eleventyzillion times :p |
| 19:49.31 | Kirkburn | Where's Stitch? |
| 19:54.52 | Cairenn | dunno, but if he's as annoying, he's welcome to stay away :p |
| 19:59.20 | Kirkburn | But he does really cool Elvis impressions! |
| 20:05.53 | Kirkburn | OMG it's Goblins! http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=879753&p=#post881066 |
| 20:06.22 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:10.06 | Shouryuu | I'm guessing that's a joke |
| 20:10.27 | Cairenn | umm, yeah |
| 20:10.46 | Kirkburn | :( |
| 20:11.00 | Kirkburn | I know, if I do that every day I'm bound to get it right |
| 20:11.24 | Cairenn | and even if you do, I'm still gonna tell you you're wrong |
| 20:11.54 | Kirkburn | You'll have to make sure u take the exact right amount of time to answer |
| 20:12.45 | Kirkburn | It's April 1st soon ... wonder what Blizz will do |
| 20:14.02 | Kirkburn | Tseric: We read the suggestion forum, but do not post. (Legal reasons) <-- that surprised me, I didn't realise there would be legal implications |
| 20:14.27 | Cairenn | probably tell you the name of the new race, but since everyone knows that they play Aprl Fool's jokes, no one will believe that it's real, so it'll be the ultimate April Fool's joke |
| 20:14.56 | Cairenn | (yes, I have a diabolical mind) |
| 20:15.08 | Shadowd | It would probably depend on what the race is, if it's something realistic then probably not |
| 20:17.24 | Kirkburn | That's genius! |
| 20:22.51 | Kirkburn | The standard of the EU forums :D http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general-en&t=881466 |
| 20:25.01 | Kirkburn | Who wouldn't want an Aeus plushie |
| 20:25.23 | Kirkburn | An Eyonix plushie would be cool |
| 20:25.33 | Kirkburn | Esp with sound effects |
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| 20:42.12 | MentalPower | meh, back to the 1.9 realms for me I guess |
| 20:52.05 | Tem | let the dynamic frame creation begin! |
| 20:52.05 | Kremonte | someone needs to invent a cure for lowlevelinstanceitus |
| 20:52.20 | Kremonte | "yay, finally get to instance on my warrior" |
| 20:52.31 | Kremonte | Xcat casts Mind Blast. Xcat casts Mind Blast. Xcat casts Mind Blast. |
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| 20:53.01 | wereHamster | is sunder armor considered a magic attack? |
| 20:53.05 | Tem | no |
| 20:53.06 | Kremonte | nope |
| 20:53.10 | Tem | NOOOOOO! |
| 20:53.13 | Kremonte | only magic warriors have are shouts and taunts i believe |
| 20:53.14 | wereHamster | and revenge? |
| 20:53.15 | Tem | Test realm is down |
| 20:53.19 | Kremonte | nope |
| 20:53.34 | wereHamster | why does the twin do unbalancing strikes then? |
| 20:53.35 | MentalPower | debuffs now have a number after them when cast (for stackable debuffs) |
| 20:54.04 | Kremonte | huh? |
| 20:54.14 | Kirkburn | Even for just one? |
| 20:54.25 | Kirkburn | (since they always did it for 2+) |
| 20:54.30 | MentalPower | X Player Casts Sunder Armor (3). |
| 20:54.33 | Kremonte | oh |
| 20:54.36 | MentalPower | oh really |
| 20:54.47 | Kirkburn | I'm confused now :) |
| 20:55.02 | MentalPower | I'm talking about the chat window |
| 20:55.05 | wereHamster | this is very good.. for combat statistick addons |
| 20:55.07 | Kirkburn | I'm talking about the little icons which have numbers on :P |
| 20:55.41 | MentalPower | and blessings now state the unit that cast it on you |
| 20:55.56 | MentalPower | Xplayer casts blessing of wisdom on you |
| 20:56.13 | MentalPower | and You gain Xmana from Xplayer's blessing of wisdom |
| 20:57.24 | Eraphine|Lab | Does anyone know how many characters the /target command uses to match? |
| 20:57.38 | MentalPower | only the first word afaik |
| 20:57.55 | Kirkburn | If it doesn't fit it does the cloest match |
| 20:58.09 | Kremonte | nope |
