| 00:03.32 | Iriel | You know, this patch may be the most comprehensive set of frame method updates to date |
| 00:05.10 | Kirkburn | Well, I know that I'm relatively happy with it |
| 00:05.36 | Kirkburn | I think it's a much more positive patch than was first thought |
| 00:22.14 | Miravlix | Desperate Game Developer - THE GAME! |
| 00:43.41 | Iriel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-interface-customization&ThreadID=342347 |
| 00:43.52 | Cairenn | k |
| 00:43.59 | Iriel | For anyone who cares, that's the API change thread, I haven't finished the frame methods |
| 00:44.09 | Iriel | There's just too damn many and I have to get ready for dinner |
| 00:44.10 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 00:44.52 | Cairenn | going out somewhere fancy for dinner this evening? |
| 00:45.10 | Iriel | Just chinese, it's a late birthday dinner for a friend of ours. |
| 00:45.15 | Cairenn | nice :) |
| 00:47.17 | Kirkburn | Enjoy |
| 00:47.24 | Miravlix | Just gui crap, who cares. :) |
| 00:47.46 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 00:48.28 | Miravlix | Hmm, I should go recode looklook to use mouse api. |
| 00:49.00 | Miravlix | What the hell |
| 00:49.01 | Miravlix | * NEW - function. err = loadstring("functionBody") - Lua API loadstring function. |
| 00:49.09 | Miravlix | Dynamic function loading? |
| 00:49.37 | Iriel | It's "RunString" without the 'run' |
| 00:49.46 | Iriel | And with better error handling |
| 00:49.54 | MentalPower | basically a pcall'able RunScript() |
| 00:50.04 | Iriel | And a setfenv'able one |
| 00:50.06 | Kirkburn | Did LaunchURL("URL") do anything? |
| 00:50.10 | Iriel | which is possibly a greater advantage |
| 00:50.12 | MentalPower | err... what Iriel said :) |
| 00:50.28 | Iriel | Kirkburn : If the URL was a blizzard one, it fired off a browser in your OS to the page |
| 00:50.38 | Kirkburn | Intriguing |
| 00:51.33 | Shouryuu | Why is GITS so fascinated with french |
| 00:51.47 | Shouryuu | the opening quote of Innocence is one from a french author |
| 00:52.29 | Shouryuu | If you've seen the 2nd GiG of SAC, you'll see the tittles from the "induvidual 11" are all translated in french |
| 00:52.31 | MentalPower | Iriel: a typo "All UI Object shave the following NEW methods " shoudn't that be "share" instead? :) |
| 00:52.47 | MentalPower | and Object"s" |
| 00:53.01 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 00:53.18 | Miravlix | What are you smooking MP, it's definately Shave |
| 00:53.34 | Miravlix | share make no sense what so ever in that context |
| 00:54.30 | MentalPower | lol |
| 00:54.46 | Kirkburn | Well, I'm more humoured by Shouryuu's tittles |
| 00:55.28 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 00:55.30 | Miravlix | Is there any way to detect if WoW has focus? |
| 00:55.33 | Shouryuu | tittles |
| 00:55.41 | Kirkburn | :D |
| 00:56.01 | Shouryuu | it's my subconscious wanting to say nipples |
| 00:56.10 | Kirkburn | Someone on the EU UI forum thinks I'm a clown :( |
| 00:56.11 | Iriel | heh, should have been objects have |
| 00:56.12 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 00:56.14 | Kirkburn | Yes, yes it is |
| 00:56.18 | Miravlix | I just did the classic, jump on taxi to a far away destination and go chit/chat read web sites |
| 00:56.42 | Miravlix | When I come back I'm in Stormwind again because my BG auto joiner joined me and then the auto /afk'er afked me out. :p |
| 00:56.55 | Shouryuu | I used to have an english teacher who pronounced Nepal like Nipple |
| 00:57.01 | Miravlix | If I could disable autojoin when WoW doesn't have focus that would be nice |
| 00:58.44 | Miravlix | Or just make WoW stop auto muting the sound when it loss focus |
| 00:59.41 | Kirkburn | Shouryuu, stop thinking about breasts! Miravlix, that'd be nice ... probably quite hard though |
| 01:00.14 | Shouryuu | Boooooo00000oooobies |
| 01:00.15 | Miravlix | If there isn't a way to do it, it's haxored wow.exe stuff and that is beyond what I plan to do. |
| 01:00.52 | Miravlix | I'm guessing my only option is to turn off auto join, I don't really see the point in it anyway |
| 01:01.39 | Shouryuu | maybe you can just bind a macro/functions that takes auto-join off to your tab key, so when you alt+tab you off it? |
| 01:06.40 | Iriel | Just make the auto-joiner not auto-join is most of your actions aren't usable (i.e. when you're on a bird) |
| 01:27.29 | Kirkburn | Time for bed ... night night all! |
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| 01:47.08 | Tem | any java folks around? |
| 01:47.36 | MentalPower | erm... I learned programming in java |
| 01:47.43 | Iriel | I'm here |
| 01:47.48 | Tem | I need some API advice |
| 01:48.19 | Tem | I'm trying to do some HTML parsing, but I'm having a real difficult time |
| 01:48.31 | Iriel | *wince* |
| 01:48.41 | Tem | sounds like you know from experience |
| 01:48.49 | Iriel | Is it cleanly structured HTML (Or, even better XHTML) ? |
| 01:49.05 | Tem | it's any webpage I come across |
| 01:49.21 | Tem | but lets assume it's cleanly structured |
| 01:49.35 | Tem | I only need to parse the contents of the title tag |
| 01:49.58 | Tem | and the href attribute of any anchor tags I find |
| 01:49.59 | Iriel | Well, your best bet is the 'one big string' approach |
| 01:50.11 | Iriel | if you've got some particularly simple parsing needs |
| 01:50.24 | Tem | alright, but what the 'best' way to get it into that form |
| 01:50.45 | Iriel | Well, what's your input? The file? Or a URL? |
| 01:50.50 | Tem | URL |
| 01:51.29 | Iriel | You can just call openConnection() on a URL |
| 01:51.35 | Iriel | and you get a URLConnection object |
| 01:51.41 | Tem | right |
| 01:52.05 | Tem | at the moment I'm calling openStream to instantiate a StringReader class |
| 01:52.27 | Iriel | Then you acn call getInputStream() on that |
| 01:52.43 | Tem | is there any difference? |
| 01:53.05 | Tem | url.openConnection().getInputStream() vs url.openStream() |
| 01:53.08 | Iriel | Actually, not if you're not using any othr parts of URLConnection |
| 01:53.29 | Iriel | If you're trying to do it 'robustly' you MIGHT want to tell the URLConnection soem stuff, but for simple uses it'll be the same |
| 01:53.54 | Tem | I doubt I will need anything all that robust |
| 01:54.04 | Iriel | Anyway, to get a string you'll: |
| 01:54.16 | Iriel | A) Create an InputStreamReader around the InputStream |
| 01:54.38 | Iriel | B) if you want, create a BufferedReader around the InputStreamReader |
| 01:55.12 | Iriel | C) Read from whichever reader you use into a decent sized char array |
| 01:55.44 | Iriel | D) Use StringBuffer.append(str, ofs, len) to append what you read into a StringBuffer (which you'd have created earlier) |
| 01:55.53 | Iriel | D) When you're done reading, call toString on the StringBuffer() |
| 01:55.59 | Iriel | That last one was supposed to be E 8-) |
| 01:56.06 | Iriel | Anyway, that's quick and dirty for most simple cases |
| 01:56.20 | Iriel | Then you can just use the normal string methods to find your important content |
| 01:56.35 | Tem | yeah, once it's in a string the parsing become pretty simple |
| 01:56.39 | GenNMX|Thrae | http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127 <-- CentOS author accused of "hacking" a crashed website |
| 01:57.06 | Iriel | If the pages are too large for rationally storing them as strings, you'd have to write a stream-oriented parser |
| 01:57.19 | Iriel | Which, while not HORRIBLE, is a lot more work |
| 01:57.35 | Tem | Iriel: I think that's what they expect me to do, but I'd really rather not |
| 01:57.38 | Iriel | Now it's entirely possible that someone's written a decent html parser that handles 'iffy html' |
