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00:06.12grollhmm wowwiki down?
00:06.25Cairennall day
00:06.31grolldoh
00:06.39grollu know the base crit by int for a shammy?
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00:37.10cladhaireMiravlix: Yeah, but that wasn't what I was talking about.  I was taling about which button ID's aren't used by the default bars =)
00:37.14cladhairebut I got what I needed,
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01:21.47ckknightShould I put my version of CritLine (which I'm calling Top Score) into BossPanel's Starter Pack?
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01:36.45CodayusOooh!  A bosspanel version of critline?  Glee!
01:37.01CodayusUh, as to your question, no idea.
01:42.26Cairennsure, why not?
01:42.30ckknightI'm gonna go with no, cause it's a gimmick
01:42.41ckknightit's a boasting plugin, it serves no real purpose
01:43.23AnduinLotharfun, but non-crucial
01:43.53ckknightright
01:47.25L|Elvisook in DAB, I somehow set one of my buttons to the same as another button
01:47.35L|Elvisoso now I can't change the spell in one w/o it changing the other..
01:47.42L|Elvisoanyone know what I'm doing wrong?
01:47.44TainIt's the button ID.
01:48.03TainYou can change the ID of a button to be other than its default.
01:48.32TainActionButton1 is by default ID 1, ActionButton99 is ID 99.  But change one to a different ID and it behaves exactly the same as another button with the same ID.
01:49.17AnduinLotharhttp://www.thinkgeek.com/books/humor/7ddf/
01:52.42L|Elvisohrmmm
01:52.51L|ElvisoI see what's wrong, but I dont see how to change a btns action ID
01:55.33TainI know you can in there somewhere.  I only looked at DAB briefly though, but I do remember that was an option.
01:55.59Ktronknockdowns suck soooo much
02:30.37ckknightokay, BossPanel - Top Score (CritLine clone) is now up for download
02:39.32Corrodiasanything interesting happen in the last week?
02:40.20Cairennnope
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04:24.35Fanookanyone remember what that code snippet website we use is?
04:24.43Fanookfor posting code for others to look at
04:24.54Cairennpastebin
04:25.34Fanookthx
04:25.44Cairennnp
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04:30.51Wobin_woohoo wowwiki is back
04:31.02Wobin_hurro all
04:32.54Cairennhey Wobin_ :)
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05:03.50Cairennhey hey futr-sleep! how ya doing?
05:06.23futr-sleephey there Cairenn, goodish, getting over a flu, too much scuba diving
05:06.32Cairennheh
05:07.47Cairennhow's the new job?
05:08.01Wobin_eugh. I don't even want to think about sinus problems when scuba diving =P
05:13.13futrtrubltiring, but fun, I get to dive every day....  when I'm not entering data, fixing computers, trying set back up the saltwater aquarium (that's kinda fun actually), scrubbing boat bottoms, cataloging our research collection, and giving tours to high school students
05:13.28Cairenncool
05:13.45Wobin_Sounds busy =)
05:14.15futrtrublfortunately, I stopped diving before I got symptoms
05:14.19futrtrublit is
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06:33.15L|ElvisoCan some macro pro help me w/this? :)
06:33.16L|Elvisohttp://wow.pastebin.com/624514
06:37.28Fanooktry this http://wow.pastebin.com/624519
06:39.33L|Elvisook sec
06:51.33L|Elvisohrmm it's too long, i'll have to try to use this supermacro
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06:53.47Fanooki was afraid of that
07:01.30KolthCTRaid has that macro builtin
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08:19.06Temson of a bitch
08:19.24TemI lost 15% on my assigment because I didn't read closely
08:19.33Temshort attention span ftl
08:19.44KolthThat doesn't soun dlike an attention span issue.
08:20.12[MoonWolf]Kolth, if you you have attention issues yes it does.
08:20.22KolthIt's just a lack of diligence.
08:20.32[MoonWolf]read assingment, think you know all of it, go do task because you get exited, forget reading rest.
08:20.36krka|workattention span issues really suck... i mean, it's like... wait, what was i talking about?
08:21.09KolthDon't confuse attention problems with lack of caring.
08:21.25[MoonWolf]you read the paper, and you attention goes to the project and how you want to do it instead of the rest of the paper... sound like an attention issue to me.
08:21.42KolthThe case you just gave isn't.
08:21.58[MoonWolf]explain it to me then.
08:22.12KolthYou'd obviously not be able to retain any of it.
08:23.04Temum, no
08:23.43Wobin_short attention span ~= short memory
08:24.09TemWhat happened was I read /most/ of the assignment
08:24.15Wobin_(And look! I refrained from using != (!))
08:24.39Temwent to work on it and forgot to go back and check it again
08:24.49KolthThat's lack of effort, no?
08:24.55Temso I provided all the functionality they wanted
08:25.11Temno, as a matter of fact, that offends me
08:25.19Wobin_Not really kolth. There was no lack of effort placed in the actual project
08:25.26KolthIt sounds like it.
08:25.34TemActually, I did MORE than they expected
08:25.36Wobin_Unfortunately the project was started on incomplete data
08:25.45Temexactly Wobin_
08:25.57Wobin_A lack of QA, maybe
08:26.07KolthAccountability is great.
08:26.13Tempsh, I tested of thell out of it
08:26.29Wobin_'effort' may just be too hot a buzzword for this case =P
08:26.34Tems/of/the/
08:26.39Wobin_hehe
08:26.45[MoonWolf]lol
08:27.09Temis anyone besides me confused and slightly angry?
08:27.29Wobin_I'm a bit irritated, but not overly confused
08:27.55[MoonWolf]yes, i dont get his attitude. especially "You'd obviously not be able to retain any of it." towards me had me looking at the screen mouth wide open, wat did i do ?
08:28.12Temindeed [MoonWolf]
08:28.29Wobin_Except I can't come up with an argument that isn't "Saying "A lack of effort" implies that there was a lack of effort...which there wasn't" =P
08:29.24Temug, I better finish the current project
08:29.41Temit's due in 21 hours
08:29.51[MoonWolf]i have made Tem mistake many times myself, and I think that if you have attention problems it may very well be related to it.
08:29.54Wobin_goodluck!
08:29.57Tems/21/21.5/
08:30.17Tem(midnight my time tomorrow)
08:31.45Temthanks
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09:24.03krka|workomg hilarious: http://qdb.us/56136
09:24.29Corrodiashttp://dat.4chan.org/b/src/1143449739993.jpg
09:24.41Corrodiashah, nice quote
09:29.20krka|workoh i just realized you could interpreter it like the power went out
09:29.28krka|workthat makes it funnier!
09:29.40Corrodiassmirk.
09:30.30krka|workhttp://qdb.us/57165
09:34.54Corrodiasyeah, "mountain dew"
09:38.10Corrodiasall right, 'ni. [away]
09:51.44Wobin_Suggesting that those sugar ants may come back to swarm his crotch? =P
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09:55.00L|Elvisoanyone know if an addon has been made to ignore by guild?
09:57.59Temit's possible
09:58.13Temthere's tons of "improved ignore" addons out there
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10:31.58L|Elvisodoesn't look like, guess I'll try to mod one out of one of the existing ones
10:34.15L|Elvisook n00b question alert
10:34.42L|Elvisoif I just need the guild name, and I'm using
10:34.49L|Elvisolocal guildName, guildRankName, guildRankIndex = GetGuildInfo(arg2);
10:35.04L|Elvisocan I just use local guildName = GetGuildInfo(arg2);
10:35.16L|Elvisoor would it be local guildName,_,_ = GetGuildInfo(arg2); ?
10:36.48wereHamsteris the same
10:37.04L|Elvisoawesome, thx.....I'm picky about clean code like that :)
10:37.53wereHamsterusually, I replace the unused variables with '_' ('unused' is also fine)
10:38.50L|Elvisois that considered better practice?
10:38.54wereHamsterbut only if you have unused variables that precede the variable you want to use.. local _, _, IWantThat = SomeFancyFunction()
10:39.08L|Elvisoi see
10:39.54wereHamsterif you use '_' or 'unused', it makes the code clearer.. it shows the reader what you'll use later in the block..
10:49.57krka|workimo, only _ is clear
11:01.45[MoonWolf]you only need to use _ when you are going to need variables past the _
11:14.44krka|workanyone have a good strategy for maintaining interface settings for multiple computers?
