| 00:00.52 | Miravlix | ugh, don't answer, I've to many projects already. |
| 00:02.18 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 00:11.56 | Kirov | hmm, no iriel |
| 00:12.21 | Kirov | scroll frames do appear to be done with a rendering trick |
| 00:12.36 | krka | what kind of trick? |
| 00:13.09 | Kirov | it renders the entire scroll frame child, then crops it |
| 00:13.16 | Kirov | in the renderer |
| 00:13.19 | AnduinLothar | typical |
| 00:13.29 | AnduinLothar | that's how you're sposed to do tickers too |
| 00:13.53 | Kirov | Yeah, but it means his idea about combining scroll frames and faux scroll frames is valid |
| 00:13.59 | krka | how did you figure that out? |
| 00:14.07 | Kirov | spinning texture |
| 00:14.09 | AnduinLothar | it's actually faster to render than setting text on a perline basis |
| 00:14.11 | Kirov | in the scroll frame |
| 00:14.27 | krka | got buggy? |
| 00:14.32 | Kirov | No, it didn't |
| 00:14.44 | Kirov | It would of had it been done in the layout engine |
| 00:14.50 | krka | yeah |
| 00:15.05 | Kirov | And the overhead of doing the spinning texture would of disappeared if it wasn't on screen |
| 00:15.08 | krka | are you sure it draws stuff that are entirely outside? |
| 00:15.18 | Kirov | which when it's scrolled off it doesn't |
| 00:16.09 | krka | out of curiousity, where are you from? |
| 00:16.15 | Kirov | er |
| 00:16.19 | Kirov | Mars |
| 00:16.33 | krka | fine, don't tell :P |
| 00:16.43 | Kirov | Nice little crater south of the north pole |
| 00:16.49 | Kirov | hehe |
| 00:16.57 | Kirov | Like what company or what city? |
| 00:17.04 | krka | country would be fine |
| 00:17.22 | Kirov | US, "northern" california |
| 00:17.52 | Kirov | Probably with in an hour of Iriel |
| 00:18.11 | krka | i was wondering if native english speakers more often spells stuff by how they are pronounced |
| 00:18.35 | krka | sorry for going off topic :) |
| 00:18.50 | AnduinLothar | not really sure it's fair to use that metric on such a wide body of people, but w/e |
| 00:19.19 | krka | so, are items outside scrollframe visible (IsVisible or IsShown or something) |
| 00:19.23 | AnduinLothar | people get used to something and stick with it until they are forces or inspired to change |
| 00:19.47 | krka | fair doesn't apply, since i don't actually use my guesses for anything |
| 00:20.14 | AnduinLothar | well there's the aspect of choice and there's the aspect of memory |
| 00:20.18 | Kirov | IsShown() |
| 00:21.36 | Kirov | i jus spel badd |
| 00:21.45 | krka | heh |
| 00:21.52 | krka | nah you don't |
| 00:23.18 | krka | actually, i only noticed you wrote "would of" instead of "would have" |
| 00:24.48 | AnduinLothar | that's more of an education and memory thing |
| 00:24.59 | krka | yes |
| 00:25.00 | Kirov | Ok, so, to be more precise, me good at grammar. |
| 00:25.29 | AnduinLothar | judging the native speaker's avg grammer grasp would be ok |
| 00:25.42 | AnduinLothar | rather that "spells stuff by how they are pronounced" |
| 00:25.48 | AnduinLothar | than* |
| 00:25.50 | krka | i've noticed the same thing about myself... people who learn swedish tend to have a better fundamental grasp of the grammar than i do |
| 00:25.56 | krka | i just "know" what's right |
| 00:26.20 | krka | yeah sorry, i did a bad job of explaining what i meant there |
| 00:26.22 | AnduinLothar | i've taken a lot of engligh classes and had good teachers |
| 00:26.31 | AnduinLothar | but that doesn't mean i can spell |
| 00:26.36 | AnduinLothar | or type |
| 00:26.54 | AnduinLothar | or follow capitolization rules in chat rooms |
| 00:27.05 | krka | heh |
| 00:27.25 | AnduinLothar | the grammer tho, is more of a choice here |
| 00:27.50 | AnduinLothar | the spellign is either typing issues or pure forgetfulness |
| 00:28.32 | krka | i wasn't trying to enforce perfect grammar and stuff here, just making an interesting (to me) observation |
| 00:29.13 | AnduinLothar | no, i agree, a study might be interesting, provided it correctly distinguisted choice and practice from education |
| 00:29.19 | AnduinLothar | which would be difficult |
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| 00:31.36 | krka | time for sleep now |
| 00:32.01 | AnduinLothar | night krka |
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| 00:47.05 | catch23 | does wow scripting abilities have any kind of ability to talk to outside programs? or web services of some sort? |
| 00:47.25 | Kirov | no |
| 00:47.27 | Miravlix | No |
| 00:47.33 | AnduinLothar | nO |
| 00:47.54 | catch23 | can it be hacked to write to some file on the file system? or is that not even possible |
| 00:48.13 | AnduinLothar | screenshots |
| 00:48.15 | AnduinLothar | reloadui |
| 00:48.22 | AnduinLothar | but i don't recommend it |
| 00:48.30 | catch23 | lol, i can't do to ipc through screenshots.... |
| 00:48.35 | Miravlix | Hacking wow gets you banned |
| 00:48.45 | catch23 | err i didn't mean hack in the way |
| 00:48.55 | AnduinLothar | ipc? |
| 00:49.15 | catch23 | hack as in, writing to a file descriptor, and then having another program read the file descriptor. (ipc = interprocess communication) |
| 00:49.16 | Miravlix | Using third party programs combined with addons is not legal, even if there is a bug that allows it somehow |
| 00:49.17 | AnduinLothar | well, you can write to saved variables, but it's not in realtime |
| 00:49.54 | catch23 | so there's probably no way to some how fit jabber into the wow interface huh? :P |
| 00:50.06 | AnduinLothar | nope |
| 00:50.19 | AnduinLothar | it's been tried, they close all the holes we find |
| 00:51.26 | AnduinLothar | http://www.cosmosui.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11156 |
| 00:51.37 | Miravlix | What you do is overlay the addon so it works seperately from WoW |
| 00:51.56 | Miravlix | That way you can do some things |
| 00:52.13 | catch23 | hm, i'm not that familiar with windows programming to do that kind of stuff |
| 00:52.45 | catch23 | i only know the cross platform languages :P (ruby, python, java) |
| 00:52.55 | AnduinLothar | pyhton ftw |
| 00:52.56 | Miravlix | Most programs has a build in stay on top feature |
| 00:53.08 | Miravlix | Most programs of this type |
| 00:53.20 | AnduinLothar | you'd have to code it in opengl or directx |
| 00:53.23 | Miravlix | But many of them is a bit big for it by default |
| 00:54.34 | catch23 | i know opengl, but i don't think writing opengl code will get my window to appear over the wow interface.... |
| 00:54.34 | AnduinLothar | it's complicated |
| 00:54.34 | AnduinLothar | and i don't know the details |
| 00:54.41 | AnduinLothar | google is your friend "opengl screen overlay" |
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| 00:55.33 | Tain | I use directx wallhack in WoW to get the jump on Core Hounds |
| 00:55.34 | AnduinLothar | heya leg |
| 00:59.36 | Miravlix | I think some Instant Messenger software and others already support overlaying |
| 00:59.47 | AnduinLothar | xfire |
| 01:01.51 | catch23 | well i would rather have my own interface, than use xfire... it's sorta for a custom application |
| 01:02.07 | AnduinLothar | good luck. |
| 01:03.04 | catch23 | it's basically used for some live campers of our hardcore raiding guild :P |
| 01:03.25 | AnduinLothar | live campers? |
| 01:03.51 | catch23 | ya know, people that sit around and camp with a book/tv in front of them |
| 01:04.51 | AnduinLothar | camp what? |
| 01:05.20 | Gryphen | hehe |
| 01:05.21 | catch23 | the green dragons of course :P |
| 01:05.45 | AnduinLothar | O.o |
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| 01:50.58 | AnduinLothar | i hate that java wont let me return multiple values... it makes for so much extra code |
| 01:52.41 | catch23 | just return an object array? |
| 01:52.49 | AnduinLothar | more code |
| 01:53.06 | AnduinLothar | esp if they aren't the same type |
| 01:53.37 | catch23 | generally, it's bad practice though. I don't recall ever having to do such a thing |
| 01:53.59 | Tuatara | yah... never have remembered a time where I have needed to return multiple values. |
| 01:54.21 | JoshBorke | how do I hook the MouseEnter event for a frame? |
| 01:54.39 | JoshBorke | i tried frame:SetScript("OnMouseEnter",myFunc) but it gives me an error that the frame does not have that handler |
| 01:55.25 | Tain | Try OnEnter instead |
| 01:55.31 | JoshBorke | 'Frame doesn't have a "OnMouseEnter" script' |
| 01:56.12 | JoshBorke | ko |
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| 01:58.00 | JoshBorke | ( Tain ): danke :-D |
| 01:58.11 | Tain | You're welcome! |
| 01:59.07 | AnduinLothar | i don't think my programming methods are java friendly |
| 01:59.37 | AnduinLothar | i keep trying to abstract things with loops and it just makes things twice as complicated |
| 02:00.20 | catch23 | usually that's when I format my computer and sit outside with a bottle of whiskey |
| 02:00.32 | AnduinLothar | assignment's due soon |
| 02:01.16 | AnduinLothar | and i didn't feel liek writing a backtracking scanner |
| 02:01.54 | Tain | I like catch23's coding style. |
| 02:03.34 | JoshBorke | ( Tain ): the problem with speak, perhaps he should reset his visor settings? maybe he's got some sort of script running |
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| 02:03.59 | JoshBorke | wb Cairenn :D |
| 02:04.01 | AnduinLothar | mmm, no wiskey here... got mike's hard lemonade.. |
| 02:04.19 | Cairenn | thanks JoshBorke |
| 02:04.59 | Tain | JoshBorke I made myself take a break from thinking aabout it when he said that he'd never even used the previous versions. |
| 02:05.15 | catch23 | lemonade aint gonna clear your system of bad habits. you need something strong... something that can clean auto grease just from the fumes |
| 02:05.17 | Tain | It would have been nice to know right up front if it was an actual "issue" introduced with the changes I was making or not. |
| 02:06.41 | AnduinLothar | well, the problem is they're good habits in lua and python... but they're bad habits for java and C... |
| 02:07.46 | JoshBorke | ( Tain ): lol, yea |
| 02:07.51 | catch23 | multiple return values is a good habit in python? I don't recall that .... |
| 02:08.43 | JoshBorke | ( Tain ): which version wouldy ou like the most testing on? |
| 02:08.54 | AnduinLothar | you abstract a for loop to it's own function and then you can use it in an if statement, while still extracting other useful info so you dont have to repeat the loop half the time |
| 02:09.39 | Tain | JoshBorke: The test3 (I think?) whatever the last one I posted is the one that I'd want to go with. |
| 02:09.55 | JoshBorke | ko, and it's still just /vz barchange? |
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| 02:09.58 | catch23 | are you talking about recursion? because recursion is definitely possible in java :P |
| 02:10.13 | AnduinLothar | no no, not recursively |
| 02:10.19 | JoshBorke | well, with the correct name of course |
| 02:10.32 | AnduinLothar | usually involving itterations |
| 02:10.42 | catch23 | i wouldn't consider lua a great source for programming knowledge either :P |
| 02:10.54 | AnduinLothar | no, but it's simple |
| 02:10.56 | JoshBorke | ( Tain ): do you have a link to the working abinfo handy? |
| 02:11.39 | Kirov | iriel - rotating textures in a scroll frame works with out any issues, and appears to take the same amount of time when it's visible, partially off the page, or completely scrolled off, which makes me believe the entire thing is rendered then put in. |
| 02:12.40 | Kirov | Though, I haven't if it's still there when off the screen. |
| 02:13.23 | Iriel | Kirov : Good observation, that means it probably does what we discussed it might |
| 02:13.48 | Crispix | oooh. Ahhh.. I'm buying my new puter case tongiht :O |
| 02:13.57 | Kirov | crispix - which? |
| 02:14.06 | Crispix | hold on a sec and I'll link ya :D |
| 02:14.19 | Kirov | Iriel - one thing that still needs to be tested is how it handles exceptionally long scrollframechilds |
| 02:14.34 | Tain | JoshBorke: http://www.crushingdreams.com/Visor/ABIVisor.zip |
| 02:14.44 | AnduinLothar | catch23, basicly it comes down to too much scripting.. |
| 02:14.47 | Tain | That's the addon, still have to d/l ABI itself. |
| 02:15.07 | Kirov | though it probably just renders it out as long as the current resolution allows, positioned accordingly |
| 02:15.29 | Crispix | Kirov-- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811133158 |
| 02:16.42 | Kirov | Crispix - why a desktop case (vs a tower) |
| 02:17.03 | Crispix | It's going to sit ontop of my hub and my sattelite resever |
| 02:17.12 | AnduinLothar | cause, he needs his monitor higher and wants to get rid of the phonebooks |
| 02:17.18 | Kirov | that's a big hub |
| 02:17.20 | Crispix | haha |
| 02:17.28 | Crispix | no... It's an 8 port hub :) |
| 02:17.29 | Kirov | anduin - hehe |
| 02:17.38 | Kirov | then that's a small case |
| 02:17.44 | Crispix | yup |
| 02:17.51 | Crispix | current puter is a shuttle |
| 02:18.16 | Kirov | which one? |
| 02:18.20 | Kirov | and why are you replacing it? |
| 02:18.26 | Crispix | Olllds school |
| 02:18.30 | Crispix | It was built in 2002 |
| 02:18.48 | Kirov | why not another shuttle then? |
| 02:19.00 | Crispix | I want room for expansions.. and 3 hard drives :) |
| 02:19.09 | Kirov | ah |
| 02:19.14 | Crispix | got 3 200 gigs coming in |
| 02:19.29 | Kirov | lol |
| 02:19.36 | Kirov | got a lot of porn or something? |
| 02:19.44 | Crispix | nah.. just love space.. |
| 02:19.57 | Crispix | Going to call my new computer 'Moirae' |
| 02:20.17 | Crispix | The hd's will be named Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos |
| 02:20.39 | Kirov | http://www.jeffyorkes.com/images/JY3D_CreatureComforts2.jpg - space? |
| 02:20.43 | Crispix | http://www.pantheon.org/articles/m/moirae.html |
| 02:21.02 | Crispix | lol kirov |
| 02:23.45 | JoshBorke | i'm getting a failed CRC check on an unzip of coolDown from wowi |
| 02:23.47 | Tain | 250gb SATA harddrives for $85! I should buy a super-RAID |
| 02:24.02 | Kirov | I'm using the older version of this. |
| 02:24.03 | Kirov | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811112100 |
| 02:24.03 | Kirov | I call it Monolith. |
| 02:25.05 | Crispix | ya know.. I think I'm gunna buy my case directly off the manufacture |
| 02:25.19 | Tain | Ah yes, I bought my first Lian-Li case 6 years ago or so and it still is perfect. |