| 01:58.00 | Iriel | http://www.do.org/products/parser/ |
| 01:58.03 | Iriel | That might be ok |
| 01:58.14 | Tem | I'm pretty sure it has to be all my own code |
| 01:58.19 | Iriel | ah, homework? |
| 01:58.22 | Tem | indeed |
| 01:58.31 | Tem | simple search engine |
| 01:58.54 | Tem | any suggestions on chosing the char array size? |
| 01:59.50 | Iriel | I'd say a few K, 2-8 ? |
| 02:00.15 | Iriel | If you DO have to do this in a 'stream oriented' form yourself, here's what i'd do |
| 02:01.06 | Iriel | 1) Write a simple tokenizer that splits the stream into 'tag' and 'content', based on a simple 2 state analyzer (the 2 states being "Outside tag" and "Inside tag" |
| 02:02.16 | Iriel | 2) Write a simple parser that runs on the token stream and finds the data you want, use slightly more states (start, inHead, inTitle, inBody, inA, done) |
| 02:03.20 | Iriel | You can possibly dumb that down to just (normal, inTitle) if you dont care about structure 8-) |
| 02:03.46 | Tem | hopefully, I won't need to |
| 02:03.57 | Tem | but thanks for the advice |
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| 02:09.39 | Iriel | And my *wince* was just because 'HTML' in general is very sloppy |
| 02:10.07 | Iriel | So often 'html parser' classes die horribly when exposed to real-world HTML |
| 02:10.10 | cladhaire | GenNMX|Thrae: Thats hilarious |
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| 02:20.54 | Cairenn | later Iriel |
| 02:27.38 | Cairenn | oookay, that article by the CentOS author is just sad sad sad |
| 02:44.08 | Miravlix | ? |
| 02:44.30 | MentalPower | link? |
| 02:44.33 | Miravlix | Dunno who CentOS is, or who the author is, or what article he/she wrote |
| 02:46.05 | cladhaire | http://www.centos.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=127 |
| 02:46.07 | cladhaire | its hilarious =) |
| 02:47.29 | GenNMX|Thrae | CentOS is an operating system, like Windows. It is a brand of the Linux GNU operating system. |
| 02:50.13 | Miravlix | The support departments has insane stories. :) |
| 02:50.58 | cladhaire | ~centos |
| 02:51.00 | purl | centos is, like, better than Fedora Core except for that silly bug, see ~centosbug for details |
| 02:51.06 | cladhaire | ~centosbug |
| 02:51.07 | purl | [centosbug] a problem with the latest Centos 4.2 kernel. To fix it, edit the file /usr/src/kernels/2.6.9-34.EL-i686/include/linux/spinlock.h and change 'rw_lock_t' on line 407 to 'rwlock_t'. Make sure you're NOT using gcc4, as that doesn't work either. |
| 02:51.14 | cladhaire | lol |
| 02:54.36 | Miravlix | The irony of it all, is that support departments insane stories is because of bad support departments |
| 02:54.47 | Miravlix | So these stories is making fun of themself |
| 03:02.30 | GenNMX|Thrae | Miravlix: CentOS doesn't have a support department. It's a freely distributed, open source operating system. |
| 03:03.05 | GenNMX|Thrae | The guy just happened to find the email address of someone on the CentOS development team, who probably has a day job other then developing CentOS. |
| 03:03.25 | cladhaire | And was trying to help, out of kindness. |
| 03:05.24 | GenNMX|Thrae | CentOS is actually based on the Red Hat Enterprise distribution of Linux, a commericial package, so he couldn't sell it if he wanted to. CentOS lives off donations and this guy's hard work for free. |
| 03:06.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | Not just one guy, but I think he's one of the major developers on the CentOS team. |
| 03:16.13 | Miravlix | Thrae: I'm an ex-Linux Kernel hacker. :p |
| 03:17.40 | Miravlix | But that was back in the day where things where simpler and we where working on 1.x.x kernels, they out leveled me in sofistication so I couldn't contribute to it anymore |
| 03:18.19 | Tem | gah this sucks so much |
| 03:18.31 | Miravlix | But I've been a Linux Sysadmin for 10 years now |
| 03:18.33 | Tem | anyone know if HTML attributes are all characters? |
| 03:18.41 | Tem | ie no special characters or spaces |
| 03:18.50 | Kolth` | correct |
| 03:23.08 | Tem | would any of them happen to have underscores? |
| 03:23.25 | Kolth | I dont think so. |
| 03:23.28 | Kolth | You can check w3.org |
| 03:24.53 | Tem | I'm going crazy |
| 03:25.02 | Tem | anyway want to bash their head against my regex? |
| 03:25.11 | Kolth | I'll take a glance. |
| 03:25.35 | Tem | be warned: it's scary scary |
| 03:25.43 | Tem | <[Aa](?:\\s+[a-zA-Z]+=\"[^\"]*\"\\s*)*[Hh][Rr][Ee][Ff]=\"[^\"]*\"(?:\\s+[a-zA-Z]+=\"[^\"]*\"\\s+)*> |
| 03:26.00 | Tem | (that's in java's regex syntax) |
| 03:26.34 | Miravlix | Doesn't look too bad |
| 03:27.02 | Miravlix | But wouldn't it be simpler with a string.format |
| 03:27.10 | Tem | I'm in lua land |
| 03:27.21 | Tem | er, -not- in lua land |
| 03:29.04 | JoshBorke | er, how do i get what group a unit is in? |
| 03:29.16 | JoshBorke | in a raid :D |
| 03:29.25 | Kolth | I think the best way is iteration. |
| 03:29.45 | JoshBorke | GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 03:29.55 | JoshBorke | thanks :) |
| 03:30.07 | Miravlix | That regex is like trying to find ancient burried artifacts with a steamroller |
| 03:30.08 | Kolth | I thnk someone was dealing with your issue months ago and there was no good way. |
| 03:30.25 | Miravlix | Tem: Java has invented string.format too |
| 03:30.31 | Miravlix | I don't care what it's called there |
| 03:30.44 | JoshBorke | oh em gee |
| 03:30.48 | JoshBorke | what is that regex? |
| 03:31.12 | Tem | it's supposed to match any <A> tag with an href attribute |
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| 03:32.49 | Tem | Kolth: whose issue were you referring to? |
| 03:32.58 | Miravlix | string.format("<A%w%s="%s") |
| 03:33.17 | Miravlix | Thats soo much simpler, not sure if I got the %letters right |
| 03:33.49 | Kolth | I don't think it was even in thsi chan. |
| 03:34.26 | Kolth | Oh, they only had name, not ID |
| 03:34.41 | Kolth | That's why it was the way I said. |
| 03:39.26 | Tem | Miravlix: I'm trying to parse that out of a bigger string |
| 03:39.35 | Tem | not create it |
| 03:39.49 | Tem | if I was in lua land I'd be using string.gfind |
| 03:40.09 | Tem | and it would be crazy harder too since lua doesn't have the non-capturing group concept |
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| 03:50.32 | Miravlix | Tem: I've been a C/C++ programmer for 20+ years now, one of my fav things was parsing files |
| 03:50.49 | Miravlix | I know what your trying to do. |
| 03:51.50 | Tem | Then I'm completely confused by what you are trying to tell me to do |
| 03:52.17 | Tem | I don't see how string.format would have anything to do with this |
| 03:52.29 | Tem | which led me to think you didn't understand what I was doing |
| 03:53.55 | Miravlix | I don't know what Java has called the function |
| 03:54.00 | Miravlix | In C it's scanf |
| 03:54.20 | Miravlix | The concept is simple |
| 03:54.35 | Miravlix | You give it a format string with a few codes and ir parse the input string |
| 03:54.44 | Miravlix | It's an universial thing in all languages I've ever seen |
| 03:56.22 | Tem | I'm not familliar enough with the java api to tell you that function's java incarnation, but I can tell it's not what I need |
| 03:56.39 | Tem | I've got the function I need, I'm just having a hard time getting my regex to match |
| 03:56.59 | Miravlix | Thats because your using regex, your using canons to shoot flies |
| 03:57.05 | Miravlix | Your never going to hit. :) |
| 03:58.23 | Miravlix | It's not the right tool for the job in question |
| 03:58.29 | Wobin_ | unless you catch the fly and throw it at the cannon |