| 20:58.19 | Kremonte | ./target scarlet myr targeted the mymidon, not the defender |
| 20:58.24 | Eraphine|Lab | So, two npc's who share the same first word can't be uniquely targetted with the /target command? |
| 20:58.32 | Eraphine|Lab | oh.. |
| 21:00.14 | Eraphine|Lab | it should be possible to use UnitName("target") to get the full name to match though right? |
| 21:00.18 | Kirkburn | I would guess that it tries to match the whole string, then if it fails, shortens it by one character until it finds a match |
| 21:00.41 | Kirkburn | And that I don't know about |
| 21:01.08 | Kirkburn | Btw, new Gadgetzan Times is out : http://www.wow-europe.com/en/gadgetzan/gt002/index.html |
| 21:04.32 | Tem | what's that? |
| 21:06.17 | Kremonte | gadgetzan? |
| 21:06.18 | Kremonte | screw that |
| 21:06.25 | Kremonte | goblins are horrible |
| 21:06.29 | Kremonte | ;_; |
| 21:11.50 | Shouryuu | the coolest char in NEG *has* to be the penguin |
| 21:25.00 | JoshBorke | how do you guys do XML layout? |
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| 21:33.18 | Kirkburn | Oh, the PTR is permanently down |
| 21:33.47 | Kirkburn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=7403459&p=#post7403459 |
| 21:38.00 | JoshBorke | ouch |
| 21:38.50 | futr-sleep | In FF I can only get it to work on my currnt network if I set it to auto-detect my proxy settings. Is there any way to see what those settings are so I can get other programs to work on this network? |
| 21:38.58 | wereHamster | on WoWWiki is: Unbalancing Strike: Massive melee damage counterattack whenever he is touched by magical damage. that can't be right because I was hit and all I have done is normal attack.. |
| 21:41.29 | zeeg | http://www.wowguru.com/gallery/files/buggiest-bug-of-bugs-id1191/ |
| 21:41.29 | zeeg | haha |
| 21:42.24 | JoshBorke | do you know what server that is from? |
| 21:43.12 | Kirkburn | lol, I remember that pic |
| 21:44.08 | JoshBorke | happened on Stormreaver about 2 months ago |
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| 21:53.40 | Beladona | homeward |
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| 21:58.55 | Kirkburn | Oh my, there new sunrises! |
| 21:59.13 | Kirkburn | (bad english, I'm sorry .... just look here http://photobucket.com/albums/a192/PropaneMilo/?action=view¤t=Sunburst.jpg) |
| 22:00.24 | Kremonte | whoa |
| 22:00.53 | futr-sleep | sexy gnome |
| 22:10.14 | Josh|Working | wicked awesome |
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| 22:24.36 | Shouryuu | wow Neon Genesis is real good anime |
| 22:53.47 | Tem | Is that the one with the Eva units? |
| 22:57.33 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 23:08.37 | Shouryuu | I can't wait for the last ep :p |
| 23:10.09 | sancus | wereHamster: It's not right, I wouldn't bother reading wowwiki for raid information, no one who's any good at raid content posts on it. |
| 23:13.29 | Corrodias | i have an idea |
| 23:13.43 | Corrodias | if scalping tickets to events is illegal, we should make selling anything at higher than wholesale value illegal |
| 23:14.10 | Corrodias | it makes perfect sense. those retail guys buy it just to charge us more! |
| 23:15.05 | wereHamster | sancus, so you know when the Unbalancing Strike comes? |
| 23:18.17 | sancus | its just part of his attack routine |
| 23:18.26 | sancus | there's no "when" about it, your tank just has to suck it up when it happens |
| 23:18.55 | wereHamster | .. so the tank has to have >10k HP :-/ |
| 23:19.00 | sancus | Nope |
| 23:19.10 | sancus | We kill them regularly with tanks around 9k hps |
| 23:19.18 | sancus | Bit less really, 8700-8800 or so I think |
| 23:19.35 | sancus | And anyway, if you're alliance 10k hp on your tank is trivial |
| 23:19.52 | sancus | If you are horde, you'll probably want flasks on your tanks |