| 02:25.28 | Kirov | Customized it's Windows startup screen, login, log off screens |
| 02:25.28 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/Startup.jpg |
| 02:25.28 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/Login.jpg |
| 02:25.28 | Kirov | http://cyberartist.shackspace.com/etc/ShutDown.jpg |
| 02:25.30 | Crispix | That way I have the safety that it'll arrive.. well.....ya know..NOT BROKEN -_- |
| 02:25.55 | Tain | Although I bought this one this last time. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119029 |
| 02:25.57 | Kirov | Tain - yeah, I can think of a good reason to ever replace this case |
| 02:26.19 | Kirov | Tain - That's the one my girlfriend has |
| 02:26.38 | Tain | So now I have two! :D |
| 02:26.40 | Iriel | Hm, i've never had Newegg ship me broken stuff |
| 02:26.47 | Crispix | http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Chassis/desktop/mystic/rh-d050-2sn.asp o_o |
| 02:27.04 | Kirov | Though an older one with a a bottom intake instead of a front intake, so it's sitting on a drill case |
| 02:27.05 | Tain | I'm afraid I've shied away from NewEgg now that they don't do the free FedEx supersaver. |
| 02:27.12 | Tain | I've bought a lot from them over the years though. |
| 02:27.31 | Kirov | I use ZipZoomFly when I can |
| 02:27.43 | Tain | I've just started using them in the last month, Kirov |
| 02:27.46 | Kirov | Their inventory isn't as extensive as newegg's |
| 02:27.50 | Crispix | Anyone know any places to get cool desktop cases? |
| 02:28.03 | Kirov | But their prices are sometimes better and they still have free shipping on most items |
| 02:28.04 | Crispix | Maybe ones with red LEDs instead of blue? |
| 02:28.10 | Tain | And so far I've had good luck with everything. Even got my free ZipZoomFly paperclip holder. |
| 02:28.12 | Kirov | NewEgg's shipping is still loads better than most people |
| 02:28.29 | Kirov | Crispix - good luck with that. |
| 02:28.34 | Kirov | blue is "in" these days |
| 02:28.53 | Kirov | the red led cases seem to be either really shoddy ones they make every color of, or custom jobs |
| 02:29.11 | Tain | While we're on the subject of purchasing... I pulled the trigger on a Dell 2005FPW 20.1" widescreen LCD tonight. |
| 02:29.25 | Crispix | :O |
| 02:29.26 | Kirov | lol |
| 02:29.35 | Crispix | I get discounts from dell...... |
| 02:29.44 | Crispix | I <3 being a eb/gamestop employee |
| 02:29.59 | Crispix | I also get discounts at barns and nobel and Alien(overpriced)ware. |
| 02:30.02 | Tain | The only thing that annoys the hell out of me is they charge me sales tax. |
| 02:31.15 | Kirov | I'm using a Viewsonic VP201s |
| 02:31.26 | Kirov | Basically a Dell 2001FP |
| 02:31.42 | Kirov | Went with viewsonic just because they were cheaper at the time |
| 02:32.42 | Kirov | Though, basically everyone but Sony and Sharp use LG screens. heh |
| 02:32.50 | AnduinLothar | ya, i have an Apple 20" which is basicly the same as the Dell 2005FPW |
| 02:33.04 | Crispix | I <3 My sony 2001FP. |
| 02:33.14 | Crispix | 20 inches of non widescreen goodness.. but still sexy |
| 02:33.32 | Kirov | A friend of mine runs duel 2005FPWs |
| 02:33.34 | Kirov | heh |
| 02:34.32 | Crispix | So.. back on subject... |
| 02:34.41 | Kirov | I've been trying to find a really good lcd lately, one with good response times that isn't just marketing |
| 02:34.45 | Crispix | Anyone know where to get some really spiffeh looking desktop cases? |
| 02:34.57 | Crispix | or should I go with new egg? |
| 02:35.10 | Kirov | So far, all the super fast screens actually suck in their real response times |
| 02:35.41 | Iriel | My HP2335 is just fine for gaming |
| 02:35.44 | Kirov | some of the billed 4ms screens can only do that for white to black. their actual response times are more like 30 |
| 02:36.03 | Kirov | My VP201s and any of the 12-15ms Dells are fine too |
| 02:36.27 | Kirov | My girlfriend is especially annoyed by ghosting though |
| 02:36.49 | Kirov | and I have to say I still see it, especially in black-nearblack transitions |
| 02:37.15 | Kirov | not to mention this lcd screen isn't terribly good at black levels. |
| 02:37.36 | Iriel | few are |
| 02:37.36 | Kirov | It's really dark, with good contrast ... but it hits black at about 90% grey |
| 02:37.54 | Kirov | yeah |
| 02:38.16 | Kirov | I'm currently feening for FED or SED displays to come out |
| 02:38.29 | Kirov | SED should be out mid next year, maybe the end of this year |
| 02:38.51 | Kirov | FED ... well, that's looking more like 2008 |
| 02:39.12 | Kirov | Though Sony is looking to replace all their Plasma, and probably all of their LCD with FED by 2010 |
| 02:39.45 | Kirov | Crispix - Go with Newegg or ZipZoomFly |
| 02:40.16 | Kirov | crispix - Though the fact that someone got a product with a broken door is probably a bad thing, I honestly feel that's more an issue with the case itself than newegg |
| 02:40.51 | Kirov | My experience with cases has been the decent ones get a box good enough to prevent that regardless of what happens to it. |
| 02:41.13 | Gryphen | i had a bad return experience with newegg about defective speakers |
| 02:41.34 | Gryphen | just starting to order things from them again, but use zimzoomfly if i can |
| 02:41.46 | Kirov | returns to online vendors is a consistant issue. |
| 02:42.28 | Gryphen | i didnt have any trouble with a printer return with zipzoomfly |
| 02:43.13 | Kirov | Never really had to return anything, so it's not really something I can comment on from a personal view. |
| 02:45.35 | Kirov | crispix - http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=371225 |
| 02:45.44 | Gryphen | klipsch had a batch of bad speakers and i ended up having to pay for all shipping to get them replaced cause klipsch said newegg was not an authorized vendor though it said it was on neweggs site |
| 02:46.03 | Kirov | weird |
| 02:46.15 | Gryphen | had a defective xerox printer from zipzoomfly, they sent a new printer with full return packaging no cost to me |
| 02:46.30 | Kirov | zipzoomfly is a weird company |
| 02:46.36 | Gryphen | ya |
| 02:47.02 | Kirov | It lacks the cleanness of a lot of other web sites, and the whole "googlegear" issue of the past was odd. |
| 02:47.13 | Gryphen | yeah hehe |
| 02:47.21 | Kirov | But they have one of the highest ratings online for retailers |
| 02:47.56 | Kirov | Crispix - The price on ZipZoomFly is a little more expensive, but the shipping is free. |
| 02:48.12 | Kirov | And their 5-7 day stuff usually gets to me in about 2 days |
| 02:50.48 | Crispix | Kirov can you find me a really .. really nice black desktop case on zZF? |
| 02:52.21 | Gryphen | i really like the Antec Sonata case, i have bought 5 of them |
| 02:52.37 | JoshBorke | RARGH! a mage just got Mageblade even though he already had Staff of Dominance :-( |
| 02:52.37 | Gryphen | http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=140122 |
| 02:52.42 | JoshBorke | that makes me very sad |
| 02:53.11 | Kirov | a mage has sod/ |
| 02:53.12 | Kirov | ? |
| 02:53.28 | catch23 | if you want to make your case really quiet, you get rid of all your fans :-D |
| 02:53.44 | Kirov | catch23 - hehehe |
| 02:53.56 | catch23 | my computers only have 1 fan per computer |
| 02:54.03 | Kirov | http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=374504 |
| 02:54.36 | Kirov | catch - what kind of cases / cpus? |
| 02:54.49 | JoshBorke | ( Kirov ): yes, and is switching to mageblade |
| 02:54.49 | Kirov | And are you water cooling them? |
| 02:54.52 | catch23 | a mix of junk. nothing special |
| 02:55.13 | Kirov | Or just have old stuff that doesn't need more than one fan |
| 02:55.16 | catch23 | yeah all water cooled. the nice thing about water cooling is, you can put your radiator/fan in a different room |
| 02:55.33 | catch23 | I cooled 5 processors and 2 video cards using 1 pump and a car radiator |
| 02:56.08 | Kirov | lol! |
| 02:56.27 | catch23 | i got the pump from home depot, and the car radiator from ebay. pretty cheap |
| 02:57.50 | catch23 | and you can make things more quiet, by lining your hard drives with dynamat to reduce vibrations, and lining the case with sound foam, to reduce high frequency noise |
| 02:58.03 | Kirov | meh |
| 02:58.11 | Kirov | just submerge the entire thing in mineral oil |
| 02:58.14 | Kirov | fixed! |
| 02:58.27 | catch23 | heh, yeah but at least i can move my computers around easily :P |
| 02:58.36 | Kirov | ok |
| 02:58.38 | catch23 | dynamat and the foam stuff is really cheap anyway |
| 02:58.41 | Kirov | liquid nitrogen |
| 02:59.18 | Kirov | http://www.tomshardware.com/2003/12/30/5_ghz_project/ |
| 02:59.20 | catch23 | but yeah if you want to reduce noise, water cooling is the way to go.... |
| 02:59.59 | Crispix | Kirov trying to find a desktop machine... |
| 03:00.08 | Crispix | so it can go horizontal on the area I have picked out for it |
| 03:00.15 | Crispix | I don't have room for a tower :(( |
| 03:00.41 | Kirov | Crispix - then one you picked is good |
| 03:00.50 | Crispix | are there any others? |
| 03:00.55 | Kirov | There's one others |
| 03:00.56 | Kirov | other |
| 03:01.29 | Kirov | http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=141787 |
| 03:02.03 | Crispix | oooh thats sexy. |
| 03:02.10 | Crispix | the cooler thing is really icky though :( |
| 03:02.19 | Kirov | Yes |
| 03:02.28 | Kirov | they're fanless though |
| 03:02.35 | Crispix | Thats not good |
| 03:02.38 | Crispix | need fans |
| 03:02.51 | Kirov | No, it looks like ass because the entire thing is a big heat sink |
| 03:05.06 | Kirov | http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=141617 - this one too, though it's out of stock |
| 03:05.16 | Kirov | And it's a BX case |
| 03:05.56 | Kirov | or micro atx |
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| 03:07.57 | ckknight | hey, anyone have the link to the Orly the Owl thing? |
| 03:08.42 | Tain | No, not really. |
| 03:09.35 | Kirov | the blog? |
| 03:09.37 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:09.39 | ckknight | the blog |
| 03:10.21 | Kirov | http://siln.livejournal.com/237031.html |
| 03:15.53 | Crispix | OH MY :O |
| 03:16.02 | Crispix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.12 | Crispix | Thats ... REALLY nice |
| 03:16.21 | Kirov | microATX board though |
| 03:16.24 | Kirov | as a warning |
| 03:16.28 | Crispix | o_o |
| 03:16.29 | Crispix | damn |
| 03:16.41 | Crispix | microatx really limits my gfx card choices :( |
| 03:17.35 | Tain | Oh I have great plans for whenever I end up buying a house and having space to dedicate to a/v |
| 03:19.26 | Tain | It's too bad when I ripped 200 or so CDs to MP3 a few years ago I didn't know more at the time, just did a straight 192kb rip. I'll probably do them all over again to a higher quality Ogg |
| 03:20.07 | Tain | Or maybe hire illegal immigrants to do it for me for a few cents an hour |
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| 03:21.38 | Kirov | lol |
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| 03:22.16 | Crispix | hrm |
| 03:22.29 | Crispix | Kirov.. that one I liked so much also only has room for 2 internal bays |
| 03:23.15 | Kirov | I think it's a problem you're going to deal with when buying any desktop case |
| 03:23.28 | Kirov | The new shuttles have room for 3 hds though |
| 03:23.33 | Crispix | http://www.case-mod.com/store/thermaltake-tenor-vb2000bns-home-theater-case-black-p-1854.html |
| 03:23.50 | Crispix | has 3x 3.5 internal |
| 03:27.09 | Crispix | http://www.case-mod.com/store/thermaltake-tenor-vb2000bns-home-theater-case-black-p-1854.html :( purple :( |
| 03:27.29 | Kirov | ? |
| 03:27.40 | Crispix | look at the close up image |
| 03:27.45 | Crispix | its got purple :( |
| 03:28.09 | Kirov | the hd light? |
| 03:28.19 | Crispix | O_O |
| 03:28.21 | Crispix | hold ..... |
| 03:29.26 | Tain | You know in my silly non-thinking I was about to say, "Why would you need more than 2 HDs anyway?" |
| 03:29.51 | Tain | Of course I then spent half a second thinking about it and it was revised to, "Why aren't there sixteen hd bays?" |
| 03:30.10 | Crispix | o_o... crispy thinks he might... might of found a winner :o |
| 03:30.26 | Crispix | AND it comes with a 450 watt power supply |
| 03:30.55 | Crispix | Only comes with space for 2 internal hdd bays though |
| 03:30.56 | Crispix | http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=140116 |
| 03:31.45 | Crispix | looks sorta sexy |
| 03:34.36 | Kirov | er, you plan on having 2 dvds? |
| 03:35.12 | Kirov | Or, rather, 2 floppys |
| 03:37.59 | Crispix | hrm |
| 03:38.03 | Crispix | http://www.antec.com/us/productDetails.php?ProdID=92400 <--- thats nice |
| 03:38.32 | Crispix | 380 watt psu :(( |
| 03:38.52 | Crispix | well.. wait |
| 03:38.55 | Crispix | I could take that out |
| 03:39.37 | Kirov | Crispix - that's the same stats as the other one you just linked, save the psu |
| 03:39.47 | Crispix | ... true. |
| 03:40.02 | Kirov | 2 internal, 2 external |
| 03:40.15 | Kirov | if you don't plan on having 2 floppy drives, you have space for 3 hds |
| 03:41.03 | Crispix | Accommodates up to MicroATX |
| 03:41.05 | Crispix | crap... |
| 03:41.17 | Kirov | http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/M_M_PC-777.htm - just get this |
| 03:41.24 | Kirov | it's only FREAKIN' HUGE |
| 03:41.54 | Crispix | ooh lian li. :o |
| 03:42.02 | Crispix | Aka oobah sexy |
| 03:42.10 | Crispix | LMFAO |
| 03:42.14 | Crispix | its teh duster puter |
| 03:46.38 | Crispix | http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Mini_PC-V300.htm woah |
| 03:46.49 | Crispix | cd roms on the SIDE of the puter |
| 03:47.11 | Kirov | yeah, that's an oddity |
| 03:47.12 | Kirov | brb |
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| 03:51.03 | Crispix | I got something here that'll help you see my setup right now kirov |
| 03:51.41 | Crispix | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Xehirut/putersetuprightnow.jpg |
| 03:52.08 | Crispix | Sattelite reciever-> Hub-> puter |
| 03:52.20 | Kirov | I'll stand by my original statement ... that's a huge freakin' hub |
| 03:52.44 | Kirov | please tell me it's at least a router / switch |
| 03:52.50 | Crispix | yep |
| 03:52.55 | Crispix | I think so |
| 03:53.01 | Crispix | Yeah |
| 03:53.03 | Crispix | its a switch |
| 03:53.03 | Kirov | think so? |
| 03:53.08 | Kirov | switch, ok |
| 03:53.11 | Kirov | but still |