| 03:59.16 | Miravlix | With a format string I can reduce your regex line to 10 chars tops, and it's 32872873 times easier to read |
| 03:59.52 | Tem | Forgive me if I'm skeptical |
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| 03:59.58 | Tem | perhaps you could show me? |
| 04:05.13 | Miravlix | I just did |
| 04:05.21 | Miravlix | string.format("<A%w%s="%s") |
| 04:05.39 | Miravlix | That parse <a href="something") |
| 04:06.27 | Tem | yeah but it's not that simple |
| 04:06.43 | Tem | it could have lots of random stuff in there that we don't know about |
| 04:06.59 | Tem | for example: <a id=2a class=q href="http://groups.google.com/grphp?hl=en&tab=wg" onClick="return qs(this);"> |
| 04:08.53 | Miravlix | Yeah, I would prolly search for <a then search for href |
| 04:09.03 | Miravlix | then grab the "" string |
| 04:09.27 | Tem | At the moment I'm just trying to isolate the <a ... > block |
| 04:09.59 | Tem | which would be a lot easier if I didn't have to guard against potential ">" characters in places I don't expect |
| 04:10.39 | Miravlix | if strtolower( string.sub(var, 0, 2) )== "<a" lua style |
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| 04:14.14 | Osagasu | :O |
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| 04:33.57 | Miravlix | You only have to search for the beginning, the end will come naturally! |
| 04:34.20 | Tem | A Stay of Execution! |
| 04:34.25 | Miravlix | Hmm, this coder is adding and end for every elseif |
| 04:34.41 | Tem | (the assignment has been pushed back) |
| 04:34.48 | Miravlix | if elseif elseif else end end end end |
| 04:35.09 | Miravlix | It works in lua |
| 04:35.16 | Tem | really? |
| 04:35.19 | Miravlix | Lua is one thing I will never even try to parse |
| 04:35.29 | Tem | I would expcect that to blow up |
| 04:35.39 | Miravlix | The lua languages syntax is just sooo insanely weak |
| 04:36.32 | Miravlix | It's the Zorlen Warrior Spam code |
| 04:37.17 | Tem | I swear to god if my neighbor doesn't stop playing that fucking music so loud while I'm trying to concentate, I'm going to go over there and kick his add |
| 04:37.23 | Tem | s/add/ass/ |
| 04:37.44 | Tem | thin appartment walls suck |
| 04:37.53 | Cairenn | they do indeed |
| 04:38.07 | Kolth | Cairenn is sooooo a lurker omg. |
| 04:38.16 | Cairenn | this is not news |
| 04:38.20 | Kolth | hehe :) |
| 04:38.46 | Kolth | I can't stand other people intruding upon my hearing space while I'm working :| |
| 04:40.10 | Osagasu | If you look Cairenn up in any encyclopedia, there will be three things shown: lurker, stealth bumber, and insane. Everything else is up to opinion and slant. *hides* |
| 04:40.33 | Cairenn | sounds about right |
| 04:41.26 | Tem | my last 2 hours of headache was me thinking my parsing was off when in fact it was google giving me 2 different pages |
| 04:42.30 | Tem | all along I thougt I was mysteriously missing some links when in fact I was just not looking at the same page that google was feeding to firefox |
| 04:42.56 | Cairenn | bleh |
| 04:43.11 | Tem | and if their damn html was in a human-readable format as opposed to the one line dribble I might have noticed that a long time ago |
| 04:45.41 | Miravlix | One look at Zorlen, and I've decided I'm better of rewriting it myself. |
| 04:47.34 | KarlKFI | ya, tem thin walls suck hard |
| 04:47.43 | Osagasu | to be fair, it is not made by humans |
| 04:47.44 | KarlKFI | my neighbot wont let me watch movies after 11 |
| 04:48.03 | Tem | I suppose you have a nice sterio system? |
| 04:48.03 | Miravlix | you have a bot living next door? |
| 04:48.33 | KarlKFI | I have 7.1 surround |
| 04:48.36 | Osagasu | You see, if my neighbor told me to do something, I'd do it and THEN some |
| 04:48.49 | KarlKFI | he bangs on the wall hard |
| 04:49.14 | Osagasu | The harder he bangs, the louder I'd go |
| 04:49.26 | Tem | I'd stop banking and call the cops |
| 04:49.27 | KarlKFI | but i work at that time now so it's only an issue on fri and sat |
| 04:49.46 | Tem | "Yes I'd like to report a distubance of the peace" |
| 04:49.47 | KarlKFI | it's 11pm... near a college campus... |
| 04:49.55 | Tem | "Oh you'll be right over?" |
| 04:49.58 | Tem | "Thanks so much" |
| 04:50.09 | KarlKFI | w/e I'll be moving in june |
| 04:50.27 | Tem | normally the loudness of my neighbors doesn't bother me |
| 04:50.35 | Tem | since I have a very very odd sleeping schedule |
| 04:51.16 | Tem | but when I'm trying to do my work and having trouble, the last thing I need to 'help' me concentrate is some retard banging on the bongos |
| 04:51.31 | Miravlix | I dont understand blizzards frames! |
| 04:51.37 | KarlKFI | was best in the dorms, they put everyone together based on sleeping hours from a survey |
| 04:51.52 | Tem | wow that's a good idea |
| 04:51.57 | Miravlix | Why make api calls that effect a frame when the frame doesn't update due to the calls |
| 04:52.15 | Tem | they update on the next draw in most cases |
| 04:52.28 | Miravlix | and you get no api to update the frame after you change things |
| 04:52.39 | Tem | sure you do |
| 04:52.42 | Tem | OnUpdate |
| 04:52.46 | Tem | granted it's messy |
| 04:52.48 | Tem | but it works |
| 04:52.49 | Miravlix | No |
| 04:53.03 | Miravlix | I call TradeSkill APIs |
| 04:53.14 | Tem | which? |
| 04:53.17 | Miravlix | The frame doesn't update until it's closed and opened |
| 04:53.29 | Miravlix | And it doesn't fully update actually it's totally messed up |
| 04:53.32 | cladhaire | ? |
| 04:53.36 | Tem | oh, maybe I can help you there. I've done a LOT of work with the TradeSkillFrame |
| 04:53.58 | cladhaire | which frame, and what chance? |
| 04:53.59 | Miravlix | TradeSkill, QuestLog, Trainer, Craft they all ahve this annoying crap |
| 04:54.03 | KarlKFI | mira's writing your competition |
| 04:54.05 | cladhaire | oh |
| 04:54.30 | Tem | Miravlix: what are you working on? |
| 04:54.33 | Miravlix | I set a filter, on the show event |
| 04:54.44 | Miravlix | Then the filter list shows all and my filter being set |
| 04:55.01 | Miravlix | Even while I used the exclusive setting in the API call |
| 04:55.04 | Miravlix | and it doesn't update |
| 04:55.19 | Miravlix | The user wont see it with the new filter until I close, open, close open |
| 04:55.28 | Tem | are you trying to do what this addon does? |
| 04:55.28 | Tem | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?s=&id=4117 |
| 04:55.30 | KarlKFI | do it back to back |
| 04:56.04 | KarlKFI | dota time |
| 04:56.15 | cladhaire | *cheer* |
| 04:56.26 | cladhaire | i'm running guildies through uldaman, then bed. |
| 04:56.28 | Miravlix | No |
| 04:56.32 | cladhaire | dota would be a nice break |
| 04:56.34 | KarlKFI | they keep making new versions i keep playing |
| 04:56.53 | Miravlix | All I'm doing is saving the normal tradeskill frames, expanded/collapsed state of headers, the current selection, the filter settings |
| 04:57.03 | Tem | oooh |
| 04:57.07 | Miravlix | And try to restore it next time it's opened |
| 04:57.16 | cladhaire | I prefer Enfos.. its just.. fun |
| 04:57.38 | Tem | what you need to do to update the TSF is call TradeSkillFrame_Update |
| 04:57.40 | KarlKFI | too short and busy |
| 04:57.45 | cladhaire | but they're so different... its fun =) |
| 04:57.48 | Miravlix | I call that |
| 04:57.49 | KarlKFI | true |
| 04:57.59 | Miravlix | it doesn't fully update |
| 04:57.59 | cladhaire | KarlKFI: Doesn't have to be =) |
| 04:58.03 | cladhaire | nightmare rocks |
| 04:58.07 | cladhaire | difficluyt that is. |
| 04:58.13 | Tem | though, I would have thought changing the filter would have triggered a TRADE_SKILL_UPDATE event |
| 04:58.20 | Miravlix | I also save/restore the scrollbar |