11:14.53krka|worki was thinking using subversion :)
11:15.07L|ElvisoKVM :P
11:15.15krka|workKVM?
11:15.23L|Elvisonm I'm dumb
11:16.04L|Elvisokvm = keyboard/video/mouse device....I was totally thinking the wrong thing
11:16.51krka|worki guess
11:19.08L|Elvisowhat is subversion though?
11:19.38[MoonWolf]google
11:20.34L|Elvisoah what I suspected....fancy cvs
11:22.39krka|workcvs done right :)
11:30.41Legorol^krka: what you want is a folder synchronization tool, not a multi-user version control system
11:31.03Legorol^hehe, but SVN is the best thing I can think of too :-)
11:35.05L|Elviso"My Briefcase" hehe
11:35.12krka|workagreed
11:35.18krka|workcould use rsync i suppose
11:36.48krka|workbut with svn it can be as simple as: svn up before playing and svn co after playing
11:37.09krka|workhmm.. may have to do svn add before commiting too
11:38.11Legorol^svn is a bit of a pain as you have to commit each time you change..
11:38.20Legorol^i was about to suggest rsync, but seems like you know about it already
11:38.27Legorol^I just found this: http://everythinglinux.org/rsync/
11:38.43Legorol^seems like once set up properly, it's less pain than SVN for this purpose
11:43.26krka|workhm
11:43.31krka|workstill have to run before and after playing
11:43.37krka|workso i am not sure
11:44.10Legorol^how about this:
11:44.11Legorol^http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/index.html
11:44.17L|ElvisoI'd prob do it the lazy way and just use a network drive
11:44.18krka|workok i knew ie was crap at png24, but it cant even show correct colors for png8 :/
11:44.56Legorol^krka: will you always want to update files one-way,
11:45.01Legorol^or will you want to update both ways?
11:45.14Legorol^rsync is lot less useful for two-way synchronization
11:45.29krka|workboth ways
11:47.24krka|workunison looks interesting
11:48.54krka|worknot sure if is better than svn though
11:54.37Legorol^from reading what it does, seems like it keeps a private control repository of the files in question and detects changes against that
11:54.57Legorol^the benefit is that you don't have to run it after a WoW session, only before
12:03.07krka|workthen both computers need to check against eachother
12:03.11krka|worki.e. there is no server
12:06.24krka|workand i can only count on my main computer to be online at all times
12:08.22wereHamsterhttp://tsyncd.sourceforge.net/ ? does that run under windows?
12:09.15wereHamsterThen when the user creates/modifies/deletes files on one machine, those changes are automatically propagated to all the others .. better than rsync :)
12:10.02[MoonWolf]Operating System: Linux
12:10.10[MoonWolf]http://sourceforge.net/projects/tsyncd
12:10.58wereHamsteryep.. probably requires inotify or dnotify..
12:13.00krka|workcould do a check every hour or so
12:13.06krka|workthat is enough for my purposes
12:13.49krka|workLegorol^ what did you mean by only needing to run before a session?
12:18.05JoshBorkeyou could sync after a WoW session, but it wolud be the same as syncing before
12:19.43krka|worki don't think you follow me
12:19.46krka|workhere's my scenario:
12:20.19krka|work1) at home: update, play 2) at work: update, play 3) at home: update, play
12:20.40krka|workif i made a change to the settings at work, it wouldn't propagate home
12:20.49krka|worksince the home computer can't access the work computer
12:21.01krka|workthus, i need a commit after play
12:21.05JoshBorkewell now, you didn't mention that one couldn't access the other :-)
12:22.07JoshBorkethere is going to be a 30 degree change in weather today :-(
12:22.07krka|work<krka|work> and i can only count on my main computer to be online at all times
12:22.12krka|worki think i kinda did
12:22.28krka|workjust rotate your umbrella accordingly
12:22.29JoshBorkethen you'd have to run it after you play at home
12:22.46krka|workyeah
12:22.52JoshBorkeafter you play at work also
12:23.05JoshBorkepretty much before and after you play :D
12:23.28AnduinLotharmeh
12:24.18krka|workyes
12:24.41krka|workwell, i could forget every now and then without too much problems
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12:31.05AnduinLotharmy email has been download constantly to my desktop from my provider since friday
12:31.35JoshBorkei think you need a fatter pipe :-)
12:31.44JoshBorkeor less email :D
12:31.57AnduinLotharI now have 131512 virus junk emails on my hd and 23k in queue
12:33.10Wobin_oh hey AL, long time no see
12:33.27L|Elvisowow AL...
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12:33.37L|Elvisois there a reason you're dl'g them all?
12:33.54JoshBorkewhy does winSCP transfer files so slowly?
12:33.56L|Elvisoyour ISP can just delete the spool on their end if you know you don't want any of them
12:34.18AnduinLotharapparently my cosmosui email address is now distrbuted with the sober.AA virus so whenever it reactivates i get 300k emails///
12:35.17L|Elvisoshould get some spam filter and blackhole them!
12:35.40L|ElvisoI get roughly 1k a week and that's still too much for me to bother with
12:36.27[MoonWolf]AnduinLothar, ouch
12:36.33[MoonWolf]new email adress stat.
12:37.06AnduinLotharnice thing about the cosmosui one is it's jsut a redirect... so i can change it i spose
12:37.13MaldiviaAnduinLothar: just manually delete all your mails via telnet :)
12:37.30L|Elvisow/23k emails....telnet would take days still
12:37.56[MoonWolf]isnt there a drop all kind of command ?
12:38.17MaldiviaUSER xxx PASS xxx DELE 1-23000
12:38.27L|ElvisoI've never heard of that
12:39.27Maldiviaok, it's not all pop3 implementations that supports it, since the RFC is only DELE x
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12:41.21Maldiviabut then just perl -e 'print "USER user\nPASS pass\n"; for ($i = 1; $i < 23000; $i++) { print "DELE $i\n" } print "QUIT\n" '
12:41.32Maldiviaand pipe it to a telnet
12:41.56krka|workno no, you write a java enterprise application to do it
12:42.02L|Elvisolol
12:42.04krka|work80 classes and 94000 LOC
12:42.41krka|workthat perl line is not dynamic enough, too many constants
12:43.01Maldiviaif it doesn't get them all the first time, you just run it again ! :9
12:43.49MaldiviaI should release it, and call it mail assassin, eliminates ALL spam in your pop3 mail box... and more!
12:44.00L|Elvisobastards....sometime in the past week my webhost yanked my shell
12:44.14[MoonWolf]krka|work, arent enterpise aplication supposed to havea LOTS of constants ?
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12:53.51AnduinLothari need a few good books fro spring break guys. I enjoy sci-fi and fantisy with an occational mystery and 'motivational humor' sometimes
12:53.56AnduinLotharany suggestions?
12:55.53L|ElvisoFahrenheit 451!
12:56.15L|Elviso(I'm out of touch with newer books)
12:56.28AnduinLothargood book, already read it
12:59.04L|ElvisoI enjoyed A Wizard of Earthsea, also old
12:59.49L|Elvisoits somewhat juvenile but still entertaining
13:00.05[MoonWolf]AnduinLothar, read the shannarah books yet /
13:00.07[MoonWolf]?*
13:00.45AnduinLothari never remember authors
13:01.04AnduinLotharah, not an author
13:01.06AnduinLotharso no
13:02.41AnduinLotharmmm, that explains why my online mailbox was so full.. it was only deleting email if i moved them from my inbox
13:02.42[MoonWolf]Terry Brooks is the author.
13:03.06[MoonWolf]I liked them a lot.
13:03.16AnduinLotharso there's 2gigs of email on my account...
13:03.26AnduinLotharso much for never having to delete anything
13:03.30[MoonWolf]haha
13:03.54[MoonWolf]i think you need slightly more then 100 emails per page for this.
13:04.01AnduinLothareven after all my manual delets and junkmail filtered out
13:05.14AnduinLotharwonder how much mail i have on my hd
13:07.18AnduinLothar600mb compressed
13:07.31AnduinLotharnot including attachments
13:12.49AnduinLotharmy mail client hangs when deleting my 100k junk emails..
13:14.43AnduinLotharah, it had to extract and then delete and recompact
13:14.53AnduinLotharand updating the gui made it eat it
13:16.15AnduinLotharcompresses 200 emails a sec tho...