| 03:53.33 | Crispix | Friendlynet 10/100 Eithernet Switch |
| 03:53.36 | Crispix | 8 port :) |
| 03:56.31 | Crispix | If you want to see the mess that is my desk.. |
| 03:56.33 | Crispix | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v72/Xehirut/Desk.jpg |
| 04:01.33 | Crispix | Kirov.. you know of any reasonably priced .. cube machines? |
| 04:06.45 | Kirov | not really, no |
| 04:08.24 | Crispix | wow... |
| 04:08.26 | Crispix | http://www.xoxide.com/clear-computer-cases.html |
| 04:08.29 | Crispix | upper right.... |
| 04:08.31 | Crispix | yuch |
| 04:15.57 | Crispix | hey kirov |
| 04:16.01 | Crispix | I think I have a winner .... |
| 04:16.07 | Crispix | wanna see? |
| 04:23.08 | Kirov | sure |
| 04:25.00 | Kirov | you know 8 port gigabit switches are super small, heh |
| 04:25.13 | Kirov | that thing must be anchient, or design for rack mount |
| 04:27.25 | Crispix | Look up Thermaltake Mozart Media Lab VC4000SNS or VC4001SNS |
| 04:32.12 | Crispix | here .. |
| 04:32.14 | Crispix | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1710670&CatId=1507 |
| 04:39.53 | Ktron|afk | Anyone know if there's an easy way, preferably using Visor or perhaps lua, or rescaling the 'status bar text'? |
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| 04:57.54 | dukeku | anyone know what purgation isle is for? |
| 04:58.03 | dukeku | it's in hillsbrad... level 59 elite undead |
| 05:02.33 | Ktron|afk | nope |
| 05:03.04 | Ktron|afk | And I'm assume there's no easy 'rescale this text' thing in Visor... I know I can rescale frames, anyone know what frame the 'status bar text' is? |
| 05:04.08 | Wobin_ | th=<x> |
| 05:04.18 | Wobin_ | for text-height |
| 05:04.42 | Wobin_ | as for the precise name of the text, I don't know =) |
| 05:04.54 | Wobin_ | Youll have to look it up in Framexml |
| 05:05.58 | Miravlix | dukeku, I beleive it was once for a Paladin quest or something, but the new 'version' with th 59 elites... well no idea |
| 05:06.17 | dukeku | eh i've had a paladin since release...never had to go there |
| 05:06.30 | dukeku | AK/thottbot has them listed dropping level 30ish blues, but the last comments are from over a year ago |
| 05:07.43 | Miravlix | Yeah, it had some named guy at the end |
| 05:08.53 | Miravlix | I've farmed the place a few times, but never done the quest. |
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| 05:23.07 | Miravlix | Hey slouken |
| 05:23.16 | Ktron|afk | hey slouken |
| 05:24.29 | ImmoAzrael | slouken, any hopes to making an addon unload from memory after its loaded, instead of just disabling it for future sessions ? |
| 05:24.50 | ImmoAzrael | hehe |
| 05:25.02 | Miravlix | ImmoAzrael, Thats a programming problem, not a API issue |
| 05:25.19 | Miravlix | It's perfectly possible to write your addon so it unloads, except frames |
| 05:26.51 | ImmoAzrael | the problem i was having in an addon that Iriel was helping me with , was when i joined a raid group, a peticiluar addon was loaded. when i left the raid group, it was to unload on the event. |
| 05:27.17 | Miravlix | slouken, Can I get you to put ClearLines() on your list of things to check when you get back to work. Seems to me it doesn't Clear TextRigh# |
| 05:27.19 | ImmoAzrael | i was also having another problem, when in a raid group with the addon loaded, doing a /console reloadui would "break" the LoadOnDemand addon. |
| 05:27.24 | Iriel | The problem with that idea is that you can't RE load it again afterwards |
| 05:27.52 | slouken | Miravlix, post on the forum. |
| 05:28.01 | Tem | Miravlix: ClearLines has never cleared the right text |
| 05:28.05 | Tem | Miravlix: it just hides them |
| 05:28.08 | ImmoAzrael | Iriel, it would be nice though :) |
| 05:28.11 | Ktron|wow | So, I'm hoping to cheat the system and rescale the frame that contains the 'status bar text', ie player health/mana/rage/energy text... Anyone know what the frame for that text is? |
| 05:28.55 | Tem | cheat the system? |
| 05:29.18 | Miravlix | can't post to your 'home' forum. :p |
| 05:29.23 | Ktron|wow | s/cheat the system and / |
| 05:29.28 | Ktron|wow | s/cheat the system and // |
| 05:29.31 | Ktron|wow | damn |
| 05:29.37 | ImmoAzrael | you fail. |
| 05:30.20 | Tem | Ktron|wow: I'm pretty sure the FontStrings are direct children of PlayerFrame |
| 05:30.26 | Cairenn | Miravlix: so ask someone who can post on the US forums to post for you |
| 05:30.45 | Tem | if they aren't, they are likely children of the status bars they hover over |
| 05:30.58 | Ktron|wow | Tem, ie, I can't resize the text using something like Visor |
| 05:31.12 | Miravlix | Ktron: I dunno, but Archeoligist messes with them, so you can look it up there |
| 05:31.15 | Tem | Ktron|wow: I think FontStrings have a scale, don't they? |
| 05:31.20 | Ktron|wow | I'd have to run an addon or lua anyway that would actually change that scale |
| 05:31.21 | slouken | night night... |
| 05:31.26 | Tem | later slouken |
| 05:31.31 | Tem | happy Easter |
| 05:31.34 | Ktron|wow | slouken, night night, don't work too hard |
| 05:31.39 | slouken | thanks. :) |
| 05:31.55 | Cairenn | Tem: hehehe, you forgot, didn't you? |
| 05:32.06 | Tem | forgot what? |
| 05:32.16 | Cairenn | He's observing Passover, not celebrating Easter |
| 05:32.28 | Tem | not really |
| 05:32.31 | Tem | I just didn't know |
| 05:32.37 | Tem | a bad assumption I suppose |
| 05:32.50 | Miravlix | Why can't people have a happy easter anyway? |
| 05:33.12 | Cairenn | ah, thought you had been in channel over the Christmas/Hanukkah season when it came up |
| 05:33.28 | Tem | Cairenn: it's possible that I was here but ninja afk |
| 05:33.32 | ImmoAzrael | for me to have a happy easter, tomorrow we will defeat rag and he will drop netherwind pants.. |
| 05:33.38 | ImmoAzrael | for which i have waited 26 weeks for. |
| 05:33.42 | Miravlix | It's all those where is has religious significance it's a sad holiday. |
| 05:33.44 | Tem | and I often don't get around to reading the logs from when I'm not around |
| 05:33.48 | AnduinLothar | woah, these shishkibobs are hot |
| 05:33.56 | Cairenn | Tem: *nod* |
| 05:34.26 | AnduinLothar | lil too much red stuff |
| 05:34.34 | Tem | Spicy is good |
| 05:35.04 | Ktron|wow | Anyway, yeah, I'm pretty sure FontStrings have a scale, but I guess I'll have some work finding the right FontString and finding the function to scale it |
| 05:35.05 | AnduinLothar | it IS good, definitely clears your sinuses |
| 05:35.15 | Iriel | They do, yes |
| 05:35.24 | Tem | hrm, Anyone know when GetTrackingTexture is supposed to return good values? |
| 05:35.34 | Tem | I'm calling it at PEW and it's always returning nil |
| 05:35.40 | Tem | even when I have a tracking skill on |
| 05:36.04 | Iriel | Presumably when you get the appropriate tracking skill/aura event, did you check the blizzard code? |
| 05:36.20 | Tem | but only on initial login |
| 05:36.31 | Tem | seems after a reload it retuns the right info at PEW |
| 05:36.58 | Tem | I don't even know what the event is for tracking things |
| 05:37.00 | AnduinLothar | check TrackerToggle |
| 05:37.14 | Miravlix | Dunno, it seems like the UI cheats a lot on reload these days |
| 05:37.35 | Tem | anything that makes it faster is fine by me |
| 05:37.52 | AnduinLothar | SPELLS_CHANGED |
| 05:38.17 | Tem | is that guaranteed to fire everytime? |
| 05:38.30 | Tem | ie whether or not you have a tracking skill on |
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| 05:53.25 | Tem | hey Iriel you around? |
| 05:53.32 | Iriel | Partially |
| 05:53.48 | Tem | I've got a pattern that freezes the lua regex engine |
| 05:54.00 | Tem | and I haven't got a clue why |
| 05:55.01 | Tem | scratch that |
| 05:55.06 | Tem | it's something else that I'm missing |
| 05:55.37 | Tem | http://ace.pastebin.com/662608 |
| 05:55.50 | Tem | if you run foofunc with any parameter, it just hangs there |
| 05:57.25 | Iriel | You reset _ |
| 05:57.33 | Iriel | it's the key of your loop |
| 05:58.25 | JoshBorke | hehe |
| 05:59.34 | Tem | lol |
| 05:59.49 | Tem | I didn't write that |
| 05:59.58 | JoshBorke | of course not tem :D |
| 06:00.00 | Tem | but I've been bashing my head against it for a while |
| 06:00.23 | Cairenn | actually, Tem didn't |
| 06:01.18 | Tem | thanks Iriel |
| 06:01.51 | Iriel | np |
| 06:03.42 | Ktron|wow | So, on a scale of 1 to 10, how hard is it to make addons that change the tooltip text and position? |
| 06:04.10 | Tem | Ktron|wow: judging on how often I see addons fail so, so miserably at doing this, I'd give it an 8 |
| 06:04.21 | Iriel | i'd say between 6 and 8 |
| 06:04.26 | Miravlix | You want to change the tooltips position or the text in the tooltip? |
| 06:04.34 | Iriel | The challenge is the sheer number of other things that fight with you about its location |
| 06:05.20 | Ktron|wow | Both |
| 06:05.44 | Ktron|wow | All I really want to do is add in a line to the tooltip that says what guild a player is in if they're in a guild heh |
| 06:05.56 | Ktron|wow | and position it to somewhere more useful than the bottom corner |
| 06:06.22 | Ktron|wow | And I only seem to find addons that do the second that are grouped |
| 06:06.29 | Miravlix | Then you have to fight all other tooltip modifying addons |
| 06:06.30 | Ktron|wow | and I haven't found one to do the first effectively |
| 06:06.41 | Miravlix | Your better off going Auctioneer and a seperate tooltip |
| 06:06.57 | Kirov | if it's a personal mod, who cares |
| 06:07.08 | Ktron|wow | why would I use Auctioneer if I just want those 2 functions? |
| 06:07.18 | Miravlix | The Auc model |
| 06:07.23 | Miravlix | of using seperate tooltips |
| 06:07.40 | Ktron|wow | why would I need a second tooltip for that 1 change? |
| 06:08.05 | Miravlix | Because changing the main tooltip is a pain with all the addons that messes with it |
| 06:08.07 | Ktron|wow | a tooltip to just house the guildname would be... ridiculous |
| 06:08.32 | Tem | Ktron|wow: grab The Fizzwidget addon |
| 06:08.39 | Iriel | Adding the guild name is easy |
| 06:08.40 | Tem | Fizzwidget Guildentipper or something |
| 06:08.47 | Tem | it does it cleanly |
| 06:09.01 | Tem | aye, guild name is the easy part |
| 06:09.29 | Ktron|wow | awesome |
| 06:09.45 | Tem | Iriel: you're doing something bad in dtframestack |
| 06:09.57 | Tem | Iriel: it costs me 15 fps to turn it on |
| 06:10.09 | Iriel | It rebuilds the list a lot |
| 06:10.13 | Iriel | Dont turn it on all the time 8-) |
| 06:10.36 | Iriel | It has to scan all frames |
| 06:10.38 | Ktron|wow | I've found addons that let me reposition like tooltip mark 2, gypsy does/did, and a few others, I just was hoping for a stripped down solution, and I was curious to whether making an addon that just tries to anchor the addon to a frame I can position and hide would be |
| 06:10.40 | Iriel | so it's not going to be fast 8-) |
| 06:10.45 | Kirov | Watch for UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT, then do a guild = GetGuildInfo("mouseover") if guild then GameTooltip:AddLine(guild) end |
| 06:11.53 | Iriel | Or, even simpler, just hook the :SetUnit method |
| 06:12.48 | Miravlix | Gymnast controls the placement of tooltips. |
| 06:14.23 | Tem | Iriel: so... slow down the updates? |
| 06:14.41 | Iriel | The whole point is you bind it to a key and only show it when you need it |
| 06:14.46 | Ktron|wow | Miravlix, has it been updated in the last year? |
| 06:15.12 | Ktron|wow | got it I think |
| 06:15.16 | Kirov | local origSetUnit = GameTooltip.SetUnit |
| 06:15.16 | Kirov | function GameTooltip.SetUnit(self, unit) |
| 06:15.16 | Kirov | local ret = origSetUnit(self, unit); |
| 06:15.17 | Kirov | local guild, rank = GetGuildInfo(unit); |
| 06:15.17 | Kirov | if ( guild ) then |
| 06:15.17 | Kirov | GameTooltip:AddLine(rank.." of "..guild); |
| 06:15.19 | Kirov | end |
| 06:15.28 | Iriel | You need to call self:Show() at the end |
| 06:15.31 | Iriel | and use self:AddLine |
| 06:15.34 | Iriel | not GameTooltip:AddLine |
| 06:15.38 | Kirov | woops |
| 06:17.36 | Tem | Iriel: what about only updating while holding down a keybind, but keep the frame visible |
| 06:17.45 | Iriel | i could add that |
| 06:17.53 | Miravlix | Ktron|wow, All of Cosmos is constantly keept up to date with latest patch |
| 06:18.16 | Ktron|wow | Miravlix, yeah, I got it, I snagged and just raided the alpha version of cosmos for addons |
| 06:21.01 | Kirov | curious |
| 06:21.08 | Kirov | mouseover doesn't use SetUnit |
| 06:21.37 | Iriel | Oh, true, you need to cheat and use the event also, I forgot about that 8-( |
| 06:21.46 | Iriel | But the party frames, etc, do use SetUnit |
| 06:21.53 | Kirov | lol |
| 06:25.02 | Miravlix | Most addon makers seems to miss those |
| 06:25.12 | Miravlix | those = frame tooltips |
| 06:25.57 | Cairenn | I love TipBuddy, covers everything |
| 06:26.22 | Miravlix | I use FlagRSP it wipes the tooltip |
| 06:26.34 | Miravlix | so tooltip addons is pointless for me. |
| 06:27.52 | Ktron|wow | woot for gymnast |
| 06:28.08 | Ktron|wow | and fizzwidgets addon |
| 06:28.11 | Ktron|wow | and BuffOptions |
| 06:28.23 | Ktron|wow | no wait, BuffOptions is being dumb |
| 06:28.36 | Ktron|wow | I withdraw my support of BuffOptions |
| 06:29.21 | Ktron|wow | because BuffOptions thinks placing buffs on top of the minimap is better than below it |
| 06:29.46 | Miravlix | Hmm? |
| 06:30.06 | Miravlix | You have the minimap moved down? |
| 06:30.24 | Kirov | ktron - http://wow.pastebin.com/662649 |
| 06:31.12 | Ktron|wow | Thanks Kirov, I might run that instead of Fizzwidgets |
| 06:31.29 | Ktron|wow | Miravlix, I don't think so... I have squareminimap on, that's it |
| 06:32.37 | Ktron|wow | Miravlix, yeah, I don't know what BuffOptions problem is... I'll try disabling square minimap |
| 06:33.04 | Miravlix | Problm is, it doesn't take into account Minimap movers |
| 06:33.12 | Miravlix | But then we have MobileFrames to fix things |
| 06:35.00 | Ktron|wow | Miravlix, I didn't move the minimap, I just had it square... let's see if I can get it to screw up w/ it off too |
| 06:36.56 | Miravlix | MF allows us to support nothing more than basic UI |
| 06:37.15 | Miravlix | Then ppl can use MF for custom settings |
| 06:38.58 | Ktron|wow | meh |
| 06:39.31 | Ktron|wow | I'm not sure if I'm a fan of that thinking, but it's not really anything I should expect to have say in:) |
| 06:40.05 | Miravlix | Dumb to have the same code all over in many addons |