| 04:58.44 | Miravlix | Oh yes |
| 04:58.49 | Tem | actually, I /know/ that calling ExpandTradeSkillSubClass updates the list |
| 04:58.56 | Miravlix | My code has to make sure it isn't called while it's being called |
| 04:59.20 | Miravlix | Because when I use the API to set stuff events is generated so my code runs |
| 04:59.31 | Miravlix | Had to setup a mutex to get it running nicely |
| 04:59.41 | MentalPower | random question: whats the possibility that the 1.10 patch will go live this tuesday? |
| 04:59.51 | Tem | pretty high I'd say |
| 04:59.56 | Cairenn | 50/50 |
| 05:00.16 | Miravlix | We have no real information to base a assumption on |
| 05:00.28 | Tem | mine is based on 2 things |
| 05:00.29 | MentalPower | well the contests end this monday |
| 05:00.30 | Cairenn | it *can* go live as the "contest" finishes monday |
| 05:00.45 | Miravlix | For all we know it could have been released last week |
| 05:00.45 | Tem | it's been 2 weeks since the last patch to the test realm afaik |
| 05:00.50 | Cairenn | but they *typically* have it on test for a solid week after a patch |
| 05:00.59 | Cairenn | Tem: no, patch yesterday |
| 05:01.00 | Tem | and 2, the contest realms close on monday |
| 05:01.03 | Tem | on? |
| 05:01.04 | Tem | oh*? |
| 05:01.08 | Cairenn | yup |
| 05:01.19 | Tem | ah, then my vote changes to pretty slim |
| 05:01.27 | Cairenn | so on the one hand, maybe, but on the other ... |
| 05:01.52 | Tem | I'm gonna put my vote on 'no' |
| 05:01.58 | Miravlix | It's here when it's here |
| 05:02.13 | Tem | I'm hoping for later rather than sooner |
| 05:02.18 | Tem | I'm so not ready for it |
| 05:02.27 | Miravlix | Though I'm looking forward to the new self cast flag in CastSpell API's |
| 05:02.39 | Tem | I've got a lot of stuff I want ready before it goes live |
| 05:02.40 | Miravlix | I'm ready for 1.10! |
| 05:02.54 | Tem | s/ready/coded and tested/ |
| 05:03.37 | Miravlix | Due to 1.10 incompatibilities, or do you code for the changed api to be ready at launch day? |
| 05:06.10 | Miravlix | BTW: Tem: That addons solution is better, it solves having to deal with Blizzards crap |
| 05:06.19 | Miravlix | Just like PartyQuest makes it's own frame. |
| 05:06.30 | Tem | FTS no long makes it's own frame |
| 05:06.35 | Tem | it hijacks the TSF |
| 05:06.36 | Cairenn | *not* coding to have the changed api ready at launch day (where possible) makes Cairenn cry |
| 05:06.47 | Tem | I'm working on a frame creation library for 1.10 |
| 05:06.52 | Miravlix | It's still your own frame after you have gutted Blizzards |
| 05:06.54 | Tem | and I'm barely past the base |
| 05:07.15 | Tem | Basically I hook TradeSkillFrame_Update to change what it shows |
| 05:07.27 | Miravlix | You rip out Blizzards code and do it better |
| 05:07.44 | Tem | heh, I wouldn't always call it better |
| 05:07.56 | Cairenn | I wish more authors would get in the habit of releasing *before* the patch goes live (after it's been frozen on Test), it'd make it so much easier on everyone come patch day |
| 05:08.00 | Miravlix | It's, those frames with there API's suck |
| 05:08.12 | Tem | I like your idea though |
| 05:08.15 | cladhaire | Cairenn: We dont't trust the test server, or didn't get sufficient time. |
| 05:08.33 | cladhaire | personally |
| 05:08.39 | Cairenn | I did say where possible |
| 05:08.42 | Tem | I trust the test realm |
| 05:08.45 | Tem | I just never have time |
| 05:08.51 | Miravlix | Tem: If you switch from First Aid to Engineering you loss your First Aid settings, thats the only thing I want to solve |
| 05:09.01 | Tem | hmm |
| 05:09.07 | Miravlix | That it also saves it between sessions is just an added bonus |
| 05:09.52 | cladhaire | i can never get consistent time on there.. or a proper test env |
| 05:09.57 | cladhaire | concerns me. |
| 05:10.01 | cladhaire | and then other times, i'm fine. |
| 05:10.09 | cladhaire | i think i shipped wd with 10100 versino =) |
| 05:12.39 | Tem | Ok, next challenge |
| 05:12.58 | Tem | deciding if the url given is a good url on it's own or if it needs a context |
| 05:13.25 | Tem | I wonder if having "//" somewhere in the name counts |
| 05:13.36 | Kolth | Nope! |
| 05:13.49 | Tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:14.00 | Kolth | It's really hard to do perfectly. |
| 05:14.33 | Miravlix | http://wow.pastebin.com/622741 <- thats the current code. |
| 05:16.22 | Miravlix | The code is so simple it hurts that it's so hard to make it work well. |
| 05:22.03 | Miravlix | It's selected Smelt Tin, it's read the settings, but it's still showing Smelt Mithril |
| 05:22.38 | Miravlix | In the overview window, no matter how many times I call tradeskill_update it doesn't reset it self to the new configuration |
| 05:23.38 | Wobin_ | anyone know Blizzard's stance on the sac/res for 'locks? |
| 05:23.49 | Wobin_ | (or sac/jumpercables even as I've seen) |
| 05:24.48 | Miravlix | Because I have to call TradeSkillFrame_Show() |
| 05:25.45 | Miravlix | Offcourse Tradeskill_show resets the scrollbar, so I have to write my own. :p |
| 05:26.03 | Miravlix | Sacrifice? |
| 05:26.14 | Miravlix | You get out of combat after a sacrifice? |
| 05:26.46 | Wobin_ | nono |
| 05:26.49 | Wobin_ | Demonic Sacrifice |
| 05:27.08 | Wobin_ | Then either a priest resses your demon, or you jumpercable them |
| 05:27.19 | Wobin_ | You end up with both sac buff, and any MD buff |
| 05:27.37 | Miravlix | Sounds fine |
| 05:27.41 | Wobin_ | Technically, the sac skills says "until you summon a new demon" |
| 05:28.19 | Miravlix | s/s fine/like a fine bug/ |
| 05:28.26 | cladhaire | lol |
| 05:29.21 | Cairenn | rule of thumb I was always told: if you have to ask whether it is "okay" or not, chances are you don't need to ask ... |
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| 05:31.06 | Miravlix | Clearly the re aquiring of a pet should remove the buff. |
| 05:31.38 | dukeku | is it okay to jam my fingers in a few random eyes? |
| 05:32.16 | Cairenn | uh oh |
| 05:32.30 | Miravlix | Yes, my chield, that way they learn to keep there eyes to themself. |
| 05:33.28 | MentalPower | gnight my friends |
| 05:33.30 | cladhaire | the triggering of a MD buff should remove any sac buff. |
| 05:33.34 | Cairenn | night MentalPower |
| 05:39.26 | Cairenn | night all |
| 05:39.35 | Miravlix | Goodnight sleepers |
| 05:41.42 | cladhaire | night all =) |
| 05:57.03 | Tem | finaly! |
| 05:57.08 | Tem | I win! |
| 05:57.16 | Tem | the last 4 hours haven't been wasted |
| 05:57.21 | Kolth | grats! |
| 05:58.18 | Miravlix | Yes! it works! |
| 05:58.19 | Tem | http://wow.pastebin.com/622765 |
| 05:58.40 | Tem | getting those 2 lines of code has litterally taken me nearly 4 hours |
| 05:59.24 | Tem | meanwhile the rest of the project is almost done with less than 6 hours of total time spent |
| 05:59.35 | Kirov | holy crap |
| 05:59.56 | Tem | what's your "holy crap" in reference to? |
| 06:00.07 | Tem | that O |
| 06:00.18 | Kirov | "(?i)<a\\s*(?:[^>\"]*|\"[^\"]*\")*href=(\"[^\"]*\"|[^\\s>]*)(?:[^>\"]*|\"[^\"]*\")*>" |
| 06:00.36 | Tem | well.. there is a reason it took me a longass time to get it to work |
| 06:00.41 | Miravlix | Now I've learned to save and restore scrollsbars, I better update Sky so it knows how to do it too. |
| 06:01.39 | Miravlix | Or maybe not, since I'm to tired to remember what addon I ahve to modify |
| 06:01.53 | Tem | Kirov: that pattern is supposed to match any link with an href= in it |
| 06:02.01 | Tem | and spit out what's after the href= |
| 06:03.30 | Tem | now I have to figure out a way to intelligently handle those links |
| 06:03.45 | Kirov | what's this for? |
| 06:03.56 | Tem | assignment |