13:16.24AnduinLothartakes a while
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13:33.36Josh_Borkemorning
13:39.04Josh_Borkeit's the end of the contest realmS!
13:39.14[MoonWolf]YAY
13:41.13Josh_Borkeanyone know how many lvl 20 toons there were?
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13:59.24Legorol^I thought it runs until 11:59 PM PST on 27th
13:59.31Legorol^hence there is still almost a day
14:00.10Legorol^time to get levelling/honour farming!
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14:05.07krka|workgrr... i forgot i had symlinks in my path
14:05.11krka|workthat ruins svn :/
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14:07.41[MoonWolf]:(
14:07.50s|louphi
14:07.57Cairenn|sleephey loup :)
14:08.07s|loupdoes anyone got experience with the dynamic frame system?
14:08.08Legorol^morning Cairenn
14:08.16Cairennhi Lego
14:08.26Legorol^s|loup: you might need to wait until the US folks start waking up...
14:08.37s|louphm what time is it there?
14:08.50Cairenn9 am eastern, so 6 am on the west coast
14:08.58Legorol^Cairenn: DST
14:09.06Legorol^it should be 7 west, 10 east
14:09.10s|louphm ok good time to sleep ^^
14:09.24Cairennummm, no, you went the wrong way Lego
14:09.31Cairennit's 9
14:09.38Legorol^didn't you guys just start summer time as well?
14:09.42Legorol^at least Europe did
14:09.43Cairennnot yet
14:09.47Legorol^ah that explains it
14:09.48Cairennanother couple weeks
14:09.50[MoonWolf]when do you switch ?
14:09.51Legorol^US starts later, i always forget
14:09.52[MoonWolf]ah
14:10.06[MoonWolf]i certainly did not like it
14:10.18Legorol^i didn't even realise until my computer suddenly jumped an hour :D
14:10.31[MoonWolf]rudely awakened an hour early according to my bio clock.
14:11.01Legorol^ehm.. it should be the other way round, [MoonWolf]
14:11.06Legorol^we set the clocks an hour forward
14:11.14Legorol^so you should've been rudely awakened by the alarm clock
14:11.17Josh_Borkemorning Cairenn
14:11.24Cairennhey Josh_Borke
14:11.34[MoonWolf]thats what i ment legorol, but my bio clock disagreed with the alarm.
14:11.47[MoonWolf]normally i wake up before the alarm goes.
14:11.55[MoonWolf]i only set it for special cases, like today.
14:12.23CairennLegorol^: ignore the PM since you can't respond on this nick :p
14:12.26Legorol^ok i see now what you meant
14:12.31Legorol^Cairenn: oh right
14:12.34Legorol^i can fix that
14:12.48Legorol^explains why you didn't reply :D
14:13.09Cairennindeed
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14:25.41Elkanockknight, you're in?
14:51.56ckknightin?
14:55.33Elkanook, you are :)
14:55.43ckknightapparently
14:55.55ElkanoI finally switched over to bosspanel :)
14:56.02ckknighthuzzah
14:57.58Elkanoa few things I noticed: 1. in the tutorial, you are sometimes refering to performance instead of tutorial as plugin ;) and what ist the " and 1 or 0" for?
14:59.02ckknightthat's an ace thing for the report
14:59.07ckknighttext=BossPanel_TutorialLocals.ARGUMENT_DUMMY, val=self:GetDummy() and 1 or 0, map=BossPanelLocals.MAP_ONOFF
14:59.28ckknightwhat it does is do map[val]
14:59.41ckknightsince you can't index nil, it goes to 0 or 1
14:59.41krka|work"X and 1 or 0" means that if X is nil or false, then it will evaluate to 0, otherwise 1
14:59.59Elkano2. I'm using TipBuddy for tooltips so I don't know if the problem is caused by thisone instead of yours but the honor display is sometimes to long for the unit tooltip
15:00.17Elkanoah, "nil and 1" won't give you 0 ?
15:00.25ckknightnope, it'll give you nil
15:00.33Elkanok :)
15:00.33ckknightfalse and 1 == false
15:00.36krka|workif X is nil: (X and 1) or 0      == X or 0     == 0
15:00.59krka|workif X is non-nil: (X and 1) or 0        == 1 or 0     == 1
15:01.12Elkano3. could you add bind location to the location tooltip?
15:01.18ckknightright, it's a cheap way to pretend you have a ternary function
15:01.21krka|workugly code if you ask me :)
15:01.28ckknightElkano, the hearth place?
15:01.33s|loup0 == 1 ?
15:01.34Elkanoyes
15:01.35ckknightsure, file a bug report on WoWI
15:01.54krka|workno, only 1 == 1
15:01.58ckknightI don't like to use the and-or ternary hack
15:02.27Elkanobtw: what was the page to show code snipets?
15:02.32s|loupah ok binary get first right?
15:02.36Elkanowas ist pastebin.com ?
15:03.02Elkano~paste
15:03.05purlit has been said that paste is see http://paste.husk.org
15:03.33ckknightpastebin.com
15:03.34Elkanohmm, that wasn't the one
15:04.03ckknightI should update the Tutorial
15:04.10krka|workbetter to do this instead, imo: function toBinary(value) if value then return 1 else return 0 end end
15:04.23ckknightrealy, I base my new code off of Clock, you should feel free to do the same
15:04.41krka|workand do this instead: text=BossPanel_TutorialLocals.ARGUMENT_DUMMY, val=toBinary(self:GetDummy()), map=BossPanelLocals.MAP_ONOFF
15:04.44Elkanook, wanted to show you sth wrt bosspanel_bags: http://pastebin.com/625069
15:05.06ckknightokay
15:05.09krka|workwow.pastebin.com if you want lua as default :)
15:05.42ElkanoI did alter titanbag to use the returnvalues from getiteminfo in order to identify bags, which results in only one localized string for ammo bags
15:06.04ckknighthrm
15:06.17ckknightI can update BossPanel - Bags to do that
15:06.20Elkanocan be done for soul bags (and hopefully the new 1,10 bags, too)
15:06.37ckknightyea
15:06.40Elkanothis way you won't have to update if they add larger bags
15:06.44TainAww using ternery functions built into the language isn't a hack.
15:07.01ckknightI also want to get a French translation for BossPanel
15:07.27ckknightthanks for pointing that out, Elkano
15:07.31TainNot that I'm endorsing or condemning them, just more coding style differences in people.  But hack isn't the right word.
15:07.33Elkanobtw: thanks for topscore :)
15:07.42ckknightno problem
15:08.09krka|worki think it almost always reduces readability
15:08.54Elkanoi love the way you did it (using the global strings)
15:09.39ElkanoI think I'll write a bosspanel plugin for my ItemDB :)
15:09.39krka|workhmm... this would be nice if lua had lazy evaluation: function tern(condition, falseValue, trueValue) if condition then return trueValue else return falseValue end end
15:10.23TainWell since you can write that function yourself I'm not sure it needs to be part of the language.
15:10.47ckknightbut it's not short-circuited
15:10.54krka|workexactly
15:11.02krka|workactually, it's not lazily evaluated
15:11.11ckknightthat's the same thing
15:11.21krka|worknot at all
15:11.28ckknightoh?
15:11.34krka|workmost languages has short circuit but not lazy evaluation
15:11.44ckknightexample?
15:12.15krka|workok... function X(Y) end X(3*4*5*6)
15:12.32krka|work3*4*5*6 will be calculated before calling X
15:12.44krka|workin a lazy language, it will be passed as it is, and only computed when it's needed
15:12.53krka|work(Haskell is such a language)
15:12.55ckknightah
15:13.18krka|workwhich is why tern(cond, fValue, tValue) doesn't work as well in Lua
15:13.49krka|workbut inlining that function would work
15:13.59krka|workthough, in most cases, not being lazy isn't that big of a loss
15:14.37TainYeah for most general purposes there isn't really a difference in the result.  It's specific cases that there's a difference.
15:15.10CairennYou guys see this yet? http://www.davidnikdel.com/Project_WoW360_Static.htm
15:15.27krka|workin haskell you can have functions that actually return infinite lists :)
15:15.34krka|worki made a function that returned all primes
15:15.53Cairennhe's using a XBox controller to play wow
15:15.55krka|workand it would work fine, if i wrapped that around a function that only returned the first 1000 elements
15:16.31ckknightso you just had a generator function, then
15:16.37TainNifty.