| 06:41.14 | Ktron|wow | Miravlix, that would be a library... MobileFrames isn't a library, is it? |
| 06:42.31 | Tem | oh wow... I never realized the frame metatable was a variable in the global env |
| 06:42.57 | Miravlix | MF has some nice recursive dependencies |
| 06:43.13 | Miravlix | So yeah sometimes it's a library, sometimes it depends on others. |
| 06:43.38 | Ktron|wow | Well... if MF is a library that is used by BuffOptions, it probably should be listed as such and I'm sorry |
| 06:43.43 | AnduinLothar | MF can be library, if you want to make your frames movable. BUt most people don't use it as such |
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| 06:44.01 | Miravlix | Most of Cosmos doesn't move |
| 06:44.11 | Miravlix | If you want to move stuff you enable MF. |
| 06:44.24 | Ktron|wow | It sounded the first time like you were saying 'Oh, it doesn't matter that Buff Options doesn't work place quite correctly by itself, we have MF to fix that' |
| 06:44.37 | Miravlix | Yes |
| 06:44.42 | AnduinLothar | only sorta |
| 06:44.57 | Miravlix | It does place itself in a barebone UI |
| 06:44.59 | Ktron|wow | and granted you can and it works, I just don't think I'm a fan of that kind of thinking |
| 06:45.18 | Miravlix | Thats what it support, customized UI requires MF to handle things |
| 06:45.36 | AnduinLothar | it should still work for a square minimap is it doesn't move or replace the minimapcluster |
| 06:45.55 | Ktron|wow | AnduinLothar, you lost me with that last sentence, sorry |
| 06:46.00 | Miravlix | Also with scaling? |
| 06:46.24 | Miravlix | I think our scaling support is pretty limited currently. |
| 06:46.50 | Ktron|wow | So maybe SquareMinimap has some scaling hidden in it that BuffOptions doesn't like |
| 06:47.21 | Ktron|wow | But the addon even says you can place relative or not to the Minimap, I would assume that 'not relative' should be independent of the Minimap |
| 06:47.33 | Ktron|wow | But it still bugs out |
| 06:47.45 | Ktron|wow | Ah well |
| 06:47.57 | AnduinLothar | using titan? |
| 06:48.16 | Ktron|wow | no, but I am using Fubar which might move it too, so it could be Fubar's fault |
| 06:48.22 | Miravlix | Having a bar on top of the screen changes the default placement of everything |
| 06:48.35 | Ktron|wow | But then again, it hasn't had a problem since I disabled Square Minimap |
| 06:48.51 | Ktron|wow | and it happened basically every new buff with SquareMinimap on |
| 06:49.16 | Miravlix | Heh, I'm not sure what happened anymore |
| 06:49.17 | AnduinLothar | SquareMinimap prolyl resizes the MiniMap Cluster |
| 06:49.46 | Kirov | doubtful |
| 06:49.52 | Ktron|wow | AnduinLothar, yeah, my guess is that you and Miravlix are right and it resizes the Minimap a little |
| 06:49.52 | Kirov | it's a texture replacement only |
| 06:50.17 | AnduinLothar | you would think.. |
| 06:50.21 | Kirov | hmm... can the uiparent get resized? |
| 06:50.46 | Kirov | and if so, what is it relative to? |
| 06:51.00 | Miravlix | You can UI Scale in the interface |
| 06:51.19 | Miravlix | settings, that changes many things. |
| 06:51.24 | Kirov | I was thinking SetHeigh() or moving the top down |
| 06:51.59 | Miravlix | Hmm, Ãnteresting. |
| 06:52.14 | Miravlix | Making the worldframe smaller to make room for a top bar |
| 06:52.21 | Miravlix | so the UI itself is none the wiser. |
| 06:52.29 | Kirov | well, the UIParent |
| 06:53.20 | Ktron|wow | The addon I have call... SetPoint, Hide, SetScript, SetTexture, and a SetScale |
| 06:53.31 | Ktron|wow | a MiniMapTrackingFrame:SetScale |
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| 06:53.55 | Ktron|wow | and the SetPoints go with MinimapZoneText and MiniMapTrackingFrame |
| 06:54.32 | AnduinLothar | bo prolly uses the side frames function |
| 06:54.37 | AnduinLothar | hooks* |
| 06:55.14 | Ktron|wow | http://wow.pastebin.com/662661 if it helps, I need to take off for a little |
| 06:55.44 | Ktron|wow | Thanks for the Fizzwidget Guildentip suggestion, and the Gymnast suggestion |
| 06:55.48 | Ktron|wow | they are perfect |
| 06:56.00 | AnduinLothar | glad to hear it |
| 06:56.14 | AnduinLothar | Gymnast has needed surprisingly little changes |
| 06:56.40 | Ktron|afk | One day I'll try running full Cosmos again and trimming out the parts I don't want, but for now, stealing the parts I do isn't too bad:) |
| 06:56.48 | Miravlix | Gymnast only problem is that tooltips is big vodo we do udo medo |
| 06:57.04 | AnduinLothar | huh? |
| 06:57.27 | Miravlix | There is always another addon out there that will break tooltips in some way |
| 06:58.42 | Miravlix | Gymnast is broken on my system, due to some non Cosmos addon, I haven't had time to track down the issue. |
| 06:58.50 | AnduinLothar | prolly, but Gymnast doesn't conflict with any of the content ones, and the methods in the default ui haven't changed for locating it |
| 06:59.10 | AnduinLothar | works with auctioneer and it's deps |
| 06:59.43 | Miravlix | Some addon was causing me to get a tooltip in the middle of the screen |
| 06:59.54 | Miravlix | Instead of where Gymnast tried to place it |
| 07:00.25 | Miravlix | I was suspecting one of Fizzwidgets addons for causing trouble |
| 07:00.41 | Miravlix | But never got around to tracking it down. |
| 07:01.47 | Miravlix | I also keep getting broken money on the edge of tooltips |
| 07:01.59 | AnduinLothar | that's oldschool |
| 07:02.16 | Miravlix | Someone is setting Money and not the size of the tooltip |
| 07:02.22 | AnduinLothar | but ya, it resizes so that the money is on the edge? I've seen that b4 |
| 07:03.00 | Miravlix | Do we still need to protect money? |
| 07:03.15 | AnduinLothar | nah |
| 07:04.14 | Miravlix | I was wondering if it was some oldschool tooltip protector? |
| 07:04.23 | Miravlix | tooltip money protector |
| 07:06.31 | AnduinLothar | mm, i should put a recent gymnast on curse.. that one's old |
| 07:06.45 | AnduinLothar | more old than i usually let them get |
| 07:08.49 | Kirov | Someone needs to write a "upload to all the damned mod sites" program |
| 07:10.07 | AnduinLothar | someone needs to make a "upload my 35 addons to all the damned mod sites and auto-update my screen shots and descriptions on the wiki" |
| 07:10.45 | Cairenn|sleep | Kirov: the problem is trying to get all the sites to go along with it. WoWI is more than happy to try to work with the other sites, but we seem to be pretty much the only ones =/ |
| 07:10.45 | AnduinLothar | and you wonder why the gymnast on curse is dated 3/05 |
| 07:12.14 | Cairenn|sleep | The thing you guys seem to keep missing, however, is that you don't really need to upload to all the sites. Pick whichever one(s) you want to support, and just use it/them. The users will follow where the authors go. |
| 07:12.31 | Cairenn|sleep | anyway, I'm out. Night all |
| 07:12.36 | AnduinLothar | night cair |
| 07:12.50 | Shouryuu_ | night |
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| 07:23.09 | AnduinLothar | k, Gymnast 2.7 is on curse, should make a few people happy |
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| 07:45.47 | Qzot | Anyone know if putting a 'unique' item in the bank allows you to pick up another? |
| 07:47.06 | Elviso | it does not |
| 07:47.43 | Elviso | the only way around it (that I know of), is to sell your unique item to a vendor, get the new one & mail it to an alt (or buyer), and then rebuy your original |
| 07:48.09 | Qzot | Egad. Somehow that makes me nervous with a 500g Arcanite Dragonling. |
| 07:48.45 | Elviso | I know people that do it all the time |
| 07:49.00 | Elviso | if you get disconnected just petition for the item |
| 07:49.01 | Qzot | Well, it's a trick I hadn't thought of. |
| 07:50.32 | Qzot | It seems that in the long run, it would be nice to find a way to be make BoE unique items for others that you've already bound. But *sigh*. |
| 08:05.31 | Cide | um |
| 08:05.48 | Cide | is anyone aware of any changes to CheckButtons (namely, the action buttons)? |
| 08:06.02 | Tem | like? |
| 08:06.05 | Cide | I can't get mine to get any OnDragStart calls |
| 08:06.16 | Cide | they're not disabled or anything |
| 08:06.32 | Cide | works fine if I call CheckButton:GetScript("OnDragStart")() |
| 08:06.34 | Tem | silly question: Did you remember to register for drag? |
| 08:07.11 | Cide | hehe, yes :) |
| 08:07.53 | AnduinLothar | LeftMouse or LeftMouseUp? |
| 08:08.46 | Cide | I think you saved my day, AnduinLothar |
| 08:09.05 | Cide | LeftMouse works, LeftMouseUp doesn't.. |
| 08:09.10 | Cide | god, that was stupid. thanks |
| 08:09.43 | AnduinLothar | drap is a Down event |
| 08:09.46 | AnduinLothar | drag |
| 08:13.27 | Elviso | anyone found anything fun to do in the console? |
| 08:13.46 | krka | hmm.. indenting lua code is harder than i thought |
| 08:15.30 | krka | have to remember to set the cursor back correctly |
| 08:15.42 | AnduinLothar | ? |
| 08:16.54 | krka | hm... is that even doable? |
| 08:17.07 | krka | can i get/set the text cursor in a editbox? |
| 08:17.11 | Tem | yes |
| 08:17.15 | Tem | it's tough |
| 08:17.16 | Tem | but doable |
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| 08:18.05 | krka | cant find any api-function |
| 08:18.10 | Tem | there isn't |
| 08:18.18 | Tem | you have to use highlight and insert |
| 08:20.18 | Syrsa | How do you execute code when your mouse is over a button but not clicking it? |
| 08:22.35 | Tem | krk |
| 08:22.39 | Tem | krka: http://wow.pastebin.com/662727 |
| 08:22.49 | Tem | Syrsa: OnEnter |
| 08:23.06 | Syrsa | Thank you (^_^) |
| 08:23.50 | AnduinLothar | does the Auctioneer tooltip database not transfer between chars on the same realm? |
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| 08:24.55 | Tem|Sleep | night everyone |
| 08:26.20 | krka | ah, i can always search for "\1"? |
| 08:26.44 | krka | then i probably won't have to do anything for my code, since i only transform the text |
| 08:27.07 | krka | night |
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| 08:30.18 | Kirov | what's \1? |
| 08:35.17 | krka | no idea |
| 08:35.29 | krka | seems it's the caret in a text |
| 08:55.27 | Cide | probably just a dummy character |
| 08:56.49 | Cide | who wrote LuaProfiler? I know it's someone in here, but I can't link the wowi name to the user in here :) |
| 08:57.24 | Cide | wereHamster? |
| 08:58.22 | krka | yeah, think so |
| 08:58.34 | krka | and people need to have the same name everywhere |
| 08:59.08 | krka | man... even if do succeed writing a syntax highlighter / indenter, would anyone use it? :( |
| 08:59.16 | krka | will probably be slow and create garbage |
| 08:59.23 | Cide | not sure |
| 08:59.28 | Cide | I don't really code inside wow |
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| 09:00.25 | krka | me neither |
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| 09:04.54 | Shouryuu_ | is there a way to password protect a excel file? |
| 09:05.04 | Shouryuu_ | woithout buyying/downloading some software? |
| 09:05.13 | Shouryuu_ | and without compressing it |
| 09:08.02 | wereMouse|sleep | morning |
| 09:08.17 | Shouryuu_ | hello |
| 09:08.31 | wereHamster | Cide, <= Shag |
| 09:09.57 | Kirov | krka - I'd use it |
| 09:11.03 | Kirov | I don't write my mods in wow, but I certainly test out concepts |
| 09:14.15 | Cide | wereHamster: thought so |
| 09:14.25 | Cide | for LuaProfiler, what exactly does the "Usage" field signify? |
| 09:15.44 | wereHamster | I don't know a good name for it, it's `time spend in the function itself` / (GetTime() - `time where I started tracing that function`) |
| 09:15.57 | Shouryuu_ | Will this print 1,2,3,4,5... http://pastebin.com/662767 |
| 09:16.39 | Cide | does it increase over time? |
| 09:16.46 | Shouryuu_ | no my bad |
| 09:16.47 | Cide | err, nevermind |
| 09:16.49 | wereHamster | not necessarily |
| 09:16.56 | Shouryuu_ | it sshould print 1 8 times |
| 09:17.21 | wereHamster | just how much of the game runtime has been spend in the function itelf |
| 09:17.50 | wereHamster | it's usually 0.000?% or so |
| 09:17.51 | Cide | Shouryuu_: that will error |
| 09:18.24 | Shouryuu_ | is the name creation the problem or is the value setting the problem? |
| 09:18.25 | wereHamster | although I've seen ActionButton_GetPagedID() use 0.1% ! |
| 09:18.32 | Cide | color ..hello.. ..i={} |
| 09:18.53 | Cide | first, you have two .. after each other (you probably want .." ".. ?) |
| 09:19.10 | wereHamster | setglobal(color..hello.." "..i, {}) |
| 09:19.16 | Shouryuu_ | not really, I want: Colorhello1 |
| 09:19.28 | wereHamster | setglobal(color..hello..i, {}) |
| 09:19.57 | Cide | wereHamster: well |
| 09:20.06 | Cide | a function of mine says |
| 09:20.08 | Cide | Usage: 1325.11 |
| 09:20.10 | Shouryuu_ | I'll just take a look at PIL |
| 09:20.22 | Cide | I can understand the percentage, but what's the number? |
| 09:20.40 | wereHamster | yeah, because 0.00000?? doesn't look nice |
| 09:20.50 | wereHamster | its the usage in percent multiplied by 1000000 |
| 09:20.52 | Cide | oh |
| 09:20.57 | Cide | ah, that makes sense I guess :) |
| 09:21.16 | Cide | this should prove useful.. thanks |
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| 09:21.19 | wereHamster | it will print the correct number to the chat frane though |
| 09:21.25 | Cide | yeah, saw that |
| 09:23.54 | wereHamster | .. I didn't want to add memory usage because gcinfo() reports KBytes and that's not precise enought now that we have nanosecond timing precision :) |
| 09:26.50 | krka | indentation and colouring works for code that contains no strings or comments now |
| 09:26.50 | krka | yay |
| 09:27.06 | AnduinLothar | yay |
| 09:27.43 | krka | and there was much yayage! |
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| 09:27.51 | wereHamster | yay |
| 09:28.25 | krka | the code is awful though :) |
| 09:28.33 | krka | i should use a state machine or something |
| 09:29.26 | wereHamster | now that we have loadstring we could make self-modifying addons or edit addons in wow :) |
| 09:29.51 | krka | this is not new |
| 09:29.56 | krka | we could do it with RunScript |
| 09:30.26 | wereHamster | I know, but loadstring is much nicer wrt error handling |
| 09:31.06 | krka | agreed |
| 09:31.32 | wereHamster | and with your wow lua editor.. ;) |
| 09:32.49 | krka | far from ready :( |
| 09:35.29 | Elviso | Can someone help me solve this mystery: http://wow.pastebin.com/662781 |
| 09:35.55 | krka | what about it? |