| 23:20.10 | wereHamster | hm.. I have ~9.5k buffed and he still kills me.. 5k Unbalanced Strike, two hits, crushing or crit and I'm dead |
| 23:20.26 | sancus | That's what we call "heal fail" |
| 23:20.45 | wereHamster | hehe.. so it's not my fault :) .. do you play horde? |
| 23:21.01 | sancus | Yes, we were the 4th horde guild in the US to kill them. |
| 23:21.28 | wereHamster | gratz.. |
| 23:21.33 | sancus | They are way harder for horde |
| 23:21.58 | sancus | can't use totems so mana regen sucks and of course no BoK |
| 23:23.40 | Shouryuu | on whom? |
| 23:25.15 | sancus | twin emps |
| 23:26.08 | Shouryuu | twim emps... |
| 23:27.37 | sancus | Uh yes, they're a boss in AQ. |
| 23:29.22 | Tem | is the PTR done taking a dump? |
| 23:29.32 | Codayus | I think it's down until Tue |
| 23:29.32 | Tem | (why no totems on them?) |
| 23:29.51 | sancus | Because it causes a bug that makes the encounter impossible. |
| 23:30.19 | Tem | Codayus: really? |
| 23:30.23 | Tem | Codayus: /cry |
| 23:30.59 | Tem | yay for my AB queue saying estimated wait: 2 minutes but my actual queue time is well over 2 hours |
| 23:33.06 | Kremonte | yeah tem |
| 23:33.15 | Kremonte | a ful lgroup joined and got in instantly |
| 23:33.15 | Tem | damni! |
| 23:33.17 | Kremonte | then you got scr00d |
| 23:33.31 | Tem | how the hell am I supposed to test when the PTR is down? |
| 23:33.34 | Tem | HOW!?!?!? |
| 23:34.08 | Kremonte | tem, you're a mage |
| 23:34.12 | Kremonte | you know, masters of the arcane |
| 23:34.18 | Kremonte | those who bend reality to their will |
| 23:34.22 | Kremonte | you fix it! :D |
| 23:34.27 | Tem | psh |
| 23:34.28 | Kremonte | (i'd hug you if you did) |
| 23:34.44 | Tem | I can't even reliably make myself teleport forward 20 yards |
| 23:35.06 | Tem | sometimes, I go /backwards/ |
| 23:35.23 | Kremonte | ouch. you sound like a gnomish project in development. |
| 23:36.00 | Kremonte | but hey, you can infuse yourself with ephemeral powers, so at least you have that =P |
| 23:36.56 | Tem | you know, I played a bit of pvp on the test realm... |
| 23:37.02 | Tem | the trinket nerf really isn't that bad |
| 23:37.17 | Kremonte | yeah, i don't get why mages are whining |
| 23:37.22 | Tem | it still angers me that they needlessly nerfed them to shut up the swarming masses |
| 23:37.27 | Shouryuu | because they're idiots |
| 23:37.28 | Tem | but it's not THAT big of a nerf |
| 23:37.31 | Kremonte | on vent guild mages were going crazy; "everyone needs to spec ap now! how horrible!!!" |
| 23:37.54 | Tem | well, it does further impose the cookie cutter syndrome |
| 23:37.56 | Shouryuu | tem - Dispell was nerfed needlessly to shut up the swarming masses |
| 23:38.51 | Tem | because seriously, FUCK AP MAGES |
| 23:38.56 | Kremonte | well |
| 23:39.00 | Kremonte | this AP mage in my guild |
| 23:39.02 | Kremonte | actually has skill |
| 23:39.08 | Tem | I doubt that very seriously |
| 23:39.11 | Tem | very, very seriously |
| 23:39.13 | Kremonte | he's like |
| 23:39.19 | Kremonte | the only one in the guild who didn't whine about trinket nerf |
| 23:39.25 | cladhaire | LAZER PEW PEW PEW! |
| 23:39.39 | Shouryuu | Run away, run away! |
| 23:39.42 | Kremonte | i don't see how AP devoids you of skill |
| 23:39.43 | Tem | oh noes! |
| 23:39.44 | Kremonte | it just doesn't require it |
| 23:39.50 | Tem | AP is overpowered |
| 23:39.57 | Tem | AP is the reason they nerfed the trinkets |
| 23:39.59 | Kremonte | so are warlocks and MS |
| 23:40.03 | Kremonte | =P |
| 23:40.10 | Tem | yes, warlocks are stupidly overpowered |
| 23:40.11 | Shouryuu | so are priest with smite! |
| 23:40.21 | Kremonte | shouryuu, please don't mention that |
| 23:40.23 | Tem | dude, 1.10 holy dps priests |
| 23:40.23 | Kremonte | i am still scarred |