15:16.58TainToo bad it's completely against the TOS and you have to do that to get any real game controller support in WoW.
15:17.20TainNative support now!
15:19.00L|Elviso"Now then, most of this is self explainitory..."
15:19.01L|ElvisoLOL
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15:19.24krka|workno not a generator function
15:19.26krka|worka plain function
15:19.50Shouryuu|sleeprawr, boo, moo purr etc
15:20.07Cairennhey Shouryuu|sleep
15:25.44Legorol^hi Shouryuu
15:25.51Legorol^sorry i had to run off the other day
15:26.05Shouryuuhehe no problem
15:31.44Legorol^did you get your problem sorted?
15:31.57Shouryuuyeah more or less
15:32.07ShouryuuI;m going to call my ISP someday anyways
15:32.19Shouryuuand do what frenchmen are renown for, complain :P
15:33.09TainAnd surrender!
15:33.27Shouryuulol
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15:48.19Shouryuuhow do you ask purl to tranlate something from language A to B?
15:48.39ckknight~x en de hello
15:48.41ckknightI think
15:48.52Shouryuuthank you :P
15:48.58ckknight~x de en Wie geht's?
15:50.34Shouryuuhummm tells don't work with purl?
15:52.05Shouryuu~x fr en epreuve
15:52.43Elkanook, ck, two bad news: 1. topscores isn't working for me on deDE :/ 2. with BossPanel (and some plugins) my fps drops from 15-16 in SW to 5-6 :/
15:52.55ckknighthrm
15:52.58TainTells do work with purl.  Just leave out the ~
15:53.00Shouryuuso I can't just /msg purl ~x fr en epreuve ? That won;t work =(
15:53.08Shouryuuah
15:53.08Shouryuuthanks
15:53.19Shouryuuand the x?
15:53.22ckknightit should work regardless of language, Elkano
15:53.27ckknightwhat isn't working?
15:53.41Elkanoit didn't recognize any damage dealt
15:53.53ckknightodd
15:54.03ckknightI wish I had a German client...
15:56.22ElkanoI think I know what could be the problem
15:56.43ElkanoI'll check it
15:56.47Legorol^ckknight: if you have EU English client, you can have a German client
15:56.58Legorol^by downloading the German language pack
15:57.08ckknightI'm in US
15:57.17Legorol^I also think it might be possible to trick the US version into letting you install the German language pack
15:57.29ckknightthat'd be handy
15:57.59ckknightElkano, it's supposed to check against the GlobalStrings, not against any specific localized string I wrote
15:58.02ElkanoCOMBATHITSELFOTHER = "Ihr trefft %1$s. Schaden: %2$d.";
15:58.13ckknightyea
15:58.20ckknightis that not what comes up?
15:58.23Elkanoit's %1$s instead of %s on German client
15:58.27ckknightI know
15:58.30ckknightI account for that
15:58.33Elkanooh... hmm :/
15:58.44ckknightI have the DE and FR GlobalStrings.lua
15:59.06ckknightI use BossPanelUtils.Deformat("text", "pattern"), which seems to work
15:59.59ckknightokay, Elkano, mind helping me figure out this bug?
15:59.59Legorol^does that account for reversed order of some of the patterns in different languages?
16:00.05ckknightyes
16:00.08ElkanoI'll try
16:00.48krka|workDeformat?
16:01.14ckknightin BossPanel_TopScore.lua, in between lines 182 and 183, put `print(target, amount)`, then hit something, see what it says
16:01.24ckknightyea, I wrote a Deformat function
16:01.45krka|workisn't that what regular expressions is for? :)
16:01.55Legorol^ckknight: i can send you the Blizz downloader of the German language pack
16:02.01ckknightalright
16:02.02Legorol^you may be able to apply it against the US version
16:02.05Legorol^that's for future reference
16:02.07ckknighthopefully
16:02.19Legorol^it's a 600 Mb download though, so i will only send you the downloader
16:02.26Legorol^do you accept DCC?
16:02.31ckknightI should
16:03.45Legorol^account management page not loading, can't get to it right now :/
16:04.00Legorol^i'll let you know when i got it
16:04.02ckknightalright, thanks
16:04.06ShouryuuI know I've managed to play on a french account using a US client. So playing on a german client using a US account should work
16:04.16ckknightokay
16:04.17Legorol^that's not the issue, Shouryuu
16:04.28Legorol^the question is if the german language pack will be happy to install itself with a US client
16:04.42Legorol^you can redirect WoW versions to connect to different WoW servers, and use different accounts
16:05.04Legorol^but usually various patches are cranky about which client you try to install them on
16:06.48wereHamsteryesterday, someone here talked about the word 'spelunking' .. where did you have it from ?
16:07.48AdrineYou could probably just swap in some .mpq files and effectively have a german client.
16:08.31Legorol^ckknight: right, i don't know if they will let themselves be installed. If not, you can try extracting WoW.ini from interface.mpq, placing it in your WoW dir and changing its contents around
16:08.40Legorol^it might fool the client into thinking it's a non-US version
16:09.13ckknighthrm
16:09.41ckknightElkano, any luck, or is it giving nil, nil?
16:10.01Elkanonope, it's giving the data it should
16:10.47ckknightokay
16:10.52ckknightthen what's the problem?
16:12.26Elkanowell, I hit a rabit, it said "Hase 56".. but the plugin still said 0 / 0
16:12.56ckknightwhat does the tooltip say?
16:12.58ckknightanything?
16:14.59OsagasuAlright, I'm confuzzled
16:15.00Elkanojust checked savedvars, the tables for the attacks have been created but not filled
16:15.15Osagasuwhat's with the protests going on in houston?
16:15.19ckknightodd
16:16.58ckknighthrm
16:17.22L|Elvisoprobably the immigration advocates
16:17.25L|ElvisoOsagasu
16:18.32ckknightokay, Elkano, delete that print() line
16:19.15ckknightthen between 263 and 264, put print(gameTarget)
16:19.21OsagasuBut... the laws are just making it illegal to hire illegal immigrants
16:19.25Osagasu>.<
16:19.34OsagasuWhatever.  people make no sense.
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16:20.23L|Elvisowell, that's not all of it....but idk if we want to turn this into a political channel :)
16:21.12ckknightOh, Elkano, it might not be working cause you're attacking something that's gray to you (5 or more levels below you)
16:21.37ckknightL|elviso, we stick to philosophy and programming here
16:24.00L|ElvisoThat's fine by me, I actually hate talking about politics
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16:25.25Elkanooh, that could be ^^'
16:25.50ckknightyea, attack something that is at least green to you
16:30.53Elkanook, working :)
16:31.07ckknight*sigh*
16:31.11ckknightbad, Elkano
16:31.16ckknightyou don't get a cookie today
16:31.32ElkanoI already have one next to me :P
16:31.49ckknightoh well
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16:36.25ckknightokay it doesn't let me install to a vanilla enUS
16:36.52ckknighthow would I go about installing the deDE pack?
16:39.05Legorol^ckknight: create a file called Wow.ini in your WoW directory
16:39.14ckknightokay
16:39.23Legorol^on an enGB client, its contents is:
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16:39.25Legorol^[WoW Config]
16:39.26Legorol^Version=1
16:39.26Legorol^Country=GB
16:39.26Legorol^Language=en
16:39.26Legorol^Region=3
16:39.47Legorol^So you can try putting this in there, and see if it now lets you install the deDE pack
16:40.04Legorol^(btw the language pack works like the test realm patch, it's a split-install that leaves your original intact)
16:40.12ckknightyea
16:40.33ckknightthat's handy
16:43.10ckknightdidn't work
16:43.19ckknightdoes it go in the root WoW folder or in Interface or what?
16:44.53Legorol^into the root WoW
16:49.10ckknightno luck
16:49.16Legorol^:/
16:49.19Legorol^nasty nasty
16:49.49Legorol^in that case, i don't know how the patches tell which client version you have
16:49.55Legorol^i don't think the WoW.exe binaries are different
16:50.42ckknightit might check the mpq proper
16:51.36ckknightoh well
16:54.59TainActually the binaries might be different, didn't I see AnduinLothar talk one night in here about differences in the En vs other exe?
16:55.15TainDisclaimer: I might have been drunk and imagining things.
17:06.32ckknightis there any way I can have something like __newindex that also works for things that already exist?