| 09:36.00 | Elviso | I've changed "sMsg" to a diff var name, same error...it's the only place it's used in the script (although that shouldn't matter) |
| 09:36.14 | Elviso | I've noted the error it throws on the line that throws it |
| 09:37.26 | krka | maybe the first parameter is a table? |
| 09:37.35 | krka | where is it called? |
| 09:38.03 | Elviso | the error is thrown during reloadui, it's not technically being called at all I dont think |
| 09:38.14 | krka | it must be |
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| 09:40.16 | Elviso | hrmm maybe I was over-zealous.... |
| 09:40.32 | Elviso | can you not set a table to a local reference, and then use that |
| 09:40.45 | Elviso | I'll post the full thing |
| 09:41.15 | wereHamster | any chance tou cann the function like this: Class:DCF() ? |
| 09:41.22 | wereHamster | s/cann/call/ |
| 09:42.40 | Elviso | http://wow.pastebin.com/662788 |
| 09:43.16 | Elviso | I am trying a new coding style, I might have the whole thing fubar'd |
| 09:43.17 | krka | yup... |
| 09:43.40 | Wobin_ | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-realm-nordrassil-en&t=13408&p=1&tmp=1#post13408 |
| 09:43.44 | krka | just do this # |
| 09:43.45 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:43.58 | Syrsa | Could it be another addon calling DCF with a table? I made a function dcf() for a similar purpose. It might be common. |
| 09:44.01 | wereHamster | gotta go.. |
| 09:45.18 | Elviso | Syrsa: I have another addon I wrote the has a DCF, but it's local to that addon (I think)....I call it via Clutch:DCF() |
| 09:45.39 | Elviso | Clutch being a table |
| 09:45.56 | krka | Guild2Guild:DCF("The set or change the hidden channel used by this addon:") |
| 09:45.59 | krka | you call it like that |
| 09:46.02 | krka | which means: |
| 09:46.10 | krka | Guild2Guild.DCF(Guild2Guild, "The set or change the hidden channel used by this addon:") |
| 09:46.23 | krka | so sMsg is Guild2Guild |
| 09:46.39 | Elviso | ahhh |
| 09:47.12 | Elviso | I am still confused on : and . and self and all that, is there a primer anywhere? |
| 09:47.44 | Elviso | I know it'll click if I hammer away at reloadui long enough, but if there was a howto it'd be alot of help |
| 09:48.12 | krka | it's really quite simple |
| 09:48.28 | krka | A:B(x, y, z) is EXACTLY the same thing as A.b(A, x, y, z) |
| 09:48.37 | Elviso | I mean, could I call it like self:DCF("blah") |
| 09:48.57 | krka | if you have a variable called self, yes |
| 09:49.21 | krka | that's for calling btw |
| 09:49.28 | krka | her'es the rule for defining |
| 09:49.31 | Elviso | i see lots of addons using method = function(self) lalalala end |
| 09:49.44 | krka | function A:B(x, y, z) is exactly the same thing as |
| 09:49.48 | krka | function A.b(self, x, y, z) |
| 09:50.07 | krka | with capital B... |
| 09:50.17 | Elviso | hrm? |
| 09:50.21 | Elviso | capital... |
| 09:50.46 | krka | typo by me |
| 09:50.48 | krka | i meant: |
| 09:50.51 | krka | function A.B(self, x, y, z) |
| 09:50.53 | Elviso | Oh k |
| 09:51.05 | krka | so, nothing really magic about : |
| 09:51.12 | krka | just those two rules |
| 09:51.36 | Elviso | do you have to use function A.B(self, x, y, z) if you want to reference self? |
| 09:52.10 | krka | not sure i understand the question so i won't answer :) |
| 09:52.24 | Elviso | ok.. |
| 09:53.08 | Elviso | say I have mytable.mymethod = function (self,x,y,z) |
| 09:53.21 | Elviso | I can then use self:DCF("blah"), right? |
| 09:53.33 | Elviso | instead of mytable:DCF() |
| 09:53.43 | krka | if self is defined somewhere |
| 09:54.17 | krka | i think you mean mytable:DCF() in this case |
| 09:59.59 | Elviso | ok, you've definitely helped me alot |
| 10:00.00 | Elviso | thanks :) |
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| 11:06.16 | Shouryuu_ | how could I do something like fuu(a) a .. b ={} end, I want my table to be called ab? Do i need to use metatables? |
| 11:09.00 | Miravlix | You want to make a .. b make a table named ab? |
| 11:09.31 | Shouryuu_ | yeah I want a table called ab |
| 11:09.48 | Miravlix | or you want var1 = a and var2 = b , var1 .. var2 = {} |
| 11:09.59 | Shouryuu_ | first option |
| 11:10.24 | Shouryuu_ | doing a .. b isn't working for me |
| 11:10.38 | Miravlix | Your breaking how the language works and creating an unexpected side effect. |
| 11:10.58 | Shouryuu_ | that sucks |
| 11:11.08 | Miravlix | When doing var1 .. var2 you expect the contense of those two to be concatinated |
| 11:11.54 | Shouryuu_ | yeah that's what I was hoping it woudl do |
| 11:12.08 | Miravlix | Now your confugin me. :p |
| 11:12.24 | Shouryuu_ | for example |
| 11:12.52 | Miravlix | var1 = "a" var2="b" var1 .. var2 = {}? |
| 11:13.03 | Shouryuu_ | fuu(hello) would create a table called hellob |
| 11:13.24 | Miravlix | hello is a variable |
| 11:13.33 | Miravlix | has to be fuu("hello") |
| 11:13.46 | Shouryuu_ | ahhh |
| 11:14.17 | Miravlix | then getglobal("var1" .. "var2") = {} perhaps |
| 11:14.34 | Miravlix | then getglobal(var1 .. var2) = {} perhaps |
| 11:14.51 | Shouryuu_ | Yeah I'll try both |
| 11:14.59 | Miravlix | Never used getglobal with a variable that isn't initialized |
| 11:15.19 | Shouryuu_ | never used getglobal before :p |
| 11:18.18 | Shouryuu_ | getglobal is lua, or WoW? |
| 11:18.59 | Kirov | lua |
| 11:19.06 | _B | rushur |
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| 11:38.17 | Miravlix | http://forums-en.wow-europe.com/thread.aspx?ForumName=wow-general-en&ThreadID=954113 |
| 11:39.01 | Kirov | lol |
| 11:39.03 | Kirov | nice |
| 11:40.28 | Miravlix | He used the word hack and people panic |
| 11:44.49 | Elviso | I like your retort Miravlix :) |
| 11:45.03 | Elviso | I'd respond too if I had a EU acct |
| 11:46.44 | Miravlix | Yeah, but the reply contains long and multiple words, no one will read it. :p |
| 11:50.43 | Elviso | Sadly, you're most likely right. I mean, it's on the WoW forums....where the average age and maturity level is around 9. |
| 11:54.25 | Kirov | Now now, that's not nice |
| 11:54.31 | Kirov | I know a lot of mature 9 year olds |
| 11:55.01 | zenzelezz | they'd know better than to post on the forums ;o |
| 11:55.15 | zenzelezz | at least the General forum |
| 11:55.19 | Elviso | STFU N00B |
| 11:55.30 | Elviso | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.55 | Shouryuu_ | haha nice mira |
| 12:00.39 | wereHamster | Shouryuu_, get/setglobal() are WoW functions, and getglobal("foo") = {} doesn't make sense |
| 12:01.15 | wereHamster | getglobal _returns_ the variable, use setglobal("foo", {}) to set it |
| 12:01.25 | Shouryuu_ | Miravlix proposed getglobal(var1 .. var2,{}), would that work? |
| 12:01.40 | AnduinLothar | yes |
| 12:01.53 | Shouryuu_ | and how would i do something like var1 .. var2[1]=10 ? |
| 12:01.56 | Shouryuu_ | setglobal? |
| 12:02.19 | wereHamster | AnduinLothar, are you sure? what is the meaning of the second argument in getglobal() ? |
| 12:02.37 | AnduinLothar | oh, my bad, thought that was setglobal |
| 12:03.33 | wereHamster | var1="a";var2="b";var1..var2 = something is the same as "ab" = something .. and that doeasn't make sense |
| 12:03.34 | AnduinLothar | getglobal(var1 .. var2)[1]=10 i think |
| 12:03.51 | Shouryuu_ | K thanks |
| 12:05.14 | wereHamster | better use: local foo = getglobal(var1..var2); foo[1]=10 if you know that you'll use foo more than once |
| 12:05.22 | id` | happy easter |
| 12:05.29 | Shouryuu_ | aye |
| 12:05.39 | id` | and uh, morning.. (although its 14:10 here) |
| 12:05.56 | Shouryuu_ | 8pm here :P |
| 12:06.00 | wereHamster | and even better is to create a local table and use that rather than get/setglobal() |
| 12:06.11 | wereHamster | I mean local to the addon, not the function |
| 12:06.47 | Shouryuu_ | well, I'm trying to make a chess addon, and basicly i want to make WhitePawn={} |
| 12:06.59 | wereHamster | eg. on top of the lua file: local MyAddOnData = {} and use MyAddOnData[var1..var2][1]=10 |
| 12:07.21 | Shouryuu_ | I guess that would be smarter |
| 12:08.01 | Kirov | Or White.Pawn |
| 12:08.53 | Kirov | later ppl |
| 12:09.29 | wereHamster | isn't it 'Pwn' ? :-P |
| 12:42.07 | AnduinLothar | :D I got MiniGames working |
| 12:51.26 | krka | getglobal is wow |
| 13:01.29 | Shouryuu_ | what's the best way to define rules? A long list of ifs? |
| 13:02.53 | Shouryuu_ | shopuld I define what can be done or what shouldn't be done? |
| 13:03.09 | krka | let each piece have a method for checking if a certain move is legal |
| 13:03.39 | Shouryuu_ | olk |
| 13:03.43 | krka | pawnObject:IsLegalMove(boardObject, x, y) |
| 13:03.51 | krka | or something like that |
| 13:04.12 | Shouryuu_ | yeah I was more like planing to do IsLegalMove(PieceType,x,y) |
| 13:05.20 | Shouryuu_ | well nnight folks |
| 13:05.27 | *** part/#wowi-lounge Shouryuu_ (n=Shouryuu@cm70.gamma137.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 13:27.36 | AnduinLothar | http://www.cosmosui.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=49122 |
| 13:27.43 | AnduinLothar | Availible for download in 30 min |
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| 14:20.12 | wereHamster | is here a WoWI admin? |
| 14:20.20 | wereHamster | I can't post comments to my files |
| 14:20.33 | wereHamster | "You do not have permission to access this file or page. This could be due to one of several reasons:" |
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| 14:37.50 | wereHamster | hi cide |
| 14:43.45 | Cide | hi |
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| 15:04.26 | krka | when is the wow expansion expected to come? |
| 15:10.29 | Tem | no f'ing way |
| 15:10.34 | Tem | you have to be kidding m |
| 15:10.35 | Tem | e |
| 15:11.01 | wereHamster | ? |
| 15:11.05 | Tem | I reroll horde on a pvp server because I wanted to be on the other side of the population imballance |
| 15:11.21 | JoshBorke | ( wereHamster ): i'm having some trouble with coolDown |
| 15:11.28 | Tem | I just took a look at census data for the server I picked... |
| 15:11.32 | Tem | 60% horde |
| 15:11.40 | JoshBorke | ( Tem ): lol |
| 15:12.02 | wereHamster | Josh, what problems? |
| 15:12.14 | JoshBorke | the spellBook.xml file fails CRC check |
| 15:12.38 | JoshBorke | and so now i fubared it somehow and i get a constant error like: Font is not initialized |
| 15:13.16 | JoshBorke | i tried 0.0.10.1 and 0.0.10.0 from both CG and WoWI |
| 15:19.51 | wereHamster | what do you use to unzip the archive? |
| 15:19.55 | wereHamster | winrar? |
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| 15:20.47 | JoshBorke | ultimatezip |
| 15:26.34 | wereHamster | the font has nothing to do with the spellbook.. |
| 15:27.38 | wereHamster | try another tool to extract the zip |
| 15:28.04 | wereHamster | the windows' builtin unzip should work |
| 15:37.12 | JoshBorke | ko, thanks |
| 15:41.46 | JoshBorke | i've used it for only 3 days and already i'm in love with it :D |
| 15:44.13 | wereHamster | nice to hear :) |
| 16:11.05 | Ktron|afk | coolDown freaks out if you're a mage and you get silenced, or at least it used to |
| 16:11.17 | wereHamster | it still does.. :( |
| 16:11.26 | wereHamster | but it doesn't throw an error anymore |
| 16:11.45 | Ktron|afk | well, the error was the biggest issue anyway |
| 16:11.51 | wereHamster | and now you can increase the min duration to prevent this |
| 16:12.14 | ImmoAzrael | hey josh, give me a URL to try the zip file you downloaded |
| 16:12.16 | wereHamster | like set it to 5 seconds when silence lasts 4.. |
| 16:12.27 | Ktron|afk | what's the /slash command? |
| 16:12.53 | Ktron|afk | or is it a 'edit the lua' thing |
| 16:13.41 | wereHamster | there are no slash commands in the newer versions... |
| 16:18.48 | Ktron|afk | I didn't think so |
| 16:36.04 | krka | ah screw this, i will just skip weird strings and long comments, let someone else implement it if they need it |
| 16:43.55 | krka | anyone want to create a very simple addon with a multiline editbox and a button |
| 16:44.09 | krka | clicking the button will syntax highlight / indent the code in the editbox |
| 16:44.17 | krka | i'd do it myself, but i dont have a wow account atm |
| 16:46.36 | *** topic/#wowi-lounge by Cairenn -> Mod Dev Discussions |
| 16:47.32 | wereHamster | what happened with the 'keep smiling' topic ? |
| 16:48.22 | Cairenn | I ate it |
| 16:49.02 | wereHamster | oh noes |
| 16:52.43 | Cairenn | yup |
| 16:52.48 | Cairenn | my evil knows no bounds |
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| 16:57.00 | krka | this is actually kinda working |
| 16:57.07 | krka | i r0x0rz in my b0x0rz |
| 16:58.36 | Osagasu | awha? |
| 17:00.16 | krka | exactly! |
| 17:03.14 | Ktron|wow | that sounded like a middle name |
| 17:03.25 | Ktron|wow | Cai "My Evil Knows No Bounds" renn |
| 17:04.02 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:04.48 | ImmoAzrael | what event is spells against a target >? |
| 17:12.35 | ckknight | hey all |
| 17:13.00 | Cairenn | hey ckknight |
| 17:13.50 | wereHamster | morning ckknight |
| 17:13.59 | ckknight | yep |
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| 17:22.21 | krka | interesting... if i find a " in a string, i need to check if there's an even amount of \ right before it |
| 17:31.18 | krka | cool, under 250 lines so far :) |
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| 17:32.55 | JoshBorke | anyone know what the player dots on the minimap are called? |
| 17:33.38 | krka | i call mine dot, spot and blob |
| 17:33.58 | JoshBorke | :-P they aren't affected by the Minimap alpha, so i want to change their alpha :-) |
| 17:35.34 | krka | don't think we can access them actually |
| 17:35.55 | krka | that would imply that we could gather tracking data |
| 17:36.10 | JoshBorke | but they aren't parented to minimap :-( |
| 17:36.33 | Ktron|wow | anyone know anything about resizing font objects? |
| 17:36.36 | Ktron|wow | or finding them? |
| 17:42.56 | krka | ok, anyone up for my challenges? |
| 17:42.58 | krka | -s |
| 17:43.09 | krka | write a multiline editbox with a button and plug in my code :P |
| 17:43.22 | krka | paste some lua code into the editbox and hit the button, see if it updates |
| 17:43.23 | Wobin_ | Can't you do that -outside- of WoW? |
| 17:43.33 | Wobin_ | luaslinger |
| 17:43.35 | Wobin_ | luapad |
| 17:43.41 | krka | huh? |
| 17:43.42 | Wobin_ | all that does |
| 17:43.48 | Wobin_ | it |
| 17:44.05 | krka | i have written a syntax highlighter / indenter for ingame lua editing |