| 06:04.03 | Tem | it's a simple search machine |
| 06:04.12 | Kirov | ah |
| 06:04.13 | Tem | s/machine/engine/ |
| 06:04.30 | Tem | I don't think it was meant to be this difficult |
| 06:05.17 | Miravlix | Parsers is the most fun and difficult part of codeing. |
| 06:05.19 | Tem | which is why the due date was postponed |
| 06:05.30 | Tem | I /hate/ parsing |
| 06:05.39 | Miravlix | I love it. :) |
| 06:05.52 | Tem | Regex is awesome, but it's a pain to work with |
| 06:06.50 | Tem | ug, I'm suck of this. I'm gonna go gank some things on my rogue to relieve stress |
| 06:07.19 | Tem | s/suck/sick/ |
| 06:07.58 | Miravlix | Well I write my own parsers |
| 06:08.28 | Miravlix | But I guess regex is a parser engine, to reduce the stress of writing them, never liked regex though. |
| 06:19.56 | GenNMX|Thrae | regex was made to be standardized in Java because a) You can do it much faster natively and b) Java is all about standardization. |
| 06:20.41 | Kolth | And regex is easier to use! |
| 06:20.56 | GenNMX|Thrae | Kolth: Sure it is ;) |
| 06:21.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | Saying regex is "easier to use" is like saying a rocket scientist finds building rockets easier then building cars. |
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| 06:28.04 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Mod Dev Discussions: Keep smiling! It makes people wonder what you are up to... |
| 06:37.06 | Miravlix | That just make switching between tradeskill frames, a lot less annoying, and it even remembers it between game sessions. |
| 06:38.11 | Miravlix | So now it need Khaos support for configuration and a name. |
| 07:11.48 | GenNMX|Thrae | ssh -C -g -L 5910:amd64xp:5900 192.168.1.59 -p 8026 -l "Power User" |
| 07:11.58 | GenNMX|Thrae | Wrong console widnow |
| 07:39.58 | GenNMX|Thrae | Ahhh, VNC'ing to the Windows machine on LCD #1, IRC channels on LCD #2, and using a PByP option for 24" LCD #3 to watch TV and play PS2 at the same time. It doesn't get any better then this. |
| 07:40.34 | Kolth | nice |
| 07:44.29 | GenNMX|Thrae | I should use my laptop in some way just because I can. |
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| 09:44.41 | Shouryuu | rawr and so forth |
| 09:49.01 | Miravlix | I hate mornings |
| 09:49.10 | Miravlix | Especially when they arive before I sleep |
| 09:50.22 | Miravlix | Oh, well, was a productive codeing night though. |
| 09:51.06 | Shouryuu | lol you people are freaks |
| 09:51.43 | Miravlix | Actually your the freak, we are normal |
| 09:51.59 | Shouryuu | =P |
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| 09:59.32 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge is Mod Dev Discussions: Keep smiling! It makes people wonder what you are up to... |
| 10:20.58 | Wobin_ | One button to find them |
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| 10:21.59 | Elkano | good (whatever) :) |
| 10:22.11 | Wobin_ | grief! |
| 10:25.05 | Elkano | btw: curse down? or simply a problem at my place? |
| 10:27.46 | Kolth | down |
| 10:51.23 | Shouryuu | I r exhausted |
| 10:52.29 | Kolth | :| |
| 11:09.56 | Wobin_ | (+121 hp) |
| 11:09.59 | Wobin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.34 | Wobin_ | (Sorry, there was major lag in the sct =P) |
| 11:11.09 | Shouryuu | w00t |
| 11:26.20 | Wobin_ | Bugger. It's sunday |
| 11:26.28 | Wobin_ | I hoped it was Saturday |
| 11:36.46 | L|Elviso | wobin you ever get that pattern worked out? |
| 11:38.06 | Wobin_ | Alas no |
| 11:38.17 | Wobin_ | I went about it in a different fashion instead |
| 11:39.21 | Wobin_ | have a table of matchable spell names as keys then as you go through the spellbook, look for that key and return the match if the key exists |
| 11:39.50 | Wobin_ | which overall would be a nicer way of setting it out than a complex regexp for certain phrases |
| 11:40.14 | L|Elviso | true, probably easier to maintain |
| 12:17.30 | Shouryuu | why am I downloading at 4.5kb/s whileI'm connected to more than 50peers... |
| 12:17.42 | Shouryuu | my intranet is going to drive me nuts |
| 12:17.54 | Shouryuu | s/intranet/internet/ |
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| 12:48.21 | Wobin_ | Anyone having issues on wowwiki? |
| 12:56.47 | L|Elviso | connection refused here |
| 12:56.56 | Wobin_ | Alas |
| 12:57.58 | L|Elviso | might be doing a restart or backing up or something |
| 14:38.36 | Cairenn | morning |
| 14:38.51 | Wobin_ | morning Cair |
| 14:39.06 | Cairenn | how are you Wobin_? |
| 14:40.15 | Wobin_ | Not to bad =) waving a stick threateningly at WowWiki in the hopes that it comes back up tonight... |
| 14:40.20 | Cairenn | heh |
| 14:41.38 | [MoonWolf] | Maybe we threaten it with tacticle nukes. |
| 14:42.02 | Wobin_ | No point in threats you don't back up. |
| 14:42.09 | Wobin_ | I've actually got a stick here I'm waving. |
| 14:42.37 | Cairenn | have you tried sweet-talking it yet? you catch more flies with honey than vinegar ... |
| 14:42.58 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 14:45.00 | Cairenn | how long has it been down? |
| 14:45.57 | Wobin_ | hm |
| 14:46.13 | Wobin_ | couple of hours now? |
| 14:46.14 | Cairenn | well, since you've noticed, I mean :p |
| 14:46.20 | Cairenn | oh |
| 14:46.22 | Cairenn | oh dear |
| 14:46.26 | Cairenn | that's not good at all |
| 15:18.12 | L|Elviso | DNS looks fine, site's pingable, it simply isn't responding to requests |
| 15:18.45 | L|Elviso | smells like something needs to be rebooted/restarted! |
| 15:18.53 | L|Elviso | anyways, nap time for me |
| 15:19.07 | Cairenn | have a nice nap |
| 15:19.12 | L|Elviso | ty much :) |
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| 15:19.40 | Nomad_Wanderer | Hey Guys.. |
| 15:19.45 | Cairenn | hey Nomad_Wanderer |
| 15:19.52 | Nomad_Wanderer | Can you recommend a Buff Frame Manager? |
| 15:20.09 | Nomad_Wanderer | I have the simple move the buffs around, or stack vertical, but want more flexibility |
| 15:20.41 | Nomad_Wanderer | Like being able to say how many max items in a row before starting a new row. |
| 15:20.59 | Cairenn | I don't know that there is one like that ... |
| 15:21.17 | Nomad_Wanderer | Yeah.. I didn't see one on WowI or UI.Worldofwar |
| 15:22.59 | Cairenn | and you can't check CG because it's down ... |
| 15:23.18 | Cairenn | (which is really odd, not like there's a patch today or anything) |
| 15:30.01 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 15:30.56 | wereHamster | ui.. the news here: http://news.netcraft.com/ |
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| 15:32.16 | wereHamster | not that I bother.. here in europe the servers are running fine :) |
| 16:21.54 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=342610&p=1&tmp=1#post342610 |
| 16:22.38 | Wobin_ | dear god. Palm Desktop is 42M |
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| 16:49.08 | Osagasu | :O |
| 16:55.19 | Shouryuu | lol tokyo Godfather is a good movie |
| 17:02.45 | Shouryuu | I'm bored and depressed |
| 17:02.51 | Shouryuu | life is utterly uncool right now |
| 17:03.13 | Wobin_ | http://cdc.comicgen.com/d/20000803.html |
| 17:03.45 | Shouryuu | that better be something cheerful and amusing |
| 17:06.37 | Shouryuu | I don't know what to do about my internet connection |
| 17:07.06 | Shouryuu | Somehow, I have to explain to them that I'm downloading at shit speed. But since download isn't quite that legal, welllllll... |
| 17:10.28 | Osagasu | Well downloading can't be illegal, else you wouldn't have a net connection |
| 17:10.36 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:11.32 | Shouryuu | annnd there goes the good ol "connection timmed out".. w00t |