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17:14.32Legorol^ckknight: not really
17:14.41ckknightalright
17:14.42AdrineOooooooooh.
17:14.42Legorol^Tain: that was about Windows and Mac versions
17:14.43AdrineI forgot.
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17:14.53AdrineToday is Kingdom Hearts 2 Preorder Delivery Day.
17:14.54Legorol^ckknight: what you can do though, is this: you can nil an entry in the table
17:15.03Legorol^next time you try to add it, it will go through __newindex
17:15.09ckknightyea, I know that
17:15.19ckknightbut I don't want to do that, I'd rather have it transparent
17:15.27Legorol^yeah :/
17:15.30Legorol^well you can do this:
17:15.36Legorol^when you attach your metatable to the table,
17:15.42Legorol^you can copy all current values and add them fresh
17:16.16Legorol^problem is, if the key actually exists in the table, neither __newindex nor __index gets called
17:16.17Legorol^ever
17:16.42Legorol^it's annoying as hell
17:16.54ckknightoh well
17:17.13ckknighta __changeindex or something would be handy :-P
17:17.44Legorol^yeah i'd like there to be a version of __index and __newindex that gets called in preference to access to the table
17:17.59Legorol^or maybe a flag in the metatable that'd signal if they should be called first,
17:18.04Legorol^or if the table should be accessed first
17:18.21Legorol^i don't think a new metamethod is necessary
17:18.25ckknightI'm currently changing the way the defaults system works in BossPanel
17:18.52ckknightbefore I copied values, now I'm using a metatable
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18:02.19Cidehmm
18:02.30ckknighthmm.
18:02.49Cideapparently %w doesn't match "û"? Is there any special character that would match that (along with the other alphanumeric characters)?
18:05.21Cide%a doesn't match it either, and I can't find anything else that would suit on lua.org...
18:05.40ckknightI'm surprised %a doesn't match
18:06.14CideI "guess" I could do..
18:06.28Cide[^%c%d%p%s%z] or something like that, but that would be rather ugly
18:13.01TainSpeaking of ugly.. my attempt at a reporting function allowing + and - strings to search on to include or exclude results is getting ugly.
18:14.20TainSo search for strings containing any of the strings: +frame +banana but not if they contain the strings -button -apple.  Without searching for the +/- itself of course.
18:19.24Shouryuuok I'm going to ask something stupid but that isn't exceptional
18:19.43ShouryuuBefore anyone asnwers: Yes I am a low life
18:21.10[MoonWolf]Shouryuu, go on
18:21.13ShouryuuBut I want to make a hack for the MS pinball game. I basicly want to write a program that will trick the pinball into beleaving I'm pressing Z and > at *very* quick intervals
18:21.13Shouryuuhow would I do that? Which language? How do I even write an executable file?
18:21.54ckknightyou can do that in C# pretty easily
18:22.10[MoonWolf]cant the how in this, i have no idea.
18:22.13ckknightusing System.Windows.Forms.SendKeys
18:22.44ckknightyou can just send the Z and > keys to the pinball app repeatedly
18:23.40MiravlixMorning
18:23.59ckknightmorning
18:25.08MiravlixUuh, hwy are we talking about key generators when it's sutch a hot topic for creating bots with wow.
18:25.31ckknightin english?
18:25.51AdrineSending keypresses is hardly esoteric or difficult to do. *shrug*
18:25.56Shouryuuok I'm going to look up on the net for some info on C# :P
18:25.56Shouryuuaye that's what I want
18:25.56Shouryuu<PROTECTED>
18:26.03ShouryuuI'm hacking my pinball!
18:26.28MiravlixJust download a program, there is a million of them already
18:26.34Shouryuuand if I wanted to write a hack for wow (which would involve learning lots of stuff about lots of thing I don't even have a remote clue about), I wouldn't be asking here :P
18:26.43MiravlixProlly named macro something
18:26.44Shouryuunawww the fun isn't there
18:27.31Shouryuuhaloo
18:27.57TainOops silly me, an empty table returns 0 for getn(), not nil.
18:28.19MiravlixAnd a nil table returns a lua error?
18:28.32Legorol^it's possible to write a 3 line VBScript code, which Windows can execute natively (if you give it .vbs extension) that will send keypresses to an app of your choice
18:28.43Legorol^that's the simplest keygenerator i have found so far
18:29.03Legorol^no need to even compile it
18:29.15ckknightthe C# one is pretty small too, but the vbs one would be smaller
18:29.24MiravlixWhy 3 lines?
18:29.37Legorol^two for the loop, one for the keypresses
18:29.58MiravlixHmm, two?
18:30.03Legorol^while/wend
18:30.04MiravlixIsn't vbs based on basic
18:30.05Legorol^or somesuch
18:30.08Legorol^yes it is
18:30.17Legorol^so you have a statement for the beginning, and one for the end of the loop
18:30.48MiravlixI can do that loop in 2 lines, my first professional job was making a 2 line basic program to scroll some text on a monitor some 20 years ago. :)
18:30.58Shouryuuhehe
18:31.03Legorol^lol
18:31.19Legorol^dunno, maybe vbs allows multiple statements on one line
18:31.36Legorol^either way... this is something that is extremely hard for WoW to detect
18:31.40Legorol^you are scripting Windows itself
18:31.52MiravlixBut I can't do "print "something" goto 10 in vbs, it doesn't have line numbers
18:31.54TainIt's like the old gameshow.  I can name that code in two lines, Alex!
18:31.58Legorol^of course they can detect it via the analysis of the keypresses
18:32.00Legorol^they are too regular
18:32.23Legorol^Miravlix: true, that'd be 2 lines
18:32.23ckknightyea
18:32.27TainSure you can, Miravlix!  At least I think you can use :10 as a label in vbs, not sure if it's string only.
18:32.33ckknighttotally do a random generator on the time for keypresses
18:32.41Legorol^then it becomes 4 lines :p
18:32.43MiravlixYou can make a label, but then it's 3 lines
18:32.54Legorol^yeah so i'm not sure it's possible in 2 lines :/
18:33.21Legorol^the C# one you can have on 1 line... just have to be a very long one
18:33.26ckknightlol
18:33.34Miravlixline = statements here
18:33.37TainOh just do it in assembly.
18:33.46Legorol^pain! lots of pain!
18:33.55Legorol^or go buy a G15
18:33.59Legorol^0 lines of code
18:34.05Cidecoding in assembly: http://www.blightedguild.com/screens/emps.jpg
18:34.06Shouryuulol
18:34.18AdrineHahahaah, Cide shoots, he scores.
18:34.21ShouryuuI;m not buying a g15 to have a top score on my pinball
18:34.24Legorol^rofl, Cide
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18:34.47AdrineShouryuu, there's a much more interesting way to do that.
18:34.49Adrinehttp://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2006/01/07/hacking-pinball/
18:34.51TainYou can use your G15 for so many wonderful things.
18:34.53Shouryuulol
18:35.29Crispixis a G15 really worth buying?
18:36.01ShouryuuAdrine - I want to do it myself =(
18:36.03MiravlixIt's a keyboar
18:36.13Shouryuua keyboar?
18:36.21MiravlixGenerally keyboards is worth buying I think makes computers easier to use
18:36.22Crispixkeyboar.. a boar that holds keys?
18:36.33Shouryuukeyboars and mices...
18:36.56CrispixNo wonder there are people who are techniphobiacs
18:37.06TainI love my G15.
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18:48.46MiravlixIt's on my shopping list for my next gaming/video machine, but only because I combine codeing and gaming on it when developing WoW addons.
18:49.02Adrinehttp://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/armorsets/
18:49.03MiravlixThe g15 is a nice enhancement for programming
18:50.22MiravlixI don't (without having used it) see how the g15 will make my WoW game more fun.
18:53.01MiravlixHmm, actually, I like the MX 5000 laser more, thats a nice keyboard
18:54.42Cidethat is interesting
18:54.52IrielMy problem with all cordless keyboards is that none of them are rechargable
18:55.05Iriel(Not in the same sense as the rechargable mice that have docking stations for charging)
18:55.16Miravlixhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2158,CONTENTID=10777
18:55.22MiravlixBluetooth, rechargeable
18:55.22Cidewhen a friendly player is afflicted by mind control, the game apparently fires CHAT_MSG_SPELL_PERIODIC_HOSTILEPLAYER_DAMAGE instead of ..FRIENDLYPLAYER..