| 17:44.10 | krka | but i can't test it |
| 17:44.21 | [MoonWolf] | Why not ? |
| 17:44.23 | Ktron|wow | krka, would it work with something like luaslinger? |
| 17:45.05 | krka | i guess |
| 17:45.15 | krka | because i have not paid my account :P |
| 17:45.23 | krka | actually, it's my brothers account and he hasn't paid |
| 17:45.28 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 17:45.32 | Wobin_ | nag him |
| 17:45.43 | krka | imagine that... a wow lua coder without a wow account :( |
| 17:46.03 | krka | anyone up for it? |
| 17:46.10 | krka | would be really cool if it actually worked |
| 17:46.25 | krka | works in my lua terminal atleast |
| 17:47.24 | Ktron|wow | sure, I'll try it I guess perhaps |
| 17:47.35 | Ktron|wow | I'm basically just executing lua code, right? |
| 17:47.50 | krka | hm? |
| 17:48.02 | Ktron|wow | I'll see if I can test it for you, let's go dialog |
| 17:48.35 | krka | ok! |
| 17:48.46 | krka | just need to register.. |
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| 17:48.54 | ComicSansMS | greetings everyone! |
| 17:50.15 | krka | have to find my password :/ |
| 17:50.28 | Ktron | the channel is pretty dead too, so whatever:) |
| 17:51.07 | krka | yah |
| 17:51.12 | krka | basically, i have a lua file that contains some functions |
| 17:51.27 | krka | most importantly indentCode(codeString [, tabSize]) |
| 17:51.38 | krka | you just need to have this somewhere: |
| 17:52.02 | krka | local text = someEditbox:GetText(); text = indentCode(text); someEditbox:SetText(text) |
| 17:52.15 | krka | and ofcourse put the lua file in the toc |
| 17:52.59 | Ktron | alright |
| 17:53.16 | Ktron | I've copied LuaSlinger, let's see if I can find a good place in LuaSlinger.lua for that |
| 17:53.39 | krka | http://kristofer.no-ip.info:8080/indent.lua |
| 17:53.48 | krka | there's the file |
| 17:54.04 | krka | you could use OnTabPressed for that :) |
| 17:55.25 | Ktron | do you want to see the luaslinger lua file? |
| 17:55.35 | krka | sure |
| 17:56.06 | krka | hmm... this may be useful to have as an embedded library perhaps |
| 17:56.07 | Ktron | http://wow.pastebin.com/663422 |
| 17:58.36 | krka | i'll add a tab-handler there |
| 17:58.43 | Ktron | there's also a dumpLuaSlinger.lua, LuaSlinger.xml and LuaSlingerImport.lua |
| 17:59.37 | krka | http://wow.pastebin.com/663425 |
| 17:59.43 | krka | that _should_ do the trick |
| 18:00.32 | ImmoAzrael | man, you know those little health bars above mobs when you hit V , its to bad ou couldnt make them stationary or relocate tehm else where |
| 18:01.08 | Ktron | restarting WoW |
| 18:01.49 | Ktron | ImmoAzrael, there's addons that make health bars for target mobs appear along the side of the screen |
| 18:01.54 | krka | is this correct color code stuff btw?: |c005500AAif|r min |c005500AAthen|r |
| 18:02.01 | ImmoAzrael | WHAaaa !~!! |
| 18:02.05 | ImmoAzrael | whats it called :D |
| 18:03.40 | Ktron | krka, hitting tab doesn't do anything, but I do know before I restarted wow it through an error with not recognizing the function indent |
| 18:03.49 | krka | hmm |
| 18:04.02 | krka | indentCode you mean+ |
| 18:04.04 | Ktron | oh wait:) |
| 18:04.06 | Ktron | there we go:) |
| 18:04.07 | Ktron | yeah |
| 18:04.07 | Ktron | I do |
| 18:04.21 | krka | "there we go" = it works? |
| 18:05.32 | krka | the suspense is killing me here! |
| 18:06.06 | Ktron | http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indentftw7zb.jpg |
| 18:06.09 | ImmoAzrael | i want to make an addon that when you crit someone and it causes them to die, it does /yell BOOM Headshot ! |
| 18:06.19 | Ktron | that was after I hit tab, there was no color beforehand :) |
| 18:06.22 | krka | SWEET |
| 18:06.27 | krka | just need to adjust the colours |
| 18:06.45 | krka | try adding a comment too |
| 18:06.50 | krka | ah, already was one |
| 18:06.51 | krka | never mind |
| 18:07.09 | krka | much lighter blue perhaps |
| 18:07.16 | krka | you can fix that yourself probably |
| 18:07.23 | krka | almost at the top of indent.lua |
| 18:07.28 | krka | local keywordColor = "|c005500AA" |
| 18:07.41 | krka | you probably won't be able to execute that code btw |
| 18:07.49 | krka | but that can be fixed |
| 18:07.59 | krka | just need to run stripColors() on the text before executing |
| 18:08.57 | Ktron | I'll see |
| 18:09.14 | krka | man this is so cool |
| 18:09.21 | krka | worked directly, without me testing it |
| 18:10.31 | Ktron | yeah, stripColors is quite necessary |
| 18:10.52 | Ktron | pretty nice krka |
| 18:10.55 | krka | not sure where that should be placed |
| 18:11.06 | krka | right before all execute calls probably |
| 18:11.09 | krka | thanks |
| 18:11.17 | krka | with a lighter blue it should do fine |
| 18:11.36 | krka | doesn't handle [["string"]] and long comments though |
| 18:12.49 | Ktron | wouldn't http://wow.pastebin.com/663459 be roughly where? Like, perhaps even RunScript(stripColors(scriptObj.text));? |
| 18:13.42 | krka | yeah |
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| 18:15.14 | krka | man... getting the indentation right was a real pain |
| 18:15.25 | krka | i did a hackish-solution that seems to work :) |
| 18:16.06 | Ktron | what color did you change? |
| 18:16.35 | krka | the keywordColor |
| 18:16.38 | Ktron | to? |
| 18:17.14 | Ktron | heh, I want to run krka-enhanced LuaSlinger:) |
| 18:17.18 | krka | local keywordColor = "|c009955FF" |
| 18:17.47 | krka | not sure if it's any good |
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| 18:17.50 | Wobin_ | krka: Tabs or spaces? =) |
| 18:17.52 | Ktron | yeah, that's brighter |
| 18:17.52 | krka | should be brighter atleast |
| 18:17.57 | krka | Wobin_, spaces |
| 18:18.04 | Ktron | want to see another SS? |
| 18:18.06 | krka | can't do tabs in editbox |
| 18:18.07 | krka | sure! |
| 18:18.10 | Wobin_ | True |
| 18:20.07 | Ktron | http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indentftw25tm.jpg there you go krka |
| 18:21.11 | Ktron | Anything else you'd like me to test with LuaSlinger? |
| 18:21.48 | JoshBorke | that is wicked awesome |
| 18:27.51 | krka | nah, that's fine for now. thanks for your help! |
| 18:28.37 | krka | this makes no sense, why have no one else done syntax highlighting before? |
| 18:29.18 | Ktron | people probably were just scared |
| 18:29.27 | Ktron | "omg it used colors gg no wai" |
| 18:29.29 | Cide | can you color code numbers? |
| 18:29.40 | krka | probably, yeah |
| 18:29.45 | Cide | that'd be sweet |
| 18:29.50 | Ktron | for what? |
| 18:29.57 | Cide | easier to identify, I guess |
| 18:30.07 | Cide | are you going to make the colors customizable? |
| 18:30.17 | krka | i could do that |
| 18:30.22 | krka | add as parameters to the function |
| 18:30.27 | Cide | I guess I could just open the lua file and edit them myself otherwise |
| 18:30.45 | krka | yeah, but better to have them customizable in game |
| 18:30.50 | _B | Since those current colours are shit |
| 18:30.54 | krka | this was mostly a test anyway, to see if it worked |
| 18:30.59 | krka | :( |
| 18:31.37 | krka | could probably even let different keywords have different colors |
| 18:31.39 | Cide | color coding non-string-encapsulated parenthesises would be nice, too :) |
| 18:32.01 | krka | what? |
| 18:32.09 | Ktron | yeah, parenthesises and brackets might be nice, as might semicolors |
| 18:32.11 | _B | lol yes what |
| 18:32.13 | Ktron | *semicolons |
| 18:32.17 | Cide | making parenthesises that are not part of strings color coded |
| 18:32.23 | krka | ah |
| 18:32.29 | krka | that's easy to do |
| 18:32.30 | _B | Does the highlighting still work if the quotes are escaped |
| 18:32.33 | krka | just add them as keywords |
| 18:32.33 | Cide | brackets & semi colons would be nice |
| 18:32.43 | Ktron | krka, you have openned a can of worms:) |
| 18:32.44 | krka | i should add a color property per keyword |
| 18:32.46 | krka | i know |
| 18:33.06 | JoshBorke | lol |
| 18:33.14 | Ktron | at least \" is ignored correctly |
| 18:33.27 | krka | _B you mean for strings like this? "testing\\\" lalala" |
| 18:33.31 | krka | if so, then yes |
| 18:33.50 | Ktron | krka, and yeah, I just tested that, it works fine |
| 18:33.54 | _B | Good job |
| 18:34.12 | krka | i actually limited the functionality to the very basics |
| 18:34.19 | krka | otherwise it'd never get finished |
| 18:34.25 | krka | no long comments or weird strings |
| 18:35.20 | krka | i am guessing brackets and parens should also affect indentation? |
| 18:36.13 | krka | want coloring for all the operators too? |
| 18:36.54 | Ktron | probably parens should affect indentation, but its your library:)... I could see people wanting operators colored |
| 18:37.18 | Ktron | and it'd be cool if you could color a word before a set of parenthesis-- I think that will always be a function name |
| 18:37.34 | Ktron | ie thispart(and who knows, maybe this part) |
| 18:37.43 | krka | that's kinda tricky so i'll just ignore it |
| 18:37.45 | krka | for now |
| 18:37.53 | Ktron | alright:) |
| 18:38.40 | JoshBorke | ( Tain ): are you here? |
| 18:38.58 | krka | i'll make it an embedded library |
| 18:41.10 | Iriel|sleep | Once you get beyond flagging things that are lexically identifiable (i.e. keywords, operators, strings) it starts to get fiddly |
| 18:41.40 | krka | yeah |
| 18:42.07 | Ktron | yeah, that's true, but what else are parenthesis used for outside of strings besides functions? |
| 18:42.09 | krka | not sure how far i'll take it |
| 18:42.24 | krka | x = 3.14*(1 + 2) |
| 18:43.07 | krka | i fully expect someone to write a much better library than me though |
| 18:43.17 | Ktron | true, but it'd be easy enough to exclude math operators |
| 18:43.27 | krka | fine, _you_ do that :P |
| 18:43.36 | krka | i don't have a full parser implemented |
| 18:43.38 | Ktron | I was just looking to see if I could |
| 18:43.49 | krka | actually, this is just a big hack atm |
| 18:44.04 | krka | next step is to write a fullblown lua parser in lua |
| 18:44.16 | krka | then we could do all sorts of nice coloring |
| 18:44.29 | krka | and even have settings for indentation style |
| 18:45.21 | Ktron | so indent.lua just looks for keywords and inserts color codes around them |
| 18:46.02 | krka | yup |
| 18:46.13 | krka | also uses keywords to figure out indentation |
| 18:46.29 | krka | in a very hackish way, that i don't expect to understand myself next week |
| 18:47.38 | Ktron | does it later strip out tags inside of strings, or... how does that bit work? |
| 18:48.24 | krka | it first divides the code into strings, comments and code |
| 18:48.36 | krka | look at a line, look for the first " |
| 18:48.42 | krka | anything before that is code |
| 18:48.48 | Ktron | ah, gotcha |
| 18:49.05 | Ktron | that's not a bad approach |
| 18:49.54 | Ktron | ah, so multiline strings are out too |
| 18:51.04 | krka | yup |
| 18:51.09 | krka | not sure how hard that is to fix |
| 18:54.25 | _B | So where's the source code for this thingimijiggy? ;p |
| 18:54.50 | krka | i am working on it as we speak |
| 18:55.05 | _B | But how does it work at the core |
| 18:55.10 | _B | LUA regular expressions? |
| 18:55.51 | krka | well, it uses LUA regular expressions for some stuff |
| 18:56.18 | Cide | hmm |
| 18:56.33 | Cide | is there a way to figure out which texture I'm mousing over? |
| 18:56.34 | _B | If LUA regex wasn't so shit, you could write syntax highlighting code with regex alone |
| 18:57.00 | Cide | I can't figure out which texture is showing up even though it shouldn't |
| 18:57.07 | _B | What is really the point of this though? Wouldn't it make more sense to write an external app for it |
| 18:57.26 | krka | ingame lua editing |
| 18:57.32 | _B | But why |
| 18:57.38 | Ktron | Some people run lua scripts in game too, like me |
| 18:57.40 | _B | You can't save files from in-game |
| 18:57.44 | krka | originally it was for my addon |
| 18:57.52 | krka | but now i realize it can be used for many other things |
| 18:58.15 | krka | you can save to SavedVariables |
| 18:58.17 | krka | that's good enough |
| 18:58.39 | krka | the syntax highlighting can probably almost be done with regexps alone |
| 18:58.46 | krka | if you accept ugly strings |
| 18:58.55 | krka | it's the indentation that's tricky |
| 18:59.23 | Ktron | krka, I'll look into and think about how I might approach a more robust version of what you've done, but for now, I think I've got to have lunchfast |
| 18:59.28 | Ktron | and yes, lunchfast |
| 18:59.34 | Ktron | or brunch I suppose |
| 19:00.37 | krka | should i be proud that i got iriel to sleep-type a complete sentence? :) |
| 19:02.18 | krka | meh... i'll just skip operators |
| 19:02.26 | krka | i can't differentiate ... and .. atm |
| 19:03.49 | _B | Because LUA regex is weak |
| 19:03.54 | _B | It doesn't have assertions |
| 19:04.22 | krka | how do you know that's why? :) |
| 19:04.28 | krka | i haven't explained how it works |
| 19:04.35 | _B | Well that would stop me ;p |
| 19:09.00 | Cide | couldn't you do like.. |
| 19:09.38 | Cide | [^.]%.%.[^.] |
| 19:11.32 | krka | probably could |
| 19:11.43 | krka | trying to keep the code lightweight |
| 19:11.46 | krka | and not special case every keyword |
| 19:12.09 | krka | i'll release the code soon, so people can dissect it and fix it :) |
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| 19:25.00 | AnduinLothar | moo |
| 19:30.28 | JoshBorke | oink |
| 19:31.36 | Cairenn | purr |
| 19:32.11 | krka | ok... here goes nothing |
| 19:34.04 | krka | Go wild, find all the bugs: http://kristofer.no-ip.info:8080/indent.lua |
| 19:35.46 | krka | what i really want is for someone to write a complete lua parser that builds a nice little source tree :) |
| 19:35.54 | krka | err.. syntax tree i mean |
| 19:36.31 | AnduinLothar | heh, I'm writing a parser in compilers class, but the syntax is a lot simpler |
| 19:36.38 | wereHamster | isn't there already an existing lua parser written in lua? |
| 19:37.01 | krka | i wrote a parser for Java... but that was using existing parser generators |
| 19:37.15 | krka | no idea wereHamster |
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| 19:43.06 | Iriel|sleep | _B: Just FYI, you can't write complete syntax highlighting with just regexp alone, no matter how good your RE library is |
| 19:43.46 | Iriel|housework | You essentially have to do what krka described (1) tokenize the input stream into strings, keywords, operators, symbols, then (b) implement some kind of parser |