| 23:40.23 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:40.29 | Shouryuu | I know :P |
| 23:40.31 | Shouryuu | REVENGE! |
| 23:40.39 | Kremonte | "yes, 39! i get to run SM a dozen times and get MS , w00t!" |
| 23:40.40 | Tem | I was crit by holy fire for 1500 |
| 23:40.44 | Kremonte | zone into armoury... |
| 23:40.46 | Shouryuu | hahahhahahaha |
| 23:40.52 | Kremonte | Xnog casts Mind Blast. Xnog casts Mind Blast. Xnog casts Mind Blast. Xnog casts Mind Blast. Xnog casts Mind Blast. |
| 23:40.54 | Kremonte | Xnog casts Mind Blast. Xnog casts Mind Blast. Xnog casts Mind Blast. Xnog casts Mind Blast. Xnog casts Mind Blast. |
| 23:40.54 | Tem | Kremonte: MS? |
| 23:41.00 | Kremonte | [Party] [Xmog] : OOM |
| 23:41.03 | Tem | Mortal Strike? |
| 23:41.03 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:41.06 | Kremonte | [Party] [Xmog] : stop pulling omg |
| 23:41.09 | Kremonte | You die |
| 23:41.11 | Kremonte | yes tem |
| 23:41.18 | Tem | MS isn't overpowered |
| 23:41.23 | Tem | t2 weapons are overpowered |
| 23:41.32 | Kremonte | Tem: giggle |
| 23:41.43 | Shouryuu | well getting 3 shotted by warriors *kinda* sucks |
| 23:41.45 | Tem | a |
| 23:41.46 | Tem | f;kgjas;ljfh;asd [asdhf |
| 23:41.46 | Tem | alsdhf |
| 23:41.46 | Tem | lasdfg |
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| 23:41.51 | Tem | I just missed my WSG queue |
| 23:41.56 | Shouryuu | hahahahha |
| 23:42.05 | Shouryuu | care for a huggle? |
| 23:42.11 | Kremonte | charge > hamstring > MS > intercept > MS MS execute crit for 3 eleventybillion |
| 23:42.12 | Kremonte | dead |
| 23:42.32 | Shouryuu | yup kremonte that's how it happens |
| 23:42.44 | Kremonte | and the ace |
| 23:42.55 | Kremonte | [31/20 warrior]: NERF DEATH COIL AND DOUBLE TRINKET MAGES |
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| 23:43.08 | Shouryuu | charge > Hamstring > fear, renew, shield > Intercept > MS > execute -( |
| 23:43.20 | Kremonte | fear? fear doesn't exist alliance side |
| 23:43.24 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:43.27 | Shouryuu | Wotf! |
| 23:43.29 | Kremonte | let me tell you a story |
| 23:43.52 | sancus | AP is overpowered, lol |
| 23:43.54 | Kremonte | You cast Fear. Leethaxsploitzcoptr gains Will of the Forsaken. |
| 23:44.03 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:44.06 | Kremonte | You cast Fear. Leethaxsploitzcoptr gains Berserker Rage. |
| 23:44.06 | sancus | AP is nowhere near as good as ice block so I can't see how anyone would consider it overpowered. |
| 23:44.12 | Tem | wooot! |
| 23:44.17 | Tem | got back into my WSG |
| 23:44.34 | Kremonte | You cast Fear. Leethaxsploitzcoptr gains (blacksmithing trinket). |
| 23:44.39 | Kremonte | You cast Fear. Leethaxsploitzcoptr is immune. |
| 23:44.47 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 23:44.48 | Kremonte | sooo |
| 23:44.55 | Kremonte | i <3 troll priests tho |
| 23:45.00 | Shouryuu | Rawr! |
| 23:45.13 | Shouryuu | It's a good thing the new racial is an instant |
| 23:45.32 | Kremonte | if ((UnitRace("target") == "Troll") and (UnitClass("target") == "Priest")) then DoEmote("cheer") end |
| 23:45.54 | Shouryuu | I'm probably going to make a Inner fire ==> mount dismount ==> Lighting shield thing |
| 23:45.56 | Shouryuu | macro |
| 23:45.59 | Shouryuu | rawr to me! |
| 23:48.47 | Kremonte | with this luck i'm never gonna win the scholarship =( |
| 23:49.07 | Kremonte | russian guy can't translate it, every french or canadian person in my guild can't translate it |
| 23:49.41 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 23:49.48 | Kremonte | i dun even know any german/polish/icelandic/norwegian/belgian/indian/indonesian/chinese/japanese/korean/bulgarian people |
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