18:55.40MiravlixAnd the numeric keypad works as a remote control for your computer
18:55.43IrielIs it actually rechargable, or is that just the mouse
18:55.44Iriel?
18:55.54IrielI already have a remote for my computer thanks to creative, and I never use that?
18:55.57MiravlixOh
18:56.26Josh_Borkewho knows perl well? :-(
18:56.29MiravlixWell, my gaming/video machine is sound, video, etc.
18:56.41MiravlixSo I would use a remote for it.
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18:56.51malicorgood evening
18:56.57Josh_Borkehello
18:56.58ckknighthey
18:57.02MiravlixIt is just the mouse thats recharge able
18:57.14TainI've got the MX1000 and love that as well.
18:57.18MiravlixIf you want recharge keyboard you will prolly need to buy a recharger. :)
18:57.44IrielYou basically have to use regular rechargable batteries
18:57.48Miravlixhttp://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/US/EN,CRID=2158,CONTENTID=10776
18:57.48malicorif i want to have a mod that just outputs all events that occur, i would simply call a function in the frame in the xml using the <OnEvent>my_function(event)</OnEvent> tag inside the <scripts> ?
18:57.51IrielBut that's a lot more hassle than just plugging something in.
18:58.17Miravlixmalicor: And RegisterEvent for all events you want to monitor
18:58.26Irielmalicor : You'd... what Miravlix just said
18:58.29malicorwhere do i have to RegisterEvent ?
18:58.42Irielmalicor : When you create your frame (traditionally OnLoad)
18:59.13malicorwhat event happens when i click another player or a monster ?
18:59.32IrielPLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED
19:00.26malicorso i do: this:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED"); in my OnLoad function in the .lua file, correct ?
19:00.39Irielin the xml file
19:00.51malicoroh ?
19:00.54ckknightor in the lua file
19:00.55IrielOh, if your OnLoad is XYZ_OnLoad, and the function's in the .lua file, then yes, lua file 8-)
19:01.06ckknightif your XML calls a function in your lua file, it should be fine
19:01.14MiravlixMore coffee Iriel?
19:01.28malicori ll give it a try :)
19:01.46MiravlixSo the MX 5000 laser can do all the G15 can, without the backlit keys?
19:02.55AdrineHow many agi per dodge at 60 for warriors?
19:03.06Cidepretty sure it's 20
19:03.16Cide14.5 for rogues, ~26.5 for hunters, rest 20
19:03.23AdrineOk, thanks.
19:03.27MiravlixBaah Logi needs better product overviews. :p
19:03.29IrielHm, the G15 has linux support now
19:03.30malicor~26.5 ? about 26.5 ?
19:04.06Cideyeah, somewhere around there
19:04.29CideI haven't confirmed all data yet :)
19:04.53malicorpff :)
19:05.06malicorso it might be 26.3 or 26.4 but not <26 :)
19:05.24Cidepossibly, confirm it and tell me :)
19:13.56krkai want 1.10 already :/
19:16.04ckknightas do I
19:16.22ckknightwhen do you predict the ETA will be?
19:16.29Cidetomorrow
19:16.36ckknightI really hope so
19:16.38ckknightI really do
19:16.46CideI kinda don't
19:16.51ckknightwhy?
19:17.03ckknightI will miss AutoBuff and such, but I just want CreateFrame already
19:17.08Cidebecause I've spent way too much time on our new site and have had way too little time to make sure my mods work, hehe
19:17.22ckknightlol, alright
19:17.28Cidebut I like the patch
19:17.31Cidejust not the stress
19:21.35malicorit doesnt work
19:21.50malicori've got like follows:
19:22.07malicor<script><scripts><onload>myFunction();</onload>...
19:22.37malicorin the lua file: myFunction() this:RegisterEvent("PLAYER_TARGET_CHANGED");
19:23.22malicorand in <script><scripts><OnEvent>myEventFunction(event);</OnEvent>...
19:23.34malicorshouldnt that now be called whenever in game i click on a player/monster ?
19:24.32malicorah, it worked after a reload :)
19:24.58malicorquestion: if i click on a player, it looks like the event is called more than once, why's that ?
19:26.23ckknighttarget changed to nothing, target changed to your new target
19:27.09malicorit happens like 4 times ?
19:27.54malicorno, ya correc,t seems to happen exactly twice
19:27.59wereHamstertwice.. "clear target" and then "target mob"
19:30.31malicorwhat information can i get about the mob i targetted ?
19:32.35wereHamsterUnitName("target")
19:32.45wereHamsterand friends..
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19:33.27malicori can just use UnitName("target") ? or do i have to replace "target" with the thing i did target ?
19:33.45Cidejust use "target"
19:34.04Cidethat's the unit id for the current target.. see http://www.wowwiki.com/Units
19:36.11malicorthats so cool :)
19:38.42malicorwhat is the name of the event i have to register to do something whenever a spell/macro/buff is cast ?
19:38.54AdrineDepends on who is casting and what the spell type is.
19:39.08Adrinehttp://www.wowwiki.com/Events_C_%28Cancel%2C_Character%2C_Chat%2C_Cinematic%2C_Clear%2C_Close%2C_Confirm%2C_Corpse%2C_Craft%2C_Current%2C_Cursor%2C_CVar%29
19:39.20Cidebeautiful URL, by the way.
19:39.24AdrineCHAT_MSG_SPELL_* is what you're looking for, likely
19:39.28AdrineI know. Just lovely. :)
19:39.38AdrineWikis are nice, but sometimes they can go a wee bit overboard.
19:39.41IrielI prefer http://www.wowwiki.com/API_TYPE_UnitId as a unit reference
19:39.56Cideyeah, that one seems better
19:40.03CideI just linked the one I found on the interface customization index
19:44.33ckknightokay
19:44.38ckknightis it party1pet or partypet1?
19:46.06Irielpartypet1
19:46.12ckknightokay
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19:47.51Shouryuulol Adrine that pinball hack was cool
19:48.00Shouryuuuntil I had too many extra balls and couldn't get the game to end
19:49.55Josh_Borkelol
19:50.31ShouryuuI'm still trying atm
19:50.41ShouryuuI thinkI'm at like my fifthtiest ball
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20:02.39Shouryuuok I have this weird bug while visiting several sites, if I want to see their forums, I usualy have to download a forum.php file. Anyone have any idea why?
20:03.19ckknightit's broken
20:03.30Shouryuuthe site or my browser?
20:03.39ckknightthe site, I'm guessing
20:04.01Shouryuuok thanks :P
20:04.47KolthShouryuu: That usually comes from the site improerly handling that file type on the web server's end.
20:04.53ShouryuuElectronic is kinda allergic to me... Everyting I touch breaks rather quickly. So when thinkgs aren't working I usualy get paranoid and ask myself "Okkk what did you break *this* time"
20:05.21ShouryuuI guess I'll report it to the sit
20:05.26Shouryuus/sit/site/
20:08.24malicorallright, i guess CHAT_MSG_SPELL_FRIENDLYPLAYER_DAMAGE would be the event that happens when i as hunter shoot an arrow at something nasty ?
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20:11.21malicorhmm, no, didnt work
20:13.18malicorah, maybe CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE
20:15.59Shouryuunot sure  CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_SELF_HITS
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20:17.52malicorexample: i shoot a bow
20:18.07malicorthen internally its a /script ShootBow(); or something like this called, right?
20:18.36malicorhow do i get that /script thing ?
20:18.56Shouryuuhumm don't understand what you want to say
20:19.55malicorlet me try to explain
20:20.19malicori want to 'save' the last action that has been pressed/executed and have a button in my mod that i can press to repeat that last action
20:20.23ckknightCastSpell("Autoshoot")
20:20.29ckknightwait, CastSpellByName("Autoshoot")
20:20.29malicorby executing what the internal /script would do
20:20.50ckknight<PROTECTED>
20:20.53malicoraye, that CastSpellByName("Autoshoot (Level 3)"); must be executed when i press the button
20:21.05malicorbut how do i get these info from when the event is fired ?
20:21.21malicorwhat does /macro help me there ?
20:23.14malicorstill here, ckknight ?
20:23.25ckknightit'll let you make a button
20:23.56ckknightwhat info do you want?