| 19:44.04 | Iriel|housework | On the bright side, lua's fairly easy to parse |
| 19:44.47 | Iriel|housework | The only tricky part is that the grammar's got a couple of quirks that mean you can't reliably use standard parser-generating tools like yacc |
| 19:47.04 | Maldivia | Iriel, you know if Tem (or someone else) has reported the crash bug with SetHistoryLines ? |
| 19:48.15 | Iriel|housework | Maldivia : I dont recall one, so I'm guessing 'no' |
| 19:48.39 | Iriel|housework | Does it crash when you shrink the buffer smaller than the number of lines? |
| 19:48.47 | krka | btw, i am very new at writing embedded libs, can someone take a look at the code i posted and see if it's good enough? |
| 19:49.29 | Maldivia | Iriel: well, this is a memory exception, when setting the number too high |
| 19:49.33 | Maldivia | might be other issuels aswell |
| 19:50.00 | Iriel|housework | Maldivia : Can you post on the US forum (I dont recall) or should I? |
| 19:50.09 | Maldivia | in the middle of posting |
| 19:50.12 | Iriel|housework | Cool |
| 19:50.52 | Ktron|afk | Anyone know what frame the Text object for 'status bar text' is on, and if I can rescale the text... |
| 19:51.06 | AnduinLothar | you can |
| 19:51.22 | AnduinLothar | each individually |
| 19:52.18 | AnduinLothar | check out archeaologist and find SetScale, it does it on the bar parents |
| 19:52.52 | Maldivia | Iriel: actually, there were two crash-bugs... large numbers and negative numbers :) |
| 19:53.47 | wereHamster | I also found a bug... but I won't bother reporting it.. too minor to be fixed |
| 19:56.23 | Maldivia | well, this is minor aswell, it's just a missing sanity check on the integer passed |
| 19:57.17 | Maldivia | although the SetHistoryLines might be associated with a memory leak, but have to test a bit further to confirm that |
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| 19:57.18 | Iriel|housework | wereHamster : What's your bug? |
| 19:57.30 | Iriel|housework | I suspect that it's just an unchecked malloc or something |
| 19:57.54 | Iriel|housework | Which is why -ve breaks, since it becomes a large number when turned into an unsigned size_t |
| 19:57.59 | Wobin_ | hum |
| 19:58.33 | Wobin_ | if a function is defined by function Womble( print ) if(print) then Frog() end end |
| 19:58.39 | Wobin_ | is 'print' a local? |
| 19:58.46 | krka | yes |
| 19:59.02 | Ktron|afk | AnduinLothar, 2.71 or should I just pull it out of the cosmos alpha? |
| 19:59.13 | AnduinLothar | either way |
| 19:59.14 | Maldivia | Iriel: yeah, that's the problem for large numbers, "Invalid Memory Block" |
| 19:59.41 | Maldivia | Iriel: but the number needed to crash the client is lower, if I've run it a few times, or so it seemed |
| 19:59.51 | Ktron|afk | AnduinLothar, have any dependence on Earth? |
| 19:59.59 | AnduinLothar | it's not a gui option, just talkign about a pice of code that happens to rescale them to make the text non fuzzy |
| 20:00.14 | AnduinLothar | the curse one is standalone |
| 20:00.22 | krka | anyone else have a habit of getting completely sidetracked when writing an addon? |
| 20:00.30 | AnduinLothar | yesw |
| 20:01.07 | krka | "now i need a thingy like this... " and spend a huge amount of time on that, so it takes on a life of its own and you forget the original purpose |
| 20:03.28 | Iriel|housework | krka: All the time |
| 20:03.34 | Iriel|housework | krka: On almost every project I work on, ever |
| 20:04.01 | krka | glad to hear it's not just me |
| 20:04.38 | AnduinLothar | anyone know the cvar for music off the top of their head? |
| 20:05.10 | AnduinLothar | :) |
| 20:05.10 | Iriel|housework | SET MusicVolume "0.40000000596046" |
| 20:05.12 | Iriel|housework | ? |
| 20:05.13 | Iriel|housework | That one? |
| 20:05.14 | AnduinLothar | EnableMusic |
| 20:05.27 | AnduinLothar | already got the volume setting working |
| 20:05.32 | Iriel|housework | Ah yes, it's EnableMusic |
| 20:05.42 | AnduinLothar | but foudn that the music would randomly start playing liek bg music even when stopped |
| 20:06.03 | AnduinLothar | so i'll have to dissable music when I stop it |
| 20:08.38 | Maldivia | Iriel: hmm, seems to be a leak of some kind there "for j = 100, 200 do ChatFrameEditBox:SetHistoryLines(j) end" doesn't crash, but "for i = 1, 100 do for j = 100, 200 do ChatFrameEditBox:SetHistoryLines(j) end end" does |
| 20:09.13 | Iriel|housework | Maldivia : Does the first loop followed by ChatFrameEditBox:SetHistoryLines(100) crash? |
| 20:09.42 | Maldivia | no |
| 20:09.54 | Maldivia | you can lower it without a problem |
| 20:10.25 | Maldivia | ofcourse could be a memory management problem |
| 20:10.34 | Iriel|housework | maybe a missing 'free' ? |
| 20:10.42 | Maldivia | yeah, or something |
| 20:10.52 | Iriel|housework | Or it may just be that the client's memory management isn't set up for huge volumes of memory cycling |
| 20:11.05 | Iriel|housework | That might be a deliberate choice given that it's a game client |
| 20:12.01 | Maldivia | true, and it's not like the above would be anything that would be, except when trying to crash the client :) |
| 20:12.13 | Maldivia | +run |
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| 20:23.21 | Cide | hey Iriel|housework, can you enlighten me on what's new in the latest devtools? |
| 20:23.49 | zeeg | http://map.wowguru.com/ |
| 20:24.02 | Iriel|housework | Cide: Well, the newest features are /dtchatevent, and /dtframestack |
| 20:24.10 | Iriel|housework | I think you know about dtchatevent already |
| 20:24.16 | Cide | yeah. |
| 20:24.26 | Cide | framestack's the thing you showed a screenshot of? |
| 20:24.35 | Iriel|housework | dtframestack lets you see all of the (visible) frames under the mouse pointer |
| 20:24.42 | Iriel|housework | Yes, I believe that's the one. |
| 20:24.51 | Iriel|housework | the little popup with a strata and frame name list? |
| 20:25.12 | Cide | yep |
| 20:25.27 | Iriel|housework | That's pretty much all the new stuff so far |
| 20:25.30 | Cide | that seemed nice, so I'll have to update it again :) thanks |
| 20:25.33 | Iriel|housework | I'm working on /vdump |
| 20:25.36 | Iriel|housework | but that'll be a while |
| 20:25.57 | Cide | aye, I'm waiting on that one :) |
| 20:26.12 | Cide | visual dump, I take it? |
| 20:26.24 | Iriel|housework | Yeah, a semi-interactive /dump |
| 20:27.34 | Cide | that will be awesome |
| 20:27.58 | Iriel|housework | I'm using _G as my test table, so the hope is it'll be suitable for HUGE tables |
| 20:28.34 | Cide | it'll be troublesome finding a bigger table than that :) |
| 20:28.42 | Iriel|housework | http://www.vigilance-committee.org/wow/downloads/random/vdump1.png |
| 20:28.45 | Iriel|housework | That's where i'm at so far |
| 20:29.07 | Iriel|housework | But that's an early screenshot (without multiple frames open for nested tables, or scrollbars, etc) |
| 20:29.26 | Wobin_ | Iriel|housework: Clickable tables to explore deeper? |
| 20:29.28 | Cide | that's what I was going to ask. how are you doing nested tables? |
| 20:29.50 | Iriel|housework | Well, here's what im thinking, you can all tell me if you hate the idea |
| 20:30.05 | Wobin_ | hehe |
| 20:30.17 | Iriel | ack, phone, one sec |
| 20:32.43 | Iriel | Okay so, the idea is a 2-fold one, if you mouseover and hover (for 1/4 of a second or so) over an entry, it'll do a cursor-anchored popup with the next level of detail |
| 20:32.53 | Iriel | Whether that's a subtable, or a long string |
| 20:33.21 | Iriel | If it's a subtable, then clicking it will shift the current window to the left (and make it a bit smaller) and will pop up the subtable window over the top of it |
| 20:33.39 | Iriel | and then you can click back and forth across the 'stack' to view different tables |
| 20:34.00 | Wobin_ | How deep will you go? |
| 20:34.02 | Iriel | I expect i'll need to add something like Shift-click to open the subtable as an independent stack too |
| 20:34.06 | Iriel | As deep as you click |
| 20:34.17 | Wobin_ | So you can end up with a chain of windows across the screen? |
| 20:34.33 | Iriel | though i expect i'll put in a (disableable) limit to the number of visible ones |
| 20:34.41 | Wobin_ | What about metatables? |
| 20:34.44 | Iriel | It'll be smart about recursive tables also |
| 20:35.23 | Iriel | I have some ideas about showing metatables (and some other things, like getn) as virtual entries in the table |
| 20:35.37 | Wobin_ | It'd be cool if I can check my class structure works properly irt the proper functions being referenced |
| 20:35.39 | Iriel | I need to play with that to see if I like it tho |
| 20:36.24 | Wobin_ | shift-click could replace the current window with the clicked table.... |
| 20:36.53 | Wobin_ | but that's in the thought of the least number of windows possible.... which you may not really be worried about |
| 20:37.06 | Wobin_ | since it's a debug thingie |
| 20:51.57 | wereHamster | Iriel, let WoW load a lua file which contains "\342\200\260" and it will crash on startup, but now when you do /script foo= "\342\200\260" .. that gives the error "sequence too long" (or similar) |
| 20:52.19 | wereHamster | s/now/not |
| 20:52.39 | wereHamster | and yes, the missing '/' was intentional |
| 20:52.44 | Iriel | wereHamster : Do you mean literally those characters, or are those binary characters? |
| 20:52.57 | wereHamster | local str = "\342\200\260" |
| 20:53.02 | wereHamster | just like this |
| 20:53.20 | Maldivia | Iriel: vdump screenshot... VERY nice! |
| 20:53.33 | wereHamster | it's an invalid lua string, but it shouldn't crash WoW |
| 20:54.22 | Iriel | wereHamster : Hm, is it an invalid lua string/ or just invalid unicode? |
| 20:54.24 | Maldivia | probably because \342 and \260 are invalid (since it's > 255) |
| 20:55.19 | wereHamster | invalus lua string, valid C octal escaped UTF-8 |
| 20:55.44 | Maldivia | wereHamster: lua strings are NOT octals |
| 20:55.46 | Iriel | Hm, actually, Maldivia is correct |
| 20:55.52 | Iriel | lua strings are 8 bit strings |
| 20:55.54 | Maldivia | they are escaped base-10 |
| 20:56.10 | Iriel | plain old lua doesn't like it either |
| 20:56.14 | Iriel | > str = "\342\200\260" |
| 20:56.15 | wereHamster | I know, that's why I said it's minor and not worth fixing |
| 20:56.18 | Iriel | stdin:1: escape sequence too large near `"' |
| 20:56.23 | Iriel | It's not a bug |
| 20:56.32 | Iriel | Well, the crash on startup is a bug |
| 20:56.35 | wereHamster | when it crashed WoW I consider it a bug |
| 20:56.35 | Iriel | but the error isn't 8-) |
| 20:56.57 | Iriel | You should post the crash on startup, it's worth fixing 8-) |
| 20:57.24 | wereHamster | where? EU doesn't have a 'bug-report forum' |
| 20:57.45 | Iriel | Oh, have one of us post it on the US UI forum, I'll do it unless someone else has already done it? |
| 20:58.07 | Maldivia | I'll add it to my crash bug list :) |
| 20:58.08 | wereHamster | and who'll believe in a crash dump that contains x11drv.drv :-/ |
| 20:58.16 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 20:58.24 | Iriel | I need to reproduce it first tho |
| 20:59.12 | Iriel | And that I can't do |
| 20:59.20 | Iriel | Where did you PUT this line? |
| 20:59.25 | Iriel | I get an error message on bootup |
| 20:59.31 | Iriel | but no crash |
| 20:59.51 | Maldivia | yeah, same - I just got an message box with "escape sequence too long near '" |
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| 21:04.21 | wereHamster | .. hm.. can't reproduce it when I run WoW under the wine debugger.. probably the same as the mouse problem.. |
| 21:06.32 | Maldivia | putting the line in an OnLoad fails to initialize the OnLoad, but the game still tries to call it, generating a lua error, with trying to call a nil value :) |
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| 21:48.12 | MentalPower | wohoo!! I have internet again! |
| 21:48.30 | AnduinLothar | yay, addiction feeding! |
| 21:58.49 | wereHamster | can lua code be pre-empted by WoW.exe? |
| 21:59.07 | wereHamster | .. and execution resumed at another place? |
| 21:59.45 | Iriel | No |
| 22:00.00 | Iriel | Though some API calls can result in immediate event dispatches and execution of other code |
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| 22:04.16 | wereHamster | http://wow.pastebin.com/663847 .. how can someone get "attempt to index field spellInfo" in the OnUpdate() function? |
| 22:07.16 | Miravlix | wereHamster, Hmm? |
| 22:07.58 | Miravlix | How can you not get it? |
| 22:08.37 | Iriel | You dont initialize the spellInfo table |
| 22:08.43 | Iriel | until you get an event, perhaps? |
| 22:08.45 | Miravlix | You set frame.spellInfo in OnEvent but never make sure it's called before you activate the onupdate that uses it |
| 22:09.02 | Iriel | You shouldn't :Show() that frame until it gets a spellInfo |
| 22:09.26 | wereHamster | do you think OnShow() could call the OnUpdate script? |
| 22:09.41 | Iriel | That depends on your code |
| 22:09.52 | Iriel | I'd say that your create should call :Hide() and that your OnEvent should call :Show(), perhaps??? |
| 22:10.02 | wereHamster | I have never had problem with this code.. until now someone reported this bug: Encountered leaving Hall of Honor after AB. |
| 22:10.05 | Iriel | Without knowing what your frame is supposed to do it's hard to know 8-) |
| 22:10.11 | Miravlix | Activating OnUpdate on OnShow is possible, but since Show already activate OnUpdate... |
| 22:10.48 | Iriel | I suspect the devil is in the details of your initialization |
| 22:11.02 | Iriel | Either you need to make sure that the table is ALWAYS set, or that you dont engage the onUpdate until it is |
| 22:11.41 | Wobin_ | Anyone able to recruit on Draka |
| 22:11.42 | Wobin_ | ? |
| 22:11.51 | Iriel | I can on alliance side |
| 22:11.59 | Wobin_ | Which side has a larger guild? |
| 22:12.24 | Iriel | No idea |
| 22:12.29 | Iriel | alliance has more than one page |
| 22:13.16 | Wobin_ | Horde has about 2 and a half... |
| 22:13.50 | wereHamster | I admit I do first :Show() and then I set spellInfo, but it all happens during the same lua execution phase, so as long as lua isn't pre-empted between the :Show() and the point where I set spellInfo I should be fine (I think) |
| 22:14.11 | Iriel | wereHamster: That'd be correct |
| 22:16.40 | Miravlix | frame:SetSecript might pre-empt |