| 17:13.50 | Shouryuu | If I get a "Request timed out" message when pinging my router, that doesn't have to mean my router is the source of my problems right? If my ISP is serving me **** then my router will route **** as well |
| 17:16.47 | Tain | You should always get a good connection to your router though, even if it's not connected to your ISP at all. |
| 17:17.06 | Shouryuu | so my router is my problem? |
| 17:22.56 | Tain | I would actually think so, although I suppose it could be the network card in your computer, or the cabling. But not getting a ping response from your PC to your router means likely one of those. |
| 17:25.38 | Shouryuu | Huummm... Might be my network card since I've had this problem before, on another connection, but using the same router... |
| 17:25.48 | Shouryuu | same model that is |
| 17:28.30 | Shouryuu | What I hate about the internet is how the only help you can find about it, is on the internet. So if your internet isn't working, well good luck :P |
| 17:29.44 | Tain | heheh |
| 17:32.14 | Osagasu | Are you pinging 127.0.0.1? or your normal IP address? >.> |
| 17:32.26 | Shouryuu | 0.0.1 |
| 17:32.43 | Shouryuu | the address I put into my browser to configure my router |
| 17:33.05 | Shouryuu | If I were pinging myself shouldn't I always get a response? |
| 17:33.06 | Osagasu | well 127.0.0.1 goes out to the ISP |
| 17:33.17 | Osagasu | then back to you |
| 17:33.22 | Shouryuu | ah |
| 17:33.29 | Osagasu | your router should have its own internal IP |
| 17:33.47 | Shouryuu | ah ok |
| 17:34.04 | Shouryuu | thanks :P |
| 17:34.29 | Osagasu | for example, my IP is 64.53.90.109. If I ping it or 127.0.0.1, It sends info out to the ISP |
| 17:34.41 | Shouryuu | Now I have a better way to explain things than "When illegaly downloading files, I usualy have a very slow uL/dL speed. Could you fix that?" |
| 17:35.13 | Osagasu | but my Router's internal IP address is 192.168.1.1, if I ping IT, then it just goes to the router and back |
| 17:36.01 | Tain | What no no if you ping 127.0.0.1 it does not go out to your ispn. |
| 17:36.11 | Shouryuu | I;m lost |
| 17:36.35 | Tain | If you're pinging 127.0.0.1 and you get timeout errors then it's your PC/network card. |
| 17:37.04 | Shouryuu | No I misunderstoood Osagu's first question, pinging 127.0.0.1 works fine |
| 17:37.12 | Tain | Oh ok! |
| 17:37.19 | Shouryuu | ping 198.162.1.1 doesn't |
| 17:37.30 | JoshBorke | flying breaks mind vision :-( |
| 17:37.35 | Shouryuu | awww |
| 17:37.53 | Tain | I'd put my bet on the router having an issue, but it could still be your PC's network card, or even loose cabling. |
| 17:37.56 | Osagasu | err, not all routers have 192.168.1.1 |
| 17:38.14 | Shouryuu | aye I know |
| 17:38.44 | wereHamster | Tain, doesn't 192.0.0.1 go over the loopback device? AFAIK this network interface is always up.. |
| 17:38.49 | Shouryuu | Well I'm on a wireless conection so I guess cable is not the problem :P |
| 17:39.06 | Tain | You're wireless? Yeesh that's a whole other issue. |
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| 17:39.16 | Shouryuu | awwwww |
| 17:39.31 | cladhaire | morning |
| 17:39.38 | JoshBorke | morning |
| 17:39.38 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.42 | Tain | That's the most likely issue is a weak wireless connection. |
| 17:39.45 | Shouryuu | the awwww wasn't for you, no worries :P |
| 17:39.47 | Tain | Especially if it's intermittent. |
| 17:40.00 | Shouryuu | well my connection says I have an "Excellent" connectability |
| 17:40.13 | Tain | Uh huh and Bill and Ted had an Excellent adventure. |
| 17:40.26 | Tain | Do you believe them? |
| 17:40.26 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:41.01 | Shouryuu | Well I've downloaded at 1MB/s from where I am right now, so I doubt the signal is the problem |
| 17:41.09 | Shouryuu | I must be 6meters away from my router |
| 17:41.20 | Tain | In that case plug a cable in. hehe |
| 17:41.31 | Shouryuu | lol |
| 17:41.53 | Shouryuu | I'd do that, but sadly enough the people I live with won't =( |
| 17:42.05 | Osagasu | hrm |
| 17:42.39 | Osagasu | o.O |
| 17:42.45 | Osagasu | this is odd |
| 17:43.04 | Osagasu | Shour, are you in france? >.> |
| 17:43.11 | Shouryuu | yes :P |
| 17:43.50 | Shouryuu | watching the Faces of WoW? |
| 17:43.53 | Osagasu | All conversations I've ever had with you suddenly become clearer. >.> |
| 17:43.57 | Osagasu | no |
| 17:44.03 | Shouryuu | lol why? |
| 17:44.25 | Osagasu | I did a reverse DNS on your mask |
| 17:44.38 | Shouryuu | makes no sens to me but I believe you |
| 17:46.38 | JoshBorke | what's the problem? |
| 17:46.50 | Osagasu | well I just pinged the IP it said you were at, but meh |
| 17:46.58 | Osagasu | no idea if it were real |
| 17:48.21 | JoshBorke | even if you have excellent wireless connectivity it can still drop out due to weird interactions between the router and the wireless card |
| 17:48.46 | Osagasu | It happens all the time on campus |
| 17:48.49 | JoshBorke | and no, you wouldn't always be able to ping yourself if you are running windows and have the firewall enabled (in xp sp2) |
| 17:49.19 | Shouryuu | I don't have SP2 |
| 17:50.50 | JoshBorke | what happens when you connect with a wire to your router? |
| 17:51.06 | Shouryuu | haven't tried yet |
| 17:52.06 | Osagasu | I always stay wired at home |
| 17:54.32 | Osagasu | Wired is better when you transfer files to and from a remote backup computer almost daily |
| 17:55.05 | Legorol | if you are connected to the Internet via a router, which provides NAT service, and your computers themselves have private IP addresses, they are unpingable |
| 17:57.09 | Legorol | whoever said that pinging 127.0.0.1 goes out to the ISP was wrong |
| 17:57.50 | Legorol | if you ping 127.0.0.1 in Windows, it doesn't even physically leave the machine |
| 17:57.50 | Legorol | and it's not supposed to |
| 17:57.50 | Shouryuu | I got return times <to 1ms so it makes sens |
| 17:58.00 | Legorol | also, you should always be able to ping your router from inside your network |
| 17:58.08 | Legorol | the only exception is if the router is equipped with a firewall, |
| 17:58.23 | Legorol | and it's configured to reject ping packets both from the outside and the inside |
| 17:58.38 | Legorol | it can also depend on *which* of the two addresses a router has you are trying to ping |
| 17:59.21 | Shouryuu | ugh I'm lost :P All I know is that pinging 192.168.2.1 doesn't work. That is the address I put into my web browser to configure my router |
| 18:01.05 | Legorol | ok, if you give me some more details (i.e. willing to answer some questions), i might be able to help |
| 18:01.28 | Legorol | what type of net connection do you have? DSL, ADSL, cable? |
| 18:01.40 | Shouryuu | ADSL I think |
| 18:01.44 | Legorol | from what you said, i surmise your net-connection comes to a router |
| 18:01.55 | Shouryuu | aye |
| 18:01.58 | Legorol | do you know what capabilities the router has? |
| 18:02.08 | Legorol | is it a mixed wired/wireless router? |
| 18:02.16 | Shouryuu | Yeah |
| 18:02.19 | Legorol | does it have an in-built firewall? |
| 18:02.38 | Shouryuu | Don't think so |
| 18:02.52 | Legorol | ok, what is the IP address you need to type into your web-browser to configure the router? |
| 18:03.01 | Shouryuu | 192.168.2.1 |
| 18:03.08 | Legorol | are you sure? it's not 192.168.0.1? |
| 18:03.14 | Shouryuu | sure |
| 18:03.16 | Legorol | ok |
| 18:03.21 | Legorol | how do you know that's the IP address you need? |
| 18:03.25 | Legorol | does the router's manual tell you? |
| 18:03.33 | Legorol | i know the question may not make sense, but please answer it |
| 18:03.37 | Shouryuu | Nay |