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20:25.26malicori want in my mod the string that i have to CastSpellByName("wantthisstringhere");
20:25.59malicori dont know if you understand my problem
20:26.21ShouryuuI'm off
20:26.23ckknightCHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE
20:26.53KolthEven though I just came in, local mystring = "my special string"; CastSpellByName(mystring); ?
20:27.05ckknightyou could do that as well
20:27.34malicoryes
20:27.52malicorand i replace "my special string"; with arg1 or something ?
20:28.09malicorsince it shall be the one from the last executed event of type CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE ?
20:28.14KolthThis is taking information from a SLASH command?
20:28.21Kolthor from an event?
20:28.29malicorfrom an event
20:28.42malicor"my special string" shall be the last thing that has been casted
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20:29.01KolthSo the event you're using isn't CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE?
20:29.06malicorit is
20:29.17malicorsince if i shoot my enemy that event is executed
20:29.18KolthCHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE contains spell and rank info?
20:29.27ckknightnot rank
20:29.31ckknightit'll just have the name
20:29.38ckknightand the target and the damage
20:29.50malicorCHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE doesnt include anything ? its just an event name ?
20:30.07ckknightarg1 contains the spell name, the target, and the amount of damage
20:30.11Kolthmalicor: Do you know about event catching yet?
20:30.21malicornot very much it seems
20:30.40ckknightare you doing this from scratch or using a framework like ace?
20:30.54KolthThe idea is fairly simple. Create a frame, register and event to that frame, that frames OnEvent handler is called whenever that EVENT is fired.
20:31.34malicorfrom the scratch
20:31.40KolthHow much do you have so far?
20:32.22malicori ve got a frame and in it <scripts> and in there the <onload> and <onevent> which both call functions in my .lua
20:32.44malicorin the onLoad function i call the RegisterEvents
20:32.49KolthOkay. So in your frame's OnLoad funciton you want this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE");
20:32.57Kolthk
20:33.08malicoryes, i have that
20:33.29Kolthnow in your XML file under your frame's OnEvent handler, your function in there should be of form {AddOnName}_OnEvent(msg);
20:33.30malicorthen i have: function myOnEvent(event)
20:33.38KolthGreat!
20:33.42malicorout("event: " .. event .. " name: " .. UnitName("target"));
20:34.02malicor((where out does DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage(text) ))
20:34.27KolthThere's another level to event handling.
20:34.27malicorin the xml i have <OnEvent>myOnEvent(event)</OnEvent>
20:34.40KolthIn your OnEvent handler you need to have ...
20:34.51Kolthif ( event == "CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE") then...
20:35.15malicorno, right now i want to treat all events the same
20:35.17malicorjust output them
20:35.18Kolthokay, that's fine
20:35.32malicorand i will do the event == "whatever" part in the .lua file actually
20:35.37KolthBut if you've only registered one event, you'll only fire your Event handler when that particular event is fired.
20:35.51KolthYes, I was referring to the LUA portion.
20:35.59malicorright now for all registered events i will call myOnEvent(event)
20:36.35malicornow the event string is something like CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE
20:36.54malicorbut what i want is the TYPE of the event... i want "Autoshoot (Rank 3)"
20:36.58malicorhow do i get that ?
20:37.07KolthYou can't get rank info from CHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE.
20:37.11CrispixIf Crispix picked up lunch; then Inquire what his lunch is; if not then; ignore crispix like normal.
20:37.13Crispix:P
20:37.14malicorhow do i get hte name ?
20:37.30KolthCHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE pops out values like, "Your {SPELL} {acts} for {damage} {type} damage"
20:37.44ckknightparsing arg1
20:37.51malicorhow to access those ?
20:37.58malicorarg1 is a always defined variable ?
20:38.00KolthAccess Crispix's lunch?
20:38.03ckknightyea
20:38.06malicorwhich i can access without passing it ?
20:38.08Crispixheh
20:38.14malicorthats freaking against all valid programming concepts
20:38.21ckknightagreed
20:38.26malicorthis oh-it-is-there-just-use-it stuff
20:38.28Kolthmalicor: I don't know for sure on what you have to do and what you don't have to do.
20:38.55malicori just try : out ("event: " .. event .. " name: " .. UnitName("target") .. " arg1:" .. arg1); for a second
20:39.21KolthCHAT_MSG_SPELL_SELF_DAMAGE's 'arg1' spits out localized combat log entries.
20:39.36KolthSo you can parse out the spell's name, not it's rank.
20:39.39Kolthits*.
20:40.29malicorthat works :)
20:40.41malicorwell, this is really frustrating actually
20:40.49ckknightwhy?
20:40.50malicorblizzard gives out halfcooked stuff
20:41.06malicorparse the stupid string ? why not make a well-defined api on blizzards side
20:41.09Josh_Borkewait, what'd i miss?
20:41.25krkathey've no interested in helping making those kind of addons
20:41.36malicoraye, they arent
20:42.44Josh_Borkewhy don't they want to provide rank information for SPELLCAST_START though?
20:43.04malicori have another problem, my freakin game is in german
20:43.06krkayay blue speaks about my addon: http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-en&t=37291&p=1&tmp=1#post37291
20:43.11malicori heard there's a way to make it english somehow ?
20:43.12krkaeu blue, but still
20:43.38krkajust download an english copy from someone
20:43.56krkapretty big download though i guess
20:45.33malicorhmm,ok
20:45.42IrielIf you want to track which actions the player does, you may be better off hooking UseAction and CastSpellByName
20:46.16krkacan you still hook those?
20:47.05krkahm, no reason to disallow it i suppose
20:47.26krkadont forget CastSpell btw
20:47.49IrielYes, the only stuff you can't hook is the movement functions
20:47.56ckknightI think it'll cause errors in 1.10 if you hook em
20:47.59Iriels/ is / are /
20:48.01Irielckknight : it wont
20:48.26krkaand mouse click actions
20:48.26Irielckknight : At least, not as far as I know, we haven't seen any clamour about it on the forum
20:48.28krkaand jump
20:48.33malicorHA, i found it
20:48.38krkaTurnOrCamera... whatever
20:48.40malicorcant be accessed on the my account on wow-europe.com
20:48.45Irielkrka : I class Jump and the mouse clicks as 'movement functions' 8-)
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20:49.04krkai understand jump, but mouse clicks? :P
20:49.19Irielmalicor : isn't the language in one of your config files? I believe Legorol knows how that works (at least, somewhat)
20:51.25malicorno, its 650mb download
20:51.38malicorlike i dont have AutoShoot in arg1 but Automatischer Schuss
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20:56.28malicorphew,downloading
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21:00.21TainWow, I have completely lost the code I was working on for implemention ActionButtons purely in Lua for 1.10.
21:00.27ckknight?
21:01.01krkagrep for it
21:01.17TainJust gone poof.  I had it saved in 2 different places as I was working and deleted both of them thinking both times, "I have it in the other place."
21:01.30ckknightwhat does your game being in German have anything to do with anything?
21:01.30krkaoh damn :/
21:01.34ckknightyou can still get the info from it
21:02.14TainAt least I have some of it in my head still so it will be easier to start over than first time around, but still.
21:03.46malicorits just confusing
21:04.38malicoris there anywhere an easy tutorial how to save/load information ?
21:04.56KolthIt's almost not tutorial-worthy.
21:05.09malicorEVERYTHING is tutorialworthy :)
21:05.19Kolth:)
21:05.22Kolthhttp://www.wowwiki.com/HOWTO:_Save_Variables_Between_Game_Sessions
21:05.23malicorlets rephrase: is there a place i should read about how to save/load information ?
21:05.41KolthNote:  The RegisterForSave function (Do not use this)
21:05.48KolthKeep that in mind and don't use RegisterForSave().
21:06.17malicorgreat, thanks :)
21:06.28ckknightdoes anyone still use that?
21:06.41KolthProbably. But it's just because they don't know.
21:06.49ckknightat least it's broken in 1.10
21:12.03malicorgnight, i go sleep:) thanks a lot for help
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21:52.43Shouryuuugh
21:54.32ForgottenLordsw0000t! I fixed my game pad!  here I come MC!
21:57.14Shouryuuthis makes me cry. very hard http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-interface-customization&t=343262&p=1&tmp=1#post343262
21:57.50ForgottenLordslol
21:58.03ForgottenLordsZOMGZ ! Mod authors update your mods!