| 22:17.20 | Elviso | Question: is there a maximum char count for chat in WoW? |
| 22:17.28 | Miravlix | Depend on what hearthbeat your code execute if it triggers an onupdate call perhaps. |
| 22:17.32 | Ktron|afk | Elviso, yes |
| 22:17.44 | Ktron|afk | Elviso, I hit it all the time |
| 22:18.07 | Elviso | I figured so, do you know what it is? |
| 22:18.18 | Ktron|afk | Elviso, easiest way to do it is try linking all of your equipment |
| 22:18.19 | Miravlix | Hard to tell with SetScript, it's easier when it's API calls that trigger events, those always force the event before returning from the API |
| 22:18.33 | wereHamster | Miravlix, are you sure or is it just a guess? |
| 22:18.37 | Ktron|afk | Elviso, no, I'm not sure, heh... count it? :) |
| 22:18.47 | Iriel | The game wont be calling your OnUpdate handler |
| 22:18.53 | Iriel | Not while your code is running |
| 22:19.11 | Miravlix | I have no way of knowning unless Slouken tells us thats how it is |
| 22:19.15 | Elviso | Ktron|afk: lol, I was looking for a quantifiable answer, but thx :P |
| 22:20.06 | Miravlix | Creating a heartbeat function to test when a SetScript call might trigger the Handler to be called is beyond me to code in lua |
| 22:20.10 | Iriel | Elviso : 255 characters |
| 22:20.17 | Iriel | Elviso ; If you mean via ChatFrameEditBox |
| 22:20.36 | Iriel | Elviso : That's 255 letters, sorry, it can be more 8 bit characters than that |
| 22:20.51 | Iriel | SetScript **NEVER** invokes the function for you |
| 22:21.03 | Elviso | Iriel: yes, thank you. I suppose the same limit applies if I send chat via script as well? |
| 22:21.07 | Iriel | It just sets up the handler so next time the action happens the function will get invoked |
| 22:21.16 | Iriel | Elviso : No idea whatsoever 8-) |
| 22:21.20 | Elviso | hehe |
| 22:21.49 | Miravlix | Iriel, Since events fireing triggers the event handlers to be called if registered |
| 22:21.49 | Iriel | wereHamster : My bet is that you're not setting the spellInfo value when you think you are, or you're accidenly clearing it. |
| 22:21.54 | wereHamster | is table.sort() guaranteed to call the sort-function at least once with each table entry? |
| 22:22.03 | Iriel | Miravlix : Yes, but the RegisterEvent call itself doesn't fire the handler |
| 22:22.28 | Iriel | wereHamster : yes, though it could be either argument |
| 22:23.07 | Miravlix | Hmm, dunno how to create on demand lagged UI to create queued events |
| 22:23.16 | Maldivia | is it guarenteed, if the table only contains one element ? |
| 22:23.35 | Iriel | Oh, that's a good point |
| 22:23.39 | Miravlix | But without queued events it's going to be hard to 'know' if RegisterEvent could trigger the event |
| 22:23.39 | krka | table sort with a sort function? |
| 22:23.42 | Iriel | It's not guaranteed for a 1 element table 8-) |
| 22:23.45 | krka | do you mean compare function? |
| 22:23.52 | Iriel | In fact, I'd think it was guaranteed to NOT be invoked in that case |
| 22:24.06 | krka | pretty sure that applies for 0 size tables too |
| 22:24.29 | Maldivia | krka: no, then it's called for each element :) |
| 22:24.35 | krka | doh |
| 22:24.37 | krka | correct |
| 22:24.42 | Iriel | Well, its undefined for 0 size tables |
| 22:24.48 | Iriel | it may, or may not, be called 8-) |
| 22:25.05 | krka | "for all" is always true if it's 0 elements |
| 22:25.17 | krka | atleast it was in my logics class |
| 22:25.36 | Iriel | Yes, but you're reading an implication in there that's not present |
| 22:26.12 | Iriel | so while it's true to say that it IS called for all elements |
| 22:26.19 | Iriel | There's no way to know it WILL BE called for all elements |
| 22:26.45 | Iriel | though I guess that's a silly distinction that has no value in anything 8-) |
| 22:26.55 | Iriel | Since there aren't any elements 8-) |
| 22:27.07 | krka | quite silly, indeed |
| 22:27.17 | wereHamster | Iriel, the one-element table might be the problem.. his UI showed only one spell on cooldown |
| 22:28.15 | krka | hmm... your addon somehow requires the compare function to be called once for each element? |
| 22:28.24 | Iriel | wereHamster : Did you give your comparison function a side-effect? |
| 22:28.26 | Wobin_ | Iriel: irt /dump currently, if there's a reference to a table that's already been printed, it'll just print the value[1][1].Frog to indicate it's a reference of a previously shown one, yeah? |
| 22:28.41 | Iriel | Wobin_ ; yes, that's what it's supposed to do |
| 22:28.46 | Wobin_ | Cool =) |
| 22:28.51 | krka | why does Iriel always have a better way of saying things |
| 22:28.55 | wereHamster | no, but it would show that spellInfo was valid at the point when I did frame.spellInfo = list[i] |
| 22:29.55 | Iriel | krka: You're not around when I produce entirely confusing descriptions, I guess 8-) |
| 22:30.12 | Iriel | krka: Which happens more often than i'll admit 8-) |
| 22:30.26 | krka | we may have different definitions of confusing descriptions |
| 22:30.38 | Maldivia | neither table.sort({}, sss) nor table.sort({1}, sss) called the sss function :) |
| 22:31.02 | krka | makes sense |
| 22:31.27 | Maldivia | {1,2} did |
| 22:31.29 | krka | probably a mergesort behind the scenes right? |
| 22:31.41 | Maldivia | I'd suspect a quicksort |
| 22:31.42 | krka | (stable, comparisonbased) |
| 22:31.50 | Maldivia | table.sort is unstable |
| 22:31.54 | krka | oh really |
| 22:31.56 | krka | interesting |
| 22:31.57 | Iriel | Quicksort |
| 22:32.02 | Iriel | ** Quicksort |
| 22:32.04 | Iriel | ** (based on `Algorithms in MODULA-3', Robert Sedgewick; |
| 22:32.10 | krka | unstable sorts FTL |
| 22:32.13 | Iriel | ** Addison-Wesley, 1993.) |
| 22:32.44 | Maldivia | hmm, is that the generic quicksort, or the improved quicksort ? |
| 22:33.05 | Iriel | I dont know, I dont have that book, though I do have another of his algorithms books |
| 22:33.07 | Iriel | let me see |
| 22:33.16 | krka | what is the difference between those? |
| 22:33.29 | wereHamster | this should pretty much describe what the addon does with the frames: http://wow.pastebin.com/663914 |
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| 22:36.17 | krka | that code is weird, can't follow it |
| 22:37.25 | Iriel | zenzio :You can just do setAllPoints="true" in your <Texture element, I think |
| 22:37.38 | Iriel | everyone else, ignore that, I just missed a /msg 8-) |
| 22:37.59 | Iriel | So far it looks like they use a hybrid recursive/non-recursive quicksort |
| 22:38.13 | zenzio | ah, cheers |
| 22:38.24 | Iriel | But it's hard to tell, the code is a bit dense |
| 22:38.47 | krka | either it's recursive or it's not :P |
| 22:39.09 | Iriel | Well, not really |
| 22:39.23 | krka | schrödinger recursion? |
| 22:39.27 | krka | if so, it's over my head... |
| 22:39.34 | Iriel | the 'standard' quicksort has each pass recursively invoke itself twice, once for each half of the subdivided remainder |
| 22:39.57 | Iriel | the lua one uses recursion for the 'smaller' half, and a loop for the 'larger' |
| 22:40.37 | krka | i'd call that recursion :) |
| 22:40.57 | Iriel | It's still recursive, and goes as 'deep', but only requires half as many function calls |
| 22:41.10 | Maldivia | krka: the code isn't weird, its just more or less standard factory design pattern :) |
| 22:41.24 | krka | constant factors are non-important to me :) |
| 22:41.52 | krka | weird that you create new frames all the time |
| 22:41.54 | krka | or so it seems |
| 22:42.13 | krka | and destroy barely even does anything |
| 22:42.38 | wereHamster | create reuses 'destroyd' frames if they are available |
| 22:42.39 | Cairenn | gotta love it when family members are hooked on the same games you are, makes gift giving very easy ... gave Mom & Dad both fully-prepaid preorders of the WoW expansion as their birthday presents *grin* |
| 22:42.52 | krka | ah never mind, cooldownfactory:create isn't called |
| 22:43.03 | krka | don't see why a dirty list is needed |
| 22:43.14 | Maldivia | krka: it is, from within the factory created, via Info.Interface:Create |
| 22:43.20 | wereHamster | to keep track of the unused frames |
| 22:44.08 | krka | no, clean is the unused frames? |
| 22:44.17 | krka | dirty are ones that are used |
| 22:44.48 | wereHamster | an right.. just in case someone would want to destroy a frame that doesn't belong to the factory ;) |
| 22:45.35 | id` | Anyoen ever have problems with the wow resolution? |
| 22:45.47 | id` | there is a 1px line at the top of my screen |
| 22:45.51 | id` | wow doesnt draw there |
| 22:45.58 | id` | if i alt tab that line will be white |
| 22:46.01 | id` | if i alt tab back to wow |
| 22:46.06 | id` | it f*cking flickers |
| 22:46.20 | id` | it is _so_ _damn_ ANOYING |
| 22:46.40 | id` | almost makes me wanna set my resolution from 1680x1050 back to whatever in windowed mode |
| 22:46.42 | krka | where is cooldownButton defined? |
| 22:46.55 | Maldivia | id: is your worldframe is anchored to the top, or 1 px off ? |
| 22:47.05 | Maldivia | id: for instance, if you use CT_ViewPort |
| 22:48.12 | id` | Maldivia: no |
| 22:48.24 | id` | Maldivia: i have it in the login screen too |
| 22:48.28 | id` | oh wait thats 3d too.. |
| 22:50.13 | id` | How do i resize the worldframe again? >_> |
| 22:50.30 | Maldivia | if you have it at login screen, don't know what the problem is |
| 22:54.14 | Maldivia | WorldFrame:ClearAllPoints(); WorldFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 0, 0); WorldFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", 0, 0) |
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| 23:00.58 | wereHamster | maybe spellInfoList[1] is nil, but I again don't see how that is possible :-( .. I'm lost |
| 23:02.33 | krka | is that all of the code? |
| 23:02.50 | wereHamster | of course not |
| 23:02.53 | krka | :P |
| 23:03.06 | krka | my way of saying: show more code! |
| 23:03.20 | krka | frameObject:SetScript("OnUpdate", function() coolDownButton:onUpdate() end) |
| 23:03.25 | krka | what is coolDownButton there? |
| 23:03.33 | wereHamster | the code that generates the 'sortedSpells' table is ugly |
| 23:04.19 | wereHamster | function coolDownButton:onUpdate() --[[ index this.spellInfo ]] end |
| 23:04.19 | krka | btw, bad to create a function closure that often, i think |
| 23:04.40 | wereHamster | it's only once for each frame.. and you'll have ~5 frames at most |
| 23:04.58 | krka | you do it OnEvent too |
| 23:05.08 | krka | true, not a very big deal though |
| 23:05.12 | krka | but easily avoidable |
| 23:05.26 | wereHamster | doesn't solve my problem though |
| 23:05.37 | krka | heh sorry |
| 23:05.59 | krka | exactly what error do you get? |
| 23:06.14 | Maldivia | hehe, posted an image in a thread on General forums... Gecko is leading over MSIE, 60% to 40% so far :) |
| 23:06.22 | wereHamster | http://thedoomguard.com/images/errors/WoWScrnShot_041606_172805.jpg |
| 23:06.50 | krka | and that line is? |
| 23:07.07 | wereHamster | local spellRemaining = this.spellInfo.spellDuration - ( GetTime() - this.spellInfo.spellStart) |
| 23:09.08 | krka | need more code |
| 23:10.41 | krka | hm... or i should sleep perhaps |
| 23:12.02 | id` | Miravlix: found out that opening the map makes the line black |
| 23:12.10 | id` | Maldivia* |
| 23:12.11 | id` | arg gone |
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| 23:17.20 | groll | grolls webradio is up and running 62.119.159.41:8000 in winamp to listen :) |
| 23:19.21 | Cide | hmm, anyone knows why this doesn't work? http://pastebin.com/663985 |
| 23:20.15 | Elviso | Question: say I have MyReallyLongNameAddon_SavedVariables, and for ease of use I do local MyVars = MyReallyLongNameAddon_SavedVariables |
| 23:20.21 | MentalPower | no clue, it looks ok to me Cide |
| 23:20.29 | Elviso | will any changes made to MyVars be reflected in MyReallyLongNameAddon_SavedVariables? |
| 23:20.32 | Cide | it doesn't error or anything, but it doesn't show |
| 23:20.34 | Cide | Elviso: yes |
| 23:20.40 | Elviso | kickass, thanks |
| 23:20.44 | MentalPower | Elviso: ye... what Cide said |
| 23:21.26 | wereHamster | texture:Show() ? |
| 23:21.36 | Cide | tried, doesn't help :) |
| 23:22.03 | Cafeine__ | hi guys... could you tell me what kind of mod to use for use automagically mount gears ? the most excellent mod "tweaks" is not supported anymore it seems :( |
| 23:22.06 | Cide | texture:IsVisible() returns 1 |
| 23:22.34 | Elviso | sorry Cide, I haven't messed w/any of the graphical aspects much or I'd throw my own silly suggestion out :) |
| 23:23.06 | Elviso | Cafeine__: Have you tried AutoMountEquip? |
| 23:23.07 | wereHamster | SetWidth(), SetHeight() ? |
| 23:23.57 | Cide | nope |
| 23:24.01 | Cide | doesn't help either |
| 23:24.33 | wereHamster | GetParent():IsVisible() ? |
| 23:24.44 | Cide | it's parented to WorldFrame? :) |
| 23:24.49 | wereHamster | -.- |
| 23:25.08 | Cide | texture:IsVisible() would only return 1 if its parent was visible too, though |
| 23:25.23 | Iriel | Cide: You have to give it contents dont you? |
| 23:25.26 | wereHamster | ay.. |
| 23:25.35 | Iriel | Cide: As it is you have an empty texture (no image, no color, it's just transparent) |
| 23:25.36 | Cide | as in, SetTexture("...")? |
| 23:25.45 | Iriel | Yes |
| 23:25.46 | wereHamster | SetVertexColor() or SetTexture() |
| 23:25.48 | Iriel | or SetTexture(r,g,b,a) |
| 23:26.04 | Iriel | SetVertexColor only works once your texture has something *IN* it |
| 23:26.06 | Cide | heh, yeah. that was it |
| 23:26.17 | Iriel | it's applied as a filter to the texture image |
| 23:26.27 | Cide | yeah, I just figured it was defaulted to 1, 1, 1 |
| 23:26.30 | Cide | but I guess not |
| 23:26.42 | Cide | thanks |
| 23:27.28 | Cide | hmm. |
| 23:27.47 | Cide | after using SetAllPoints(UIParent), there's still a one pixel border around the screen that is not covered |
| 23:28.12 | Cide | that's annoying |
| 23:28.43 | Cafeine__ | Elviso : nope I'll do that |
| 23:29.06 | Cafeine__ | I loved tweaks, so sad this one is not supported now :/ lot of fonctions in one |
| 23:29.22 | wereHamster | night |
| 23:31.36 | Cide | oh well, not hard to work around I guess |
| 23:55.01 | Elviso | question: how come in the wiki it has |
| 23:55.05 | Elviso | if (not id == 0 and name ~= nil) then |
| 23:55.13 | Elviso | could you not do |
| 23:55.20 | Elviso | if (id ~= 0 and name ~= nil) then |
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| 23:58.19 | _B | Needs more parenthesis |