| 18:04.02 | Shouryuu | I don't know that's the IP I need, I just guessed (wrong apparently)=( |
| 18:04.24 | Legorol | if the router's configuration interface does come up in your webbrowser, you must have guessed right |
| 18:04.45 | Legorol | ok, in Windows, |
| 18:04.50 | Legorol | how did you configure your network card? |
| 18:04.59 | Legorol | is it set to automatically obtain IP address, or did you manually type one in? |
| 18:05.13 | Shouryuu | it automatically obtains it |
| 18:05.30 | Legorol | ok, the machine you are currently experimenting with.. is it connected to the router via wire, or wireless? |
| 18:05.37 | Shouryuu | wireless |
| 18:05.48 | Legorol | ok, open a command prompt |
| 18:05.52 | Legorol | type ipconfig /all |
| 18:05.59 | Legorol | copy/paste the response on pastebin |
| 18:06.42 | Shouryuu | let's hope pastebin loads :P |
| 18:06.49 | Legorol | lol, good point |
| 18:06.54 | Legorol | you can just copy the info manually :D |
| 18:07.01 | Legorol | or into IRC |
| 18:07.04 | Legorol | in a PM if you like |
| 18:07.22 | Legorol | are you currently runing this IRC conversation from the machine in question? |
| 18:07.27 | Shouryuu | yeah |
| 18:07.41 | Legorol | so you do have net connectivity |
| 18:07.43 | Legorol | that's good :-) |
| 18:09.18 | JoshBorke | heh |
| 18:09.19 | JoshBorke | oops |
| 18:10.18 | Legorol | my guess is he tried to paste me some text :D |
| 18:11.59 | JoshBorke | indeed |
| 18:12.06 | JoshBorke | he probably has 2 network connections |
| 18:12.16 | JoshBorke | with the wireless one having quite a bit of information |
| 18:13.25 | Legorol | according to what he was saying, he has trouble pinging the router from within the network |
| 18:13.31 | Legorol | that can't be right, no matter what the load on the network is |
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| 18:27.36 | JoshBorke | wb Shouryuu |
| 18:27.39 | Cairenn | hey Iriel |
| 18:27.43 | JoshBorke | hello iriel |
| 18:27.47 | Iriel | Morning all |
| 18:28.26 | Shouryuu | morning |
| 18:28.29 | Shouryuu | and wb? |
| 18:28.33 | Shouryuu | ~wb |
| 18:28.35 | purl | thx |
| 18:28.40 | Shouryuu | welcome back |
| 18:29.31 | JoshBorke | my stupid campus IT group can't keep our routers up :-( |
| 18:34.37 | Shouryuu | Me voy loco |
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| 18:36.46 | Shouryuu | Me voy menos loco |
| 18:37.57 | Tain | What did you just say about my mom? |
| 18:38.52 | Shouryuu | :P |
| 18:39.21 | Legorol | he said your mum's cooking is nice |
| 18:39.51 | Shouryuu | exactly |
| 18:50.38 | Tain | That's a filthy lie! |
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| 19:15.53 | shouryuu|Food | Lie? When? How? |
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| 19:26.10 | MentalPower | is the Wiki down? |
| 19:26.38 | shouryuu|Food | Heard so yes |
| 19:27.48 | Cairenn | been down all day apparently |
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| 19:29.36 | Miravlix | Cosmosui.org too, disappered over 9 hours ago. |
| 19:30.16 | shouryuu|Food | blame blizzard |
| 19:30.26 | shouryuu|Food | usualy works |
| 19:31.20 | Cairenn | Curse down too |
| 19:31.38 | Cairenn | maybe they are all having the same problem that Blizz is having? |
| 19:31.41 | Iriel | MP: Need something in particular? |
| 19:31.53 | Iriel | the cosmos sites die periodically, I've never been sure why |
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| 19:33.15 | Miravlix | It's all my fault, I hit post with a long forum submission and all the servers crashed |
| 19:34.15 | MentalPower | Iriel: well I was looking for the FauxScrollFrame tutorial |
| 19:34.41 | Iriel | MP: Ah, I dont have that mirrored |
| 19:35.09 | Miravlix | You have to do faux and SetValue SetMinMaxValue |
| 19:35.35 | MentalPower | I'll check later |
| 19:35.37 | Miravlix | Those scroll bars is really annoying to work with because there is 3 values to work with them |
| 19:40.49 | Iriel | It's a bit sad that a quest dependency bug in the early undead quest set is STILL not fixed. |
| 19:42.22 | JoshBorke | maybe i've stabilised? |
| 19:45.36 | Miravlix | What but it that? |
| 19:45.53 | Miravlix | s/but/bug/ |
| 19:46.21 | Iriel | There's one where the apothecary at Sepulcher asks you to take some samples you'd given him back to the Undercity |
| 19:46.32 | Iriel | But you can get the quest BEFORE you've handed him the samples in the first place |
| 19:52.31 | Shouryuu | I r le bored |
| 19:58.01 | Tain | I'm dungeoning. |
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| 20:05.41 | GenNMX|Thrae | Tain: "Spelunking" ;) |
| 20:06.39 | GenNMX|Thrae | That's what someone should do, someone go to The Barrens and yell "Anyone want to go spelunking with me in the Wailing Caverns?" and here all the responses, "Not on the first date!" |
| 20:06.57 | GenNMX|Thrae | s/here/hear/. |
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| 20:07.52 | Miravlix | Does it really matter what you say in barrens chat? Wont it always be sucky sucky 5 dolla responses? |
| 20:08.11 | GenNMX|Thrae | Yeah, that was a bad example. |
| 20:08.20 | GenNMX|Thrae | The point is, people will probably think "spelunking" is a naughty word ;) |
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| 20:36.08 | Shouryuu | OMG!! He said S********!! |
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| 20:41.05 | Shouryuu | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.50 | wereHamster | Shouryuu, are you a priest? |
| 20:45.08 | Shouryuu | yes |
| 20:45.18 | dukeku | hahahahahahahah |
| 20:45.53 | wereHamster | our guild gives such things to whoever wants it.. all out priests and hunters have their epic bows/staffs |
| 20:45.58 | Shouryuu | this is bs as well right? "FYI you get more honor healing somebody then you would killing an enemy" |
| 20:46.09 | Shouryuu | yeah I guess that's apossibility' |
| 20:46.16 | Shouryuu | But I think he's unguilded |
| 20:46.46 | Shouryuu | and his response was "I equip what I want you c**** sucker, go s********* some place else", more or less |
| 20:46.59 | Shouryuu | he could have just said "no one needed it so I took it" |
| 20:47.07 | Shouryuu | and even, that can sell for 500-750g... |
| 20:47.14 | dukeku | my rogue has the leaf from domo, paladin has black sinew/tranq =/ |
| 20:47.20 | dukeku | still need an eye |
| 20:47.29 | Shouryuu | hehe |
| 20:47.33 | dukeku | too bad i can't equip any of em |
| 20:47.37 | Shouryuu | well if no one needed it it's understandable |
| 20:47.52 | dukeku | yea :P |
| 20:48.46 | wereHamster | we have a rogue who farms these eyes.. and sells them for 350g.. he gets ~3 per week.. and he farms alone |
| 20:49.07 | dukeku | i should try that |
| 21:09.30 | Tain | That's a George Thorogood song isn't it? I farm alone.. yeaaaah with nobody else. |
| 21:09.39 | Tain | You know when I farm alone... I prefer to be by myself! |
| 21:10.20 | Shouryuu | 0.o |
| 21:14.08 | dukeku | you mate alone |
| 21:14.28 | Shouryuu | ewwww |
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| 21:37.01 | Shouryuu | night folks |
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| 21:59.10 | Tem | ok... back to trying to figure this out |
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| 22:00.42 | Kirkburn | I'm just passing - has anyone tried Beta7 of ClearFont on the test server? I haven't had any website feedback yet :) (apart from Iriel) |
| 22:00.44 | Tem | Anyone know of any resources that would help here? I'm trying to determine if the string given in the href attribute of a link is a valid link on it's own or if it needs a context to make sense |
| 22:02.23 | Cide- | you're trying to validate a link? |