21:58.09Shouryuulol
21:58.19ForgottenLordsclick the enable out of date mods...
21:59.49Shouryuuwhat event is triggered when you get hit?
21:59.58Shouryuuby physical dmg
22:00.50ForgottenLords<PROTECTED>
22:01.09ForgottenLordsand analyze arg1?
22:01.25Shouryuuthat's what I thought, but someone came in earlier asking the same question and said it didn't work...
22:02.26ForgottenLordshmm, well Im not an expert, and havnt tried it myself
22:02.53ShouryuuSounds good to me anyways so I'll do as if:P
22:14.03TainAlmost working action buttons in lua again.
22:22.26Shouryuuthe easist way to check if someone's hit you is to parse your log for numbers after a  CHAT_MSG_COMBAT_CREATURE_VS_SELF_HITS event?
22:24.24Josh_BorkeTain: cool
22:24.27Josh_Borkeokbye all
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22:30.44Shouryuuwould this work as a charge counter for Inner FIre? http://pastebin.com/625942
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22:40.11ShouryuuI detest XML
22:43.21CrispixXML detests you too. :P
22:43.36Shouryuuawwww
22:43.40ShouryuuI feel so lonely now
22:45.59AdrineIn patch 1.11 we're implementing a non-consumable version of the Aqual Quintessence, available to players once they become revered with the Hydraxian Waterlords. This item will be available from Duke Hydraxis, and should allow the weekly Molten Core runs for many players to be slightly more convenient.
22:46.05AdrineI...I am so happy right now.
22:46.08AdrineYou have NO. IDEA.
22:48.53Shouryuulol
22:50.22ckknightas happy as when we spent that night together?
22:50.25ckknight;-)
22:53.37ShouryuuHey, you said I was the only one!
22:55.26Shouryuuwill http://pastebin.com/625982 and http://pastebin.com/625983 work as InnerFire Charge counter/shower?
22:55.36Shouryuushower= as in something that shows
22:58.38Shouryuuwell gimme a heads up before I fall asleep
23:05.45JoshBorkewhere does it set the number of charges? but that's close enough
23:07.15Shouryuuthe charges are set on the first and 22 line
23:07.26ShouryuuI need to reset them though
23:08.18JoshBorkethat's what i mean, reset them
23:08.30Shouryuuaye
23:08.34MentalPowerAdrine: link?
23:08.42JoshBorkeanyway, later :D
23:08.57Shouryuu<PROTECTED>
23:10.44Legorolmorning
23:10.53MentalPowermorning Legorol
23:12.23Shouryuu<PROTECTED>
23:14.04AdrineMentalPower: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=7640028&P=1
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23:22.00MentalPowerthanks Adrine
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23:23.10KirkburnNoooooooo! No more Caydiem! Nooooo!
23:23.36KirkburnIt's a sad day for WoW
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23:24.42KirkburnWho will answers everyone's lore questions?!
23:25.22Shouryuu|Sleepwhy were what when?
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23:26.53Shouryuu|Sleepawww that sucks
23:27.05KirkburnShe's leaving!
23:27.14Kirkburnhttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?FN=wow-general&T=7640923
23:27.27KirkburnWell, not leaving Blizzard at least
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23:28.13malrethmalreth's still at work and it's after 4 pm? how can this be!?
23:28.15LegorolCaydiem departs CM position: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=7640923&p=1&tmp=1#post7640923
23:28.45Legorolbeaten by Kirkburn...
23:28.51Kirkburn:P
23:29.27Legorolpatch tomorrow! confirmed: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=7641370&p=1&tmp=1#post7641370
23:29.28KirkburnI hope we'll still see her on the forums though
23:29.33Legorolha, beat ya!
23:29.44KirkburnYAAAY!
23:29.50KirkburnYou win this time :D
23:30.04KirkburnTime to upload ClearFont!
23:30.09Shouryuu|Sleepw00t
23:30.09Shouryuu|Sleepcool
23:30.19KirkburnSad news and good news :)
23:30.51Shouryuu|Sleeplol " OMG FIRST!!!!1`11111"
23:32.25KirkburnNo-one from wowi here? Might be a good idea to notify Cair
23:33.20Shouryuu|Sleepaye
23:33.30Shouryuu|Sleepleave her a memo
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23:35.35KirkburnJust did worldofwar ... is she "Cairen1"?
23:37.04ckknightif anybody knows French and would like to do some translating for BossPanel, I'd really appreciate it.
23:38.20ckknighthuzzahs are in order!
23:38.33ckknightlet us praise our dark lord, I deliver myself into your hands
23:38.44ckknightmy father a demon, my mother a jackal
23:38.48clad|sleepi love you!
23:38.52clad|sleepI really do!
23:38.54clad|sleep*cry*
23:39.02ckknightlol
23:39.03cladhaireHow is everyone this evening?
23:39.07ckknightwell
23:39.10ckknightdo you know French?
23:42.05Legorolhi clad, the end is near!
23:42.07Legorolpatch 1.10 tomorrow
23:42.27ckknightfinally.
23:43.02Legorolalthough Eyonix's wording is a bit... weird
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23:48.58KirkburnHellooo!
23:49.20Guillotineoh no. patch tomorow
23:49.26Kirkburnheh
23:49.33Cairennit doesn't actually say that guys
23:49.39Guillotineyes it does
23:49.41KirkburnBut no more Cay-Cay :(
23:49.44Cairennno, it doesn't
23:49.46Guillotinehttp://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-general&t=7641370&p=1&tmp=1#post7641370
23:49.51Guillotine"Patch tomorow"
23:49.53Cairennand yeah, I knew that for a while now
23:50.05KirkburnBut of course :)
23:50.20KirkburnEyonix would have corrected people if it wasn't true
23:50.56KirkburnThey never directly say it anyway, *just in case*
23:51.16Cairenn"will begin at 3:00 am PST **in order to prepare** for the 1.10 patch, and the following list of realms will remain down until 2:00 pm pst *as additional maintenace is required*" ... that doesn't say the patch is tomorrow, it says they are getting ready for it, it could be next week for all that says :p
23:51.17KirkburnSo the idea that they're preparing for it is the only way they can say it
23:51.46KirkburnThey've never said "the patch is tomorrow" in direct wording iirc
23:51.52Cairennand yes, I knew about Cay, she's one of my RL friends/long time guild mate over many games besides just wow :p
23:52.11Wobin_What no Cay?
23:52.12KirkburnAt least she's not going proper away
23:52.23KirkburnShe's going up ^
23:52.36Wobin_Being promoted?
23:52.37Kirkburn(well, Block said she levelled)
23:52.43GuillotineCairenn: so the patch isn't tomorow? "Patch Tomorow" is a kind of confusing title then :/
23:52.52KirkburnLol!
23:53.03Kirkburn<-- Blind
23:53.04AdrineThe title of the thread is "Patch tomorrow"
23:53.09Cairennwell crap, I didn't notice the title
23:53.10Cairenn:p
23:53.20KirkburnSecure the servers!
23:53.22zespri_workKiriburn, how "Patch Tomorrow!" can be more direct?
23:53.30KirkburnYes, okay :)
23:53.36zespri_workoh
23:53.41zespri_workI'm slow =)
23:53.51Cairennbut just going from the actual wording, it *could* have meant they weren't doing it tomorrow, but next week or the week after or ...
23:54.05KirkburnTis true
23:54.12Wobin_Well
23:54.18Cairennanyway, no matter
23:54.20Wobin_They never specify 'which' patch
23:54.23Wobin_for the title
23:54.28Wobin_it could be 1.9.999
23:54.35KirkburnI don't suppose you're able to say anything about Cay then?
23:54.43CairennI was just being "factual" (and thus facetious)
23:54.44zespri_workit's very unlikely from the history of how patches are nade
23:54.48zespri_work*made
23:55.22KirkburnThe Storms of Azeroth are a-coming :D Pity I have to wait one more day than everyone else
23:55.30KirkburnBut then again, I have an exam on wednesday
23:56.04Guillotineso what addons is this patch going to ruin? pretty much just the movment hooking ones, yes? it seems that things like Discord shouldn't have much of a problem
23:57.16KirkburnAnd mine.
23:57.32KirkburnFor those not-in-the-know, anyway
23:59.55GenNMX|ThraeHow is it going to defeat movement-hooking functions?

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