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| 22:05.36 | Tem | maybe? |
| 22:05.40 | Tem | what do you mean by validate? |
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| 22:07.49 | Tem | I need to programatically distinguish between links like "/forums/" that need the current page's context to be found and links like "http://www.google.com" which are ok on their own |
| 22:08.29 | Cide- | well |
| 22:08.35 | Cide- | validating a link would do that I guess |
| 22:08.44 | Cide- | what language? it'd be kinda hard in lua |
| 22:08.48 | Tem | Java |
| 22:09.11 | ForgottenLords | is there a stand alone mod that puts health and mana in the half circles around the character? I dont want to download a complete compilation just for the one mod |
| 22:09.20 | cladhaire | DHud |
| 22:09.36 | cladhaire | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=4506 |
| 22:10.08 | ForgottenLords | thanks |
| 22:10.46 | wereHamster | Tem, maybe ask in #java ? |
| 22:10.58 | Tem | that's a terrific idea |
| 22:11.00 | Tem | thanks |
| 22:11.35 | wereHamster | they didn't help you there, did they? |
| 22:11.50 | Tem | I fogot it was here actually |
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| 22:12.02 | Cide | ok |
| 22:12.18 | Cide | err, my bad, wrong regexp |
| 22:12.27 | Cide | #(^|[\n ])([\w]+?://[\w\#$%&~/.\-;:=,?@\[\]+]*)#is |
| 22:12.28 | Cide | there you go |
| 22:12.45 | Cairenn | ForgottenLords: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3760 |
| 22:12.49 | Cairenn | pick one, any one |
| 22:13.04 | cladhaire | lol Cair wins as always |
| 22:13.57 | Cide | hm? |
| 22:13.59 | Cide | can you see this |
| 22:14.18 | Cairenn | cladhaire: nope, I didn't make the thread |
| 22:15.13 | Tem | Cide: what is the regexp for? |
| 22:15.25 | Cide | that matches all valid links (pretty much) |
| 22:15.40 | Tem | I love you |
| 22:16.00 | Cide | "#" and "#is" aren't part of the actual regexp |
| 22:16.03 | Tem | aye |
| 22:16.14 | Cide | ok, so you know :) |
| 22:17.08 | ckknight | how do I get the name of someone's pet? |
| 22:17.11 | Tem | oh hell, that's now quite valid |
| 22:17.13 | ckknight | a party member's |
| 22:17.17 | Cide | UnitName("party1pet") |
| 22:17.35 | ckknight | hrm, okay |
| 22:17.52 | Cide | Tem: that doesn't match "www.google.com" though |
| 22:18.02 | Tem | it's not supposed to though |
| 22:18.08 | Cide | ok, very well then |
| 22:18.14 | Cide | I have another one that does that if you need it, hehe |
| 22:18.35 | Tem | well, that one isn't quite valid for java so I'm trying to find the spots I need to change |
| 22:18.49 | Cide | #(^|[\n ])((www|ftp)\.[\w\#$%&~/.\-;:=,?@\[\]+]*)#is is for "www.google.com" and such if you want it |
| 22:19.24 | Cide | I didn't write them myself so I'm not going to even pretend I did :) |
| 22:19.43 | Tem | anyplace you used a single "\" to start an escape sequence that is a regex escape sequence it needs to be \\ instead of just \ |
| 22:19.56 | Cide | simple enough |
| 22:20.06 | _aLF | may be out of topic : can't you URL(URL context, String spec) ? |
| 22:20.15 | ckknight | is wowwiki down for other people? |
| 22:20.40 | Cide | down for me |
| 22:21.03 | Cairenn | been down all day ckknight |
| 22:21.09 | Cairenn | along with curse gaming |
| 22:21.22 | ckknight | okay, how do I check if I'm in a party and if I'm in a raid? |
| 22:21.49 | ForgottenLords | Cairenn, do any of those HUDs on the list have a Spell Cast progression? that you know of? |
| 22:21.57 | Cairenn | dunno |
| 22:22.01 | ForgottenLords | ok |
| 22:22.11 | ForgottenLords | I shall play :) |
| 22:22.35 | Cairenn | I didn't make the list, I take neither credit nor blame for it ;) |
| 22:23.29 | Tem | yay! Thanks Cide |
| 22:23.40 | Tem | it totally works |
| 22:24.38 | Cide | glad it works |
| 22:32.35 | Shouryuu | ckknight: Try GetNumRaidMembers() and GetNumPartyMembers() |
| 22:32.46 | ckknight | already figured it out |
| 22:32.57 | Shouryuu | cool then :P |
| 22:33.02 | ckknight | Tem recommended UnitExists("party1") and UnitExists("raid1") |
| 22:33.22 | Shouryuu | ahh didn't see that |
| 22:33.37 | ckknight | ##ace |
| 22:33.44 | Shouryuu | ahhhh that's why |
| 22:34.11 | Tem | yay! |
| 22:34.27 | Tem | I sucessfully produced a list of valid URL objects to every link on a page |
| 22:35.59 | Tem | and since you all care, I'm going to share a story about my guild's Onyxia raids |
| 22:36.10 | ckknight | shoot |
| 22:36.25 | Tem | after each kill we have a lottery of sorts of the bag and head |
| 22:36.40 | Tem | the way it works is I hit a macro that looks something like this: |
| 22:37.11 | Tem | for i=1,GetNumRaidMembers() do SendChatMessage(i..": "..UnitName("raid"..i),"RAID") end |
| 22:37.35 | Tem | and the Masterlooter rolls 1-n where n = GetNumRaidMembers |
| 22:37.58 | Tem | since I'm always the one to hit that macro I'm /always/ "raid40" |
| 22:38.47 | ckknight | alright |
| 22:38.54 | Tem | last raid, I was the leader and masterlooter |
| 22:38.57 | Shouryuu | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnndddddddd |
| 22:39.04 | Tem | (the raid leader is always raid1) |
| 22:39.14 | Tem | so I hit the macro and rolled 1-40 |
| 22:39.25 | Tem | wanna guess what I rolled? |
| 22:39.58 | Tem | 1 |
| 22:39.59 | Shouryuu | 40? |
| 22:40.00 | ckknight | 40 |
| 22:40.03 | Shouryuu | awwww |
| 22:40.18 | Tem | but since I had hit the macro, my perspective trumped the raidleader spot |
| 22:40.21 | Tem | so I was still raid40 |
| 22:40.54 | ckknight | aw |
| 22:40.56 | Shouryuu | so you didn't win? |
| 22:40.57 | ckknight | damn, man |
| 22:41.09 | Tem | one day... one day |
| 22:41.29 | Shouryuu | :p |
| 22:41.36 | Shouryuu | fine |
| 22:41.42 | Shouryuu | I;m going to sleep |
| 22:41.48 | ckknight | Shouryuu, Your Major Huggles hits Tem for 203. |
| 22:41.56 | Shouryuslsleep | w00t |
| 22:42.46 | Tem | s/his/hit/ |
| 22:43.12 | Shouryuslsleep | s/shouryu/shouryuu |
| 22:43.21 | Tem | d'oh! |
| 22:43.31 | Shouryuu|sleep | don't worry, no one gets it right :P |
| 22:43.33 | Tem | it's your own fault |
| 22:43.45 | Tem | I used tab and deleted the excess stuff |
| 22:44.18 | Shouryuu|sleep | fine, blame me |
| 22:44.47 | Shouryuu|sleep | ok I'm really sleeping this time |
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| 23:28.49 | ckknight | gah, I need wowwiki to come back online |
| 23:29.13 | ckknight | I have a MessageFrame, anyone know how to make text fade from it? |
| 23:34.42 | Kirkburn | They really need to set up something to stop the spammers on wowwiki - half the changes they make are reversing spam damage |
| 23:35.06 | ckknight | hrm |
| 23:35.18 | Kirkburn | Hopefully that's not why it's down though |
| 23:37.01 | ckknight | I figured out the fade thing, btw |
| 23:39.42 | cladhaire | Is there any set of buttons ID's that aren't in use by the game currently? |
| 23:42.16 | GenNMX|Thrae | cladhaire: Maybe buttons above 120 |
| 23:43.00 | GenNMX|Thrae | If the class is not a Druid, Warrior, Rogue, or Hunter, you have a much wider selection |
| 23:43.30 | Kirkburn | Warlocks use a huge number too |
| 23:45.16 | Kirkburn | I think they do anyway. G'night all! |
| 23:45.21 | cladhaire | Hunters and Warlocks shoudn't use any extras |
| 23:45.40 | cladhaire | unless I'm mising something.. they don't ever shift bars. |
| 23:45.45 | cladhaire | like druids, warriors, rogues. |
| 23:45.54 | Kirkburn | Pet bars don't count? |
| 23:47.34 | cladhaire | Seperate bar.. PetActionButton1-10 |
| 23:57.04 | Miravlix | Is there any IRC clients with LUA as scripting language? |
| 23:57.49 | Miravlix | As a hunger I use 5 full bars and could use 2-3 more |
| 23:57.56 | Miravlix | hunter, even |